August 10, 2025 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Games of Names. I'm Julie Entelman, and we
got a brand new compilation highlight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Reels starting now now Andrew Whitworth breaking down the Rams
game winning drive in Super Bowl fifty six.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
That drive though, with Stafford and cup Man unfreaking believable
that you found your guy. They meet every morning at
five am on Wednesdays, and it came to life right
there talking about process over results.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Baby, Now, how was how was matt right before that drive?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Was he?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
What was his temper?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How you know thing I'm gonna do? Just I mean,
not that you're scared of Matthew. He's real sensitive about
matt so we call him Matthew.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
He's like McConaughey, is the same way Kelly's gonna she's
gonna post answer. I'm just telling you, I like gonna get.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You on Insta. If you don't, you gotta call him Matthew.
I'm sorry, Matthew.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Matthew.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Very serious but still honestly, So, how was Maddie before that? Hey,
you're like me, I'm calling mathe rest of the day. No, anyway,
So no, you know what's wild is like when people
talk about the game right, like that's the things I
actually remember.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
It's like him walking in the huddle.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So you know, if people don't realize this, the quarterbacks
always on the side of the team like, so you know,
he's communicating the coach all those things. So obviously our
sideline is away from me, being the left tackle, and
so Matthew's over on that side until we're looking dead
into each other every time he's getting the call from Sean.
I and kind of see Sean in the background making
the calls, and I see Matthew like looking up at us,
and I never him getting in the uddle, and he
was like, hey man, let's let's go do something special
(01:34):
right here, you know, And there was just a look
in his eye Like I always said this, like Matthew
to me is like John Wayne, Like he just like
he's like this cowboy bad dude in the sense of
he's not a cowboy type guy, but he's just a
tough never hurt, never says a word like it's hit
you can literally like oh like nothing, won't say a
word like not blaming anybody, never tell you a thing
(01:56):
like they're draining his knee, his hip, whatever, Like he
doesn't care, like is just tough and that's who he is.
And so you're just like in the huddle, it's like,
let's go do something special.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Boys.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, it's like yes, sir, you know, like nobody's
touching you think of a necessary roughness if you will
the movie, like nobody's gonna touch you. You know, like
that's literally how you felt with Matthew Stafford in the huddle,
and you know that drive obviously him and Cup really
special and every play, you know, it's like that.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
You know, I look on the screen, it's like, hell.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Eas man, it's fifteen play drivet Gosh, it felt like
four months.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It literally like every we're like, oh we found a
first down. Oh we found a first down. Let's keep going,
Let's keep going, Let's keep going.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Uh So it was.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It was a wild, wild deal, but I think really special,
you know, you always think those things in the way
they end to have, those two guys, the relationship they formed,
the bond and commitment they made to meet every single morning.
We also that season had what we called the Breakfast Club.
Meet Stafford and Cup and our wives would meet every
single Tuesday morning for breakfast that whole entire season at
SOHO and uh soho soho and Malibu.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We met every week.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
They'd have it like they were all ready for us
every Tuesday morning, and it really became a great bonding
experience for us. And we even did it the week
of the super Bowl. And the roughest one was the
Tuesday after the super Bowl when we haven't none of
us have slept it all. But it was like, hey,
let's have one more and we met that morning and
it was like, dude, what a journey this whole year
we won a super Bowl. Now here we are sitting
here having breakfast again. It was a special year, you
(03:21):
know what.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And that last drive pretty much summed up that team.
Fifteen plays, you know, executing and got to have its situations,
key third downs, your go to players, making go to plays.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
One of the best, not Loooks ever but not the
I mean he invented it, you know, Patrick said this,
like I know the people, but like Mahmes has actually said,
like I grew up watching Stafford like throw thee like
he is the I know nobody like talks about that
much like he is the guy who like we invented
that for a long time, well, Joe, Joe used to.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Do it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, a flat, a little a little flat.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But you know he kind of took it a little
crazy a couple times a year across the damn middle.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No one doesn't look across the middle. It's kind of like,
what the fuck is this guy doing?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Next?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Up Max Crosby on getting fired up to play against
division rivals like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now it brings me with all what you just said,
all those techniques and and and everything, no one.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Can stop you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That all has to change, and all those schemes and
all that mindset changes when you're going against the Chiefs though,
right because rushing Patrick Mahomes has got to be it's
gotta be different.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. I mean that's the thing.
Every week is a new I know, you know how
it is.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
There's a division game though they know you, you know them,
you know what they're doing. But you also know what
the guy like him.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You can't give him a gaping lane because and then
he's gonna create. So you gotta be patient. You can't
get back past the quarterback as the worst plays to
be especially with him a tough one.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
It's a different it's a different battle. I mean, that's
the that's the thing your division guys like I see
Herbert Mahomes, all these guys over and over again, and
and you the teams, like you said, they know each
other so well, and you know that your opponent, you
know exactly what they're gonna do. But it's who's going
to be more prepared, and who had a better week
leading up to that game, who took care of their
body better. It's the littlest details I think that matter
(05:14):
in those type of matchups because you already know what the.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Hell they're gonna do.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
And you're playing a guy like Mahomes, you cannot let
him breathe, you know what I mean. You have to
be on his ass the whole time. Herbert's the same way.
You give Herbert a little bit of breathing room, he's
gonna come back and make a play. So like we
preach that all the time, and that's why we were
able to beat you know, at the end of the year,
we beat the Chargers, beat the Broncos, beat the Chiefs.
It's because we didn't let up at all, like we
were on it from the go. We got a sack,
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we got two sacks first drive, and we just kept rolling.
And that's what you know what you got to do
with those type of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now in the division, who's your guys rival? Who do
you hate the most? And is it the Chiefs because
they've just been running it for a while, or is
it who's your.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I mean, I hate them all. I will say that
I hate the chief I hate them all in different ways.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
The Chargers are like the like the Clippers when they
had Doc Rivers and Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. They're
like when their things are going well, everyone's like, oh
my god, they're gonna but they're front runners. We know
who they are. We know who they are, and I'm
gonna just be real and they know what it is.
They're front runners. So yeah, they're that Chiefs. They earned it.
(06:25):
I mean they're the best in the league. Three super Bowls.
Everybody has their own opinions. They hate certain things about
the Chiefs, but I respect the shit out of them
until we do something about it and beat them. I mean,
I gotta I gotta tip to gat to them. They're
doing it right now what I do. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's type of ship. I mean, we beat them
I beat them twice in ten times, so I can't
(06:46):
say shit about them. I mean, I respect them, though,
I definitely I love playing them. I love playing my homes.
