October 19, 2025 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to games Names.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation
highlight reel starting now.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Now, Bronk and Jewels discuss Malcolm Butler's game winning interception
in Super Bowl forty.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Nine and that was a great play.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But people don't realize that was a great play by
Malcolm on that scene on Curse when Curse made that
weird back.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Catch and then Malcolm Butler headed out of his hands.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, he hit. What happened? You got to pick? You
got it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Is this a Javon's curse catch? Oh, Malcolm Butler did
make a hair play.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's see it. Oh that's the fight? Where is it?
It's the bottle?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Malcolm, Malcolm Butler couldn't do anything more.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I remember it now.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That was a spick, spectacular catch and it was crazy
to see Malcolm come in and have the mental toughness
because I mean, I think we I think we went
away from Arrington. Errington was starting that game and Butler.
You know, Arrington gave up some plays and Malcolm. They
put Malcolm in there after he made a play on
a scene. Because we're getting eat by those scenes. Remember that, yes,
(01:00):
and then Malcolm came in. He was making plays left
and right. He was like a little like a little spark,
a little spark little puppy dog out there. And and
you know, after I saw this, I'm sitting here like, man,
that's gonna suck for this is this sucks?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
That was a great ass play by Malcolm. And I'm
not gonna lie at this point. I'm sitting there, I'm
trying to do math in my head. I'm sitting here, like,
how much time we're gonna get the ball? What plays
do we have in our menu?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Are they gonna score right away? I think you're gonna
go back out on the field. What type of place
a were you gonna run? What do I gotta be
ready for? Two minutes pace offense? How many timeouts do
we have? I was preparing, That's what we were doing.
We were we were just mentally programmed like that to be
just ready for the final drive as well if they scored.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Thankfully, night Tower makes a great tackle on.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That tackle as a game saving tackle. People don't realize that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Night Tower is absolute monster. Was it a first down
or second down?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
That was on first and then second down? The interception
heard around the world, if you will, Malcolm makes another
heck of a play, the greatest play and maybe Super
Bowl history of his career.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That was I mean, that was so crazy. But I
remember vividly once they got in that formation. That week
of practice we practiced, our defense was practicing that play
four or five times, and Josh Boyce scored every single
time on it. And I'm sitting there because in Super
Bowl practice, where you're chilling before your next period, where
(02:26):
you sit down, you hone in. You want to see
what the defense is doing, how they're practicing, because you know,
you want to see what we're going into.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I remember, do you remember.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Watching this play with Josh Boyce fucking lighting us up
four or five times?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I remember them like, you gotta get physical.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Browner did just that, thankfully.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And Malcolm Butler came through.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I remember Malcolm in practice was sitting back more, you know,
he wasn't being aggressive. And then what happened that play
was calling the game and Malcolm Butler was super aggressive
and made the play that he needed to make. It
wasn't happening without up the preparation in practice the week before.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So Ernie, well, hold.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
On, we can't we can't move We can't move on
from this play yet, this interception Malcolm Butler. So, I
know a lot of like the public discourse about this
is that this was the stupidest thing in the world,
dumb play call. Should just give it to Marshawn Lynch.
Do you guys agree with that? Or is there because there's.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The whole time out situation where we're building take the
time out because he saw the clock was running. Personnel
group was in there.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, it's tough man.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We had like all I think we had we had
like fourteen personnel where it's all big boys in like
two corners.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Who was in I think there was three?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Three?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And so you want to throw the first out personnel?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So I mean that's right technically yes.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
So so I'm a huge Pats fan, so I'm not
going to like stand on the soapbox for the Seahawks.
I just hate that the discourse is.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Like, who's so doom?
