April 29, 2025 • 35 mins
Frida Sternbach - Co Host and Producer of the podcast "Wait, Qué?"
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I love that. I love being like watching us try
to connect because we ran into so many things through
the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Lorda Mercy, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy. I'MSA
this time around. Oh my god, I don't know how
(00:30):
to explain this. We had our guest Freddy that Sturnbeck,
which she's an awesome podcaster, and okay, this has never
happened before. Now that I am doing this podcast, really
weird things happen which never happened to me in other readings.
This time around me. The session was canceled two times.
(00:53):
This was our third and tent and then suddenly we
were talking about her dad and all the lights went
out in the studio, like complete blackout. We had no
idea why, uh than goodness, we have a studio in
Los Angeles which backs everything up and which you will
(01:14):
you will, you will hear uh. And it was crazy
And that was because he was she was describing her
dad and she said, it's definitely my dad because he
was such a prankster. He loved to do that to
all of us and anything. And he was an electric engineer,
so that made a lot of sense. And weird, happy,
(01:35):
weird things happened during the whole the whole session. It
was incredible. I really hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's crazy. Welcome to Gohol's therapy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, mister Ygando ste no symbols mutu and subida pero
ma save it too much? Lock locky, simple ja. Do
(02:44):
you know why it's a plural thing.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's weird that it's a plural thing because so of
the people that I'm thinking that could Ben's just him.
It might have just been one person in any case,
so it's either my dad or like all these other
people that have passed that. Like, I don't know, I
don't know why a plural would be a thing. I
think it would have to look into it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, okay, but there is some this feeling, this feeling
of of you know, like I went, I was too
much on top of you, you know, I was too
much like trying to run your life or something or
kind of wanting you to do what he or she wanted.
(03:27):
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So here's the thing, not with my dad at all
because of two things. Like he passed when I was
kind of young. I was a teenager, I was almost fifteen,
so like, of course he was very involved in my life,
like I had little to know independence as a teenager.
But at the same time he was very into giving
me like this basic like be whoever I wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Of course, yeah, I don't think that is then that's
your thought.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
On the other hand, if I had to guess, and
this is not a negative at all, but my grandfather
was very involved in my life in a good way,
Like he was always very interested, like what are you doing?
What are you up to? So like maybe to that route.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I I think, whatever it is, it it is nothing bad.
But he feels like like like he sees it now
from a different perspective, you know, as when he was alive.
But there's something about saying I'm sorry because I feel
(04:24):
like it was kind of like an invasion of privacy
sometimes and you feel yeah, and kind of most of
all that you felt it that way, you know, or
something like that, because and he feels like he was
like that information Enrique and Americans information.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But everyone called them hans Han Okay, I'm not said
on that it doesn't have to be Hans.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, it's very eloquent.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, I'm not I'm not said on the fact that
this was him, though.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Let me let me, let me give you more info
and then maybe we can narrow it down. Okay. One
energy that is here is very like like very accelerated energy.
I told you, And there's something that I told you,
So I don't know what it is. Hold on, I
(05:36):
don't know if it's here or is she? But it's
a very like you know, and somehow like I don't
know if he or she expected this from everybody or
if she was like the only one that was like
I'm saying she's is it is she?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's like if the person that's ringing a bell is
he is a he?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Okay, And and he's like like too much, you know,
like calm down, you know, like the energy was very
it's very, very high. And he's like validating in some
weird way that he was always right. Okay, And he's
(06:17):
kind of making fun of the fact that now he
knows that a lot of people kind of ran the
other direction when they would see him.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Come okay, this this could be.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Okay, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Uncle?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, obviously he didn't know that when he was alive.
But he's like, people will would run away from me,
like literally because I was too much.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And then.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And he's like, but I was always right anyway, like
very self centered kind of energy. But he's very funny.
He's very very funny. Was he gay? Yes, Okay, then
that's him. He's like, I don't care. He's like, I
(07:08):
don't care. Tell them I'm gay. That's me. I don't care.
Oh god, Okay, so that's ricky. You see, I don't
control who comes in and who comes out.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No, I know I had a feeling that he could.
He could definitely visit.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Okay, perfect, Okay, let me see what he has to say.
He's telling you this is like personal, like in your
life right now. He's saying, you know what, you're not
exploring enough things something about yeah that rings a bell?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And he and being the the way that he is
obviously to him, it's double you know. So he's like,
explore kind of don't get comfortable.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay. And also he's showing me kind of I feel
like you're very isolated or you don't go out much
or something around those lines, because I well, I no,
go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, I recently moved. I was around all my friends,
and I moved to a new place just with my partner,
and so we are here together. But it's not like
we've made a ton of like a huge group of
friends just yet, like we just moved.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, Okay, that makes sense, Okay, thank you, thank you
for validating that. He's like, get out, girl, like you know,
do what you have to do because for him, like
he feels like you are not the type of person
to be isolated, you know, or to immerse yourself maybe
(08:49):
in work or in your partner. He's like, you need
to do so much more still and if you stop
or if you slow down, everything else will slow down
with you. And we don't want that. Okay, all right, okay,
let me see, and your your grandfather is Enrique or
(09:12):
hands haunts Daniel, and then we have one.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Other is my other grandfather.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And this is daddy's side, right, yes, squattro, And they're
showing me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's kind of like a lot of throwing up a
lot of just like very uh sick. Does this ring
a bell? Or your grandfather's or your dad, because I
feel you were present for this.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I was really only present for my dad, Okay, I
never I don't think I remember seeing a lot of
that specifically, but yeah, he was sick for some time,
and I was definitely there for like the last few
weeks that were pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That were pretty bad, okay, because I feel like, yeah,
this is like a long like kind of a long thing,
like a very it kind of like extended. And I
don't know, he's showing me his hair for some reason.
