StoneyThaGreat Recs The Pod

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Wake up? Did you time to go to work? All right?
Can we talk about we.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Go back in it and get it that?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, wake up, back get it that, get at that goal.
With everyone's saying that up next, it's not my father.
The vocals are goals that making that hit. It's so
fucky that my nighbors a movie the way then that
role they say in them people. Baby, you know I'm
making everybody upset because we the best.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
We getting breast and I know.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
We donning get bread, gunning get bread, gonna get breath,
cunning get bread, sink donning get breadth get bread.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's more on? Everybody? It's your boy, Juju Green aka
straw Hat Goofy.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
You're a movie guy, hopefully, and I'm sitting here with
boys Stony the great Man. This has been a long
time coming and we're finally on the pod together.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
How we feeling, bro?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
I feel sensational, my guy. When I started this whole
TikTok social media creating content thing in January first January
fifth of twenty twenty two was my first video, and
by that point you were already like doing Batman screening hostings.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
You know what I'm saying. I remember that and.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Hosting the OSCAR So I always like kind of watched
you and a few other creators, like man, I got
to get where they're at, you know what I'm saying,
and just going through the process of making these videos
and getting these followers up. Bro, I have no clue
how this happened, you feel me, I have no I
say all of that.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
To say this. Just post the video. Ye, just post
the video. Bro. You never know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
And no, Bro, you ain't the only one though, Like
you this man called me famous like a second ago
famous friend. Stop it, Like I still don't feel that
at all, bro, Like I just kind of make my
I told somebody I said this at Halloween Horn Nights
when somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Was talking to me. I said, I post my videos,
I go home and take care of my daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
And I'm chilling right like nothing about I'm not gonna
say nothing about my life feels like famous, you know
what I'm saying, Like because I've done like a lot
of things, like I've traveled the world at this point,
like you know, as a kid from who ain't never
been on the plane until four years ago, Like being
able to see new places and stuff like that. It's
still wild to me, right and so like, I never
take none of that for granted. I never take people

(02:09):
recognizing me and stuff like that for granted. But at
the end of the day, bro, like, I feel that
those moments are given to me, and I'm grateful for it, right, Like,
that doesn't happen without like you know, people watching, people engaging,
and you know studios and you know, the powers that
be invited me to places, right And so that's why
I never try to get too high on it, and
I never try to be too low on it. I'm

(02:30):
just kind of like right here. But the word like famous,
like it just it just I don't want to say
it irks me. It just it gives me like a
weird hit.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I get it a little.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I'm like, not really, I don't even like call them
people fans, Like, I don't really you know, call them fans.
I just say, like people who support you know what
I'm saying. So I just, uh, you know, I'm just
I'm happy to be here, same as you. Like, I
don't know how this happened. Like, I feel like a
lot of where I'm at is just I should probably
do this post video. I should probably do this the podcast.

(03:01):
I should probably do this talk to Ryan Coogler, just
to let him know how I feel. You know what
I'm saying, like connecting with people.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
I think what it is is like how it happens,
like you know, versus like when you, you know, back in
the day, like you're a singer or a rapper. You know,
you go to like talent shows and you perform and
then the studio execs sees you or they hear your
demo tape bring you on, and it's that kind of thing.
But like when you get to a point where you
can walk a red carpet based off your own channel

(03:29):
and avenue, like I did all the work to get
to this point and the only thing I did was
respond to an email invite.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
They said, hey, come.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Out, and how people be hitting you up? Like how
do I get invited? How did you get invited?

Speaker 6 (03:41):
It's like it's like I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I'm just the video and they and they emailed me
bro I really cannot tell. Yeah, cannot tell you because
the thing is like and this is not to like,
you know, talk down on other on other creators, but
now everybody gets the email.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
That's just as simple as that. It's just as simple
as that, right, Like I remember this just happened, right,
because now I've gotten to the point where everyone just
expects me to be at every red carpet that exists,
which number one can be everywhere once right, got to
pick and choose those things. Obviously there's ones that I
want to be at, right, Like you know, but I
never expect or nor feel entitled to be at those places.

(04:23):
But at the end of the day, like I don't
like have a bunch of people on speed out that's
kind of like, yo, get me into this red carpet,
Like it's me Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
It don't work like that.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
And I feel like people who watch us do what
we do, they want the results of what we do.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
But what we do is we put.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
In the work and then things come to us as
a result of the work that we put in. Right,
we put it out, we wait and then things come
in that way. And I think people don't understand that.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
I tell it to people.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Basically, it's like you look at it the way animals
hunt food. Right, everybody thinks or tigers and lions, they
think we go out just chase and actuality.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
We're spiders.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
We just lay the web and we sit back and
the food gets caught, and then when the food gets caught,
then we go get it. But you know, that's that's
basically what we do. We just lay that web about
and that web is our work. That that web is
our our knowledge of these films and these shows and
these games, and we just you put it out there, yeah,
you know, and we just sit back and if the

(05:29):
studio sees that web and they like it, they might
fly in and get caught.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
What's the biggest thing you've got in your web?

Speaker 6 (05:37):
The biggest thing?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Like you were like, oh shit, I didn't think I
was hauling bringing in this. I didn't think I catched it.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, I was just gonna say that, Yeah, yeah, it
was probably when I did that Hulu panel at the
TikTok headquarters. It's cool being recognized by studios and third
parties that work with the studios. It's different when you
get recognized by the platform that you create. I'm sitting
here in the the HQ.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
It takes our headquarters.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
I'm just like wow, Like TikTok invited me here to
like represent them on a panel in front of like
a room full of Hulu executives.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
And the funniest thing was and I think this.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Moment made me realize that you can all as long
as if you just be yourself, people will love it
if you're likable. And they played some of our content.
It was me, young lady named Gabby, and young lady
named Sidney. All three of us people are colored, so
that was cool. Okay, they played some of our videos

(06:46):
for the Hulu team. And one thing I've been doing
lately is I've actually been kind of cutting back on
like the profanity in my videos.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
You know, I you know, I get that. I just
try to.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Notice that too. It's like back on the US and
he'll drop an F bomb. I'm like, whoa, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
So that's coming together, man.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
So and it the video that they the video they
chose to play was a video a lot a lot, dude.
It was a video called pick three to Protect You,
to rest trying to kill you, the Jurassic Park videos.
It was like all the different big bag dinosaurs. I
was in that video, Customer that damn sailor in front

(07:25):
of these and it's like and it's ringing.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Through the whole studio room and I'm just like white people.
It was everyone was white except us.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
I was like, oh, this is bad, and they were
just but they were dying, laughing and like engaged with
the video and like everything I said, they just latched
on to me. And it's like, Wow, it just showed
me that sometimes your talent it's just that you're a
fucking dope ass person and that's really and that's really

(08:00):
what it is. Like sometimes you may just be that
dope that you can build a career off being.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Dope, and you know what, man, And that's the crazy
thing too, is like there are people who will start
hating on you because they feel like they could do
do what you do. And I feel like this is
like one of the few jobs where anybody can do it.
But at the same time, it's like oxymoron because like
everyone can do it, but also everyone can't because you
gotta be dope, you gotta be personabal, you gotta be charismatic,
you gotta be comfortable, right, And I see so many

(08:29):
people who, like, you know, put turn on the camera,
they start talking about their favorite thing, but they're so
stiff you can tell they're trying to be something that
they're not. Actually, you got it exactly right, because the
people I can spot from a mile away like you're
not being authentic. And when people ask me like, oh,
any tips that you can give, I'm like, bro, just

(08:49):
be yourself. Like I know, when you talk to the
homies outside of the movie theater, this ain't how you
sound right and you like you. I talk to you, Bro,
you be cussing like a motherfucker like you like you
and you it is. It's the same way when you're
on your platform, and so they got to be in.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
You, not on you. You know what I'm saying, And like,
I just I gotta say.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
When I first saw your content, bro, I think you know,
the first time I actually kind of like perceived you.
I think he was in a live stream and I
saw your name for the first time and I didn't
know if it said it's Tony or Stony, and I
was like, it's Tony Stony, and then I said it's Stony.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Stony's cool, and I was like, okay, Stony, And so I.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Would interact with you and the lives and everything, and
then I finally saw one of your videos and I said,
oh shit.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's stony and like stony cool, like you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
I'm like instant follow loving movies, loving the whrror, and
I'm just like this guy.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
And I knew that this guy right here.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I was like this guy, I bet you he's the
same way like if I see him in person. And
sure enough we see each other in person. I said,
that's why like me and you connect like that, right,
Like we may be like from different spots, but you
could tell we have like the same upbringing and we
have like the same like worldview.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Right. And we talked about this like a little bit
before the cameras turned on. Is that.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Whenever we're in spaces, it's automatically uncomfortable, like we just
kind of feel like out of place. And you live
in like a you live in Atlanta, it's like a
Hollywood type place, but not necessarily since black Hollywood. Right Like,
I grew up in LA and everyone on the outside
sees La it's all Hollywood. I grew up in Compton,
and Hollywood just always seemed far away.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
But yeah, man, like I did not care about what
I wore at all.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Man, So like, even when I started this, I was,
you know, same old shit, like wearing whatever the fuck
I wanted. And then I started going to like red
carpets and started going to events, and now I was like, fuck,
I got to start to steping my game up, get
more presentable.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I gotta tell you, I've noticed the style evolution because
we've been we've been friends with a Bawa two three.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Years, three years, about three years.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, and I've noticed, man, I noticed it.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Hey, listen, I was in Korea. I said, let me
get some Korean threads real quick.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
So like, and I'm not trying to like I don't
still break the bank on shit, Like if I buy
something that's like a hefty price, I'm wearing that shit
to multiple things I'm not gonna wear. I'm not a
one time wear a type of guy. So I stole mitchmatch.
I'll do that whole thing. And I feel like that's
important to me now, you know, because it builds up
my confidence.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I'm on camera all the time, like, don't get me wrong,
I wake up, don't do my hair, I'll make a
video or whatever. And a tank top like it is
what it is, but like, bro, sometimes you just got
to show who you are, like like from a style perspective, like.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Like my muscle tongement coming up, you gonna see.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
But I just also miss bro when I play ball.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Man, when I was playing ball, like I was in shape,
like and and I never want to be that guy
that like just lives in the past of like that
ship like it was a big time like you know,
like I was a basketball player before all of this,
and so I still have that mentality and everything that
I do, and so you know, I look at myself
now and I'm like, shit, man, my shit used to be,
especially when I run into people from like the past

