May 13, 2025 • 43 mins
Vanessa Villela is a Mexican actress known for her work in telenovelas and her appearance in the reality show Selling Sunset.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, it is true, that's crazy? Not that okay? So
not that's not wasn't what?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Great?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is crazy?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
So which one is talking? Then?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hi, guys, Welcome to ghost therapy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm Paula pa Thank you so much for being here.
Oh my god, I can't believe so many episodes and
we're still here having so much fun. This time around
is probably one of the most special ones that I've
had because it's with one of my best friends and
I admire her so much. She's an actress, she's a singer,
(00:50):
and we've been through it all highs and lows cities.
It's just been crazy and she's such a good friend
of mine. And we're going to talk to her sister
and to her grandmother, which I knew nothing about them
because her sister always lived far away. So that's why
(01:10):
I decided to do it, because I know that there
was a part that I didn't know of that was
like virgin territory that I could bring about, and oh
my god, it was just so satisfying because her husband
was there. I didn't know he was there, and he's
a big skeptic and I was able to turn him
(01:31):
around with what I said, and that makes me so proud. Okay,
so I'm not going to say anymore. Let's go into
ghost therapy with Vanessa Villela. Miss Vanessa Villela, thank you
(01:58):
so much for.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Being Oh my god, you have an honor to be
here with you. I know your full journey, so I'm
so happy and I'm thankful that you're having me here
and your in your beautiful podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And oh yeah, I'm just excited. I have goose Mom's.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Everything because I know how powerful you are, so I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Oh and that is true.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You have been with me through my whole journey when
I didn't want it, when I wanted it, and everything else,
and you were always very supportive. So thank you. It's
such an honor to have you here. One of my
best friends. But I don't know. I didn't I didn't
know your grandmother, and I didn't know your sister because
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she lived far away and this and that, so we
never really got the opportunity. So that's why she's on
here because I don't know that part and here it
goes therapy. It's very important for me to not know
very much about the guests, so I can.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I know everything about her, but.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
About what we're gonna do, it's different, so everything that
comes out will be new for both of us.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, And I've always just for the audience to know,
I've always been very not necessarily private. But obviously I'm
from Mexico City. I was born and raised there. My
acting career started in Mexico City, and then I moved
to Miami to do some TV shows and of operas,
and my sister lived in San Diego, so we would
see each other like maybe once a year. And that's why,
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you know about even though we were very close in Miami,
didn't get the chance to, you know, to ever meet
her in person.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So yeah, just your brother, but not your sister. Yeah,
but I'm gonna meet her right now. Yeah, I'm gonna
meet her right now, which is awesome, Okay, perfect, all right,
I'm going to see a little prayer.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The first thing that she tells me is that she
thinks it's very very funny because somehow she always felt
she was a step behind you and you always felt
that you were a step behind her.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Does this make sense for you?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's like we both felt like that, but it wasn't
true we were the same.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yes, I mean, yeah, yeah, it makes total sense. I think,
you know, I think she felt like that, possibly because
of my.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Career and that I had more like an independent life.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
But I always, you know, I always was like the
little sister and right, yeah, I will look up.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
To her, right, yes, right, And for her, she's like,
I always felt less, and now that I'm up here,
she's like, I understood that you know, you both had different,
you know, different paths to live, and that she wouldn't
have able to live you know, your life or get
your fame, and you know, and she's like, and that's okay,
(05:06):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But she used to have like this, like you know,
like this little thing.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But she wants you to know that she it was
never ill, it was meant, it was never meant to
be a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It was just like that's how it felt.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
She's not trying to justify herself, but she's like, those
were my feelings and I can't say why, but those
were my feelings.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So it's kind of like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Sorry, you know, I'm sorry that I was kind of
like envying you sometimes. But it wasn't like a bad thing,
you know. It was because I wanted to do things too.
But now I understand why it wasn't like that, why
we went separate paths.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Wow, that's crazy, and it is. It does mean. It
makes sense a lot, and it.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Does mean a lot because I do feel since we
were little, that you know, that was something that there
was like I never want her to feel lessnan never,
and I think that even in my present life sometimes
I think possibly in my subconscious that stops me from.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
From shining, if that makes sense, because.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I probably absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
If you know right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
This is so funny because I that was kind of
the next thing I was going to tell you, so
thank you for bringing me into this.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
She's like, I want her to shine without feeling guilty.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Because that's why. I think that's why she started this conversation,
because she knows how you feel. And she's like, no, no, no,
I understand that this was my path. I wanted to shine.
I want you to be you know, I'm so happy
over here. She's like, I'm so I'm thriving over here
and there's nothing but good emotions towards you. So please
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never ever feel like, oh, she could have done this
with me, or I could have helped her, or I could.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Have no no, no, no. We each had a path.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
God wanted it that way, and she's very happy about it,
and she's very proud of you, very She's like, even
though I was like far away and even though I
wanted kind of that life and everything, she's like, it
never stopped me from being proud of you. It never
stopped me from looking up to you, you know, and
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you were the little sister. That's fine, but she looked
up to you, you know, and she's she's just so proud,
and also I want to she wants to congratulate you.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
On the wedding. She's like I was there, and.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
She talks about your husband as being like a combination
of good old fashioned man like with those good old
fashioned ways of thinking and the you know, like a
modern man. She's like, you have this great combination in
him than not many men have, and that she's so
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happy that you found him, and that she's like whatever
struggle there there could be, and I don't think it's
like an emotional struggle. It's more of like putting your
life together to be together.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's like it's all worth it. It's all worth it
because since you're so independent, I feel like he lets
you be independent.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And he's a Yeah, he's a you know, the not
the common denominator obviously of a man, and I think
that's why I fall in love with him so deeply.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He's me.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Without the books.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
We're believing a same eyes well, old school style, which
is why I always wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
To do exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Those are very like you know, he's not like Machi
style or anything. He just lets me do my thing
and he lives in me and he empowers me.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So right, perfect, that's what she loves about him. That's
exactly what she loves about him.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And it's crazy because you don't know him either.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't know him exactly. I don't know him, but
that sounds like you. So wow, I'm so glad you
have so such pretty words for him.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah. Yeah, she's very happy about that.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Like you said, not every man is like that and
is a common denominator, but she's so happy about that.
She wants to to say really quickly she's like, I'm
so glad you didn't have a child, and she smiles
(09:55):
because she's like, you were meant to have fun, you
were like for you, everything started later than the usual,
you know, and your life like everything started late for you.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And she's like, you need to live more. You need to.