I love playing the best. It's fucking awesome. But yeah,
we hate the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Now our buddy Matt light on playing against those Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Now, let's score the game. Is this the greatest game
of all time? Let's score it.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
That's a zero steaks?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Huh?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Not the greatest game of all time?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No way one to ten decimal was okay steaks.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Steaks point five point five? Yeah they do it too.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, I'll say a four five.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, but yeah, in a great
scheme with that mean it's Buffalo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Little brothers, you know it sucks that now we're the
little brothers and I at least when we were the
older brothers, like the big boys on the block, we
were going out beating up the other kids.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
By the way, one of the greatest Buffalo games was
we ship Low Dog down there, Lawyer Boy, and they
whoop our tail thirty one and nothing season opener. And
by the way, we shipped in there like the week
before and it was so awkward, you know how like
when that white buffalo comes in and snatches the dude,
the feeling in there is so weird, especially when it's
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one of your top guys.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And then can you explain with the white buffaloes?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, like this, there's so we always say, there's this
ben that they bring out in the locker room and
they throw all the guy's stuff and they clear out
that locker and you come in and man, that dude's
just gone the turk. Yeah. Man, and and that when
that happens to a guy like him, though, man, it
it takes a little bit. Like I like when Logan
was traded. That was weird that that had to be crazy.
(08:25):
I wasn't there for that, obviously, but you were there.
I was there.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It was crazy. I was like, what the fuck are
we doing?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And by the way, what was he thinking?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We won a super Bowl that year? I know it's
the crazy thing, but that was not a good.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Move on his part in my opinion. But whatever, what
do I know. I'm not a world record coach.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You're a world record handsome gentleman.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Let's get back to star power, you know, to.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Say that when when one to ten star power of
this game.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
I don't know four four with these numbers, it's all.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Right, I'll say sick.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
The gameplay of this game, it was a blowout.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Well, I mean from our perspective, it was pretty pretty stellar,
pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You guys ran with two hundred and fourteen yards.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Every fat man's dream, man is just to run the
ball every single play.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Rather you rather hit someone than get hit all day long?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Man back in the go forward. Give me a nine
on gameplay.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'll give it a eight one.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
What's the name? Category mean?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You gotta you gotta score the name of the game, Oh, okay,
score the name of the game, and the cultural impact
of the game.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
How much is like that has a lasting?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go nine again because I
I felt it on this game.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm gonna go seven point eight seven eight. Al right, geez,
look at these guys. The Russian We went full Russian judge.
That was before I knew it had a great name.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Dinostore for Life game.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Five point eight?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Where's that? Where does that go on?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
On the leader board?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That puts us dead last?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Just below Game two of the twenty fourteen NLD.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, so we're like that.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Let's have a whole system here.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
This is like, uh, those are all the games we've done.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
That's a lot. There's a lot of work being put
into this. I see. It's you know, you know, like
so I've never been on social media in my life. Yeah,
and so I'm a little bit of a dinosaur myself
in that respect. But you know what, here's my theory, man.
I think it's actually going to become like the cool
thing down the road, to be like retro no, yeah,
you know, I mean like bell bottoms and all this stuff.
It ends up coming cyclical, right. I think there's gonna
(10:28):
be a cachet to the people that like, I don't
know anything about this cat, like I can't find nothing.
I mean, although I've kind of shared most of my
secrets today except for one. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Next up, funniest man in the league, Rich Ornberger on
his welcome to the NFL moment.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What's you're welcome to the moment? Because I remember the
first day on rookie camp, I heard him scream something like,
you fat fuck You're gonna be bouncing around the league
for seven years woman the back of Walmart doing these
things for five because I get fired for trying to
make you riders.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
So dude, one hundred you, I mean you must have
been doing wide receiver individuals right where we were doing
center quarterback exchange. So before practice, if you were gonna
play interior offensive line at all in New England, you're
taking snaps with Dante because, like we all know, there
are games where all of a sudden, you run out
of centers. You know, you you run out of tackles.
(11:25):
Sometimes the tight end has to shift over like shit happens.
You only get whatever it is forty six active players
on a sideline, So you better be versatile. And so
he had all the interior offensive lineman taking center quarterback exchange.
He's got his hands under center. He takes snaps from us.
So tiny little Dante Scarnakia has his his tiny little
hands under my giant fat ass and he is shouting
(11:49):
out cadences and I snap a football and he swears
it was shallow, so he said you like, so I
it hits the ground. I feel it. It hits my ankle.
So I turn around and I look at him and
I was like, where did it hit you? Like I'm
like pointing to my hand, trying to find out like
what depth, and before I could finish showing him on
my hand, ask him like so where he lunges at
(12:13):
me and he grabs my face mask with two hands.
He is now doing fucking chin ups on my face
mask and screaming the most profane rant I had ever
heard in my entire life, telling me that I'm going
to be offering sex services for work, telling me that
I'm no good, that I'm dumb as shit, that life
is going to be bad for me if I don't
(12:35):
figure out how to snap footballs to him. And I
remember he is day one. This is day one. This
is day one, Day one in New England.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Day one.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We just got drafted.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Well, he kicks the fucking football and I'm staring at
it like kind of still in shock from the moment,
and he goes, now, good.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Don't just look at the football. Go fuck it, get
it and let's do this over.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
So I run over, I grab the football and I
jogg back kind of at a leisurely pace.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
He's like, okay, we're waiting on you now.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
I'm like, okay, I'm sorry, So snap the football and
I mean it was off to the races. It's like,
this is the level of accountability that happens here. There's
no time for discussing. His whole point was well founded.
I mean, in a football game, you're never going to
snap a football and if you feel it hit your ankle,
turn around and be like, was that one a little
(13:24):
too low for you? Like you're going to have to
block somebody. So he's like, if it hits the ground,
you run and you hit somebody and then figure out
if you have possession of football, Coach plays.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Over still coaching, Yeah, motherfucking but coaching hits the one.
If it's on there, your quarterbacks and I have to
get there. Yeah yeah, Oh that was my welcome down.
But there were so many.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
I'm sure you have some too, like where you see
something happen at the pro level where you're just like,
I've never seen that before. Randy Moss, our buddy, Like
you said, I remember the first day when the Vets came.
Remember that because we had our rookie camp and we
had like four days and then we were there for
a while, and then that first day when we when
you see Randy Moss and Tom Brady connected on the sideline,
(14:07):
effortless sleep.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Whole different world. It was like, oh man, that's fucking cool.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Yeah, like and that's like that's what it looked. I
guess that's what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Day one.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
You're like, Okay, well, well I'm never gonna get anywhere
near that level, but maybe I could like brush up
against the basement of that level. Maybe. But Randy Moss
I remember one time training camp practice. It was our
first training camp, and I would I started our first
training camp injured because I actually tore my hamstring during
the forty yard test and so I was on the
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training room table for like ten days before I got
back out there.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Randy.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
I remember it was a team drill. Randy was going
against like some rookie or second year corner and uh,
this guy, I guess felt like he covered him going
downfield on a play and Randy was running just you know,
fly route, go route whatever, just down the sideline and
this kid was drawn to him, and so Randy he's pointing,
(15:07):
I mean, shouting something down the field. You can't you
can't hear it. It's inaudible at first, but you just
know Randy's pissed. Yeah, So he was like, oh no,
hell no, no, no, we're gonna run that shit back.