Speaker 7 (03:59):
You should have give it to more Lynch because when
you really like dive into this play, it's a lot
more like Nuance, and there's a lot more like chess
happening between Pete Carroll and the Seahawks and what with
the Patriots and the Belichick and not just like in
this moment, but as you mentioned, chess moves happening in preparation,
Well you knew this play was a thing here. And
I think that like it does this play a disservice
and it does the Seahawks at disservice to just say, oh,
(04:21):
you should just rant it with Marshawn Because Marshawn Lynch
only had five carries inside the one yard line this year,
only one scored a touchdown, so he wasn't like an
automatic goal line back.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
He's not Mike Alstatt.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Also, situationally, the clock was running, Belichick decided not the
call timeout, even though I'm back at my house yelling
call time out like that guy, you know, you don't
know the shit, right, And so it puts them in
the situation where the clock is running, there's one timeout,
there's three more downs left. If you run it that
play and you miss, you have the call timeout, and
now your next two plays are kind of you kind
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of have to pass it or you really kind of
put yourself into a box. And I think that just
this play deserves more new And Pete Carroll's not an idiot,
and like, I don't know, that's my that's my soapbox
of it all that this play is more than just run.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It without a doubt. I mean, that's just people that
don't know football is saying that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
That's the best dissection I've ever heard of that.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
But and I I mean, I just fucking love football
because you can just dissect this one play and there's
just so much layers on it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I just hate that.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
This is just like the discourse is just like, oh,
just Lynch, I digress. I got off my soapbox.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
This is kind of football. You hear it right on
the money, brother, It's.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Kind of like a crow nut. You got a bunch
of layers of just little beautifulness blazed up into one.
You take that hole out, you dip it into a
little coffee, take a bite of it, and that's just play.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
And I have so many notes on this. But like also,
Pete Carroll had Browner on his roster the year before.
He should know that he has the ability to blow
up this play, right, So if you want, like maybe
the play call was wrong, right, but like the idea
to pass, it's just he didn't check that last Belichick
move to like make this to play the win.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They hit this play like five times though in the year.
That's what people don't realize. Yeah, you know, there's an
old saying you are which you are, you do what
you do. You hear those types of things about teams,
and that's what this team was. It was a do
what they do type of team. Confident in their process,
confident in what they do. They're not changing for you.
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They're confident in their execution and you change for them.
Malcolm Boys may have changed that whole goddamn thing. Now,
where does this interception Malcolm's interception rank among greatest Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Plays all time? It's got to be up there. It's
got to be probably, I mean, top three. It could
be tough one.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
It's probably number one, number one in my.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Book, it's got to be number one. I mean it
was to win the game.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
It was number one, number one, number one, hands down.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Next up thil on what it takes to have the
dog mentality in the NFL?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Can you explain the dog?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Can you explain I think the dog?
Speaker 8 (07:08):
The dog is a mentality. You know that, and under
any circumstances, are you gonna break me? I'm gonna win.
I'm gonna every play, even if you knock me down,
I'm gonna get back up. I'm gonna come at you
the same full tilt all day. And when adversity strikes,
you still don't drop your head. And you got that
mentality that I'm gonna beat you this play. If you
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beat me, oh the next play, Oh it's own, do
it again?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
So that's what like we're looking up right there. Kevin
Garnett dog dog.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
All time dog. What's Mile Rushmore of dogs? WHOA that's tough.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
That's tough, I would say, you know, okay, let's just
throw out a couple from me. Sport Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Dog dog.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
One that just retired, Aaron Donald. That is a dog,
Ray Lewis dog, Rodney Harrison.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Because I'm telling you I'll say Ron here because Rodd
Harrison is supposed to be in a Pro Football of Fame.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
No, no, no, okay, no, he's Jimmy Smith dog, Julia
Edelman dog, and not just because of.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
You know, I looked at the journey too. Okay, you
could make plays, you can do all this stuff, but
to know how tough. He was to be able to
go out there and do that and go out there
and do what I do. I told Troy Brown, you got.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Me fired, dog because when I got hurt hip on.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Troy Brown playing dB, you know, and and did some
dog shit picking stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
He led the league, He led the team and picks,
you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
So when you guys, when you guys come in and
do that and can do more than just your job,
and you do it with so much passion and you're
successful because no one expected you to be who you are.
Maybe you expected, but when you got drafted, or did
you get drafted, Okay, you went seventh round, damn it,
that's basically a free agent bullshit.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But you know what a free agent because you don't
have that dude two years huh exactly.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
But no one expected you or they brought you in.
They didn't expect you to turn into the only person
that can believe that is a dog. And you got
to believe in yourself because basically, when you get drafted
that late, you're coming from another position. You're basically there
for tackling dummy. You're there forgot, You're there for guys
like somebody established like myself. He beat up on exactly
so for you to make it, you know, you a
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dog right there, and then to put out there and perform.