(11:58):
and they say like, yo, man, you blowing up, but
like you looking like a little thing, my guy, like
you know. But luckily it's gotten to the point where
they'll see me and be like, okay, like you look
more or less the same, Like you met my homie Ryan,
like you know, Rock and Riance is like ninth grade bro,
and so like he keeps compliment me, and I'm like
that's the only compliment. Well him and my girl. I'm like,
these are the compliments that I care about because these

(12:19):
are the people who like have seen me in all forms,
you know what I'm saying. So, but also not to
like jump on a bunch of different tangents, bro, But
like we were talking about earlier, how making friends in
this space shit's tough, bro. This shit is like tough
because it's so I find it harder and harder to
find people who are like genuinely want to be your friend,

(12:41):
and not just be your friend, but people who genuinely
care about you and you're well being. And like I've
lost like I've gained friends and lost fans quicker than
I've ever done in my life. Right, Like, I've never
had this issue when I was like, you know, whenever
I worked at Disney, whenever I worked in advertising, whenever
I was going to school, like my day one a ones,
my Ryan shout out to Mike and Ryan, like, you know, never.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Have none of these issues.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Then you get to people who make content for a living,
and they always hearing shit about you, and then they're
always asking something from you, and if you can't give it,
they'll just cut you off, right, And that's been like
the biggest thing that's like I've been like struggling with.
So I'm glad that you and I connected the way
that we do, because it's hard to like every time

(13:25):
I meet somebody, like I'm friendly and everything, like I
could be friendly with anybody, but I'm constantly gauging.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right, like what do you want? What do you need?

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Like you know, what type of friendship is this going
to be? What type of relation I don't even say
friendship anymore? Like what type of relationship this is gonna be?

Speaker 6 (13:40):
With me?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Like like you, I still got my same day one
homies from like my homeboy Mikey. Shout out to my
boy Mikey. Mikey Chapman met him when I was nine
years old. Bro in the year two thousand. Me and
that man still best friends. My homeboy Patrick shout out
to my boy Pat met him the first day of
fifth grade, Nah, two thousand and one. Me and that
that's he dropped me off to the airport every time

(14:02):
I got to come out here every two weeks. He's like,
my my my chauffeur. I'd be like, hey, bro, I
gotta go to LA. He'd be like with Tom, Bro,
you know what I'm saying. And you know they always
been there, and you know they were and we didn't
even go to college together, Like we.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Went I went here, he went there, he went there.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
But we still stayed y'all still tight.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
And it's funny because when I started doing this, I
felt like it kind of isolated me a little bit
because I'm the only person from like when you go
because I went to a HBCU. You know, I went
to through Coming University in the Natona Beach, And when
you go to an HBCU, it's such a tight knit

(14:40):
like community that even when y'all graduate, that's steal your social.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
Circle, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
And I was like the only movie buff out of
the whole damn school. Like I didn't meet nobody else,
Like I'll never forget when the when the frid the
Nightmare on M Street remake in twenty ten, coming out.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I was the only one talking about that.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
It seemed like I was the only one who wanted
to go. Like I was like, hey, y'all, I said, hey,
we should.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Go see a nightmare industry. That was like for what,
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
For what what do you mean?

Speaker 6 (15:09):
For what?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know? The last time we got a nightmare movie?

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Right, I'm like, bro, the last one wasn't like, and
then after that it was two thousand and three Freddie
versus Jason.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
What do you mean right?

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Y'all don't care?

Speaker 5 (15:22):
That's wild And I always consider myself what I like
to call a hood nerd. Yeah, yeah, you too hood
for the nerds, but you're too nerdy for the hood
like I don't. It's like when you get around like
hood hood folks, you look like them, you dress like them,
you talk like them, sound like them, you look like them.

(15:47):
But when they get to going, you're like, man, I
don't know what y'all need to.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Be telling me about.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
But then you get with like the nerds of the school,
it's like zero swag, zero bitches, zero, Like your hairline
don't exist, my dude, Like like where like you've been
wearing the same dragon ball Z button up for the
past week.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Of course the girls look at you crazy.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
You run around with the Nato run bro, Stop blaming
these girls for why they don't like it.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
It ain't the nerves that people, right, bro, power have
you ever heard of a lineup? You feel me?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
And they nappy headed too with the lineup, BDB.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
It's like if you approach a girl with some swag, bro,
she might like.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
The fact that you collect pokemonka, the fact she's like something,
you know what I'm saying. So I was always stuck
in that middle, and it was always weird as hell.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
It's like, don't I don't relate to nobody. I can't.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
My family still hood as fuck bro, like still living
project and I still live a Compton bro like like
you know, Compton Long Beach. Like they're all over and
they proud of me, and I love them like we
love each other. It's always all love every time I talk.
But they my my aunt.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
She called me Denzel.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
She'd been called because like cause like I started like
acting in uh in high school.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I do a couple of plays.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
I used to help out with the plays and whatnot,
And so she came to one of the shows and
ever since then she was like, Denzel, you little Denzel Washington,
and that's what you is. And so now she sees
all this. She watches all my stuff, but she don't
take a movie recommendation from me, right Like she don't
like I'll be talking.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
To her like, hey, yeah, this movie coming out, this
movie coming out.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
She's like, I ain't heard of that ship at all,
Like you know, she like, shit, don't she like in
her seventies or something like that, and she just the
whole family just be like, Okay, well we'll see if
we'll check it out.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
They ain't checking that shit out. They watch't Tyler Perry.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
And like I was just about to say, but they
know about the media movie.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
They do know about the media movie.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
When it talks out, We're gonna say.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Plays bore listen whenever whenever a new Tyler Perran movie
will come out. I was the only one in the
family that was like, y'all can't be watching this ship.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
We gotta do better.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
We have to we can't do this, we gotta do that.
Like I remember I told my aunt. I was like, listen, Nate,
stop me, stop me. When you can name the movie
Tyler Perry movie. There's a woman, probably a light skinned woman.
She got a man, right, she got a rich man.
At some point, the rich man abuses her, kicks her
out the house, and then she runs into a dark
skin no sorry, dark skinned man ball headed, kicks her

(18:23):
out the house.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Abuses her.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
She leaves, finds a light skin man does manual labor.
He might drive a bus. He might fix your kid's
crib or some shit like that. And then she wonders
if she should get with him, but she can't because
she's used to the rich man. She got an evil
mom that wants her to marry for the money. Media
shows up somehow, she's apparently everybody's untie or grandma or whatever,

(18:46):
gives her some really bad advice. They go to church,
she realizes she needs the manual labor light skin man.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And everything is help. You know which movie is that?
Oh wait, that's all of them except for Daddy's Little Girls,
where they switched it and Andris Elba was the guy
who had the bad baby Baba.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
You see what I'm saying, bad dark skinned baby mama.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
The bad dark skinned baby mama.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Guess he had the evil brown skinned drug dealer boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Come on.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then the only thing they switched up a little
bit was Gabrielle Union was the girl, but she was
having her hesitancies like oh well, he.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Got They kind of split the storyline with family reunion.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
The light skinned girl.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Was with uh oh yeah, I forgot bro name. Sorry,
she was with him. He was whooping her ass. Then
the sister who was a single mom.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's every Tyler Perry movie.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Met the bus, the bus driver dude, Yeah, the bus
driver dude who was in like, uh, he's in one
of like the cop shows whatever.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
And then like he took the kids for ice cream
and like he came back and she was like.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
My kids, like.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Just an ice cream. He just took him for a
double scoop.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
You're a I love that we talked about the movies,
but now we're talking about the movies.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Each movie.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Bro, it's all of them, right, It's all them, And
like like I keep I keep listening, shout out to
Tyler Perry for what he's done for the for like
the code showed us like what we can do. It's
just he is the prime example of what did you sacrifice?

(20:26):
Like like what did it take? Everything? Like it's like
I'm sorry, I got to like hold some stuff in,
some stuff in.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
But I keep hoping that he's going to put out
something that I'm like, yes, yes, So I watched his
latest one. Actually he had two movies come out this year.
I think it was the uh it was a school
one homecoming. I saw Homecoming, and then I saw he
had the one with the straw. Yeah, straw it was.
It was sorry I saw Homecoming out of Hate Straw

(20:58):
was the one with Trogi p Henson.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
What was the one with the with the black women,
the space, the pilots, the.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Pilots, Kart Washington. Yes, yes, yes, six triple eight six
triple Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
So it's like he'll do something like that and prove
that he can.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Wait, did he direct it? Though?