You wouldn't have been able to have the wonderful life
that you have if you have had a baby. And
even though it's like maybe.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
A sensitive subject, maybe not for you, but she smiles
because she knows that, like she knows how your life
could have been, and she knows the life that you
have now, and she's like, I choose the life you
have now by far, you know, and she's very happy
(10:41):
about that. And just so just so you know, you
know that from upstairs it looks differently than it looks downside.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, sometimes I think about that, and sometimes I think like, oh,
you know, it would be awesome to a some point
have a baby, but if if it hasn't happened, god
knows what. And I've always you know, because I am
come from a you know, parents are were not together
by lee to have a baby.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So you know, yeah, life just happened, and.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, exactly, it happened now it's supposed to happen and
maybe in the future.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But either or it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You see, it's oh no yeah at our age. No no, no,
it's hard. What was your grandma's name?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I think she's here, Madia, Oh I have to but
I think the one.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I think that that PA's recently.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
When did she pass?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like two years ago?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Okay, okay, okay. I think I feel like a like
a very grandma vibe. Let me see if it's her.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
She's laughing and she's saying, you had a good grandmother
and like a bad grandmother.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Does that make sense? Like on one side?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Why wait wait, I had one good grandmother and the
other one not so much.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Uh huh, wow, this is true.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Not that okay, so not that it's not wasn't what?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Great?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is crazy?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So which one is talking? Then?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I think that it's the good one because she wants
you to like you are the bad one, but I'm
the good one, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like the comparison.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yes, it's freaking crazy because not a lot of people
know this.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And of course I love both of.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
My grandma's and I think that my mom my father's grandmother. Sorry,
that was like the most loving, dedicated grandma, like crazy,
I will, you know, her and my grandpa were my
life besides my parents.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And then my my grandma.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
From my mom's side, she was a little bit more
very loving, but.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It was a little bit more like in her own thing,
I think. And also yeah, I think she was a little.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Colder, not though she was she like not that like
not loving and you know, giving, not heartwarming until she
became older older older, So but we were not living
in the same place, so we never.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Too late at that like.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That boy, yes.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Exactly, but I was.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
That's crazy, okay, Okay, so yeah, I think it's it's
it's like she's laughing.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
She's like, I'm the good.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Witch, you know, like like wicked, you know, I'm the
good with.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
She what she what Navia is saying is that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
No, but then who's speaking is is Celito.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah that's a good way to because she's the one
that was very loving. That was very loving, Okay, she's
like she she describes herself as being and this is
like a message for you. She describes herself as being
(14:21):
like very I don't know, like crazy or very like
I think, like a little bit more open minded than
other grandmothers something about that. Anyway, the thing is that
she's she's like I was very loose, Like I was
very I didn't care what people thought of me. And
I was like, oh, if you want it, if you don't,
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I don't care. And she's like, I want her to
be more like that. She's like I want Uh. She's like,
you have such a beautiful soul that sometimes you fear
that people are not gonna like you, or that it
like inside of yourself, like very I feel this is
(15:03):
subconsciously and not something you really know or you really
kind of are aware of. But she's like, she's such
a beautiful soul, and sometimes she's worried about what other
people say, or how to look a certain way, or
like just how she presents herself. And she's like, I
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really want you, like as something that you have to
learn in life is to like let go of.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
That and be She's like one day she's like she's
so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
She's like she'll never be ugly, you know, but one
day no makeup and one day you know it a
burgher and one day and it's gonna be fine. She's like,
I want her to live true to her, to her
beautiful self, and not always think that she's not enough
and that you need to be prettier, or you need
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to be this, or you need to be more famous.
She's like, no, it's all about now now, at this age,
it's now about being yourself and being comfortable with yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So this is like for your future, you know. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And she's so proud of you too, like she's very
she's very happy to be here.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
And they're both here, like your sister and her, they're
both here.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
But Cellito, what was Celllito Jacqueline's grandma too? Yes, yes, okay, okay, okay,
this is from your sister. She says, I want you
to know that life didn't take you where you wanted
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precisely to go, but it took you to where you
had to go.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Because if you had had.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Your way and what you wanted to do, maybe in
la you wouldn't have experimented what it was to have
a good man beside you. You would have experimented what
it was to have a home, to have all these
beautiful things that you wouldn't have stopped to even give
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it a chance because you were so focused on the career.
So she's like, God in a way kind of forced
you into something that you maybe didn't want to, but
he gave you what you really needed and you did
not know.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Does this make sense for you?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I did so, because when she passed away, my life
took another direction.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I know, she's saying she had to take on something
that wasn't what she wanted to take on.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Does that make sense.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, So I've.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Tried to honor her life since she died, and.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Because of that, I tried to do something with our business.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
And then it didn't work, and I ended up doing
what she wanted me to do, which was real estate,
and that obviously directed me in another complete other direction
from my acting.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Career and my dream of being here in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, but then it puts you back into it because
you were on selling sides that it was TV with
the realtors, so it was kind of yeah, and you know,
we can do we can we can have all everything,
just in a different way that you planned, you know.
And she she's like when she's when you're saying this,
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she's like, I really never wanted you to be real estate,
she said. I wanted you to be because I wanted
you to be, like to have a normal life. And
she's like, now I know that you were never looking
for a normal life. You are non normal. You have
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this gift, you have this gift of acting, you have
the gift of singing. And I never understood that, she says.
And whatever I said when I was alive, forget it
because I understand you now. I understand what you want.
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I understand your mind, and I understand your goals and
your dreams. I didn't understand them before. So I kind
of like pushed you or gave you those words, and
you took them on. Like, if she dies, I have
to do what she says. She's like, I'm sorry if
I made you feel that way.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
It wasn't my intention, right, I mean, I guess that
just just you know, it wasn't necessarily because she told me,
I thought it was like the right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Thing to do.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I mean, she told me, and then I felt like
I sat one day in my car crying and I
asked for a sign. And that's you know, when she
pretty much spoke to me through someone else. But I
was a stranger, so I took obviously, I definitely know
that it was in my destiny to do it, and
that's why I was living in selling sense.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It was such a you know, even though I'm not
I'm not there anymore, it was definitely something I needed
to experience. And I know that without all of this happening,
you never know.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So that's also another way of me and you know,
even for your audience to trust that everything unfolds in
the right way, because you know, I wanted to do
the crossover and I never imagined that I would have
been through selling senset, which, even though not as an actress,
it be recognition in this in this kind of sort
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of and I got the opportunity of people to get
to know me as a person instead of the villain
of Or you were.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Always you were always the villain. I loved you on
that show because you were so authentic. You're like, I
speak this kind of English and that's me, and I'm
you know, I'm I'm proud of myself.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
And I have been through your journey too.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Of this girl, I mean went to La and she's like,
I'm going to speak the best English. I'm going to
be the best, and she did, like not many people
at this age can really accomplish that. And I don't
know how. I don't know like how it happened, but
you actually, like your English is so good, and you
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know it's it.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Was a game changer for you. And she's like, imagine
you in Miami right now, what the hell would you
be doing?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You know what I mean. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
God took you away when he had to take you away,
and you know, put you where you're supposed to be,
you know, and I thank God because you wouldn't have
lived all that. But most of all, she's so happy
that you met your husband, you know, and like in
an old fashioned way, like that's what she wanted for you.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You know, she wanted you to get married.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And you were always so focused on your career, and
you know, you didn't always have the best boyfriends.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
One in specific, I won't say names.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
H crazy, I am very blessed.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I'm very happy where I am.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, And and she also says where you're at right
now is none necessarily where you're gonna stay.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
So there's no like, Okay, well.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm married, I'm not gonna do the Hollywood thing because
now I'm married it's like, no, no, no, you can
do anything. You can still go on. Don't lose the momentum,
you know, don't lose it. You can still do real
estate and you can still do your career. She's like,
don't try to pick. Okay, I'm gonna choose real estate.
