The Double with Kyle Larson | Indy 500 & Coca-Cola 600 - Games with Names

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, what NASCAR or what race car drivers do you
look up to when you were growing up.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Jeff Gordon, you're being Northern California guy and dirt racer.
Uh really, I like to follow all the dirt racers,
so I would say Jeff for sure. Like my first
day at kindergarten, I was wearing like full Jeff Gordon. Yes,
head to toe, you find that one. I get a
look at to back everything. Yeah, DuPont rainbow rainbow.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's got to the one of the most iconic schemes
of all time.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Yes, and now he's like my boss, So that's really cool.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to Games with Names. I'm join Edelman.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on mission to
find the greatest race of all times, races, races.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Of all time.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
And on today's episode, we are covering Kyle Larsen's attempt
at the Indy five hundred and Coca Cola six hundred
aka the Double with twoenty twenty one NASCAR Cup Series
Champion NASCAR Superstar are Northern Californian and racer phenom Kyle Larsen,

(01:07):
and we're talking his second attempt at the Double.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I can't believe this is happening because there was no
rain in the forecast.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
His favorite paint.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Jobs mellow yellow.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
It looked like that is sick. His thoughts on the
f one craze.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Honestly like everybody's.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Good, and we get into what it's really like dealing
with the media as an NFL football player. In this
week's Chill Zone, presented by Corp's Light, you gotta stick
around to the very end.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Let's go games. Name is the production of iHeartRadio. May
twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Speedway, Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
May twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, Charlotte Motor Speedway, Concord,
North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
One man, two tracks, eight wheels, and eleven hundred miles.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
This is the Memorial Day Double twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Appreciate your welcome to Games with Names.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Today we are looking at the Double Race, the Double
twenty twenty five Coca Cola six hundred and Indy five
hundred with race phenom. If there is a car and
fucking pavement or dirt, this guy can race on it.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Kyle Larson, Welcome to the nuthouse, bro.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, thanks, thanks having me on now.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
In one sentence, why'd you pick these races?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Uh, probably the challenge of it, I would say, But
then I also I looked up to Tony Stewart a lot,
and he did it, so smile, smoke. He's the only
one to finish both, though I crashed out of both,
so mine was a bit more of a fail than
his was.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Now, are you going to try it again?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Probably not the double, like doing both races in the
same day, but just because like the logistics are just
just the window of time that you have is way
too tight.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Like both years.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Last year it rained so then I didn't even get
to do the Coke six hundred, and then this year
there was still another like forty five minute rain delay,
and it would have even if I didn't crash, I
probably wouldn't have been able to finish both. So I
don't think I would do the double again, but I
would like to do the NY five hundred again someday.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Hell yeah, yeah, it's I mean that's a huge race.
It's the biggest.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Is it the biggest in the world?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I would say, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I mean when you strictly look at like it may
be one of the biggest events in the world, like
single day events. I mean there's three hundred and fifty
thousand people there for the race, so yeah, it's uh,
I wouldn't. I mean, Lama would maybe be another one
that's you know, close to it, but which I've not
been to that one ever, but I heard it's it's
very similar.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
To that's the twenty four hour one.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, they just had it this weekend.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, so that's why if you if you guys any
any race heads or car heads, that's why the Porsche
they put that little thing on the left for the
Lamon because you can get in quick because they used
to have to race from the line right, Yeah, and
you jump into your car and it's quicker on that left.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Look at com Dog.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
You just taught me something.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Com On Dog is on the left. But now they're
all push button. So it was like her to me, Now,
what what's life looking like these days?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You're in the middle of a season. How do you
approach like your day to day life as a fucking racer?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
So right now, like in NASCAR, which is what I
do full time. Yeah, we're in the middle of our
season and honestly, dude, my schedule is like crazy, Like
I'm rarely home this time of year because when I'm
not racing NASCAR, you know, I'm racing the dirt track stuff,
so like I you know, and then you throw in
like doing media stuff and all that.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
So, like I'm in LA last night.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
We were just in Mexico City, you know, from Thursday
through Sunday, come to LA Monday, Tuesday. I raced sprint
cars dirt track stuff in South Dakota Wednesday and Thursday.
Then I got to go to New York Friday, and
then we're on track Saturday and Sunday in Pocono. So
I looked at my calendar yesterday, like for the next

(05:22):
two months, I'll be at home. I'll be at home
on like some Mondays, and then other than that, I'm
traveling racing. So it's pretty pretty hectic.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Now how long is that?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Is that all year round or is that like is
it really hectic for like six to eight months?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
So for me, like for your normal NASCAR driver, it's
pretty pretty standard. Like you go to the racetrack on Friday,
come home Sunday, and that's pretty much every week from
you know, middle of February till early November.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
But for me, you know, racing all the types that
I do.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's really busy, but it's busiest for me, like I
would say end of May, early June through like middle
of August, and then then once I get through August,
I don't do any of the dirt track racing because
it's getting closer to like our playoffs, so I try
to focus a little bit more on that, and uh,
I become a more typical NASCAR guy where I'm at

(06:13):
home more often, which is nice.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, dude, that's it's insane. I'm so curious.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
How, now, what do you do for your nutrition recovery
to stay dialed? Yeah, to be able to focus for
I mean your racist are what anywhere for three to
five hours long?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, sitting there pissing your pants, eating fucking electrolytes and
power bars in the car, Like, how do you fucking
create energy for this shit?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, No, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
And it's I feel like it's difficult for me because,
like I said, I'm gone all the time, so like
I don't have like a routine necessarily like some guys might.
But uh I feel like too, for like our sport,
like it's it's pretty endurance driven, so like for fitness
stuff like I like to I like to ride my
bike a lot. You know. Obviously I'm not like big dude,
don't have big muscles or nothing, but you don't need.

(07:03):
But I think being able to with stand the hot
temps that are in our car, like this time you're
in the summer, Like it'll get you know, one hundred
and forty one hundred and fifty degrees inside the car
for three and a half hours. So like while you know,
running a heart rate of you know, fluctuating from my
max would be one ninety and you know, my average

(07:24):
heart rate throughout a race sometimes we won fifty one.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Sixty fifty for four hours.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, so yeah, it's Jesus.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Look I'm sixty two right now, just erasing heart right there.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, no, it's pretty demanding, but se Yeah with that though,
like trying to stay hydrated. We have like a drink,
a drink like a camel pack in our car, snacks
if you need it. Trying to stay up on you know,
carbs and all that.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
When you're when you're putting up a snack, are you
using the I am? Are you using right here on
a fucking turn? Yeah, it's like me texting and driving
and trying to my daughter the fucking iPad at the
same time under caution.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, like I'll have to take the gloves off, you know,
rip open the pouchs whatever I might be having.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
What Uh?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So we have these like I don't know a brand
in the arbor. They're almost like it's almost like a
cookie in a way.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
There's dense.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, like they're they're pretty good. It makes a mess,
crumbles all over you. But yeah, I don't know what
brand that is. God, I can picture it. It's like
a honeycomb looking thing. But there's that, and then like
those little like Cliff I think it's Cliff branded. Uh,
like little gel gummies. Those are good. But man, if
you don't drink like fluids with it, like it like
gets me like jittery.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah are you? Are you ivy in it all?

Speaker 5 (08:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
But doing the double on the airplane, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't like to, Like I was even
nervous doing that because it's like ivy because then you
got a p yeah so I and yeah, that's that's.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's a tricky balance you gotta do. Like my pregame
cocktail would be like a bag and a half or
a bag to two bags, depending on how my spit
was from my dip while I was going over my
game plan in in you know, in the IVY room,
so I could always tell how hydrated I was by
my spit.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yet came out fast, came out Yep.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
We're ready take her out. Hey, gim me take her out.
You just need Copenhagen to make an ivy next bet.
So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
So you just came back from Mexico City. How cool
was that because we, you know, you guys are starting
to do the international shit very much like the NFL.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
We're doing what.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Iland, Germany zil zil, London, London, which you're in a
domestic sport very much like us.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I remember my first time going to London. I ain't
never left the country before. You know, we're football guys.
We don't really get to go to other countries. But
I enjoyed that process so much, being able to see
a different culture, see a different country, and kind of
feel like the basketball or soccer guys, how was your
experience in Mexico City?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
So yeah, I really enjoyed it and it's so different.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So like on a typical weekend, for us, y'all have
our most all the drivers, we have our own motor
homes that we keep at the racetrack.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
We sleep in whatever. We kind of just lock ourselves in.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
We don't really like you only come out to do
your you know, practice or qualifying race whatever. Where going
to Mexico City, like it was completely different. Like teams
were chartering big planes and like Hendrick, I think Pndrick Motorsports,
Joe Gibs Racing, and Pinske were all on the same plane.
So like traveling with other teams would be unique. And
then for me, like all the drivers were like a

(10:30):
hotel together, sitting there all hanging out, like sitting at
the bar, hanging out, having good time, going to dinner
with each other, So that was unique. And then also
like racing in front of a different fan base was
pretty cool. Like probably raced in front of a lot
of fans that I've never raced in front of before
my life, So it was really cool, Like it was
jumping huh yeah, Like yeah, like you should see some

(10:54):
of the videos, like drivers like walking through and like
fans were just like tripping over each other trying to
get autographs and stuff. Like it was It was a
cool atmosphere for sure, and I think if we go back,
I think it would just get bigger.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
H for sure. So it was fun.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
The traffic sucks in Mexico City way worse than LA,
but traffic aside, it was it was really cool.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Are you guys driving around?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Like?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Because when we were going through there, we'd drive around,
it'd be like a helicopter with fucking like some federalies
on there, and ye have half the Mexico police and
stuff on motors. There'd be two dudes on a fucking motorcycle,
one going backwards, one going Do you guys have that
experience too? It was fucking.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Crazy of what is this? Yeah, no, like goddamn video game.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah no, we I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean I think there was some security around us
for sure, but like, yeah, the drivers even had to
be like on shuttles together to the hotels. Like it
was just completely different logistics wise, but it's fun to
do every now and then I think.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, I think it'd be great for the sport. You
think any other countries would be fun to bring NASCAR to?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
So we went, well not I it was before my time,
but they used to go like Montreal Canada, and I
feel like that'd be fun. Like everybody talks about how
that was like a blast, like going out Montreal and
the fans there crazy. So I raised dirt track stuff
in like Australia, New Zealand when it's our wintertime and
the fans they are incredible too. So I'd like to

(12:18):
go to like Australia and do it in Cup. But
then I think going to like a European country would
be pretty sweet. I don't I just don't know how
well we would be received, you know, somewhere.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
That they kind of dig it.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, because you guys get a little more contact. You
guys show real racing.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
We passed, not just like yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So what's up with this new NASCAR Challenge in season tournament?
Can you explain this to me? This is kind of
cool bringing some buzz.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, we have an in season tournament now,
and I honestly I couldn't like explain to you exactly
how it works. But anyways, we're like we're in the
middle like our seating process currently, so it probably takes
like your average finish or these next four weeks whatever
you get seated. So I think if you're the number
one seed, you go against thirty two. Yeah, and then

(13:08):
just you just got to beat them each week and
then it narrows down just like any playoff wood to
the final week and the winner gets a million bucks.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
So yeah, it's pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Now, are you going to change your strategy? Yes, a
little bit, like during the regular season, because like, fuck,
can't be going balls the walls, crash this thing. I
still got to beat Joker, who's thirty two, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's what's I think interesting right now, Like I and
I'm sure this system will be adjusted maybe in the future,
but I think, like, you know, I'm looking at it
from my perspective, and then like my crew chief, right,
like the crew chief, like they're probably be strategizing like
which you always do, how to win the race. And

(13:47):
then like in the driver's side, you're gonna have your
eye on this guy. So it's like you know where
I think if they paid out a lot of points
as well to win it, then your crew chief and
strategists would get more We're into like all right, like
now we gotta you know, not only look at winning
the race, but we you know, if we just beat
this guy, we're gonna get a max amount of points.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
So because you know, the crew chief, like he's probably.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm guessing, I don't know our deal, but he's probably
not getting any of the money, you know, so it
doesn't matter as much to him as it would me
or my team owners. So but yeah, either way, I
think it adds some buzz to the middle of the season.
I think the middle of the season can get kind
of stale sometimes, so I'm interested in it.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
It should be fun now.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
It gives you a little that March madness feel, yeah,
you know, in the middle of it. And then also
the NBA just did this tournament season and then we
got NHL who's doing the four Nations. So these in
season fucking little games are like they're hitting right now.
It'll be awesome to watch NASCAR, Yeah, do really will.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
So like last year they did well, not they NASCAR
didn't do it, but Denny Hamlin I think on his podcasting,
like they created this same thing. And uh, even though
like I had nothing in it, like no money to win,
nothing like that, Like it was something I was paying
attention to every week, and I think all of us were.
So now there's like money on the line. I think