And I don't know if he lost his hair because
of his sickness. No he did, okay, or your grandparents,
(10:42):
your granddad maybe you know. But yeah, they're showing me
a lot of like throwing up, like beside the bed,
like not even getting up because it was too like
they were too weak to actually get up. Who sounds
like that your dad?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It might have been my dad.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, we'll see, well maybe yeah, maybe, yeah, okay. And
he's he's laughing. He's like watching them watching me was
so annoying. Okay. Yeah, so like like eyes on him
all the time. He's like, you know, I don't know,
maybe the last weeks, but like before it was like
(11:24):
I wasn't that bad, you know or whatever. And he's like, so,
I don't know if he was like in a bad
mood for the last time or or something, but yeah,
he was like, it's because you were just constantly watching me.
It's like, leave me alone. I wanted to be left alone.
But he wants to make this clear because he doesn't
want you to think that he was mad at you guys,
(11:47):
or that he was you know, it's not it was it.
He was just he really wanted to let be left alone.
He's like, I wanted to fart or something, you know,
like but you know, but you guys wouldn't let me.
Uh And and then he goes like, but anyway, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Whatever it was, it was for a good reason.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, that sounds like that sounds a good dad.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, I feel would it be accurate if I tell
you that your dad that you felt that your dad
wasn't supportive enough of what you wanted to do?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
He was super supportive.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Opposite.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Okay, does it ring a bell something about something about
you being I don't want to say rude because rude
is not the word, but just like very opinionated or
I don't know it very direct that he did not
like that. You know, maybe he did. He supported you,
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but he didn't support the way you say it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Or I think, yeah, he was very against like sounding Maria,
you know, like he was very like respect, oh, respect
your elders, like you can have all the opinions you want,
but like, yeah, make sure that you're saying them in
the right way. Yeah that does sound like.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, okay, and not saying that you were disrespectful. It's
just like the kind of like a generation thing, you know,
like I was speaking your mind, speaking your mind, and
he would he goes like this because like grabbing his forehead,
like saying, oh, like you know, he had trouble with
you because you were so out there.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You know. Yeah, that's accurate for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But now he's like, but I'm proud of her. He's
like love, I love who she is. I love who
she is and who she's turned out to be. I
think that if I would have in a way been
alive all this time, maybe things wouldn't have worked out
well for you. Not well, but so the same way
(13:58):
that they've worked out, because you feel more free and
you you you're kind of you kind of grew into
your own, you know, and he's so proud. Yeah, he's
very proud of you. I think this is kind of
like work wise in a little bit personal. He's like,
(14:23):
don't do anybody any favors. Stop it, you know, or
like or maybe this is for the future, but he's like, no, no, no, no,
everybody counts. Everybody's worth it. Like he knows you're very nice,
but he also knows that you've got you know, you've
(14:43):
got character, and and he's like, I need you to
I feel like you're not surrounded, but you have men
probably some people that want to take advantage of you
or may want to Okay, okay, And also like don't
(15:10):
ask for any favors and don't give out, which is weird,
you know, because we're always supposed to learn that we're
that we can do favors. But this is more about
like work and about you advancing and about you, you know,
getting what you deserve more than anything else. Does this
make sense?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, yeah, it does make sense, especially I worked in
communications for a really long time, like social media and
stuff in a world where like social media I think
is still taking as like can you run this Instagram account?
For me, like it's nothing and totally don't really get
paid enough, and like, yeah, I definitely learned a lot
of those years that it's not taken as like real
(15:51):
hard work totally as much, maybe not a little bit more. Yeah, yeah,
yeah I did feel that, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah with me also like they're like, oh, yeah, I'm
a who do you see? What do you see behind me?
I'm like, doesn't work that way, you know, going it's
like yeah, no, we're eating so yeah, yeah, I get
what to mean. I get it to mean. Do you
have like an associate what in your work or is
(16:19):
it just you?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, for my podcast, it's me and my two best.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Friends, okay, and there's another job.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Not right now?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, okay, there's.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Something about I imagine it's the podcast. There's something about
look at look at the red flags something like that.