Billy out, none of this bullshit. That's our offensive coordinator
at the time, Billy O'Brien. He was like, no, no, no,
we running that shit again, Tommy, Okay, right, yep, we're
gonna do it. We're gonna and so Randy's in control
(15:28):
now Bill steps aside. We're gonna run that play again.
So this corner knows what plays coming. He just successfully
covered Randy Moss just moments ago. But I guess he
wasn't given his one hundred percent effort. He knew what
Randy was gonna do. He blows by him and he
is five steps in front of him by the time
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they're fifteen yards down the field, and I shit you now,
Jules tom throws a perfect ball to his inside shoulder.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
He never even looks at the fucker. He just goes
like this.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
He kind of side eyes it, throws his hand out,
catches it, and then holds his hand in the air
as he's running to the end zone, talking shit the
entire time into the end zone, all the way back
to the huddle, and then he spiked it off the
corner's head. Got in the huddle, they ran the next play.
I was like, what did we just win this?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah? I remember that. That was so fund Randy didn't
even warm up with the team. No, so it used
to be offense defense. Randy would always be with v
He'd have his fucking gloves on. Member. Oh yeah, shit,
wouldn't even be tied. He'd be out there just talking
with the cold and shop bro. Randy was a man.
(16:37):
It was such a fun, fun, fun teammate and he
he would motherfuck us. But when people weren't around, he'd
always give you some knowledge. He always buddied me up,
like because I was in his room.
Speaker 9 (16:48):
Oh yeah, oh no, yeah, that must have been something, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
He would always you know, I was quiet in my
room because you know, you have Randy Moss West Welker
fucking Lewis. We just traded for Joey Galloway. Oh my god,
Joey yeah Galloway. So like I didn't say ship, but Randy,
you know, when we had to go pay for shit,
he always take care of me. Tory Holt that was
(17:12):
two years. That was the next year. Oh okay, yeah,
but I mean we were retired on the conditioning test
with the Zigs. Yeah, I'm sorry, toy, I'm sorry, but
I gotta tell the story. Yeah, no, he was, he
was awesome. We were on our conditioning test just to
come back right before. Yeah, and he was wearing remember
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those rebox zigs, Yeah, the little ziggs. Yeah, conditioning test
twenty sixties. Okay, pretty easy, it's not too bad. It's
not too for receivers. We got a run, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you guys run. We get to Rep number four, he
takes his shorts off Rep number five shirts Rep number six.
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He looks down and he says, don't do this to me, zigs,
and he walked off the field. I never saw him again.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Now we got Howie Long on his unique pregame rituals.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
When did you guys go down to the super Bowl?
How big was the super Bowl in nineteen eighty three
at this point? Was it still fucking like massive?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
To put it in perspective, Lyle and I, Lyle and
I every game we ever played together. Right after team meal,
which was eight am, you go to team meal, you know,
before the meal, you go to chapel and you know,
you do all that, and they go through special teams
and you know R one, R two, you know, you
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the personnel kind of thing, and uh, and then Lyle
and I would get in a cab and we go
to the stadium every game.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No bus.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
We never won the bus. We like to get there.
I like to get there early. Yeah, I like to
get there early. I get my I get my shorts on,
I get my you know, thing on, and I'd go
out and I'd run some forties just to kind of
get loose and stretch and come back in and I'd
go over my my formation sheets. Lyle would get fully
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dressed except for the pads, lie down on the floor
and go to sleep. And it was the it really
it said a lot about how different we were. And
he'd say to me, Hey, what's that one formation that
we can't figure out? I said, dot, you know, like
he didn't know formations. He didn't know, He just played.
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And that was a differentestween the two of us. But
we we took a cab every game, and the Super
Bowl was no different. So we go through pregame meal
and you think about nowadays, you know, and particularly after
nine to eleven, that's when it all really really changed.
Helicopters and you know, concrete pillars a block around the stadium.
(19:58):
You can't get anywhere near the stadium. So we get
into cab. We're driving to the stadium and I think
the guy spoke broken English who was in the cab
driving us, and uh we get stuck in traffic, uh,
just short of a mile from the stadium, and we're
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not we're not getting there, and Lyle's trying to get
the guy to go up on the curb and the
needles in red, you know, and I'm like, you know,
let's so we finally we get out of the cab
and we're walking through the tailgaters three quarters of a
mile through the stadium, through the parking lot with Lyle
(20:38):
Alzado in a froth. So you know, that tells you
how different it is now versus everyone knows you guys. Yeah,
I mean Lyle gus huge. Lyle at one point sparred
Muhammad Ali. I mean you know, I mean, if you're
a Washington fan, you know who I am, and you
know who he is. And you know, if you're a
(20:59):
Raider fan, you know why I mean he is. So
it's one of the two in the stadium parking lot
and to see his face as the clock was ticking down,
he's here's this card carrying bad man. You know you
(21:19):
got to kill him kind of guy, and tears are
just running down his face. I mean the journey he
had going from Denver to Cleveland over thirteen years. I
think it was twelve years, thirteen years before he got
to us and for him to finally, you know, make it.
(21:41):
And I remember Marcus, ironically enough, on the uh, the counter.
Ironically enough, the big run was off a blown counterplay.
It was a counter sixty seven and mark it got
stuffed at the point of attack. Marcus Reset comes back
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and he's blowing everyone away and you see this bullet
come from behind them. If you look at the film,
it's Cliff Branch running running close to buy him. He
you know, the gap between it was like it was
like the kid from the Seahawks last week who picked
(22:23):
the ball off one ninety two yards. Yeah, you could
see the wide receivers all kind of they're gearing it down,
but it's like a it's like.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
A a a.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Group of.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Escorts, and that's what Cliff was on Marcus's run. No,
he ends up winning the MVP.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Lyle boxed. Uh he did.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Ah what was supposed to be a charity. It was
kind of a not a real exhibition exhibition, but lot
to Lyle, it was a little more did he train, Oh,
I'm sure he did.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
How did it look?
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
This was before me, so I didn't really I've seen
footage of it, but knowing Lyle, you know, he wanted
to he wanted to land something.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It was at milehatt Stadium stadium.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Next up, Michael Bennett recounts the aftermath of Malcolm Butler's
interception in Super Bowl forty nine.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
After math was really interesting because I think that was
one of those turning points. I think if we win
that game, we probably would probably end up going to
three Super Bowls back to back.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Right.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
I think that following year is very difficult because it
was like took it took the whole season to kind
of like finally get together as one unit because everybody's
pointy fingers of whose father it was. But my my head,
it was like everybody's faulowed you lose. Honestly, this it's
just like a really unique play where it's like comes
down to it, but you know, we gave up points
on defense, offense didn't score enough for it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
We didn't do this. It's just like everybody plays a
role in it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean it's a team sport. It's that's ultimate
team sport. Eleven men have to do their job for
five seconds, and if one guy messes up, it could
be a colossal fuck up.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I'm choking Gronk on this one.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So how what what can we talk about this? How?
