The Mo Lewis Game with Rich Eisen | Jets vs. Patriots - Games with Names

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is this the lowest game of all No, it is
going to be our new Oh thank god we beat
Team Barstool versus ND Alumni.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It was the Jets.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I would never be able to sleep. My game is
when Tom Brady came into the NFL.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Rich, Yes, we miss anything on this game.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, the significance of it than Welcome to Games of Names.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm Julian Edelman, they're Jack and Kyler, and we're on
a mission to find the greatest game of all time.
And on today's episode, we are covering week two of
the two thousand and one season Jets versus Patriots with
legendary Sports Center cast Jets fan and Michigan man Rich Eyesen,

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and we're talking if tom Brady was inevitable.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I believe in the butterfly effect, but Tom Brady is
a self made man.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
His journey back to Sports Center.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
And I never thought I'd be back on ESPN or
Disney Plus or Sports Center, but.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You were ready. I was ready. And his viral play
by play calls wide right.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I mean the ball went wide right.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Rich, I think I'm got a tool bell. And then
we talk about what it's like to be a rookie
in this week's Chill Zone presented by Corp's Light. You
gotta stick around to the end. Let's go Games with
Names of production of iHeart Radio, September twenty third, two
thousand and one, Foxborough Stadium, Foxborough, Massachusetts.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
A massive hitch rocks the one hundred million dollar quarterback
and incomes Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Junior.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
This is the mole Lewis game. Welcome to Games with
Names Today. We are looking at the mo Lewis game
New England Patriots versus the Jet on the second week

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of the two thousand and one season, with legendary Where's
Where's Where's our legendary? We have Rich Eisen in the
studios right, thank you so much? In one sentence, Why
this game?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Because I did the Sports Center highlight of this game,
and I didn't know about it until I redid my
Sports Center for the first time in twenty two years.
They found that out when I was getting ready to
do Sports Center for the first time in twenty two
years twenty two in support of my show going to
Disney Plus. They were like, did you know you did
the Tom Brady highlight of I'm like, well, there's been

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many Tom Brady highlights like what are you talking about? Like, no,
when he came in, you know, the moment and might
get out of here, and they found it and it
blew me away. And I figured when you invited me
back to be a two timer, which I guess also
means that I do other podcasts and you're upset about it,
I'm too timing you or am I? No? No?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean, if you're coming, it's you're it's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's a good thing'll beyond game two games. So yeah,
that's why I'm like, you know what, if I'm coming back,
let's choose that since many ways this podcast room is
in existence because of a moment like that, because of
you like that exactly the best one sentence in a while,

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that is that is a good one. I don't talk
in one sentence. I mean you're asking me to just.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
We have a bet for me. We always have a
bet after the guest leaves, who keeps it to one
sentence and who doesn't.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And if you noticed, I gave you a sentence. I
saw that, and then I expounded, I gave you a paragraph.
If you want, I can give you more than that.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Not yet, not yet.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
This highlight was there anything like foreshadowy, nothing zero like
John Madden.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I watched it back again. We popped it on the
If you will return Sports Center. We put it on there,
and it's you know, it was big because it was
I believe the first game back post nine to eleven. Yep,
So it was you know, the highlight led with the
I think the Andrews brothers right, and then it was

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just you know, uh the way that I guess the
Jets took the lead, and then it was just as
simple as like, here comes Moe Lewis and for Drew
Bledsoe and of course I made a Michigan reference with
Brady just trotting out and they lost the game and
it was final score, Jets win.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
And that was as simple as.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
That, not like, well, our lives will never be the same,
you know, like and with the NFL will never be
the same. The Patriots will never be the same. Pretty
much anybody in the organization's lives will never be the same.
There is zero point zero indication other than the fact
that Bledsoe would significantly hurt and we all we all know,
so I figured, let's choose this.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
This is a fun game to explore. But before we do.
Is it the greatest game of all time?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
No? Man, the game wasn't. What is the greatest game
of all time?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Time? Everyone asked, like, the game of all time? Any
sport anything, any sport anything.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Geez, I wasn't prepared for this greatest game of all time.
I mean for something like that, you've got to have
something that's unexpected or the stakes have got to be
bigger than just a regular season, right.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You gotta be okay, but this, the butterfly effects of
this game is pretty.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's why I chose this, because of the butterfly effect.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
This room without it is.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You're not wrong. It's what I said literally three minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Okay, So you know I heard as an interviewer, I
learned from a good interviewer. Once I heard this, repeat,
repeat it. No, he said, listen to what the guy says.
So I was just trying to bring back to what
you said into a follow up.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I shouldn't I shouldn't push, you know, I'm just trying
to be coaching what you need to do. If I
may give you another let's get a note. You have
to wait longer. You have to wait longer than when
I say it, and you can't do it the next
three minutes. That makes the person think that you haven't
listened to me, But you did listen to me. If
you brought it back later on, that's like we and

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then call it either a callback call back or a
nice move by you. If it's the very last thing,
we say like you've brought it full circle. And also
you could wind up if there's enough time, take credit
for yourself that you said it. You know, that's the
way you can handle it. But that's the honest always
learning from you or jewels. I'm here for you. I'm
here for thirty forty years of this stuff. Can I

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ask you one quick question before we start? I'm sorry?
Can you tell me I don't mean to take control?
But I'm a control freak. It's difficult for me to
be the answer the A of the Q and A sometimes,
But I just went into your Do we call it
the games with names?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Restroom? Is that what it is? Over there?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Now? That's for the guests to utilize. You don't utilize
it yourself. Always?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay? Great?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
And by the way, a fantastic array of amenities in there.
You know, breath mint are they? Are they your sponsors?
That's okay, Noe wipes. That's that. When I saw that,
it made me think of this question. Has any games
with names guests? Dropped a deuce in there?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes? One.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do we know who it is?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, Rob Gronkowski, Gronk before we started doing Dudes on dudes.
I think he actually took a dump in there. All
we were filming another. Yeah he Now we have our.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Own show with Gronk that we filmed.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
There is that dropping a deuce or with him? With him,
it's spiking a deuce.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Okay, So I think the copy they call it Gronky's.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh my god, no, now I mean that. That's now
my life is complete that I asked this question. There's
an actual answer.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
There was an actual answer.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Wow, man, Now do we know why? Because it was
one of the sixth senses or.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Dumps? You know, you do know, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Not like Sark's got a camera in there with the face,
but you.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Just when that door opens up and he comes out.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
And he says, I made a boom boom. No he okay, he.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Just kind of handles his business goes and.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
He's got a little more peppinist step, a little more
peppinist shot.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
It okay, good to know, but you definitely know.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm sorry. I mean, I just was wondering that my
bad the floor is yours back.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, let's get back to it. You're back with the
ESPN Plus. Yeah, buddy, the Rich Eisen Show being aired
on there. But I also saw you calling the game
in Brazil. How was that experience? Amazing? And you do
these international games all the time.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Which are but never his first time below the equator
not a metaphor for anything. I've never been to Brazil
and never been below the equator, and never been that
close to Antarctica in my life. And you know, it
was wild. Eleven and a half hour flights down, arrived
Thursday morning, do the game Friday night, then fly back

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right after the game, so over like a ninety hour period.
I spent twenty two hours on a plane. Never done
that before, But just being down there and being in
a different environment, different spot. Have you ever been to
South Paulo before?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I've been to Rio, I haven't been to South Campero.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
South Paulo is the largest city I've ever been in
my entire life. And I grew up in New York
and went to college in Chicago, you know, grad school
in Chicago. I've never seen anything like it. Was sprawling,
twenty three million people, like apparently you could take the
populations of New York and Los Angeles and it's all
right there. I've never seen anything like it. And there
were football fans everywhere, were there everywhere I was. The

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stadium was it mostly it's like a soccer stadium. It's
like forty seven thousand, so it it. It's not an
NFL stadium. Yeah, backed out totally. Oh yeah. There were
more Chiefs fans there than Charger fans one hundred percent.
And I'm sitting there going, oh man, the Chargers gave
up a home game for this, and it's Chiefs fans everywhere.
They came out and hit him in the mouth, man

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in the mouth, in the mouth, and still at that
late stage, Mahomes almost had a chance to win. He
almost got the ball back with a chance to win it.
But I love calling games, and because everything that I've
done in my career is either talking about a game
before it in the pregame or after it in a

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highlight show. So to be able to one to describe
the action in real time, and the challenge of living
up to the moment and make making sure you don't
talk too much so everyone at home actually gets a
sense of what it's like to be at the game.
It's like a big puzzle to put together, and I
love it. I'll get bummed every single time the game
is over. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Man, I can't

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get enough of it.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, there's something about it. It's you definitely got to
be on your wit in your cues because I'll mess
around and do it at my house. I've never actually
done it, but I saw your interview recently with Al
Michaels and you asked him, what's a what's a game
that you think of that you called? Well, what's a
game that you think of that you called?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Man? A game that I called that? Like, you're the
one that you're most proud of, the biggest game whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm proud of a cop Like there was a Chiefs
Dolphins game in Frankfurt that was big going in, but
really wasn't that scintillating while it was happening. You know,
there's one that just doesn't leap out at me. I
like the ones I call in the United States because
I'm not flying twelve hours and getting you to fifteen
time zones to call it. But like I said, I

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just I love it. I can't get enough of it,
and being in these well I guess I should. There
is one that leaves out at me. It was it
was Brady in the Bucks versus Pete Carroll and the
Seahawks in Munich. First game in Munich, and they both
Tom and Pete and their postgame podium said it felt
like a super Bowl and it really did.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I swear to God. So frank So Frankfurt was the high.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
High was Munich. The Munich is the high and Frankfurt
Frankfort was a different stadium. Munich Stadium is unbelievable. It's
it's quite large and there are It's an incredible city
with a massive history. And obviously you know there's some
football fans everywhere, but in Munich particular that that was
the most intense football fan where I'm going through the

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beer gardens the day before and just strolling through it,
think we'll see what football fans. I meet them everywhere,
and it's like the United Nations of uniforms. They're they're
where in every all thirty two teams are repped. There
are fans coming from because it was in Germany, and
I had never called a game outside of London internationally,

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and Germany is geographically closer to Africa and the Middle East,
so like, hey, I'm serving in Kuwait, so I came
here or I was in you know, I live in Egypt,
and this is as close as the NFL's come and
I'm coming to the game here. And then you go
to the game and there's German speaking fans everywhere, so

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it's not like Americans who are flying out there. Truly
is an international scene. And it did feel like a
Super Bowl, certainly with Tom playing in it and his
face everywhere in the city and the Seahawks come in.
It was awesome. It was an incredible game. And of
course in the game, you know, calling a game, it's

