April 8, 2025 • 37 mins
Vero Iglesias is a beauty & lifestyle content from Miami, now based in London.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She's showing me a lot of dresses.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Do you know why that is so funny that you
say that, because.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We were literally just my grandmama was just saying the
story the other day.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy. This
is Pa. Thank you for joining us one more week.
(00:35):
This time around, we had a session with Vedo Iglesias.
This was so special because she talked to her grandmother
and it was not a normal story because that grandmother
had Alzheimer's disease and Vito was the one that took
care of her and it was very hard on her,
and the grandma really wanted to say thank you, really
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wanted her to know that she knew she was there,
she knew she was taking care of her.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But it was so special for her to receive.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
That simple thank you, you know, because she couldn't have
received it any other way. And it was very, very
thoughtful and very kind of the grandmother to do that.
And also a little surprise along the way, one of
her mascots from when she was little appeared and that
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was a big surprise too. I hope you enjoy it.
This is GHOS therapy with sad. Thank you so much.
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay. The first thing I feel is a sense of them.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I don't know if it's a lawyer, Picky, you're gonna
tell me based on what I tell you. I feel
a sense of like being lost, kind of. I feel disoriented,
and I feel like going about a little bit with
life not knowing what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
My great grandmother had Alzheimer's.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
That's what it is. Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I think we have a Lloyd with us, which is awesome. Okay,
thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Let me see what she's saying. She's laughing because she's.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Like you guys, Oh, she's like I understood more than
you know, or I understood more than you thought.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And she's laughing.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And something about the eyes I don't know, like maybe
she rolled her eyes or something like that, but she's like,
you know, I know, I know, And she's very happy.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
She's she's sparkling.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
What can I say, And she's very thankful because she's like,
you did the right thing and you guys. I think
I feel like there's like some sense of like you
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would want to say, you would need her approval about
what happened like.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Before her death.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, something that you know, she needs to tell you
that she approves that it was okay, and she's actually
thankful because I know she knows that it was out
of love.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That it does make sense.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So there was just a lot of things I think
going on in the family dynamic. My great grandmother was
a bit of a matriarch, I would say, and there
were just a lot of decisions that were being made.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Obviously, when someone.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Has Alzheimer's and they live alone and you know, people
don't necessarily know how to take care of them necessarily,
there was a.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Lot of.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Just like family dynamic issues that kind of arise from
that and decisions that need to be made of she
knows she needs to live in an apartment, she can't
live with her daughter anymore. They need to have people
taking care of her, and kind of everything that happens
with someone passing away but passing away slowly.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I wasn't as involved.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Because I was a teenager at the time, but I
know that's something that my mom would probably really appreciate
to hear.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm so glad.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I'm so glad because sometimes these messages maybe I'm telling
them to you, but yeah, the whole family may need
to hear it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
She's like, don't worry.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Everything you did was correct, thank you for doing it,
and nothing but thankful.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
She's nothing but thankful. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Does it make sense that she's pushing a man away?
Did she was she divorced?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
No, she wasn't divorced.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
But I think with all marriage at a certain age.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I don't know that much about their marriage necessarily. I
do know a lot of stories about them living together
and about you know, when she would sun down in
her Alzheimer's she would always be like mad at him,
like where is he? And he had passed away years before,
so things like that, where it's like did he leave
the house, where is he?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
When is he coming back?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Like just I think, you know, those old traditional relationships
probably something along the.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Lines that you hate each other, but you have to
stay together for the kids, the grandkids and the yeah
and everybody else. Right, She's like, she laughed because I
think it's funny to her because I don't know if
like for her, the best thing about alzheimer or something
was like, you know, he was pushed away like oh yeah,
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no problems, and you know she hadn't. She like her
problems went half. You know, we're parted in the middle.
Hold on, hold on? What was what was your great
great grandfrother great grandfather's name?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Max Media?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I know, Okay, she wants.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
To talk about you something like a little bit more personal.
She's like, don't tell everything. I don't know if this
is to your mother or if it's like to everybody,
but she's like, be very careful with what you tell people.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, so the energy doesn't come kind of.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Because when were excited about something, we always tell oh,
I guess why. She's like you you you have to
be very quiet.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I know this is so hard for me. I try,
I try. It's so hard. Every day is something happening.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I've always want to tell someone and people and my
mom and all my friends and do the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And it's you do lose energy the more pain it.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Does, know, Yeah, and it's yeah, and it don't worry
about it because it's not about like because they wish
you ill like like, it's not about like, because your
mom will always be happy for you.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
It's just like, keep it in, keep it in, because
I feel like a lot of things have kind of
rolled out of control because of that, and we need
to keep it tight and we need to keep it inside.
And she's like, scream into a pillow or whatever you want,
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just tell no one got even your shadow.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Okay, okay, got it?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Okay, great, great, Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
She wants to talk about you.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
For your beauty and your intelligence to join forces, right,
and she's like, there's something you have to do or
you have to create that is about your beauty that
makes you makes my then you make money off of
your beauty.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It does make sense. I do to like content creation.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh okay, and you're on it right, You're yeah, you
are the star. Okay, perfect. Then maybe it's a validation
more than a so well if you already do it. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The thing is I started doing it about maybe like
six months ago, so it is.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Very fresh for me, and I have I was a
I'm trained as a lawyer, so I've always been very
academic and I have several masters and several degrees, and
to go from that to then just kind of people's
perception is posting videos of me doing makeup on the internet.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's something I kind of struggle with right to deal
with that.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I am a very intelligent, academic person, but I also
enjoy glamming up and doing my hair and doing my makeup,
and trying to connect the two has been an internal
kind of daily struggle.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I would say, oh, definitely, definitely, I totally understand. I
think what she's and this is something that she's telling
you to do, but it's not exactly like she's telling
you exactly what to do. But if you are a
content creator, then I feel like your intelligence is what's
gonna your that you can do something besides the makeup
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thing that makes it, you know, if you're a lawyer
or anything, something about use your two best you know,
assets and make contact content with that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So it's not something that we have to come up
with right now.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's just something that she's suggesting, and I don't know,
maybe give u uh tips of you know, something about
like if you've got a ticket or something you no,
you know, I'm just being stupid, but you know what
I mean, like something that you could use.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's like a pretty lawyer.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
What you know, there's not a lot of those out there,
you know, something like that, but you got to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's not something for now.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
But she would really like that because she thinks very
highly of you, of like what you said, of your
academic abilities, of who you are, of how you've you know,
gotten about your career. So she's proud of it, and she.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
She doesn't mind the content like maybe like your struggle.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
On the other like she's way on the other side,
she's like, that's great, Google, Okay, okay, perfect, here we golloy.