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She's like, no, choose all three of them. Choose everything
you can choose. Do it because I feel like you've
correct me if I'm wrong. She makes me feel that
you've lost a little spark, the little spark of that
girl that dreamed of.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So much when she got to.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
La and not in a bad way, but in a like,
you know, like you matured. But she's like, go back
to being that thirteen year old that was about to be,
you know, on her first soap opera and was very happy.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Go back to those feelings.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Those are the ones that are gonna make you want
to to what you love, Like, don't give up on that.
Are you giving up or are you trying to give up?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Okay, so that's phrasy that you just mentioned the feeling
of my first SLP opera. Okay, two days ago, I
was sitting in the car with my husband. If it
wasn't yesterday. I don't know, and he asked me it
was yesterday. If there was a memory of your childhood
that or something like that that you can remember and
(24:40):
will make you smile, which one would be? And I
said exactly that the first day that I went into
a set.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Of my first slap opera.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
That's crazy, that's crazy. And that happened, yes.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Happened yesterday when we were charging car because we have
an electric car.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Sometimes they were like, oh, should.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
We organize the car? Should we talk?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I'm like, let's talk and then we do child question, right,
And that was.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
One of them. That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Wow, I feel like I gave up my dream for
a while, and I'm actually.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Realizing the you know, real.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You know, la claro treves perque no necessary? Right, look
at me doing a podcast? What the hell I would
have never imagined, you know. And uh, it's reinventing and
more about not having. It's like going away from your
(25:46):
original dream and then being like, Okay, now I'm this
married woman, I live here, I have the electrical car.
All this is is a new version of you, you know,
and now this new version is out to go get
her drinks, you know, and why not? I see there
(26:06):
is no freaking reason for you not to do it,
especially you with all your experience, with your beautiful face
and body and.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Your ass, and asked, yeah, she has that I have
ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yes, So I see that smile and I know what
that smile is about, and it's about like, yeah, I
want to go back, So.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Go back, go back.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And we're so used to knows in our lives, We're
so used to rejection that you already know the drill.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yes, now you're you're a married woman.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You're so mature, it's not going to affect you like
it affected you fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Right, And I think I'm all doing things differently. I'm
getting prepared for what that opportunity comes because I say
always that, you know, I had opportunities in the past
where I wasn't ready, Like you know, English was a
very career for me, especially with my dream, so I
wasn't ready. And that's why I don't like even my
(27:13):
husband sometimes like let's practicianage, and I'm like, no, no, no,
I need to learn.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I need to speak the language. I need to be
fluent in English. I need to be able to do it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
And now you know, I rejoined like.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Acting with a workshop. And I feel it that I
can feel the.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Difference already with my auditions because I feel, yes, I
feel I don't start or you know.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, because you're right now that you have it down,
you worry more about doing a good audition than having
a good accent or actually like talking in English, you
do it. So yeah, that's exactly. So this new you
is going to get very far because this new you
(28:03):
has new dreams or new perspective on dreams. The thing
is that we change so much. We have changed, you know,
so much in so many things, you know, and and
we can't think that what we used to what we
used to dream, or what we used to want, we
can't think that we want that anymore. Sometimes, you know,
(28:27):
it's like, yeah, I've always wanted I always wanted to
be a singer. Nothing went right when I was a singer.
And now I'm like, okay, but at least I tried.
And I'm not mad at the world because I'm not
a singer. But I used to be very mad at
the world because I wasn't a singer. But I got old,
I matured, and now it's not that it's not my
dream and if it happens, hell yeah. But if it doesn't,
(28:49):
I'm okay with it. And I'm so glad that day
came because or else I would be very frustrated.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And I think when when.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
You are addition, or when you do things from frustration
or from like I want it, nothing happens. But when
you do it as an accomplished woman, married and this
and that, the energy is so different that you're going
to get more parts because you're.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Like, if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't,
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yes, I guess so yeah. And I also I've learned
to trust on the timing of things. And everything happens
for a reason, and wondersn't know.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's because the.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Dream that you think this is going to take you
to your dream, but am I actually take you away
from your dream?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So you have to let the universe and God guide.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Your you know, if you believe in God, if you
leave in the universe.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Book guide your steps, and then just believe.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
As long as you believe, I think, and you keep
doing the work, I know it happens rights and it.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Happens with my career.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think that's absolutely absolutely, And we We never thought
like that before. When we were younger, you know, we
were so like focused and we just wanted it and
wanted it and yeah we got it and everything. But
you know, now comes the second part, the third part
of your life.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So your your your husband.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
He's a photographer, right, yes, is one of the things
that he does.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Okay. The message, and this comes from Chilito for your husband.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
He's like, you know, when you're in you're focus on
so many things, nothing really happens, you know, like sturdily.
She's like, tell him to pick three things or two
things and go for it full throttle instead of like
(30:58):
you know, like putting his hands into everything, which which
is okay because he does it well. That's not the problem.
The problem is not that he doesn't do things well.
The problem is that the energy goes into so many
things that it's like little little, little, little little instead
of like full energy onto one thing and then comes
(31:20):
the next, and then comes the next, and before he
knows it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
You know, he's doing everything he wants, but in a
strong way. Is he there with you? Is he there?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Oh my God, come on into comera, come here.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
We need to need each other. What is your problem? No,
he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Want to you will come. Yeah, he's just he's not getting.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Continue. Continue.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
But I love because your eyes were like going like that,
and I'm like, what the hell are you? Yeah, come
on overster Hardy.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Okay, Hi, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's so so nice to meet you.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
And I've been listening to you from a distance and
you know, I'm I'm very skeptical.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Is that is the right word?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
You know, no problem, you've met people like me before.
