April 22, 2025 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So got in a way helped everybody out. Does this
makes sense?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh my god, yeah, we're two minutes and I didn't
think that I was going to be crying already.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
No worries, they're happy tears. They're happy tears.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with decised loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Have you ever wondered what your loved
one felt before they died, Well, Mama Gomes got a
(00:38):
little piece of that and definitely definitely made her feel
much better. Welcome to ghost Therapy. I'm power Rosa. Thank
you so much for joining us today. This time around,
Mamagomes received a visit from her grandfather.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He was the patriarch, was the man, and.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He approached us in such a loving way, in such
a beautiful way that she kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Remembers him like that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But at the same time, there was a lot of
respect towards him. It was a little a very good combination,
but like I said, she found out what he was
feeling right before dying.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Here's Mava Gomez.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Goes Therapy. We're here with Mava Gomez welcome, MAV.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We're so happy to have you on the show. Are
you ready?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh my god, I'm glad you're excited. Who are we
going to talk to today?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
My grandfather hopefully awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Okay, can you give me his name please?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
His name is Hector, but in my family everyone called
him no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, okay, so no, no, okay, yes. Do you have
the year that he passed away?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh my god, I was seven, so this must have
been either two thousand and seven or two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, so here we go, ready, Yeah, okay, let me
let him.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The first thing that comes into my circle is that
was he kind of like the patriarch of the family,
like because he makes me seem like everybody would go
to him.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We're very very close family, and he was kind of
like the one thing that kept everything together. Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
He wants to start off with that because he said
he's laughing about it because he's like, when I was gone, everything,
you know, everything turned a little sideways, a little yeah
and yeah, and he he doesn't mind it, like he's
not mad about it, but it's like you see, I
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feel like and correct me if I'm wrong. I feel
like many people in your family kind of tried.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, everyone tried and everyone failed failed exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And he's like, ah, that like exactly. It wasn't that
easy like you thought. You know, you know, I was
the one and only and he said, you know what,
everybody tried.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's okay. But I think that maybe you know.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It had to do It had to do with everybody
had having to grow up because he was gone, and
even though it was very sad and everything, it's just
everybody had to have their own life, their own path,
and while I was in and in their lives, it
wasn't going to ever happen. So God in a way
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helped everybody out. Does this makes sense?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh my god? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
For two minutes in, I didn't think that I was
going to be crying already.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
No worries. They're happy tears. They're happy tears.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
She he mentions you as, I feel like I don't
want to be off or anything, but I feel like
his favorite or maybe his Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Absolute, yeah, and everybody knew it.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It was so obvious this.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He did. Was he your kind of grandfather father for
a little.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
While, Yeah, we lived in Canada for a while and
my dad wasn't there, so he was kind of like
my father figure for a little bit because my dad
couldn't come.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Right, That's what it is. He's like, I was so
I was so happy.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He's like, you gave me, You gave me life, you
gave me hope, you gave me everything that he enjoyed
every single minute of it. He's like, I'm not I'm
not here to tell you know that I helped you. No,
but it was more about I helped you, but you
guys helped me, and that your mom needs to needs
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to hear this too. He's like, you gave me life,
and he was. He's so happy about it, and he's
so proud that he could do it for you.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And is there a little brother? You have a little brother?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
No, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I have younger cousins who I grew up really close with, okay,
because we all lived in the same house.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
But I myself don't have siblings.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Got it? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Because I see this little kid running around just kind
of like a menace. Oh, I don't know if that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
My youngest well, they're not my youngest cousins anymore. But
my youngest cousins at the time when he was born
were very little. They were like, oh, they were like
two and.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
There were two boys. So there were two boys and
a girl.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And oh okay at that age, yes, pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They were all very little, and they were all very
they were big menaces, I would.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Say, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So I think he wants to address that because he's like,
he laughs about it, because I feel like he has
to say sorry for not having the same patience for them.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Okay, and he did maybe for you.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That's so funny. Yes, that is.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, he's like, you know, I was the.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
First one of the grandchildren. Oh okay, so I was
the one that he got to spend most time.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
No wonder of course, a little girl, the first one.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh my gosh, yes, I get it. I get it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So whoever needs to hear this, he's very sorry about
not having that much patience.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I will let them know they were something else.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, let's continue.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
This is very random. But are you into the business
of perfumes or something about perfumes? Does this make sense?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
No, okay, no problem.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Sometimes random things come into my mind and I say
them just in case.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
You know, Okay, okay, he's encouraging you.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I don't know what's happening exactly in your life right now,
but he's encouraging you to do something that you kind
of don't want to do. That the outcome is you
looking stronger you, I feel, to the two people as
well as to yourself of course, but he's like, do it.
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You're gonna make You're gonna look stronger, You're gonna look powerful,
You're gonna it's kind of like you're gonna, uh mark
your point or something, mark your place, and it will
be something that, yeah, is something that will mark your life.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Does this make sense at all?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I got offered to do a job that it's a
job that I've done in the past, and I didn't
really have a good experience with this, so I tried
to stay away from what and I just got an
offer and I said yes, But I've been like second
guessing it. I just had such a bad experience before.
