May 6, 2025 • 44 mins
Eric Williams is an actor, comedian, and podcast host based in Los Angeles. His podcast “That’s A Gay Ass Podcast” was recently named “One of the Best Podcasts To Listen To” by Glamour Magazine.
Eric also hosts the popular “That’s A Gay Ass Live Show,” a variety competition show that has been featured in the Netflix Is A Joke Fest, New York Comedy Festival, and multiple sold out engagements in New York and LA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm sorry, but they're going like this, you know, which
is very cliche gay kind of like thing right, and
I feel even embarrassed doing it, but they want me to.
They want me to go like this, right, like go
like you know what you're doing, you know what to do,
and you know it's like, go for it.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I don't know if there's something extra you want to do, well.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Can I tell you? Yes, I'm going to validate. I'm
going to validate. So here's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with decased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi guys, Welcome to ghost Therapy and
PROSA your medium for today. This was a reading that
(00:56):
I don't know it touched my heart so much. We
talked about grief. That's what I love about this podcast
because we talk about something that is for him, but
it really is for all of us, but not the
grief that we're used to. Not the grief of somebody dying,
the grief of past lives, the grief of when I
used to live in this city and now I live
(01:16):
in this city and I'm supposed to be happy. But
I'm not. And Eric Williams got a lot of info
given to him by his spirit guides telling him to grief.
Grieve that past life you had. Grieve that past house,
past car, past relationship, grieve it, cry, get mad, everything
(01:40):
you need to do so you can move on and
enjoy what's actually happening right now. It's a tricky thing
to do, but we learned a lot about it on
today's episode, so I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
This is Ghost Therapy.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Mister Eric Williams. Thank you so much for being here
Oncle's Therapy.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so into
this stuff and I'm buckled the brunch.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Of let's go, let's do this. You know what, when
you say I'm so into it, ah, that makes me
so happy because that means that you're you know, you're
open to whatever I am.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I've always been open to the universe, but in the
past few years I've really tried to lean into listening
to what she has to say. So this is the
perfect podcast for me.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That is awesome and so happy to have you here.
And you know what, everybody's I feel like everybody's going
through an awakening like you and we're slowly going into
a different world where all this is accepted and all
this in a way is received well and not we're
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not witches, even if.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We are witch, I support my witches.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, which he still has a shout out to all
the witches out there.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yes, yes, yes, Okay, Well would you like to talk
to today?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So I would love your opinion on this because I
mostly would like to hear from my guardian angels the
universe as a whole, because when it comes to people
who have passed, I have an interesting experience where I've
only had one living grandparent my whole life, and my
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other three gift grandparents either passed away before I was
born or when I was really really little. So it's
either I would love to hear just from my guardian angels,
or I do have two grandmothers, so I never met
who I would be curious if they were to come through.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Thank you for asking for my opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I believe that it is better to talk with your guides,
with your angels, because when you didn't meet your grandma
or anything, there's nothing that you can you know, like
have in common in a way, you know. But sometimes yeah,
that makes total sense for you absolutely. Okay, So I'm
gonna say a little better and I'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Great, Okay, here we go. The first thing they say
is they're saying it doesn't matter how many people you meet,
or it doesn't matter how many people you relate yourself with,
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you know, like kind of you know, who is it?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Who is does this make sense? I feel it could
be like kind of in the love area, but it's
like that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean I am I am married and I have
been with my husband for almost twelve years, so that
might be something about that. It also might be something
about my like really close friendships that are like by
my side forever.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, I feel like it's more like in the love area,
and that makes sense if you've been married so much.
They're like, there won't be one person that you can
meet that will be better you know, that will make
you feel like Okay, then no, maybe not like no,
this is the one, this is the real thing, and
there's no one better.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
For you than him.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, that's actually amazing to hear because we moved to
LA three years ago, okay, and we have you know,
been in a lot of transition because moving to a
new city, creating new friendships, and also my work has
gotten really busy, and it's sort of not even brought
space between us, but sort of giving us a new
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chapter of our relationship. And so we are of course
dealing with the growing pains of that, and luckily we
have a great couples therapists that we're talking to and
that we're working through things on. But I think that's
like a really great sign I hear, because yeah, you
relationships are hard.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Relationship as you were, I think everybody should have a
marriage therapist and there you know, and there's bee dial.
But most of all, you know what, when you said
that you that you moved to La, I can kind
of relate even more to the message because La is tricky.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
La is tricky. The people are tricky. They're you know,
they're they're in the shady you know, and and not everybody.
But but yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think it's it's funny because, especially in the entertainment
industry and also just LA, there are people that you
think are there for nice reasons or to connect a
meaningful way, and then you find that maybe there are
ulterior motives versus when you meet an actual great person,
you can really feel that energy. But I think you're right.
(07:09):
You have to sort of be a little bit on
guard when you make new relationships here totally just in
this industry too.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh definitely. I lived in LA for a while, and
now that I look back, I said, the thing that
I should have used as a filter, you know, for
friendships is how many years you've been in LA. You know.
It's like, oh, I've lived here on my life. No,
oh I've been here for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, it's like the ones that are barely you know,
getting into the thing, those are the good ones, you know,
because they're the same as you. You know, they're going
through the same thing, and you know it's it's different,
it's different. So I said, you know what, that made
sense to me, and I pass it on to you.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah sounds good. Okay, so good, good good. I'm glad
that you have the confirmation because, as you said, you're
going into a new chapter and this will help you
a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Thank you. I really know that really makes me feel.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Good, good, good good. Okay, let's it continue. There's something
about you that always wants to resolve everybody's problems or
everybody's deadlines. Yes, and yes and uh, and they're like no, no, no, no,
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no no, because it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Makes you go crazy. It makes your anxiety kind of elevate,
you know. And Uh, at the end of the day,
I feel like nobody thanks you, or maybe they do,
but at the end of the day, you have to
concentrate on what makes you better or what gets you
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to a better place, you see, because it's I feel
like nobody asks.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You to, but you do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean the word anxiety very much. I relate to Yes,
I'm a very anxious queen. And I think I think
what resonates with me there is that I tend to
worry about other people's feelings a lot more than I
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need to, in terms of like are they feeling okay?
Are they mad at me? Is did I do something wrong?
Are they Is there something I need to do to
fix how they are feeling? And I think that that's
something that adds to my like emotional burden versus just
like trying to be present with what I'm seeing and
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what I'm experiencing versus worrying about other people's experience.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Totally totally, I get which makes you a great person,
but it does Yeah, for the future. It really has
to you have to work on that.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's what they're saying. You have to work on it,
because exactly, you get drained, you get the anxiety, and
it's like, it's not even my problem, you know, And
I'm worried.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To other people. How other people perceive me or their
experiences are not my burden. It's not I cannot control
how other people feel. And I think I sometimes you know,
like I grew up as a people pleaser.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Ah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, yes, yes, it's like it's like I say, I
can't even control my feelings all the hell, you know.
But sometimes I don't know why we have to try,
and I don't know why we have to prove it
upon ourselves, like we can you know, help everybody make
feel better. Everybody's got their their road, everybody's got their
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you know, consequences to their decisions, so right, right, you know,
worry about Yeah, but I think that's something that if
you know that you do it, and if you know
that the world will keep on going even if you
don't help, that's where it's at.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That's where you need to be and that in that mindset. Okay,
totally awesome, Okay, we continue, are you grieving right now?
