The Love Guru Sam Williamson

Willie D sits down with the esteemed love guru Samuel Williamson to talk realistic expectations in relationships, economic compatibility, finding true value in your life partner and much more. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 4 (00:27):
The rock out their heads and then blame it on us.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
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this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, Sam Williamson
the love guru.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
The so what's what's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Man?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
What exactly is a love guru?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
So you know I get that question all the time,
so people always ask me how did I come up
with that? So when I was in college, man, I
was the guy that if anybody had a question they
were going through any problems that girl left them.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
They caught that girl cheating.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
They would come to me and asked me, like, what
do you think they would ask my advice? So they
saw calling me love guru. So after then I just
thought I thought it was funny. So I just I
just took the name. I just kept it. So so
it happened when I was in college.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's so you got you the dude that the girls
called to. Oh yeah, so you got a lot of
home girls. That's these are not girls. You in relationships
with these women and some of them used to be
relationships with most relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So they called you to ask for advice.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
What's the advice that they ask you most that you're
most annoyed about.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
My thing is I only think I get annoyed about
is women when they lit in themselves like to theyself
a lot. And that's probably that's probably the biggest issue
when you talk about relationships.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
So I give you an example.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I remember we'll ask women like I had I forgot
someone had a show that was on and they're asking
about like if you were a high quality woman or
whatever you want to call it, right, So everybody has
their name. Now you know a woman of substance, high quality?
You know, I always say check all the box, whether

(02:26):
it's men or women. So we was asking this young lady,
she was an attorney here in Houston, and they're asking her,
could she marry or a data man that make like
forty thousand dollars? Right, So she said immediately said yes, right,
So now I'm looking at her. She got you know, Ferragamo,
this Louis Baton, nad you know, you know, probably had

(02:50):
La Perla underwear on, you know, you know, and she
said she can date a dude that's forty thousand, makes
forty thousand dollars, but as long as he's ambition, And
were like, well, how ambitious can he be if he's
making forty thousand dollars? So those type of lives that
you're telling yourself, you say, hey, you know what, I
can really deal with this when you know you can't.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
And it's okay.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's okay if you're an attorney and you want day
to do to make forty thousand dollars, because you shouldn't
because you two are not equally yoked at least economically,
you know, right, Well, what.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, just present the other side of that.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
At some point you was you had to make five
figures before you started making six figures, right, that's true.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
So and you was ambitious, yeah, yeah, but if you're
making she was forty some years old, so I would
imagine she would be dating a guy about her age.
If you're forty five years old making forty thousand dollars,
nothing wrong with that, because you may be a school
teacher or something like that, right, but you're what you

(03:56):
what you you you deem as import you know, it's
more about like the feeling you get out of teaching someone, right,
that's rewarding to you. Right if your attorney and the
lifestyle that she was living, you know, that's fine, But
she's more looking on the economic side, and at some

(04:18):
point in time that's going to clash. So anytime a
woman said I want to do that's making this type
money and ambition. Now, if she was twenty years old,
that would be different. She was twenty five years old,
that would be different. My first job when I got
cut from football, and it was funny, my brother just
asked me, He was like, what was your What did
you make on your first job? I'm made twenty for

(04:38):
J and J. I'm a twenty six thousand dollars in
a company car. I was twenty three years old, right,
that's a long time, you know, and probably by the
time I was, you know, twenty six, you know, I
was willing too high six figures. So I mean that
my girl at the time was had just came out

(05:00):
law school.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
She was an attorney.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
So that was cool with her because we was both
in our twenties, early twenties, and we was on our
way up. But she's forty five, and they say, you
will date someone that's making that type of money at
forty forty five years old.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
That's you lying to yourself.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
You said you played football, whenever did you get to
I went to camp with the Falcons, got cut.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
And that was it. Act free safety and strong safety.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
How did that affect you moving forward? So that's actually
a good question because I was engaged at the time,
So I was when I first got cut, I was
like I was distract because not even nothing the money,
it was just the whole lifestyle and stuff that came
along with it. I didn't feel like I got a

(05:48):
chance to live that lifestyle. So for probably the next
five years, all of my boys was playing, like you know,
Charles Woodson, you know Tyler, you know Keevy Baker, A
couple of my boys was playing.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Briggs.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
All these guys was playing so I was kind of
living vicariously through them. So my girls that she had
just finished law school. She had moved to Houston and
she was studying for the bar. Right so she would
be calling me like, Hey, I'm at the library. I'll
be home at ten. And she'd be like, where you at.
I'll be on my way to Miami, you know, like

(06:30):
did my fought the deal? Carter would be like, hey,
I got you some tickets at the airport. You know
what I'm saying. It is in Miami, So I'll be
in Miami. And she was just like I just took
her through a lot because I was trying to still navigate,
you know, where I thought I should be and where
I was. Was she a good woman?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Oh, she was a great woman. And you blew it?
Blew it. How long were y'all together? We were together
sixteen years? Where we broke up?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Tell the man out there, how do the and how
do you identify a good woman? And what qualifies as
a good woman.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So that's a good question too, but that that differs
from everybody.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
And if you don't lie to yourself. You'll find a
good woman for you.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right. So me and my boys we just had a
two hour conversation on Sunday about this because everyone's trying
to marry me out right, So I'm ready to get
marri you're gonna get married or you.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Married, will i've been married, or you're gonna get married.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm open.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I like, I like the idea of marriage, or at
least what is what it traditionally means, and what it
stands for and everything that comes with it.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, you know, absolutely, that's how I feel. I'm open.
So I so I've been telling them for the probably
the last three or four years. I'm in this space
where I want to get married, right, but I have
some strict criteria and I won't budge on you. Right,
So my chick has to be pretty. I mean I.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Was.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I wish that I could was one of those guys
that could get past looks and see that inner self,
see all the interviewing. I need a little bit of
that interviewing in the outside. I need no other worry
on the outside. So that sometimes people deem as superficient,
but it's not because the looks is what gets me. Right.
The personality is what keeps me right. So for me,

(08:25):
a good woman would be a woman that's you know,
very nice looking, right, that's loyal, right, that has accomplished
some things in life. Right, that's nurturing, you know, it's
family orientated, right. But you have to have a great personality,

(08:46):
Like I play a lot, you know what I'm saying.
Any woman that's every dated me know, Like thest one
thing they'll say is I keep them laughing.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
So you got to be able to laugh at yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
And if you're not a woman that can laugh at herself,
and you get a type of woman that can have fun,
if you're serious a lot, you're not gonna like it
because it's not who I am. Are you a player? Player?
Not anymore?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
But I would be lying if I said I didn't
have my play of days.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And that's how you blew the lawyer? Oh yeah, that's
how you That's.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
How he blew a lot of women.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Any dude with any money, any dude that's you know
of that that that got four or five dollars of
his pocket, charismatic, nice looking.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
They didn't brew.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
A lot of nice women over that time. So she
was probably the biggest one in my life. But I
mean that's other women that I blew uh, because I
had mature to the point where I understood, now this,
this is the deal women are.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Was like, how do you know when you want to
get married?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I always tell you know, a man wants to
be married when he understands what place a woman plays
in his life and what value she brings. Because in
the beginning, I really didn't even know that, you know,
I just knew I loved this girl and I felt
like I should be marrying her because I loved it,
but I didn't understand what part she was gonna play.