There's something that she wants to validate about your mother,
something of out never saying goodbye, and I'm assuming it's
because of the Alzheimer like in something that your mom
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is like, when did I lose her that I couldn't
tell her everything, you know, And she's like, tell her,
I already know what she wanted to tell me. Tell
me that I read her mind and I know what
she feels. Don't worry about it. And also she wants
to be to say thank you because I feel like
your mom something about her home being a.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Just off, like not attending to her home because of
your yeah, right, and it was your mom that happened
right now, your grandma, it was your mom, And so
she was very thankful for that because she's like, it
wasn't her job, it wasn't her you know, it wasn't
her place, you know, And she took on a responsibility
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that not many people would have to taken on.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yes, mom, My mom pretty much took care of my
great grandmother throughout the end of her life. And my
mom had three little kids and would go to her
to go see we call her Aweila. Would go see
Awaila every day and would be at the doctor's appointments.
My grandparents, so my great grandmother's daughter would go to
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the Bahamas for like two months in the summer, and
my mom would take whole responsibility of being at the
hospital because obviously whenever the someone leaves, they have to
end up in the hospital. My mom would be there
all day, all night talking with the ladies who took
care of her because she had some nurses that were there.
My mom pretty much held a pretty big percentage of
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the responsibility while having three little kids, while working, while
having a husband, which you know, the marriage probably didn't help,
so that didn't work out for her.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So I think there was a lot that she sacrificed
and that she took on that she didn't have to.
She's so thankful for that, so so thankful. She's she
shows like somebody juggling, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I was this gay. She's very very
thankful for that. Also, she's showing me a lot of dresses.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Do you know why that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is so funny that you say that, because.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We were literally just my grandma.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Mom was just saying the story the other day because
I'm noting about Cubans.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
But Cubans can be intense, is the best adjective I
could use.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I lived in Miami for many years, I know, so
my angry grandmother when I was a classic like Cuban grandmother,
and she was obsessed with the way she looked, and
she was obsessed.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
With being skinny.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Okay, even though Cubans are never that skinny, so I know,
but whatever, she was obsessed with it just beyond So
when my great grandmother got Alzheimer's, she was sundowning, so
she started eating, like at night, a lot of food
and snacking a lot of food.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And obviously you gain a lot of weight when that happens.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
So, my mom, as we just said, was so involved
in my great grandmother's every aspect of her life. She
would go and buy her dresses from like Ross or Marshals,
like something cheap but like cute, like a lot of yeah,
me thought that she could wear. And of course when
my grandmother, my grandmother started gaining weight, my mom had
to buy bigger sizes.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And my grandmother saw the dress and goes, what size
is this?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
What do you mean you bought it for fourteen? I've
only ever been an eight in my entire life. You
must return these, okay, they need to be returned immediately.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I'm not wearing that.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't want anything to do with it. And my
mom would lie to her. My mom would be like,
no ah, waita they run small, Like I promise, just
try it on. She's like no, no, no, no return it.
So my mom would then go leave the house and
she would cut the tags so that she couldn't see
the sizes and that bring them back, and then my
grandmother would be like, when I'm out of yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The same dress. Yes, that's so crazy, that's crazy. She's
probably she's probably right now being like, now I know
what you did?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know, you said in the beginning, like I knew
more than you guys think.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
And now she knows even more.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
She's like when they get up there, like they show
them everything that happened that they especially the Alzheimer's. You
know that what everybody did for you and you didn't notice,
you know. But she must be laughing about that. That's
a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I love it. Tell your mom.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I will tell her mom.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
There's something about money. I feel like she's kind of
excusing herself.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Hold on, hold on, let me get this right, something
about I'm sorry I spent the money.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It's like it was back back then, like not before
she died, something about there there was she had her money,
not saying like a lot ing thing, but and she
said it was it was all going to be like divided.
And at the end, there's something about she feels remorseful
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that she spent it. But I don't know if maybe
your mom knows more about this than you. But she
says I'm so sorry. She's like, I'm sorry I spent it,
and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
She laughs. She's like I had the intentions, but it
didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Interesting yeah, my mom might know more about the financial
stuff of things.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
She might yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, And I'm not saying like, you know this big
inheritance or anything, but there's something that that she was
meant to.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It was meant for maybe your mom, but at the
end she spent it. So she just goes like this
like I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But yeah, that may maybe that makes sense for your
mom a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I know we talked about your career right now, and
I don't want to seem like I'm repeating what you've said,
but she wants you to know that whatever is happening
right now, I feel like there's a change. And she's like,
you are where you where you're.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Supposed to be, okay, And do you have a boyfriend
or are you married.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Or and I know I'm single. I've been seeing someone,
but not boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Okay, okay, okay, because she wants but she's like, whoever
he is, you're where you're supposed to be, and you're
learning whatever you're supposed to learn. You see what I'm saying.
If he yeah, and I feel like he's a very
good guy. I feel like he's a good guy. I
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feel like he's different from other maybe cultures you know,
or something about culture you know, about how they are,
or like one in a million kind of thing in
his culture. And she's like, learn be happy and don't
stop worrying about what you're doing, what's going to come next,
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what it's like live the moment. You're fine, you're exploring,
you're doing, and that's more than enough. Okay, Okay, then yes, okay,
she's validating cool, cool, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And she feels like.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
What like whatever she could say to you would be
there's so many more things that are going to happen,
everything will change, so might as well enjoy the ride.