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it's wild, trying to expect to the unexpected. And you know,
Brady at one point hands it off to Fournett, who
throws it to Tom and none of us saw that
one coming at.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
All, especially after the Super Bowl. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
And the turf was really slick because and that's why
a lot of these turfs internationally are an issue for
some players, is because if you're playing on the soccer surface.
It's better for those players to have a slicker turf
because the ball sides. And also they're not used to

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having three hundred pound people having to put their foot
down on the ground and plants, so they don't care,
which is why the NFL has now for these international
games essentially taken over the stadium there's in Tottenham. The
NFL has provided the facility with their turf. So when
there's an NFL game, out goes the Tottenham turf, incomes

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the NFL turf.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Now as a grasser is a turf, it's both. They're
all hybrids, so they're hybrids.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
And so the one in Brazil, the game last year
between the Eagles was that patent not great at all,
So you know the league hears it and they don't
want that to be the issue. In July, they basically
shut the stadium down, brought in this device.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
They showed me a video of it.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's the size of a pickup truck, but it's like
this massive sewing machine on wheels where they would jam
these fibers seven feet into the ground to stitch the
stadium together. It's grass on top, but hybrid fibers in
wow and you know, the Chiefs in the and the
Chargers went out and they were like pounting the turf

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with their fifths, saying, this is really hard, but we're
going to be able to run real fast. And it
wasn't an issue with this game at all. So the
NFL is basically taken. They took over the stadium in
July to do it. But like I said, I I
love it, can't get enough of it. Want to call
more games as much as I possibly can.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
What's what was it like working YouTube?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Great?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah? Yeah, and because this is a new this is
a human about it splash for just sports media in general.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Oh yeah, this whole YouTube YouTube TV. They were great.
They were great to work with. They they hired the
NBC Sports crew to produce it. They were as a
plus professionals as possibly come. The YouTube people were extremely
welcoming and they also wanted to make it their own,
which meant they were influencers and content creators all over
the place over And I'm fifty six years old. I've

(15:28):
never felt older in my entire life. Yeah, you know,
and just trying to you know, Oh, so you are
so and so and you've got ninety million followers and
you make thirty million dollars a year. Oh okay, great, great,
nice to meet you. Yeah, you know, and they're like,
and you are, And I'm like, oh, I've been doing
this for thirty years, and you know, how are you
my fellow children? You know, like, what what's that? That

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that Steve Boucemi you do?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah? You know right, how are you? Fellow kids?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like That's how I felt with ball cap Walking In.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Watching the broadcast. I thought they were because they were
bringing such a different audience to it. I thought it
was really cool. They had the little educational like segments
where they would explain the mic in the quarterback and
how they got the play communicator. There's a bunch of
cool stuff. And then you would see all these influencers,

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like you said, yeah, destroying was on the sidelines. They
were all there.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, and I was busting his chops because he had
a YouTube hat on. Hey this is where this No,
there was at least yeah, but it wasn't NFL logo.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It was a YouTube logo.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
And I'm like, hey, listen, man, you may be new media,
but traditional media takes stuff for free too, So I'm
glad to see that you're getting at least that part
of the traditional media of stuff. We all get a
little swag. Although my twelve year old daughter tells me
that's an old phrase now to swag. She's making fun
of me, and I guess that's what it is. My
wife and I called like, let's take in the swag
store of her new school that she's in, and she's like,

(16:54):
oh my god, Like that's a problem. Still say my
rolling phase right now? How old your kid.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Get nine to need eighty nine? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Soon? So she it's a she right, yeah, yeah, she's
starting roll in her eyes at you yet it's a
few years from now, but get ready for it.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's the dropping off at school. We're like, dad, don't hunk.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, you're about to You're you're suddenly in that zone
of about to start embarrassing her.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh I already do. I've rolled the window down by
a little and she'll like walk and uh what are
we doing?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
But yeah, so it was it was great to see
the influencer side of things, the content creator side of things.
Uh on the show, you know, I was like on
the show, Rich, I trust me, I'm I'm I'm already
working on getting a lot of uh YouTube stars on
the program for sure, just for dad points at home,

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but also they're incredibly popular and and you know, I
was ready to be walking and go, you know, we're
the Rich Eisen Show. YouTube channel is almost a million followers.
I'm gonna get this neat little plaque. And they're like,
probably get.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Out of you.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You're a million, you're a million subscribers. They're really popular.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
And I thought the graphics package for the YouTube game
was really clean and it looked exactly like you're watching
a game on YouTube. It looked different, but it also
was YouTube traditional enough that people aren't gonna be like
this is this is tough to watch or anything like that.
And it sounded great, look great. Couldn't have been happier.
Couldn't have been happier.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Now, where do you think the future of NFL broadcast
scene is gonna go? How?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
So?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
What do you mean, just like you see how they're
assigning players, we're going into streaming. What do you think
just the future of it is? Are we going to
continue to just go this route or there?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I think this is what it is. I think the
Internet everyone it keeps asking about the international games. I
might have talked about it with you when I was
a one time or on this program. But I don't
think they're playing these games internationally to create international teams abroad.
I just don't think or even you're hearing, Well, we're
gonna have a pod, we're gonna have a division, we're
gonna expand, and it's gonna be four teams playing internationally

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and they're gonna play each other a lot, like go
on the road. They're gonna come to America and have
like a four game road trip.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It doesn't work until there's a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
No, I know that, but it just doesn't. It doesn't
work the competition wise, but also trying to get a
team together, like you know, suddenly, hey, guess what, you're
now drafted and playing in Munich, you now live in Germany,
or free agents like who wants to go home and say, hey,
we can get a boatload of money, but you're gonna
leave school. You're gonna leave home our beautiful dream home
that we built with my first contract. Let's put it

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in off balls, let's let's let's let's you know, time
share it like it's a It's a very difficult thing
to coaching staffs trying to get coaching staffs to move.
It's not going to be easy. I think what they're
trying to do is just create another package of games
and a fourth window of action where you know, you'll
play outside of the Eastern time zone on a Fronday,

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like playing in Brazil, you're only one hour ahead of
the Eastern time zone. But you're not going to do
that on a Sunday because there's Sunday Night Football or
one o'clock games or what have you, four o'clock games.
But you can do it on a Friday, and you
do it on a Friday. That there's a reason why
the NFL plays on Fridays to the first week of
the season and the day after the Thanksgiving is because

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that's outside of high schools football season. And there, you know,
for their for their contract that they basically have with
the United States government, for the lack of better phrase,
for their for their ability.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
To have high school to have their day.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, high school that has to have their day for
the NFL to to have the financial setup that they
were allowed to have legally in the United States. Bottom
line is there are opportunities to play outside of Europe
on occasion, but mostly you're going to be playing games
in Europe in that fourth early window non am eastern
six o'clock Pacific window of football. And I think that's

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what you're basically going to have.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Me and Gronk pitch to Rog we should do Wednesday
night games and we would do like a a stream
cast of it.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
How did that pitch?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
It is? Luke warm? Luke warm?

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Now what are you going with the.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Were hey, dude, we just need a game on Wednesday.
We'd love to do it.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Do you go to his office telling this ire at
a YouTube thing actually out on the spot. Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm sure, I'm sure. Did he say come to my
office we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
He said he wasn't opposed to it.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
He said what he said, done Wednesday night football is
on think Christmas and during COVID they had done Wednesday
night football.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I played on a Wednesdays. He seemed like that was enough.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, listen, I've been around Roger Goodell for twenty two
twenty three years now.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
That was a no.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I think he's you got a soft note hard hard
hard No is a G T F O H from
r G. But you know, he told me it was
basically saying nice, nice to see it. You know, I'm
a big fan of your work, but that's a no.
I'd move on if I were you. I think it
is that dream. But don't take my work. I'm not

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you keep doing man. You never say never.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I know, but on the personification that I never thought
i'd be back on ESPN or Disney Plus or Sports.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Center, but you were ready. I was ready. You're always
how come you're always ready? You always have, Like like
last week you go viral with the wide right, like
perfectly put in, like do you come up.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
With I don't know what you're talking about. I mean
the ball went wide right, so I was describing an
extra point that I missed. I would have said wide left,
but you said I mean because it was right.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I think tool be.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know what you're saying other than the fact
that I was describing the action, which is my job when.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'm calling a game. It was a great job.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Thank you. I appreciate it. I heard about people thinking
that I meant something else, but I mean I was
just it went wide right. It was another field goal
went in. I said it was right down the middle,
so it was a little right right down the middle,
so I said, down the middle and then he made
another one and it was a huge, big feel goal.
Before the end of the half, I was like, what

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I kick by Butcker and credit old like similar to
something like that.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
So how these kickers, man, they're they're kicking like the
who was a Boswell who had a fifty nine.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Sixties the Jets with a sixty sixty for.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
A game winner, like, these are nuts. It's nuts now,
and there is. Granted, there are some of these bad
kicks like Moody. I feel sorry for him, but gosh,
the kickers right now are just killing it. I think
they're elite. Now. You're a Jets fan, grew up a
Jet fan? No more?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh, I mean I'm calling their game in London, and
so I'm I mean, I don't. I will tell you
this man, and anybody who knows me knows I am
telling the truth. I would give anything, right parts of
bodies for a game that comes down to the last minute.
It doesn't matter me who wins. I do not care.

(23:52):
I do not care. I swear to you, I don't care.
But I don't want to hear like, oh, you're rooting
for the Jets because you grew up a Jet fan
or anything like that. I don't care the dead for Broncas.
By the way, I adore. One of my favorite humans
that I've gotten to meet in my twenty two plus
years in the NFL is Sean Payton.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Love that guy. He's like a rock star. I can
tell you quick Sean Payton. So let's hear a Sean Payton.
I take the story.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
So I've known Sean for a while. We've done all
sorts of fun time fun stuff like at a combine
one night, three in the morning, We're riding mechanical bulls
and doing shots and stuff like that, and it was
one of the few times where I was concerned about
answering the bell for my next day of work. The
only other person in the NFL has got me drunker

(24:34):
than Sean Payton did that night is Steve Bashatti at
the Baltimore Ravens, who invited the entire crew from NFL
Network onto his yacht before a Thursday night football game,
before the harball before the hardball game. I'm thanksgiving, you know,
to get the media going their way, and you know,
and he had us on board and he was serving
this great red wine about the entire crew, entire crew.