How did this go?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I don't know. I just just like, man, fuck, they
want you know what I'm saying, like, let's fight. You
know what I'm saying, Let's just fight, Like who wouldn't fight?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know what I'm saying, like might as well?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
At this point?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It's just it's that theory that you don't know if
you like winning more than you hate this.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
Yeah, it's just like, man, like all that have to
be here. Yeah, and I'll played really good this game,
and I was just like I was just like wanting
to like yeah, but it all turns out it is
what it is now.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Immediately after that game in locker room was here.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Like it was shocked.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Why did we not run it?
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah? I think that was what everybody was thinking.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Was that was that everyone's mind?
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Yeah, I think he still thinks I think that's when
you'll probably never say that, but I did. I bet
his head a little bit there, Like he wonders if
what happened if you just ran the ball, right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think, yeah, Well, you guys can't speak. They're down four,
so it was third down? Was it third down?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Second?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I believe second down and they have three downs at
the two.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
I went through it to fourth down and we was all, yeah,
so most likely could did two quarterback sneaks?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
That sorry that I'm thankful that they ran. Yeah, Legacy
the Mountain Rushworths defenders.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
After that one, I think they still you still got
Earl Thomas. Earl Thumbmins probably goes down as one of
the best safeties. I think it will take them a
little bit too. You know, everything that kind of happened
at the end will be shaky, But I think he
still is a Hall of Famer. I think Sharon for
short Sherman has done a great job and retirement and career,
all the things he's done is in football. Bobby for sure,
(25:56):
like kJ is really good, Cliff was great, Cam was great.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Like there's a lot of great defenders on that team.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's just the whole defense is the legion of boom.
The whole the whole defense is on the wall.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
The whole defense is on the wall. I take a
great defense to win it. Does I think, where do
we go as the best defensive history? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Where does this go in the best?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Some people say, some people say number one and number two.
Depends what you asked.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Compete with?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Eighty five Bears?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Eighty five Bears are the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Ravens two thousand Ravens.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Yeah, that's statistically we were kind of the best.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
We look at statistic wise.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
How which statistics show that.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Scoring, running, passing turn you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Like, Yeah, so now we got Cam Jordan on his
Mount Rushmore of defensive ends.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I want to know your Mount Rushmore DNS hell?
Speaker 11 (26:43):
Yeah, brother, true DNS not the edge rusher types. Yeah,
I want to start off Chris Doman Okay, Julius Peppers, Okay,
are we labeling Reggie White as a d N because
he was a three four but he's really a de tackle.
But we're gonna he was on the edge. Yeah, he
was on the edge. You can't go you know, Reggie White?
(27:04):
And then Cam Jordan, let's go LT. He's an edge LT,
not a d N d N. He's an edge rusher.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
He's t J watt Okay, he's not putting his hand
in dirt, and you're like, oh, ship, he's he's gonna
he's gonna put hands on me like the tight ends.
Speaker 11 (27:22):
Didn't fear him, you know, fear him L fear to
block him for sure in a pass rush see LT. Yeah, yeah,
a duo.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Going his way? You know what? You know what's fucking
crazy when you just said that a duo coming his way.
We got the duo our defense. I don't know, I
forget what year it was in like eighteen. We had
a good defense and they they were getting the duo
coming at him. It was regular day, yeah, and we
got blown up. And you know how you're supposed to
(27:51):
take him out, so you force it inside the duo.
Fucking build threw on LT clips and he goes this
shut you fucking do it, And he'd show LT blowing
up the duo and making the fucking play. But it's
funny how you said that crazy. No, Yeah, that's I
like that. That's a fucking that's an insane Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Now, had you just left an edge, then we'd open
it up to the von Miller's the LT.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, I like that you have a difference. Yeah, I
like that.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's nuances to this.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
That's like, that's like that's like naming, Like you know,
a slot receiver and they're like, oh, but what about him,
But he's a he's he's an x r Z or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It is a lot of people think I'm a slot receiver,
but I did have most more catches on the outside. Hmmmm.
We love nuance here in the house. Yeah, you know,
it's made a lot of hay in the slot.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Next Richie and Cognito tells us what he really thinks
about NFL referees.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And then uh, yeah, the chop block panety.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
That was unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I had gotten away with one and I thought I
could go back to it, and they got my ass.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
For you, what was your relationship with the rest? Did
you ever butter them up?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Fuck the rest?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Suck all the rests fuck them all there. You know
my thing with the refs are it's just it's just
so uneven. It's just so uneven the enforcement of penalty.
And this isn't against me, this is in the game.
It's so uneven of the enforcement of the penalties, and
it comes down to a critical juncture in the game,
and these guys haven't thrown flags for four quarters and
now they want to get the flags out. Now they
want to decide the game. And it's like, you know,
(29:20):
I mean, I would just love to see all the.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Game consistently at the beginning that you're gonna call the end.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
If you're gonna throw flags for p I throw them
in the first quarter, throw them in the fourth quarter.
I can handle that. But if you're gonna go throughout
the whole gaming, you're not. You're gonna let this little
tiki tax stuff go. And then in the fourth quarter
it happens and you throw a flag. It's like, it's uneven.
I just want I want what's fair. And you've been
a part of games where you just get fucked by
the refs and you take all the evidence and you
turn into the NFL and the NFL comes back the
(29:45):
next week and they're like, yeah, that was a bad call.
They shouldn't have called that, or maybe they should have
called through a flag here, and you're like, dude, our
whole season depends on that.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And this asshole who wants to come talk to me before.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Game, Hey, what's up? Bud, how you fuck you? Man?
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Like?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I mean, I I that's the that's the one thing
that pisses me off about refs, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Not doing their job. Everyone else out there doing their
Did you have any good any one ref that you liked?
None of them or all of them are it's they're
all bad?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Fuck them all. I mean I liked a couple of them.
I I talk, I would talk with a couple of
them before the game. But as soon as that ball
was snapped in the first cord, They're on me.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Hey jar no, no, no pushing and shoving out doing
that right.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I'd be like, throw the flag or shut the fuck up, man,
Just what. I'm not out here.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
To talk to you, that's right. I'm not out here
to talk to you. I don't want to be buddy
buddy with you.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Like if you if you see it, you warn me
and then you throw the flag and then we'll move on.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Fair enough, baby, do businesses? Business is being done, right, Jewels, Yeah, businesses,
that's what Bill would say. Now, fellas, we got to
see how the refs are gonna call it, and here
you do business as business is being done. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
Remember tune in every Tuesday for a brand new episode,
and every Sunday for another.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Games with Names Highlight Year
Welcome to Games of Names. I'm Julie Entelman, and we
got a brand new compilation highlight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Reels starting now now Andrew Whitworth breaking down the Rams
game winning drive in Super Bowl fifty six.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
That drive though, with Stafford and cup Man unfreaking believable
that you found your guy. They meet every morning at
five am on Wednesdays, and it came to life right
there talking about process over results.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Baby, Now, how was how was matt right before that drive?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Was he?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
What was his temper?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How you know thing I'm gonna do? Just I mean,
not that you're scared of Matthew. He's real sensitive about
matt so we call him Matthew.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
He's like McConaughey, is the same way Kelly's gonna she's
gonna post answer. I'm just telling you, I like gonna get.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You on Insta. If you don't, you gotta call him Matthew.
