Ghost Therapy With Kimberly Menzies.

90 Day Fiancé star.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
She's singing a song it's like sunshine or like.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
You make me happy whence guys are great. Was that
a song that you had together? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, yeah, that was our song. She used to sing
it to me all the time.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Welcome to ghost Therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi, guys, Welcome to ghost Therapy. Thank
you so much for being here. One more episode, you guys.
We have we have to roll out the red carpet

(00:41):
here because we have Miss Kim Mindsy's and from ninety
Day Fiance, which I love. Oh my god, I love
that show. Yes, yes, I'm so happy to have you here.
I'm so like, I admire how you put yourself out there,
how you were so real, You're so like, you're so you,
and I'm so happy to have you here. I'm so

(01:17):
happy to have you here. So you guys, Kim, you know,
has gone through a really rough time because in three
years she's lost sister, father, mother, brother, and so we're
gonna do a little party here, so see who comes
down and see who wants to talk, and it's gonna

(01:38):
be fun. It's gonna be We're gonna have a lot
of fun. You'll see. Let's let's do this, Okay. The
first message I receive is that it's someone that wants
you to know. This is the way they say it.
The war wasn't against all of you. It was against
I guess myself, or something like that. I think it's

(02:04):
something about perception that somebody one of these will find
out which one it is right now. I guess like
it was perceived as they had it against you, you know,
or it was or maybe all of them. But it
was like saying it was a war with myself. I
was very depressed. I was very I was very sad,

(02:27):
and it always came off as if I hated everybody,
but when I really didn't. It wasn't about anybody. It
was about me. Does this make sense about any of them?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think that was my sister.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
That's sister, okay, Teresa.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't want to put all their business out there.
But I never thought she was happy with her life.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
But she wasn't happy within herself because she had a
lot of wars going on, you know, with my dad,
with my just family issue, you know, personal family issues,
and I think that's makes a lot of sense to me.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Actually, oh okay, and I want you to receive this
message with with and I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry
because she kind of makes it seem like when she
was on earth she didn't understand that, you know, and
now that she's up there, she's like, oh my gosh,
you know, I was behaving this this way, this way,

(03:22):
this way, and it was all about me, me, me
having my issues. So if you take that with and
I'm sorry, that would be great.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Crazy because we look just to like too, we look
just to like me and my sister and my mother
like and oh my god, it's it's so crazy. And
my niece is just like my carbon copy. Everybody every
on my side very strong.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Geth That is so cute. I feel when when you
were saying that, somebody one of them came in and
she's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But I was
the love of her life. I was, you know, like, whatever,
is that your mom? Okay, okay, that.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Is my mother all day. She's like whatever.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Exactly exactly, like oh yeah, whatever, twins like making fun
of you. Sally wants you to know how happy she is,
how in peace she is, and that she wants you
to know that, because I feel that you always and

(04:29):
this is about Sally, not about the rest of them
that much. But that's okay. I feel like you always
think that she's not at peace, or that she's not well,
or that she's not you know, and it's like no, no, no, no, no,
the other way, completely the other way. I'm happy because
when they get up there, Jesus or God or whoever

(04:51):
you believe in I respect, they get taken away the
ability to be mad, to you know, to miss somebody.
They don't even remember what it is. It's all about positive.
It's only positive vibes, you know. So it's not that
she doesn't miss that she doesn't miss you, it's just

(05:12):
that you know, she's really happy, right. And I feel like,
I mean, I know that moms aren't supposed to die
before the kids, right, but I feel like Sally died
like really it kind of felt like it was out
of nowhere or it wasn't her turn kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, I feel like she was in a rehab facility
and I had COVID in her home in like one
or two days, you know, afterwards and then she passed away.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
She had she had a.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Heart attack, so she and I really believe I hate
to say this, but I really believe that like she
kind of willed it because she never wanted me to
take care of her, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
She never wanted to come home and and everything.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
And I have her phone, you know, So the messages
we have were because I was really sick.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I had COVID really bad, but I was going to
get a negative test.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I was better, and I was like, I can't you know,
She's like, I can't wait to come home and be
with my cats and and everything. And then I got
a call like two hours later and she had died,
you know.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So that's what I feel. I just feel.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I just felt like she wanted to come home, but
she didn't want to die in the house, because you.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Know, it would have I would have it would have
it would have killed It would have killed me, absolutely killed,
and I to find her.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
She never wanted me to be the one to find
her because it would it would have I would never
be the same.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, you are like the very few people that
I always have to explain that to people. I always
have to say whoever found her did or whatever was
the one that was going to be able to you know,
take it.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, I couldn't take it going her.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I went to go see her and they wouldn't let
me in because you know, I didn't have a negative
COVID sideway. They by her through a window and it
was like the worst experience in my life. I'll never
forget that as long as I live, and I I
and then it was just it felt so surreal. I'm like,
this is not my mom because I always looked at
her like I used to get upset with her because
she could. I knew she was getting older and she