I think what you just said just tend me upside down.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It resonated.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, look, you.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Know I'm in a foreign country and I'm here for Vanessa,
you know, and it's it's very difficult here.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
God you know of course, yes.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Yes, I have my hands very very full. So yeah, continue, let.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Me see, let me see what else your sister in love?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You know, Like, I'm so happy you said that to
me because that that brings me so much joy to
turn up spectacle skeptical around.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Thank you very much, deserve.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It, I think, thank you.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Yeah, there's there's you know, people know me for what
I do in England, but no one knows the pressure
I have here and all the things that I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
So yeah, well done.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Of course, it's it's double the work to prove yourself
when where nobody knows you. Yeah, oh this is beautiful. Okay,
this is from Jackie. She's like the reason God puts
you guys together.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
You were both.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Leave stuck in your I was I used to be this.
I was an actress. I was I don't know whatever
you were in England. I was a singer, I was
this and that, and then come together because guess what,
there's a new life, there's a new chapter and you
(34:25):
both understand what that's like together. You see what I'm saying.
And that's kind of why God, she has explained to me,
because you and specifically needed to get out of your
comfort zone and needed to understand that you were so
much more, that you are so much more than what
(34:49):
you were in England, or you were in England or
where were you in England than what you were in England.
No matter how successful, that doesn't that's not even a
the issue. It's not about successful. It's about you proving
to yourself and you growing evolution, like evolution in your
(35:10):
soul to actually even if it's hard. It's kind of
like when they say they're growing pains. You know that
it's hard for you. You miss it over there. You
had your thing over there. Okay, now build your shit
now here, you know, because you are able to.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
But the thing is that.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I feel like you guys together give yourself that space too,
because sometimes it's about grief. It's about the grief of
letting go your last life, your England life, your Mexico
or Miami life. And then you know, it's very hard
(35:55):
and it's like you're grieving something. It's like a death,
the death of my life over there and the death. Yes,
but now you guys are like like you're born together
as new people that are out there to make it happen.
And only you guys understand each other because that's not
(36:16):
easy to understand.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
So God really really really.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Wanted you specifically to evolutionize, to push yourself to do
other things and to humble yourself into other ventures. And
she's like, but Gunyado, you are the best. She's like,
you are the best. You know, like she really likes you,
(36:43):
She really really likes you. Like from the beginning of
the of the session, she's been nothing but like so
proud of Vanessa that you guys are together. You know,
but just like I said, put your energy into two
things all of it. Don't feel like if you don't,
(37:05):
then everything's going to go wrong or you're not going
to have anything to eat, or you know, you won't
make the man.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
I already know what those two things are. And believe me,
it's been ten things.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
At one point.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
You know it's taking me, give me all of this
time to you know, really choose the two things. But yeah,
one point that I was working on ten things. But
now I can absolutely focus on those two things. Yeah,
I'm glad that you said too, because there was a
third book that kind of just needs to be in
(37:37):
the background that that will happen itself.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, once you get the two rolling, like I said
to Vanessa, once she once he gets it one rolling,
then the two rolling, then the three. Before you know it,
maybe you'll have those ten things. But the approach that
you're having is I want to do everything I can.
That's not the approach because that's not the energy you
have to be out. The energy is I want this
(38:00):
happening this Then it is because of specific and that's
your whole life, Like that's your whole you know, that's.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
No, it's it's really good, and it's you know, we
it's it's a very important time for us at the moment,
because I think we're four years right and two and
a half years married, and I feel like we did.
I don't feel like it was fact that we met
at the right time in our lives.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
I think I was in a situation of where, you know,
I'd lost everything and I was trying to rebuild my business.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I wasn't happy where I was.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
There was a lot of things that were out of place,
you know, And I think when we met in Mexico
and we actually got to you know, drop the barriers,
Vanessa was in exactly the same kind of situation obviously
what happened with her sister.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's good. Yeah, we had.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
A lot, We learned a lot about each other very
very fast. And I think we were the same stages
in our lives, you know, yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Then nobody would understand, but we would.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
I think it would have been different if you know,
we were like like this, like she like.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
She said earlier, like if I was going, if I
was fulfilling my dream as.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I heard that, you wouldn't have had the time for them.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yeahcuse right, or probably not mature, you would if now you.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Know, she can see that my side is starting to ignite,
and I can see her magic and her light, you know,
starting to appear, and she needs to fly off and
do that. And you know, wherever I go, she'll calm,
and wherever she goes, I'll go. So if it would
have happened before, yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
So I love that you say the light, the light
that ignites. I love that you say that because we
lose it so many.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Times in the car the other day and I just said,
you know, her magic is real, you know, whenever she
walks into a space and it's time to believe. But yeah,
getting back onto.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yes, yes, no, no, on both of you.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I want I just want to say, if you let
me as a friend and as you know, connected with
the Grandma and everything, I just feel the energy is
so positive. I feel like you really were meant to
be together. And I feel that I don't know why.
I feel like as of today for some like you know,
(40:36):
as of now or something like that, I feel like
you're gonna go and get what you want without feeling
guilty of like, oh no, but my husband, but I
should be a wife.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
But it's like no, no, no, your husband does wanted
to do that, and.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Your wife does want you to go get whatever you
want to get.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
You know, like you truly are.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Looking for each other's happiness and that is just like
what appears, and that's what I look at and just
keep on going with that, you know, every day, because
not every couple, not every man or every woman wants
success for their partner because they're like, if he has success,
then he's gonna leave me, or he's gonna start dating girls.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
You know, it's like you're crazy, we're crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
But this like with you guys, it's like no, no, no,
you trust each other. You know, you trust each other,
and that's how it. You know, work on the trust, always,
work on the trust always, and it's your sister in
law says that it's something that you every day have
to nourish that part you know, of trust and but
(41:54):
as of everything else, you guys are going to get.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
To your dreams.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
So no, so don't worry in between, like it's gonna happen.
It's gonna happen for you. I don't know why I
see water with you. I see water in one of
your projects. Maybe it's not one that's right now. Maybe
later on something that has to do with water with you,
like transforming water or using water, like something water. Okay,
(42:25):
keep it in mind.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
Oh am I right, No, because it's okay.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Is it anything else? No?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
No, that's all like that came to me right now,
and it sounded so random. But sometimes I have to
say it because it might make sense, you know, something
with water. I think you know what I'm talking about.
Don't even do you don't have to even say it.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
But no, because it might not happen. Are you thinking
about what's happening.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Right now now?
Speaker 2 (42:53):
No? No, okay, you're amazing. Yeah, we'll let you know.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
Okay, but yeah, well done, and I'll leave you girth
to it.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
It was Thank you for so much. Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure to meet. Than you bye, Thank
you for your validation. Thank you. Oh my goodness, that
was amazing.