I'm sorry, Matthew.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Matthew.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Very serious but still honestly, So, how was Maddie before that? Hey,
you're like me, I'm calling mathe rest of the day. No, anyway,
So no, you know what's wild is like when people
talk about the game right, like that's the things I
actually remember.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
It's like him walking in the huddle.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So you know, if people don't realize this, the quarterbacks
always on the side of the team like, so you know,
he's communicating the coach all those things. So obviously our
sideline is away from me, being the left tackle, and
so Matthew's over on that side until we're looking dead
into each other every time he's getting the call from Sean.
I and kind of see Sean in the background making
the calls, and I see Matthew like looking up at us,
and I never him getting in the uddle, and he
was like, hey man, let's let's go do something special
(01:34):
right here, you know, And there was just a look
in his eye Like I always said this, like Matthew
to me is like John Wayne, Like he just like
he's like this cowboy bad dude in the sense of
he's not a cowboy type guy, but he's just a
tough never hurt, never says a word like it's hit
you can literally like oh like nothing, won't say a
word like not blaming anybody, never tell you a thing
(01:56):
like they're draining his knee, his hip, whatever, Like he
doesn't care, like is just tough and that's who he is.
And so you're just like in the huddle, it's like,
let's go do something special.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Boys.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, it's like yes, sir, you know, like nobody's
touching you think of a necessary roughness if you will
the movie, like nobody's gonna touch you. You know, like
that's literally how you felt with Matthew Stafford in the huddle,
and you know that drive obviously him and Cup really
special and every play, you know, it's like that.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
You know, I look on the screen, it's like, hell.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Eas man, it's fifteen play drivet Gosh, it felt like
four months.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It literally like every we're like, oh we found a
first down. Oh we found a first down. Let's keep going,
Let's keep going, Let's keep going.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Uh So it was.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It was a wild, wild deal, but I think really special,
you know, you always think those things in the way
they end to have, those two guys, the relationship they formed,
the bond and commitment they made to meet every single morning.
We also that season had what we called the Breakfast Club.
Meet Stafford and Cup and our wives would meet every
single Tuesday morning for breakfast that whole entire season at
SOHO and uh soho soho and Malibu.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We met every week.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
They'd have it like they were all ready for us
every Tuesday morning, and it really became a great bonding
experience for us. And we even did it the week
of the super Bowl. And the roughest one was the
Tuesday after the super Bowl when we haven't none of
us have slept it all. But it was like, hey,
let's have one more and we met that morning and
it was like, dude, what a journey this whole year
we won a super Bowl. Now here we are sitting
here having breakfast again. It was a special year, you
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know what.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And that last drive pretty much summed up that team.
Fifteen plays, you know, executing and got to have its situations,
key third downs, your go to players, making go to plays.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
One of the best, not Loooks ever but not the
I mean he invented it, you know, Patrick said this,
like I know the people, but like Mahmes has actually said,
like I grew up watching Stafford like throw thee like
he is the I know nobody like talks about that
much like he is the guy who like we invented
that for a long time, well, Joe, Joe used to.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Do it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, a flat, a little a little flat.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But you know he kind of took it a little
crazy a couple times a year across the damn middle.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No one doesn't look across the middle. It's kind of like,
what the fuck is this guy doing?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Next?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Up Max Crosby on getting fired up to play against
division rivals like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now it brings me with all what you just said,
all those techniques and and and everything, no one.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Can stop you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That all has to change, and all those schemes and
all that mindset changes when you're going against the Chiefs though,
right because rushing Patrick Mahomes has got to be it's
gotta be different.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. I mean that's the thing.
Every week is a new I know, you know how
it is.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
There's a division game though they know you, you know them,
you know what they're doing. But you also know what
the guy like him.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You can't give him a gaping lane because and then
he's gonna create. So you gotta be patient. You can't
get back past the quarterback as the worst plays to
be especially with him a tough one.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
It's a different it's a different battle. I mean, that's
the that's the thing your division guys like I see
Herbert Mahomes, all these guys over and over again, and
and you the teams, like you said, they know each
other so well, and you know that your opponent, you
know exactly what they're gonna do. But it's who's going
to be more prepared, and who had a better week
leading up to that game, who took care of their
body better. It's the littlest details I think that matter
(05:14):
in those type of matchups because you already know what the.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Hell they're gonna do.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
And you're playing a guy like Mahomes, you cannot let
him breathe, you know what I mean. You have to
be on his ass the whole time. Herbert's the same way.
You give Herbert a little bit of breathing room, he's
gonna come back and make a play. So like we
preach that all the time, and that's why we were
able to beat you know, at the end of the year,
we beat the Chargers, beat the Broncos, beat the Chiefs.
It's because we didn't let up at all, like we
were on it from the go. We got a sack,
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we got two sacks first drive, and we just kept rolling.
And that's what you know what you got to do
with those type of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now in the division, who's your guys rival? Who do
you hate the most? And is it the Chiefs because
they've just been running it for a while, or is
it who's your.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I mean, I hate them all. I will say that
I hate the chief I hate them all in different ways.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
The Chargers are like the like the Clippers when they
had Doc Rivers and Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. They're
like when their things are going well, everyone's like, oh
my god, they're gonna but they're front runners. We know
who they are. We know who they are, and I'm
gonna just be real and they know what it is.
They're front runners. So yeah, they're that Chiefs. They earned it.
(06:25):
I mean they're the best in the league. Three super Bowls.
Everybody has their own opinions. They hate certain things about
the Chiefs, but I respect the shit out of them
until we do something about it and beat them. I mean,
I gotta I gotta tip to gat to them. They're
doing it right now what I do. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's type of ship. I mean, we beat them
I beat them twice in ten times, so I can't
(06:46):
say shit about them. I mean, I respect them, though,
I definitely I love playing them. I love playing my homes.
