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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Could it have been her funeral because that was the funniest,
weirdest funeral ever that I feel like my mom was like,
you need to write a movie about it.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to Goo's Therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with Desi's loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Today we have Maya Murillo. This reading
was amazing. She wanted to talk about her grandmother and
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just some little things like why her grandmother wasn't so
nice to her and to her mom.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
She really never knew the reason, and.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The grandma she told them everything and it was, oh
my gosh, like she was crying and it's just amazing,
like to get that out of the way, to know
why somebody was mean to you and then for them
to die and you not knowing.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And she gave her so many like tips on her
career and what she's doing right.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, she's doing everything right.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And it's just a lot of like generational things that
I think you would love to hear. It really breaks
generational traumas. Here, thank you for being here. Here is
Maya Morio.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Hi, Maya, how are you hi?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I'm good? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Nervous.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I'm a little nervous. I'm excited. I'm excited nervous.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm like, you know, I'm very spiritual person, so I'm like,
I'm ready and open.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's awesome, you know What's It's so cool that so
many people are now like I'm a spiritual person and
I'm doing my work on myself and I'm working. It's
so good to hear, you know, because we're all like
turning towards the light in a way.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, it's good for the collective, I feel.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Huh yeah, totally. Well, congratulations on that.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
All right, Miss Maya Murillo, could you tell me who you.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Want to talk to today?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I would love to talk to my grandmother on my
mom's side, my mom's mom.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Your mom's mom.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Okay, alrighty, okay, So I'm going to say a little
parent silence and just like connect.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It'll be just a little minute.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
If you want to think of her that way, she'll
come down easier.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But I'll be right back.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The first message I received, was there anything happening.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I don't know if it had to do with her
death or before.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
She's mentioning something about having to go back and she
didn't want to go back.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Do you know what that means? She doesn't. She wants
to make it clear that she.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Didn't want to kind of like she had to. And
I don't know why that's important for you to know
because I don't know if it's something about like maybe
some or maybe your mom or something that they thought
that she wanted to go back, something about leaving that
she didn't want to leave. And I'm not talking about
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her death. I think it was something else. It's something
about being too complicated for her. I feel like it
was a move did she have did she have to
move somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That was like against her what she wanted?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, But there was no like nobody wanted her to
move or something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Was there like pressure from yeah, from definitely my uncle
wanting her to move out to be in like a
place of like care.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You know, that's what it was. Okay, that's what it is, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Okay, ye, And she stayed in her house.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
She stayed okay, Okay, So maybe this message is for
your uncle, like you know, there's just something like don't
think she was.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Like she wasn't thankful or don't think that she wasn't.
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's just I feel like it was her way or
the highway kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So I guess like when they get up there, they're like,
oh my god, like how did I behave like that?
You know, but they don't know better on earth. We
don't know better on Earth.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So I think it's more like I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know, it's not that it's nothing personal, but it
was like I just, you know, I just didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
She's laughing, young girl.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, so that was a that's the first thing, so
please please tell your mom and your uncle.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Okay, she does mention like she.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I think maybe a little making fun of you guys
for something. I think it's something about like how you
like you guys made her laugh very much, and I
feel like towards the end, but she's making fun of
you as though, as like how you were taking things
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with her being sick, I guess or with her it's
just there's some there's something that was very funny about you,
you guys reaction towards her death or her sickness. I
don't know what it was. Does that make sense to you?
Like she feels like you were like running all over
the place or like going like.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's something about hold on.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Hold on, something about going like this like oh yeah,
like nobody knew what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Couldn't have been her funeral because.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It could be.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
That was a Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
The funniest, weirdest funeral ever that I feel like. My
mom was like, you need to write a movie about it,
and I'm like writing, I want to write.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It into some things.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It was definitely like hand on face like, oh my god,
shaking my head, this is what is going it's not real.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, yeah, she's laughing about it. So maybe this is
like a confirmation to do something with that, with what
your mom told you to write it out because she.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Is laughing and making fun of you. What happened? That
was so funny?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
What didn't happen?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Okay, got it?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean it just was like it was so supposed
to be in this beautiful church. The church was being renovated.