It doesn't matter. Kind of like where you're going right now,
it's more about what you're exploring, what you're learning, and
then we'll worry about the worst.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, okay, awesome did Peaky Peky was a dog? Right?
I had chog chalk headhog, but she was kind of
like a dog.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Okay, it would call I called her Head's dog.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's so funny. I like, because let me see if
it's if it's her.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
But something about don't feel guilty about leaving me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Well?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
It does, but there is also another dog who could
become Okay, I don't know if Luna might make sense.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Luna Luna, Okay, it's something about her energy is very
very Grandma energy.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So she's like she's like, I know that everybody had
to live their life or had to move on. She's like,
I knew that, and I never felt abandoned, and I
was so proud of everybody moving on because that's what
you're supposed to do and not stay behind because of me.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Does this make sense for Luna?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It doesn't make sense for Luna. Yeah. So okay, s
already get emotional, but.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No problem.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So Luna was my she like basically like my childhood dog,
and we were like attached at the hip, like she
was my dog. But then of course you go off
to college and I moved abroad and I never lived
at home after pretty much I was eighteen, like I
would be in Miami for the summers. But besides that,
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and Luna was always like on my mind and it
was very difficult to not be with her and to
kind of leave her. And then of course, like she
grew up, she was like a box her dog that
grew up in a house with I had two older brothers,
and we were always around, and I was always home
and I was always playing with her, and I would
sleep in the bed together. And then we all went
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away and she was there with my mom and there
were buddies to the end. But it went from being
a very full house to being a very quiet one, right,
And so I think I always had a little bit
of guilt of guilt.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, no, No, she was so happy that everybody because
that's what life like. She's fully under understanding that it
had to be what it had to be, and she
was just it was just an honor for her to
just be part of your family, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And she was happy, she said, She's like, I was
always happy. You thought that you abandoned me, but I
was always happy. I had a house, I had food.
I was fine.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I missed you, but it wasn't It wasn't about me
feeling any anything bad towards anybody in the house. Okay,
So you needed, I think you needed to know that. Yeah,
and she's fine, she's perfect. Was there something wrong with
one of her legs.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, she she was a mess.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
She had this like disgusting I'm sorry now, but it
was disgusting.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It was this like massive cyst.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
It looked like a tumor, but it was like huge,
and it took up her whole like anyone like it
was honestly the size of a baseball hanging off the
side of her leg, and it was like it.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Wasn't I make eye contact wish. And it caused us
a lot of issues towards the end because not only
like medically it wasn't that big of a problematically, but
it was just so ugly and it would bleed and
it would scap and things would have happened to it,
and we didn't know how to make I got tact
with it and we were all like.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's so gross.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
And she was such a beautiful dog that we're like
doing all this really doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Brilliant, poor loona. Oh my god. Okay, I think she's
just laughing, not boring.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
She's laughing about it, like do you remember, you know,
the good old days of the big old ball. I
guess she just wants you to know that there's no
ball in heaven God. And she's freedom, she's rad of
walk and she's rid of bet Without that, She's like,
it's so much fun up here.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I'm so happy. You know, that was just my body,
but I'm a very happy soul.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Good that makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, completely.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, because I think the dogs.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I think with the animals, there's so much unconditional love
there that I think a lot of my guilt came
from you. Anyone who owns a dog knows that that
dog gives you unconditional love every day of their life,
and you sometimes wonder what do I give to them?
Like where do I give them? So I think that's
kind of where a lot of that guilt comes from.
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So it is very validating to hear these things completely.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Wait, do you have children? It gifts, We're gone, they're guilt.
It never stops. It's a whole other type of guilt.
And now you have like two guilts to the work
and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, so it gets
wors don't worry about it. But yeah, I understand. I
understand what you mean. Like we give maybe not like
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thirty percent of what they give us, but that's what
we think.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
They see things different and they're happy no matter what.
So she was very happy with you guys, very very happy,
especially like the playing thing and everything. She she like, that's
what she remembers, that's what stuck the playing.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What are the names of.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Your two brothers, Max and Jaffa?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Would I be correct to say that Max tolerates nothing?
Is like very yes, okay, okay, perfect. She's like, you
know what, that's who he is. Take it or leave it.
Don't expect any changes. Don't expect any sudden like I've
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changed forever kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It's like, always keep in mind and I'm sure you
do nothing bad. But she's like, always keep in mind
that that's his personality. He doesn't mean any thing bad.
And when he hurts feelings, he doesn't actually or necessarily
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know how much.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
He hurts feelings.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Okay, okay, So to just give him a little grace
because that's what his story is. Yeah, it's not yours,
it's his. That makes sense, And just a little grace
for him would be wonderful.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
And for Rafa, Rafa.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Is living far away from you, right, yes, yes, where
is Rafa?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Naffa's in Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Phoenix, okay, and you areware in London, London, London.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Rapha does very well for himself, I feel does that
make sense.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
He struggles in his own ways, but he's a very
fulfilled person internally.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Oh yeah, that's awesome. Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I feel like he's very and they show him It
doesn't necessarily mean that he wears a suit, but they
show him in a suit.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
For me, that's a validation of.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
He's holding it together, like he's doing well, you see.
And I feel like she says, like, don't worry about him.
He's fine, he's holding it together, he's being sensible and
just kind of like getting his shit together. Right, He's
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doing well, so don't worry about him too much.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
He's not. Not only is.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
He doing good, but he's actually getting better and better.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So let him free out of the out of your
head that something you know is wrong, not thing's wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Pretty cool dude, Pretty cool dude.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yes. Ye, a very tough year. So it's good to
hear that he's.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Back on track. Yeah, yeah, he's back on track. Good,
he's most Definitely you're stay in London. Is this temporary
because I feel it's not forever?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yes, it is temporary?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Perfect? How long?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That's a good question that would you like to know?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah? I would love to know actually if you could
tell me. So, I currently have a visa until January. Okay,
I would love to stay another year or two. Okay,
I'm not ready to leave just yet, but I don't
see London being my forever home either.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, it isn't, but not in a bad way. You
see what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, take it all in.