(07:13):
was failing. But in my head I saw it like
my age right now, God like go to the going
to do things.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I couldn't accept it, right. So then when she it's
like I had to accept it, like you know.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
She's gone and everything.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
And it was like I always felt so guilty because
I wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
When she died, right and I felt so much guilt.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
But I know in my head she wouldn't have wanted
me there. She wouldn't wanted me to see her.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, there was so God God didn't want you to
carry that burden on, you know, because not everybody. And
I'm so glad you accept it, Like I'm so glad
that you know, and you're at peace with that because
a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Get mad like I did. I wanted, like did she did?
She knows I loved her, right, I mean, like she
knows what she meant to me.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
And you know, we didn't always get along the world
and we were exactly alike, same damn.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Person and we don't know it, but.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It was especially you become the parent, and it was
hard to be her parents sometimes, you know, But I
did for her.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I did.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I love, Like everything I've done for her, you know,
is because I love I.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh, she was my I can't even tell you. She
was everything to me everything.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
She's the only person that could like hug me or
support me, you know, like she just unconditional love for all.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Of us, for my sister, but unconditional love for all
of us. And it's just like.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
She's she taught me everything. She's the reason I'm the
woman I am today, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
And that sounds so beautiful. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I
that what you're telling me. I can absolutely feel it
from your side as of hers you know, and she's
she's singing a song it's like sunshine or like yes,

(08:57):
I'm sorry, you are my son, my only sunshine. You
make me happy whence guys are great. Was that a
song that you got together? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yes, I could ring and then I have Yeah, that
was our song. She used to sing it to me
all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh my god, she's singing it to you right now,
just with a really really big smile, just so you
know that that's her. You know that it that it's her.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Nobody would know that, like nobody, nobody else this earth
would know that.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Oh oh wow, I'm glad that you got this confirmation
because everything I've told you so far, now you can
like look at it and like be oh, she's happy,
you know, like the true confirmation. You know, she's just Oh,
and they're all taking care of you. Believe me, They're

(09:49):
all in there. They're all in there all the time.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Nobody, nobody would know that song. Nobody would know that.
I've never even spoken.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It was an art thing.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
And I have this little charm and blue box as
a Sunshine, and it's like a kid's join. It says
you are my sunshine. So nobody, nobody would in this
world would know that.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Oh my gosh, I'm so glad I could give this
to you. I'm so glad it's not me, it's her.
I'm not taking the credit, but I'm saying I'm glad
I was part of this. I'm very happy because I
know that with that, you felt her close. It's very
close to you. She's very very close, as is Terrisa.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Let's tell her not to help me, tell her, tell
her to stop making my TV go off.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I know, yeah, they do that a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yet I have a cranic the other night and I
could not get it. And it was the same day.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I saw the ORB the same day, and I was like, okay,
you know, like, I'm glad you're here, but not today.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I like, I scare really easily.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay, okay, like not today, Jesus, you better not.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I swear.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
No.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
They're all saying, you know, we don't mess with her,
We don't mess with her. We promise, we promise, but
you aren't. But you are very receptive because I think
let me hold on, because I think your dad is here,
but let me check really quick.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Wow, that's crazy. You said that about my mom, so crazy.
Nobody would know that, nobody would know that that was
like our song. The fact that you just said that, I.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Mean, I'm so happy, So glad she's happy. That's all
I ever wanted was for her to be at piece,
you know.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Right exactly. Maybe it was a signal for you to
know that, Okay, she's she's okay. You know, if she's singing,
she's okay. You know for sure, I think it's daddy.
I don't think it's brother. There's something about daddy or
maybe your brother. I don't think it's her brother. I

