July 1, 2025 • 46 mins
Alise Morales is a comedy writer, performer, voice actress, and podcaster. She is currently the co-host of the Go Touch Grass Podcast
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm like emotional, this is really, this is really I
didn't expect it to like hit so hard so fast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh my God, tell your mommy that everything will be okay.
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with Desi's loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy. Thank
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you so much for being here. I'm Paula Pedrosa. Today
we talked to this such a sweet girl. Her name
is Alice Morales, and she was kind of a skeptic,
well not a skeptic, she just never done this before
and well it went really well, even like she got
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in touch with her grandma's and the grandma's gave her
ideas for shows. She's a writer and she's a comedian
and they actually gave her ideas. I mean, is this
crazy or what? So if we see it one on
the air sometime, we're gonna be like, Okay, I'm gonna
need some money from that. I'm gonna because I told
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you about it. So here's Alise Morales. Thank you for
being here. Hey, guys, welcome to ghost Therapy. This is
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Paula Pedrosa and we're almost getting to the end of
this season. I think we've had a wonderful season. I've
learned a lot. I hope you have too. Today we
have Alice, Alice, Alise Morales. Hi, Alisa, how are you.
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm really excited for this.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Have you ever done this before?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
No, not anything like this. I went. I've had my
tarot cards read a couple of times, but never anything
like really in this world at all.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh, I like newbies. Yeah, I like it. I like
it because it's a little bit different from the tarot,
but it's similar in many ways. So you'll see, you'll see. Yeah,
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, So, okay, I'm kind of torn between my two grandmothers.
I'm not I'm not sure if it could be both.
It could be both, yeah, okay, for sure, Rose, who's.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
My mother's mother, passed.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I guess it would be more like two thousand and
two because I think I was around twelve, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And then my.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Grandma, my dad's mom, Misoda, she passed when I was
already in my like mid twenties.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Mid twenties. Yeah, okay, perfect, Okay, then you have perfect recollection.
Of her, both of them. Yeah, that's good. Okay, I'll
be right back. Let me see my let me say
my prayer. Would one of them makes sense that they
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would say, oh, so much happened. I can't I couldn't
remember a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh that would That would be my grandma Rose.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, perfect. Then I think she got here first. She'd
me so to these Okay, she's laughing because she's like,
you know what, even better, No.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
That makes a lot of sense for her to say too.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's like, you know what, I didn't have to say anything.
I didn't have to get involved. You know, everything happened.
So she's she's happy about that. What she's she wants
you to know that now she knows how hard it
was to kind of not deal with her, deal with
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her sounds pretty ugly, but to like, you know, take
care of her. I guess she didn't realize it that much.
But she's so thankful because she didn't know how much
of a of a pain it was.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You know, she had Alzheimer's at the end, and there
was a lot of family drama between my mom and
her siblings that coincided with that time. And so what
you're saying makes a lot a lot of sense. And
my mom always said that she she was kind of
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happy that my grandma wasn't able to fully absorb all
of the sibling drama that was happening. So to like
hear that from her in this context is like, oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I know, yeah, she does it because they're so perfect
and everything they already forgave, they already you know, they
know what happened now, but you know they forgave, they forgot.
Everything's good with her. You know, there's no grudges, there's
no grudges, and she even laughs about it, you know, like, oh,
thank god I was there for anything. But yeah, yeah,
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she's at peace with everything, and she's only thankful for
you know how hard it was probably taking care of her,
and she's thankful. No kind of saying I'm thankful no
matter what. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Really good to hear. Yeah, yes, I know my mom
would want to know that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, especially your mom, because I feel your mom was
was her I don't know, like the protector, the advocate,
the I don't know, like something around those lines.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, my mom is the oldest daughter, and because of
this family drama that happened. I don't think my mom
was able to be as involved in her day to
day care as she wanted to be because we were
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a little bit further away.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And I think that that like weighs on her a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Got it? Okay, Okay? Did Grandma Rose have a son?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, she's got a couple sons.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh, a couple.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, there are definitely a few in the may oh okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Because she wants to talk about one of them. Let
me tell you, let me describe them to you. She's saying,
like in a very forgiving way, like very nicely. She's like,
don't worry about it, like something about he is who
he is. I don't know if it's somebody you know
that you guys probably didn't as strange.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, a strange.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yes, my uncle Danny, I think is probably who she's
talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, okay, but you know what I feel like, I
know it must be very hard on everybody to be
a strange from a brother. That must be really hard.
But the way Grandma's saying this is the way that
let him like let him be m h And nothing
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you will do or nothing you will say, will change him.
It's more about him looking for the change, you know,
him looking for everything, and that maybe won't come easily
for you guys, but it will have to do with
a lesson life lesson for him.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, that sounds about right for sure. Yeah, that's really
interesting because it's there was a big my mom's one
of six right around the time that my grandma was
passing and all this was going on. There was just
a big schism between all of the siblings and most
of them have come back together in some capacity except
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for him.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, And it's definitely kind of to what you're communicating
to me. Like I think, especially with my mom, if
he wanted to have a relationship with her, my mom
would be so open to that. My mom is really
really interested in getting everyone back together, right. He seems
very fixed in his anger in a way that it's
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hard to yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Even know, even if if it were to even let's say,
your mom gets them all together, you wouldn't be in
the right in the correct frequency, all of you at
the same time, you know, and you know, at different
times in your lives, different problems, different everything, and everybody.
It's kind of she's kind of like saying everybody, every
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one of my my you know, my children got a
different version of me, you know, so I think it
has to do with that, and nobody has to feel
guilty because you know that's how it was.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, I'm like emotional, This is really, this is
really I didn't expect it to like hit so hard,
so fast.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh my god, I'm so glad. I'm so glad to
tell your mommy that everything will be okay. I'm sure
she's sad about it, but everything later on in life,
when everything changes, when yeah, he'll have he'll have an awakening,
kind of a rude, bad one, but it won't kill him,
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you know, it will just make him stronger, make him better.
And then we go about it. Okay, yeah, okay, perfect,
did we Soura in a way always? I don't mean
to air your dirty laundry or anything, but did we
so always sleep in a separate bed as her husband?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But Perfect, there's a chance that I wouldn't one hundred
percent know about that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right right, right right. This is why this is why
she brings it up, because there's something about she's like
very practical. I don't know, she was like very you know,
and she says the key to a good marriage is
to never sleep together or to have separate bedrooms or
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something like better separate separate beds.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's very interesting that she would have a message to
me regarding marriage because I'm actually separating from my husband
right right now, okay, okay, and I in like seeking
guidance to that. I often kind of like energetically call
out to both of my grandma's in a way. So
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it is interesting to me that she would have a
marriage related message for me.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But maybe she has, she has a little bit more.
But that was funny. That was funny.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That is very funny.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean, I know that my grandfather that she was
married to was a was a difficult person person.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So maybe it's like not living separate lives, but living
like respecting everybody, you know, yeah everything your own face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I agree. Your separation seems to me like it has
to do a lot with I don't know if it's
you belittling his opinions because you don't understand them at all.