Then he was in the cafeteria. Then in the cafeteria
in like a children's school, you could hear like the
flush of the toilets like as they're like you know,
and then there was like this like unconventional priest that
showed up that was like so beautiful in their words.
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But if my grandma was alive, she would be like,
who is that? I don't want I don't want him,
like you know, and so get him out of here.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But he was perfect, he was so good.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And then like, uh, yeah, there's just some some stuff
between like the siblings, and and then one of her
cousins like passed out right in the middle of the
of the thing. And then my other grandma from my
other side of my family, from my dad's side, she
her and my my grandma like didn't really like get
along that well. But my grandma ended up showing up
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my daughter my nanny, and I go, girl, what are
you doing here?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Like what are you doing? You know, like she's she
would not.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Approve of him being.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm here for your mom. I'm here for your mom.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm like, okay, what you know is not true, like
she knows so so many things happened like yeah, so
I would I that's definitely a line for sure. That
like yeah, because we were running around and I was like,
this is my grandmother's funeral, and then my other grandmother
is here to be about this, feel like and then
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taking care of my mom, and yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It was just to make sure she was gone. Really
like you, there is so much crazy, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Like it's I'm like me, I'm thinking if she brought
this up, well, first of all to make fun of
it and to know that she was there obviously, but
also if you tell me that you should make something,
you should write something with that, I would definitely say yes. Yeah,
you know, because if she thinks it was funny, I
think that you've got to win.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's not even the half of it. That's just scratching,
barely scratching this like it just.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, don't tell me more, because then you're gonna spoil
the movie.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
We're all gonna go.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Right right, wow, Okay, Well, just know that she's making
fun of you as she should. Yes, as she should,
as you should, as you should. She's very strong, like,
she's very said in her ways.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think that that was Yes, yes, you have siblings.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I have an older brother, just one.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Okay, there's something that's a message for him and for you.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I see another person.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But maybe I'm crazy, but okay, this is a message.
She's like, you guys have to stay in your lanes.
She's like, and I think this like do your thing,
do what you like, what you want, and h she
goes like this first of all, like don't intercept each other.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And for you, she's like, stick to what you know
the best and don't think that you are.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Like rejecting maybe work or don't you think that you know?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah that makes sense by your face.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, I was nervous because I'm like, there's so much
that happened this week and this month.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm like, girl, what is she gonna say? What is
she gonna tell me?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You need her advice?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Then, yeah, and it's just something about like don't feel bad,
you know, don't feel bad about doing what you know.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It'll eventually add up.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It'll eventually, you know, be because what happens, what she
tells me, is like when you don't stay in your lane,
then you start like doing things kind of like half asked,
you know what I mean. And because because it's not
your thing or because whatever, because the energy doesn't flow
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the same way when you're passionate about something than when
you're doing something because okay, well I need the money,
or okay because of this or whatever it is, your
your whatever reason it is, it's just not for you
so that's very important. And it's also very important for
your brother. I don't know if you guys do the
same thing. But she's like, tell him also to stay
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in his lane. He is more powerful when he does
what he does.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I agree, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Great, okay, And just to add to your message, this
is kind of the same message, but it's not. It's like,
not because they want you means that you have to
want them, or not because they choose you means you
have to choose them. So if it doesn't make that
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much sense right now, it will.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, you know, Hollywood, Hollywood,
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And you're a good person and you're a good you know,
you're a good soul swimming between sharks.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Let's say that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh my gosh, oh yeah, I feel like a mermaid.
