June 22, 2025 • 21 mins
In this week's edition of Highlight Reels we've got some of the best stories NFL legends have graced us with in The Nuthouse! From Terry Bradshaw breaking down the greatest play from his NFL career to Matt Light on his early days in the league, we've got stories upon stories from some of the greatest to ever do it.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're bringing you another compilation of some of my favorite
stories from games.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
With names, and that's called now. Terry Bradshaw on the
Greatest play in NFL History.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So why did we pick this game the immaculate reception.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, it's the most famous play still to the voted
on by whomever sports writers or coaches or fans as
the greatest play in the history of the NFL, which
is we're talking to one hundred years of history. So
it's pretty amazing. Hard to believe it's still the number
one play because, as I said, there are a lot
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of plays. But I think because of the history Julian
of the Steelers and eventually the rivalry between the Raiders,
and the fact that had so much controversy in it,
the fact that the owner Arn't Rooney left the press
box went to the locker room to stand up and
shake our hands afterwards, telling us.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Hey, great season, great season.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
He didn't even see the play.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He didn't know we won. Yeah wow.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I guess for all of those reasons, that's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Next up, Howie Long on his nineteen eighty four Raiders
defense and key matchups that led to their Super Bowl victory.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
They were a physical team that forced you to match
their physicality, and few teams could do that. And you know,
you think about their wide receiving cores. You know Garrett
Monk or Monk, Hall of Famers, Hall of Famers, good
as guy, Lady Warren and Walker. You know those the
tight ends were. You know, they were guys who were committed.
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They go two three tight ends, they load up, and
the first thing you're thinking about, particularly in the three
man front, is we've got to stop the run. We've
got to stop the counter. I've got to beat the
polers on the back side. So I cheatd maybe three
inches outside on the guard to make that block for
Bostic all the all the hard and Stark is going
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to try to get a hand inside while the center's
blocking back in the guard tackle poll and you know
I was they couldn't. They had id say they couldn't.
They struggled to run that away from me, so they
had to run it to me. And fourth down I'll
never forget. You know, we there was a fourth and
big fourth and one in the game, and you know
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they flipped me over to Jojacobe because look, you're gonna
Jojacobe six whatever, six eight three twenty Jesus Hue, He's
just a big man. Eighties to these are big men.
He's a big man.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And we talk about the game getting so much bigger.
I mean, that's a big man.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Well, Joe was an exceptionally big guy, and we knew
where the ball was going. They knew where the ball
was going, and I'm inside eye on Joe, on Joe,
and you know, everyone around me was like, you know,
you know, this is it. This is kind of a
huge moment, and you know, we stuff it on fourth
down or on third and third and short or fourth
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and d I'm not sure exactly what it was, but
it ended up being one of the bigger players in
the game. Derek Jensen blocks a punt. That's a big thing,
and I run to start the game, and ironically enough
backed up second. I think it was second and long.
It was the play that ended up beating us. Earlier
in the year, it was Joe Washington on a screen.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So we're in the other side though.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Charlie Sumner, who was an old bear or a legged
old bear. You know, there were a lot of bears
on our staff. Guys that played with Doug Atkins really
really tough guys, and Charlie was a great coordinator, and uh,
we were simple.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
We didn't we We ran.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Maybe two blitzes a game because our corners didn't have
to even get in the huddle because they were in
cover one or you know. And our guy from Mike
Haynes Haynes and Lester Hayes, and they were two very different.
Lester was a converted linebacker playing corner from Texas A
and m I think, and Mike Haynes was poetry and
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you know, just mirrored what it was kind of like Reevus.
It was kind of like that kind of thing.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
It was like, well, was he a smart did he
study a bunch? Because usually what I always saw off
with the best corners that I played with, they could
cheat because they knew situationally what concepts you would run,
said they would run the route for you because they
were so dialed into formation. You know, Like that's what
I saw with like the best I don't know, but
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there's some guys I don't know that just you just
say cover him.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Lester in my mind, who should be in the Hall
of Fame. Was a weekend in Vegas. Yeah, you know
it was. He was up and on you, and it
was all or you know, I'm hit me on a sixteen,
you know what I mean. Yeah, Mike was it was
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like he was just looking in a mirror and just
cover the shit out of him. Yeah, and could do
it all day long.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Up next, Matt light on his early football journey.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Small little town, big farming community. I'd never seen a
game until I played the one, right, so I didn't
know Prudue was in the big ten. I'd never seen
a college game. My dad severe polio growing up, right,
we didn't do sports. We were into the outdoors, you know,
pre eighteen hundred encampments, running around doing crazy stuff, hawking,
knife competition, hunting, fishing.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Did ESPN stuff like where they would do like the
Axcene and loved it.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, it was the best. Man.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I used to watch it.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
You ever watched you guys know who Marty Stalfer is?