I love playing the best. It's fucking awesome. But yeah,
we hate the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Now our buddy Matt light on playing against those Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Now, let's score the game. Is this the greatest game
of all time? Let's score it.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
That's a zero steaks?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Huh?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Not the greatest game of all time?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No way one to ten decimal was okay steaks.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Steaks point five point five? Yeah they do it too.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, I'll say a four five.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, but yeah, in a great
scheme with that mean it's Buffalo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Little brothers, you know it sucks that now we're the
little brothers and I at least when we were the
older brothers, like the big boys on the block, we
were going out beating up the other kids.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
By the way, one of the greatest Buffalo games was
we ship Low Dog down there, Lawyer Boy, and they
whoop our tail thirty one and nothing season opener. And
by the way, we shipped in there like the week
before and it was so awkward, you know how like
when that white buffalo comes in and snatches the dude,
the feeling in there is so weird, especially when it's
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one of your top guys.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And then can you explain with the white buffaloes?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, like this, there's so we always say, there's this
ben that they bring out in the locker room and
they throw all the guy's stuff and they clear out
that locker and you come in and man, that dude's
just gone the turk. Yeah. Man, and and that when
that happens to a guy like him, though, man, it
it takes a little bit. Like I like when Logan
was traded. That was weird that that had to be crazy.
(08:25):
I wasn't there for that, obviously, but you were there.
I was there.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It was crazy. I was like, what the fuck are
we doing?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And by the way, what was he thinking?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We won a super Bowl that year? I know it's
the crazy thing, but that was not a good.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Move on his part in my opinion. But whatever, what
do I know. I'm not a world record coach.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You're a world record handsome gentleman.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Let's get back to star power, you know, to.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Say that when when one to ten star power of
this game.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
I don't know four four with these numbers, it's all.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Right, I'll say sick.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
The gameplay of this game, it was a blowout.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Well, I mean from our perspective, it was pretty pretty stellar,
pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You guys ran with two hundred and fourteen yards.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Every fat man's dream, man is just to run the
ball every single play.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Rather you rather hit someone than get hit all day long?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Man back in the go forward. Give me a nine
on gameplay.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'll give it a eight one.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
What's the name? Category mean?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You gotta you gotta score the name of the game, Oh, okay,
score the name of the game, and the cultural impact
of the game.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
How much is like that has a lasting?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go nine again because I
I felt it on this game.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm gonna go seven point eight seven eight. Al right, geez,
look at these guys. The Russian We went full Russian judge.
That was before I knew it had a great name.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Dinostore for Life game.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Five point eight?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Where's that? Where does that go on?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
On the leader board?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That puts us dead last?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Just below Game two of the twenty fourteen NLD.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, so we're like that.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Let's have a whole system here.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
This is like, uh, those are all the games we've done.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
That's a lot. There's a lot of work being put
into this. I see. It's you know, you know, like
so I've never been on social media in my life. Yeah,
and so I'm a little bit of a dinosaur myself
in that respect. But you know what, here's my theory, man.
I think it's actually going to become like the cool
thing down the road, to be like retro no, yeah,
you know, I mean like bell bottoms and all this stuff.
It ends up coming cyclical, right. I think there's gonna
(10:28):
be a cachet to the people that like, I don't
know anything about this cat, like I can't find nothing.
I mean, although I've kind of shared most of my
secrets today except for one. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Next up, funniest man in the league, Rich Ornberger on
his welcome to the NFL moment.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What's you're welcome to the moment? Because I remember the
first day on rookie camp, I heard him scream something like,
you fat fuck You're gonna be bouncing around the league
for seven years woman the back of Walmart doing these
things for five because I get fired for trying to
make you riders.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
So dude, one hundred you, I mean you must have
been doing wide receiver individuals right where we were doing
center quarterback exchange. So before practice, if you were gonna
play interior offensive line at all in New England, you're
taking snaps with Dante because, like we all know, there
are games where all of a sudden, you run out
of centers. You know, you you run out of tackles.
(11:25):
Sometimes the tight end has to shift over like shit happens.
You only get whatever it is forty six active players
on a sideline, So you better be versatile. And so
he had all the interior offensive lineman taking center quarterback exchange.
He's got his hands under center. He takes snaps from us.
So tiny little Dante Scarnakia has his his tiny little
hands under my giant fat ass and he is shouting
(11:49):
out cadences and I snap a football and he swears
it was shallow, so he said you like, so I
it hits the ground. I feel it. It hits my ankle.
So I turn around and I look at him and
I was like, where did it hit you? Like I'm
like pointing to my hand, trying to find out like
what depth, and before I could finish showing him on
my hand, ask him like so where he lunges at
(12:13):
me and he grabs my face mask with two hands.
He is now doing fucking chin ups on my face
mask and screaming the most profane rant I had ever
heard in my entire life, telling me that I'm going
to be offering sex services for work, telling me that
I'm no good, that I'm dumb as shit, that life
is going to be bad for me if I don't
(12:35):
figure out how to snap footballs to him. And I
remember he is day one. This is day one. This
is day one, Day one in New England.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Day one.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We just got drafted.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Well, he kicks the fucking football and I'm staring at
it like kind of still in shock from the moment,
and he goes, now, good.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Don't just look at the football. Go fuck it, get
it and let's do this over.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
So I run over, I grab the football and I
jogg back kind of at a leisurely pace.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
He's like, okay, we're waiting on you now.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
I'm like, okay, I'm sorry, So snap the football and
I mean it was off to the races. It's like,
this is the level of accountability that happens here. There's
no time for discussing. His whole point was well founded.
I mean, in a football game, you're never going to
snap a football and if you feel it hit your ankle,
turn around and be like, was that one a little
(13:24):
too low for you? Like you're going to have to
block somebody. So he's like, if it hits the ground,
you run and you hit somebody and then figure out
if you have possession of football, Coach plays.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Over still coaching, Yeah, motherfucking but coaching hits the one.
If it's on there, your quarterbacks and I have to
get there. Yeah yeah, Oh that was my welcome down.
But there were so many.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
I'm sure you have some too, like where you see
something happen at the pro level where you're just like,
I've never seen that before. Randy Moss, our buddy, Like
you said, I remember the first day when the Vets came.
Remember that because we had our rookie camp and we
had like four days and then we were there for
a while, and then that first day when we when
you see Randy Moss and Tom Brady connected on the sideline,
(14:07):
effortless sleep.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Whole different world. It was like, oh man, that's fucking cool.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Yeah, like and that's like that's what it looked. I
guess that's what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Day one.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
You're like, Okay, well, well I'm never gonna get anywhere
near that level, but maybe I could like brush up
against the basement of that level. Maybe. But Randy Moss
I remember one time training camp practice. It was our
first training camp, and I would I started our first
training camp injured because I actually tore my hamstring during
the forty yard test and so I was on the
(14:39):
training room table for like ten days before I got
back out there.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Randy.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
I remember it was a team drill. Randy was going
against like some rookie or second year corner and uh,
this guy, I guess felt like he covered him going
downfield on a play and Randy was running just you know,
fly route, go route whatever, just down the sideline and
this kid was drawn to him, and so Randy he's pointing,
(15:07):
I mean, shouting something down the field. You can't you
can't hear it. It's inaudible at first, but you just
know Randy's pissed. Yeah, So he was like, oh no,
hell no, no, no, we're gonna run that shit back.
