June 23, 2025 • 68 mins
Roz braces herself for torrents of razzle-dazzle as she welcomes her dear friend, the LEGENDARY drag queen Jackie Beat! Calling upon the ghosts of Hollywood blondes, the two discuss Jean Harlow’s cursed home, Marilyn Monroe’s favorite haunts, and the psychic powers of Mae West!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky
and jooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Ims nandas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Please Hey boo, it's me Rose and welcome to Ghosted
by ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people
that I like about the baron normal. Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
One of my.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Dearest is on the show, the legendary Jackie beat. If
you don't know who that is, look her up. She's uh,
she's one of a kind, that's for sure, legendary drag queen.
She's been doing it longer than I've been alive, and
(01:06):
she's very good at it, and she's very funny. We
have a good time. I think you'll enjoy it. Hey,
let me read you a ghost story because just a warning,
you ain't gonna get any more of those out of Jackie.
This is Jackie's what is it third time maybe that
she's been on this podcast over the years, and she's
(01:27):
been very she's been very good to us in the
ghost department. But I think we have squeezed that well dry.
We have milked that cow till there are no more
drops of milk coming out that are ghost related. Yes,
I did just call her a cow. Okay, here we go.
(01:50):
This one's from Colin. Colin writes, Hi, lovely Rose, love
you love the show. Ah, here's my ghost story and
under five minutes or less. Okay, I'm starting the timer
and here we go. In university, I worked at our
theater department's assistant technical director. The theater building is the
(02:12):
oldest building on campus, built around nineteen ten, and it
has this gorgeous one hundred and seventy four see theater
with a Victorian lobby space and faux marble pillars lining
the sides of the house and stage. Okay, are you
trying to talk dirty to me? This is like, ugh,
(02:35):
my favorite thing to hear about Victorian theater, marble, faux marble. Okay,
here we go. Over the summer, the building was locked
and the only staff with keys where me and my boss,
the technical director, who was on vacation at the time.
One day, I was in my office when I heard
(02:55):
singing coming from the theater. I walked down the hall
to towards the door that led backstage, and sure enough
I heard a woman singing scales or arpeggios on the stage.
I opened the door, and the singing stopped. The theater
was completely black, but I didn't hear anyone run away.
(03:19):
We don't use a ghost light because it's an end
stage theater, so there's no drop off at the edge
of the stage. Oh okay, so there's no fear of
somebody accidentally whoa like you ever see that time Kelsey
Grammer fell off of a stage. I think he was
at one of the Disney parks. That's a good one.
(03:41):
So that doesn't happen at this one. Okay. Being spooked,
I decided I was leaving for the day. As I
headed back to my office, the singing resumed. I really
had to pee. The only bathroom on the floor was
in the theater's green room, across the stage, where a
ghost was just singing. I decided to be brave and
(04:04):
I booked it back down the hall, opened the door
and pulled it closed behind me, making sure the latch locked.
I jogged across the dark stage, using my phone flashlight
to find the door to the green room. I felt
like I was being watched the whole time. I quickly
(04:24):
went into the bathroom and closed the door. As I
was doing my business, I heard footsteps approach the bathroom
door and stand there outside waiting for me again. The
whole building was closed for the summer, my boss was
on vacation, and the theater was especially super locked up.
(04:45):
No one could have been standing on the other side
of the door. After a few minutes, I heard three
footsteps back away from the door. I quickly finished up
through the door open and ran into the lobby and
out the main door. The green room was pretty big,
so three steps could only put you in the middle
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of the room. Whatever was there was watching me as
I fled. Later on, I was doing some research on
the building to see if there were any reports of hauntings,
and apparently in nineteen fifteen, the theater partially burned down
and three bodies were recovered, two firemen and one unidentified woman.
(05:28):
Was the woman the singing I heard. Did the ghost
of a fireman try to cruise me? Should I have
let him in? Oh? My god? Well, thank you Colin
for sending that. It's very possible. It also could have
been one of the firemen singing, and it sounded like
(05:51):
a lady. I do believe that the ghost was cruising you.
I think you should go for it next time. I
don't know why not. You know it's a good story.
Uh send that one in next. Uh, that's great. This
is wonderful. I love this. I've been getting some great
(06:11):
stories coming in and I appreciate anytime somebody takes the
time to write a story and send it to me.