You ever heard that name? No, I'm Marty Stalfer. Welcome
to Our Wild America. That's like my favorite show growing up. Dude,
he like take you out and show you neat thing,
like here's a pine Martin. They're really clever and he
like filmed him.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean it was awesome.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Dude, it's almost like Bob Ross meets you know, like
David Attenborough.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
David.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
Yeah, there we go without the British accent. David Attenborough
is a badass, So, sir, sir, by the way, Sir
David Attenborough. So anyway, that was my world. Man, growing up,
small little town. I had no idea to get a scholarship.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You didn't play high school You played high school football?
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Oh yeah, man, I played well. My mom did not
want me around. So like like I played pee wee,
I was. I was in football in my life, but
and terrible, really terrible. I was a tight end. I
went to Purdue as a tight end for some unknown reason.
I never did anything athletic. Ever, I was never a
tight end in high school.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
You keep on saying that, bro, you're like an undersized tackle.
You have to be athletic.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Well, no, I I can, I could I have. I
have decent short space quickness, I think is what they said.
You know, here's an awesome one. Right, So for you,
how did they describe you for the combine?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Do you remember that you do.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Remember the right up for your worker than fast doesn't
have a position.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Do you guys have this right up can you guys
research this right up?
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Yeah, okay, go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Quicker than fast doesn't have a position played against shitty talent.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
This is depressing. I wasn't going this route. Get it
out though, get it over with because they were wrong.
They were dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah they were.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
But the but they describe things right, Like what I'm
getting at is.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
White guys smart, white works hard.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Yeah yeah, guy, guy, yeah, guy. I love how all
white guys are guys.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Like blazing speed.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Nope, he's an effort guys.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The game's a gym rat.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Loves the game is in there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm looking here. Ken State staff comments on Julian Edelman
from Fall two thousand and eight, upper echelon worker, knows
his physical limitations.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
He likes better, likes to be s what's that mean?
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Bullshit?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Wonderful start a podcast yelling at people.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We do love the bullshit. Once the ball in his hands,
football in things will help him as a wide receiver,
has the feet to play defensive back.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
They're right about that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Most competitive guy I've ever coached.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
The see that seed.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
But that's pretty good remarks, you know, mine said? All right,
So there's a lot of things that that you can
say about offensive lineman. Right, they talk about lower body strength,
has a good wing span, real good punch, great drive
off the ball, initial contact, you know, drops his hips.
I mean, there's all kind of really short spaced quickness.
Blah blah blah blah blah. None of that was said
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for me, you know, you know mine said, I swear
to God. Basically mine was, He's coachable.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
That's it. That's it. He's coachable.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
And I don't even know why that would even translate
to anything that would actually help me get drafted, But
basically I was coachable and having never seen anything, never
seen a draft in my life, when I got drafted
by New England, I thought I was going to some
other country.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
I didn't know where New England was either.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
I had no clue. Man, I wouldn't have been able
to throw at dart and come close.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Now I knew me because of Madden.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
I didn't know where Foxborough was though, never heard of it,
because you guys were winning Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
So I used to play with the guys there once
in a while. Yeah, became relevant. Yeah, So that was
my world.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Man, I didn't know anything about the game of football.
You know, blessed to do it. And and honestly, man,
you know, just just the people we got in those
early years, especially man like the you know, I think
back on these guys, these guys like Roman Fifer and
Grant Williams and man, so many guys that you know,
the uh Rodney man. Oh man, you know, Jermaine Wiggins,
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you know, gosh, man, we had Mike Compton's we had
we had all these guys that we didn't have our
you know, we weren't individually announced. You know, that was
a big deal. But that's because none of us, you know,
were above the other.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Like I used to always say this man Bill could
do it the way he did it, and he could
drive all of our dicks in the dirt every single
day because we were all in the same pit of despair.
If if there was somebody that was up on a
ledge looking down on us, that was a teammate, it
wouldn't have worked, you know, when you and by the way,
there were times that he did show some favoritism and
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that's when things got ugly in the locker room.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Defense on defense, but but but if we had a
good practice on offense, we had a bad practice as
a team. Yeah, like if we dominated the defense, we had.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
A bad practice, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Next we have Lashawn McCoy talking about his iconic snow
game performances. But the elephant in the room leading up
to this game the weather.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It was sixteen point seven inches of snow. Didn't stop
the entire game. Nine inches during the game.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Nine inches as Buffy, this is crazy. I said, boys,
let me get the rock.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I got you, you said in that pregame, and get
the rock, said in front of the whole team, the
pre team where that of the offense.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Offense, boys, let me get the rock.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It was a cool game.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
The cool thing about the snow where people don't understand
is that I love it so much because when I
get tackled, it's like falling on pillows.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, the big factors hit me. It don't hurt. Think
about that hurt And they can't get the attraction. But
I can sign me up. It's an advent.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
I always played well on the snow as well as
I house to punt in Chicago in the snow.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Did you did you play any like like college games
and so yeah, Northern Illinois.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I went to schooling in Ohio, Kent State. Is this
the best snow game of all time?