But I know I'm good at it. So I'm kind
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of like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Right, Maybe you're in a different maybe you're like in
a different point in your life. Maybe the people will
be different. Maybe you know the energy is different, so
don't be afraid of it because I feel like this
and you know what, if it makes you stronger, that
makes sense. Like you said, it didn't go well last time, Okay,
so now it's gonna go good because you're gonna be
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strong because you know what you're getting into yourself into
now and you're gonna be able to kind of, yeah,
you know, defend your place.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, Okay, cool, So don't don't doubt it. I think
it's gonna go very.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well for you.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Thank you, okay, hopeful, Okay, yeah, okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Was there?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
This is something about a night to remember for you
and it has to do with him. Did he die
at a point like you were in the dark or
it was night time, or you were scared something around
those lines makes sense.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I was a little scared of him towards the end
because he had cancer and so he looked very different.
Oh God, I don't remember the exact night that he died,
but that like last couple of weeks because it all
happened very fast too. The last couple of weeks were
(10:30):
like so different in our family dynamic because the kids
were scared of him, and we were always with him,
and so it was all very different from how life
normally was.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Of course, you didn't recognize him anymore. He wasn't the
same person physically and mentally and emotionally. Probably exactly, he
just wanted to validate that. I don't know why, but
it was kind of like when he when he went
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to heaven.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
He saw that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I guess he didn't see that when you when he
was alive, so maybe you know, maybe A he felt
bad about it, but now he understands, you know, like
you were scared of him. It was different for you
and not like I forge, not like he forgives you.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But he's like I am.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Now, He's like, now I understand why why you were
acting that way, or why you didn't want to maybe
go in that much to the room or whatever, because
you were scared.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yea, And we all we did all live in the
same house, and so I towards the last couple of days,
I don't think I ever went into his room like
I would see him in his room. But also another thing,
now that I'm thinking about it, that you said about
the dark, I am very uncomfortable in the dark still
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to this day, Like as an adults, I'm not a.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Big fan of the dark. Okay, so maybe it has
to do with that as well. I'm not one hundred
percent sure.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's so funny because when he was telling me all this,
he showed me like a house, you know, like the
type of movies that we used to see, like the
really big hallway and all dark and then it's raining outside.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh my, then the lights go out.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Oh my god, that's crazy. No, that's exactly how our
house was. And I grew up in Venezuela and we
lived in the mountain, so it was always raining and
the power will always go out.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Oh way, no way, yes.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And it also had very long hallways.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Okay, there was I think, I think I know what
he might be talking about. Right before I left for college,
I was moving. I was moving to the United States,
and it was like a week before. I was watching
a movie with my mom and we or in her room.
Her room was at the end of the hallway, so
right outside her door there was a long, long hallway.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's what he shown me, and we were watching a movie.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
All the lights were off outside and the door was
like a jar, like it was like a little bit open,
and my mom fell asleep. I went to like turn
the lights off in her room, and I noticed that
the door was like fully open, and I could kind
of see someone standing at the end. But I just
got scared, obviously, I just got scared, and so I
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just like went and shut the door and I stayed
with my mom that night.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No way. Yeah, so, but but your grandfather had already.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes, my grandfather had already passed away. His ashes had
always been in the house.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh my god. Yeah, maybe you kind of saw him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Maybe it was kind of like when you said the
thing about my house. That was the first thing that
came to mine, and I told totally about it. My
family were like, you're just crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think it was him.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I think so, and not just yeah, and not to
scare you, but you know, maybe maybe you're like hi,
you know, maybe he was hoping.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
For some other reaction.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Maybe, well, you shouldn't have been so creepy.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, exactly. It's like, what do you mean to see
a ghost? Okay, I'm running away.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
And then the dark like that. It was really scary.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But I was moving away literally like days later, and
I still.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Haven't got back to that house. Unfortunately. So I don't know.
Maybe it was saying goodbye. I don't know, I don't
even know. Maybe, but that's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
We'll be here, yeah, go back, so I know, come
back soon.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm glad I said it to you like I saw it,
because sometimes I don't say it like I interpret it
and I give it to you. But I'm so glad
I said it because I feel like that was that
was something that he wanted to maybe remember, validate or
can make fun of you.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Oh yeah either or yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
My god, that's crazy. There's something about you singing.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Do you sing?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, he's just like so such a fan. Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He he's like, do you play guitar too?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
The ukulele?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Good, good, good, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's just something about like the combination that he loves
so much, like watching you doing both, I guess or
I don't know how how it works. He's so proud
of it because he's like, you're doing something different, you're
doing something beautiful, and he describes your voice like so
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like angelical, so beautiful, and he's like more than you
ever ever thought to be, you know, And he's like
just remember that there's time. There's time. Don't get ahead
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of yourself. It's gonna happen, you know. And I don't
know if like just this or more of your career
in it in some other way. But he's like, don't worry.