Hold on, I'll tell you more.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Kay. I think it's kind of like I don't know
if it's the content or what it is, but I
feel like they're in charge more than you are. Does
(17:07):
this make sense?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Not right now? Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Was it happening? Because there's something it's like use your voice,
you know, he's trying to say, use your voice. There's
nothing wrong with how the dynamic is. It's not talking
shit about them or anything. It's not about that. It's
about like, I feel like you have ideas. I feel that,
(17:36):
but I feel you go more with the flow than
actually you know, then actually say no, then maybe this
or maybe you're scared to say. Does this make sense? Right?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It does a little week before starting the podcast, we
used to have a company. We used to work in
social media and marketing and all of that, and we
had a very specific hierarchy. Okay, where that would make
sense in the podcast, I would say we're definitely completely equal,
Like that's changed, right, But maybe I'm dragging along a
little bit from that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Maybe that Yeah, like you took on your role and
it's you know, it's transpiring into your relationship with them
or you know, something like that. It's like, say say
what you want to say, do what you want to do,
speak up, and even not even like for the good
(18:26):
of the podcast, more about for your good, you know,
because I feel like every time you do it, it'll
make you feel more empowered and more Okay, so that
was what he wanted to say. So maybe if it
makes sense now, maybe it'll make sense later even more, Okay,
but always keep it in mind because to him, you're
(18:49):
very bright and you've got like good ideas, You've got
like all these things, and I feel like you're not,
you know, exploiting that like you should. Okay, is there
a dog coming soon? Something about the.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Dog not coming soon? We had a dog?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
He died?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
We also she died?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, how long ago?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Twenty nineteen?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, okay, okay, okay. What was her name?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Honey?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Honey?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Okay, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Gonna sound very weird. Let me try to organize it
in my head. Sure, honey, honey in a way? Uh died? When? What?
What change like happened after honey? Did something? Like?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Did you move to do something important that happened after honey?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Do you remember? Yeah? I mean I actually moved like
a couple of weeks later, but like from one apartment
to another. It was like a huge might not have
been a huge thing.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Right right, right, But that's it. That's the only thing
that you remember.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I think, So yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, Now it's just this, there's this connection that I
see which makes me smile. I don't know if you
want kids or not. Totally up to you. I say no, uh,
but it's more about your dad is telling you about
(20:24):
like drastic changes that need to happen in your like
your specific life or else it doesn't go anywhere, okay.
And then he not that it has to do with
honey or anything, but he's like, the move what you
(20:50):
just did that you moved? You moved right, Yeah, that
has to be accompanied by movement of work, movement of emotions, movement,
you know something in your life that has to do
with a lot of movement. Like you cannot stay still
(21:11):
because if you do, you'll get comfortable. And when you
get comfortable, you get depressed. And when you know, it's
just like a little chain. And I think you're forgetting
what you're able to do or what you're capable of
because oh things are going good, No, they can go great.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right yeah, And so you have to always keep that
in mind for your life. For your boyfriend, I feel
it's not the same thing. You know, this is for
you only or your partner.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, And he smiles because he's like, you'll see, like
if you if you saw yourself how I see you,
it would be so different. I feel like you're a
person that can wear many hats at the same time.
Does this make sense? Yeah, and you don't do it,
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and you're not doing it right now right, And it's
all about you wanting to because it's not about somebody
hiring you. It's about you doing your thing, you know.
So that's what that's what he wants for you most
of all. It's it's something that that needs to happen
or else is mom still alive? Mommy?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
What's her name? Just saying like when you decide this
is part when you decide to make that actual move.
It's going to be a big move. He's like, Okay,
then accompany that with a baby, you know, Like every
every time you move something around, you have to compliment
(22:58):
it with another move that's parallel. Like if you you know,
you break up with your boyfriend, okay, so cut your
hair or you know, just things that you know go
along with the same thing. So something about your son
that might be what you need to do to make
that like to make your life shake before you make
(23:22):
it boring or before you make it wow. Okay, now
tell me why you think that all this is happening.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
What do you mean all this?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, it's because you said I have an I have
an idea.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Why oh we keep being running into trouble? Uh, do
not tell me your light went out? No, you're kidding me?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Wait, okay, way so no, yeah, a perfect killo.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, I see that happened and we lose arrest? That okay?
Why does all this keep happening to us?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
My dad is pranking us? This is who he was.
This is either my dad or my uncle or both together.
He's making fun of us, struggling like he's laughing so
hard right now, and I think it has to be that.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Wow, yeah, that could be, because it's just it's not
funny anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Daniel, please stop it. Please, you're scarying me. He was
very like funny, he was very okay, okay, okay, okay.
I'm curious if that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe he's making fun of you, like, oh,
you went to a medium, like you know what I mean.
So he's doing everything because they don't, they don't, they
don't do these things. They're nice people. No. I think
you could be right.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think you could be very right. You could be right.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Let me let me see if he's still here.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I love a little bit of my concentration. The thing
is that with technology they do have, they can manipulate
very few things. Technology is one of them. So they
can turn off a TV. They can, Yeah, but like
at this level, I didn't know they can do.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
My dad was an electrical engineer, bary into technology. Mm hmmm,
I know that's why I remembered.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, wow, what of Brankston. Oh yeah, something about it.
And I think this is for your mom to maybe
collaborate corroborate he's talking about he was very up and
down with the jobs or with his Did he have
a lot of jobs like in and out?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean he had changes in his career for sure,
Like he went from like working on an office with
other people. He was an independent engineer for a while.