(10:06):
I was still trying to figure myself out. I remember
my first house I purchased in Houston, and I was
so bent on buying it on my own because I
didn't want to feel like a woman helped me do
anything right.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
And she used to be she had start.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Just started making some money as an attorney, and she
was like, I want to contribute. I was like, nah,
I'm good son, because I wanted to feel like I
did it on my own. And it was you know,
my first probably first ten pieces of property.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I about all of that.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I always wanted to feel like I did it on
my own before I had someone else help. So for
me to get married, that wasn't even a good time
for me to get married because I didn't even realize
what I needed from a woman to help me achieve
my goals because I was so hell bent on feeling
like I did it on my own.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
So once you did it on your own, Once you
did it on your own, and you got this house.
Now you're still with the lawyer, right, yeah, still with attorney.
He's still with the attorney. Okay, So she comes in,
and do she moves in? Did she move in with you?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
She moved in with me?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And so when she graduated at law school, she immediately
moved to Houston. I mean that's the reason why I
came to Houston. Okay, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Because she wanted to do all in Gas where she
graduated from Thirdgood.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
No, she went to No, she graduated from Marquette Law.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, so she moves in. Everything's good for a minute,
but you still a player, and you ain't got no
intention on slowing down. Now, at what point do you
slow down? At what point do you catch your snap
and say, man, you know what, I think I can
do this law thing do you think you can be
a lawyer? Lawyer man too, So when you get to

(11:45):
the point, So that's another question women always ask when
you get to the point when it's no fun anymore.
So me dating multiple women at one time, now it
would be it would be almost say a job, and
I don't need any more job.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I got a bunch of jobs right now, so that
would be the last thing I want. I would make
the joke that, like, now I'm at the point where
you know, when I was twenty five thirty five, if
you called me and was like, hey, it's one thirty.
Some girl called me at one thirty to be like, hey,
come over my house. I will be up dressed, over

(12:21):
your crib.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And then I might have a surgery. I might have
a listen, I might have a surgery at like start
at six thirty and seven.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
I'll be cold. I'd be like, So if I get.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Over our house at one thirty two o clock, uh,
we do it till like two forty five. I get
some sleep.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I can get three hours work to sleep. I can
do this.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Damn. Now you call me a one thirty in morning
talking come over your house, I'll be like, girl, I
got my bonnet on.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I'm sleep, So explain this surgery thing. Man, want to
back up? Are you serious? You won't you had a
bonnet on? I know, yeah, see you got I gotta
ask tell you.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I got asked. You know they're gonna be in the
comments like bonnets.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, So and what was I You know, women call
you ask you that you ask, Hey, I'm gonna come over.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
They'll be like, boy, you should have called me before
I got in the bid put my body th yo
put put I wrapped by her up. So that's what
I got. I'm trying to remember. What was that.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Man, before I went back to the bun.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
You said the surgery. You said, yeah, the surgery. So
explain to the people what it is you do. Why
would you be doing a surgery?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh? So?

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I So what I do is I'm gonna the easy terms.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I'm a device wrap right, but all my own distributorship now,
but I sell a product for a dominant wall reconstruction
and brush reconstruction. And what I do is my job
is to be in there and assist the surgeon if
he has any questions. So people always like, well, why
would the surgeon need you don't even know how to
do the surgery is the one that always to come back.
He does know how to do the surgery, but it's

(14:00):
it's your product specific that he needs to know about.
So I give the example my guys that do screws.
So I got a couple of pots that are distributed.
They are own distributors. They sell screws by my boy
Curly Johnson. So he's in every surgery right, because sometimes
a surgeon might drill too far in and you know
your product. You got to make sure you can get

(14:20):
him out of trouble because he's going to turn to you.
You know, if he's too far in with a screw
he's putting screws in your back, he's going to turn
to you. And you got to know the anatomy. You
got to be able to tell him what which way
to turn, what two to use, and everything to get
that out right, So you assist him.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
He knows the basics. So it's like kind of a mechanic.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
If you got a mechanic that works on has worked
on cars, have been trained up until two thousand and two,
twenty twenty two maybe right, and then they come out
in twenty twenty three or twenty four with a whole
new engine. Right, there's some type of REP that goes
and retrain those mechanics.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well, that's basically what reps do in the old. So
they're in there to answer any question.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Make sure the doctor doesn't get in trouble because if surgeons,
a lot of times surgeons make a mistake, they're not
gonna take it on themselves and say I made a mistake,
I did something wrong.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
They're gonna say your product was crappy.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Right. Are they going to just say that the person
took a turn for the worst. Yeah, but we're just
talking about implants. Yeah. Yeah, if they're doing the surgery,
yeah maybe. But if they're implanting something. That's a story
circulating right now. This woman who introduced her boyfriend to

(15:35):
her husband and other boyfriend. Yeah, I've said that's a
lot of that man going on. What do they call that? Polgican?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Man? What do you think about that? Is that?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Is that something that's doable in a loving relationship? And
is it sustainable for some people for women, for women
to do because typically men would the role would be
a man without multiple women. This woman has three men.
It just depends on the dude running up there.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It depends it depends on the dude destroying her. This
defends on the dude. Man.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I couldn't. I couldn't be in that.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Those dudes look.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Like the simps when they when she when she introduced them,
they embraced each other like they like like he was
a long lost friend or something.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So this is the deal with me. I don't want
to talk about anybody, but listen to me. They are simps.
Like you got to have a simple mentality for you
to even be in that situation. I just don't see idy.
And I know this is overused. I don't see a
lot of after men doing hunters. Man. Yes, I don't know.