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It's kind of like, uh, what what are you talking about?
Like that kind of energy? Does this make sense in
a way?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I would say, I mean it certainly has a lot
to do with the two of us not seeing eye
to eye about like very basic reality type stuff, like
we just really got off the same page and we
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couldn't get back to the same page.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's very that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, I do think that I lost a lot
of respect for him in the time that we were
having a lot of difficulty, and then we just don't
see eye to eye about the world anymore in general.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, because I feel like you're turning the other way,
like I, you know, I don't know what you're saying.
I don't know what you're talking about. It's like like
dibber dabber, you know, like whatever he says, like it's
Chinese to you.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, I would definitely say yeah that, like when
it doesn't the stuff he says to me doesn't ring
true to me. And I feel like we live in
two different realities often, and I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Believe that your grandma, I think this is this is Rose,
Grandma Rose. She really agrees with you separating. She believes
you've made the right decision. Yes, yes, because I imagine it's
a time of suffering and I imagine it's not. No,
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But she's like at the end of the day, like
you said, you're going separate, but your way is you're
finally going your way, you know, like not everybody else's way,
and it's never too late for that, you know. And
now you're feeling it, so the way that you can
combat when like all those you know, ugly feelings or
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when you want to cry or yeah, but I'm doing
my thing now. I'm gonna transform this into a lot
of things that probably I couldn't do with him because
you wouldn't get it, you know, and vice versa. So
whatever whatever it is you're doing, because I feel like
you have a bunch of projects, you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, that's really good to hear.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, I've been like kind of calling on both of
them so much as I just try to, like, yeah,
figure out what my life is gonna look like, so right,
that most really important?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah? Good good, But no, no, you're what they do
show me is like stable stability. I'm sorry that you're
very stable. I don't know if it's your house or
if it is, but you're in a stable situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, my actually my apartment situation just really stabilized in
a good way.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I So that's that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, and that's what's gonna put put you in like
the right mindset and everything, because whenever you don't have
to worry about certain things, you know, like maybe money
or maybe yeah, it's like, oh, you know, because a
lot of people will stay because they're like I don't
even have an apartment to go to or whatever, you know,
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and so you know, thank God that you have that
opportunity so you can do the right thing and not
do not Maybe you can go back to him, it
doesn't matter, but at least it's for the right reas'
not the wrong ones.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, continuing. For some weird reason, I feel like for
you in particular, the more you work, the more love
cultivates by itself in a separate way, and then it's
like you don't notice it. I don't know how to
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interpret that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It it makes sense to me because I'm I'm in
I'm a actor and writer. I'm in a creative field.
And during this time, you know, since my husband and
I decided to separate, I have really like started to
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connect more to my community and the projects that I'm doing.
I'm bringing together a lot of people I really like
and enjoy. And even just before we got on this call,
I like have a play that I'm writing and I
just got a bunch of people together to read it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And so.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, I do feel like in pursuing my creative stuff,
I've also been making deeper relationships with people.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, like realer, like you know, with something in common
that you have, there's a lot. Yeah, there's a there's
a lot of love around you. So thank God, and
that's great that you get all the people involved in
in your creations. That's wonderful. Yeah, you know, not everybody
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does that, and that's that's what keeps keeps the ball rolling,
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I've found myself just like consistently so grateful to see
how much love is around me. As this has been happening,
It's been like and from places that I didn't even
necessarily realize it was love of the you know, where
I was just like, Oh, we all hang out, we
all do stuff together, we work creatively, and then it's
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like something happened in my life and I'm like, oh,
these people care about me, you know right right.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Which usually in that in that like in show business
and everything, very few people really care.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It can yeah, it can be hard.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It can be hard even yourself, like, yeah, I care
for them, I care for them, but yeah, no, you
have like a love situation going on. So that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm just like, this has been crazy already. I'm so like,
oh my god, I didn't know what to expect, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh wow, even better even better that you didn't know
what to expect for here Here in Goes therapy, it's
all about positive stuff, no negative anything. You know, it's
like ways to move forward or stuff like that, but
never a negative thing.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'm glad you're liking it. You know that. Menora, It's
like me, Noora, It's like she comes and goes, comes
and goes. I'm not getting it. Was she like an
active grandmother like here there she.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I mean she was certainly, she lived a very long life.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
She was here, she was with us till ninety eight,
so and she was always, you know, with the kids
and here she traveled.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
She was very.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Present, I would say, even though we never lived in
the same place, like even just not even just with me,
like with all of the children in the family. She
had a massive impact on everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like with a phone call, with.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Anything she was there, and especially like once she was
living in Miami. I know my cousins who are slightly younger,
she was really involved day to day in their lives. Then, Yeah,
she just was massively impactful to everyone in my way.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Wow, that's wonderful. She's very Okay, I don't know which
one of them. I still don't know which one of
them is. But they want to talk a little bit
more about your work. They feel, maybe it's both of them,
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that your work has to be maybe not stop what
you're doing, but like branch out into They feel really
strongly about you writing about what you know, how it
feels interesting, uh huh, because for them it's like nobody
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understands the other. It's kind of like a technique where
you present this side and then you present the other side,
and then how what this side feels and then how
this side feels through with the same thing that happened
something like that. So maybe she's giving you an idea
for a show or something.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, it's okay, that's I'm certainly open to their idea.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yes, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I'm gonna noodle on that what they could be talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But definitely thinks that you know how it feels. Okay,
you go from there like all these things like good
and bad and frustrating and everything that, but you have
to know how you felt about it so you can
write about it in a very clear way.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, so I think it's like both things. But I
think that's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Like I know, I'm like, I'm glad to hear that
they have these thoughts because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
do think that sometimes I can put a wall or
distance between the stuff that I'm doing. I do comedy,
so sometimes it's very easy to have like that ironic detachment.
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So I wonder if what they're saying is to like
lock in more.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Lock in like the like the real real.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, how things really made me feel.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And then make a joke and then yeah, make a
joke about it. Yeah yeah, Yeah, that's pretty that's a
lot of soul searching there.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Like, yeah, that's definitely a very deep well of stuff
because that is something in my career and I've been
thinking about this a lot, given what's going on in
my marriage and stuff. I think when I was younger,
I would try to turn everything that happened to me
into comedy immediately just to like play it off. And
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now I'm trying to sit more with what is happening
in my life so that if I do turn it
in to art in some way, it's like kind of
what you're saying, it's based in my real feelings. I
know what I actually feel about it, and I'm ready
to say.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Absolutely like heartfelt, yes, more than anything else. Absolutely, So
there's a there's like a new way to go. Mm hmm,
you know, he said, And there they want me to clarify,
just so you know that nothing that you were doing
up to now is wrong. They're just giving you.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, no, they no ideas.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's yea interesting, yes, yes, yes. Also, didn't Misora die
kind of like by herself?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
My dad was with her.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Dad okay, but no sons?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, And yeah no my dad is her young she
has two sons. My dad was there, but my uncle,
his older brother, was not there, and my grandpa had
already passed away.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Got it, Okay, So that seems to be she she
marks kind of like a like a loneeness, you know,
like yeah, died alone, all alone, but she wants to
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like soothe everybody's you know, soul, saying that even though
I was alone, even though I you know, it became
like a little lonely life a little bit at the
towards the end, I believe, yeah, And she's like, I
was fine, I was okay. I you know, she kind
of needed it too. You know, it was good for
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her to be alone.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's that rings really true, because it was, Yeah, towards
the end, there was a lot of discussion about she
was into, like she had like a nurse with her
in her apartment, which she needed. But I know that, yeah,
there was a lot of discussion around if she should
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go be in like an old folks home and stuff.