You're young. Worry about getting experience, worry about failing, worry
about just you know, playing in front of I don't know,
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the birds in your backyard. That's what you need to do,
you know, and then comes the rest. But if you're
not ready for the big deal, then everything well and
to sistinas get pretty bad at things kin series and
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you know, until you really really get it right, because
when the opportunity comes, you're not gonna be like, oh
hold on, oh you know, like it's gonna be sturdy,
it's gonna be you know, practiced, it's gonna be everything,
just like everything about yourself, you know, not just the singing,
everything else, like whatever you're looking towards the future.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Just he wants you.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
To be very prepared. And also something about shyness. Are
you very shy on on certain things like if you're
with your art, well you're not shy?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Oh yes, no, yes, I am with my art. I am.
I feel like me as a.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Person, I'm not shy at all, but then when it
comes to showing other people what I make, I really
second guess myself and I'm constantly kind of.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Like, oh, well, what if it's not good enough or
things like that.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Totally that songs, I know, I know, but you know
what he says two things, You know what you're doing,
and that's why you have to practice, because when you
know what you're doing, it just comes out naturally, you know.
And number two, he's like, use that shyness to benefit
you instead of go against you. Like if you're that
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little little shy girl, you know, singing and then suddenly
this beautiful song comes out, It's like, who cares if
you're shy, that's part of your personality.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You know, you don't have.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
To be this ah you know, beautiful mur you know
person like, oh you have you have to use it
because if that's you, then that's you. No matter how
much you practice, it's always going to be your essence.
And that's okay too, you know. But as long as
you know your shit, then the rest doesn't matter. And
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that's where you need to put in more time. Okay, okay,
even if it's in your room wherever it is, even
if you don't feel like it, this is what you decided.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
This is what you have to do. Okay, that's right, Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Also okay, do you have any questions so far?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I feel like, because he's been gone for so long,
there's so many things that I want to like ask
him and be like, have you been there for that?
I don't know, huh, But I think I primarily just
want to know if if he was, like if he
was able to pass on without any pain or without
or feeling bad for us or anything like that, Like
if it was all calm for him. I think we
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all we all talk about that pretty often in our
family that we just kind of like, hope he's okay, right,
I understand. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
He's like he's like, oh yeah, it was painful. He's like, yeah, yeah,
I heard right, you're not imagining things. But at the
same time, he's like, right now, I don't remember. I
don't like, you know, I don't care because when they
go up there, God is like you're forgiven.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Look at what you did right, look at what you did.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Wrong, and then boom he takes away the ability to
feel negative things. So if he did suffer, if he did,
you know, it was a process. He's like, it was
a process, you know it was. He goes like this,
but like right now, he's like, I don't care, I
don't remember. I'm super good over here. My body, like
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my soul, my body, everything works over here, and I'm
very happy. As soon as I close my eyes, I
went to heaven and I'm goody.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Okay, he's happy.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
He's been there.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, and he's been there and and like you know,
sometimes we think, you know, like he suffered. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's aferd But I'm fine, don't worry about it. It
doesn't matter anymore. Okay, Okay, So that's a good thing
to keep in mind. He's like, I'm not mad at anybody.
I forgave everybody. You know, everything is fine, because I
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feel like he was very correct me if I'm wrong,
like a little bit harsh or a little bit hard,
like like strong.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Absolutely with everyone. But me.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh what a beautiful thing. Okay, Okay he was because
he's a stern mad.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He's like, I know I was like that, you know,
and I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Of course he's not saying sorry to you, but he's like,
whoever you can tell, because they gave you know, they
show him.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Look at what you did. You weren't supposed to be
like this, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And he's like, I'm so sorry I didn't notice, or
maybe if I noticed, I didn't know it was such
a big deal, or maybe I was like hurting something.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So he's like, I'm really really sorry for being like that.
If you can tell your mom or whoever you need
to tell, I'm.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Gonna go into a family group toe.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right after this, he's like, I was old school. Oh yeah,
I gotta tell him, tell him, tell him that, please.
And he's laughing about it because he's like, wow, I
can't believe how I was like that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And then something about always wearing the same clothes. Does
that make sense to you?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Honestly, I'm not one hundred percent sure, okay, because for
his job he had to wear basically the same clothes,
like he was always wearing like a suit and a
tie and stuff like that. Oh okay, okay, so cor
relate to that to me, I feel like that's really
that so much.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
But I feel like maybe to him him in that sense.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It was I feel like he's making fun of himself.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh, like like the same pants kind of thing, or
like the same shirt, like he would and he wouldn't care,
like I'm just good, maybe like on the weekends, or
like he only had one pant, like one pair of
pants and a T shirt something like that, where he's
like making fun of himself. I don't know if maybe
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your mom can validate that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think I think for sure, Well, my grandma still
has all of his clothes and all of his all
of his suits and stuff, so okay, and there's not
that many actually, so maybe he did wear the same
ones over and over again.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And to be more specific, I see like he shows
me like these blue pants.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Kind of like maybe a jean, but very stretchy, not
a gean. It was like in between some jeans and
like a normal pant.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay, something about it being like stretchy and which is weird.