(15:10):
it'll be.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like really cool.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Cash is king.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
We might even start a little something on our podcast
if any's doing it. Yeah, we're gonna do Yeah. I
think here we should we should think of something. Maybe
award NFL man, NFL needs one.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Sounds so short, though, I feel like it's hard, extremely short.
Every week's a playoff type. Every week is a playoff game.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what's cool about NFL.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Is like the season is so short that like every
weekend is like matters a lot.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You can't trick off and have a three game slide, no,
you know, or you're gone. Yeah, and then especially if
you're playing within the division, those are two Those are
two win games, yeah, because you're not not only getting
to win, but you're putting someone else behind another yea,
So those are two win games. Man, it's fucking the
NFL's nuts. But I I for all the other sports,

(15:57):
and especially sports like basketball, baseball, hockey, and even you
guys NASCAR. The competitive stamina and the concentration stamina. You know,
we get to line up, do it for seven seconds
and then we get forty five seconds off Redo Reclibran.
Let's see where we're at let's get a pick, you know,
boom bang and do it again. You guys are on
for fucking scorers.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I didn't think of that.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Like competitive stamina. Are you sports fan?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I wouldn't say like I'm a die hard, you know,
like know everything about a certain team or player or anything.
But you know, I definitely enjoy enjoy watching sports, especially
playoffs and then football especially, you know, like I always
look forward to getting home Sunday night, turn on Sunday
Night football, Monday night football, Thursday night football. But like
I don't get like wrapped up into following like oh,
they traded this person or that person.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
You know, so where some of some of the drivers
are definitely like that.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Who's your squad? Who's your teams?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean, growing up in Northern California, I'd say the
Niners for.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Sure, Bank Niner Game, Kings, second, the Kings Kings. You know,
I went to the Kings when they had seaweb and
white chocolate and yeah, my Warriors, man, they were fucking dumpy.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Um yeah yeah, and they were.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean San Francisco Giants. But like I've been going
to the Dodgers. I went to spring training earlier this year.
Went to the game last night. They treated me super well,
so kind of a Dodgers guy.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
How was how was that? Uh? That stadium was pretty cool.
It's like retro sixties.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, yeah, like I thought, so, I just went to
Kansas City Royals game. Uh, I don't know a month
agoeadad like that baseball guy.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, that place was. That place was really nice.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
And then like going to the Dodgers place last night,
I was like, damn, I feel like I'm like going
back in time.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
I really, I really liked it. Bro.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
We got to get you to Fenway, yes, I think
because if you think you're going back in time and
Dodger Land, you might see some freaking Yeah it goes
to bab I mean it's built in nineteen twelve.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, it sounds right.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I think I've been to Fenway inn Way.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
He's insane.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I've never been the first pitch there. I think, yeah,
first pitching a long long time ago. Yeah, there's like, right,
there's a trading card to me and it's I hate it.
Like fans come up to me and I'll autograph it
and I'm like like scared, you know, like, how was here?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
We go the pitch I think was decent, but yeah,
the my face on it's not that's who we got it.
Yeah yeah too bro young ten years ago.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Holy, it looks like a middle reliever right there, baby, Yeah,
pull am if you need a couple of inning us.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Say whence fans walk up to me and while atograph that.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
You look like tim Lin. Tim Linscombe was a smaller
guy and I remember his bat fans have that and
ask his wild.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Still to this day, like probably this weekend. It's like
every weekend I sign it like, man, when are we
gonna run out of this car?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Can on the wall card? Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So you like sports? Tell us more about this motor home.
You said that you guys stay in a motor home
like not during the race. It's like a big ass
what c class?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I said, nooles.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
So it's like a prevost, big one, you know, but
mine's of nools. I mean they're like over two million dollars,
you know, motor homes.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Like they're now what's crazy?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Like I so I love so the noules versus the
prevos or the noules are like fully customizable, like you
can customize the floor plan, the size, of the slides
all that. So like my wife, she's got like a
great vision for things. So having three kids, you know,
we got it's like ours is a mid entry, so
you walk in the middle of the bus and if

(19:40):
you walk straight in, it's the refrigerator, kitchen, dinets, like
into your right, couch two like lounge chairs, TV, you
know on the front window.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
But if you walk up the stairs to the left,
like immediate.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Left is bunk beds kids yep, half bath and then
master bedroom bed uh you know, closet, dresser, all that bathroom, shower.
I'm telling you man, it's that they can cram a
lot of stuff into whatever. It is, a forty three
foot you know, motor home. It's and I love so

(20:14):
like I like driving mine too, Like I don't take it,
like I don't drive it to NASCAR races and stuff,
but yeah, your race car driver dog, but it's fun,
like you're just cruising around in it. So I'll take
it to some dirt races and stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's fun.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, toning the trailer, I feel like like an actually
like not just a you know Prima Donna race car
driver that.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Now how fast does it go?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I mean I mean it feels a little sketchy, but yeah,
I mean I pulled her over like eighty.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
On the trailer like two lanes.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, just digs in the fast lane too. I'm that asshole.
But if you hate smoother, it's smoother in the fast lane.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Wait, and then you parak it in the infield during the
like pre pre and post race. Yeah, so it's so tight.
I mean I have a bus driver that takes it
all the NASCAR races. But yeah, it's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Like we all have our motor rooms just you know,
lined up in this motorome lot and there's some of
the tracks have playgrounds and stuff for the kids, and
it's fun.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
It's a cool little community.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Now are you are?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Do you guys park next to the same guy every
time I was your neighbor.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, I wouldn't say every time. Uh, like Ricky Ston
else would be like my best friend in the sports,
so like we end up next to each other quite
a bit. Denny Hamlin and I used to until I
feel like we started getting some run ins, but uh yeah,
I don't know, it's it kind of changes every week.
I feel like at the track, like I'm in the

(21:47):
same spot every year we go to Dayton, I'm in
the same spot every year. You know, like your spot
doesn't really change, like you once you get your spot,
you've got your spot. So I think the motor home
drivers are like really territorial about that.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Now, Like, have you ever been chilling on the bus,
maybe ripping a couple of games of FIFA or whatever,
your game of choices? Yeah, you go over to Denny's
and say, hey, Bud, I need some double A batteries
them ount for my controller.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
You got any Like is it like you guys go
over each other for fucking sugar? You guys want to
fight each other for the race.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
We actually used to play a lot of two K. Yeah,
he sucks at that, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
He recently he posted something about him being like he
beat me on that. But we he's like the worst
two K players. So but yeah, we used to. We
used to gamble a lot of money playing that, and
I'd have to spot him like twenty points.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
So are you Are you a game head? Video game?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
I don't have time for it anymore.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I used to be.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
But kids, man, I don't kids.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
When you're a young driver or a young athlete, young player,
the video games are always good because it keeps you
out of trouble.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, you know I could see that that was always
a yeah what the guys did save money and save
time and save save trouble. Now you grew up in Cali. Now,
how what do you cold trickle?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
You jump into Cali racing become the California Now do
everyone look at you like, oh, the Cali kid thinks
you could just come into our fucking sport or what?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
No, because there's actually a lot from California's changed well,
I mean for a long time. I would say from
like Jeff Gordon, you know he kind of like paved
the way here California guys. Uh, Jimmy Johnson California, Skelb
and Harvick California.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
There's probably a lot of others too.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
But is it like that though in the when you
guys are all together, like the Cali drivers, stay with
the cal Because like in football, every time we're in
a locker room, we're all arguing about best talent comes
from Cali, best talent comes from Georgia, best time comes
from Ohio, best talent comes from Texas.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Nah, you know what I mean? Is it like that
with racing.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I wouldn't say necessary that.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I would say racing is different because there's there's a
lot of different types of racing that you can do
to get to NASCAR. So like, if anything, I would
say it's more like dirt racers are better than payment
racers kind of thing. That's yeah, I would say that's it.
But as far as like I would have to, I
don't know. I don't think it's more like state driven.

(24:14):
But other than dirt versus payment, dirt guys are definitely better.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Maybe back when Days of Thunder came out, it was
probably a little more like that because it was still bootlegging.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, it's still like yeah, Days of Thunder was it
was still kind of the same thing because he Cole
Trickle was dirt.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
He was dirt. Yeah, he was dirt, but he was
also from California.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, but you know, and then he went over to
what's his name to ride the car for the first time,
and he gave him a look like similar.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
This movie, you know, probably played up a little bit more,
but yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, Tom Cruise built, No, what's up with dirt racing?

Speaker 4 (24:53):
What?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
What's what makes it so different?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
So all right, so like in NASCAR, our cars are
the thirty seven hundred pounds six hundred and seventy horse
power and THEYRT. We're raising on like a quarter mile
track to a half mile with a fourteen hundred pound
car with almost a thousand horse power. So like they're
they're crazy, Like the intensity that it takes. I mean,
they're popping wheelies, they're for flipping, Like it's just it's

(25:19):
a different style of racing. It's just I'm trying to
like compare it to something like I don't know. It's
just fast paced, intense and uh less traction, less traction,
you're sliding more dangerous all of that. Like then the
races too, are only like thirty laps, so it's if

(25:39):
it goes great, like if there's no caution, like and
you're on a small track, like the race could be
done in seven minutes. But I mean like yeah, I
mean your heart rate is like I go from you know,
eighty to boom like one ninety in a lap, Like
it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Are you losing weight during a race in Nascar?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yeah, because it's so hot and long.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I'm small, Like I don't really track it a whole lot,
but the one time I did it, you know a
few years ago, and I lost like four pounds, but
like a bigger guy. I mean they probably losing over ten.
I bet you know the amount of fluids that you're losing.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
What's your favorite thing to race?

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I like honestly, Like I get that question a lot,
and I like racing everything that I do. Like I
wouldn't be racing, you know, in NASCAR if I didn't
like it, or sprint cars if I didn't like it.
But there's something about sprint cars on the dirt track.
Like I said, fourteen pounds almost thousand words power, Like
just that adrenaline that.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
You feel is incredible.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
But I also like the in NASCAR, like because it
is so different the two of them. Like the endurance,
the strategy, the team, you know, camaraderie with your pit
crew and pit stops and communicating with your team during
the race, like when you're racing dirt, like once you
get in the car, it's just all you and like
the decisions you're making, so it's different. I like the

(26:58):
I like the team aspect of NASCAR a lot.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, I remember that when I went and visited a
few times. Few races have been the Daytona, the New Hampshire.
And I remember watching Kyle Busch and I went into
his trailer or whatever, his fucking motor home. He sat
me and we looked at like fifty different pictures of

(27:21):
just angles car on the turn.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, and he was just sitting there. He's like, man,
see that turn, see that ache. That's not good. He's
looking over.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Hey, we gotta get Did you know it's crazy how
team oriented? Yeah, NASCAR really is. People don't realize. I mean,
it's it's fucking a team thing.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I mean, I have almost like five hundred people working
at Hendrick Motorsports for four cars.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, it's five hundred. It's a lot a car.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, It's it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
And then like two, you know, for us, and like
the data that we have to look at, Like I
can look at Kyle Busch's data and anybody in the
field's data and compare myself to them and try and
you know, figure out how either they're going faster than
me or like what I'm doing good, that's I'm you know,
got going for me, and they're probably all trying to work.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
To get that way.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
And so you're always constantly like studying, which is you
know unique that you know, we can see other drivers stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, it's very similar to football because we're all on
the same database where we're watching every The only thing
you can't watch is another team's practice. Yeah, but we
could watch all the games. We could watch all their cutups.
We can divide everything up all there. We want to
see all their third downs, all their third and threes
and it it's four. Which NASCAR has the parody, you know,

(28:38):
I mean you look at some of these other racing places.
I mean it's just the richest company that wins every time. Yeah, yeah,
you know, so like having that parody, everyone has a shot.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's like in our season, like I don't know, you'll
get sixteen to eighteen different winners.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah right, Like that's that's incredible. You know when you
look at Formula one, there might be three guys that
win all year, like four.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, it's it's stopping Lewis. There's a couple other.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I mean, Lewis will probably strug struggle to win this year,
but you know, Clarence and Max I feel like are
all that can win right now?