My parents were really against that, right, and I know
that I personally felt I've always felt really sad that
I was not able to go on this trip that
my family went to Miami and it was the last
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time we all, like they all saw her, but I
wasn't able to go because I.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Had just started a new job.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So I always felt like I kind of missed out
on that opportunity to see her.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Of course, but remember that when you know, the the
last days or the goodbyes, those don't really matter to
them up there, you know, they don't care about how
they felt or how anybody felt the goodbye care. What
they care about is that, you know, the beautiful life
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that they had, you know, the good life and everything.
So like if it's any consolation, like for her, it's
all good, you know, it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
It's like, I know, you had to do what you
had to do and I was fine and I'm She's like,
I'm even better now because I'm like with you all
the time and I can you know, yeah, yeah, more
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than before.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, she like finally gets to actually be with everybody
exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So it's all, it all, it all adds up, you know,
like her willingness to be alone, her wanting to be alone,
and then you know, just having all the good memories
of the past and not letting the other like the
last days matter.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay, and it's good.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think that that would I think that that's something
that weighs on my I mean, my was with her.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But I think she wants me to mention that Dad
is okay medically.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, he he has some stuff, some autoimmune stuff that
he struggles.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, he's gonna be okay, He's okay. Maybe he will.
Maybe he will struggle, you know, the rest of his
life because outoimmune is forever. But he's gonna be healthy,
you know, like maybe struggling with one thing, but the
rest is you know, healthy, and it's not gonna be
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something that he's gonna certainly not die from and certainly
not have a like bad life because of it.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Okay, Okay, So the message, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Good to know. So glad it'll be episodes, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like he just struggles with a lot of pain and stuff,
which is hard to say.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Okay, for you medically,
there's something I see, like around your hip in the
front part, like maybe under the stomach. Could it be.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Like I'm kind of in the process of thinking about
freezing my eggs.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I don't know if, oh, maybe it's that. Okay, okay, okay,
because I feel like you're having unnecessary, uh, unnecessary pain
that you think is normal, but it's.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Not interesting mm hmm interesting. Yeah, it's I mean, I
guess I am having lower back pain that you are.
I'm like, well, my lower BAC is struggling the main thing. Yeah, yeah,
I guess what's kind of what that made me think
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of is just that I've been.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Thinking a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
About, yeah, trying to freeze my eggs and all this
stuff since now you know, my relationship it's not in
the same place, and god, I'm not sure where that's
gonna go.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
No, it's good to be, you know, it's good, Yeah,
to prevent instead of being sorry for.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, preventing some more like emotional pain than a physical pain.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Maybe maybe it's that. So maybe it's like you're you're thinking,
you're overthinking everything, you know. Maybe it's like, you know,
it shouldn't true. Yeah, it's like it shouldn't hurt that much,
you know, it should be. How old are you?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'm thirty five?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh got this no problem?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, yeah, yeah yeah, because you never know. It's like
maybe you meet somebody tomorrow and then three months you're
so in love and then you get pregnant them book.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know that's the thing is it's
that's been kind of I guess the hardest part of
my marriage ending, and just there was so much stuff
that I was like, I know what's next, I know
what path I'm on, I know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And now it's like, oh, I I don't know right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I thought I was going to be moving towards maybe
having a baby soon. Now it's like maybe I am,
maybe I'm not.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I have no idea, and maybe you don't have right now,
the time or the effort or anything to have one
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, I mean, and that's fine too crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
No no, no, no, yeah, you would want to partner
and you But definitely I feel that by going through
this freezing thing. Maybe it's because their grandma's and they
don't you know, they don't believe in all that stuff,
but they're but they're like just because kind of like
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just because you don't get your way, or just because
it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean that it won't happen.
You have to kind of like trust God more than
anything that it'll come whenever it's supposed to come, and
not when society or you or your mind or your
mindset says it's supposed to come, you know, And by
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by freezing, it's like manipulating a little bit your life
and how it should flow and how it should be
according to God. You know, even if you don't believe
in God or the universe or whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
The universe certainly.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I mean it makes sense for them to talk about
it in those kinds of terms. They were both very
very Catholic, oh gageous, so it makes sense for them
to to think about it and in.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That way, in that way, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were never in that situation. Apparently everybody was very
fertile back then. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well Grandma Rose start.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I think she had my uncle Tommy the oldest at twenty,
and maybe my aunt harun by.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Like thirty, maybe like my age.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And it was okay, pretty consistently pregnant her whole life.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Fifteen years being pregnant. Yeah, and then at twenty, like
at twenty, what do we know about life at twenty
years now?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
It's crazy, not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, no, thirty five. I had mine at forty, so
you're still that time. Yeah, there's time. It's fine, there's time.
But it's more about like the baby is about the relationship.
It's about the thing and not about just being mom.
And no matter what that's that's kind of what they
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want to say.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Okay, that is a good message for me to hear
right now.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, yeah, because then you know, all that pressure is like,
then you're gonna make yourself fail yourself. Yeah for something
that maybe in three years you're like, oh thank god
I didn't have a baby. Look where I'm at right now,
I wouldn't have been here. You know, it could work
that way. Okay, hold on, Okay, they're like, just meet
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people outside of your area, like outside of.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Your Okay, they're telling me not to date another comedian.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
No, exactly, no comedians, no actors, no prop guy.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Well that message is received loud and good.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Everyone on the same page.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yes, yes, yes, I realived. I'm married and everything. But
I know what she meant, what they mean, Oh my god,
because that's the only people we have acts is too write.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It would be nice to meet someone who does something
else exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That's that's the last thing they wanted to to come
forth with.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Because that's really making me laugh. That's really fun.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I'm seeing a little dabbling into music. Is this something
you want?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, that's actually interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I literally two days ago downloaded an app to try
to learn to sing more, like I've always wanted to,
like train, I sing a little bit, but never in
a real way. And like, literally two days ago I
downloaded something to try to teach myself to sing at
home since I can't like afford lessons or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
So that's really important.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Nobody can afford those lessons. That's awesome. And somehow in
some way, maybe one one or two times you could
incorporate like a little just a little little song in
your act or just you know that you can carry,
you know, four notes that you can carry.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
That's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm like surprised that that would come up,
but yeah, no, I did just the other day say
I'm gonna do these at home singing lessons with this app.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
See how, see how a lot of people they don't
believe that, oh grandma's not here, you know, grandma's over there. No,
Grandma is there with you and she they saw you
go into the computer. They saw you do all of
those things, and they're validating it and they're saying, good,
you did, good. Go ahead, you know, so yeah, go
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for it, because it'll like feel like it would work
for you in some way. But you know, in a
smart way. You know what you're doing. Like I can't
suggest anything, but like you know what you're doing. Definitely,
do you have any questions.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
For them gosh, yeah, I guess for both of them.