So thank you. You know, I love a theater story,
I love a I love anything on the job kind
of a story. Those are those are great? As always,
you know you just email ghosted by ros at gmail
dot com. You write it all nice and as and
(06:33):
as Culin had mentioned there five minutes or less. You know, roughly,
I'm not actually gonna time you, but roughly roughly the
good parts. Colin did it right. Yeah, keep them coming
on in. I'm on tour rozhardatistour dot com. Oh my god,
we've added some new ones. We've added Seattle, We've added Richmond.
(06:56):
I mean, I'm going all over the place. Baby. We're
getting close to fifty dates I'm doing the next few months.
So please tell everyone you know and come see me. Okay,
here we go. It's my conversation once again with Jackie
beat and with the show. I am joined by a
(07:27):
woman I found in Reno at a slot machine. At
least that's what it appears. Jackie beat Oh wow, Well
Jackie currently has on razzle dazzle shades and a Betty White.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Wig, Benny White adjacent Benny White adjacent, like she got
caught in a rainstorm.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, you sort of are giving that with with a
puss zuzu shirt on a zuzu.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Let me tell you. When I was driving here, you know,
I had the air conditioning on and it was a
little chili. So I was setting it and when I
said it, I can't help it. Think of the year
movies come out. I set it to seventy three, which
makes me think of nineteen seventy three, which of course
is the year The Exorcist came out.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh my god, it was meant to be.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It was meant to be.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It was pasusu, pazuzu. That's from the Heretic.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Oh my god, I love the Sertic.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, the second one. See now that one. We just
recently covered the Exorcist curse. You know, the alleged curse.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Oh, the curse the movie made you know, fifty years ago.
Everyone in it is dead. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, but a lot of them died, like when they
were filming and like around then. But it does seem
like the publicist and freakin' William freaking was like, let's
tell people that you know, it was cursed.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I feel like maybe William was freaking out about the
possibility of the movie not doing well at the box office.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I love that his last name is freakin' freaking well
fed Ken.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
When I first moved to Los Angeles and I was
working at Sunset Gower Studios at Sunset and Gower, God,
they really named that studio. They come up with that anyway,
somebody I was working with was like, oh, yeah, Bill
Friedkin always used to Billy Friedkin used to say, and
I'd be like, Billy Friedkin. She's like, that's what people
call him.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I thought it was just so like you know, the
freed can I know, Well, you're here because.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You somebody canceled.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
No, you're here because you told me you have an
incredible ghost story.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I do.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I know you think that's a setup because this is
my third time on the show, and we actually on
the phone the other day because we are friends, ladies
and gentlemen, full disclosure, friends in italics, friends in quotes.
It's Hollywood. I told you that, you know, I don't
have any ghost stories left. Well, I lied. I've been
holding onto the best. Are you serious, the major ghost
(10:15):
story that happened maybe a year ago. What?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yes, Okay, this is baffling to me. First of all,
let's recap. We have heard the story now, Jackie's been
on twice now over the years.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We heard.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
My favorite one was you told the first time you
were on. You were on with Sherry years ago, and
you told the story of the time that Satan herself
visited you after you went through a breakup. Yes, that
story is so good.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Tried to seduce me the most gorgeous blueprint of my lust.
I probably used that phrase when I told it the
first time. Stunning, right out of gay porn, Satan.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And because you were sad, you painted all your walls black. Yes,
And then you woke up in the middle of the
night and there was this hooved, cloven hoofs cloven hooved,
clovened mmm.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But he was hot, he was fine, he was fine, girl,
and don't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And he was looking at you like, are we gonna
do it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It was kind of telepathically, are we going to do this?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And I said no, that would have been your opportunity
to become an A List superstar.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And now I'm here talking to you for the third time.