Speaker 4 (29:14):
No, our George, I guess just one.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Now, what's up with do those guys think they're the
best race car drivers?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I have no clue. I haven't. I haven't I never
talked to any of them, but I would imagine I
feel like they probably do just because the like the
perception and the media makes it out to be that way.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
But but then again, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think they probably also there's a lot of people
that they probably grew up racing with that didn't quite
make it, make it to Formula one that are now,
you know, racing IndyCar, like Alex Palo or really a
lot of guys that go to you know, IndyCar or
or sports car racing. They probably those drivers in F
one that have made it, they probably know that they're

(29:56):
extremely good and just didn't like timing didn't work out.
So so I don't know, that's a good question, Like
I would think, yeah, maybe they don't think that they
are the best. Yeah, Max the best, but you know,
maybe some of them know that a guy like Alex
below probably could have done just fine in Formula one.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I just wonder what their perspective is on the other races,
Like would they think it's just easier? But I don't
I don't understand how would it be easier because it's
like NASCAR, you're saying, yeah, NASCAR and Indie, Like, wouldn't
you think that it'd be come down to the best
driver in all equal environment?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Is Yeah, I don't know. It's to me, it's hard
to like know who's the best. And and I think
fortunately for me, like I have gotten the chance to
race in a lot of different top series and uh, honestly,
like everybody's good, Like everybody's really really good. So it's
hard to like say who is the best.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Now what NASCAR or what race car drivers do you
you look up to when you were growing.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Up, Jeff Gordon, you're being Northern California guy and dirt racer.
Uh really, I like to follow all the dirt racers,
So Jeff, Tony, Spacy, Caine, those guys are my guys.
So it was cool that I got to race with
all of them before they you know, exited NASCAR. But yeah,

(31:22):
I would say Jeff for sure, Like my first day
of kindergarten, I was wearing like full Jeff Gordon had
to toe you one.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Back everything. Yeah, du rainbow rainbow.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
One of the most iconic schemes of all time.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, first day of Kindergarten. Man, He yes, man.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, so now he's like my boss, so that's really cool.
He's a chairman at Andrick Motorsports.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
So yeah, now how is that having Jeff Gordon as
your boss? Did you ever bring you in and give
you a little like words of wisdom like.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah sometimes, yeah there, I am right there, let's go.
Jeff is Jeff is great because he's like it's it's
Jeff is funny because business Jeff like Hendrick Motorsports. Jeff
very serious, you know, like and it's hard for me
to take that serious because then I also see him
at the club and you know, like he's he's he's

(32:14):
like a DJ right, like he's got his own setup
and yeah, so it's hard for me to, like when
he is getting serious, to take him fully serious because
he's just like a kid. He's he's so cool, he's
down to earth, like it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Now it's his DJ name.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I don't know if he's got a DJ name. We
call him like DJ twenty four to seven.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I don't know if that ring to it.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, Like we went to dude, we went to Saint Bart's.
He invited me on vacation it's him and his wife,
me and my wife, Clint Boyer and his wife, and
then another friend of theirs. We're in this house and dude,
he rented a full like DJ set.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Like I don't know what they call that, the table
like the turntables, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
And then like speakers and all that, just to so
he could DJ while he was while we were on vacation.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I mean it was sick.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I really do think that's a new thing for friend groups. Yeah,
because I have a friend group where one of our
friends thinks he's a DJ as well. Who Garrison Spence.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Spence DJ when he ends you the ox scord doesn't
make it just because we give.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
You the ox courters. We got to bring out turntables, bro. Yeah,
but it's crazy, like that's a new thing. Like people
that come up with money when they're bored, they learn
how to DJ.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Yeah, Shacks do it?

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Shacks do me?

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Paras Hilton?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah, and his kids are his kids are getting ready
to go to college too, So I'm like, man, he's
gonna be that cool dad. Like what was it Will
Ferrell in the.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Picture in h at usc in his some threat. Oh
yeah recently did that?

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, that'll be Jeff, what's your favorite track of all
time in NASCAR?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Would be Bristol Bristol half mile, lots of banking, just
like super fast paced the whole time. Yeah, just intense,
like you're you catch traffic, lap traffic really quick and
you just like it's just quick moves, like you've got
no time to kind of sit back and relax.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
That was the thing they said about New Hampshire. There
wasn't a lot of berms, so it wasn't a fast track.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Right, Yeah, but New Hampshire, dude, it's it's got away hard.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, it's it doesn't have a lot of berm right.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
No, it's really really flat, but it's really bumpy. I've
not won there. It's a it's a challenging place. It's
uh it's a type of track that like takes a
lot of patience, Like you can really like get yourself
in trouble by trying too hard, where I tend to
try too hard often. So uh, yeah, it's a it's

(34:32):
a challenging place. But I like that track too. You know,
it's so crazy you know how you just like try hard.
It's kind of like when you play in like a
race video game and like you fucking blow up the
car and like, oh I got to read they like
try too hard and they really crash. Yeah, it's real
like this weekend, like I I got wiped out.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
I got wiped out.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
In the you know, seventh lap or whatever in the rain,
and it was like not my fault at all. I
was like, fuck, man, I I just wish I could
like hit reset. Yeah, I just want to respawn and
like go have fun. Like I'm not having any fun now.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
So yeah, now when it's raining, are you guys you
have to use different tires. Yeah, there a totally different
approach in rain.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
So I don't have much experience in rain. Like I
didn't grow up racing in the rain. So now that
like in NASCAR the last handful years, like we've been
allowed to race in the rain more, not on all tracks,
but road courses. We go to more road courses and
whatnot and even short track ovals. So like I'm like
learning on the fly, which is super challenging and difficult,

(35:40):
and like for me not growing up racing the rain,
like I've got no clue what to expect and like
so like you're like trying to build up to you
know your confidence on breaking and all that, and then
the thing with rain is like you step over it
a little bit, like you're done, you're crashing, like what
happened this weekend with Kyle Busch. So you like for

(36:01):
me and maybe guys that grew up racing the rain,
like they know what the limit feels like before you
get to the over the limit, where I don't know
until I get over the limits. So yeah, Chicago last year,
I like I was like building into a building, into
a building, into the breakstone and booms locked up straight
into the wall. So it's it's hard to how do

(36:23):
you practice it?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Can you?

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Like? You don't You don't get to practice. You don't.
We don't get to practice.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Picture my old head coach just sitting there with the
hose while you go by on the track rain this weekend.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, no, we don't get to practice, Like we don't
get to test, like are testing to limit, you know,
to save teams money.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
We don't test at all.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, we get twenty minutes of practice, so like, unless
it's raining in practice, that would be the only time.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
But it it does, it hasn't so crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
What's your least favorite track? Least favorite track I don't like.
I love the day two of five hund. I love
the event. I love that, you know, I want to
win it. It's the biggest race you have of our
season and all that. But like, I don't love that
style of racing, like the Daytona's and Talladega's because it's

(37:12):
just there's so much drafting, like where you're just like
jammed up drafting and then there's the big crashes and
all that.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Like it takes a lot of luck to win.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
It takes it takes talent for sure, to like position
yourself in the right spot. But I mean, you could
be doing a great job and then there's a big
crash and you're out, and I just don't like that.
You know, where the best driver and team who executed
that day, you know, wins. I like those ones where
Daytona and Talladega, you know, isn't really the case.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
There now when when when you're drafting, you guys are
in the big ass piles centimeters away from each other,
and fucking one of the guys decides to be a
fucking idiot right knocks everyone in starty.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Car pile up. Yeah, we're sitting there, are we getting off?
The track.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
I know, I've seen the public shit is there ever
like a group chat? Like a motherfucker, why the fuck
did you do that?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Now?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I can't get this goddamn point that dick face.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
So there is a group chat.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
There is a group chat with all the drivers, and
most of the time it's all like business like, hey,
you know, we got this big meeting coming up, you
know this time, this time, whatever, or but then there
has been a few times I've noticed for the last
couple of years, like somebody will say something little shitty
and then like somebody who maybe had a running with
that person like months before, like call them out, you know, And.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, that's always fun.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
So I like that he gets anyone using gyps in there.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, for sure, I'd have to go back and look.
But yes, there's it's rare. It's rare that you know,
there's any shit talking. I think most of the shit talking
either happens in their own private texts or phone calls
or person.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
But it's always funny. Yeah, when you see little drama
starting on the group chat.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Who's the one that's always trying to get a little
something in the group chat?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Oh, because are the bosses on there? Too or is
it like.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
The No, it's just like, well, there's there's a couple
group chats. There's just there's just the ones with the
drivers and then like the driver kind of the Jeff
Burton is like our rep that kind of like we
talk about things that he goes to NASCAR.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Is there a name for it?

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Just a bunch of shit could get it in.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
But when there's another there is another text that's got
like all the drivers plus like some executives from NASCAR,
and that one gets a little little awkward sometimes, like
when I don't know, say there's something happened in the
race and like somebody like like that was you know
what the fuck was that? You know?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
To now like calling NASCAR out.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
So those ones are I try not to get I
try not to get in the middle of those oh.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
My gosh, the thumbs up and keep.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
It yeah, giggling and the most passive aggressive person.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Bubba is not scared to say some shit on the
one with NASCAR. I feel like, baby, yeah, he'll he'll
get no.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Stuff in there, which is always it's it's deserving, but
it's maybe not the maybe not the place where it
could do it or but yeah, they're usually like any
and I'm sure I've done it too, but it's normally
like short, like quick, just little jabs, you know.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
But I'm sure Kyle Busch is definitely.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Oh yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Calmed down a lot, you know, the last few years,
but it's still in there. He's still got it in them.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Kyle, I mean that fucking guy I was telling you earlier.
I mean I did that New Hampshire. I was starting it.
You got to start at forty seven miles an hour. Yeah,
And like we already discussed, there's not good burm action
on that bad.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
So I always wondered, did they put you like you
just set the cruise control.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Set the crew, set the cruise. Now I'm in like
some fucking two thousand whatever year. It is seventeen Toyota
with no fucking spension, know nothing, So you know, you're
going into this turn. It feels kind of shitty, yeah,
you know, even though it's only forty seven miles an
hour or whatever. Forty six Yeah, So I'm going into
this turn and Kyle won the fucking pull and he

(41:14):
starts bumping me and waving to me. I'm like, what
the fuck is this guy doing I'm sitting here like
I'm not trying to look stupid, get recorded as shit,
like what the fuck is this? And then I have
my He didn't hit me, he rubbed me, yeah, and
rubbing his racing, right, yeah, that's right, rubbing his racing.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Oh yeah, look at you.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, look at that.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
I was look like a real life for his card driver.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yeah. I was young getting coached on how to do
it there a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I took the shifters out a couple times when I
was doing Oh yeah, cool. We'll be right back after
this quick break.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Let's go back in a time May twenty fifth, twenty
twenty five, when this two races in one day happened,
and we go over pop culture number one movie.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
This was like last week. We don't have to go
crazy right now, right now.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
This is a very nostalgic.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Leo Stitch didn't see it yet. My daughter's been dying
to see it. Luther by Kendrick Lamar in season Caesa.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
We need to go back to when Tony Stewart actually completed.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Oh I like that.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Let me do a little reason year that it had
to be like early two thousands.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Like, oh, that's a fun.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
What is Oh yeah, this is way too current.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
This is current.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
We can believe.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
What's the best race movie of all time? Days of
Thunder by far Days of Thunder can't not turn it? Yeah,
Days of Thunder.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
Senna is a great movie, like the documentary one of
Senna Harton Senna. Yeah, forty one. You have to watch it.
It's really good.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
One of my favorites is Rush.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Have you seen that one? I've seen Ricky Lauda and Samlada.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
I really like that one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I wonder how the new f one movie will be.
You think it'd be good.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Brad Pitt. Yeah, I mean we're trying to save the
movie industry. It better be fucking good.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I mean that's the only thing that is going to
go to the movie theaters see a race car. Yeah,
it comes out.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
I think they shot at this month of a lot
similar to like top Gun Mavericks or cameras. Like in
the car they do like really practical tributor.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah it movie guy.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, I mean I like watching movies.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Is that how you kill some times sometimes? Or you
watching a lot of kid movies with the kids.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Kid movies Yeah, Disney, Disney Plus's on all the time.
I like to catch up on like Netflix, you know,
and watch some like series and stuff on on flights.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
I just feel like there hasn't been that many good
movies to come out last few years.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
It's tough.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
It's kind of all turned to yeah, like Netflix stuff.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
If it is, it's all stream ship.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (43:43):
Back in back in May of two thousand and one,
when Tony did it, the Mummy Returns top of the
box office, Yeah, track was number two, the original Shrek
Original Shrek. We had Christina Aguilera topp in the chart
with Lady Mama Lade back back when culture was at
its height.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
What year was that one? First Super Bowl for Patriots?
That's right.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Do you guys like Talladega Nights? Is that movie funny
or is that dumb for you?

Speaker 4 (44:06):
I mean, I like the movie.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I think it did not do anything good for our sport.
I think it turned our sport into like a joke unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
But it is. I mean, that's gotta be like the
most one of the most popular rates.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
It's just a funny comedy with those boys.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, but that's just I feel like it just the
rest of the world like, that's what they think about
our sport.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Now, I still think of it as one of the
hottest short men of all time getting pulled over by
some really.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Great smoke show after winning the Dayton of five hundred. Yeah,
that's what I think of. The coolest thing.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Might be one of the best movie scenes in the
history of.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Movies, dude.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Or every time you see the NASCAR driver walk up
this little little like short steadily do with his girlfriend
that's about six inches taller than them.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
That's what I always used to say when I had
a taller girlfriend relationship, Like I'm a NASCAR driver about
to get in my car.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
But we are for a good NASCAR movie, like we
do for I think they're going to do well.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I've seen so Days of Thunder well.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I was with Jeff Gordon the other night and he's
good friends with Tom and he went to whatever the
premiere or whatever of mission possible. He's like, yeah, he
was right when I seen Tom. He's like, we're doing it.
We got to do another Days of Thunder, so let's go.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Yeah. I hope they do it.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
You're doing a cameo.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
If they ask you, I would absolutely be in it.
I would like to be in it.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
I asked you, we need you to be the bad guy,
the bad guy.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I don't feel like I'm the bad guy yet in
real racing, So I don't think I could be the
bad guy and heal.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Now do you guys think about that, like when you're
you're going over, like who's the heels and who's.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Well Denny Hamlin is definitely the heel right now, and
he plays it up so great though, like he and
like he's good. He's with the good team so he
can back it up too, so yeah, he's good.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I feel like us at Hendrick Motorsports, we like to
just like be you know, I feel like we're kind
of like the Patriots, Like I like, yeah, like there's
just like never any drama, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
That far with us.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Well well Gates buddy, Yeah yeah, But I don't know,
I never really looked at any of the players as
being like the bad guy.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah you know, well, I mean we had one of
those too.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
But I am curious though to that point, how much
like I know your teammates at Rake Hendrick, like Hendrick Motorsports,
but like, how like teammates are you really team, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, yeah, No, I mean I would say we're we're
definitely we work really hard together. Like we're in all
sorts of meetings with each other, full open book between
the crew chiefs and all that to see you know,
setups and strategies, and they're they're constantly communicating with each
other on the track. We're trying to work with each
other the best we can. But yeah, I mean, you

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definitely are battling your race. So we've all had, you know,
times where we've had run ins with each other and whatnot.
I ran into Chase Elliott a couple of times, and
and and you know, got some wins that way. So
we've had definitely some drama there, as you know other
teammates within. But overall, yeah, we're we work like super

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well together. I would say like Hendrick Motorsports probably does
the best job.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Of working together.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Well, what's what's the lap count on? What? No holds bar?
What's the lap count?