(16:55):
I don't know any after men, but that have been
to the dawn of time were men. I mean, if
you look at even the animal kingdom, it's always the
alpha lion, right, and then he gets what he wants right,
and then there's whole slew of guys that mess with
the other lioners right, and they all take turns on that.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
But when the when, the when the when? The main
guys say would.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Get out the work? When when the apha, the male
enterprise say y'all, this is mine.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Don't nobody else touch them.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
So, you know, women would like us to believe that
you can be like that and still be alpha.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I just don't know that.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Just don't see me in a type of alpha mentality
to me. So they do seem like simps to me.
Can a woman participate in that type of lifestyle and
be respected not by other men, by the three guys
that she would but no other man would do that?
Other women don't even do it. I always tell women,
so you ask me stuff, and I say, women lie

(18:00):
to themselves. Other women wouldn't even like that. Like if
you if she told her friend that she was had
three dudes banging her, she be in bed with you
telling you how, you know, excuse my friends. Man? That
bit nasty as hell? You know, all them.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
That's what that's saying in my comments sex on Instagram
right right?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
They killing us? Right? They like all that bit nastiest hell. So,
I mean, if women don't like it, what you think
a man is gonna do?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
If they don't say, it's okay?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Right that because women tell all you gotta do is
hang around some women hear them talk, They by themselves.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
They tell you how they really fit.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like all that stuff that women say when they with
you and try to get you to buy into, they
don't think it their own selves because just like you
said in your comments, I bet you there's as many
women as men talking about her, dogging her about having
three sexual partners at one time.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
This is not It's just not how it is. It's
not how it's made.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Y know, women, it's just a difference when it's a
man to a woman as a woman to a man.
I know women want to make everything equal. Now you
got this Megan the Stallion and Cardi B thinking now,
But it's just it's not They don't even think like that.
You know, Cardi B talk about getting this money and
sucking a dick for free. I mean suck a dick

(19:24):
for money and sucking the dick for whatever she can get.
And she'll fuck your friend and your cousin's friend. But
she's sitting running up behind a dude that cheat on her.
So why would you sell yourself out like that? M So,
I mean I could. That's all I can tell you.
What if she was pretty, I don't care. She's pretty

(19:46):
and pretty go a long way with me. I don't
hate the currency is pretty. What if she was gorgeous
like drop dead bad to.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
The bond, I wouldn't like her and you could just
get I.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Would unless you get from her. Oprah probably could do
it to me like me and you in face. We
could hit Oprah because it'd be all of that's the
type of money and change your lifestyle for.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
No.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I really do have to be I have to be
attracted to a woman to do that, and I have
to have it was Oprah Man, I have to be attracted.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
To one billion Opra.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
The money don't mean money, don't mean that mean it
gets the money now. The money don't mean money money.
Money can't see your convictions cannot be compromised by money
under no circumstances, whether money is a dollar or a
billion dollars. If you have convictions, you stand. That's why
you have convictions, because you.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Stand on.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
So so everybody got that price, I believe.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't think so because I because I remember going
into the entertainment industry, and well before going into the
entertainment industry, then my brother we sleep in the bed
together up until we were in this our seventh grade.
He was eighth grade, and we used to have a
whole lot of talking and stuff. Man, just all these conversations,

(21:12):
and I remember us. I remember us one day talking
about life, like what we would do for money, and
we bet I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't sleep with
a man for money. I wouldn't kill my family for money.
I mean, yeah, that's so if you don't know what
you will do for money, you better know what you
won't do for honey. So I see that you do

(21:33):
know what you will do for money. We will sleep
with Oprah. I wouldn't because I wouldn't because I wouldn't.
I wouldn't because I couldn't get hard.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I couldn't. I probably would be in the same position,
but I would find a way. I couldn't get excited,
I couldn't get a riud. I'll find away with Oprah Dowg.
It would have for me.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
For me, it has to be a chick that I'd
be like, damn you, Oprah. For me, it would happen
to be a chick that I'm that I'm attracted to.
And you know, the trip part is this, like how
do you how do you reconcile making that statement about
you would sleep with Oprah for money and and then

(22:16):
tell a woman where you get what you get if
you sleep with a man from money?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Well, see, I don't if you're honest with it. So
if you, if you, if you so, cause it would
be I mean, I'm, I'm there's a little there's a
little levity there. This will be being a little facetious.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
But I know, I know this.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
If Oprah came to me and was like, yo, I
really want to dig you because I'm like you with
women like I have to be sexually especially now now.
When I was twenty two years old, if you was bad,
you know, it didn't take a lot. But now I
have to be really, really really attracted to you to
even want to be sexual with you at this point.

(22:53):
But Oprah that type of money, and she was like,
you got you get you know you got See I don't,
I don't. You can do whatever you want to do
with my money. I gotta be like, but I think
about that.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
But the thing is, Sam is that I from what
I gathered from check watching Oprah through the years, Oprah
is not for us. She's not for us, She's not
for she's not for black men. She's not even for
black the black family nucleus, you know, black women.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I believe that. I just watched her. I just watch
how she talked.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
To women and tell women, well, you don't need a man,
you know you can do this, and da da da
and all these type of things, like we need each
other no matter how much, no matter how much friction
we have, no matter how dirty one of us do
the other way, We're not going to survive without each other.
Like we can win a lot of we've we've survived
a lot of walls, but one war we cannot win

(23:59):
is a the walk. I agree we can't survive agenda.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I agree with that, but see it goes back time
to tell her about the little Cardi b and the
little Megaie stallion and how they wrap and the stuff
that they rap about and they're not really about that.
But I mean, Oprah, I mean, she's had stepping around forever.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
So he serves some purpose around. But he's there is
some purpose around. He had to cover.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Whatever it is. I mean, she need a man for something,
so even even if it's for cover, but she needed
them for something so and I think, I think, why
she need a man to cover for her. I mean,
I know you're getting that. I've heard people say that before.
We'll say what I mean. I've heard women say like,

(24:45):
she don't she don't really go that way and he
kind of her.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
What do they call that?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Uh No, they call something like when you got like
you you you go the other way. A lot of
those passes do yeah, I forgot whatever they yeah, right,
yeah exactly. But uh, I mean it's a lot of
it's a lot of women that do that nowadays, because
I think that they got past what their mothers was

(25:13):
trying to make when they were When mothers were like
when our mothers was trying to make our sisters independent,
they didn't want to make independent of men, right, That's
that wasn't the deal. I don't know whenmen went to
be independent of men. Independence came from you being able
to pull your own weight. That's that's what that's My

(25:33):
father taught my sisters to be independent, but not independent
of men. Right.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Independent he mean independent.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Where you go, you grow, and then you bring then
you're you're equal to whoever you want to bring in. Right,
so you know everybody come in, it's independent. You're independent.
I'm independent, right, But we still need women, right, So
you still need a woman, right. So I don't know
when this thing where it was like I don't need

(26:01):
men at all came about. I can't even I haven't
even researched it to tell you what year, because I
usually researched that stuff. Where it turned from being independence
and growth as opposed to independent, separate from from from
from men. So I think that's I think. I think
the message got hijacked at some point in time.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I think the message was purposely planted and everything's working
out just fine, you know, and the way that the
ol oligarky wanted it to work out. You know, these
the people that that try to destroy community put these

(26:42):
programs and initiatives in place. I can see that every
few years they got a new program to further subjugate us.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
I think when you look at rich families, they pushed
that to be married, like they want you to meet,
you know, you know, the Bushes want to mingle with
the Kennedys, and the Kennedy's you know, want to you know,
wringle with the mortgage and you know, you see a
lot of that inner exchange between rich families. So yeah,

(27:14):
I could believe that as long as you keep them
people below you separated, then you'll be able to control
the narrative, control whatever else you need to control, control them.
Actually got to boys reloaded podcasts which be right back
after the break.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Let me put you a scenario out there. I saw
this on.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
A video, another one of these viral videos. Should a
let's say a guy is a baby dag he had
as a child that he's bringing food to. This child

(28:04):
has other siblings that are not He saw that.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I saw that.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
He's bringing his child some McDonald's. Should he feel obligated
to buy food for the other kids who are not here?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
So that's the word obligation, Like he shouldn't feel obligated.
I would to be a nice guy. Right. And the
one you're talking about, he had done it before. It
wasn't like he had what if she has nine kids? Right,
she had done it before. Right, he is not his children.