I really do see you a little bit more than January.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
So I don't know if it's I don't know about
like visas or whatever or anything, but I feel that
you can stay longer.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Okay, that's great.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, And I feel London for you.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Is it's like an adjustment to who you are, kind
of like you know who you are, but you didn't
know who you were in this scenario. Kind you know,
So take a little bit of this, take a little
(29:30):
bit of that, and it's going to form your character,
like you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, London, that's how you felt that.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, London's very much that type of city for me
that I moved.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
So I always wanted to live abroad and I moved
to Spain, but I felt like Spain at the time
when I was there, I was I was twenty two,
twenty three.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You know, it's a little different. I wasn't as mature.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
I was wanting to party more and I was lacking
that sense of grounding that London has really brought me absolutely,
And also just the people you meet in London and
the things you learn about yourself and the things that
you think you miss but you actually don't miss.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
And the things that you crave in life.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
London's been really really balanced for me in that regard
that I know I can go back to Spain or
back to wherever and have that bit of me exists.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
That totally makes sense, Like you go back to the
same place where you work, but you're going to live
it differently because you have new tools of life, you
have a lot of discoveries and now it's maybe you're
not going to get depressed in Spain, or maybe you're
not gonna it's going to be a whole other ticket.
That is exactly what you feel, that is exactly what
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London is for you. So I don't see where you're going.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
After this this.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's probably because it's going to be up to you
and it's a surprise, I guess, or something like that.
I can't tell you, but you will stay longer and
it'll be great for you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Okay, great, that's super validating. So I'm trying to figure
out how I'm going to Yes, Jesus.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I know, but I do feel I cannot believe this.
I do feel like it's going to be easy for you.
I was gonna ask you if you have any questions.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Any advice maybe for visa stuff and what I should
be working towards.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You're working right now, so.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I'm working as a content creator right now.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Okay, that's okay. Something about let me see if this
makes sense for you. Something about like.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
A work plan where you're asking London to let you
stay so you can do like a one year featuring
London stuff or something like that. That would be a
great approach because that would help them and it would
help you keep yourself there. Maybe you can open up
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another you know, another channel or whatever. It doesn't have
to be in your personal one. And also I don't
know if you have a lawyer. If you don't, but
it shows me like there's a lot of options. You
just have to have somebody that actually knows Okay, like
we don't know what the hell you know? But I
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feel like somebody that really really knows, like the laws
over there, be careful, like you know, somebody that really
is from there, and that can give you like another perspective.
And I'm sure you're going to find like one or
two that are going to super fit. But I do
see you like running around London creating content about things
(32:51):
I feel, and if you want me to be more specific,
I don't know what contact content you produce, but it
shows me like, well, places to visit. Not food, okay,
but more like little maybe like a little ice cream
place and nobody knows about, or maybe like a little
waffle place something like that. But like the trendy your
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like your shots or whatever it is. I see it
very trendy. Okay, so people will be like, wow, maybe
it's like a little small place. You make it trendy
with your okay, you know cut or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, so that's those are the two things that Okay,
that just says, yeah, what else?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
What else?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Any other questions? Oh my goodness?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Okay, So the visa one was a big one. This
might be a little personal, but whatever, I might as
well go for it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well I have you here, go for it. In terms
of I.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Think a lot of people will understand this that like
when you get older, family dynamics change and they continue
to change and things become more complicated. And my grandparents
are both getting older, and with that comes challenges in
terms of how it affects you know, me and my
siblings and me and my cousins and my uncle and
my mom and everyone. So if there's any advice or
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things to keep in mind and how I should best
navigate the changing dynamics, I think that would be really helpful.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Right now, right away, I'm going to tell you that
I think this is your grandma saying this. She's like
you guys, like I feel cousins and you are Santa's
little helpers, okay, and your parents and all that are
the ones that have to put everything together. Not you,
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not anybody, but you assist.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You help, like, oh we need to you know, buy
buy them clothes that are warmer.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Oh you okay, you go to the store, you buy
the clothes, you send them over. That's like you tell
me what to do and I'll do it. Okay, you don't,
but don't tell me to figure it out because I'm
it's not supposed to be me figuring it out. Okay,
it's supposed to be mom, brothers.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So, And it's not about being mean, and it's not
something that you're doing bad. It's kind of like the
natural thing and what God wants. It aligns with God wants.
It's always being good to them, yes, being there for them, yes,
but not being in charge of them, which is what
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your mom did. That's why she you know, that's why
she was like, I'm so sorry that you had to
do all that, you know, because she knows that up there,
they told her it wasn't your mom's responsibility.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yet she did it, yes, and good.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
For her, but this time around, like, it is very
important for your family to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Not your problem, got it your grandparents, I know.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
But yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
If you have contact with your cousins or something, if sometime,
some someday will come well where you can maybe say this.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
To them, you know, yeah, that would be nice.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
But you know, I know, yeah, that's okay. Yeah, I'm
so glad. Well, our time is up. It was my
really fast. I loved so much.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You agreed, it was great.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
It was great. Thank you Thank you so much, Fortnica.
I know you live in London. It's a whole it's
a whole thing. But thank you for being on ghost Therapy.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
And this was a lot of fun, a lot of
good validating information.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm ready to take on the day good fun. I'll
call my mom now.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
And let her know every Please tell her everything we
talked about because I think it's going to make even
more sense to her.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Okay, thank you so much of the wo
She's showing me a lot of dresses.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Do you know why that is so funny that you
say that, because.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We were literally just my grandmama was just saying the
story the other day.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Welcome to ghost therapy, where it's not just about connecting
with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and
their new perspective. Hi, guys, welcome to ghost therapy. This
is Pa. Thank you for joining us one more week.