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Uh? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
You're not my teammate no more. We're both for this.
What's the lap count? Is it the last lap where
you guys are saying, fuck it, we're racing.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Wow, we got ten laps because there's a time where
you both the race car drivers. Yeah, you both want
to win because we all know there ain't no second place.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I got in trouble at Walkins Glenn, so I think
there's there is no lab count.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yeah, like that.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Another great race movie, cars, cars, cars, great roller coaster too, Yes,
Lightning McQueen, Lightning McQueen. Yeah, the kids love it.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, Jackie, why don't you break us down to this
beautiful race days start.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
We got to glaze up, Kyle real quick.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
Got you get some flowers, show some accolades. Thirty two
NASCAR Cup wins, seventeen Xfinity Series wins, four Craftsman Truck
Series wins. Co We know this dude dominates everything dirt related,
anything with four wheels. Brother, we talked about the thirty
two NASCAR Cup wins, Coca Cola six hundred finished in
twenty twenty one, won that bad boy won in Vegas.

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Three time NASCAR All Star Race winner. Kind of tight
that it's back at back at North Wilkesburg.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
Yeah, twenty fourteen Rookie of the Year. Right now, current times,
we're talking second in the points standings, three wins this season,
balling out a fifteen race. Sixteen races total, eleven top tens,
nine top five.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Get it?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
How many points do you get a win? Uh?

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Sixty?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
I think So you're down, You're down, Like you're not
not too far back.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, yeah, no, like if he had a bad and
I had a good one, yeah, you could get a
big swing. But William Byern my teammates leading. But yeah,
I don't know. You just want to, Like, so our
systems weird, Like winning is super important, Like if you win,
you get five bonus points that you carry over to
the playoffs, so like every win really can benefit your playoffs.
So yeah, you're just trying to win races and win

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stages during the races. So yeah, I just try to
do a good job, like all rays long, every weekend.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Now, describe your race style. What do you think your
race style is?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I would say I am very aggressive, fast, like on
the edge. Like I would say that I live kind
of on the edge and step over it often too.
But I live close to the edge compared to the most,
compared to most drivers, So I think that's where a
lot of my success comes from. But then that's also

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where a lot of my REX and DNFs, Like I
probably crash the most too, but I also win the most,
So I think that aggression probably stems from all that.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
It's a fine line, it is, yeah, And and for
a football player, it's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Like I could always remember redline, like our body is
our car, you know what I mean. And there's a
time where you have a ball in your hand and
you're breaking a tackle and there's three dudes comeing full speed.
Now do you do you want to try to break
this fucking thing? And or do you want to let
the party end? When you're young, dumbfull of come, you're

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trying to break it every time guys are hitting you
left and right, you know what I mean. But the
day you lose that is the day you lose your edge.
So it's it's fucking it's a crazy thing. And I
can only imagine for a racer.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
And that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
And that's kind of where like I feel like I'm
at my career is like how do I how do
I harness that?

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Like how do I still have that?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
A graduational recklessness?

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah? Yeah, how do I?

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:57):
How do I have that?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
And like how do I what's good about me and
about that, but also like tame it down enough to
where I'm not, you know, getting DNFs or whatever. But
I'm also still winning a lot and contending a lot.
So it's a you know, I think what makes Kyle
Larson Kyle Larson is that aggressiveness.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
But yeah, I do crash a lot.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Hey, it's part of it.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Now, what pro athlete from another sport would you say
you're most like?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Oh, man, I don't know, I don't know. I might
need your help with that.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
But somebody who's like versatile, you know, And I don't
know if like playing different sports versatile would be it
or playing different positions like in the same.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Yeah, speaking of double days. Speaking of double days.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Dion went down the helicopter, the same thing played in
a baseball game and a football game. You're Deon Sanders
a racing Yeah, I guess maybe Deon with ten tos
though with ten they had a carr on his toes.
I bet you still could run a four to four.
That's money, nah, not four four, but he could probably
hit four or six with that thing.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Now maybe that maybe maybe him just being able to
like race a lot of different types of cars, you'll
play a lot of different sports like he did.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Bo Jackson man, I like a bocomp.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Now, how do you choose? Did you get to choose
number five? Or they give that to you?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Uh no, they gave that to me.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Uh so Rick Hendrick, my owner, his son, Ricky Hendrick,
used to race a little bit and uh he unfortunately
passed away in a plane accident. So my paint scheme
number all that.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Uh well, the five.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And the seventeen that we use in Exfinity is like
his numbers. So it's kind of a cool touch on
on you know Ricky Hendrick.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Awesome.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Yeah, is there like a like a little like a
like when you're wearing another guy's number in the NFL,
you want to make him like a I remember like
Terry Lebonni used to rate five, Like, yeah, is there
a little like so I like a little club.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Well, so like at Darlington we have like a throwback race,
so we we the whole sport. I wouldn't say the
whole sport, but majority of the sport. Now, like we'll
all have different like throwback paint schemes to like you know,
beginning of time NASCAR or whatever you know works for
your team. So like for us, we've done Terry Labonni
the last couple of Yeah, Kellogg's dude, it's it's sick

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like it's such a cool paint scheme. And yeah I
had Terry out at the race and all that. So yeah,
I would say like that weekend especially is when you
want to like do do them? Proud crashed both times.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Hey, yeah, so you're gonna go fast?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
You can go fast into some Yeah, either Victory Lane
or that goddamn wall.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
We'll go fast.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Yeah, what's the coolest paint job of all time?

Speaker 3 (53:47):
You think your favorite?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
So another one I had Darlington throwback. It was the
Kyle Petty the mellow yellow. It looked under Yeah, pull
that one up. Days of Thunder paint scheme. Yeah, I
would say Iconic would be like Dale, Jeff Gordon, like Duplant.
I don't know, would you go a rainbow or that's sick?

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yeah, that's my car.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
That's so my dad's a mechanic, And like who's the
gas provider for this snokego?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
He would nowadays would be Snoko.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
But I think, yeah, well the gas companies.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
He owned the shop and they'd always send like if
he bought a certain amount of parts and ship. They'd
always send these NASCAR we get we had the medal
seventy six.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Oh yeah, back in the day, movie seventy six, any
other ones, Richard Petty forty three classic.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I mean, I do think that Terry the Bonnie Kellogg's
is like a pretty iconic one.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
It's up there, Mark Martin, remember Mark Martin the six
viaggricar bonmobile.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
That was iconic.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
The Jordan one's sick. Yeah, that was just because it's
Michael Jordan.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
We'll be right back after this quick break. Now take
us through your your teammates, your members. Yeah, like your
crew chief. Who's your crew chief?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Cliff Daniels.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Cliff Daniels, he'd be like the Bill Belichick of of
our sport. I feel like, just super intense, like no
time for bullshit. I like it though here for one
job and one and and Chack and Nows was his mentor,
also Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Who else do you guys have in there?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Who else do you have to deal with on a
as like a coach or or someone in that.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I mean, Cliff would be like a crew chief would
be like our coach. The engineers I would be I
would say you're kind of probably like your offensive coordinators.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
In a way, running the numbers for you tone Hey.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah, yeah, strategizing a little bit, pit crew, pit crew.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
What would that be like defensive line?

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Maybe that's on the offensive line.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
You kim, because they're they're like offensive line and trainers
put together.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Yeah, and then driver. I guess it'd be like quarterback.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
That sounds right. Gas man, that's like a trainer water guy.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
The gas man. Would that be like the center and the.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Gas man's kind of like the trainer? Yeah, in between
water breaks? Bro, you got yeah, yeah, give me a shot? Yeah, man, Yeah,
Joe get or Joe Gibbs, Yeah, like a legends.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
He's a legend, bro in our sport. I know, Is
he a legend in your sport? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (56:26):
I would say for sure.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I mean he's got to be.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I mean they've won how many NASCAR championships? And he's
what what three super Bowls?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Two?

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Two?

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Did he get? Three?

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Do you play retro ball on three? Three cell phone game?
And I always it blows my mind because I think
at Joe Gibbs, you know, I'm I think him is NASCAR,
Like I forget that he was a coach football coach,
but like on retro games, like you win the Super
Bowl or whatever, and it's like, you know, you're like
it shows your stats. It's like says Joe Gibbs, three championships.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
I'm like, wow, see this fucking you mean the NASCAR guy?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Yeah, well he was what early nineties, late eighties, soupies,
and then he jumped over to NASCAR in mid nineties, right,
it was in mid nineties, and then he came back
four to seven, four to seven, and then he came
back to football Reskins yea.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
And they went to the playoffs a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
So he's got two or three, three Super Bowl seventeen
one too.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
In Super Bowl, well, there was a strike.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
So there was a strike in like what ninety So
they had replacement players for the first three weeks really,
and so because the the players weren't going in because
of money contract stuff, and so they had replacements. But
then they broke the strike. They kicked the replacements out.
Washington Redskins. They played like a twelve game season that

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year and they won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I think kind of like an asterisk a little bit
a little I feel like there's strikes all the time.
Like I always read like football players and or NBA
whatever sport, Like I feel like there's always strikes.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
I find that interesting.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Yeah, well it's we have lockouts now there's no more strikes, okay,
or yeah, I guess it's the same thing, which is
the same thing, but the owners are doing it and
it's all because of the money. Yeah, I mean we
have you do you guys have a union? Yeah, a
driver's union.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Yeah, you guys probably that's kind of what that group
chat thing is.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
So like if you have a strong union, you probably
don't strike a lot because you guys are getting a
good deal. But a lot of the times with football
and and a lot of these other sports, you know,
the TV contracts are always going so up that like
you outgrow these things that you agreed to, and it's

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just a way.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
For there's a lot more players to a lot more players.
Well the top guys in the bottom guys in football,
the career span is so short three years.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Yeah, I know, that's wild man wild I Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I always it blows like how do people like survive
like when they get done, you know, like they're still
in their mid twenties and.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Their careers start a podcast.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Well, I'm saying like even guys like maybe that didn't
earn you know that much, Like it's just crazy and
they's got their whole.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Life to figure it out, honestly, bro.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, it's great about racing is like we could race,
you know, like you could break out and race and
cup you know, when you're eighteen twenty years old and
like go to your forty five more and what are
lucky in that aspect?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
What I would say to that is even if you're
if you got a couple of years or it only
got college or high school, you may not be doing
it for you know, a job, and you may have
a little pain, but the things that you learn from
football and team sport are going to be able to
serve you, yeah, for the rest of your life. And
if you keep that same mentality that you had in

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sport and transition into something else, that's where you're gaining
human capital. Not be that capital in your pocket, yeah,
but you're it's it's teaching you ship. So hopefully that's
what you think. A lot of that these guys take
from the game because we'd been playing it for free.
If we couldn't, you know, I love the game. I
don't you know what I mean? You guys race probably
for free for sure, now that it becomes a work job,

