Michael Rubin on the 2024 Olympic Basketball Semifinals | Team USA vs. Serbia - Games with Names

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You got Brady to come out of retirement.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Look, flag football is the fastest ground sport in the
world right now. I think being on the Olympic stage
of twenty twenty eight, it's gonna be great. You're gonna
have the best players in the NFL playing in that game.
A guy like Tom Brady come out of retirement. He's
working on every day now because he wants to make sure.
He wants to make sure he wins that. But he's
gonna have some tough, tough competition from some young bucks playing.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Anything can happen with Tom. That's crazy, Benjamin Button Brady,
Anything can happen. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman,
They're Jack and Kyler, and we're on a mission to
find the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode,
we are covering the twenty twenty four Men's Olympic basketball
semifinal Serbia versus Team USA with fanatics CEO Philly Legend

(00:48):
and a man that's probably best friends with one of
your favorite rappers, Michael Rubin, and we're talking his wild
twenty eight to three game story.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
He was pretty dejected, to be honest, Look, what's the
lesson you never give up period.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Challenging me to compete at Fanatics Fest.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Are you training for next year yet? I'm rehabbing right now.
If you end up being the most pathetic patriot, that's
just like, that's an embarrassment. And his best sports moment
with O. B. J Odell talking here was like stunned.
I caught the ball, he said, Rube, the only athletic
thing you've ever done.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
And we do Top five jerseys of all time in
the Chill Zone presented by Coors, like you gotta stick
around to the end. Let's go Games with Names of
production of iHeartRadio. August eight, twenty twenty four, Bercy Arena
bet E France.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Down double digits in the fourth quarter. We need a
good old fashioned American comeback. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Thank god we got stiff freaking Curry.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
This is two thy twenty four Olympic Semifinals.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Welcome to Games with Names. Today we are looking at
the USA VERUS Serbia game, twenty twenty four Olympics Men's
semi final, legendary game with Michael Rubin. Michael Rubin in
one sentence, why did you pick this game? Well?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I think the game picked me. I want to go
to the Olympics. But I'll tell you one thing that
was one of the greatest moments every of you. Just
think about surreal things that happened that I got to
just witness firsthand. I mean, I thought your twenty eight
three comeback was pretty fucking special. This was pretty competitive.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
A semi final of an Olympics is being compared to
the twenty eight to three game, which at the end
of the episode we will see where this ranks and
you will see where the twenty eight to three ranks.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean, they were both pretty special, special, They're both
pretty special.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's just the greatest game of all time.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I mean, I could tell you at the beginning of
the game, I said, I wish I could bet on
sports because I'm you know, I'm not allowed to bet
on sports. And I said, like I would put everything
I had, which is maybe I should have bet on sports,
not what you have. Yeah, yeah, And I made that
joke before the game, and at halftime, Travis Scott was

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we went to the game together. I'm like, Trav, you
gotta hype these guys off like this on your shoulders.
We cannot leave her like they're gonna lose and I
remember looking at Travis and he was jumping up and
down for about a quarter straight, about three four feet
in there every second, and he was and he was
just going crazy like it was. Watching them come back
was absolutely incredible. I mean, I'll never forget that for

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the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I can't wait to dive into it. But let's let's
start off. You're the CEO Fanatics Ultra boom in sports company.
Explain to us what Fanatics is to our listener.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So, we originally started in the fanger business, and that's
what I think a lot of people think of us for.
But today Fanatics is really the biggest digital sports platform
in the world. We're in three primary businesses. You know,
when you go to buy fangear, you often buy it
from us, whether it's the Fanatics site, or the NFL shop,
or the Patriot store or MLB shop or you know,
really you know, many of the best sports properties in

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the world. We power and operate their e commerce stores,
but also at the flagship Fanatics store. We also own Lids,
which has fourteen hundred stores around the world. We operate
lots of venue stores, lots of college bookstores. So if
you went to the Notre Dame bookstore, you went to
the San Francisco forty nine ers venue. That's all operated

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by Fanatics. So we started the fanger business and then
the last five years we got into both the collectibles
business and the betting and gaming business. Collectibles business, we
own tops, were the official manufacturer of Major League Baseball
trading cards, the NBA. We're launching the NFL in April, WWE, UFC,
F one Champions League, Premier League, Marvel Star Wars Disney.

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So we make a few trading cards Jesus. Yeah, we
had a lot of trading a lot of trading cards, which,
by the way, we've been innovating and growing that business
like crazy and you know, just finding out so many
ways to make it better for fans. And then we
got to the betting. In the gaming business. Two years ago,
people told us we had no shot. I love them.
People told me I have no shot, and we're now
the fast growing sportsbook can see on the country. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, And you didn't even mention Fanatics Fest, which I
got to a ten last year and it was actually
the first time Rob and I had a guest on
Dudes on Dudes, which is under the nuthouse.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
We are here in the nuthouse. It doesn't seem that
nutty yet I want to I'll feel better with more nuttiness,
Like I'm only comfortable in complete nuttiness right now. We
got a little movies. I've seen that of you from
time to time.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
But getting back to the Fanatics Fest, not the nuthouse.
It was it was extraordinary. It was It was one
of the coolest things I've ever seen. Because we've all
heard about the comic cons of these cons that con
and it was the first time I got to go
to a place and see sports being celebrated. How I mean,
where did this love for sports come from? Because it's

(06:15):
genuinely in your blood. I see you at all these
different types of games. We're talking about Olympics games. You're
on the court side of all the basketball Philly games.
To see mister Krafts box. Where does this love of
sports come from?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know? For me, I always gravitate to what you're
good at. And by the way, sports I was terribo at.
I was like the opposite of view, Like I grew
up one of the world's worst students in the world,
Like I barely made it out of high school. People
think I lie and just embellishing when I said that,
But I was truly one of the worst students in
the world. You know, I took my sat is. I

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got seven eighty combined. It's very hard to do that poorly.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, when Grunk got that on his mask, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And by if if Bronc is getting on a half
of his square, I mean you could see how pathetic
that is. He's actually like man with numbers. Listen, if
he's getting double what I got. I mean, you could
see how bad of a student I was. I mean,
can you have if Gronk is getting double Michael Rubin,
you could see, like I'm hopeless. Okay, as bad as
student as I was, I was really that bad of

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an athlete. But I always loved business. I always love sports.
So for me, the ability to take my love for
business and my love for sports and compement together, that
was just such a great opportunity. So I've been in
the sports business in one form or another my entire
you know kind of life. From Team Up. I started
with you know, ski tuning shops and ski shops in

(07:34):
my you know, when I was twelve years old, you know,
obviously very well known story at this point. But you know,
I've been in the sports business now, I'm it's a
cringe thing about it for forty one years. Wow. So
and it's it's it's look, it's such an honor to
do it. So when we had the idea to start
Fanatics Fest, it was really about how do we do
something incredible for sports fans. And I'll tell you a

(07:58):
lot of times there were things that seemed obvious, but
there's just not the right person to organize it. Because
Fanatics works with, you know, most of the great sports
properties in the world, you know, five thousand incredible athletes,
all the players associations, we were the person that could
really convene this. And you know, walking into Comic Con,
my action is like, why don't they have this for
sports fans? And the answer was there was no one

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to organize it.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
And so it's hard to get everyone to go.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's actually, by the way, it was a great story
because when we got in the trading card and collectibles
business and won all the rights in twenty twenty one,
I went to this thing called the National I don't
know if you've ever been to It's like the big
you know, once a year trading card show, and it
was in Atlantic Citney. I walked into the show and
I had like kind of two thoughts. One was, this

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is pretty spectacular. There were like one hundred and fifty
thousand fans. They're like, my god, what a incredible You know,
the best sports fans in the world are collectors of
trading cards. There's no better sports fans that. Then if
I go out to buy your trading card, I'm a
true I am a true super fan, okay, especially by
your trading So, you know, I had such respect for

(09:04):
the fandom from you know, from these one hundred and
fifty thousand people being at this trading card show. But
then I felt like it was something out of the
nineteen eighties, and I'm like, I don't understand why we
can't do better. It's by the way, the National is
a great show, but it's very old school, very traditional,
made for traditional collectors. And so I went to Comic
Con that October in New York. I'm like, this is incredible.

(09:29):
Why do we not have this of sports fans. I
literally said to my chief of staff, like, find me
the guy who runs comic Con, bring him into the office.
I brought him in and said, hey, buddy, you know,
great to meet you. By the way, you're gonna have
a new career. We're gonna do We're gonna do Sporticon
And that was like the original, you know, kind of
just like we're just gonna take what Comic Con doesn't
do it for sports fans. And I'll tell you, we
were probably the only company in the world that could
get every sports league to show up. You know, all

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these incredible athletes to show up, and everyone who comes
says one thing, like what a great give back it
is to fans. And we're gonna have two hundred thousand
people there this year, in our third year, and you
have the biggest stars in the world from Lebron James
to Tom Brady, that people in culture like you know,
Jay Z and Travis Scott to Kevin Hart and across.
I think we had three hundred and fifty the biggest

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athletes celebrities are in every world. Everyone was there.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
The Wrizzler was there. Wrizzler, he was Streamers of Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I consider Whizzler to have more athletics stools like mine,
you know, I think I hit more. I think that's
why that's why I want to compete in the fanats
games against That would be epic.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh my god, I gotta see that, you know. And
it really did feel like you were celebrating sport with
the people that celebrate sports.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I don't know if that makes sense. I'm not a
poet or it makes but it kind of sounds poetic.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
First, we did this for the first time in June
of twenty four, and then we ran it back in
June or twenty five. This year, it's actually gonna be
one hundred percent of the line with the World Cup Finals,
so it's going to be July sixteenth to nineteenth, and
which is amazing to have everyone from the World Cup
around the world. We're gonna get the soccer guys. We're
gonna have a lot of sun points. Absolutely, That's why
we did it that weekend. We want to make sure

(11:03):
that Bob listen, You're going to see a lot of
the biggest soccer stars in the world there for sure.
And you know, for us, the thing that was most
incredible to me was the reaction I saw from the
biggest stars in the world saying I love the way
I'm connecting with my fans, Like, I love how great

(11:26):
this is to you know, to build the things that
are also important to them, but also you know how
they connect with their fans because you know, when you
when you're playing a game and you know you're the
biggest stars in the world, you're locked into that game, okay,
but you know when you could celebrate the people that
are your biggest fans, I mean, it's pretty incredible. So
you know, for me, it's the hardest thing we do
all year. It's also the most fun thing we do

(11:46):
all year, like to pull everyone together throughout the world
and we own social media and the Internet for that week,
and you see some of the craziest things in the
world happened there, and it's just I mean, Katie, do
you got traded on stage there this year? I mean, Katie, unbelievable. Yeah,
he's on stage. I found out he was going to Houston.
I mean, it was it was insane, And you know,
I remember looking up by the way at the you know,