And then you had some of the top corners out
there that didn't want to see him. So that right
there you fit in the dog. Tom Brady was a
dog dog because from day one he came in there
and he wanted to compete. He gonna talk shit, and
I'm telling him, we used to light him up, but
he coming right back at you as a dog on head,
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bunch you. He gonna fight, you, come at you. And
he was not no pump. And that's what you know.
Then he ain't no pump right there. That was like
a compliment. Oh he ain't no pump.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
Nowadays he ain't no bitch. He ain't no pump, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So that was Tom.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I look at like receivers. Like again, Hine's war was
a dog. He wasn't fast, he wasn't it. But he
will sit there and rock you. You know, he will
blindside the ship out at you too. So you always
got to keep your head on the swivel. So I
look at at the tough guys, even even you know,
like I said, te O, Randy Moss was a dog,
you know what I mean, because he was tough. Chris Carter,
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Michael Irvin, he will fight you all damn day too,
you know what I mean. So I look at so
many tough guys, but like just skill everybody and a dog.
Speaker 10 (10:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Are you born with a dog or can you develop
the dog? Because I'm sitting here looking at my seven
year old daughter and I'm seeing some of this attitude
and effort on the field right now. Yeah, And I'm like,
I don't know if we got dog in her.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
You know what my mom, my mom told me. You know,
when I was younger, she said, you know, you used
to get your ass with you know, you wasn't you
wasn't that tough. But I remember one time that I
came home righting and she made me go back out
there and fight, you know, like you're gonna you're gonna
go out there and fight. And I started development. So yes,
you can develop a dog, and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You can develop dog. Yeah, helop the dog development. You
could be born into it too.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
T shirt that's a shirt developed.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's a tie log tea shirt. That's right.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
Maybe I develged over time and you get that confidence
and then it's like when you realize that you got
to believe in yourself. That was my whole thing, was
always believing in myself what no matter what anybody thinks.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's that's what a dog is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
A dog is someone who believes in himself no matter
what the situation.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right, absolutely the situation is against you. If the world
is against.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You, still still think you're gonna do it is when
you stay ready, you.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Ain't gotta get ready now.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Andrew Whitworth breaks down that final drive that won the
Rams Super Bowl fifty six.
Speaker 10 (11:49):
That drive though, with Stafford and cup Man unfreaking believable
that you found your guy. They meet every morning at
five am on Wednesdays, and it came to life right
there and my process over results.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Baby, Now, how was how was matt right before that drive?
Was he? What was his temper? Like?
Speaker 10 (12:07):
How you know sing I'm gonna do just I mean
not that you're scared of Matthew. He's real sensitive about
matt so we call him Matthew.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He's like McConaughey is the same way serious.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Kelly's gonna she's gonna post on. I'm just telling you
I like gonna get you on Insta. If you don't,
you gotta call him, Matthew. I'm sorry, Matthew.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Matthew very serious, but still.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So how was Maddie before that?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Hey, you're like me, I'm calling Mathe the rest of
the day.
Speaker 10 (12:39):
No, anyways, So no, you know what's wild is like
when people talk about the game, right, like that's the
things I actually remember.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It is like him walking in the huddle.
Speaker 10 (12:48):
So you know, if people don't realize this, the quarterback
is always on the side of the team like, so
you know, he's communicating the coach all those things. So
obviously our sideline is away from me, being the left tackle,
and so Matthew's over on that side, and so we're
looking dead into each other every time he's getting a
call from Sehana and kind of see Sean in the
background making the calls, and I see Matthew like looking
up at us, and.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I never him getting in the huddle and he was like, hey.
Speaker 10 (13:08):
Man, let's let's go do something special right here, you know,
And there was just a look in his eye Like
I always said this, Like Matthew to me is like
John Wayne, like he just does like he's like this
cowboy bad dude in the sense of he's not a
cowboy type guy, but he's just a tough never hurt,
never says a word like it's hit. You can literally
like oh like nothing, won't say a word like not
(13:29):
blaming anybody, never tell you a thing like they're draining
his knee, his hip, whatever, Like he doesn't care. Like
the dude's just tough and that and that's who he is.
