February 25, 2025 • 22 mins
We welcome Marya Khalil-otto. Business woman, speaker, wife and mother. CEO of the Vitality Institute, leader in the skincare industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What language did he speak?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He spoke a few languages.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
He's kind of like talking like like somebody in like
a Cuban talks in English.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Oh you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Like that, he's talking like that, but how he talks
really Okay, Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just
about connecting with decised loved ones, it's about learning through
them and their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy.
(00:32):
So Blady can join us today. Our guest is Maria
Khalil Otto. I love that name.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
By the way. We had such a good time. It
was so funny.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I want to tell you a little bit that she
never said that she wanted to talk to her dad.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
She just said, let me tell.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You who I want to talk to, and he said,
she says, Abdallah Khalil.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I don't know. Abdallah seemed to me like a girl's name.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And I'm like, okay, I am assuming that this is
your grandma and she's like, no, it's my dad.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, Okay, the name kind of
sounded like a girl. But she wasn't offended at all.
She's like, yeah, the a, the A doesn't work at
the end.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
There were really good things that we accomplished, but the
best one was at the end. She needed to know
about how he died, and fortunately he answered her questions
and it all made sense.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's wow, it was incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And lots of flickering lights, remember when Curly when we
had Curly again, the flickering lights, And she says that
at her house whenever she's talking about him, the lights flicker.
So it was definitely a moment. It was like twice
or three times something like that. Anyway, enjoying ghost therapy.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I hope you like it, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's just the first thing that he mentions, if this
is truly him, something about something happening four times kind
of or like repetitively before he died.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Does that make any sense to you?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Maybe four or five or three, but it's something that
happened like three times or four times before he died.
He's kind of saying, and then again and again and again,
and then I died.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But he insists in saying something.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
About kind of like he thought he was going to
die and then he didn't, and then he thought he
was going to die, and then he.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Didn't, and then I'm not.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I don't know if this is like during his uh
like before his death right away or before, but he's
talking about him not wanting to see anybody or not
wanting to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He makes he makes like a grouchy face. I don't
know if that makes sense to you.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, that makes sense to me. He before he passed,
he became a recluse. He didn't want to see anybody.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Right, Okay, he's kind of like, not not validating, but
kind of saying, I'm sorry. You know, he just mentioned
something about him being kind of like mad on the inside, right,
and there was nothing anybody can do.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It was just him.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It was him kind of like you know, going inside himself.
And yeah, he's kind of apologizing, like, I'm sorry for
being such a grouch.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I don't think to you guys as much but.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
As in a like as a whole just not wanting
to interact. Does it make sense that his death had
to do with something like he shows me like a
crawling up the body kind of thing. I feel like
it covered him like he shows me like, which is
(04:11):
like symbolic obviously, but I feel something that began to
grow inside of him.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Does this make sense to you?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yes, it does make sense to me. Well, I think I.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Think like depression or anger, frustration can sort of grow
like a weed and yeah, take over you.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, because he's at the end, he's like inside of it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You see what I'm saying, Like what I understand is
like it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Consumed him and it you know, so it's like from
the bottom to the top. And then he covers himself
like I was totally inside of that, like inside of
the push, and he just it's so important for him
to kind of explain his process, right because I feel
(04:59):
like nobody on understood or nobody well I'm sure nobody
was in his place obviously, but it's something that I
think it boggles many people's mind, like what happened to you?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, this was this was not you.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's very accurate, Okay, And.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So he's just I guess he's going to be explaining
this little by little, but yeah, the consuming was a
big part of it, like a lot of sadness. He
shows me dark colors, so I'm sure it was it
had to do with darkness inside of him, inside of
his heart, inside of his mind.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And also he mentioned something about I lost.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I lost everything or I lost I don't know if
this is like a physical thing, but he's kind of
going to that. I think this is kind of like
where it started, something about a.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Loss that he had.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I feel like it's the body, but I don't know
if it was like a body or if it was
like something he loves.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
He lost his mom the year before or he No.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I feel it's something else business wise, maybe because that
sound yeah, money wise, I.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Got a friend to really betrayed him.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's it. That's where it is. I feel like he lost.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Maybe he lost a lot of money with that, or
maybe he lost, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He lost a lot of money, he lost a lot
of pride, lost a lot of trust.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, I think the pride.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
The pride would kind of explain like money and pride
would kind of explain how the consuming you know, like anger,
you know, anger, pride ego.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, he was very mad.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He's like I lost this, I lost all of it
and I couldn't put myself back together, you know, like
he was. I feel like he was ashamed, you know,
And and right now he's not ashamed because he's happy
and he's a perfect person that can't feel anything negative.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But that's what you know, that he's trying.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
To explain why he was acting like this, and then
and he's like, most of all I wanted to be
understood and I really wasn't. M okay, I'm gonna jump
a little towards your your life.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Here we go. He's he's talking a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
About he's asking you a question. He's like, do you
think this is good? Like he's kind of looking at
you from up there like you're not sure of your decisions.