(12:08):
jay Z does a forty to forty pop up and
then I remember looking up and I see Jay Brady Brown,
I think Jade and Daniels to CJ Strade, Michael Parsons
and like every was talking like this is in the
middle of a sports festival. This is insane. It's like,
it's it's pretty it's it's it's pretty great. And we
worked so hard all year to do this to just

(12:29):
get everyone to show up. But people love doing it,
so I expect you we were just talking. It sounds
like last year you had some some some medical conditions
that held you back from goal from really winning the
Fanatic Games. Now, by the life, I'll tell you when
we started the Finats Games, if everyone who doesn't know
what it is, we took fifty of the best athletes, celebrities,

(12:51):
artist stars in the world against fifty you know, average
Joe fans and see how they would kind of.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Compete, and and the activities are off. You get like
a hockey shot, you get like six shots, and you
got to put it in like a washer machine, so
you got to hit like the pitch machine where you
got to hit the strike zone and you get a
certain amount like it's a bunch of fun. Ship the
wrestling Intro. I participated in that one, participated in that

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about you training for next year yet I'm rehabbing right now.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I need you fully I mean, by the way, the
most disappointing thing to me was having Brady talk so
much shit about how he was going to win it.
And I really thought, I said, forty eight years old,
he's one of these young bucks, gonna take him. And
when he won it, this ship I had to hear
about he shit scripted, scripted. I had something something, guys like,

(13:49):
you made this easy for him. I made the hockey competition.
I watched him throw baseball, so I thought he was.
I watched the first thing he did on like he's out,
this is over, and then I look at that end
of the day, he's a the top of ranks.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I'm like, what, Yeah, everything I think Gronk w in
the hockey competition.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I think Gronk did. We were there with him. Yeahronrox,
there's no one. He came to fax Fest the first year.
I gotta tell you something. You talk about somebody who
loves his fans loves I mean, nobody loves his fans
more than Gronk, I mean, and watching him have so
much fun with you know, one hundred thousand plus, you know,
crazy sports fans was incredible. This year. We did the

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we did the little stunt where we might have had
and no one knew what was going on. We had
a trophy, a Lombardi trophy that that Tommy threw to
Gronk that we might have self destruct in the air,
and that that wasn't real. That wasn't real. Oh no,
old on, hold on, the crazy thing?

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Is wrestling real? Wrestling's real for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, didn't you see the Travis Scott short Wrestling is real?
So the crazy thing was I just said, I didn't
I went to grab tom I didn't tell him that
we're going to bring him in. They were gonna be
like twenty people dressed up as Gronk with their helmets on,
and so we us we brought him in there. He
had no idea what was going on. I said, hey,
you got to pick the real Bronca. And he's going

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through and he's a glittering these people one by one.
You're too short, you're too on athletic looking, you're too fat,
He's Gronk ain't here, and Gronk was there. So he
was like stunned by that. They said, hey, you got
to throw this. We got to try and replicate the
you know what what you did in the boat. You
gotta try throw this Lombardi trophy. Remember when he was
when he was drunk. You don't remember your saying I

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wasn't there. Yeah. Thanks, Yeah, Michael, you're saying because you
dranking too much.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
No, because I that was was Foxboro.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I was just seeing if you remember Foxboro forever? Yeah,
I mean it's that's loyalty, that's to love, that's right.
So so when he threw the trophy, they had like
a little thing of itself destruct that. I also like,
how'd you get that Lombardi trophy? Like, because I think
there's only two actual Lombardi trophies, And so they thought
it was real, and like there was a panic going
through the league office that somehow we got the Lombardi

(15:55):
trophy out of there, like these guys have broken it.
So I thought it was just a prank. Oh my god,
go to one by some problem. Yeah. So o my go.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
You got fanatics fast, You got fanatics. You've been in
sports business for forty one years. What are the teams
you grew up loving.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
You're from Philly, Yeah, I grew up a diehard Sixers fan.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Diehard we used to own part of them.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah. I was their allowed to show to the sixers
until it just became such a conflict with fanatics, and
I want to put fanatics first. What we did and
put the fan first and everything we did. And I was,
I was. I grew up a Phillies fan, a little
bit of an Eagles fan. But I'll tell you, and
you know this well, you're you're You're a Foxboro forever.
If you grow up and you move around, you actually

(16:37):
it kind of kills the fans.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Now I'm a fan of my friends. Yeah, you know,
who do I want to do? Well? Whom I really
invested in? What? Who owns teams? And friends? Like you
kind of just root for your friends, you stop, It
kind of kills a little bit of low to I mean,
I know when you know, I'm sure when you know
a friend of yours goes to another team, you're rooting
for that friend, not the team.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I mean, I once an athlete, got to once you
get to college and you start seeing guys that you
played with, played against go to teams Like I was
a diehard Niners fan, and it kind of just went
out the window after that, you know. And then I
was like, oh, I want to see you know, I
liked I liked Tom Brady because he was from the
Bay Area. I in the Patriots. I liked uh, you know,

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I liked the Raiders because of Charlie Frye and I
used to throw with them, like it always became who
you were invested with. Like as far as friendships, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Because the average fan, I respect this. They get me. Like,
you know, when I rooted for the Patriots in its
Super Bowl, Philly fans want to kill me. Kill you, right,
they want to kill me. But I'm like, you know,
Robert Crat's one of my closest friends.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's like when I when when someone left a team
and I rooted for that person. But to me, you
gotta always stick with your people. That's that's that's that's
the real that's the real truth.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
How about those Patriots? Yeah, baby, how about those Patriots?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Back?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Honestly, on a serious note, it's incredible. Mister Craft's looking
like a fucking genius. He hired Parcels, he hired Pete Carroll,
hires Bill. Now he's got Vrabel. I mean, r K
K all the way knows ball.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Listen, it's super exciting. Nine and two. Long Way to go,
Long Way to Go. It's all about as you know,
I remember, and I just got to watch you do it.
You'll remember this like it was for the rest of
your life. You guys would win the AFC Championship and
not even flat she didn't cary you like, who cares
AFC Championship. That means shit, unless we win the super Bowl,

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we haven't done anything. So I remember the amount of
AFC games I watched you win, and it was like
there wasn't ever any excitement. So until you win the
super Bowl again, doesn't matter. But that's what he's focused on.
And I think, certainly, I don't think anyone would have
predicted at the beginning of the season that the Patriots
would be nine to two and you know, talking about
what they can do in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
But the guy calling the shots might be calling the
right shots.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, listen, as you know, And it's very easy when
you really get to see this inside, you can pick
who are the perennial winners, who are the perennial losers,
and who's like kind of perennial. I'm kind of mediocre,
you know. The New England Patriots led by Robert John
and the craft, they're perennial winners, okay, And they know
how to run a great organization. They know how to

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make the right choices. When they get it wrong, they
know how to correct it. And I think that goes
to being a great owner. You know, I'm always gonna
make the best decision I can and also if I
didn't get it right, I'm gonna fix it. And that's
what I do in business every day because we fuck
things up all the time. We screw you know that.
But the part is own your mistakes and get them
right as soon as you can.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's like in sport, Scottie O'Brien special Teams legend coordinator
for us, would always say a play, whether good or bad,
is a bit of experience, and the good ones don't
make the same mistakes twice. You're gonna make mistakes, you
got to be able to fix thembsolutely. What So, what

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is your most prized collectible that you have? I mean,
the owner of Fanatics, the founder of Fanatics, the guy
who started sports everywhere. What is the best card memorabilia
thing that you.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Cherish the most? So I've been asked this, your holy
great I've been asked this a lot, and it's actually
a really funny story.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, you can't use my card, not me, not mean,
I know it was never.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
It was it was your card. It was a special
was this one you wrote to me, you know after
your first touch up? No, so owning that I'm not
the most athletic human being in planet Earth. I do
this small party each year at my house called the
White Party. And there was a flag football game that
broke out right the day before they the White Party

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in twenty four and I remember this, this, this on
this one I enjoy. This is probably the only good
athletic moment in my life. CJ shrod He drew up
a play. CJ said, like, you know, you know, here
you go. Here's the play, and and Odell was guarding me,
and like CJ, he I mean, he threw me a bullet,

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hit me right in the chest, rammed it with everything
I had, right in front of with Odell right there.
Odell talked to me, he was like stunned. I caught
the ball and CJ brought me the ball back and
I walked back to my house. He said, Rube, the
only athletic thing you've ever done, and that that is
in my office. That isn't that that that that that's
the that's the only real for me. Yeah, represents a

(21:28):
good athletic moment. I mean, I could tell you it
was some multimillion dollar card I own, and I owned
many of them, but for me, it was for me,
it was I'll never want to forget that catch. No,
by the way, right afterward, Kevin Hart guarded me and
literally I tripped right in front of him and he
intercepted the ball. That was really bad.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, but that that's what's also really cool about sports memorbilia.
The value people have for certain things is predicated on
their value and what it means to them, and and
you never know what it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Now. Look, I've become such a big collector. I grew
up a collector of trading cards. When I was ten
years old, eleven years old, twelve years old, I was
always buying and selling baseball cards, sell them to my
friend's parents because they had the money. And I've always
been in the cards when I was a kid, and
I really got back into it. So I've bought some
incredible cards over the last several years. You know, cards

(22:25):
that I think a lot of big collectors would have
but also cards that are really special. Right now, what
I like to collect are people that I'm close with
their best cards. So how do I have, you know, X,
Y Z athlete's best card because I'm invested in their career,
I believe in what they're doing. I also we made this.
We came up with this innovation in trading cards that

(22:48):
is probably the best innovation that I think has ever
happened in trading cards. And it's when is sure you
know when a player you know what people really chasing
trading cards or rookie cards. Okay, it's someone's most rare
key card. And so TOPS came up with the idea
for whenever a player plays the first game in the
pro so you play your first game in the NFL,

(23:09):
your first game in Major League Baseball, your first game
in the NBA in the NBA, to create a debut
patch that will go on your jersey only for that
first game, and then right when the game's over, we
take the jersey off. We put it in a truly
one on one card. There's only one in the world, okay.
And so if you think this year about the draft,
whether it's VJ. Edgecumbe, whether it's Cooper Flagg, whether it's
Ace Bailey, whether it's Dylan Harper, like the chance to

(23:32):
get those guys, you know, debut patches, Like, I'm obsessed
with those cards. We actually had them in the NFL
the last couple of years. You know, we had Jaden Daniels,
you know CJ's, you know Caleb Williams, you know their
debut patches. So you think about how special those are.
Could you imagine we had Otani's you know, debut wasn't
made then, if you had Brady's, if you had Jordan's,

