December 6, 2025 • 24 mins
We've got a bonus mini-episode for you this week! We're covering legendary New England Patriot, Vince Wilfork! Gronk and Julian Edelman discuss what made Vince so great and they spill some their favorite memories while playing with him in New England.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get on.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Vince will Fork, big dog, Vince wellfloor big v Oh
my god, I wonder.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Why something thanks something the block. Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I bet start the clock. What's hey? I gotta say,
Vince well Fork.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Sandy had six foot two and weighing around three hundred
and twenty five pounds, played as a dominant nose tackle
in the NFL three primarily I think he was like
three fifty at one point in sixty primarily played for
the New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans.
Growing up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so,
Boyton Boyton, boy Tom Beach, Florida, will Fork was a
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track and field standout before switching to football at the
University of Miami. Selected twenty first overall in the two
thousand and four draft, he was known for his strength, size,
and ability to stuff the run, often drawing double teams
and anchoring defenses with his power and scale. Over his career,
will Fork recorded five hundred and sixty tackle sixteen and
three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships, five Pro Bowl selections,
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and a reputation as one of the best defense tackles
of his era, known for his charisma and a love
for barbecue, he has remained a beloved figure off the field,
where his big personality and big hits made him a
fan favorite. That's a lot by Ai, the long synopsis.
That's the longest one we had so far. But Vince
deserves it. Yeah, one deserves it. He's the biggest guy
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so far we've been talking about. He's about three hundred
and sixty five pounds. I think they got it got
it wrong there. This guy can eat you up.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has.
He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks
good on him. It's just sad that you know he's
not coming back though, you know, because every good player
you always have that imagination that they're gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He never he always thought Vin, I think VI can
still play. You just have that thought about him. What's
the first thing that comes to your mind when you
think about Big v The barbecues.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know, he came out with his own barbecue. Saw
some pretty sure. Mister Kraft used to have that team
get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape.
After you made the team. It was right at the
end of August. What howday's at right? The nd of August?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Labor Day?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, Labor Day, yep.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And it was Labor Day week and we would all
go up there and it'd be ribs or be you know, steaks,
and then here comes Big V coming through and he
brings his own barbecue sauce every single year. And I
wouldn't eat those ribs or the soar line or you know,
the burger meet until that barbecue sauce got there. And
once Big V showed up, Hey, Big V passed that
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sauce over, buddy. Yeah, he loved it too, man. He
loved being known about that sauce. And he just loved
just the atmosphere around a cookout.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one
of his cookouts. He smoked some ribs. He was in
in some big ass overalls with those shirt smoking ribs.
He just looks at home when he's on the barbecue.
He looks like that's he's at home. The first I
remember when I was a rookie comfortable, that's just comfort
zone for him. It is I arb my rookie year.
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My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was
rolling in like my my Toyota rental and I park
it in the way back of the players a lot,
and all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi
a fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right
in the front and takes like two damn spots backs
in backs in this big ass orange semi truck. It's
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fucking Vince's daily driver. Vince had like a huge semi
truck daily driver. He gets out of thinking and it
looked just like him in front of the barbecue, just
a comfort zone for him. Just a big ass dude
getting out of a big ass truck. Big v was
just fucking so cool. That was like my first welcome
d I was like, holy shit, I don't even know
you could buy semi trucks.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me
my Welcome to the NFL dosage of a hit Wooden
training camp rookie year. You know the wham block, what's
the way explain where they let go the guy let go,
let's the just defensive tackle free. So then he thinks
he's gonna go get a sack and then a wam
black is when I come across the line of scrimmage
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at the tight end position when I'm off the ball
and I'm the one that goes and I wham the
defensive tackle and try to block on this tight end.
There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle,
so he knows it's coming. I mean, this is a
specialty play that the New England Patriots been running.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
They know the script well before me. Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It was it was at nine nine seven, so yeah,
the defense does know the script so they can look
really good in the run game throughout that whole period.
And I think they also told them this play was coming,
uh being specifically knowing I'm on the black, Vince, and
they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So
the players called, I'm in full pass. You know, I'm
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a wam block. I gotta show my toughness. I got
to show my keeps. I got to get the respect
of my fellow teammates, especially the veterans pitcher.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Also, Rob's a rookie here. Vive was like the big
dog on campus. In practice. No one really gets close
to him because you don't want to piss him off
when you're new, you know, It's like, holy shit, is
that a that is a large human being. He's like
so big. I think there's like something that orbits him,
like on how round he is like that's you didn't
want to get in his way. He didn't want to
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piss him off because he was very intimidating. Get back
to your story.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So the play, you know, gets on its way. I
do my little you know, two side steps, you know,
on the motion. I'm running full speed right at Vince Wellford.
This guy peeks over to his left. He sees me coming.
He has this grin on his face. Knowing I was coming.
He put his shoulder down. I'm going full speed at him,
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and he gets that leverage and just tease off on me.