Even before that, when I was born, he had like
a store, like it was a different thing all around
the electrical world, like the lighting and electricity. But yeah,
there were some changes for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, this is for your mom. He's like. The reason
I asked too, is he had a lot of jobs
because he's kind of like asking for forgiveness because I
feel like he made your mom's life very like up
and down, up and down, like this job and then
no money, and then money and then no money, you know,
(27:14):
something like that, because he wants to kind of like
thank her for that, you know, like for putting up
with that. Whatever time it was. He's like, I was
a little crazy, you know. I was like a little
genius kind of thing, and he was a little crazy.
And he would get really like ridiculous ideas and then
(27:36):
like some would stick, some wouldn't, but she was always
like supporting him. Yeah, so that's for your mom. Maybe
it was like earlier than maybe it was when you
were born or before. But yeah, he's so thankful.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I definitely would say that was not under big time,
but could for sure be before.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, ask her, ask her and let me know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because that's Vivian is a mom. Right, Yeah, this is
from your grandpa, I believe, for your mom.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And something about stop dabbling into what's not your business.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh that but.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Better no, no, okay, something about let it be, let
it be, stop trying to make it work or stop
trying to make people think like you think somewhere around
those lines. And but he says it in a tone
(28:48):
like yeah, yeah, let it go, let it go. It's
like it's time to let it go. I don't know
what he's talking about. Your mom for sure will know.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I will don't know, Okay, Okay, it's under the link
to this call.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So funny, and your grandfather Enrique just wants to say
something about don't worry, I was already dead, or don't
worry I something about something about you thinking something about
his death that wasn't accurate and that he was actually okay,
(29:31):
or like he died Okay, does that make sense to you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Not?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
He just wants to soothe, like it's fine, like saying
it's fine, I was already dead.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's so weird because his death to me always felt
like a life interrupted mm hmm, because because he passed
COVID COVID complications. Otherwise he was completely fine, right, so
it was like he like we could have had more years,
like he was definitely wasn't on the other side, like
he was very full of life.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, like if it wasn't for COVID, he was fine.
Maybe yeah, maybe I'm thinking along the lines of he
had already died and he was fine, and they didn't
tell you on time or they didn't this is like
technical you know, like okay, something about it wasn't a
(30:31):
bad death, like it wasn't like a like you know,
it was very even if you it doesn't seem like it,
or if you if you think it didn't seem like it.
He was fine. He like he said, I was already dead.
I was already gone, kind of like making me feel
(30:51):
like he didn't feel like you thought he felt.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Okay, because the last couple of weeks were pretty bad
for him. Okay, he had like one good day before
he died, like a really good day where I thought
I was like, oh, he's fully recovered, he's great, and
then he passed in his sleep.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah oh in his sleep. Okay, okay, okay, yeah, usually
hey have the good day and then yeah yeah yeah yeah,
oh I'm so happy he passed into sleep. So maybe
it's that he didn't suffer, but you got to be
with him, like there were people with him, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
My yeah, my mom was there, my aunt was there.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Was he sedated?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Could have been.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I think it's that. I think it's don't worry about
you know, the agony. You know, I feel like he
was already disconnected by God, you know, like, ok, no feelings,
no hurt, no agony, it was just like I was
already gone. He was fine, you know, I feel it
(32:04):
something like that. And the reason I'm telling you this
because for some reason, this gives a lot of peace
to your maybe to your mom, to you, you know,
to your family. He's like, whatever, is that already gone?
Don't worry about okay, something like that. I think that
(32:25):
makes sense if you tell me that he was going
through that. Very sweet man, very sweet man, the sweetest,
sweet sweet sweet. You have to know how to do
many things. That's crazy. Somebody already told you this. He's like,
you have to know many things, how to do many things.
Go take that course, go study that book. He's like,
(32:49):
you're somebody that knows so much about so many things
that he wants you to keep going with that, keep
it rolling, keep it rolling, whatever you have to. You know,
you have to learn about video games. Learn about video games.
But you know, be that person. Oh yeah, sorry, be
that person that knows about everything, because that's what's going
(33:10):
to make you grow kind of like like an enterprise
kind of thing, you know, something like that. So he's
very insisting that you study whatever you have to compliment
what you already know, make yourself like a three sixty
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That sounds like him. He would always tell us that
when we were little. Oh really, yeah, he was you know,
from a generation of like Machimo and stuff like that,
like women were in the house and to his granddaughters,
he was always like, no, learn get a degree, like
even if you decide not to use it, because like
I don't know, you want to live with a traditional
woman life, like still make sure you're your own person,
(33:52):
know how to do your things.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Oh my god, wow that's crazy. Okay, good, that's awesome
that he had mentality, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and he was always like reading books
and learning about things.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So that makes sense then yeah that see he made
his appearance at the end. Yeah, do you have question
before we end the session?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I mean a million, but.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Okay, maybe just one.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's okay. I just this is such an interesting experience.