Wow, it is true, that's crazy? Not that okay? So
not that's not wasn't what?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Great?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is crazy?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
So which one is talking? Then?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hi, guys, Welcome to ghost therapy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm Paula pa Thank you so much for being here.
Oh my god, I can't believe so many episodes and
we're still here having so much fun. This time around
is probably one of the most special ones that I've
had because it's with one of my best friends and
I admire her so much. She's an actress, she's a singer,
(00:50):
and we've been through it all highs and lows cities.
It's just been crazy and she's such a good friend
of mine. And we're going to talk to her sister
and to her grandmother, which I knew nothing about them
because her sister always lived far away. So that's why
(01:10):
I decided to do it, because I know that there
was a part that I didn't know of that was
like virgin territory that I could bring about, and oh
my god, it was just so satisfying because her husband
was there. I didn't know he was there, and he's
a big skeptic and I was able to turn him
(01:31):
around with what I said, and that makes me so proud. Okay,
so I'm not going to say anymore. Let's go into
ghost therapy with Vanessa Villela. Miss Vanessa Villela, thank you
(01:58):
so much for.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Being Oh my god, you have an honor to be
here with you. I know your full journey, so I'm
so happy and I'm thankful that you're having me here
and your in your beautiful podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And oh yeah, I'm just excited. I have goose Mom's.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Everything because I know how powerful you are, so I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Oh and that is true.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You have been with me through my whole journey when
I didn't want it, when I wanted it, and everything else,
and you were always very supportive. So thank you. It's
such an honor to have you here. One of my
best friends. But I don't know. I didn't I didn't
know your grandmother, and I didn't know your sister because
(02:43):
she lived far away and this and that, so we
never really got the opportunity. So that's why she's on
here because I don't know that part and here it
goes therapy. It's very important for me to not know
very much about the guests, so I can.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I know everything about her, but.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
About what we're gonna do, it's different, so everything that
comes out will be new for both of us.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, And I've always just for the audience to know,
I've always been very not necessarily private. But obviously I'm
from Mexico City. I was born and raised there. My
acting career started in Mexico City, and then I moved
to Miami to do some TV shows and of operas,
and my sister lived in San Diego, so we would
see each other like maybe once a year. And that's why,
(03:29):
you know about even though we were very close in Miami,
didn't get the chance to, you know, to ever meet
her in person.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So yeah, just your brother, but not your sister. Yeah,
but I'm gonna meet her right now. Yeah, I'm gonna
meet her right now, which is awesome, Okay, perfect, all right,
I'm going to see a little prayer.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The first thing that she tells me is that she
thinks it's very very funny because somehow she always felt
she was a step behind you and you always felt
that you were a step behind her.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Does this make sense for you?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's like we both felt like that, but it wasn't
true we were the same.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yes, I mean, yeah, yeah, it makes total sense. I think,
you know, I think she felt like that, possibly because
of my.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Career and that I had more like an independent life.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
But I always, you know, I always was like the
little sister and right, yeah, I will look up.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
To her, right, yes, right, And for her, she's like,
I always felt less, and now that I'm up here,
she's like, I understood that you know, you both had different,
you know, different paths to live, and that she wouldn't
have able to live you know, your life or get
your fame, and you know, and she's like, and that's okay,
(05:06):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But she used to have like this, like you know,
like this little thing.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But she wants you to know that she it was
never ill, it was meant, it was never meant to
be a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It was just like that's how it felt.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
She's not trying to justify herself, but she's like, those
were my feelings and I can't say why, but those
were my feelings.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So it's kind of like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Sorry, you know, I'm sorry that I was kind of
like envying you sometimes. But it wasn't like a bad thing,
you know. It was because I wanted to do things too.
But now I understand why it wasn't like that, why
we went separate paths.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Wow, that's crazy, and it is. It does mean. It
makes sense a lot, and it.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Does mean a lot because I do feel since we
were little, that you know, that was something that there
was like I never want her to feel lessnan never,
and I think that even in my present life sometimes
I think possibly in my subconscious that stops me from.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
From shining, if that makes sense, because.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I probably absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
If you know right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
This is so funny because I that was kind of
the next thing I was going to tell you, so
thank you for bringing me into this.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
She's like, I want her to shine without feeling guilty.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Because that's why. I think that's why she started this conversation,
because she knows how you feel. And she's like, no, no, no,
I understand that this was my path. I wanted to shine.
I want you to be you know, I'm so happy
over here. She's like, I'm so I'm thriving over here
and there's nothing but good emotions towards you. So please
(06:59):
never ever feel like, oh, she could have done this
with me, or I could have helped her, or I could.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Have no no, no, no. We each had a path.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
God wanted it that way, and she's very happy about it,
and she's very proud of you, very She's like, even
though I was like far away and even though I
wanted kind of that life and everything, she's like, it
never stopped me from being proud of you. It never
stopped me from looking up to you, you know, and
(07:29):
you were the little sister. That's fine, but she looked
up to you, you know, and she's she's just so proud,
and also I want to she wants to congratulate you.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
On the wedding. She's like I was there, and.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
She talks about your husband as being like a combination
of good old fashioned man like with those good old
fashioned ways of thinking and the you know, like a
modern man. She's like, you have this great combination in
him than not many men have, and that she's so
(08:09):
happy that you found him, and that she's like whatever
struggle there there could be, and I don't think it's
like an emotional struggle. It's more of like putting your
life together to be together.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's like it's all worth it. It's all worth it
because since you're so independent, I feel like he lets
you be independent.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And he's a Yeah, he's a you know, the not
the common denominator obviously of a man, and I think
that's why I fall in love with him so deeply.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He's me.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Without the books.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
We're believing a same eyes well, old school style, which
is why I always wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
To do exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Those are very like you know, he's not like Machi
style or anything. He just lets me do my thing
and he lives in me and he empowers me.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So right, perfect, that's what she loves about him. That's
exactly what she loves about him.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And it's crazy because you don't know him either.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't know him exactly. I don't know him, but
that sounds like you. So wow, I'm so glad you
have so such pretty words for him.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah. Yeah, she's very happy about that.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Like you said, not every man is like that and
is a common denominator, but she's so happy about that.
She wants to to say really quickly she's like, I'm
so glad you didn't have a child, and she smiles
(09:55):
because she's like, you were meant to have fun, you
were like for you, everything started later than the usual,
you know, and your life like everything started late for you.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And she's like, you need to live more. You need to.