I feel grief in a way of did your dog
die or a cat or something like that?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
My no, I see, I do have a pet that
is my parents' dog that's like I'm very that I
love very much, that is has cancer and is like
kind of in the last year of his life. The
grief though, is also I mean, it's it's okay if
I tell you sort of what I think that might
be about.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yes, of course, yes, that would help a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I think I think that a lot of the grief
that I've been feeling lately is this idea of transition
when it comes to like my professional life, because a
lot of exciting things have happened. But it's also so,
like I've said, change a bit of the dynamic and
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my relationship and also made me a little more overwhelmed
with what people in my life are do I feel
really safe with? And also, yeah, kind of the grief
of like the old me as I'm going into the
new me. I think that's I'm definitely like struggling with that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, thank you for validating that, because that's what that
actually rings about. Even more, let me, this is what
they have to say about it. The problem with you,
and in particular because of who you are and your
feelings and is that you don't actually grieve it. You're
like you grief something that you have agrieved. I don't
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know if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It does.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's okay to be sad, it's okay to miss it.
It's okay, like and you have to cry about it,
and you have to be like, you know, but I'm
here now. But if you're always trying to advance, or
if you're always trying to go, yes, this is great
and good things are happening, why shouldn't shouldn't I be
super happy?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And it's like, yeah, you should, but you aren't. Okay,
what's happening?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, I never actually cried enough, you know, I never
actually like went off on somebody or whatever, like about
how mad I am that my relationship is now different.
It's not worse, it's just different. And you so all
of this. You have to share it, you have to
cry it, you have to grieve it and then get
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yourself back up.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, that makes so much sense. I think I'm
so focused on the next thing and the next thing
and the next thing, and I almost worry that if
I'm not constantly hustling or taking advantage, then I'm going
to miss out or that I am not doing the
right thing, and so I'm not actually experiencing the changes
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that how they're affecting me. Right, that makes total sense.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh my god, I'm so glad.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So exactly like you said, everything is going like this,
and I'm so happy for you, but definitely like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And also what they're saying is that try to not compare.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You know, the back with the deal with the new,
like that's what got you here.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So there's nothing wrong with being sad. There's nothing wrong
with being mad.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And then suddenly when you're like, okay, I'm over it,
then life changes again and then you're at another stage
and then it's like it never stops. And if you
know that, if you know that it never stops, if
you know that this is not your final destination, and
that makes you, you know, feel it even more because
maybe your dynamic has changed, but that's not gonna be forever.
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Maybe he's gonna work on something else, and maybe you know,
somebody's gonna get fired or something.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You never know. But the trick is to not get
installed in one when feeling of this is my life
and this is it, you know, And that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I do that a lot. I tend to think of
things in like black and white terms, whereas like this
is now my life forever, or this is going to
change everything or ruin everything. And I totally I think
you're right. I think it's like being present in feeling
the feelings now and knowing that if I'm present now,
no matter what, things change anyway, So I might as
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well not worry about the next thing, but just experience
what's happening in front of.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Me exactly, because then when something really cool happens, you're like,
oh my God, in all these months of worrying because
of this and this and that, and it happened anyway,
or it didn't happen anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh yeah, in between, I suffered. When you know, God
wants it to happen, when it wants it to happen. Good.
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm glad you were receptive to that, because I feel
it's a very big part of you, and it's a
very big part of all these changes right now.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah. I tend to worry. I think a lot about
the future and if things are going in the right direction,
and I think it stops me from feeling what I'm
feeling now.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Totally, totally, and as I see it, I do not
yet know what you do, but I see you very much,
like you said, advancing at a very fast pace.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Do you write? Are you a writer? Yes, that's what
I do.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Write, I write, and I perform.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And you perform too. Okay, I want to talk about
the writing because they want to talk about the writing
because they're they go like this, they want to talk
about how they want you to something about only writing
about one theme or one thing, you know, and they're like,
(16:54):
just because that's what you live or that's what you
are passionate about, doesn't mean everybody's basginate about the same
thing as you. So it's like, yes, do this, maybe
talk about a certain you know, write about a certain
theme or something, but then go ahead and talk to
a friend too, I don't know, a dad, a mom,
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and you know, get some feedback about their lives or
something that and then write about something because not everybody
can cater to what you like to write. Does this
make sense?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, so sort of allow myself to branch out to
other experiences. Yes, I think I think it's funny you
say that because I think that it almost connects to
some of the other things we've talked about, like worrying
and anxiety that I am not doing the right thing,
and it's actually okay to branch out of my own
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specific lane, right, and and also take a risk in
writing about other things, because yeah, I did just start
working on a new type of of project involving writing.
Oh that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Okay, great, Okay, So that means that they're validating it. Okay, good, good,
and keep on going with that, and now you know
how it relates to you performing.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Maybe they're two different things, but also the performing they're
like branch out.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean, I'm sorry, but they're going like this, you
know that, which is very cliche gay kind of like thing, right,
And I feel even embarrassed doing it, but they want
me to they want me to go like this, right,
like go like you know what you're doing, you know
what to do, and you know it's like go for it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't know if there's something extra you want to do.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, can I tell you? Yes, I'm gonna validate. I'm
gonna validate. So here's what's happening is I just wrote
a new show that I perform for the first time
like three weeks ago, and I just scheduled to do
it again here in LA and I'm doing it in
New York in July. And I feel this energy. I
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feel to like keep going, girl, And I had an
of anxiety leading up to it, and now I'm like
really excited to you know, slay it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Slay it. You know what you're doing, you do it well,
just please keep on going. And you know what the
anxiety they're like, so what if three people go and
see you? So what if three hundred? So what this
is about you? Just like I feel so passionate and
I don't know why, but it's like this is like you,
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This is you putting out there like your your your
emotions like everything.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So it's like who cares who goes and see you?
Who cares? That'll come later. It's like right now, it's
all about doing it for you.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And let me let me think thank the universe speaking
to you, because I love her to hear her say that.
I love to hear her say that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh, I'm so glad. I'm so glad you're hearing that.
And I'm so happy for you because I feel that like,
I feel like it's this is very important, but at
the same time it's not what's making you eat or
pay the rent. But at the same time, it's what
keeps you alive, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So oh yeah, I am on, I'm there. I'm like, yes,
spending so much time on these projects that don't yet
put the food on the table. But I do feel
in my gut that it is the right thing to do.
And eventually, will you know, put the food on the table.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Of course, definitely, and it will, I'm telling you it will.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You're not You're not there. God would not have put
you there if it was if it if he didn't
want you to succeed into that. You see what I'm saying,
Why would you be there? Why aren't you in Kentucky.
It's something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right, You're there for a reason, and you're there because
LA is inspiring. LA is cutthroat one percent, but it's inspiring.
You can just go to Starbucks and just by people
you see or what that. You know, you talk to everybody,
everything you everything you do in LA.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I feel that God, especially in the entertainment business, I
feel that God speaks to you, you know, like you
run into these weird ass people, but at the end
you learn something from them, or you get a connection
through them, or it's so weird.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean, ever since I moved here three years ago,
there it's sort of been like an accelerated experience of
putting my own work out, and I've absolutely seen really
positive things happen. But it's also there's been a lot
of growing pains and anxieties and fears. But I also
feel in my gut that I'm doing the right things.