I love that. I love being like watching us try
to connect because we ran into so many things.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
To the middle Florida Mercy, Yes, thank you, Yes, I
want to thank you because you're so patient, you are
so nice about it. Thank you for that, thank you
for being with us thinking so what.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Thank you so much for Bye. T
I love that. I love being like watching us try
to connect because we ran into so many things through
the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Lorda Mercy, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy. I'MSA
this time around. Oh my god, I don't know how
(00:30):
to explain this. We had our guest Freddy that Sturnbeck,
which she's an awesome podcaster, and okay, this has never
happened before. Now that I am doing this podcast, really
weird things happen which never happened to me in other readings.
This time around me. The session was canceled two times.
(00:53):
This was our third and tent and then suddenly we
were talking about her dad and all the lights went
out in the studio, like complete blackout. We had no
idea why, uh than goodness, we have a studio in
Los Angeles which backs everything up and which you will
(01:14):
you will, you will hear uh. And it was crazy
And that was because he was she was describing her
dad and she said, it's definitely my dad because he
was such a prankster. He loved to do that to
all of us and anything. And he was an electric engineer,
so that made a lot of sense. And weird, happy,
(01:35):
weird things happened during the whole the whole session. It
was incredible. I really hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's crazy. Welcome to Gohol's therapy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, mister Ygando ste no symbols mutu and subida pero
ma save it too much? Lock locky, simple ja. Do
(02:44):
you know why it's a plural thing.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's weird that it's a plural thing because so of
the people that I'm thinking that could Ben's just him.
It might have just been one person in any case,
so it's either my dad or like all these other
people that have passed that. Like, I don't know, I
don't know why a plural would be a thing. I
think it would have to look into it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, okay, but there is some this feeling, this feeling
of of you know, like I went, I was too
much on top of you, you know, I was too
much like trying to run your life or something or
kind of wanting you to do what he or she wanted.
(03:27):
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So here's the thing, not with my dad at all
because of two things. Like he passed when I was
kind of young. I was a teenager, I was almost fifteen,
so like, of course he was very involved in my life,
like I had little to know independence as a teenager.
But at the same time he was very into giving
me like this basic like be whoever I wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Of course, yeah, I don't think that is then that's
your thought.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
On the other hand, if I had to guess, and
this is not a negative at all, but my grandfather
was very involved in my life in a good way,
Like he was always very interested, like what are you doing?
What are you up to? So like maybe to that route.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I I think, whatever it is, it it is nothing bad.
But he feels like like like he sees it now
from a different perspective, you know, as when he was alive.
But there's something about saying I'm sorry because I feel
(04:24):
like it was kind of like an invasion of privacy
sometimes and you feel yeah, and kind of most of
all that you felt it that way, you know, or
something like that, because and he feels like he was
like that information Enrique and Americans information.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But everyone called them hans Han Okay, I'm not said
on that it doesn't have to be Hans.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, it's very eloquent.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, I'm not I'm not said on the fact that
this was him, though.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Let me let me, let me give you more info
and then maybe we can narrow it down. Okay. One
energy that is here is very like like very accelerated energy.
I told you, And there's something that I told you,
So I don't know what it is. Hold on, I
(05:36):
don't know if it's here or is she? But it's
a very like you know, and somehow like I don't
know if he or she expected this from everybody or
if she was like the only one that was like
I'm saying she's is it is she?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's like if the person that's ringing a bell is
he is a he?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Okay, And and he's like like too much, you know,
like calm down, you know, like the energy was very
it's very, very high. And he's like validating in some
weird way that he was always right. Okay, And he's
(06:17):
kind of making fun of the fact that now he
knows that a lot of people kind of ran the
other direction when they would see him.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Come okay, this this could be.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Okay, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Uncle?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, obviously he didn't know that when he was alive.
But he's like, people will would run away from me,
like literally because I was too much.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And then.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And he's like, but I was always right anyway, like
very self centered kind of energy. But he's very funny.
He's very very funny. Was he gay? Yes, Okay, then
that's him. He's like, I don't care. He's like, I
(07:08):
don't care. Tell them I'm gay. That's me. I don't care.
Oh god, Okay, so that's ricky. You see, I don't
control who comes in and who comes out.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No, I know I had a feeling that he could.
He could definitely visit.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Okay, perfect, Okay, let me see what he has to say.
He's telling you this is like personal, like in your
life right now. He's saying, you know what, you're not
exploring enough things something about yeah that rings a bell?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And he and being the the way that he is
obviously to him, it's double you know. So he's like,
explore kind of don't get comfortable.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay. And also he's showing me kind of I feel
like you're very isolated or you don't go out much
or something around those lines, because I well, I no,
go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, I recently moved. I was around all my friends,
and I moved to a new place just with my partner,
and so we are here together. But it's not like
we've made a ton of like a huge group of
friends just yet, like we just moved.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, Okay, that makes sense, Okay, thank you, thank you
for validating that. He's like, get out, girl, like you know,
do what you have to do because for him, like
he feels like you are not the type of person
to be isolated, you know, or to immerse yourself maybe
(08:49):
in work or in your partner. He's like, you need
to do so much more still and if you stop
or if you slow down, everything else will slow down
with you. And we don't want that. Okay, all right, okay,
let me see, and your your grandfather is Enrique or
(09:12):
hands haunts Daniel, and then we have one.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Other is my other grandfather.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And this is daddy's side, right, yes, squattro, And they're
showing me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's kind of like a lot of throwing up a
lot of just like very uh sick. Does this ring
a bell? Or your grandfather's or your dad, because I
feel you were present for this.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I was really only present for my dad, Okay, I
never I don't think I remember seeing a lot of
that specifically, but yeah, he was sick for some time,
and I was definitely there for like the last few
weeks that were pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That were pretty bad, okay, because I feel like, yeah,
this is like a long like kind of a long thing,
like a very it kind of like extended. And I
don't know, he's showing me his hair for some reason.