(00:35):
This time around, we had a session with Vedo Iglesias.
This was so special because she talked to her grandmother
and it was not a normal story because that grandmother
had Alzheimer's disease and Vito was the one that took
care of her and it was very hard on her,
and the grandma really wanted to say thank you, really
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wanted her to know that she knew she was there,
she knew she was taking care of her.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But it was so special for her to receive.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
That simple thank you, you know, because she couldn't have
received it any other way. And it was very, very
thoughtful and very kind of the grandmother to do that.
And also a little surprise along the way, one of
her mascots from when she was little appeared and that
(01:30):
was a big surprise too. I hope you enjoy it.
This is GHOS therapy with sad. Thank you so much.
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay. The first thing I feel is a sense of them.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I don't know if it's a lawyer, Picky, you're gonna
tell me based on what I tell you. I feel
a sense of like being lost, kind of. I feel disoriented,
and I feel like going about a little bit with
life not knowing what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
My great grandmother had Alzheimer's.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
That's what it is. Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I think we have a Lloyd with us, which is awesome. Okay,
thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Let me see what she's saying. She's laughing because she's.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Like you guys, Oh, she's like I understood more than
you know, or I understood more than you thought.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And she's laughing.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And something about the eyes I don't know, like maybe
she rolled her eyes or something like that, but she's like,
you know, I know, I know, And she's very happy.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
She's she's sparkling.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
What can I say, And she's very thankful because she's like,
you did the right thing and you guys. I think
I feel like there's like some sense of like you
(03:18):
would want to say, you would need her approval about
what happened like.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Before her death.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, something that you know, she needs to tell you
that she approves that it was okay, and she's actually
thankful because I know she knows that it was out
of love.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That it does make sense.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So there was just a lot of things I think
going on in the family dynamic. My great grandmother was
a bit of a matriarch, I would say, and there
were just a lot of decisions that were being made.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Obviously, when someone.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Has Alzheimer's and they live alone and you know, people
don't necessarily know how to take care of them necessarily,
there was a.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Lot of.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Just like family dynamic issues that kind of arise from
that and decisions that need to be made of she
knows she needs to live in an apartment, she can't
live with her daughter anymore. They need to have people
taking care of her, and kind of everything that happens
with someone passing away but passing away slowly.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I wasn't as involved.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Because I was a teenager at the time, but I
know that's something that my mom would probably really appreciate
to hear.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm so glad.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I'm so glad because sometimes these messages maybe I'm telling
them to you, but yeah, the whole family may need
to hear it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
She's like, don't worry.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Everything you did was correct, thank you for doing it,
and nothing but thankful.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
She's nothing but thankful. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Does it make sense that she's pushing a man away?
Did she was she divorced?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
No, she wasn't divorced.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
But I think with all marriage at a certain age.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I don't know that much about their marriage necessarily. I
do know a lot of stories about them living together
and about you know, when she would sun down in
her Alzheimer's she would always be like mad at him,
like where is he? And he had passed away years before,
so things like that, where it's like did he leave
the house, where is he?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
When is he coming back?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Like just I think, you know, those old traditional relationships
probably something along the.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Lines that you hate each other, but you have to
stay together for the kids, the grandkids and the yeah
and everybody else. Right, She's like, she laughed because I
think it's funny to her because I don't know if
like for her, the best thing about alzheimer or something
was like, you know, he was pushed away like oh yeah,
(05:57):
no problems, and you know she hadn't. She like her
problems went half. You know, we're parted in the middle.
Hold on, hold on? What was what was your great
great grandfrother great grandfather's name?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Max Media?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I know, Okay, she wants.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
To talk about you something like a little bit more personal.
She's like, don't tell everything. I don't know if this
is to your mother or if it's like to everybody,
but she's like, be very careful with what you tell people.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, so the energy doesn't come kind of.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Because when were excited about something, we always tell oh,
I guess why. She's like you you you have to
be very quiet.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I know this is so hard for me. I try,
I try. It's so hard. Every day is something happening.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I've always want to tell someone and people and my
mom and all my friends and do the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And it's you do lose energy the more pain it.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Does, know, Yeah, and it's yeah, and it don't worry
about it because it's not about like because they wish
you ill like like, it's not about like, because your
mom will always be happy for you.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
It's just like, keep it in, keep it in, because
I feel like a lot of things have kind of
rolled out of control because of that, and we need
to keep it tight and we need to keep it inside.
And she's like, scream into a pillow or whatever you want,
(07:40):
just tell no one got even your shadow.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Okay, okay, got it?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Okay, great, great, Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
She wants to talk about you.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
For your beauty and your intelligence to join forces, right,
and she's like, there's something you have to do or
you have to create that is about your beauty that
makes you makes my then you make money off of
your beauty.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It does make sense. I do to like content creation.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh okay, and you're on it right, You're yeah, you
are the star. Okay, perfect. Then maybe it's a validation
more than a so well if you already do it. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The thing is I started doing it about maybe like
six months ago, so it is.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Very fresh for me, and I have I was a
I'm trained as a lawyer, so I've always been very
academic and I have several masters and several degrees, and
to go from that to then just kind of people's
perception is posting videos of me doing makeup on the internet.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's something I kind of struggle with right to deal
with that.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I am a very intelligent, academic person, but I also
enjoy glamming up and doing my hair and doing my makeup,
and trying to connect the two has been an internal
kind of daily struggle.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I would say, oh, definitely, definitely, I totally understand. I
think what she's and this is something that she's telling
you to do, but it's not exactly like she's telling
you exactly what to do. But if you are a
content creator, then I feel like your intelligence is what's
gonna your that you can do something besides the makeup
(09:37):
thing that makes it, you know, if you're a lawyer
or anything, something about use your two best you know,
assets and make contact content with that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So it's not something that we have to come up
with right now.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's just something that she's suggesting, and I don't know,
maybe give u uh tips of you know, something about
like if you've got a ticket or something you no,
you know, I'm just being stupid, but you know what
I mean, like something that you could use.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's like a pretty lawyer.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
What you know, there's not a lot of those out there,
you know, something like that, but you got to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's not something for now.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
But she would really like that because she thinks very
highly of you, of like what you said, of your
academic abilities, of who you are, of how you've you know,
gotten about your career. So she's proud of it, and she.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
She doesn't mind the content like maybe like your struggle.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
On the other like she's way on the other side,
she's like, that's great, Google, Okay, okay, perfect, here we golloy.