I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't
even land on my back. He sent me flying in
the air where I landed on my feet still, Oh
my god. Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort.
But what's cool is I gained the respect to my
teammates and my coach at that time, tight end coach,
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in that meeting that day when we went and reviewed
the players. Brian Farrens, love you, Brian farrenc. He's now
at Iowa with his dad doing, you know, doing his thing,
doing a good job. He goes, Yo, what were you
thinking trying to block Vince wolffor He goes, You're never
gonna do that again.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I go, thank you, thank you. I go, I'll never
do it again.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And ever since that day, you know, we had about
five more of those calls, and I just go up
to him, I hug him. I didn't need to try
to block him. It was just only gonna get me
hurt from there on out. Yeah, I just give him
a hug like Vince. No, No, it's the way I'm block.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I know you're gonna beat me, like, there's there's no
reason to go through this motion of me getting thrown
backwards again.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Oh my god, I'm gonna break a rib.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's so he's so sure you love your ribs, and
you're gonna you know, you'll probably eat him and enjoin
him after with your barbecue sauce body. Oh my, that
had to be so terrifying.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It was, well at that time, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
He's an intimidating guy. Was when you joined the team too.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know,
Gainer my keeps man like. I was trying to prove myself,
so I didn't care who was in my way. And
then I learned, I do care who's in my way. Yeah,
And when when it comes down to the NFL, you
gotta that's when you learned on when to, you know,
take your shots to someone and when not to, when
to block someone hard, when to kind of like just
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box someone out as well, instead of trying to hit
him full speak and you hit him full speed, heads up.
They you know they're way bigger than you. This is
when you start learning the ins and outs. And that's
one ins and out. I learned big time.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's
what people don't realize, like they just.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Surprisingly quick because of how big he was and his feet.
You had fast feet, man. He was kind of like
a running back that pitter patters, Like whoa big burp
right there, Jules. Wow, was the barbecue I ate from
five years ago with big Vans and still we ate
that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right was good.
His feet were surprisingly click. He was like boom, he
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was a rabbit out there.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I remember always going in the weight room and you
go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm
bars and stuff, and there'd always be a shock put there.
Remember him, You ever see him shotput?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And I never have.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh my god, he can fucking shock. He was a
fucking track star. I think he had like the state record.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
He had insane strength too.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I remember like he wouldn't go in the weight room
to just like warm up, you know, do three fifteen
like five. He would just go in the weight room
just to you know, maintain his strength. And he would
just walk in and I remember him just throwing up
like four hundred and twenty five pounds in the bench
and just tossing it up then racking it and be
like I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Done for to day.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, Like he didn't even need to work on his
strength that much because he was just that strong naturally,
and like it was to a whole nother level.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I remember seeing him in the weight room toom he
like Marcus Cannon. When he would work out, the weights
would bend. He was just so strong and he had
always great movement, like he was very he was very skillful,
like fluid fluid, like when you watch big v throw football.
He looks like like he spins the ball really well.
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You see him hit a golf ball. He fucking has
an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the guy is so athletic.
He used to return punch in high school. Like I remember,
you know, Bill, always every training camp when it's getting
to like day nine ten, guys are worn down, beat
up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted. He'd always have a big
lineman come in and try to catch a punt, and
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if you caught punch, you'd have the night off. He
threw v up there and it looked too fucking easy.
I think he went in snaged that thing was.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
He was so athletic. He could have played full back.
I swear he could play running back and it gets
gained some yards before going down tight end. He could
definitely play I heard him talking about this too as well.
He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere on the defensive line.
And he, like you said, quarterback as well. He had
an arm. He loved being you know before practice was
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going on, you know, before we get really got into
a chucking the ball, you know, to to his fellow
defensive players having a good old time. He was just
so disruptive as well. And he was kind of like
the two gap god when he was, you know, on
that defensive line and that being able to take two gaps.
You know how much Steff Freese, that linebacker, that's a
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linebacker's best friend right there, Vince Walford, I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Dard Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Caul, they all love them.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
They all do it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And guys like they love guys that take double teams.
Lets you get to that fucking kind of Big V
just said. Big V has so many stats. He had
so much production for the amount of stats he had
because he had such hidden things that made plays go.
It was unblockable, and you take two double teams, they
can never get the guy to the second level. Like
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he just was fucking a monster. And we wanted to
talk about him on this show specifically because because.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What is he known for on Thanksgiving Jules.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He's the one that created the butt.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But the forer, the generator of the butt fumball versus
the New York Jets Sanchez, Oh my god, he did
that before.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Like he it's where he gets so much penetration. He
drives his guy back so far that it hit the
quarterback with the guy that he was driving backs, but
that made him fumble the football and Steve Gregory scoop
score in his home area of New Jersey, which was
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just a fucking crazy game. That comes to my mind
when I think evins of some of his crazy stories.