(23:54):
I mean, you know Otani's debut patch. I bet he's
a twenty five million dollar card today if it exists.
That doesn't exist, Jesus. Okay, if you have the one
of one car, because there's one in the world. This
is the first time someone played. I mean, could you
imagine we had your debut patch by the way, no,
I mean it would be very clean. It.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Actually, my first games.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Preseason become preseason.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I had nine catches for a Hundie Sunlight first game light.
Oh is this the place a stutter go in cut?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Okay for me? Now is it? It's pretty good? Right?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Change in direction.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
But people are stunned by this. We're moving the chains,
moving the chains. I mean, do you see how happy
I was right there? Like this was a good moment
for me. That's why, just.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Like I say, Rubes, people got to convert third downs
for other people's to score touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
That was a conversion right there. Hey, you know what,
Now the next play was off. I don't I think
I put that up too because I really like making
fun of myself. So the next one was just abysmal.
So I didn't want to show something good without showing
something bad. But there is one coming up. I don't
know if it's there. I don't know if it's there,
but when you see it, it's really there's one with

(25:13):
Kevin Hard. It's that one went a lot more viral
because obviously it was me embarrassing myself. Oh here it is.
That was horrible.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
He flipped your hips on you.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I mean, I think I did your hips. I want
to ir right after it was It was very bad.
It was very very bad.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
He didn't Kevin though, he tore his hamstring when he
raised Stephen Ridley.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
That was pretty bad as well.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
That was pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
My friends have bad athletic moments. I enjoy that. I
like to be able to make nothing better.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
There's something about that when like in a like a
healthy way. Oh yeah, not like he gets seriously hurt.
But if any friend.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Gets he did get seriously hurt, So I shouldn't have it.
Just look when Kevin Hart's trying to be all tough
and raise somebody and then he's you know, he's facetiming
me from a wheelchair. You cannot have used the shit
out of here. You can't.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, he's gonna dish it out. He gonna dish it,
and I'm gonna dish even more.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
You were sitting next to RKK in the twenty eight
to three game. How was my guy handling that? What
was it?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Like? Give us something in there?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
What was was it?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
He was pretty dejected. If I'm going to be honest, Yeah,
I remember we had a private conversation. So I just
share the the uh a small part of it. At
halftime and you, as everyone knows, you were down twenty
one three and he was. He was not as optimistic
as and I was given. I was given this speed

(26:45):
like you're winning this game. It's only twenty one three.
Don't worry about it. At twenty eight three. I'm like, yeah,
you're fucked. We were all there. Yeah, that was I'll
tell you, if you'd say, what are some of the
in my life like memories that you just remember for
ever sitting next to him and Jonathan and watching what
you guys did, I mean, that will be something. I'm

(27:05):
sure you'll tell that story probably another thousand times in
your life at least, you know, and just you know,
getting to see that, I mean, thank you for giving
me a good moment to inspire to. But you know what,
that's inspirational that here's the reality when we I remember
my daughter who that was sixteen, right, so my teens, right,

(27:26):
So my daughter was she was ten or eleven at
that point. She called me. She was like crying that
the Patriot's going to lose. I remember saying like, Kylie,
it's not over yet. Like she called me to Emily,
I'm telling her, like, it's not over yet. And you know,
look what's the lesson. You never give up, period, And
that's you know, that's what you guys did, and that's
what we do in business every day. We're always unrelenting

(27:47):
to make sure that we're pushing for the best poss welcome.
Until you've lost something, mathematically it's over. You've never lost.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Now, do you remember when the spirits got lifted in
that room? Was there a certain play, maybe the tree
flowers sack, maybe tower high tower sack, maybe a catch,
maybe a catch.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I think you might have. You might have had a
few special contributions to that game that got people very motivated.
I mean, even, by the way, even when you got
to twelve, I think it still seemed pretty unlikely. I think,
And then I'm such an optimist to push but also
always thinking of calculating every worst case scenario. I kept thinking,

(28:25):
was one of these two point conversions isn't happening. It's tough.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
And the crazy thing about that is we had two
point conversions you every night we had We installed six
that week, Ernie, shout out Ernie. Which usually you go
into a game with maybe two or three. But for
some odd reason, the football gods came down and said,
we're gonna put in.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Six this week. We get football gods were good to us.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Either, the football gods were good to have.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Now by the way, they've taken a few away. They've
taken a few unfair ones away too, so I kind
of feel like you kind of got evened out in
the end. That's sports. That's exactly why he plays a business,
for sure. That's life. I feel like I got more wisdom.
I feel like I've got some more wisdom coming from you.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know. I'm just trying to get on your level, grubs.
I'm just trying to get on your level.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's go
back into time, and let's go to August eighth, twenty
twenty four, and let's jump around and see what was
going on in the world. Number one movie was Deadpool
and Wolverine. Never saw that one, did you? No, it
didn't either.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Number one song a bar song by Shaboozie.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I know that song well. And the reason I know
that song well at the way, I had never heard
of Shaboozie at this point. Yeah, he wanted to come
do that song with the White Party, and I wasn't sure.
And then like everyone kept telling me, they loved me.
He's a great guy. So he came, and then he
did it four times in a row on stage, and then
he walked off and threw up because he drank too much.

(29:56):
And then he went right back to doing shots and
doing the song again. So I kind I had a
lot of respect for him.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Sometimes you got to pull the trigger to dude.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah it was it was he put up.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's incredible. Super Bowl champions were the Kansas City chiefs
Lamar Jackson was the MVP. Celtics took the NBA Champion,
chip In Jokic took the m v P in basketball.
How was Paris at this time? This for the Olympics,
Paris was incredible, had to be.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
It was. It was actually incredible. And you know, look,
when you're in the sports business, you're fortunate enough to
see so many different things, and you go to so
many different things. It's kind of you know, it's part
of you know, our day job. That was like, this
is incredible. You felt every minute of that. You just
honored to to, you know, get to see it live.
And you know, watching what Team USA did was you know,

(30:50):
no one would have thought it would have been so hard,
but at the end of the day, they got they
got the gold medal. I actually, have you asked me
about other pieces of memorability that I have that I love.
I have this picture of KD wrapped in the American
flag giving me a hug at the end of the game.
It's just like it's just such a cool like, you know,
it's like it's sits in my off If you look

(31:11):
at that, you're like, what a moment. This is just
such a great you know, such a great moment.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
You know what, there's probably nothing like that feeling to
get to go compete for your country for the world's best,
which is exciting because flag football is now going to
be an Olympic sport? Are we going to take that?
And you're are you putting on the flag football game?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And we're putting on the flag football Game together with
Tom Brady and Saudi and we're you know, we're super
excited to be part of that, and that's going to
be broadcast on Fox. I think you're gonna have the
best players in the NFL playing in that game. Look,
flag football is the fastest growing sport in the world
right now. I think being on the Olympic stage of
twenty twenty, it's going to be great. Do I think

(31:54):
that America will take it? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But I get scared with that.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, well I get scared with everything until you get
the w I mean exactly, if you don't have that
fear then someone's gonna, you know, bad things happen. So
I think you always got to go into it not
being arrogant, but being humble.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
But it's also it's a completely different sport. This isn't football.
I don't even know what the rules are. I don't
even know if our guys will know what the rules are.
You probably can't do half the things that we want
to do.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
You know. I'll tell you I've learned a lot about
flag football in the past couple of months, and I'll
tell you a lot of the younger guys, they've got
a lot of experience playing flag football. They know really
how it works. What I'm excited for is our flag football,
to watch the competition, to see a guy like Tom
Brady come out of retirement. He's working on every day
now because he wants to make sure that he comes home,

(32:44):
you know, as the winner of that he got you know,
round robin game, you know, three teams competing. He wants
to make sure he wins that. But he's gonna have
some he's gonna have some tough, tough competition from some
young bucks playing. We know all those young bucks we
haven't announced to the other quarterbacks are yet. But I
I can tell you you better be working on a
sprinting as well.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
So the sprinting is a thing for the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I mean, I think you gotta be I mean, flag
football is a game. You gotta be fast. It's not
just passing accuracy. You gotta be fast here.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
My guy did get a better forty time in his
forties than he did in his twenties. So anything happen
with Tom's crazy Benjamin Button Brady, anything happen.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I agree, And I tell him all the time I'm
rooting against him just to motivate him, but I'm absolutely
rooting for him. Got it the goat, absolutely, man. But
we gotta keep the pressure on him too, Like could
you imagine I said to him, By the way, so
everyone's going over together. On the plane, there's like a
you know, playing with a couple of hundred seats that
everyone is playing their families. So everyone's going to the
game together. I've told him if he doesn't win, he's

(33:42):
going back commercial coach middle seat.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Seems right. I think he's got a couple of friends,
though he got a couple of knows.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
We're going to make sure to get some pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Could you imagine Tom Brady in the back of Economy
in the middle seat.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
You better win this game in eighteen hours? How far
is make sure we have some stops, a lot in front,
You got some connections.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Oh my, he's he's gonna be fired up for this.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
He's definitely by the way, there's nobody who likes to
compete more than Tom real one. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
He's definitely got Alex working on his arm right now.
He's doing his little the Dak Prescott thing, you know
that thing that Tom House and tb that little hip thing.
He's doing that all day in the mirror. Now he's
got a couple of veins in his arm because he's
been lifting weights.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Oh vascular. He's looking looking young, He's looking good. Jeez,
let's go, Let's go Brady. He seems very excited.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I mean, who doesn't get excited to see the goat
throw the pass?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I'm with you. Do you think it's fair that if
he didn't leave victorious, that he should have to go
back coach middle seat Economy? I mean, I can't bite
the hand that fed me. I think there's gonna be pressure.
He's got to come home with it. He's got to
come home.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
He's got he's gont I mean, he's gonna put so
much pressure on himself. This guy is the most pressure
giving himself guy in the world. Like I played with
them for ten years or eleven years. I mean, this guy,
he doesn't need any more motivation. Anyone that can get
motivated playing in his twentieth year against a team that's
one in eight in week nine, like, he don't need

(35:17):
no more motivation. This guy's motivated.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Sixteen hours in economy though, middle seat.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Middle seat's motivation.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's motivation.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Motivation.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
That's some cruel and unusual type management.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Ber.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's what we like here, fanatics.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's fun. That's that's some like fantasy factory shit. Honestly, Jack,
you less jump into the game. Should we get into
this Serbia team real quick? These guys, I mean Serbia
they know ball, baby.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
This is a great basketball playing nation led by legendary
euro League coach to Letislav Petchicked. So my pronunciations here
really getting to work out.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I'm glad you're joining.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
This is out.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh man, me too, so much better than I could,
thank you. That's all I needed. Uh, you know him?