Is there anything they would want me to tell my
parents or my sister too, Like if they have a
message for.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Either mom or dad or Natalie.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Guide Natalie goide for Mom. This is gonna sound weird, Okay,
something about the walls where she lives, are you Is
she having trouble with like mole or like maybe like water.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, Oh my god, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Their basement just flooded, no way, yeah, like like they're
the lower level of their house just flooded.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's ridiculous. Okay, she needs to like transform or be
be weary of mole for some reason. Okay, so because
of the water, which I don't know how that works,
but like okay, it's like okay, yeah, just you know,
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like really clean up or like really do something about it,
because there's something about health related things with that. Okay, yeah, crazy,
So go for that. That's for mom, and then for Dad.
Let me give you for dad. I feel for dad.
Uh huh mm hmmm, he says. Okay, she says, Misda
(37:42):
says about dad. Misda's dad's Yeah. Mother. Yeah, something about
being more social something about.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
That makes sense as well.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, like stop like stop being shy or stop being
like like you don't deserve the space that you're in,
you know, yeah, and be like I'm you know, I'm
this person and I'm proud of it, and uh, you know,
I'm happy. And and he's he's done a good job.
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You know, he's done a great job.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
He has done a great job.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And I don't think that he always like recognizes that
that's the case.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, because he belittles in himself, which there's no reason
for it, you know, but that's I feel like Missoura's
kind of like maybe asking for forgiveness because I feel
like she was a big part of that, like you know,
like the bringing up, I think, or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Like I think that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
He has like I think that she gave him a
ton a ton of love.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
But I think that.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
He's an artist too, And I'm not sure if she
and my grandpa knew how to nurture that, you know,
like their old school Cuban from Cuba, Like I don't
think they knew how to like really have an artist
son or why Like yeah, I don't very traditional good yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Right, which is crazy because Cuba, I decisions are wonderful,
I know, it's like.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
The most I went once and I was just so
floored by how there's just art. Everyone is making art
everywhere everywhere. But I think that maybe my grandpa in
particular was just like had very traditional ideas about like
masculinity and what should be being done. And I don't
know if he always understood my.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Dad understood him that much, right, right, Maybe that came
from yeah, because you know, not saying like he's a
new secure person, but yeah, he always feels less. Yeah,
and maybe he won't express it, but you know, it's
always like come on, like break out of your shell.
Who you want to be. You're in, You're you're big,
(40:15):
you know you you you have light and you know
somebow I think that they kind of like lowered it
a little. Maybe maybe also, I mean we shouldn't judge,
but we judge, and you know, maybe sometimes you know,
it's like, don't let their dreams go too far because
you know, we're in Cuba and maybe they won't come
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true or yeah, you know they're in Mexico and maybe
you know, like for me, you know, it's like how
are you going to win an oscar or something like that?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You know where you live here yeah, I think that that,
you know, I mean it was hard, like they had
to up and leave after the revolution. It was difficult.
I think that there was. And then you know, my
dad was like five when they left, So I also
do think that it's like even even my uncle Aldie,
(41:04):
who's a little older, spent more time and has more
memories in Cuba. I feel like Dad was the one
who was like the americanized one, like he oh, okay,
speak Spanish, but like his accent wasn't like exactly right.
Like I think that he was the first kind of
like American kid even though he was born in Diana
(41:24):
and stuff, and so I think there was a lot
of like mismatch culture, right his dad and then my
nana is like super supportive. But yeah, I think that
sometimes it was like okay, who is this little American
boy that lives in our house right now?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Wow, that's a culture class. Yeah, like big time everything
like around like United States and you know, like Florida
all that stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, they ended up going.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
They were in New Jersey first before going, so it's
like he ended up being this little like kind of
Jersey Jersey who is this and he loves to pay
people and all this stuff, and they're just like, who
is this kid?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I think that that's true. He doesn't fit in andto
any stereotype. Yeah, maybe that's why he has to be
proud of of who he is. Yeah, than then, more
than before. So that's the message for daddy, the message
for mommy, I don't get any for hold on Natalie, right,
(42:29):
Natalie is your sister, nad She a comedian too.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
She's she performs she I mean she does. She She
was like a theater student. She's a yoga instructor now,
so she she's in a performative space for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, okay, fluctuates kind of Okay, okay. I think that
with her like your grandma, your grandma say that she's funny.
She is. She is funny. Yeah, she is really funny,
and that she doesn't like don't know how to place it. Probably,
so like if you could help her, or you know,
(43:13):
there's some way that you can help her, like not
budding in, you know, but helping her with tools and stuff,
because she is funny, and maybe you can do like
sometimes like a pair, like a duo thing something like that. Yeah,
because she's got it in her. She just doesn't know
how to She's very all over the place. Is she young.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
She is younger than me.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
She just turned thirty, so she is. And I do
think it's taken her sometime to figure out her footing.
I think she's in a good space right now. But
that description. She is really funny. She's like one of
the funniest people I know, and I hang out with
comedians all the time. And yeah, so that makes a
(43:58):
lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Then then you know, slowly like push her into it
without her knowing, because whenever she says she sees commitment
or where it, whenever she sees like you should do that,
she runs the other way and starts doing something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, So yeah, be smarter than her and push her
into it.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
And I think you guys could like really rock it together.
Yeah yeah maybe.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I mean I certainly would be interested in that. She's
the best. I mean, she's my little sister. But I
love her so much.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
No, no, no, totally. And you know what, like nobody
does that, nobody does the duos that much, So you
could be innovative for something, yeah, or something like that.
But along those lines, Okay, so we got a message
for all of them.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yes, Wow, I mean, I'm just processing a lot of
that information.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It's a lot. Take a little out, profen after this,
just because like the energy gets to your head and
you know, it makes you or either sleepy or with
a headache. Yeah, so just take one.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
For I already feel that. I'm like, I'm sleepy now.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I know. Okay, So we're gonna tell Rose and Misoora
to go back to the light where they belong and
ask them, well, actually say thank you for everything they've
given us today. At least I give you all of
your energy back and I take mine back. Everything's perfect.
(45:39):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Wow, I mean, thank you so much. That was thank
you for accepting.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, no, thank you for being so open, because when
you're open, everything flows differently. So thank you for trusting me.
And I'm so glad to have you on the show.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
It was.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
This was wonderful. What you do is so special, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
M
I'm like emotional, this is really, this is really I
didn't expect it to like hit so hard so fast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh my God, tell your mommy that everything will be okay.