But he's showing me those pants and then a belt,
So tell maybe your grandmother maybe he I don't know, it's.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Just like a validation. Maybe it's no harm.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Did he hate them or no.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
He's making fun of himself like I always liked the
same thing to wear like I didn't care.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Okay, he was an after read.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yes, yes, yes, and he doesn't care and he's not sorry.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Okay, I'm gonna ask som that is so funny.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I ask your grandma. Maybe she
she kind of has more more context. Okay, you know,
maybe it was when they were young or something like that,
and he kept it for a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, more questions. You had more questions, let me.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Think, because I had another question. And then with what
you said, well that he said, okay, it kind of
answered the second question.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, Okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I guess does he think that I'm on the right
path because I feel like I dabbled between different things,
like different industries. All my jobs are very unrelated to
each other, but I like all of them, and I
always feel like every time that I move forward in
one of them, I feel like I'm doing something wrong
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because I should be moving forward and the.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Other ones right, you're being unfaithful to the other exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And then I'm just kind of like, well, I can't
do it all, but I just don't know which one
to pick because I want to do them all.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
If that makes sense, So I don't know to what
does he think?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Okay, let me ask him really quick. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
He's like, Okay, if I were alive, I would have
said be a doctor and that's it, and that's what
you have to do. And then he said, but now
that I look at it from up here, he's like,
why do we have to live our life doing the
same thing every single day? And you know, just like
(25:56):
one career and that's what we're taught. And he's like,
I love that you go and you know, do this
and then do that and go back and forth. He's like,
who says you can't do that? Who says that it's wrong?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
He's like, it's totally not my character to say this,
but he's like, I just want you to be happy, Like,
take out of your head that how you're living life
right now is wrong, because there's time somehow everything will
come together as God wants it to be. Meanwhile, have fun,
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grab experiences, grab stories, and learn how to do.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
A lot of things, and God will show you the way.
That's that's not a problem.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
But you don't have to decide or you don't have
to be a certain somebody at this moment right now,
and be the same person every single day, okay, you know,
and everything just you know, everything will fall into place.
I feel like, like you said, if you go this
path and then suddenly you miss the other ones, maybe
(27:12):
one day you're going to go down that path and
you won't miss the other ones and you'll be like,
oh okay, I like this, okay, and continue, but it
fits up bringing you back then, don't do it?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Okay, do this, do this, do that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
He's he's like so happy, like he's so hip now,
you know, he's so.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
He's so open minded, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So he's like he had a government job my whole life,
the whole time I was alive, he always had a
government job. So it was very buy the book, yeah,
follow the rules and everything. And he kind of wanted
that from everyone else in my family. But my mom
and all her siblings are all like musicians and artists
(27:57):
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Oh that, I'm sure he didn't like.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
That at all.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
He was also a musician and his father was an artist.
But to him, it was very much like at home,
we can be musicians and artists, but.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
We need to have another job. We need to do
something else that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, and so it makes.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
For him to now be like who cares, just do whatever.
I'm kind of like, that's awesome, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
If he says it, then yeah, you know, because he
was raised very exactly. Yeah, yeah, No, he's happy about it.
He's your fan and he loves what you do. And
I feel like he's there when you're playing, you know,
like yes, you know, like doing all these Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(28:49):
he's you know, he's happy for you.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's happy for you and.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Very in many ways as if I know you told
me this about his family, but he's like, I'm glad
that you're going to be the one that you know,
goes above and beyond and does what she what you want,
not what everybody else wants you to do.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
That's awesome, especially that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I always just feel so like scared to let
my family down or something like that. Right, But everything
that I do, I always do it because I want
to make them proud.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So exactly, the way you make your family proud is
by being happy. That's all we want mothers for kids,
we want them happy.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
So don't you worry. You're on the right path.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He enjoys it, and believe he's looking from up there,
so I think he knows a thing or two about what's.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Going to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Well. Also, as long as he's happy, I'm happy totally.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And when you're happy, then everything else, you know, falls
into place so awesome. So there's more success in liking
what you do. Then there isn't just doing it for
money or for what, which I knew. I know you don't,
but you know what that.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, absolutely, I do struggle with that too. That Like
everyone is always saying stuff like, oh, but how are
you going to make money doing that?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And I'm always like, I just want to make stuff
that makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's a conversation that I have very often about the
money and everything. It'll come, it'll come, yeah, you know
That's where I always say, money comes and goes, and
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And the more energy you put into being happy, it's
like everything else around you is, you know, like everything else,
like the energy you know, just like separates and starts
flowing all over the place. So you're gonna do well.
I see I see a really I see a future
(30:55):
for you where there's peace in your heart always, there's
love for what to do, and there will always be
a place for you to express and for you to play,
and for you to you know, use your art as
you wish.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
That's awesome. Thank you, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay, I'm going to say goodbye to Ektor with a
little pair. Thank you actor for being with us today,
and thank you for all your messages. I thank god,
my guys and my angels. Thank you so so much.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
MAV. I give you back all your energy and I
take mine back.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
But l.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Everything's perfect.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Amen LISTO Oh, it was so good meeting you. You're
such a You're such a beautiful soul.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, I appreciate that you believed in us, and thank
you for letting us record you.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Absolutely Yeah, thank you guys so much for the opportunity.
It was really fun.
