Wide Right with Jon Bon Jovi | Super Bowl XXV: Bills vs. Giants

Jon Bon Jovi is in studio! The Rock & Roll Hall of Famer was gracious enough to have us in his home to relive one of the most infamous Super Bowls of all time: Wide Right aka Super Bowl XXV. We sit down with Jon (0:48). We get go back to January of 1991 (35:09). We look back at these teams (40:20). We get into the game (49:25). We score it (1:02:02). We wrap it up by talking about Julian & Gronk throwing out the first pitch at Fenway Park (1:09:44). 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What do you think is tougher keeping an NFL dynasty
together for twenty years or keeping a.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Rock band together. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman,
They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on a mission
to find the greatest game of all time. You know.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
On today's episode, we are covering Super Bowl twenty five
aka Wide Right Game between the Buffalo Bills and the
New York Football Giants.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
This is a redo, but you'll hear why, and it's
worth it.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
And we're doing it with the rock and Roll Hall
of Famer himself, absolute legend John Bond.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Joke. Wow, the house pretty good.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And we are talking becoming friends. I know it sounds weird.
Friends with Bill Belichick.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
A few people know that he was a closet drummer.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Bill knows how to play the drums well enough.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, he came on the road with us. So we
took him to Paris, and we took him to Italy
and we took him, you know, all around with us,
and he was just on the plane.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
What it's like being an absolute rock legend star his
whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We always like to talk when we have an athlete
on here. Locker room stories. Yeah, any good tour story.
You think I'm telling you you're out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Good mind.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
And then we wrap it up by throwing the first
pitch at Fenway. We talk about that. Yeah, we're talking
about that. Yeah, Oh, we got a story. Let's go,
let's go, going to Hampton's. Games of Name is a
production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
January twenty seventh, nineteen ninety one, Tampa Stadium, Tampa, Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
The Giants are living on a prayer as the Super
Bowl comes down to one forty seven yard field goal.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
But Buffalo is shot through the heart and Norwood is
wanted dead or alive.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
No, this is wide right.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Welcome to Games with Names Today, we are looking at
super Bowl twenty five Giants first.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
The Bills, the wide Right game.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
With John bond Jovi Like, I think I like to
call you a friend, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
And me I like to see you know, I like
to think you've been to this house before.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I've been to this house.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
When we talked a bunch about recovery, and that's when
I got a real perspective of how you treat your work.
That's when I could tell you were workaholic. I didn't
you know everyone sees, you know, rock Star, the longevity.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
But when you started talking to me, and I was.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Still playing at the time, about recovery, how do you recover?
And you were so interested on anything you could possibly
take to bring to your routine. You know, that's when
I was like that, this dude's a bad motherfuler.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, you had just found yoga. I remember you were injured.
You're on the sidelines. I remember very well at camp. Yeah,
we really spent a lot of time talking about that
and you had just found yoga, and yeah, I've gone
deep on that because you know, I think like a player,
especially with a player that has a much shorter window,
you know, to play at that level. I want to

(03:13):
play at the highest level as long as I can,
and it has to be I always use Tommy as
the example. If you ain't Tom Brady, that's it. I'm
out out.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm out without a doubt, you know.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
And that's what I sort of live by.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, and you, I mean I got I got a
little taste of it when you know, I came here
and he invited me over and we were just sat
and drink I think Hampton.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Water at your son's company, and uh, you know, it was.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
But uh, today we're looking at Super Bowl twenty five
good Giants versus the Bills. In one sentence, why did
you pick this game?

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Oh? My god? For so many reasons, this was my
entree into all of my relationships in football career paths
for my children, I e. Jesse and what became Hampton Water.
My thirty five year, almost forty year relationship with Belichick
all stems from the New York Football Giants. Yeah, and

(04:12):
a punter by the name of Sean Landetta.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I know Sean Leddetta.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
You do, don't you? I do, because I.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Remember he spoke to us once.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I think I did a Pop Warner banquet after like
my second year, and Sean was there.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean they had guy's literally at everything.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
You said, It not me.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
He's at everything, and he's a punter.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
And he's a punter, you know what I mean. But
he was the punter of the decade in the eighties,
so give him credit. But one night in New York
City I met him at the China Club. Did you
know the old China I did not. You'd heard of
I heard of the legend it was. It was well
after Studio fifty four, but it was that kind of
a rocking joint on a Monday night, rock stars, athletes,
great gooking girls, you know, OJ dancing with your wife.

(04:54):
No exactly, but on this faithful film night in New
York City, Sean Landeta was there and he knew that
I was a Giant fan and he so he came
over and he introduced himself. He says, look, I got
a Super Bowl ring. Blah blahlah. Long story, Shorty says,
would you ever like to come to practice? Now, in
nineteen eighty eight, the idea of anybody going to a

(05:17):
practice forget about, and the Giants practice basically in the
parking lot of what was Giants Stadium. Now, this is
after the release of New Jersey, so not even slippery
when wet, but the album New Jersey, so we're pretty
big at this point. So he actually asks Parcels and
Bill says yes. So this was unheard of. Mister Mara

(05:41):
was alive Wellington. George Young the GM at the time,
oh much older man. And they see this long haired
twenty nine year old kid drive up in his ferrari
and park outside the practice field, which was really just
blue tarps around a parking lot. You know, field makes
you feel and they allowed me in. And the first

(06:03):
thing that happened is Parcels yelled at me, and I want, oh,
I get it. He's like my Pop Warner coach. He's like.
I was like, oh, and then oh, no, I get it.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
He's just from Jersey, So what's happening. He's just from Jersey.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, people yell at you. That's a sign of affection. Yeah,
you know. It's like people think that Boston accent is
in the biting kind of wit, is mean spirited. It's not.
It's a term of endearment.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
It is.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I always explain that to people when when people ask
are people really mean in the Upper Northeast, I'm like,
they're not mean, They're just there's no filter and they
they they really don't care about feelings. But I tell you,
if something were to happen to you on the street,
they would be the first person to help you, which
is different than you know other coat you know, different places.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Maybe maybe I mean it's unique to us, right Boston,
New York, Philly. It's all that kind of mentality.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
It is. No, this's the greatest game of all time.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Well for me, for a number of reasons, you know,
I mean, A, the Giants win. B it's the Iraq War.
You know, I'm there on the sidelines, this whole tale
that goes on. So during the course of that season,
I earned the opportunity and the respective of coach parcels
and befriended a young Bill Belichick and Charlie Weiss and
all the guys that were there at the time, you know,

(07:23):
the slappies that is, you know they'd call them, you know,
Charlie and then down into Paoli and all of the
assistant coaches. Remember Bill was a kid, he was thirty
ish at the time.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
So I was allowed obviously to come in the sidelines
at the home games, and that was easy. And then
they'd stick you in a corner and tell you to
hold a camera, hold a camera bag. I e that picture.
Then I got allowed to come to away games, and
then I was allowed, like to hang out on the bench.
And now Phil Simms gets hurt. So this is as
the season's going on, Phil gets hurt. Hosteler's coming in.