But also remember when we were in Buffalo and he
read out the receivers.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Sun what was he rewarded with though? After that we
had the turkey on the post game.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
He had the turkey leg.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
He had the turkey leg. He's rewarded with a turkey
leg during the post game for his contribution to the
butt fumble.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And he ate that thing. He ate it all. Not surprised, But.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
What was it that you were talking about in Buffalo?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Remember in Buffalo where they had that receiver screen and
V read it and he was full full speed and
a receiver was full speed not seeing him, and it
looked like it looked like if a semi hit like
one of those little smart cars.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Oh my gosh, this this is the receiver.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Like he was up, he was up, and the like
your finger just got bent backwards in matter of a
split second, boom, that looked like the receiver right there.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Boom, it's not even that. It's not even the mass.
Imagine if he like fell on you going that fast
like a bug, like a fucking bug, I bet you
got his fight out.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Of the air and it just explodes everywhere. That's kind
of what happened to the Bills wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And you always they flattened him. No, it was, it
was that's a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was
a terrifying hit. There's a lot of big hits that
you see. You're like, all right, you can you can
winstand that. But when it's it's straight physics. When you
got Massa's velocity, you get force, you get fucking force.
And that's what big V was. I don't know if
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that's right for you physics people, get us in there.
But then also what about what about his interceptions? We're
talking big plays here.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I mean he had that that pick versus Philip Rivers
at home in Gillette Stadium when he was at another
screen or he was just I think he was he
got tipped or somebody, Yeah, did he tip it?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Did he tip it?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He showed great ball
skills right there.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And then then you saw your fast feet, yes.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And then he started just you know, trucking down the
field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He looked nimble,
and he looked agile and just rumbling down the field.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play,
anyone in the world didn't want that big man to
score when a big man has because the ball looked
like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in
his armpit, a loaf of bread, I pumper nickel, pumper nickel.
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It looks so small and he's like running it and
like everyone is just sitting there, like, look at.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
The big big gods.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Remember Comley also did that and they kick offf return packers.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I love big man get or score a touchdown a soldier,
everyone loves it. Man the soldier had that one. The
Lions are doing it a lot. Lions are doing it.
We're speaking of Thanksgiving, you know, teams Lions in there,
you know, don't don't not expect a trick play to
alignment this Thanksgiving from the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I mean a fake punt. You're gonna You're gonna there's
gonna be something like that. We we talked about on
this show a few weeks back, tight End University Day
or Happy tight End Day, what's called National tight End Day,
National tight End. There's gotta be a national Big Guy
touchdown Day or a big Guy catch Day. It just
needs to be national.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Bing Like it's a rule in the NFL book that
you have to at least run one tackle eligible, play.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two
hundred and seventy five two hundred and eighty five pounds,
has to touch a football on one specific day, National.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Big Fat Guy Day. I like that.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
We like that. Who's gonna start it?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think we need Big V.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, Big V, come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You remember in the butt football game. I remember watching
it the next day in meetings, Bill rewinded it like
four or five times, barely said anything, and then like
got up and talked and he said, the Jets got
exactly what they deserve, Like did something like one of
those you know what, do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I actually was hurt that year, a duel.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So I was at home just watching it from my couch,
just enjoying my Thanksgiving, and I just remember that play happening.
I was shocked because we were already dominating, that dominating,
dominating that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
It wasn't even a close game at all.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And just when that happened, I was giggling to myself,
like what a play.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I never seen anything like that.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And I was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it
like it just didn't happen to butt fumble and directly
in his hands. No, directly on the ground and directly
in the Gregory's hand. But it went to the end
zone of the Patriots as well. We got six points
out of it. It's like it doesn't happen usually. Usually
like a play like that, you know, usually someone just
gets on it and it's a fumble recovery.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
It went to the house. We scored on it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
How do you think Sanchez or san Chito feels about that?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, Sanchez is a good dude, is a goofy dude,
so I think he kind of likes it.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I think he does owns it. Yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Does own it for sure. He'll giggle about it for sure.
It's kind of like the Miami miracle. I own that play. Yeah,
He's kind of like the butt fumble with Sanchez. I mean,
it's okay. I mean it happens.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It's kind of like the two thousand and four or
two thousand and two frosh Off Championship between the Bee
Division Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception away
and they won it on it. It's kind of like,
you own it now, fucking I'll never own it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It's bullshit. It's okay, Jules. One day you'll own it.
You'll get over it. It's okay, man, we're here for it.
Just be thankful for other things and then you'll get
over that. You know what, I'm also thankful for.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
What are you thankful for? That?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
We were a part of probably two of the craziest
play calls in the history of football. Won the butt fumble? Yes,
what's more embarrassing the butt fumble? Or do you remember
when the Colts had that stupid punt formation that they
tried it sad It was.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Fourth and two and they were trying to get us
on a trick more than four. It was a weird formation.