Speaker 6 (21:18):
He did? Look, I think it produced it. He produced it.
I think he produced it.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, listen, it's the thing.
I'm like, maybe as a producer, like, as a producer, fu, yeah, bro,
like you should do your thing.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
But as a writer director, I know, people say, right
what you know? I think we're done knowing about what
you know.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Tyler Perry is going. It's gonna be a very random comparison.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
But just he directed, he directed, actually he directed. Yes,
okayre there we go. We get so then I can
bring it. He directed it, then that means that he
can he can.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, Okay, okay, I know who Tyler Perry is, and
I know you were about to make a comparison.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
He's Wayne, He's Lil Wayne. Okay, Swayne, have a movie comparison.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Lil Wayne if he really wanted.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
To make a beautiful hip hop album full of complex lyricism,
metaphors that we've never heard of, subject matter that's out
of this world. But if you notice, Lil Wayne been
in the game for all these years, and every single
time he raps, he still says the same shit. Right,
It's a formula that works right, and they don't want

(22:34):
to deviate from that formula because deviating from that formula
means taking a risk, and taking the risk means I
might not make as much money as I normally could.
So Tyler Perry instead of taking those risks all the time.
Because there's there's effort that goes into like six Triple
eight movies, but there ain't no effort in Beauty in
Black diarald a Mad Black Woman. There's no there's no

(22:55):
thought process behind that. This man said he doesn't have
a writer's room. He just writes it hisself.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Well, if you could tell he took a day too,
like he was right in the day and like you
could tell, like you could totally tell. Destination Wedding. That
was where the two straw Destination Wedding came out this year.
I watched both of them.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Straw a little bit better. I'm gonna give it that better.
But that that shit.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
So where do you have Timer Redold Like like he's
like fucking Anthony Hamilton, Anthony Hamilton. It's not like Anthony Hamilton,
Alexander Hamilton. That's a whole different thing. You could never
be Anthony Hamilton, Tyler Perry. But yeah, so Straw Destination
wedding and then just out of hate because I was like,
how far does this rabbit hole of like not giving

(23:36):
a shit go? He did the Homecoming, and that story
featured a guy who comes home to his family and
he plays with the idea that maybe he and his
friend that he's coming home with is gay, and so
they get there, he comes out as gay, and they're like, honey,
we do that.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
We love you for who you are, Okay. But it
turns out the homie that he came back with it's
not gay. He fucking his mom. He's fucking his mom,
and and they basically be like, hey, you can fuck
my mom, bro, just treat it right, okay, Okay, Tyler Perry.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
That sounds like that that that that one that the
Funeral Tyler Perry movie where the freaking like the son Like, okay,
so one of the sons, the brothers was cheating. Well okay,
so one of the brothers, his fiance was cheating on
him with his brother, right, and the dad was cheating

(24:30):
on the mama with another woman. And here's the crazy part.
The dad was cheating on the mom at a hotel,
had a heart attack, died. In the room next door
was the son fucking his brother's wife. So they're double double,
but they didn't know that each other were there, Like

(24:50):
that's like me and you and here doing the podcast
and like freaking Jason Momoa and and and Frankie or
in the other room doing the podcast. And he walked
out like, hey, you were here, Like.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Now I'm thinking about so that the dad like walking
out The whole terrible to.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Get I didn't walk out to the dad died.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Why didn't he have to write the scene where they're
doing it at the same time, Like.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
So, was this uh media Family Funerals twenty.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, I didn't see that.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
I see.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's why I've.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Never seen a media movie. But straight through Clinton's Never
Yourself made it from so lucky.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Dire even Mad Black Women was good, like it was
like it was like a wave because you know, he
had to places and they were adapted to movies dark,
like Family was good. I can't remember the ones after that,
but there was a few that were like okay, but
then you start to see the formula, you go okay,
like you just kind of you got a thing for
punishing black women at this point, and like, I just
want to say that, like, and I know he came

(25:47):
out recently and was just kind of like, oh, yeah,
you know, I like to depict women going through struggle.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I like to depict women going through triumph. I like
to depict black women doing everything. But I'm like, but if.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
There was a pie chart, yeah, like black women's ruggle
will probably be ninety percent of what you portrayed.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
You threw Daddy's Little Girls in there for like the
one little.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
One off that's the one person that's the one percent,
and then don't even get me started started for Color Girls.
I know he didn't direct it. I'm sure he didn't
direct it, but Color Girls just.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
And then it was an acrimony which was like a
fifty to fifty split and people.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Are like, who was it him or was it her? Right?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
But you know, you can argue like people are having
a conversation, which okay, cool with that, But but the
conversation all of this that I want to get into
is I liking Tyler Perry to Adam Sandlers so much,
and I thought it was funny how Tyler Perry came
out with his stuff and then Adam Sandler came out
with Happy Gilmore Too and full transparency, Like I my

(26:42):
dumb brain enjoys Happy Gilmore Too, right, but as a
big fan of Happy Gilmore one, it's one of my
favorite comedies of all time, Like one A and one
B is Waterboy and Happy Gilmore like those are my shit.
I think they're comedically like genius. Happy Get Moore two
is just not that. It's nowhere near that. And I
don't think it's a good movie at all. It's a
dumb movie, fun movie to turn on to kind of
like just enjoy, but when you're really watching it, you're

(27:04):
just like, Okay, this is kind of stupid. But I
accept Adam Sandler for doing that, right, which is you know,
because it's just dumb, harmless fun.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
He's putting his homies on, he's.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Giving people jobs, like and you know that Adam is
capable of putting.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
In a great performance.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
You want to talk about uncut gems, You want to
talk about Punch Drunk Love, You want to talk about
this new movie he has coming out called j Kelly,
Like he's being praised for that as well, like Adam
Sandler's Got It Helped fucking Hustle, Like Adam Sandler's Got
It In. I would even put Long ash Yard his
performance Long ash Art is.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Really good Christmas movies. You know what I'm saying. You
know what I'm saying, Like I like it crazy Nights,
that shit, Oh my god, I was just watching it
like recently, Like that, I.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Wonder if that man wipe his ass with the wrong
It's just fun.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It's stupid fun.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
And like Adam Sandler and Tyler Perry both have formulas
that they have. They know their audience, they know what
people are gonna watch, what they're gonna love, and they
and they accept it right. And with Tyler Perry, I
just have to accept that because every time I talk
about one of those movies, they say, hey, man, like
it's McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's it's McDonald's movies. Like it's easy.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
It's like, what's motivating them to stop because if people
are watching watch and I just feel like if Tyler
Perry made something like an uncut gems, like more uncut gems,
more punch drunk gloves and more longish yards, I will.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Be a little bit more forgiving.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
But I think I'm not as forgiving because he's a
black man, and because like you know, I have a daughter,
I have a mom, I have a grand I've been
raised primarily by women. Bro Like my dad was in
prison for much of my life. He just got out
three throughout four years ago, right, so like much about
I've been surrounded by black women. So to see this
time and time and time and again, I'm a little

(28:54):
sensitive towards it, and I can, I can. I can
admit that I'm a little hot. I'm not gonna be
as hard on Anim Sandler because of that, because it's like, okay,
but what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Imagine me?

Speaker 6 (29:03):
You know, I'm up in the South Church background, and
if you know Tyler perrym.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
And not just that, but my dad was the only
male I had in my life, everybody else.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
Just just him. So I had like one source of
male guidance, but like.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
A ton of female guidance and again growing up in
the South in that church environment and there were no
other men around, you know, so you grew up hearing
those stories about your grandaddy leaving your grandmama or why
you ain't seen Uncle Charles in like three years, And
and then you go turn on these movies and once
again you see men leaving the woman and those women

(29:46):
finding that solidarity in the church, and you seeing it
in real life, it kind of makes you think it's
okay because it's like, oh, he's just telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
This is this is just.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Reality because I see this every day.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
But it's like, just because you see it every day,
does that make it okay? And does it have to
be force fed to you in a in a in
a in a in a form of media that's gonna
make him rich while it continuously perpetuates the same exact
cycle of black man, horrible, black woman, victim, new black man, good,
Black Woman saved.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
It's the same cycle all the time.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
And it's like, hey, like three or if you made
three of those movies right four mass.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
It's a new form of black exploitation.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Is as that.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I think that's the smartest thing you said right there,
because you're you're using this thing and you're saying like
this is my bag.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I'm gonna tell the story across generations.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
But at the same time, like when are you gonna
depict the men who are there, you know, as a
black man who is like actively in his daughter's life,
Like the daughter is like right outside right now, right
I take her everywhere with me, Like I'm like, where's
that story?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like Daddy's Little Girls? Was
that one percent of that?

Speaker 6 (30:52):
But why the baby? But the bitter baby Mama?

Speaker 4 (30:54):
But then you got the bitter baby Mama and it's
you know, so I think as creatives, as as creators.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
And I'm not saying like I'm a director or anything
like that.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
What I like about you know, people like Martin Scorsese
or a Quin Tarantino or it fucking uh Ryan Coogler,
you know what I'm saying, Like they tell different types
of stories that they want to tell based off of
their experiences at different points of their life. Right Like
Sinners was made because Ryan like had an uncle pass away.