(24:56):
The NFL networks invited because it was the Thanksgiving for
Thanksgiving before the Thanksgiving game, and we were doing a
nine am Eastern at the stadium pregame show and he
just wouldn't let me leave the boat. Mayock wouldn't let
leave the boat? Who else wouldn't He wouldn't let lea
people leave the boat. Then he busted out cigars. I'm
not a cigar smoker. I inhaled a couple of times

(25:17):
and got sick to my frigging stomach. I was in
badge on the boat. On the boat, woke up the
next morning, I'm like, oh my god, big ass problem.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
He got a call.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I could not. I wasn't gonna make the broadcast. Stacey
Dale's the number two overall pick in the WNBA draft
of the Washington Mystics. She was part of the the
crew and she saw I was in deep dire trouble
in the green room. So she's like, I got this.
Did you know that if you take a gatorade and

(25:46):
put emergency you know that powder into the gatorade, pound
it and eat a banana, greatest hangover.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Cure, or you canna put an alka selser in there.
Didn't know that that is on the sideline. By the way,
is that why you have that all in the bathroom there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay, good. So cured my hangover right away, like got
up shot out of a cannon. I'm on the air.
Twenty minutes into the broadcast. I got a text from
Brashati saying, how the hell are you doing this right now?
He saw it was in such bad shape with Sean
Payton that night in Indianapolis, were riding the mechanical bull.
We're all good times. So post game of the Super

(26:21):
Bowl win in Miami, they win the Super Bowl, they
beat Indianapolis, and he comes to the set right after
the game and he is so fired up, he is
so pumped up, and he sees all of us and
he's shaking hands. Marshall Falk was on our set and
he was Marshall's position coach at San Diego State. H
So he goes way back with him and he sees

(26:41):
me and he just slaps my arm so hard, slaps
my hand so hard. I got I think I got
a stinger like I did not. I did not feel
my entire interview with him.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I got through it.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I had to.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I had to shift my microphone to my offhand that
I have. You know, I'm I'm a I'm a five
tool player. So uh and I did not feel my
right arm in the entire interview. The entire interview went
right down. It took me ten minutes to finally get
That's how pumped up he was. If there wasn't a job,
there wasn't a blue ten yet. Yeah no, Otherwise the

(27:18):
independent neurologist would have would have called down to take
me off the set. But but I adore Sewan. So
if I see him in the Denver Broncos win that game, great,
If the Jets win that game, great. I just wanted
to be a one score game even over time. Let's go,
let's go. I want overtime.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Who went longer on the bull?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
He did? I don't actually I don't recall, but I
know I got on it and it was unfortunate. Julian, listen,
I know you can understand this. How many bull riders
who are Jewish? Do you know of how many Jewish
bull riders?

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is this Hirchel down in Texas?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
You know what I mean? So I'm the son of
two New York Jews who were you know what I mean? Like,
I get it was a mismatch from the start. Jonathan Hawkman,
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Do you google Jewish bull riders and what comes up?
Like this guy at guy's.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Twitter and his handle is at bull riding Jew.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Hey, Hey, shout out so many Sometimes you just gotta
walk in the door.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Just just call it what it is, bull riding Jew,
which is kind of weird because I think bulls are
not kosher. So just not on a Saturday, you know
what I mean, just Friday night bull riding for not
with cheese you can have you can have stak to
bless it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, that's how you're going.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Like this the rabbit does a rabbi ride a bull
next to you and he bless it? Okay, any how
do we get on this subject?

Speaker 5 (28:50):
I like you guys, gotta do it again. Do you
find a honky tonkin London? I run it back.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
We'll be right back after this quick break. So what's
your current mindset on this year's Jets? Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I think they made all the right moves in the offseason.
We'll see if it pays off. Like well, I mean,
he's he's a Jet originally a Bill Parcell's draft choice,
so he's been there when the Jets had a page
turn that worked. And then you know, listen, obviously the

(29:25):
the Aaron Rodgers tenure was over. Rogers, as you know,
has a big problem in the way it was communicated
to him. But I don't mind them saying, listen, there's
one Erran here, and we want the voice that everyone
he follows to be a coach, not the quarterback. And
the coach is going to set his standard, and so
we're going to move in a different direction. To use

(29:46):
the football phrase makes sense. I love the fact that
they paid both Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner. It's not
like you're not going to keep them. It's not like
you don't know who you already have in those players. Yeah,
so you sign him early. You saw what happened with
Dallas when you sometimes sign people late, that gets more
expensive or it can go sideways of the line, right.
So I like the fact that they drafted again to

(30:08):
hit the offensive line tackles right. So they made the
right bets. I just you know, you never know if
it's the right and justin fields, you know you're gonna
get in the era of paying quarterbacks who have never
won a Super Bowl, or sometimes never won a playoff game,
or sometimes haven't even made the playoffs. You're paying some
of these guys fifty million dollars a year based on

(30:28):
pass performance without the playoff appearances and or wins or
rings and injuries. So you're going to somebody, right, You're
paying somebody twenty million bucks a year to give it
a whirl. And it's not like he's thirty two, he's
twenty six. You're giving him an opportunity to prove that
he's a two way threat at a level that can

(30:50):
be supported by a coaching staff and a management team
that believes in him, which I don't think he's really
ever had, and see how it goes. In one in
as of this taping, he looked pretty damn sharp.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
That was the best I ever seen justin fields look.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
So let's see what where it can go. I mean,
these are good bets, good moves to make, and I
just don't know if it'll work out.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't know. I don't know if it will work out.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
But the off season and through week one, granted it's
Week one, Yes, it's been very quiet over in New York.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
As opposed to previous years. As opposed to previous years,
which is a good thing. There's no distractions. They look
like they had an identity. They look like a competent
football team. That's tough playing against a team like Pittsburgh who.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Has the identity that they have, who has the continuity
that they have? Yes, and go out and losing the
way they did. I thought that was the best loss
I know in Week one?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Where do you hang that banner?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Where does that banner go right? You know, I asked you,
where does that banner? Best Week one loss of the
twenty twenty five season. Let's raise that ship.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, but it's new coaching staff, there's a new attitude.
The defense is gonna get better. It's week one. No,
I agree. Obviously they have a lot of great They
have a lot of good football players and drafted in
the first round high a lot.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
They sure they have a talented roster. But you're going
against a very veteran Steelers team that added Jalen Ramsey
and and it's got some got something going. You know,
they got something going. And we'll see how Rogers performs
here on out. But his first four touchdown games since
his last MVP season.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Is a great way for him to start to It
was a great way for him to start. It was
a fun game. Yeah, that was Since I've retired, that
Week one was probably the most exciting week one that
I can remember since I've been in the TV game. Dude.
That Sunday night game between Atlanta Tampa was in sneaky
good game Seattle for forty nine.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Ers Monday night er with the Vikings and the Bear
really good.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I know. It was a great week of football.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I agree, and it's just something that we were all
waiting for and it's it's great. I'm so fortunate to be,
you know, in the middle of the NFL world and
have different platforms on which to talk about it in
different ways, to meet with fans and talk with fans
about it. And you know, this is season twenty three

(33:20):
for me with NFL NETW was season twelve covering the
NFL through my show. It's it's pretty cool, man. I'm
really blessed when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well, we're blessed to have you because you you broadcast
it like you're one of the goats. You know, you
can't stick around in this business for as long as
you have and not be good. Thank you. You know,
the good stuff goes. Watch me in about a couple
more years and then you'll see you know, all away.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
No, you'll be like a fine one, bro.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
There we go. Actually, but can you explain to us
how the ESPN get reunitement came about?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Sure? Yeah, I mean so my show Roku. I thought
it was on Roque channel. And I love those folks
at Roku. They are really great. And they initially approached
me from my show three years ago because and they
were rightfully, you know, indignant that direct tv was known
as the place if you're a sports fan to to

(34:18):
go to if you want to see anything in sports,
like anything, and they were indignant about it because Roku
is the main place to go to stream television and
they had every sporting event too, but people didn't kind
of know about it. Streaming is still back, I guess

(34:38):
even three years ago something of a question mark for fans.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Do we really want to do that?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Do we really want to cut a cord? Do we
really not want to have a dish on the roof?
Do we really want to go and depend on my
internet connection for sports? And the answer is yes, yes,
and you don't want to, you don't want to anything
on your roof anymore. Let's let's go ahead and just
use your inner connection and watch sports. And so Roku
came to me and said, you know, we want you
to be sort of a drum beat of sports every

(35:05):
day talking about sports on our platform, on a Roku channel,
and bring sports fans in and you know, and if
your simulcast on the radio, just do us a favor,
and you know, mention her name a few times. I'm
like done, I see it. I understand, like I planted
a flag for NFL network. My show was the first
on the Fast channels on Peacock with Dan Patrick, and

(35:28):
you know, my show was born on direct TV after
Dan Patrick. So I understand what it takes to try
and brand yourself and brand your partner at the same time.
And it was incredible with Roku, just awesome. And if
it wasn't an opportunity for ESPN to say let's get
back together, and I'd still be on on the Roku
channel and that platform, I mean Roku channels the fifth

(35:50):
most streamed channel or entity in streaming right now, and said,
you didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's the truth that you didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
So for me to leave it, it's got to be
a damn good reason for it, or part ways with
them again. That's I don't want to ever turn it
that I left them, or even though I just turned
it that way. It just one of those things I
just could not refuse the opportunity. And so because my
show is on radio and also on TV right that

(36:20):
that I didn't a two years ago my radio rights
were up ESPN. We knocked on their door. They were interested,
but they're like, listen, just doing it for radio is
one thing we wanted when you have all of your
rights up. And so when that was happening, we reached
out to ESPN to say, you know, do you mean

(36:41):
what you said? And they meant what they said. And
I remember, you know, having a meeting with Jimmy Petaro,
who was the major DOMO at ESPN and everything ESPN
that you know, he basically said that he wanted me
back with ESPN and one of the show and I
got all, you know, misty about it. And because I

(37:02):
never thought the head of ESPN would ever say those
words to me again. After you know, getting a cardboard
box twenty two years ago, this past summer, So to
bring my show in a in a an arrangement where
they licensed the program and I produce it, and they

(37:24):
are supportive in every possible way that you would think
the platform would be supportive, from social media to promotion
to everything else, to the radio side of things as well.
And then so I'm kind of planting a flag right
now for Disney Plus where there's a daily drum beat
of sports there, because I mean, if I had to guess,

(37:45):
their plan is to put more and more live sports
on Disney Plus. And so you get the trio package,
right and so, and you know my show is I
consider my show a pop culture show more than you know,
just a sports show because we have celebrities on and
talking movies and TV shows and things of that nature.
And so for Disney Plus to have certain you know,

(38:07):
priorities they you know, where they're on air, actors, actresses
or whomever you know, for them to fit in an
ESPN show would be like, you know, them showing up
on Sports Center for five minutes, or maybe if they're
they're a sports fans, show up on college game day
to pick games or whatever. This is a sort of

(38:28):
a sit down, twenty minute conversation to promote whatever show
they want to promote, whether it's on Hulu, Disney Plus,
or the Disney World. So I guess I kind of
fit on Disney Plus. For me, it's like a dream
where you see my show and my face and the
the logo of the show over Pixar Marvel Star Wars. Dude.