And so you're just like in the huddle, it's like,
let's go do something special.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Boys.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
You know, it's like yes, sir, you know, like nobody's
touching you think of a necessary roughness if you will
the movie, like nobody's gonna touch you. You know, like
that's literally how you felt with Matthew Stafford in thehuddle.
And you know that drive obviously him in Cup really
special and every play you know, it's like that. You know,
I look on the screen, it's like, man, it's fifteen
play drivet Gosh, it felt like four months. You know
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it literally like every we're like, oh, we found a
first down. Oh we found a first down. Let's keep going,
Let's keep going, let's keep going. So it was a wild,
wild deal but I think really special, you know, you
always think those things in the way they end to
have those two guys, the relationship they formed, the bond
and commitment they made to meet every single morning. We
also that season had what we called the Breakfast Club.
(14:24):
Meet Stafford and Cup and our wives would meet every
single Tuesday morning for breakfast that whole entire season at
Soho Ando Soho and Malibu.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We met every week.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
They'd have it like they were all ready for us
every Tuesday morning, and it really became a great bonding
experience for us. And we even did it the week
of the super Bowl. And the roughest one was the
Tuesday after the super Bowl when we haven't none of
us have slept it all.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But it was like, hey, let's have.
Speaker 10 (14:48):
One more and we met that morning and it was like, dude,
what a journey. This whole year we won a super Bowl.
Now here we are sitting here having breakfast again. It
was a special year.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And that last drive pretty much summed up that team.
Fifteen plays, you know, executing and gotta have it situations,
key third downs, your go to players, making go to plays.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
One of the best note looks ever, but not the
I mean he invented it.
Speaker 10 (15:17):
You know, Patrick said this, like I know the people,
but like mahomes Is actually said, like I grew up
watching Stafford like throw the like he is the I
know nobody like talks about that much. Like he is
the guy who like we've done that for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, Joe, Joe used to do it a little bit, yeah,
a flat, a little little flat.
Speaker 10 (15:32):
But you know he kind of took it a little
crazy a couple times a year across the damn middle.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, one doesn't look across the middle. It's kind of like,
what the fuck is this guy doing next?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Super Bowl champ Cooper Cup discusses the greatness of Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Now, one guy you're probably gonna be missing that was
on this team, Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I mean that's how how like special is just to
watch him in.
Speaker 11 (15:54):
Practice, Yeah, he's I mean, there's nothing like what he
was able to do. Yeah, the chances that his it
was really like, his ability to choose win, to take
risks and take his shot was unbelievable because of his preparation,
because of the you know, his uh preparation going into games,
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and then it was when he did take his shot,
and it wasn't there his ability to then counter and
like close gaps still, right, he'd play out of his
gap more than anyone ever, but he would make sure
that he was doing his job and closing it if
he to go as an issue, you know, like yeah,
but he wasn't he two gap, but he'd he'd run
around you. He's so fast, so quick, Like it's like
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I'm gonna get past you and I'm gonna make things
around on the other side.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Now, was he a guy that like lived in the
weight room.
Speaker 11 (16:43):
He was always I think so a d's thing, like
he secretly wants to be like like he wants to
be Dwayne Johnson, Like that's where that's where his Yeah,
he wants to be that. He wants to be the rock.
And he's so he spends so much time lifting and
it's not even like like functional lifts sometimes you know
(17:04):
it's I've actually worked out with him. I went and
worked out with him one time, so iys like, hey,
the off season, that's like you get to work out
them together. Tells me the time, show up an hour
and a half straight of arms, an hour and a half,
you almy muscles up in your.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Arms and there's not a lot like seven.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
Yeah, that's saying like bicep, tricep, Yeah, shoulder maybe if
you count that as part of your arm and the
forums for an.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Hour and a half, I mean he looked like it.
Speaker 11 (17:30):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying, Like, you don't need
to be doing arms for an hour.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And a half. No, but when your baby rhino, you
do that, dude look like a straight rhino. He is
unbelievably strong.
