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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're bringing you another compilation of some of my favorite stories.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
From games with names.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Let's go now, Rob Gronkowski on the partying days while
playing for the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
We partied so high back in the day though too,
Like remember us on that golf cart and where and
nan Tucket.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
Well gow for Gowie weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
We got in so much trouble though for that because yes,
you had a surgery.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I think it was my forearm and no was it?
And then I had a foot. We were both getting pulled.
We were in the back of it was we.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Were in the back of a golf cart and people
were filming us. And then we waged so much and
I think the people in the front got off the
golf cart and when they got off the golf cart,
the front two wheels went up in the air and
we fell right onto the ground and like face planted.
And the crazy thing about it is we had no
clue that we even did that until we saw the

(01:00):
on barstool four days later and the caption of barstool
was not really sure. We want our star wide receiver
and tight end acting like this and for GOLLI but
we love them for it.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yeah, And I was like That's why I love Barstool.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
They're sticking up for us.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Bro. You remember how mad Bill was. Oh man, you
fucking assholes. Kid Like Jesus Christ, you guys just stay
out of the headlines, hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
You guys aren't even in practicing right now. You can't
even go on the field, and you're acting like drunk
idiots at for GOLLI of course we are.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
We're young and dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I would not change a thing, Bro. Imagine if we
didn't do that now, and we try to do it,
and we try to do it now, it would be
hard to do it now. We did it when we could.
That's the best part about it. We did it when
we could.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
That was such a fun trip. That's iget on the trip.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Next up, Matt Light's a hilarious email from Bill Belichick.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
The most treasured thing that I own in my life
is an email exchange between Bill Belichick and I. You
ever get an email from Bill Belichick ever in your
history of text message? Okay, but never an email. I've
never spoken to anybody that I've ever played with, or
it came after me or before me that's ever received
an email like Bill doesn't do human stuff right, Like

(02:17):
that's like a that's like a like a human thing
to do, like send an email. I got an email.
What was his email saying? So I was a rep?
Right and I was in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
The way let me let me paint the picture for
everyone out there. Light was a rep, a union rep.
And Bill took all the everything out on the reps
because they represented the union. And he hated like the
time limits, like you guys, figure it.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Out, what this fucking shit? And he couldn't do anything
to us because he had vrabel on myself. But I
get home from Hawaii, long ass flight Hawaii. It was
the union meeting were there, and so I was the
guy that literally got him changed. I passed the resolution
saying if I want to go to Hawaii, I go

(03:08):
to Hawaii. I don't want to fly all the way Hawaii.
Why don't we do this in the States. We got
all these you know, and dude, I think half the
island wanted to kill me because that was a big revenue.
But anyway, noither here or there. I get home and
this is like way before you know, we live in
this crazy time now where like we think it's always
been the way it is I mean back up ten
years ago. Man, I wasn't checking emails from my cell phone.

(03:29):
I hadn't make sense. Yeah, but you've got somebody that will.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I never know what she's doing that, what is she doing?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
What does she do?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
So I get home, I got Jay, I've got whatever
it is, like Microsoft, whatever, and I get on my
thing and I'm checking my emails and there's an email
in my inbox Belichick Commo Bill and I'm thinking to myself,
you know what I thought immediately, Thank God, finally one
of my offensive linemen is busting my bass. All the
stuff I've done and nobody's really come at me. And

(04:05):
then when I read it, I was like, coping, you
son of a gun, because he's the only one smart
enough at the time that would have done this. So
I spend all night like I got home at like,
let's say, ten thirty, and I missed the whole first
week of the offseason program because because I was at
the meetings, I had to go. So the next the
next day was Monday, so I'm gonna be jumping in

(04:26):
a week late, and I'm staying up till like one
thirty in the morning, and I finally find a service
where I can send an email and make it look
like it came from someone else, and I know this
is how Copin did it, So I write one to Copin.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
You spent six hours trying forever, dude, forever.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
But by by the way, you know how it is.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Man.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
You find one and it says it works, and you
test it and it doesn't work. You have to pay
for something. I'm like, this is stupid. Anyway, I found one,
sent Coping an email walking the next morning, and I'm
ready to go toe to toe, but you know, I'm
never gonna mid the shit. So when I walk past Copin,
immediately he's like, you send me an email, didn't you?
I'm like, did you send me an email? I'm like,
what are you talking about? And he's like, you know
what I'm talking about. I'm like, no, I don't know