And then things go ahead and go along, and then
and you're like he's asking you did you decide that
(07:48):
or did you just go along with the flow?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Or do you really like this?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Or you just said yes because everybody liked it. It's
like you have to step forward and kind of make
your voice heard because you're kind of going with okay
or trusting other people, which is good. It's fine. I'm
not saying that's bad. Something about I don't know, like
something that you have your say in.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't know if it's career wise or what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But it's like you're I feel like you're going with
the flow more than you are doing what you really
really really want to, you know, but you're kind of
used to going with the flow. So to you, it's
like it's normal. Does this make sense?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That sounds a lot like me.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yes, I go, okay, I don't really have a sense
of what I always want to do.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I think that's what your daddy's trying to tell you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Like you do. It's just you're so used to like
h you know, and it's more about the way.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The reason he brings it up is because he breaks
it up. This is the tone just so you know.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's like when you grab somebody by like react, you know,
like come on, say what you really feel, you know,
and it's not even like a bad thing you feel.
It's just like maybe, yeah, maybe you don't want ice cream,
you want frozen yogurt or whatever. It's a stupid way
to say it, but yeah, so you have to kind
of train yourself to speak out or to say because
(09:24):
there's nothing wrong with what you want.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, yeah, and definitely I don't like to be a burden.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right Okay, Okay, here we go, let me continue.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
This is like personal, but like he's saying, when you're
like in the mornings, I feel like it's a morning thing.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's like you're thinking, thinking, thinking, but no doing doing doing.
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It makes sense that I have a lot of anxiety. Oh,
I mean like I'm an overthinker.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's why he says thinking three times, thinking, thinking, thinking,
like doing doing doing, replace it like that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
What language did he speak?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He spoke a few languages?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Oh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
He's kind of like talking like like somebody in like
a Cuban talks in English. Oh you know what I'm
talking about? Like that, he's talking like that how you talk?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Really? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, English was not his first.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Language, okay, okaything else?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
He had an interesting accent.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's what it is. Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So that's why I'm saying, like what language am I
supposed to be speaking it?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But he's like talking with an accent? Okay? Oh yeah, okay, okay, the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Unique one that not everyone walked about you know.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah yeah yeah it sounds yeah like you like impression
I did, like, because yeah, that's crazy, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Any brothers or sisters.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I have two sisters.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Two sisters. Okay, do you mind giving me your giving
me their names?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Samara Sarah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He wants to talk about the sisters, but just in
a way, not in a bad.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Way or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But I feel like, like, don't expect something like that.
Don't kind of like be the bigger person kind of thing,
and don't expect. It's like let each one, you know,
kind of like find their way. I feel, you know,
(11:49):
just because you did not it doesn't mean they will
or they are. And I think I don't know if
this is accurate, but I feel like it could assumes
you a little bit that it's not done your way
or they're not doing what you feel they should be doing.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, that makes sense, and it's.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Not a bad thing, you know, because your dad is like.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Listen, you're doing great. I'm proud of you, and leave
it alone. It's like you do you, you do your things.