(11:49):
think it's her dad. He's like I need to say
I'm sorry to her because and correct me if I'm wrong,
No problem, Like he would always pinpoint everything about you
kind of or like yeah and yeah it would.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well he was wasn't He wasn't love your dad, but
he wasn't the bestially.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
He knows, he knows.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
But he I made my peace with him a long
time ago. You know.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I just feel like when I found out he was sick,
my mom and I drove to he was living in Arizona,
and my mom and I there and I had this
list of stuff I was going to say, like, you know,
just to me and I saw.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Him and I just couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I was like, he's my dad, you know, false and
all and everything. Yeah, a little you know about the
whole interrational dating and all that. So he was a
little but they grew up in a different time and
I just made my that he was very proud of
me out of Jamal.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
So I feel like my dad was an entertainer, you know,
he was. He always said this was on him and
he was. Nothing made him prouder than to knowing I
was going to be on the TV show.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Unfortunately, of course he didn't, you know, he didn't make
it to see.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
But he died actually when I was filming.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
So okay, but I just feel like I've read my
piece with all of that with him, and I want
him to know that, like there's no I was so
he was. I was devastated when he passed it, and
I felt it was different for me because I grew
up it was my mother.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know, and it wasn't him beside you, right.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
So please anything that he thinks, I don't, I'm fine, Okay, Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Know, maybe it was just like this one little thing
he had to say sorry for you know, it's like
you know, like a pinpointing like yeah, and he's like,
I'm so sorry for that. Because the thing is that
like uh he now he barely noticed it, you know,
when he was up there, you know, and he didn't
know he would do that, you know, like like a

(13:54):
mom like that type of mom are you gonna wear that?
Are you sure you're gonna wear that clothes? Or like,
you know, yeah, that's the nature of it. But you
know it sometimes it hurts. But he sometimes even if
we forgive, even if it's hard to forgive somebody that
doesn't say I'm sorry, you know, and and the fact

(14:17):
that you've made peace with it is great. And he
just wanted to. She just wants He just wants to
say I'm sorry. And I just like, there it is.
And if you want to forgive me, great or if
you want to take your time, it's not about that.
It's like whenever you can and whenever to think about that.
But yeah, I'm so glad you made peace. But he's

(14:39):
just he just had to say I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Because he always that's my dad.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
He's the showstopper, so he always got to come in
and just.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Like passionably late after the third one. Of course, of course,
how do were you when when Donald James Junior died.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
When my brother died, I was hold on one seck.
I was I'm fifty five now, I was young. I
was like twenty nine, twenty nine, thirty maybe like thirty one, thirty.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
One, thirty one. And he was how old.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
He was young? He was forty three, forty two. He
had it, so he was super young.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, super young. Okay, Okay, just so
I don't confuse them, yeah yeah, just because sometimes they
make themselves look like I'm the young one, I'm the
old one, or sometimes yeah, they don't care and they're
all over the place. Just so I can be certain
of everybody. Okay, here we go. Hold on. Your sister says,

(15:39):
you know what, Kim, you couldn't ask for more. You've
You've got it all there. You know. Sometimes I don't
know if you're like right now, doubting yourself or something,
but she's like, you're good, You're good right now. And
you know, I feel like a mental health issue is
getting better. Does that make any sense?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yes, it makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Congratulate congratulations, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know, does she know that I'm like looking out
for her daughter and my you know, my niece and
my nephew. Like I really tried both of them. And
Eric's a little more office. She reminds me of my
son sometimes. But Katie is just she feels things, you know.
And Verry, she misses her mom a lot. She misses
her mama. Trying to you know, be there for her