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But it's it's hard not to overthink some of it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Absolutely, and I think you're right, it's really hard not
to overthink it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But then you have to go, Okay, if it goes well,
it goes well. If it doesn't go well, then next
one will go well. And I think you know that,
Like I don't even have to tell you. You know
that absolutely, But the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Writing you you are, you are good at it. So
branch out, branch out, Okay, Okay, totally, Okay, Let's see
what else.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Okay, this is very random. Sometimes random things come out,
but I say them anyway because sometimes they make sense. Okay, Yeah,
something about clothing, something about go to the next level
in terms of what you wear, I don't know. I
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don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I mean, I definitely need fashion help, so.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh then go get yourself some I like, get yourself so.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Funny because I I Meyrit. My husband is like beautiful,
has amazing fashion sense, and I do not have the
same skill or ability. And I sometimes just like phone
it in.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
You're right, You're you're either you're born with that or
you're not.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Don't feel bad, you know, I just like every time
I go I ask him like is this okay? Does
this work? And I do? I do. I do feel
like I need to up level the wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You really do, but you really do, because they're like,
let's up, up, up, you know, let's take it to
another level, you know what I feel like, get out
of your comfort zone. You know, like I would never
wear that shirt, wear the fucking shirt? Yes, yeah, and
they own it and then if you know, who cares.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I've always I have like dreamt of like have like
changing my style, like being able to like because like
you know, I love to chat. I love to be silly,
but sometimes I'm very afraid of like wearing anything outside
of like a blue T shirt or like whatever. And
I would love to be the type of girl that
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can walk out and be like, look at that loud pattern.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Right right, look at that and I like it?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Or look at that look at that blonde mustache with
the brown you know, it's like, whoever, you can paint
it back.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You can always go back to your old clothes. But
you know, and it's something that is related to your work.
So maybe it's like the first impression. Maybe how you
look is how they treat you something around that area.
So if you have that wonderful, beautiful boyfriend that, by
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the way, has fashion sense, go for it and take it,
you know, take a page from his book.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Can I take some of the closesmas closes?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Also, okay, it could be cheaper for now. And then
you know what, because if you let yourself like maybe
try on some clothes for him, then you know like,
oh I like this, Oh maybe this type of shirt,
and then when you go out and buy stuff, you
know what works for you totally right, instead of like
the T shirt and the oh please don't tell me
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you use Jim sneakers with jeans, just to just told
me you don't.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Do that all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yai.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
My husband one day we went to Disney with my
daughter and he's like, these are my comfortable gym shoes.
I'm wearing them with my jeans.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And a T shirt. I'm like, you're not wearing them, No,
you aren't.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I hit them from him because I's what's it to you?
I'm like, what's it to me? The pictures?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, okay, I haven't thought about this ince so long.
But when I so, I lived in New York City
for thirteen years and I went I went to college there.
And when I first moved to New York, I remember
walking down the street I had just come out of
the closet, and I would see like a cute guy,
and the cute guy and I would lock eyes and
then he would look down my body and his eyes
would always like catch my shoes. And because I was
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wearing like ugly sneakers with my jeans, and I remember,
I always been like, ooh, he's so into me. And
I would see him like see my shoes and be like.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
No, I see you later.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
The shoes have always been pretty pretty exactly. The shoes
have always sabotaged me. Sabotage my shoes.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now, you do you understand, Like, look at me saying
this to you, stop it, stop it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's not fashionable. That's why they invented other type of sneakers.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I love the stopping. I'm being dragged by the universe
for my fashion stents and I deserve it, and I
deserve it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You do, you do, and you know, and you know
what to do, and you don't do it, which is
even worse.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I need to up the shoe game, and that is heard.
The message received exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Thank you very much. I'm gonna check on you next
month and I want to see pictures. Okay, but it
really really does have to do I wouldn't mention it
if it didn't have to do with everything around you
and everything what you do so good. Oh my god,
I have to talk to my husband again today about okay,
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to see.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
What else is there.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Is mom yaking too much lately or always?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You know, it's a tough question. I will say that
I have a Jewish mother who I've always had a
close relationship to, But there's also been the question of
you know, what do I share and not share and
creating a healthy boundary distance and boundary and relationship, and
so that's absolutely been a part of my life oh
(27:50):
my god.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, when you said Jewish mom, I'm like, enough said,
I know, I know, I know, I know. Enough said,
this is what's happening right out with your mom that
they want to tell you because it's something about it's
like a coming of age thing. They want you to
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know that lately she's been feeling very lonely. It maybe
it doesn't have to do with your dad.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I don't know. I don't know what the dynamic is,
but she's feeling lonely. So right now, like the thing
is like talk to her, like let her but on
the phone. You know, it's like let her letter talk,
let her talk, and oh talk about the sister did
this and the cousin.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because she's needing that right now. And if you do
this for her, you'll get off on many things, Like
you'll get off the hook for many other things in
your mind, like oh wow, yeah, like maybe some guilt,
oh I'm not with her that much, or maybe guilt
that I sometimes you don't want to talk to her,
(29:05):
she's too nosy or something like that. If you give
her those fifteen minutes of letting her, it'll make a
world of difference because she's in that stage right now.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Okay, No, that's like, so it's so funny you say that,
because I just told my mom that I was not
able to fly to visit for Mother's Day and she
had a very you know, totally nice reaction. But I
do she has been saying that she wants me to visit,
and I've been feeling some guilt because I, you know,
(29:39):
live far I live, LA is far away from where
I'm from, Okay, but I think that there is an
opportunity for me to still be able to connect and
make her feel seen without traveling.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And the guilt of not traveling, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, it's because it's I think it's hard the older
that we get as adults and have and being there.
I'm very lucky to have, you know, both of my
parents and so so grateful to them. But it's also
like there's an interesting growing pain that you feel with
trying to be an adult and independent but also still
having a close relationship in a way that feels healthy
(30:22):
with your parents. And so that's what I've been experiencing
for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I think I've been twenty years trying to figure
it out. It doesn't happen yeah, because I think what
happens is that and I'm kind of saying this. I'm
saying it, but I think your GUIDs are saying it too.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
About they don't you evolve, but they don't evolve that much,
you know, because they're older. You know, evolution is for
you because you're younger, so they your role in that
family stays the same, right right, You're still fourteen to them,
or you're still eighteen, and they they don't notice it.
(31:01):
That's why they don't change, and that's why they don't
want to change anyway, you know. So it's all about
us changing for them and.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Us kind of like taking one for the team, taking
another one for the team, you know, because there's no
other way.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Well, that's I think that's the hard balance of like
knowing you know, okay, absolutely calling more is so doable.
But then there's other things like if I can't completely
uproot my life and visit as much as they want,
I can still stay where I am, but do the
things that make them still feel seen, and also like
(31:41):
still like cultivates our relationship.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It cultivates exactly, and you don't have to call her
maybe three times a day. With that one super call.
That's it, you know, and maybe some days you won't
feel like it. Maybe.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I mean it's a you know, I get home, I'm tired,
you know. But but at the end of the day,
it does it does help.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Them a lot. Your dad, I feel, is okay, like
your dad is okay, he's just still him to walk more.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Mm hmm okay, he's sitting around too much. And I
think that correct me if I'm wrong. I think he
can walk perfectly. Oh yeah, yeah, So so just tell
him to walk.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Around a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He's getting he's getting lazy. And when that happens, it
just turns into one thing and then another and then another,
and then.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Suddenly they're old and they can't get up from the chair.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yes, okay, I heard.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Okay, perfect, Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Let me see what else.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Who wants a cat? You want a cat? Your partner
wants a cat?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Nope, we have one. We have one dog that we
very much that no cat, No cats.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Okay, okay, keep that word in mind. Maybe it's for
a later thing. But I have to say about the
cat is like it's a yes. So maybe you know,
maybe in one year or two years, it'll be like,
oh yeah, Paula said it was a yes, you know,
maybe one comes into the housers.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know, but that cat, for some reason, will
make you very happy.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And can I tell you, yes, when I walk my dog,
there's a cat that we started to see on a
lot of our walks, and my dog is always really
enamored by it, right and.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Not in a bad way, like like.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
No, no, in a good way, in a good way.
