November 9, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Games of Names.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Bill Bird gives his mount rushmore of Boston athletes.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So what's your Boston hierarchy of sports?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Boston hierarchy? Well, pick, I'll give you my top five
top five, and okay, you gotta go Bill Russell. As
far as the Celtics hierarchy, Bill Russell, that's the foundation.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Bird.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Listen, how are you gonna let me answer it? You're
just gonna do it. I'm just gonna Bobby Larry Bird.
You probably lived in Southee and you stole cars and
you were good at math, and you said, how do
you like them apples? Huh?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Listen, movie.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I already already was judging you because you were from Kansas,
but the fact that you're from California. You know what's
funny about Ropeblublicans is they love TV people. They will
fucking because I was just thinking, like the other day,
it's like they keep electing the host of a reality
show TV star, right, they like the host of the Apprentice,
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they like Schwarzeneger movies, Reagan No, and then watching like Trump,
I don't know what he's doing. He's like talking about
national security with doctor Phil. Have you seen his ratings?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
It's like Trump, this is a little more fucking important.
And then he replaced a warmonger with dementia. The joke
I've been doing my actors the last three president's elections.
We're picking presidents the way the Browns pick quarterbacks. We got,
We're in this vortex, we got, we gotta get out
of it. And then fortunately somebody comes along and whacks
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the CEO and gives us a chance to breathe a little.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So who's the Baker?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Who's the Baker Mayfield of presidents? In that Baker may too?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You know what, I love that, love that Colin Cowhard
has to stay up at night knowing he was wrong
and can't get himself to admit it, and his desk
is just going to keep getting bigger. I still have
to go to a physical therapist looking up at him
during those interviews I did on his show, Oh my god,
look at that? Would you look at that? Ty debtmur?
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I can't even.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh my god, Charlie Fry isn't win from the Brady draft, Yes, spurgeon.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Brady Quinn Jake, not the loan from uh the Panthers.
They got rid of him. He was a fucking baller.
He almost beat us. Uh was not afraid of the
Super Bowl, even remore Colt McCoy. Dude, they they should,
they should get all of these guys together and sit
around the biggest round table you could ever get, like
a forty seven person round table, and it's just called
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I was drafted number one by the Browns, and you
and you talk about all the success you had at
all levels leading up to that, and then he went
to the Browns and nobody blocked. And now for the
rest of your life, you go into a Dick Sporting
Good and some mantated fat fuck gets to say you sucked,
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like that's that's what you're signing up for.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Baker Bak won a playoff game for them.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Okay, so what what is my fascination was? It wasn't
always we were in the hierarchy of Boston, but oh okay,
all right, Bill Russell, Uh wait a second, stop throwing
fucking bird in there. Everybody's gonna say bird. There's other
Matt Damon Ben a flat fucking mock Wahlberg.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm a Bilberg guy.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Sorry, Joey mack u all right, Bird, will that get
you to stop?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That get you to stop?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
All right? Russell?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You notice my pasture. I'm just I'm gonna be like
laying flat by the end of this, crying about.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So Ernie came in here and talked for three hours,
and by the end he was like this sleeping.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, there's two different lists. There's the people that I
liked and then the best ever. Okay, some of them
are on the same list, so like the best ever.
You gotta go, Bird, I mean Bill Russell, Bird, I'm
going like Celtics right now. And that's it. I'm kidding.
I'm too old to remember anybody past the fucking nineties.
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Then he got it, Bobby orr who even warning Gretzky's
I said, that's the greatest of all time. Cam Neely,
cam Neely, you want fifty goals? And I beat the
fuck out of your team, you know that guy? And
he owned the Canadians when we couldn't beat the Canadians,
and we were all, oh my, oh, we'll go in
to the form. I'm gonna lose. He would get a hat
trick on Patrick Waugh, who changed the game for We
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move on, Kennelely.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Do you have a take on Olf Samuelson?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Do I have a take on him? Uh? My only
take on that guy is that whenever I hear Pittsburgh
fans whining about what they did to Sidney Crosby in
his career, it's like, you have Alf Samuelson in your
ring of honor. So I mean, I don't I mean,
live by this sword, die by this. They also had
Matt Cook. I mean, they just they like guys like
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that unless they're coming at them. So, you know, I
don't know, you know, whatever Alf did, he had, he
had like a long career, But I mean, I just
don't I don't think like going at somebody's knees. I
don't think that, you know. Okay, So then what did
what did that do for hockey? That took cam Neely away?
And then you're left with Alf Samuelson. So like, I
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don't mind guys that played physical and that type of thing.
You know, these guys that were on the line, like
Claude Claudelein Meeux, all right, that guy did a lot
of dirty ship. But he could also he could play
the game. So it's you know, I don't know, you
know what, fuck you for bringing his name up all
the fucking championships.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And shit, it's fucking sky.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, but western Massachusetts, that's that's not even America. Forget
about Massachusetts. That's just like people who can't find the
Appalachian Trail. Look at his beard. Do you think he
has running water in his house?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I don't either. And then as far as Patriots, I
mean John Hannah, Andre Tippetti, you gotta go. Steve Grogan
one of one of the great toughest fucking guys.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Grogan, dude.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Grogan played the last five years of his career wearing
a neck brace. He looked like he just got to
a car accident. And he played on AstroTurf and he
would hold that fucking ball until the like the camera
would always go at the ball. He would just see
him fly out of frame as the ball went like
that way, and he would just get up. The guy
just would get up. Yeah, he was Oh my god,
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that naked bootleg on Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Fifty yardists didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Fucking white guy giving us all hope. We could run.
I could make it. Stanley Morgan, there it is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He wore that.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
First of all, he had the same genetics as as
Peyton Manning, where they just had extra neck, you know
what I mean, like usually the helmet fits the thing.
I don't know what, I don't know what, you know.
I don't think Peyton's that brighter guy. So he's always
cheating on people, you know the papers. I think that
that's why it happened. I'm just fucking with I love Peyton,
but the fucking guy. I did his show and all
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he did was like he was like, remember when ELI
did this. It's like, yeah, I do, I don't remember
when you did it. Yeah, he always does that. Oh
my god. The cheating ass Colts. The fucking cheating ass Colts.
Brilliant dude.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You know what, I didn't realize how much I hated
the Colts until I started doing a podcast with Gronk
and seeing how much he hated the Colts.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You really hate the biggest whining bitches that ever. Fucking
it's AFC Championship banner runner up.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's what they have. They have an AFC runner up.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
How about how about the fact their owners sat on
the Competition Committee and made the way we were covering
their receivers illegal. And then they stole our offense and
won a fucking Super Bowl and they didn't say anything,
which I don't give a fuck. It's a dirty game.
But don't go around weighing a football. I mean, what
the fuck?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Same amount of their footballs were underinflated, underinflated, and he
hired this guy who said he was a scientist who wasn't.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
How about the fact.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That I still can't stand him right now.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
How about the fact that the owner of a losing
team was allowed to conduct an independent investigation that was
upheld by the NFL. Roger Goodell, that appetizer eating fucking
Fred Frindstone looking sack Roge. Okay, I get it. You
gotta protect your connections. I'm not a fan. And the
first thing Roger Goodell needs to do is buy a
suit that fucking fits all right. He always looks like
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he just ate a bunch of potato skins. That big
dub Fred Flintstone had he he should have been like,
you're not conducting an independent investigation?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I do that.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You're not gonna be the fuck are you? And he
went like, oh yeah, this looks pretty good. Like, what
the fuck?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
What was that quick question?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Why do all comedians drink drink the liquid death?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, I initially got into this ship because because it's
it's rather than being a plastic bottle.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And I know you're so green friendly.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You've just you ask questions and then you fucking interrupt.