(31:26):
If he wanted to make something that he would like
right that like explores his heritage and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
Because that got him to get more connected to his southern.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Rooms exactly exactly right, and then all these other ones
are like ip films. They're all different types of stories,
but like one director telling the same story over and
over and over and over again. That's why I'm just
kind of like, okay, bro, you have an audience and
like they're going to eat it up. But for me,
that's just not really my bag. Whereas like you know,
Adam Sandler, he's just telling dumb ass poop jokes and
like you know, like all his characters are just dumb,

(31:55):
like cartoonish type of character things.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But it's funny, right, it's you.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Know, So I just I just think it's funny that
we're living in a time where we're having people who
have a formula, who have a recipe that works.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
We're seeing Dwayne Johnson from that, yeah, finally, right, Like
Dwayne Johnson was just doing whatever the hell, like just
being Dwayne Johnson in every movie. And he said himself,
was I doing this because I love the business or
was I doing it for me?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Right? Like what do I love to do?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
And he's doing this. He's doing a margin Scorsese movie
coming out I think in a year or two or
something like that, and like we're gonna see a much
different Dwayne Johnson. And then we're gonna like, once these
two movies come out, we'll see what he does like later,
it seems like he's in a different mindset. But we're
gonna look back and say, remember when Dwayne Johnson was
just in everything that just had no rhyme or reason,

(32:51):
no nothing, Like he was trying to take over DC universes.
He was the fast and furiousest. He's fighting gorillas and
monsters and stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Like he's had four separate movies the same shirt and
that same shirt and the I'm serious, like you can't
have a conversation with this. I love bro.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Unerous, like in the same damn shirt.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Like remember what he did for so spirious savorite movies
in the in the in the Safari shirt. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
So at one meme, I think they show like a
scene of him and Rampage, a scene of him in
uh San Andreas, Jumanji and another movie, and it was
just like you'll never believe these are from four different.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Movies, you know what I'm saying, And like like this
is there's this creator that likes a lot of a
lot of studios and.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Movies that do that, man, and it gets on my
nerves like that the formula just stick to the formula.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
And like you know, there there's.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
There's merit to it, Like I don't want to say merit,
but there is a rhyme and reason to it. Because
I love them fast and furious movies, right like I
love the formula, the fast and furious movies.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Like I can't get him for them ships, right like
the could keep going, they could keep going, like giving me,
giving me those dinosaurs, like give me dinosaur.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Need more dinosaur. I'm gonna keep coming back. I'm gonna
tell you that it's not a great thing. I'm so
deep in though I'm sorry they made was.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like I need it, I like it, right, but I
would keep it up with you. I'm like, this ship
is stupid.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
It's dumb.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's dumb, but like sign me up, right.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
So like there are people who like what they like
and it's the reason why fucking the Earnest movies were
so big.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Media was the new Earnest movies and ship like that.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
So like I'm not gonna like, yup, nobody's young, but
I am gonna tell you that I don't like your
young you know what I'm saying, Like we have different
taste buds and I'm gonna just keep it a.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Stack with that, right.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
But like, there's this creator that I follow. I recently
started following him. His name is Jamal Butkarr. I believe
that I said is a last name correctly b Yeah, yeah,
he's a from across the water, but super intelligent.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Dude is super smart.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
And he had this video where he was talking about
trying to remember where it was because I don't want
to get this wrong, but he had this video where
he was talking about creating not to Okay, this is
what it was. He was responding to the mister Beasts
crash out to Caleb. I can't remember the last guy's name,

(35:26):
but his name is Caleb. His first name is Caleb.
He's an actor, podcaster. He was number seven on Times
one hundred most Influential Creators list. Mister Beasts was like
number nine or some shit, and mister Beasts I crashed
out and made a tweet say like, oh who did
I piss off?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
At time? Like how is this guy more influential than me?

Speaker 4 (35:42):
And da da da da da, And he put it
perfectly he said, mister Beasts makes noise. Caleb actually has
an earned voice, right when he speaks, he earns the
attention of people, right, and that's what influences. He's like,
are you And he's like mister Beasts, not denying the

(36:04):
empire that he's made, Like he has a candy, he
has a fucking show on Prime Video. He has like
you know, he does good for people, he cures minus
and all that shit, but at the end of the day,
like it feels all empty because it just feels like noise.
He's just jumping in front of people and people are
saying like, Okay, yeah, I'll watch it.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Whereas Caleb, when he speaks, you stop. And that's real influence, right,
And like you could tell, like Caleb doesn't necessarily seeks
out influence. He just has an influential like voice and
cadence and presence to him. And so I feel like
when it comes to movies, like going back to Dwayne Johnson,

(36:43):
for the longest time, Dwayne Johnson was just making noise, right.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
He wasn't earning our attention.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
He earned it back in the WWE days and when
he first started out, because you know, he's chars back
and everything, but after a certain while, it's like, okay,
but as an actor, you're supposed to like show us
your soul through performance, right, And Dwayne is finally realizing that,
which is why he got that fifteen minute standing ovation
at Venice.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
So and we see that we can apply this to everything, right.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
The MCU after endgame, they were just making noise right,
Like there was no rhyme or reason for what they
were doing.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
They were just putting it out because they knew the
fans were going to do it.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
But and that was really tough too, because tough watch
I called twenty twenty two. Twenty twenty two on Tiktak
was very interesting. I call that year the Great Marvel
Civil War because that was the.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Year back versus.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
That was the year where the fandom was at each
other because you had one side given genuine criticisms of
where the MCU had went direction wise, and then you
had the other side that was so blindly loyal to
the MCU that anything Marvel put out, they were on
board with it, and they were calling the people who

(37:57):
were saying like, no, something's off, they were calling them crazy,
you know, Like I seen guys getting almost pushed off
the platform simply for saying, I'm not really that big
of a fan of she Hulk, you're a massaginist. WHOA,
I just said, I don't like this show the CG

(38:18):
I looks terrible.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
Why now I hate women?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Can I say?

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Sorry?

Speaker 8 (38:23):
Mom?

Speaker 5 (38:25):
I didn't know I hated women till today, Apparently because
I don't.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Like I gotta say something because I was at the
center of that conversation too, because like I because I
was one of the guys.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I said, like, you, if you don't.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Like she Hulk, how did I say, if you're a
fragile man, you're not gonna like she hop That's what
I said?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
And it was like, which is fact? Which is facts?

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Because he was a very woman centered show.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
It was it was a show that put women in
the position of power, that put women in a certain light.
And to deny the fact that guys can be pigs,
yes would be lying. Yes, to deny the fact that
every guy that tried to holler as she hok in
that show, that's how men act for real. And and

(39:12):
if you want to deny that fact, then you're part
of the problem, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (39:17):
It's like, if you don't like she Holk, that doesn't
automatically mean you're a misogynist or a fragile man.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I didn't like she Holk, right, Like, I didn't fuck
with she Hoke like that.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Like I was like, it's funny, it's cool, but like
it's low on the whole Marvel product probably like bottom
like five.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Right.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
So but then I was like, but if you're fragile man,
one hundred percent, you're not gonna like this shit. So
people were threatening to fight me, like they said, oh,
say that ship to my double bro for I got
the comment like I have a video responding to the
comment where he says, I like to see you say
that ship to me in person that I don't like
she Hulk. And that was the first time I said,
nigga on TikTok, what's.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Funny is there's another?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Come on, there's another, but it is not the last.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
That is why that studio do't invite me. Shit, that's it's.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Another Marvel movie that has that had some of the
kind of the same thing, and that was Black Panther.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Oh yeah, when.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
George made that video movies and stuff for a team,
My boy, you remember that.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Video he was doing like the I think it.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Was like it was like some magazine had came out
with like their top like one hundred comic book movies.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
They had Black Panther and.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Like number two or something like that, like number one,
and he was just like respectfully disagreeing, saying like, no,
I don't think that he was called racist by so
many people on It's like that man did not deserve
that as a white person. If you don't like Black Panther,
that does not mean that you're racist. However, if you

(40:48):
are racist, you want It's the same thing with she Halt.
If you are a fragile man, you won't like she Hope.
But if you don't like she Hope, that doesn't automatically
make you a fragile man. It's a weird look the
in line, but there's merit to the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Like they there's a Venn diagram.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Yeah, like everyone thought that it's the whole thing is
the middle, and you're talking about me.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
It's like, now you're on this side, bro.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
And also it's a good thing to say because it
brought out the fragile men, right, because I'm like, if
you're not fragile, why you.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
What you're talking to me?

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Fo?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
But yeah, so yeah, dude, Like I can't even remember
like how we even got on this. Oh yeah, because
like that era of the Marvelson Mac universe was just
so split and so crazy. It was every project was
like we back and it's like, oh we never left
and oh it's shitty. Oh it's actually back again, you know.
And I stopped really going hard on Marvel content because

(41:45):
the product was just all over the place, and like
it's hard to theorize when they don't even know what
they're theorizing about. Like after after the uh Eternals Harry
Styles thing never came to fruition, I was like, what
are we doing here? Like you know, Blade came out
and says, what are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (42:03):
I actually used to make a lot of MCU content
first got on and again twenty twenty two, bro, it
was everybody was MCU.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Bro that that WandaVision era was crazy, like the WandaVision
talking about.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Loki, the Lokey era when.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
That shit kick bro to mind your twenty twenty two
is post no Way Home, post Eternals, post Shunk Chi Entering,
Sheethuk Entering. What else was twenty twenty two. Uh, multi
Verse of Madness. It was a lot of stuff. And

(42:39):
this was also during the Batman. So we got this
DC movie, this one DC project that people are like
holding way above everything, marveling like the last three years, didn't.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
The Suicide Squad also come out.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Yeah, James Gunn Suicide Squad. Yeah, and that came in.
So people was looking at.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
DC like they got some, they got some. They cooking
what y'all doing? You know what I'm saying? That was
that was very very What made me pull back from
MCU content. Honestly, bro was the the engagement. The engagement.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
People are so nasty on that's all.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
It's funny because you would think that like horror people
would be like dickheads and like edge lords.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
But they're not.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
The horror community is the nicest, most pleasant people in
the world.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
People who inherently like horror are the nicest people you
will ever meet on the planet.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
This is the most beautiful.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
They look scary, but actually very they're actually very nice.
Like David Dispouching like he is sweetheart, and he's like
a horror master, horror master.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Like you need to get him back.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I was going to gay. We got to get him back.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's before we actually locked in locked in, so I
would love to have him back now that we have
everything set we got.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I mean that man's working between street Fighter because he's
playing let's street Fighter Bison. He's not Bison. No in
fact checking for me real quick. Yeah, I want to
see fifty cents in that. So everybody's in that, it seems,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
But he's got street Fighter coming out.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
He's gonna be in one piece of Mister three, like
Man's directing, He's in, He's in everything, and like, we
got to get him back because he's a good friend
and like again, nicest guy you'll ever meet. Super he
makes his own comics. Bro, Like that dude is just
he's crazy. But back to what you were saying, I
think what really huh Bison? Yep see, I think what