(05:04):
what you're talking about. Because he has to admit first
what he did, and then oh, okay, let's talk about it
because that was pretty good. Cope, that's pretty good. We
go in, we get our workout done, he doesn't bring
it up anymore, and then he comes back to me
right when we get done working out, and he's like, hey,
you did send me an email. I'm like, no, I
didn't send you an email. He's like, well, that's great
because somebody send me an email and it looks like
something you would do. And I'm like, all right, well,

(05:25):
if I get an email that looks like some of
you do, I'll let you know, right. And now as
I'm walking out, we get done running right, and I'm
walking out for the day, I can't shake it. I'm like,
he's not messing around. So I see Bears and I
walk in his office and I'm like, hey, man, cause
if it wasn't Coping, there's no one else smart enough,
Bears must have sent it from Bill's email on behalf
of someone else. And the minute I say some of

(05:48):
the Bears, He's like, oh no, Bill, send you an email.
I'm like, come on, man, not my first rodeo, right.
He literally gets up, goes into Bill's office he's in
the staff meeting, gets his computer fire up, and shows
me in his outlook on the scent box the email
to me and it's the it's the email. And I'm
like like, immediately, I'm like, oh man, damn. Like that

(06:11):
goes up a notch. Right, I'll read it for you.
It's literally my prized possession. Yeah. Like, so I get
this and now I'm like, oh, this is legit. So
I take like four or five days because you know me,
I can't like not acknowledge this. I have to have
some kind of a response. So I send my response

(06:32):
and immediately I get one back. And the essence of
what he sent back was We're never going to do
this again. Number one because in the in the subject
heading it was concluding remarks, right, no joke, no joke,
use that concluding remarks and and and to this day,
and what he wrote in there, I'm telling you this,
I could lose everything every Super Bowl ring. I could

(06:53):
care less. Man, possessions like that mean nothing to me.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
This you got to read it, read it.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Or man, text me, and I got big fat fingers.
So we've never had a conversation. Bill Belichick and I
had never once spoken about this ever. So by way,
I never break this out. It's one of these things
that he kind of has to be in person, right, Okay,
So here we go, here we go, all right, So
just so you can see this, Saturday, April seventh, two

(07:21):
thousand and seven, at two thirty four pm. Okay, so
this is in undefeated season, yeah, going into it? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
well that's here, yeah, greed in the subject heading Greetings
from the nep Off season Program. Exclamation point all right,
oh okay, here we go. End quotes this how it starts,

(07:41):
Not like hey, Matt, or just wanted to touch base
with you, sir. It's a chance for us all to
bond and start putting the wheels in motion for the
following season. Left tackle Matt Light said in a recent interview,
the foundation is put in place at this time of year.
What you do in March, April, May and June, what's
you do in that mini camp in the passing camp.
It has a direct effect on the beginning of your season,
and you have come out of the gate swinging pretty hard.
That's what we've been able to do around here. In

(08:03):
the quote, I mean, that's kool aid.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's a good crew.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, no kidding. I got asked by a reporter in
Hawaii about whatever I gave the typical you know, do
your job speech. Right, Hey, Matt, just read this quote
from you dot dot dot what the fuck question mark?
And by the way, so you see like when I
see this, like that's got to be coping. They're messing

(08:28):
with me. That's not real. And Bill doesn't send emails.
We have over fifty guys here working out today, and
the one who isn't here does all the talking about
how important the offseason is. Figures a lot of your
teammates were concerned about you and asked why you weren't here.
But don't worry. We let them all know that you're
in Hawaii for a week. If you want to get
something productive done out there, why don't you have him
move this meeting to the week before all in caps