I've never even got to my list.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, I just don't got random.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm random ado, Okay, so high art.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
He's wearing women's shoes and now he's explaining away his
behavior with diagnosis. Are you self diagnosed.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
As add or don't know?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Can I tell you something you don't? You don't have
a d d well childhood trauma. No, Well that if
you actually sat still and you figure you sat and
thought about what a dick your dad was, that's why
that's me.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I like me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
My my dad was a fucking loom. I don't know
what happened to him with old pipe smoker. By the
time I met him, he was fucking ninety. I don't
know what he did when he's still when he's still
his last couple of years in the league, when he
was forty, I don't know what he did to my dad.
But you know, we all paid for it. So like,
I literally cannot fucking sit still in my own house.
I have to be doing I'm playing a guitar, I'm
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over here, I'm fucking making an egg. I'm just like
I'm all over the place.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, but I was a little bit or like third grade.
The principal brought my parents into the the office and said, yeah,
we recommend your your son needs riddling. My dad almost
fought him.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's a good dad, He goes, you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Ain't putting my kid on medicine. Yeah, Frank, oh, Frank, you.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Know came up with riddling teachers who couldn't control the classroom,
so they just started drugging class clowns. And that's the
story that they don't want you to know.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So Russell Bird, you.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Can fact check that on the internet, where you can
lye your ass off on your webroag grog.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
John Hannah, John Hannah, No, Mike Haynes, No, Brady.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Mike Haynes. Well, I'm still in pat Patriot.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, how many fucking people are on the hierarchy
Usually I'm mount rough it to you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yet, No, I didn't want to be on.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
There I'm gonna give you at the end of this podcast.
I'm gonna give you the hug your dad never gave you.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I see him looking at me right now and really
thinking about like, Yeah, this kid's he needs a hug.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, he needs a hug.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Or maybe I'm just projecting. Maybe I'm hoping that I
could get a hug from the hands that caught that
ball right off the turf. Maybe that could have Maybe
you could hold me gently rock me before I go
to my next dancing monkey gig that I have to do.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You do you do do a lot of these dancing
monkey gigs?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Because I do?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
And this is probably the bottom of the list.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Clearly not because three weeks ago Bill Burr actually showed
up to the fucking house.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I have him on my goddamn I clicked on the
wrong address and I fucking to the house and they
were like, you're not here for like another three weeks,
and I was like, what the fuck? I mean? That
is my day every fucking day, Like I just wake up,
and you know, I got to start moving forward to
get the demons behind me. It's like called the smoke.
I got to stay ahead of the smoke. So I
clicked on the wrong day and I ended up out
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here how far away was supposed to be on this
side of the you know, oh over there. You know,
it was what it was. And then I got there
and it didn't matter, you know what I mean. I
was like all stressed out. They're like, no, it's fine,
it's fine. It's like so one of these times just arbitrary,
like you know, ten o'clock whenever you want to get here, Like,
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I don't like being late.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You weren't he was Actually you were ten minutes early here.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, well I had to eat my avocado.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Avdo Okay, so we have we have the hierarchy of athlete.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
What's the hi No, we never even got through it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Keep going, all right?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So then I get to you guy, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Ben Coates, I love it.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Type Russ Francis. I forgot Russ Francis.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Fucking good?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Uh Steve Nelson, Uh, Bill and Titis, Leon Gray, Raymond Claiborne,
Tim Fox, Ohio State. Oh my god, that guy used
to fucking hit people. Sam Cunningham, Come on, Stanley Morgan,
I said him, said, right, okay, now we're in Drew
bledsoe Ben Coates, Curtis Martin.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Bloodsoe, you loved blood. Everyone loved Bloodsoe.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Teddy Dude, he made us legit. Uh, Teddy Bruce ki Uh,
Willie McGinnis will Yeah, I mean all of the fucking guys,
all of the guys, all of the fucking guys.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
What about your sports?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
How did Tom Brady? How does your fandom in sports go?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Does it?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And then I can only pick one white wide receiver,
so I'll go with Wes Welker standard standard, I mean, no, you, Yeah,
Julian Edelman, You're on the list, buddy. Thanks, I didn't
forget about you.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Next, Keegan Michael Key on the game that changed everything
for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Now, he's just the greatest game of all time.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I will say this, I think this may be the
greatest game of all time for the Detroit Lions franchise.
I think this is bigger than when Barry Sanders like
just went out of his mind against Dallas in ninety
one ninety two. Yeah, and that game was huge. But
the nineties is somehow, I mean, it's just math, right.
(14:30):
The nineties is certainly closer to the fifties than the
aughts are to the fifties or the twenties art of
the fifties, so that thirty that gap, that over thirty
year gap is huge. And the fact that if you
were a young when I was a young kid, we
still hung our hats on. Well, we won the nineteen
fifty seven championship, you know what I mean. But you
can't do that in the twenties, not in this news.
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It was just too long of a drought and too
significant of a drought there. This was so harrowing. I
thought to myself, Okay, after the previous season, after beating
Green Bay first of all, winning a divisional game in
Lambeau against Aaron Rodgers ending on a pick, it was
it was the hope was so high. Could you could
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taste it? And then I was deflated when I saw
the schedule come out and go, what it's us? We've
got to.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Play Casey in Arrowhead.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, And I thought to myself, maybe I afforded myself
just a small hint of hope. I mean, I believe
in Dan, I believe in Brad Holmes, our general manager.
I think we can win this game. The fact that
they came out with the victory, I think this is
such a market change in the culture of Detroit football.
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Those games that we would lose, those games that when
we get into overtime, they're going, Oh, they're just gonna
march down the field and get a field goal and
win those games where you're like, all we need to
do is stop them here, you know. Yeah, Detroit's big
one of our big signature things was always it's like
two thirty two in the fourth quarter, You're like, oh,
God is gonna get whatever first down they need, and
the team would always get the first time form an offense,
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and we'd always collapse and they would just seal the deal.
And this game, this game is going to be one
of the most important games, if not the most important
game in the annals of Detroit Lions football history because
of seeing this blueprint in action, seeing the culture literally change.
He needed this win.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't think you're crazy for saying that, Like that
is going out and beating the defending Super Bowl champs
after playing your best football at the end of this
at the end of the year, yep, after a rough,
rough start, you know, the end of the year, they
were playing really good ball, really good ball. To go
out and then we'll get it. We'll dive into the game.
But to to to go out and beat the defending
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champs on a platform where everyone is watching. That gives
your team confidence and to do it that's like a
that's like a switch that, like, guys, we believe actually
what we're preaching here now, that's that's a confirmation on
everything that the coaches were saying from that point on
after the season, you know, after the great the ending
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of their season, that right there, everything that they were
you know, preaching, to have that come out and start
the season the way they did that was that's that.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, I don't think you're crazy for saying that.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
No, I I appreciate it, says it says so much
about the direction that the team was going in. And
and I remember, I mean I was jazzed when we
were on hard Knocks and I thought that HBO made
a really good choice that that was the right time
to do it. We were the right time to pick.
It's like pick a team when it looks like there's
going to be a significant culture change. And I want
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to give a lot of credit to Sheila hamp to
Sheila Ford Hamp who's our who's our team owner, who
and and also to missus Ford, who is our team
owner emeritus. You know Sheila. I thought Sheila took a
very big swing, a very courageous big and I thought
it was a shrewd and a smart swing. When she
got Matt Patricia, I could see that in her mind,
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She's going, let's go somebody with somebody who's been in
a culture, in a winning culture for a long a
person you know very well who's been in a culture
for a very long time. I think he might be
able to make the shift. She made the right The
thinking was right, The thinking was right, So I thought
I was really I started feeling hopeful when Sheila kind
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of took over the reins for her mom. Martha is
a passionate football person. She loves her team, she loves
the staff. I think it was right for her to
kind of go, I'm going to give the reins over
to my daughter. I think she's got good ideas. I
think she's moving in the right direction. So I have
to give her kudos for that. Matt Patricia higher and
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then you know, I think that Dan, unless you're in
the league or a real huge sports maven, Dan was
not a completely unproven quantity Because I thought he did
really good stuff in Miami, and but he he he
again was the right choice. She just went swinging for
the fences.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Again. The shrewd choice was Brad Holmes. It was so funny.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I go, oh, I think this guy might be the
this might be the piece. So somebody who's whose career
was has been spent scouting scouting, scouting scouting, and for
him to say we're gonna build this team through the draft,
it's just balls. It takes balls. We're not gonna spend
a ton of money. We're gonna be the word is shrewd.