Z List.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You should have said yes, I know, but you did it.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No. I literally closed my eyes and said no, no, no,
no no, and then I opened my eyes and the
cloven hoofs were gone.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's such a good story.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We also heard the time you had to share dream
with your mother, which was real good. We've heard the
time you saw UFO as a kid. Yes, a gay
pride again. Oh yeah, Rainbow We literally.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Had rainbow like tail to it or like lights. It
was crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What else have we heard from you? Some other bullshit
you have made up?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Out when I was staying at a hotel in San
Francisco and I asked my mom for a sign and
the TV popped on.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yes, that was the Vertigo Hotel, I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yes, they filmed a scene and it wasn't called that
at the time, but they somebody bought it and then
turned it into a boutique hotel and decided to cash
in on the fact that Vertigo had been filmed there.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And then I also remember one time you telling a
story about when you were on tour with Dita Bontie.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Oh yes, and there was a oh and also there
was a ghost. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
DTA love you, babe, but you said that it was
a haunted hotel in Australia and everybody there.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh girl. We drove up and I was like, this
literally is right out of the shining. I was like
getting such a vibe and the look of it. Everything
was just weird. We were all texting on a group
WhatsApp and I said I was taking a bath and
the lights went off, and then somebody said I was
sitting here and my closet door opened and closed, and
(13:17):
then everybody was chiming in, Oh my god, this just happened.
And Dita was like, stop it. Now, I need a
good night's sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I can't hear that stuff if I have to sleep there.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So now, what girl, what did they makeup? I've been
saving it. I was doing a show where I think
it might have been like somewhere in Indiana, which is
already like okay, this is scary, you know, and the
venue was old and kind of strange and just had
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the vibe. You could kind of feel it in the air.
But I have to say I didn't get enough sleep.
I felt a little off. Sometimes that is the best
show because you're not overthinking everything and you're a little loopy.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's why people get drunk. You and I don't drink. No,
but that's why people drink a bunch before they perform,
because it's similar to that state.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I feel right, But I just this was not going
in that direction, like, oh, the not sleeping is making
for a good show. I felt very off. The audience
just felt very low energy, and I remember near the
end of the show. This was not just like one ghost.
(14:31):
This was like several because when the show ended, I
distinctly heard boo. The audience was booing because it was
a bad show. Get it wasn't a ghost at all.
Ros come on, used to be fun, Roz Jackie, I
(14:55):
know dad jokes from Grandma.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
This is like when you lie in your resume. Yeah,
you've lied on your resume to get on this podcast.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Special skills, Yeah, telling jokes, horseback riding.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I thought you had a ghost story ice skating. It's okay,
you don't need one because I did some preparation.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
H Was it that problem you were telling me about.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I told you that in confidence. Oh, I'm very confident
about the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I'm confident it'll never go away from the way you
described it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
This is an episode, yes, about the ghosts of Hollywood blondes.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Hence the wig I'm wearing.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I did tell you bring blonde hair.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You did? You said, are you going to do drag?
I said, are you paying me? You said no. I
screamed no. I slammed down the phone, And here we are.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We are paying you very handsomely.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I know, in non vegan protein bars in the green room.
Get it? Why did you say any instead of Ernie?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So Jackie loves to say something shady and then briskly
change the subject by going any way. And then I
one time said that if you were a drag king,
your drag name would be Ernie Way.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And that's why you are at the top of your game, lady.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And that's why they give me the big bucks.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And all those non vegan protein bars.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay, let's talk about some Hollywood bloonde.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Come on, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Okay, I'm curious. Maybe you know some maybe you know
about some of these stories. You famously do work a
lot with the Hollywood blonde Cherry Bene, I do, I do,
but these we're getting even than Cherry Vine. We're gonna
talk about Gene Harlowe.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I wasn't alive at the time. I assume you were
going to make a joke regarding that. Now now, Jean Harlowe,
Uh huh, oh, what an ethereal beauty? I mean, just
like a glow, a golden glow about her.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I'll be honest with you. That's not someone whose work
I know.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
A lot of me either. I'm just talking about do
people like do I know?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I feel like, is she known for movies?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I mean, you know, I'm old. You know that I
am a platinum gay, and I usually know all that stuff. Obviously,
I know of Jean Harlowe and I can picture her.
And what I just described is like, you know, photos
I've seen of her, but I can't really remember, you know,
any movies, which is I feel bad. We're probably gonna
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get haunted by her right now, I know. I mean
there's other jeans, Mom jeans, Mom jeans, skinny jeans, good jeans. Oh,
I was blessed with as you can see, I was
blessed with good jeans.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
But Jean Harlow Gene Hackman.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Don't start. I almost set the air conditioner to seventy two,
which is beside adventure. Gene Hackman played the hip turtleneck
wearing priest or minister on the ship who was having
a little question of faith, especially when the ship turned over.