Don't expect it's I feel like he's kind of defending
each one, kind of saying like they're all different. You know,
they know nobody wants the same thing, so might as
(12:38):
well not expected.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It does make sense. I like to be in control,
and Okay, I want the best for them.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I do, And I don't know if we always make
the best decisions for ourselves. No, got it, But I
hear I hear my dad on that, and yes we're
each are on our own path, and we each have
our own destiny.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And you each have consequences of your actions, so good
or bad.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Good or bad.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But let them make their mistakes, let them go against
the wall. They're gonna get, you know, but that's the
lesson that they have to learn. You can't prevent them
from learning their lessons. And also he's like, don't worry.
You're not hurting anyone, not about the sisters. This is
something else.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I feel like you're worrying. He's like, don't worry. You're
not hurting anyone.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're not making anybody's life worse.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Do like just like he goes like this, go do
your thing. Nobody's hurting, not like you think. Let me
give you an example that he's trying to make. Like
you feel like your career or whatever you're doing is
you know, is you're consumed by your work and you're
(14:00):
friends are like over there abandoned or your husband or
something like that. And then it's like you feel like this,
you feel guilt because you feel you're hurting people because
of your actions. But he's like, and I feel like
your dad is like, you're not hurting anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
This is what life is. Do your thing.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Nobody and whoever doesn't understand it, well, too bad for them.
But this is your time to kind of like your
time to shine, your time to work, your time to
do your things. Nobody's gonna die, nobody's gonna you know,
there's not gonna be any big problem about it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So he wants you to stop worrying about That.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Makes sense, I think, yeah, I think it's hard to
do it all. It's hard to get to every aspect
in your life, and usually when one thing is doing well,
something else suffers.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah. True, you can't have it all.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah true, But no guilt, just as long as you
don't have guilt, because yeah, exactly, you can't have it all.
But don't think you're hurting anybody along the way, because
you aren't.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And that you need to know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You need to receive this message because he doesn't want
you to go about life with guilt that's not yours.
So if anybody maybe wants to make you feel guilty,
don't let them because you're because it's not true.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I do have a lot of guilt, you do, yeah,
just about nothing.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just have guilt of having anything nice or having
things that other people don't have, or yes, I just
have guilt.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah right, okay, so we need to work on that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I feel like some of the things that he's told you,
I feel it's like you take the list and go
to the psychologist tell them, so I.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Know this is what I have. Yeah, these are the
things I need to work on. I already know.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So go, that'll probably save you like a month worth therapy.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So yeah, let's work on the guilt a little bit
before continuing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay, do you have any questions?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh, my god, I have any questions for him?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I mean, oh, I probably have a lot of questions
for him.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I guess it's good to.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Know that if he's doing okay, an he feels better.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He's like when they get over there, they're forgiven. They
forgive and they.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Become just happy. They can't. God kind of takes away.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
The feelings of like remorse or hate, or they can't
miss you. They can't because they're with you all the time,
but they can't feel like they miss you. They can't
feel like they're mad, they can't feel pain. They only
can feel positive feelings, you know, So of course he's okay, Yes,
(17:13):
and no, nothing hurts.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He says, nothing hurts.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's nice.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, any more questions.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I guess I would want to ask him about his
his his ex partner, m just if she was malicious
or not?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Okay, Okay, it's all my random but I'm going to
read it to you as I wrote it, Okay, as
he dictated to me. He goes, she was wrong, for sure,
she was wrong, but not malicious. She will soon be
(17:51):
put in her place, but it doesn't have to do
with us. And then at the very last minute, he's like,
it was her, So you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
As long as you know what I'm talking about. Your
eyes You're like.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, I mean the last part it wasn't her.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Uh huh. Okay, So there was suspicion.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Well, there's suspicion over what happened yeah that night.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Okay, wow, okay, let me connect with that a little bit.