And so maybe maybe that maybe it's that cat. Maybe
it's just a sign. Yeah, I'm going to be open
to the cat signed from the universe.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, because the cats and dogs things that's changing, that's
not you know, that's very coat.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I just saw a video yesterday about the cutest Golden
Retriever dog with a cat that was like so sweet.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, yeah, it used to not happen.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
There's been a lot of changes and energies the world lately,
and one there's a lot of a lot of things
that are happened that never happened. And the dog and
the cat ratio thing, they're all getting along for some reason.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Now, okay, okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I've been seeing it a lot in my readings.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Of the dog.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's so weird when we're taught that you can never
mix them up right, right, So just keep it in mind.
Maybe that that cat could be maybe another one. But
I do see a lot of white, So I don't
know if it's a white cat or not, but I
see white.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Okay, Okay, okay, take perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
What does your husband do? What is his job?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
He works for an influencer social media marketing agencies, so
he basically is the uh. He works between a giant
company and then these big influencers and he helps plan
all these big campaigns for companies Okay, for social media.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Okay, perfect, there's something I I think this is going
to be the right thing. Okay, because they're talking about
how your husband is gonna end up helping you You're
going to become an influencer with your new passion style.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It's it's it's totally possible that because a lot of
what I do, you know, I need to use social
media to to get the word out, and so there's
there's a chance that, you know, we could end up
working together on one of my projects.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
One of them, and it's like it's something very easy
for him, Like it's an area where he's like totally expertise,
and they say you just have to ask. Mm hmm, okay,
because I don't think you know. Sometimes you men, you
(36:00):
don't take cues. You don't you know, you have to
be told you don't, you know, and you're not that perceptive.
And it's like, just ask when when you think you
need it. Ask because he's gonna he's gonna kick ass
with you, because you're probably going to be like his
most important project. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, I love that. I mean I'm always, you know,
excited when I get to get help in anything, but
especially because he is so good at a lot of
that stuff and so so yeah, basically it's like when
the opportunity arises, I have to make sure to just
jump on it and ask.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You have him there? It's like, yeah, why not. I
love how you talk about your husband. That's like, so
far you said he's beautiful, great fashion sense, he's good
at what he does. Now I know the first validation.
Now I know why they were giving you that life.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, that means you're very much in love.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So oh and also I just want to continue a
little bit with that note. On that note that you
have to learn how to ask for favors also, like
that's very.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, Oh that's very yeah. I'm I'm constantly it's the
people pleasing to me. I'm like constantly worry that I'm
asking for too much or that i'm but.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Then when they ask you, you're like, yes, of course
I'll jump back from playing for you, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, So just on that note, because like
I said, like ask your husband and learn how to
ask for favors. And that makes sense in La because
in La, you know, it's all about that, Yeah, the
networking and all that. But I said, don't be afraid.
It's like the note. You already have the note, you know,
so don't be afraid of it. Okay, do you have
(37:49):
any questions so far?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I mean, you've landed on so many big things for me.
I think that my question is is when it comes
to like allowing myself to feel the grief or to
feel the feelings I'm having, is there anything that I
should do that will I'm constantly worried that I'm not
(38:15):
going to reach the goals that I want to reach.
Is there anything that I could be doing differently to
relax and know that they're gonna happen or is it
just about releasing control?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Got it? I hear you. Oh this is why I
love my podcast because these kind of things that you're asking.
It works for everybody. You know what I'm saying, Like,
whatever we get from here, this is going to be
for me, for him, for everybody. Okay, Okay, here it goes.
(38:51):
They're saying, you really don't know what's going to happen,
if it's going to go good or bad, you don't know.
But the thing that keeps you going in terms of anxiety,
in terms of standing still, is every single day you
have to put it upon yourself to say, maybe send
(39:13):
an email okay, or maybe you know that will help you.
Maybe look up on you know, on the internet or
on chat, GPT, something that interests you that you could
maybe write about. You don't have to write about it
that day, but you did.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Your two day those days and you did something that
advances in your career. And some days maybe because you know,
some days are like I don't want to get out
of bed, Okay, that's fine, but maybe during the day
go out to Starbucks and be like, I'm gonna talk
to one person today and you know who's in the
entertainment business. It's like we have a stamp. I don't
(39:51):
know how, but we have a stamp on our faces
or something. So be like, oh he looks okay or
she looks interesting. Okay, I'm gonna talk to her if
they don't want to find But you know, I did
it because I'm I'm advancing.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So do you get my drift?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, So basically making at least one move a day
that feels like it's furthering my creative goals and hopefully that,
you know, and that will lead to the professional gains
as well.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Exactly, and even if it doesn't lead to that, especially
you, your anxiety, you know, everything about you changes, you know,
because you're no I don't know, you're no thug on
the on the.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Count, right right, right, right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
You're doing something. Some days are good, some days are good. Yeah,
sound good?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
That makes total sense.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, I like that because like me too. Whenever
I'm like without a project, I say emails. I don't
even know these people, but you know, but I'm like, Okay,
I did something, God will do the rest.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I love that. I think it's especially for someone who
is not only anxious but always I'm someone who always
wants to be moving forward, but my anxiety tells me
that I'm never doing enough, and so I think just
even doing one thing and trusting that the rest will
come is really helpful to hear.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Absolutely, And also because you're in that industry where things
happen and then nothing happens, and then you have no money,
and then you have a lot of money. So it's like,
allow yourself to rest, allow yourself to.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Not do anything you already it's like going to the gym, like, Okay,
I already went to the gym. Okay, now I can
take a nap, work, now I can eat something. You know,
it's the same thing. You do your thing, and then
you're you're almost like I can rest because this is
the business because there's nothing more I can do today
and I did what I did.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You know, and allow yourself. It's not the same as
if you worked as a lawyer or something like right, No,
you know that it's back and forth or whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No, that's not your job. That's not what you were
born for. You were born for this industry and this
is how it goes. So you play the game and
don't feel guilty about it.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Absolutely, and like like, if there's a moment to rest,
it's okay to.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Rest, absolutely, because like I said, you put it out,
you do your thing, and then God, God does the rest.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
There's nothing you can do. You turn in a script,
what are you gonna do? Magic, No, it's all about
you closed doors.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
God is in there and he'll take care of it,
you know, or she yeah, well, yes, so let yourself rest.
And I mean it's awesome, it's awesome. But most of
us in the entertainment business, we're always feeling guilty about resting.
But then when we're working, Oh my god, do we
work right us? We hustle so much that people don't understand,
(42:54):
like how much because it's an emotional hustle and it's
a physical hustle.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Remember those days when you were very tired and you
couldn't rest, you know, those are the ones that it's
like rain checks. Now you're going to rest for all
that you've worked and all that you've done.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah. So if there's no other questions, nope, nope, alrighty okay,
so let me do it, just a little closing pair
in silence, God, Eric, I give you back your energy
and I take back mine. Oh it's perfect. Amen, awesome.
(43:38):
I thank you Like that was I think the best
reading I've had. Thank you so much. You're so exactive,
You're so nice. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I so appreciate you. I really love this type of
work and I think you're doing an amazing job and
I really have taken so much from it. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Oh, thank you so much. And I wish you, oh
my god, on all your ever. Just I'm not saying
it just because, but you are gonna do very well.
You are. It's just and I feel like it's all
about little projects.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Everywhere instead of like exactly now that makes a lot
of sense.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, that's gonna work for you. That's what's in the
stars for you. So keep going. You're gonna, you're gonna.