So got in a way helped everybody out. Does this
makes sense?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh my god, yeah, we're two minutes and I didn't
think that I was going to be crying already.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
No worries, they're happy tears. They're happy tears.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with decised loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Have you ever wondered what your loved
one felt before they died, Well, Mama Gomes got a
(00:38):
little piece of that and definitely definitely made her feel
much better. Welcome to ghost Therapy. I'm power Rosa. Thank
you so much for joining us today. This time around,
Mamagomes received a visit from her grandfather.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He was the patriarch, was the man, and.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He approached us in such a loving way, in such
a beautiful way that she kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Remembers him like that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But at the same time, there was a lot of
respect towards him. It was a little a very good combination,
but like I said, she found out what he was
feeling right before dying.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Here's Mava Gomez.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Goes Therapy. We're here with Mava Gomez welcome, MAV.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We're so happy to have you on the show. Are
you ready?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh my god, I'm glad you're excited. Who are we
going to talk to today?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
My grandfather hopefully awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Okay, can you give me his name please?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
His name is Hector, but in my family everyone called
him no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, okay, so no, no, okay, yes. Do you have
the year that he passed away?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh my god, I was seven, so this must have
been either two thousand and seven or two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, so here we go, ready, Yeah, okay, let me
let him.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The first thing that comes into my circle is that
was he kind of like the patriarch of the family,
like because he makes me seem like everybody would go
to him.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We're very very close family, and he was kind of
like the one thing that kept everything together. Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
He wants to start off with that because he said
he's laughing about it because he's like, when I was gone, everything,
you know, everything turned a little sideways, a little yeah
and yeah, and he he doesn't mind it, like he's
not mad about it, but it's like you see, I
(03:42):
feel like and correct me if I'm wrong. I feel
like many people in your family kind of tried.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, everyone tried and everyone failed failed exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And he's like, ah, that like exactly. It wasn't that
easy like you thought. You know, you know, I was
the one and only and he said, you know what,
everybody tried.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's okay. But I think that maybe you know.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It had to do It had to do with everybody
had having to grow up because he was gone, and
even though it was very sad and everything, it's just
everybody had to have their own life, their own path,
and while I was in and in their lives, it
wasn't going to ever happen. So God in a way
(04:30):
helped everybody out. Does this makes sense?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh my god? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
For two minutes in, I didn't think that I was
going to be crying already.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
No worries. They're happy tears. They're happy tears.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
She he mentions you as, I feel like I don't
want to be off or anything, but I feel like
his favorite or maybe his Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Absolute, yeah, and everybody knew it.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It was so obvious this.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He did. Was he your kind of grandfather father for
a little.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
While, Yeah, we lived in Canada for a while and
my dad wasn't there, so he was kind of like
my father figure for a little bit because my dad
couldn't come.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Right, That's what it is. He's like, I was so
I was so happy.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He's like, you gave me, You gave me life, you
gave me hope, you gave me everything that he enjoyed
every single minute of it. He's like, I'm not I'm
not here to tell you know that I helped you. No,
but it was more about I helped you, but you
guys helped me, and that your mom needs to needs
(05:46):
to hear this too. He's like, you gave me life,
and he was. He's so happy about it, and he's
so proud that he could do it for you.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And is there a little brother? You have a little brother?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
No, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I have younger cousins who I grew up really close with, okay,
because we all lived in the same house.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
But I myself don't have siblings.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Got it? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Because I see this little kid running around just kind
of like a menace. Oh, I don't know if that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
My youngest well, they're not my youngest cousins anymore. But
my youngest cousins at the time when he was born
were very little. They were like, oh, they were like
two and.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
There were two boys. So there were two boys and
a girl.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And oh okay at that age, yes, pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They were all very little, and they were all very
they were big menaces, I would.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Say, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So I think he wants to address that because he's like,
he laughs about it, because I feel like he has
to say sorry for not having the same patience for them.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Okay, and he did maybe for you.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That's so funny. Yes, that is.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, he's like, you know, I was the.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
First one of the grandchildren. Oh okay, so I was
the one that he got to spend most time.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
No wonder of course, a little girl, the first one.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh my gosh, yes, I get it. I get it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So whoever needs to hear this, he's very sorry about
not having that much patience.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I will let them know they were something else.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, let's continue.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
This is very random. But are you into the business
of perfumes or something about perfumes? Does this make sense?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
No, okay, no problem.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Sometimes random things come into my mind and I say
them just in case.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
You know, Okay, okay, he's encouraging you.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I don't know what's happening exactly in your life right now,
but he's encouraging you to do something that you kind
of don't want to do. That the outcome is you
looking stronger you, I feel, to the two people as
well as to yourself of course, but he's like, do it.
(08:24):
You're gonna make You're gonna look stronger, You're gonna look powerful,
You're gonna it's kind of like you're gonna, uh mark
your point or something, mark your place, and it will
be something that, yeah, is something that will mark your life.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Does this make sense at all?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I got offered to do a job that it's a
job that I've done in the past, and I didn't
really have a good experience with this, so I tried
to stay away from what and I just got an
offer and I said yes, But I've been like second
guessing it. I just had such a bad experience before.