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really like Muddy. The whole like Marvel conversation was people
who like the movies and people who like the comics
and all the people in between, right, because the people
who read the comics are like, oh, well, how come
you didn't know this?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
You need to pick up a fucking book. And it's
like sometimes people don't want to read comics. People don't recomics.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Sometimes people just going, oh, you're just an MCU fanboy,
And it's just very.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Impossible to be only an MCU fan.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Because they basically created their their own storyline, like it's like.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
The own universe.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
It's hard to talk comic accuracy when it comes to
the movies, and it's like, it's funny because comic accuracy
will get praised.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
In a movie, but when they deviate from the comic.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Accuracy, it gets praised if it's good, but if it's
not favorable, then they'll complain and say that's not comic accurate.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
Yeah. If that's the case, then Infinity War and comic accurate.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, that's not.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Most his reason for wanting the Infinity Stones in the
movies is not in the comics.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
That story starts with everybody getting snapped away.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
He's a simp.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Yeah, he was trying to impress Lady death Dead, pulling
up smashing her.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
How are you gonna make that movie? That makes sense? Right?

Speaker 5 (45:58):
They changed that whole storyline to make it fit into
a cinematic universe because it would not make sense. Imagine
a movie with Josh Brolin Stanos trying to cuff Lady
Death and here comes Ryan Reynolds behind him, smashing Death's
cheeks and Josh Brolin Stanos is just sitting there crying
like the Jordan mean, it wouldn't look it would be
a fucking comedy movie.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Honestly, in a dead Pool movie, that still could happen.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
In a Deadpool movie, that would be.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
That's actually still on the table right now, Jos bro
I can see him coming back.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
For Yeah, it would work like for the serious tone
that Infinity the War was going for.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
And no, it would have been it had been crazy.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Because like Josh Roland was cable in a Deadpool movie,
he will come back and do.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
It if they asked. He's like pashing up in front
of like that Os and he goes like take this cable.
I mean Dando's I can see that. And listen, Ryan's
gonna be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Uh, what was I gonna say because we only have
a couple of minutes left in this episode.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
That actually I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I was gonna say where we're getting there, But you
guys actually made a really good point where there was
some So I'm one of those people that's in between
like I was never really heavy on the comic books,
but all of the things that were adapted from the
comic books the source material, right, so all of the
TV shows, every all the animated series, all the live
action stuff, all that.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah, we got to talk and as we're gonna get
we're gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, it's gonna say do you think it? And kind
of going on your point though, there are some people
and I think this, if you are not familiar with
the source material and then you see a film and
they like the film, some people think they're crazy because, hey,
it didn't happen this way in this book, it didn't
happen this way. But is there anything that would be

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justifiable to you where if you didn't know the source material,
just saw the movie.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, standalone movie.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Great, But knowing the source material then seeing the movie
movie trash.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
So I have two ways into that, right, Like, because
ever since Harry Potter and definitely Hollows Part two, I'm
say one and two, I started doing this thing where
if I know there's a book, I'm not gonna check
out the book before seeing the movie, right, I'm gonna
check out the movie, get it on its own, therit
and then I'll see the book and fill in the
blanks like after.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Right, Comics is a little.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Different because like there's different universes, there's different variations, and
I see any movie adaptation as like a different universe.
Like I don't want it to be like one to
one because I could just read the comic. It'll be
cool to see the comic like being played once to
one on screen, but like it's a different universe to me.
So if I see something, if I rate the comic
first and I see like a comic book adaptation and

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it's good, I'm like, this shit is fire, like, like
I'm not gonna be beholden to it.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
If they change certain big things to the character or
like to the story and the movie doesn't benefit from that,
then I'm gonna be like, Okay, you change something and
you're worse all for it. Right, That's that's my big thing.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
If people give the MCU a lot of crap, especially
when it comes to Spider Man, but y'all have to
admit bro the fact that they completely obliterated Uncle Ben's
storyline and still somehow made it make sense. It's impressive
because there is no Spider Man.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
Without Uncle Ben.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, that was my number one complaint.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
But they made it happen, you know what I'm saying,
So what across how you feel about it, you gotta
give them a little bit of credit.

Speaker 6 (49:24):
They make that shit work.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
It's its own thing.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Like there's comics where Uncle Ben is still alive, you
know what I'm saying, Like, you know how and they
become Spider Man and how he is and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
So it took me a minute.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
It took me until like No Way Home to be like, Okay,
maybe we didn't need Uncle Ben.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
I would have liked to have had an Uncle Ben moment.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
But you know, at the end of the day, they're
still good movies, right, So like I don't I don't
try to be so like precious of the original source material.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I'm trying to think of something.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Because I was gonna say the Eternals, right, yeah, I've
never seen anything from all I saw was the movie.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Right, So they were a very unpopular group, right, and
this is very very I'm talking very yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Yeah, And I didn't read any comics on the Eternals
or anything like that at all, so like there, I
had nothing to base it off of. But even then,
I feel I like the movie for just certain reasons.
I think the cinematography is great. I thought the scope
and scale of it, and.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I was gonna say, I think the cinematography was amazing.
I think it's one of the best looking.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
I think it's one of the best directed in Yeah, yeah,
close out closet.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I said this, I say this all the time. I
loved I loved how it looked I did.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
I just think the contents of like its heroes and
what they were trying to do the villains, it just
felt very empty, soulless. Like the villain Crow was just
useless by the end of it. I was gonna call
him Kit Harrington, but Robert Richard Madden Richard Madden, who
played Rob Stark and Game of Thrones, I just feel
he was very like Wooden in its performance while being

(50:58):
a Superman copycat is just and then like all the
superhero stuff of this movie just felt very like basic
to me. So, like, you know, I just feel like
the movie was just very lacking in a lot of areas,
not because like, oh, they changed some stuff in the comic.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I don't know what they did in the comic. It's
just on its own. Yes, I have no refuge like that.
All right, so let's let's go harder.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Than yes, So I can't really have an Indian and
asked this question. Ye, this is like the number one
question that I ask my guess. It's like I like
to get to know my guess based off of the
movies that like kind of like change their brain chemistry
and like created the building blocks to who they are.
Like it literally like permeates through their life and it
made them who they are. So my question to you, bro,

(51:41):
what is the movie that changed your brain chemistry?

Speaker 6 (51:44):
Just a movie?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
A movie?

Speaker 6 (51:46):
It's my brain chemistry that made me. It's actually two.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Okay, that multiple's good.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
They're now it's funny that they're not horror movies. Scarfa
in New jack City.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
You told me about Scarface. You told me about Scarface.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
Those two movies like showed me.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
What it takes to get what you want, but also
knowing when to chill out.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Before it goes too far.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
And I think that's the overall message of both of
those movies. Do what you gotta do to get where
you gotta get, but when you get there, take care
of it and.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Don't fuck it off.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
You know what I'm saying, because like Tony, he had everything,
you know, but he couldn't let that, he couldn't let
that that that booger sugar go and he let that,
he let that, he let that power get get in
the way and he ended up squandering all of it gone.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
You know, story of breaking bad right there.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
You know, same thing with with with Nino and uh
in New Jack City. You know, it's it's like he.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Is, there's always that mishand of it when you get
to that point, you know. And that's something that I
always keep in mind, especially now, like with what I.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Be with what I'm doing now.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Like you know, I when I first started making videos,
but I was working at a call center, bro, like
working from home, and I actually got fired from that
job because I was I got so wrapped up and
making content that I was like editing videos on the clock. Bro,
I'm like stopping work to like film content. And eventually

(53:27):
my numbers started to slip. And this was before I
was even monetized.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
So I was like, I gave it up.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
I gave up my income for something that was giving
me no income.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Was that like a was that like a conscious risk
that you was doing?

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Like I gotta do this, like at risk of my
job or did it just happen and you were like,
well shit, I got I got no job.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Now I have to one thing that I realized, well
I will I have. I was diagnosed with ADHD, so
like I'm actually I take out her all and that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
This is before I was diagnosed, before I was medicated.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
And you know, if you know, if you know anybody
with AD they'll tell you that we work on.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Stimulant stimulant stimulants.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
I cannot fake passion, I cannot fake interest, I cannot
fake knowledge. I just simply cannot fake anything because it
takes too much brain power to do so. And my
mind only resorts to what's easy for me, which is
the things that stimulate the brain, fun things, things that
are interesting, things that that that that get my brain flowing.

(54:30):
And that was always pop culture, media, movies, music. I
can break down so many different things. My mind is
a labyrinth of useless information. I've always said that, and
it's so funny that when I got fired from my job,
I was like, damn, I'm not monetized on TikTok. I'm
not monetized anywhere I need to get something going. So

(54:53):
I ended up getting a job at Party City. I
worked at Party City for two weeks and I got
an email from Hulu and FX about my first brand deal.
They wanted to pay me five thousand dollars for one video.
And I looked at that email, and I looked at
my first check half a check from Party City, and
I said, it would take me three months, like two

(55:16):
three months to make this, and I get to make
this in one video. Let's just say I never showed
back up the Party City and that right there was
my scarface. K new Jack, that was my scarface Nino
Brown moment. That was the world is yours, that was
your that was my this you know what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Like the world is yours? What are you gonna do
with it? This is the opportunity that you didn't know
you wanted because when.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
You first started making video, when I first started doing it,
I didn't know what I was doing, just fun, and
then it became a thing, and then that thing became
more of a thing. And there's a lot of and
there's a lot of moments that I've had recently where
I've had my twenty Montena moment where I'm like, yeah,
I'm not sho.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
Look at what I'm doing. Yeah, look at what I
I did. This, I ain't got to do. I ain't
gonna deal with nothing. I don't like. This is stupid.
Listen to that one. Then I all gotta remember no, no, no, no, no,
chill out, be humble, because remember you are one.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Flagged video away from your ship being ship.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
One flag video, one Trump banning one fucking you feel me?