Speaker 11 (17:42):
And then obviously all the things on top of it
that you have as a football player where there's like
he just loves working out, loves lifting, and that just
it was an extra little part on top of the
fact that he is, you know, I think the best
defensive player of all time, and the skills and all
the stuff stuff that he had going for him in
that regard.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I'm gonna d tackles in the history of the NFL
have had abs.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's not a lot.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new
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Year
Welcome to games Names.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation
highlight reel starting now.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Now, Bronk and Jewels discuss Malcolm Butler's game winning interception
in Super Bowl forty.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Nine and that was a great play.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But people don't realize that was a great play by
Malcolm on that scene on Curse when Curse made that
weird back.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Catch and then Malcolm Butler headed out of his hands.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, he hit. What happened? You got to pick? You
got it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Is this a Javon's curse catch? Oh, Malcolm Butler did
make a hair play.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's see it. Oh that's the fight? Where is it?
It's the bottle?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Malcolm, Malcolm Butler couldn't do anything more.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I remember it now.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That was a spick, spectacular catch and it was crazy
to see Malcolm come in and have the mental toughness
because I mean, I think we I think we went
away from Arrington. Errington was starting that game and Butler.
You know, Arrington gave up some plays and Malcolm. They
put Malcolm in there after he made a play on
a scene. Because we're getting eat by those scenes. Remember that, yes,
(01:00):
and then Malcolm came in. He was making plays left
and right. He was like a little like a little spark,
a little spark little puppy dog out there. And and
you know, after I saw this, I'm sitting here like, man,
that's gonna suck for this is this sucks?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
That was a great ass play by Malcolm. And I'm
not gonna lie at this point. I'm sitting there, I'm
trying to do math in my head. I'm sitting here, like,
how much time we're gonna get the ball? What plays
do we have in our menu?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Are they gonna score right away? I think you're gonna
go back out on the field. What type of place
a were you gonna run? What do I gotta be
ready for? Two minutes pace offense? How many timeouts do
we have? I was preparing, That's what we were doing.
We were we were just mentally programmed like that to be
just ready for the final drive as well if they scored.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Thankfully, night Tower makes a great tackle on.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That tackle as a game saving tackle. People don't realize that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Night Tower is absolute monster. Was it a first down
or second down?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
That was on first and then second down? The interception
heard around the world, if you will, Malcolm makes another
heck of a play, the greatest play and maybe Super
Bowl history of his career.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That was I mean, that was so crazy. But I
remember vividly once they got in that formation. That week
of practice we practiced, our defense was practicing that play
four or five times, and Josh Boyce scored every single
time on it. And I'm sitting there because in Super
Bowl practice, where you're chilling before your next period, where
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you sit down, you hone in. You want to see
what the defense is doing, how they're practicing, because you know,
you want to see what we're going into.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I remember, do you remember.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Watching this play with Josh Boyce fucking lighting us up
four or five times?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I remember them like, you gotta get physical.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Browner did just that, thankfully.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And Malcolm Butler came through.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I remember Malcolm in practice was sitting back more, you know,
he wasn't being aggressive. And then what happened that play
was calling the game and Malcolm Butler was super aggressive
and made the play that he needed to make. It
wasn't happening without up the preparation in practice the week before.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So Ernie, well, hold.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
On, we can't we can't move We can't move on
from this play yet, this interception Malcolm Butler. So, I
know a lot of like the public discourse about this
is that this was the stupidest thing in the world,
dumb play call. Should just give it to Marshawn Lynch.
Do you guys agree with that? Or is there because there's.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The whole time out situation where we're building take the
time out because he saw the clock was running. Personnel
group was in there.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, it's tough man.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We had like all I think we had we had
like fourteen personnel where it's all big boys in like
two corners.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Who was in I think there was three?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Three?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And so you want to throw the first out personnel?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So I mean that's right technically yes.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
So so I'm a huge Pats fan, so I'm not
going to like stand on the soapbox for the Seahawks.
I just hate that the discourse is.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Like, who's so doom?