They had like everyone spread out wide and then the
center was down in distance, and then there was a
running back behind the center or something, and then they
hiked it and everyone was in like in shock, Like
what that possibly going on.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And that's the only reason I bring this up is
because the same shock factor that we had that like,
did that but just make that fumble and then we
scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same
shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Did he really hike the ball?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm
looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play.
Are you fucking serious?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Like? This is National Football.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
League and they're only down by six in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
That's the Cults for you. That was that was worse
than the buff fumble.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, because that's made through force in gravity exactly. The
butt fumble was made by Vince in that fucking three
hundred and twenty five pound frame, twenty five pound frame,
taking his matchup and driving him into the fucking I'm
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flabberg acid. I didn't realize we were going to get
into that play. I think they rose the Banner year.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That's why I never lost.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Was that the Banner year they rose. They never lost
to thel Did we ever lose to the Cults? I
did in two thousand and nine, so it doesn't count.
How about the big boy on body Issues? I mean
he's he's not like it looks like muscle.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
It is muscle.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's why I love the ESPN the Body Issue because
they they featured everyone.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah it's and they're just showing how were you on it?
The statue?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yes, how the statue of the body represented all different
types of athletes, from a guy that played tackle to
a wide receiver to myself right there, young, you want
to know the running joke was about me, I'm being
on the Body issue cover?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What was that? The circle? It was really small that
they needed to use.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What circle?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
The cover? Me out? Yeah? You know what?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I didn't they tell you it was going to be
a small set, Like there's not gonna be a lot
of people there.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
There really wasn't. There's probably like five, five or six.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
How many were on your I feel like there's thirty
in mine?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Really thirty.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I wanted to see you, Jueles. You're a good looking guy.
I had a wonderful body.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now, how did the how did the football stay on?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's a good question.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I was kind of adjusting it before every shot, and
then I kind of adjusted it so I kind of
found that niche.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Did you take a to keep that thing staked up
so you could just post it on there.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No. No, it was actually one of the worst performance
looking days of my life. It was kind of chilly
in there. I felt like I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah,
and I was just giggling at myself every time I
look back at the pictures.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It was.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. I was embarrassed
just looking at it myself.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It was crazy because like you would see like a
picture after you know, you'd go with the photographer and
your your wiener would be out and you'd see the
picture and then all of a sudden they'd be like, oh,
don't worry, we could just cut that.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like, you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Go tell everyone, you know, and then that person that's reviewing.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
My request degree in the shoot set it was sixty
ten minutes. What kind of dude is Vince will Fork
stud A freak, a dog, a dude's dude, or a whiz.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I mean he's a waste.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He has a lot of intellectual and knowledge of the
game of football.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I mean he was a smart player.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's why he knew that big play that he made
when we were talking about it versus the Buffalo Bills,
and he absolutely dominated the receiver on that screen across
the middle because he saw that play coming. He sniffed
it out like he was a wizard out there. That's
how he made majority of his play. Same with his interceptions.
He knew the screen was coming. He backed off. He
knew that when he got dropped, he wasn't going to
just go to the quarterback and get a free sack.
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He knew there must be a different type of play coming.
Oh it's going to be a screen or it's a
gimmick or something. I mean, he was smart, bro, He
was very smart.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
On that football field.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean yeah, he was a freak for his size,
I mean three sixty, just the way that he could move,
his athletic ability. Kind of a dude's dude as well,
with his barbecues, man inviting the guys over, having that
barbecue sauce for everyone.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
He's also a fucking dog.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, he was a dog.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
He was grimy in there. Oh yeah, when you're the
guy taking the double team the whole time, and you
know you have to go getting six hundred pounds every
fucking play because he's taking double teams every play six
hundred pounds, and he would.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Take those double teams and kind of just eat those
double teams up, he really would, and just let that
linebacker just free to go in and make the place.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And he's a fucking stud is atltus Susan he is, man.
I mean he could shoot a basketball. I mean he's
insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing,
You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched golf.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
This is a true tough one. Man.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince
Wolfork to just one category.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you
expect one?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Oh man, hold on, let me keep thinking thinking about
this man. Oh all right, all right.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
One, two, three, fuiz ah man, oh man, I know, man,
he is a freak though, but he's he's so smart.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Man, I'm telling you he's a smart football player.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, but that goes into his freakiness where you think
a guy that looks like him isn't smart. He's great freak.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
He's great in commercials too, like you see him in
that stove commercials now like grilling and all that he's
on TV. But you also just sitting there like smart
large gotta be smart large guy right now that, like
we said, we're categorizing freaks. As you're just looking at someone,
You're like, how can they possibly do that?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Size?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Also also like feet, can we say, yeah, he's he's
a wizard though, Can you.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Agree with that?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I mean, I always mean Bill talking about how smart
he is a football player instinctive.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So I do agree he is a freak of nature.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know,
to move that while on the football field, take on
double teams and just squash him. Just the way he
tackled guys too. They would go right down. There was
no mistackles by Vince Wallfork. When he got your hands
on you.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No, so he drape you down and he swallow you.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
All right, we'll try again. Let's do it again.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
One, two three, freak Stamp it.