(28:40):
He shouldn't have to do it every time, right, Because
I saw it growing up. So my buddy across the street,
my mother had three kids by my dad, and all
her all her kids was about her dad by my dad.
So I grew up in that type of house. I didn't.
I didn't know anything other until like I was probably

(29:01):
about nine years eight or nine years old, and I
started hanging it with my buddy across the street. His
mother had uh I think it was like eight of
them with four different baby daddies, right, so if I'm
not correct, for baby daddy.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
So I saw like he would like.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
There were some of her boyfriends that were coming buy
food for everybody, and there were some of her her
her boyfriend ever bring in stuff or not just not food,
but anything, like he brought toys or whatever. He tried
to bring everybody a toy, and then there were something
that would just drop off just for one kid, just
his daughter or his son. So I just kind of
saw that. I always always thought that was strange in

(29:43):
my opinion. You know, nine children to buy food for
it is a lot. You know, I don't care what
you got, but I don't I think the word obligation
is the deal. You know, he's never obligated to do that,
but take care of his child, you know, if you
want to be a nice guy, you know, you know

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she got other kids in the household.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
You don't want them to feel bad.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
New kids. You ain't my daddy that.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
He ain't getting get ship.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Then you know what I gave him one pride. Get
that nigga one pride. You know what I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I actually agree with that he shouldn't feel obligated. But
it is something that I would do. It was Yeah,
I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't even feel right. It
just wouldn't even if I didn't know the kids. If
I didn't it was just some kids. If my kid
was just around a group of kids, I would feel awkward,

(30:47):
right to just bring my kids and food knowing these
other kids are hungry.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I agree, I wouldn't feel I would like so like
my son have his friends around. I always pay for
everybody stuff. Like if I say, hey, grab your friends
go to the movie. I never be like, well does
little Jimmy have any money? You know? I just it's me.
I'm going to do that, but I don't. I don't
have to feel obligated to do it. I do it
because my son and his friends. But if his parents

(31:14):
started to feel obligated, like you taking your son out,
you should take my son, then that's where you have it.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
That's where you have the issues.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
As I said, if I'm not mistaken. In his case,
he had done it before, right, It was just that
particular time where he was just like, my son is hungry.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
So I would have asked my son to come out
the house.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Maybe we would have drove around the corner if I
didn't want to spend the money and then let him eat.
But yeah, I would that would be hard with nine kids,
that would be hard every time. I mean, just carry
just carrying a bag of food.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
You go, tell your kids, all right, come on getting
the car, your kid to get the stomach full, right,
and take him back home with McDonald's on his bread
with a full stomach.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
First of all, his son was one of the last kids.
I would never procreate with a weather that has seven Now,
I said, now, yeah, eight of the baby.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Bingo, bingo, because I was going to come around that.
I was going to come around to that.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And why do men do that, because I mean, you
grow up in that environment, it becomes as I told you,
like growing up, it was strange to me when my
parents got a divorced. Right, only other man I've ever
seen in my house is my dad. So when I
would go across the street to my boy Wheel's crib

(32:46):
and his mother would have like different boyfriends they would
spend the night. It would be the most foreign thing
I ever seen in my life. So it's always depending
on mentality and how you grow up always depends on
how you look at things. Did you grow up with
your dad in the house. So they got divorced when
I was like six, but my dad was always around.

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So like, was your dad a player? Oh?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Absolutely, So that's where you get it from.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I ain't gonna put it all on him. Yeah, I hey, listen,
I ain't gonna put it all on him. But I
mean I grew up in that environment. My boy, My
family is boy heavy. So we got probably more boys
in the family, especially on the Williamson side than we
have you know, you know girls, and the women catered
to them, like even my father and so all my

(33:34):
father and all his brothers died of cancer, every one
of them. And whether they had a wife or not.
My grandmother had two sisters. I'm sorry. My grandmother had
two girls and six boys, and them two girls took
her all those boys until they died, like whether they
had a wife or whatever. And my grandmother catered to

(33:54):
her boys. She my mother always said that was her
write this down, Williamson. Girls have them, cater them, and
that's that's how I grew up in a family like
that and my my father. They were very apha males.
Every one of them, every one of them own their
own businesses. Every one of them had a job, and

(34:15):
they also had side hustles, own their own business, hustled
all of that. So that's what that's to me. And
I grew up under right, So I don't know anything
other than that. So for me to go in and
see a one with six kids like that would be
a total turnoff to me.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I couldn't. I couldn't do that. What's your limit?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Kids? Wise? I would prefer one with no kids. And
I know that's wrong because I got kids, but I
would prefer with no kids. But if you do have
a kid, a boy that the age of my son,
and how old is your son? My son is twelve,
the young one, the youngest one is twelve, so at

(34:56):
least you know at least his age.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
What type of advice do you give your twelve year
old signed by girls?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It's crazy because he is girl crazy. So right now
I'm just telling him to seek out women that it's
going in that same direction.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
The girls is going the same direction. So we talk
about this all the time.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm like, because he had a little girlfriend that she
would like skip school, skip class classes with him and
stuff like that. Said, I'm telling you right now, man,
that's not the girl you want to be with. I'm
like already, like I'm like at twelve.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Years skipping class at twelve at.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Twelve at twelve, man, you will be surprised at what
these little kids are doing. So I'm like, man, you
need to be with the girls. He got I think
I name is Sophie. So it's one little girl named Sophie.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Where is Sophie going?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
No, No, she's not skipping class. It's the other girl
skips class. I forgot it going. Man, they'll go up
to the Starbucks and you know what I'm saying, or
they're just being a class. It just ain't I mean
in school, they just ain't. They'll find somewhere in school.
I did that in high school, not in junior high.
I did it in high school like that, but they're

(36:08):
doing it a lot earlier now. So but there's this
other little girl. He I told him. She played sports,
She played the piano, right, she she on the iron rod.
I'm like, dude, that's the chick that you should be liking,
you know.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
I was like this other one.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Now, I was like, don't even get yourself used to
take it easy. I was like, go for the hard one.
You know what I'm saying, don't do easy, I said.
I know, as a male sometimes and that's what gets
us in trouble. Sometimes we take easy instead of going
for hard. And that's that's that'll always get you in trouble.
That got me into it was he receptive.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
He I think he getting it. I think he's getting.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
It, you know. But I always tell him every morning
we do this ritual. I say, look in the mirror,
what you see and he gotta tell me, you know.
And at first it used to be rehearsed.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
You'd be I see smart kid, an intellectual kid, you know,
see a handsome kid. But now he's starting to speak
it like I'm like, because whoever you feel, whatever you
see looking out that mirror is the way you're gonna
drive yourself right. Even the mistakes I made, I always