Speaker 7 (03:59):
You should have give it to more Lynch because when
you really like dive into this play, it's a lot
more like Nuance, and there's a lot more like chess
happening between Pete Carroll and the Seahawks and what with
the Patriots and the Belichick and not just like in
this moment, but as you mentioned, chess moves happening in preparation,
Well you knew this play was a thing here. And
I think that like it does this play a disservice
and it does the Seahawks at disservice to just say, oh,
(04:21):
you should just rant it with Marshawn Because Marshawn Lynch
only had five carries inside the one yard line this year,
only one scored a touchdown, so he wasn't like an
automatic goal line back.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
He's not Mike Alstatt.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Also, situationally, the clock was running, Belichick decided not the
call timeout, even though I'm back at my house yelling
call time out like that guy, you know, you don't
know the shit, right, And so it puts them in
the situation where the clock is running, there's one timeout,
there's three more downs left. If you run it that
play and you miss, you have the call timeout, and
now your next two plays are kind of you kind
(04:52):
of have to pass it or you really kind of
put yourself into a box. And I think that just
this play deserves more new And Pete Carroll's not an idiot,
and like, I don't know, that's my that's my soapbox
of it all that this play is more than just run.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It without a doubt. I mean, that's just people that
don't know football is saying that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
That's the best dissection I've ever heard of that.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
But and I I mean, I just fucking love football
because you can just dissect this one play and there's
just so much layers on it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I just hate that.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
This is just like the discourse is just like, oh,
just Lynch, I digress. I got off my soapbox.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
This is kind of football. You hear it right on
the money, brother, It's.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Kind of like a crow nut. You got a bunch
of layers of just little beautifulness blazed up into one.
You take that hole out, you dip it into a
little coffee, take a bite of it, and that's just play.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
And I have so many notes on this. But like also,
Pete Carroll had Browner on his roster the year before.
He should know that he has the ability to blow
up this play, right, So if you want, like maybe
the play call was wrong, right, but like the idea
to pass, it's just he didn't check that last Belichick
move to like make this to play the win.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They hit this play like five times though in the year.
That's what people don't realize. Yeah, you know, there's an
old saying you are which you are, you do what
you do. You hear those types of things about teams,
and that's what this team was. It was a do
what they do type of team. Confident in their process,
confident in what they do. They're not changing for you.
(06:27):
They're confident in their execution and you change for them.
Malcolm Boys may have changed that whole goddamn thing. Now,
where does this interception Malcolm's interception rank among greatest Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Plays all time? It's got to be up there. It's
got to be probably, I mean, top three. It could
be tough one.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
It's probably number one, number one in my.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Book, it's got to be number one. I mean it
was to win the game.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
It was number one, number one, number one, hands down.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Next up thil on what it takes to have the
dog mentality in the NFL?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Can you explain the dog?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Can you explain I think the dog?
Speaker 8 (07:08):
The dog is a mentality. You know that, and under
any circumstances, are you gonna break me? I'm gonna win.
I'm gonna every play, even if you knock me down,
I'm gonna get back up. I'm gonna come at you
the same full tilt all day. And when adversity strikes,
you still don't drop your head. And you got that
mentality that I'm gonna beat you this play. If you
(07:29):
beat me, oh the next play, Oh it's own, do
it again?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
So that's what like we're looking up right there. Kevin
Garnett dog dog.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
All time dog. What's Mile Rushmore of dogs? WHOA that's tough.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
That's tough, I would say, you know, okay, let's just
throw out a couple from me. Sport Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Dog dog.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
One that just retired, Aaron Donald. That is a dog,
Ray Lewis dog, Rodney Harrison.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Because I'm telling you I'll say Ron here because Rodd
Harrison is supposed to be in a Pro Football of Fame.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
No, no, no, okay, no, he's Jimmy Smith dog, Julia
Edelman dog, and not just because of.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
You know, I looked at the journey too. Okay, you
could make plays, you can do all this stuff, but
to know how tough. He was to be able to
go out there and do that and go out there
and do what I do. I told Troy Brown, you got.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Me fired, dog because when I got hurt hip on.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Troy Brown playing dB, you know, and and did some
dog shit picking stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
He led the league, He led the team and picks,
you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
So when you guys, when you guys come in and
do that and can do more than just your job,
and you do it with so much passion and you're
successful because no one expected you to be who you are.
Maybe you expected, but when you got drafted, or did
you get drafted, Okay, you went seventh round, damn it,
that's basically a free agent bullshit.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But you know what a free agent because you don't
have that dude two years huh exactly.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
But no one expected you or they brought you in.
They didn't expect you to turn into the only person
that can believe that is a dog. And you got
to believe in yourself because basically, when you get drafted
that late, you're coming from another position. You're basically there
for tackling dummy. You're there forgot, You're there for guys
like somebody established like myself. He beat up on exactly
so for you to make it, you know, you a
(09:26):
dog right there, and then to put out there and perform.