And I don't know if he lost his hair because
of his sickness. No he did, okay, or your grandparents,
(10:42):
your granddad maybe you know. But yeah, they're showing me
a lot of like throwing up, like beside the bed,
like not even getting up because it was too like
they were too weak to actually get up. Who sounds
like that your dad?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It might have been my dad.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, we'll see, well maybe yeah, maybe, yeah, okay. And
he's he's laughing. He's like watching them watching me was
so annoying. Okay. Yeah, so like like eyes on him
all the time. He's like, you know, I don't know,
maybe the last weeks, but like before it was like
(11:24):
I wasn't that bad, you know or whatever. And he's like, so,
I don't know if he was like in a bad
mood for the last time or or something, but yeah,
he was like, it's because you were just constantly watching me.
It's like, leave me alone. I wanted to be left alone.
But he wants to make this clear because he doesn't
want you to think that he was mad at you guys,
(11:47):
or that he was you know, it's not it was it.
He was just he really wanted to let be left alone.
He's like, I wanted to fart or something, you know,
like but you know, but you guys wouldn't let me.
Uh And and then he goes like, but anyway, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Whatever it was, it was for a good reason.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, that sounds like that sounds a good dad.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, I feel would it be accurate if I tell
you that your dad that you felt that your dad
wasn't supportive enough of what you wanted to do?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
He was super supportive.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Opposite.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Okay, does it ring a bell something about something about
you being I don't want to say rude because rude
is not the word, but just like very opinionated or
I don't know it very direct that he did not
like that. You know, maybe he did. He supported you,
(12:53):
but he didn't support the way you say it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Or I think, yeah, he was very against like sounding Maria,
you know, like he was very like respect, oh, respect
your elders, like you can have all the opinions you want,
but like, yeah, make sure that you're saying them in
the right way. Yeah that does sound like.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, okay, and not saying that you were disrespectful. It's
just like the kind of like a generation thing, you know,
like I was speaking your mind, speaking your mind, and
he would he goes like this because like grabbing his forehead,
like saying, oh, like you know, he had trouble with
you because you were so out there.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You know. Yeah, that's accurate for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But now he's like, but I'm proud of her. He's
like love, I love who she is. I love who
she is and who she's turned out to be. I
think that if I would have in a way been
alive all this time, maybe things wouldn't have worked out
well for you. Not well, but so the same way
(13:58):
that they've worked out, because you feel more free and
you you you're kind of you kind of grew into
your own, you know, and he's so proud. Yeah, he's
very proud of you. I think this is kind of
like work wise in a little bit personal. He's like,
(14:23):
don't do anybody any favors. Stop it, you know, or
like or maybe this is for the future, but he's like, no, no, no, no,
everybody counts. Everybody's worth it. Like he knows you're very nice,
but he also knows that you've got you know, you've
(14:43):
got character, and and he's like, I need you to
I feel like you're not surrounded, but you have men
probably some people that want to take advantage of you
or may want to Okay, okay, And also like don't
(15:10):
ask for any favors and don't give out, which is weird,
you know, because we're always supposed to learn that we're
that we can do favors. But this is more about
like work and about you advancing and about you, you know,
getting what you deserve more than anything else. Does this
make sense?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, yeah, it does make sense, especially I worked in
communications for a really long time, like social media and
stuff in a world where like social media I think
is still taking as like can you run this Instagram account?
For me, like it's nothing and totally don't really get
paid enough, and like, yeah, I definitely learned a lot
of those years that it's not taken as like real
(15:51):
hard work totally as much, maybe not a little bit more. Yeah, yeah,
yeah I did feel that, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah with me also like they're like, oh, yeah, I'm
a who do you see? What do you see behind me?
I'm like, doesn't work that way, you know, going it's
like yeah, no, we're eating so yeah, yeah, I get
what to mean. I get it to mean. Do you
have like an associate what in your work or is
(16:19):
it just you?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, for my podcast, it's me and my two best.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Friends, okay, and there's another job.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Not right now?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, okay, there's.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Something about I imagine it's the podcast. There's something about
look at look at the red flags something like that.
