Blue Beetle and Cobra Kai's Xolo Maridueña Recs The Pod

Xolo stops by the pod to talk what happened with Blue Beetle, Cobra Kai and potentially being cast as Ace in Netflix' Live Action One Piece!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Sharlow Money the one you hear, and I'm very
pleased to be this next guest on Get Wrecked with
straw High Goofy.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wake up? Did you time to go to work? All right?
Can we talk about we get it? I get it?
Wake up? I get it. I get it.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
That goal with everyone's saying, I'm up, nest, it's not
my father. The vocals of goals that making that hit
us so well that my nig is a movie the
way that I roll, they say hit him with people. Baby,
you know I'm making everybody upset because we the best.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
We get and I know we gonna get bread.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Gunning get bread, Unna get bread, Cunning get bread, think gunning,
get bread bread?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
All right, what's going on? Guys? It's your boy a
straw had goofy. You're a movie guy, and we got
none other than Sholo money Eny in the building. Man,
it's a long time coming, bro. How you doing much
for having me on?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm feeling good. The energy in here is great. I'm
happy to be here, happy to be in Los Angeles,
and to be in a studio other than my own
podcast for for a second is kind of nice too.
You guys, have some inspiration every time I head into
a new space.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
The color.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
We need to get a grow gea.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Bro honestly, like get some like uh because I just
put you on Game to side and I feel like
after that, I need to see some more layouts in your.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah we have, we have some cool ones, but they're
all so random. There's Jacob and I's sense of style
and like decoration is so different that he'll bring like
a vase that he found somewhere random and I'm like, okay,
it doesn't really go with the mid century modern luck,
but okay.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Wait is that the real look of this place?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I'm like Californian really in nature.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
But all right, see, I'm very bad at interior design.
Like anybody that I date, anyone who I dated, I
would say my girlfriend says like oh so, like what
type of house would you want? Or like what would
you want? Okay, Okay, I tell the straight up, don't
ask me. Don't ask me that, like you're like that
chair Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
There's uh, well what about like I just reminds me
of those maybe one of those folks like the HDTV
shows where they're like, I'd like a house you just
got to say next to her, I want a house
in the forest but on the beach, okay, and it
needs you know, six and a half bathrooms and a

(02:30):
bowling alley.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
What is this, cris.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
It also needs to be two hundred thousand dollars and
you're like what And somehow they always find it.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's listen, the only time I've seen something that sounds
like a weird cross between Cribs and pit my ride. Yeah,
like this feels like a pimp my Cribs and exhibit
needs to come out at some point. Yeah, And I
always wondered that, Like I don't watch HDTV. I've always
wanted to be like.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Really, you seem like totally the target I do, right,
Like you know what you said.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Growing up in Compton, Like you know, the TV was
just on everyone's household thing. I never like, bro, I
never thought I would ever get anywhere close to what
was happening on that channel. So I just steer clear
from that channel. And that's why we know nothing about
interior design. It did not at all, like, come on,
it's it's it's racism, is what it is.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, they're you know, no, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
But it's like for me, like I would just straight
up say, like I'm more than happy just being the
guy who just like lets you do everything. And then
you come to me and say, hey, what do you
think about this? And I'll just go, looks good, babe. Okay,
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you if I like,
if I don't like it, and that's like as far
as I'll go. The one thing I guess I will
say that I want in a house is an island

(03:43):
in the kitchen. Okay. I don't know why, but an
island in the kitchen just feels like fancy living, right.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
It definitely is I feel like. And I have distinct
memories of like Modern Family and Hancock and all those
nice houses, and they always an island.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Every kid, every great kitchen starts with an iron.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Stuff on the bottom. You're like, why is the microwave
under the island? Bro?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
You ever you ever watch a Smart House? No? You
never watched Smart House? Okay, So I don't know how
tapped into like the Disney Channel original movie scene, but
it was a Disney Channel original movie and the whole
premise of the movie was that this kid won a
smart house, which was like a house that had like
AI to do it, and it had a AI named

(04:26):
Pat that was a I think it was France Dress,
not France who's a woman and married with children. It
was the main I can't remember the actress's name for
the life of me, but she was like the voice
of it, and basically like, they have this tricked out house.
They will wake up to projections on the wall before
projections in your house was like even like the original
Black Mirror. Literally it was like Black Mirror legit. It
was like a lighthearted Black Mirror because eventually she says, oh,

(04:49):
because it was like a single father led family, and
so she basically said, this house needs a mother. I
will be their mother, and she locks them down, creates
a hologram of herself. It traps them in the house.
So very much Black Mirror, right, And I think that
it was actually a movie. There was actually a movie
Holy Shit Afraid, but AI was like emphasized in the

(05:10):
movie Afraid. It had a John Show in it, and
it was about this guy who created this AI thing
to make their house better. In the house takes over
and I said, this is basically smart house, but not Disney, right.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
And then there's Monster House and then there, you know,
which is another you know, house that seems to be
possessed by something.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And honestly, I didn't like that movie when I first
saw it, but like because I don't know what it was, like,
I guess like the idea of a house that could
eat you, just like inherently, like like I'm living in
a house. What if my house comes to light?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
What if you're yeah, you're just looking at the lights
the ceiling fan like this is definitely gonna.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
This is gonna, it's gonna come down like the carpet,
It's gonna come alive and like swallow me up. But
that movie, that movie is a freaking banger. Like I love.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Kat Yes future she is Leila, You're oh my god, whoa.
I didn't know this, but that makes so much sense.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Now she's yeah voiceover queen, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I love this. Okay, this is great, but she's getting paid.
She like everything she does. They stand to test the time,
they stand at testa time. I love this.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Her is going.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm telling you this podcast, pushing it back up, like
what's her name? Kate Bush and Stranger Things. I'm telling
you it's coming. She's coming. She's never left. But she's
coming back. She Futurama is back too, so yeah, she's
getting paid. But I bring I break smart house up
because like I specifically remember that. Like they go into
the kitchen and they say, oh wow, like we didn't

(06:38):
make breakfast, and the house says, oh, I got that covered,
and she says, we want a smoothie, and then like
the freaking island opens up from the middle and there's
a smoothie ready to go and I'm like, island, I
need that. I feel like that's where it came from.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I feel like now they just have smart fridge that
this is so dumb.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean, it's the first step to a smart house.
I guess it's like you can see it sign.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Out, like if you ever wanted an iPad on your refrigerator.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Honestly, just open the fridge, bro, Like, what what do
you need that for?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Right?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
What? I guess what does a smart fridge do other
than like being transparent?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I don't know. I just always see those families fake
like these are our grocery list, this is what we
need to put on avocados. You're like, all right, well
nobody could have nobody could have.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Just wrote that down.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Did you send me a text, like we're getting.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Further further away from the plot with that one, just like,
oh yea, I don't want to write, I'll just tell
the fridge. I guess this is how this is how
the sky net rises up on us. Yeah, like I
really didn't, you know. I feel like we could get
it to this like later in the pod, but like
with this whole like deal going with AI said, did
you see Tilly Norwood in the news, the new actor?
The new actor I put air quotes on this show. Bro,

(07:50):
I don't know what. I'm not an actor, but I.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Haven't seen I have only seen the photo, so I'm
not really as well educated as I should be about this.
But it just seemed in poor taste and kind of
not reading the room.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think it's I think it's like maybe a little
bit more nefarious than that it seems, because, for one,
there was a whole strike that happened two years ago
about this, like fighting for this, and.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
That they didn't really you know, dot their te's and
cross their ey and this shows it, right, what was
happening with Ai, And this shows right, we've we've been
dried out too much. Let's just let's just sign up.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And I think and like, I feel like the reason
why I say it's a little bit more nefarious than
this is because not even I think, Like three days
after this, a producer who's worked with real actors and
directors said, oh, here's a trailer for this movie that
was directed by an AI director, which I'm like, how
does first how dare right? Like first out there like

(08:54):
you're looking at you're looking at the backlash of this
actor thing, And he said, perfect time to put.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
This out birdhandrub, Wow, this is it's getting a lot
of traction.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I think. I think we're gonna strike while the iron's hot.
That's how they do it on the algorithms.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Right, I mean, yeah, I'm sure it's I'm sure it's
very easy to make an AI directed movie, but I
don't know substantively what you're getting there.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I saw this thing. I read this thing with James
Cameron like, which I'm really excited about, Like Fire and
Ash Avatar. Fire and Ash and Avatar is probably, in
a modern sense, one of the best examples of innovation
in film.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I mean just James Cameron as a filmmaker in general
always been that way.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Terminator aliens like you know, like the man is he
does it, and like I'm like a big Avatar fan,
Like I love the nave, I love that world that
he's created. But I love that he's been taking his time,
like perfecting the craft like motion capture and CG and
VFX and things of that sort. And I remember he
said this thing where he said on himself, he bet
on himself, right, and like only the best directors do that.