(37:20):
knew I was saying Williamson because my daddy beat it
in his boy's head.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
He's like, you you the son of Maurice Williamson. You
know you this is how you roll. Brother. He's like,
that's how you do it. And so he always was like,
what you see when you're looking in mirror? Brother? You
know that's our father talk. What do you see? You're
looking at the mirror?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Brother?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
And I tell him and he said, well, did that's
how you That's how you should.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Be living your life.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
So whatever you see in that mirror is what you're
gonna do. So that's my biggest advice with him. I
want him to see what he feels that he's.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Gonna grow up to be.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Do you have conversations with him about loyalty and sexual assault,
loyalty to his girl, to a girl?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Not yet, because that's a little bit too deep. I
don't even even though I know at that age, because
I didn't call him in his pot just looking that stuff.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
I haven't gotten deep into the sex talk. Yeah you
should once he.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Turned Yeah, I mean I'm getting there a little bit,
you know what I'm saying. But probably next year we
need an eighth I know he's going to high school.
I probably have a deep, deep talk with.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
You should have the conversation before because he may catch
you off guard. You may think, Okay, now he's in
the eighth grade, but he just beat you by a
few weeks. Yeah, he just did something, you know, a
few weeks ago, and you're thinking that you're headed.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Ye, you're headed. He might be right. That might be
something I need to consider.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, because I started talking to my son very very Yeah,
because if you think about it, we can have a
much better We can have a much better like relationship overall.
We can have a much more conducive relationship amongst us

(39:06):
if we start talking to our boys and not waiting
on the girls to be you know, assaulted or or
about or whatever. If we talk to our boys about accountability.
We talked to our boys about respectability, and we let
them know. Like I told my son early, look like

(39:30):
as many as you want, date as many as you want,
but when you pick one, you pick one. Nobody ever
told me that I have to learn baptism through five
by five, I assured. And the same thing with sexual assault.
No don't only mean no, It don't just mean no.

(39:52):
It also means that you you when you follow that
that rule, you don't put yourself in a situation where
you lose your freedom, where you can lose your respect,
your reputation, your honor.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
You see. And so when I haven't had that specific
conversation with him, but I always talk to him about
like so when I talk about looking in that mirror,
I always talk to him about.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
How he sees himself right, and that GUIDs you right.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
So as a kid, So since you talked about me
and my boys always talk about what we got away
with then and what you can give away with now.
But that was one fundamental thing that I always had
to separated me for a lot of my boys is
I always thought like I always had, for the lack
of a better word, I just had a big ego.
So I never put myself in a situation where I

(40:46):
even felt like I had to do anything that remotely
came to sexual assault for the simple fact.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
I always like, if woman won't me, you know, she
gonna come to me.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I had that same mentality. But a lot of these
boys they don't know they're not being taught.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
And you have to be.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Purposeful about, you know, dealing with these kids and having
these conversations because you can't just think, oh, he'll get it,
he'll figure out. He already knows when you look in
the mirror, who you see respect, honor, courage, bravery and
you know, all of these things. But sometimes with all

(41:29):
the times, really you have to tell them what those
things mean and that type of actions that are consistent
with those titles.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
So if our boys, if we we teach our girls
to be virtuous and you know, don't wear those type
of clothes, don't wear provocative clothes. You know, be a lady,
don't be sleeping around, and d well, we gotta teach
our boys the same thing. Don't be sleeping around. Don't
be sleeping around. You know, be careful about the type

(41:58):
of girl that you pick. You know, because I preach
that the person that you picked, that you choose to
be in a relationship with, and specifically the one you
choose to pro create with and would be one of
the greatest responsibilities and decisions in your life, that person
who you choose to pro create with.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Absolutely because I've made some mistakes. So yeah, I agree
with you on that, and you know what, I'm gonna
implement that because I never really you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
When you when you when.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
They start hitting about twelve thirteen years old, you're saying
what's too early or what's too late? You know? And
now that you say that, I'm definitely gonna implant and
implement that in my daily discussion with him. Yeah. I damn.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
They don't even believe that it's that discussion can happen
too early, just for simple fact that if you think
about we teach our kids. We teach our kids about
money early on, real real early as early as three
four five years old. We teaching them, were giving them
a little small lessons about money. We teach them, you know,

(43:07):
about budgeting.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
We teach them.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
We we sew into them goals. If they have something
that they want to invent, some type of company they
want to start, we get right behind them and we
push him. I know a little kid that started investing
in stocks when he was eleven years old. His parents,
his mother specifically saw it in him early on. He

(43:34):
was asking questions about it, and moms, okay, well let
me go buy a book. Mom went and bought a book,
and she educated herself on stocks. She didn't even know
anything about stocks. But man, I gotta get that woman's
some praise. Man, that woman, she saw it in him
early on. This is what he want to do. Let
me go educate myself so I can help him get that.

(43:54):
So shots out to all the parents out there, who's
swing to your kids, who really.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Who really see the potential.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
In them and and and put them in in spaces
where they can actually blossom and realize their goals. Yeah,
you know that that I agree with because Cooper's had
some type of businesses he was seven years old, so
I definitely agree with you on that.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
So I mean that that's definitely see. So I learned
something today because I definitely was like when do I
talk have this deep dive conversation with and like he
crazy enough, so I don't ways put too much in
his head. But you know, I agree with what you say.
Got to boys reloaded podcasts will be right back after
this break.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
What what are you?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
What is the answer for all this bickering going on
between black men and black women? You know, how how
do we how do we have like health conversations to
where you see my viewpoint, I see your viewpoint. We
come together because we both understand that we need each other.

(45:09):
It's kind of like, you know, these companies exist because
of as a relationship and there's a certain level of
respect that they have for their employees, and employees got
to have a certain level of respect for the company
and their supervisors and so on and song. So the

(45:29):
company is not gonna just shut the doors. They're gonna
find somebody that fits the model, their work model, right,
and they're gonna continue to grow and advance.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
So we don't really have a choice but to figure
it out. How do we figure it out? What's like
one of the first steps, like having honest conversations. That's
the biggest thing. I think that's the hardest thing for
people to do and be honest with themselves. You know,
last time we was on here, we was talking.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
About, uh, what's his name, Samuel Kevin Samuels, right, And
it's funny I always tell to women and they're like, oh,
you think like Kevin Samuels. I was like, I actually
think like, you know, love Guru saying Williamson. But I
do understand some of the things that he did. But
one of the biggest things that he was saying that

(46:20):
he did it in a way that sensationalized his his
his his point of view so that he could get
you know, monetize it. But what he was saying was
everybody needs to be honest with themselves. Right, and if
people are more honest with themselves, like there's there has
became a time that everybody wants to be paid three
times what they worth, right, And people women sometimes, I