Hold on, I'll tell you more.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Kay. I think it's kind of like I don't know
if it's the content or what it is, but I
feel like they're in charge more than you are. Does
(17:07):
this make sense?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Not right now? Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Was it happening? Because there's something it's like use your voice,
you know, he's trying to say, use your voice. There's
nothing wrong with how the dynamic is. It's not talking
shit about them or anything. It's not about that. It's
about like, I feel like you have ideas. I feel that,
(17:36):
but I feel you go more with the flow than
actually you know, then actually say no, then maybe this
or maybe you're scared to say. Does this make sense? Right?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It does a little week before starting the podcast, we
used to have a company. We used to work in
social media and marketing and all of that, and we
had a very specific hierarchy. Okay, where that would make
sense in the podcast, I would say we're definitely completely equal,
Like that's changed, right, But maybe I'm dragging along a
little bit from that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Maybe that Yeah, like you took on your role and
it's you know, it's transpiring into your relationship with them
or you know, something like that. It's like, say say
what you want to say, do what you want to do,
speak up, and even not even like for the good
(18:26):
of the podcast, more about for your good, you know,
because I feel like every time you do it, it'll
make you feel more empowered and more Okay, so that
was what he wanted to say. So maybe if it
makes sense now, maybe it'll make sense later even more, Okay,
but always keep it in mind because to him, you're
(18:49):
very bright and you've got like good ideas, You've got
like all these things, and I feel like you're not,
you know, exploiting that like you should. Okay, is there
a dog coming soon? Something about the.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Dog not coming soon? We had a dog?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
He died?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
We also she died?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, how long ago?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Twenty nineteen?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, okay, okay, okay. What was her name?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Honey?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Honey?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Okay, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Gonna sound very weird. Let me try to organize it
in my head. Sure, honey, honey in a way? Uh died? When? What?
What change like happened after honey? Did something? Like?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Did you move to do something important that happened after honey?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Do you remember? Yeah? I mean I actually moved like
a couple of weeks later, but like from one apartment
to another. It was like a huge might not have
been a huge thing.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Right right, right, But that's it. That's the only thing
that you remember.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I think, So yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, Now it's just this, there's this connection that I
see which makes me smile. I don't know if you
want kids or not. Totally up to you. I say no, uh,
but it's more about your dad is telling you about
(20:24):
like drastic changes that need to happen in your like
your specific life or else it doesn't go anywhere, okay.
And then he not that it has to do with
honey or anything, but he's like, the move what you
(20:50):
just did that you moved? You moved right, Yeah, that
has to be accompanied by movement of work, movement of emotions, movement,
you know something in your life that has to do
with a lot of movement. Like you cannot stay still
(21:11):
because if you do, you'll get comfortable. And when you
get comfortable, you get depressed. And when you know, it's
just like a little chain. And I think you're forgetting
what you're able to do or what you're capable of
because oh things are going good, No, they can go great.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right yeah, And so you have to always keep that
in mind for your life. For your boyfriend, I feel
it's not the same thing. You know, this is for
you only or your partner.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, And he smiles because he's like, you'll see, like
if you if you saw yourself how I see you,
it would be so different. I feel like you're a
person that can wear many hats at the same time.
Does this make sense? Yeah, and you don't do it,
(22:09):
and you're not doing it right now right, And it's
all about you wanting to because it's not about somebody
hiring you. It's about you doing your thing, you know.
So that's what that's what he wants for you most
of all. It's it's something that that needs to happen
or else is mom still alive? Mommy?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
What's her name? Just saying like when you decide this
is part when you decide to make that actual move.
It's going to be a big move. He's like, Okay,
then accompany that with a baby, you know, Like every
every time you move something around, you have to compliment
(22:58):
it with another move that's parallel. Like if you you know,
you break up with your boyfriend, okay, so cut your
hair or you know, just things that you know go
along with the same thing. So something about your son
that might be what you need to do to make
that like to make your life shake before you make
(23:22):
it boring or before you make it wow. Okay, now
tell me why you think that all this is happening.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
What do you mean all this?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, it's because you said I have an I have
an idea.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Why oh we keep being running into trouble? Uh, do
not tell me your light went out? No, you're kidding me?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Wait, okay, way so no, yeah, a perfect killo.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, I see that happened and we lose arrest? That okay?
Why does all this keep happening to us?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
My dad is pranking us? This is who he was.
This is either my dad or my uncle or both together.
He's making fun of us, struggling like he's laughing so
hard right now, and I think it has to be that.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Wow, yeah, that could be, because it's just it's not
funny anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Daniel, please stop it. Please, you're scarying me. He was
very like funny, he was very okay, okay, okay, okay.
I'm curious if that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe he's making fun of you, like, oh,
you went to a medium, like you know what I mean.
So he's doing everything because they don't, they don't, they
don't do these things. They're nice people. No. I think
you could be right.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think you could be very right. You could be right.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Let me let me see if he's still here.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I love a little bit of my concentration. The thing
is that with technology they do have, they can manipulate
very few things. Technology is one of them. So they
can turn off a TV. They can, Yeah, but like
at this level, I didn't know they can do.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
My dad was an electrical engineer, bary into technology. Mm hmmm,
I know that's why I remembered.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, wow, what of Brankston. Oh yeah, something about it.
And I think this is for your mom to maybe
collaborate corroborate he's talking about he was very up and
down with the jobs or with his Did he have
a lot of jobs like in and out?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean he had changes in his career for sure,
Like he went from like working on an office with
other people. He was an independent engineer for a while.