Speaker 10 (11:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You had another, another good one. I had twenty yards
in the snow before. But before this or after before?
What was you were with Philly? Who did you play? Detroit? Detroit?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
You never seen that game?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That megatron they always show he has all the snow
on his helmet. That's that's the game. I think that's
the game. This is two hundred and then what was
this one forty? Did you have one forty or.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
One fifty fifty two? I believe so?
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Are you the the greatest snow running back of all time?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Sorry?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, I don't know other facts that's playing this though.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You know I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm saying yes, not a It's not a bad answer.
It's not a bad answer now, guys, but I don't know.
I'm a humble guy, man, I'm humble.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Come on now now. Reggie Bush on winning the Heisman.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
He's the cutback the Heisman moment, I think so, I
think it is. I think that was a moment that's
when you knew you had it? Were you still nervous?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Game?
Speaker 11 (12:36):
Is when I felt like I had solidified it because
it was still you know, talk about you know, some
other guys.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I think Adrian Peterson was up for the Heisman Trophy
this year. I think young Vince Young.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
D' Angelo Williams was the Angelo.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Angelo.
Speaker 11 (12:51):
Shout out to D'Angelo and Vince, my guys. And that's
what I love about, you know, games like this. You know,
there's I've built friendships with eyes now that you know,
I played against Vince Young and they beat us, and
me and him are you know cool now friends? And
so you know, it's just it's just it's great. That's
why I love the game. But I was cool Vince
until I hit him and I broke my back. Fucking
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this wasn't like, this wasn't college Vince when he was
thin and so this is Philadelphia, Evince. I was playing
defense and you know Vince was a little thicker. I
hit him square in the middle and broke my back.
I led the league in ice hot packs from there
on out. That's what my leading stat was. Oh my god,
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that's funny, man. Hey, everybody get them. Welcomed them moments where.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You know I hit him, Oh yeah, he was staying
in a brick wall brick.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
And I you know, you go high, you get a
penalty because I was playing corner at a corner blitz.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Wait he was playing corner.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Yeah, I played corner with New England for a while,
so I had a corner blitz.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And why don't I read? Why am I not play
like four or.
Speaker 11 (13:58):
Five games at corner when we into Super Bowl? Might
have sound like it was a couple of years.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I'm like, the Super Bowl AFC Championship, I had, like
why we were We were getting guys off the street, banged.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Up, guys hurt. I do remember this now we were
banged up.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Next up, Antonio Gates on learning the game from scratch.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Walk me through how you transitioned in like that first
training camp, that first whenever you got there, the mini camp.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Talk me through that.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Because I couldn't even get into a fucking receiver stance.
Bro I watched my rookie mini camps. I watched my
rookie mini camp recently or like a year ago, and
I'm sitting here looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame
trying to take off on a release. Walk me through
how you transition because you didn't even play the spy.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Right, what dude, Like, you know what I'm saying, It's
the same for everybody. Man, it's the it's the you know,
it's the progression. It's stages, right, you know that's stage
one for me and you that ain't that don't change,
you know. For me, it was even you know, probably
more complicated, you know, the range of which I had
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to come from because I didn't play college football. But
I think it served me somewhat on an advantage because
I didn't have any what I would like to consider credit.
I didn't have any bad habits. I'm like, you're a
fresh canvas, right, So I was learning from a clean slate.
But I'm like, gosh, right, but unlike you know, unlike
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people that's like you know what I'm saying. They come
in and they already learned how to run, you know, learn,
So now you're trying to change what you learned in
Kent State, say a god, come from miskan Or, Ohio.
They changing what they've already learned for three or four years.
And I didn't have to change nothing. I just had
to learn it from the first time. So I felt
like it was somewhat easier for me. Like credit. You
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better to have no credit than bad credit. Right, So
it was like I felt like I was it was
a little easier transition. Now it wasn't easy. I just
felt like it was easier. I didn't get in the stands.
You know what I'm saying, right, I couldn't understand.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Motion, remember right, yeah right, I'm not Yeah, I'm trying
to see what covers of that, right.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So I got to a point I was so bad.