(16:26):
because she's my niece and I love but it's been
it's been a journey for us too, you know, for
me and Katie too, because.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Like you know, I'm not her mom, I'm I'm her aunt.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Right, but you look like her, which helps.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
CRUs we you know, we're like men. I'm going to
go see her probably in August. So I mean I'm
trying to like keep keep keeping them.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
All together, you're all because all you got is each
other now, and you know.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, you know so and I take very so solo
and I tend to just like isolate myself and then
you know, but I'm really I really do. I Like
I reach out to her, she would just out to me,
and she needs advice me, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So I want my sister to know I have I
got them. They're good.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
So I'm sure she knows that. She's like, I'm sure
she's she's seen it. When you were saying that about
her daughter, she laughs because she goes something like, huh huh, handful,
huh right, told you never believe me.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, there you go, I got it. I got it.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
But she's actually I always tell her whenever she posts
pictures or something, I'm like, your mom would be out
of you, you know. So I think she needs that
clarity too, that you know, like Mom is watching over her.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'm sure she is. Oh, I'm sure she is.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yes, Absolutely, they're all here with us. It's like, let's
say you have like a picture of water and then
every you drop, you have a drop with you, drop
with your sister or a drop with your niece, and
but it's still coming from the same picture. You see. So, Mom, Mom's, sister, everybody,

(18:09):
they're all there. You're with each other, but they're still
with God. But you know, it's something weird. I you know,
I get the explanations, but I sometimes I like that's
too weird. But that's how it goes. Yeah, So she's
everybody's there with you. So I'm getting confirmation. She's like, yeah,
I know, I know that you're that you're there, but

(18:30):
she's really making fun of you. She's like, you see
what it was?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Not on my hair black? And to do no. Every
time I think of that, every time I get my
hair done, I think.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Oh, your hair looks lovely, by the way. And then
she says something about them. She's still she's saying something
about don't let him. She's like very stern. So I'm like,
don't don't don't make him, or don't let him pay

(19:03):
you pay or we got this, don't let him do that.
I don't want him to keep it. Do you know
what she's talking about?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Okay, I don't know about that one. I don't know
about that.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It would it resonate with anybody else, like with mom
or dad or brother, something about here's here's the context.
There's something where she wants this this I don't know,
maybe we're talking to somebody else, but it's something about
not wanting you, not wanting somebody to keep something that

(19:45):
doesn't belong to them, something maybe like a family heirloom
or maybe like a house, or like something about you
keep it because if he goes and buys it, it's
not going to be with us.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Or you have No, I don't know what that is.
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Let me write it down. Let me write it down
so maybe later on it makes sense or maybe like
in a year.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Because that might be something. Yeah, that might be something
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Okay, it's like I kept everything, you know, so like
my great grandmother's rocky chair painting.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I have my grandmother's ring.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh that's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, it's a violet, and I have like I have,
I was the soul beneficiary to all my moms.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Stuff stuff right right, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay, oh and their debt to thanks mom.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
But so now you have to sell everything to cover
the debt.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Thanks mom. But yeah, I don't know. Write that down
for me, because I'd love to.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Just write it down. And sometimes sometimes it's like I'm
talking about the future or something and then it's like, yeah,
that was what it was. Yeah, so something about keeping
it in the family.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, the rings that I got. My
great grandmother's ring too, I don't I don't wear it
too often because it's it's really small. But I it
might be that maybe my nephew, you know, propose or something.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I don't know maybe once.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Maybe wants the house.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
No, you can't get mine mine, no, sir, mine. Well
I sold my mother's house and then I bought this one.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh okay, good, good for you. Good, that's awesome. You
see what happens with what happens with them, is that
like it's not about like this. Some sometimes they don't
want to sell the house because no, it was my
mom's house, you know, something like that. But no, what
they want is for you to be happy. And if that,

(21:55):
if the money from that house makes you gives you
something even bigger.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Well, you know, did a reverse like a thin color
reverse mortgage, like a mortgage on the house. And there
for almost two years after she passed, and then I
just was I was building my credit, I was doing
everything to keep it, but I was so sad there,
Like I was so sad all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
So I kept the good pieces. I still have a
lot of my mother's stuff. I just can't go through
it yet. I haven't in storage box in my back right. Yeah.
I just everything in my house is my Like one
thing was my grandma's china cabinet. My mother's ashes are
here with me, my dad's I just made everything I