You wouldn't have been able to have the wonderful life
that you have if you have had a baby. And
even though it's like maybe.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
A sensitive subject, maybe not for you, but she smiles
because she knows that, like she knows how your life
could have been, and she knows the life that you
have now, and she's like, I choose the life you
have now by far, you know, and she's very happy
(10:41):
about that. And just so just so you know, you
know that from upstairs it looks differently than it looks downside.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, sometimes I think about that, and sometimes I think like, oh,
you know, it would be awesome to a some point
have a baby, but if if it hasn't happened, god
knows what. And I've always you know, because I am
come from a you know, parents are were not together
by lee to have a baby.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So you know, yeah, life just happened, and.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, exactly, it happened now it's supposed to happen and
maybe in the future.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But either or it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You see, it's oh no yeah at our age. No no, no,
it's hard. What was your grandma's name?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I think she's here, Madia, Oh I have to but
I think the one.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I think that that PA's recently.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
When did she pass?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like two years ago?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Okay, okay, okay. I think I feel like a like
a very grandma vibe. Let me see if it's her.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
She's laughing and she's saying, you had a good grandmother
and like a bad grandmother.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Does that make sense? Like on one side?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Why wait wait, I had one good grandmother and the
other one not so much.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Uh huh, wow, this is true.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Not that okay, so not that it's not wasn't what?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Great?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is crazy?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So which one is talking? Then?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I think that it's the good one because she wants
you to like you are the bad one, but I'm
the good one, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like the comparison.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yes, it's freaking crazy because not a lot of people
know this.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And of course I love both of.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
My grandma's and I think that my mom my father's grandmother. Sorry,
that was like the most loving, dedicated grandma, like crazy,
I will, you know, her and my grandpa were my
life besides my parents.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And then my my grandma.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
From my mom's side, she was a little bit more
very loving, but.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It was a little bit more like in her own thing,
I think. And also yeah, I think she was a little.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Colder, not though she was she like not that like
not loving and you know, giving, not heartwarming until she
became older older older, So but we were not living
in the same place, so we never.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Too late at that like.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That boy, yes.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Exactly, but I was.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
That's crazy, okay, Okay, so yeah, I think it's it's
it's like she's laughing.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
She's like, I'm the good.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Witch, you know, like like wicked, you know, I'm the
good with.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
She what she what Navia is saying is that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
No, but then who's speaking is is Celito.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah that's a good way to because she's the one
that was very loving. That was very loving, Okay, she's
like she she describes herself as being and this is
like a message for you. She describes herself as being
(14:21):
like very I don't know, like crazy or very like
I think, like a little bit more open minded than
other grandmothers something about that. Anyway, the thing is that
she's she's like I was very loose, Like I was
very I didn't care what people thought of me. And
I was like, oh, if you want it, if you don't,
(14:43):
I don't care. And she's like, I want her to
be more like that. She's like I want Uh. She's like,
you have such a beautiful soul that sometimes you fear
that people are not gonna like you, or that it
like inside of yourself, like very I feel this is
(15:03):
subconsciously and not something you really know or you really
kind of are aware of. But she's like, she's such
a beautiful soul, and sometimes she's worried about what other
people say, or how to look a certain way, or
like just how she presents herself. And she's like, I
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really want you, like as something that you have to
learn in life is to like let go of.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
That and be She's like one day she's like she's
so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
She's like she'll never be ugly, you know, but one
day no makeup and one day you know it a
burgher and one day and it's gonna be fine. She's like,
I want her to live true to her, to her
beautiful self, and not always think that she's not enough
and that you need to be prettier, or you need
(16:01):
to be this, or you need to be more famous.
She's like, no, it's all about now now, at this age,
it's now about being yourself and being comfortable with yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So this is like for your future, you know. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And she's so proud of you too, like she's very
she's very happy to be here.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
And they're both here, like your sister and her, they're
both here.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
But Cellito, what was Celllito Jacqueline's grandma too? Yes, yes, okay, okay, okay,
this is from your sister. She says, I want you
to know that life didn't take you where you wanted
(16:57):
precisely to go, but it took you to where you
had to go.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Because if you had had.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Your way and what you wanted to do, maybe in
la you wouldn't have experimented what it was to have
a good man beside you. You would have experimented what
it was to have a home, to have all these
beautiful things that you wouldn't have stopped to even give
(17:30):
it a chance because you were so focused on the career.
So she's like, God in a way kind of forced
you into something that you maybe didn't want to, but
he gave you what you really needed and you did
not know.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Does this make sense for you?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I did so, because when she passed away, my life
took another direction.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I know, she's saying she had to take on something
that wasn't what she wanted to take on.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Does that make sense.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, So I've.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Tried to honor her life since she died, and.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Because of that, I tried to do something with our business.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
And then it didn't work, and I ended up doing
what she wanted me to do, which was real estate,
and that obviously directed me in another complete other direction
from my acting.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Career and my dream of being here in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, but then it puts you back into it because
you were on selling sides that it was TV with
the realtors, so it was kind of yeah, and you know,
we can do we can we can have all everything,
just in a different way that you planned, you know.
And she she's like when she's when you're saying this,
(18:59):
she's like, I really never wanted you to be real estate,
she said. I wanted you to be because I wanted
you to be, like to have a normal life. And
she's like, now I know that you were never looking
for a normal life. You are non normal. You have
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this gift, you have this gift of acting, you have
the gift of singing. And I never understood that, she says.
And whatever I said when I was alive, forget it
because I understand you now. I understand what you want.
(19:41):
I understand your mind, and I understand your goals and
your dreams. I didn't understand them before. So I kind
of like pushed you or gave you those words, and
you took them on. Like, if she dies, I have
to do what she says. She's like, I'm sorry if
I made you feel that way.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
It wasn't my intention, right, I mean, I guess that
just just you know, it wasn't necessarily because she told me,
I thought it was like the right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Thing to do.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I mean, she told me, and then I felt like
I sat one day in my car crying and I
asked for a sign. And that's you know, when she
pretty much spoke to me through someone else. But I
was a stranger, so I took obviously, I definitely know
that it was in my destiny to do it, and
that's why I was living in selling sense.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It was such a you know, even though I'm not
I'm not there anymore, it was definitely something I needed
to experience. And I know that without all of this happening,
you never know.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So that's also another way of me and you know,
even for your audience to trust that everything unfolds in
the right way, because you know, I wanted to do
the crossover and I never imagined that I would have
been through selling senset, which, even though not as an actress,
it be recognition in this in this kind of sort
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of and I got the opportunity of people to get
to know me as a person instead of the villain
of Or you were.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Always you were always the villain. I loved you on
that show because you were so authentic. You're like, I
speak this kind of English and that's me, and I'm
you know, I'm I'm proud of myself.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
And I have been through your journey too.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Of this girl, I mean went to La and she's like,
I'm going to speak the best English. I'm going to
be the best, and she did, like not many people
at this age can really accomplish that. And I don't
know how. I don't know like how it happened, but
you actually, like your English is so good, and you
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know it's it.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Was a game changer for you. And she's like, imagine
you in Miami right now, what the hell would you
be doing?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You know what I mean. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
God took you away when he had to take you away,
and you know, put you where you're supposed to be,
you know, and I thank God because you wouldn't have
lived all that. But most of all, she's so happy
that you met your husband, you know, and like in
an old fashioned way, like that's what she wanted for you.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You know, she wanted you to get married.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And you were always so focused on your career, and
you know, you didn't always have the best boyfriends.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
One in specific, I won't say names.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
H crazy, I am very blessed.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I'm very happy where I am.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, And and she also says where you're at right
now is none necessarily where you're gonna stay.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
So there's no like, Okay, well.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm married, I'm not gonna do the Hollywood thing because
now I'm married it's like, no, no, no, you can
do anything. You can still go on. Don't lose the momentum,
you know, don't lose it. You can still do real
estate and you can still do your career. She's like,
don't try to pick. Okay, I'm gonna choose real estate.