(38:53):
It's one of those things where I bring my kids
in the room.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I never really do this. I'm like, how do you
like me now?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
And they're like, not so much, Dad, shut up, Like
you can stay up another hour, Like that's that's what
That's like.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
The most satisfaction you get is when your kid thinks
you're a little cool. That's the That is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
But in all honesty, the best satisfaction that I'm getting
is the crew, Like your crew that you have, Like
obviously you guys have been together now. I've been seeing
it my two times now. Yeah. My crew stuck with
me through you know, getting our walking papers from Direct

(39:32):
TV and AT and T, through a pandemic, through everything,
and the fact that I told them, you know, like,
stick with the program and we're going to get it
to where it needs to be. Never did I think
it would wind up, you know, on Disney Plus and
ESPN and ESPN Radio and all of that, that they've
stuck with the ride and the show and believed in it.

(39:57):
I don't need to tell you, like, I'm sure you're obvious.
Your MVP trophy is somewhere in this house. I'm sure
a ring is somewhere in this house. But the thing
you're most proud of is the team that you were part.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Of, right definite.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
And you're going to see these guys the rest of
your lives without it, and that's the beauty of it.
It lives forever. In that respect. It's the same thing
when you're putting a broadcast together. Where we've been together,
we're drama free, no one's an asshole. We're great to
each other and with each other and for each other.
And that's the thing that I love like every day
that we're doing this, you know, and that they're getting

(40:34):
opportunities on their own as well through this partnership that's
only as of this taping about eight days old.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
We're seeing it already. It's pretty cool, man, It is
very cool, and we're all very lucky to have you back.
Nanks Pal. You know where you started but also in
your own manner, It's still the Rich Eisen Show.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Okay, Disney's just licensing. I'm still the Rich Eisen Show.
I appreciate you saying that, and I do want to
come that. I want I kind of want to cape
for my new partners in that respect, because ESPN gets
a lot of grief for changing things that they buy

(41:15):
right unfairly. I think, like, for instance, the commercial free
aspect of Red Zone not watching it come on hell right,
and now they are Now there are commercials and I'm
I'm seeing all of these social media posts and articles
right or like, that's ESPN screwing up something good. ESPN

(41:36):
doesn't even own it. They will never own it. They
will have the right to distribute it. The NFL is
still producing it. And part of the reason why the
NFL will always produce Red Zone is because I don't
think other partners of the NFL, like say Fox and CBS,
who pay a hoop ton of money for this sort

(41:57):
of stuff, they don't want anybody else who they compete
with produce producing their game presentation in any way, shape
or form. So the NFL is producing it and will
always produce it, which is why I think Scott Hansen
may wind up being the last NFL media employee that
ever exists, because ESPN may may buy NFL Network at

(42:19):
some point. They're supposed to. They did, but they did,
but the deal's not complete until there's government approval and
teaser crossing the eer dot it and that's probably not happen.
So ESPN is getting all sorts of well, as soon
as ESPN buys the Red Zone or which they didn't,
they bought the rights to distribute it, and as soon
as they get the Red Zone, suddenly they're commercials on it.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
They don't, they don't have anything.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
They don't even own the production they don't, and they
don't own the distribution. Yet you get crap for that.
And then I don't understand how ESPN gets the rep
that they changed things all right on stuff that they
acquire when.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Pat's show, but that's the first time you haven't. Well,
then Pat's led the way, He's kind of led the way,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
But so everyone's like, oh, ESPN changes things and Pat
he has had the show is Pat's program? Like you
can't watch that show and say, oh, he's being censored.
No ever, you know, And so that they haven't said
to me a thing yet at all. And I don't
expect it, you know, because first of all, it's in

(43:30):
a contract and Pat has the same thing, and look
at what he's doing. So I think when inside the
NBA comes and I know that Barkley's out there saying,
we haven't been told anything yet, and so I don't
know what he's been been told or not. Personally, I
think they're they're they're acquiring it.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
The way it is. Yeah, like you guys, do them
do their thing like the way that?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Like how crazy would it be would it be to
buy the rights to broadcast inside the NBA and tell them, yeah,
will you do it?

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Let's let we have a couple of tip for.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
You, you know, or or you know, hey, listen, we
know that you're used to going for an extra fifteen
minutes right now, but man, we got to get it
to everyone's expecting they're going to tell Barkley you're not
going on the air for another fifteen twenty minutes because
we have to get it to Sports Center. I don't know.
I would be kind of surprised based on the way
they deal with me, based on what I see what

(44:21):
they do with pat.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, you know, I think they're gonna let I mean,
I think they've changed, they shifted in that.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well, they're they're acquiring stuff that I'm obviously acquiring, the
distribution rights to my show. I think they're smart. But
they're making some smart plays here. Man, the WWE getting
all those pls right now. You know, MLB, they're getting
some you know, rights in a certain way that they've
never had before with them, the NFL network, I mean,

(44:52):
which again I.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Don't think work for Fox. Yeah, I understand, no.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
But Fox, Fox and Disney are I can't be can't
be buffet out. I can't be fluff for them too much.
Masses will start getting mad at me. Excuse me to
start getting mad.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Uncle will be coming out of here, this guy.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Listen, Shanks and Jimmy Petaro are bundling products together. You
can you can bundle Foxes directing consumer with the ESPN's
direct to consumer because everyone knows like this will raise
all boats and so you know, Steve Bushetti boat not that,
not that I just got that one that I already sea.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Look at you, coachable, You're.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
So coachable, Jules, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Before we get into the game, I love that. You said,
you're not just a sports show, You're a pop culture show.
You've had some of the best celebrities on. Who's the
one that surprised you the most? What celebrities surprizes you
the most? That knew the most ball that you thought
they don't know ball? Wow?

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Who knew the most ball?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Whatever? Ball? It was great question.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I talked, uh fantasy football with Jody Foster for five minutes. Great?
That was cool, so cool. That was unexpected, to say
the least. Where Uh, Jody Foster extolling the virtues of
Jordy Nelson for a few minutes was something I did
not see coming. That was great. Man who loves ball?

(46:21):
To Stone Street loves ball?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
My god? And he oh he is he's.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Die hard photographic memory. But I wasn't surprised by that.
I don't know, that's a good one. Who else knows ball?
Sometimes though they could know ball, and I don't talk
with them about it because I want to know more
about their TV and movies and stuff stuff like that,
You know what I mean? Yea, some celebs come on
and they they love talking sports because they don't get

(46:50):
an opportunity when they're on their promo tall tours talking
about sports. But then on the back end of it,
you know, some celebrities are concerned about coming on because
they feel like I'm gonna quiz them on a four
to three defense and expose them for not being sports fans.
And I will never do that, like ever, But what.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Would the quiz question be of the fourth three D?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I don't know. I just used that as I have
no idea. I know football, I have no idea, but yeah,
but I just love talking movies and TV shows.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
And you know, when your analogies are awesome too, when
you analogize, I try, like I love his analogies, when
you you'll bring in like a TV movie or.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Something trying to like trying to just bring bring some
sort of And that was why, you know, I love
doing sports that you're throwing a pop culture reference in there,
sneak it in, and you know, I just love going
down a wormhole.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Of TV and movies.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
And when the show first started, you know, a lot
of pushback came from the radio side of things, where
they wanted me to talk more sports, and I just
stuck to my guns man, and I'm like, this is good.
This is the way it can work. We can do both.
It's three hours a day. My god, there's real estate.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
No, and you do a great job. Let's jump into
the next segment where we go back into time. Let's
go around where the game took place. This game took
place September twenty third, two thousand and one, and we
go over pop culture.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
It is the musket that was That was Tim Roth
number one movie Musketeer.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Let me see It was kind of a forgettable take
on the Three Musketeers.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Okay, Fallen was incredible by Alicia Keys. Around this time,
American Pie two came out correct one, The Fast and Furious,
we're all popping off. I wanted a little like lowered
Honda after I went to that, when I was like,
that was like ninth grade. Okay, there, super.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Can I can I reveal something on your program? Yeah?
Never seen any Fast and Furious.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I've never seen a Fast and Furious, not.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
One single, not missing a whole lot. I don't grudge people.
I don't begrudge people who like being fast or furious.
I've never seen one of them. But Manit Brothers is
an outstanding HBO show. Brother all timer Kurt Warner was
the MVP house calling games with them.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I love it. Yeah, yeah, Kurt's awesome. He needs them.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
He's an un underrated red ass, underrated red ass. Yeah yeah,
like he's bad football pissed him off, just like Peyton Manning.
Bad football wasn't like bad football. Can't stand when we're
on game day morning and stuff like, you know, the
chief the Chiefs have the most complete team they've ever had,
and he's just like, like, what the hell does that mean?

(49:33):
He hates making forced him make predictions sixteen weeks early.
You know, I can't stand it.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Real football guys don't like it.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, look at hot the Heisman winner Eric Crouch croud
from Okay, Okay, Yeah, I remember, oh.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
NFL uses replacement refs in Week one.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I forgot that.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Did they use it this year? Because I remember they
did in twenty twelve with us and it was awful.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
This was a replacement And that was the fail Mary year,
wasn't it was? Yeah, that was the end of that.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I got an OPI on that with those guys.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
The fail Mary ended the situation that was going down.
I was like, that was enough.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Not full time employees though.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I think some of them are as a good question, but.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Rays. You remember. I remember that Arizona Diamondbacks with freaking
Randy Johnson on there. I remember. I was there.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I was there. Oh my god, I covered it for
ESPN Radio.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
How was that as a Yankee fan? It sucked?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, I mean, but I was there. I remember that
that World Series two thousand and one, obviously after nine
to eleven, and they're, you know, in Bank One Ballpark
on Arizona, and they were saying right before the World
Series that they would divert some aircraft because of you know,
the the jitters that we were all having in October

(50:51):
of two thousand and one, and that was in the
flight path of the airport, and they didn't do it,
and planes were flying overhead and we're like really, And
then Game two they flew me back early because they
had to do the in between Games two and three
Sports Center hits, so they flew me back with our
guest analyst at the time, Buck Showalter. He would not

(51:16):
only helped build the Yankees that went on to go
be dynastic without him and Joe Torre, but he was
the one who was the initial manager of the Arizona
Diamondbacks and helped design Bank One Ballpark He was telling
me a story about how he was running the periphery
of the field one day and he's on the dirt

(51:40):
going from home plate to right field before he went
around the warning track and kept making circles and we
noticed something wrong with the foul poles. It's like, what
the hell's going on? Something's weird. And then he was
the second run around he realized what it was. They
had planted the foul poles in Bank One Ballpark with
the mesh on the outside in foul territory. You need

(52:00):
to have them inside so it hits the mess. You know,
it's a fair ball. So he called somebody up going,
we got to get the cranes back in here. They
had to lift them up, twist them, put them back
in the ground. So this was a guy who had built,
helped build the ballpark and both teams and now they're
playing each other in the World Series without him, and
it was a tough one for him. But he was

(52:22):
a really good dude and I loved working with him.
And Game three was the one where George Bush Junior,
our president, threw the first pitch and there were snipers
on the roof and friggin' Apache helicopters and the four
train going past and in right field, and it was
wild in that ballpark, nerves jangling. But when w came

(52:47):
out and threw that first pitch strikes him standing on
the mound, I'll never forget that. We're recording this on
nine to eleven. Actually, so this was while I'm telling
the story right now that I'll never forget him standing
on that mound in his bulletproof vest, basically telling everybody

(53:08):
you you know, this may be a big fat target
this country and soft targets like this, and you may
hate our culture, but I'm the president of the United States,
and I'm standing on this mound right now, and I
am I am here, and watch me throw this first pitch,
and he threw a bullet for a strike. Place went nuts.