Let's get on.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Vince will Fork, big dog, Vince wellfloor big v Oh
my god, I wonder.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Why something thanks something the block. Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I bet start the clock. What's hey? I gotta say,
Vince well Fork.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Sandy had six foot two and weighing around three hundred
and twenty five pounds, played as a dominant nose tackle
in the NFL three primarily I think he was like
three fifty at one point in sixty primarily played for
the New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans.
Growing up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so,
Boyton Boyton, boy Tom Beach, Florida, will Fork was a
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track and field standout before switching to football at the
University of Miami. Selected twenty first overall in the two
thousand and four draft, he was known for his strength, size,
and ability to stuff the run, often drawing double teams
and anchoring defenses with his power and scale. Over his career,
will Fork recorded five hundred and sixty tackle sixteen and
three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships, five Pro Bowl selections,
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and a reputation as one of the best defense tackles
of his era, known for his charisma and a love
for barbecue, he has remained a beloved figure off the field,
where his big personality and big hits made him a
fan favorite. That's a lot by Ai, the long synopsis.
That's the longest one we had so far. But Vince
deserves it. Yeah, one deserves it. He's the biggest guy
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so far we've been talking about. He's about three hundred
and sixty five pounds. I think they got it got
it wrong there. This guy can eat you up.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has.
He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks
good on him. It's just sad that you know he's
not coming back though, you know, because every good player
you always have that imagination that they're gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He never he always thought Vin, I think VI can
still play. You just have that thought about him. What's
the first thing that comes to your mind when you
think about Big v The barbecues.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know, he came out with his own barbecue. Saw
some pretty sure. Mister Kraft used to have that team
get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape.
After you made the team. It was right at the
end of August. What howday's at right? The nd of August?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Labor Day?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, Labor Day, yep.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And it was Labor Day week and we would all
go up there and it'd be ribs or be you know, steaks,
and then here comes Big V coming through and he
brings his own barbecue sauce every single year. And I
wouldn't eat those ribs or the soar line or you know,
the burger meet until that barbecue sauce got there. And
once Big V showed up, Hey, Big V passed that
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sauce over, buddy. Yeah, he loved it too, man. He
loved being known about that sauce. And he just loved
just the atmosphere around a cookout.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one
of his cookouts. He smoked some ribs. He was in
in some big ass overalls with those shirt smoking ribs.
He just looks at home when he's on the barbecue.
He looks like that's he's at home. The first I
remember when I was a rookie comfortable, that's just comfort
zone for him. It is I arb my rookie year.
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My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was
rolling in like my my Toyota rental and I park
it in the way back of the players a lot,
and all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi
a fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right
in the front and takes like two damn spots backs
in backs in this big ass orange semi truck. It's
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fucking Vince's daily driver. Vince had like a huge semi
truck daily driver. He gets out of thinking and it
looked just like him in front of the barbecue, just
a comfort zone for him. Just a big ass dude
getting out of a big ass truck. Big v was
just fucking so cool. That was like my first welcome
d I was like, holy shit, I don't even know
you could buy semi trucks.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me
my Welcome to the NFL dosage of a hit Wooden
training camp rookie year. You know the wham block, what's
the way explain where they let go the guy let go,
let's the just defensive tackle free. So then he thinks
he's gonna go get a sack and then a wam
black is when I come across the line of scrimmage
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at the tight end position when I'm off the ball
and I'm the one that goes and I wham the
defensive tackle and try to block on this tight end.
There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle,
so he knows it's coming. I mean, this is a
specialty play that the New England Patriots been running.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
They know the script well before me. Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It was it was at nine nine seven, so yeah,
the defense does know the script so they can look
really good in the run game throughout that whole period.
And I think they also told them this play was coming,
uh being specifically knowing I'm on the black, Vince, and
they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So
the players called, I'm in full pass. You know, I'm
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a wam block. I gotta show my toughness. I got
to show my keeps. I got to get the respect
of my fellow teammates, especially the veterans pitcher.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Also, Rob's a rookie here. Vive was like the big
dog on campus. In practice. No one really gets close
to him because you don't want to piss him off
when you're new, you know, It's like, holy shit, is
that a that is a large human being. He's like
so big. I think there's like something that orbits him,
like on how round he is like that's you didn't
want to get in his way. He didn't want to
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piss him off because he was very intimidating. Get back
to your story.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So the play, you know, gets on its way. I
do my little you know, two side steps, you know,
on the motion. I'm running full speed right at Vince Wellford.
This guy peeks over to his left. He sees me coming.
He has this grin on his face. Knowing I was coming.
He put his shoulder down. I'm going full speed at him,
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and he gets that leverage and just tease off on me.
I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't
even land on my back. He sent me flying in
the air where I landed on my feet still, Oh
my god. Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort.