Speaker 6 (35:54):
He coached Barcelona, he coached all these like Dynamo Moscow.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
He's been in the EuroLeague forever.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
This roster had four guys that were currently NBA at
the time. Jokic of course, three time MVP them, the
man Boydan Vanovich from the Hawks we know him, missed it,
who was on the Hornets that year, and then not
to be confused, but nikolaid Jovic who's on the heat.
And it's a really good EuroLeague players. They were coming

(36:19):
off a strong showing at that twenty twenty three feet
By World Cup where they took silver, fell to Germany
in the finals. This was a real big momentum for
him that kind of put him on the world stage.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
D Throw competed with Germany.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
It was number one at the time, but they were
they were expected to challenges in this one.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
First off, how good is Yokich in person? Joker baby,
He's spectacular.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
But I was definitely I'm used to rooting against him,
and I rooted against him more than normal in this
particular game. You know, when he played the Sixers, I've
rooted against him here against our country. I was definitely
rooting against his as he's a scary dude.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
He's scary. Yeah, it's like silent scary. Yeah, Assassin. Those
are the scariest ones. Guys that don't talk. He's he's
like the guy and gone in sixty seconds. You remember the
guy that had to steal the hummer Remember that one movie.
He's like that exact same dude, didn't talk the whole movie.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
And then he's got his brothers sitting behind the bench.
Those guys are even scary. Yeah, they're even bigger.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Somehow. We had Joe.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Remember when Joe was on here. Joe's like, it looks
like he's playing water polo out there, kind of does.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Now is our time as being the basketball leader in
the world the United States? Is this finally coming?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Are we?

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Is it closer to the end than I mean, we
haven't had an MVP in a long time, so I
don't think so. Look, here's the reality.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Basketball is an incredibly global sport and there's so many
stars from around the world that drive competition at the
highest level. But I still think you're gonna have the
concentration when you put it all together. I still think,
you know, America is going to be able to put
the best team on the court Olympics after Olympics, after Olympics.

(38:03):
So I don't think our time is ending. I will
say I think people go into that with a lot
of confidence. I think what happened in twenty twenty four
was a good message to say, hey, we better take
the shit seriously in twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty two.
So you know, I don't think our time is over.
But what I will say is I think that was
a good reminder. You know, how many games did you

(38:24):
think you were going to win your life? And you
just I said this to actually Robert Kraft right before
you got you know, played the Jets this week. I'm like,
it's the games you think you're going to win or
the games that you lose. And so I think there
was a level of confidence coplacency that probably shouldn't have
been had. And I think at the end of the day,

(38:45):
the team knew how to pull together and win when
it mattered, and that was what was so incredible to
be there for. Both this game and the final game
against France both were so spectacular. But you know, there
it is a real global sport, that's for sure, one
thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's kind of like how we were our whole career,
where if you have so much sustained success when you're
playing a dog shit team, they think if they beat you, guys,
it's the super Bowl. And they get that with everyone
in the world. Every little kid on all these teams
grew up watching the NBA, wanted to be in America,

(39:21):
and when they get a shot to play them, they're
out for revenges man.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
By the way, we see that with smaller competitors against
fanatics every day. But I actually love that that competition
makes us better and so for me. You know, when
we were smaller, we were the person trying to disrupt
somebody else and make it better for the fan. Now
all we think about, when we obsess about, is how
we can do everything to enhance really the the consumer

(39:50):
experience for the fan. But I got to tell you something,
there's so many young companies saying they want to kill us. Okay,
I love that competition, that competition. You each push each
other to be better, to put your your best foot forward.
So competition's great. That's why we play the game.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Raises the best out of you, raised the best out
right baby jackulis jumping the team USA.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Oh, this roster speaks for itself. Steve Kerr leading the way.
Stars started, assistant coaching staff, Mark Feugh you know him
from Gonzaga, Eric Spolster, ty Lou four straight gold medals
coming into this thing. Sixteen overall, the average age on
this team a little bit old, thirty, the U and
USA standing frounk out here, kd Lebron, Steph the old
heads leading the way, but I love it. Eleven of

(40:29):
the twelve guys we're all stars this year. Eight combined
MVPs on this team, and we got some notable Olympic debuts.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Steph first ever Olympics. Crazy crazy, we needed him.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
Anthony Edwards ant Man he's the future, Embiid Halliburton, and
Eric White. Yeah, this was I mean, this is TEMUSA stacked.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Could this team beat the Dream Team?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
That's such a good question. What do you think? I mean?
I don't.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't watch basketball now like I did then, and
I still have the folklore of like Michael Jordan's still
being the guy and that whole team and the stories
around the practices of that team, and it was like
the first time the pros could play in the bat
You know.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
What I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I don't know, you know what, but I don't know.
My job is to give a politically correct answer because
some friends with a lot of people on both sides.
But you know what, fuck it, these guys would win, yes,
you know, because I just think everything's advanced so much.
The way the three shots today has advanced, and you
know since since since that period of time. I just
think the way people are, the way you can train today,

(41:34):
I just think the sophistication today is at the greatest level.
So I'm going to say, yes, they would win.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
So the time traveler theory though, so if you take
that group and put them into the other group, not
if that group got to be in this group.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Now you're confusing this ship. Like I was asked a
very simp question with this team beat the Dream Team,
and I thought, first I should be politically correct and
not answer the question. I said, fuck it, yes, And
now you're coming and making the question more complicated.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I say, that's terribleson Larry Bird Jordan. It feels like blasphemy.
But I'm with I'm with Michael, you know what, it's
You're with me. I'm with you, thank you. I'm not
against you.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I mean I used to want to be political, and
I asked the question, what do you think either they
would win or they would win? Who is winning?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Answer the question, gotta go with Jordan.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's what old people do, the old people. Old people
can't respect the youth, by the way, and then when
they're calling when they're calling out saying these thirty year
olds are old. I'm definitely going with the young guys
I know.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And then all of a sudden, you see Steph Curry
pull up from half court and just drained like nothing
with the night night. Oh my, how good is Steph
Curry spectacular? It's how is it watching it live? I've
never seen him live either, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Okay, well, first of all, there's one thing I've picked
up here. I thought I didn't leave my house when
I came to Los Angeles. You need to get out
of here. There's this basketball team here called the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Lakers.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
There's also a second one called the Clippers. Both play basketball,
and you can actually get out and see some of
these guys. You are on the sports business, you want
to be relevant, you want to know what's going on.
I'm just suggesting, get the fuck out of your house.
I got to get out of the house. Yeah, just
saying trees with that, I agree.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I'm with the Celtics are in town soon?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Are they think?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Last time I went to a Lakers game when they
played the Celtics, Hey, let's run it back.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Let's run it back.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
We did have Genie with you.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
We did.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Jeanie said I could go whenever I want, and then
she sold the team on you, and she sold the team.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
That was like, yeah, I made this commitment to Jewels.
I don't want anything to do with the horrible out
of arm at the game. I'm selling the teams don't
have to honor this commitment.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
No, It's like, that's a billion out of these You've
probably hung out with all these guys, Which who's the
funnest to hang out with?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
They're so I mean, first of all, I probably know
half the guys. Well, if I say there's so many
great guys on this team and so many just incredible athletes,
I mean I think of these guys, you know, I think,
like all of us, these this is a group that
literally they eat, breathe, live basketball and that's what's their priority.

(43:55):
Twenty four three sixty five. So I don't think of
any of these guys like, Hey, these the fun guys
you hang out with. But you always see moments just
like you know people, you know, you see the five
ten moments a year that I'm having fun. I mean,
you know, like, there's so many great guys in here.
I'm look at the bottom list that look a book.
I mean, in the rare times when you see him out,
he's certainly it's got such a great personality and such
such a fun guy. You know, obviously embiads my boy

(44:18):
JT is great. I mean, there's so many great guys
on here. Who's a guy on here? Who's the guy
that's not on here that you think that should be
on here for this team? For a twenty twenty four
Olympic team. I don't know. I'm gonna let you create
the controversies with that one. Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Brown, Oh,
Jaylen Brown, Well, that was a lot of controversy about him,

(44:39):
for sure. People And by the way they brought in
my guy White.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I love d White though too.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Anyway, He's got such a great way about it. And
I've met him a few times. I barely know him,
but you just see. One of the things I love
to see is people that bring people together. And if
you look at this list, obviously Steph you know you
think about right away someone who's like because the thing
about basketball is, you know, sometimes you have these teams
you're like, oh, that team's gonna win all because they
have three great stars. But the three great stars they

(45:04):
don't fit well together, they don't play well together. You know.
Derek White just she just felt like he has such
great energy of how he brings people together. Obviously, I
look at the top of your list here and you
look at Stephan and obviously you think that right away,
here's a guy who brings people together. And there's so
many leaders on this team, but bringing people together, you know,
part of you know you're gonna have all the talent
in the world, that doesn't mean you're gonna win. I've
seen I've seen that in business as well. Sometimes we'll
go out and we'll hire somebody incredible, has got all

(45:26):
the intellect, all the talent, but they can't work well
with other people. And you need to get people that
have all the talent but know how to bring people together.
You played on a team where what was Tom Brady's
best skill probably how he brought every one together. Yeah,
consistency too right, same guy every day, which is part
of leadership. Part of leadership me kept you in line,
which is no easy job, no easy job. I come
about a guy who go off the rails. Not with

(45:49):
TV though, because he kicked your ass, he kicked.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
My assalization what both, Kim Newton, you can't have my
highest that's right?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Guardage game with Kim?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I would not to say on seventy nine when I
couldn't even walk Highway eleven.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Highway eleven. Nicknames?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
He did have nicknames? Yeah, great nick names. Who's the
funnest guy you like to watch? Who's like your favorite
player to watch on the team.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I mean, I gotta say I still say it's Braun
because I just have so much respect at his age
who's doing. What he's doing is spectacular, And I think
it seemed prior to Tom and Braun, it seemed inconceivable
that you could play the level that these guys are
playing at the age they're at and all, like I

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like to joke around and be the you know, have
fun with my friends, but like I can't wait to
see Tom come back at forty eight years old in
this flag football game and see does he look as
good as ever because I think he's going to because
he's working out to accomplish that. When you look at
Bron at forty years old and what he does day
in and day out, it's pretty spectacular. And I was
listening to Charles Barkley a couple of days ago saying

(46:53):
like there's a time when he just hates to see
all guys where you don't have the last couple of years,
Bron still got it. Like, so for me on this list,
you know it's Braun without question.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
It's it's hard to argue. I would say either Braun
or Steph just because Steph is like defying odds when
I see him shoot and do the things he did,
like he's literally revolutionized the game.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
You asked me for want to answer that? I know no,
So like if you want bye bye for me, I
feel like it'd be Braun, Steph, JT Book. I mean
you asked me for one person. I try to answer
your question Broun versus Jordan. Then who who do you
got answer that question? You answer it first, I know
you're old, How are you going with Jordan? You know
I used to be that way?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And then with what you just explained, Braun is in
his forties and he was the best guy on that
court in this game, Like we wouldn't have won if
it wasn't for Braun and the other guys. But he
took over the game at like thirty nine, took in
the world.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Because at the end of the day, he has those
killer instincts that when he has to kill, Like, that's
not the guy you fuck with, Okay, yeah, that's the
guy you're always respected. Like I remember, I'll tell you
a great basketball story. I remember at the end of
a this is when I was abolved in the ownership
of the Sixers. I remember seeing Jaylen Brown, you know,
at the end of a game when they played the Sixers,

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and I think the Sixers it just won the game
by a couple of points, and Jalen came up to
me and says, yeah, you know, I hope your guy
gets MVP. I'm like, I know exactly why you're saying that.
He's like, yeah, he said, I want him to be
happy with MVP. I don't want him to be thinking
about any anything else. And here's Jaylen Brown saying, here's
how I'm going to be a killer, Like I'm playing
a game of chess. You know, here's what I want
to happen. So, like, I mean, look, these guys. You