We're gonna be shrewd, and we're going to make make
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informed choices to build a future for this team. That's
another thing I love about our team is that we're
building a team that could be good for a decade.
It's not let's go try to win a super Bowl
in one year. Let's spend all their money, bankrupt ourselves,
go for what if you don't win? What if you
don't get the stan Kronky, What if you don't get
the Stafford effect and you don't win the Super Bowl?
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And then and then happens? Then what happened?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So I just shout out to Shila hamp Yeah, they've
definitely gone foundational.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Foundational.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
This is absolutely and that starts from the leader. And
you know, I'll get into more of the lines and
where I believe in them, We'll get in there. But
you know, mcdc is a great fit for that city.
I mean the toughness and you know, to show what
he's shown, everyone kind of thought he was just a
big old meathead.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But you know the guy, the guy knows football.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
They didn't know and he knows football. They didn't know
what he meant. I don't think they knew what he
meant when he said grit, because when he says grit,
I think part of grit is also mental fortitude, not.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Just testicular fortitude.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
But mental cerebral fortitude. It's both. It's like you said,
people thought he was a meathead and he's you know,
he got the passion, got the best of them. And
he said the kneecaps thing and blah blah blah blah blah.
It's the mental fortitude. On hard knocks. He did that
thing where he shook out the means, the dust out
of the close and say we've got to get this off.
We're not that team. But just because you're here in
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Allen Park, Michigan, in this training facility, let it. You
gotta let all that go at the door.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We're not.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
We're different. It's it's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
To watch it is that.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
It's that that the culture and the philosophy's actually work.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now we got Stavros Halki is giving us his Mount
Rushmore of Baltimore athletes.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
We got to have the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay of Baltimore athletes.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Or from Baltimore, from Baltimore. We could do.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
We can do a cultural. We could do a cultural.
We could do a culture, and we could do an athlete.
I mean, if you're talking athletes, obviously Cow's got to
be on there. It really comes down to, uh, I
think Cow's gotta be on there. Ray Lewis and Ed
Reid and then.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, what do you what's telling you in your head?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I just I see it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's just hard my answer. Don't say it? Are you
gonna say it?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I don't. I don't think I can.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Is there something about him?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
There is something about him?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Right, I'm not gonna say there's not something about him.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
It's a split.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I know that's a fucking completely, uh complete cowards way out,
but it is. It's the quarterback slot and it's for
it's it's a split right now, Lamar and Flacco. But
Lamar is so fucking like obviously this is a joke
character and I love Flacco and he is you know,
he's the fucking man super Bowl MVP. It's insane, one
of my favorite athletes. But Lamar is just like, you know,
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I just think he does get shipped on a little
too much. And obviously there's people who love him. I'm
not gonna say that he just has detractors. But he's
so fucking good. He's so electric. It's I think it's
got to be Lamar man.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right, all your thoughts on the resurgence of Joe
Flacco in Cleveland last year or two years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, I mean it's hard for me not to root
for Like, at the end of the day, I was
not scared of that team, and it's like part of me.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I mean, wait, did he sorry, did he actually stime
with the steels or is.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That a rumor? No? No, I don't crush it and
sign good right.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
No, No, I saw a rumor that he might anyway, so.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
That would have been brutal Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I mean this run honestly.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
That's also another reason I picked this game is that,
like I think, what is it is that, Like, yeah,
he had a legendary run, and I think he's fucking
really good and to be able to do this, you
have to be one of the best. Like, it's crazy
the amount of people that go on a who have
their best football during the during a super Bowl run
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is it's the best thing of all time. But I
think I think there's something about him. He feels relatable.
He's a mid Atlantic guy. He's like he seems like
a guy you might have grown up with. It's, you know,
from kind of I think he's like from the Philly bourbs.
He went to Delaware, went to fucking Delaware, he started,
he played, and he played in Baltimore. It's like he's
got that I know, even though he's not from Baltimore.
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He feels like a guy on Baltimore. It was never complicated.
The motherfucker just threw and he threw a beautiful deep.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Ball and he was faster than what people. Yeah, he
was we used to ever Bill he's talking about Flanco, like,
don't let this motherfucker out the pocket now. I'm just
telling you when he gets going to bring down. Yeah,
he's a big fucking guy. He's a big guy.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
He's huge, and and I think there was just something
awesome about him where it was like you just again he.
I also think there's a relatability in some ways, even
though again world class quarterback. You shouldn't relate to him,
you have nothing. The average fucking idiot on his couch
has nothing in common with Joe Flacco. But at the
end of the day, it's like he is from He
is from Delaware, like he he is a guy from
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around where we're from. And he nobody really believed in
him at any point this he he put his money
and I think for me anyway and for other people,
he could watch that and get inspired and be like,
I just need to fucking get it together when it
fucking matters, and like I could be a fucking legend forever.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And Joe had We had great years and I loved
rooting for him.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
But I think it was like the combination of getting
you a Super Bowl and just like how relatable and
how much like like people will ask him now in
interviews like oh do you, and they'll kind of try
and get him to like talk about how good the
Ravens are, but he's still like, I'm playing, motherfucker, I'm
still in the league if I want the Ravens, and
I like that attitude. It's like he's not he doesn't
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see it as like this like retirement tour. He sees like,
I still got I'm doing this fucking sign me and
I fucking love that dude, even though he might here's
the other thing, he might be wrong, right, but you
need that a belief if no one's if you have
to believe yourself more than anyone else to be successful
with these hard things. And he was like for for
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like him yanness like it is sports guys can absolutely
inspire you in your life for that, And I take
a lot of that from Flacco and and you know,
obviously Jiannis for how hard Giannis is like work ethic
turn it.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Coming from nothing to being one of the best.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And it's just sort of that kind of underdog story
and the fact that it ends with the super Bowl
and not super Bowl at a super Bowl that has
ray Lewis retires. Ed Reid got one with us, because
you know, Red is my favorite Raven, even though Ray
obviously is a legend. But there's just he was just
so fucking cool and he was just so so incredibly
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good and it was just such a special like that
kind of super Bowl keeps you going.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Now, did I want us to win this year? Absolutely?
I love Lamar.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
He's gaining on Reid for me because he's just incredible
to watch and he's so fucking good. And I would
have loved there was like the numerology every twelve years.
The quarterback's twenty eight years old. I thought for sure
we were winning because of that dumb bullshit. And then
it would have been if we'd gotten that one, I
literally wouldn't have needed another super Bowl for the rest
of my life, you know what I mean, Three at
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really pivotal points in my life would have been great.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
But we'll get him this year.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
So Ed Reid, let's we'll jump into this Baltimore team. Yes,
good segue is ed Reid. I remember Edward's last year?
He lit me up in Baltimore. Yeah, do you remember that.
I don't know if you remember that. We ended up losing.