(10:09):
We see it with Brian Coogler, we see it with
Martin Scorsese, Paul Thomas Sanderson took twenty years to do
one battle after another, and with James Cameron. I love
that he was saying that I'm going to when it
comes to this VFX process, it's more than just putting
things into a program and just letting it go. I
want to know their point of view on this. Right,
it could be really easy and it could look good

(10:33):
if we just had a machine do it when it
comes to AI, but without that human perspective and that
human touch, what does this all mean?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Right? Every shot like right, every shot in the Avatar
franchise that I see, I'm just kind of like, how
the hell did they accomplish this? But you could tell
there's a lot of intention behind it. I don't feel
like you can get that intention.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, I mean that's how you know, and Ai is
not going to make the Miyazaki movie or anything like
this where you're saying, or Pixar movie right where there's
that attention to detail with every frame because you have
to have hundreds of people you know, doing effects at
the same time, Like it's everything has.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
To be pitch perfect.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
And yeah, I'm I think it's inevitable clearly at you know,
the the battle between you know, making something that's profitable
and making something that's creative has always kind of been there. Yeah,
Producers and folk alike have always wanted to be like,

(11:34):
let's try to make the best movie for as little
as possible. Let's do this right and and I think,
you know, time will tell. We're seeing a lot of
great examples of people, you know, kind of swinging the
other direction and kind of set their feet firmly in
the ground and say, Yo, this isn't the way to go.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah. I mean you're a big like fan of like
original films, Like I remember you were really going in
on like Monkey Man when it came out, which I've
fucked with Monkey many, dude.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
But the crazy thing about something like Monkey Man is
that this is what's so backwards about sometimes. You know,
the business part of the movie making business is that
a movie like Monkey Man can come out and you know,
the people that watch it enjoy it, and it has
a little bit of legs and great acting and really

(12:23):
great visuals, blah blah blah. Filmmaking is top tier, but
it can still be perceived merely because of a you know,
of a box office Yeah, you know ranking that it
was quote unquote unsuccessful, And I'm like, well, that's I
I refuse to believe that. I refuse to believe that

(12:43):
that you know, that this one soul factor in a
movie is is what makes something worthy or not. And
the fact that you know, these types of movies, the
the Monkey Man of the like of the industry are
going to be the first to kind of go on
the wayside as companies start to slim down and move

(13:07):
more like Fortune five hundred companies instead of places making
art and and yeah, I'm I'm I'm equally as into them,
you know, those types of movies as I am seeing
how people want to you know, kind of renovate and
bring back to new generations the stuff that we know

(13:27):
and love from a kid too, So I think it's
like it's I love that push though.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean I think there's room for like all
modes of storytelling, right, Like you can have your original films,
you could have like continuations of films that we know, right,
Like some of the greatest movies of all time. Our
sequels are remakes, right, Like you know The Department from
Martin Scorsese is a remake of Infernal Affairs, right. Terminator

(13:54):
two is one of my favorite action movies of all time. Right,
I feel like what Dan Trachtenberg is doing with the
Predator franchise like reinvigorating it, and the Alien franchise being
rigor reinvigorated with Alien Earth. There's room for these type
of things, but in terms of like how we view
the and or like right, like I still haven't watched it,
but like from my friends who like tell me about it,

(14:16):
they position is one of the best pieces of like
media ever out there, right, And the fact that that's
coming from Star Wars it's insane. So like, but I
agree with you when it comes to like a signing
of value on a piece of art, like based off
of like how much it's made or how much is
that it's very similar to it, And I don't want

(14:37):
to make too much of a comparison to like content
creation and like making movies. There are completely different things.
But I feel like content creation is a microcosm of
the algorithmic framework framework of thinking, right, where it's like
people are making great content, it's just that maybe the
algorithm isn't pushing the content as well. That doesn't mean
the content isn't good. That doesn't mean the creator suck.
That just means they haven't had that pop off moment.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
And also algorith one of them was created you know outside,
like without the peripheral to take in that other stuff.
The algorithm for movies is such that you know, folk
of color have only been have made way less movies. Yes,
so when you're judging these statistics on you know, the

(15:21):
same in a vacuum, it's like how it doesn't act
like it's not it's not wagh the same.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Right, And then also they don't have as much a
lot of times they're not put in positions to have
the resources to make like those big swings right like
every now and then we'll get someone who like completely
breaks the mode. I have this thing that I talk
about with my friends all the time, especially when we
talk about like people of color, specifically African Americans in
the space is black famous, right, and you have like

(15:49):
actors that everybody in the hood knows, right, Like you
see them, you're just like, oh, that's Blair Underwood, Like, oh,
that's Anihilate. Then like oh, Regina Hall was black famous
for a long, long, long long time. But then you
have like, you know, your mainstream black like people like
Ryan Coogler, right, Michael b Jordan Washington, Will Smith for
the longest time. And it's like these people were putting

(16:11):
the best positions, like they took advantage of the opportunity
that they got. They got the chance and they took
advantage of it, and then they became the mainstay. It's
like a double edged sword when you think about it,
because it's like I remember watching this documentary where I
think it was Blair Underwood who said during the time,
it was either you have to be Denzel or you
have to be Blair Underwood to be put into something right,
And so they're only looking at oh, these are the

(16:32):
ones that made it. But when you look at like
the grand scheme of themes. If you put people of
color in positions like you would have James Cameron and
give them a chance like a like a Martin Scorsese,
then you would see like those yielded results. They're doing
the best with what they have, right, Like it's just kind.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Of hitting on something there. I think like that totally
reminds me of the experience kind of getting to work
on something like a blue beetle with the director, like
on head, because he really got to in that moment
step up, you know, to the same plate that so
many folk you know, that we admired before, you know,

(17:10):
we're in the same shoes of and to see how
he handled that dynamic, I think it you're so right
in that when you have the opportunity to do that,
like it's a double edged sword. Fortunately and unfortunately, like
when that mic gets past you, you better be got
to that because it's not going to come back around

(17:31):
for a while, if you know, if if you know,
rock the mic and and getting to see him in
that moment, I was like.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
He crushes this guy is crushes that moment.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
And it wasn't easy, bro, Like the dude spent years,
you know, before the movie even hit day one of production.
You know, we had production, a year plus of post production,
all of this stuff. Like he put his heart and
soul into this thing, and every single day you know,

(18:05):
on set post production, there was some you know, and
I don't I don't believe it to be you know,
kind of malicious or malintent, but but a wanting to
make it more you know.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Approachable to everyone.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, And I think what he did really well was
show everyone that actually, when you zoom in the magnifying glass,
you see that, you know, these folk are a bunch
of cells just like you are back home. Yeah, like,
actually you learn Oh wow, I didn't know that we
had such a similar experience, you know myself, and you know,

(18:44):
this Mexican family here and and a hell as a
Puerto Rican director, Like I thought, he bridged that gap
really well. And it was unfortunate timing for just putting
out a movie at that time, but it was in
the same vein of something like a monkey man. I
refuse to believe. And I've seen, I've witnessed the effects

(19:08):
that this has had on children and families alike, and
that is not a fail, like you.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Know, yeah, so to.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know, he's I'm excited for his his next gig
and can't wait to work together again soon. But it's
really profound when you get to witness someone in that moment,
like you're talking about having the bells and whistles to
perform at that.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Level, and you know what, like I want to keep
like talking about this because something you said that was
very interesting to me, and that was like them trying
to make it approachable for everybody. Yeah, And I feel
like I feel like that's always the biggest stop gap
when it comes to creating things like a Blue Beetle,
like a Black Panther, where it's like they there's a
fear of alienating the wider audience because it's such a

(19:57):
pointed cultural like story, right, and there's a lot of comparisons.
And I'm sure that you heard it, like with Blue
Beetle being like the next Black Panther and an all
into the purposes should have been right, like it should
have like popped off at like Black Panther did. And
you know, bro, like I'm dead, Like bro when I
tell you, I'm dead as serious when I say that,
like this should have been the Black Panther of this time,

(20:19):
I've made videos. I've seen many people make videos say
like this is the black panther for the Latino community.
And so when when you look at and when you
look at something like a black panther, Ryan Cougan was
very very specific that he did not want to like
create something that was a He's very conscious of making
something that is universal, but he knows that his experience

(20:41):
as a black man is like it's inherent.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
It's inherent in Harry breathes every day exactly like like
the like the like not to get too much into
the black panther thing, becau I'm gonna get to this
point is like the beauty of black panther is like, yes,
there is like a story about like a guy who
feels by a futuristic version of African.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Americans and saying you left us behind. Let me turn
the world on its head and make us the masters
now because we've been oppressed for so long. But like
everyone can deal with like themes of like being alienated
by their family being the heavywear is the crown. Like
these are universal themes just told through a black lens
and so a blue beetle. The theme of family is universal, right,

(21:25):
it's just the dynamics in a Latino family maybe different
than the dynamics of a white family of a black family,
And I feel I get very offended and like quite
frankly like upset for you when I even get a
whiff of someone saying, oh, well, I don't want to
be preached to too much when it comes to that
lens of like the Latino community. So but what I

(21:46):
wanted to ask, though, is when you're watching, like when
you're making Blue Beetle, knowing the success of Black Panther
and what it could do for the Latino community, was
there any conversation between you and on Heell and maybe
even like Onheld in the studio where they were like, well,
look what Black Panther did, they can do it, we
can do that too. Did that ever like happen? Was
I ever talked about?

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know, it was not not specifically with something like
I don't remember specifically Black Panther being name dropped. Yeah,
but there was this sense in pre production as the
movie was getting its legs that like, oh, you know,
the movie was originally a Max original and or like

(22:27):
a you know, a movie straight to streaming, and in
the process of figuring out what the movie was to be,
and you know, the characters that in the story that
we were going to unfold with the studio, did you know,
resonate or take kindly to this idea that like, whoa,
this actually is could be huge? Right, you know, this

(22:47):
could this could be worldwide, this could be global. And
they were kind enough to kind of bump it up
to this theatrical release to all the beaters and and
I remember, you know, being in Target, fuck Target, but.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
This was way back when and.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I got a call from onhand and he was like, Bro,
we're going to be in theaters now. And I think
that that kind of also it.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Had to give you up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, it's this creatine of like, okay, it's this exhilaration
of all right, you know this mixed in with when
we got to production, every single person and this was
the first time that I had ever had this happen
to me. But you know, from in front of the
camera to the writers, to our sound people, to you know,

(23:39):
the people making the score wardrobe, Like there were so
many people of color that on the first day of
meeting them were like, bro, I signed up for this
right away because I want to be a part of
history like this, and and that feeling I had never
felt before, and that that sense of you know, pride
that came with getting to work on a production I

(24:01):
hadn't felt to this degree. And and for those reasons
I did, you know, it did feel like, Yo, this
is gonna be massive. Like I was constantly having you know,
covered like joking, like talking to people who have worked
on because you know, a lot of these people have

(24:22):
worked on tons of the Marvel and DC stuff and
they're like, yeah, this is your first radio but.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
This is not.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
So I would be like, is this what it always
feels like? And they're like, no, this is really awesome.
This is special. And I think that that kind of
stands a test of time in a way that no
money can't quantify.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
No, no, absolutely. And I feel like, because I look
at the critical response to the movie got really great critical,
really great critical response. It got a really great audience response,
Like I think it's sitting at ninety percent on the
Tomato meter. Shoutout, I check that out. I believe it's
actually the audience. This will be so embarrassing, but I'm
so confident right now. Actually felt like, oh, it's rot

(25:09):
This is when I tell you, like Lee listen as
big as I thought it was. Wait oh no, but
what is it at?