But I know I'm good at it. So I'm kind
(09:04):
of like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Right, Maybe you're in a different maybe you're like in
a different point in your life. Maybe the people will
be different. Maybe you know the energy is different, so
don't be afraid of it because I feel like this
and you know what, if it makes you stronger, that
makes sense. Like you said, it didn't go well last time, Okay,
so now it's gonna go good because you're gonna be
(09:28):
strong because you know what you're getting into yourself into
now and you're gonna be able to kind of, yeah,
you know, defend your place.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, Okay, cool, So don't don't doubt it. I think
it's gonna go very.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well for you.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Thank you, okay, hopeful, Okay, yeah, okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Was there?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
This is something about a night to remember for you
and it has to do with him. Did he die
at a point like you were in the dark or
it was night time, or you were scared something around
those lines makes sense.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I was a little scared of him towards the end
because he had cancer and so he looked very different.
Oh God, I don't remember the exact night that he died,
but that like last couple of weeks because it all
happened very fast too. The last couple of weeks were
(10:30):
like so different in our family dynamic because the kids
were scared of him, and we were always with him,
and so it was all very different from how life
normally was.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Of course, you didn't recognize him anymore. He wasn't the
same person physically and mentally and emotionally. Probably exactly, he
just wanted to validate that. I don't know why, but
it was kind of like when he when he went
(11:04):
to heaven.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
He saw that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I guess he didn't see that when you when he
was alive, so maybe you know, maybe A he felt
bad about it, but now he understands, you know, like
you were scared of him. It was different for you
and not like I forge, not like he forgives you.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But he's like I am.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Now, He's like, now I understand why why you were
acting that way, or why you didn't want to maybe
go in that much to the room or whatever, because
you were scared.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yea, And we all we did all live in the
same house, and so I towards the last couple of days,
I don't think I ever went into his room like
I would see him in his room. But also another thing,
now that I'm thinking about it, that you said about
the dark, I am very uncomfortable in the dark still
(11:58):
to this day, Like as an adults, I'm not a.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Big fan of the dark. Okay, so maybe it has
to do with that as well. I'm not one hundred
percent sure.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's so funny because when he was telling me all this,
he showed me like a house, you know, like the
type of movies that we used to see, like the
really big hallway and all dark and then it's raining outside.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh my, then the lights go out.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Oh my god, that's crazy. No, that's exactly how our
house was. And I grew up in Venezuela and we
lived in the mountain, so it was always raining and
the power will always go out.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Oh way, no way, yes.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And it also had very long hallways.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Okay, there was I think, I think I know what
he might be talking about. Right before I left for college,
I was moving. I was moving to the United States,
and it was like a week before. I was watching
a movie with my mom and we or in her room.
Her room was at the end of the hallway, so
right outside her door there was a long, long hallway.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's what he shown me, and we were watching a movie.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
All the lights were off outside and the door was
like a jar, like it was like a little bit open,
and my mom fell asleep. I went to like turn
the lights off in her room, and I noticed that
the door was like fully open, and I could kind
of see someone standing at the end. But I just
got scared, obviously, I just got scared, and so I
(13:35):
just like went and shut the door and I stayed
with my mom that night.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No way. Yeah, so, but but your grandfather had already.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes, my grandfather had already passed away. His ashes had
always been in the house.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh my god. Yeah, maybe you kind of saw him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Maybe it was kind of like when you said the
thing about my house. That was the first thing that
came to mine, and I told totally about it. My
family were like, you're just crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think it was him.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I think so, and not just yeah, and not to
scare you, but you know, maybe maybe you're like hi,
you know, maybe he was hoping.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
For some other reaction.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Maybe, well, you shouldn't have been so creepy.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, exactly. It's like, what do you mean to see
a ghost? Okay, I'm running away.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
And then the dark like that. It was really scary.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But I was moving away literally like days later, and
I still.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Haven't got back to that house. Unfortunately. So I don't know.
Maybe it was saying goodbye. I don't know, I don't
even know. Maybe, but that's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
We'll be here, yeah, go back, so I know, come
back soon.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm glad I said it to you like I saw it,
because sometimes I don't say it like I interpret it
and I give it to you. But I'm so glad
I said it because I feel like that was that
was something that he wanted to maybe remember, validate or
can make fun of you.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Oh yeah either or yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
My god, that's crazy. There's something about you singing.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Do you sing?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, he's just like so such a fan. Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He he's like, do you play guitar too?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
The ukulele?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Good, good, good, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's just something about like the combination that he loves
so much, like watching you doing both, I guess or
I don't know how how it works. He's so proud
of it because he's like, you're doing something different, you're
doing something beautiful, and he describes your voice like so
(15:59):
like angelical, so beautiful, and he's like more than you
ever ever thought to be, you know, And he's like
just remember that there's time. There's time. Don't get ahead
(16:20):
of yourself. It's gonna happen, you know. And I don't
know if like just this or more of your career
in it in some other way. But he's like, don't worry.