(22:40):
made my house. It may not be interior design wise perfect,
but everything in the house makes me happy.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
You turn around, you look at it and it's like.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, like fss and like you know, my grandma,
my great grandmother's rocking chair, my china radio, Okay, like
everything in the house makes me happy.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
And it's a good memory, you know.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
And like I had to do that, and I feel
like I really had to move on from that. And
I know my mom would be happy for me, because
she that's what she wanted for me, was to be happy.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Of course. Yeah, whatever she did in life that could
transcend to you and make you happy, that's all she wants.
That's all she wants. And also about the house, let
me tell you something about the house that she was saying.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was haunted. She haunted me in that damn house.
I know she did.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes, the floorboard, Oh my god, you read my mind.
But she was like something about moving things very slowly, okay,
and something about she's laughing by the way. She's like,
oh my god, I scared her all the time or

(23:55):
something like that.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You know, there's a floorboard in between my room and
her and I would hear it creek sometime be passed
on and I would hear the floorboard creak, and I
would just like, okay, like, don't scare me, don't I'm scary.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I hate to be scared, right right right right right, yeah,
I know it's you. Hi, okay, bye.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Here when I moved actually doing a promo video for something,
and I had my ring light and my phone, you know,
and then I didn't see it and there was no
light in the house except for my ring light and
natural light.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
And I watched the video back and it was.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
This gold orb and it came out of the china
cabinet where her ashes are and it went right like
almost near Jamal's picture, and I was like, oh my god.
And I sent it to Jasmine, my manager, Jasmine and
Dom and I was just like, what is this And
Jazz was like, oh god, you know. So it was
that was the first time I felt her here, I

(24:53):
really here. And every now and then I'll just be
laying and bet or I hear a song like two
or three of her.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Favorite songs the radio to my mom liked, oh.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
My god, well that's it. That's something new.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
But it's like two or three songs in a row
and now just and I'm like, hi, Mom, I'm okay.
You know, I'm okay, I'm okay. I hope you're okay.
And I just I just miss her so much, Like
I don't think like that will ever go away, you know.
And I just miss like going to the casino with
they're just laying in bed with their watching a movie.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know. I just missed that.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I missed that so much, and I miss that, like
just this just the support we gave each other.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
In the last couple of years. You miss that.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I know she's here. I know I have Jamal, I
know I have my family. You know I have friends,
really good friends and stuff. But I just miss her
so much. Like I miss I missed my too, but
my mind. I miss being able to tell these bitches
this too. I miss being able to call them and
just be like do you remember that time Mom did this?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Or do you remember that time.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
The stories the stories right right right right.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And it's like I can't call,
you know, I can't call my mom and be like
do you remember that time Donnie did this?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Or you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
So and I'm sure you kind of get the phone,
like you're going to call in Oh, no, you forget. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
So I was driving by this deli that my stepdad
used to take us to and we could never remember
the name of it, and I was I was driving
to work. I drove by this building every day for
a year and a half, and I looked and I
went to and I went to go call my mom
and I had to pull over because it hit me
so hard, you know. And then in my head, I'm like,
you know, it's like they know you know.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like they they do, like
they know everything.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
It's like sometimes like a lot of people will will
tell me, please tell them this and this. It's like, no,
you don't need me. You don't need me to tell
them anything because they're right there with you. So you
ever want to tell them or maybe like if you
remember a story, call them in heaven. You know, you
like remember when mom did that, and you know, laughing

(27:00):
away or whatever. And then of course that's going to
make you feel better, of course, you know, because you
laugh about it. And yeah, yeah, I totally get it.
But let me tell you something too. Not everybody had
or has a relationship like you and your mom, Okay,
like like you say, lying in bed watching a movie.

(27:22):
Not everybody was blessed with that. I'm not, you know,
and I think that I know you're not. I know
that you are thankful, but just you know, one more
time telling you, you know, be thankful that you really
did have a lot of good, good things with her.

(27:43):
Not everybody has good things with their mother now.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
So I always say that I'm so blessed that, like
I got to move back home, that that circumstance had
me come back home and live and take care of
her and get to Norah as an adult because she
I went in.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
The military feeling I left home at nineteen.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Oh, So I'm so grateful that like she provided this
life for me too, and the memories that I've made
here with her as just I mean now that especially
now that she's gone, you know, like I would say,
her and my son were really close too, and I
was home sometimes for you know, like a couple of
weeks during the summer, and they they really.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Had a bond.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
And I'm so glad that my son had that with
my mom too, and she loved Jamal, you know, And
I just wanted to know, like Jamal is helping me
like he does take care of me. He left his
whole life for me, like his whole life in New York,
and he moved here with me after my sister passed
because I was it's very thin, very thin thread and
then you know, my just everything at one time, you know.