(08:50):
teams start their off season programs. Question Mark, very respectfully, yours,
Bill Belichick, head coach, New England Patriots. Okay, so like
when you got that, If you got that, you know
that's not from Bill Belichick. All right, So we've been
through this. You guys got the background. It took me days,
and I did elicit a little bit of help from
a family member who's far smarter than me, and I

(09:13):
send him this now and again, I will say, my
wife from day one always told me you're gonna get
He's gonna fire you. Like, please don't do that, Matt, Please,
please don't leave here. With that device. Don't put that
on anyone's you know whatever. Don't shock, don't do what
you're thinking about doing every single day, because that will
get you fired. This one, I did kind of think
Mayo was gonna get fired Coach B and I thought

(09:34):
that was awesome. That was a way to go right.
First of all, allow me to apologize for not responding
earlier to your prior email. It has been my experience
limited as it may be that a reflexive response did
not serve anyone well. Thus, I felt it necessary to
permit time to militate a more measured philosophic response. As
you are certainly better aware than anyone. We, as human beings,
are not automatons. Rather, we stand as a compilation of

(09:56):
free will, rational beings. Given this, it becomes critical to
impose a measure of collectivism for the benefit of the order.
I realized that the concept of collectivism strikes some measure
of aberance in our rugged, individualistic society. But it is
such a collective good that allows us all to benefit,
and that does not require a study of the encannabulum
to realize that both coaches and players gained from a
measured collective relationship with the financial bully pulpit held by

(10:16):
the owners. Given this in despite my commitment to the
off season programs, I felt compelled to move forward the
collective good of the players through attendants of the PA meetings.
In a long run, it is generally for the benefit
of all. My commitment to this end is in no
way a negative reflection on my dedication and commitment to
optimizing my personal performance to the grace advantage of the team.
Your humble, free wild left tackle Matt Lait. Now that said,

(10:39):
I figured I covered all basises right, that's an even basis,
and I'm good And I kind of got off my
chest why I felt like I needed to be in
attendance right Like, it didn't seem like that big of
a deal. I had no idea that this would be
the response to that gibberis. And I got to tell you,
this is one of my favorite things in life again.
April eleven, two, twelve forty five pm. Like a midday email,

(11:03):
midday weird concluding remarks, You're gonna love this, Matt. I
need some time to let this one settle, but I'll
start with this. Why don't you consider dedicating yourself to
having fewer mistakes and not leading the team in once
again being the most penalized player on offense. Your numerous
false start penalties and evidence again at the Pro Bowl,

(11:24):
and other transgressions like tawning continue to make me think
that your distractions off the field affect your concentration on
the field. My advice, if you have an interest in
improving your performance, would be to minimize your distractions to
focus on maximizing your physical development and technique in the
offseason program. That one week really killed you. I continue
to feel that you were totally out of line commenting

(11:45):
on the importance of the program when you were not
in attendance with the rest of the team. Now this
is what it gets great. Finally, Matt, there is no
need to use multisyllable words in your email that neither
you nor I know. I am unimpressed. This will conclude
my email exchange and I will return to my efforts

(12:06):
to trying to do a better job in coaching this
football team. As for the PA meetings, don't worry about
helping me. As I have said many times, I remind myself,
the best thing we can do for ourselves and our
families is win all in caps. Try to keep that
in your mind for in your quest for world peace. Sincerely, respectful, yours,
Bill Belichick, head coach, Luning Purchas.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Next, we got Bill O'Brien on his infamous sideline fight
with Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Damn near fish fighting on the sidelines, you know, Billy?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh, can we get into that? What happened there? No
hold on now?

Speaker 6 (12:38):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
You were at practice.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
You know how practices are once again going back to
you're really like brothers. Yeah, you really are with your
with your assistant coaches.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sometimes you just want to slap the shit out of
your brother exactly.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
So like you know, you can remember practices like I
when when Bill would you know, make us use the
headsets or whatever, or we wanted to use the headsets
to practice for the game, and so you know, I'd
be pressing the button and it wouldn't be like it
would be screwed up, and maybe I'd be yelling at
Donnie Brocher and Tom would be out on a field
like you gotta press the button. You're not pressing the button.
You're not pressing the button. I took the whole thing
and like remember that day and threw it at him.