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you want to be compensated the right way. But you
know you can get it, Jackie, break us into the
double all right.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Leading up to this thing, we got to set the
stage here, so you get to Indy one in the afternoon.
Charlotte's more like six pm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Backing up, Yes, the fucking cannons that they blow off
go off like six thirty in the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Canon.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, you're right, God, yeah, you're stay in the track
and like you're up and at it at six six
in the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
For the five Yeah, what is it? I don't I
get the milk, I get the bricks. Like, what do
we gotta do with the cannons? That's a little much.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Yeah, it's why.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Fucking holiday babies race fans are rolling in, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Facts before them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
They got Gronk down there in the snake pit going nuts.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
Yeah, it was cool. He was really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
He's a fucking yeah. You guys got to chop it
up a little bit, just real quick. If he stood at.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Our car during like the national anthem and stuff, yeah,
and he.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Was Yeah, he was cool guy, he's our man, big boy.
I mean I'm a little guy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
He's a big boy guy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, I thought it was bio pause for I was like, man,
how does this compare to like the super Bowl? And
he's like, dude, this is bigger, Like this is cooler,
like the atmosphere is cooler than I've never been to
the super Bowl to watch. But he's like he blew up.
He was like, there's regular season games that feel bigger
than the super Bowl. Would you agree, well, like atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Wise, yes, because the super Bowl you have a lot
of fans of just the game. There there's no one
specific side because the the ticket prices are so expensive
that you're not getting the real freaking fan from South
Boston that is gonna yell the whole time, or you
know what I mean, it's a little more corporate.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
That's probably I guess what he meant. Then that's what
he meant.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
You know, it's such a race community in Indie that
the those people are just there for that, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
And you get that with the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
The super Bowl is an awesome event, but it's not
as big because we only have what eight eighty thousand
capacity stadiums maybe one hundred and one. You guys have
three hundred thousand people. There's a lot of people at
the super Bowl, but you see a mass amount of
people at once at this fucking race.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
You know, throughout the week there's a bunch of super
Bowl shit, but yeah, that's like one day just that
infield and thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
It looks so fun. It's like a bucket lit sports
event for us. I feel like we played a super
Bowl in Indy. We lost fucking giants, oh yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
We played it in Indie, and so we we had
like a welcome to the super Bowl weekend for our
family after a week of work is done. You go
there a week early, you practice, and then you welcome
your family's inn on Friday and stuff. And we used
the Indie track and you could take a lap in
the car and we had like a big party function

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for our family and stuff at the track.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Which is really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Cool embrace the Indianapolis of the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
It didn't turn out sweet though, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Yeah, I was just gonna say that brings us into
the continuing.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Eleven hundred total miles of the double. This day only five,
Kyle becomes a fifth guy to try it. That was
we talked a little bit earlier about Tony Stewart, John Andretti,
Robbie Gordon, Kurt Busch, and Al Kyle again, which brings.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Us in son right, Uh uh no, nephew.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
I think I think his Marco was in this race.
Who is his grands grandson. He can't have an Indy
five hundred on a Andretta. It feels like it's just
par for the course there, but then that gets us
into Indie, which starts the double U. As we said,
eleven hundred miles. Think of that as like it's like
Houston to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It probably be more than seven hours of racing and yeah,
seven hours like plus yeah, I would say eight to nine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
And it's it's raining out from the get go.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
Everyone's like sliding around cautioning flags pretty much. Seems like
like slick track from the jump, wouldn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:04:10):
I mean yeah probably? And uh I crashed, so yeah,
that's why that's why you got to lap ninety two.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Crashed after that little after the restart, everybody was kind
of tightened there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Could you take us through that a little bit, Kyle?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah, just restarts are crazy and incause it's so hard
to pass, like once you get going, just the the
turbulent air and all that. So like when restarts happened,
the pace is a little slower, so you're like trying
to get really aggressive. I got really aggressive and got
like really close to somebody and got tight or understeers
they would call it. And then like when you get

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I got out left and got a bunch of downforce
back in my car it like grabbed and spun and crashed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
So once you got out of the wind tunnel, yeah,
fucking yeah, it manipulated your car, Yeah, because returned or
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Yeah, yeah, so it got me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Dang, that's so fascinating. That's so so.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
The winner of that one ends up being Alex Polo
went into your decision to actually do the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Double, I don't know. So I've wanted to do it
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
So I used to race for Chip Ganassi in NASCAR,
and he's actually who Alex Polow won any five hundred for,
so like I felt like the opportunity was always going
to be there for me to do it. But like
where we were at NASCAR, like we weren't super competitive.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
You know, or at least like guaranteed, you know, to
make the playoffs. So I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I just felt like it was always going to take
too much focus away from what was important in NASCAR,
So I just did never do it when I was
a chip. Well, once I got with Hendrick Motorsports and
we're like consistently up front winning races and stuff, and
like our team is really solid, you know, I was like, Okay,
I think I could go do the double now. So
we had a great year in twenty twenty one, won
the championship and uh yeah, I asked Rick and Jeff

(01:05:54):
Gordon if I could do it, and they supported it.
So it took a long time though, I mean that
was twenty one and I didn't run it until twenty four,
so it was like a lot of planning and getting
with the right team and all that. So yeah, it
was a lot of waiting, I guess. So yeah, it
did not go well. It was kind of a bummer.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Now, now, who do you contact when you say I
want to jump into an Indy car?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Like was here? Like how did that go down?

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Just hey, I'm Kyle rs Here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
I first had asked Rick Hendrick because he was the
one that's going to flip the bill for it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Shout out Rick, Yeah, shout out Rick, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
And then uh, we're a Chevrolets and NASCAR, so it
had to be a Chevy team in an IndyCar and
there's so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Then then that kind of narrows your pool down. So then.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, we just got does someone have to sit out
because you're going in?

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
No so McLaren who I ran for, Yeah, they just
they always run an extra car for the five hundred,
So I was just in that extra car.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
That wasn't your first time driving an Indie car?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
No, No, so, I had done the DY five hundred
last year as well. But yeah, you have you have
a lot of practice days. Actually for the Indy five hundred,
it's like two weeks of every day you're on track,
so you get pretty familiar with the car, but like
you're never really in like a full racing situation. So
that's you know, where you get into the race. It's
just it's you're again for a guy like me, like

(01:07:23):
you're learning on the fly. I think it's different, which
is a fun challenge, but then yeah, then you know,
you make mistakes and it costs you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
So you're in the middle of NASCAR, are you. So
you're you're racing one weekend and then you're flying to
Indy to practice, and then you're racing back on a
Thursday to go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
For for doing the Indy five hundred. I basically my
motor home goes Indy, and so I raced at Kansas.
I think it says, yeah, May eleventh, raised Kansas, I
left there, flew to Indy and that was basically my
home for the couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
So was there, and then and we.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Had to do the All Star Race in North Wilkesboro,
so I didn't get to do any practice or qualifying
or heat race. So did qualifying at Indy and then
flew to North Carolina, did the Aulstar Race Sunday night,
and then back in Indie Monday, stayed there and then
back to Charlotte Saturday for practice and qualifying, and then yeah,

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back and forth Sunday for the race.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
So back and forth is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
So like for a normal person, normal driver, probably a lot.
But for me, like I'm never like in one place
for more than a day. So like for me to
get to stay in Indiana for a whole week, two
weeks basically was calm and like easy. So yeah, it

(01:08:46):
was that. I think that surprises people.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
For me, what did you learn from this whole thing
double race?

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Yeah, that's a good question. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I fucked up, So I learned to to probably take
a little bit more easy on the restart. But no,
I think for me, like just working with a different team,
your drivers that you know, different totally background than me,
seeing how they like communicate and work together, I think

(01:09:17):
was good to kind of take away and you can
implement that to how we work together as teammates on
the NASCAR side of things. So seeing how they kind
of look at things differently, how they describe their car,
what they look for and feel and set up, and
I'm sure they probably even look at me and how
I communicate from a NASCAR perspective too, So yeah, I

(01:09:38):
think there's definitely things to take away from it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
And then after the day ends early in Indie, what
goes into like the logistics between locations straight to the helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Yeah, so I had to go to the care center
to get checked out, and it's crazy, like it's such
a rush, like I never got to see the team,
you know, mechanics or anything. After I crashed, uh, you know,
out of the care center into a tahoe or suburban
whatever to the helipad helicopter to the airport and then

(01:10:08):
get on the plane and fly to Concord another helicopter
to the Charlotte Motor Speedway and yeah, really just straight
to the driver intro stage. So and that was with
me crashing it halfway right or whatever. Yeah, because there
was a forty five minute rain delay. So even without
the crash, like I wouldn't have been able to finish

(01:10:28):
because we were gonna start. We were this the NASCAR
race was the priority, so I would I was gonna
have to not finish thenty five hundred to get there
in time anyways, So that's crazy. Yeah, I probably couldn't
have gone a whole lot longer.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Anyways.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
She's just always looking at the clock. You kind of
know when you have to go.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Yeah, So like when we were sitting there on the
front stretch for the UH race and it starts, you know,
kind of spitting rain, Like I'm like, I know, I
only have you know, maybe thirty minutes of wiggle rooms.
I'm like look at my watch, like, God, damn, like,
I can't believe this is happening, because there was no
rain in the forecast, like it was zero percent chance
of rain.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Geez, and it fucking rains.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
So on the flight, you getting ivy Chipotle ball, what
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I didn't get an ivy this year just because I
didn't run very long and it was kind of cold,
so and I was just really just pissed at myself,
so I just didn't want to, Like I was just mad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Now you were mad going into the second race.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I was upset, but I was pretty well mentally reset,
you know by the time we got on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
You know, I feel like I move on from things
pretty quickly. So yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I was mentally in a good spot before the race.
And then yeah, we had a great, great race going
to start the six hundred, was leading, and uh yeah,
I just got loose, hit the wall, got damage, and
then we kind of had to fight through that for
the next couple hours. And then uh yeah, I was
gonna have a Okay, we weren't gonna win, but I was.

(01:11:53):
I felt like we could finish top ten. And then
then there was a big crash on the front stretch
and I got collected in it. So yeah, yeah, not
the way, not the way that I wanted my day
to go or thought that it could go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
But uh, it is what it is. Honestly, it's just
it's life.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
And I think it just shows that racing is difficult
and and you know, even for you know, good drivers,
not every race is gonna be perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Now we we we all talk about how in Indy
is such a huge.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Race city. We all forget that Charlotte is like Charlotte's
like the NASCAR, NASCAR Indy, right like that. That's so
explain what's it like racing and Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
It's well, I think I think I love Yeah, like
you said, it's very comparable with Indy, Like the community
in Indie is big, you know for racing. Same with Charlotte,
Like all the race teams are there, all the drivers
live there, all the mechanics, like you can't go anywhere
and not run into somebody from you know, the industry.
So lots of race fans obviously being in the South.

(01:12:55):
So yeah, the six hundred is is also one of
the biggest races, you know, of the season. Crowds always packed,
They do a they do a great job with like
the uh in some memorial days. So they honor military
veterans extremely well, probably better than any you know sport does.
I feel like NASCAR does a great job of that.

(01:13:15):
So yeah, and it's it's just it's a home race,
so like all the family members are there, all the
team members because a lot of you know, like I said,
there's almost five hundred people at work and not you know,
only a hundred of them maybe go or less than
that go on the weekend. So like when we're racing
at home, like they're all there. So it's it's on
and it's an important race to win.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Now, which one of these tracks have the best food?

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Best food?

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Oh you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Like so you're talking like food at the track or
just like out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Do you guys get like a catering from do you ever?
Like you're in Charlotte. Don't think I could ass barbecue there?
And like you got some dude from Charlotte spot like
hey got to get a little outside the city for
the good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
But I'm sure they have. It's fucking Nascar.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
These guys just send someone forty five minutes away to
go pick up a got you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
They got they got the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
The best barbecue would be Texas, I think in my opinion,
I'm Kansas City as well. But my favorite barbecue is
when we go to Texas called Hard.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Eight Barcue thing. It's like fifteen from the track. It's
really good, I would say for like track specific food though,
Like Martinsville is known for their hot dogs. I think
they're disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
They're like I don't know, they're like I don't know
if they like colored eye no or what, but they're
like they're like red.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Yeah, that's a little it's a little much, ye something red?

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Do you get a Dodger dog?

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
The other night, I got a They had Uber Eats
what like, yeah, say like an Uber Eats line, So
I wanted to try that. So I did Uber Eats uh,
and I got like a burger and garlic prize. The
guy like the driver like king you just like there's
like a specific line for it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Gotcha?

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Yeah, I was like, I want to see they come
to my seat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Guys submitted, but you skip the long line, so it's
still better.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Well that's a pro move.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Yeah we missed that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Yeah that's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Paying up charge for it probably but worth it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Yeah worth it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:10):
So let's break down this double so finishing just to
put a little bow on uh each race Indy Kyle
finished twenty fourth.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Alex Below won that one.

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
That was his third winning a row in Indy car
He won in Bama, Indy and Indy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Then we move into Charlotte. I know Adam a little bit.
You sent me a helmet for real.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
I think so that is that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I think it's right over there Janner. He's a big
he's a football fan. I think too. I had no
clue at Alexander or on my tripping there's an Alexander.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Adam Alexander, the Fox guy on the call, Adam Alexander, Yeah,
he's he's on the NASCAR broadcast.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Who's the guy that winner? Who won?

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Alexander ROSSI yeahs or cow guy?

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Yeah to that. He got me too many alex Is
alexes everywhere, dude. I'm more of a Dale junior guy
myself on this. We're talking on the call, but hey,
Dale sat and talked for like an hour at the
Daytona five hundred. He's a cool.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
He's a normal guy, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
And I just remember him on Wrangler commercials when I
was a kid. I always thought he was so cool.
Oh heck you Yeah, we got some indie.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Ship, got all the autographs on there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
What year seventeen it was a long beach, that was
the Long Beach it but it was from the indie
but it was at the Long Beach.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I did that? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
I did the Mario Andretti two car guy thing with
with a long beach.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Oh yeah, the two seater. Yeah yeah, it's bad and
Mario drive you yeah, Oh that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
It was. It was so cool. That was what like
five or four years ago, all.