It was two thousand and it was this year it
was the game that I played in. Edreid came and
he lit me up on a on a post them
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and he just was so swaggy about it, like got
a like he was just.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
A competitor, so cool.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Bill used to literally show like a forty play cut
up of Edrid every time we played him, and we're like, Bill,
we saw this six weeks ago, and he's like, he
just show another cut up like Ed Reid this fuck
he lost the one.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
That's the one vent diagram for me and Bill Belichick
is our admiration for Ed Reid is how much we
how much we respect him because I've seen him talk
about that and that's fucking cool. Yeah, and he'll show
those where it's like how smart he was to like
he was playing mine games with Peyton Manning. Yeah, it's insane.
And not only that, but he'll return kicks. He'll lateral
like those block kicks, So yeah, he's up and under.
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We used to show all our special teams his up
and under move on blocking kicks because he was that legendary.
So Ed Reid's one of your favorite guys from this
team for sure, Ray Lewis, you love him. Movie Joe
Flaws and Ogden. Ogden gets forgotten in the like Ray
because ray lowis obviously good, you know, but like it
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doesn't happen with that Ogden. They draft those guys the
same year that was our the you know, and and
like that's those are the cornerstones of our franchise. And
he's in many ways, I feel like Ogden is what
the perfect left tackle became.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
It's like that he got drafted a long time agoing
now it was just like he was so good it's insane.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He was.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
He was kind of like Tim Duncan where it's like
it's kind of boring, gets forgotten. But I don't think
those teams. I don't think we win that first super
Bowl with without him for sure. And it's like he
he does get a little I want to give him
his credit because he to me, it's him. I think
of him and Ray Lewis as are the initial stars
that got us off the ground together. And I feel
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like he gets forgotten too much offensive lineman. That's gonna happen,
but it happens. And also his personality is just like
a kind of a chill guy. He's not you know
that he's not doing the sick dances that everybody sees.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Linemen are in their own world for sure. They you
kind of have to be, you're getting, but they're the reason. Yeah,
I mean it's it's the trenches. I mean, you you
listen to all the game, it starts in the trenches.
It's true.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Next ice Cube talks about Tom Brady and the twenty
twenty five Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm always excited for the Raiders you met with as
president of Raider Nation. Have you met with Brady yet
to talk about the No?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think we should. We should brokerage this meeting. Okay,
And how are you looking about this new Raiders You know, we.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Got TV over there? Is that?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
What the f How do we feel fucking rule? We
got Tuck Rule guy, the fuck rule guy. We got
fuck Rule Brady. Yeah, now he's onning the team and
he's calling the shots.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
How do we feel about this? Raiders Nation? President?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Raider Nation, Raider Nation, Damn Raider Nation President.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We'll cut it in.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
You know, we feel like we've purged the enemy of
their of their superpower.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That's a Raider move right there, That's a Raider move.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Here's the enemy of their superpower. Hopefully we can plug
it in and use whatever juice is still.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Left on it.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
I'm excited for him, me too. You know, it's like
Pete cas a winner. He's a winner, Pete Carroll's a winner.
Jeane Smith Junie quarterback. I think he's a winner too.
I think he got a chip on his shoulder that
he uh, he ready to get it off.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So that sounds like a raider he want to sounds
like a lot to prove to me. It's like a
Jim Plunkett.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Yeah, in a way, you know, who was a Patriot, first.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Pick, first pick, So it could it could work. How
we think about him, I think he's gonna be a stud. Yeah,
me too. You know, we always pick good running backs.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
But we don't hold him long enough, you know we
we I mean, we don't get the pieces around him
quick enough for them to do what they do.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, it's either we we.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Pretty good on my offence and you know usually need
work on defense.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, I'm excited. I'm excited for the Raiders. I'm always
excited for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
You met with as president of Raider Nation. Have you
met with Brady.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yet to talk about the no I haven't I think
we should. We should brokerage this meeting.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Okay, And just so what I'm gonna tell don't funk
shut up exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Hey, give him that lad ship, you know, fun up,
give him the fucking Raiders ship. Okay, you gotta do
you gotta baptize his ass.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Stole the soul. He stole the soul.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Nah'll be like, man, please please tell these motherfuckers what
to do.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
To get a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
If you're Tom Brady for a day, what are you
doing as Raider owners?
Speaker 7 (32:19):
As I mean, Tom, I don't know how much he
really can do, you know, but but add a lot
of suggestions to the suggestion box.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Like being an owner and a minority owner in sports
is it's kind of like just being a cheer leading
a Super ticket season holder, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It is.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
It's like a super season ticket holder. You know, you
get invited to a few things, but I don't know
how much they listen to you.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, we're gonna find out. Yeah, we'll see a lot
of it depends on whoever the governing governing person.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Well, Mark, you know one thing, I like Mark Davis,
and you know he's he's a good dude. He'll listen
to smart people. You know, he's not one of those
hard those dudes who was not looking to you know,
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get smarter, get better, figure out, you know, who's who's
the best at what they do, and let him do
what they do without over interfering.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Sometimes you gotta let people cook.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yeah, you know, his pops was accused of too much
being in the sauce, a little too much. I think
he you take a slightly different approach. He how to
write people and let them do their thing. And you
know they either swim, must sink or swim, you know
what I mean, on their own.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You gotta you know, it's tough, you know, patience is huge.
That's a tough position to be in. Because the holy
trinity in football is the owner, gm head coach. That's
the trinity. Yeah, and you actually it's the quarterback too,
It's the holy qutuity whatever that.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Shit is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
So you got to have all those, you know, but
you gotta be patient enough to let it marinate. You
gotta gotta let them meet marinate. You can't just you know,
you put put it on real You gotta let that
thing sit for twenty four hours in the fridge forty years.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You know, games are long and you can't panic. You know,
you can like you can't win a game in the
first quarter, but you can lose a game in the
first quarter.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
You know what I'm saying. You could do some stupid ship.
So that's real.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Sometimes you just gotta let the guys play. And to me,
it's really like owner cool GM whatever head coach do
the guys. Are the guys playing their ass off for
this coach and if they are, you know, you gotta
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kind of let it roll. They're not playing their ass
off for this coach, then it's something you need to do.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, but that sometimes you don't have the right players
for that coach. That's me. That's the thing. You know,
Like the GM brings in these guys that don't acclimate
to the system that they're trying to put them in.
That's why it's a holy quatrinity whatever the c whatever.
That's why in the Big Three we don't have a gym. See,
that's why you don't have GM.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
We have a player captain and he gets to pick
two co captains who he's gonna play with, and then
they draft two other players, So we.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Don't have that pea.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
He already the chemistry is gonna be there. He's not
gonna pick a guy he don't think he can win
with that. He don't get along with that, he won't
go to war with I get it. So I think
that that the other sports leagues need to try to
learn a little from that, because yeah, GM can put
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together a bunch of bullshit, you know what I mean,
like and and that you can't really who's on the
field or they're not working together.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And then but it's one of those things where then
you got the owner, and then you got the head
coach and the GM. The head coach has a meeting
with the owner says, I don't got the fucking players, man,
I don't tell you. Then the GM comes and says, man,
we got the best players in the fucking league, but
we don't have a goddamn coach. And so it's up
to a guy that has to make the decision that's
not really a football guy. You know, usually in most scenarios,
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someone that's around the game. You guys were blessed to
have Al Davis, who was a fucking coach, GM commissioner
everything for the league, so he knew football.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
He could make those decisions.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
But a lot of the time these people don't have
that ability to know what they're even doing.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
A smarter owner, to me would know what he don't know.
And we have a football guy there you go handle
that shit.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
I don't even hear about it, Like, go talk to
my football guy. I'm just gonna go sit in the
stands with my goddamn family man, take pictures.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Better win and better win.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new
episode and every Sunday for another Games with Names Highlight
Day
Welcome to Games of Names.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation
Highlight Reel starting now.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Bill Bird gives his mount rushmore of Boston athletes.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So what's your Boston hierarchy of sports?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Boston hierarchy? Well, pick, I'll give you my top five
top five, and okay, you gotta go Bill Russell. As
far as the Celtics hierarchy, Bill Russell, that's the foundation.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Bird.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Listen, how are you gonna let me answer it? You're
just gonna do it. I'm just gonna Bobby Larry Bird.