There's something that she wants to validate about your mother,
something of out never saying goodbye, and I'm assuming it's
because of the Alzheimer like in something that your mom
(11:05):
is like, when did I lose her that I couldn't
tell her everything, you know, And she's like, tell her,
I already know what she wanted to tell me. Tell
me that I read her mind and I know what
she feels. Don't worry about it. And also she wants
to be to say thank you because I feel like
your mom something about her home being a.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Just off, like not attending to her home because of
your yeah, right, and it was your mom that happened
right now, your grandma, it was your mom, And so
she was very thankful for that because she's like, it
wasn't her job, it wasn't her you know, it wasn't
her place, you know, And she took on a responsibility
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that not many people would have to taken on.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yes, mom, My mom pretty much took care of my
great grandmother throughout the end of her life. And my
mom had three little kids and would go to her
to go see we call her Aweila. Would go see
Awaila every day and would be at the doctor's appointments.
My grandparents, so my great grandmother's daughter would go to
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the Bahamas for like two months in the summer, and
my mom would take whole responsibility of being at the
hospital because obviously whenever the someone leaves, they have to
end up in the hospital. My mom would be there
all day, all night talking with the ladies who took
care of her because she had some nurses that were there.
My mom pretty much held a pretty big percentage of
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the responsibility while having three little kids, while working, while
having a husband, which you know, the marriage probably didn't help,
so that didn't work out for her.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So I think there was a lot that she sacrificed
and that she took on that she didn't have to.
She's so thankful for that, so so thankful. She's she
shows like somebody juggling, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I was this gay. She's very very
thankful for that. Also, she's showing me a lot of dresses.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Do you know why that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is so funny that you say that, because.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We were literally just my grandma.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Mom was just saying the story the other day because
I'm noting about Cubans.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
But Cubans can be intense, is the best adjective I
could use.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I lived in Miami for many years, I know, so
my angry grandmother when I was a classic like Cuban grandmother,
and she was obsessed with the way she looked, and
she was obsessed.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
With being skinny.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Okay, even though Cubans are never that skinny, so I know,
but whatever, she was obsessed with it just beyond So
when my great grandmother got Alzheimer's, she was sundowning, so
she started eating, like at night, a lot of food
and snacking a lot of food.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And obviously you gain a lot of weight when that happens.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
So, my mom, as we just said, was so involved
in my great grandmother's every aspect of her life. She
would go and buy her dresses from like Ross or Marshals,
like something cheap but like cute, like a lot of yeah,
me thought that she could wear. And of course when
my grandmother, my grandmother started gaining weight, my mom had
to buy bigger sizes.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And my grandmother saw the dress and goes, what size
is this?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
What do you mean you bought it for fourteen? I've
only ever been an eight in my entire life. You
must return these, okay, they need to be returned immediately.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I'm not wearing that.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't want anything to do with it. And my
mom would lie to her. My mom would be like,
no ah, waita they run small, Like I promise, just
try it on. She's like no, no, no, no return it.
So my mom would then go leave the house and
she would cut the tags so that she couldn't see
the sizes and that bring them back, and then my
grandmother would be like, when I'm out of yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The same dress. Yes, that's so crazy, that's crazy. She's
probably she's probably right now being like, now I know
what you did?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know, you said in the beginning, like I knew
more than you guys think.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
And now she knows even more.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
She's like when they get up there, like they show
them everything that happened that they especially the Alzheimer's. You
know that what everybody did for you and you didn't notice,
you know. But she must be laughing about that. That's
a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I love it. Tell your mom.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I will tell her mom.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
There's something about money. I feel like she's kind of
excusing herself.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Hold on, hold on, let me get this right, something
about I'm sorry I spent the money.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It's like it was back back then, like not before
she died, something about there there was she had her money,
not saying like a lot ing thing, but and she
said it was it was all going to be like divided.
And at the end, there's something about she feels remorseful
(16:46):
that she spent it. But I don't know if maybe
your mom knows more about this than you. But she
says I'm so sorry. She's like, I'm sorry I spent it,
and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
She laughs. She's like I had the intentions, but it
didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Interesting yeah, my mom might know more about the financial
stuff of things.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
She might yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, And I'm not saying like, you know this big
inheritance or anything, but there's something that that she was
meant to.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It was meant for maybe your mom, but at the
end she spent it. So she just goes like this
like I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But yeah, that may maybe that makes sense for your
mom a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I know we talked about your career right now, and
I don't want to seem like I'm repeating what you've said,
but she wants you to know that whatever is happening
right now, I feel like there's a change. And she's like,
you are where you where you're.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Supposed to be, okay, And do you have a boyfriend
or are you married.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Or and I know I'm single. I've been seeing someone,
but not boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Okay, okay, okay, because she wants but she's like, whoever
he is, you're where you're supposed to be, and you're
learning whatever you're supposed to learn. You see what I'm saying.
If he yeah, and I feel like he's a very
good guy. I feel like he's a good guy. I
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feel like he's different from other maybe cultures you know,
or something about culture you know, about how they are,
or like one in a million kind of thing in
his culture. And she's like, learn be happy and don't
stop worrying about what you're doing, what's going to come next,
(18:43):
what it's like live the moment. You're fine, you're exploring,
you're doing, and that's more than enough. Okay, Okay, then yes, okay,
she's validating cool, cool, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And she feels like.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
What like whatever she could say to you would be
there's so many more things that are going to happen,
everything will change, so might as well enjoy the ride.