You know, that'll do it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That'll do it, that'll do it, okay, So Jean Harlow, Yes,
this is something that I have heard about this story
many times over the years, because there's like a Manson connection,
So Jean Harlow. Many people say that the house that
she lived in was cursed. It's known as the Harlow
(18:54):
burn House because she was married to MGM producer Paul
Byrne in the late twenties and thirties and the two
of them briefly owned this really cool house. And as
far as I know, it's like Benedict Canyon area, which
they say is cursed.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
They say that whole area is Manson territory exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, okay, So Paul Burne shot himself in the hud
at least that's what the official police report. Yes, many
speculate it was murder. Also, apparently two other people died
in their swimming pool.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Let me ask you a quick question. Yeah, did what
was Paul Byrne? He was a director or something.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
He was a producer.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay, so he's MGM, a successful producer at MGM. Did
you say he was married to Jean Harlowe. I don't
think that's the I mean she was gorgeous, Like, why
are you gonna? Why are you gonna unlive yourself? Why?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
People in Hollywood, you know, never have problems.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, I mean that's true, but who knows. But I'm
just saying men back then had a lot of power,
and if he had a lot of money, let's say
that the relationship wasn't great, he could just dump her for,
you know, a newer model. So it just seemed strange
that he I think it was murder.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I need jack Columbo on the case.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I get it. That was Jackie plus Colombo the young
Please google Columbu.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I love Colombo. Okay, So so here's the Manson connection.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Okay, Jay C.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Bring the house.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Famed hairstylist, famed hairstylists to the male stars.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
That's always an interesting point.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, he also did Sharon Tate's hair, right, He also
did Sharon Tate for the brief period. Yes, and he was.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
He was known for doing men's hair. He like, really
was revolution the men's.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Fidel says soon of men.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right. Yes, So he bought the house in nineteen sixty
three and he lived there for a few years with
Sharon Tate when the two of them dated, And the
story goes, and this is all stuff I got off
of Haunted houses dot com.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Thanks for the shout out.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So the story goes that one night Sharon Tate was
staying there alone. She was trying to sleep. She turned
the lights on because she kept hearing scary noises. Then
a little man quote scuttled into the room, ignoring her,
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looking for something. She recognized him as Paul Byrne. She
ran out of the room and saw an entity on
the stairs, tied to the post with its throat slashed.
She ran to the bar in the house to get
herself a drink. She got an urge to start ripping
the wallpaper along the base of the bar. She went
(22:03):
back to the bedroom and passed out. She assumed it
was a bad dream until she noticed the torn up wallpaper.
The next day she really experienced it. The current owners
say they haven't had anything creepy happen.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Do you know why I love that story? It is
so specific and so weird, and like, if you were
gonna make up a story, girl, that would not be it. No,
do you know what I mean? No? I know it
has everything. Sharon Tate, scuttling, scuttling, I need a drink,
a mediamon, and then like the destroying of wallpaper. Yeah,
(22:43):
it's scary.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's scary.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Let's try to keep it up beat.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We're not putting anything up beat.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's not that kind of a podcast, dear.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Also, I should mention, while we're on the Sharon Tate,
there is that place that I have been before, the
Omen House. Yes, the house that a man owns next
to the Manson murder home location that he says is
haunted by Sharon Tate. And one time I did go
to Sharon Tate's birthday party there, and as I was leaving,
(23:20):
he said, Sharon's telling me I need to flip over
the patties and he went out to the patio because
the burgers were burning.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well, first of all, I appreciate that Sharon would go
to the trouble of haunting the next door neighbor.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, not even next door a couple.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, And I love that She's like, girl, do not
overcook that meat.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do not overcook the meat. Okay. So Jean Harlow's second
house in Westwood, she lived in that one for four years.
So I guess when she married Paul Byrne, her parents
lived in this house. But apparently she haunts this house.