You probably lived in Southee and you stole cars and
you were good at math, and you said, how do
you like them apples? Huh?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Listen, movie.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I already already was judging you because you were from Kansas,
but the fact that you're from California. You know what's
funny about Ropeblublicans is they love TV people. They will
fucking because I was just thinking, like the other day,
it's like they keep electing the host of a reality
show TV star, right, they like the host of the Apprentice,
(01:16):
they like Schwarzeneger movies, Reagan No, and then watching like Trump,
I don't know what he's doing. He's like talking about
national security with doctor Phil. Have you seen his ratings?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
It's like Trump, this is a little more fucking important.
And then he replaced a warmonger with dementia. The joke
I've been doing my actors the last three president's elections.
We're picking presidents the way the Browns pick quarterbacks. We got,
We're in this vortex, we got, we gotta get out
of it. And then fortunately somebody comes along and whacks
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the CEO and gives us a chance to breathe a little.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So who's the Baker?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Who's the Baker Mayfield of presidents? In that Baker may too?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You know what, I love that, love that Colin Cowhard
has to stay up at night knowing he was wrong
and can't get himself to admit it, and his desk
is just going to keep getting bigger. I still have
to go to a physical therapist looking up at him
during those interviews I did on his show, Oh my god,
look at that? Would you look at that? Ty debtmur?
(02:22):
I can't even.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh my god, Charlie Fry isn't win from the Brady draft, Yes, spurgeon.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Brady Quinn Jake, not the loan from uh the Panthers.
They got rid of him. He was a fucking baller.
He almost beat us. Uh was not afraid of the
Super Bowl, even remore Colt McCoy. Dude, they they should,
they should get all of these guys together and sit
around the biggest round table you could ever get, like
a forty seven person round table, and it's just called
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I was drafted number one by the Browns, and you
and you talk about all the success you had at
all levels leading up to that, and then he went
to the Browns and nobody blocked. And now for the
rest of your life, you go into a Dick Sporting
Good and some mantated fat fuck gets to say you sucked,
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like that's that's what you're signing up for.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Baker Bak won a playoff game for them.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Okay, so what what is my fascination was? It wasn't
always we were in the hierarchy of Boston, but oh okay,
all right, Bill Russell, Uh wait a second, stop throwing
fucking bird in there. Everybody's gonna say bird. There's other
Matt Damon Ben a flat fucking mock Wahlberg.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm a Bilberg guy.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Sorry, Joey mack u all right, Bird, will that get
you to stop?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That get you to stop?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
All right? Russell?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You notice my pasture. I'm just I'm gonna be like
laying flat by the end of this, crying about.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So Ernie came in here and talked for three hours,
and by the end he was like this sleeping.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, there's two different lists. There's the people that I
liked and then the best ever. Okay, some of them
are on the same list, so like the best ever.
You gotta go, Bird, I mean Bill Russell, Bird, I'm
going like Celtics right now. And that's it. I'm kidding.
I'm too old to remember anybody past the fucking nineties.
(04:22):
Then he got it, Bobby orr who even warning Gretzky's
I said, that's the greatest of all time. Cam Neely,
cam Neely, you want fifty goals? And I beat the
fuck out of your team, you know that guy? And
he owned the Canadians when we couldn't beat the Canadians,
and we were all, oh my, oh, we'll go in
to the form. I'm gonna lose. He would get a hat
trick on Patrick Waugh, who changed the game for We
(04:42):
move on, Kennelely.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Do you have a take on Olf Samuelson?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Do I have a take on him? Uh? My only
take on that guy is that whenever I hear Pittsburgh
fans whining about what they did to Sidney Crosby in
his career, it's like, you have Alf Samuelson in your
ring of honor. So I mean, I don't I mean,
live by this sword, die by this. They also had
Matt Cook. I mean, they just they like guys like
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that unless they're coming at them. So, you know, I
don't know, you know, whatever Alf did, he had, he
had like a long career, But I mean, I just
don't I don't think like going at somebody's knees. I
don't think that, you know. Okay, So then what did
what did that do for hockey? That took cam Neely away?
And then you're left with Alf Samuelson. So like, I
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don't mind guys that played physical and that type of thing.
You know, these guys that were on the line, like
Claude Claudelein Meeux, all right, that guy did a lot
of dirty ship. But he could also he could play
the game. So it's you know, I don't know, you
know what, fuck you for bringing his name up all
the fucking championships.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And shit, it's fucking sky.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, but western Massachusetts, that's that's not even America. Forget
about Massachusetts. That's just like people who can't find the
Appalachian Trail. Look at his beard. Do you think he
has running water in his house?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I don't either. And then as far as Patriots, I
mean John Hannah, Andre Tippetti, you gotta go. Steve Grogan
one of one of the great toughest fucking guys.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Grogan, dude.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Grogan played the last five years of his career wearing
a neck brace. He looked like he just got to
a car accident. And he played on AstroTurf and he
would hold that fucking ball until the like the camera
would always go at the ball. He would just see
him fly out of frame as the ball went like
that way, and he would just get up. The guy
just would get up. Yeah, he was Oh my god,
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that naked bootleg on Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Fifty yardists didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Fucking white guy giving us all hope. We could run.
I could make it. Stanley Morgan, there it is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He wore that.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
First of all, he had the same genetics as as
Peyton Manning, where they just had extra neck, you know
what I mean, like usually the helmet fits the thing.
I don't know what, I don't know what, you know.
I don't think Peyton's that brighter guy. So he's always
cheating on people, you know the papers. I think that
that's why it happened. I'm just fucking with I love Peyton,
but the fucking guy. I did his show and all
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he did was like he was like, remember when ELI
did this. It's like, yeah, I do, I don't remember
when you did it. Yeah, he always does that. Oh
my god. The cheating ass Colts. The fucking cheating ass Colts.
Brilliant dude.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You know what, I didn't realize how much I hated
the Colts until I started doing a podcast with Gronk
and seeing how much he hated the Colts.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You really hate the biggest whining bitches that ever. Fucking
it's AFC Championship banner runner up.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's what they have. They have an AFC runner up.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
How about how about the fact their owners sat on
the Competition Committee and made the way we were covering
their receivers illegal. And then they stole our offense and
won a fucking Super Bowl and they didn't say anything,
which I don't give a fuck. It's a dirty game.
But don't go around weighing a football. I mean, what
the fuck?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Same amount of their footballs were underinflated, underinflated, and he
hired this guy who said he was a scientist who wasn't.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
How about the fact.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That I still can't stand him right now.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
How about the fact that the owner of a losing
team was allowed to conduct an independent investigation that was
upheld by the NFL. Roger Goodell, that appetizer eating fucking
Fred Frindstone looking sack Roge. Okay, I get it. You
gotta protect your connections. I'm not a fan. And the
first thing Roger Goodell needs to do is buy a
suit that fucking fits all right. He always looks like
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he just ate a bunch of potato skins. That big
dub Fred Flintstone had he he should have been like,
you're not conducting an independent investigation?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I do that.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You're not gonna be the fuck are you? And he
went like, oh yeah, this looks pretty good. Like, what
the fuck?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
What was that quick question?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Why do all comedians drink drink the liquid death?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, I initially got into this ship because because it's
it's rather than being a plastic bottle.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And I know you're so green friendly.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You've just you ask questions and then you fucking interrupt.