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don't get to where any of these guys are without
being killers. But Bron's an assassin.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, I think it's a lot closer than what it
was back in the day. It used to be just
straight Jordan, but now, like I never even thought it
could be possible to get on the same wavelength of
him with that killer instinct that we're talking about. But Broun,
I mean, I'm a tom guy, so that like naturally

(49:03):
puts me in that Bronz category because of the longevity,
like the defying odds with the age stuff, the consistency,
the durability.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Winning in different locations.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Winning in different locations, Like it's fucking it's it's it's
hard to pick. You can't.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
You gotta pick.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Only reason I'm picking Michael Jordan because one time before
the Super Bowl, my first Super Bowl I played, or
second Super Bowl we played in when we won, I
met Jordan for the first time, and I was so intimidated.
It was him and Derek Jeter. We were at Paradise valaity,
a Paradise Valley, that little restaurant in there, the Sanctuary.
This is a Friday before the Super Bowl, and I

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go up to meet mister Jordan and mister Jeter, and
Jordan was super standoffish and Jeter was charming, and we're
talking for like ten minutes, and I went and introduced myself,
like I'm about to play in this game, sir, you know,
I just want to meet you guys. And Jordan at
the end of the conversation looks at me with the
stone con stone cold killer eye and he says, don't

(50:05):
fuck this up, kid, I got a lot of money
on you guys.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Sounds like Mike. Which game was it?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
The Seahawks, And so just because of that, I thought
he literally was gonna kill me with his eyeballs.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I love that I got to pick Jordan's killer instance
you had the game.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
When he touched then, I was just terrified of him
and it was everything I wanted in more from if
I were to ever meet Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
It went.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
It surpassed my excitement levels because he was real with
me and they say they made me the key key
Hey fanboy.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
He said, Hey, fucking kid, don't fuck this up. It's
good to where's the wisdom. We didn't fuck it up
and can't let him now. So I'm going Jordan, that's
a thoughtful and respectable answer before we move into the game.
You grow up in Philly.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
What's it like growing up of the team you're a
fan of and then walking in the first time you
own the team.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
You know, I think people think owning a team is fun. No,
it's not. Because you have one job and we failed
at it every year I was involved. You have to
win the championship. That is your job. You have no
other responsibility when you own a team, and we were
a perennial second round exeter of the playoffs in the

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time I was involved with the team. So for me,
I think I learned a ton. I think I added
some value to the organization. But for me, I felt
like this huge I'm letting down fans by not winning
the championship, and that's all that really mattered. You know,

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there's no reason if you don't when you entered sports ownership,
If you don't do it, if the only reason you're
doing it isn't because you want to win championship, you
running for the wrong reason. And that is what the
city and the fans expect for you and there are
one hundred percent right. So you know, I think you
learn a lot about heartbreak. You feel what the fans
field because you want it so fucking bad. You want

(52:09):
to deliver it for it's so bad. And that's why
I'm so excited for Robert Kraft today to say from
going from six super Bowls to people thinking they're kind
of an embarrassment of the NFL to now being nine
and two with you know, you know, an incredible quarterback
for the future, an incredible you know, coaching organization and

(52:33):
they're back, and like, I know how good that feels,
and I know how much he sweats. He and Jonathan
sweat every single play, every single moment that makes gives
them the chance to get that, you know, at baut
to try to win a Super Bowl. So for me,
I'd say I did it from twenty eleven till two
thousand and twenty one and twenty two. It became a

(52:56):
huge distraction of fanatics. We're getting the sports betting business.
You can't take bad some people that you can't take
bets on your own team. You know, we had individual
deals with so we kind of as we expanded our
business that violated the rules of the leagues, and so
it was time for me to move on. But I'd
say I left feeling like I never did my job,

(53:17):
and that's you know, that's that's an owl on my record,
man of integrity and honesty and honesty. Facts. Jackie get
us in this game. After that moment right there.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
Leaning up to this game, there's a rematch, played them
twice already before this, played them in an exhibition, busted
them one fifteen seventy nine. Then we met him again
in group play one four. People say, looking back on
hindsights twenty twenty, they were giving us some vanilla looks there,
playing possible a little bit because not to get too
ahead of ourselves here, they come out with different coverages.

(53:49):
They're twitching, they're doubling, they're falling to stop any transition
for us.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
So that's that was a little bit of a talking
point leading up to it. But immediately, you know that
happens in sports, A little vanilla a little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, let's save one, it really matters.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
In the quarterfinals of the knockout stage, we busted Brazil
one twenty two eighty seven. Meanwhile, Serbia had to go
to o t to be the Aussies ninety five ninety
that gets us to the semifinals.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
This event.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
We talked about it, but being in Paris, that's got
to be a cool feeling, like having the Olympics in Paris. Well,
where was everything at where was it all at the
wood Stadium or you know, for me, the.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Cool feeling was this was probably the time when I
felt most connected to every bit of this from both
the business aspect. You know, we operate you know, many
of these businesses, whether it's their online businesses. We sell
so much of this merchandise. We create so many of
these collectibles. By the way, the trading card that we
collected of the having that we created a card at
the end of the game that had Braun Stephen Kad

(54:52):
on it. It was probably the single biggest card we've
ever done in the history of tops. And by the way,
there was one one card that's still it's the one
on one card still has not been found yet, which
is unusual for such a special card to not surface.
You know, oftentimes they come out, they come out eventually.
That card still hasn't been found, so now those are

(55:13):
in the regular packets. It's completely randomized. Yeah, there's no
gum any billions that stopped. That's stopped when you were younger.
Whenever consider your young box that stopped. But completely randomized.
So when you go today. I mean, there was a
very famous story last year where Paul Skins, rookie pitcher,
had his debut patch and a kid actually in California

(55:36):
had asked his parents, I really want a box of
these cards for his Christmas present, and they went to
stock had spent two hundred bucks, bought the box of cards,
and he got the Paul skiings, which ultimately sold for
one point one million. Now that's a great story. There's
you know, many people get a box of cards, but
the value of the cards are you know, way less

(55:58):
than what you pay for it. So it's completely randomized.
It's just and it's worked that way for the entire
trading cards. Trading cards have been randomized since you know
TOPS was created, you know in the early fifties. Wow,
that was great, that's where it was nuts a million
dollars game with me.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Pirates are like here is like season tickets, can we
get it back?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And for thirty years? Yeah, front row season tickets for
thirty years. They give him the gross season tickets.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
They offered it.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
They offered it, and then Livy said, and come to
this suite with me to watch the game. And it worked. Nope,
the kid took it. He took the million one.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's like in Seinfeld with the hot coffee, you remember.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, so look being in Paris where we have such
a big partnership with so many you know, so many
the guys on Team USA. Having been such a big
basketball fan, that was like, I went to other sports.
I went to volleyball, I went to track. But like
I'm looking at these pictures now, I mean that look

(56:56):
at it, the picture of Travis there and just how
hyped he was, and there's jt over there. It's just
it was such a it was such a great moment.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
How is it different though, the like, because I've been
to Super Bowls, you go to the NBA finally day
you're still fighting for your country, still fighting.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
So you're still fighting for your country, and by way,
they still have so much so much better, so much
better to almost lose and then win than to win easily. Yeah,
like makes it more exciting. Yeah, Like your question, what's
the best moment you can remember in your life? It's
that twenty eight three comeback. Correct.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Honestly, probably Rory could have been you know, I mean
we came all of them more daughter birth of the
daughter No I was supposed to be. Probably say like
he says, sports World, he says sports.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I actually did it because you can said what's the moment, Like, look,
you were just glowing about your daughter, how amazing she is,
and you know you're here for her. But the reality
is being in front of the whole world and being
down twenty eight three and having so many thousands of
people leave the stadiumsay we gave up on you, and
you said, fuck that, We're gonna find a way to

(57:59):
win this game. Looking at you. Mark Wahlberg, Yeah, like
you're gonna bye. I'm not by in the suite I
was in. It was all a bad mojo we got
out of that sweet jip. Robert was gonna kill me
for spanning this, but it was all that people were like, yeah,
we're leaving a halftime, the game is over. Fuck y'all.
You know what I mean. People didn't believe in you,
and you know you guys went out and you did
what you did. So to me, like watching cemusa thinking

(58:24):
they're really losing against Serbia, and then coming back and
winning the game. By the way, seventeen point differanchiation, seventeen
point differentiational in the thing, come out right in the
fourth quarter. See insane, insane, absolutely insane. Fifteen points in
the fourth I'll tell you, I'm looking at this picture now.

(58:45):
I think Travis jumped up and down the entire fourth quarter.
He must have burned five thousand calories.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Basketball does give you that excitement, though, when you're sitting
on the court, there's nothing like it.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Your feet's on the plane, you're on it. You were
in the boys talk yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
You see the energy, you see them.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
And then I always think of myself because again I'm
always like rooting hard, but always thinking about every scenario.
That's the way my brain works.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Like Jewish worries, I'm like too, I'm like, are we
gonna lose this freaking game?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Like no way, Like this can't happen, and so and
then like it felt like it was a Disney movie
setup to have us a play France in Paris with
Wemby there, who played so incredible. Okay, and he is
such a special, special, special human being, and.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
We do we have his we got his first game
patch out there already.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
We did not have that, so we don't.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
We have his first jersey on first get something.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, he's he's you know, look, he's one of the
most important athletes in the world to fanatics in the future.
And you know, what he's doing is incredible, and he's
such a he's a good dude. He seems like a
good dude. I don't know, he's special. He is really
really special.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
All the great ones seem like that's the thing. You
gotta be a you gotta be a like a good dude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Well, I'll tell you this thing about him, and I'll
give the abbreviated story of this. But we were having
dinner a year or two ago in New York, and
I've tried to set the dinner for eight. I think
he set up for six and showed up ten minutes early. Anyway,
long story short, showed up ten minutes early. But here's
the story that you'll love. So Brady lives two minutes

(01:00:26):
for me in New York. So he called. I said, oh,
Wemby's here, you should come by with your son. So
they came by, and these guys are having all kinds
of great conversations and and Vic looks at his watch.
He's like, hey, it's uh, I think it was like
eight thirty. He's like, I got to go home and read.
It's a thirty in the night. He's going home to
read this book to make sure he gets the exact
right amount of sleep. And Thomas just like huge respect
for that. It's just like the discipline he has as

(01:00:47):
a I think he was twenty at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
That's why he's going to be He's going to be
the guy he melt. He is something else healthcare. Those
big guys, they scare me though, when they're so big.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I know, I gotta tell you thing I know he is.
That's what I've says about him. And I'm gonna tell
you saying, this guy takes his stretching and his face.
He is not your He is special, beyond special in
his thoughtfulness, in his the way he takes care of himself.
He is not Like it's pretty embarrassing for me when