(53:30):
I will never forget that in my entire life. I'm
getting goosebumps just thinking about it. That was a World Series. Also,
I know this is a game with names for football,
but that was the one where Derek Jeter hit his
first It was mister November. Because of the lateness of
the World Series because things were delayed due to nine
to eleven, he was the first guy to homer in

(53:51):
November because the game went into extras and went beyond midnight,
and I was in Yankee Stadium underneath the stadium in
the tunnels to get out to the field. There were
only two of them because it was in the old
Yankee Stadium, Okay, so you had to stand in that.

(54:13):
All of the rights holders and media members had to
line up in a tunnel to get out on the field.
And it was Fox first because they had the World
Series TV rights, ESPN Radio second, we had the radio
rights and everybody else in a pecking order behind me
because I was the ESPN Radio interviewer postgame. And so

(54:39):
with each passing moment as that game went into extra innings,
depending on who was going to win, we had to
be in the dugout of the winning team because the
losing team had to use that dugout as the egress
from the field back to their their their clubhouse. So
we had to guess which team was winning, which was not.

(55:00):
If you recall beyond Young Kim had blown a lead
in the ninth, so we were lined up in the
Cardinals and the Cardinal the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Tunnel.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Then I think it was Tino at the home run
to tie, or it could have been Matt Sui had
a home run where somebody had a home run to
tie it. And we went running from the Diamondbacks Tunnel
all the way through to the Yankee Tunnel to line
up there and went back and forth with each half
inning that was going. And it looked like, I know,

(55:30):
I'm dating myself something called the Benny Hill Show where
we would run, you know, like run and it looked
like you know, nurses because there were EMT officials that
had to go with each one, camera operators, boom mics,
people in suits and ties running from one thing to another.
So we're lined up in the Yankee Tunnel and we
could not see anything, and our ears that were picking

(55:52):
up the broadcast, we couldn't hear anything because we were
in this tunnel that was built in like nineteen twenty something. Yeah,
and I remember the so I was positioned in the
one spot of the lineup that there was a doormouth
of what I think like Babe Ruth's fluffer back in
nineteen twenty four or whatever would be sitting in I

(56:12):
have no idea. It was this small room and there
was this little television that had it on and Jeter
was at the plate, and all of a sudden, I watched,
you know, the camera widen out, and I thought, oh
my god, is that a home run? And then I
knew it was a home run when I heard the
stadium go nuts and shape and people screaming games over
Jeter Homeward, go, go go, and people were pushing me,

(56:35):
and we suddenly got spat out in the stadium. I'm
getting goosebumps, just as I'm a Yankee fan from New
York City. I get emotional. But this moment, like Jeter
rounding third, coming home, and I look up and I
see the entire stadium, fifty five thousand people going ape shit.
And that was that game. And then it goes back

(56:56):
to Arizona. Flew back there in this game seven. I'll
know I never forget it. I was sitting in the
stands with my future wife because she was covering it.
Susie was covering it for Fox Sports Net. Shout and Susy,
Shout out Susie. So I'm sitting with her. In the
eighth inning behind home plate and Mariano Rivera was coming
out for a two outsave to win the World Series,

(57:16):
and he mowed them down in the eighth inning, mowed
him down after Soriano gave him a lead in the
top of the eighth and he mowed them down. And
we were in the live section of the Diamondbacks. They
were crying because they knew this thing was over. And
then the ninth inning hit and it was not over.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
It was not over.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
And I will never forget that. And the ultimate ultimate
kick in the dick of that thing for me because
I covered, you know, I was straight up fine covering
all of this stuff. But as a Yankee fan, I
went into their locker room after the game. There's Steinberner
and his white Dicky and the Yankees role kind of
you know, like depressed or whatever. I found out that

(57:57):
a New York Yankee handed a bait baseball to my
at the time fiance soon to be future wife with
his phone number on it. Smart man, I'm like, smart
move which which guy I can't sing? Well, hopefully it
wasn't mister November.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
It hopefully gift basket.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
No, because ex excuse me, Jeter is a lot more
discreet than that, or at least he was at the time.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Do you think it.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I had no idea I would be telling my stories
of the nineteen of the two thousand and one World Series.
But that's from my ESPN one point zero years. I
covered the World Series from ninety seven on site all
the way through to the Angels and Giants in two
thousand and two.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Could have got one of the gift bags.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
No, it wasn't him. It wasn't him, but it was
someone on the like this, there's somebody on the The gift.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Bag had a mister November signing ball in it.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
It wasn't him.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Okay, the game there we go. Oh man, how about
these two thousand.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
You expect those stories from this?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Why we do?

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Because you never know what you pop it off. You
never know where you're going. Mayn you never know where
you're going. It is that. So what do we got here?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Man? Should we get these ore one Pats real quick?
Into it?

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Second year of the Belichick era, looking to improve on
a five and eleven season from the year prior. Big
news in the off season March first made Drew Bledsoe
one hundred million, Yeah man, first year contract. Uh win
end up going eleven and five win the AFC East.
Uh we got to talk about some of these guys
on this team, gritty defense, a lot of vets, a
lot of cast off type cats.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
You got your j R.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Redmonds of the world here, Patrick Passes, Wiggy, Troy Brown,
David Gibbons, notable rookies, some Patriots legends, Hall of Famer,
Richard Seymour, Friend of the show, Matt Light This was this.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Was a team Seymour, Tyler, ty Law, Matt one of
the early favorites of NFL Network. He was a go
to guy man. Just a delight love that. I love
that guy's man coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, what were your thought of these Pats this year
when before you oh this year?

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, I mean one listen, like, good luck to him,
you know obviously you know, uh who knew Nobody knew,
like good luck to him. Bledsoe was the one hundred
million dollar man, and Belichick was, you know, in year
two coming from obviously is uh. They bounced Pete Carroll
a couple of years before for a guy that you

(01:00:32):
know was Parcels's guy who had some run in Cleveland
but was also known for doing it things his way
and and then it wound up being the highway. You know,
so nobody knew. Nobody knew that Richard Seymour was going
to be a Hall of Famer, or Bruski was going
to be such a heart and soul or your guy
Rabes right there and you know what would be. But

(01:00:55):
McGinnis obviously was a guy that we knew was a
signific ficking threat on defense, you know. But absolutely nobody
saw Tom Brady come in. Although from what I've heard
of all the stories is that Brady had the better summer.
That's what have you heard that story? Not that he

(01:01:16):
was in training camp. He was showing some stuff that
like that he was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
They were saying that. They said he started as third
and then he got put into the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Clearly they're not going to kiss his second year guy
six round pick onehund and overall so good, he's going
to take the job. And the guy that we just
gave a nine figure contract to like that what happened,
which is why when when Belichick did stick with Brady,
that took some serious church bells man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
That that was that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I think Ernie Adams tells us before the Super Bowl,
because there was the Bill Drew bedso.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yeah, Ledsoe came in and had to wrap up the
AFC championship.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
The Steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Ernie said that, which is by the way, a very
Gealen hurts to a situation college for later.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
You know, he said they didn't think about it twice.
They knew Tom was the guy in the super Bowl,
not a question.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Oh so that was all of a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Media story about going to the Super Bowl, whether Drew was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Gonna play or whatnot, and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
But it still takes some kohonas oh absolutely to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Well, certainly when you thought you've done it once already
to say we're sticking with Tom not going back to Bledsoe,
and that was tough enough and enough of an issue
to be discussed that you've turned a page from that,
you then had to do it again. Yeah, you know
that you then had to reassert could not have been easy,

(01:02:31):
certainly when another guy was hurt. But for bled Soa
basically like, yeah, one hundred million dollars contract, lost my job.
Now I'm gonna come in, I'm gonna beat Pittsburgh in
the AFC Championship game. When pressed into service, unreal, unreal,
it was huge and really unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
We got an and we had worth noting year started
one in three one eight of the last ten.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
We know how this season ended, but slow starting, you
can still win a super Bowl like you guys did
that when your jewels we did. We start one and
three and I believe eighteen or sixteen. Let's jump onto
the jets, Jackie, get into these jets here real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
First year of the Herm Edwards era. Say it with me, Jules, you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Play win the game coming off that I'll grow bridge
year kind of People forget that one between parcels.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
For good reason. But what right doing on?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Moving on? The one thing I don't remember about the
names that were gaming, This is true.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
But there is one great game with a name that season,
the Monday Night Miracle.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
That's right, I saw that one. I just talked about
that without Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Michael, the fact that Arnold was Booth.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Saying I think Grane Corbet's gonna do something later on.
And it was thirty one seven at the time or whatever. Yeah,
I just brought that up with Al he was on
my show this past Monday coming off, because I it
was the day after the Bills and the Ravens played
that insane Sunday night or were referring to earlier in
the show here that I asked him, I'm like, what
game from your career was, like, I don't know where

(01:03:59):
Big U come back? Whole country watching that stands out
to you. It's just like the Bills and Ravens. And
he mentioned that Miracle at the Metal Lands, which, by
the way, was the off night in between games two
and three of the Mets Yankees Subway series, you know,
which leads me, but that was that was the two

(01:04:20):
thousand season. I don't think the Miracle at the Metal
Lands was this year, to be honestly, unless that was
the Al Grosser.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
That was the one bright spot that was not forgettable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
That, Yeah, but I'll never forget that because that was
the you know, Subway series, and I was covering that
World series as well, and a lot of people are like,
what are we gonna do in between games two and
three and there's no travel day. It's just like, oh,
there's a Monday night or let's go check it out.
I wasn't there, but we went to some like club
and watched it there. Unbelievable, but yeah, I mean herm

(01:04:51):
being brought in and you could see him wearing that.
I think that's an FDN y hat coming on out
there on that day. And you know, and him needing
to you know at the time, you know, to be
very honest with you, certainly coming off the year before,
the big Jets rival was the Dolphins. But this was