Are you are you curious about what happened that night?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
He goes like this, like.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Just nobody caught me or like literally caught caught me.
He says, nobody caught me.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's all it was.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
End of story, Like does that make sense to you?
Nobody caught me, do you know what that means? No,
I feel like literally falling, like nobody caught him falling.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's weird. I feel like it's that not like caught
him like I caught you in a lie.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, I don't know enough about Okay, what happened?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Oh okay, because he's like like he was, doesn't want
to talk about it kind of thing, you know, like just.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Uh, it's just he didn't fall that night. Nothing about falling,
nothing about falling that I know of, right, So it's
like nobody caught me on time. He goes like this,
like I don't know, Like, am I asking of the
night that he died? Are you asking about that?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That was just what I was wondering about.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
How did he die? Because I see him on.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
The floor he had a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Uh huh. But he was with somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
He was with his partner, right, and.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh maybe that's why he says it wasn't her. Okay, okay,
is it? I think?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But he was like how did they find him? Because
like I I feel like he fell and that was it.
M you see what I'm saying. So yeah, like nobody
maybe it wasn't like her his partner like didn't catch
him or didn't do anything about it or freaked out
or something like along those lines, like.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Ah, it felt like that was part of it, that
she didn't act quick enough.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, exactly, because he talks about on time. He said
on time, like he did nobody caught me on time.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, so probably.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Like maybe he was alone and then you know, later
he found him a little later, she found him a
little later, something like that, you know, and it was
it is what it is, you know, he was, but
it was I feel like it was so quick for him.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He doesn't like he didn't suffer, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
What I mean, what's he here?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I feel like she has wrong things about her, you know,
like like I'm not saying she's a saint, but in
that area she it wasn't her. But she has things
coming to her, Like there's things she's done and.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
It'll catch up. But it has nothing to do with you. Well,
this has come to an end.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Thank you so much for accepting it was just thank
you for your energy, thank you for being open.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Such a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I return Abdallah to the light where he belongs, and
I thank him for being here today.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I give you back your energy and I take mine back.
Everything is perfect. Amen, thank you so much. Can you
get here?
What language did he speak?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He spoke a few languages.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
He's kind of like talking like like somebody in like
a Cuban talks in English.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Oh you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Like that, he's talking like that, but how he talks
really Okay, Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just
about connecting with decised loved ones, it's about learning through
them and their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy.
(00:32):
So Blady can join us today. Our guest is Maria
Khalil Otto. I love that name.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
By the way. We had such a good time. It
was so funny.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I want to tell you a little bit that she
never said that she wanted to talk to her dad.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
She just said, let me tell.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You who I want to talk to, and he said,
she says, Abdallah Khalil.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I don't know. Abdallah seemed to me like a girl's name.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And I'm like, okay, I am assuming that this is
your grandma and she's like, no, it's my dad.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, Okay, the name kind of
sounded like a girl. But she wasn't offended at all.
She's like, yeah, the a, the A doesn't work at
the end.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
There were really good things that we accomplished, but the
best one was at the end. She needed to know
about how he died, and fortunately he answered her questions
and it all made sense.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's wow, it was incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And lots of flickering lights, remember when Curly when we
had Curly again, the flickering lights, And she says that
at her house whenever she's talking about him, the lights flicker.
So it was definitely a moment. It was like twice
or three times something like that. Anyway, enjoying ghost therapy.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I hope you like it, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's just the first thing that he mentions, if this
is truly him, something about something happening four times kind
of or like repetitively before he died.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Does that make any sense to you?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Maybe four or five or three, but it's something that
happened like three times or four times before he died.
He's kind of saying, and then again and again and again,
and then I died.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But he insists in saying something.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
About kind of like he thought he was going to
die and then he didn't, and then he thought he
was going to die, and then he.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Didn't, and then I'm not.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I don't know if this is like during his uh
like before his death right away or before, but he's
talking about him not wanting to see anybody or not
wanting to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He makes he makes like a grouchy face. I don't
know if that makes sense to you.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, that makes sense to me. He before he passed,
he became a recluse. He didn't want to see anybody.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Right, Okay, he's kind of like, not not validating, but
kind of saying, I'm sorry. You know, he just mentioned
something about him being kind of like mad on the inside, right,
and there was nothing anybody can do.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It was just him.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It was him kind of like you know, going inside himself.