But what's cool is I gained the respect to my
teammates and my coach at that time, tight end coach,
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in that meeting that day when we went and reviewed
the players. Brian Farrens, love you, Brian farrenc. He's now
at Iowa with his dad doing, you know, doing his thing,
doing a good job. He goes, Yo, what were you
thinking trying to block Vince wolffor He goes, You're never
gonna do that again.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I go, thank you, thank you. I go, I'll never
do it again.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And ever since that day, you know, we had about
five more of those calls, and I just go up
to him, I hug him. I didn't need to try
to block him. It was just only gonna get me
hurt from there on out. Yeah, I just give him
a hug like Vince. No, No, it's the way I'm block.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I know you're gonna beat me, like, there's there's no
reason to go through this motion of me getting thrown
backwards again.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Oh my god, I'm gonna break a rib.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's so he's so sure you love your ribs, and
you're gonna you know, you'll probably eat him and enjoin
him after with your barbecue sauce body. Oh my, that
had to be so terrifying.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It was, well at that time, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
He's an intimidating guy. Was when you joined the team too.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know,
Gainer my keeps man like. I was trying to prove myself,
so I didn't care who was in my way. And
then I learned, I do care who's in my way. Yeah,
And when when it comes down to the NFL, you
gotta that's when you learned on when to, you know,
take your shots to someone and when not to, when
to block someone hard, when to kind of like just
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box someone out as well, instead of trying to hit
him full speak and you hit him full speed, heads up.
They you know they're way bigger than you. This is
when you start learning the ins and outs. And that's
one ins and out. I learned big time.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's
what people don't realize, like they just.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Surprisingly quick because of how big he was and his feet.
You had fast feet, man. He was kind of like
a running back that pitter patters, Like whoa big burp
right there, Jules. Wow, was the barbecue I ate from
five years ago with big Vans and still we ate
that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right was good.
His feet were surprisingly click. He was like boom, he
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was a rabbit out there.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I remember always going in the weight room and you
go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm
bars and stuff, and there'd always be a shock put there.
Remember him, You ever see him shotput?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And I never have.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh my god, he can fucking shock. He was a
fucking track star. I think he had like the state record.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
He had insane strength too.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I remember like he wouldn't go in the weight room
to just like warm up, you know, do three fifteen
like five. He would just go in the weight room
just to you know, maintain his strength. And he would
just walk in and I remember him just throwing up
like four hundred and twenty five pounds in the bench
and just tossing it up then racking it and be
like I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Done for to day.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, Like he didn't even need to work on his
strength that much because he was just that strong naturally,
and like it was to a whole nother level.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I remember seeing him in the weight room toom he
like Marcus Cannon. When he would work out, the weights
would bend. He was just so strong and he had
always great movement, like he was very he was very skillful,
like fluid fluid, like when you watch big v throw football.
He looks like like he spins the ball really well.
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You see him hit a golf ball. He fucking has
an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the guy is so athletic.
He used to return punch in high school. Like I remember,
you know, Bill, always every training camp when it's getting
to like day nine ten, guys are worn down, beat
up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted. He'd always have a big
lineman come in and try to catch a punt, and
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if you caught punch, you'd have the night off. He
threw v up there and it looked too fucking easy.
I think he went in snaged that thing was.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
He was so athletic. He could have played full back.
I swear he could play running back and it gets
gained some yards before going down tight end. He could
definitely play I heard him talking about this too as well.
He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere on the defensive line.
And he, like you said, quarterback as well. He had
an arm. He loved being you know before practice was
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going on, you know, before we get really got into
a chucking the ball, you know, to to his fellow
defensive players having a good old time. He was just
so disruptive as well. And he was kind of like
the two gap god when he was, you know, on
that defensive line and that being able to take two gaps.
You know how much Steff Freese, that linebacker, that's a
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linebacker's best friend right there, Vince Walford, I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Dard Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Caul, they all love them.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
They all do it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And guys like they love guys that take double teams.
Lets you get to that fucking kind of Big V
just said. Big V has so many stats. He had
so much production for the amount of stats he had
because he had such hidden things that made plays go.
It was unblockable, and you take two double teams, they
can never get the guy to the second level. Like
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he just was fucking a monster. And we wanted to
talk about him on this show specifically because because.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What is he known for on Thanksgiving Jules.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He's the one that created the butt.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But the forer, the generator of the butt fumball versus
the New York Jets Sanchez, Oh my god, he did
that before.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Like he it's where he gets so much penetration. He
drives his guy back so far that it hit the
quarterback with the guy that he was driving backs, but
that made him fumble the football and Steve Gregory scoop
score in his home area of New Jersey, which was
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just a fucking crazy game. That comes to my mind
when I think evins of some of his crazy stories.