(28:43):
So Jamal's really stepped it up. And Jamal's really been
the like demand.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
For me, not the man, you know, Yeah, that's my
number one, the person, your person.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, like I'm not on a holiday. He makes sure
that I'm always I'm always okay, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
And I of that for him, and you know, we
have our issues too, but I just really feel like
my mom made that happen, you know what I mean too.
And I tell this to people myself that like you
know that that have parents that passed away or sibling
or whatever, and I'm like, there's always there's always like
a good thing that comes out of the death. To me,

(29:21):
there's adapts just how I feel, you know what i mean.
And I'm not saying I mean, I would love to
have my whole family back here, you know, but I
believe a lesson and everything maybe I should work it
like that. There's a lesson everything, like you don't see
it at first, but you see it, like I'm really
trying to live my authentic life and I.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Know it has nothing to do. But I don't know
if it's your sister or your mother. But while you
were saying that, they said, so when are you going
to get the tattoo or something like that, like are
you going to get the tattoo?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
So I got a testo my mom right here.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh yeah, okay, okay, you put it a little closer
so I can see it if you don't mind. And
that's what I mean, mommy. A balloon, Yeah, I saw,
I saw a balloon. I saw to God like I
saw a balloon, but I didn't want to like mix
it because I didn't know what one had to do
with the other.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
That's crazy love on Facebook. She used to be I
was used to be a restaurant manager.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Can you bring me the keyshome?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Like a thousand red balloons? And we actually released red
balloons that are memorial service. So I just what it says, mommy.
I had somebody design it for me. But I want
to get my families like little balloons with their burstones,
like my sister.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Oh, get right, next right here, like right here on
my forearm under mommy, not my names, just a burstone. Okay.
So I wear sometimes with all of them because I
like to feel them around me. I like to remember them.
Of course, pray that I am making them proud. You know.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I just really hope and pray that I doubt. I
doubt myself a lot, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Oh, and especially when you don't have the supports just
to that you used to have. So like who do
I ask? Who do I tell? You know? And also
they told me put the rings on, put them all on,
like stack them up, something about stack them up, okay,
because that's like energy for you. Like and your mom

(31:19):
is saying some days you're gonna wake up and you're
gonna be oh, mom, I miss you. Put my rings on.
And some days when you feel good, don't put them on.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's about like just like about energy. And so if
one day you don't think about me, don't worry. I'm
not offended if one day you don't, you know, it's
like I'm glad. If you didn't think of me, that
means that you're you know, you're slowly moving on. Like
you said, it's never gonna go away the hurt. But

(31:50):
there will definitely come a day where you can when
you can live with it in a happy way, you know,
and accept it and all that. So those rings have
more power than you think.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Okay, okay, okay, can ask a question, yes, like are
they together?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Like are they together? Do they go?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Because I know, like my mom was like a social
butterfly with her friends, and like my grandparents are there,
my great grandma all them? Like I know, my mom's
like the social butterfly out of the group because my
sister was always a little more reserved.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
But are they and my dad's the entertainer. My family
had lots a lot right oceans. But are like days together?
Like do they hang out?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Let me check? Yeah, I get that question a lot.
Let me check because normally not because you were mom
and mom and sister here necessarily means your mom and
sister up there, you know, and some like hang out
and some are like they're all together, but they don't
all hang out. Let me see who hangs out with who?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Wonder if they do they who would?

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
You doing?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Mom and dad? Definitely no? And then it's uh, brother, no, Nope,
nobody hangs out with each other.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I figured that I dig that.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're doing their own thing, but they're happy,
you know, but yeah, some some do like some like
loves of their lives. Like you know, those people that
are together for five six lives, they're they're holding hands
and they're always together. But not all of them.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
You know, does my mom know like how much I
loved her? Does she know that?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Of course you knows, Like like I feel guilt sometimes,
like because I was her caregiver, you know, like I
love I loved her like it was out of everybody's
no offense to my sister or anything, but out of everybody,
that was the hardest loss for me, you know, was
my mom. And I feel like my sister too because
it was it was like such a shock, you know,
everything was such a shock. And I just feel like