And yeah, he's kind of apologizing, like, I'm sorry for
being such a grouch.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I don't think to you guys as much but.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
As in a like as a whole just not wanting
to interact. Does it make sense that his death had
to do with something like he shows me like a
crawling up the body kind of thing. I feel like
it covered him like he shows me like, which is
(04:11):
like symbolic obviously, but I feel something that began to
grow inside of him.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Does this make sense to you?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yes, it does make sense to me. Well, I think I.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Think like depression or anger, frustration can sort of grow
like a weed and yeah, take over you.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, because he's at the end, he's like inside of it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You see what I'm saying, Like what I understand is
like it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Consumed him and it you know, so it's like from
the bottom to the top. And then he covers himself
like I was totally inside of that, like inside of
the push, and he just it's so important for him
to kind of explain his process, right because I feel
(04:59):
like nobody on understood or nobody well I'm sure nobody
was in his place obviously, but it's something that I
think it boggles many people's mind, like what happened to you?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, this was this was not you.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's very accurate, Okay, And.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So he's just I guess he's going to be explaining
this little by little, but yeah, the consuming was a
big part of it, like a lot of sadness. He
shows me dark colors, so I'm sure it was it
had to do with darkness inside of him, inside of
his heart, inside of his mind.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And also he mentioned something about I lost.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I lost everything or I lost I don't know if
this is like a physical thing, but he's kind of
going to that. I think this is kind of like
where it started, something about a.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Loss that he had.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I feel like it's the body, but I don't know
if it was like a body or if it was
like something he loves.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
He lost his mom the year before or he No.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I feel it's something else business wise, maybe because that
sound yeah, money wise, I.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Got a friend to really betrayed him.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's it. That's where it is. I feel like he lost.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Maybe he lost a lot of money with that, or
maybe he lost, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He lost a lot of money, he lost a lot
of pride, lost a lot of trust.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, I think the pride.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
The pride would kind of explain like money and pride
would kind of explain how the consuming you know, like anger,
you know, anger, pride ego.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, he was very mad.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He's like I lost this, I lost all of it
and I couldn't put myself back together, you know, like
he was. I feel like he was ashamed, you know,
And and right now he's not ashamed because he's happy
and he's a perfect person that can't feel anything negative.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But that's what you know, that he's trying.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
To explain why he was acting like this, and then
and he's like, most of all I wanted to be
understood and I really wasn't. M okay, I'm gonna jump
a little towards your your life.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Here we go. He's he's talking a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
About he's asking you a question. He's like, do you
think this is good? Like he's kind of looking at
you from up there like you're not sure of your decisions.
And then things go ahead and go along, and then
and you're like he's asking you did you decide that
(07:48):
or did you just go along with the flow?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Or do you really like this?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Or you just said yes because everybody liked it. It's
like you have to step forward and kind of make
your voice heard because you're kind of going with okay
or trusting other people, which is good. It's fine. I'm
not saying that's bad. Something about I don't know, like
something that you have your say in.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't know if it's career wise or what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But it's like you're I feel like you're going with
the flow more than you are doing what you really
really really want to, you know, but you're kind of
used to going with the flow. So to you, it's
like it's normal. Does this make sense?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That sounds a lot like me.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yes, I go, okay, I don't really have a sense
of what I always want to do.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I think that's what your daddy's trying to tell you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Like you do. It's just you're so used to like
h you know, and it's more about the way.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The reason he brings it up is because he breaks
it up. This is the tone just so you know.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's like when you grab somebody by like react, you know,
like come on, say what you really feel, you know,
and it's not even like a bad thing you feel.