You're already there. It's just about you know, getting yourself inside.
But you're already there. You're good.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Thank you. No, that makes total sense. Well, thank you
so much. Having great rest of your day, and I
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Thank you to me too.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Bye bye.
I'm sorry, but they're going like this, you know, which
is very cliche gay kind of like thing right, and
I feel even embarrassed doing it, but they want me to.
They want me to go like this, right, like go
like you know what you're doing, you know what to do,
and you know it's like, go for it.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I don't know if there's something extra you want to do, well.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Can I tell you? Yes, I'm going to validate. I'm
going to validate. So here's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with decased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi guys, Welcome to ghost Therapy and
PROSA your medium for today. This was a reading that
(00:56):
I don't know it touched my heart so much. We
talked about grief. That's what I love about this podcast
because we talk about something that is for him, but
it really is for all of us, but not the
grief that we're used to. Not the grief of somebody dying,
the grief of past lives, the grief of when I
used to live in this city and now I live
(01:16):
in this city and I'm supposed to be happy. But
I'm not. And Eric Williams got a lot of info
given to him by his spirit guides telling him to grief.
Grieve that past life you had. Grieve that past house,
past car, past relationship, grieve it, cry, get mad, everything
(01:40):
you need to do so you can move on and
enjoy what's actually happening right now. It's a tricky thing
to do, but we learned a lot about it on
today's episode, so I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
This is Ghost Therapy.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Mister Eric Williams. Thank you so much for being here
Oncle's Therapy.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so into
this stuff and I'm buckled the brunch.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Of let's go, let's do this. You know what, when
you say I'm so into it, ah, that makes me
so happy because that means that you're you know, you're
open to whatever I am.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I've always been open to the universe, but in the
past few years I've really tried to lean into listening
to what she has to say. So this is the
perfect podcast for me.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That is awesome and so happy to have you here.
And you know what, everybody's I feel like everybody's going
through an awakening like you and we're slowly going into
a different world where all this is accepted and all
this in a way is received well and not we're
(03:07):
not witches, even if.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We are witch, I support my witches.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, which he still has a shout out to all
the witches out there.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yes, yes, yes, Okay, Well would you like to talk
to today?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So I would love your opinion on this because I
mostly would like to hear from my guardian angels the
universe as a whole, because when it comes to people
who have passed, I have an interesting experience where I've
only had one living grandparent my whole life, and my
(03:43):
other three gift grandparents either passed away before I was
born or when I was really really little. So it's
either I would love to hear just from my guardian angels,
or I do have two grandmothers, so I never met
who I would be curious if they were to come through.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Thank you for asking for my opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I believe that it is better to talk with your guides,
with your angels, because when you didn't meet your grandma
or anything, there's nothing that you can you know, like
have in common in a way, you know. But sometimes yeah,
that makes total sense for you absolutely. Okay, So I'm
gonna say a little better and I'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Great, Okay, here we go. The first thing they say
is they're saying it doesn't matter how many people you meet,
or it doesn't matter how many people you relate yourself with,
(04:46):
you know, like kind of you know, who is it?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Who is does this make sense? I feel it could
be like kind of in the love area, but it's
like that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean I am I am married and I have
been with my husband for almost twelve years, so that
might be something about that. It also might be something
about my like really close friendships that are like by
my side forever.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, I feel like it's more like in the love area,
and that makes sense if you've been married so much.
They're like, there won't be one person that you can
meet that will be better you know, that will make
you feel like Okay, then no, maybe not like no,
this is the one, this is the real thing, and
there's no one better.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
For you than him.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, that's actually amazing to hear because we moved to
LA three years ago, okay, and we have you know,
been in a lot of transition because moving to a
new city, creating new friendships, and also my work has
gotten really busy, and it's sort of not even brought
space between us, but sort of giving us a new
(06:03):
chapter of our relationship. And so we are of course
dealing with the growing pains of that, and luckily we
have a great couples therapists that we're talking to and
that we're working through things on. But I think that's
like a really great sign I hear, because yeah, you
relationships are hard.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Relationship as you were, I think everybody should have a
marriage therapist and there you know, and there's bee dial.
But most of all, you know what, when you said
that you that you moved to La, I can kind
of relate even more to the message because La is tricky.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
La is tricky. The people are tricky. They're you know,
they're they're in the shady you know, and and not everybody.
But but yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think it's it's funny because, especially in the entertainment
industry and also just LA, there are people that you
think are there for nice reasons or to connect a
meaningful way, and then you find that maybe there are
ulterior motives versus when you meet an actual great person,
you can really feel that energy. But I think you're right.
(07:09):
You have to sort of be a little bit on
guard when you make new relationships here totally just in
this industry too.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh definitely. I lived in LA for a while, and
now that I look back, I said, the thing that
I should have used as a filter, you know, for
friendships is how many years you've been in LA. You know.
It's like, oh, I've lived here on my life. No,
oh I've been here for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, it's like the ones that are barely you know,
getting into the thing, those are the good ones, you know,
because they're the same as you. You know, they're going
through the same thing, and you know it's it's different,
it's different. So I said, you know what, that made
sense to me, and I pass it on to you.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah sounds good. Okay, so good, good good. I'm glad
that you have the confirmation because, as you said, you're
going into a new chapter and this will help you
a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Thank you. I really know that really makes me feel.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Good, good, good good. Okay, let's it continue. There's something
about you that always wants to resolve everybody's problems or
everybody's deadlines. Yes, and yes and uh, and they're like no, no, no, no,
(08:27):
no no, because it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Makes you go crazy. It makes your anxiety kind of elevate,
you know. And Uh, at the end of the day,
I feel like nobody thanks you, or maybe they do,
but at the end of the day, you have to
concentrate on what makes you better or what gets you
(08:53):
to a better place, you see, because it's I feel
like nobody asks.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You to, but you do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean the word anxiety very much. I relate to Yes,
I'm a very anxious queen. And I think I think
what resonates with me there is that I tend to
worry about other people's feelings a lot more than I
(09:22):
need to, in terms of like are they feeling okay?
Are they mad at me? Is did I do something wrong?
Are they Is there something I need to do to
fix how they are feeling? And I think that that's
something that adds to my like emotional burden versus just
like trying to be present with what I'm seeing and
(09:43):
what I'm experiencing versus worrying about other people's experience.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Totally totally, I get which makes you a great person,
but it does Yeah, for the future. It really has
to you have to work on that.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's what they're saying. You have to work on it,
because exactly, you get drained, you get the anxiety, and
it's like, it's not even my problem, you know, And
I'm worried.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To other people. How other people perceive me or their
experiences are not my burden. It's not I cannot control
how other people feel. And I think I sometimes you know,
like I grew up as a people pleaser.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Ah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, yes, yes, it's like it's like I say, I
can't even control my feelings all the hell, you know.
But sometimes I don't know why we have to try,
and I don't know why we have to prove it
upon ourselves, like we can you know, help everybody make
feel better. Everybody's got their their road, everybody's got their
(10:44):
you know, consequences to their decisions, so right, right, you know,
worry about Yeah, but I think that's something that if
you know that you do it, and if you know
that the world will keep on going even if you
don't help, that's where it's at.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That's where you need to be and that in that mindset. Okay,
totally awesome, Okay, we continue, are you grieving right now?