And then you had some of the top corners out
there that didn't want to see him. So that right
there you fit in the dog. Tom Brady was a
dog dog because from day one he came in there
and he wanted to compete. He gonna talk shit, and
I'm telling him, we used to light him up, but
he coming right back at you as a dog on head,
(09:47):
bunch you. He gonna fight, you, come at you. And
he was not no pump. And that's what you know.
Then he ain't no pump right there. That was like
a compliment. Oh he ain't no pump.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
Nowadays he ain't no bitch. He ain't no pump, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So that was Tom.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I look at like receivers. Like again, Hine's war was
a dog. He wasn't fast, he wasn't it. But he
will sit there and rock you. You know, he will
blindside the ship out at you too. So you always
got to keep your head on the swivel. So I
look at at the tough guys, even even you know,
like I said, te O, Randy Moss was a dog,
you know what I mean, because he was tough. Chris Carter,
(10:23):
Michael Irvin, he will fight you all damn day too,
you know what I mean. So I look at so
many tough guys, but like just skill everybody and a dog.
Speaker 10 (10:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Are you born with a dog or can you develop
the dog? Because I'm sitting here looking at my seven
year old daughter and I'm seeing some of this attitude
and effort on the field right now. Yeah, And I'm like,
I don't know if we got dog in her.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
You know what my mom, my mom told me. You know,
when I was younger, she said, you know, you used
to get your ass with you know, you wasn't you
wasn't that tough. But I remember one time that I
came home righting and she made me go back out
there and fight, you know, like you're gonna you're gonna
go out there and fight. And I started development. So yes,
you can develop a dog, and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You can develop dog. Yeah, helop the dog development. You
could be born into it too.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
T shirt that's a shirt developed.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's a tie log tea shirt. That's right.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
Maybe I develged over time and you get that confidence
and then it's like when you realize that you got
to believe in yourself. That was my whole thing, was
always believing in myself what no matter what anybody thinks.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's that's what a dog is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
A dog is someone who believes in himself no matter
what the situation.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right, absolutely the situation is against you. If the world
is against.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You, still still think you're gonna do it is when
you stay ready, you.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Ain't gotta get ready now.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Andrew Whitworth breaks down that final drive that won the
Rams Super Bowl fifty six.
Speaker 10 (11:49):
That drive though, with Stafford and cup Man unfreaking believable
that you found your guy. They meet every morning at
five am on Wednesdays, and it came to life right
there and my process over results.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Baby, Now, how was how was matt right before that drive?
Was he? What was his temper? Like?
Speaker 10 (12:07):
How you know sing I'm gonna do just I mean
not that you're scared of Matthew. He's real sensitive about
matt so we call him Matthew.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He's like McConaughey is the same way serious.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Kelly's gonna she's gonna post on. I'm just telling you
I like gonna get you on Insta. If you don't,
you gotta call him, Matthew. I'm sorry, Matthew.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Matthew very serious, but still.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So how was Maddie before that?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Hey, you're like me, I'm calling Mathe the rest of
the day.
Speaker 10 (12:39):
No, anyways, So no, you know what's wild is like
when people talk about the game, right, like that's the
things I actually remember.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It is like him walking in the huddle.
Speaker 10 (12:48):
So you know, if people don't realize this, the quarterback
is always on the side of the team like, so
you know, he's communicating the coach all those things. So
obviously our sideline is away from me, being the left tackle,
and so Matthew's over on that side, and so we're
looking dead into each other every time he's getting a
call from Sehana and kind of see Sean in the
background making the calls, and I see Matthew like looking
up at us, and.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I never him getting in the huddle and he was like, hey.
Speaker 10 (13:08):
Man, let's let's go do something special right here, you know,
And there was just a look in his eye Like
I always said this, Like Matthew to me is like
John Wayne, like he just does like he's like this
cowboy bad dude in the sense of he's not a
cowboy type guy, but he's just a tough never hurt,
never says a word like it's hit. You can literally
like oh like nothing, won't say a word like not
(13:29):
blaming anybody, never tell you a thing like they're draining
his knee, his hip, whatever, Like he doesn't care. Like
the dude's just tough and that and that's who he is.