Billy out, none of this bullshit. That's our offensive coordinator
at the time, Billy O'Brien. He was like, no, no, no,
we running that shit again, Tommy, Okay, right, yep, we're
gonna do it. We're gonna and so Randy's in control
(15:28):
now Bill steps aside. We're gonna run that play again.
So this corner knows what plays coming. He just successfully
covered Randy Moss just moments ago. But I guess he
wasn't given his one hundred percent effort. He knew what
Randy was gonna do. He blows by him and he
is five steps in front of him by the time
(15:48):
they're fifteen yards down the field, and I shit you now,
Jules tom throws a perfect ball to his inside shoulder.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
He never even looks at the fucker. He just goes
like this.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
He kind of side eyes it, throws his hand out,
catches it, and then holds his hand in the air
as he's running to the end zone, talking shit the
entire time into the end zone, all the way back
to the huddle, and then he spiked it off the
corner's head. Got in the huddle, they ran the next play.
I was like, what did we just win this?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah? I remember that. That was so fund Randy didn't
even warm up with the team. No, so it used
to be offense defense. Randy would always be with v
He'd have his fucking gloves on. Member. Oh yeah, shit,
wouldn't even be tied. He'd be out there just talking
with the cold and shop bro. Randy was a man.
(16:37):
It was such a fun, fun, fun teammate and he
he would motherfuck us. But when people weren't around, he'd
always give you some knowledge. He always buddied me up,
like because I was in his room.
Speaker 9 (16:48):
Oh yeah, oh no, yeah, that must have been something, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
He would always you know, I was quiet in my
room because you know, you have Randy Moss West Welker
fucking Lewis. We just traded for Joey Galloway. Oh my god,
Joey yeah Galloway. So like I didn't say ship, but Randy,
you know, when we had to go pay for shit,
he always take care of me. Tory Holt that was
(17:12):
two years. That was the next year. Oh okay, yeah,
but I mean we were retired on the conditioning test
with the Zigs. Yeah, I'm sorry, toy, I'm sorry, but
I gotta tell the story. Yeah, no, he was, he
was awesome. We were on our conditioning test just to
come back right before. Yeah, and he was wearing remember
(17:34):
those rebox zigs, Yeah, the little ziggs. Yeah, conditioning test
twenty sixties. Okay, pretty easy, it's not too bad. It's
not too for receivers. We got a run, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you guys run. We get to Rep number four, he
takes his shorts off Rep number five shirts Rep number six.
(17:59):
He looks down and he says, don't do this to me, zigs,
and he walked off the field. I never saw him again.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Now we got Howie Long on his unique pregame rituals.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
When did you guys go down to the super Bowl?
How big was the super Bowl in nineteen eighty three
at this point? Was it still fucking like massive?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
To put it in perspective, Lyle and I, Lyle and
I every game we ever played together. Right after team meal,
which was eight am, you go to team meal, you know,
before the meal, you go to chapel and you know,
you do all that, and they go through special teams
and you know R one, R two, you know, you
(18:39):
the personnel kind of thing, and uh, and then Lyle
and I would get in a cab and we go
to the stadium every game.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No bus.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
We never won the bus. We like to get there.
I like to get there early. Yeah, I like to
get there early. I get my I get my shorts on,
I get my you know, thing on, and I'd go
out and I'd run some forties just to kind of
get loose and stretch and come back in and I'd
go over my my formation sheets. Lyle would get fully
(19:11):
dressed except for the pads, lie down on the floor
and go to sleep. And it was the it really
it said a lot about how different we were. And
he'd say to me, Hey, what's that one formation that
we can't figure out? I said, dot, you know, like
he didn't know formations. He didn't know, He just played.
(19:33):
And that was a differentestween the two of us. But
we we took a cab every game, and the Super
Bowl was no different. So we go through pregame meal
and you think about nowadays, you know, and particularly after
nine to eleven, that's when it all really really changed.
Helicopters and you know, concrete pillars a block around the stadium.
(19:58):
You can't get anywhere near the stadium. So we get
into cab. We're driving to the stadium and I think
the guy spoke broken English who was in the cab
driving us, and uh we get stuck in traffic, uh,
just short of a mile from the stadium, and we're
(20:18):
not we're not getting there, and Lyle's trying to get
the guy to go up on the curb and the
needles in red, you know, and I'm like, you know,
let's so we finally we get out of the cab
and we're walking through the tailgaters three quarters of a
mile through the stadium, through the parking lot with Lyle
(20:38):
Alzado in a froth. So you know, that tells you
how different it is now versus everyone knows you guys. Yeah,
I mean Lyle gus huge. Lyle at one point sparred
Muhammad Ali. I mean you know, I mean, if you're
a Washington fan, you know who I am, and you
know who he is. And you know, if you're a
(20:59):
Raider fan, you know why I mean he is. So
it's one of the two in the stadium parking lot
and to see his face as the clock was ticking down,
he's here's this card carrying bad man. You know you
(21:19):
got to kill him kind of guy, and tears are
just running down his face. I mean the journey he
had going from Denver to Cleveland over thirteen years. I
think it was twelve years, thirteen years before he got
to us and for him to finally, you know, make it.
(21:41):
And I remember Marcus, ironically enough, on the uh, the counter.
Ironically enough, the big run was off a blown counterplay.
It was a counter sixty seven and mark it got
stuffed at the point of attack. Marcus Reset comes back
(22:02):
and he's blowing everyone away and you see this bullet
come from behind them. If you look at the film,
it's Cliff Branch running running close to buy him. He
you know, the gap between it was like it was
like the kid from the Seahawks last week who picked
(22:23):
the ball off one ninety two yards. Yeah, you could
see the wide receivers all kind of they're gearing it down,
but it's like a it's like.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
A a a.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Group of.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Escorts, and that's what Cliff was on Marcus's run. No,
he ends up winning the MVP.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Lyle boxed. Uh he did.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Ah what was supposed to be a charity. It was
kind of a not a real exhibition exhibition, but lot
to Lyle, it was a little more did he train, Oh,
I'm sure he did.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
How did it look?
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
This was before me, so I didn't really I've seen
footage of it, but knowing Lyle, you know, he wanted
to he wanted to land something.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It was at milehatt Stadium stadium.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Next up, Michael Bennett recounts the aftermath of Malcolm Butler's
interception in Super Bowl forty nine.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
After math was really interesting because I think that was
one of those turning points. I think if we win
that game, we probably would probably end up going to
three Super Bowls back to back.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Right.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
I think that following year is very difficult because it
was like took it took the whole season to kind
of like finally get together as one unit because everybody's
pointy fingers of whose father it was. But my my head,
it was like everybody's faulowed you lose. Honestly, this it's
just like a really unique play where it's like comes
down to it, but you know, we gave up points
on defense, offense didn't score enough for it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
We didn't do this. It's just like everybody plays a
role in it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean it's a team sport. It's that's ultimate
team sport. Eleven men have to do their job for
five seconds, and if one guy messes up, it could
be a colossal fuck up.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I'm choking Gronk on this one.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So how what what can we talk about this? How?