They just told me to just stand up, just do
what you want to do. Days.
Speaker 10 (16:15):
Yeah, iuld stand up at the end of the line,
I would do whatever because they got to be worried
about what I'm doing at this point, why I'm worried
about what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
So yeah, it got to that level. But the idea
was I just remember learning watching who. I thought. Like
when you said watching who, I thought, who is your guy?
I mean, we had a guy called Eric named Eric
Parker who played receiver from Tennessee and he was our
starting receiver. And obviously you know we had Keenan mc
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carter came along, but Eric Parker to me initially was
a guy who ran robs to the tea, dropped his weight.
I mean, coming at you full speed, drop his way,
and I mean two or three steps he coming out.
He ain't overstepping to come out like everything your tone.
I'm like, this is why he's starting simple, this is
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why he's starting right. And then I was as I'm
mature and I got a chance to go to the
Pro Bowls and I start watching Marvin Harrison. He was
another guy that I would watch in practice and like,
this is crazy to me. This is perfect to me.
You know, even though I'm playing tight end, I'm still
with the vision of what I think a perfect rot
runner looks like.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Vernon Davis on his NFL Draft and Combine experience.
Speaker 12 (17:30):
Going to the draft, it was, man, it was like
I just kept hearing that song by eminem you only
get one shot. I missed your chance to you know,
opportunities come once in the lifetime. That song just kept
going off inside my mind. Then when I got to
the Combine, I started listening to that song and I
just I knew I was only going to get one
shot and if I didn't capitalize on it, that was it.
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Because being at Maryland, you know, I wasn't. Yeah, I
was up for the MACKI every week and things of
that nature. Sure, but they didn't talk about me much.
It was always Mercedes Lewis. Mercedes Lewis. He was, you know,
he was the big shot when it came came to
the tight end position, and I knew that I had
to go to this combine and I had to outperform everyone.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
And I did.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
And in between that time, after I had my performance
and getting drafted, oh that was all that was. My
agent was coming up to me. He's like, you got
a shot. You got a chance to get drafted the
top top ten, top ten, it's always top ten. But
I would go to these meetings and I started meeting
with these teams, you know, you meet with the teams
and things of that nature. And I met with the
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Jets and I knew they had the fourth pick they
were get they had the fourth pick in the draft.
I said, I'm about to be I'm about to be
top four. I'm about to be tight And they loved me.
I mean we would sitting we sat there, we watched
film and they were talking about how they were going
to utilize me at the position.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I just knew they won't.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Take meashaw Ferguson.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I put my head you wanted to be in the
big apple. You wanted to be in the big apple.
I wanted to be in a big apple.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Up next to Keishawn Johnson on his first playoff game
in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
First playoff game, Boy, did he leave an impact big time?
What were the stats?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Do it all?
Speaker 10 (19:16):
One?
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Nine rights and touchdown to touch the interception, fumble recovery,
bumble recovery.
Speaker 13 (19:22):
Let me let me make sure we get it right
so we can put some shine on this nine catches,
one hundred and twenty one yards, ten rush yards, two touchdowns,
should have been three. Called him down the one on
one that was bs an interception in a fumble recovery.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I got called down on the one.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, there was one in the second top Chris Martin
punches like it was like a it was like a
seam throw of some sort in the red area fell down.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Now you got tackled on the one like it was
you went up for the ball and like I don't
even remember. See, that's that's when you know. Now Now,
now you now that you told me that.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
Next time I talk about this game, So mumba letting
us SA should I should have had three touchdowns, right, three?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Damn, I should have had three. Should have had three?
I didn't even Yeah, so yeah, I didn't know that.
I didn't.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
I don't remember because I really literally have never watched
the game. Yeah, I mean, I don't even remember watching
it back to get ready for the AFC Championship game.
I don't remember watching the game. I mean I see
the highlights of the game, but not the full game.
You didn't see them very much. I'm just kind of
trying to correlate. Probably divisional round.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
You take all the bad from it and you move on,
and you're already thinking about, yeah, the next game.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
You know, that was my This was my first playoff game.