(07:55):
I remember once I was in Dallas at the time
as much too. For an era, players had an eleven
o'clock curfew on Saturday nights they could go out. So
these guys would go and put as many kinds of
alcohol into the tallest glasses humanly possible, because by eleven
o'clock they had to be back for curfew. Now the
Rock starts telling them, don't do this. We have to

(08:17):
play the Cowboys tomorrow. And we were at a place
Emerson Walls. Remember Emerson Walls, I know he was. He
was a cowboy who was eventually a giant. He got
a bar back in Dallas. And so I'm in this
bar to telling these big men, you know, l T
and all these guys don't drink, and they're laughing at
me because I want them to win against especially against

(08:37):
the Cowboys. So this goes on and on. We get
into the playoffs. I'm in San Francisco, I'm on the bench,
I'm with the team. I'm allowed to go everywhere. The
Giants were supposed to lose that playoff game.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
They were Roger Craig fumbled the Dame ball.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
The oh, I wasn't a Letter Marshall who tackled Montana
and caused the fumble.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
No Roger, when they were running up the clock, wasn't
it Roger Craig was.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
It Roger Craig FuMB but there was a big hit.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
They were about to go for a three pet You.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Guys packed the trucks and had sent them already. That's
how the story. I was told that the the Bartolo
family had actually packed the trucks up and the Giants
that his motivation. So anyhow, the fumble, we get the ball,
we win the game. I'm there in the locker room
with the team. This is unbelievably astounding. But I had

(09:28):
to earn the respect because at that time, there was
a guy named EMC Hammer. Oh yeah right, and EMC
Hammer Yeah I love mc hammer. Right, But he went
on the sidelines like he was the quarterback, like he
was the start of the show, big sunglasses, big striped pants,
doing his dance, distracting everybody. And if Jerry Glandelle was
the head coach at the time, me, I was carrying

(09:49):
a camera bag, my hair stuffed up in a hat,
covered anything to even make you remotely think I was me.
And that's what allowed me getting more and more and
more access. Now it's Super Bowl and we're in Tampa.
Phil is hurt. It is the first Iraq War. I'm
down on the sidelines pregame. There is no such thing

(10:10):
as under armor or Nike compression, where none of this
stuff exists. Back then, the New York Football giants are
wearing Bonjovi shirts. Let's say we believe her, we gotta
believe on them with the super Bowl logo on one
shoulder and the bon Jovi logo on the other shoulder.
That's how like I'm in at this point. So I'm
down there pregame. Somebody from you know, some government agency

(10:30):
comes and says, you can't stay on the sideline. Phil
Simms comes over, says, his pass is the same as
my past. He is with us. He stays here on
the bench. Whatever government agency they said. I'm sorry, it's
the Gulf. For get the hell off the sideline. Okay, fine,
now I'm crushed, of course, But I go up to
the box. I had just left Whitney Houston. Who is

(10:51):
going to go out and sing the Star Spangled banner? Yeah,
everybody knows that one right in the white beautiful track.
SI killed it, my Jersey girl. Here's here's a picture
of me and Whitney on the sidelines. I dug that off. God,
So two kids hanging out we'll get you the pictures
because there there's me and Whitney.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Just honestly, she was She was.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Great in every way. She was amazing. And I have
to go up to a box and they put me
in this box. And the third quarter we're down, giants
are losing. Somebody comes upstairs and says, they want you
down on the field. And I'm like, they want me
down on the field. And my wife says, go, you know,

(11:35):
I felt a little bad. It's like, well you go
to stupidness. She's like, what are you crazy? Go? So
I go down quietly hung around the third quarter around
Mike Malarkey and you know all of these uh these
photographers and you know, the staff. And now it's late
in the fourth quarter and the kick right, and so
I get down to the sideline and those plastic satellite

(11:58):
dish things. Some guy from the work literally grabs me,
throws me on the ground. It says, hold this.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Does you know who you are?

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Now? I think it was the heat of the moment,
to be heat of the moment, and I'm holding the
disk for reception. As Norwood goes out, the kick goes
wide right, I, like everyone else, run out onto the
field at the Super Bowl, Grass stands on my pants
to prove it wide right, Giants win. We run back

(12:28):
into the locker room before the celebration, before the anything
very mister Mara. They all said in Our Father, before
there was hoopla and hollering, there was quiet first, and
mister Young was at the door, George Young, and he looks,
he sees me, He goes get in here. And so
I was in the locker room with the boys during

(12:49):
the Our Father before the hoopla happens. Then we're sitting
like on the bench in the locker room. Oh my gosh.
So there's there's there's Sean Landetta who introduced me, and
that's Maddie Barr, the place kicker. So if that was
the only picture I had was with those two guys.
But this is in the locker room at the Super Bowl,

(13:11):
so special game. Yeah for all those reasons.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I mean, you've you've experienced some incredible highs of
your life with your own career, with your children, your family.
Where does this stack up?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
And like experiences being accepted by the New York Football
Giants when you're a Jersey kid that grew up and
you're like, you know, you're one of the flag carriers
for Jersey.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Absolutely, Like how what does that moment feel like for you?
Is that like up there?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Almost definitely? But more importantly, like, we grew up Giant
fans in our house. We were Giants family, not a
Jets family at all. We despised Yeah, okay, we've always
hated the Jets, and so we were always a Giant family.
So meeting and befriending was one thing. But realizing now

(14:02):
that I can look back on things like that, what
is that thirty five years ago? How chance meetings can
lead to things that change your life? Had I not
gone to a nightclub on a Monday night and met
the punter from the Giants, who in turn allowed me

(14:26):
to meet these other people who in turn led me
down the path to friendships with Belichick and Parcels and
all those different guys. But then, wait a minute, Wait
a minute. If Charlie Weiss didn't take us to Notre
Dame when Jesse was a little boy, Jesse wouldn't have
gone to Notre Dame. If he didn't go to n
D you know what, would he have ever been a
walk on? Would he have ever been able to play football?

(14:47):
Would he have ever come up with Hampton Water. Would
I have ever owned the arena team? Would I have
had tried to buy the bills? Would my relationships with
the NFL be where they are today? Would I have
gotten to meet you if I wasn't at the stink
and lousy China Club in eighty eight encounter.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
God blessed the China Club. China Club, shout out, are you.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Trying to get us to go out tonight?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Let's sit reover. We'll end up in some Chinese restaurant
by accident, and you'll be like, what the fuck was
he talking about?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Now, you made these great relationships.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, but one of the relationships I'm so fascinated to
hear about is with your relationship with a young nerdy
Bill Belichick, who's thirty years old at the time.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
What was Bill like when he's not you know, looked
at like.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
They looked and right. It's like I've only ever seen
him on the other side, even with mister Kraft, who
now is a dear, dear, dear friend of mine. He says,
you don't even know the other side of Bill, Like
I only got to see Bill when he would allow
me to come to camp right, allow me to come
to the games and all the access that I had.

(15:57):
But after the small talk and this stuff, what I
saw of his professional side stop there, all right, I
was allowed to come to a meeting here and there whatever, Right,
But you know what I mean, my professional relationship. The
reason why I had access for so many years, for
so long with those people is because I knew when
to leave the room. I knew, I always knew to

(16:18):
leave the room. But going back to the fun, young
Bill Belichick with his first wife, Debbie, who I knew
very well back in you know, the Giants, and then
in Cleveland and everywhere else where he went, even to
the Jets. He came on the road with us, like
a few people know that he was a closet drummer,
and Tico gave him some lessons and we bought him

(16:38):
a kit, and he was trying to learn how to
play the drum.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Bill knows how to play the drums well enough. Yeah,
did Bill ever make it out to the China Bar.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
I don't know if Belichick the China Buck, but but
he would come on the road with us, like especially
in Europe, where he could come and hang for a
week at a time, you know, and and we were
playing this massive stadiums and I had written a fan
letter to Mick Jagger and we were playing the same
stadiums as the Stones.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
It was ninety five and I said one of the
bucket list items is I want to open for the Stones.
And the response was, well, you're playing the same venues
and we certainly ain't going to pay you. We're the
Rolling Stones, so I don't want any money. I'm asking
for one thing. I want to photograph with the Stones
in Bonjovi together and my son Jesse. In fact, Jesse
was three months old at the time. And the Stones

(17:31):
went yeah, cool, So we went. I took Bill there,
the Stones head of security. Oh my god, I gotta
remember his name. I can picture. This is a sin
was a great college football player who could have been

(17:53):
like a Hall of Famer, and Bill sam And immediately
went over to him and said, great to see you,
blah blah blah because he played with Jack Ham and
some of the great Pittsburgh Steelers and got it. I
can't remember.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Davis.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
No, No, okay, Bob Bender, Bob Bender, got it. BB.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
You said BB earlier, didn't you?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Oh yeah? But I was thinking people but why don't
we do it right?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Bob second, Bob Bender give him his stab.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yeah, let's go, Bob Bender. Oh, I could pick you.
Was so big. He worked for Mick forever, and back
in those days they would more or less. You know,
it's like the Stones hiring Hills Angels. They'd hire big
football players. They would didn't necessarily have to have a
background in security. They were intimidating, and Bob Benders stayed
with them forever.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Kent State, Well, you said Jack Ham, I was like
Boback Lambert went to Mind, to to Kent State.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
I think, so, hold on, I'm trying to find a picture.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Big guy.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's oh yeah, that's him, Kent State.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Great pol. It looks like you. Let me do some
more digging here, but that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
We'll wow. Can't read.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Did he make it to the pros? Or he blew
his knees out?