You're young. Worry about getting experience, worry about failing, worry
about just you know, playing in front of I don't know,
(16:43):
the birds in your backyard. That's what you need to do,
you know, and then comes the rest. But if you're
not ready for the big deal, then everything well and
to sistinas get pretty bad at things kin series and
(17:07):
you know, until you really really get it right, because
when the opportunity comes, you're not gonna be like, oh
hold on, oh you know, like it's gonna be sturdy,
it's gonna be you know, practiced, it's gonna be everything,
just like everything about yourself, you know, not just the singing,
everything else, like whatever you're looking towards the future.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Just he wants you.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
To be very prepared. And also something about shyness. Are
you very shy on on certain things like if you're
with your art, well you're not shy?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Oh yes, no, yes, I am with my art. I am.
I feel like me as a.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Person, I'm not shy at all, but then when it
comes to showing other people what I make, I really
second guess myself and I'm constantly kind of.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Like, oh, well, what if it's not good enough or
things like that.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Totally that songs, I know, I know, but you know
what he says two things, You know what you're doing,
and that's why you have to practice, because when you
know what you're doing, it just comes out naturally, you know.
And number two, he's like, use that shyness to benefit
you instead of go against you. Like if you're that
(18:24):
little little shy girl, you know, singing and then suddenly
this beautiful song comes out, It's like, who cares if
you're shy, that's part of your personality.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You know, you don't have.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
To be this ah you know, beautiful mur you know
person like, oh you have you have to use it
because if that's you, then that's you. No matter how
much you practice, it's always going to be your essence.
And that's okay too, you know. But as long as
you know your shit, then the rest doesn't matter. And
(18:57):
that's where you need to put in more time. Okay, okay,
even if it's in your room wherever it is, even
if you don't feel like it, this is what you decided.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
This is what you have to do. Okay, that's right, Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Also okay, do you have any questions so far?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I feel like, because he's been gone for so long,
there's so many things that I want to like ask
him and be like, have you been there for that?
I don't know, huh, But I think I primarily just
want to know if if he was, like if he
was able to pass on without any pain or without
or feeling bad for us or anything like that, Like
if it was all calm for him. I think we
(19:46):
all we all talk about that pretty often in our
family that we just kind of like, hope he's okay, right,
I understand. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
He's like he's like, oh yeah, it was painful. He's like, yeah, yeah,
I heard right, you're not imagining things. But at the
same time, he's like, right now, I don't remember. I
don't like, you know, I don't care because when they
go up there, God is like you're forgiven.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Look at what you did right, look at what you did.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Wrong, and then boom he takes away the ability to
feel negative things. So if he did suffer, if he did,
you know, it was a process. He's like, it was
a process, you know it was. He goes like this,
but like right now, he's like, I don't care, I
don't remember. I'm super good over here. My body, like
(20:40):
my soul, my body, everything works over here, and I'm
very happy. As soon as I close my eyes, I
went to heaven and I'm goody.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Okay, he's happy.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
He's been there.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, and he's been there and and like you know,
sometimes we think, you know, like he suffered. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's aferd But I'm fine, don't worry about it. It
doesn't matter anymore. Okay, Okay, So that's a good thing
to keep in mind. He's like, I'm not mad at anybody.
I forgave everybody. You know, everything is fine, because I
(21:15):
feel like he was very correct me if I'm wrong,
like a little bit harsh or a little bit hard,
like like strong.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Absolutely with everyone. But me.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh what a beautiful thing. Okay, Okay he was because
he's a stern mad.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He's like, I know I was like that, you know,
and I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Of course he's not saying sorry to you, but he's like,
whoever you can tell, because they gave you know, they
show him.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Look at what you did. You weren't supposed to be
like this, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And he's like, I'm so sorry I didn't notice, or
maybe if I noticed, I didn't know it was such
a big deal, or maybe I was like hurting something.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So he's like, I'm really really sorry for being like that.
If you can tell your mom or whoever you need
to tell, I'm.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Gonna go into a family group toe.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right after this, he's like, I was old school. Oh yeah,
I gotta tell him, tell him, tell him that, please.
And he's laughing about it because he's like, wow, I
can't believe how I was like that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And then something about always wearing the same clothes. Does
that make sense to you?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Honestly, I'm not one hundred percent sure, okay, because for
his job he had to wear basically the same clothes,
like he was always wearing like a suit and a
tie and stuff like that. Oh okay, okay, so cor
relate to that to me, I feel like that's really
that so much.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
But I feel like maybe to him him in that sense.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It was I feel like he's making fun of himself.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh, like like the same pants kind of thing, or
like the same shirt, like he would and he wouldn't care,
like I'm just good, maybe like on the weekends, or
like he only had one pant, like one pair of
pants and a T shirt something like that, where he's
like making fun of himself. I don't know if maybe
(23:16):
your mom can validate that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think I think for sure, Well, my grandma still
has all of his clothes and all of his all
of his suits and stuff, so okay, and there's not
that many actually, so maybe he did wear the same
ones over and over again.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And to be more specific, I see like he shows
me like these blue pants.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Kind of like maybe a jean, but very stretchy, not
a gean. It was like in between some jeans and
like a normal pant.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay, something about it being like stretchy and which is weird.