Speaker 6 (01:16:38):
Right, And then in Charlotte Ross Chastain and got the
dub cof finished thirty seventh. Uh, wrecked on in that
multi car crash on Lap two forty six ninety nine car.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, took him.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
To go eleven hundred miles thing. We barely went like
six hundreds.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Dang. Yeah, not good. Tried though.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
I feel like that's like just the attempt is incredible
for the sport and the attention.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
No, it's a motorsport, so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Yeah, I definitely brought a lot of attention to it.
So that was that was really cool, you know, So
just wish would have gone better.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
But oh well, I.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Feel you man, maybe next time is there going to
be next time?

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
Not on the double probably, but hopefully a next time
as far as indy five hundred never sent ever, Yeah,
yeah maybe I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Just don't know how like they could like the logistics
couldn't be any because I mean the eighty five hundred
starts at like, yeah, twelve thirty one o'clock. That's pretty early,
I feel like, you know for guys on the West coast,
and then the six hundred, you know, it ends at
like eleven thirty pm, so like you can't really like
move them either direction to make that window bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
So but yeah, no, it's still cool. It's it's a
really uh it's cool. It's cool to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
That's an unbelievable feat to even try though, Like that's
thanks badass, bro, it is bountless. You crashed in this one.
You got to tell us what it feels like to
be in a crash now. Is it like when you
fall from like surfing a wave, if you're supposed to
just let the water do whatever it does to.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
You kind of? Yeah, like I always arms back, Yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
I take my hands off and just like, oh, I
hope this isn't gonna hurt, and sometimes it does. Sometimes
it doesn't hurt that bad, and you're like, wow, that
that was better than I expected. But uh, the Indy
Car surprisingly was like I never, like, if you look
at any of my crashes, you wouldn't say they were
like big. But man, this hits were pretty solid. So

(01:18:27):
that was surprising. But I've had some good ones. I've
I've flipped in Nascar, I've in the dirt racing stuff.
I've yeah, I've flipped like pretty hard where like the
blood kind of rushes in your like the GE's start
taking over, your hands are going and black my eyes out.
So yeah, that was that was fun. That was in

(01:18:48):
New Zealand too, so I was in a different country.
That was a bit odd. Yeah, I've had a lot
of big ones, for sure. Broke a rib bit taudegga.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
I'm sure I've had some concussions, but I'm never like
been diagnosed with them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Is it for real?

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
With like the the race car mentality, if someone gets
in a crash or something, you don't even talk to him, Okay,
we do, we don't talk. He's just for the jinx
factor or something. Is there any of that ship superstition
because you know, like whenever someone usually REX or something,
they always said they didn't stay TN or what days
of thunder where.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Like they don't Oh yes, they don't really talk. They
don't talk with the guys basically no, yeah, you know
what I mean, because they don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
They don't want that juju on them, like hey man, fuck,
we gotta worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
I don't know if it's the juju other than like
you just don't want to, like I think on that,
like you don't want to remind yourself like this is
this could happen.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
So maybe maybe there's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
See you guys hurt, yeah on the field, you know,
like you pay your respect, but not like try to
get away from it just because.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
I would say it's scary.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Yeah yeah, I would say more like that. But you
just don't want to see somebody get hurt never never
never never do and thankfully like our I feel like
our you know, you don't see it too often where
people are getting hurt anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Like seriously, technology, yeah, you know the technology nowadays and
the safety restrictions and in all sport, yeah, you know
that you go back and look at the helmets that
you know, they were probably racing in. We were playing
in like there was no fucking dude.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
So I guys, he told us, you watch like the
old ones and Dale or Hard, They're like, get fucking windbreakers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
I went to so I got to Brett Beach is
a big fanily, So I got to go to the
Chief facility a few weeks ago when we were at Kansas,
and they gave me one of Patrick's helmets.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
They're fucking heavy, Like, why are they so heavy?

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Because you need to distribute that fucking energy from What
about like the minium?

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
What about the way your minim of like hitting.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
The ground strength?

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Huh, your neck? You wear that thing for two weeks,
your neck gets so strong and you're always working your
neck Like it's not heavy to the guy because they've
been doing it their whole life. Yeah, you know, and
be you know if you have the strength the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
I just man, because I remember that I'm so heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I said the same thing because I used to when
I first got in the league, I used to wear
the right Dell. It was a lot lighter. And then
I started getting banged up and I went to the
Speed Revolution, and then I went to the Vices, which
was this other one, and it was fucking It was
like it was like, well, there's just more. There's more
like little gadgets and ship and spacing. You know, the

(01:21:31):
weight distribution is different, But I don't know if it's better.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I don't I'm not that yeah doctored into it. But
but I mean you've hit with a lot of different
types of heme. You can feel it, I'm sure the difference, right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Yeah, it feels like you're hitting with pillows. Yeah, just
because you see how like they're designed now with like
the shock absorption absorption, the type of material the helmet's
made out of. Everything's kind of like it's like dead
sounding almost.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Yeah. Why do you think more people don't wear the
Guardian things is because they look ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Yeah, that's fullian bullying. Yeah, bullying.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
I would imagine they're safer.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Yeah, but you guys were You can go tell that
to the guys playing in the seventies and the eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
Yeah, yeah, they look Yeah, No, it looks bad like.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
That, you know what I mean, that's really what it is.
It's a swag thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Yeah, Like the old timers will probably look at them like, say,
they're soft. The new guys are like smarter and like, well,
we're not going to be able to talk when we're eighty,
so fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
You one of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
We'll be right back after this quick break. What's the
one thing in racing that you still want to accomplish?

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Man, I guess Daytona five hundred would be, because I yeah,
I mean that's the only like Marquee Crown Jewel NASCAR
race that I haven't won yet, so I feel like
if I could win that, that would be like, yo,
that's really the last thing I feel like, you know,
I got Championship Cox, this hundred, Brickyard four hundred, All

(01:23:05):
Star Race, Bristol Night Race, Southern five hundred at Darlington,
like all of them, but the Daytona five hundred, So
probably yeah, probably that one.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Save the best for last, Yeah, yeah, the best.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Now, let's name the Let's name the game and score
the game. That's what we usually call it. But this
is the race of races. Score the races. Let's name
the races. We've been calling it the Double. These are
a group of names we came up with. Anyone that
you want to pick, we'll go with it. That we
got the double, the double duty, the Indie Charlotte Double,

(01:23:37):
the Indie co Cook eleven hundred. That's a mouthful, India
co Cook not a reader football player.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
And the Memorial Day Double? Any of which one do
you like?

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
Of those?

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Which one do I like?

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Or do you have something that you like to call it?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
I like the double, but the Memorial Day Double just
sounds like classy to me, so I kind of like that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
A Vintai is that thing, little little bow tie like that,
kind of like a mullet.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Memorial Day double.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
You know, the Memorial Days. The business part the double
is the party in the back. Right, Let's go score
the game. Is this the greatest races of all time?
Let's score it. Steaks Kyle, zero to ten decimals are
okay on your double race day?

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
The stakes of this day.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
The steaks of the day, like how it went or
how I view.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
How you viewing up to the Yeah, oh god, there's
only people to do it in the history of their life.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Like like a super Bowl would be like a ten stakes,
like depending yeah, yeah, it's a super Bowl. It's usually
like a nine to two space.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Would be very I mean, it's gotta be high, like
a nine to one or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
That's a great, great score, really good. It's a good score.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
That's a really good integrity score because usually a person
that says really high. I was instantaneously ten yes, yeah,
Like Mark Cuban came on here, he's just throwing out
tens and fus up everything and we understand you're a
marketing guy. Okay for me, I mean five people in
the history of racing have done this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Gotta go nine two, I go seven eight, little loll
fucking rush and make it bigger.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
I like geopolitics, like the Miracle and ice. You get
some high stakes. It's not just on the field, they're
on the track.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
It's you know, he's also a hockey weirdo.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Okay, I'm a hockeydo yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Star power of this these races. You got stars on
two different demographics. You've got NASCAR stars and you've got
Indy Car stars, and there's probably hell of stars.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
There watching Tom Brady and Gronk Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Ground pretty gave me the crowd. That's pretty good for
by all of Indianapolis and loving it letting them happen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Yeah, he just had to lead him on. What do
you say, I gotta leave him down one more good drive? Yeah,
that's pretty that's pretty baller, pretty baller.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Oh man, probably uh eight seven.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
For Gronk for ground eighty seven, eighty seven, I'm gonna
go eight point one two. He put one double double decimals. Okay,
right on, well an eight point one A we're in
the same ball some point one. Nice.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
You see what he did and you see what I did.
You're like the guy on prices right that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:27):
Oh you did?

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
I did Brady? I just did Brady come one. I
didn't even get that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Sorry, Sorry, game play, the race play of the races
didn't turn out exactly the way we wanted to, not quite.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Now are we ranking my my performance like a like
a zero point two.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
That's gonna sink us.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
Yeah, that's not gonna it was bad.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
I'm going with the least a six point nine. Also
for Gronk, fork at a seven to three, at.

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
A six point one, very generous.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Yeah, dude, you literally crash one race and you say,
fuck it. I don't need to get crash another one.
I don't need to get my head check crash on.
Let's go race against run it back, run it back,
you hit the reset button, bro respond respond to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
The respond different drag duard in both races. That's where
the point two comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
All right, then we name or regrade the name of
the game, this being the Memorial Day Double classy, but
also has a little party in the back that we
call it the motor.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
We're ranking the name of rank the name.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
If you just say that name, like, everybody knows what
you mean kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Okay, Memorial Day Day double and early.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
This just happened, So I don't know how the test
of time is going to view this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
No, that's hard. It's hard. Uh yeah, a seven seven.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
I like that. It's a good score. I'm gonna go
with the seven point two nine point four, nine point four.
If you say the double, everyone knows what you mean.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Yeah, nine point four?

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Where does this ran?

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Highest score of them all?

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
I'm a double guy. Okay, six point four to three,
it's seven point seven point two point one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Where does it rank on all the games? Races, fights?

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
It's gonna be our new sixty eighth. Shout out your
amor yager. Just behind the twenty eleven Stanley Cup Final
Game seven Bruins Canucks and just ahead of the Letterman
Jacket game Texans versus Patriots Week fourteen.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Here, Wow, solid, what's what's p one?

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
I like that you see that. That's a racer. That's
a racer.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
It's a little Patriots heavy twenty eight to three game.
There's no bias here, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
It's also only games we've done yet.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Yeah, and that is a pretty epic game. Like regardless,
if you hate the Patriots, don't hate the Patriots. You
know about the twenty eight to three deficits of the race.

Speaker 6 (01:28:56):
I gotta say, while we're while we're talking our greatest
games and we're talking with Kyle, our first racer, I
got a two fold question for Kyle.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Who are some other racers we gotta have on? And
what's like a race we gotta do? Okay, that's a
great one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Oh man, you would love Talladega. I feel like you
like to party tallade like that racer to have on here.
I mean, Kyle Busch is always.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Good, fucking Kyle. We'll give us some sound bites.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Noah Gregson is probably the most fun driver in the
sportst Ryan Blaney's sneaky fun. I feel like, okay, yeah,
there would be some good ones in NASCAR.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I like that, I might have to get small nny.
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
I think he's gonna come on at some point.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
Ye would actually be really good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Is there?

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
Like you like the best race of all time? Like, oh,
the nineteen ninety two Daytona five were.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Like I feel like when.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
When Tony Stewart and Carl Edwards were tied in points
going into the final the playoff system was a little
different back then. There were still points, so they were
tied and points going to the last race, so whoever
finished ahead of whoever, which I guess is kind of
like it is now, but just for it to be
points and then be tied and going to the last race,
and then they finished first and second.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
In the race.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
Wow, that was That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
Tony had to like overcome some adversity at some point
in the race a couple different times maybe, and like
drove his ass off, won the race, won the championship
twenty eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
I think add to it as Tony Stewart was one
of the first guys that I learned that wasn't Jeff
Gordon or Dale Earnhardt or the Petties. Because my my
first day at Kent State. I went to school in Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
All right. We had a fucking tackles and tight end
coach named a J. Pratt.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
A J Pratt tackles and tight ends, and he used
to call his kids smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
Like, why do you call him smoke? Bro? He's like,
he's like a little Tony Stewart. He's crazy. So I
started watching Tony Stewart because it's funny. Fucking a J.
Pratt shout out. I think he's a what is he a?
He's a ad at a Catholic school. Well, Kyle, did
we miss anything from the Memorial Day.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Double Hindercars dot Com, Chevrolet or McLaren Amazon Prime?

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Yeah, I got it all. Let's go social channels for you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Kyle Larsen racing on ig go check them out on
all of the what he's on every goddamn race circuit.
We can check him out, but mostly on NASCAR. I
turn number one right now. Yeah, because Hendrick's racing. Ye
part of the big dogs. Go check him out there.
Chevrolet just got me a high country suburban.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Then that's right, Yeah, got one. They're legit.