And I'm like like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Don't touch me, you, I'm super frad to you.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
But then I have like spikes, right.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
And then.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They come out of the spikes come out of your
head or something.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And that and that's great.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
She's like she's going like this, like I love that
about you, you know, like keep being strong, you know,
like keep your keep your demure, but being demure, but
you know, bring out the spikes because she's like, what
you do not very many people do it? Well, she
says a lot of people do it, yes, And she's like,
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you have to go into a room where you know,
it's like this thing like fake it till you make
it kind of thing, like, but you don't have to
fake it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know it is it is true. She's like, yeah,
she's very proud of you. She's like, this girl knows
what she's doing, right.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, I sure do.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, And she's like, well, you know what we taught her.
Even though she's a strong woman, she talks about we
taught her, so I'm thinking her and your mom or
your family.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
She's like, we taught her to not speak up, or
we taught her.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
To kind of be very politically correct or very you know.
And she's like, I know, we taught you that, but
this is another game and you go what.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You and do what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Okay, Yeah I didn't choose.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I'm so glad. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's like be who you are and if it's not happening,
then it didn't.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Have to happen. But you know, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Don't be afraid of fitting in or not fitting in,
or adapting to something and changing something to start, No,
to be liked or to for your things to be liked.
It's like, no, if they like it, if they don't,
there could be changes, yes, but not not in a
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way that's being criticized, or not in a way like
changing the whole thing just to it's like, move on
the next you'll be fine. Okay, Okay, whoa, I see
a big smile, So yeah, that's that.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So it's so on point. Yeah, it's it's wild.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Awesome, awesome. You needed this, you needed you needed some reassurance,
you know. I think that goes for everybody. Like it's like,
am I doing this right? Am I doing this wrong?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Am I?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You know?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Am I too dramatic? Am I too sensitive? Am I
like making a big deal out of this?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Like yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, but no, if that's
what you feel, that's what.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You feel, right, Yeah, let me see what else? Okay,
I think this has to be.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
This has to do with your living situation, something about
if you don't I don't know, if you don't want
to be there or if like nobody has to be
there if they don't want.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
To does that make sense to you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, I've been really questioning moving out of my
apartment I live alone.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, that's just something I've been questioning.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's about don't force anything, like why, like what are
your real reasons? You see what I'm saying, Like, if
it's something that you don't want anymore, go for it.
What I've learned is that energy moving energy always creates
new energy and better energy.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And when the energy gets.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Stuck in the same room, in the same place, in
the same so fine, the same chair, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Mm hmm, you know that right.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So yeah, she's saying, like it's stagnant here.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And it could mess with your work.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Oh yeah, I work from home. Yeah, I work from home.
Oh you work from home?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Okay, Okay, that sounds okay, So that sounds about right. Yeah,
if you do feel it, go for it. It's a
it's a new adventure. I feel like it almost gives
you like energy flow of things you could you know,
ride about or talk about. You know, yes, yeah, okay,
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so it's a new adventure, so go for it.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And she's like, don't go crazy.
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Tomorrow, but you know, do it, do it when you're ready,
will exactly because that's.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
What you want to do.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, for sure, Like okay, for sure. But yeah, I've
been I was just looking yesterday at like place. I've
been looking like periodically, and it's you know, over the
past couple of years, and that it aligns because I
have felt stagnant in my work in my home because
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I started, you know, working from home since like twenty
twenty twenty obviously you know, so.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Like everybody, yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So it's that's yeah, very ai. Yeah, and I'm like,
thanks for the confirmation girl.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Things awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I know you mentioned that you work by yourself, but
I see a man working with you, which she encourages,
and it's something about not that he doesn't do it
the exact same thing as well as you do, but
something about him being.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
That little thing that you don't do quite that well, that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
He's he's strong in that area and it could be