(46:43):
mean have sometimes have a problem with really giving theirself
a critical look at herself critically and being honest with
themselves about who they are. Right. I think if people
start to do that more have honest conversations about who
they are, I think that me against you thinking would
go away, right because people would be more willing to

(47:06):
you know, and I hate to say like like use
the terms that he was using, but like, you know,
if you're a seven and you should be with a seven,
if you honest with yourself, that's nothing wrong with that, right.
The problem is how the world has you know, evolved
in our environment as involved in us, you know, telling
women they should be you know, they all tense. It's

(47:27):
funny like you as any woman she a ten, right,
and you should think you're the greatest person in the world,
but you should also be be honest, you know, so
I give I put it in sports analogy. I was
talking to my son about this recently. I was like,
in sports I knew what I could do when I
couldn't do right, So I became Because I was never

(47:48):
the greatest athlete growing up, my cousins was better. You know.
I had to do some cats on the street that
was better. You know. Matter of fact, the whole hit
the street was better than me as a kid in sports.
But no one got a scholarship, right. I was the
only one that got a scholarship, got my college. This
is what my father paid zero. But I got that

(48:09):
because I knew what I was good at, right. I
know I was a hitter, right, so I know I
was a hitter. I tear your head off, I did.
So I did that to the fullest extent. I wasn't
a guy that was gonna be a lockdown corner, you
know what I mean. I wasn't gonna be the guy
that I was gonna catch all the figuretip catches. So
because I concentrated on what I knew, bruising people, trying

(48:32):
to hurt the other person, it took me a long way.
You know what I'm saying. It's the same thing you
look at somebody like, you know, did his Robin and
your boy with the Golden State right now, Draymond Green.
The reason why Draymond Green is great, it's not that
he'll give you ten points of thirty points. He knows
exactly what he does well, right, and that's rebound costs

(48:56):
had it.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Giving people's head all.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
He is a modern day robbing, right, And because Robin
knew what he was, he revolutionized that specialized a rebounding.
I was never a person that did that, right. So,
because if you know who you are, then that's what
you go for. That's that's how that's the limits you set.
You know, that's what you get for yourself when you

(49:18):
think that you should be here or you here, you know,
a vice versa. That's what everything gets mixed up, right,
And that's where people have problems. Women have problems because
I think women have more problems with it than men.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Because we taught who we are they want.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
I was I was about to say that because I
know that a guy who doesn't make good money, like
really good money.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Even told that he's he's he's going to be told that.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
He believes that, and so he don't He's not going
to go try to go get a holly berry, right.
He knows that. Look that that's how my pay scaled.
But a woman could be like, you know, that's that's
set in that six or whatever that you talk about
that five, and she thinks she can go get you
know that she could go get that she deserves.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
So if you think you deserve a tad, you know,
even though you never get it, you still feel that's
you're still shooting for that.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Right and you're still looking down on the guy exactly,
that's actually where you are.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Right, That's how you miss out. And that's what he
was saying. And that's what I always say. So if
you be honest, like that's the hardest thing, the hardest.
That girl asked me this recently. She said, what do
you right? She said, what do you think you are?

Speaker 4 (50:35):
So?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I said, I'm a strong eight.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
She was like, you eight a ten? I said, I
lose these fifteen pounds.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I pushed myself over to I said, I pushed myself
until eight point five. I was like, you had another
zero in my name, I'd be a nine nine and
a half. But the eighty percent of anything is great. Like, hey,
she was like, why would you not? I was like,
because I'm honest with myself. I was like, I think
I'm an extremely nice looking. God, I think I'm very telligy.
I got swagged, right, I said, but people to be

(51:03):
at an eight eight point five?

Speaker 4 (51:05):
I mean that's pretty, that's pretty honest with myself. All
you got to do is go get some of that
open money.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Right, go go put me out of ten.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
But see, but see a man could be honest with that.
With that, I make magnificit money. I've done very well
for myself, right, But I know if you put me,
you give me jay Z money. You know what I'm saying,
Because jay Z is not the nicest looking guy. But
I don't think no woman wouldn't say his total package

(51:34):
and a team with most women? Will you know most?
He probably get most women if he wanted to, Right,
I said most, I say all, because there's always that
one Chiger I wouldn't. Okay, I get you. I'm saying
he would get most, he would give most women. But
men could be more critical of themselves. Because she just
felt like I should have said I was a teen.

(51:54):
I was like, but I'm not. You know what I'm saying.
Eight point five? Man, that's I'd go anywhere to cut
tree with that. You know what I'm saying. Can't go
any where. The country will dominate. Yo, you used to't
get a ten and get nine tens. I'll mean, you know,
it ain't too many of them in the world, you know, So,
I mean that's the d I think I've never met
a woman. Say, well, let me take that. I've met

(52:16):
a couple of girls. Say when you ask her and
they gave them a they gave you a legitimate, somewhere
in the area number. When you say, you know, I've
talked to a girl that was a six, it was like, oh,
I was ten. I was like, on what date? What
more than, what type of makeup did you? You can't
be a six of your ten, There's no way. But

(52:39):
and that's how she carried herself like she was a ted.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
How do you feel about women? That women makeup? So
that's crazy. So I used to date a makeup artists, right,
and on the surface, I hated makeup. I once again,
my mom didn't marry word much makeup. The family I

(53:02):
grew in, the women didn't wear much makeup. So I
was I'm not a.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Great fan of makeup. Well, let me take that, but
I'm a fan of makeup. You put on makeup to
enhance your beauty. And that's a whole difference than having
a beat face trying to cover it up. Having a
beat face is something totally different.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
You know, putting up, putting a little you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
You know, you line your nose a little bit, you
can contour your face a little bit or whatever, you know,
a little foundation, you know. But you know, when you
got the whole layers and layers and your nose is
you know, your nose this why But after you get
through it looked like it looked like it's that big.

(53:47):
That's just just too much because it's just hiding who
you are. But I mean, I don't really like weave.
So every girl I've ever had they took up. I
made him take the weave out while we would date.
Every check I've ever had took the weave out that
if she had we.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
What would have happened if one of them decided I'm
not taking the weave out. I'm talking about one of
them that you really really liked, you was in love with.
Which one did you did you find? Did you fall
in love with it before she took it out of you?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Better? So that's a good question because the girl was
that was a makeup artist used to work like, and
what's crazy is she was more beautiful without the makeup,
like when she do the fresh face. Oh she was
very hard to tell it convinced woman that she was
stunning with this fresh face, but like she put up

(54:37):
all the makeup or sometimes you I was like, like
we would go to my corporate function. I was like,
she was like, well, I word it because trying to
sell it. Yeah, because she said this is my business.
So I got that. So to ask you a question,
I fell in love with her. I want to marry
this chick, and I accepted it. So I don't know.

(54:59):
I just don't like weed. It just feels like it
feels like Easter egg hurt on your chest or so
when I Easter egg, he's the egg grass when you know,
you know, eas the egg grass like that Easter egg
grass when you put it on your chest. So I
don't I don't really like. I don't really like weed.