Speaker 5 (56:29):
You are just and you don't want to get so
high on your coke mountain, and then you wake up
one day in the app bond or or somebody then
reported all your videos and hell, recently I lost my Instagram,
Like yeah, yeah, my Instagram got suspended bro back in
like May, like two weeks.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Thank god I got it back. You know what I'm saying.
But yeah, those yeah, I would definitely say those. Those
are two movies.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
That that that changed my chemistry because you watch them
come up and you watch them get to that peak
and you watch all go to hell, and it's just like, Nope,
I want to get to that peak and I don't
want to fall off. I want to always make sure
that I treat people right. I talk to people right,
I connect with people the right way, that I'm genuine,

(57:14):
that I protect what I built, and also that I'm
that I help people.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
You know, I help people I got. I got friends that.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Owe me money right now because I've loaned the money,
you know what I mean. Like, you know, I help
my mom all the time. You know, I send a
mo money or I'll pay for a car net one month.
Like you know, I try to make sure that I
call it. They said aural farming. I'm karma farming. Yeah,

(57:46):
Like I make sure that.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
I can.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
I make sure that I am as good of a
person to people that I care about as I can,
because that's how you create good karma.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
If you take care of people, people would.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
Look out for you and take care of you. The
universe will see that you are doing the work to
keep where keep you where you at.

Speaker 6 (58:11):

Speaker 5 (58:12):
You know, I get an email from from from somebody
that say, hey, you know, we want to invite you here,
even if I'm not getting paid where I'll take my
own money and I'll come out here, and it's just
to show appreciation, you know, because I don't want to
get into that cycle of.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
I can't go I'm not gonna respond to the email. No,
one can't make it.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Eventually, we're gonna get around. Can't invite Stoney, he ain't
gonna come next thing. You know, no emails because work
ain't got around. No one sees you anywhere. They go
to your Instagram, you don't. You don't have any events
that you can be tied to. So that's why I
come out. I need my Getty because that Getty, when

(58:54):
it goes online, it's basically like a resume. This is
all of what he's done, This is where he's being.
Obviously he's not new to this space. He's supposed to
be here. He's someone that we can bring, you know
what I'm saying, like I try to build a good
paper trail, you know, with with with with the images
that I take at these events, with the content that
I make about these events and stuff like that. So

(59:16):
and that's really why I wanted some management, because I
felt like I had reached my personal ceiling. Yes, like
I can't get myself no further than this, Like I'm
I personally cannot take myself no further than just the
guy with the phone.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
That's all I can do.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
That's that's all I can do.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
I have reached that point. I can't do anything else,
like that's all I can do. So that's why I
needed that management. So someone that can say, Okay, you
got yourself to this door, now I can bring you
through this.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
One, you know what I mean. And that's pretty.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Much you go farther when you got people to help
you out.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Man, Like shit, I have similar similar situations man now,
Like luckily I got like a good team. Like you know,
obviously I made friends with my homie, Ace's Spades. Craig
was you know, his man, and so like you know,
he introduced.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Me to this spot.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Got in good with Craig and me and him in
Tidle Hill, you know, Paul Dave, Like these are people
that are like partially responsible for making straw Hat goofy, right, Like,
so when you see me at all these different places,
it's because these guys are like helping me along the way.
Like I'm creating and I'm like reaching out and doing
those things. But you don't get as far without like

(01:00:24):
some people behind you. All right, we got to get
into the horror because we've been talking for like hours
something and I know people want to hear about you.
So I just got to know, bro, like you don't
see a lot of black horror people in the space
at all, like at all, And I just want to know, bro, like,
what is it about horror that like excites you so much?
Like what was that movie that made you go like, damn,
this shit is dope. I gotta make this my whole,

(01:00:47):
my whole life.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
Horror is a part of my life for so long, brother,
I don't even remember. Because my dad was a horror fan.
A lot of a lot of what I do came
from him. If my dad was younger, he would be here,
you know what I mean, like like genuinely speaking, like
if my dad was able to, he would be a
movie creator because I get all of this from him.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
You know, growing up, the movies that I watched were.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Seventies blaxploitation movie yea, yeah, Martial arts movies, horror movies
that just sounds like a dad's like yea.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
And the last one.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Black Hood movies. That was my four effecta. You know,
that was my that was my that was my quad right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
There on the Hood movies, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
It was hood movie, horror movie, martial arts movie, seventies
blaxploitation movie. So I'm a typical Saturday morning for me.
Bro would look like do the right thing, that would
turn into Superfly. Superfly would turn into Enter the Dragon.
And then by the end of the night we watching
Friday the thirteenth. That was what a typical Saturday movie

(01:01:57):
they would. Yeah, that's that's what a typical Saturday movie
day with my dad looked like growing up, you know
what I'm saying. And didn't grow with a whole lot
of money, so he was always at Blockbuster, yeah, at
the little mom at the little mom and pop video stores,
and the mom and pop video stores always had like
the best horror section. Yeah, and he used to always

(01:02:19):
take me over there and would just like look through
box art and be like, I watched this movie, I
watched that one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
Growing up, I used to see this one and stuff like.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
That, and it piqued my interest. So I was just like, hey,
let's rent this one, Let's rent that one. And then eventually,
you know, we just kind of just started watching more
and more with me, and because you know, I'm the
only child, you know, and my dad was kind of
young when he had me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
He was like twenty four, So I was just always
with my dad.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
You know, I was always with my dad, and if
he wasn't watching the movie, he was playing a video game.
And that's another side of me that I got from
my dad. Yeah, you know, I got that from my
pops too. So it's like all of that came from
just being broken in the house and having nothing else
to do but watch movie like pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Maybe that's why I watched a lot of movies.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Yeah, I grew up on pizza, hut wings and horror
movies like that is listen and going to the arcade
like you know, and that we didn't have no arcade, but.

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Yeah, that's what you know, that's what it was, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
And I just always loved Halloween too, you know, Halloween
was always my favorite holiday. I just love the the
energy around Halloween.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Yeah, you know, I love that that energy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
And I'm starting to notice that Halloween has kind of
gone a little more mainstream lately.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
Like I noticed like Spooky Season is a lot longer.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
I remember back in the day, like you didn't see
Halloween stuff on the shelves until like October first.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Late November October first.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
Yeah, like that was when you started seeing like you know,
like September twenty seventh you started seeing but now you
like even at the end of August.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
I'm confused. I feel like that's like I do thing
it is. It's like people are like, oh, yeah, got
by Halloween in July. Yeah, midsommer scream like.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
You know, and again growing up in the South and
you know, in a in a black, southern churchy kind
of environment.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
Like my grandmama.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
My grandma used to tell me watching horror movies was
inviting spirits into my house and that's the devil. And
it's funny because like I still deal with comments like that,
Like the funniest TikTok comment in the world. And I'm
putting this on the record, bro, is when y'all see
a horror video and y'all comment, I claim no negative
energy from this video.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
But you watched the video.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
But you watched the video.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
You watched the video, and you're responding to comments days later,
like you keep coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
You could have just wo yeah, like how about not
watching the native.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
Yeah, or just click not interested something? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
This is your algorithm.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
And it's so crazy because I noticed that that happens
a lot with black horror movies. I cannot tell you
how many times I've had people comment on all of
my hymn content, telling people don't watch this moment. Yes,
it's just like you didn't say that about Evil Dead Rise.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
True. True. You know, I ain't seen people say that
about Conjuring.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
They're on the fourth one. Yeah, but you definitely said
that about Sinners.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
Yeah. I saw you. Yeah, I saw you in the
comments you said that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
You know, black horror is the most devilish, devilish stuff
to ever devil.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Yeah, you know, it's funny like with Sinners in him
is don't watch this movie.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
It's deminic.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
You're letting spirits in. But the Conjuring, that's okay. Even
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
I'm not gonna lie though.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
At that hymn event, I did not step on that
little demonic symbol when they took the getties.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I did not. I said, she's like, oh you stuff?
I said, Can I not? I said can? I not?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Like, because if something started happening like a couple of
months from now, I want to be the only one,
yeah that survives.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
So wait, what's your favorite horror movie?