Speaker 5 (25:14):
So Tomato meter seventy eight, let's go audience meter ninety.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Okay ninety And honestly, like, I feel like I'm not
I gotta be careful of what I say here because
I feel like the I feel like as as a
critic who deems himself as like more of a just
a guy who like likes movies like part of the
audience as well a movie appreciates a movie appreciator, right,
because like I always like shy away from recruited, like right,

(25:40):
I feel like that comes with like a lot of
like baggage that I'm quite frankly like not ready for.
But I feel like when it comes to the audience response,
like that says a lot than like a critics score,
because I feel like I feel like critics go in
with and you know, I could be guilty of this too,
with this attitude of like impress me, right, And I

(26:01):
don't think that's a way. I don't think that's a
way to go into a movie, right, like over analytical,
like over criticizing. Like I feel like there a lot
of critics can lose the plot of what a movie
is about and forget how a movie makes you feel,
for service of like oh do you do you connect
with this on a personal level, and they lose that
right Like they'll go in say like I don't understand

(26:23):
the meaning of a Latino family meaning to do these
certain things, and then that affects the reviews.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Or they're like some of this felt forced, you know,
things like that, but this was just this is just
how it is.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Like I see a lot more critics come around on
their opinions of a movie late farther down the line
than I see an audience that always loved it from
the get go, right, So like when I see a
ninety percent audience score, that makes me go like, okay,
like it hit yeah, but seventy nine from the critics thing,
it's like that's fucking great movie. That's a great fucking movie, right,

(26:53):
So like so like I just wanted to like like
clear that up. But with this movie that came out,
like obviously there's like there was a bunch of of
factors outside of the movie itself. We talk about algorithms, right, Like,
you didn't factor in that the strike was happening during
that time. That cut off a legs of that cut
off the legs of a lot of creators who couldn't
talk about the film during that time and like hype
it up. And this was like, because what month did

(27:15):
up Blue Beetle come out? It was August. It was August.
The strike didn't end until October, so that's like three
months of like like not having to strike the iron
Wallow was hot and create this like discourse around it
because obviously there was like you know, a bigger conversation
being had over the strikes and everything. But I felt
the same way about one piece, which we will talk about. Yeah,
well I felt the same way where I was like

(27:36):
two things that I loved, right, I cannot talk about
I cannot publicly like shout out like, Yo, this is
great because this this and this and this and that, Yo,
that's that's so wild.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I remember being in Mexico and getting to meeting Yaki
before the show had come out, but he had already
filmed it and we were kind of just yeah, we
were getting to it was really for that moment, Yeah,
to get to actually sit across from someone who did
understand kind of what was about to happen, and you know,
thankfully they're getting to come back for new seasons and

(28:08):
you know the story is going to continue. And they
kind of were able to rise above that wave, just
kind of like Blue Beetle did. But it was it
did feel especially vulnerable in that time, you know, especially
when it does feel like everyone around you is telling you.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Like be ready. We were feeling like.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I wasn't, you know, emotionally prepared for that not to happen.
Like it was definitely a interesting, uh kind of weeks
after because I felt like, oh my god, it's all
leading up to this day right here and then Sally
but surely I realized like whoa, it's it's you know,
it lives past this day, like this is this isn't

(28:52):
the end all be all, and you know, they ended
up lifting the strike and thank goodness that Dune was
posted so that they could do promo for it, and
like it. I think it it kind of all leveled
out in a way. But it was really nice to
get to chat with the Yaki.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, I want to talk to you more about that
in a second, but what like to say on the
Blue Beetle points, Like I got talking about that moment,
Like we all felt it from an audience perspective of like,
this is going to be huge, right, Like people were
like making videos, people were making likes on it and everything.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
The Blue Beetle Battalion was going strong everyone. I want
to say that that's maybe where I first met you.
Wasn't at it was at Cinemicon. Yeah, I remember this,
but we did the best DAP up ever. It was
like a reverberate.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, it was great. That's when we first met. Man.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
It was it was a real awesome time and like
it was the most comforting and grounding experience and otherwise
kind of you know, crazy time to be releasing a movie.
Folk like yourself were so integral and making you know,
and making this whole thing feel fantastic.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
And I got I got like approached with a moment
that like really tested me when it came to that movie,
because this was so the when the strike happened, I
was in London and I was at the premiere for
Oppenheimer and you know, this is like the first strike
since what in nineteen two thousand and six or something
like that. It's been a miniere and the like influencers

(30:29):
wasn't a thing during that time, and I remember, like,
you know, I got to a little bit of hot
water when like you know, I didn't know how to act,
like because of the strike, and so like the way
I said, the way I thought about it was like, well,
I'm not an actor, I'm not a writer. I'm just
going to keep making my videos and like, you know,
we'll see what happens. And I had like some like

(30:49):
pre existing like brand deals and I say like I'm
gonna finish That didn't clarify. I was like I'm gonna
finish those, but like I'm definitely what the strike and
things that's sort And then I got completely misconstrued to
be like, oh, well you're gonna take You're gonna be scabbing,
like you're gonna be taking their jobs and promoting their
films and this and this and that, and I'm just
like I have no idea how this works, like at all.
Like I literally it was like the first day of

(31:10):
the strike, and I was just like, please don't call
me a scab. I just this is the first day.
I have no idea what to do. So like it
was like a very sensitive time from like an influencer standpoint,
who talks about movies like how do we conduct ourselves
and how do we do our jobs and make and
make our money while this is happening. And so I
just kind of like went all in on, like the
one piece content was just like, let me just do that. Luckily,

(31:31):
I'm very knowledgeable about that. So that's what my whole
content was throughout the duration. But the moment that tested
me was I was at San Diego Comic Con. I
came straight from London with the San Diego Comic Con,
and I remember a studio exec from Warner Brothers approached
me and he was like, Yo, we got this Blue
Beetle screening happening soon. We would love for you to

(31:51):
like see the movie and like talk about it like
on your channels and like because of all that was
going on, and because of like the emotions were high
because of the strike, Like I was like, I want
to talk about this. It felt like that. Thank you
for referencing that. I was like, do, I was like,
and I told him straight up. I told him, I said, bro,

(32:12):
like I don't think that's like appropriate to do during
this time, like as much as I want to as
soon as it's over, because we didn't know how long
it was gonna end up going, so like we were thinking,
like maybe another couple of weeks or something. I said, bro,
please like hit me up in like another couple of
weeks when the strike is done. Ended up being a
couple of months. And I just feel like during that time,
like everybody got their legs cut off to like like

(32:33):
really hype up this movie as well as a bunch
of other things as well as one piece. So like
but something, I'll read these out to you right now,
because like I was actually like looking at some of
the comments on like the trailers and stuff like that,
and like even on the comments of some of your
uh some of your low Lobos podcasts as well, are
all talking about Blue Beetle, and I want to read

(32:53):
you two of them. Uh. The past year has been
tough for me until I saw Blue Beetle Sholo. You
changed my life and your movie was perfect. I wish
I could meet you in person because what I've witnessed
is truly inspirational.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
The second one, and you commented that, no, we're meeting.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Now, Yes, I did do that. No, that comment was
from Madison Grace zero zero nine two years ago. Truly
a gentleman. Can't wait till your next podcast.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Oh, Maddie, that's that's really sweet.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I think it's.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, it's really profound the opportunity to get to fill
these shoes and this character in this project was so
much larger than myself, so to get to, you know,
take some moments. Thank you for for kind of bringing
that up. It's always nice to kind of have that reminder.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
It's like when you hear those things. So I'm sure
people come up to you all the time and tell
you like how amazing you were in the movie and
like how they want you to Which one do you
get like approach for most, Cobra Kai or Blue Beetle. Hmm.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I'd say it's probably Cobra Khai m hmm. But I
feel when it is Blue Beetle, it's like you it's like, yeah,
I don't have the experience just yet where I can
right away be like, Okay, this is what I know,
because honestly, for me, most often it's like, has anyone
ever told you that you look like the guy like

(34:35):
the steak?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
You're like, huh, you look yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I was at In and Out and they were like,
because anyone ever told you look like the guy from
Miguel from Cobra Kai.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
He was like yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I was like yeah, I get that sometimes. Pleasure to
meet you and they're like, oh nice to.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
What are you doing.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
What are you doing in Island Park right now? Like, girl,
I live here. I'm like this is this.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Is that's crazy. That is great. What are you doing
at Island Park? Okay, no, Mercy exists everywhere.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, Like the show is based in la I thought
that was like fake, it was fake.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
But the studio Atlanta, Yeah it was in Atlanta. But great,
great fucking show. But like I just I do get
comfort like seeing the people's response to Blue Beetle and
also seeing people they want you back to Peacemakers so much. Bro,
you talk to my boy jenks Man like he was
like Peacemaker, Peaceker, peace maker, And I will admit, like,

(35:35):
I'm really hoping, like to see Blue Beetle return. I
know you're like returning with a voice roll pretty so
for Blue Beetle, right.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's you know, there's a good number
of angles I think to bring Blue Beetle back in
and you know, by nature of how the gears turn
over there, which one is going to hit first. I'm
not too sure, but yeah, I'm I'm just as excited
as everyone else to watch that last episode of Peacemaker
and see if blue beetles.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Again. Imagine like does that mean hey, are you?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I mean look look, technically they maybe it's like a
Mando situation where they're like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Look the mask, but it's not your face.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
They know I'm a black mouth too, so they wouldn't
tell me if they did something like that.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's that's like you're there reveal to you. That's like, yo,
honestly I want to see you. Are you going to
do this? Are you going to react to the episode
as you're watching to see if like a blue beetle cameo,
that would be react.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
We just get to the credits and I'm like, so happy.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
We saw wonder Woman, we saw the new wonder Woman.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
We saw yeah, we saw a wrist bracelet of wonder Woman,
not even the full person, but yeah, check out. But yeah,
I don't know if I I haven't honestly gotten that
far in head about thinking about what to do about
this this uh season finale, but I've been liking everything