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with Desi's loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy. Thank
(00:30):
you so much for being here. I'm Paula Pedrosa. Today
we talked to this such a sweet girl. Her name
is Alice Morales, and she was kind of a skeptic,
well not a skeptic, she just never done this before
and well it went really well, even like she got
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in touch with her grandma's and the grandma's gave her
ideas for shows. She's a writer and she's a comedian
and they actually gave her ideas. I mean, is this
crazy or what? So if we see it one on
the air sometime, we're gonna be like, Okay, I'm gonna
need some money from that. I'm gonna because I told
(01:13):
you about it. So here's Alise Morales. Thank you for
being here. Hey, guys, welcome to ghost Therapy. This is
(01:36):
Paula Pedrosa and we're almost getting to the end of
this season. I think we've had a wonderful season. I've
learned a lot. I hope you have too. Today we
have Alice, Alice, Alise Morales. Hi, Alisa, how are you.
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm really excited for this.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Have you ever done this before?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
No, not anything like this. I went. I've had my
tarot cards read a couple of times, but never anything
like really in this world at all.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh, I like newbies. Yeah, I like it. I like
it because it's a little bit different from the tarot,
but it's similar in many ways. So you'll see, you'll see. Yeah,
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, So, okay, I'm kind of torn between my two grandmothers.
I'm not I'm not sure if it could be both.
It could be both, yeah, okay, for sure, Rose, who's.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
My mother's mother, passed.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I guess it would be more like two thousand and
two because I think I was around twelve, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And then my.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Grandma, my dad's mom, Misoda, she passed when I was
already in my like mid twenties.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Mid twenties. Yeah, okay, perfect, Okay, then you have perfect recollection.
Of her, both of them. Yeah, that's good. Okay, I'll
be right back. Let me see my let me say
my prayer. Would one of them makes sense that they
(03:29):
would say, oh, so much happened. I can't I couldn't
remember a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh that would That would be my grandma Rose.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, perfect. Then I think she got here first. She'd
me so to these Okay, she's laughing because she's like,
you know what, even better, No.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
That makes a lot of sense for her to say too.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's like, you know what, I didn't have to say anything.
I didn't have to get involved. You know, everything happened.
So she's she's happy about that. What she's she wants
you to know that now she knows how hard it
was to kind of not deal with her, deal with
(04:23):
her sounds pretty ugly, but to like, you know, take
care of her. I guess she didn't realize it that much.
But she's so thankful because she didn't know how much
of a of a pain it was.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You know, she had Alzheimer's at the end, and there
was a lot of family drama between my mom and
her siblings that coincided with that time. And so what
you're saying makes a lot a lot of sense. And
my mom always said that she she was kind of
(05:01):
happy that my grandma wasn't able to fully absorb all
of the sibling drama that was happening. So to like
hear that from her in this context is like, oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I know, yeah, she does it because they're so perfect
and everything they already forgave, they already you know, they
know what happened now, but you know they forgave, they forgot.
Everything's good with her. You know, there's no grudges, there's
no grudges, and she even laughs about it, you know, like, oh,
thank god I was there for anything. But yeah, yeah,
(05:37):
she's at peace with everything, and she's only thankful for
you know how hard it was probably taking care of her,
and she's thankful. No kind of saying I'm thankful no
matter what. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Really good to hear. Yeah, yes, I know my mom
would want to know that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, especially your mom, because I feel your mom was
was her I don't know, like the protector, the advocate,
the I don't know, like something around those lines.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, my mom is the oldest daughter, and because of
this family drama that happened. I don't think my mom
was able to be as involved in her day to
day care as she wanted to be because we were
(06:33):
a little bit further away.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And I think that that like weighs on her a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Got it? Okay, Okay? Did Grandma Rose have a son?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, she's got a couple sons.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh, a couple.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, there are definitely a few in the may oh okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Because she wants to talk about one of them. Let
me tell you, let me describe them to you. She's saying,
like in a very forgiving way, like very nicely. She's like,
don't worry about it, like something about he is who
he is. I don't know if it's somebody you know
that you guys probably didn't as strange.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, a strange.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yes, my uncle Danny, I think is probably who she's
talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, okay, but you know what I feel like, I
know it must be very hard on everybody to be
a strange from a brother. That must be really hard.
But the way Grandma's saying this is the way that
let him like let him be m h And nothing
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you will do or nothing you will say, will change him.
It's more about him looking for the change, you know,
him looking for everything, and that maybe won't come easily
for you guys, but it will have to do with
a lesson life lesson for him.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, that sounds about right for sure. Yeah, that's really
interesting because it's there was a big my mom's one
of six right around the time that my grandma was
passing and all this was going on. There was just
a big schism between all of the siblings and most
of them have come back together in some capacity except
(08:29):
for him.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, And it's definitely kind of to what you're communicating
to me. Like I think, especially with my mom, if
he wanted to have a relationship with her, my mom
would be so open to that. My mom is really
really interested in getting everyone back together, right. He seems
very fixed in his anger in a way that it's
(08:56):
hard to yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Even know, even if if it were to even let's say,
your mom gets them all together, you wouldn't be in
the right in the correct frequency, all of you at
the same time, you know, and you know, at different
times in your lives, different problems, different everything, and everybody.
It's kind of she's kind of like saying everybody, every
(09:20):
one of my my you know, my children got a
different version of me, you know, so I think it
has to do with that, and nobody has to feel
guilty because you know that's how it was.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, I'm like emotional, This is really, this is
really I didn't expect it to like hit so hard,
so fast.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh my god, I'm so glad. I'm so glad to
tell your mommy that everything will be okay. I'm sure
she's sad about it, but everything later on in life,
when everything changes, when yeah, he'll have he'll have an awakening,
kind of a rude, bad one, but it won't kill him,
(10:07):
you know, it will just make him stronger, make him better.
And then we go about it. Okay, yeah, okay, perfect,
did we Soura in a way always? I don't mean
to air your dirty laundry or anything, but did we
so always sleep in a separate bed as her husband?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But Perfect, there's a chance that I wouldn't one hundred
percent know about that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right right, right right. This is why this is why
she brings it up, because there's something about she's like
very practical. I don't know, she was like very you know,
and she says the key to a good marriage is
to never sleep together or to have separate bedrooms or
(10:58):
something like better separate separate beds.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's very interesting that she would have a message to
me regarding marriage because I'm actually separating from my husband
right right now, okay, okay, and I in like seeking
guidance to that. I often kind of like energetically call
out to both of my grandma's in a way. So
(11:24):
it is interesting to me that she would have a
marriage related message for me.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But maybe she has, she has a little bit more.
But that was funny. That was funny.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That is very funny.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean, I know that my grandfather that she was
married to was a was a difficult person person.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So maybe it's like not living separate lives, but living
like respecting everybody, you know, yeah everything your own face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I agree. Your separation seems to me like it has
to do a lot with I don't know if it's
you belittling his opinions because you don't understand them at all.
(12:07):
It's kind of like, uh, what what are you talking about?