But also remember when we were in Buffalo and he
read out the receivers.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Sun what was he rewarded with though? After that we
had the turkey on the post game.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
He had the turkey leg.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
He had the turkey leg. He's rewarded with a turkey
leg during the post game for his contribution to the
butt fumble.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And he ate that thing. He ate it all. Not surprised, But.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
What was it that you were talking about in Buffalo?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Remember in Buffalo where they had that receiver screen and
V read it and he was full full speed and
a receiver was full speed not seeing him, and it
looked like it looked like if a semi hit like
one of those little smart cars.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Oh my gosh, this this is the receiver.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Like he was up, he was up, and the like
your finger just got bent backwards in matter of a
split second, boom, that looked like the receiver right there.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Boom, it's not even that. It's not even the mass.
Imagine if he like fell on you going that fast
like a bug, like a fucking bug, I bet you
got his fight out.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Of the air and it just explodes everywhere. That's kind
of what happened to the Bills wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And you always they flattened him. No, it was, it
was that's a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was
a terrifying hit. There's a lot of big hits that
you see. You're like, all right, you can you can
winstand that. But when it's it's straight physics. When you
got Massa's velocity, you get force, you get fucking force.
And that's what big V was. I don't know if
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that's right for you physics people, get us in there.
But then also what about what about his interceptions? We're
talking big plays here.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I mean he had that that pick versus Philip Rivers
at home in Gillette Stadium when he was at another
screen or he was just I think he was he
got tipped or somebody, Yeah, did he tip it?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Did he tip it?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He showed great ball
skills right there.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And then then you saw your fast feet, yes.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And then he started just you know, trucking down the
field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He looked nimble,
and he looked agile and just rumbling down the field.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play,
anyone in the world didn't want that big man to
score when a big man has because the ball looked
like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in
his armpit, a loaf of bread, I pumper nickel, pumper nickel.
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It looks so small and he's like running it and
like everyone is just sitting there, like, look at.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
The big big gods.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Remember Comley also did that and they kick offf return packers.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I love big man get or score a touchdown a soldier,
everyone loves it. Man the soldier had that one. The
Lions are doing it a lot. Lions are doing it.
We're speaking of Thanksgiving, you know, teams Lions in there,
you know, don't don't not expect a trick play to
alignment this Thanksgiving from the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I mean a fake punt. You're gonna You're gonna there's
gonna be something like that. We we talked about on
this show a few weeks back, tight End University Day
or Happy tight End Day, what's called National tight End Day,
National tight End. There's gotta be a national Big Guy
touchdown Day or a big Guy catch Day. It just
needs to be national.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Bing Like it's a rule in the NFL book that
you have to at least run one tackle eligible, play.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two
hundred and seventy five two hundred and eighty five pounds,
has to touch a football on one specific day, National.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Big Fat Guy Day. I like that.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
We like that. Who's gonna start it?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think we need Big V.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, Big V, come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You remember in the butt football game. I remember watching
it the next day in meetings, Bill rewinded it like
four or five times, barely said anything, and then like
got up and talked and he said, the Jets got
exactly what they deserve, Like did something like one of
those you know what, do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I actually was hurt that year, a duel.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So I was at home just watching it from my couch,
just enjoying my Thanksgiving, and I just remember that play happening.
I was shocked because we were already dominating, that dominating,
dominating that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
It wasn't even a close game at all.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And just when that happened, I was giggling to myself,
like what a play.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I never seen anything like that.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And I was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it
like it just didn't happen to butt fumble and directly
in his hands. No, directly on the ground and directly
in the Gregory's hand. But it went to the end
zone of the Patriots as well. We got six points
out of it. It's like it doesn't happen usually. Usually
like a play like that, you know, usually someone just
gets on it and it's a fumble recovery.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
It went to the house. We scored on it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
How do you think Sanchez or san Chito feels about that?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, Sanchez is a good dude, is a goofy dude,
so I think he kind of likes it.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I think he does owns it. Yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Does own it for sure. He'll giggle about it for sure.
It's kind of like the Miami miracle. I own that play. Yeah,
He's kind of like the butt fumble with Sanchez. I mean,
it's okay. I mean it happens.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It's kind of like the two thousand and four or
two thousand and two frosh Off Championship between the Bee
Division Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception away
and they won it on it. It's kind of like,
you own it now, fucking I'll never own it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It's bullshit. It's okay, Jules. One day you'll own it.
You'll get over it. It's okay, man, we're here for it.
Just be thankful for other things and then you'll get
over that. You know what, I'm also thankful for.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
What are you thankful for? That?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
We were a part of probably two of the craziest
play calls in the history of football. Won the butt fumble? Yes,
what's more embarrassing the butt fumble? Or do you remember
when the Colts had that stupid punt formation that they
tried it sad It was.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Fourth and two and they were trying to get us
on a trick more than four. It was a weird formation.
They had like everyone spread out wide and then the
center was down in distance, and then there was a
running back behind the center or something, and then they
hiked it and everyone was in like in shock, Like
what that possibly going on.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And that's the only reason I bring this up is
because the same shock factor that we had that like,
did that but just make that fumble and then we
scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same
shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Did he really hike the ball?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm
looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play.