(37:06):
that I've been watching, so far that last episode with
John Cena, I mean, that had some.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Real so so good moments in it, and the moment
he screams like no, I said, bro, why did I
get chills?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, dude, it's it's it's crazy to think of all
your homies, your squads taking out my brother and then yeah,
and then the reveal at the end that I mean,
I was, yeah, I'm I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
I mean, I'm a huge fan of like the Peacemaker series,
and like, I just love how integral and intricate the
story is when it comes to its characters, Like like
the first episode he referenced I believe her name is
a white buddy, oh yeah, which is like the most
minor of characters.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
He's going to interview for the Justice Gang and she.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
She's like walking out, and I'm like, I was like,
is that how do I even know why? Buddy? Like
that's crazy? Is so well what I feel like with
this one, And this is like where my theory brain,
because you know this design came up. Man, this is
like my theory brain. Like he already has his brother.
Sean is like Maxwell Lord who is integral to the
I want to say, which story was that it's the
story where Maxwell kills Ted Cord Blue Beetle Word and

(38:19):
then like obviously we have the like protege him come
in to like take over. So I'm like, if Maxwell
Lord is already here, tech Cord is most definitely like here.
We know that. But plus, this is like set like
years after meta humans have already been revealed. There are
like there's we're already on the third of Green Lantern
with Guy Gardner. So like Batman, Robin, you know, Wonder Woman,

(38:42):
her psychic I can't remember her name for the life
of me, but Ted Cord, Jimi Reyes, that's completely in
the ballpark. So I'm like, if they want to go,
I want to say like, and I hope it's not
this far down the line, but I want to say
that there's already in this universe tech Court's already existing
Word and he's already like like being a mentor too Highmi,

(39:03):
you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm just like, that's interesting. Listen,
you said that very sketch bro I'm not gonna lie
like that that's interesting. We'll see, We'll see. That's a
very way to say that. I will just point that out.
I think that's super interesting. I I I a little bit, man.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I mean, honestly, you put me on game, I'm like, oh, Maxwell, Lord,
but they're connected. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
You know. What I do know for certain is that
it's gonna be something kind of unexpected. Like everything that
I've seen so far come from this new wave in
the DC has been I think quite surprising and subverted expectations.
So I think in that same vein the way in
which Blue Beetle gets presented all of these other Blue

(39:58):
Beetles and that whole side of universe, I just know
it's gonna be taking people for a loop.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Last thing I must say on this Blue Beetle thing,
I know that, for for sake of playing with you,
if Blue Beetle comes back, right, he's gonna get the
biggest audience reaction that I really do think it's gonna
get them. Bro, He's gonna get a huge audience reaction.
I'm talking like a par with like for sure, right,

(40:24):
Like it's gonna be on par with like Deadpool and Wolverine,
where like Blade guys pulled in.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
They better I know, if that happens, they better like
leave it out of the spoilers all that like they
got to it's gotta just be.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
But then the months later we got to see those
like audience reaction YouTube videos like how we got with
like Spider.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Garfield and Gay Garfield came out, and then I would
love that.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I want the edits of like the cheers and the
theaters and stuff like that when they see you, bro, Like,
I know that's inevitable.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
There were there were some that I saw from the
from the original Blue Beetle movie of some of the
most fun moments from that way, they would just get
the audience, like at the end when he kisses the girl,
Everyone's like what everyone got a.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Little win there.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I've gotta feel good, Bro't Like that's so crazy, Like.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
And that tells you. That tells you, like the moment
in time and like it was like what it is? Right?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
So so fun?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah? All right, So now we got to get into
we gotta get into we have to get into this.
I've been shaking, like getting to talk to you about
that one piece one piece? How big one piece? How
big a fan of one piece are you? Like, tell
me where you're at, tell me like you're so.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm a fan in the premise right to be honest,
my first first exposure was the live action. After meeting
in Yaki, I was like, oh, I'm really interested in
seeing what this is about. It always seems too intimidating
an anime for me to get into, or am I'm
gonna get into just because of course it's how long
it is. Watch that loved it. I think in Yaki's

(42:01):
cast so perfect. I love this idea of friendship and
you know, found family and camaraderie and you can achieve anything.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Love this my bestie. He
and his family are caught up. Yo, Jacob is one
of my Jacob is damn near caught up. You've seen

(42:21):
so much of it, but no, my my childhood homie, Anthony,
he and his family go way back on the one piece,
and so getting to hear from him like yo, this
is the story or yo, but this is going on?
I think it has definitely intrigued me. I've seen the
first two hundred episodes.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Now that's not.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
So. I'm likeisodes yeah, and they say it gets really
good at two fifty, so I'm still hanging it.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Now, before you go any further, I'll be just saying
this in the camera right now. If you are out
here running around saying that one piece gets good at
two fifty, we need to outshoot from the fandom. It's
been good, okay, if you're not lost, it's been good.
Like like, I don't know, I just get like a
certain level of irate when I hear like, oh yeah,

(43:10):
it doesn't get good because when people say that, I'm like,
who's telling you this? Let me see them? Let me
see them.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
The third season.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Starts off, why did you get that far? If it
wasn't popping off of the first episode, it was just
confusing up until then.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
But you throw it click.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I kept going, so yeah, so please stop doing that.
I will find you and we will we will have
a frank discussion. But it gets good pretty early. Honestly, Yeah,
I think I do say that if you're not locked
in by uh uh, I would say I would say,
like I want to say, like you get locked in
by shoot. I will say, like Zoro Okay, I would say,

(43:50):
like Zoro, but like this episode two and that's like
episode two like that, because was like the most he's
everybody's favorite character. He's badass as hell, Like you find
out his backstory, like this guy's a cool motherfucker, right,
So I feel like that's like it's like Zoro. But
then like if you're really not locked in by Arlong Park,
because that whole Nammy back story is just like crazy,

(44:12):
It's like that's and I'm glad that the live action
like took the first season and said that's going to
be like our finale, like the r Long Park thing,
because it deserves that. But yeah, man, so two hundred,
two hundred episodes and nothing to sneeze at. So I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
I don't know where I range on the scale of
like super big fan to kind of casual. Yeah, but
I'm a I'm a real great appreciator of it. I
think it's so it's one of these things that you
can go down Marianna's trenching, like the people that love
it love it, and I think whenever that happens, it

(44:47):
does pique my interest in like, dude, I want to know.
I want to love it too.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I want to know where people are. You know, it's
I mean, it's the community is like awesome, Like I
love I love my one piece family, like and like,
I think the cool thing about I routinely say that
one piece is the greatest story like ever told. Like
I think it's the greatest story in fiction. I don't
think there's anything like it.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
And so caught up.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I'm all caught a klonga anime live action. I'm gonna
watch the uh, I'm gonna watch the remake that they're
doing with A. I believe it's Wit Studio who did
like Attack on Titan and Spy Family and those things,
so they're redoing remaking it. So they're remaking the anime.
There's already thousands of it, but that the pacing is
going to be like condensed now really yeah, So if
you want to like really like someone, you're like, oh no,

(45:32):
I love them. I love it, like because one to
go back, We're about to go and watch it duve
eds up.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
So okay, so it's gonna get like a spruce up
on some of the animation.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yes, so I I love I think it's called Wit
Studio and I want to say, yeah, they did Attack
on Titan. They're also behind like Spy Family, which their
animation is like sublime, and I believe they like dropped
some teasers like last year as to like what it's
going to look like. But they did say that the
pacing is going to be very much condensed, because like
that's like the big criticism of one pieces, like the

(46:02):
pacing of the show, which I can fully admit. Like
the pacing of the show, they're dragging a lot of
things I can't hang, don't come aboard, and sh I
see that all the time.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Hey, look, it's.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Not for you.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Just say that.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I say, not everybody can make it to the Grand Line.
Not everybody could make it to the Grand Line. Even
less people could make it to the New World and
even one even less people get to the one piece.
So if you you know piece, nobody nobody knows who.
I think there's only two people in the world who
know about the one piece, and it's Oda obviously right,

(46:35):
and then I believe it's like his like main editor
on the anime.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh that's so crazy, and can told me like last week.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Just don't know that, don't do that, don't do that.
We can't be just giving this information out here like this.
This is this is how society copses. You take this
one secret and you're just giving it out to like
random people, like that would be crazy if you actually
knew and you're just sitting on it. But I mean, no,
it's I can't even lie. I don't know, no, and honestly,

(47:03):
and I like the fact that I don't know, and
I left. How in the show, there's like many opportunities
for him to know what it is. Really like, there's
a there's an episode where Rayley, who eventually trains Loofy,
like later he you know, he sailed with Roger, he
was his number two high and he says, you know,
they obviously know that he's made it to the one
piece and like he completed everything, and so usap Yo,
tell me what the what piece is? What the treasure

(47:25):
does it? And Loofy gets so hype. He says, hell, no,
I don't want to know what if I find out,
this whole adventure done, so like I'm done. He was like,
I have no idea what it is. I don't want
to know what it is. I just want to get there.
He told USA to shut the fuck up so fast.
And I was like, yourself a couple like a couple

(47:47):
of decades, David, like a storyteller, but like like I'm
glad that we don't know what it is and like
people the number one criticism that I hear with One Pieces,
why does it have to be so long? Like nothing
needs to be that long. And I say, when it
comes to like some of the greatest stories that we know,
a lot of those stories have a lot of parts
to it, and a lot of them is like very,
very long, right, in order to appreciate how hard this

(48:10):
task is. Because I remember first watching that first episode
and when you hear Lufy wants to be the Pirate King,
you think, like, Okay, we're only here for like a
couple of years, and he'll achieve it. But people tell
him like, no, this is an impossible task. You're crazy
if you think you're going to do this. And then
by the end of it, and like I want to say,
the next seven years or so, when he finally does it,

(48:31):
we're gonna look back at that episode and say, WHOA,
that actually was a crazy journey to get there. And
I feel like it's one of the few stories to
where not only do the characters earn getting to the
last island, the audience will earn it too, Right. I
think about this moment all the time, the last episode
of One Piece, where instead of it's saying to be continued,

(48:52):
it will say the end, and there's a collective sigh,
a collective relief, like a collective like joy and in
the world because it's a worldwide thing that we all
go we made it, like we did this right even
right now, right seeing Loofy, I don't know, this is
a little bit of a spoiler, but like, hey, we
seen that, we seen him in this year five form