It doesn't matter. Kind of like where you're going right now,
it's more about what you're exploring, what you're learning, and
then we'll worry about the worst.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, okay, awesome did Peaky Peky was a dog? Right?
I had chog chalk headhog, but she was kind of
like a dog.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Okay, it would call I called her Head's dog.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's so funny. I like, because let me see if
it's if it's her.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
But something about don't feel guilty about leaving me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Well?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
It does, but there is also another dog who could
become Okay, I don't know if Luna might make sense.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Luna Luna, Okay, it's something about her energy is very
very Grandma energy.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So she's like she's like, I know that everybody had
to live their life or had to move on. She's like,
I knew that, and I never felt abandoned, and I
was so proud of everybody moving on because that's what
you're supposed to do and not stay behind because of me.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Does this make sense for Luna?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It doesn't make sense for Luna. Yeah. So okay, s
already get emotional, but.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No problem.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So Luna was my she like basically like my childhood dog,
and we were like attached at the hip, like she
was my dog. But then of course you go off
to college and I moved abroad and I never lived
at home after pretty much I was eighteen, like I
would be in Miami for the summers. But besides that,
(21:07):
and Luna was always like on my mind and it
was very difficult to not be with her and to
kind of leave her. And then of course, like she
grew up, she was like a box her dog that
grew up in a house with I had two older brothers,
and we were always around, and I was always home
and I was always playing with her, and I would
sleep in the bed together. And then we all went
(21:29):
away and she was there with my mom and there
were buddies to the end. But it went from being
a very full house to being a very quiet one, right,
And so I think I always had a little bit
of guilt of guilt.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, no, No, she was so happy that everybody because
that's what life like. She's fully under understanding that it
had to be what it had to be, and she
was just it was just an honor for her to
just be part of your family, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And she was happy, she said, She's like, I was
always happy. You thought that you abandoned me, but I
was always happy. I had a house, I had food.
I was fine.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I missed you, but it wasn't It wasn't about me
feeling any anything bad towards anybody in the house. Okay,
So you needed, I think you needed to know that. Yeah,
and she's fine, she's perfect. Was there something wrong with
one of her legs.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, she she was a mess.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
She had this like disgusting I'm sorry now, but it
was disgusting.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It was this like massive cyst.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
It looked like a tumor, but it was like huge,
and it took up her whole like anyone like it
was honestly the size of a baseball hanging off the
side of her leg, and it was like it.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Wasn't I make eye contact wish. And it caused us
a lot of issues towards the end because not only
like medically it wasn't that big of a problematically, but
it was just so ugly and it would bleed and
it would scap and things would have happened to it,
and we didn't know how to make I got tact
with it and we were all like.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's so gross.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
And she was such a beautiful dog that we're like
doing all this really doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Brilliant, poor loona. Oh my god. Okay, I think she's
just laughing, not boring.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
She's laughing about it, like do you remember, you know,
the good old days of the big old ball. I
guess she just wants you to know that there's no
ball in heaven God. And she's freedom, she's rad of
walk and she's rid of bet Without that, She's like,
it's so much fun up here.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I'm so happy. You know, that was just my body,
but I'm a very happy soul.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Good that makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, completely.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, because I think the dogs.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I think with the animals, there's so much unconditional love
there that I think a lot of my guilt came
from you. Anyone who owns a dog knows that that
dog gives you unconditional love every day of their life,
and you sometimes wonder what do I give to them?
Like where do I give them? So I think that's
kind of where a lot of that guilt comes from.
(24:26):
So it is very validating to hear these things completely.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Wait, do you have children? It gifts, We're gone, they're guilt.
It never stops. It's a whole other type of guilt.
And now you have like two guilts to the work
and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, so it gets
wors don't worry about it. But yeah, I understand. I
understand what you mean. Like we give maybe not like
(24:51):
thirty percent of what they give us, but that's what
we think.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
They see things different and they're happy no matter what.
So she was very happy with you guys, very very happy,
especially like the playing thing and everything. She she like, that's
what she remembers, that's what stuck the playing.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What are the names of.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Your two brothers, Max and Jaffa?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Would I be correct to say that Max tolerates nothing?
Is like very yes, okay, okay, perfect. She's like, you
know what, that's who he is. Take it or leave it.
Don't expect any changes. Don't expect any sudden like I've
(25:46):
changed forever kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It's like, always keep in mind and I'm sure you
do nothing bad. But she's like, always keep in mind
that that's his personality. He doesn't mean any thing bad.
And when he hurts feelings, he doesn't actually or necessarily
(26:09):
know how much.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
He hurts feelings.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Okay, okay, So to just give him a little grace
because that's what his story is. Yeah, it's not yours,
it's his. That makes sense, And just a little grace
for him would be wonderful.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
And for Rafa, Rafa.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Is living far away from you, right, yes, yes, where
is Rafa?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Naffa's in Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Phoenix, okay, and you areware in London, London, London.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Rapha does very well for himself, I feel does that
make sense.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
He struggles in his own ways, but he's a very
fulfilled person internally.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Oh yeah, that's awesome. Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I feel like he's very and they show him It
doesn't necessarily mean that he wears a suit, but they
show him in a suit.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
For me, that's a validation of.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
He's holding it together, like he's doing well, you see.
And I feel like she says, like, don't worry about him.