(01:01:19):
you have you spend time with someone who's thirty two
years younger than you, feel like they're more responsible. And
he's definitely more responsible guy. This guy too. Yeah, he's
definitely more responsible than you for sure. Probably.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Oh my gosh, this was a should we put a
quick bow in this game?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
I hound Steve Kurvern not playing JT enough, but his
coaching with Steph Book, Katie Lebron a D lineup towards
the end was huge. He had a big sequence with
Katie and Book back to back threes that cut it
to five. Then you got the embiid turnaround with four
minutes left that cuts it to two. Then you got
Bron and Steph going downhill, those big transition layups, just

(01:02:01):
willing us to win, going right to the cup. Uh,
I mean you really ice that thing. We're only up
two with about thirty seconds left. Katie hits that long
too right in Petrozv's eye, puts us up four, and
the rest was history.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Wind up winning this thing ninety five ninety one, unbelievable
fifteen points in the fourth quarter that held them too.
What's your favorite favorite favorite moment of this game? When
did you know you guys had it? When did you
feel it? I knew I had it when the game
was over, not until then. Anytime we prematurely celebrate bad
things happen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
See, it's hard I'm not into part I'm not at
I'm not too many games where it's gone. I am
not into premature celebrations that does not work out well,
never has worked out well. So I'm no different than
I'd say if I were in a casino and I
got three blackjacks, someone else would celebrate. I say, like,
wait a second, they got a face card. You don't
know what's under there, Like calm down, and you know

(01:02:53):
ten percent of their scenarios they got the blackjack too,
So like, I'm never celebrating until something's over. It's getting
his cards.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
I kind of fan that's right in those cards and
Steph pours this thing in with thirty six points, leads
us to victory.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
I'm in. My favorite moment was like the excitementhen that
game was over. But then you have to not believe.
But you know what else you knew right away? Hey man, Wimby, No,
you know you said, yeah, these these guys, you know,
we just got tested hard, we got a lock in
and focus. Now, I will tell you one thing I
was with my entire family and the celebration after they
won the gold. Oh that is some damage to my body.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Got to hear about it. How does it start the
PG version or something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Well, I don't think it starts like one or two
o'clock in the morning and ended in me not speaking
very much in the car right home because I was,
you know, maybe had a few too many drinks. I mean,
gold medal. We we got toast the home team. It's
I guess I can always be a drunk perfoon like
any of them. It shows you, like I have everyone's
gold medal on the It's like whatever, you just all

(01:03:52):
celebrated having a great time, and so, you know, so
I felt so lucky to get to witness that firsthand,
and you know, to see greatness, you know, Rare its
head in the biggest of ways, amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Before we score the game, we ask all our guests
what does sports.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Mean to you? For me, what sports means is the
right to compete. And there's nothing greater. And the reason
I always say I have the greatest job in the
world is I get to compete seventeen hours a day,
three hundred and sixty five days a year in business.
I can do it until I die, and I love

(01:04:32):
doing it so much. But sports is the ultimate competition.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
If you grow up with a real competitive mentality. You
like to test that as much as possible. And that's
the honor that I get to do running fanatics every day. Wow,
well said, Well said, what does it mean to you?
If you haven't had to answer that before? Seven hundred
and twenty two thousand times here, I've never actually answered it.

(01:04:57):
I always ask it. I wouldn't be where, I wouldn't
have anything if it wasn't for sport. Sport taught me
the lessons of life that you need a team, the accountability,
the discipline, the sacrifice, the putting goals towards something, the

(01:05:20):
progressing towards something, the putting hard work, not just in
hard work, but working hard at specific things, knowing what
you have to work on to improve the improvement. Improvement
is such a great thing that I've learned through sport,
like I've learned all my life, lessons that I've learned
after sport through sport, because it took that advice that

(01:05:46):
I learned in sport to do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Sports is everything to me. It's giving me everything.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I love that. I'm gonna tell you we ADD'd around.
You actually asked me about the uniforms of Drewski. In
his uniform and me in your uniform. And for me,
it was because in a lot of ways, for a
really unathletic guy, which I'm very self professed at. And

(01:06:14):
I'm not, by way, I'm not a religious person. I'm
just I would never grow up very religious, but you know,
to be a Jewish unathletic kid. When they said, what,
Jerry do you want to wear in the skit, I
said yours because it was like, here's a little guy,
let's go who's Jewish, who like found a way to
prevail all the time. That's fucking inspiration, man. And I
remember Truscat had so much fun doing this. We were

(01:06:34):
just cracking up running through the halls of fanatics. By
the way was by way I was. I was amazed
by Now I haven't played football since ninth grade. It
actually like I was pretty aggressive and and and yeah
I was. I don't think we showed some of my
crazy scenes when I was just like knocking them over,
but I showed Vince didn't see this, Nas saw Vincent

(01:06:56):
one of Roberts parts. I think I was in clean
slipping like are you gonna die? Yeah, but you should.
You should know. I want your jersey to show you
don't appreciate. Here's this little jewish guy. Look what he
can do. If he can do it, anyone can do it.
Let's fucking go.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
So why did you just keep pick Evin?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Wow, that's obviously they the same stomach lining, they have
the same body shape.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
I appreciate that, bro, I appreciate that. We'll be right
back after this quick break. Let's let's name the game
and score the game. These are some names that we
came up with. If you have a specific name, we
can use it. We came up with the Steph Curry game,
Steph Saves America game.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Oi Steph that we we we France.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I was thinking, you know, I got my dialegue. We
were gonna name this game Joker versus Juggernauts or something else.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I got any name for you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Well we got USA. Don't quit there, it is USA.
Don't quit love that score the game? Is this the
greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Remember decimals
are encouraged. Rubes says of this semifinal game in the
Olympics semifinal game, the stake zero to ten decimals encouraged.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Well, I mean I might score it a hundred because
you're going home if you don't win it. So I
don't know how you don't give it. If I'm really
cut off at ten, it's a ten.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
But you know what, if there's a final game, what's
the stakes of that one?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I'm going home if I don't win this game? All right?
And this game was more dramatic than the last game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
We let all our fax facts. People have their own scores.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I'm gonna go with a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I mean, it's a semifinal game in the Olympics, but
we are thought you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Were going home? You watched that game and thought we
were Did you watch the game a little bit? Yeah?
Did you think we were losing?

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Never, You're full of shit. You gotta fucking believe Rubes.
This guy down twenty eight to three in a Super Bowl.
You think I fucking you know what? I jumped on him?

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Baby, Yeah, I agree. I'll shut I'll shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Nah, I'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
You know, I think it's an eight point eight, got
a nine point four six.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
I was I was close to ten. Man, this is
this is a I love this game. This is a
ball no er pick of a game to this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
The crazy thing about this. In twenty years, this game
could even be bigger because we may not win another
championship after that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Star powers decimals encouraged.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
We will.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
That was a defeated attitude. What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
Don't talk vps all, don't talk that dumb ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
They'll move off of the same country.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Star power of this game A lot of stars?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Do you want me to hit him? Real lot of
stars I got.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
We got Michael Ruman, we got some own Biles, we
got Snoop Dogg, Mick Jagger, Paul is All, Cuavo, super Bird,
Meghan Rappino, Gabriel, Union, Cap Collin, Stars, Rot, Tony Parker,
Dwayne Wade.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Guys on the But as I thought, I thought you
were evaluating the quality of the squad. This is stars
that came. It's all I need more clarity here, you
guys like you can't. We're just throwing the overall star power.
I think this in dark Power of the Game was
here they're gonna say, I think this star power of
the team was a nine. I think the star power
of no, no, no, I'm getting mathematic. I think the

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star power of the team was a nine because you
had other great players other places. You had the most
incredible players on Team USA. So I'm gonna give the
star part of the team a nine. I'm gonna say
the star power that was there was a six. So
I'm gonna give it a seven and a half. Like
it could have been. It could have been, could have
been more star power at the game. There weren't enough
great people there. This ain't no white party anyway that

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I would go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I thought there's hell of stars at this take. I'm
going at least in eight point two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I think you guys are both low.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
I went in.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
It shows I've never been to you guys. Ship n
an all star game, all star game, and it's emparissed.
It's the star of all the cities.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
But you said how you said how were the stars
that came out? And I'm gonna say the stars that
came out we needed more support. Okay, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
This is true.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
I'm still I'm stick. I'm sticking to my six.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I like that integrity score. The gameplay, this is where
it goes off. Gameplay zero to ten decimals encouraged. We're
talking the full game of the quarter, full game, entertainment,
game entertainment, was great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
I'm going to give it a I'm just I'm still
very disappointed by having put it all in the fourth quarter.
I would have liked to blow up by forty points
because that would have made me not not test my
heart rate conditioning. So I'm going to give it an
eight point seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
That's a really good story. It was a freaking great game.
I'm going to go with the eight point.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Nine. Nice. Just for shuts and giggles, what are we
rating the twenty eight three comeback? We can show you after.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
I think we'll show you after at a nine point eight,
Hi eight point two at eight point two.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Now, the name of the game USA, don't quit. We gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
We gave the name of the game. I need it's
you know why, because we got to always remember we gotta.
We need to always remind people never fucking quit, period
out of story. You know, so many people are soft.
They talk the words, they don't walk the walk, And
so I love that name. To run to a brickwall.
It has our country and it has don't quit in it.
I gotta go with the nine.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
I'm gonna have to up whatever I put him there,
because we got a new name. Eight point one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Name name I pregraded.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
I'm going nine I game off of the cultural impact
of this game, right, how much you think about it
later on?

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Twenty eighth to three game, You'll just think about that
in the shower, right. I'm not a big basket thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I don't think things about every day. I really don't.
I gave the lowest score on it. Where does it
get in my Roman MPOA?

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
So wait, hold on, no, it's an eight point eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
It's gonna be high. This is going to be high.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
This is our new It's tied for eleventh and tenth.
So tied with tenth with the Choke of the Dope
Florida versus Florida State Week eleven, nineteen eighty four and
the two thousand and four ALCS game four Yankees versus Reds.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
I just want to say, you guys, great, it's just sucks.
What are you talking about? Do you have? You have
the twenty three comeback and this is elaborate that you have.
You have you have nine games in between the twenty
eight three comeback, the games and and this this where
where sorry, where'd.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
You put it at?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
It's tied with these two games. It's eight point eight,
So a three way it's a three way tie, now,
got it. I'm still gonna say I think we've been
unfairly hard on the rating of this game because I
don't understand how two through nine would be in between.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Mirror corner, geopolitical. I mean, I'm too young for that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
Twenty sixteen, the Cold War comes didn't TV then that
was great, But you had a house.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Bro Women's World Cup China versus USA Women's Sports.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
They took their shirt off.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
That's not what we need a regrading system here. It
needs to move up. We do snow it.