(49:13):
and everything. Okaylufy's now considered an Emperor of the sea, right,
he's one of the four like four most powerful pirates
and most notorious pirates in the world. And to see
him go from that, see him go from like guy
and a barrel popping out and being like that, it
was a great nap to like he now people like
think twice before even that's manifests. We're talking. You want

(49:34):
to talk about aura farming, Like I feel like that's
the right way to or he called it day one,
day one, right, and he still hasn't even made.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
It yet, And I think, yeah, and I love that
that sentiment of like yo, with persistence and like having
your laser focused on something.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, no one can stop you. Yeah, even even when
you fail too, like you're gonna fail, but like you
gotta get back up and as long as you got
like people behind you who My favorite moment the whole
show is when his crew be like, oh, he's gonna
be pirate king and fuck you for thinking otherwise, like
like like I haven't.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Made it there yet, but well.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
That's what I'm saying. Is like like when the crew
themselves start like talking to the bad guys, We're talking
like these are like bad guys who are like Krim
Dela Krime, like top of the world, Like these guys
can like go to war with entire nation type bad guys, right,
and you have the weakest member of the straw Hats
being like, now, Lufy's gonna like overtake you, and I

(50:30):
have full belief in that, and I'm gonna make it happen.
Like there's this moment, and I want to get too
much in the sports because I do want you to experience,
but there's this moment in the one thousandth episode, and
it's also in one thousand chapter as well, where it's
the War of only Goshima. They're about to take on
Kaido and Big Mom the two of the Emperors of
the Sea, and all the straw Hats like kind of
come together and Lufi's got like his whole crew by

(50:52):
his back. He just got Jimbay onto his crew. So
they have the new member and they're just looking tough
like they're behind or whatever, and they all say something
along the lines of like what they're going to do
to get Loofy to where he needs to be, and
Nami says like, hey, like I'm the navigator, It's my
job to like point my captain where he wants to go.
And then Frankie says like, well, let let let the
show get clear the way for you. You know what

(51:12):
I'm saying. You guys are just being like, yeah, your
number two's got your back, and you're just like all
these people they're the Avengers and like to see like
every and like I think during this time they're like
allied with like Samurai, their allied with like strange like
like I want to say, like animal people called minks,
and they got like all Lufy literally has a whole
army like at his back, and like you see these

(51:34):
people who are looking to Loofy and they say, I
know we're out numbered, but with this guy like at
the head, I think we're going to win this and
we're unstoppable. Because that dude has such supreme belief in
himself and his crew. We got belief in ourselves. So
let's fucking let's do this. And this is like right
when the war kicks off. So it's moments like that

(51:55):
that's like more than just like the story of like
finding the one piece. It's, like you said at the person,
since it's the uh, it's the drive to do something
that only you know that you can do, right, And
so yeah, one Piece is like my entire ship. But
when it comes to this live action, Yeah, I know
there's been a lot of talk and I have there's

(52:17):
been a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Of talk even even Okay, we'll talk about this, but
you go, where are you gonna?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Oh, I was gonna say, like, uh, some some people
have like leaked that you've already been cast in one Piece,
and it's been it's been hard for me to kind
of argue people. One guy, he's actually mutual of mine.
I believe his name is Lucas. He's a Brazilian actor
and he's been campaigning to do ACE for a long time,
for a long time, and I believe he was on

(52:41):
a podcast and he like he was talking to a
friend and he was like, yeah, man, Like I just
wanted my chance to play Ace, and he was like,
oh yeah, man, my boys, Sholo has already been cast
his Ace.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Oh okay, and it was it was to meet you.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Nice to meet you don't know who?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Okay, Yeah, dude, I mean it is is quite I
mean even I am so surprised at the connection that
folk are making with me and this character, you know,
as someone who is not as familiar with you know,
the whole story, I was so like, what they really
that like that I could be the guy. That's so

(53:19):
that's so like it's always it's very humbling that that thought.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
It's even more humbling.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
What like we did Geeked Week last year, this kind
of like convention type thing for the new Netflix projects,
and Jacob and I were casting the event and that's
where they were announcing like the Croc and some of.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
The other characters were.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
There, and we did a whole photo shoot that day
right with like all of the you know, they had
you know, all the folk from One Piece and Wednesday,
and then Jacob and I were in the photo avatar
and I remember like someone commented in the IG like, oh,
that's our Ace. And then Netflix like the They like

(54:04):
it was like, yep, that's our and I'm like, yo,
like what the heck? Like this is slander. At this point,
this feels bad actually because I don't have the job
and y'all are just out here like fan in the flame.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Oh man, I don't know. Man, that sounds like a
confirmation of men.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
They shouldn't have been like literally literally they had no idea.
They're like, I've never watch One Piece.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I don't know what that means, but we'll like it already.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
This comment has a lot of likes. Let's uh, let's
let's I was like, listen, yeah, I called like my
phone and I was like, hey, have we heard anything.
They're like no, I'm like okay, well, but uh it's
it's it's a weird experience having someone be like, yo,
I I I think you'd be great for this role.

(54:54):
I'd love to, you know, live up to that expectation
that it's always nice to get to be a part
of a new family in that regard. But yeah, we'll
just have to wait and see him.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Dude. Ace is such as like a huge part of
the piece, huge one thing. So I don't want to
tell you because I don't want to spoil it, Yeah,
I don't want to spoil it, but like obviously, like
we do know that he is Lufy's brother, right, super
popular in the fandom. I believe like he was ranked,
like I want to say, like number twenty in like
a most popular pole Like don't fact check. You can

(55:24):
look at that kill for me if you want to
fact check that. But he's a very popular character. And
let's just say that his ties in the story are monumental. Yeah,
he has probably a top three moment in one piece. Really, yes,
it's a top three moment. Like it's a moment where
you mentioned ace to people. Everybody knows what we're talking about, okay, right,

(55:45):
we mentioned the moment where like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And it's not his like spoiler alert, it is that moment, okay,
but it's more.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It's also more than that. It's also more than that, like, h.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Well, I can't wait to get to that. I don't
know what episode that is.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
And that's the thing too, because like it is like
an Alabasta moment, like he does he does appear for
the first time in Alabasa.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I've seen that. I've seen that art, right, and.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
So yeah, so like but I believe, like the way
this season is set up, it's going to end right
when they get to Alabasta right season two, because I
know they filmed season two or three back to back,
and I know towards the end of the season that's
what will meet Choppers, like episode six or something like that,
and they do the doctor arc, and I think after

(56:31):
Drum Island that's when, like Alabasta we get there, and
then we'll set up for like that because Alabasta is
a huge arc. It's huge.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
That's the kroc right with Crocodile going to go look
at that tablet.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
And exactly the read the stuff exactly, and like just
me thinking of this from like a storyteller perspective, like
VV for all into the purposes, we consider her a
straw hat as well, right, but she doesn't obviously stay
with the straw hats for long because she has to
rule Alabasta and that type of thing. But I think
it's the best way to like submit VV as part
of the crew, give her a full season plus some

(57:02):
and like the full on Alabasta arc, and then we
leave her behind and then she gets replaced with Nico Robin,
who is also making her appearance in the season two
as well. But I feel like ACE would be like
a season three edition with a season two tease, so like,
you don't have to tell me, but I'm willing to
bet a lot of money in my pocket that a

(57:25):
post credit like to the finale scene, and it probably
isn't gonna be you, but like a scene where you
see a character from the back, his shirt is off,
he has the iconic like tattoo, like the ACE tattoo,
and then you see his flips his finger and there's
like fire on his hand or something, and then we cut.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Jacobs has said something nearly similar about like yo, like
in terms of how to set up this thing, because
there's even you know, yeah, like you're saying, there's parts
in the show where he shows up briefly and then
you know you can see him again for a bit. So, look,
when does it come out? When does the season two
come out?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
I want to say March next year. March.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Check them, it's coming out twenty twenty six. Everyone watches
so that we can get a season three listening already
have season three Season four.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Yeah, I think we're already agreeing.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
With just some time in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Six just sometime in twenty that's awful.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Is that a freaking slim.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah? Maybe in a no, maybe maybe a little bit
maybe at the do. But also I laugh at this
because a lot of people will consider Ace like they're
best man. Like they're oh, like, like, what's the what's
the male equivalent to? Oh?

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Oh, It's like that's their crush, that's their crush.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
And I feel like them connected you to Ace says
a lot because you're a handsome dude. Well, I was
just about to ask.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I was like, you know, Cobra Kai, Blue Beetle, these
characters don't seem similar to it, right right?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
No, No, no, they're They're completely different. Yeah, character sets, however,
we did, I mean, so we watched you grow up
on Corpora Kai literally, and so I watched a lot
of I like the growth. I like the growth by
the way. That scene and the last one made me
cry when you fucked up Axle and it kept flashing

(59:15):
back to the previous moments.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
I was crying.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I was like, shit, it's over.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
It was dope.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
For all the memories that we have.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I was like, every move was like talk to him
at some point. This is so dope. But we watched this.
We watched you like roll into a fine young man.
I should say thanks, And I feel like there was
like a moment where you awakened many women and men
just like oh, they're like, a.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Hey, I appreciate the compliments. I'm still gonna be doing
more push ups because.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
You're gonna be shirtless ninety five percent of the time.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
This so no, isn't that?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
That's like, how was it being shirtless? Is Ace?