So this Westwood one, there was a family that moved
in in nineteen seventy. The day before moving in the
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woman of the family went upstairs and her dogs were barking. No,
those seventy shoes. They weren't comfortable, nor her actual dogs
were barking at an unseen presence. She says she heard
a voice say, please help me. The first night that
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they stayed in this home, their bed was struck three
times by a heavy force.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
About it was what did they have for dinner? So stupid?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well, the kitchen lights would go on and off. They
heard a woman sobbing in their living room. There were
cold spots and winds. Okay, I'm like, that's good from academy.
Oh my god, that's great. The husband and wife both
(25:08):
had a dream of the bathroom overflowing with water and bubbles.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I didn't even even I think this is like new
homeowner nightmares.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, listen to this. They they both had this dream
that they're taking a bath. It's overflowing with water and bubbles,
and then a hand reaches out to the nearby light
switch and gets electrocuted, and then they both like wake up.
So they call an electrician, who was amazed by how
out of date the light switch by the bathtub was,
(25:41):
and they replaced it because they're like this, this is
like a premonition, like you're going to get electrocuted. Right, So,
I don't know, that's kind of interesting that both the
husband and wife had the same dream. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Well, I also appreciate that it had a good ending,
like it was a warning. Yeah, oh thank god we
called the electrician. Yeah, because you usually think of like,
you know, having the same dream or a ghost story
as something negative, but it was like, hey, this electricity
is old. Call an electrician immediately.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You're gonna get zap honey.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So another Hollywood blonde that we of course have to
talk about is Maryland. Now you put a D on
the end Maryland. Yes, you're right, I did. Maryland. Yeah,
I say Maryland because that's a state. Yes, it is Maryland.
Maryland Monroe, Marilynn Okay, so Marylyn Montre, Montro, Maryland Mondrou
(26:47):
she is the most booked ghost in the afterlife. She
has never stopped working. Oh she is everywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Booked and blessed.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So apparently the home that she died and people see
her wandering the gardens and they hear whispering in their ears.
There's this girl who's a Marilyn impersonator named Jasmine Chiswell,
and I think we covered her a couple of years
ago because she was like kind of getting publicity. Okay,
so this woman, she's a Maryland impersonator, like she like
(27:21):
fully like lives her life looking like Marilyn Monroe. Happy birthday,
Yes to you. She moved into that house, Oh of
course she did. And she was like making videos saying that,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Where did she get the money? Like this is someone
I've never even heard of, and buying Marilyn Monroe's the
place where she died. That's expensive.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I didn't ask, but I believe she wasn't alone. So
she made videos saying that people would feel hugged from
nobody and they would hear voices and footsteps, so it
must be Marilyn.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Give me a mary lug. How Maryland, I'm trying to
get haunted today. Why not Marilyn will show up like
it's not Maryland. Great.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I would love that She'll just hug you.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Because she I'm weird.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's my Maryland.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Oh my god, that's so bad.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well I'm not a Marilyn Monroe impersonator.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Neither am I. But I can still do it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
No, you can't.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I tried.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That was Varla Jeane Merman.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Who I've been working with lately.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I'm Merri moua. That's good. That's what she sounds like.
Give me something to say with Marilyn Monroe knows it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Give a girl a break. I haven't had solid food
in three days.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Get a kid a break.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Food. Can I tell you that story?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Okay, what is it? Years ago? We used to go
to Rage every night. We even got an apartment up
the street from Rage so we could walk there. The
gay nightclub that is no longer.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Now it's called Beeches Trapicana.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It was called Heart for a brief period. I think
that was a shameless money grab that failed spectacularly. Anyway,
we used to go all the time. This is in
the like eighties and after that, we would go to
a restaurant called The Greenery and you know, have a
bite to eat. And there was this older, sweaty, really
(29:31):
bad Marilyn Monroe drag queen and it was packed and
the waiter was walking by and she was trying to
flag him down, and she would look at us like ah,
and then she tried to flag him. She was like
really performative. And at one point she turns to us
and she's like, what's a girl got to do to
get some flapjacks around here? And she was a little pudgy.
(29:53):
She was a little pudgy, and one of us said,
I think you need to slow down on those flapjacks, Marylyn,
and she goes, give a girl break, I haven't had
solid food in three days, diarrhea. Who was she did?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
She just like live like that all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I have no idea, but you know what it's like.