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
Literally, no one cares about your snowball. I wasn't there,
Travis fox Ball forever. Yeah, but that literally that one
plague could have changed six Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
It could have just I need to I need to
have this scent to me. I'm going to actually go
back and watch some of these games. I liked it,
Go watch them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Yeah, we're gonna send you would appreciate that, and then
we're gonna give you a book report on them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Perfect the regrading. I think we need to. All right,
Canada beat us? How is that ahead of this?

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
That one's the high score?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
That's so you're saying that there's there's scoring accuracy issues here.
Oh yes, Now, we'll always think of the thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
We're always competitive with ourselves and trying to be better.
Every fifty games or so, we try to rescore and
try to make things.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
If you have any feedback, we will welcome out greatly. Okay,
well I just gave you so and I like that. Rubes,
we miss anything about this game? Do we miss anything
about this game? You might have missed one crazy situation,
which one my.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Friend who got a rest right afterwards, who got arrest
We were Travis Scott for being drunk. He was stuck
in jail for two days for nothing. Oh by the way,
I went home town to bring it up. I mean,
ten minutes later, I try to forget it. But it's
not like I mean, it was like I mean, it
was a nothing thing. It was just like a drunkenly
stupidity of the night. At least I was a sleeping

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out with him.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
Come on, man, it's all wow. Yeah, I didn't want
to bring that one up. Here's if you really want
to get into the hood. Oh my god, I'm our
scoring system.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm gonna send our accountants and
do an audit would love. We're gonna get back to
his feedback of where you guys fucked up, and we're
gonna make sure that you guys make sure make sure
you guys do better in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I'm terrified when you make a mistake, you corrected.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
You guys have a responsibility to your fans to do better.
We need we need a little more Roobs in our life.
I like that. I'm with you. Couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
We're going to mission to stomp out bad business.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
The very first, the very first rescoring episode we did
was because Mark Cuban came in here and gave everything tense,
and we're like, that's we cannot do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
This anymore on a game.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
That's we We added may more numbers, so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Accurately and fairly pro just with thought into each score,
and it came up with a fair outcome. Then when
we came up with the score, it was unfairly lower
than it should have been. Just saying in your perimeters
in accurate parameters.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
We don't know the accurate parameters yet until the audit happens. Okay,
all until the audit happens. Come out here meant they
got a lot of audits and fanatics too. By the way,
let's go everyone Fanatics Fest.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
What date July sixteen to nineteen July sixteen, the same
weekend as the World Cup, New York City, Javets, Oh
my gos, here's my question for you. Last year you
had medical conditions that prohibited you from doing the full
Fanatics games. If we were to offer you an opportunity
to compete again, one are you going to compete at
the fullest level? And two do you think you have

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a chance of winning? One.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I will compete at the fullest level. Two I don't
know if I have a chance of winning. I'm not
a good hockey guy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
So there's eight games, and remember up your first your
worst two scores may have a shot. We can coach
you up with hockey team. I'm just saying, what's happened
you since? Like you used to take? Like? What happened
to you? You're fucking soft?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Look, I already think I'm losing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Move in California. Let's up move to That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
La life is so l a.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I just kind of want like a avocado toast and
a smoothie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I mean, it's pathetic.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Hey, we got to start trying to show them a
little bit of East Coast toughness.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
We gotta get back. You can do this during these episodes.
I need to see him training for the fanatics games
that you're gonna take you seriously, the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Let's start doing that. Let's train.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
We can cut this in six months from now when
you win Rocky Montage.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Could you imagine Brady's already guaranteed he's winning it again. Okay, Gronx,
I'm coming with everything he's got. If he's like the
I'll take him last place. And by the way, maybe
get Drake May in there this year. If you just
like the most pathetic, probably pretty good at all day.
If you end up being the most pathetic patriot, that
that's just like, that's an embarrassment.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
No, those are three good pats, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
James Harden was top five.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
We can beat Jimmy Harden. James Harden was top five, Yes,
broy Way, he was out of skills James skill.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
James was number four. And I've never seen someone so
angry about number four in his life. He like he
was like, h was fucking pissed, like and you know,
a school teacher was number three. I did, yeah and
so and the ship. I talked to James like, you
got beat by a school teacher that you're like you're
a loser, which, by the way, in this particular case, he.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Was, bro, where's that school teacher from Pennsylvania? Western PA's
got a lot of football athletes out there. I got
athlete this guy. So it's one of the crazy things.
I don't know what the number was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
I know Mayor is behind me.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
Mayor.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
How many of the top ten were not professional athletes?
Six other top How about that six of the top
ten were fans. You know what that means? You better
get your shit together, get the fucking jim and get
to work.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Man. That means I need a guy that just has
my stats right behind me at all time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
You do, You guys are misscoring ship. You just got
to mote it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I mean, everyone, go check out Fanatics Fest or.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Just Fanatics too. It's Fanatics the whole thing, a.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Lot of verticals. Just go, baby. You gotta be betting
with Fanatics sports book. If you're collecting training cards, gotta
be Finax collect get your merchandise Fanatics. Come to Finax Fest.
If you're a super fan rock jewls. Try to not
be a little bitch and compete at the highest level.
Try my hardest. Thanks Rubes, that's honored to be with you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
I wonder what it's like to be in Reuben's head.
For woman, He's probably just doing so many things. You
could see him just calculating all that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Couldn't handle it. I couldn't too much. I gotta be
more like Rubes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
He was a beast.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Yeah, what a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
He knows inspiring. What's what's up with our grading systemores? Right?
I want to I want to see what his star
part was way too well, Yeah, because he's got the
he's got the White Party standard. Yeah, this guy even
still like I know, I mean that's a pretty big like,
he's got high standard he does.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
The only thing to knock the star power with people
in attendance and the games was that. I mean the
Serbian team only had Joker like from like a big
time name technically.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Baby said baby, we remember him at Gonzaga.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Well that was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Also before before we move on real quick, we mentioned
it a little bit, but that was a real ball
no or game selection.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Yes, great point.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Guy guy like that was well he loves I mean
he loves basketball. I remember seeing him when he was
on those Sixers. He was on that court every game.
He was like r kk the Sixers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Oh my god. He's on the wood more than a lumberjack.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
But that guy, he's really disappointed he didn't win a chip.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
I know, yeah, which I expected to respect the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Jokers a competitor. Trying to get me to go against
Rob and Tom and Drake.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
We should do that would be great content.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
You should do that win next year.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
Try to go beat Tom next year. You're too old.
You don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
You can't do at least be that dude that teaches
fourth period. Br you even me the teacher kidding me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Teacher, I don't know, man, the teacher. You're too old.
You gotta get back in.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Your next to fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
All right, we're gonna start training.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
We're starting to about. I couldn't do at the events.
I got a fucking broken neck.

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
I meanwhile, you're out there doing a full Steve Austin,
clanging beers together, getting the people going.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Yes, Bro, fighting through fatigue.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Speaking of clinking years together, we've been nice. Nice time
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Speaker 6 (01:21:38):
I should have asked them if we could trademark celebrate response,
he said, the game chose me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
What a bar. We said, he's been hanging around a
lot of rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Yeah, he hangs around a lot of rappers, so he's
probably getting shipp left.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
He's getting saying it's left.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Him and j Z were at your Hall Fame game.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
I didn't want to like say thanks Rubes for letting
me get to meet jay Z of you, but it
was basically because Rubes. Thanks Rubes, dude, that was great.
That was a bar, though, the game chose me.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
Today in the Chill Zone, in honor of Michael Rubin,
guy that knows a little something about jerseys, we are
going to be doing a top five of our best
jerseys of all time, Starting five, a latest edition of
Starting five Best Jerseys.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Of all Time, in honor of Michael Ruber.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Unis unis, I mean jerseys or unis up up for
the same thing in my in my regard and it
makes a complete difference on one of my picks.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
But then you can just pick what you want. Yeah,
it's open to them interpretation. The rules are not super
strict here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Well ever, since Rubes came in, I want to I
want to clear definitive fucking rule class me go first.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
But we should put these in that people vote for
it and have some sort of competition.

Speaker 6 (01:22:52):
I'm going with an all time or the Boston Celtics
Classic right off, rip hadn't changed, don't need to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Now are you just saying the entire Boston Celtic's uber
or just like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Classic coming away? I'm going with.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
I fucking love Niners jerseys with classics, bro, the old
Niners jerseys.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
We're talking gold pants are white pants?

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Gold pants gold pants white pants are sick too. But
I when I remember when they changed over to those unis,
I was like, man, I like the old ones. Yeah,
but then now those are so old. It's like those
are cool. It's kind of like the old nineteen's, Like
it's like the C ten trucks. They used to be
like kind of like not that cool, and now like
they're so old that they're like hell is sick and

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I want one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
That's the type of uniform that you just like the
refresh so like you like toggle between gold or white?

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
And how are them? And you've been on with they
don't want no red?

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
And what then?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Don't want no red? And what cauz red and white?
Is Donald Matt cauzz redy? What is Donald mack am?
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
All round you right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
We were something stuff? Cout down what I'm gonna try
to break it all down? Three all the way around.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
Two.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
I'm gonna try to win. I'm gonna we should make
this a competition. I'm gonna try to win. I'm gonna
go with the Chargers powder Blue.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Classic.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
We're talking like the Kellen Winslaw Joints soft.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Any version of the powder Blue they don't want to know?

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Ready?

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
What bang?

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
That's what we used to sing in our in our
two pop warner when we had to do two laps,
we'd sing that as like a little like troops.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Don't I don't know when you're the City forty nine ers? Oh,
I know them.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
I don't know when this episode I know them, but
someone does. They're going to the national championship.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
I think they were going to the national championship. They're
going first to the regional Okay, huh first, so let's
go r see let's let's let's go also and lost?

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
What's I lost?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
They lost? God?

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Yeah, what the That's why I didn't want to go
too hard because they weren't at the championship game. Gronks
over here like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
You definitely don't want to support those children too much.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Nah, Games of Name is for the children, but only
if you gotta wink. If you're in a uniform, you
ain't a child. Probably getting an ail deals not I would.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Do you want a snake?