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I haven't, I haven't is so uncomfortable. I hate being shirtless.
I wish there was, like, you know, a body suit
that I could wear.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
See like the little like cosplay body suit exactly the
heart like the hard apps and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Prosthetics are good enough. Maybe you just have a situation
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I was looking at you know, looking at photos of Ace.
I was like, this is not human. How is anyone supposed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
To Like I've seen quite a few like people like
oh no, no, like which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
But they started practicing before they even watched the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
This is true. They just like I got the body
for that. I could pull that off, but it didn't
work for it, like to work for that body, like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
It's definitely having just the small experience of getting to
work out for something like a blue beetle, and that
was my first time ever. We do a lot of
stretching and conditioning and training for Cobra Kai, A lot
of it choreography, a lot of it is almost feels
like a dance in the way that you have to
you know, know everything. And I wasn't privy to weight

(01:01:09):
training blah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Blah blah blah blah. For blue beetle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I got a taste of it and I was like,
whoa this is It's I'm not built for this stuff.
And it was so great to have, you know, in
my first entry, a team of folk that were willing
to help and kind of guide me and have me
learn about this. But it's it's it has to become
a habit. It's working out is definitely something that I've

(01:01:36):
grown to appreciate with the years and have found what
my angle is into into the whole world. It has
been really cool to kind of learn more about eating
and the different parts because it is it is a
job at the end of the day, you know, it's
it's not just like there's other things that you gotta
do and body a certain character, so it's it's always

(01:01:57):
cool to be able to push yourself, right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I keep thinking of a Kumeil nan Gianni when he
was in The Eternal you saw like that transformation shook me,
Like I like, you know, watching him for so long,
you know he's you know, average guy body right, like
you know he's a comedian and he's up there and
then you see him show up with a chisel jaw,
like like you could grape cheese on him, Like it's like, bro,
what And I liked what he said when he popped out.

(01:02:21):
Is that where he said, just so you know, the
Saint normal, right, Like, I literally am working for one
of the biggest like brands in the world. They have
the best nutritions in the world, the best trainers in
the world. I understand that the average person can't do this, right,
And yeah, I think I think he said something like
after the fact where he said, like I don't know
if he was talking more to the success of the

(01:02:42):
Eternals movie, but he said like that whole process kind
of like not messed him up, but like it really
made him like reevaluate things in his life, like the
work that he has to put in for something like that,
and then when it doesn't do well, how it messes
with your psyche and stuff like that, and so yeah, man,
like it's people forget how much of a how much
of your body goes into embodying a character, right, So like, bro,

(01:03:05):
it just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Makes it so much more impressive when you see Like
I got to watch The Smashing Machine last week, and
I was like, oh wow, this is like not everyone
can do this, Like this guy is massive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Yeah, and what a revelation for like Duayne because he's
a guy who, like we know, is a massive guy already.
But you could just tell that there's like levels to it,
like there's levels to like how you can make your body.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
He looks like mister incredible. Yeah, and that guy was
made up. Yeah that's crazy. Whoa this is?

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It was freaky a little bit. Yeah, I mean honestly,
Hiss was like, like I think his whole performance was
like kind of freaky. And I don't mean like I'm
watching it like being freaked out, but like I've never
seen that he was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Yeah, he was doing it was a great a great performance,
and I was, yeah, really really pleased.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I watched that movie and like, you know, I'm not
really big into UFC like it. That kind of like
freaks me out, Like I always feel like we're gonna
watch some like die or something like that. It's happening,
and it's happened, right. So, but when I watching this
movie and I don't know anything about Mark Kerr, and
the one thing that struck me the most about Dwayne's
performance was he's a big guy, but he's really soft spoken. Right.

(01:04:29):
It was the way he changed his speech pattern for
that role, something I've never done the most. The last
time I saw the Rock do that and he left
it behind really fast was in Fast five, where he
had kind of like a Texan like Southern like type
of accent. But this was like the first time where
like the scene that sticks out the most to me
was when he says a advil. You got advil?

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Oh to the doctor. Yeah, to the doctor overseas and
he's trying to get some Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I saw that in the trailer and I was like,
he sounds different. And then there's moment. There's moment that
gets me is when he says, I can't get on that.
You know that'll what that'll do to my tummy? And
I'm like, what he sounds like? A big teddy bear,
you know, and I feel like that. And then and
then at the I don't want to spoil it, but
there is a moment where you get to know the

(01:05:15):
actual Mark Kurve and you hear the speech patterns, and
I'm like The Rock disappeared into this role, like for
like I forgot that I was watching The Rock, and
so I think it's like really cool how he's like
reinvented himself with that role. And even now, like we
talk about box office and like, you know, the value
that we place on that when it comes to a

(01:05:35):
movie is that you know, it didn't make a lot,
think it made like six million at the domestic box office.
And he said, not everything can be determined by box office, right,
Like the box office doesn't determine everything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yeah, I feel like he's kind of jumping and they
got a little quickly though.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
He saw one too many comments.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I'm not doing this the board, but I think but
I think that also speaks to just kind of like
where he's at now because he is used to making
movies that like when he's in him and they come
out in one weekend, it's like easy thirty mil easy,
thirty mil, and so like for him, it's like it's
like when I make a TikTok and I'm used to
like two hundred k, and then i get something that's

(01:06:20):
like thirty and I'm like, oh, it's still at thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
I'm like, that's still a lot, right you should you
should come out with a post that's like, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
It's guys, what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
If I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Should I put the fries the bad bro? Should I putt?
But that's what messages up about, like like the end
result of like you know, dollar signs and views. It's
like we expect a certain amount. If we don't get
to that amount, it could mess with you, right. I
totally understand that. And I feel like with somebody with
Dwayne Johnson, at Dwayne Johnson's caliber, who was making a

(01:07:00):
lot of movies and making a lot of money regardless
of like if you thought those movies were good or not,
Dude was still making money. And now he's making something
that was like self fulfilling for him. And for him
to come out and be like it's just box office
you all, I'm saying, like, I know my worth. I
know what I could do is performance like his performance
is being praised. Right, the movie is not like bad,

(01:07:22):
it's actually pretty good. So, like it's really cool to
see Dwayne Johnson in this new kind of like mode,
and like I'm excited to see like what he does
after I know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
With like a turtle or something, right, a movie with
a turtle. Right. I saw somewhere that there was like
an article that he's going to be in a movie
where his best friend is an animal. Maybe I'm getting
it wrong that it's a turtle, but h yeah, I
think it's really cool to see folks in their experimental
kind of like breaking out of their moles. Yeah, because

(01:07:56):
it's definitely I gotta imagine that it's comfortable making however
much he's making doing what he loves already to kind
of switch gears from that, I think it's you know,
I'm always excited to see someone try something new.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah, that's always fun. But what I want to get into,
because like the whole purpose of the show Get with
Stray Goofy is that I like to learn about people
from like some of their favorite movies that are like
what I like to say, change their brain chemistry. Okay,
because I feel like when a movie changed their brain chemistry.
It is inadvertently creating who you are in real time.
They give you values in life, they make you realize

(01:08:29):
who you want to be, things of that sort. So
I need to ask you, man, like, what is a
movie that changed your brain chemistry?

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
That's a great question. I think the first one that
comes to mind is this movie Bajols Ma Luna under
the Same Moon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I feel like I've heard of this one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I'm failing to come at who you know made the
movie right now, unfortunately, but I my mom was working
an event with Haritos, the drink company, right and they
had held a screening of this movie, and my mom
just had to bring me along with her. I must

(01:09:07):
have been like six or seven or something like this,
and I remember watching the movie and I definitely didn't
understand how serious and the subject matter of the movie
was and what these characters were going through. But I
did just have this immense, like deep feeling of seeing

(01:09:34):
the movie as about a young Mexican kid and just
seeing someone that vaguely kind of like seeing a it's
based you know, I've been in Los Angeles as well.
It was instantly a click of like, oh my gosh,
someone like myself could be in a movie like this
and there's a story that I can see myself in,

(01:09:58):
you know that I definitely without having the explicit words
for it at that age and now having like revisited
the movie. Was on the plane actually a few a
few weeks back, and I was like, oh my god,
I haven't seen this in so long. I was so interested.
Let me see, Like does it even doesn't stand at

(01:10:19):
the time, I like it now like it's I so vivid,
Like I so clearly know now, like why I liked
the movie and I didn't know anything, didn't wasn't a
sent bah bah. I was fucking so young, like I
had no idea, But I see now, like whoa, it's
it's not an accident that this is a movie that

(01:10:42):
was kind of changed my chemistry, like you're saying here.
The acting is phenomenal, The story is is really great.
What's the story about the story is about this son
and his mom. It's just the two of them, and
she wants to you know, bring back more money and

(01:11:03):
have a better future for her family, so she decides
to immigrate to the States and leave the kid with
you know, his extended family. In this time, it turns
out that she actually has to be out grind a
bit harder. It's much harder to make as much as
she wants to bring him over to hire a lawyer
to do it the right way, blah blah blah blah blah.

(01:11:25):
And this ends up taking so long that the kid
is finally like, fuck it, I'm going to go to La,
you know, whatever way I can and go see my
mom because I miss her. And every day they have
a ritual where they talk on the phone and the
mom will describe, you know, at the payphone what she's

(01:11:45):
seeing around her, and she's like, oh, I see a
little Caesars, and I see you know, I see this
thing and I see this. And so he gets out
to La and he's looking at like every intersection in
La that has a little Caesar but it's it's it's
a beautiful story. He meets Udeno ATBs along the way
and he's kind of this like less than kind kind

(01:12:11):
of not a con artist, but definitely like slick, and
they ally and finally at the end he's like, all right,
I'll help you out. I guess let's do this. And
it just it shows like not only the power of friendship,
but like, yeah, it shows I think really perfectly the

(01:12:36):
sacrifice that comes with, you know, certain dynamics. Like we
were talking about off Pod, like I'm so privileged to
be in a city that my family is still in
and not be in this position where I have to
in order to achieve the dreams that I'd like to,
I have to leave my family. So this is what

(01:12:58):
this movie is about. His you know, I don't rewatch
it like I do some of my other favorites, but
it's impactful.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
It like sticks, It.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Totally gave me the bug of being like, oh, shoot,
we are we are in these movies.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Here in this here in this movie. And I love
talking about when movies influence other movies. Like when I
was talking to Ryan Coogle, he was talking about how
Puss and Boots inspired like his vampires and right, which
was like wolf, like the wolf he was like, he said,
the mannerisms, the eyes, like that was all taken directly
from Puss and Boots. Yeah, and like when you were
describing like you know this kid, because how how old

(01:13:35):
is this kid in this movie?

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
When you just be like six or seven? No, like yeah,
maybe maybe like ten?