(55:20):
But as I said, I I fell in love with
this chick with it, So I don't know. I just
know I don't like the smell of it, none of it.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
What do you think about that millionaire soccer guy who's smart?
Who I played he's smart his wife or his former wife. Listen,
it's a strange wife and put all of the assets.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
I said that to all my boys.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Is married. So I think he a smart, a very
smart guy. So I remember, I don't know if I
told you that. Me and you was talking one time.
I was telling my uncle came to me. Now, this
guy has been worked since he was seventeen years old
and a mass of little small fortune, right well off,

(56:08):
retired at fifty five, can do whatever he want to do.
So he got married when he was sixty. And he
came to me and he asked me, he said, should
I do a prenup? And I was just like, hell yeah.
I was like all the sweating tears you did? I

(56:28):
mean because he wasn't a guy that got it because
made that money. Because he just had a great, a
super high paining job. He sacrificed a lot, paid a lot,
made good investments, didn't mess off his money. So when
he had fifty five, he was straight. You know what
I'm saying. He sacrificed a lot, He deprived his stuff
of a lot. My uncle was so cheap he was

(56:51):
when of those uncles like he would know what the
temperature was because I grew up in the Midwest where.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
And he come in and it was hotter.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
He'll go, look at you, look at the thirdst stat
what the thirdstats say? That's that's who he was, he said,
He said, what was what you go? What should I
do if she get angry? If I say she got
side of prenup? And I said, I said, uh, the
prenup only matters that she don't love you anymore. That's
what you tell him. I said, the predn up only

(57:21):
matters if you don't love me anymore. As long as
you love me, were good. So I think he felt
like that too, like as long as we in love,
it didn't matter. It didn't because I'm I'm pretty sure
she had access to all the money. Anywhere they went
was paid for it. She lived the lifestyle. He gave
her the lifestyle. It did not matter until she wanted

(57:43):
to take half this man money. So I think it
was smart. Yeah, and and and and friend of mine
sent me some better. I don't know if you see
this one. I forgot who's a billionaire, but he took
his wife. They been married forty two years. She's probably
about fifteen, twenty years younger than him, and they was

(58:06):
married like twenty five years something like that, was married
like twenty twenty five years, and she she went to
go did a divorce and they had been divorced since
the fifth year.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, he took it at dr No.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
No, No, they had they had been they had been
divorced since like the six months, the six month.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Yeah, he took it to the DRR. Yeah, and divorced her.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
But they was together.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
They lost together twenty years. They were together twenty years
and then she filed for it. This was a younger woman, right,
And she filed for divorce after twenty years. And he
said that he divorced her then because he knew that
eventually she would leave him.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It's a cold game, man, It's a cold game. It's
a relationship. Do you ever get any pressure from from
women when you state your opinion because you're this guy
who uh is a basically relationship guru. Your love guru

(59:06):
is that anytime when you meet a woman and you're
interested in her, you want her to be interested in you.
But she's she's hesitant, she has some trepidation because of
your your reputation.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean you anytime you a
guy that's been out here for a while, I mean,
you're gonna deal with a little bit of that. I'm
what I'm talking about, mainly just just knowing that, OKAYU.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
I've only had that one one time.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah. Actually just recently I had too man, bad bad
and she just didn't trust you. She's just like, she
don't like dudes that be all on Instagram and doing
talk radio and you know, podcast. And I was like, Okay,
I ain't mad at you. I have a big personality.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I was like, baby, you know, if you don't like it,
then you don't like it. I can't do nothing about it.
So I never upset if some woman doesn't like something
about me. I'm like, I'm glad she got it out
early on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
There's a lot of advice that you that obviously that
you can offer for people that are in relationships, are
people that want to enter into relationships. But one of
the most significant pieces of advice that you can share
right now, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Telling you it all boils now that people don't lie
to themselves about anything anything. I was talking to a
friend of mine and she was telling me that her
husband had died, right, and then she said that she
wanted a relationship with this type of guy, right, but

(01:00:44):
she don't like that type of guy. I was like,
you like jazzy dudes, Like you like dudes that like
when they walk in the room, everybody pay attention to them.
And she was like, but I've had that, and I
loved my husband when he died, but you know, we
had issues, blah blah blah. I was like, but you're
not gonna be happy with that other dude, so you'll
be lying to yourself, right, Ill be like, you'll be

(01:01:07):
lying to yourself. You get that other guy, it'll be
good for the first couple of two or three years,
but then all of a sudden, you'll be resorting back
to the guy that you wanted. That's why so many
women are happy that's married. Like, do you know how
many women cheat that's married? Like it's ridiculous now, because
I believe my hypothesis is most women married for the

(01:01:30):
wrong reasons. One of the things is most of the
women dudes that they marry men. Me and my partners
had an argument about this. I would say, and I'm
gonna ask you this question, do you think that most
people are married to the man or the woman that's
their first choice.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
No, absolutely not, because I know as far as like
with women. When it comes to women, women marry men
that they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Can live with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yes, so okay, they want to be with him, but
I ain't gonna be able to live with that, right,
I can live with him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I want, I really want to be with him, but
a lot of women pay attention to him or I
want to really I really want to be with him,
but because of his money, then I would have to
deal with this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
But they really like that. I respect the girl. She
this other girl I was talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
She was just like, Oh, I already know whatever man
I married ain't gonna be totally right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
She was like, cause I like those type of dudes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
So she was like, so if I'm married, I go
into it knowing that that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
But is she also going into it with the idea
that she's gonna cheat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
That he's gonna cheat, that she gonna I think I
think she's gonna be lawyer. I think she would be.
There's some women that accept it. I mean, you know
there's women out there, you know, I want to put
it on athletes and irritators or anything. But I mean
the lifestyle. It You're privy to a lot, right, So
if I'm if I'm married, you know, Willie deep, like

(01:03:00):
when Willie d was the hottest ever. You know what
I'm saying. Women was coming everywhere at you. Right, So
even though you might have been the type of guy
that'd be like no, no, no, that's very hard for
most people.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
So we'll see, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I wasn't well see there you go. Uh you know,
I wasn't. I wasn't easy, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
I was easy on the ones who were easy on
the eye and had and had good personality, the ones
like like So that was women who were very very attractive,
very attractive, but they had stink attitudes. And I've never
been a type that could get excited by by a

(01:03:44):
woman who wasn't principled, right, you know what I'm saying,
Like women who wasn't like like, who wasn't really about something.
I never liked women who looked down on other people,
who thought that it's fine if you think that you're
you're you're in the sense that I'm not a better
human being, but I'm a better person because of the
way I carried myself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
I have character, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
But to look down on someone because of their lot
in life and you know what they have or what
they don't have, you know, I just like I'm better
like that, And I never liked those type of women.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Never. Now. How about expectations though, in regards to what
so so so does? Expectations sometimes get mixed up with
like someone looking down on you, expectations in regards to
what would look like lifestyles you like. So, So I