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Let me double check.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I'm not seeing anything, because I remember the conversation at
Belichick's seeing him and said he would have been a
Hall of Famer. Was he a linebacker? Yep? Linebacker played
at the time of Jack Ham.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Jack Lambert, probably because Jack Lambert went to Kent State
and Lambert was on that Pittsburgh team.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
And then I think, I think Nick Saban knew Jack
Lambert and that's the reason.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Uh and Nick Saban played with Jack Lamber in seventy.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
And then I think, but then I'm seeing stuff that
I think Saban might know Bender because I think Saban's
a big Stones guy.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
It's all intertwined because I remember when Saban was with Cleveland,
he was an assistant with Bill. That's when I first
met him there.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
That's incredible, you know, when you go to that school,
but there's a little impression on folks.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
But so Belichick could now feel at home. Yeah, and
he was with us and he was backstage the Rolling Stones.
And so then we went with him, you know, we
took him to Paris, and we took him to Italy,
and we took him, you know, all around with us
and he was just on the plane. But getting to
see him now in our environment, and that was all cool.
For those who don't believe those stories of that warm,

(20:15):
wonderful side that I know of him is true. It
is true. It's all true. Another beautiful anecdotal story is
ninety six, he was the decoordinator at the Pats Pats
are playing Green Bay in New Orleans on the Saturday
afternoon walk through. The stadium was empty. I got to
go to walk through. I might walk through and mister

(20:36):
Kraft comes over and says, tell me more about your
friend Bill. Tell me more about Bill, and I start
telling about his family life. Is this I don't know
if it resonated it or not come two thousand, but
it may have. Okay, I'll just leave it at that.
We walked back to the hotel. It wasn't as big
a hoopla in ninety six as it became by two

(20:57):
thousand and then, you know, all the years of the Pats.
We could walk back to the hotel. So we stopped
at a bar on Saturday afternoon before the fucking Super Bowl.
We had a couple of those big sugary hurricane drinks.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
There was a picture on his desk until he left
the office of US drunk on this curb in New
Orleans the day before the Green Bay Pats Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Wow, who says he's not that fun?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
He was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Who says he's not fun to me? So it really wasn't.
It wasn't Bill or Tom. It was John bon Jovi.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
The secret sauce is not.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
At all behind n No, No, the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
No.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
The only thing that I wanted just the world to
know is that Belichick worked harder than anyone, and he
knows how to play as well as anyone. Yeah, that's
probably the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I mean, he's definitely he's one of the most I
always tell explained to people that he's not usually football
coaches or old football players. He's like a type of
person that should be a military war general, yeah, right,
or some kind of leader in a like a way
bigger society type thing that became a football coach.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I understand that you're right. He should have led armies
or could have led army he could have, yeah, or navies,
as I think he loves a navy.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
He's a big navy.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I know that. I know that. Yeah, I think that
that's a very good point too.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You know, I saw that you were at the Brady event.
How fun was that?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Oh my god, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
We witnessed something that is once in a lifetime. Because
even if those who aren't on our side of the
ledger that said, well, Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw, this one
that one, and I understand some day, Patrick Mahomes, there
was only one Tommy. Yeah, and that day in a
stadium full of people with amazing stories, surrounded by his friends,

(22:56):
his family, his former players, everybody there to celebrate something
that you all did together and that we got to witness,
and he's just still. And I get where he gets
it from, you know, having met his mom and dad
so many times, and his sisters and even his kids.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's all genuine, very genuine. That's tom He's one of
the most genuine people. That's what I always tell people.
You're like, oh, because everyone asked me, like, what Brady, Like,
what are you like? I go, you could put Brady
in a room people that hate him. By the time
they leave that room, they're gonna be like, damn, he's
fucking nicer than I thought. Oh yeah, I gotta like him. Yeah,
you know, because he's a genuine looks you in his

(23:35):
eyes when.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
He speaks, spends real time with him.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
He spends real time with you, like and he's curious, curious,
he wants to know about other things.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
It's not all about.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Him, And and he works and he never puts himself
higher than the team.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
That was the most amazing you know leadership skill and
anybody could have, is that he always gave so that
the collective we would win.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Without a great life. Lesson how he handles himself in
the media. I mean there you watch there was We
all know about the friction that there was for a
long no one knew about that friction publicly, you know,
And that's that's a testament of a leader keeping you know,
like the so called wife and husband talk at home.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And that's what he did.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
And if he did that, if you're the fifty third
guy on the team, you have to do that. So
he leads by example, not just by his performance and
his preparation.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
It was a blessing for me to get to that,
I bet, you know, to be in that.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I learned so much from him just on watching him
prepare or watching him get ready for work, or watching
him how he took care of his body, or watching
him you know, before I had kids be a father,
watching him be able to compartmentalize all these different facets
of life, you know, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
You know, I've said publicly, I'm privately being because I
think he's forty six. Now it could be forty eight,
forty eight, So he's fourteen fifteen years younger than I am.
And I said, but I look up to him because
of all those things, and it's really a testament to
who and what he is and therefore what his parents were. Yeah,

(25:16):
you know, so that day was special. I'm really really
happy that I came up for it. I was, of
course meant to sing, but because of the surgery, I
just wasn't up for it. Yeah, and there was no
way I was going to be less than great. So
it's like it's killing me, but I can't.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well'd you be in? There? Was just good enough?

Speaker 4 (25:33):
It was good. It was good for me. I love
We loved it.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
We always, I mean, like like John said, he would
be at our walkthroughs day before games, but like John
also said, he never brought an attention to himself when
he was at our functions or our practices because he understood,
like that we're learning right now that hey, I got

(25:56):
to know when I'm not supposed to be there. And
that's why he had the leash that he had with
our organization. Oh yeah, we'll be right back after this
quick break. Can you tell us about your friendship with RKK.
Did is starting it started?

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I think it started that day in ninety sixty six.
He has a picture of the two of us on
the field that net Saturday, no one else is in
the stadium in his office that he hangs. And I
still have that T shirt which happened to believe it
or not, be Doug Fluties under uniform T shirt. You
guys just wear like real, just shitty cotton T shirt.

(26:37):
That fuck. They were just miserable. But anyhow, RKK and
I met in Ernest. There I opened Jillette, I think
I was the first concert there. And then because of
Bill and allowing me to come to practice from the
time till that was built, you know, I slowly but

(27:00):
surely befriended him, and then we got closer as I
bought the Arena team. So by two thousand three and
then two thousand and eight, by then I wanted to
try to, you know, save up enough Nichols to make
a play to get into the big Boy League. And
then and then after that we just got closer and

(27:21):
closer to the point where I look at him like
a big brother now or almost a father figure, because
he's he's he's with me and my family, and I'm
with him and his family a lot. He's here in
his home a lot and her home in Palm Beach
a lot. But we love that and I love knowing
his boys. And I knew missus Craft. I knew her

(27:44):
rather well, and so you know, I've been very close
to him for a long time. I really look up
to him. And from a sports ownership viewpoint, one in
one and one was what made that team. You know,
from my perspective and watching others, he didn't want to
be on the field. He knew where to draw the line.