I've never even got to my list.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, I just don't got random.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm random ado, Okay, so high art.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
He's wearing women's shoes and now he's explaining away his
behavior with diagnosis. Are you self diagnosed.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
As add or don't know?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Can I tell you something you don't? You don't have
a d d well childhood trauma. No, Well that if
you actually sat still and you figure you sat and
thought about what a dick your dad was, that's why
that's me.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I like me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
My my dad was a fucking loom. I don't know
what happened to him with old pipe smoker. By the
time I met him, he was fucking ninety. I don't
know what he did when he's still when he's still
his last couple of years in the league, when he
was forty, I don't know what he did to my dad.
But you know, we all paid for it. So like,
I literally cannot fucking sit still in my own house.
I have to be doing I'm playing a guitar, I'm
(10:08):
over here, I'm fucking making an egg. I'm just like
I'm all over the place.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, but I was a little bit or like third grade.
The principal brought my parents into the the office and said, yeah,
we recommend your your son needs riddling. My dad almost
fought him.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's a good dad, He goes, you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Ain't putting my kid on medicine. Yeah, Frank, oh, Frank, you.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Know came up with riddling teachers who couldn't control the classroom,
so they just started drugging class clowns. And that's the
story that they don't want you to know.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So Russell Bird, you.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Can fact check that on the internet, where you can
lye your ass off on your webroag grog.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
John Hannah, John Hannah, No, Mike Haynes, No, Brady.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Mike Haynes. Well, I'm still in pat Patriot.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, how many fucking people are on the hierarchy
Usually I'm mount rough it to you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yet, No, I didn't want to be on.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
There I'm gonna give you at the end of this podcast.
I'm gonna give you the hug your dad never gave you.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I see him looking at me right now and really
thinking about like, Yeah, this kid's he needs a hug.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, he needs a hug.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Or maybe I'm just projecting. Maybe I'm hoping that I
could get a hug from the hands that caught that
ball right off the turf. Maybe that could have Maybe
you could hold me gently rock me before I go
to my next dancing monkey gig that I have to do.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You do you do do a lot of these dancing
monkey gigs?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Because I do?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
And this is probably the bottom of the list.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Clearly not because three weeks ago Bill Burr actually showed
up to the fucking house.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I have him on my goddamn I clicked on the
wrong address and I fucking to the house and they
were like, you're not here for like another three weeks,
and I was like, what the fuck? I mean? That
is my day every fucking day, Like I just wake up,
and you know, I got to start moving forward to
get the demons behind me. It's like called the smoke.
I got to stay ahead of the smoke. So I
clicked on the wrong day and I ended up out
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here how far away was supposed to be on this
side of the you know, oh over there. You know,
it was what it was. And then I got there
and it didn't matter, you know what I mean. I
was like all stressed out. They're like, no, it's fine,
it's fine. It's like so one of these times just arbitrary,
like you know, ten o'clock whenever you want to get here, Like,
(12:39):
I don't like being late.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You weren't he was Actually you were ten minutes early here.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, well I had to eat my avocado.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Avdo Okay, so we have we have the hierarchy of athlete.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
What's the hi No, we never even got through it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Keep going, all right?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So then I get to you guy, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Ben Coates, I love it.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Type Russ Francis. I forgot Russ Francis.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Fucking good?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Uh Steve Nelson, Uh, Bill and Titis, Leon Gray, Raymond Claiborne,
Tim Fox, Ohio State. Oh my god, that guy used
to fucking hit people. Sam Cunningham, Come on, Stanley Morgan,
I said him, said, right, okay, now we're in Drew
bledsoe Ben Coates, Curtis Martin.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Bloodsoe, you loved blood. Everyone loved Bloodsoe.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Teddy Dude, he made us legit. Uh, Teddy Bruce ki Uh,
Willie McGinnis will Yeah, I mean all of the fucking guys,
all of the guys, all of the fucking guys.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
What about your sports?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
How did Tom Brady? How does your fandom in sports go?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Does it?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And then I can only pick one white wide receiver,
so I'll go with Wes Welker standard standard, I mean, no, you, Yeah,
Julian Edelman, You're on the list, buddy. Thanks, I didn't
forget about you.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Next, Keegan Michael Key on the game that changed everything
for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Now, he's just the greatest game of all time.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I will say this, I think this may be the
greatest game of all time for the Detroit Lions franchise.
I think this is bigger than when Barry Sanders like
just went out of his mind against Dallas in ninety
one ninety two. Yeah, and that game was huge. But
the nineties is somehow, I mean, it's just math, right.
(14:30):
The nineties is certainly closer to the fifties than the
aughts are to the fifties or the twenties art of
the fifties, so that thirty that gap, that over thirty
year gap is huge. And the fact that if you
were a young when I was a young kid, we
still hung our hats on. Well, we won the nineteen
fifty seven championship, you know what I mean. But you
can't do that in the twenties, not in this news.
(14:52):
It was just too long of a drought and too
significant of a drought there. This was so harrowing. I
thought to myself, Okay, after the previous season, after beating
Green Bay first of all, winning a divisional game in
Lambeau against Aaron Rodgers ending on a pick, it was
it was the hope was so high. Could you could
(15:12):
taste it? And then I was deflated when I saw
the schedule come out and go, what it's us? We've
got to.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Play Casey in Arrowhead.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, And I thought to myself, maybe I afforded myself
just a small hint of hope. I mean, I believe
in Dan, I believe in Brad Holmes, our general manager.
I think we can win this game. The fact that
they came out with the victory, I think this is
such a market change in the culture of Detroit football.
(15:42):
Those games that we would lose, those games that when
we get into overtime, they're going, Oh, they're just gonna
march down the field and get a field goal and
win those games where you're like, all we need to
do is stop them here, you know. Yeah, Detroit's big
one of our big signature things was always it's like
two thirty two in the fourth quarter, You're like, oh,
God is gonna get whatever first down they need, and
the team would always get the first time form an offense,
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and we'd always collapse and they would just seal the deal.
And this game, this game is going to be one
of the most important games, if not the most important
game in the annals of Detroit Lions football history because
of seeing this blueprint in action, seeing the culture literally change.
He needed this win.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't think you're crazy for saying that, Like that
is going out and beating the defending Super Bowl champs
after playing your best football at the end of this
at the end of the year, yep, after a rough,
rough start, you know, the end of the year, they
were playing really good ball, really good ball. To go
out and then we'll get it. We'll dive into the game.
But to to to go out and beat the defending
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champs on a platform where everyone is watching. That gives
your team confidence and to do it that's like a
that's like a switch that, like, guys, we believe actually
what we're preaching here now, that's that's a confirmation on
everything that the coaches were saying from that point on
after the season, you know, after the great the ending
(17:12):
of their season, that right there, everything that they were
you know, preaching, to have that come out and start
the season the way they did that was that's that.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, I don't think you're crazy for saying that.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
No, I I appreciate it, says it says so much
about the direction that the team was going in. And
and I remember, I mean I was jazzed when we
were on hard Knocks and I thought that HBO made
a really good choice that that was the right time
to do it. We were the right time to pick.
It's like pick a team when it looks like there's
going to be a significant culture change. And I want
(17:45):
to give a lot of credit to Sheila hamp to
Sheila Ford Hamp who's our who's our team owner, who
and and also to missus Ford, who is our team
owner emeritus. You know Sheila. I thought Sheila took a
very big swing, a very courageous big and I thought
it was a shrewd and a smart swing. When she
got Matt Patricia, I could see that in her mind,
(18:07):
She's going, let's go somebody with somebody who's been in
a culture, in a winning culture for a long a
person you know very well who's been in a culture
for a very long time. I think he might be
able to make the shift. She made the right The
thinking was right, The thinking was right, So I thought
I was really I started feeling hopeful when Sheila kind
(18:27):
of took over the reins for her mom. Martha is
a passionate football person. She loves her team, she loves
the staff. I think it was right for her to
kind of go, I'm going to give the reins over
to my daughter. I think she's got good ideas. I
think she's moving in the right direction. So I have
to give her kudos for that. Matt Patricia higher and
(18:48):
then you know, I think that Dan, unless you're in
the league or a real huge sports maven, Dan was
not a completely unproven quantity Because I thought he did
really good stuff in Miami, and but he he he
again was the right choice. She just went swinging for
the fences.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Again. The shrewd choice was Brad Holmes. It was so funny.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I go, oh, I think this guy might be the
this might be the piece. So somebody who's whose career
was has been spent scouting scouting, scouting scouting, and for
him to say we're gonna build this team through the draft,
it's just balls. It takes balls. We're not gonna spend
a ton of money. We're gonna be the word is shrewd.