It's just like maybe, yeah, maybe you don't want ice cream,
you want frozen yogurt or whatever. It's a stupid way
to say it, but yeah, so you have to kind
of train yourself to speak out or to say because
(09:24):
there's nothing wrong with what you want.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, yeah, and definitely I don't like to be a burden.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right Okay, Okay, here we go, let me continue.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
This is like personal, but like he's saying, when you're
like in the mornings, I feel like it's a morning thing.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's like you're thinking, thinking, thinking, but no doing doing doing.
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It makes sense that I have a lot of anxiety. Oh,
I mean like I'm an overthinker.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's why he says thinking three times, thinking, thinking, thinking,
like doing doing doing, replace it like that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
What language did he speak?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He spoke a few languages?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Oh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
He's kind of like talking like like somebody in like
a Cuban talks in English. Oh you know what I'm
talking about? Like that, he's talking like that how you talk?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Really? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, English was not his first.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Language, okay, okaything else?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
He had an interesting accent.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's what it is. Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So that's why I'm saying, like what language am I
supposed to be speaking it?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But he's like talking with an accent? Okay? Oh yeah, okay, okay, the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Unique one that not everyone walked about you know.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah yeah yeah it sounds yeah like you like impression
I did, like, because yeah, that's crazy, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Any brothers or sisters.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I have two sisters.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Two sisters. Okay, do you mind giving me your giving
me their names?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Samara Sarah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He wants to talk about the sisters, but just in
a way, not in a bad.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Way or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But I feel like, like, don't expect something like that.
Don't kind of like be the bigger person kind of thing,
and don't expect. It's like let each one, you know,
kind of like find their way. I feel, you know,
(11:49):
just because you did not it doesn't mean they will
or they are. And I think I don't know if
this is accurate, but I feel like it could assumes
you a little bit that it's not done your way
or they're not doing what you feel they should be doing.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, that makes sense, and it's.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Not a bad thing, you know, because your dad is like.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Listen, you're doing great. I'm proud of you, and leave
it alone. It's like you do you, you do your things.
Don't expect it's I feel like he's kind of defending
each one, kind of saying like they're all different. You know,
they know nobody wants the same thing, so might as
(12:38):
well not expected.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It does make sense. I like to be in control,
and Okay, I want the best for them.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I do, And I don't know if we always make
the best decisions for ourselves. No, got it, But I
hear I hear my dad on that, and yes we're
each are on our own path, and we each have
our own destiny.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And you each have consequences of your actions, so good
or bad.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Good or bad.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But let them make their mistakes, let them go against
the wall. They're gonna get, you know, but that's the
lesson that they have to learn. You can't prevent them
from learning their lessons. And also he's like, don't worry.
You're not hurting anyone, not about the sisters. This is
something else.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I feel like you're worrying. He's like, don't worry. You're
not hurting anyone.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're not making anybody's life worse.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Do like just like he goes like this, go do
your thing. Nobody's hurting, not like you think. Let me
give you an example that he's trying to make. Like
you feel like your career or whatever you're doing is
you know, is you're consumed by your work and you're
(14:00):
friends are like over there abandoned or your husband or
something like that. And then it's like you feel like this,
you feel guilt because you feel you're hurting people because
of your actions. But he's like, and I feel like
your dad is like, you're not hurting anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
This is what life is. Do your thing.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Nobody and whoever doesn't understand it, well, too bad for them.
But this is your time to kind of like your
time to shine, your time to work, your time to
do your things. Nobody's gonna die, nobody's gonna you know,
there's not gonna be any big problem about it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So he wants you to stop worrying about That.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Makes sense, I think, yeah, I think it's hard to
do it all. It's hard to get to every aspect
in your life, and usually when one thing is doing well,
something else suffers.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah. True, you can't have it all.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah true, But no guilt, just as long as you
don't have guilt, because yeah, exactly, you can't have it all.
But don't think you're hurting anybody along the way, because
you aren't.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And that you need to know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You need to receive this message because he doesn't want
you to go about life with guilt that's not yours.