something really good for you.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean I feel like cuttinas On here too, So
I feel like that's Curly right, Like Curly is my
best friend, right, work together at BuzzFeed, right, and we
have a podcast together called The Super Secret Bestie Club
podcast and we are working on a project together that's
it's kind of behind the scenes, and that's kind of
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the narrative a little bit where it's kind of like,
you know, there's I feel like I'm not good at
writing and he's really good at writing, and.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I'm more visual and he's very visual.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
But like just the way he like writes is just
like I'm dyslexic and I feel like I have like,
you know, reading comprehension, like you know, just just issues
and stuff. So I wonder if that's about him, because
that's like the closest. Yeah, that's that's the only person
that I feel like around that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds like him one hundred percent, especially
what you just mentioned, like you're dyslexic, Like that's not
your strong point.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It doesn't mean you don't do it well.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It just means that if there's someone there that could
make you stronger and it could be a team. The
thing is that it's more about the messages, more about
don't be afraid of of collaborating in it, like in
different ways, because maybe your idea is not going to
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turn out exactly how you imagined. Because now there's somebody
gonna be that's going to be, you know, having another
opinion or something.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
But she's like, don't be afraid of it. If it
doesn't work out, it doesn't work out, it's fine, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But it is more it is about getting together and
making each other stronger. And I think that I think
that really makes sense because I don't know if you've
done this before or this is this would be a
new thing, but I feel like it's a new thing.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's a new era.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's a new step that really really is going to
make a difference in your careers. And it's going to
make a difference in just like maybe changing your mind
a lot about collaboration. You know, I know, I know
you do collaborations. He's your co host and everything, but
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this is like another another story. It's gonna teach you
a lot, and just be open to be teached, be
open to be to double down maybe on stuff you know,
and know that it's gonna be okay anyway, Okay, you're
gaining more than what you're losing.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Okay, yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes, Yeah, awesome, awesome, Okay, great, awesome, go for it.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Curly is awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I love how your grandma is like work work, work, work,
work work.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
This is like she she's like trying to give you
all these tips that puts you, you.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Know, on on the track, on the right track on. Yeah. Yeah,
but you're doing fine.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You see what I'm saying, Like this is this is
her taking you to the next level, because there's always
an level.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
So this is her doing that.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So don't don't think it's like you're doing things wrong,
you know, No, it's about you're doing everything right.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Let's do some more. Okay, okay, Your grandma is like,
hear me out. She's like, this is your time to shine.
You're doing very well. You're going up up up. I
feel like we need to put love at a on
us on the side a little bit. Does that make
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sense to you?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I feel like love right now wouldn't even work.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Why because your head is somewhere else, Like there's no head,
Like you wouldn't even know how to love somebody right
now because you are so full of ideas.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
You're so full of like every like the train is,
you know, moving.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So don't don't do a disservice to a poor guy
or vulger, you know, like, don't do that She's like,
it'll come when it'll come, and don't force anything, don't
feel like you need to where you want to or
is anything like that.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's like, no, you don't need it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's like you don't, you don't, You're not gonna benefit
from it at all, So let's put that off, you
know for a little while.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yes, Yeah, I've been feeling that for sure too. It
just nothing, no one's revealing themselves to me right now,
Like there's no one you know, in my ether and
if there was, like it's just so short lived or
I just like, yeah, that's that's exactly the vibe where
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I've been feeling that where I'm like because you know,
it's even though I'm single, it's one of those things
where you can ruminate on it and you can create
like a lot of like when is it going to happen?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Or is it this person? Is it that person? You know?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And I feel like I've been doing a lot of
that that has been taking up a lot of space.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah so that yeah, yeah, yeah, and nothing happens anyway.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's like because it's not.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Nothing happens and yeah, and then I feel like I
just have a weird attitude towards.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It like a little jaded, you know, and I think, okay, yeah,
And I think it's maybe because I am in a
different place in my life where I feel like I
want to go to the next level, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah yeah, and also because you're so successful, not everybody
can kind of fit into that life, you see what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
So the kind of guys that we used to like