(28:05):
He didn't want to play call, he didn't want to coach,
he didn't want to be the GM. He trusted that
BB was going to be that guy. And he could
be that whatever you want to call him, big brother
or father to Tommy. He could be, you know, the
business voice for Bill. If you think about how much
how many coaches ran off and wrote books after their
first Super Bowl and were doing shaving cream commercials and

(28:26):
car commercials and distracted from the team. Yeah, mister Kraft,
if you think about it and look back, made sure
that Bill was taken care of so that he could
only really you know, could focus on you guys winning
another Super Bowl yep, you know, and all of those
kinds of things that made one in one and one
the Patriots. It really was the Patriot.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I agree with everything you just said. They're the one
to one one. Yeah, I mean it's a party to
It takes a team to function, and you know, that's
probably one of the greatest teams of all time when
you have head, coach, owner, quarterback, and that's what you
need to win in this league. Now would you learn
from RKK as an owner when you jumped up into
the owner world.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Not all thirty two Kings, as I refer to them,
are all best friends. That a surprise, you, Yeah, competitive
When I was one of the owners of a business
that they had called on location the NFL had and
I realized that, you know, the thirty two Kings, they've
got big egos, you know, and it's not not easy.

(29:33):
So you have to Okay, you play to win, but
you're playing that well, one of one thirty second has
got to be looking out for the thirty second thirty second.
You know, you're all one, right, So that was interesting
to me. But I love the way when I would
walk through the hallways with him. He didn't care if
you were the intern. He wanted to know your name.

(29:54):
He cared about everybody that was, you know, working in
the venue. He knew all about that. And he talked
to everybody like, you're representing my family, and he meant that.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
He said that too. He would say that to you.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
You're representing my family, but he meant it. He did,
you know. I mean so, there were so many life
lessons that I learned from him, and I consider him
a very worldly asset to mankind. If you think about
what he's done now with the stand Up to Hate campaign,
and he was ahead of that well before October seventh.

(30:31):
His foundations work, you know, giving putin a ring and
not starting a world war.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
We want to make that a movie.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
You know, all his adventures and also his stamina, his
his lust for life. I think, honestly, when i'm his age,
I'm not going to go hang out with jay z
and and Meek, I mean and energy and be curious
about out. You know, Hey, Meek, tell me about your world,

(31:04):
tell me about your music, tell me about the incarceration,
Tell me about the streets of Philadelphia. You know, all
of that kind of stuff. He's very legitimately curious as
he is about what's happening with the anti Semitism and
being cutting edge on that, whether it's you know, being
the face of the NFL to make their business better
for all of them. I just admire the hell out

(31:26):
of them, and I really am thrilled to call in
my friend.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Speaking of putin, how many how many rings did you get?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I do have a few, but I feel like it
comes I'm there, the team's bitch, you're part of it. Bro. Yeah,
I love those rings more than any anybody, but I
can't wear them.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I can't even wear.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
I'm honored to have him, Believe me, I'm honored to
have them. In fact, if you walk up the stairs
that you'll see Tommy's jersey hanging on the wall in
a grounk jersey that they signed to the kids over
the years. Or Dorothy got me something that is so special.
BB gave me his hoodie after beating the Jets for
his work. I think it was this two hundred and

(32:15):
fiftieth win at the time, which we both just love
the idea. Yeah, and it was like a Christmas present
from my wife that we just go like that's one
of one. That's that's you wear it. No, it's in
a frame A just making sure that you know.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
You know you got the you know, no, we got
here in.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
One of the what the only kind of advantages I
would ever take at when when I'd come up and say,
bearsh I have to go in the equipment room and
I would just raid the room. We have more pat
swag here. I went up this year and the new
guys are in and they said, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
could take whatever you want. I said, take that one
T shirt and they were like, no, you could take
whatever you want. It's okay. I go, yeah, I know

(32:54):
I've been coming here for twenty five years. I have
more pat swag. I don't need any more pet swag.
Everything I own has passed or Notre Dame. That's it.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Now. How many and how many Patriots games have you
gone to?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And is it more than Giants games?

Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's not necessarily that I've gone to as many, but
I can tell you because I oftentimes, you know, I'll
be on the road or i'm home, or i'm some
you know, I don't want to get at in the
way too often, so I come to two to three
a year. I went to camp every year until COVID
from the time that you let open, so that that

(33:32):
was my thing, was to go to camp. And then
I go to two or three games, and I don't
want to get in the way. But I've gone to London,
you know, I've gone to you know, the kookie ones,
you know the crazy way of you know, Thanksgiving or
you know the kookie stuff. I made a point of
doing that. For some reason. I couldn't go to Germany

(33:52):
two years ago, and I was meant to go with them.
But I liked doing.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Those things too, the exotic games.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, because there there would be even more fun.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
You know. There were several Super Bowls I didn't go to,
just to not get the way. You know. I just said, do.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
You not go to the Indianapolis one in Indy?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
We lost that game, Thanks Sean.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
You went to a Thanksgiving game. We went the butt
fumball game. It was against the Jets Thursday night, Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Sanchez, Yeah, no, I remember. I don't know if I
was at that.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I maybe I got it wrong and I just played
one of the Thanksgiving days. It wasn't us against Detroit?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
We that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, no, I did that. I did that. I did that.
I played that. No.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Now, what do you think is tougher keeping an NFL
dynasty together for twenty years or keeping a rock band
together for a dynasty?

Speaker 4 (34:48):
The dynasty, of course, the dynasty? Who you know, how
do you get a guy in bands and stuff? A
lot of egos on the field too, and then ultimately,
but I find interesting is you have a different band
every year. You know, you're always gonna have different members
in the band every year. If you're lucky in a
real band, you can keep it together for at least

(35:09):
the core for the entire time, much like I guess
the Patriots did you know? But no, it's it's it's
virtually got to be impossible to keep a dynasty for
twenty some years. Now, maybe Patrick's got something going out
there if Andy stays healthy.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I think about that too.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, it could be. I mean, he's a special guy,
he is.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
And he's a really he's got that same kind of
thing about himself with Tom. He doesn't make himself bigger.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Than the team.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
No, I'm happy to hear.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
That, you know, And you could see that through how
he posts on social through how he handles media.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I'm happy to hear it, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
He I remember seeing him in the Philadelphia. Remember we
played Philly, I tore my Aco and he hadn't even
started yet. He was he was backing up Alex Smith
that year, sure, poor Alex Smith. And we were at
a party for because I didn't play. I went to
like this super Bowl party at Minnesota, and he was

(36:03):
just sitting there and he was just a cool, like
country bumpkin kid, nice, you know, and you could just
tell he had that he knew who.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
He was, but he was the backup.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
He's back I didn't. Yeah, I didn't even met him.
Then I realized, no, I didn't know who he was,
right right, right right. I was like, who's this kid?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Right, right right?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
But then we had cross friends because Cliff Kingsbury and
I got a close relationship with a lot of Texas
tech guys. He went to Tech, so and then we
just started talking. Cliff was there and it's really cool
to see the success that he's having.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
This is a segment where we get back in to
where the game took place, and on this game, it
took place January twenty seventh, nineteen ninety one, and we
go over pop culture stuff and we just kind of
looked what was going on.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Number one movie was Home Alone.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Classic classic, classic number one song the first time by Surface.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Who's that was that?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
I don't really know that one very well, do you know?