(01:05:12):
the beginning of the Jets Patriots rivalry as we currently
know it because of the cocktail napkin that Bill Belichick
sign is resigning as the HC of the nyj and
the Jets had already taken Curtis Martin from New England,
and you know, figurative shots had been fired there. And

(01:05:35):
you know, of course the Jets are the ones who
helped usher in the watershed moment for the other part
of the franchise rivalry. Yeah, man, I mean mo Lewis
blew up drew Bledsoe in this game, and nobody knew
how serious it was. I mean, it was really serious. Die.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Oh my god. Now I got one question? What is
it like being a Jets fan? Can I answer this
question with a what is it like being an asshole? What?
I really want to like? You haven't had a front
row seat? Come on, like you have been a seat retired.
I was only on the East Coast for twelve years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Commonules like being a Jet fan? I mean Yeah, it's tough.
Like what else, like name something that's tough in your life.
I know things have been really good for you, but
I mean it's not it's not easy. It's you're like wondering,
like what what happened to piss off the football gods
so significantly that there's a nards kicking that's an annual

(01:06:36):
thing for the football gods? And you know, and sometimes
they come in like forms like you know, Elijah Vera
Tucker having a triceps injury and a practice before week
one of a season that knocks him out for the
entire of the season. Just to be most recent, or
having all eggs put in a very exciting Aaron Rodgers
basket only to have an achilles pop vive snaps into

(01:06:57):
his time tenure. I mean, I could go on and on.
It's not great. He didn't have name it though. Well,
I mean that was the year I was born and
I'm six years old. That'll go down for it, No,
I know, but you're supposed to update things, you know,
things are supposed to improve over the span of say
half a century, But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I mean, times are looking good. It was a good loss, Jack.
Let's get into the game before you know the game.
We got a shadowed a couple of these Jets guys.
We love talking dudes over here. Curtis Martin, Hall of Famer,
Kevin my Way, Hall of Famer, Testa Verdi, Yes, huge briefcase.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Yeah, he brought a brief, huge briefcase to work all
every day. Lavernie Is Coles, James Ferry. I mean, was
a gretty year the team. You know, the year the
Jets made the AFC Championship game, went over ourselves, Yeah,
they went over. They made the AFC Championship game with Parcels.
It was my second year on Sports Center. So I

(01:07:51):
went to Denver for that AFC Championship game and sat
into the second to last row of Mile High Stadium
with my camp Low condo Wesley Talker New York Jets
jersey that I had when I was a kid that
still fit me when I was a thirty four year
old man, and I was very very proud of myself,
or actually was twenty seven at the time, so I
was very proud of myself. And I went there and

(01:08:12):
I watched two Bill Parcells guys, and Dave Meggett and
Keith Buyer's fumble. One of them was Meggot just letting
the opening kickoff of the second half with the Jets
leading at halftime, having a very quiet Mile High stadium.
Watched him just let it hit the ground and turn
it over and then the rest was just an awful
rest of the afternoon. The reason why I bring all

(01:08:34):
that up is the next year was supposed to be
it because they went to the AFC Championship, bringing everyone
back right and here was that home opener, and it
was great. It was awesome to feel like this could
be finally, Jets your parcels and we made the AFC
champion and take a step forward. You know what happened
in that week? What happened Vinnie Testaverdi blew out his achilles.

(01:08:55):
Does this sound familiar to you at all? And do
you know who was there the night on the field
before the game when Aaron Rodgers took the field as
a Jet for the first time. You know who's there,
Bennie testa VERNI, Oh my god, So you were asking
me how what it is to be a Jet fan?
Do you want to keep revisiting that question? I know
I brought it back up and you've moved on and
turned the page. But I clearly have not what else
we want to talk about? Yea though shout out to

(01:09:19):
Vinnie Testimony.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Let's get the part.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Where Timo Lewis blew up contract theory of the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Let's get to that part.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Both these teams started oh one, Peyton Manning worked the
Jets in week one. Uh, the Pats dropped it to
cinsa fory dyllon Uh. The Jets had won previous four
meetings in this series. Less game was postponed due to
the nine to eleven ATTAXA. Yes, we mentioned earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Andrews he ran out with a flag? Did he brought
his achilles five snaps into the game after carrying a
flag on a nine to eleven celebration or commemoration? You
know that happened with Aaron Rodgers. What else?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Yeah, that was. That's pretty much it for the lead up.
This is week too, so not a lot of football.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, lead up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
We'll be right back after this quick break. Should we
hit the game here? And we should? First half sloppy,
greedy scoring, not the greatest football. Kurt Warner wouldn't like it,
Ernie wouldn't like it. Bad football.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Six punts two field goals, two Patriot turnovers, and a
little bit of foreshadowing. In the second quarter, a tuck
rule extended the Jets drive. Irony, I didn't know that
tuck rule rule ties this thing up leads to a
Jets field goal. We're going to a half three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
By the way, in the same way, this is called
the mo Lewis game for you, right, it's not called
the tuck rule game in New England, isn't What are
you talking about? The tuck rule game is the way
we all referred to you mean, the snow game. Talk
to anybody who's from the Patriots, the Patriots fan base,
or anyone from New England, it's called the snow game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Like there's been a.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Lot of games with snow, but this is where you
could refer to many games as the snow game in
New England history prior to that particular night where there
was a tuck rule moment, by the way, appropriately called
I'm not one of those tuck rule truthers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
I'm not one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
It was one hundred percent the rule book. It was
so stupid that it was in the rule book, but
it was one the right thing. And you know, Charles
Woodson is one of I've got a lot of In fact,
there was two Michigan men of all time meeting in
that pocket is really ridiculous. But but you know, like
in New England's history, that's that snow game. Could be
the one where the guy on work release snowplow. That's game,

(01:11:30):
that snow game, Snow Game one two. I'm sorry, we
did that game. Telling your stories.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
We did this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
We did that game of Scott Pioli and we you know,
we are the aforementioned you know show on games with names.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
We determined what the final score.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
The name of the game is that snow the Snow Game,
Snow Bowl Game, Snow Bowl Game.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Okay, but everyone else in the in the New England
never heard it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Called tuck rule.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Dan Deardorff, Michigan man calling the game. I didn't know
it was Enburg and Diardorf. Pretty cool, pretty good, pretty
good crew calling his back.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Yeah, that's right into the second half, Patriots start out,
We're moving the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Drew starts out five for five, but.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
It would end in a Mark Edwards fumble, as would
another drive later in the game that would set up
the loan touchdown of this game. Curtis Martin caps off
a twelve play ninety three yard drive. Jets go ten
to seven. Curtis my favorite Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
As Chris Berman likes. I like it. Trade punts again
in the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
I take us to the take us to the play.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
I mean this happened in the fourth. The stage here,
baby five eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Us got out, almost got out of it without bringing
in Brady. Almost got almost got out.

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
Almost five eleven left in the fourth, still trailing ten
to three, third and ten on their own nineteen. So
drops back, rolls right, avoids pressure, takes off up the sideline,
right by the sticks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
He's almost at the line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
The game collides with mo Lewis that hit that we
were all here to talk about, the only slidd You don't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Think he saw them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Dude, you'd be living in a one bedroom apartment somewhere
right now. If if he slid right now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
You may and like you'd like venice, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Yeah, dude, you'd be in. You'd be in like a
like a you know, like a lean to somewhere. I'd
probably be in, like go to have this podcast setup.
Look at all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Do you believe in? Like the butterfly effect of this game.
Or was Tom Brady inevitable? Oh, I don't know if
he was inevitable. I believe in the butterfly effect. Listen,
I'm having my fun obviously. But Tom Brady is a
self made man, okay, and you know you are too.

(01:13:41):
And it's just opportunities knocking and him busting the door
right down and everybody else around him doing the same
for twenty years.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
I mean, that's it. Would he have come in though,
I don't know. Man, one hundred million dollar contracts tough.
I don't think they were benching Bledsoe for production in
issues you think Bill would have pulled him for I
shouldn't say that. Bill's the one who told Cleveland Bernie Kosar,
ain't it so? And that's part of the reason why.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Yeah, but he paid him, That's true. He paid him.
He was there for a year, then they paid.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Him, right, So I don't think. I don't think performance
issues would have brought Brady in at all. But again,
you look back at that year, it took serious. Listen,
the stupidest conversation in the twenty three years I have
been in NFL media is who's more valuable Brady or Belichick?

(01:14:42):
Who is and stop it, stop it, you know, because
because the bottom line, you think, well, for the first
year of Brady's career, it was Bill. I mean, Bill's
the one who had to sit there and go, we're
sticking with Brady, not once but twice twice, and then
it went over to Brady at some point. It did
when Rich I don't know, when you caught one off

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every are those the marks from the football is hitting
your knees? Okay? It correct?

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I mean honestly though, I mean, but the marriage between
the two of them, like Belichick needed somebody as great
as Tom to be as coachable as Tom, to be
an avatar for his ways of doing things as Tom.
For some Tom to be as compliant at times as Tom,
to be the one to take the beating in the

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film rooms and be able to just say, fuck it,
I'm Tom Brady, I got this, you know, like and
and Tom needed to have a coach that that put
things together in a certain way and surround Tom and
after a while, at some point I'm sure Tom felt
you you had a probably a front row seat for
this too, where he felt a little bit more independent,

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needed certain things that made him healthier and happier.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
And I don't know what you're talking about. I know, okay,
are you talking about that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
I'm surprised not to see any Guerrero Project products in
the in the men's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Room here TV twelve stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Good damn well, you should.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
You keep pliability in here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
It's a dumb conversation though, because they needed each other,
they had each other. There was never a moment where,
you know, they didn't have each other in New England.
All good things come to an end, and you can
point fingers as to why they came to an end,
but the bottom line is in this year when this happened,
at some point Bledsoe got healthier and was ready to

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go back. And Bill's the one who said one hundred
million dollar contract. Hey, Bob Kraft, I know you you're
paying that out. This is what we're going to do.
And to everyone's credit, Brady took advantage of that opportunity.
And the thing that we're talking about right now about
the chiefs and it's coming for the chiefs. It's coming
for the chiefs. Where my homes are going to be

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there and who else is who's going to be last
with them? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Can you do it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Correct, and you were part of the next.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Generation, right, which is harder to do with the next
generation because you're already the target.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
And by the way, it's tough to explain to people
of a certain younger age that Gronk was part of
the second generation as well, you know, And so the
first generation three out of four. The fact that three
out of five happened when Brady was as advancing in
his age as he was, is, you know, arguably is

(01:17:30):
big an achievement and a miracle and opportunity knocking and
taking advantage of than the first dynasty when he was
this young and went on this run to a Super
Bowl and then backed it up, you know, three and
four years later with the first back to back championships

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that we had seen since the Broncos then and the
only one we had seen since until the Chiefs did
it and the Eagles could do it again this year.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Who knows, But.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
When you put it all together, wondering right now, Mahomes
is not gonna have Kelsey forever, and you know, Andy
Reid at some point is gonna move on. I don't know,
because Brady and Belichick were the constant, and then the
rest of the roster changed. I don't know what the
Chiefs two point zero is going to be because right
now Mahomes has had a better career remarkably so. And

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you could say this prior to the age of thirty
than Brady did in terms of rings, and in terms
of stats and in terms of everything else. The question
is is to catch Brady to be Brady, to be competitive?