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
My favorite horror movie, bro, The Shining, And it took
me a minute to like actually like love The Shining
for what it was like when I watched it as
a kid, Like I just did not get it, like
because you know, that movie is just as much artistic
as it scary, and I didn't understand the art behind it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Right, But it's the first elevated horror movie.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
I would say that, like, if The Shining came out now,
it would definitely be made by a twenty four twenty
four movies, bro, Like it's so it's such an isolationist movie.
Like and when you really understand that, that's when I
understood atmosphere for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Right, the atmosphere is so terrifying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Like the scene where he's like rolling in the hallway
and it's the sound of the board. He's going left right, left, right,
and you just know he's gonna run into something, and
then the twins happened, the elevator happens, the freaking like
Jack going into the room and the old lady coming
out and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Like that, Like, bro, Like all that stuff makes you say.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
This is one of the greatest horror movies of all time,
and it's definitely like my favorite now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
But for the longest time, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Not mayon Elm Street, not Street, Like I don't think
I really need to explain why, Like I didn't even
want not want to go to sleep as a child.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
It's like, damn. But then recent one Cabin in the Woods,
Cavin in the Woods is a fucking fire, which one twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Let's just just make sure we're all on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
The same back when Joss Wheden was like, not a creep,
you know what I'm saying, Like, because that one was
only came out because of the success of The Avengers,
as they made that movie like what two years before,
and they were basically releasing it to capitalize on the
star power of Chris Emsworth. So like when you watch
Thor and Avengers and then you watch Captain the Woods,

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both movies that came out the same year, Chris Hemsworths
is clearly younger in that movie, right. But I just
think I just think it's so cool. I think it's
a great subversion of like horror movie tropes. I think
it's a great like breakdown and satire horror movie tropes,
while still being a horror movie in its own right,
still being is gory in its own right, like that
ending is one of the best like third acts and
like horror movie history. If you ask me, it's wild,

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it's bloody, it's crazy, like it's it fucked the it's
funny but dark, like the scene where Chris like jumps
over the canyon and hits the fucking force field.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Bro, I screamed so loud. I was like, oh shit,
Like I was like, like, and it's weird, Like it's
it's weird that I don't get a lot of horror
movies that like get that reaction out of me, right
usually you know, I'll jump And I was like, oh,
but that shit made me actually go oh like yeah, damn,
like you know, so yeah, I would say like Cabin
in the Woods, bro, Like it's my number three.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Nine Midi on the Street is my number two, and
then The Shining is my number one. Man that those
horror movies like really like those are my big three,
like when it comes to horrors, and even like Cavin
in the Woods, Like I know I can probably find
like a better horror movie, I guess, yeah, but like
I don't know. That's just it's like when like Letterbox
actually your your favorite four movies. Yeah, just like Oh,
these are the ones that are close to me. Those

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are like the movies that are close to me. Yeah,
what about you, bro, Like, I know, I know you
love some hell Raiser. I gotta ask you, like, sure,
what is it about hell Raiser that just.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
It's funny because Hell Raiser isn't even my favorite horror movie.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
He's your favorite, like he's my favorite horror Like okay, okay,
your favorite horror movie.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
My favorite horror movie is actually the two thousand and
four of the Grudge.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
And it's crazy because I've seen so many horror movies
that are like light years ahead of that movie and
like way better. The reason why that movie will always
be my favorite movie is because I have yet to
find a movie that terrified me like that one did.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
I was thirteen years old, and I will never forget
that experience being in that movie theater being scared shitless.
And it's because I'm American. I never saw Japanese horror.
I never knew that they even made.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
And they're some of the best status too.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
They are them and Korean in Japanese horror movie Chef Kiss.
So this is my first time being exposed to Japanese horror.
Movies because my only exposure to Asian cinema at that
point was Martial Larws films.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
I didn't know they got down like that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
So when I watched The Grudge and like this the
uncanny nature of the of her movie, and knowing that
she did all of that practical, like all the contortion stuff,
all of that was practical, and it just it sensitized
me from horror movies because everything after that didn't not yeah,
it didn't get it. So it's always been like the

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spooky standard for me, and that's why it'll always be
like my favorite one.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
What's your second yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, you said you had a couple of
favorite horror movies.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
My other ones would definitely be nineteen seventy nine's Chi Zombie.
That is one of the greatest zombie movies ever made,
extremely grungy Italian horror. You know, the makeup, the practical effects,
the slow walking nature of the zombies. They showed the

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zombies like coming out of the ground, you know, like
this is like the first time on screen in a
zombie movie where you can see a literal corpse come
out of the ground with worms crawling in the eyeball
to like show you that this is actually a decomposing body. Like,
I don't think there has ever been a zombie movie
that captured what a walking corpse looks like better than

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Lucio Zombie bro.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
That's a good because, like I'm thinking of all these zombies.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Think of every zombie movie you've ever seen. No zombie
movie has ever made them look like a walking corpse.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I've ever seen that up until The Walking Dead did it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
Yeah, they're walking dead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Because I'm thinking of I'm thinking of Like the Dead,
I'm thinking of Dawn of the Dead by Zack Snyder.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
I'm thinking of Land of the Dead. I'm thinking of
the Day of the Day, Day of the Day. I'm
thinking of I'm thinking of all these movies, and it
just seems like they're people who are just like blood dribbling.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Out of their mouths, more so like infected.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
They're in fact, I think that's the one. They're just
mostly infected. And I blame twenty Days Later.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Before that's one of the most impactful bombie movies or
horror movies, and just the steps are zombie movies.

Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
A whole created a whole new.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
Wave of how we perceived the zombie genre because the
zombie genre is a staple, so you know, before that,
it was just the typical, slow walking, resident evil type Zombieah.
But even with those movies, like if you look at
DAWNA the Dead, the original from nineteen seventy eight, they
were blue.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Yeah they were blue people.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
Yeah, they were like you know, they were blue.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
But if you look at Lucio Fuchi Zombie, that's a corpse,
Like that's a that's a dead body walking around, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
I have one zombie movie that actually did do it,
Scooby Do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Zombie Island, which was terrifying. Yeah, still is scary.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
Okay, it's my top four favorite zombie movies of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I Should You Not?

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
Should You Not?

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Twenty eight Days, Shot of the Dead, Donna the Dead,
Scooby Do on Zombie It can't be mad out for
because those were actual courses and they came out of
the ground. You could tell they're like decomposed ship.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
The fact that Scooby Doo was willing to go there
first off, it's like crazy, But yeah, what was your
third woman?

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
My other one would definitely be It's so hard I watch,
I do I watch because I have recently.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
Yeah, like I have.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Like multiple like multiple like threes and stuff like that,
Like because like if I could do like my top
three of like Modern HORRD would be totally different than
like my overall.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
To like do it a cross generation if.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
I did like a overall, like a cross bro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
That zombie one, though, is like is a good pick.
I'm not watch it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
It's freaking fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Howling m M from nineteen eighty five is in popular opinion,
and I know when this clip gets released there are
going to be people that are going to call me crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
That's the red.

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
But I want to look.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
Directly in that camera and say this, the werewolf transformation
from the nineteen eighty five movie The Howling is better
than American Werewolf.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
And the only people who disagree with that people who
ain't seen it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
It's much more terrifying. It is much more terrifying American
Werewolf in London. It was in a brightly lit living room. Yes, yeah,
look at the look at the zombie, look at the
world transformation from The Howling. He has this woman trapped
in a corner and an abandoned hospital. It's dark and
she can't go nowhere. She's defenseless and she's watching this

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man literally boil at the face, like his face is boiling.
You see the nails drop. It is the most dreadful
transformation ever put on screen. And people hype up the
American Werewolf in London one because it's the popular one.
Go watch the Howling and tell me I'm lying.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Okay, I just wanted to say, I'm not saying no,
do it saying no at all?

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
Yeah, because I've had to argue with people about that
for years.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I'm not gonna argue. I'm gonna be excited to see
this and be like.

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
The Howling easily has the best world of transformation on time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
So I think like that American Werewolf one, it was
like seeing like the nose come the snout come out,
and the legs like grow and like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Coming out there. The practical effect in that was crazy
and like like that's what like when I first saw
that ship.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
The reason why the Howling one is the best one
is because the American worl Wolf in London one was
was a beautiful example of what the eighties could do
with those practicals.

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
To me, that was a display.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
It was like thing level.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
Yeah, that was like a that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
Was a display of talent, but was it really a
display of terror?

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Okay? So I was just about to ask you to
I was like, is it like the atmosphere and like
the moment and the transformation which makes it better? Or
did you have to remember this is a horror? I
hear you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
So if you look at both of those scenes, which
one is scarier, the rightly lit living room or the dark,
abandoned hospital room with this defenseless woman watching this towering
creature transform in front of her eyes, which one was
scared of shit out of you the most?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I see what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
See, this is a conversation that I was having when
I was like, and I don't want to get too
far off topic here, but it's the same principle as
when I told people that Lufy's Gear five transformation was
more impactful and more influential to the story than Dragon
Ball Z's Super Saying transformation, right, because Super Saying maybe
is more iconic.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Nobody can like Vault that it's a great transformation.

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
Like out of all the super out of all the
Super Saying transformations in Dragon ball Z, Gohan's transformation when
he was fighting Sale.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
All my favorite that's meant the most. That is that
meant the most.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
Because this is a child and the world.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Was in it was up to him, yep, and only him.
Goku was not to mention.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
It was a passing of the torch from the protagonist
of Goku to Gohan because Gohan was supposed to be
the leader of the show as well, and it was
a culmination of the potent, the endless potential that everyone
was saying the Gohans since Gohan was introduced, he was.

Speaker 6 (01:17:13):
Always presented as this like a bro like a Franklin
Richard's kind.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Of exactly we always down burst.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
But this was the moment where Gohan arrived, right but
like specifically like the freezer versus Goku, because everyone calls
that like one of the most iconic fights in all
of anime period, right, and that transformation is dope And
just to like wrap this up, the gear five transformation
for people who haven't watched one piece is and packful
to the story because one the devil fruit that we've

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been sitting with for damn near thirty years now that
we thought was just a rubber fruit that allowed him
to stretch, turns out the world government lied about it.
It's not that fruit at all. It's the fruit of
a god, the son God Nika. That information comes with, Oh,
Nika was the previous like hero in the past of
one Piece, and Lufy is inheriting his will. You find
out that again the world government has been that's the

(01:18:03):
reason why they've been chasing the devil fruit and everything
like that. It's it was so much lore that came
with that reveal in that transformation.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
Then it just made that big moment that more impactful.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
It made the past makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
It makes the future go oh shit, that means we're
going here and this and this and that, and it
affects all the big characters in the world that was
introduced thus far. And it took something that you thought
you knew for twenty something years of storytelling and said nope, actually,
but then you start thinking back, shit, he did like

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like foreshadow this the whole time. Drag A Bozi was
more like, oh, for this arc, this transformation pays off
the whole Super Saiyan legend, and then after that you
get Super Saying two, Super Saying three, and then you
just leave that behind. Yeah, you know that year five
It's like, nah, bro, this is a ripple effect throughout
like this big story that is already like ginormous, it's crazy.