How did this go?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I don't know. I just just like, man, fuck, they
want you know what I'm saying, like, let's fight. You
know what I'm saying, Let's just fight, Like who wouldn't fight?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know what I'm saying, like might as well?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
At this point?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It's just it's that theory that you don't know if
you like winning more than you hate this.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
Yeah, it's just like, man, like all that have to
be here. Yeah, and I'll played really good this game,
and I was just like I was just like wanting
to like yeah, but it all turns out it is
what it is now.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Immediately after that game in locker room was here.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Like it was shocked.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Why did we not run it?
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah? I think that was what everybody was thinking.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Was that was that everyone's mind?
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Yeah, I think he still thinks I think that's when
you'll probably never say that, but I did. I bet
his head a little bit there, Like he wonders if
what happened if you just ran the ball, right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think, yeah, Well, you guys can't speak. They're down four,
so it was third down? Was it third down?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Second?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I believe second down and they have three downs at
the two.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
I went through it to fourth down and we was all, yeah,
so most likely could did two quarterback sneaks?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
That sorry that I'm thankful that they ran. Yeah, Legacy
the Mountain Rushworths defenders.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
After that one, I think they still you still got
Earl Thomas. Earl Thumbmins probably goes down as one of
the best safeties. I think it will take them a
little bit too. You know, everything that kind of happened
at the end will be shaky, But I think he
still is a Hall of Famer. I think Sharon for
short Sherman has done a great job and retirement and career,
all the things he's done is in football. Bobby for sure,
(25:56):
like kJ is really good, Cliff was great, Cam was great.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Like there's a lot of great defenders on that team.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's just the whole defense is the legion of boom.
The whole the whole defense is on the wall.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
The whole defense is on the wall. I take a
great defense to win it. Does I think, where do
we go as the best defensive history? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Where does this go in the best?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Some people say, some people say number one and number two.
Depends what you asked.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Compete with?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Eighty five Bears?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Eighty five Bears are the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Ravens two thousand Ravens.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Yeah, that's statistically we were kind of the best.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
We look at statistic wise.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
How which statistics show that.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Scoring, running, passing turn you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Like, Yeah, so now we got Cam Jordan on his
Mount Rushmore of defensive ends.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I want to know your Mount Rushmore DNS hell?
Speaker 11 (26:43):
Yeah, brother, true DNS not the edge rusher types. Yeah,
I want to start off Chris Doman Okay, Julius Peppers, Okay,
are we labeling Reggie White as a d N because
he was a three four but he's really a de tackle.
But we're gonna he was on the edge. Yeah, he
was on the edge. You can't go you know, Reggie White?
(27:04):
And then Cam Jordan, let's go LT. He's an edge LT,
not a d N d N. He's an edge rusher.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
He's t J watt Okay, he's not putting his hand
in dirt, and you're like, oh, ship, he's he's gonna
he's gonna put hands on me like the tight ends.
Speaker 11 (27:22):
Didn't fear him, you know, fear him L fear to
block him for sure in a pass rush see LT. Yeah, yeah,
a duo.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Going his way? You know what? You know what's fucking
crazy when you just said that a duo coming his way.
We got the duo our defense. I don't know, I
forget what year it was in like eighteen. We had
a good defense and they they were getting the duo
coming at him. It was regular day, yeah, and we
got blown up. And you know how you're supposed to
(27:51):
take him out, so you force it inside the duo.
Fucking build threw on LT clips and he goes this
shut you fucking do it, And he'd show LT blowing
up the duo and making the fucking play. But it's
funny how you said that crazy. No, Yeah, that's I
like that. That's a fucking that's an insane Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Now, had you just left an edge, then we'd open
it up to the von Miller's the LT.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, I like that you have a difference. Yeah, I
like that.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's nuances to this.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
That's like, that's like that's like naming, Like you know,
a slot receiver and they're like, oh, but what about him,
But he's a he's he's an x r Z or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It is a lot of people think I'm a slot receiver,
but I did have most more catches on the outside. Hmmmm.
We love nuance here in the house. Yeah, you know,
it's made a lot of hay in the slot.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Next Richie and Cognito tells us what he really thinks
about NFL referees.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And then uh, yeah, the chop block panety.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
That was unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I had gotten away with one and I thought I
could go back to it, and they got my ass.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
For you, what was your relationship with the rest? Did
you ever butter them up?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Fuck the rest?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Suck all the rests fuck them all there. You know
my thing with the refs are it's just it's just
so uneven. It's just so uneven the enforcement of penalty.
And this isn't against me, this is in the game.
It's so uneven of the enforcement of the penalties, and
it comes down to a critical juncture in the game,
and these guys haven't thrown flags for four quarters and
now they want to get the flags out. Now they
want to decide the game. And it's like, you know,
(29:20):
I mean, I would just love to see all the.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Game consistently at the beginning that you're gonna call the end.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
If you're gonna throw flags for p I throw them
in the first quarter, throw them in the fourth quarter.
I can handle that. But if you're gonna go throughout
the whole gaming, you're not. You're gonna let this little
tiki tax stuff go. And then in the fourth quarter
it happens and you throw a flag. It's like, it's uneven.
I just want I want what's fair. And you've been
a part of games where you just get fucked by
the refs and you take all the evidence and you
turn into the NFL and the NFL comes back the
(29:45):
next week and they're like, yeah, that was a bad call.
They shouldn't have called that, or maybe they should have
called through a flag here, and you're like, dude, our
whole season depends on that.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And this asshole who wants to come talk to me before.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Game, Hey, what's up? Bud, how you fuck you? Man?
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Like?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I mean, I I that's the that's the one thing
that pisses me off about refs, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Not doing their job. Everyone else out there doing their
Did you have any good any one ref that you liked?
None of them or all of them are it's they're
all bad?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Fuck them all. I mean I liked a couple of them.
I I talk, I would talk with a couple of
them before the game. But as soon as that ball
was snapped in the first cord, They're on me.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Hey jar no, no, no pushing and shoving out doing
that right.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I'd be like, throw the flag or shut the fuck up, man,
Just what. I'm not out here.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
To talk to you, that's right. I'm not out here
to talk to you. I don't want to be buddy
buddy with you.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Like if you if you see it, you warn me
and then you throw the flag and then we'll move on.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Fair enough, baby, do businesses? Business is being done, right, Jewels, Yeah, businesses,
that's what Bill would say. Now, fellas, we got to
see how the refs are gonna call it, and here
you do business as business is being done. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
Remember tune in every Tuesday for a brand new episode,
and every Sunday for another.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
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