But you know, I knew I could play. I'm not
even worried about it. I don't know, that's the least
of my worried. But when you don't have a quarterback,
sometimes things don't go the way you need to.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But I had the.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
Hot, hottest quarterback in the National Football League that year
was Vinnie testa Verdi, who came in I think it
was four games into the season. After we binge Glenn Foley,
we brought in Vinnie. Vinnie didn't even play the entire
season and yeah, I just I don't know, I just
treated like a normal game. But that's you know, that
was just the way I always as West, and it
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just happened to be my first playoff game.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new
episode and every Sunday for another games with names Highlight
Year
We're bringing you another compilation of some of my favorite
stories from games.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
With names, and that's called now. Terry Bradshaw on the
Greatest play in NFL History.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So why did we pick this game the immaculate reception.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, it's the most famous play still to the voted
on by whomever sports writers or coaches or fans as
the greatest play in the history of the NFL, which
is we're talking to one hundred years of history. So
it's pretty amazing. Hard to believe it's still the number
one play because, as I said, there are a lot
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of plays. But I think because of the history Julian
of the Steelers and eventually the rivalry between the Raiders,
and the fact that had so much controversy in it,
the fact that the owner Arn't Rooney left the press
box went to the locker room to stand up and
shake our hands afterwards, telling us.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Hey, great season, great season.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
He didn't even see the play.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He didn't know we won. Yeah wow.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I guess for all of those reasons, that's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Next up, Howie Long on his nineteen eighty four Raiders
defense and key matchups that led to their Super Bowl victory.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
They were a physical team that forced you to match
their physicality, and few teams could do that. And you know,
you think about their wide receiving cores. You know Garrett
Monk or Monk, Hall of Famers, Hall of Famers, good
as guy, Lady Warren and Walker. You know those the
tight ends were. You know, they were guys who were committed.
(01:38):
They go two three tight ends, they load up, and
the first thing you're thinking about, particularly in the three
man front, is we've got to stop the run. We've
got to stop the counter. I've got to beat the
polers on the back side. So I cheatd maybe three
inches outside on the guard to make that block for
Bostic all the all the hard and Stark is going
(02:01):
to try to get a hand inside while the center's
blocking back in the guard tackle poll and you know
I was they couldn't. They had id say they couldn't.
They struggled to run that away from me, so they
had to run it to me. And fourth down I'll
never forget. You know, we there was a fourth and
big fourth and one in the game, and you know
(02:24):
they flipped me over to Jojacobe because look, you're gonna
Jojacobe six whatever, six eight three twenty Jesus Hue, He's
just a big man. Eighties to these are big men.
He's a big man.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And we talk about the game getting so much bigger.
I mean, that's a big man.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Well, Joe was an exceptionally big guy, and we knew
where the ball was going. They knew where the ball
was going, and I'm inside eye on Joe, on Joe,
and you know, everyone around me was like, you know,
you know, this is it. This is kind of a
huge moment, and you know, we stuff it on fourth
down or on third and third and short or fourth
(03:04):
and d I'm not sure exactly what it was, but
it ended up being one of the bigger players in
the game. Derek Jensen blocks a punt. That's a big thing,
and I run to start the game, and ironically enough
backed up second. I think it was second and long.
It was the play that ended up beating us. Earlier
in the year, it was Joe Washington on a screen.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So we're in the other side though.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Charlie Sumner, who was an old bear or a legged
old bear. You know, there were a lot of bears
on our staff. Guys that played with Doug Atkins really
really tough guys, and Charlie was a great coordinator, and uh,
we were simple.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
We didn't we We ran.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Maybe two blitzes a game because our corners didn't have
to even get in the huddle because they were in
cover one or you know. And our guy from Mike
Haynes Haynes and Lester Hayes, and they were two very different.
Lester was a converted linebacker playing corner from Texas A
and m I think, and Mike Haynes was poetry and
(04:09):
you know, just mirrored what it was kind of like Reevus.
It was kind of like that kind of thing.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
It was like, well, was he a smart did he
study a bunch? Because usually what I always saw off
with the best corners that I played with, they could
cheat because they knew situationally what concepts you would run,
said they would run the route for you because they
were so dialed into formation. You know, Like that's what
I saw with like the best I don't know, but
(04:39):
there's some guys I don't know that just you just
say cover him.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Lester in my mind, who should be in the Hall
of Fame. Was a weekend in Vegas. Yeah, you know
it was. He was up and on you, and it
was all or you know, I'm hit me on a sixteen,
you know what I mean. Yeah, Mike was it was
(05:03):
like he was just looking in a mirror and just
cover the shit out of him. Yeah, and could do
it all day long.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Up next, Matt light on his early football journey.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Small little town, big farming community. I'd never seen a
game until I played the one, right, so I didn't
know Prudue was in the big ten. I'd never seen
a college game. My dad severe polio growing up, right,
we didn't do sports. We were into the outdoors, you know,
pre eighteen hundred encampments, running around doing crazy stuff, hawking,
knife competition, hunting, fishing.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Did ESPN stuff like where they would do like the
Axcene and loved it.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, it was the best. Man.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I used to watch it.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
You ever watched you guys know who Marty Stalfer is?