We're gonna be shrewd, and we're going to make make
(19:37):
informed choices to build a future for this team. That's
another thing I love about our team is that we're
building a team that could be good for a decade.
It's not let's go try to win a super Bowl
in one year. Let's spend all their money, bankrupt ourselves,
go for what if you don't win? What if you
don't get the stan Kronky, What if you don't get
the Stafford effect and you don't win the Super Bowl?
(19:59):
And then and then happens? Then what happened?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So I just shout out to Shila hamp Yeah, they've
definitely gone foundational.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Foundational.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
This is absolutely and that starts from the leader. And
you know, I'll get into more of the lines and
where I believe in them, We'll get in there. But
you know, mcdc is a great fit for that city.
I mean the toughness and you know, to show what
he's shown, everyone kind of thought he was just a
big old meathead.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But you know the guy, the guy knows football.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
They didn't know and he knows football. They didn't know
what he meant. I don't think they knew what he
meant when he said grit, because when he says grit,
I think part of grit is also mental fortitude, not.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Just testicular fortitude.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
But mental cerebral fortitude. It's both. It's like you said,
people thought he was a meathead and he's you know,
he got the passion, got the best of them. And
he said the kneecaps thing and blah blah blah blah blah.
It's the mental fortitude. On hard knocks. He did that
thing where he shook out the means, the dust out
of the close and say we've got to get this off.
We're not that team. But just because you're here in
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Allen Park, Michigan, in this training facility, let it. You
gotta let all that go at the door.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We're not.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
We're different. It's it's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
To watch it is that.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
It's that that the culture and the philosophy's actually work.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now we got Stavros Halki is giving us his Mount
Rushmore of Baltimore athletes.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
We got to have the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay of Baltimore athletes.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Or from Baltimore, from Baltimore. We could do.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
We can do a cultural. We could do a cultural.
We could do a culture, and we could do an athlete.
I mean, if you're talking athletes, obviously Cow's got to
be on there. It really comes down to, uh, I
think Cow's gotta be on there. Ray Lewis and Ed
Reid and then.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, what do you what's telling you in your head?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I just I see it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's just hard my answer. Don't say it? Are you
gonna say it?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I don't. I don't think I can.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Is there something about him?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
There is something about him?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Right, I'm not gonna say there's not something about him.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
It's a split.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I know that's a fucking completely, uh complete cowards way out,
but it is. It's the quarterback slot and it's for
it's it's a split right now, Lamar and Flacco. But
Lamar is so fucking like obviously this is a joke
character and I love Flacco and he is you know,
he's the fucking man super Bowl MVP. It's insane, one
of my favorite athletes. But Lamar is just like, you know,
(22:37):
I just think he does get shipped on a little
too much. And obviously there's people who love him. I'm
not gonna say that he just has detractors. But he's
so fucking good. He's so electric. It's I think it's
got to be Lamar man.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right, all your thoughts on the resurgence of Joe
Flacco in Cleveland last year or two years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, I mean it's hard for me not to root
for Like, at the end of the day, I was
not scared of that team, and it's like part of me.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I mean, wait, did he sorry, did he actually stime
with the steels or is.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That a rumor? No? No, I don't crush it and
sign good right.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
No, No, I saw a rumor that he might anyway, so.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
That would have been brutal Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I mean this run honestly.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
That's also another reason I picked this game is that,
like I think, what is it is that, Like, yeah,
he had a legendary run, and I think he's fucking
really good and to be able to do this, you
have to be one of the best. Like, it's crazy
the amount of people that go on a who have
their best football during the during a super Bowl run
(23:37):
is it's the best thing of all time. But I
think I think there's something about him. He feels relatable.
He's a mid Atlantic guy. He's like he seems like
a guy you might have grown up with. It's, you know,
from kind of I think he's like from the Philly bourbs.
He went to Delaware, went to fucking Delaware, he started,
he played, and he played in Baltimore. It's like he's
got that I know, even though he's not from Baltimore.
(23:58):
He feels like a guy on Baltimore. It was never complicated.
The motherfucker just threw and he threw a beautiful deep.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Ball and he was faster than what people. Yeah, he
was we used to ever Bill he's talking about Flanco, like,
don't let this motherfucker out the pocket now. I'm just
telling you when he gets going to bring down. Yeah,
he's a big fucking guy. He's a big guy.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
He's huge, and and I think there was just something
awesome about him where it was like you just again he.
I also think there's a relatability in some ways, even
though again world class quarterback. You shouldn't relate to him,
you have nothing. The average fucking idiot on his couch
has nothing in common with Joe Flacco. But at the
end of the day, it's like he is from He
is from Delaware, like he he is a guy from
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around where we're from. And he nobody really believed in
him at any point this he he put his money
and I think for me anyway and for other people,
he could watch that and get inspired and be like,
I just need to fucking get it together when it
fucking matters, and like I could be a fucking legend forever.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And Joe had We had great years and I loved
rooting for him.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
But I think it was like the combination of getting
you a Super Bowl and just like how relatable and
how much like like people will ask him now in
interviews like oh do you, and they'll kind of try
and get him to like talk about how good the
Ravens are, but he's still like, I'm playing, motherfucker, I'm
still in the league if I want the Ravens, and
I like that attitude. It's like he's not he doesn't
(25:25):
see it as like this like retirement tour. He sees like,
I still got I'm doing this fucking sign me and
I fucking love that dude, even though he might here's
the other thing, he might be wrong, right, but you
need that a belief if no one's if you have
to believe yourself more than anyone else to be successful
with these hard things. And he was like for for
(25:45):
like him yanness like it is sports guys can absolutely
inspire you in your life for that, And I take
a lot of that from Flacco and and you know,
obviously Jiannis for how hard Giannis is like work ethic
turn it.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Coming from nothing to being one of the best.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And it's just sort of that kind of underdog story
and the fact that it ends with the super Bowl
and not super Bowl at a super Bowl that has
ray Lewis retires. Ed Reid got one with us, because
you know, Red is my favorite Raven, even though Ray
obviously is a legend. But there's just he was just
so fucking cool and he was just so so incredibly
(26:19):
good and it was just such a special like that
kind of super Bowl keeps you going.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Now, did I want us to win this year? Absolutely?
I love Lamar.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
He's gaining on Reid for me because he's just incredible
to watch and he's so fucking good. And I would
have loved there was like the numerology every twelve years.
The quarterback's twenty eight years old. I thought for sure
we were winning because of that dumb bullshit. And then
it would have been if we'd gotten that one, I
literally wouldn't have needed another super Bowl for the rest
of my life, you know what I mean, Three at
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really pivotal points in my life would have been great.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
But we'll get him this year.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
So Ed Reid, let's we'll jump into this Baltimore team. Yes,
good segue is ed Reid. I remember Edward's last year?
He lit me up in Baltimore. Yeah, do you remember that.
I don't know if you remember that. We ended up losing.