Speaker 4 (36:59):
I don't know that's know that one either.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Also around this time, the birds Ike and Tina Turner,
Wilson Picking and Hallo consducted to the Hall of Fame
mic Cool. When I was a kid, we won a
super Bowl in nineteen ninety eight Bowl Huh Pop Warner
super Pop owner, super Bowl Pop Warner super Bowl, went
and flew out to Florida, did you Yeah? And uh

(37:22):
it's when we came home. We made like this little
like picture highlight thing and my dad loved Tina Turner
simply the best And that was like the theme of.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
The right are you simply Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, It's a great song, great songs, a great song.
Bon Jovi's Miracle was on charts. You got a golden
globe for Blades of Glory and Young Guns too.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
How was that you still? I remember you were weren't
you in a couple of military movies too.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
I did a twelve movies. Yeah, huh. When I went
to this set of Young Guns, Amelio Stvs, who I
had met the year prior, wanted to use wanted Dead
or Alive, and I loved Young Guns the first one
and invited me out to meet him, and I'd said,
let me write you something unique to the film, give

(38:10):
me the script, and I thought to myself, oh my god,
there's all the lyrics to all the songs. I found
this so easy but exciting because it was a different
way to do the same thing. You know. I was like,
write a song, but write it for a movie. I went,
I like this, So I write an entire album and
win's the Globe. I'm nominated for an Oscar Sondheim, you know,

(38:32):
the great Stephen Sondheim won the Oscar. But Miracle was
on that album that was a top ten single. So
I had hit songs for the soundtrack, which led me
then to go home and again probably not like unlike
meeting Schornlandetta and the China Club. I went to this
movie said I write them a song, and I went,
I should take acting lessons. This looks fun because these
guys who were playing cowboys and learning to ride a

(38:56):
horse and shoot a gun. Next movie they're in they
were driving race cars. I went, these are cool hobbies.
They're learning while they're doing their craft. We don't do
fuck all to sing play sing play, And from twenty
to thirty that's what I did, and I was at
the top of my game. But burnout can happen when
you're just on a treadmill of that doing it, even

(39:18):
at that high level. I decided to take acting lessons
and it led me into a bunch of movies. It
gave you a great sense of humility because you were
starting over again and something in the arts, and you
were at the top of your game at your day job.
So that was very, very very helpful for us to
continue to grow in the nineties because I could go

(39:39):
back to the band and go, let me tell you
about humility. We're not that all being powerful because we
write these hit songs. You wait in the waiting room
for an hour and a half just to get an
audition to be told you suck.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I just didn't my first audition. I felt that it's terrible.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
Bro I thought you had it. I thought you had it.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
It's hard to do a sex scene with another guy
on the zoom. It's almost lifelike for Jovi in ninety one.
When you you know, when you're doing that, you're sitting there,
you're auditioning.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
They guy they want to see when you're doing it
to a guy, Yeah and a zoom no less yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Uh ninety one, what you guys are at the top?

Speaker 4 (40:18):
We were, you know at Ronippery Explodes. It's the biggest
record of the year. It's you know, wanted it or alive.
You're living on a prayer. You can have a bad name.
New Jersey comes out, It's got five top ten singles
on it. Young Guns comes out, It's got all these
movies and you know, awards and more hit singles on it.
We were invincible, Yeah, and we were really burned out.

(40:38):
We were exhausted mentally and physically exhausted. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I can understand that because it felt like I'd always
have the Super Bowl saddies after when you're at the O,
did you the highs?

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Because as soon as you were done with the Super
Bowl and the parade and your little tour of doing
the shows and this and that, you realize you got
to reinvent yourself and do it again, and it's going
to be ten times harder than next year. Well, so,
like I'd always get sad after a Super Bowl because
you hit it. Yeah, and then afterwards you're like, now
we got to go do it again. Yeah, And it's

(41:12):
so hard to even get.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
To that specific once, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, we always like to talk when we have an
athlete on here, locker room stories.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, what's some tour story? We got, any good tour story?

Speaker 4 (41:26):
If I were to ever write a biography, would be
called the best time I never had. Because you think
I'm telling you you're out of your fucking mind, But
I can. I can jokingly say, yeah, I used to
be me.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Hey, those good good stories. All right, Jackie, Let's break
down these Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Again of this game.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
These Bills thirteen and three, number one scoring offense in
the NFL, high flying coach by Marv Levy, Ted Marchibroda,
the man it gave Bill Belichick his first job NFL
the OC. That's right, wal Corey was the d C
Bruce Smith balled out this year Defensive Player of the Year,
bru Smith.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, nineteen sacks uh.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
And yeah, it's also at a top ten defense, high
flying offense and that k gun was really the story
of this team.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Was they were they were favored. Weren't they the.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
Favored by seven points? And shout out to Jim Kelly, Thurman,
Thomas andre Red.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
They had they had some Hall of fame.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
He should be andres In there isn't he's in the hall?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh yeah, yeh.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Jim Kelly of course, But it was Bruce Smith was
the talk on the street. He's the new l T.
He's the new LT to which I definitely have the
footage here. It was given to me of me saying
on some news program, but he's the new LT. What
do you Why do you need new? We've got the
real thing, right you know? Of course, as we all know,

(42:50):
it's Belichick's favorite player.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
His son he was. We still hear about.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I still see him blowing up a te guard pool
thing and I mean it's crazy love them now. You
you got into it a little when you said you
almost bought the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, did you like that team? Or did you when
you when you were looking into buying it?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
What did did you like?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Kind of live that like Buffalo life? Did you go
and see the city? How did that?

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Also was very and I'm gonna be careful what I say,
because no, I wasn't a Buffalo Bill fan, No, no, No.
It was an opportunity with a great organization that we had.
I had two other partners, and they own every other
team in Toronto, so they were very busy being the

(43:43):
face of the baseball, basketball, hockey and everything else in Toronto.
So I was actually going to be the managing partner
and had enough money to be the managing partner. So
this was this was carefully orchestrated. And what I love
about Western New York is my mom and her family
were brought up in western Pennsylvania. The similarity of the

(44:04):
working class background that I completely understood the idea that
this was a very good football team that you know,
was really closely identified with the community, and I thought
that what I was doing philanthropically would tie into that. Naturally.
I thought, as a younger guy, I really had a

(44:25):
different vision of what we could bring to the league,
and it was instant that we could bring to the
Bills even a higher level of I'm going to be
careful how I say it, opportunity because these guys owned

(44:46):
the Raptors and the maple leafs and the and the
Blue Jays, and so we immediately could have had bigger deals.
Let's just say that, you know, bigger deals. We could
have done bigger deals, naming rights deals. There was There's
no fortune five hundred companies up there. There was there
was opportunity. They needed a new stadium. We had a
way to do it. We knew how how we could
do it. When it didn't work out, and it didn't

(45:07):
work out, I have to say, and I will say,
probably for the first time ever, not because I wouldn't,
but because I hadn't had the opportunity. I think the
Pakoula family have done an incredible job. I really like
the coach, I liked the quarterback. I liked that it
got a new stadium being built finally, because that stadium
was a disrepair decade ago. I mean, it was the

(45:29):
oldest place left, right, wasn't it built.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
In that the coliseum they were up there. It was
old old orchard.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
You know, they're finally getting they're probably chasing them still
for it because they they didn't you know, they didn't
they needed it, But it really was. It was an opportunity,
and I think the Boola family obviously owning the Sabers
was a natural fit. So we didn't get the chance
to counterbid. Let's just just just leave it at that.
We didn't get the chance.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
They probably didn't want you there because you're on the
side of out of this game for the.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Job, amongst other things, among other things.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
All right, jacket, let's see what these Giants are about.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
The heck of a Giants team thirteen and three, led
by Bill Parcells, O c Ron arn Hart and the
DC our main man, Bill Belichick. Best defense in the league,
allowing just thirteen points per game, and a heck of
a ball control offense, only turned the ball over fourteen
times all year. And we talked a little bit earlier
about this coaching staff. Incredible Al grow Tom Coughlin, Charlie Weiss,

(46:29):
Romeo Crennell, Bill, It was just a lot of guys
that were going to have great careers.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
Were in that coaches room.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Yeah, yeah, And it was really a good team, you know,
Oj and yeah, OJ Anderson and Hastetler as a backup.
He was a badass, incredible you know, the Bavarro right,
where's Bovaro? And the yeah, great tight end, great tight end.
You know. So we had some receivers. We had a
great running back, We had a hell of a defense.