You ever heard that name? No, I'm Marty Stalfer. Welcome
to Our Wild America. That's like my favorite show growing up. Dude,
he like take you out and show you neat thing,
like here's a pine Martin. They're really clever and he
like filmed him.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean it was awesome.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Dude, it's almost like Bob Ross meets you know, like
David Attenborough.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
David.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
Yeah, there we go without the British accent. David Attenborough
is a badass, So, sir, sir, by the way, Sir
David Attenborough. So anyway, that was my world. Man, growing up,
small little town. I had no idea to get a scholarship.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You didn't play high school You played high school football?
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Oh yeah, man, I played well. My mom did not
want me around. So like like I played pee wee,
I was. I was in football in my life, but
and terrible, really terrible. I was a tight end. I
went to Purdue as a tight end for some unknown reason.
I never did anything athletic. Ever, I was never a
tight end in high school.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
You keep on saying that, bro, you're like an undersized tackle.
You have to be athletic.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Well, no, I I can, I could I have. I
have decent short space quickness, I think is what they said.
You know, here's an awesome one. Right, So for you,
how did they describe you for the combine?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Do you remember that you do.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Remember the right up for your worker than fast doesn't
have a position.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Do you guys have this right up can you guys
research this right up?
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Yeah, okay, go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Quicker than fast doesn't have a position played against shitty talent.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
This is depressing. I wasn't going this route. Get it
out though, get it over with because they were wrong.
They were dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah they were.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
But the but they describe things right, Like what I'm
getting at is.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
White guys smart, white works hard.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Yeah yeah, guy, guy, yeah, guy. I love how all
white guys are guys.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Like blazing speed.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Nope, he's an effort guys.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The game's a gym rat.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Loves the game is in there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm looking here. Ken State staff comments on Julian Edelman
from Fall two thousand and eight, upper echelon worker, knows
his physical limitations.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
He likes better, likes to be s what's that mean?
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Bullshit?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Wonderful start a podcast yelling at people.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We do love the bullshit. Once the ball in his hands,
football in things will help him as a wide receiver,
has the feet to play defensive back.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
They're right about that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Most competitive guy I've ever coached.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
The see that seed.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
But that's pretty good remarks, you know, mine said? All right,
So there's a lot of things that that you can
say about offensive lineman. Right, they talk about lower body strength,
has a good wing span, real good punch, great drive
off the ball, initial contact, you know, drops his hips.
I mean, there's all kind of really short spaced quickness.
Blah blah blah blah blah. None of that was said
(08:31):
for me, you know, you know mine said, I swear
to God. Basically mine was, He's coachable.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
That's it. That's it. He's coachable.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
And I don't even know why that would even translate
to anything that would actually help me get drafted, But
basically I was coachable and having never seen anything, never
seen a draft in my life, when I got drafted
by New England, I thought I was going to some
other country.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
I didn't know where New England was either.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
I had no clue. Man, I wouldn't have been able
to throw at dart and come close.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Now I knew me because of Madden.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
I didn't know where Foxborough was though, never heard of it,
because you guys were winning Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
So I used to play with the guys there once
in a while. Yeah, became relevant. Yeah, So that was
my world.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Man, I didn't know anything about the game of football.
You know, blessed to do it. And and honestly, man,
you know, just just the people we got in those
early years, especially man like the you know, I think
back on these guys, these guys like Roman Fifer and
Grant Williams and man, so many guys that you know,
the uh Rodney man. Oh man, you know, Jermaine Wiggins,
(09:37):
you know, gosh, man, we had Mike Compton's we had
we had all these guys that we didn't have our
you know, we weren't individually announced. You know, that was
a big deal. But that's because none of us, you know,
were above the other.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Like I used to always say this man Bill could
do it the way he did it, and he could
drive all of our dicks in the dirt every single
day because we were all in the same pit of despair.
If if there was somebody that was up on a
ledge looking down on us, that was a teammate, it
wouldn't have worked, you know, when you and by the way,
there were times that he did show some favoritism and
(10:14):
that's when things got ugly in the locker room.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Defense on defense, but but but if we had a
good practice on offense, we had a bad practice as
a team. Yeah, like if we dominated the defense, we had.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
A bad practice, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Next we have Lashawn McCoy talking about his iconic snow
game performances. But the elephant in the room leading up
to this game the weather.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It was sixteen point seven inches of snow. Didn't stop
the entire game. Nine inches during the game.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Nine inches as Buffy, this is crazy. I said, boys,
let me get the rock.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I got you, you said in that pregame, and get
the rock, said in front of the whole team, the
pre team where that of the offense.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Offense, boys, let me get the rock.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It was a cool game.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
The cool thing about the snow where people don't understand
is that I love it so much because when I
get tackled, it's like falling on pillows.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, the big factors hit me. It don't hurt. Think
about that hurt And they can't get the attraction. But
I can sign me up. It's an advent.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
I always played well on the snow as well as
I house to punt in Chicago in the snow.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Did you did you play any like like college games
and so yeah, Northern Illinois.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I went to schooling in Ohio, Kent State. Is this
the best snow game of all time?