The makeup was all clammy and it was bad, smelling
like clams. It does not equal clammy. No, it was
kind of like out of a movie, you know, like,
oh my god, it's like a scene out of After Hours.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's what I would imagine. You come to Los Angeles,
you see someone dressed like a Marilyn Monroe impersonator trying
to get flapjacks. That feels very la in a movie.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Also, you know she ate from around here flapjacks. We
don't call them flapjacks on the West coast. That person
was from Salina, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Oh interesting, Yeah, I guess it's pank. I don't eat
like that.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, okay, marylynd CA.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Here's where else Marilyn is. She's also at the Rosabelt
Hotel of course. Of course, of course she poses on
the diving board because that's where she did a toothpaste ad,
which was her first ever print ad. So apparently now
she's still there doing the toothpaste ad. People see her.
She would often stay in a cabana room which is
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still there, and they're like, ooh, it's the Maryland Suite.
And I actually have been in there before. I went
to someone's birthday party in there one time, and there
was a mirror in there that she would look into
that is haunted by her. At one point it was
in the hotel and another point it was in the
manager's office. A maid said that she saw quote a
(31:39):
sad looking blonde looking into it. While she was cleaning it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, now there's no fair Sherry Vine was having her
house fumigated and had to stay for a few days.
Sad looking blonde, Well.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
There's no no word if the maid was a sad
looking blonde woman herself, because I mean, if it's a
mirror and you're Katie Guys.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I would also like to think that maybe the manager
was like, uh, why are there streaks all over this mirror?
The ghost? Oh, you just blame everything on the ghost. Well.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Also, it's like the Hollywood Roosevelt had a publicist in
the nineties that was into the ghost thing. Because I
feel like growing up being into Los Angeles and being
into ghost stuff, it was always the Hollywood Roosevelt like,
and it was always the mirror and the Marilyn Monroe
and all of that. They also say, what's his name?
(32:36):
Haunts it?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh? I was trying to think of something funny.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I actually don't actor. Actor? That really narrows it down.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you, fifties sixties he was gay.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But tab hunter, no.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Rockhead, close warmer, suddenly last summer.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh Montgomery Cliff, Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Cliff, he plays as his trombone or his trumpet.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Oh, I bet he plays the trombone. Probably had a
private suite.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You play that trombone extra roasty.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You do it better than me. That is so good
people don't even know.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, So also let's see here, can I.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Say one thing about Montgomery Cliff please? He was so gorgeous.
And then if you watch Suddenly Last Summer, which have
you seen it, it is so bonkers and I love
it so much. But this was after his car accident,
so he had facial reconstruction, and he knows he doesn't
look like his old beautiful self. So the entire movie
(33:55):
has like he's always apologizing with his eyes, like I know,
I'm so I don't look like the old me.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
His grandson some kids, no, nephew, I don't know. One
of his descendants made a documentary a couple of years
ago about him, using like his actual like recordings of
him speaking and stuff, and he like kind of clears
up a lot of stuff about him. It's really interesting
(34:25):
because I think a lot of people thought that he
was like really miserable and whatever, but he like wasn't.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Well, you know, there is this like misconception that gay
people were so miserable back in the day, and there's
been a few really amazing documentaries. Don't ask for any
of their names. Yeah, but that are like now the
complete opposite. We had a whole community and everybody was
like having a great time. I mean the only difference was, like,
(34:52):
you know, you couldn't be completely open about it and
walk down the street holding your boyfriend's hand, right, But
like people were actually happy, and there were say spaces,
and that's why they went to Palm Springs and you know,
Fire Island and Provincetown. That's all. I just want the
kids to know.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No, that's good. I think they should know. They should
also know that Marilyn Monroe's also with the Santa Monica Pear.
What now, that's just some tourists. Shit, there's no way
she's at the stand. It says that they see her
sitting on a bench about the hippodrome.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Excuse me. Okay, I know she was a size fourteen,
but that is old school body shaming. Let me tell
you something. Somebody who worked there was like, attendance is down. Yeah.