(46:56):
We had leadership, whether it was Phil or Thens. We
had a great coach. He was He was unique as
a talent for the New York market, which was also important.
You know, he was the right guy for the time.
He was the right guy for the time.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Tough guy.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
He was unique at the time too. He was one
of one.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Now, we'd be remiss if we didn't ask. We got
a couple LT stories. We've all heard an LT story.
How crazy was that guy to be around when he
was in his heydays prime? Probably you know, coming out
of a club right into game day.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
I've heard the stories. You know, I wasn't in the club.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
A China bar for him.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
If he was at the China club, I would have
been the one trying to get him to go home.
But yeah, you know, yeah, there was there was stories
that I had heard, even you know that so and
so claims to have been with him, and now he
was on the field like x hours later. I know. Yeah,
I've heard the stories too.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
But how was he a charming guy?

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I've never he was very kind to me. He was
always very kind of me. Yeah, yeah, wherever I saw him.
Whenever I saw him, LT was LT, and he also
knew he was Elt. He was a handsome man. He
was a great personality. He knew how cool he was
on the field. I mean he was always cool. He
was just cool. LT was cool, Carl Banks was cool,

(48:19):
Leonard Marshall was cooled. I'm looking at these guys from
a far across the stroom and I can still remember
all their names. Pepper Johnson, you know that they were great. Pep, Pep,
you know who of course went on with the Pats
and the Browns and everywhere where Pepper went. So I
had relationships with a whole bunch of these guys and
it was just great. Thank God to the punter. Shout

(48:39):
out to come on, Sean Landada.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
What's it like playing at Giant Stadium for you? When
it was old Giant Stadium? That had to be pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
That was a thrill of a lifetime the first time
we played there in eighty nine. We'd gotten big enough
to now play stadiums, and I thought, if my career
is over, because every athlete rock star things this is
the one, and then you know they're going to find
a new one or they're gonna find out that I
don't deserve to be here.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
There's always an insecurity in that back then.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Definitely, you know, you gotta work harder. But I remember
taking pictures in that old Giants team, and I loved
the old Giant Stadium. And when they were tearing it down,
an agreement was made that Bruce would close it and
we would open Met Life, and so he did, and
he wrote Wrecking Ball, and we played four nights to
open the new one. And I was in that locker

(49:29):
room before the team were in it, because we literally
opened the building and they said you could use our
dressing room as your dress room, but the band can't
be in the dressing room. In the locker room. That's
a big piece of room for one guy. You know,
I wanted to go like just hang in the head
coach's office. That was more than enough dressing room. But
it was brand new, and we opened met Life and

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you know, played I don't know six seven times or since. Wow.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, now Jack, let's get to the game lead up.
All right, this.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Was best on best number one offense, number one defense.
Buffalo beat Miami and the Raiders. The Giants beat Chicago
and then went out to s F and beat your niners, Joel,
sorry about that, and.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Talk about I used to talk about that with Bill
all the time, and like the lunchline or something in
the CAF, like fucking Roger Craignan and fumbled up all
we would ad three peet on you.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
He goes, niners are soft? You hit him?

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I could hear that, you know, just.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Hit him the timing, fucking Bill, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
And then we would be remiss if we did not
bring back up Whitney Houston's Star Spangled band and performance
right before top five all time, all time, no doubt,
right up there with Marvin Gaye, no doubt, the dope
the All Star Game now in Houston.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Oh, that was so dope.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
She was just a force. She's so beautiful and so talented.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, did you did you watch that? I watched that movie.
I shouldn't have watched it. I didn't like it.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
No, I don't want to see that. It's sad.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Do you get into the game here, real?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Qui yea. Let's get into the game.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
All right.

Speaker 7 (50:57):
This was a battle of clash of styles really control
first running gun. So to start this thing off, Uh,
we had three to three in the first were trading
field goals here and then uh the Giants get down
twelve to three or ten to three, sorry about that.
Then a safety, weird safety in the second, but right

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before the half, a huge drive to get back to
twelve to ten cut that lead. And these drives in
the first corps were just these long, long, methodical drives
of ball control. I mean, you got a drive of
fourteen play clock eating the cloac, eating the clock big,
but it was it was looking like Buffalo in the
first half, which which was bad, but.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
That that because John was in the box at that time.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
But that long drive right before half was huge.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
Bill Parcells's credits at to really like forcing him into
the locker room and turn them the tides there. Uh
so it's twelve ten at the half. Then moving into
the second, Uh they start There was.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
A halftime show for that guy was just gonna say
the same thing. New Kids on the Block, what was it?

Speaker 6 (51:59):
It was New Kids?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Who's your Dream? Halftime show?

Speaker 4 (52:02):
There was some great ones. Think about Prince all time. Yeah,
it was raining that unbelievable Prince you two down in
New Orleans. There was was one of.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Mine the California thing recently was pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really good, really good,
really really good. Yeah, I like that one. That was
one of my favorites. That was good. Bruce of course
was really good.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson really good.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
I mean Janet Jackson getting her her thing taken on
with j T.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
That was all time.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
He gets like in the wrong situation all too often.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Tough time.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Welcome to the Hampton, But New Kids I never I
didn't know that trivial.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
One of my first CDs I think was New Kids
in the Black and Asa Bass nice.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
That was slapping.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
We already had all the stuff, you know, and you
had that.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Oh my goodness, and our friend are off from coming here, mom.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
Speaking of super Bowl trivia, I think bon Jo is
the only band to play the Super Bowl post game show.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
That is true. We'd never played the actual halftime show,
and the story there was the only time that I
wanted it and I didn't get it was in Dallas,
And then when they wanted us to do New Jersey,
I said, no, it's just too obvious. I don't want
to do it. So we pulled out from even considering
it at that time. But the only one I wanted
was Dallas and I didn't get it. So I just

(53:28):
I haven't wanted it since.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I feel that getting into this game. Where does it?
This defense has to rank top five all time? Yeah
you think so about it?

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Well, I don't know. I don't know if I'm that
good at my stats. To be honest, I'd be remiss
if I bullshitted my way through that. But I do
remember we were known as a defensive squad and it
was Belichick. It was Belichick's coming out party. Yeah, you know,
all his experience led him to working under ourselves and
the and we were known for our defense.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Man coach Bill Super Bowl ninety six Old JBJ just over.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
There, Hurricanes true story. I wish I could find that picture.
It was on his desk till he left the office. Man,
I have it somewhere, but not in this house.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
What's it like being the Jersey kid? That's pretty much.
You were the mascot for the team. They loved you.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
To see that wide right kick on the sideline.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I wouldn't watch the jeans that had the grass dance
for me being on the field when I was holding
that Still have them dish for years and years. I
think I do, Yeah, I think I do. Had to
be just I have every other thing. My ticket stubbed,
my sideline pass, the jacket that I was wearing, the
whole thing was in Yeah, because we've just archived everything
and it was in the documentary. I very well have
those jeans.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, and you kind of walked us through beat for beat.
You were holding the satellite thing while this thing was
going right.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Yeah, absolutely true.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
And so are you throwing. You run the field, you
throw thing, and that's when any you guys celebrate, you
celebrate with the team.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Well, then the game wasn't over. Remember, Yeah, the game
wasn't over, so we had to you know, everybody run
back to your position. Plus I don't want to be
outed and yelled at and thrown off here and getting any.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Get a trouble, get a fifteen yard penalty, so you.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Know, it's all in. You can see this in NFL films.
So then they all run off, you know, they win
the Super Bowl. We're all elated and go back into
that locker room when mister young let me in, and
I got to be in there, you know, and to
to share in that moment then with them as well.
That was ridiculous, That was unheard of. That was just

(55:34):
beyond beyond, beyond beyond. And for a family of Giant fans,
you know, to go home and tell my father and
my uncle those stories, they were like blown away.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Wow. You know, it was the first time ever.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I think Parcels got carried off in a defensive court now,
but I think Buddy.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Got carried off to.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
That makes sense. I think.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
The Bill got carried off this game too.