Like that kind of energy? Does this make sense in
a way?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I would say, I mean it certainly has a lot
to do with the two of us not seeing eye
to eye about like very basic reality type stuff, like
we just really got off the same page and we
(12:37):
couldn't get back to the same page.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's very that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, I do think that I lost a lot
of respect for him in the time that we were
having a lot of difficulty, and then we just don't
see eye to eye about the world anymore in general.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, because I feel like you're turning the other way,
like I, you know, I don't know what you're saying.
I don't know what you're talking about. It's like like
dibber dabber, you know, like whatever he says, like it's
Chinese to you.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, I would definitely say yeah that, like when
it doesn't the stuff he says to me doesn't ring
true to me. And I feel like we live in
two different realities often, and I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Believe that your grandma, I think this is this is Rose,
Grandma Rose. She really agrees with you separating. She believes
you've made the right decision. Yes, yes, because I imagine it's
a time of suffering and I imagine it's not. No,
(13:55):
But she's like at the end of the day, like
you said, you're going separate, but your way is you're
finally going your way, you know, like not everybody else's way,
and it's never too late for that, you know. And
now you're feeling it, so the way that you can
combat when like all those you know, ugly feelings or
(14:19):
when you want to cry or yeah, but I'm doing
my thing now. I'm gonna transform this into a lot
of things that probably I couldn't do with him because
you wouldn't get it, you know, and vice versa. So
whatever whatever it is you're doing, because I feel like
you have a bunch of projects, you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, that's really good to hear.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, I've been like kind of calling on both of
them so much as I just try to, like, yeah,
figure out what my life is gonna look like, so right,
that most really important?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah? Good good, But no, no, you're what they do
show me is like stable stability. I'm sorry that you're
very stable. I don't know if it's your house or
if it is, but you're in a stable situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, my actually my apartment situation just really stabilized in
a good way.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I So that's that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, and that's what's gonna put put you in like
the right mindset and everything, because whenever you don't have
to worry about certain things, you know, like maybe money
or maybe yeah, it's like, oh, you know, because a
lot of people will stay because they're like I don't
even have an apartment to go to or whatever, you know,
(15:47):
and so you know, thank God that you have that
opportunity so you can do the right thing and not
do not Maybe you can go back to him, it
doesn't matter, but at least it's for the right reas'
not the wrong ones.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, continuing. For some weird reason, I feel like for
you in particular, the more you work, the more love
cultivates by itself in a separate way, and then it's
like you don't notice it. I don't know how to
(16:25):
interpret that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It it makes sense to me because I'm I'm in
I'm a actor and writer. I'm in a creative field.
And during this time, you know, since my husband and
I decided to separate, I have really like started to
(16:49):
connect more to my community and the projects that I'm doing.
I'm bringing together a lot of people I really like
and enjoy. And even just before we got on this call,
I like have a play that I'm writing and I
just got a bunch of people together to read it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And so.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, I do feel like in pursuing my creative stuff,
I've also been making deeper relationships with people.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, like realer, like you know, with something in common
that you have, there's a lot. Yeah, there's a there's
a lot of love around you. So thank God, and
that's great that you get all the people involved in
in your creations. That's wonderful. Yeah, you know, not everybody
(17:39):
does that, and that's that's what keeps keeps the ball rolling,
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I've found myself just like consistently so grateful to see
how much love is around me. As this has been happening,
It's been like and from places that I didn't even
necessarily realize it was love of the you know, where
I was just like, Oh, we all hang out, we
all do stuff together, we work creatively, and then it's
(18:06):
like something happened in my life and I'm like, oh,
these people care about me, you know right right.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Which usually in that in that like in show business
and everything, very few people really care.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It can yeah, it can be hard.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It can be hard even yourself, like, yeah, I care
for them, I care for them, but yeah, no, you
have like a love situation going on. So that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm just like, this has been crazy already. I'm so like,
oh my god, I didn't know what to expect, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh wow, even better even better that you didn't know
what to expect for here Here in Goes therapy, it's
all about positive stuff, no negative anything. You know, it's
like ways to move forward or stuff like that, but
never a negative thing.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'm glad you're liking it. You know that. Menora, It's
like me, Noora, It's like she comes and goes, comes
and goes. I'm not getting it. Was she like an
active grandmother like here there she.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I mean she was certainly, she lived a very long life.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
She was here, she was with us till ninety eight,
so and she was always, you know, with the kids
and here she traveled.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
She was very.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Present, I would say, even though we never lived in
the same place, like even just not even just with me,
like with all of the children in the family. She
had a massive impact on everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like with a phone call, with.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Anything she was there, and especially like once she was
living in Miami. I know my cousins who are slightly younger,
she was really involved day to day in their lives. Then, Yeah,
she just was massively impactful to everyone in my way.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Wow, that's wonderful. She's very Okay, I don't know which
one of them. I still don't know which one of
them is. But they want to talk a little bit
more about your work. They feel, maybe it's both of them,
(20:28):
that your work has to be maybe not stop what
you're doing, but like branch out into They feel really
strongly about you writing about what you know, how it
feels interesting, uh huh, because for them it's like nobody
(20:52):
understands the other. It's kind of like a technique where
you present this side and then you present the other side,
and then how what this side feels and then how
this side feels through with the same thing that happened
something like that. So maybe she's giving you an idea
for a show or something.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, it's okay, that's I'm certainly open to their idea.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yes, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I'm gonna noodle on that what they could be talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But definitely thinks that you know how it feels. Okay,
you go from there like all these things like good
and bad and frustrating and everything that, but you have
to know how you felt about it so you can
write about it in a very clear way.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, so I think it's like both things. But I
think that's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Like I know, I'm like, I'm glad to hear that
they have these thoughts because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
do think that sometimes I can put a wall or
distance between the stuff that I'm doing. I do comedy,
so sometimes it's very easy to have like that ironic detachment.
(22:10):
So I wonder if what they're saying is to like
lock in more.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Lock in like the like the real real.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, how things really made me feel.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And then make a joke and then yeah, make a
joke about it. Yeah yeah, Yeah, that's pretty that's a
lot of soul searching there.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Like, yeah, that's definitely a very deep well of stuff
because that is something in my career and I've been
thinking about this a lot, given what's going on in
my marriage and stuff. I think when I was younger,
I would try to turn everything that happened to me
into comedy immediately just to like play it off. And
(22:52):
now I'm trying to sit more with what is happening
in my life so that if I do turn it
in to art in some way, it's like kind of
what you're saying, it's based in my real feelings. I
know what I actually feel about it, and I'm ready
to say.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Absolutely like heartfelt, yes, more than anything else. Absolutely, So
there's a there's like a new way to go. Mm hmm,
you know, he said, And there they want me to clarify,
just so you know that nothing that you were doing
up to now is wrong. They're just giving you.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, no, they no ideas.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's yea interesting, yes, yes, yes. Also, didn't Misora die
kind of like by herself?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
My dad was with her.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Dad okay, but no sons?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, And yeah no my dad is her young she
has two sons. My dad was there, but my uncle,
his older brother, was not there, and my grandpa had
already passed away.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Got it, Okay, So that seems to be she she
marks kind of like a like a loneeness, you know,
like yeah, died alone, all alone, but she wants to
(24:27):
like soothe everybody's you know, soul, saying that even though
I was alone, even though I you know, it became
like a little lonely life a little bit at the
towards the end, I believe, yeah, And she's like, I
was fine, I was okay. I you know, she kind
of needed it too. You know, it was good for
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her to be alone.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's that rings really true, because it was, Yeah, towards
the end, there was a lot of discussion about she
was into, like she had like a nurse with her
in her apartment, which she needed. But I know that, yeah,
there was a lot of discussion around if she should
(25:10):
go be in like an old folks home and stuff.