(33:55):
I got my strengths from my mom. I know, I've
gotten my strengths from my mom. My mom has you know,
been a lot too, and my grandparents too, you know,
like my great grandma, my great grandma was the one
that gave me the respect factor that I have in
my life for like school and you know, making sure
they're care of and I want to open my platform
for stuff like that. You know, Okay, I like I

(34:16):
credit the women in my family. Was so much like
the women and all the women in my family, my
sister mom, and you know, I credit I credit all
the women in my family, like I am the last
me and my knee, so the last of you know,
the women in our family and.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
The strong woman, the strong one, right and now you're
hat and now you're using it, you know now with
all of this, I'm sure that that's the strength that
you know comes with the with the diritory. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and good for you, good for you. Your mom is
like she turns around like really, like you really think

(34:56):
I don't know how much you love me? Like come on,
you know? And of course, and see the thing is
that since it's an everyday thing with them being with you,
they know everything about you, you know, everything you're thinking,
like not in the bedroom. Maybe they stay outside.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
But stay outside, mom, I'm gonna start dating suit and
stay outside. But yeah, like I know, like I really
felt her, like once I got back from once I
ended my relationship with my ex, I really felt her
that too, Like she was.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Like you go, Kimmy, because I was so.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
I was coming, and she was so like, you go,
like I just felt so stripped of all my words.
And then I'm getting it back, you know, I'm getting
it back. I have a few little nuts and bolts
I have to work on, but I will back, you
know what I'm saying. And I really know I felt
her when I got back, like you fucking go like

(35:59):
you don't let a man talk to you like that.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
You know, I really love that.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
So you found you found a lot of sense of
worth with all this that's happened to you. That's great.
Who would who would bother you? Or who would have
an opinion about your hair?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
All of them?

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Now I'm just saying, usually my sister because I used
to die at jet black, so I don't know. Oh
yeah yeah, so usually my sister or my mom my
mom would be like you should cut it, you should
kind of, you should do layers.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Blah blah. So I'm binally doing that now, slowly but surely.
But yeah, I did choose the hair color, so.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
That is so crazy. I love this hair color, like, yeah,
more much more than jet black. And then they're saying
they're talking the layers, like yeah, they're talking shit. They're
like like they're talking about, yeah, layers in your hair,
but they're also talking about like put in some extensions

(36:57):
or something like like curl. I feel like some you know,
like those that you put on and you take out
at night just for like special occasions, because they're like,
they want your hair to look fuller. What is this
talking about hair? I don't know, but yeah, like like
fuller and then like and they're like in curl it

(37:20):
a little more, and like I don't know, I don't
know what the intention is, but you know, they want that,
they want that. But they definitely are very happy, especially
your sister. They're definitely very happy about how you look.
And mostly they're very happy about your smile, about your

(37:49):
You've you've really tried. You're really trying, you know, and
maybe you don't think so maybe you're. But they're like,
she's she's doing her best and she's doing good. And
she's like, if you have to cry, you have to cry,
if you have to laugh, you have to laugh. There's
no rules, you know, is to like mourning a person

(38:12):
or mourning more than one, you know, there's no rule.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
It might take me thirty years, you know, I mean,
I had he told him, tell me one day that like, oh,
oh my god, your mom's been gone this long, like
you shouldn't still be sad, And I'm like, fuck you,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I always tell you, don't.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Tell me what to feel. Don't tell me what to
feel of course of course. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
And also like you got me, you got me with
the sunshine. That just.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
That was a highlight. I'm so happy so get that.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
As long as I live, I will never figure well
because nobody, that's not something you google.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You can't. It's not on any show I've been like,
nobody would know that.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Oh no, and I don't google or anything like in this.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yet, That's what I'm saying, Like, no, you would know
that that, nobody would know that.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It made a very No. I'm so glad that you
could get something out of, you know, out of this
like that. But she's she's very proud. Mommy's proud. Okay,
thank you, Okay, okay, now let me send off Sally Donald,
Teresa Donald Senior. We're all gonna send them back to

(39:25):
the light where they belong. Can I give you back
all of your energy and I take back mine. Everything
is perfect, Amen,