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Okay, So it reminds me of like Cocoa, where like
he's trying to find a family member that word dead
and he runs into Hector. Yeah, and he's like the
con artists like type of character. I like, you know,
he helps him like to find him. And I wonder
if like there is like some kind of like it's
like creative inspiration board, right, like this is what totally

(01:14:04):
like you want to we want to do. And I
just love when movies can like do that regardless of
like genre or like medium. Right, So like I'm definitely
gonna be like checking that one out because I feel
like it's been recommended to me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
It's it's a great one. It's it's a really heartwarming story.
And I also have like a fascination with young performances,
like as someone who got started so young and like
was really interested in how to change into a different character.
It always fascinates me when I see a performance and

(01:14:35):
I'm like, WHOA, Wow, the fricked at this? How did
you do this? What were these adults like this can be?
But yeah, sometimes like yeah, you see some of these
shows and I'm like, whoa, this is so impressive what
some of these young minds are capable of and and
this is definitely an example of that. You ever watch adolescence,

(01:14:58):
I haven't, but I feel like i too, So I like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
It's a quick manage. I think it's only four episodes.
We each episode is like four hours, so it's like
a just basically Lord of the Rings. Wait sorry sorry, sorry,
sorry an hour so it's four hours.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Sorry, sixteen hours.

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
It's like it's that young kid is Jesus. But what
I'm about to tell you really would have been like
the Foot because every episode is shot in one take.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I heard every episode is shot in one take, and
they had like, let's say six days that they would
shoot like six takes for each episode. Yeah, the rehearsal
that goes into like it's impeccable. I for so much
of my career I didn't necessarily have the opportunity to

(01:15:47):
have this rigor that comes from doing something that almost
feels like a play. And yeah, yeah, you're the cameras
are always rolling and you're always on and and I
got to work on a project earlier this year that
I'm so excited about for it to come out, where
it was challenging in the ways that I'm sure it

(01:16:10):
was for for all those folk on adolescents and being like, ohh,
I don't know if I can rise a whole I've
never had to do that before.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I know if I could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
But getting to the other end of that, it just
feels so fantastic. It's a different bussles this, yeah, working
with the crew, and I'm sure it's got to be
the same for those folk o red adolescents.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a whole different challenge and
I feel like, you know, I think there's a comforting
piece to it where you know that like actors have
done this, so it's like if they've done it, I
could do it right, Like there's theater actors who do
it all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
So I like about Shakespeare, right, you know, it's like
there's four hundred thousand people who have been in the
line to you know, play Hamlet, and I'm just at
the front of them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
You just at the front now, and that's awesome. But
there's this like there's a there's a great moment where
like even it was like the camera will come out
of the house, follow someone into a car and then
they will have a whole thing of dialogue all the
way to a whole separate location and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Like, that's children right there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
That timing is crazy, it's crazy. But the the Owen Cooper,
I believe his name is, he just won an Emmy.
I think he's like like thirteen or fourteen or something
like that. Youngest Emmy winner in history. Frick bro.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
But Miguel do Is, I mean he has an All
Valley Championship, he has an.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
All Valley I said, Bro, all Valley you got you
got a World Championship. Bro, Like like you said, he's
got a you got the Valley Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
That's crazy, it's crazy. The youngest male and he has that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Third the third episode is like his episode, like it's
it all takes place. I don't want to call it
an interrogation, but he's talking to like like an investigator,
social worker, and it's just between those two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
I've definitely seen clips for that where he's like, I
didn't do it, Bubba.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah man, he do crazy good, yeah, crazy good. And
I remember again what you're saying about like young performances.
I remember when Max Landis Max Landis, I just had
to say that. But back before fuck Max Landis, he
was on this show. I used to watch call the
movie Fights and love movie Fights. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Dude, Yo, you're unlocking a memory for me right now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Bro, I'm trying to bring it back. I'm not gonna
lie trying to bring something like that. What a great series,
such a great series, great debates, great moments. I think
about him all the time. And one of my favorite
moments ever was like Max Landis, who I believe, just
came out for Chronicle during that time and he they
he was asked to pitch before Batman v. Superman came
out a Batman v. Superman like movie, and it was

(01:18:46):
a great pitch. But what was this what was he
talking about? He was pitching a TV show that had
to do with a teacher teaching a class, and he
had this philosophy of teaching kids not like they were kids,
but treating them as if they were adults. And that
resulted in these kids who are very very smart and
pick up on things really really fast, actually being very smart,

(01:19:10):
and like it becomes like this game of throne staying
in the classroom, or like the children are like manipulating
each other to get what they want, all these type
of things. And there's this one and I was Bro,
it's the most animated. I said that would be a
great animate for sure, and I think he said as
much when he said, like, in order to pull this off,
you're gonna have to have like ten ten year old
Marlon Brando's or something like that. But now we got one.

(01:19:31):
Now we got one, we got one. Can we just
fill this out and put the ball in the show
right now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Well, we also have that Ai girl, right, she fucked
that a chilly She can play all thirteen of these No,
oh my god, she could do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
She could do anything. Fucking I really made a video
just like recently saying like if I catch y'all watching
a movie with Tilly fucking Girlwood.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
You might not even know that's the scary part, Like
you might get.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Fuck, I was so close that would fuck me up.
I'm a scab.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
I'm a scab.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Like like, did you ever watch Tropic Thunder? Remember did
you get that save surprise at the end where you
found out that Les Grossman was top? What? Bro? Like,
I remember going and I feel like that's gonna be
Tilly Norwood and like you get to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
The credits, oh my god, that was Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
She flips off the camera like right after just like
got you. He thought you were supporting the arts, but
ship I forgot what we were on anyway. Yeah, that
that fucking kid man Owen Cooper, Like his performance is
like great. You ever watch uh the kid who plays
Elliott and Et his audition tape? No, Bro, when you're

(01:20:55):
done with this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Isn't that kid like three or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
In that movie like five or five? How old was he?
Because I think when he finished the movie he was
like twelve or he was pretty young, like he was
really he was even younger in the audition. But this kid,
like in the audition tape, it makes you go, yeah,

(01:21:18):
give him the award now, Oh that's so crazy. And
it's like it's the scene where like he's he's auditioning
for the scene where I guess like the the government
men are interrogating him about eating and he's saying like
you can't take him away, and you see like the
tears streaming down his face. But it's like one of
those like controlled like actor tiers where you're just like

(01:21:39):
you lock this kid up. It was like you can say,
like watching that, you were just like there was no
other choice. Wow, there was no other choice.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
It was ten years old, ten years old, so when
he did the audition tape, he was probably eight or nine,
eight or nine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Bossed up on all those eight year old bro like
you can tell they they came in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
My mom said I should do this because like this,
this and that. He said, nah Na, this role, this
is this is wine. It's so bro. I just I'm
the same way as you, man. Whenever I see a
young performance, like I believe the youngest actor, the youngest
actor to win an oscar, I want to still it's either.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
He said the Southern Wild No, no, she.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Was nominated, she was not. She didn't win. And I
remember that her name is a what god, I want
to fuck with? Butcher this name? I know her last
name is Wallace and it starts with a Q. So
I'm not even gonna try and butcher it. But if
I read it, I'll be able to like say it.
But uh yeah, she she did it, and then she
followed it up with Annie and then I haven't seen
her since, which is kind of sad, but uh who

(01:22:36):
the youngest one was taintable O'Neil for the longest time
for Paper Boom, and I think she was like I
want to say she was like ten or eleven, and
then Anna Pack win one for I keep wanting to
say the penis, but it's not the penis. The penis
is the one with Adrian Brody. I'm gonna yea, I'm

(01:22:56):
gonna get it. But uh Anna paquin One at nine
years old? Whoa nine? Now? I remember seeing the clips
of her holding the Oscar. She's a little girl just.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Like Oscar is half her size.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Bro, My daughter is eight.

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
Yeah, so she was Anna paq when was eleven and
she won for the piano.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
The piano. It was the piano, okay, not the pi
who yes, eleven, my daughter's eight. Yeah, but you got
three years to win on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
You guys like the yeah, the the Serena Dad, Like
we're out here in the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Rain, because if you want to do that, you gotta
like rain there. You know. I watched the Richard Richard
Williams movie, like, yeah, Ray making a mistake, but you
make it, so we go we go Pack, like why
are we doing this up? This Grandpa? We had clear
all the show Man. He was a really good friend

(01:23:51):
of like, you know, just us in general, but of
the show and likes cool. It's it's really cool. I
like to funk with him sometimes. He because you know,
obviously like Holes is like his big thing. He's been
like a paid actor working out for a long time.
But I remember I was hosting at an anime expo okay,
and I had like this crowd in front of me,
and they like Cleo came up to say what's up,
and nobody knew he was there yet. He was trying

(01:24:12):
to be like low key about it, and I was
on the microphone and I was like, oh my god, guys,
we got a celebrity in the building. And he's like no, no, no,
no no. I was like, you guys know him from
Roll Bounce and.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
To get the one guy in the back, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Like roll the one Roll Bounce. I was the one guy.
I was the one guy, just like Robouts. Some people
were like, oh, I haven't heard of that in a while,
but like like obviously I add from Holes and then
that's what everybody kind of turned around. I was like,
oh shit, and they see him and you know that
he's a really cool cat bro like to see him
come up like it is like zero and like even

(01:24:46):
before that, I've been rocking with him since like Friday
after Next where he was like a little kid riding
like the uncle whatnot. But like to see him like
kind of come up and like, you know, he's still
be acting here and there, but he also is like
kind of like carved out a nice place for himself
in the world where he's doing like a lot of
like uh, people like him for him, people like him
exactly like he know and like you know, he's he's

(01:25:10):
lived such an interesting life. He was like, Bro, I
used to open for bow Wow, like because he was
a music artist too. So I'm like, bro like the
and like to see where he's at now. I'm just
kind of like I'm so proud of that dude, like
shout out to you, Cleio. Bro, Like that's my guy.
Like he's he's one of the biggest video game heads
that I know as well. Like the dude he hunts
down the collectibles, like he'll be like, oh, I found
out that the original Xbox has a et skin controller.