I feel grief in a way of did your dog
die or a cat or something like that?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
My no, I see, I do have a pet that
is my parents' dog that's like I'm very that I
love very much, that is has cancer and is like
kind of in the last year of his life. The
grief though, is also I mean, it's it's okay if
I tell you sort of what I think that might
be about.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yes, of course, yes, that would help a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I think I think that a lot of the grief
that I've been feeling lately is this idea of transition
when it comes to like my professional life, because a
lot of exciting things have happened. But it's also so,
like I've said, change a bit of the dynamic and
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my relationship and also made me a little more overwhelmed
with what people in my life are do I feel
really safe with? And also, yeah, kind of the grief
of like the old me as I'm going into the
new me. I think that's I'm definitely like struggling with that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, thank you for validating that, because that's what that
actually rings about. Even more, let me, this is what
they have to say about it. The problem with you,
and in particular because of who you are and your
feelings and is that you don't actually grieve it. You're
like you grief something that you have agrieved. I don't
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know if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It does.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's okay to be sad, it's okay to miss it.
It's okay, like and you have to cry about it,
and you have to be like, you know, but I'm
here now. But if you're always trying to advance, or
if you're always trying to go, yes, this is great
and good things are happening, why shouldn't shouldn't I be
super happy?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And it's like, yeah, you should, but you aren't. Okay,
what's happening?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, I never actually cried enough, you know, I never
actually like went off on somebody or whatever, like about
how mad I am that my relationship is now different.
It's not worse, it's just different. And you so all
of this. You have to share it, you have to
cry it, you have to grieve it and then get
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yourself back up.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, that makes so much sense. I think I'm
so focused on the next thing and the next thing
and the next thing, and I almost worry that if
I'm not constantly hustling or taking advantage, then I'm going
to miss out or that I am not doing the
right thing, and so I'm not actually experiencing the changes
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that how they're affecting me. Right, that makes total sense.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh my god, I'm so glad.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So exactly like you said, everything is going like this,
and I'm so happy for you, but definitely like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And also what they're saying is that try to not compare.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You know, the back with the deal with the new,
like that's what got you here.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So there's nothing wrong with being sad. There's nothing wrong
with being mad.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And then suddenly when you're like, okay, I'm over it,
then life changes again and then you're at another stage
and then it's like it never stops. And if you
know that, if you know that it never stops, if
you know that this is not your final destination, and
that makes you, you know, feel it even more because
maybe your dynamic has changed, but that's not gonna be forever.
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Maybe he's gonna work on something else, and maybe you know,
somebody's gonna get fired or something.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You never know. But the trick is to not get
installed in one when feeling of this is my life
and this is it, you know, And that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I do that a lot. I tend to think of
things in like black and white terms, whereas like this
is now my life forever, or this is going to
change everything or ruin everything. And I totally I think
you're right. I think it's like being present in feeling
the feelings now and knowing that if I'm present now,
no matter what, things change anyway, So I might as
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well not worry about the next thing, but just experience
what's happening in front of.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Me exactly, because then when something really cool happens, you're like,
oh my God, in all these months of worrying because
of this and this and that, and it happened anyway,
or it didn't happen anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh yeah, in between, I suffered. When you know, God
wants it to happen, when it wants it to happen. Good.
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm glad you were receptive to that, because I feel
it's a very big part of you, and it's a
very big part of all these changes right now.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah. I tend to worry. I think a lot about
the future and if things are going in the right direction,
and I think it stops me from feeling what I'm
feeling now.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Totally, totally, and as I see it, I do not
yet know what you do, but I see you very much,
like you said, advancing at a very fast pace.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Do you write? Are you a writer? Yes, that's what
I do.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Write, I write, and I perform.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And you perform too. Okay, I want to talk about
the writing because they want to talk about the writing
because they're they go like this, they want to talk
about how they want you to something about only writing
about one theme or one thing, you know, and they're like,
(16:54):
just because that's what you live or that's what you
are passionate about, doesn't mean everybody's basginate about the same
thing as you. So it's like, yes, do this, maybe
talk about a certain you know, write about a certain
theme or something, but then go ahead and talk to
a friend too, I don't know, a dad, a mom,
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and you know, get some feedback about their lives or
something that and then write about something because not everybody
can cater to what you like to write. Does this
make sense?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, so sort of allow myself to branch out to
other experiences. Yes, I think I think it's funny you
say that because I think that it almost connects to
some of the other things we've talked about, like worrying
and anxiety that I am not doing the right thing,
and it's actually okay to branch out of my own
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specific lane, right, and and also take a risk in
writing about other things, because yeah, I did just start
working on a new type of of project involving writing.
Oh that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Okay, great, Okay, So that means that they're validating it. Okay, good, good,
and keep on going with that, and now you know
how it relates to you performing.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Maybe they're two different things, but also the performing they're
like branch out.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean, I'm sorry, but they're going like this, you
know that, which is very cliche gay kind of like thing, right,
And I feel even embarrassed doing it, but they want
me to they want me to go like this, right,
like go like you know what you're doing, you know
what to do, and you know it's like go for it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't know if there's something extra you want to do.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, can I tell you? Yes, I'm gonna validate. I'm
gonna validate. So here's what's happening is I just wrote
a new show that I perform for the first time
like three weeks ago, and I just scheduled to do
it again here in LA and I'm doing it in
New York in July. And I feel this energy. I
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feel to like keep going, girl, And I had an
of anxiety leading up to it, and now I'm like
really excited to you know, slay it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Slay it. You know what you're doing, you do it well,
just please keep on going. And you know what the
anxiety they're like, so what if three people go and
see you? So what if three hundred? So what this
is about you? Just like I feel so passionate and
I don't know why, but it's like this is like you,
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This is you putting out there like your your your
emotions like everything.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So it's like who cares who goes and see you?
Who cares? That'll come later. It's like right now, it's
all about doing it for you.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And let me let me think thank the universe speaking
to you, because I love her to hear her say that.
I love to hear her say that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh, I'm so glad. I'm so glad you're hearing that.
And I'm so happy for you because I feel that like,
I feel like it's this is very important, but at
the same time it's not what's making you eat or
pay the rent. But at the same time, it's what
keeps you alive, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So oh yeah, I am on, I'm there. I'm like, yes,
spending so much time on these projects that don't yet
put the food on the table. But I do feel
in my gut that it is the right thing to do.
And eventually, will you know, put the food on the table.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Of course, definitely, and it will, I'm telling you it will.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You're not You're not there. God would not have put
you there if it was if it if he didn't
want you to succeed into that. You see what I'm saying,
Why would you be there? Why aren't you in Kentucky.
It's something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right, You're there for a reason, and you're there because
LA is inspiring. LA is cutthroat one percent, but it's inspiring.
You can just go to Starbucks and just by people
you see or what that. You know, you talk to everybody,
everything you everything you do in LA.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I feel that God, especially in the entertainment business, I
feel that God speaks to you, you know, like you
run into these weird ass people, but at the end
you learn something from them, or you get a connection
through them, or it's so weird.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean, ever since I moved here three years ago,
there it's sort of been like an accelerated experience of
putting my own work out, and I've absolutely seen really
positive things happen. But it's also there's been a lot
of growing pains and anxieties and fears. But I also
feel in my gut that I'm doing the right things.