My parents were really against that, right, and I know
that I personally felt I've always felt really sad that
I was not able to go on this trip that
my family went to Miami and it was the last
(25:30):
time we all, like they all saw her, but I
wasn't able to go because I.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Had just started a new job.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So I always felt like I kind of missed out
on that opportunity to see her.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Of course, but remember that when you know, the the
last days or the goodbyes, those don't really matter to
them up there, you know, they don't care about how
they felt or how anybody felt the goodbye care. What
they care about is that, you know, the beautiful life
(26:04):
that they had, you know, the good life and everything.
So like if it's any consolation, like for her, it's
all good, you know, it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
It's like, I know, you had to do what you
had to do and I was fine and I'm She's like,
I'm even better now because I'm like with you all
the time and I can you know, yeah, yeah, more
(26:28):
than before.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, she like finally gets to actually be with everybody
exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So it's all, it all, it all adds up, you know,
like her willingness to be alone, her wanting to be alone,
and then you know, just having all the good memories
of the past and not letting the other like the
last days matter.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay, and it's good.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think that that would I think that that's something
that weighs on my I mean, my was with her.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But I think she wants me to mention that Dad
is okay medically.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, he he has some stuff, some autoimmune stuff that
he struggles.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, he's gonna be okay, He's okay. Maybe he will.
Maybe he will struggle, you know, the rest of his
life because outoimmune is forever. But he's gonna be healthy,
you know, like maybe struggling with one thing, but the
rest is you know, healthy, and it's not gonna be
(27:38):
something that he's gonna certainly not die from and certainly
not have a like bad life because of it.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Okay, Okay, So the message, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Good to know. So glad it'll be episodes, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like he just struggles with a lot of pain and stuff,
which is hard to say.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Okay, for you medically,
there's something I see, like around your hip in the
front part, like maybe under the stomach. Could it be.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Like I'm kind of in the process of thinking about
freezing my eggs.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I don't know if, oh, maybe it's that. Okay, okay, okay,
because I feel like you're having unnecessary, uh, unnecessary pain
that you think is normal, but it's.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Not interesting mm hmm interesting. Yeah, it's I mean, I
guess I am having lower back pain that you are.
I'm like, well, my lower BAC is struggling the main thing. Yeah, yeah,
I guess what's kind of what that made me think
(29:09):
of is just that I've been.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Thinking a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
About, yeah, trying to freeze my eggs and all this
stuff since now you know, my relationship it's not in
the same place, and god, I'm not sure where that's
gonna go.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
No, it's good to be, you know, it's good, Yeah,
to prevent instead of being sorry for.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, preventing some more like emotional pain than a physical pain.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Maybe maybe it's that. So maybe it's like you're you're thinking,
you're overthinking everything, you know. Maybe it's like, you know,
it shouldn't true. Yeah, it's like it shouldn't hurt that much,
you know, it should be. How old are you?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'm thirty five?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh got this no problem?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, yeah, yeah yeah, because you never know. It's like
maybe you meet somebody tomorrow and then three months you're
so in love and then you get pregnant them book.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know that's the thing is it's
that's been kind of I guess the hardest part of
my marriage ending, and just there was so much stuff
that I was like, I know what's next, I know
what path I'm on, I know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And now it's like, oh, I I don't know right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I thought I was going to be moving towards maybe
having a baby soon. Now it's like maybe I am,
maybe I'm not.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I have no idea, and maybe you don't have right now,
the time or the effort or anything to have one
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, I mean, and that's fine too crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
No no, no, no, yeah, you would want to partner
and you But definitely I feel that by going through
this freezing thing. Maybe it's because their grandma's and they
don't you know, they don't believe in all that stuff,
but they're but they're like just because kind of like
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just because you don't get your way, or just because
it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean that it won't happen.
You have to kind of like trust God more than
anything that it'll come whenever it's supposed to come, and
not when society or you or your mind or your
mindset says it's supposed to come, you know, And by
(31:39):
by freezing, it's like manipulating a little bit your life
and how it should flow and how it should be
according to God. You know, even if you don't believe
in God or the universe or whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
The universe certainly.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I mean it makes sense for them to talk about
it in those kinds of terms. They were both very
very Catholic, oh gageous, so it makes sense for them
to to think about it and in.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That way, in that way, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were never in that situation. Apparently everybody was very
fertile back then. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well Grandma Rose start.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I think she had my uncle Tommy the oldest at twenty,
and maybe my aunt harun by.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Like thirty, maybe like my age.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And it was okay, pretty consistently pregnant her whole life.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Fifteen years being pregnant. Yeah, and then at twenty, like
at twenty, what do we know about life at twenty
years now?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
It's crazy, not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, no, thirty five. I had mine at forty, so
you're still that time. Yeah, there's time. It's fine, there's time.
But it's more about like the baby is about the relationship.
It's about the thing and not about just being mom.
And no matter what that's that's kind of what they
(33:03):
want to say.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Okay, that is a good message for me to hear
right now.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, yeah, because then you know, all that pressure is like,
then you're gonna make yourself fail yourself. Yeah for something
that maybe in three years you're like, oh thank god
I didn't have a baby. Look where I'm at right now,
I wouldn't have been here. You know, it could work
that way. Okay, hold on, Okay, they're like, just meet
(33:30):
people outside of your area, like outside of.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Your Okay, they're telling me not to date another comedian.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
No, exactly, no comedians, no actors, no prop guy.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Well that message is received loud and good.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Everyone on the same page.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yes, yes, yes, I realived. I'm married and everything. But
I know what she meant, what they mean, Oh my god,
because that's the only people we have acts is too write.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It would be nice to meet someone who does something
else exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That's that's the last thing they wanted to to come
forth with.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Because that's really making me laugh. That's really fun.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I'm seeing a little dabbling into music. Is this something
you want?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, that's actually interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I literally two days ago downloaded an app to try
to learn to sing more, like I've always wanted to,
like train, I sing a little bit, but never in
a real way. And like, literally two days ago I
downloaded something to try to teach myself to sing at
home since I can't like afford lessons or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
So that's really important.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Nobody can afford those lessons. That's awesome. And somehow in
some way, maybe one one or two times you could
incorporate like a little just a little little song in
your act or just you know that you can carry,
you know, four notes that you can carry.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
That's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm like surprised that that would come up,
but yeah, no, I did just the other day say
I'm gonna do these at home singing lessons with this app.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
See how, see how a lot of people they don't
believe that, oh grandma's not here, you know, grandma's over there. No,
Grandma is there with you and she they saw you
go into the computer. They saw you do all of
those things, and they're validating it and they're saying, good,
you did, good. Go ahead, you know, so yeah, go
(35:43):
for it, because it'll like feel like it would work
for you in some way. But you know, in a
smart way. You know what you're doing. Like I can't
suggest anything, but like you know what you're doing. Definitely,
do you have any questions.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
For them gosh, yeah, I guess for both of them.