(01:18:56):
So like I see now like that you put the
Howling in this like kind of category. It's like when
you do a transformation. Because I was terrified as shit
during that American Werewolf and it's terrifying. But now I'm
excited to see this one because like I feel like
even the roles of.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
The werewolves were different because in American Werewolf in London,
we were watching who essentially was the protagonist turn into
a werewolf. But in the Howling, it puts you in
the places, it puts you in the shoes of that woman,
and you're watching the antagonist.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
It's like god Zilla minus one.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
You're watching the antagonist transform. So now you are being
threatened versus you taking this journey with him, watching as
he transforms.

Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
No, you're faced.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
With it like oh shit, like he's coming after me,
you know what I'm saying. The mood of it was
just that much scarier.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
All Right, So I think because we do have to
wrap up the show and a little bit now, last
thing I want to know is because again you're wearing
the shirt, and I gotta talk about the shirt. Bro,
what penhead? Why is he your favorite hohrriccharacter?

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
What makes him? He's scarce a shit out of me?
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
I I still have not watched hell Raiser because just
the vibes is off with that. I don't fuck with
the vibes at all. Right, I feel like if I
watch it, I might meet him for real? Right, I can't.
So what is it about Ben? You can educate me

(01:20:23):
a little bit about him, but just go for It's.

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
So it's like I just kind of like.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
Gravitated towards him, mainly because of the taboo nature of
that box art when I first saw it. Right, So,
when I first saw the box art, I said something
about that.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Looks a little wildly.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
Yeah, Like if you look at the it's his dudes
all white. He has needles in his head.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Don't like it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
He has like these like open rips in his chest
and they're bleeding.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Don't like it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
He's holding his box It looks like some serious is
sick shit? You feel me?

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
So it was that curiosity as a child, and I
was I was so scared to watch it. So when
I finally did watch it, I was just like, oh,
this is wild.

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
Yeah, it just got me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
And and what it is is Penhead is was so
different than other horror protagonists at the time, because think
about it, this is nineteen eighty seven, right, so all
we know at this point are either were wolves, zombies,
serial killer, some type of alien creature, mass murderers. Right,

(01:21:34):
you never saw a horror villain, never lay a finger
on anybody, you know, you never saw that before.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
Penna ain't ever touched nobody. Penhead, like Penhead is the
definition of fuck around and find out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Yeah, yeah that I do know that. I do know.

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
I actually made a video that went crazy viral last year. Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
It was called Horror movie Villains that won't fuck with
you unless you fuck with them, and Pitthead was on
that list. Just like candy Man, if you don't mess
with that box, you will never have to worry about Pinhead.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
But if you mess with that box, your ass is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
That's the only thing I know, is like if you
touch the box.

Speaker 5 (01:22:16):
But I love he's bad ass, Like do you know
how bad ass of a character you have to be
to literally bring hell to you? Like, no, I'm not
gonna take you, I'm not gonna come here grab you
and escort you to hell. No, no, no, I'm gonna
bring hell to you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
That's scariest.

Speaker 6 (01:22:31):
That's some scary shit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
I thought. I always thought he was like taking people
to hell.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
No, he brings hell to you?

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
How does he do that?

Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Pinhead will literally open this wall and split it in half.

Speaker 5 (01:22:43):
It'll be a chamber, and he will take you behind
that wall and the wall will close and you will
never be seen again.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
And then he and he and and and let's not
talk about the bars.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Wait, can you fight back?

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
You can try, You could try.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Anybody win.

Speaker 6 (01:23:07):
You could end up like Frank?

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
What the fuck is Frank?

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
Basically a freeze dried brain cell underneath the floorboard that
was only activated by his brother's blood.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Does anybody win in the hell?

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
Razor Pennhead does in the center? Bitesh?

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
What what's the point of it? Is there any like?
Is there any like conflict? Like Pinhead shows up, people say, oh,
we gotta get out of here. I'll fight back. This
penhad said, no, I'll get you. Some days. They tried that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
Around, like the third one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
There took three movies.

Speaker 6 (01:23:49):
Three, Oh, there's plenty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
No, it took three movies for someone.

Speaker 5 (01:23:52):
To try to what happened is they tried to give
Pinhead to Freddy Krueger treatment around like the third one.
They started making him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
They gave him personality and ship like that.

Speaker 6 (01:24:02):
And Pennhead was supposed to be very dry and stoic.

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
Yeah, like, yeah, I understand, I understand, like no expression,
just he's more of like a force of nature.

Speaker 6 (01:24:11):
Yeah, And it was it was his delivery, his his
his elegance. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
He wasn't like Jason running around Wilder Michael huffing, puffing,
you know, like Freddy Krueger talking shit.

Speaker 6 (01:24:24):
Pennhead would just show up, like.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
You know, there are many pleasures in his life, some
pleasures you suffer from, some pleasures you gained pleasure from.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
You have chosen the option of pain. Let's take a walk.
That's Pinhead. That's a terrifying shit.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
I'm scared of you, Jason, I'm running Pinhead, You're done.
He's standing there and he's just looking at you. First
of all, he has on a fucking dominatrix outfit. Yea,
with his nipples bleeding. I'm already terrified. Then it ain't
just him that you gotta worry about. It's the other
centibites you gotta worry about the chatterer, the fat worm,
dude with shades.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
He's got he's got a posse.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
They're called the Cento Bytes, the Cento Bytes. There's a
whole gang of of demons.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
And they just all chilling waiting to do some torture ship.

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
And the crazy thing about it is Pinhead was a human.
He was a man who played with that box, who
got to taken to hell and he was turned into
a center bite.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
And he just lived for this shit now you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
And it's so crazy because if you ask Penn here
what he is, he'll tell you, demon to some angel.

Speaker 6 (01:25:37):
To others, who is he an angel to? Do? You
know how bad ass of a motherfucker you have to be.

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
To be such a powerful demon that you're an angel
to some people. Oh my god, you're that powerful that
people see you as a.

Speaker 6 (01:25:54):
Come on, bro, come on man, fire all right?

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Bro?

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
I love Pinhead. It's like I'm tatted on my hand.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:26:04):
I love Pinhead.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I'm scared.

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
I love Penn. That's my favorite horror villain of all time.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
But you know what, man, Ironically though, in the book,
in the original so the book was written by Clive
Barker's called hell Bound Heart. That was what the movie
hell Raiser was based on. And ironically, in the book,
Pinhead wasn't really like the focal point of that book,
and he was actually described as and I quote directly

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and adrogynist being with a feminine voice. So the twenty
twenty two Hulu hell Raiser technically was actually more canon
to what Penhead should have been. And it's funny because
that got backlash making it a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
There they go again.

Speaker 6 (01:26:47):
They're gender swapping, they're being.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
Woke, and it's like, if you read the book, dumbass,
you would know that technically should have been a girl
from the beginning. The twenty twenty two hell Raisers suck still,
by the way, but I appreciate the fact.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
But that wasn't a yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
But that actually was legitimately in the book Clive Barker
actually wrote Pinhead as an adrogynist being with a feminine voice.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
See now I kind of want, like till the Swinton
or capelon Chat to play Pinhead. That'll be till the
Swinton is help is Pinhead?

Speaker 5 (01:27:17):
Yeah, Yeah, they got a hell Raiser game coming out
that's gonna be cool.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
Will be it will be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
I don't funk with that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
It just seems a little too to to to too
real for me.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
And uh you know what, Oh, did they ever have
a hell Raiser maze at Halloween Horn Nights?

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
That is a Honestly, this is my first time going,
so I can't tell you because they asked, But I
will say though, if they had a hell Raiser maize,
that would be like Wolf.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
We could talk about that on the show like mazes
as we want to see on your show. Yeah, but
we gotta get to it. So now we got to
end this episode of Get Records stried goofy. I think
this was like a damn near two hour episode.

Speaker 6 (01:27:58):
Yeah, we're like certified yappers.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
Yeah, we're certified you appers. We're gonna yap some more.
I gotta get my daughter a snack or something real
quick because she's been a good trooper outside. But Bro,
thank you so much for coming on man and drop
it up with your boy bro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
It's just been a long time coming man.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Yeah, man, we we got a whole another like forty
five to an hour to go.

Speaker 6 (01:28:14):
Yeah, we're gonnare gonna app a little.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Bit more levity yappity yap.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
Well, thank you so much guys for watching another episode
of Get Reck with straw had Goofy. Make sure you
guys follow along on whether it's Substax, Spotify, Apple, YouTube,
wherever you watch or listen to the podcast at and again,
as always, we got my boys.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Stony the Great, Sony, what do you wanna plug Yourselfwhere?
Where can we find you? Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
Here meep on TikTok, Stony the Great.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
That is Stony underscore the underscore great the it is
spelled with a thha, got a backstory behind that?

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
Instagram? Starting the Great? Uh YouTube? Starting the Great? Yeah,
I'm just basically starting the Great great everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Stowy the Great, Stardy the Great, Starty the Great.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Well, thank you guys so much for watching and it's
always Can I be your movie guy,

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