don't really you know.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I know, And I feel like the universe is like
whenever I'm like a little bit interested in those guys,
they do something to just like make me hard off. Yeah,
give me the ag and I'm like, oh, okay, production,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, thank you very much. It was fun while it
lasted one day. Yeah, I totally get that. And also
remember that when you're so you're doing your project, you're
liking who you are, you're liking how life is going,
that's when the right one appears because he's on your
same frequency. Yes, right, So what from what I'm looking at,
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I don't want to sound like a psychologist or anything,
but from what I'm looking at is that.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You're you're, you're, You've got it going on.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's just the whole scheduling and the whole eating. Like
that's the little little thing that's missing that you have
to kind of correct. And I feel that if you
correct that, then you're more in control. You your frequency rises,
and that's where you'll meet up there, It's where you'll
meet them, you know. But down here it's still like
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there's no there's no room for it, you know. So yeah,
the way you when you when we correct things that
are wrong, like very like personal things like you said,
what we were talking about, and then when suddenly, you know, uncernally,
work starts getting better, more opportunity.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
It's just that little thing.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That bugs you the most or that makes you unhappy
the most. When you attack that, everything else falls into place.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You know, yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
So I think you're doing well everywhere else, and so
just correct that and everything will come. And the important
thing here of the message you're receiving is that since
it's going to take time, or since you're already going
to be on that journey, nothing can kind of like
because if you're on your journey of the eating and
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of the schedule and all that stuff, and then you
meet somebody, your schedule is thrown off, your emotions are
thrown off and then book you're back to square one.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So no healing.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Then you have this person in front of you that's
dealing with an unhealed person, you know. Yeah, so I
feel like if you do this healing, everything else will
come and there's no rush like you said, like she
said before, no rush.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, I guess that's I feel that. Can I also
ask a question too.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Of course, please my guess.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
So, I mean I didn't have like the best relationship
with her. I mean maybe as a kid, she influenced
so much of my musical theater like background, and you know,
she if I did not grow up going to her
house and helping her clean and then get rewarded by
watching musicals like that, would you know like that in
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that time with her and her educating me, that was
so important. I just have always been like thankful for
her to that. But she was really really, uh a
little toxic to my mom, you know, and they had
just not a great relationship at all throughout their entire life.
(27:52):
Like so that's something to me that I feel a
little bit guilty that I am so loyal to my
mom and you know, in times when my grandma was
not nice to my mom, I would kind of correct her,
and I felt like I needed to do that, and
I have no regrets for that, but I just kind
of have a question of like why, like why why?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I just feel like I.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Don't really know her that well and she, I know
she went through like this, she was depressed or something.
I just have all these like questions of like.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Right, why she was so toxic and especially to your mom? Yes, yeah, okay, Okay,
let's ask her. It's a great question. I mean, that's
incredible if we get this question and.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
We get this answered.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, I know, I know, revealing.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Let's check out.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Okay, this is very interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
As I tell you all of this, I just wanted
to know that during her time on Earth, she obviously
did not know she was doing this, right, She obviously
did not mean it. She obviously, but she's explaining now
as a perfect person what she was doing wrong. No excuses,
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no justifications, just this is what was happening. Okay, please
correct me if you feel like something isn't on point. Okay, Okay, Okay.
She's talking about a very narcissistic personality. And when you
say narcissistic, like she says, I always and let me
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tell you something every this is what she made me right,
but always referring to her as Kathy, just letting you
know that she's referring to her as Kathy. So I
feel like this is a validation, like I'm sorry, I
never okay.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
She's like I always made Kathy feel she wasn't good enough.
She says, I alway wanted her to be I always
wanted to be right, and Kathy would never let me
and that was like a that was a big thing
for her. And then she's like she would Kathy would
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outshine me with her personality, she says, And yeah, that's
not right. She's like she was very unfair and always
wanted people to be with her or against her, Like
there was no middle ground always, so it's like either
you agree with me and you do what I do,
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or you're like on my side or you're my enemy,
you know. And she says that was very wrong, and
she feels that always Kathy, since she would not always
go along with her, then she was her enemy period,
Like there's no like it was very black and white
with her. But most of all she's obviously she's very
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sorry about that. And in terms of you she said, listen,
you always did the right thing, and you always did
what you had to do with what you had, and
you had a grandmother that was making your mother cry.