Speaker 7 (56:00):
There you go, Well it was the world knew who
he was man, and the Giants go on to win
twenty to nineteen after Norwood missus that forty seven yard
and the rest is history.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yep, the rest is history.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Bill gets the Browns head coach Coughlin, goes to Boston College, then.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Gets back to the Giant.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I visited with Coughlin when he was the Giants almost
left when I was a free agent.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
They sat there. His face was always red.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
He just like, it's just intense.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
He's just intense.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Guy.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
You're in a tight ship.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Now. When the Giants played the Pats in a Super Bowl,
who stayed home? You're not going for what you're going.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
I was at but I would have been run out
of New Jersey. So I stayed home both times. Oh
and we were a house divided, and and and so
much so that and this is this is all on
the shrinks couch. Our youngest child, Romeo, who's now twenty
years old and at the University of Miami. He doesn't
like football. Ask him why, he says, because Daddy would

(57:02):
scream at the TV Sunday to the point where he
was traumatized. And that Super Bowl he listens. They poor baby,
he's still traumatized. He's like football, Fuck football. I don't
want to Oh kid, Yeah, I ruined that one. But
the other three are fully indoctrinated. And I was home
rooting for the Pats. So I just said, if I

(57:24):
ever want to, you know, live in New Jersey again,
I can't go to the games. So I couldn't go
to those. I did not go to those. Wow, we
were home rooting for the Pats, and.

Speaker 7 (57:34):
We got to mention Buffalo has still not won a
Super Bowl. They would go on to lose three straight.
This was their closest one. All the others were ten
plus point deficits.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
And that's that's crushing.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
That is that is hard on the whole city. You know,
you've seen that documentary and all that stuff, and yeah,
that's that's tough, Yeah, brutal. You never know if you're
going to get back again.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
And then Bill Parcells retired briefly due to health issues
and would take over the New England job a few years.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Yeah, and that's how I went up there and looked
around the first time. You know. So wherever they went,
I went. So people would ask me, like, what what
brought you there? And when I explained to you giant fans,
they said the page you know, what what what?

Speaker 3 (58:14):
What?

Speaker 4 (58:15):
What? And I said, wait a minute, My blue is
so deep that wherever they went, I went. And even
the most dieheard giant fan goes, oh, I get that.
I said, you know, wherever Belichick went, wherever Parcels went,
I could go, you know, and I could be you know,
I could see what that organization was like and how

(58:35):
they operated within it. I wasn't going to become, you know,
a Cleveland Brown fan, but I wasn't going to root
against them because my guy was there. You know. I
went to Dallas. This is a cute story. I went
to Dallas with our group that was about to buy
the Philadelphia Soul when the hype around the Arena League
was enough that I went down and I wanted to

(58:56):
buy a franchise in Philly. So I get to Dallas
to meet, you know, the devil, Jerry. I'm gonna walk
into Jerry Jones office, right And I go there and
Parcels is the head coach, and I get off the
plane and we get in a white van and we
go to the offices of the Dallas Cowboys and we're

(59:17):
waiting and we're there with Jerry Junior and Steven and
Shy Anderson, who is the son in lad married to
Charlotte at the time. And we're sitting there and the
Bardies are there, and in walks Jerry, and he's a
great salesman, and he's telling us about, you know, these
are my Super Bowls and we're going to have Arena
Bowl and the Arena Bull is gonna be on NBC.
And I think it's a good idea for you to

(59:38):
do this, and and he's giving me all the hype about,
you know, and maybe you come here and you'll like
the Dallas Cowboys. And I let me tell you something,
We're from New Jersey. We don't like the Dallas Cowboys.
We don't like anything to do with Dallas Cowboys. And
now we're busting some balls in walks. My buddy Parcels
and I go, what are you doing here? He goes,
I'm getting paid, what are you doing here? So now

(01:00:02):
we're enjoying busting each other. But it's a bit. Jerry
does the coolest thing ever. He takes our white van
that's going to take us back to the airport, and
he sends it away and uprolls the Dallas Cowboy bus
and he goes, here's your ride back to the airport.
I go over my fucking dead body now out of
a leather satchel because I thought this. I open up

(01:00:24):
this leather satchel and in it is a game day
jersey of Michael Strahand that I pull out like garlic
to a vampire, and I go back off. Jones back
off the first time I meet him, and I pull
it up and back off, back off, and I'm not
getting on that bus. True story. Jerry Jones great man,

(01:00:49):
a great man, And so parcels where I would go,
and I would you know, I ran into him there.
I went to Cleveland when he was there. Then Parcells
goes to New England and he takes BB up with him.
Now I'm introduced to New England. I go, I like
this one. They go to the Jets. I'm like, I
don't like this one. But I was the one that

(01:01:10):
got Parcels to allow Oliver Stone because the league wouldn't
work with him on any given Sunday. And I says,
I can help you meet my friend if you'll give
me the chance to audition for your movie. He fucked me.
He didn't give me the fucking roll. Which role it

(01:01:31):
was the doctor playing? I guess Matthew Modine. I think
I remember him. He's kind of I read with James Woods.
I did a great job in Fuck Oliver.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
They can put you there. That guy's kind of an
asshole ringing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Then he over fucked the players a little bit because
he put LT out too early.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Yeah, I wanted to be in that movie. And I'm
the one that got him to Jets camp when the
league wouldn't allow him anywhere. And I'm the one that
got him to fuck him. But anyhow, when whenever Parcels
went anywhere, I two and then Belichick, and then Belichick
was up New England and that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's name
the game. It's one, there's only one name. We usually
go with the guests and we talk.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
About what is the greatest game of all time?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Well, no, no, the name of the game is wide right.
We name the game, then we score the game. Is
this the greatest game of all time?

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Let's score it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
But I do want to hear if you have an
opinion of what the greatest game of all time is?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Well, I want to go back to Atlanta. Yeah, that's
twenty eight three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Czy game.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
I did not lose faith. I knew at twenty eight
three there's something going on. I just felt it at halftime.
I remember texting back with Rkka at that time. This
ain't over. I don't know why, but there was a
calm about the Pats. It was a calm. I just
wasn't buying it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
We went in that game with three keys. Can't turn
the ball over, have to score in the area, and
you got to do well and third down. We didn't
do any of those in the first half, but we
were driving the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
We had to turnover when we got across a fifty
tell him, had to pick six and like the fringe,
which they were doing some stuff, but we were driving
the football. So you had a bunch of mentally tough
men that were able to, you know, stay focused. Stay focused.
That's that's a hard thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Catch Jules Catches. Come on, baby, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Don't think I could do it again. It's as a
luck catch he.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
Did when matter yoga.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Damn right, because of the yoga.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Let's the yoga there? It is all right? How am
I going to I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Stay stake zero to ten decimal is okay? The stakes
of this game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
So we've already done this game with Tom Papa, so
we're redoing it because it's worthy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
The previous score is eight point three to one, and
the previous rank was eighteenth position of our greatest games
of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
I'm not going to be good at this. The steaks.
I mean, this was Buffalo's first time at the Super Bowl,
so the stakes weren't high for them. It was our second.
But what what was the stakes? I mean it was
it was the first Gulf War, it was, but it
was bb was a kid, it was a they weren't
going to lose their job. It's still the super stakes
were hogh. You know, it's just you wanted to It

(01:04:15):
was New York versus New York.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I mean, is you're ten decimals Okay, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Gonna say it's a seven wore Okay, it's a that's
an integrity type score.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Jeels head nine Jack had nine point one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Hitting nine figure on stakes because I mean it's a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Super Okay, you're right, it's winner go home, but it's
But what I'm trying to say is you're gonna lose
your job or it's you know, something like that, because
these were young men.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Still you may not lose your job, but if you
win the game, the opportunities that you get because you're
always go down as a champion.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
It wasn't life for death like Lard Hamilton right that wave.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
We let Lard Hamilton talk about the millennium millennial wave.
That's life or death.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Start power zero to ten. The stars in the building, uh,
Winnie Houston, that you are there, the players. I would
rate that high.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
I would rate that high. And it was beautiful floor.
Well it wasn't Miami, but it was Tampa. It was
the I think there was a great sense of patriotism,
a great sense of pride, there were enough stars there,
that's for sure, and guys on the field. You know,
if I'll give that eight point five, eight point five,

(01:05:30):
maybe even nine, I might take that back. Give me
a nine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Give the nine was an eight point four jacket of five?