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
And now it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
I like it, So back to me.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
I am going to go with the nineties timber Wolves,
the Sam Cassell's baby.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
You probably could have got that jersey later in this.
That's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
We'll get it. And when we get it, you know
the ones I'm talking about, Oh yes, yeah I do.
It was in uh, what was the basketball game we
all used to play NBA James heating up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Yeah, these are games that was like the the New
Age East. Yeah, thought we have ever seen it was.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
That was definitely a little flavor to it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
My second, fuck, you can't say the Raiders bad.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
Maybe the black Hole all the black haven't changed.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
That's a big feather in The cap to making a
jersey great is it never change ever changes. It never
has to. That's how you know it's a great jersey.
Black and silver those are like some those are cool.
I see.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
I was always stuck because I love red and gold,
but black and silver tougher, tougher bro black and gold
flashy or red and gold, black and silver, you better,
you better watch out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
When you're going down a dark alley with that silver,
you might get so light. I'm gonna go pirate. I'm
gonna go with.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
The New York Yankees home pinstripes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Not a fan, but I can't argue with that pick
one bit.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
It's hard for me to say this, but the two
teams I grew up hating the most have like the coolest,
like some of the coolest signature unis who's the other
Dodgers the Dodgers hat and the Yankees hat. I can
never wear one, but I think they're such visually pleasing
looking like cool ass hats.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
And also you go anywhere abroad like people are wearing
those hats, whether it's supporting the team or just for
like a fashion statement.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
We saw the we saw the thirty for thirty Kyler.
We saw that thirty for thirty two thirty. Wasn't there
something about that? There was a dock on the New
York Hat cultural significance.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
I just travel.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
I thought you were a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I thought you like films. Yeah, I thought how many?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
How many produce documentaries, bro I thought you would category
it's a documentary. I don't know the exact title, but
maybe I don't even think it was a documentary. It
was like one of those six minute cut ups in
like a sports center. Yeah, yeah, I think Spike was in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
It, beyond the Bronx. Yeah, oh see, spiked it. Maybe
I was right. I love Spike Spikes the man spiked
a little. That new movie, wasn't that good man? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Hiest the lows. I liked it. I fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
I gotta rewatch it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
To be fair, you fall asleep during good movies too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
To be fair, I fall asleep in the first fifteen
minute of any movie.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Think it's unfairly getting dragged on the internet too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Though. There was like a weird little moment where they're.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Like, because I love Benzel and Spike especially together, Oh
me too?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Is that Brocky not a Bill of that not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Jeffrey Wright.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Love Jeffrey right, I love him?

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Me up next this one.

Speaker 6 (01:28:30):
I'm gonna I'm gonna take this one from you guys.
Nineties Hornets Baby, one of the best jerseys of all time.
Alexander Julian design the shorts head leaps for God's sake,
pleaded gas.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Look at Dell in that thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
So don't they have like a purple pinstripe. Yeah, there's
pin stripes in there. It's just I mean, it's jack.
Were you a child in the nineties by chance? I was, Yeah,
that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Ye all right, who's up next to you?

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
I'm going with the Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Wolverine's great one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
I loved the helmet.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
I was just gonna say, where do you staying on
the helmet that? I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
Like when I first started playing football. The I think
Oak Grove had like their color scheme with the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
There's always a team that you play that has that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Yeah, I thought it was. But like the Blue Gold
it kind of you know, blue gold is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Iconic shout out Middlebury.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
They also have Oh yeah, Delaware, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Delaware the Blue Hens Well Kent State were very similar.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
But not.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Dude, how about the real Clark Princeton has it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
I think it may have came from somewhere before Michigan.
I saw something on it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
I said that in an episode recently. I think it
gave some bad intel.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Well the dive in, Dude, I got a shout out
my guy, Derealis Clark, Kent State, shout.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Out my turn.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Hartford Whalers tough to beat, all timer.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Now, the thing with the Hartford Whalers is that the
logo is better.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Than the uniform.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
Blov does heavy lifting, and you got to do when
they're like the royal blue, like this green, like the
dark green, not that when they went Navy before they moved. Yeah,
and by the way, I played it in between a
Whaler's game as a kid. Nice shout out roy Runner,
he scored the only goal.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
So Whaler's Hartford Whalers, Harford Whalers all day.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Love that. Yeah, that one's hard to steal it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
Dog selling piece of merchandise in the world, as it
should be. Michael Rubin could tell us that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
He would know, he would know, he would know, he
would know, he'd have a spreadsheet hit up his guy
in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Hey, what is that? Yeah, let me get the auditors
on that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:31):
Okay, Jackie, I'm gonna go with this is a deep
cut the nineteen ninety seven ninety eight Juventus pink Away Kid. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
I think I remember that because we played played like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Sony Mini disc was the sponsor.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Ooh did you have a many discs? I never did
you have him any disks? And they're all right?

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
I still think.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
I'm getting kind of biased though with my shit. But
I like the Sharks unis. Oh yeah from San Jose
that that teal black. I like black in my unis.
It always made the teams look bigger and tougher, but
teal with the te but they had a little hint
of teal. The was a teal.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
They were a full teal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
No like the like the black unions though, there's a
because I had a black Parka okay, the black Yeah,
I got you jewels, that's fire.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
I love that Shark for nineties hockey.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
I'm gonna go the Phoenix Coyotes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Yeah, great pitch.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
What are they called the Kachina The Kachina guy?

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Oh, that was so sick. Dude, are kind of sick.
I remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Yeah, yeah, those are sick and like the cool like, uh, Hockey.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Always got super like new with their ship because they
have newer franchising, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Yeah, although the original six teams are like the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Right, Yeah, but they haven't changed, but like they always
had new teams. I feel popping up, especially when we
were kids.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
Yes, because nineties there was a lot of expansion. I
don't want to say a team because I might want
to pick them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Spoiler all right, is it me?

Speaker 6 (01:32:01):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the nineteen nineties Patriots, Drew bledsoe,
big Patriot on the shoulder, you know those ones, Yeah,
the starter joints.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
The Royal Blue. Yep, they should bring those back.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
They should.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
How'd we get the Northeaster jerseys before we get the dude,
I'll put those in there.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
The Blues.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
The Nor'easters are fire.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
There's uh.

Speaker 6 (01:32:23):
They got to get those back out there. They got
good juju in them. I just like these ones, like
Drew tie early tie Low.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
The big huge pat Patriot, Yeah on the shoulder, starter,
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Yeah. For me, we got a pretty good list cooking
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
We kind of like I was always a sucker for Oakland.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
A's unis that green and yellow and A is iconic
the A.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Yeah, the hat, but also what was I liked it
when they were like white, yeah with the hat or
was it white?

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
The clean white?

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Yeah? Yeah, it's sick. Okay, that's a great one. I
didn't think. I didn't predict that one out of jewels,
but I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
Yeah, these guys, right, yeah, just the the white, just
that one right there. Yeah, that's aren't the grays There
are ways, aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
I think they're they're all their unis are sick, even
they're green ones.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Yeah, they're clean.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
I'm gonna go with the purple Mighty Ducks original Jersey.
Just picture Paul Korea, t Mussolani and that bad boy.
Those are sick duck.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
What's that? It's kind of like the Donald Lee duck duck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
They should have never changed that. Yeah, right, I hate
that they went to just they went to the new Duck.
Then they do too, but they went to like the
real the pros unis.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Yeah it was weak.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
I was a Penguin actually, fun fact, I was a
Penguins fan, but it was the nineties. I had Mighty
Ducks wallpaper in my bedroom. Wow, really I could have
guessed that that it's because my brother was a Lightning fan.
I was a Penguins fan, and the Ducks for a compromise.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Pretty fair compromise. I would say, yeah, yeah, who doesn't
like the Ducks in the nineties with that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
All right, So we've got our starting five. Now we
got to go off the bend.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
We get a six man.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
We had a six man here in thirty five.

Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
I'm gonna go with another soccer one. I'm in the
nineties here, let's get out of the nineties. Let's go
to two thousand and four Netherlands Nike Total ninety kit.
I'm gonna go with the Netherlands joint. Look at my man,
Rude vannissel Roy here. These are classics. These babies running
about three four hundred on eBay right now. Anybody wants
to send one my.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Way after David's Rude Venistelroy some deep cuts here. All
your FIFA heads know what's up. I don't know why,
but I always loved nineties Florida state uniforms. Cut off
Peter Warwick. But I love the maroon, the gold, the
feather on ray helmet.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
I like see I like gold it. I like gold
ship and then I like black shit gold. All of
my rist a golden like all the other if you
look at except except the Oakland A's but that has
you could say that's like a form of gold. Ye oh,
Florida State. Florida State seminoles changed and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
They tweaked the mask.

Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
And don't sleep on Bobby Baddoms drip Bobby had some
drip man. Those cats are now has the turtle neck,
the windbreaker.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
More turtlenecks.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Yeah, I'll take a turtle. I'll take whatever you got work.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Done right there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
And then the Tomahawks. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
I like the whites to go to the White Uni.
I like the White Union.

Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
The patch is fun, like the the pant patch that
was like the thing back in the day. Now, where
do you guys stand on this one? I am anti
Kai guy. You might be pro after after your last comment.
There little decals for doing something on the helmet, the
little like, oh you did you made a play and
you get a sticker on there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
I'm anti what do they call?

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
I think only a certain I only I think only
certain teams.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Should be able to do.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
Guys, do it, buck guy Seminoles Michigan does Michigan do it?

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Yeah? And then that's that's Georgia.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
Like Georgia does tough. Georgia does a gold bone. Yeah right,
what do you guys stand on those depend.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
That's the union that that with the fucking but it
wasn't didn't they have a seminal helmet too?

Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
Yeah that was in there as well. Let me see
what years that was from though, before they switched to
the uh the spear.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
I love Native American culture for sport.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
As long as I love the tribal I love when
they get a part of it right. And that's what's
great about Florida State is that they are in communication
with the Seminole tribe of Florida to develop and to
make all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Really, I think, like just in general, okay, I think
Native Americans are just tough as fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
So before I do mine, I just want to just
some big ones we left off the table, right, talking
Lakers we left at the table. I might pick Penguins still,
but it's a little biased.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Cowboys the one I left. I love the Brazilian International soccer. Yeah,
so clean Blue.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Shore, Alabama we left off, Penn State, we left off
Notre Dame we.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Left off Yeah. I don't really like Penn State.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Yeah, I might say Virginia Tech purely because James Franklin.
There you go, small game, James, But baby, I can't wait?

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Is he going there? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
Yesterday, let's go. I think I'll end up going with.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
And I'm surprised you didn't. I don't know which year
it is, but the Lithuanian basketball team that was sponsored
by the Grateful Dead.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Yep, what year is that? Like? Another one that made
it talk about?

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Was it ninety two?

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
It was the was it the ye.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Is the dream team year? The Grateful Dead.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
North Carolina unis? There's a classic with basketball? Can't be?
I don't like football and powder blue? Yeah, not tough enough,
but you chose it pull up, didn't? Okay? Whatever? Those
are great? Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
TI die with the Lithuanian basketball team is sick. Those
are awesome and the story makes it great too, because
the Grateful Dead spot like gave them money because they
were like underfunded and they were going to the Olympics.
So Jared Garcia a grateful day gave them some money
and sponsored them. And is he from there Lithuia roots.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
I don't think so. No, they just just watch the
watch the twenty twelve doc.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
The other dream team tells you the whole story. Great man.
We could do another edition of this.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
We should probably do another edition, but we should own it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Tightened the scope, Okay, I feel that right. Tighten the scope.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
We got to bring more Michael Rubin in this. Tighten
the scope.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Yep. Where's the parameters? Gotta be a little bit more
like Rubes every day.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
W W M r D.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
What would Michael Rubin do?

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
That's what we should ask ourselves, and then we'll probably
be billies.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Hey, Jack, don't count other people's It's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Is true, This is true. Shouldn't count other people's pockets.
I'm not that would never be watch pockets. Will all
be all right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
No bird watching, no pocket watching on that all right?
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