Speaker 10 (11:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You had another, another good one. I had twenty yards
in the snow before. But before this or after before?
What was you were with Philly? Who did you play? Detroit? Detroit?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
You never seen that game?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That megatron they always show he has all the snow
on his helmet. That's that's the game. I think that's
the game. This is two hundred and then what was
this one forty? Did you have one forty or.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
One fifty fifty two? I believe so?
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Are you the the greatest snow running back of all time?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Sorry?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, I don't know other facts that's playing this though.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You know I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm saying yes, not a It's not a bad answer.
It's not a bad answer now, guys, but I don't know.
I'm a humble guy, man, I'm humble.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Come on now now. Reggie Bush on winning the Heisman.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
He's the cutback the Heisman moment, I think so, I
think it is. I think that was a moment that's
when you knew you had it? Were you still nervous?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Game?
Speaker 11 (12:36):
Is when I felt like I had solidified it because
it was still you know, talk about you know, some
other guys.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I think Adrian Peterson was up for the Heisman Trophy
this year. I think young Vince Young.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
D' Angelo Williams was the Angelo.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Angelo.
Speaker 11 (12:51):
Shout out to D'Angelo and Vince, my guys. And that's
what I love about, you know, games like this. You know,
there's I've built friendships with eyes now that you know,
I played against Vince Young and they beat us, and
me and him are you know cool now friends? And
so you know, it's just it's just it's great. That's
why I love the game. But I was cool Vince
until I hit him and I broke my back. Fucking
(13:14):
this wasn't like, this wasn't college Vince when he was
thin and so this is Philadelphia, Evince. I was playing
defense and you know Vince was a little thicker. I
hit him square in the middle and broke my back.
I led the league in ice hot packs from there
on out. That's what my leading stat was. Oh my god,
(13:34):
that's funny, man. Hey, everybody get them. Welcomed them moments where.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You know I hit him, Oh yeah, he was staying
in a brick wall brick.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
And I you know, you go high, you get a
penalty because I was playing corner at a corner blitz.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Wait he was playing corner.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Yeah, I played corner with New England for a while,
so I had a corner blitz.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And why don't I read? Why am I not play
like four or.
Speaker 11 (13:58):
Five games at corner when we into Super Bowl? Might
have sound like it was a couple of years.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I'm like, the Super Bowl AFC Championship, I had, like
why we were We were getting guys off the street, banged.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Up, guys hurt. I do remember this now we were
banged up.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Next up, Antonio Gates on learning the game from scratch.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Walk me through how you transitioned in like that first
training camp, that first whenever you got there, the mini camp.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Talk me through that.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Because I couldn't even get into a fucking receiver stance.
Bro I watched my rookie mini camps. I watched my
rookie mini camp recently or like a year ago, and
I'm sitting here looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame
trying to take off on a release. Walk me through
how you transition because you didn't even play the spy.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Right, what dude, Like, you know what I'm saying, It's
the same for everybody. Man, it's the it's the you know,
it's the progression. It's stages, right, you know that's stage
one for me and you that ain't that don't change,
you know. For me, it was even you know, probably
more complicated, you know, the range of which I had
(15:07):
to come from because I didn't play college football. But
I think it served me somewhat on an advantage because
I didn't have any what I would like to consider credit.
I didn't have any bad habits. I'm like, you're a
fresh canvas, right, So I was learning from a clean slate.
But I'm like, gosh, right, but unlike you know, unlike
(15:29):
people that's like you know what I'm saying. They come
in and they already learned how to run, you know, learn,
So now you're trying to change what you learned in
Kent State, say a god, come from miskan Or, Ohio.
They changing what they've already learned for three or four years.
And I didn't have to change nothing. I just had
to learn it from the first time. So I felt
like it was somewhat easier for me. Like credit. You
(15:51):
better to have no credit than bad credit. Right, So
it was like I felt like I was it was
a little easier transition. Now it wasn't easy. I just
felt like it was easier. I didn't get in the stands.
You know what I'm saying, right, I couldn't understand.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Motion, remember right, yeah right, I'm not Yeah, I'm trying
to see what covers of that, right.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So I got to a point I was so bad.