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Jack, What is wrong with me?

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
I'm either I had a what is wrong with me?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
It wasn't It wasn't Miami, But I'm gonna because of
the Gulf War and that was hating on New York,
I think Tampa wasn't Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
The gameplay of the game zero to ten decimal is okay,
the entirety, the entire gameplay as a viewer, as someone
who played it, as any thing. What is your score
to the gameplay of this game?

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Yeah, because we had the control of the ball. I'm
gonna give a high mark here too. I'd say nine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Nine had the ball for forty minutes. I mean, we're
still talking about one play from this game.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Thirty five years ending on a miskick. My great game play.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
And the name and giving a number to the name one, right, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Gotta again ten? That's ten.

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
When you say it, everybody knows.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Now where does it go?

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
Are re scored for hold on audio listeners. Jewels had
an eight point three. For gameplay, Jack had a five
point five out of seven point six, Tom had a seven,
and then for name jack Jewels had an eight point nine.
Jack had a nine point five. I had a nine
point one, and Tom Poppa had a nine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
What is the new score?

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
It's an eight point eight and that moves it up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
It was at eighteen.

Speaker 8 (01:06:50):
It moves it up two spots to beat the bush
push the bush push thousand and five.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Do anything that said that said you see good.

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
And just behind the double pass the Ravens Patriots twenty
fourteen Division.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Around game double come back. Yeah, great game.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
That's a good spot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
That's a really good Okay, man, John, this was a blast.
Did we miss anything?

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
This was funny for having no Thank you man, It's
been an absolute pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
You always thanks you. You know you your thanks to you, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
It made me feel like we're friends.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
We are Fred even though you did you know what?
Then I walk up to this prick at the at
the field and I said, choose, I tried to call
you about doing this up at chilette. I think you
changed your number. You went yeah, and he walked away
and he didn't give me his phone. Man, I went, okay,
you been done.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
He was in a mood.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
He was number I have here. He had maybe a
little bit of something to sip somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
That I maybe probably sipping on some grandpa's old cough
medicine and the little Devil's let us.

Speaker 6 (01:07:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
It's okay, and you were a heck went pretty good?
He did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Man, I probably didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
This is not your current phone number. It just changed,
no notice, A no, no, it did no he's it
just changed and he just handed my phone back and
he didn't give me the again. Nice friend.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
Oh Johnny big time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Yeah, I have Tommy's phone number, but I don't have Julians.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
No, no, no old Jewels, big timmer.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
See, I got Belichick number.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I don't have to wait.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Let me change house number, but I don't have Julians.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Let me just change the spelling of this name.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Did I? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
No, this is awesome. Now you don't you have that foundation?

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
This ol foundation, the sole foundation where you cook.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Yes, Dorothea created the most amazing restaurant some Oh my god,
I don't even know how many years ago closer to
twelve or fourteen now, and the model is that there
are no prices on the menu. If you can and
you want to affect change directly, you leave a suggested
donation that pays for your meal in the meal of
someone else in need, and you will never consider. So

(01:09:12):
take it out of your mind's eye that this is
like institutionalized food on a plastic trades, farmed to table,
gorgeous menus, three course meal and if you can't afford
to pay, no one will ever know that you can't.
You volunteer. Now, if any of us were in that
restaurant on any given day and you didn't volunteer, you
sort of feel like you're missing out of the party.
Because what it makes the wheel go round is that

(01:09:34):
people participate in the model, and therefore it's communal. And
so we created this gorgeous environment where people come. The
people who are in need are being taken care of,
but they feel empowered. Why because they volunteered for their meal.
If a kid comes in and let's just take a
teenager I don't know who comes in and he says
I want to volunteer, We'll tell you come back and

(01:09:56):
bring your whole family, and we feed the whole family. Now,
the sense of pride that that little young teenager has
because he could feed mom and dad and the siblings
in this gorgeous farm to table setting, it's been amazing.
We have four of them, two that are you know,
in places in New Jersey and two that are in
college campuses because once again, you know, if you think

(01:10:18):
about all those kids at college that are even eating ramen,
but it's not because it's sexy and cool, it's because
they don't have any money left, you know. And and
so we started one at Rutgers and we have another
one at Jersey City University. So we have four of
these restaurants that we currently are making a difference in
New Jersey, but always looking for, you know, to shorten

(01:10:39):
the line, and unfortunately that's never going to happen because
people are in need these days, and it's it's not easy,
but it's it's we don't need a scientist to find
a cure. So the JBJ Soul Kitchen, if you're interested
in volunteering or coming to check one of them out
or donating, the Jbjsoul Kitchen dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Wow, the JBJ Soul Kitchen incredible. You're awesome, dude. I
appreciate you letting us do this. It's you know, it's
an absolute pleasure. You're such a kind spirits.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
You have a really good soul and you work your
balls off and that's why you're John bon Jovie.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Thank you, thanks for letting us come happy you're here, man, man,
that was that was a great episode. He's so nice.

Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
I can't believe we pulled it off. We had it unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
All Timer guests.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, and the hospitality, hospitality, the Rose, the Rose. Well,
thanks again to John. What a great, great, great, great
time we had on a beautiful labor day.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
We just became Hampton's guys.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I think Hampton and I'm a cape Cod guys. I'm
a cape Cod guy. I'm going to chat him going
to Chatham bah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
And wait.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
We threw the first pitch at Fenway, which was it
was weak.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Mine was weak.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
You went a little high.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
I went high.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
But you know what your batting practice.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Was good batting practice was all right. I dented the board,
put a couple of dents on the monster. I can't
get the trajectory.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
And you know, we we had this pitch machine that
just didn't right, and need I need an old, fat
like guy that knows how.

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
To throw BP, like a fifty five dollar right down
the pipe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
I need Butterfield. I need fucking Brian or what is
my guy, Butterfield.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
I think Brian Hafield.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah, yeah, fucking I need butter A.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Couple from them from the jas though, like whoa.

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
They liked the launch angle, they liked the hand speed
on jangle.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I didn't have it. I was hitting too many line drives.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
I mean you get on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Base though, then all right, gronky good, Yeah, he threw it,
threw a strike, gronk through a cd A looked like
Randy Johnson on the fucking mountain. I felt like I
was next to Randy Johnson. Unit, yeah, big piece.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
I mean unit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Thanks for the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
That was awesome. That was thank you Red Sox. That
was so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Got to one of the coolest parts was playing catch
right before we went out to do it on the
field in a in a nice.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Twilight stadium, golden hour. It was the golden hour, beautiful
and the grass. I felt like that as a little
kid that played baseball. I mean that was like so fun.
That was the best part.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
So fun.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
People in the stands had a jersey on fucking whipping
the ball around the jet. Did have the white beater
on I should have wore I had some many of
the other the rebox look good Rebox. The real question
is how many fin white friends to put down one
put away? Frank only did one respectable hit hit Sunday
Guy Sunday the Sunday chart or cart Oh yeah yeah

(01:13:49):
yeah that.

Speaker 7 (01:13:50):
Yeah, in the out of the out of the little
plastic helmet. Out of the plastic makes it ten times better.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
If I had a question in a comment box, or
maybe can or maybe a hot fudge?

Speaker 6 (01:14:01):
No, what fudge?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
No hot fudge?

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
What that's a colling guard of all Sundays. Just ice cream?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I get the nuts and we got the Jimmy's.
I got the nuts.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I put a little gummy bears on there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
That's gummy bears.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Lily did it once with like mintschip ice cream, and
I'm like, this is disgusting Lily for that, And then
I tried it. It was actually pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
It's like mustard and watermelon.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
Oh my goodness, gracious, but that was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
That was a fun experience. That was incredible and that's
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