Are you fucking serious?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Like? This is National Football.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
League and they're only down by six in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
That's the Cults for you. That was that was worse
than the buff fumble.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, because that's made through force in gravity exactly. The
butt fumble was made by Vince in that fucking three
hundred and twenty five pound frame, twenty five pound frame,
taking his matchup and driving him into the fucking I'm
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flabberg acid. I didn't realize we were going to get
into that play. I think they rose the Banner year.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That's why I never lost.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Was that the Banner year they rose. They never lost
to thel Did we ever lose to the Cults? I
did in two thousand and nine, so it doesn't count.
How about the big boy on body Issues? I mean
he's he's not like it looks like muscle.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
It is muscle.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's why I love the ESPN the Body Issue because
they they featured everyone.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah it's and they're just showing how were you on it?
The statue?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yes, how the statue of the body represented all different
types of athletes, from a guy that played tackle to
a wide receiver to myself right there, young, you want
to know the running joke was about me, I'm being
on the Body issue cover?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What was that? The circle? It was really small that
they needed to use.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What circle?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
The cover? Me out? Yeah? You know what?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I didn't they tell you it was going to be
a small set, Like there's not gonna be a lot
of people there.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
There really wasn't. There's probably like five, five or six.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
How many were on your I feel like there's thirty
in mine?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Really thirty.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I wanted to see you, Jueles. You're a good looking guy.
I had a wonderful body.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now, how did the how did the football stay on?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's a good question.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I was kind of adjusting it before every shot, and
then I kind of adjusted it so I kind of
found that niche.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Did you take a to keep that thing staked up
so you could just post it on there.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No. No, it was actually one of the worst performance
looking days of my life. It was kind of chilly
in there. I felt like I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah,
and I was just giggling at myself every time I
look back at the pictures.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It was.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. I was embarrassed
just looking at it myself.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It was crazy because like you would see like a
picture after you know, you'd go with the photographer and
your your wiener would be out and you'd see the
picture and then all of a sudden they'd be like, oh,
don't worry, we could just cut that.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like, you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Go tell everyone, you know, and then that person that's reviewing.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
My request degree in the shoot set it was sixty
ten minutes. What kind of dude is Vince will Fork
stud A freak, a dog, a dude's dude, or a whiz.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I mean he's a waste.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He has a lot of intellectual and knowledge of the
game of football.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I mean he was a smart player.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's why he knew that big play that he made
when we were talking about it versus the Buffalo Bills,
and he absolutely dominated the receiver on that screen across
the middle because he saw that play coming. He sniffed
it out like he was a wizard out there. That's
how he made majority of his play. Same with his interceptions.
He knew the screen was coming. He backed off. He
knew that when he got dropped, he wasn't going to
just go to the quarterback and get a free sack.
(21:50):
He knew there must be a different type of play coming.
Oh it's going to be a screen or it's a
gimmick or something. I mean, he was smart, bro, He
was very smart.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
On that football field.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean yeah, he was a freak for his size,
I mean three sixty, just the way that he could move,
his athletic ability. Kind of a dude's dude as well,
with his barbecues, man inviting the guys over, having that
barbecue sauce for everyone.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
He's also a fucking dog.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, he was a dog.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
He was grimy in there. Oh yeah, when you're the
guy taking the double team the whole time, and you
know you have to go getting six hundred pounds every
fucking play because he's taking double teams every play six
hundred pounds, and he would.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Take those double teams and kind of just eat those
double teams up, he really would, and just let that
linebacker just free to go in and make the place.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And he's a fucking stud is atltus Susan he is, man.
I mean he could shoot a basketball. I mean he's
insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing,
You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched golf.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
This is a true tough one. Man.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince
Wolfork to just one category.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you
expect one?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Oh man, hold on, let me keep thinking thinking about
this man. Oh all right, all right.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
One, two, three, fuiz ah man, oh man, I know, man,
he is a freak though, but he's he's so smart.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Man, I'm telling you he's a smart football player.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, but that goes into his freakiness where you think
a guy that looks like him isn't smart. He's great freak.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
He's great in commercials too, like you see him in
that stove commercials now like grilling and all that he's
on TV. But you also just sitting there like smart
large gotta be smart large guy right now that, like
we said, we're categorizing freaks. As you're just looking at someone,
You're like, how can they possibly do that?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Size?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Also also like feet, can we say, yeah, he's he's
a wizard though, Can you.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Agree with that?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I mean, I always mean Bill talking about how smart
he is a football player instinctive.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So I do agree he is a freak of nature.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know,
to move that while on the football field, take on
double teams and just squash him. Just the way he
tackled guys too. They would go right down. There was
no mistackles by Vince Wallfork. When he got your hands
on you.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No, so he drape you down and he swallow you.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
All right, we'll try again. Let's do it again.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
One, two three, freak Stamp it.
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