Even before that, when I was born, he had like
a store, like it was a different thing all around
the electrical world, like the lighting and electricity. But yeah,
there were some changes for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, this is for your mom. He's like. The reason
I asked too, is he had a lot of jobs
because he's kind of like asking for forgiveness because I
feel like he made your mom's life very like up
and down, up and down, like this job and then
no money, and then money and then no money, you know,
(27:14):
something like that, because he wants to kind of like
thank her for that, you know, like for putting up
with that. Whatever time it was. He's like, I was
a little crazy, you know. I was like a little
genius kind of thing, and he was a little crazy.
And he would get really like ridiculous ideas and then
(27:36):
like some would stick, some wouldn't, but she was always
like supporting him. Yeah, so that's for your mom. Maybe
it was like earlier than maybe it was when you
were born or before. But yeah, he's so thankful.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I definitely would say that was not under big time,
but could for sure be before.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, ask her, ask her and let me know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because that's Vivian is a mom. Right, Yeah, this is
from your grandpa, I believe, for your mom.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And something about stop dabbling into what's not your business.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh that but.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Better no, no, okay, something about let it be, let
it be, stop trying to make it work or stop
trying to make people think like you think somewhere around
those lines. And but he says it in a tone
(28:48):
like yeah, yeah, let it go, let it go. It's
like it's time to let it go. I don't know
what he's talking about. Your mom for sure will know.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I will don't know, Okay, Okay, it's under the link
to this call.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So funny, and your grandfather Enrique just wants to say
something about don't worry, I was already dead, or don't
worry I something about something about you thinking something about
his death that wasn't accurate and that he was actually okay,
(29:31):
or like he died Okay, does that make sense to you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Not?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
He just wants to soothe, like it's fine, like saying
it's fine, I was already dead.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's so weird because his death to me always felt
like a life interrupted mm hmm, because because he passed
COVID COVID complications. Otherwise he was completely fine, right, so
it was like he like we could have had more years,
like he was definitely wasn't on the other side, like
he was very full of life.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, like if it wasn't for COVID, he was fine.
Maybe yeah, maybe I'm thinking along the lines of he
had already died and he was fine, and they didn't
tell you on time or they didn't this is like
technical you know, like okay, something about it wasn't a
(30:31):
bad death, like it wasn't like a like you know,
it was very even if you it doesn't seem like it,
or if you if you think it didn't seem like it.
He was fine. He like he said, I was already dead.
I was already gone, kind of like making me feel
(30:51):
like he didn't feel like you thought he felt.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Okay, because the last couple of weeks were pretty bad
for him. Okay, he had like one good day before
he died, like a really good day where I thought
I was like, oh, he's fully recovered, he's great, and
then he passed in his sleep.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah oh in his sleep. Okay, okay, okay, yeah, usually
hey have the good day and then yeah yeah yeah yeah,
oh I'm so happy he passed into sleep. So maybe
it's that he didn't suffer, but you got to be
with him, like there were people with him, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
My yeah, my mom was there, my aunt was there.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Was he sedated?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Could have been.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I think it's that. I think it's don't worry about
you know, the agony. You know, I feel like he
was already disconnected by God, you know, like, ok, no feelings,
no hurt, no agony, it was just like I was
already gone. He was fine, you know, I feel it
(32:04):
something like that. And the reason I'm telling you this
because for some reason, this gives a lot of peace
to your maybe to your mom, to you, you know,
to your family. He's like, whatever, is that already gone?
Don't worry about okay, something like that. I think that
(32:25):
makes sense if you tell me that he was going
through that. Very sweet man, very sweet man, the sweetest,
sweet sweet sweet. You have to know how to do
many things. That's crazy. Somebody already told you this. He's like,
you have to know many things, how to do many things.
Go take that course, go study that book. He's like,
(32:49):
you're somebody that knows so much about so many things
that he wants you to keep going with that, keep
it rolling, keep it rolling, whatever you have to. You know,
you have to learn about video games. Learn about video games.
But you know, be that person. Oh yeah, sorry, be
that person that knows about everything, because that's what's going
(33:10):
to make you grow kind of like like an enterprise
kind of thing, you know, something like that. So he's
very insisting that you study whatever you have to compliment
what you already know, make yourself like a three sixty
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That sounds like him. He would always tell us that
when we were little. Oh really, yeah, he was you know,
from a generation of like Machimo and stuff like that,
like women were in the house and to his granddaughters,
he was always like, no, learn get a degree, like
even if you decide not to use it, because like
I don't know, you want to live with a traditional
woman life, like still make sure you're your own person,
(33:52):
know how to do your things.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Oh my god, wow that's crazy. Okay, good, that's awesome
that he had mentality, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and he was always like reading books
and learning about things.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So that makes sense then yeah that see he made
his appearance at the end. Yeah, do you have question
before we end the session?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I mean a million, but.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Okay, maybe just one.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's okay. I just this is such an interesting experience.
I love that. I love being like watching us try
to connect because we ran into so many things.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
To the middle Florida Mercy, Yes, thank you, Yes, I
want to thank you because you're so patient, you are
so nice about it. Thank you for that, thank you
for being with us thinking so what.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Thank you so much for Bye. T
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