(01:25:34):
I'm gonna go hunt it down and find it. And
he gets it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I'm like, well, Cleo, I got the R two D
two C three po Xbox. Hey, if you want it,
it's I'm not having used it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
I was about to facetop of right now, he probably does,
but he'll probably hear this and be like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
No, actually, my dad probably won't want to give it up. Actually, sorry,
I take it back, Cleo.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Then Dad stop gapping it. Well, I got one last question, man. Okay,
obviously I've said I've said it already, but the name
of the episode is get wrecked. Yes, so I'm doing
I want to do this new thing called the Reckless Okay, right,
it's a list of recommendations of movies that you feel
like people should like watch. Okay, we're no questions. Just watch.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
To me, like three okay, I would say you got
to flex that. You know, you gotta read some subtitles sometimes.
Oh yeah, I don't have a and uh. There's two
movies that kind of come to mind. One of them
is called The Intouchables, say French movie. Yeah, yes, it's

(01:26:44):
like one of my ever since I watched it. I
think it perfectly encapsulates love in an unexpected way of
this ally ship between this caretaker and his patient employee. Bosh,

(01:27:07):
it it is so beautiful. It's every time almar Ce smiles,
you just like, have this. It's so infectious. He he
radiates on the screen, and his dynamic with his bosses
is really really great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Remember the Untouchables, not the Untouchables with Kevin Hart and
Brian Kranston.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Right right, right, not that one. I watched the first
five minutes of that one. I love both of those people,
but it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Sometimes you just can't beat the original. When we talk
about remakes and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
A good bit of the time. Another kind of brain
altering chemistry movie was Met in Black.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Yeah, this is if maybe you have seen this movie
more than any other movie. It's just great innovation and
like that sci fi ability to create a world on
film is so cool that it's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
One of the best like duos and cinematic in my opinion,
great duo would expect it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
There's so many quotables like I love Will Smith, like
I make this. There's so many like I just remember
being a kid, like yep, this is the coolest, or
like why did you shoot that? Why did you shoot
that girl? And he's like explaining this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
This guy is sneez he's not scrowling, and the little
girl like those books are way too advanced for her.
And I was like, and that's why I did it. Sir,
and if you used off the back about it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
It's such a legendary movie.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
And I personally like a quote from that movie. Sorry
to cut you off, but I have to say it
is it worth it? Yeah, it's worth it? Wait, which
part is enough? It's like when he's recruiting him to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Go, oh, yes, he's sitting on the bench.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
He's sitting on the bench. He's walking away, and he
goes like, is it worth it, like losing all this,
Like is it worth like losing like, you know, my connections, everything,
my identity. And he goes like, oh, yeah, it's worth
it if it's strong enough.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Yeah, And he just keeps going, and I'm like, I
like that as that's that's applicable to anything. It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
It's a fantastic ten out of ten movie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Plus the music is great too, so it's really great.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
And then the last movie is this movie called Mad
Bills to Pay. Okay, you actually can't watch it right now,
ha ha ha, but it should be coming out in
the next few weeks months depending on when this comes out.
This movie I saw at Sun Dance and really so

(01:29:53):
different than anything I've seen before, a much quieter story,
about this kid from New York who is navigating adulthood
and ends up getting a girl pregnant, and each scene,
by nature it's an indie movie just because of their budget.
Each scene is a painting in that it's on a

(01:30:16):
tripod and it doesn't move at all. You're witnessing the
whole movie in one shot at a time, and it
just allows the story and the actors to totally It
feels like you're a fly on the wall in rooms
that you never get to be a part of. And
the acting is phenomenal, but just the story, I feel like,

(01:30:38):
is one that I've never seen told before, and for
that reason, I just am such a big fan of it.
It's funny but also really serious and like it's also
it seems like something that like, yo, I could totally
see this happening to any of us and get to
see someone in that vulnerable state. Really enjoyed the movie,

(01:31:01):
and I hope when it gets to come out in
big theaters. I think they just got acquired, so I'm hoping.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
That, Yeah, yeah, that sounds a lot like that movie
with a Tom Hanks that came out called here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Okay, yeah, Robert in the Living or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
It's like it's like one spot and yeah, like it
starts from the dawn of time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
This one is in one spot. It's like literally like
one you're looking at one angle the whole time, like
it's a house and then it's something else, right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
But I like I like this one though, where you
said because it's a different location.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Yeah, just like onepos wherever the story needs to go.
But I like they don't have time to get multiple
angles and get close up, so they're just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Like yeah, I like that in a sense of like
because like I feel like here is it's it's raw.
It's more like a theater, right, Like as we talked
about where is this one that you're describing, it's more
of like like what's that thing that you do with
like you click it and then like it has a
different slide too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
It's like a slideshow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
It's like a slide show. And I like that. It's
like you're in a new location and you're just trying
to figure out like what's happening in the story at
this moment in time. But the most important thing is
like what does this place mean to these people? And
like how does it inform?

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Like how is it serving the story?

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
How is this serving the story? That sounds very interesting?
And what's it called. It's called Mad Bills to Pay,
Mad Bills to Pay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I'm on it, Like that's a really that's a really
fun one. But yeah, I could go on and on.
There's tons of movies. But yeah, those are those are great?

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Three sure, all right for my reck list And you've
probably have seen these things, but like, these are movies
that are like really like important to me, like like
I have Uh singh Street is a big one, okay
for me. I believe you can watch that one on
Netflix right now? Is that No, that's sing sing Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Is that the one with the singing pig that sing?

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
I didn't realize how many movies have like this like
sing like kind of like thing going on in it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Okay, sorry, what is this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
We're equipping that? Sing Street? Is this movie out of
h I want to say it's out of Dublin, Ireland.
I want to say it's Ireland. Oh yeah, check check
for me on that. But it's about this kid. It's
a coming of age movie and it's like a pseudo musical,
not really because music is a character. It's a character

(01:33:14):
in the story right, because it's about this kid who's
going who's like, you know, his parents are going through
a divorce, so they put him into like this new
like Catholic school, and you know, he sees this girl
across the street. He's only made one friend at this point.
He sees this like really like cute girl across the street,
walks over to it with all the irrational confidence in
the world, chats her up a little bit, and just

(01:33:35):
on a whim, says, oh, you know, I have a band,
and she goes, oh, you have a band? He says, yeah,
should come see us play?

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Yo? He's busted out the Irish accidently, why did you
wait till our two to do this?

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Welcome to get right. That's when it gets worse. I
should what did you say to me? Mad? But uh yeah,
So he basically fabricates this band to oppress this girl.
But however, he goes to his friend and says, we
need to make a band, like stat yeah, And so
he collects a bunch of like kids that he doesn't know.

(01:34:12):
They create a band. But he slowly falls in love
with making music, like he falls in love with actually
being an artist. And so you see the evolution of
him being a lonely kid who literally has this music,
this cute girl across the street, and he just like
goes from making crap music to like really really good music.
And so it's it's really cool because you get to
see someone falling in love with something for the very

(01:34:36):
first time and like how their environment like influences them,
like where he pulls the inspiration from. There's this one
song and I will die on this hill every day
of the week. It's called driving, like you stole it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
You don't have to. It's okay, that's how.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
That's how I don't have to, but I want to,
like right, that's how serious?

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
And it's a song that should have won Best Original
Song at the Oscars. Who should have? But I think
it was like produced by the Weinstein Company at the
time and they were going through like their Fu Weinstein
and and they just did not put anything behind it,
no awards campaign behind it. But that song is so

(01:35:17):
damn good. It's like eighties inspired, Like there's a kind
of like a music video moment where he imagines that
he's in like a back to the future type like
digging it, and all the songs are great one song
called Going Up. It's like amazing, but Driver like you
stole it. Like I would even say that even before
you watch the movie, Like, listen to the song in
the car. It sounds like it sounds like a beautiful

(01:35:38):
road trip. It's incredible. But yeah, Stey Street is like
a great one. Chronicle like that one is directed by
Josh Frank has Michael B. Jordan. Oh wait, is that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
The found footage powers? Yes, this is one of my homies'
favorite movies. A well, we watched this during Blue Beetle.
I remember, Oh really he was living with me and
I remember he was like, Yo, let's do this one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
That's one. It's a great one. It's a great one.
Anybody who like people say like Jordan, like like, yeah,
Michael be Jordan, this is his breakout to me?

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Really, Oh what are they saying about Michael B.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Jordan's Well, Like I've talked to some people that will
be like, oh, Michael B. Jordan just plays the same
character and everything he's in. And my girlfriend doesn't like
Michael She well she likes him, Okay, she doesn't get
the hype. Okay, she doesn't get the hype. And I'm
always constantly defended Michael Jordan. I'm like, did you see
fruit Bill? Did you see Sinners? Did you see the Wire?

(01:36:31):
Like I've always like and I would not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Parent had too. He was in the very first show
that I was ever really yeah, he was. He was
the love interest to one of the daughters on that show.
And I mean even then, it was like, well, Michael
Jordan's Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
I feel like anybody in there right mind doesn't have
anything bad to say about Michael B.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Jordan, but except that one interviewer, except that on his
one friend. Yes, in the day, like the coall right,
that's just the students lived such a life. But still

(01:37:12):
is like there on the carpet, like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
I would have remembered. That would be so me too.
I would have remembered and like I'm not gonna like
blow your spot up. I'm not gonna blow you up
like that, but just to be like, hey, I'm corny,
that's just so funny. I'm like, bro, you're Micha would
be Geordan like, but you know, I'm with it. I'm
with that level of like petty. Yeah, he's he was

(01:37:36):
like because like if I would have if I would
have saw her on the carpet because she looked like
she was at the end of the carpet you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Could easily just walk right past.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
And which would have said, which would have said? He said,
I'm a stop And you know he saw her as
soon as he got there, he was like, this is
the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
He's looking at the like agenda for the day.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
It's game. Thank you so much for coming through. Appreciate
you for having me a great conversation, Bro, I could
talk to you for hours.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Thanks. I had so much fun. It's I really appreciate
you and all that you do, and you've always been
so kind. I can't wait to see you the next thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Bro. Oh of course, man, we'll do this again some time. Yeah,
let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Please once we get back from town. Let's have you
on the podcast too. You guys, please come.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
We plug the podcast real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
Manlug my co host who actually was on an episode
of get Wrecked a few months back, Jacob Scott, Thomas
bertrand uh is my better half on our podcast Lone Lobos.
So check it out anywhere you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
And that's it, bro, all right, many, thank you so
much for joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Man, Thank you right, thank you.

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