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But it's it's hard not to overthink some of it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Absolutely, and I think you're right, it's really hard not
to overthink it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But then you have to go, Okay, if it goes well,
it goes well. If it doesn't go well, then next
one will go well. And I think you know that,
Like I don't even have to tell you. You know
that absolutely, But the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Writing you you are, you are good at it. So
branch out, branch out, Okay, Okay, totally, Okay, Let's see
what else.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Okay, this is very random. Sometimes random things come out,
but I say them anyway because sometimes they make sense. Okay, Yeah,
something about clothing, something about go to the next level
in terms of what you wear, I don't know. I
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don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I mean, I definitely need fashion help, so.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh then go get yourself some I like, get yourself so.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Funny because I I Meyrit. My husband is like beautiful,
has amazing fashion sense, and I do not have the
same skill or ability. And I sometimes just like phone
it in.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
You're right, You're you're either you're born with that or
you're not.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Don't feel bad, you know, I just like every time
I go I ask him like is this okay? Does
this work? And I do? I do. I do feel
like I need to up level the wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You really do, but you really do, because they're like,
let's up, up, up, you know, let's take it to
another level, you know what I feel like, get out
of your comfort zone. You know, like I would never
wear that shirt, wear the fucking shirt? Yes, yeah, and
they own it and then if you know, who cares.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I've always I have like dreamt of like have like
changing my style, like being able to like because like
you know, I love to chat. I love to be silly,
but sometimes I'm very afraid of like wearing anything outside
of like a blue T shirt or like whatever. And
I would love to be the type of girl that
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can walk out and be like, look at that loud pattern.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Right right, look at that and I like it?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Or look at that look at that blonde mustache with
the brown you know, it's like, whoever, you can paint
it back.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You can always go back to your old clothes. But
you know, and it's something that is related to your work.
So maybe it's like the first impression. Maybe how you
look is how they treat you something around that area.
So if you have that wonderful, beautiful boyfriend that, by
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the way, has fashion sense, go for it and take it,
you know, take a page from his book.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Can I take some of the closesmas closes?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Also, okay, it could be cheaper for now. And then
you know what, because if you let yourself like maybe
try on some clothes for him, then you know like,
oh I like this, Oh maybe this type of shirt,
and then when you go out and buy stuff, you
know what works for you totally right, instead of like
the T shirt and the oh please don't tell me
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you use Jim sneakers with jeans, just to just told
me you don't.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Do that all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yai.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
My husband one day we went to Disney with my
daughter and he's like, these are my comfortable gym shoes.
I'm wearing them with my jeans.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And a T shirt. I'm like, you're not wearing them, No,
you aren't.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I hit them from him because I's what's it to you?
I'm like, what's it to me? The pictures?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, okay, I haven't thought about this ince so long.
But when I so, I lived in New York City
for thirteen years and I went I went to college there.
And when I first moved to New York, I remember
walking down the street I had just come out of
the closet, and I would see like a cute guy,
and the cute guy and I would lock eyes and
then he would look down my body and his eyes
would always like catch my shoes. And because I was
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wearing like ugly sneakers with my jeans, and I remember,
I always been like, ooh, he's so into me. And
I would see him like see my shoes and be like.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
No, I see you later.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
The shoes have always been pretty pretty exactly. The shoes
have always sabotaged me. Sabotage my shoes.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now, you do you understand, Like, look at me saying
this to you, stop it, stop it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's not fashionable. That's why they invented other type of sneakers.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I love the stopping. I'm being dragged by the universe
for my fashion stents and I deserve it, and I
deserve it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You do, you do, and you know, and you know
what to do, and you don't do it, which is
even worse.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I need to up the shoe game, and that is heard.
The message received exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Thank you very much. I'm gonna check on you next
month and I want to see pictures. Okay, but it
really really does have to do I wouldn't mention it
if it didn't have to do with everything around you
and everything what you do so good. Oh my god,
I have to talk to my husband again today about okay,
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to see.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
What else is there.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Is mom yaking too much lately or always?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You know, it's a tough question. I will say that
I have a Jewish mother who I've always had a
close relationship to, But there's also been the question of
you know, what do I share and not share and
creating a healthy boundary distance and boundary and relationship, and
so that's absolutely been a part of my life oh
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my god.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, when you said Jewish mom, I'm like, enough said,
I know, I know, I know, I know. Enough said,
this is what's happening right out with your mom that
they want to tell you because it's something about it's
like a coming of age thing. They want you to
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know that lately she's been feeling very lonely. It maybe
it doesn't have to do with your dad.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I don't know. I don't know what the dynamic is,
but she's feeling lonely. So right now, like the thing
is like talk to her, like let her but on
the phone. You know, it's like let her letter talk,
let her talk, and oh talk about the sister did
this and the cousin.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because she's needing that right now. And if you do
this for her, you'll get off on many things, Like
you'll get off the hook for many other things in
your mind, like oh wow, yeah, like maybe some guilt,
oh I'm not with her that much, or maybe guilt
that I sometimes you don't want to talk to her,
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she's too nosy or something like that. If you give
her those fifteen minutes of letting her, it'll make a
world of difference because she's in that stage right now.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Okay, No, that's like, so it's so funny you say that,
because I just told my mom that I was not
able to fly to visit for Mother's Day and she
had a very you know, totally nice reaction. But I
do she has been saying that she wants me to visit,
and I've been feeling some guilt because I, you know,
(29:39):
live far I live, LA is far away from where
I'm from, Okay, but I think that there is an
opportunity for me to still be able to connect and
make her feel seen without traveling.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And the guilt of not traveling, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, it's because it's I think it's hard the older
that we get as adults and have and being there.
I'm very lucky to have, you know, both of my
parents and so so grateful to them. But it's also
like there's an interesting growing pain that you feel with
trying to be an adult and independent but also still
having a close relationship in a way that feels healthy
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with your parents. And so that's what I've been experiencing
for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I think I've been twenty years trying to figure
it out. It doesn't happen yeah, because I think what
happens is that and I'm kind of saying this. I'm
saying it, but I think your GUIDs are saying it too.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
About they don't you evolve, but they don't evolve that much,
you know, because they're older. You know, evolution is for
you because you're younger, so they your role in that
family stays the same, right right, You're still fourteen to them,
or you're still eighteen, and they they don't notice it.
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That's why they don't change, and that's why they don't
want to change anyway, you know. So it's all about
us changing for them and.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Us kind of like taking one for the team, taking
another one for the team, you know, because there's no
other way.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Well, that's I think that's the hard balance of like
knowing you know, okay, absolutely calling more is so doable.
But then there's other things like if I can't completely
uproot my life and visit as much as they want,
I can still stay where I am, but do the
things that make them still feel seen, and also like
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still like cultivates our relationship.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It cultivates exactly, and you don't have to call her
maybe three times a day. With that one super call.
That's it, you know, and maybe some days you won't
feel like it. Maybe.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I mean it's a you know, I get home, I'm tired,
you know. But but at the end of the day,
it does it does help.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Them a lot. Your dad, I feel, is okay, like
your dad is okay, he's just still him to walk more.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Mm hmm okay, he's sitting around too much. And I
think that correct me if I'm wrong. I think he
can walk perfectly. Oh yeah, yeah, So so just tell
him to walk.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Around a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He's getting he's getting lazy. And when that happens, it
just turns into one thing and then another and then another,
and then.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Suddenly they're old and they can't get up from the chair.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yes, okay, I heard.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Okay, perfect, Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Let me see what else.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Who wants a cat? You want a cat? Your partner
wants a cat?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Nope, we have one. We have one dog that we
very much that no cat, No cats.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Okay, okay, keep that word in mind. Maybe it's for
a later thing. But I have to say about the
cat is like it's a yes. So maybe you know,
maybe in one year or two years, it'll be like,
oh yeah, Paula said it was a yes, you know,
maybe one comes into the housers.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know, but that cat, for some reason, will
make you very happy.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And can I tell you, yes, when I walk my dog,
there's a cat that we started to see on a
lot of our walks, and my dog is always really
enamored by it, right and.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Not in a bad way, like like.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
No, no, in a good way, in a good way.