So if anybody maybe wants to make you feel guilty,
don't let them because you're because it's not true.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I do have a lot of guilt, you do, yeah,
just about nothing.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just have guilt of having anything nice or having
things that other people don't have, or yes, I just
have guilt.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah right, okay, so we need to work on that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I feel like some of the things that he's told you,
I feel it's like you take the list and go
to the psychologist tell them, so I.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Know this is what I have. Yeah, these are the
things I need to work on. I already know.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So go, that'll probably save you like a month worth therapy.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So yeah, let's work on the guilt a little bit
before continuing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay, do you have any questions?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh, my god, I have any questions for him?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I mean, oh, I probably have a lot of questions
for him.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I guess it's good to.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Know that if he's doing okay, an he feels better.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He's like when they get over there, they're forgiven. They
forgive and they.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Become just happy. They can't. God kind of takes away.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
The feelings of like remorse or hate, or they can't
miss you. They can't because they're with you all the time,
but they can't feel like they miss you. They can't
feel like they're mad, they can't feel pain. They only
can feel positive feelings, you know, So of course he's okay, Yes,
(17:13):
and no, nothing hurts.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He says, nothing hurts.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's nice.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, any more questions.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I guess I would want to ask him about his
his his ex partner, m just if she was malicious
or not?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Okay, Okay, it's all my random but I'm going to
read it to you as I wrote it, Okay, as
he dictated to me. He goes, she was wrong, for sure,
she was wrong, but not malicious. She will soon be
(17:51):
put in her place, but it doesn't have to do
with us. And then at the very last minute, he's like,
it was her, So you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
As long as you know what I'm talking about. Your
eyes You're like.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, I mean the last part it wasn't her.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Uh huh. Okay, So there was suspicion.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Well, there's suspicion over what happened yeah that night.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Okay, wow, okay, let me connect with that a little bit.
Are you are you curious about what happened that night?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
He goes like this, like.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Just nobody caught me or like literally caught caught me.
He says, nobody caught me.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's all it was.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
End of story, Like does that make sense to you?
Nobody caught me, do you know what that means? No,
I feel like literally falling, like nobody caught him falling.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's weird. I feel like it's that not like caught
him like I caught you in a lie.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, I don't know enough about Okay, what happened?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Oh okay, because he's like like he was, doesn't want
to talk about it kind of thing, you know, like just.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Uh, it's just he didn't fall that night. Nothing about falling,
nothing about falling that I know of, right, So it's
like nobody caught me on time. He goes like this,
like I don't know, Like, am I asking of the
night that he died? Are you asking about that?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That was just what I was wondering about.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
How did he die? Because I see him on.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
The floor he had a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Uh huh. But he was with somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
He was with his partner, right, and.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh maybe that's why he says it wasn't her. Okay, okay,
is it? I think?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But he was like how did they find him? Because
like I I feel like he fell and that was it.
M you see what I'm saying. So yeah, like nobody
maybe it wasn't like her his partner like didn't catch
him or didn't do anything about it or freaked out
or something like along those lines, like.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Ah, it felt like that was part of it, that
she didn't act quick enough.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, exactly, because he talks about on time. He said
on time, like he did nobody caught me on time.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, so probably.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Like maybe he was alone and then you know, later
he found him a little later, she found him a
little later, something like that, you know, and it was
it is what it is, you know, he was, but
it was I feel like it was so quick for him.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He doesn't like he didn't suffer, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
What I mean, what's he here?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I feel like she has wrong things about her, you know,
like like I'm not saying she's a saint, but in
that area she it wasn't her. But she has things
coming to her, Like there's things she's done and.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
It'll catch up. But it has nothing to do with you. Well,
this has come to an end.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Thank you so much for accepting it was just thank
you for your energy, thank you for being open.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Such a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I return Abdallah to the light where he belongs, and
I thank him for being here today.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I give you back your energy and I take mine back.
Everything is perfect. Amen, thank you so much. Can you
get here?
Host
Paola Pedroza
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