Speaker 7 (01:31:39):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
I got to get sick.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
I gotta get a I want to make mine kind
of look like an urban apocalypse truck though, So I
don't want to make it lifted, but I need a
little space reaction with maybe a okay, you know something.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
I want to make it look like an urban apocalypse
stand out a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
I wanted to not stand out a little bit, but
I I want to beef it up a little But
I don't want to make it all lifted out, okay,
because I still have to go into carpooling.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
Yeah, just level it then, God, what's your daily driver?
By the way, the high country summer?

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
You got it like a tricked out one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
No, it's just I mean whatever, like thankfully being a
chevy guy like you can just submit kind of whatever
you want.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
So I just maxed out whatever was on there. But
it's just black with black wheels.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
And yeah, what's different is because we have three kids
and my wife she wants the bench seats.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
I got the bench seat one captains. Yeah, one kid,
you gotta go bench though, Yeah, I like bench.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
You gotta go bench. Did do you have any cool
cars like olds or anything?

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
I got a I'm not really a car person, but
my grandpa was restored a nineteen forty Pontiacs.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
That one's kind of gangster looking.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
I got a sixty nine C ten I like that.
And then I've got a Corvette the ZO six, like
mid engine one. And then I got the new thousand
horsepower zero one coming here.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
I think badass.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Yeah, man, I drove. We were just some Michigan spent
to their proving grounds last week and it's like scary fast,
like too fast. It's it's awesome, though.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
I think my next car, I want a sixty three
sting Ray split window.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Course, so that was my.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Barrett Jackson this year, and now it's like, man, I
want the split window.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Split window sixty three. I think that thing's so sick. Yeah,
the Coop I have. I have a They're so expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
It's like a five hundred thousand because it's fiberglass. And
that was only the one year that they split the window,
you know, so it's like a it's a collector. I
got a sixty eight GT five hundred forward. But we
were chevy people growing up.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
But yeah, where do you keep that stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Not here?

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
I have one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
It's it's at the shop right now, but I keep
it here. Yeah, I only have one. And then I
drive the burb and.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
Your electric dirt bikes.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Oh yeah, right, dirt bikes or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
No, what what dirt bike do you have?

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Though? I got the e Ride XRS.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Okay, it's they're they're stupid. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
They they go like seventy five miles an hour and
there's no combustion, so like you go right there and
yeah it's gone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Drove that Tesla for a while. Those electric cars are
so crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
When I was at the Chevy proving rounds we did.
I've never driven an electric vehicle other than like a
golf car. Yeah, but yeah, they had like the Corvette
like E Ray and yeah, like you like power break
it and then just go and it's like, I mean,
you're it's like zero to sixty and like three seconds, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
The Tesla yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
S I think goes zero to sixty and one point
nine seconds, one point one point ninety second standard like
the it's it's so crazy. You feel the G four. Well, Kyle,
thank you so much for coming to BRO.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Yeah, thanks a lot, man, He's so cool.

Speaker 6 (01:34:55):
That was awesome. The first of mini racers. I hope
I know what do you wear over there, Dude, I
got a gamer. Should I standing up and stand up
and show maybe one of the nicest gifts we have
been presented you as a pro racer. Let's go, baby,
I'm a pit roll right now, you feel like you're
a racer.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
I know, what do you think? I like it feeling fast?

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
You look fast. Maybe see somebody in the pitch. I'm like,
give me a dirty look to fight him on pit
ro jack. Growing up with Michael Clarke Dunkan my pit
crew chief.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Five foot eleven, hot bab bringing him to his car.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
This just makes me want to get Jack in a
jockey outfit.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Hey, I'd do a jockey too. I don't know what
just sayer car, car.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Car, I would say the horse, probably because it's not
as fast.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
I'm just so scared of those bad boys, you know
what I mean? They run your what are they going
thirty miles an hour?

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
I'm just bringing back where those guys are going two
hundred miles an hour in like machine stuff. Yeah, cars,
that's kind of like that's like rugby versus football.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Yeah. No, not as fast as.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
It hit, but it's still it could be dangerous because
it's less protection you have no pain because of the protection.
It makes it more dangerous because it weaponizes it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
I'm just looking back to having that five 't eleven
girlfriend give him a smooch, be like up Astra, He'll
pick me up.

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Here brother, today we're gonna pull back the curtain on
how the media works in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Let's get into it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:40):
Yeah, just a little pull back the curtain, and well
back the curtain, Kyler and I get to kind of
play play fans and bounce it off you and see
what really goes on in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
Let's see in this sector that is the media. All right.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
Today we're focusing on you know, we've done injuries, coming
back from injuries, contract negotiations. We're trying to paint the
whole ecosystem and get that insider info. All right, let's
go with this himself. Let's kick it off with what
is like media training, like in the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
NFL when you get drafted, At least when I was
getting drafted. I still believe they still have it. You
go to a rookie symposium. Now, undrafted guys don't go,
but all the draftees they go to a symposium and
it's a seminar that breaks up into classes and workshops

(01:37:26):
and a lot of game type learning activities in order
to like inform guys about the wealth they're about to
come into, how to deal with agents, how to deal
with the media. I'm sure nowadays they probably have a
workshop or a station that's about social media because it's

(01:37:47):
such a big impact and it kind of walks these
guys through the introductory stages of what it's like being
in the NFL with all these responsibilities.

Speaker 5 (01:37:56):
Is that where Chris Carter tells you get a fall guy?

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's where Chris he says, you gotta get
a fall guy. So media has worked into that. Now
it's also broken down each team with all their rookies.
Usually the rookies have a certain amount of hours that
they could be at the facility to learn rookie stuff.

(01:38:22):
So like after organized team activities or mini camps or
even training camp two days a week, the rookies have
to stick around for a presentation of whatever that theme
is for that day, and sometimes it would be media.
How to handle the media In New England, we used

(01:38:44):
to have we used to have one of the generals.
He was the guy who handled the media. He was
in the Navy. He handled the media immediately after nine
to eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
For the White House.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
He would come in and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Teach us basically how to deflect, how to dictate, and
how to take control of an interviewer.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
When you're being.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
Asked a question, how do you do that? Well, whatever
someone answers or asks you, you can answer however you
want right And there's also deflection things where you don't
you know, we always had like keywords where ask coach Belichick,
you know, if we got uncomfortable, if we didn't know
what to say, like outs, outs, we had outs. And

(01:39:36):
the only reason we would do this, and we would
do these little media teachings or handlings or seminars, is
because we didn't want the media to be astracted a distraction.
And you know, I know Bill gets a terrible rap
for how he handles the media, but like that's just strategic,

(01:39:57):
so he doesn't give anything to the media. That was
that other guys sometimes do. Like if you listen to
a head coach going into a game, sometimes they'll give
you the first goddamn fifteen plays they're gonna run because
they're gonna tell you we've been emphasizing this, this, this, this,
and it gives you, you know, it gives you a
little advantage if you if you're listening, you know what

(01:40:19):
I mean. So, or if you listen to a guy say, hey,
you know, this whole week, we've been working on our
drop back pass game because we feel like, all right,
so fellas put your antennas up. They got some drop
back pass that we're gonna be seeing, you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
It's stuff like that that can be used as an
advantage for your opposing team. So that's how why Bill
would bring in certain people like this guy who deflected
everything after not eleven, show us little techniques. But that's
why he would do it because we didn't want to
a give anything to the opponent. B.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
We didn't want to make any.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
Distractions because football and pro football for an athlete and
a coach is hard enough. It's fucking hard to win
the National Football League. Okay, now try doing it when
you have a spygate a fucking a murder, a fucking deflate.
Like then it makes it even crazier because all you're
being asked after that point is about that specific thing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
So it becomes distraction.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
And that's something that happened because of how maybe someone
handled it in the media, you know, So we were
just always taught that, like, we're here to get better,
and because that's ultimately what we're really there to do.
You're not lying and you're not just giving a line.
That's literally what the focus should try to be. Like

(01:41:41):
when you ask someone about an injury, Okay, if you
go out as a player and you say, well, you know,
I think I'll be back in six weeks. Okay, comes
back in four weeks. Oh, well, the doctor didn't know
what he was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Is he ready? Is he ready? Is he not?

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
Comes back in four weeks and gets hurt again? Oh
was it too soon?

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
All right? He says six weeks? It takes eight weeks?
Oh what the setback was there?

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
A setback? Was the rehab terrible? Oh he's not healing?
So you know, why would we go out and say that,
because all you're gonna have to do is answer about
that again. So like that's what you know, getting better
each day in the injury thing. The whole injury answer
that you always hear is because that's the honest truth.
You don't want to put a deadline on something that
you have to be accountable for when you don't really

(01:42:28):
know how your body's going to react, because yes, that's
what it is for standard, but you could be either
above or below the standard on that specific injury.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
So, like, there's just a bunch of ways.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
That we were taught literally taught on how to handle
the media through you know, multiple different ways, you know,
with the team, with the NFL our team, individual team
was a little like a little more about it, and
that was just so we didn't make a distraction, which
is an oxymoron considering what's going on North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
What were some of your favorite like deflections or like
go to like out phrases.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
My favorite was always just asked Bill, Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
If I'm like, oh, Brady's been hurt, is he gonna
be there's whispers if he's going to be playing, do
you have any information on that?

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
You just go well on that I would speak more.
There was a set of lines speak for yourself, Okay,
put the team first, don't believe the hype. Ignore Like
there's all these little things. So if I'm not, I can't.
I can't speak for Tom. You go ask Tom, Go
ask to ask Tom. You don't want to speak for someone.
So that was something that he wel always talk about.

(01:43:39):
Give me another one. Let's try it again.

Speaker 6 (01:43:41):
Look like you got a little banged up on that
third and seven catch out there.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
How are you feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Uh, you know it's after a game. We were all
banged up after a game. Uh, you know, we'll go
in this week and try to get our body back
to the best we can.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
You know it's gonna be against another new tough opponent.
But it was good to get out of here with
a win and get that play in. But you know,
after games, we all were all banged up.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
There's a lot of controversies surrounding the most recent wide
receiver signing, a lot of people saying that it shouldn't
have signed this guy amidst everything he's got going on
off the field. Well, can you tell us how it's
going in the wide receiver room.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Look, you'd have to ask coach on that. I'm just
here to worry about improving myself. All I keep hearing
is if we all individually improve ourselves, collectively will improve
as a team. So I'm just taking Coach Belichick's words
and I'm trying to improve myself.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
You can ask coach on that.

Speaker 6 (01:44:33):
You just lost forty three to seven, second straight loss.
What needs to change around here?

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
We need to fucking coaching staff this place, fucking son.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
Uh. You know, it's tough to win a national football league.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
You know, we got to get back to the little things.
It all starts with practice. So I'm sure that we're
gonna have, you know, a good week of practice this
week to give ourselves the best or best opportunity to
go out when we need to practice better.

Speaker 6 (01:45:02):
Were there ever we just did a fun little roleplay exercise?
There was there ever like a a practice role play
with you guys, like before the season.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Yeah, okay, Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
It would be like that would literally call like the
rookie guy like all right now, Uh rookie, how fast
are you going to be?

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Uh? You just got hurt. How many weeks are you out? Uh?
And the guy if he was listening, but he'd be like, yeah,
I don't know day to day, day to day, you know,
what I mean, it would be like you passed. Yeah,
it was always so much easier for the defense as usual.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Always were there reporters that were a little bit more
safer than other reporters. Uh, what do you mean, like
Mike Reese knows the deal and he's not going to
come in. Yeah, you you kind of knew just through
local beat reporters, national report.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Honestly, I think the local people in Boston have always
been like I was always pretty decent with.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
All of them.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
I feel like I never felt like none of them.
I never had a bad instant where I felt like
someone was out to get me or you know, I
understand if you understand what they're trying to do and
what they have to do, and sometimes you don't because
it's right after a game and you're emotionally, physically, mentally exhausted.

(01:46:26):
But their livelihood is to try to report on your team.
And this reporting, essentially is what makes our sport our sport,
you know, giving the media access to the players which
the fans get are granted and that's what it makes
the thing go. So it's hard to understand that as
a player sometimes, but I felt like we were everyone

(01:46:49):
was pretty I mean, there's guys, I felt pretty decent
with everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
We were also a decade into like the Belichick regime.
They kind of all knew the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
We had a lot of media in our locker room always,
but it would get heatned up when we would play,
like in the playoffs, and you know when you get
the people that are coming from the other cities that
we don't play very often, how they would ask questions
would be different than.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
How the cowboys are in town.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Yeah, like they don't know how how we handle our meat,
you know what I mean. So but I felt, you know,
Boston gets this whole rap. You know, their sport talk
is crazy, you know, whether it's the radio is But
we didn't see those people in the day to day
locker room, you know, like the people that were all
the beat writers and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
I remember when fucking Ian Rappaport was a little beat writer.
A bunch of the.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Guys on the on the on the TV now that
are all like, yeah, big TV guys. They all started
doing this ship, you know, and then they hustle.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
They're hustlers.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
They're in there every day trying to make a fucking story.
And you got to think about that, and you know,
it's not our job to give them a story, but
it kind of is.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
No, it's true.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
So it's like when you don't understand that relationship isn't
even taking the You're right, what they provide to the game,
it's changes the whole perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
You know, And it is it is hard for an athlete.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
After you get your teeth kicked in and you lose
a crazy game and you know they got asked the questions,
but it is hard to answer or answer questions that
you think at the time are stupid, right, but it
you know what I mean, it's it's part of it.
And I think that the media, you know, there's a
lot you could tell that there's a lot more media

(01:48:35):
training now for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:48:36):
And you think about a city, I mean, I'm a
homer for sure, but like you think about Boston. What
other city has two twenty four hour sports networks, two
news major newspapers with like Hall of Fame level columnists,
insane sports radio that like is I mean like making.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
You got there's probably like the yeah, like three there's
like Chicago has probably New York probably has that.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
Dallas just for football, Yeah, but Dallas doesn't have the
network they don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
They don't.