(23:28):
She's like, no, choose all three of them. Choose everything
you can choose. Do it because I feel like you've
correct me if I'm wrong. She makes me feel that
you've lost a little spark, the little spark of that
girl that dreamed of.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So much when she got to.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
La and not in a bad way, but in a like,
you know, like you matured. But she's like, go back
to being that thirteen year old that was about to be,
you know, on her first soap opera and was very happy.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Go back to those feelings.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Those are the ones that are gonna make you want
to to what you love, Like, don't give up on that.
Are you giving up or are you trying to give up?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Okay, so that's phrasy that you just mentioned the feeling
of my first SLP opera. Okay, two days ago, I
was sitting in the car with my husband. If it
wasn't yesterday. I don't know, and he asked me it
was yesterday. If there was a memory of your childhood
that or something like that that you can remember and
(24:40):
will make you smile, which one would be? And I
said exactly that the first day that I went into
a set.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Of my first slap opera.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
That's crazy, that's crazy. And that happened, yes.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Happened yesterday when we were charging car because we have
an electric car.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Sometimes they were like, oh, should.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
We organize the car? Should we talk?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I'm like, let's talk and then we do child question, right,
And that was.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
One of them. That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Wow, I feel like I gave up my dream for
a while, and I'm actually.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Realizing the you know, real.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You know, la claro treves perque no necessary? Right, look
at me doing a podcast? What the hell I would
have never imagined, you know. And uh, it's reinventing and
more about not having. It's like going away from your
(25:46):
original dream and then being like, Okay, now I'm this
married woman, I live here, I have the electrical car.
All this is is a new version of you, you know,
and now this new version is out to go get
her drinks, you know, and why not? I see there
(26:06):
is no freaking reason for you not to do it,
especially you with all your experience, with your beautiful face
and body and.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Your ass, and asked, yeah, she has that I have
ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yes, So I see that smile and I know what
that smile is about, and it's about like, yeah, I
want to go back, So.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Go back, go back.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And we're so used to knows in our lives, We're
so used to rejection that you already know the drill.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yes, now you're you're a married woman.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You're so mature, it's not going to affect you like
it affected you fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Right, And I think I'm all doing things differently. I'm
getting prepared for what that opportunity comes because I say
always that, you know, I had opportunities in the past
where I wasn't ready, Like you know, English was a
very career for me, especially with my dream, so I
wasn't ready. And that's why I don't like even my
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husband sometimes like let's practicianage, and I'm like, no, no, no,
I need to learn.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I need to speak the language. I need to be
fluent in English. I need to be able to do it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
And now you know, I rejoined like.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Acting with a workshop. And I feel it that I
can feel the.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Difference already with my auditions because I feel, yes, I
feel I don't start or you know.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, because you're right now that you have it down,
you worry more about doing a good audition than having
a good accent or actually like talking in English, you
do it. So yeah, that's exactly. So this new you
is going to get very far because this new you
(28:03):
has new dreams or new perspective on dreams. The thing
is that we change so much. We have changed, you know,
so much in so many things, you know, and and
we can't think that what we used to what we
used to dream, or what we used to want, we
can't think that we want that anymore. Sometimes, you know,
(28:27):
it's like, yeah, I've always wanted I always wanted to
be a singer. Nothing went right when I was a singer.
And now I'm like, okay, but at least I tried.
And I'm not mad at the world because I'm not
a singer. But I used to be very mad at
the world because I wasn't a singer. But I got old,
I matured, and now it's not that it's not my
dream and if it happens, hell yeah. But if it doesn't,
(28:49):
I'm okay with it. And I'm so glad that day
came because or else I would be very frustrated.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And I think when when.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
You are addition, or when you do things from frustration
or from like I want it, nothing happens. But when
you do it as an accomplished woman, married and this
and that, the energy is so different that you're going
to get more parts because you're.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Like, if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't,
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yes, I guess so yeah. And I also I've learned
to trust on the timing of things. And everything happens
for a reason, and wondersn't know.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's because the.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Dream that you think this is going to take you
to your dream, but am I actually take you away
from your dream?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So you have to let the universe and God guide.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Your you know, if you believe in God, if you
leave in the universe.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Book guide your steps, and then just believe.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
As long as you believe, I think, and you keep
doing the work, I know it happens rights and it.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Happens with my career.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think that's absolutely absolutely, And we We never thought
like that before. When we were younger, you know, we
were so like focused and we just wanted it and
wanted it and yeah we got it and everything. But
you know, now comes the second part, the third part
of your life.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So your your your husband.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
He's a photographer, right, yes, is one of the things
that he does.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Okay. The message, and this comes from Chilito for your husband.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
He's like, you know, when you're in you're focus on
so many things, nothing really happens, you know, like sturdily.
She's like, tell him to pick three things or two
things and go for it full throttle instead of like
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you know, like putting his hands into everything, which which
is okay because he does it well. That's not the problem.
The problem is not that he doesn't do things well.
The problem is that the energy goes into so many
things that it's like little little, little, little little instead
of like full energy onto one thing and then comes
(31:20):
the next, and then comes the next, and before he
knows it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
You know, he's doing everything he wants, but in a
strong way. Is he there with you? Is he there?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Oh my God, come on into comera, come here.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
We need to need each other. What is your problem? No,
he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Want to you will come. Yeah, he's just he's not getting.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Continue. Continue.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
But I love because your eyes were like going like that,
and I'm like, what the hell are you? Yeah, come
on overster Hardy.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Okay, Hi, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's so so nice to meet you.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
And I've been listening to you from a distance and
you know, I'm I'm very skeptical.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Is that is the right word?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
You know, no problem, you've met people like me before.