And so you're just like in the huddle, it's like,
let's go do something special.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Boys.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
You know, it's like yes, sir, you know, like nobody's
touching you think of a necessary roughness if you will
the movie, like nobody's gonna touch you. You know, like
that's literally how you felt with Matthew Stafford in thehuddle.
And you know that drive obviously him in Cup really
special and every play you know, it's like that. You know,
I look on the screen, it's like, man, it's fifteen
play drivet Gosh, it felt like four months. You know
(14:03):
it literally like every we're like, oh, we found a
first down. Oh we found a first down. Let's keep going,
Let's keep going, let's keep going. So it was a wild,
wild deal but I think really special, you know, you
always think those things in the way they end to
have those two guys, the relationship they formed, the bond
and commitment they made to meet every single morning. We
also that season had what we called the Breakfast Club.
(14:24):
Meet Stafford and Cup and our wives would meet every
single Tuesday morning for breakfast that whole entire season at
Soho Ando Soho and Malibu.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We met every week.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
They'd have it like they were all ready for us
every Tuesday morning, and it really became a great bonding
experience for us. And we even did it the week
of the super Bowl. And the roughest one was the
Tuesday after the super Bowl when we haven't none of
us have slept it all.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But it was like, hey, let's have.
Speaker 10 (14:48):
One more and we met that morning and it was like, dude,
what a journey. This whole year we won a super Bowl.
Now here we are sitting here having breakfast again. It
was a special year.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And that last drive pretty much summed up that team.
Fifteen plays, you know, executing and gotta have it situations,
key third downs, your go to players, making go to plays.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
One of the best note looks ever, but not the
I mean he invented it.
Speaker 10 (15:17):
You know, Patrick said this, like I know the people,
but like mahomes Is actually said, like I grew up
watching Stafford like throw the like he is the I
know nobody like talks about that much. Like he is
the guy who like we've done that for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, Joe, Joe used to do it a little bit, yeah,
a flat, a little little flat.
Speaker 10 (15:32):
But you know he kind of took it a little
crazy a couple times a year across the damn middle.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, one doesn't look across the middle. It's kind of like,
what the fuck is this guy doing next?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Super Bowl champ Cooper Cup discusses the greatness of Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Now, one guy you're probably gonna be missing that was
on this team, Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I mean that's how how like special is just to
watch him in.
Speaker 11 (15:54):
Practice, Yeah, he's I mean, there's nothing like what he
was able to do. Yeah, the chances that his it
was really like, his ability to choose win, to take
risks and take his shot was unbelievable because of his preparation,
because of the you know, his uh preparation going into games,
(16:15):
and then it was when he did take his shot,
and it wasn't there his ability to then counter and
like close gaps still, right, he'd play out of his
gap more than anyone ever, but he would make sure
that he was doing his job and closing it if
he to go as an issue, you know, like yeah,
but he wasn't he two gap, but he'd he'd run
around you. He's so fast, so quick, Like it's like
(16:38):
I'm gonna get past you and I'm gonna make things
around on the other side.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Now, was he a guy that like lived in the
weight room.
Speaker 11 (16:43):
He was always I think so a d's thing, like
he secretly wants to be like like he wants to
be Dwayne Johnson, Like that's where that's where his Yeah,
he wants to be that. He wants to be the rock.
And he's so he spends so much time lifting and
it's not even like like functional lifts sometimes you know
(17:04):
it's I've actually worked out with him. I went and
worked out with him one time, so iys like, hey,
the off season, that's like you get to work out
them together. Tells me the time, show up an hour
and a half straight of arms, an hour and a half,
you almy muscles up in your.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Arms and there's not a lot like seven.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
Yeah, that's saying like bicep, tricep, Yeah, shoulder maybe if
you count that as part of your arm and the
forums for an.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Hour and a half, I mean he looked like it.
Speaker 11 (17:30):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying, Like, you don't need
to be doing arms for an hour.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And a half. No, but when your baby rhino, you
do that, dude look like a straight rhino. He is
unbelievably strong.
Speaker 11 (17:42):
And then obviously all the things on top of it
that you have as a football player where there's like
he just loves working out, loves lifting, and that just
it was an extra little part on top of the
fact that he is, you know, I think the best
defensive player of all time, and the skills and all
the stuff stuff that he had going for him in
that regard.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I'm gonna d tackles in the history of the NFL
have had abs.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's not a lot.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
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