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Stamina?

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
What's he gonna do when he's thirty five? What's gonna
happen when you're thirty four to Will he have a drought?
Are we about to witness that drought that Tom went
through despite making it to the Super Bowl two years
in that drought, or are we going to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
See and winning the division through that drought right throughout
that drought?

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Or are we going to see a drought? And if not,
you know where does that place him in terms of
being able to position himself for that thirty five to
forty year old Mahomes to be that good? And then
of course comes the post forty year old if that
wants to If he wants to do that or.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Not, it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
People just think I got a post forty year old Brady.
It's happened as good of a career as any other
Hall of Famer in their thirties. Honestly, that's what Tom
is the goat period, end of story.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
But that's why a lot of these guys are getting paid. True,
there's only one Tom Brady. You can't be tearing an
achilles at thirty eight and getting two hundred million dollars.
And I'm not gonna say there's only one of those guys.
Like before Tom Brady, it was when you were thirty seven,
thirty eight, you're done. Yeah, And it's still pretty much

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like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Look at Breeze, look at Big Ben when they were
approaching that time, and they weren't. They weren't. They weren't
as you know, as lasting as obviously Tom. I know
Rogers is attempting it right now. We'll see what happens
this year. But he's what forty this year, he's forty one.
We're talking forty five, man, And it was all born
on this day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
We won a Super Bowl when he was I mean,
Tom was like in the MVP talks until he was
forty five for good reason. Holy real deal stuff. Yes,
we need to get that perception out of our head
or that whatever we think that you know, older guys
are there because one guy did it. Was this the
most impactful play in the history of the national How
is it not? Mo Lewis hit?

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
How is it not? And we've tried to have mo
Lewis call into our show, zoom into our show. He
has zero interest in discussing it. I heard that recently
came out interesting in talking about it, had a great career.
Was not because I just don't know if he wants
to be known for a hit or I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
I won't talk about I think it's just interested in
having a conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
No, he made some quotes for a recent or an
upcoming Belichick Brady book that came out that we're pretty
pretty much back that up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
And I don't blame him. I don't get it. I mean,
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Mad, Adam. I mean, what's what what's the answer?

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I hit him like you know, see quarterback hit quarterback.
If he's going to be this big, bled so this big,
you know what is he six or five? I mean,
this dude's not slide and he's gonna he's gonna run
the risk of me hitting him. I'm gonna unload on there.
Doesn't want also want to know about he puts somebody
in the hospital. I'm sure that that is not what
he really wants to talk about. It wasn't a dirty hit. Look,
the helmet is not connecting their shoulder to shoulder. No,

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it's clean hit. He wasn't rapping, he wasn't hitting him
laid out of bounds. All these gud damn quarterbacks now
got to watch his play because.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Of this play. They get all tippy toe, you're on
that thing, and they think they're off limits.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
The moments just in the Chargers game, just give a
little shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
A lot of people are thinking that he's he's using
he's using the advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Of you can't hit the quarterback and then to his advantage.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
But you know, all quarterbacks need to watch this play
unless you're the backup once an opportunity of a lifetime.
And again, the fact that we're making a play that
we've we just talked about that we see all the
time in the NFL, and quarterbacks are taught to avoid
in the NFL. That looks just like any other. Again,
it's not like helmet, oh that was dirty, or it

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wasn't like oh he was out of bounds or well,
it's not like a it was like a three touchdown
game where this was cheap because he was taking a
shot that just like, hey man, this game's over. What
are you doing? No like that. This was just a
run of the mill moment. The fact that we're sitting
and you're asking me that question, is this the most
important play in the NFL's history, And I'm saying, with

(01:22:29):
everything in the history of the NFL I did not start.
I've said yes, because your question about is Brady inevitable
or not? Obviously we'll never have the answer to that question,
but you have to assume not a definitely not an
enveloue in New England. Like if Brady just kept going
on his merried way, I don't think there would have
been a moment where it's just like we're gonna bench
the one hundred million dollar quarter back him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
He was a godded time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Well, he took them to the Super Bowl a few
years before, and so for me to say that is
a testament and to again to Brady's greatness and the
greatness of folks like yourself and Gronk and Belichick and
everybody else from Bruski to you know everyone else that
we mentioned here, you know, Seymour, Willie McGinnis, all vable

(01:23:13):
everyone else as a collective and as individuals to take
this moment and build on it. From the Craft family
as well, Belichick, name them all, Peoli, anybody who was
in that front office that everybody with this moment built
off of it, built their careers, jackets, rings, busts, you know,
is makes it makes it a sliding door butterfly effect moment.

(01:23:38):
That Yeah, man, I had no idea. Again, I did
the highlight until I redid Sports Center.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
You know, you know what I just thought of when
you were saying that, Yeah, I basically had like you
narrating little Simba, yeah coming over. Yeah, sure, I think
that's what this play was.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Could be that the lion king there is look at
that guy with all those rings, man, right, let me
go and there's no argument. There's no argument. And I
know Mahomes might make one later in the day, and
that would you know, if that happens, that would turn
into the Lebron Jordan argument that they hear about in
the NBA all the time. But I mean, but let's
not forget man again. Tommy went ten years without even

(01:24:19):
sniffing it again. Or he went to two.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
It's hard go to a lot of soupy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
That was what that one in Indianapolis where I was
Eli dropped that one in Manninghan's lap by the way
arch through one very similar to that in the Texas
Ohio State game that I was thinking, Oh man, that
was this is gonna be my day where Ohio State
ate it because I root against them always significantly every
single time. And then and of course the moment in

(01:24:46):
Minnesota as well. But you got enough, man, we got
a not know but it's greedy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
You want more. That's the beauty. You want to grade
the game, Let's get to let's grade this game on
this real.

Speaker 5 (01:24:55):
Quick though the Pats would lose ten to three. People
don't remember, at least I didn't, and I'm not ashamed
to admit this. Drew Bletsoe came back in this game.
He came back in this game for a couple of plays,
another Mark Edwards fumble. But that's just a testament to
Drew's toughness. Crazy crazy, he's bleeding inside, he's out there,
he's trying to win this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Crazy and to put a bow on it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
Mo Lewis recently said, it's really irrelevant to me, just
another play to me, to you all, it's a big
game changing, history changing play. I never go back and
watch that play. If people want to talk about it.
I don't hide from it. But it has no importance
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Yeah, he won't be downloading this pod. Yeah, no, he
will a future guest three man. He says that until
there's a big name on games with names.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Let's grade this game. The name of this game, it's
obviously the mo Lewis game, right or is there something else?
I don't know. That's it the mo Lewis game. Score
the game? Is this the greatest game? Let's score it?
Decimals encouraged stakes. See.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
The problem is is that that I don't know how
many stakes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Again, it's like two, it's a week two games.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
That's that's the problem. I think your rating system is
going to be it's gonna really be indicative of the significance. No,
but I mean, this is your show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
So I'm going to go with a three point eight
because I mean it's a division game.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Okay, that's integrity, So weird number you want to round
up or encourage four point no idea, okay, decimals encourage,
set it in the titles, encouraged, star power zero to
ten decimals encouraged. I'll go five nine four because that's
my fastest forty. Time for Saint Jude. I like him,

(01:26:37):
I like my dad wants to donate to say Jude.
Anytime we have you, please do that. And any time
we curse on the show. Frank also wants us we
send the Saint Jude. And that should be a multiplier
because I cursed on this show.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Oh okay, we asked our discord channel for a question
and actually bring it back around. How fast do you
think you could run a forty if you trained for
it full time?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
My wife wonders that all the time. I don't know.
I think he actually offered me this his staff to
train for this next forty.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
I'd be silly not to do it. Michigan man looking
out for a Michigan man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
We do, so maybe I'll try. We'll find out my
star power. There's a lot of stars on this team.
There's there's a few Hall of famers. Yeah, but Brady
was relatively unknown, and so is Seymour. This is game
two of his career, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Is Shoes of the Moment five point six. Okay, Rich,
I didn't even get my score out. Okay, sorry, all right,
my score for that's my bad. Seven point two. So
you guys have already rated it, and this is the
big reveal.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Yeah, it saves time, save some time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Excellent drama, the way to build it up. The gameplay
of this game, which was very slop terrible. It's like
put it three, put it in three three. I'm gonna
go with two point three. Okay, four point one, part
three point one. The name of the game, though we
all know that this is where you can go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
This is this is like you should put in significance,
like significant if you have a category of significance instead
of steaks, you know, like if you remove steaks and
put in significance.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
The name of the game is kind of But that's
when I leave here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
It's your show, you know what I mean? Like, so
I don't want to, I don't. I do like to
be a factor and leave an imprint, but yeah, I
mean espnists.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
I'm sorry as a two time I like to I'm
not changing. I'm not changing. That's I have no rights
to do it. I have no contractual going a ten
two K. If you're pressure, you could have won eleven
to eleven. It's your number.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
It's like a spinal tap, or you could have went
it's seven to five. What's your problem?

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
I mean, yeah, like the Super Bowls, we've done miracle
and ice. Come on, like record does the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Last Where is it on the list?

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
That's probably not high up at all? But okay, oh
this could be five. Yeah, I'm sure it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Gameplay and stakes kind of Is this the lowest game
of all? No, it is going to be new Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
It's our new one hundred and four game.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
So stupid right above Week sixteen, twenty eleven Patriots Bills.
Oh god, what was the biggest watershed moment in the
history of that?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
What was that? Seriously? That was a dinosaur barbecue game? Yeah,
forget that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
We got got Mike. My game is when Tom Brady
came into the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
All right, well, maybe lost the game.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
Oh it should have been a more interesting game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Ten three that leaves the mark.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Oh, thank god we beat Team Barstool versus ND alumni.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
It was the Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
I would never be able to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
It was a jet never.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Be able to fall asleep tonight week this behind week
three preseason, the Texas and the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
That was Dandola on Hard Knocks is pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Jerry's all right, this is you got put on national TV.
We do think that we better stop.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
We better stop otherwise there won't be a three.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
Do you have any opinions on our top of our list?

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
What top? This is the top part list twenty to three?
I mean, for you, no, that wasn't me. This is it,
But I mean, the Boston Knee Party is one of
my favorite nicknames.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
I've ever heard of, the Boston Knee Party. Have you
never heard that? No, that's what your cratch is called? No? Never,
never once heard that? Have you shipping me? No once?