She's like, you did the right thing always. Don't feel
like you disrespected me. Don't feel like you were a
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mean person to me. She's like, hey, I deserve that.
I deserved what you would do. What you would answer
kind of like your words, She's like, I deserve that
and I know it, so please forgive me for acting
that way, for being that way.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I did not know I was.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
This, And there's like, there's no hard feelings towards you
most of all because you did the right thing, you
did what you had to do. And then towards Kathy,
she's like, she was who she is, who she is.
She shines so bright and not a lot of people
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can take it, including her. But that was very stupid
of me too. I was the mother. I should have
known better, but I always had to be the center
of attention or else I was mad.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you said narcissist.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's exactly how we would, unfortunately describe her, which is
not something at all you would want to just you know,
to say upon your elder or you're the matriarch, but
you know it was Yeah, it was definitely that vibe
where it was you.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Know, this is her accepting, This is her being you know,
humble about what she did and asking for forgiveness. So
if you can show this to your mom, please do.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be super healing.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Just the thing of like her dressing her as cat
these like gonna I mean that immediately made me cry
because that was her human self, like at the time,
her whole life was like Mary Catherine, Mary Catherine, and
my mom's like, you know, it just it is a box.
It's a box that she tried to fit my mom in.
And my mom my grandma was a capricorie. My mom's sagittarius,
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so like okay, okay, and I'm an aries, you know.
So it's like I feel like I'm I'm like a
warrior in the sense of like let my mom be.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, I feel like that's how I show up. And
that's just where I feel the most clarity and clear,
where I'm like, don't mess with my.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Mom, you know, yeah, you know, and even my own.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Grandmother, like, you know, it's just it and I do
regret this time when I like had told her, not
told her off, But I was just kind of like,
I can't accept the way that you like to watch
your mom cry throughout your entire childhood every single time
you go to a family function because your grandma says
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something so mean? Mean girls, how are you supposed to be?
And other people in my family don't like me because
of the way that I, you know, treated because they
got a different side of my grandma.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
You know, are they normalized it?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Maybe they normalized it.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
And you know, same thing with like being the you know,
a daughter like in in you have your rank, and
my ranking was not to say anything, you know, and
that's I'm a disruptor.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I can't not I will live.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
My skin will literally burst if I don't say what
I say.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
We're a woke generation and we are not here to
continue with the same patterns.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
We are here to break them. We are here to
you know, heal.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
So that was you, believe me, that was you healing
your your your patterns. Like whatever your family brought onto you,
you're healing it.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
So that warrior that.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You are keep on being it, keep on being it,
because that's the only way other in the like if
it were another situation like you said, you were like
by ranking you just put your head down, you know,
good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
She's proud of you for that. She's proud of you
for that.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I know that maybe on earth it wasn't that kind
of she maybe didn't demonstrate that much love or whatever,
you know, or but believe me, now now she's up there,
she's so perfect. She loves you so much, she loves
your mother so much, and all the fog is gone
and all the love is.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
That's all that's left.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So know that she's with you, she's accompanying you, and
she is your biggest fan. So whatever it is, I
hope you can forgive in a way and know that
it wasn't that. Now her true self, her true soul
is so beautiful, you know. And now it's like maybe
you can begin a new relationship with her now that
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she's up there, Now that she's a.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Good soul and she's you know, doing she's doing that.
She did the work.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So just know that it wasn't in bad like, it
wasn't an ill intent, you know, it was just that's
what those are the cards that she were.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Dealt, that she was dealt. So yeah, yeah I understand. Yeah, yeah,
I hope your mom. Hope your mom feels better about that.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Okay, so we have come to the end. I'm going
to do just a little prayer for Norma.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Give her back to the light and to God that
she will be better that she that she will always
be with you and your family, and we thank her
for being here today.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Ma.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, I give you back your energy and taken mine
back those perfect Okay, Maya, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Did you enjoy it? Yes?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh my gosh. I want to call my mom like
right after and be like.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Most importantly, the last message I was the one that
she needs to hear.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
So bye bye