(13:16):
I'm like, you've pressed the button. I'm pressing the button
and thing's broken.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
So these little.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Fights they went to them, then they went to but
I mean, these little things would come up. And so
in that game, we Dion had gotten hurt, and like
leading up to that game late in the week and
we signed Taekwon Underwood, who now.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Is like the receiver or the receivers.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
We signed him late in the week and we were
driving the ball and somebody else got hurt. So Taekwon
had to go in and we ran Branch and he
had the incut. He was the X and he didn't
run a great incut. He kind of faded and uh
Josh what's his name in the corner for the Redskins
undercut it. Tom kind of looped it in there, so

(14:00):
over the sideline and Tom's you know, ripping Taekwon, and
I can remember Wes like all right, man, like let's
move on, like you know, basically like we we all
just got to move on.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
We all we were frustrated because we weren't moving the
ball all that game.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Like there's a lot of shit that goes up on
the sideline.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
So then it just became I don't want to get
into the hall that was said. But like, hey, Tom,
like basically like you need to shut the f up.
We got to move on now because Grossman's driving the ball.
We're gonna possibly go to overtime. And you remember who
intercepted the pass to end the game was Dorod Mayo.
I was playing defense, so but anyway, so he said,

(14:43):
you want me to shut you shut and then it
was just like to fifteen year olders, like just yelling
shut the f up, back and forth to each other.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Came over.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I'll tell you right now, that was the brilliance of
Billioh because he liked the fire guys up. And we
all knew Tom liked to be fire up because we
all know Tom plays better pissed off.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like that's the that's the truth.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
And you know there's a lot of those Jedi mind
tricks that I think that happened over there to piss
him off, because he played better pissed off.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Now, Danny Amandola on the origins of his friendship.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
With Jules, can you talk about the origin of our friendship.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
The origin of our friendship, Well, it all started way
back in sunny Los Angeles, Los Angeles, we were training
at the same place and we kind of the first
couple of days we kind of looked at each other
and we're like, who is this guy coming in here?
I think picking up my ping pong paddle, thinking he's
a shit in armor. And it took us like two

(15:42):
days to kind of warm up to each other. I
was like, hey, Julian, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Nice to meet you. I've seen a lot of your film.
You know you're a great player.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
We should yeah, ready to say that we should hang
out sometime. And then he's like, where do you live?
And I'm like, I'm in Venice.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Where you live? He's like, I'm in Venice and then
I'll see you later at three yel of the Beach
And then the.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Rest is sister the rest history favorite story of our
time in New England? What's your favorite story of our time?

Speaker 8 (16:05):
That My favorite story of our time probably when we
bought those two dirt bikes and we were crushing Foxborough
in our free time running from police. I remember one
time I was sitting on my couch, was snow It's
probably ten degrees outside, and you took one of the
bikes out for a spin and then you came back
in and your hands were like ros and frozen, and you're.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Like, I just had to run. I just had to
run from the cops, the cops. I'm like, dude, what.

Speaker 8 (16:32):
Are you doing running from the police on a Thursday
afternoon in our own city.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Every off season we would always find we would always
buy something, some activity, some toy. One year it was
like remote control cars. We broke them the first day.
Next year it was like little mini bikes. We rode
them for like two months. Yeah, we had drone. We
went through a drone stage, went a little inside drones
in the houses.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, drone man.

Speaker 8 (16:55):
We played ping pong every day, probably every day, probably
twenty games of ping pong until one of us was
muddy and bleeding.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Muddy and or bleeding.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Nip spit everywhere, water bottles everywhere. We played in Danny's
old little uh. He had a basement that was unfinished
at the house he was staying at, and it was
like cement and we'd just be spitting hitting balls. He'd
beat me with an iPhone. Get an iPhone once. I
didn't play ping pong growing up.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
This guy was.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Like like one of those world class like dudes that
you see in China Forrest Gump. This guy was Forrest Gump,
best hand eye coordination. He beat me with the fucking iPhone.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Next up, we got Matt patricia on signing Danny am
Mondola to the Patriots.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
I was so blessed, like to be around great guys,
and I mean, it's so many, but it was like
it was unreal obviously. I mean, you know, I got
to bring him up.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Of course, Italians love Italians.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
The same thing I had with Welker. It was like
I said it, Bill, I was like, we played Welker.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
One year at Miami and.