They just told me to just stand up, just do
what you want to do. Days.
Speaker 10 (16:15):
Yeah, iuld stand up at the end of the line,
I would do whatever because they got to be worried
about what I'm doing at this point, why I'm worried
about what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
So yeah, it got to that level. But the idea
was I just remember learning watching who. I thought. Like
when you said watching who, I thought, who is your guy?
I mean, we had a guy called Eric named Eric
Parker who played receiver from Tennessee and he was our
starting receiver. And obviously you know we had Keenan mc
(16:43):
carter came along, but Eric Parker to me initially was
a guy who ran robs to the tea, dropped his weight.
I mean, coming at you full speed, drop his way,
and I mean two or three steps he coming out.
He ain't overstepping to come out like everything your tone.
I'm like, this is why he's starting simple, this is
(17:05):
why he's starting right. And then I was as I'm
mature and I got a chance to go to the
Pro Bowls and I start watching Marvin Harrison. He was
another guy that I would watch in practice and like,
this is crazy to me. This is perfect to me.
You know, even though I'm playing tight end, I'm still
with the vision of what I think a perfect rot
runner looks like.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Vernon Davis on his NFL Draft and Combine experience.
Speaker 12 (17:30):
Going to the draft, it was, man, it was like
I just kept hearing that song by eminem you only
get one shot. I missed your chance to you know,
opportunities come once in the lifetime. That song just kept
going off inside my mind. Then when I got to
the Combine, I started listening to that song and I
just I knew I was only going to get one
shot and if I didn't capitalize on it, that was it.
(17:53):
Because being at Maryland, you know, I wasn't. Yeah, I
was up for the MACKI every week and things of
that nature. Sure, but they didn't talk about me much.
It was always Mercedes Lewis. Mercedes Lewis. He was, you know,
he was the big shot when it came came to
the tight end position, and I knew that I had
to go to this combine and I had to outperform everyone.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
And I did.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
And in between that time, after I had my performance
and getting drafted, oh that was all that was. My
agent was coming up to me. He's like, you got
a shot. You got a chance to get drafted the
top top ten, top ten, it's always top ten. But
I would go to these meetings and I started meeting
with these teams, you know, you meet with the teams
and things of that nature. And I met with the
(18:38):
Jets and I knew they had the fourth pick they
were get they had the fourth pick in the draft.
I said, I'm about to be I'm about to be
top four. I'm about to be tight And they loved me.
I mean we would sitting we sat there, we watched
film and they were talking about how they were going
to utilize me at the position.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I just knew they won't.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Take meashaw Ferguson.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I put my head you wanted to be in the
big apple. You wanted to be in the big apple.
I wanted to be in a big apple.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Up next to Keishawn Johnson on his first playoff game
in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
First playoff game, Boy, did he leave an impact big time?
What were the stats?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Do it all?
Speaker 10 (19:16):
One?
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Nine rights and touchdown to touch the interception, fumble recovery,
bumble recovery.
Speaker 13 (19:22):
Let me let me make sure we get it right
so we can put some shine on this nine catches,
one hundred and twenty one yards, ten rush yards, two touchdowns,
should have been three. Called him down the one on
one that was bs an interception in a fumble recovery.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I got called down on the one.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, there was one in the second top Chris Martin
punches like it was like a it was like a
seam throw of some sort in the red area fell down.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Now you got tackled on the one like it was
you went up for the ball and like I don't
even remember. See, that's that's when you know. Now Now,
now you now that you told me that.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
Next time I talk about this game, So mumba letting
us SA should I should have had three touchdowns, right, three?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Damn, I should have had three. Should have had three?
I didn't even Yeah, so yeah, I didn't know that.
I didn't.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
I don't remember because I really literally have never watched
the game. Yeah, I mean, I don't even remember watching
it back to get ready for the AFC Championship game.
I don't remember watching the game. I mean I see
the highlights of the game, but not the full game.
You didn't see them very much. I'm just kind of
trying to correlate. Probably divisional round.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
You take all the bad from it and you move on,
and you're already thinking about, yeah, the next game.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
You know, that was my This was my first playoff game.
But you know, I knew I could play. I'm not
even worried about it. I don't know, that's the least
of my worried. But when you don't have a quarterback,
sometimes things don't go the way you need to.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But I had the.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
Hot, hottest quarterback in the National Football League that year
was Vinnie testa Verdi, who came in I think it
was four games into the season. After we binge Glenn Foley,
we brought in Vinnie. Vinnie didn't even play the entire
season and yeah, I just I don't know, I just
treated like a normal game. But that's you know, that
was just the way I always as West, and it
(21:00):
just happened to be my first playoff game.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
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