It was two thousand and it was this year it
was the game that I played in. Edreid came and
he lit me up on a on a post them
(27:18):
and he just was so swaggy about it, like got
a like he was just.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
A competitor, so cool.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Bill used to literally show like a forty play cut
up of Edrid every time we played him, and we're like, Bill,
we saw this six weeks ago, and he's like, he
just show another cut up like Ed Reid this fuck
he lost the one.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
That's the one vent diagram for me and Bill Belichick
is our admiration for Ed Reid is how much we
how much we respect him because I've seen him talk
about that and that's fucking cool. Yeah, and he'll show
those where it's like how smart he was to like
he was playing mine games with Peyton Manning. Yeah, it's insane.
And not only that, but he'll return kicks. He'll lateral
like those block kicks, So yeah, he's up and under.
(27:57):
We used to show all our special teams his up
and under move on blocking kicks because he was that legendary.
So Ed Reid's one of your favorite guys from this
team for sure, Ray Lewis, you love him. Movie Joe
Flaws and Ogden. Ogden gets forgotten in the like Ray
because ray lowis obviously good, you know, but like it
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doesn't happen with that Ogden. They draft those guys the
same year that was our the you know, and and
like that's those are the cornerstones of our franchise. And
he's in many ways, I feel like Ogden is what
the perfect left tackle became.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
It's like that he got drafted a long time agoing
now it was just like he was so good it's insane.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He was.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
He was kind of like Tim Duncan where it's like
it's kind of boring, gets forgotten. But I don't think
those teams. I don't think we win that first super
Bowl with without him for sure. And it's like he
he does get a little I want to give him
his credit because he to me, it's him. I think
of him and Ray Lewis as are the initial stars
that got us off the ground together. And I feel
(28:59):
like he gets forgotten too much offensive lineman. That's gonna happen,
but it happens. And also his personality is just like
a kind of a chill guy. He's not you know
that he's not doing the sick dances that everybody sees.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Linemen are in their own world for sure. They you
kind of have to be, you're getting, but they're the reason. Yeah,
I mean it's it's the trenches. I mean, you you
listen to all the game, it starts in the trenches.
It's true.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Next ice Cube talks about Tom Brady and the twenty
twenty five Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm always excited for the Raiders you met with as
president of Raider Nation. Have you met with Brady yet
to talk about the No?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think we should. We should brokerage this meeting. Okay,
And how are you looking about this new Raiders You know, we.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Got TV over there? Is that?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
What the f How do we feel fucking rule? We
got Tuck Rule guy, the fuck rule guy. We got
fuck Rule Brady. Yeah, now he's onning the team and
he's calling the shots.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
How do we feel about this? Raiders Nation? President?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Raider Nation, Raider Nation, Damn Raider Nation President.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We'll cut it in.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
You know, we feel like we've purged the enemy of
their of their superpower.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That's a Raider move right there, That's a Raider move.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Here's the enemy of their superpower. Hopefully we can plug
it in and use whatever juice is still.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Left on it.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
I'm excited for him, me too. You know, it's like
Pete cas a winner. He's a winner, Pete Carroll's a winner.
Jeane Smith Junie quarterback. I think he's a winner too.
I think he got a chip on his shoulder that
he uh, he ready to get it off.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So that sounds like a raider he want to sounds
like a lot to prove to me. It's like a
Jim Plunkett.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Yeah, in a way, you know, who was a Patriot, first.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Pick, first pick, So it could it could work. How
we think about him, I think he's gonna be a stud. Yeah,
me too. You know, we always pick good running backs.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
But we don't hold him long enough, you know we
we I mean, we don't get the pieces around him
quick enough for them to do what they do.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, it's either we we.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Pretty good on my offence and you know usually need
work on defense.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, I'm excited. I'm excited for the Raiders. I'm always
excited for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
You met with as president of Raider Nation. Have you
met with Brady.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yet to talk about the no I haven't I think
we should. We should brokerage this meeting.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Okay, And just so what I'm gonna tell don't funk
shut up exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Hey, give him that lad ship, you know, fun up,
give him the fucking Raiders ship. Okay, you gotta do
you gotta baptize his ass.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Stole the soul. He stole the soul.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Nah'll be like, man, please please tell these motherfuckers what
to do.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
To get a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
If you're Tom Brady for a day, what are you
doing as Raider owners?
Speaker 7 (32:19):
As I mean, Tom, I don't know how much he
really can do, you know, but but add a lot
of suggestions to the suggestion box.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Like being an owner and a minority owner in sports
is it's kind of like just being a cheer leading
a Super ticket season holder, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It is.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
It's like a super season ticket holder. You know, you
get invited to a few things, but I don't know
how much they listen to you.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, we're gonna find out. Yeah, we'll see a lot
of it depends on whoever the governing governing person.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Well, Mark, you know one thing, I like Mark Davis,
and you know he's he's a good dude. He'll listen
to smart people. You know, he's not one of those
hard those dudes who was not looking to you know,
(33:33):
get smarter, get better, figure out, you know, who's who's
the best at what they do, and let him do
what they do without over interfering.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Sometimes you gotta let people cook.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yeah, you know, his pops was accused of too much
being in the sauce, a little too much. I think
he you take a slightly different approach. He how to
write people and let them do their thing. And you
know they either swim, must sink or swim, you know
what I mean, on their own.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You gotta you know, it's tough, you know, patience is huge.
That's a tough position to be in. Because the holy
trinity in football is the owner, gm head coach. That's
the trinity. Yeah, and you actually it's the quarterback too,
It's the holy qutuity whatever that.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Shit is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
So you got to have all those, you know, but
you gotta be patient enough to let it marinate. You
gotta gotta let them meet marinate. You can't just you know,
you put put it on real You gotta let that
thing sit for twenty four hours in the fridge forty years.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You know, games are long and you can't panic. You know,
you can like you can't win a game in the
first quarter, but you can lose a game in the
first quarter.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
You know what I'm saying. You could do some stupid ship.
So that's real.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Sometimes you just gotta let the guys play. And to me,
it's really like owner cool GM whatever head coach do
the guys. Are the guys playing their ass off for
this coach and if they are, you know, you gotta
(35:21):
kind of let it roll. They're not playing their ass
off for this coach, then it's something you need to do.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, but that sometimes you don't have the right players
for that coach. That's me. That's the thing. You know,
Like the GM brings in these guys that don't acclimate
to the system that they're trying to put them in.
That's why it's a holy quatrinity whatever the c whatever.
That's why in the Big Three we don't have a gym. See,
that's why you don't have GM.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
We have a player captain and he gets to pick
two co captains who he's gonna play with, and then
they draft two other players, So we.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Don't have that pea.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
He already the chemistry is gonna be there. He's not
gonna pick a guy he don't think he can win
with that. He don't get along with that, he won't
go to war with I get it. So I think
that that the other sports leagues need to try to
learn a little from that, because yeah, GM can put
(36:22):
together a bunch of bullshit, you know what I mean,
like and and that you can't really who's on the
field or they're not working together.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And then but it's one of those things where then
you got the owner, and then you got the head
coach and the GM. The head coach has a meeting
with the owner says, I don't got the fucking players, man,
I don't tell you. Then the GM comes and says, man,
we got the best players in the fucking league, but
we don't have a goddamn coach. And so it's up
to a guy that has to make the decision that's
not really a football guy. You know, usually in most scenarios,
(36:52):
someone that's around the game. You guys were blessed to
have Al Davis, who was a fucking coach, GM commissioner
everything for the league, so he knew football.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
He could make those decisions.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
But a lot of the time these people don't have
that ability to know what they're even doing.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
A smarter owner, to me would know what he don't know.
And we have a football guy there you go handle
that shit.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
I don't even hear about it, Like, go talk to
my football guy. I'm just gonna go sit in the
stands with my goddamn family man, take pictures.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Better win and better win.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
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