And so maybe maybe that maybe it's that cat. Maybe
it's just a sign. Yeah, I'm going to be open
to the cat signed from the universe.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, because the cats and dogs things that's changing, that's
not you know, that's very coat.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I just saw a video yesterday about the cutest Golden
Retriever dog with a cat that was like so sweet.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, yeah, it used to not happen.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
There's been a lot of changes and energies the world lately,
and one there's a lot of a lot of things
that are happened that never happened. And the dog and
the cat ratio thing, they're all getting along for some reason.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Now, okay, okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I've been seeing it a lot in my readings.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Of the dog.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's so weird when we're taught that you can never
mix them up right, right, So just keep it in mind.
Maybe that that cat could be maybe another one. But
I do see a lot of white, So I don't
know if it's a white cat or not, but I
see white.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Okay, Okay, okay, take perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
What does your husband do? What is his job?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
He works for an influencer social media marketing agencies, so
he basically is the uh. He works between a giant
company and then these big influencers and he helps plan
all these big campaigns for companies Okay, for social media.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Okay, perfect, there's something I I think this is going
to be the right thing. Okay, because they're talking about
how your husband is gonna end up helping you You're
going to become an influencer with your new passion style.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It's it's it's totally possible that because a lot of
what I do, you know, I need to use social
media to to get the word out, and so there's
there's a chance that, you know, we could end up
working together on one of my projects.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
One of them, and it's like it's something very easy
for him, Like it's an area where he's like totally expertise,
and they say you just have to ask. Mm hmm, okay,
because I don't think you know. Sometimes you men, you
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don't take cues. You don't you know, you have to
be told you don't, you know, and you're not that perceptive.
And it's like, just ask when when you think you
need it. Ask because he's gonna he's gonna kick ass
with you, because you're probably going to be like his
most important project. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, I love that. I mean I'm always, you know,
excited when I get to get help in anything, but
especially because he is so good at a lot of
that stuff and so so yeah, basically it's like when
the opportunity arises, I have to make sure to just
jump on it and ask.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You have him there? It's like, yeah, why not. I
love how you talk about your husband. That's like, so
far you said he's beautiful, great fashion sense, he's good
at what he does. Now I know the first validation.
Now I know why they were giving you that life.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, that means you're very much in love.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So oh and also I just want to continue a
little bit with that note. On that note that you
have to learn how to ask for favors also, like
that's very.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, Oh that's very yeah. I'm I'm constantly it's the
people pleasing to me. I'm like constantly worry that I'm
asking for too much or that i'm but.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Then when they ask you, you're like, yes, of course
I'll jump back from playing for you, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, So just on that note, because like
I said, like ask your husband and learn how to
ask for favors. And that makes sense in La because
in La, you know, it's all about that, Yeah, the
networking and all that. But I said, don't be afraid.
It's like the note. You already have the note, you know,
so don't be afraid of it. Okay, do you have
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any questions so far?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I mean, you've landed on so many big things for me.
I think that my question is is when it comes
to like allowing myself to feel the grief or to
feel the feelings I'm having, is there anything that I
should do that will I'm constantly worried that I'm not
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going to reach the goals that I want to reach.
Is there anything that I could be doing differently to
relax and know that they're gonna happen or is it
just about releasing control?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Got it? I hear you. Oh this is why I
love my podcast because these kind of things that you're asking.
It works for everybody. You know what I'm saying, Like,
whatever we get from here, this is going to be
for me, for him, for everybody. Okay, Okay, here it goes.
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They're saying, you really don't know what's going to happen,
if it's going to go good or bad, you don't know.
But the thing that keeps you going in terms of anxiety,
in terms of standing still, is every single day you
have to put it upon yourself to say, maybe send
(39:13):
an email okay, or maybe you know that will help you.
Maybe look up on you know, on the internet or
on chat, GPT, something that interests you that you could
maybe write about. You don't have to write about it
that day, but you did.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Your two day those days and you did something that
advances in your career. And some days maybe because you know,
some days are like I don't want to get out
of bed, Okay, that's fine, but maybe during the day
go out to Starbucks and be like, I'm gonna talk
to one person today and you know who's in the
entertainment business. It's like we have a stamp. I don't
(39:51):
know how, but we have a stamp on our faces
or something. So be like, oh he looks okay or
she looks interesting. Okay, I'm gonna talk to her if
they don't want to find But you know, I did
it because I'm I'm advancing.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So do you get my drift?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, So basically making at least one move a day
that feels like it's furthering my creative goals and hopefully that,
you know, and that will lead to the professional gains
as well.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Exactly, and even if it doesn't lead to that, especially
you, your anxiety, you know, everything about you changes, you know,
because you're no I don't know, you're no thug on
the on the.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Count, right right, right, right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
You're doing something. Some days are good, some days are good. Yeah,
sound good?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
That makes total sense.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, I like that because like me too. Whenever
I'm like without a project, I say emails. I don't
even know these people, but you know, but I'm like, Okay,
I did something, God will do the rest.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I love that. I think it's especially for someone who
is not only anxious but always I'm someone who always
wants to be moving forward, but my anxiety tells me
that I'm never doing enough, and so I think just
even doing one thing and trusting that the rest will
come is really helpful to hear.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Absolutely, And also because you're in that industry where things
happen and then nothing happens, and then you have no money,
and then you have a lot of money. So it's like,
allow yourself to rest, allow yourself to.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Not do anything you already it's like going to the gym, like, Okay,
I already went to the gym. Okay, now I can
take a nap, work, now I can eat something. You know,
it's the same thing. You do your thing, and then
you're you're almost like I can rest because this is
the business because there's nothing more I can do today
and I did what I did.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You know, and allow yourself. It's not the same as
if you worked as a lawyer or something like right, No,
you know that it's back and forth or whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No, that's not your job. That's not what you were
born for. You were born for this industry and this
is how it goes. So you play the game and
don't feel guilty about it.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Absolutely, and like like, if there's a moment to rest,
it's okay to.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Rest, absolutely, because like I said, you put it out,
you do your thing, and then God, God does the rest.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
There's nothing you can do. You turn in a script,
what are you gonna do? Magic, No, it's all about
you closed doors.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
God is in there and he'll take care of it,
you know, or she yeah, well, yes, so let yourself rest.
And I mean it's awesome, it's awesome. But most of
us in the entertainment business, we're always feeling guilty about resting.
But then when we're working, Oh my god, do we
work right us? We hustle so much that people don't understand,
(42:54):
like how much because it's an emotional hustle and it's
a physical hustle.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Remember those days when you were very tired and you
couldn't rest, you know, those are the ones that it's
like rain checks. Now you're going to rest for all
that you've worked and all that you've done.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah. So if there's no other questions, nope, nope, alrighty okay,
so let me do it, just a little closing pair
in silence, God, Eric, I give you back your energy
and I take back mine. Oh it's perfect. Amen, awesome.
(43:38):
I thank you Like that was I think the best
reading I've had. Thank you so much. You're so exactive,
You're so nice. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I so appreciate you. I really love this type of
work and I think you're doing an amazing job and
I really have taken so much from it. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Oh, thank you so much. And I wish you, oh
my god, on all your ever. Just I'm not saying
it just because, but you are gonna do very well.
You are. It's just and I feel like it's all
about little projects.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Everywhere instead of like exactly now that makes a lot
of sense.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, that's gonna work for you. That's what's in the
stars for you. So keep going. You're gonna, you're gonna.
You're already there. It's just about you know, getting yourself inside.
But you're already there. You're good.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Thank you. No, that makes total sense. Well, thank you
so much. Having great rest of your day, and I
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Thank you to me too.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Bye bye.
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