I think what you just said just tend me upside down.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It resonated.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, look, you.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Know I'm in a foreign country and I'm here for Vanessa,
you know, and it's it's very difficult here.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
God you know of course, yes.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Yes, I have my hands very very full. So yeah, continue, let.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Me see, let me see what else your sister in love?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You know, Like, I'm so happy you said that to
me because that that brings me so much joy to
turn up spectacle skeptical around.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Thank you very much, deserve.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It, I think, thank you.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Yeah, there's there's you know, people know me for what
I do in England, but no one knows the pressure
I have here and all the things that I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
So yeah, well done.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Of course, it's it's double the work to prove yourself
when where nobody knows you. Yeah, oh this is beautiful. Okay,
this is from Jackie. She's like the reason God puts
you guys together.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
You were both.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Leave stuck in your I was I used to be this.
I was an actress. I was I don't know whatever
you were in England. I was a singer, I was
this and that, and then come together because guess what,
there's a new life, there's a new chapter and you
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both understand what that's like together. You see what I'm saying.
And that's kind of why God, she has explained to me,
because you and specifically needed to get out of your
comfort zone and needed to understand that you were so
much more, that you are so much more than what
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you were in England, or you were in England or
where were you in England than what you were in England.
No matter how successful, that doesn't that's not even a
the issue. It's not about successful. It's about you proving
to yourself and you growing evolution, like evolution in your
(35:10):
soul to actually even if it's hard. It's kind of
like when they say they're growing pains. You know that
it's hard for you. You miss it over there. You
had your thing over there. Okay, now build your shit
now here, you know, because you are able to.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
But the thing is that.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I feel like you guys together give yourself that space too,
because sometimes it's about grief. It's about the grief of
letting go your last life, your England life, your Mexico
or Miami life. And then you know, it's very hard
(35:55):
and it's like you're grieving something. It's like a death,
the death of my life over there and the death. Yes,
but now you guys are like like you're born together
as new people that are out there to make it happen.
And only you guys understand each other because that's not
(36:16):
easy to understand.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
So God really really really.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Wanted you specifically to evolutionize, to push yourself to do
other things and to humble yourself into other ventures. And
she's like, but Gunyado, you are the best. She's like,
you are the best. You know, like she really likes you,
(36:43):
She really really likes you. Like from the beginning of
the of the session, she's been nothing but like so
proud of Vanessa that you guys are together. You know,
but just like I said, put your energy into two
things all of it. Don't feel like if you don't,
(37:05):
then everything's going to go wrong or you're not going
to have anything to eat, or you know, you won't
make the man.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
I already know what those two things are. And believe me,
it's been ten things.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
At one point.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
You know it's taking me, give me all of this
time to you know, really choose the two things. But yeah,
one point that I was working on ten things. But
now I can absolutely focus on those two things. Yeah,
I'm glad that you said too, because there was a
third book that kind of just needs to be in
(37:37):
the background that that will happen itself.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, once you get the two rolling, like I said
to Vanessa, once she once he gets it one rolling,
then the two rolling, then the three. Before you know it,
maybe you'll have those ten things. But the approach that
you're having is I want to do everything I can.
That's not the approach because that's not the energy you
have to be out. The energy is I want this
(38:00):
happening this Then it is because of specific and that's
your whole life, Like that's your whole you know, that's.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
No, it's it's really good, and it's you know, we
it's it's a very important time for us at the moment,
because I think we're four years right and two and
a half years married, and I feel like we did.
I don't feel like it was fact that we met
at the right time in our lives.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
I think I was in a situation of where, you know,
I'd lost everything and I was trying to rebuild my business.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I wasn't happy where I was.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
There was a lot of things that were out of place,
you know, And I think when we met in Mexico
and we actually got to you know, drop the barriers,
Vanessa was in exactly the same kind of situation obviously
what happened with her sister.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's good. Yeah, we had.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
A lot, We learned a lot about each other very
very fast. And I think we were the same stages
in our lives, you know, yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Then nobody would understand, but we would.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
I think it would have been different if you know,
we were like like this, like she like.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
She said earlier, like if I was going, if I
was fulfilling my dream as.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I heard that, you wouldn't have had the time for them.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yeahcuse right, or probably not mature, you would if now you.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Know, she can see that my side is starting to ignite,
and I can see her magic and her light, you know,
starting to appear, and she needs to fly off and
do that. And you know, wherever I go, she'll calm,
and wherever she goes, I'll go. So if it would
have happened before, yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
So I love that you say the light, the light
that ignites. I love that you say that because we
lose it so many.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Times in the car the other day and I just said,
you know, her magic is real, you know, whenever she
walks into a space and it's time to believe. But yeah,
getting back onto.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yes, yes, no, no, on both of you.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I want I just want to say, if you let
me as a friend and as you know, connected with
the Grandma and everything, I just feel the energy is
so positive. I feel like you really were meant to
be together. And I feel that I don't know why.
I feel like as of today for some like you know,
(40:36):
as of now or something like that, I feel like
you're gonna go and get what you want without feeling
guilty of like, oh no, but my husband, but I
should be a wife.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
But it's like no, no, no, your husband does wanted
to do that, and.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Your wife does want you to go get whatever you
want to get.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
You know, like you truly are.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Looking for each other's happiness and that is just like
what appears, and that's what I look at and just
keep on going with that, you know, every day, because
not every couple, not every man or every woman wants
success for their partner because they're like, if he has success,
then he's gonna leave me, or he's gonna start dating girls.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
You know, it's like you're crazy, we're crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
But this like with you guys, it's like no, no, no,
you trust each other. You know, you trust each other,
and that's how it. You know, work on the trust, always,
work on the trust always, and it's your sister in
law says that it's something that you every day have
to nourish that part you know, of trust and but
(41:54):
as of everything else, you guys are going to get.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
To your dreams.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
So no, so don't worry in between, like it's gonna happen.
It's gonna happen for you. I don't know why I
see water with you. I see water in one of
your projects. Maybe it's not one that's right now. Maybe
later on something that has to do with water with you,
like transforming water or using water, like something water. Okay,
(42:25):
keep it in mind.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
Oh am I right, No, because it's okay.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Is it anything else? No?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
No, that's all like that came to me right now,
and it sounded so random. But sometimes I have to
say it because it might make sense, you know, something
with water. I think you know what I'm talking about.
Don't even do you don't have to even say it.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
But no, because it might not happen. Are you thinking
about what's happening.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Right now now?
Speaker 2 (42:53):
No? No, okay, you're amazing. Yeah, we'll let you know.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
Okay, but yeah, well done, and I'll leave you girth
to it.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
It was Thank you for so much. Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure to meet. Than you bye, Thank
you for your validation. Thank you. Oh my goodness, that
was amazing.
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Paola Pedroza
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