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Rich, That's what I called it on NFL network and
we people were picking up on. I was very proud
of that. It's the Boston Knee Party.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
I like that. I like that. Let's put that in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
There, dude. Okay, twenty eight to three, but that that
that explains it obviously, super Blood, wolf Moon, okay, got it?
Malcolm Butler game okay, okay, Stanley Cup Game seven? All right, miracle?
How can a game seven? Is Stanley cuppy above miracle?

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
What is the problem? What is the problem?

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
Ray Borg came and he like we did ray Borg.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
It's the like after twenty two years we had the
Stanley Cup on the show that episode.

Speaker 6 (01:30:48):
Yeah, we gott shiny objects. Oh, ray Bork brought the
Stanley Cup. Have you seen how cool he Let's let's
not talk about the Soviet Union.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Well with all those people.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Craig was very modest about his score. He was very modest,
so like he shouldn't gonna do say like it's ten
out of ten. Of course, it's okay, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
It was tough. You know, we can only do what
the guest allows us. Get rich back for a rescoring.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Bowl game there, it is, all right? Game four Yankees
Red Sox. I'm not a fan of that one, but
I understand the choke a dope all right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
I mean, I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
There's some good stuff on there. The Four Nations face
off championship. That's recency bodies also great. That was great.
But you can't come on, man, it wasn't bigger than
Miracle on ice. What's some problem we.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Did it right after in business.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Oh yeah, bus nasty here okay, all right, yeah, there
you go. It's Rich.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
We miss anything on this game, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
The significance of it. But other than that, what do
you mean it?

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
All right? The score, let's score. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
I'll just look past it. It's okay, everyone, I'm breathing
through it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Thank you, twelve to three pm Eastern Eastern time, Rich,
Thank you man.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Anything for your buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
I just had a next surgery though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Careful, well now you need anothering. We'll be right back
after this quick break, Rich Eyesen, you get a good
app every single time.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
Learning lots, learning lots. When riches in the building, you know,
I have the party wisdom. What is it called back?

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Acknowledge? Call that back? He liked when you did that.
You did it like a pro too. I called back
to them. Oh yeah, Rich noses. He notices you're a
good You're coachable? Has that been? I'm just gonna go
shadow him one day, not going the show, just hang
around him. He shadow Let me shadow the shadower. I'm
gonna shadow the shadower, shadow you shadowing him, which is awesome.
I love the shouting out his crew, the baseball knowledge,

(01:32:58):
the overall sport knowledge. He brought in old Yankees, he
brought in the World Series with the Diamondbacks games. Yeah,
I have bashetty boats.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Who do you think the infielder was?

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Oh my god, bro so who's who's the infielders?

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
It wasn't Jeter?

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
So you got third base?

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Was a brocious?

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Was chuck nblock? The second baseman, Martina Martinez.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Seems like a chuck no block?

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
But see if it had been blocked, he wouldn't have
been able to make the handoff to her.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
He would have sailed it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Put it up in the tenth row. You guy had
the yips. Oh my gosh, do.

Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
We do catchers count as infielders?

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
Let's look up the you got the roster? Fully we
don't need we don't. Yeah, we're good. Tell you what though?
That had been? He's got He's got two children with
his wife and they're.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
Happily bar If some steamhead gives my wife a ball
with his number one, I'm going in that locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
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Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
What are we doing, mister chill? Oh, I'm finally chill,
finally chill. All right today, Joe I got when they're
blue in the post game.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
In the Chill Zone, we like to pull back the
curtain every now and again, and Kyler and I like
to sort of put you on the chill seat, if
you will, to pull back that curtain on life in
the NFL for us, for us guys that just see.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
It from the outside, US fans. So today we're gonna
do a little hybrid of that mixed with a little
advice advice advice.

Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
As an elder statesman of the game who has seen
it all. The season is kicking off, a lot of
rookies are making impacts already. Uh So we wanted to
see Jules what you wish you knew as a rookie
and some of the advice that you would give to
these young bucks trying to make it in.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
The league today. How do you feel about that? Yeah,
my advice to the young football players, young rookies that
are in the league, that are entering there the early
part of their season, get a body routine down immediately,
even if your body is feeling good, get your body

(01:35:14):
work in because nothing is more important than the health
of your body when you're playing professional sport. Your body
is your tool. Get massage, get the prehab stuff that
when your body's feeling good that you're working your ankles,
your knees. Develop a really good routine for your body.
Don't do it when your body's hurt, because when you

(01:35:36):
get hurt, when you've been doing it. If you do
the stuff before you get hurt, you get back quicker.
You know. So fall in love. I was blessed to
be drafted into the Patriots around a guy that was
super into his health, and that's Tom Brady. I mean,
there's a guy rubbing his arm every two seconds. He
was eating freaking nothing but like kale and stuff, and

(01:35:59):
everything was to make him perform the best. His body
performed the best on Sunday, So get that body routine going,
and also know it's a long season, whether good or bad.
When you're a young football player, you gotta scrap, scrap
what you just did in week one and worry about

(01:36:22):
week two or week three, worry about week four. You
have to remember the bad stuff and the good stuff
to help you get better for that week. But whatever
you did in that past week means absolutely nothing. You know,
week one is crazy. The early part of the season
is crazy. There's a lot of unpredictability, there's a lot

(01:36:42):
of new wrinkles. You still don't know what your team is.
You still don't know what the strengths of your team is.
You don't know what the weaknesses are. It's a long,
long season, specially as a rookie who's only played in
potentially fourteen games if you went to the playoff or fifteen.
That's only you know, you have like four more weeks

(01:37:02):
in the regular season the NFL, and if you're on
a playoff team, those weeks even get more ramped when
you go to the playoffs. So it's a long season.
Know your body, get your body right, always have your
body work, and always get the massage, the prehab, the
pt whatever it is even when your body's feeling good, Like,

(01:37:24):
always work those things and know that it's a long season,
because it does. There is such thing as that rookie
wall or that you hit, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
I mean, if you keep up, you don't have to
catch up body wise, If you keep up, you don't
have to ketchup.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Hey man, that sounds good, done it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:38):
Let's start, uh, I will say, I think we already
kind of touched on it here a little bit. But
like speaking personally Jewels and just generally with guys you've
seen coming go in the league, what's the biggest adjustment
for a rookie in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
I think the biggest adjustment is you're not the buck. Yeah,
you know, you've been the best football player on the
field that you've been on your whole life, every level.
You were always the guy. Once you get up there,
you look around. You see Randy Moss, you see Tom Brady,

(01:38:11):
you see well Will Fork, you see Teddy Bruski, Like
you're seeing guys that you're watching in high school, junior college,
junior high winning super bowls, playing at the highest level,
the highest the best games like you got. You gotta
understand that you're not the buck. Oh, I feel that

(01:38:33):
now you can be a buck. But but like everyone
is the best. So that's when the little things matter.
When you're a rookie, not making the same mistake twice.
Mistakes are gonna be made, you just can't make them twice,
you know, learning from every rep you have, taking reps
when you're not physically and you're taking the mental rep,

(01:38:55):
being prepared for a situation or a package, and your
opportunity comes, you may only get one. I was in
a four wide package they called maybe four of those
of practice. I knew I had to go in and
not fuck up the personnel group, not fuck up the play,
not fuck up the formation. Know my responsibility, and I

(01:39:16):
knew the ball probably wasn't coming to me. But you
had to put it on, you know what I mean,
just to show you. You got to show them you
know what you're doing right, because they're not going to
put you out there if you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
And you only get limited reps every practice, only limited reps.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
There's this isn't college where you know there's you got
a hundred guys on the team. There's a backup long snap,
there's fifty three dudes, that's a ten practice squad. What
is that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Oh my god, that was my second year. This leads me,
This leads me to my next question.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
If you could rip the time machine in twenty twenty five,
Jewels could go back and give a little advice to
rookie second year early on Jewels, what would you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Say, hold out more. I like that. I like that,
hold your ground, amen, take a couple more of those
visits other teams. Don't let them bully you. We don' bullies.
We want to get bullied. My advice would probably just
enjoy it more. And you get so caught up in

(01:40:19):
the competition, and like, I don't know if I really
liked winning more than I hated losing. And you know,
the preparation it took to compete, like you fall in
love with that, and then you go and compete and
you only do it for three hours. You prepare for

(01:40:39):
like four days before, five days, six months before, you
only get three hours of it, and then you got
to go do it again, so you have such a
short mindset. At least I did, whether good or bad,
that like I didn't really necessarily get to enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
I feel that always got to be president in and
I'm with you. Stuff is it's it's easy to say,
but tough to do.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
And then on the flip side of that coin, what
is something you're so glad that you did as a
young player in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
I'm glad I was. I'm super glad that I was
very routine oriented and I developed my pre practice routine,
my my ball catching routine. I lived and died on
the routine. And you know, I had a lot of
great guys to learn how to do that from. I
was naturally like that, but to see where I could

(01:41:34):
use that routine and what routine I needed to get
myself ready daily I had. I got to learn from
some of the best routine type guys. Kevin Falks, Teddy Brewski's,
Tom Brady's, Welker worked his balls off, had a routine,
you know, Randy had his routine in the off seat,
in the off on the off day, doing his speed

(01:41:55):
and quickness that I would go do with them every
once in a while. Like there was routines that I like,
the guys that stuck around, the guys that played a
long time, they were routine type guys. So I'm thankful
that I had a good routine and it paid off. Baby,
you can always do a little more. Wish I could
always done better. Uh man, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
No, there's a lot of a lot of rookies out
there that will love this, and a lot of rookies.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
Man, this is fun. The rookies and new rookies every year. Yeah,
every year. And we're getting older. They did the same.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
I'm getting older. They keep all staying the same age
or war all right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
Oh man, you think stuff for being a rookie now
or when you were a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
What You can't even call them a rookie anymore. They're
the art word. First year players are for our ear,
our words. And when I was a rookie, we still
had like hazy Yeah, we still got bullied, which I loved.
I loved being bullied. I love getting the friar tuck haircut.

(01:42:56):
I love spending like one tenth of my signing bonus
on a rookie dinner Morton's Capital Grille. I loved carrying dirty,
sweaty men's helmets and pads and cleats off the field multiples, man,
I love them going to have to get the food
before the flight and risk being late every single time routine.

(01:43:22):
I loved it. I loved having to scream my fight
song anytime anyone just wanted to hear it, or tell
a joke to someone. When hey, rook you got a joke.
I loved it. It was terrible with it, But you
know what I loved. I loved the day you weren't
a rookie and then you got to do it to
the rookie. Do it worse.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Nothing liked being a vet. Oh no, I love the
boy six years in. I loved it. Loved being a vet.
Old slate dog does loved being a vet. And that
was the chill zone.

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