He's fine, he's holding it together, he's being sensible and
just kind of like getting his shit together. Right, He's
(27:39):
doing well, so don't worry about him too much.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
He's not. Not only is.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
He doing good, but he's actually getting better and better.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So let him free out of the out of your
head that something you know is wrong, not thing's wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Pretty cool dude, Pretty cool dude.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yes. Ye, a very tough year. So it's good to
hear that he's.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Back on track. Yeah, yeah, he's back on track. Good,
he's most Definitely you're stay in London. Is this temporary
because I feel it's not forever?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yes, it is temporary?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Perfect? How long?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That's a good question that would you like to know?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah? I would love to know actually if you could
tell me. So, I currently have a visa until January. Okay,
I would love to stay another year or two. Okay,
I'm not ready to leave just yet, but I don't
see London being my forever home either.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, it isn't, but not in a bad way. You
see what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, take it all in.
I really do see you a little bit more than January.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
So I don't know if it's I don't know about
like visas or whatever or anything, but I feel that
you can stay longer.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Okay, that's great.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, And I feel London for you.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Is it's like an adjustment to who you are, kind
of like you know who you are, but you didn't
know who you were in this scenario. Kind you know,
So take a little bit of this, take a little
(29:30):
bit of that, and it's going to form your character,
like you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, London, that's how you felt that.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, London's very much that type of city for me
that I moved.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
So I always wanted to live abroad and I moved
to Spain, but I felt like Spain at the time
when I was there, I was I was twenty two,
twenty three.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You know, it's a little different. I wasn't as mature.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
I was wanting to party more and I was lacking
that sense of grounding that London has really brought me absolutely,
And also just the people you meet in London and
the things you learn about yourself and the things that
you think you miss but you actually don't miss.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
And the things that you crave in life.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
London's been really really balanced for me in that regard
that I know I can go back to Spain or
back to wherever and have that bit of me exists.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
That totally makes sense, Like you go back to the
same place where you work, but you're going to live
it differently because you have new tools of life, you
have a lot of discoveries and now it's maybe you're
not going to get depressed in Spain, or maybe you're
not gonna it's going to be a whole other ticket.
That is exactly what you feel, that is exactly what
(30:43):
London is for you. So I don't see where you're going.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
After this this.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's probably because it's going to be up to you
and it's a surprise, I guess, or something like that.
I can't tell you, but you will stay longer and
it'll be great for you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Okay, great, that's super validating. So I'm trying to figure
out how I'm going to Yes, Jesus.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I know, but I do feel I cannot believe this.
I do feel like it's going to be easy for you.
I was gonna ask you if you have any questions.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Any advice maybe for visa stuff and what I should
be working towards.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You're working right now, so.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I'm working as a content creator right now.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Okay, that's okay. Something about let me see if this
makes sense for you. Something about like.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
A work plan where you're asking London to let you
stay so you can do like a one year featuring
London stuff or something like that. That would be a
great approach because that would help them and it would
help you keep yourself there. Maybe you can open up
(32:03):
another you know, another channel or whatever. It doesn't have
to be in your personal one. And also I don't
know if you have a lawyer. If you don't, but
it shows me like there's a lot of options. You
just have to have somebody that actually knows Okay, like
we don't know what the hell you know? But I
(32:24):
feel like somebody that really really knows, like the laws
over there, be careful, like you know, somebody that really
is from there, and that can give you like another perspective.
And I'm sure you're going to find like one or
two that are going to super fit. But I do
see you like running around London creating content about things
(32:51):
I feel, and if you want me to be more specific,
I don't know what contact content you produce, but it
shows me like, well, places to visit. Not food, okay,
but more like little maybe like a little ice cream
place and nobody knows about, or maybe like a little
waffle place something like that. But like the trendy your
(33:16):
like your shots or whatever it is. I see it
very trendy. Okay, so people will be like, wow, maybe
it's like a little small place. You make it trendy
with your okay, you know cut or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, so that's those are the two things that Okay,
that just says, yeah, what else?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
What else?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Any other questions? Oh my goodness?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Okay, So the visa one was a big one. This
might be a little personal, but whatever, I might as
well go for it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well I have you here, go for it. In terms
of I.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Think a lot of people will understand this that like
when you get older, family dynamics change and they continue
to change and things become more complicated. And my grandparents
are both getting older, and with that comes challenges in
terms of how it affects you know, me and my
siblings and me and my cousins and my uncle and
my mom and everyone. So if there's any advice or
(34:12):
things to keep in mind and how I should best
navigate the changing dynamics, I think that would be really helpful.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Right now, right away, I'm going to tell you that
I think this is your grandma saying this. She's like
you guys, like I feel cousins and you are Santa's
little helpers, okay, and your parents and all that are
the ones that have to put everything together. Not you,
(34:42):
not anybody, but you assist.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You help, like, oh we need to you know, buy
buy them clothes that are warmer.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Oh you okay, you go to the store, you buy
the clothes, you send them over. That's like you tell
me what to do and I'll do it. Okay, you don't,
but don't tell me to figure it out because I'm
it's not supposed to be me figuring it out. Okay,
it's supposed to be mom, brothers.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So, And it's not about being mean, and it's not
something that you're doing bad. It's kind of like the
natural thing and what God wants. It aligns with God wants.
It's always being good to them, yes, being there for them, yes,
but not being in charge of them, which is what
(35:31):
your mom did. That's why she you know, that's why
she was like, I'm so sorry that you had to
do all that, you know, because she knows that up there,
they told her it wasn't your mom's responsibility.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yet she did it, yes, and good.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
For her, but this time around, like, it is very
important for your family to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Not your problem, got it your grandparents, I know.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
But yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
If you have contact with your cousins or something, if sometime,
some someday will come well where you can maybe say this.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
To them, you know, yeah, that would be nice.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
But you know, I know, yeah, that's okay. Yeah, I'm
so glad. Well, our time is up. It was my
really fast. I loved so much.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You agreed, it was great.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
It was great. Thank you Thank you so much, Fortnica.
I know you live in London. It's a whole it's
a whole thing. But thank you for being on ghost Therapy.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
And this was a lot of fun, a lot of
good validating information.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm ready to take on the day good fun. I'll
call my mom now.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
And let her know every Please tell her everything we
talked about because I think it's going to make even
more sense to her.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Okay, thank you so much of the wo
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