Speaker 6 (01:49:04):
They don't have like NBC Sports Boston to that capacity,
Like do they not?

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
I don't think so. New York. I think they have
their own Yeah. New York does for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:49:14):
But it's just it's I feel like the like you said,
the microscope and wanting to make stories and be in
there every day, and like, you know, the level of
professionalism is is really turned up in Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
I don't yeah, yeah, but I just think it's you
can use the media like you can use them in
a positive fashion.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
Yeah. You know, there's there's countless guys that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Always got to break with them because of how they
treated them. You know, you look at like how Matthew
Slater would you know, like if if you like, he
would always treat the you know, the everyone with so
much respect that because of that respect, they would out
of respect, they wouldn't ask him stupid questions.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
I like that, know, you can how you are to
them is how you're gonna be treated.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Yeah, so get them on your side. I'm with you, you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
Know what I mean a little bit, And I you know,
I I don't know, I'd be tired in some some
days with certain certain people, but there's no hard feelings
now now that I'm in this side of on this
side of the the line, It's like now I appreciate
what they do because I'm sitting there, not in New
England anymore, and we still have to talk about them.

(01:50:28):
I love to hear about what's going on with the Patriots.
I'm I'm relying on the beat writers now on what's
going on, even though I know, you know with what
they write is you know always.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
You know, you still get something out of it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:42):
I was gonna say, because when it's training, camp time
or even practic'd refreshing Mike Reece's Twitter like Mike, Yeah,
they're the voice of the what's going on and keeping
it real?

Speaker 5 (01:50:50):
How often, like what are your media responsibilities like through
any given week during the regular.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Media responsibilities, you are available if you are not hurt
every day to the media Monday through Thursday, or Monday
through Monday through Friday, or could be Wednesday, Thursday Friday,
like our our main practice days after practice media is
in there, or or it's before practice.

Speaker 5 (01:51:13):
And available meets like in the locker room after or
like you have.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
To be available for That was another thing like half
of our guys, like more than half of our guys.
Whenever the media was in there during the regular day
was like out they they didn't want to Everyone was
so scared to say something wrong that no one wanted
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
The media scattered, so everyone would like be in the
weight room.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Or you know someone and you know, usually you have
certain guys that would talk, and you had certain days
after a while that you would go. Usually it was
probably like once a week.

Speaker 5 (01:51:47):
When did they when were they allowed in the locker room?

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
They've been they've been a win.

Speaker 5 (01:51:51):
Yeah, Like is there like a there's just after practice.
There's an hour that they can be.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
So during the work week practice or during practice week,
they're there an hour Like right before you're about to
go out to I think is it before I think
it used to be before. It used to be before practice.
And then after the game you have ten minutes to
like clear your thoughts and then they come in right

(01:52:16):
after ten minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:52:18):
That's kind of crazy, and then you might get called
to the podium. Then then Stacy James is like our
media guy. He would call certain the certain and round
up the guys that would go to the media, or
he would kind of give you the you know, hey,
we're just going to do you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
At the locker.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
He was like the main point of contact for everything
between with everything, Like if you didn't go do media
for a couple of days, Stacey would come and say,
you know, yeah I've done You haven't done media in
a couple of days. You know, the NFL can find you.
You know, it would kind of be a reminder. And
he he used to have to like, yes, he used

(01:52:55):
to have to deal with everyone, you know, coaches, players,
anything to do with the media, Stacey James, He's.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
Dealt with us on the other side when we were
doing the documentary.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Yeah, that's such a tough job.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
I can't imagine going to the head coach after getting
losing in a soup, Hey coach, we got to go
do media or you know, grabbing Tom or grabbing Gronk
or you know, he had to grab everyone at the
highest of the highs, but also the lowest the lows.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
That's brutal.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
So was he if and if say you did slip
up and you did give him a sound bite and
you did say throw somebody under the bus, is Stacy
the guy you go talk to?

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Or they would call you.

Speaker 5 (01:53:34):
What happens if, like someone says something that gets to
be national news or Bolton Bore material.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Oh, that very next day, team meeting eight o'clock sharp
could be headlining the fucking coaches meeting things, not what
to do in the media. So the whole team is here,
the whole team, Oh jeez, this is an example of
what we are not supposed to do, and then play

(01:53:59):
like a clip, play the clip, read the clipping.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
No, but did he do it to Light? Didn't Light
say he did it to him?

Speaker 5 (01:54:08):
I believe that for the the media thing, yeah yeah,
or the union players, yeah, were there any like habitual
line steppers.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
No, Because what.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Our coach would do is before, like in his teaching
on how to do the media, he would grab examples
from other teams, like this is like what we're not
supposed to do, okay, and then the guy would say, yeah,
you know, you know it's it's look, it's fucking mini

(01:54:39):
camps like this guy was in college last year and
this is what he says, and it'd go like, look,
you know, I think I'm going double digit sacks this year.
I'm the fastest, and then Bill he would read it,
But how he would read it would fuck it, everyone

(01:55:00):
start laughing his ship.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Look, he'd read it like elevens.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
He'd have like a little like fucking Lawrence Taylor didn't
even do that. And then he'd keep reading you know
what I mean, yeah, just like just killing the kid.
And then he'd go like uh and then and then
uh yeah. So he would give us examples on what
not to do.

Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 5 (01:55:25):
That's that's the guys that like regularly show up Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
No, it would be current because those guys could say
stuff to Bill and Marshawn Lynch. It'd be like a
no name guy saying something that like is fuel on
the fire for the other guys.

Speaker 5 (01:55:46):
What part of your career did you start getting a
little bit more leeway and not just for like you know, interviews,
but with some of the media that we were doing
social media, commercial social media would.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
Say after the super Bowl, super Bowl, and know, I
mean after the first big contract maybe yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
You know it's a New England medium moment.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
I really like And I would like to find this
specific item when Chris Long wore the Julian Edelman mask locker,
I want to find that we got to get that
in the nuthouse, freaking log behind that again, I.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
Don't even know. He just bought.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
He spent like two thousand dollars on getting a mask
made of my face, and he did the media in
my yellow shirt, my red beanie in my mask.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
We have the picture. I put it in there. Fucking Kyle.
I think about that, like kind of word.

Speaker 5 (01:56:35):
Chris kind of nailed it, he kind of did.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
Is that your Those are my earphones that I used
to wear all the time?

Speaker 5 (01:56:47):
Is that a red J eleven?

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
No, that's the I would always turn my hat inside out,
so it was just red.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
I don't know why I think about that like somewhat often.
He's so fun, he's he was a fun teammate. Chris
is the man in the nut man.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
But yeah, it's It's also media is very different now
because a lot of these you know, it's going to
be interesting to see what the league does because a
lot of these guys won't say anything to the league's media,
and then they just hold it on their podcast, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
Brilliant, which is smart, absolutely, which is brilliant. Like Micah yep,
and there's the Saint Brown's Brown's Yep. I mean the
Kels Kels. Absolutely, they're the pioneers of it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
Really, there's other guys that do it, but like they
were really like two prime guys active that were Prime
Active Stars.

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
Yeah, guys that weren't going to get the call you
know every Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Prime Active Stars.

Speaker 6 (01:57:42):
What do you think would happen if, say, the year
is twenty seventeen and you went to New England's head
coach and said, starting a podcast coach.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
Weekly. We talk football every week. I have guests on
you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
And at that point in my career, if if it
was done, I used to do a radio show that
the team did, right, would we would do the radio
show for like you would do the radio show and
they would give you like a hundred flights.

Speaker 3 (01:58:16):
Of Jet blue. Oh that's what you get for it. Yeah,
that's pretty cool, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
make it mint.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Yeah, mint nice, but you get taxed on it, so
you're paying thirty three cents a dollar. But regardless, you
would do like you would get paid stuff for that
radio show that was associated with the organization. So if
I knew what I know now, what I would have
done is probably formulate my own and make it. We're

(01:58:44):
out about things I was comfortable talking about and then
hire my own my own advertisement, so I can make
money directly instead.

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
Of brain free.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
I would I would probably, Yeah, that's what the guys
are doing now, you know, because like.

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
I mean, we were pitching games with names and making
games with names of thing when you were still playing,
like we were going to set that up now we
did not yet We were pitching it and it would
all kind of happened right when you were starting. No,
I thought we that was like twenty nineteen, but we developed,
We were developing it to do while you were still
an active player.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
We were a podcast, not games with names. We didn't
know the concept.

Speaker 5 (01:59:23):
Because the reason why we did it Evergreen and on
Tuesdays was because off day and it wouldn't be touching hot,
taky shit and you could record a bach.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
We can never interview someone on a Tuesday. This wasn't
thought about until at least nineteen. But you were still
playing in nineteen I know, but it wasn't seventeen. Woll
semantic and we were still active. You were still active
two years we were formulated. While seventeen and nineteen that's
two super Bowl I had a good football left to
be played. Yeah, that's a different that's difference. And like

(01:59:54):
we were, if you were active.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
Or not that if you had played another year, you
probably would have been doing this show while you were active.
Now it wouldn't have been like talking about fucking the
game right after the fact. We probably would have recorded
a bunch in a row in the off season and
dropped them out.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
It was hard for me to do that stuff though
I know like I would, I don't know if I
would have been able to do it, because you gotta
be able like that's we also.

Speaker 5 (02:00:19):
Didn't know what. We didn't know at at that point,
right about what and.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
It wasn't what it is now. Active guys, we didn't
know what we were doing.

Speaker 7 (02:00:26):
Then.

Speaker 3 (02:00:27):
I did think about the team whenever we did anything.
That's what difference between you and most other guys.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
You know what I mean, Like I, I didn't want
to get too big with in loud with our stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
What if your play starts slipping?

Speaker 5 (02:00:43):
And then remember remember with the fucking NFL Films documentary
in Mexico that you recorded that we were down in
like June or something in Mexico. You tore your a
cl and then that August or whatever, and then that
aired after you tore your a CL and people were like,
as you skateboarding with an a c L. They couldn't
comprehend that we did it off and there was a

(02:01:03):
lot of heat. Not a lot, but there was enough
people talking about that, so ship like that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
Yeah, it's just sad because you got to think about it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:10):
There's no I in team, but there is an I
on Instagram, and there's I in Twitter and TikTok and
Twitter and TikTok. Yeah, you gotta think about that. No
YouTube makes no sense at all, But I'm just saying it.
You tube, there is a two B, there is a tube. Okay,
all right, I think it was terrible.

Speaker 5 (02:01:28):
Sure we've missed a lot of questions. I'm sure we've
missed a lot of like intricacies that people might want
to know about the NFL media. So please the media landscape,
So please put your questions in the YouTube comment section
or anywhere you can comment. We've been pulling them and
doing it. So any more questions and nuanced on this stuff,
please let us know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:44):
About educating the fans. Yeah, shout out Mike.

Speaker 5 (02:01:46):
Grease Starstruck at Our at our premiere, Mike Greese was like,
oh my.

Speaker 3 (02:01:52):
God, wrote like my first article. I think that's cool.
He went to a Jewish camp with the soft He's
got Aura Mikes Aura, Mike. Mike Reese felt safe because.

Speaker 6 (02:02:02):
He's a good he's straight up man. He's not some
gotcha guy.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Yeah, he's a legit and he would he would like
let you know when he like, sorry, cheels, I gotta
ask it. But you know, like literally you could see
in his eyes and it hurt him that he had
to ask me a certain question like yeah, I don't
even know.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
But you know, probably he's getting pressure to get some
stuff too. Yeah, shout out.

Speaker 3 (02:02:24):
Mike, shut up, Tom, Jeff.

Speaker 5 (02:02:28):
How was good to Liz?

Speaker 3 (02:02:30):
Who's Elizabeth? What was her? She was always always we
always talked about back, our backs. She had bad back.
I was gonna say, did you develop a little bit
of a personal I mean you've seen these people from
twelve years you know?

Speaker 1 (02:02:41):
Yeah, I mean we know birthdays, kin bar Mitzvah's. I
mean you see it all.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
I love that shout out loves so you should get
him on. Oh I would love to have on. I
watched it fun. We gotta get so on. Hey.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
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