(01:04:40):
was telling buddy mine, we was talking about this when
I first well not when I first moved here, but
probably about two thousand and five or whatever. Uh my
all my prothems from Saint Louis. They moved here and
I met this girl named Erica. I forgot erica last name.
Kevin Lowes is so it's Kevin Lowles's wife, right, So

(01:05:04):
I met.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
You talk about Kevin Lyves in Houston or Kevin Lowes
the record exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
The record is that, OK, so I met his wife
like in Miami, and you could clearly see that, like
it was just something different about her, right, you could
clearly see that. So we was down in Miami together,
and uh, you know, I went up there. Macdonod was like, hey,
come holl let me you know I did. So we

(01:05:31):
was talking on the phone, but I could tell it
was just something about her that was just different than
than you know, every other woman. And she was just
super classy, right, and you could just tell a by
the jewelry.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Everything about her was just it was elegant.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Right. So I remember she came to visit and tell
your story. I remember she came to visit and, uh,
my buddy used to throw parties at the Saxo Fifth
Avenue restaurant. It was fifty something something before you know
what I'm talking about the restaurant and they used to
be upstairs before they redid sacks. And he was every
for his birthday every year he would throw this like

(01:06:05):
seven course meal, you know everything, free liquor, premium.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Across the boy. He would just killing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
So I told her to come in town, but I
knew she was coming in town for the question that
she was asking me to see how.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
I was living.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Right, she came in town. She walked in the door
and I remember my buddy turned to me and say, oh,
you guys, give me that he was He was like
a hustle dude. You know what I'm saying the street dude.
So he was like, you must give me that, and
I said why. I was like, I got made great money.
He was like, I'm looking at adult like you don't
have that type of money, right, So this was probably

(01:06:44):
you know, I'm still on my way up. He was like,
he's like, she got a burking You said that bag
she got. I was like yeah. He was like, that's
a burking bag. So that's one of the big ones.
That's fifteen eight ggs at the time. He was like
he was ten and fifty eight g's. I says, so
who bag, Like that's a burket bag. And see, by
that time, I didn't know what a lurking was, a

(01:07:04):
burker or slurker that. I was like, I ain't gonna
get but none of that. So he was, oh, yes,
burker bag. He said, I bet you she wear a
La parlel underwear. I was like, what the fuck is
lat Perarl underwear? He was like, oh, it's you know,
a bra costs you one hundred and fifty dollars, right.
He's like, remember that box I had delivered to the
house and all that I waside for my wife.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
I was like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
He was just like, oh that box, Alan was like
fifteen thousand dollars. I was like serious, he was like yes.
He was like, I'm telling you, I'm looking at it.
He was like so because my partner, he was the
one that tad I had a part of the Fat Cat.
He went and taught me about all like jewelry, watches,
all that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
So I walked up to her.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I was like yo.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
I was like yeah. So I was like talking to her.
I was like, yeah, you're lucky, right, got a little.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Little parlel you see he tell you know about a
little pearl. I was like, you know, I'm just that
type of player, you know. But her expectation, so as
we got to know each other, she was just like
I don't want to marry. She's like, I think I'm
better than just marrying a dude that make two hundred
thousand dollars a year. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
She was just like not that. Let me just straighten
that something real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, you're talking to her before she married Kevin, before
she married Kid, just before she married she still married Vin.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
She's married to Kevin this day.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
So at the time, she she was messed with Katino
Mobiley She had just stopped dating Katino Mobile and was
engaged to what's his name, Sean Mary and played basketball
for Phoenix, right, So she was just like I just
she was just like, this is the lifestyle I want.
This is what my expectations for myself is. She was

(01:08:44):
at the time, she was a VP, no VP, but
a manager for Jay and J Pharmaceuticals, right, regional manager,
a district manager. So she was just like, I worked
hard to get here, and this is what I expect
my life to be now. I said that to rap
it all in about the expectation. I never felt bad
about that because I was just like, I feel you,

(01:09:05):
I'm not there yet, So you got to get that, dude.
That's that's that's there, right. And I think she dated
Puffy's lawyer and then she married Kevin Lyles and everything.
All her expectations of what she thought for herself is
what what she did. So some men would have probably

(01:09:26):
got mad and been like, oh, well, you're looking down
on me, right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
I never felt like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I just felt like that wasn't I wasn't her expectation
at that moment or whatever she was. So that's why
I was asking you when you say, you don't like
a woman that looks at somebody like they're better than them,
but that maybe can be misconscrewed as someone that feels like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
They just have a different expectation. No, no, no, no, no no.
I'm talking about women who look down on people, period.
I'm not even talking about men. I'm talking about women
who would look down on another even looking down on
another woman. They're a human being.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
But don't you think she felt like that when it
came to anybody that wasn't what she felt like was
on her level.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Yeah, but what I'm what I'm saying. What I'm saying
is that there are people human beings who think they
should don't stink, right, That's what I'm talking about. I'm
not talking about money, clothes, who I'm talking about as
a human being. I'm talking about it some people. It's
some people who would look at I don't know, look

(01:10:27):
at a bus drive and say, oh he's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
You know, you're nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
You can get it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
It ain't boy, it ain't about it ain't about you
wanting to date me or you're trying to holler at me.
It's just like, oh, you're a bus drive. You nobody
that's what that type of personality, you know, like, I'm
not with that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I get what you said. I get that part, but
sometimes expect I do feel like sometimes people feel like
if their expectations is greater than yours, they feel like
you think they're they're better than you. Well, they might, right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
But just might be they might they might in their
head might be because I would never concede that anybody
is better.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Than right, I'm saying they might feel like that. Yeah,
I just feel like I never felt bad because I
felt like, that's your expectations, right. So I never felt like, oh,
you know, because we used to argue about the whole
money thing, Like we have discussions about the whole money thing,
and she's be like, Sam, I just expect to be here, right.
So I used to be like, I feel you right.

(01:11:30):
I was like, and I and if I meet somebody
like that, I'll hook Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Did you feel any pressure to perform to get it,
to get hurry up and get there? No?

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
I never was that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I would just say you're not you catch next catch
the next bus. Yeah, I catch you. I catch you
when I get there. And a lot of times when
you get that YO want to mess with him a
little more anyway, you know what I'm saying. So that's
been me since I was a kid. Are you? Are
you messed with him?

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Just as it out of the way again, keep it
moving right, yeah, oh absolutely, Ladies and gentlemen, Sam Williamson,
the Love Guru is about to exit the building. What
you got going on?

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Man? And how can people get in touch with you? Well,
you know always you can hit me on Instagram at
love Guru eighty one. So that's the that's the that's
the best way to get me. But people been saying
they love my podcast when I'm on someone else's podcast
and stuff. So I'm about to start trying to put
me a team together and kind of do something myself,

(01:12:36):
you know, Are you and I could just keep doing
these yeah? Yea love things? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Well I can definitely have you back on man, you know,
because you know, I always like to get your perspective
on things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Absolutely, absolutely, I appreciate you. I always love the conversation man,
No more talk.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Yeah.

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