Speaker 9 (18:00):
Well, don't know, Mari who play at Syracuse pulls his
calf in warm up. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm gonna
just pull his calf and then I'm looking, I'm like,
Wes Welker is kicking. Wes Welker kicked off kickfield goals,
extra points caught like one hundred and thirty yards on me.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I was like, we got them in the game.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
I was like, can we trade for this guy because
I don't think I want to cover this guy anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
This guy is bru.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
So we traded, so the same thing we're getting Amon Doola.
I was like, I don't. I don't want a game plan,
you man, like, can we just get you over here
on this side?

Speaker 10 (18:27):
And like you look at all they all went out
car shop and went ahead. The car in the garage
already we had we had a good bottle too, Yeah,
you had the real car in the garage already.

Speaker 9 (18:39):
We're just trying to get as many as possible and
many as possible. So yeah, so Ami Dola and I
I was I love that.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I wanted to kill you all when you signed Adola.
Do you know how much of a better player? I know,
but I still wanted to murder you. Good you should.
I think that's what Bill like to.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Bill used to sign me these contracts where he knew
it was enough to make me satisfied but also enough
to piss me off.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Listen, you and me both.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
He did that with all of you know, it's like
trying to negotiate a coaching contract in there.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Hey, but I don't.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
I don't think I should, and she think we should
a little bit more here He's like, yeah, no, I'm
just gonna keep youring place.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
But yeah, yeah no.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Now.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Rich Ornberger on how Tom Brady defeated Father Time.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Explain Tom Brady, I mean, explain how he did it
for as long as he did.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I don't think it's a it's a product of the
perfect storm. It's a his health and wellness lifestyle. That's real.
That sh it's real.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Like the guy, you know, he wouldn't put anything in
his body that he didn't think that was fucking great.
Whatever Alex said, he did that. If Alex said he'd
a turd, this will make you fucking heal faster.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
When I was in New England, if Alex Barrow asked
me to eat a turn, I would have done it,
you know what, even like I would have too.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
I mean, if one choose better, right, I mean I would.
I did select this shit.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
I do with that.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
But and also I think a lot of has to
do with the rule changes as well. Yeah, you know,
he he's the first quarterback that went from the medieval
time football to what it is now. That's true where
the quarterback is so protected, so these guys and he
and his build has always been in the pocket, so

(20:26):
he hasn't had to be, you know, rad explosive to
get outside the pocket or this. He could work everything
he had to work until he was forty five. And
that's a testament to his hard work and his lifestyle.
But it's also a testament to you know, you watch
some of these quarterbacks that got hit back in the
day or even earlier in his career, when his helmet

(20:47):
got tooken off the Yeah, these guys were getting hit.
And then we look at Trevor Lawrence who goes down
and doesn't think he should even be touched. Like this
is a National football league. These are fucking animals, dude. Yeah,
you got to protect yourself at all goddamn time. It
doesn't matter if it's a free player. You can't get hit,
you know what I mean. So like I think it's
the perfect storm.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
It really is is probably accurate, Like there's always an
intersection of and he's just great to by God. Yeah
touch by God. Right, So there's some of that luck
factor whatever it is. I mean, met with the most
I've ever seen anybody work on his body, on his diet, nutrition, health,
physical fitness, body work. He hired us, you know, a

(21:28):
guy to literally keep an eye on it so he
didn't have to. It was like, I mean, every single
aspect of his life was encompassing or was circled around
being the best he could possibly be today, and that
level of sacrifice it's so rare and so unique now.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
And it's also it's he's got like he's got an
extraordinary ability to compartmentalize that is extraordinary, you know what
I mean, Like it didn't matter what was going on
in his life. Yep, Tom Brady was the same guy
every day at work. Yeah, like almost the nerd guy

(22:05):
that was in there at first with his book taking notes,
hand up, fucking heroically unflappable.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
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