But he's showing me those pants and then a belt,
So tell maybe your grandmother maybe he I don't know, it's.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Just like a validation. Maybe it's no harm.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Did he hate them or no.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
He's making fun of himself like I always liked the
same thing to wear like I didn't care.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Okay, he was an after read.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yes, yes, yes, and he doesn't care and he's not sorry.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Okay, I'm gonna ask som that is so funny.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I ask your grandma. Maybe she
she kind of has more more context. Okay, you know,
maybe it was when they were young or something like that,
and he kept it for a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, more questions. You had more questions, let me.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Think, because I had another question. And then with what
you said, well that he said, okay, it kind of
answered the second question.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, Okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I guess does he think that I'm on the right
path because I feel like I dabbled between different things,
like different industries. All my jobs are very unrelated to
each other, but I like all of them, and I
always feel like every time that I move forward in
one of them, I feel like I'm doing something wrong
(25:13):
because I should be moving forward and the.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Other ones right, you're being unfaithful to the other exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And then I'm just kind of like, well, I can't
do it all, but I just don't know which one
to pick because I want to do them all.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
If that makes sense, So I don't know to what
does he think?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Okay, let me ask him really quick. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
He's like, Okay, if I were alive, I would have
said be a doctor and that's it, and that's what
you have to do. And then he said, but now
that I look at it from up here, he's like,
why do we have to live our life doing the
same thing every single day? And you know, just like
(25:56):
one career and that's what we're taught. And he's like,
I love that you go and you know, do this
and then do that and go back and forth. He's like,
who says you can't do that? Who says that it's wrong?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
He's like, it's totally not my character to say this,
but he's like, I just want you to be happy, Like,
take out of your head that how you're living life
right now is wrong, because there's time somehow everything will
come together as God wants it to be. Meanwhile, have fun,
(26:40):
grab experiences, grab stories, and learn how to do.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
A lot of things, and God will show you the way.
That's that's not a problem.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
But you don't have to decide or you don't have
to be a certain somebody at this moment right now,
and be the same person every single day, okay, you know,
and everything just you know, everything will fall into place.
I feel like, like you said, if you go this
path and then suddenly you miss the other ones, maybe
(27:12):
one day you're going to go down that path and
you won't miss the other ones and you'll be like,
oh okay, I like this, okay, and continue, but it
fits up bringing you back then, don't do it?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Okay, do this, do this, do that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
He's he's like so happy, like he's so hip now,
you know, he's so.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
He's so open minded, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So he's like he had a government job my whole life,
the whole time I was alive, he always had a
government job. So it was very buy the book, yeah,
follow the rules and everything. And he kind of wanted
that from everyone else in my family. But my mom
and all her siblings are all like musicians and artists
(27:57):
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Oh that, I'm sure he didn't like.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
That at all.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
He was also a musician and his father was an artist.
But to him, it was very much like at home,
we can be musicians and artists, but.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
We need to have another job. We need to do
something else that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, and so it makes.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
For him to now be like who cares, just do whatever.
I'm kind of like, that's awesome, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
If he says it, then yeah, you know, because he
was raised very exactly. Yeah, yeah, No, he's happy about it.
He's your fan and he loves what you do. And
I feel like he's there when you're playing, you know,
like yes, you know, like doing all these Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(28:49):
he's you know, he's happy for you.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's happy for you and.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Very in many ways as if I know you told
me this about his family, but he's like, I'm glad
that you're going to be the one that you know,
goes above and beyond and does what she what you want,
not what everybody else wants you to do.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
That's awesome, especially that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I always just feel so like scared to let
my family down or something like that. Right, But everything
that I do, I always do it because I want
to make them proud.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So exactly, the way you make your family proud is
by being happy. That's all we want mothers for kids,
we want them happy.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
So don't you worry. You're on the right path.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He enjoys it, and believe he's looking from up there,
so I think he knows a thing or two about what's.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Going to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Well. Also, as long as he's happy, I'm happy totally.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And when you're happy, then everything else, you know, falls
into place so awesome. So there's more success in liking
what you do. Then there isn't just doing it for
money or for what, which I knew. I know you don't,
but you know what that.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, absolutely, I do struggle with that too. That Like
everyone is always saying stuff like, oh, but how are
you going to make money doing that?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And I'm always like, I just want to make stuff
that makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's a conversation that I have very often about the
money and everything. It'll come, it'll come, yeah, you know
That's where I always say, money comes and goes, and
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And the more energy you put into being happy, it's
like everything else around you is, you know, like everything else,
like the energy you know, just like separates and starts
flowing all over the place. So you're gonna do well.
I see I see a really I see a future
(30:55):
for you where there's peace in your heart always, there's
love for what to do, and there will always be
a place for you to express and for you to play,
and for you to you know, use your art as
you wish.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
That's awesome. Thank you, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay, I'm going to say goodbye to Ektor with a
little pair. Thank you actor for being with us today,
and thank you for all your messages. I thank god,
my guys and my angels. Thank you so so much.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
MAV. I give you back all your energy and I
take mine back.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
But l.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Everything's perfect.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Amen LISTO Oh, it was so good meeting you. You're
such a You're such a beautiful soul.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, I appreciate that you believed in us, and thank
you for letting us record you.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Absolutely Yeah, thank you guys so much for the opportunity.
It was really fun.
Host
Paola Pedroza
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