Is there anything they would want me to tell my
parents or my sister too, Like if they have a
message for.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Either mom or dad or Natalie.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Guide Natalie goide for Mom. This is gonna sound weird, Okay,
something about the walls where she lives, are you Is
she having trouble with like mole or like maybe like water.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, Oh my god, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Their basement just flooded, no way, yeah, like like they're
the lower level of their house just flooded.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's ridiculous. Okay, she needs to like transform or be
be weary of mole for some reason. Okay, so because
of the water, which I don't know how that works,
but like okay, it's like okay, yeah, just you know,
(37:16):
like really clean up or like really do something about it,
because there's something about health related things with that. Okay, yeah, crazy,
So go for that. That's for mom, and then for Dad.
Let me give you for dad. I feel for dad.
Uh huh mm hmmm, he says. Okay, she says, Misda
(37:42):
says about dad. Misda's dad's Yeah. Mother. Yeah, something about
being more social something about.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
That makes sense as well.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, like stop like stop being shy or stop being
like like you don't deserve the space that you're in,
you know, yeah, and be like I'm you know, I'm
this person and I'm proud of it, and uh, you know,
I'm happy. And and he's he's done a good job.
(38:17):
You know, he's done a great job.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
He has done a great job.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And I don't think that he always like recognizes that
that's the case.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, because he belittles in himself, which there's no reason
for it, you know, but that's I feel like Missoura's
kind of like maybe asking for forgiveness because I feel
like she was a big part of that, like you know,
like the bringing up, I think, or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Like I think that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
He has like I think that she gave him a
ton a ton of love.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
But I think that.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
He's an artist too, And I'm not sure if she
and my grandpa knew how to nurture that, you know,
like their old school Cuban from Cuba, Like I don't
think they knew how to like really have an artist
son or why Like yeah, I don't very traditional good yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Right, which is crazy because Cuba, I decisions are wonderful,
I know, it's like.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
The most I went once and I was just so
floored by how there's just art. Everyone is making art
everywhere everywhere. But I think that maybe my grandpa in
particular was just like had very traditional ideas about like
masculinity and what should be being done. And I don't
know if he always understood my.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Dad understood him that much, right, right, Maybe that came
from yeah, because you know, not saying like he's a
new secure person, but yeah, he always feels less. Yeah,
and maybe he won't express it, but you know, it's
always like come on, like break out of your shell.
Who you want to be. You're in, You're you're big,
(40:15):
you know you you you have light and you know
somebow I think that they kind of like lowered it
a little. Maybe maybe also, I mean we shouldn't judge,
but we judge, and you know, maybe sometimes you know,
it's like, don't let their dreams go too far because
you know, we're in Cuba and maybe they won't come
(40:35):
true or yeah, you know they're in Mexico and maybe
you know, like for me, you know, it's like how
are you going to win an oscar or something like that?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You know where you live here yeah, I think that that,
you know, I mean it was hard, like they had
to up and leave after the revolution. It was difficult.
I think that there was. And then you know, my
dad was like five when they left, So I also
do think that it's like even even my uncle Aldie,
(41:04):
who's a little older, spent more time and has more
memories in Cuba. I feel like Dad was the one
who was like the americanized one, like he oh, okay,
speak Spanish, but like his accent wasn't like exactly right.
Like I think that he was the first kind of
like American kid even though he was born in Diana
(41:24):
and stuff, and so I think there was a lot
of like mismatch culture, right his dad and then my
nana is like super supportive. But yeah, I think that
sometimes it was like okay, who is this little American
boy that lives in our house right now?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Wow, that's a culture class. Yeah, like big time everything
like around like United States and you know, like Florida
all that stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, they ended up going.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
They were in New Jersey first before going, so it's
like he ended up being this little like kind of
Jersey Jersey who is this and he loves to pay
people and all this stuff, and they're just like, who
is this kid?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I think that that's true. He doesn't fit in andto
any stereotype. Yeah, maybe that's why he has to be
proud of of who he is. Yeah, than then, more
than before. So that's the message for daddy, the message
for mommy, I don't get any for hold on Natalie, right,
(42:29):
Natalie is your sister, nad She a comedian too.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
She's she performs she I mean she does. She She
was like a theater student. She's a yoga instructor now,
so she she's in a performative space for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, okay, fluctuates kind of Okay, okay. I think that
with her like your grandma, your grandma say that she's funny.
She is. She is funny. Yeah, she is really funny,
and that she doesn't like don't know how to place it. Probably,
so like if you could help her, or you know,
(43:13):
there's some way that you can help her, like not
budding in, you know, but helping her with tools and stuff,
because she is funny, and maybe you can do like
sometimes like a pair, like a duo thing something like that. Yeah,
because she's got it in her. She just doesn't know
how to She's very all over the place. Is she young.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
She is younger than me.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
She just turned thirty, so she is. And I do
think it's taken her sometime to figure out her footing.
I think she's in a good space right now. But
that description. She is really funny. She's like one of
the funniest people I know, and I hang out with
comedians all the time. And yeah, so that makes a
(43:58):
lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Then then you know, slowly like push her into it
without her knowing, because whenever she says she sees commitment
or where it, whenever she sees like you should do that,
she runs the other way and starts doing something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, So yeah, be smarter than her and push her
into it.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
And I think you guys could like really rock it together.
Yeah yeah maybe.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I mean I certainly would be interested in that. She's
the best. I mean, she's my little sister. But I
love her so much.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
No, no, no, totally. And you know what, like nobody
does that, nobody does the duos that much, So you
could be innovative for something, yeah, or something like that.
But along those lines, Okay, so we got a message
for all of them.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yes, Wow, I mean, I'm just processing a lot of
that information.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It's a lot. Take a little out, profen after this,
just because like the energy gets to your head and
you know, it makes you or either sleepy or with
a headache. Yeah, so just take one.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
For I already feel that. I'm like, I'm sleepy now.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I know. Okay, So we're gonna tell Rose and Misoora
to go back to the light where they belong and
ask them, well, actually say thank you for everything they've
given us today. At least I give you all of
your energy back and I take mine back. Everything's perfect.
(45:39):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Wow, I mean, thank you so much. That was thank
you for accepting.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, no, thank you for being so open, because when
you're open, everything flows differently. So thank you for trusting me.
And I'm so glad to have you on the show.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
It was.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
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