I have an idea, yeah, totally, the ghost of Maryland Monroe.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Oh my god, I need to do that for my
next show.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, be like a ghost.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Will appear Marilyn Marylynd haunts my Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Also they say the Westwood Memory Real Cemetery where she's
born or sorry, where she's Perry, where she's buried. People
see a pink colored mist.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
That sounds more like Jane Mansfield.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well, she liked pink too, I guess. And she turns
into a mist there. I don't know. I don't know
why that would happen, but whatever. They also see her
at the Knickerbacker in Hollywood, Knickerbocker Hotel. She hangs out
at the bar there, you know, the rooftop that's where
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the seances.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wini's wife Who's.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Wife used to do seances to contact him.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I know she has a name, and I hate saying
she's gonna haunt us, Harrietta. Was it really no, my
God to do what I fell for it? Yeah, Harrietta,
I know that their.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Secret Her name was Jeanie Genie.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Oh dear, No. You know there's a Kate Bush song
and it's called Houdini and it's all about trying. They said,
when I die, we will have a secret phrase.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Apparently he never did it.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And the phrase was Rosabell believe. I think it was
what Rosa Bell believe, or maybe it was just I'll
call you Rosa Bell. And anyway, it's in the Kate
Bush song Houdini, which is genius. The cover of the
album is her kissing a guy who's dressed like Houdini,
but you just see him from the back, and she's
got a little key on her tongue because he used
(37:36):
to kiss his wife before he did the escape routine,
and she would pass a key to him through a
kiss and then he'd be in there and take it
out of his mouth and unlock.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh so you're gonna ruin us.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We just talked about the Masked Magician. Do you remember
that guy?
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Uh? I know, the unknown comic.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
No maskedician, look at me when you said that.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Not the unfunny comic. It's getting so listen.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
We're not even done with Maryland's don't do It?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Shut Up? Can you tell him obsessed with her? Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah? A shout out shout out to Luscio's mousacre love her? Okay,
so also Marilyn Monroe. They there's a mirror at the
El Capitan Theater, which is right next door to the
Hollywood Roosevelt. So this girl is just looking in mirrors
left and right, right next door. And in twenty twenty two,
you remember, there was that like kind of controversial Netflix
(38:37):
movie called Blonde. Oh god it was I didn't I
didn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
It was horrible.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But the actress Anna de Armas, she said that at
the Venice Film Festival premiere the movie. She said that
Maryland's ghost haunted the set. She said, quote, I think
she was. She was happy. She would also throw things
off the wall sometimes and get mad if she didn't
(39:04):
like something.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Okay, so she's literally everywhere.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
She's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I mean, she's getting around more than when she was
alive and she got around. That was slut shaming, and
I apologize.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
May West, Helly May West rules.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh my god, She's everything.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I love May West, So May West. According to a
website called Bizarre Los Angeles, she haunts the Ravenswood apartments
in Los Angeles. Do you know where that is? It's
like mid Cities, It's like I feel like that's like
Hancock Parky sort of area. She lived and died in
(39:47):
the upper floors in nineteen eighty and she even allegedly
told friends that as long as the building stands, she's
gonna be there. Okay, oh, as long as the boulden style.
I'm so good. Imprecious, you're bad. As long as the
building styles local.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
As long as the building stands, honey, that was better.
That was like me doing Alaska doing. Let me just
say one thing. I love that she said, as long
as the building stands, because I mean, don't you know
how hauntings work. You know, the building doesn't need to
be there. They could, like, you know, tear it down
and put up in Arby's. And she's like, do you
really want to order that? Honey?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
You want curl of Froz with that.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
The seasoned?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Why did she talk like that? I'm happy to see people?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
How many years later I know I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Happy she did.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So here's an excerpt from her interview with an author
John Coebel for his book called People Will Talk. She says,
you know, sometimes I just lie down in a semi
dark room and I see crowds, individuals coming in like
(41:06):
a montage. What do I sound like?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
She says?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Now, I'm a very normal, healthy person. I don't imagine things.
So when I see things and hear voices. I know
there's something that exists around us.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
This is the worst Snatch Game episode ever. No, I
love that she was kind of into the occult.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
No, she was. She was very into psychics. So she says,
over the years, I developed my psychic powers. Everything was
a thought before it was created. This table, this vase,
they were thoughts before we made them. But I really
didn't get involved in ESP until I met Thomas Kelly
(41:52):
in nineteen forty one. He was a famous Quaker mystic.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
And do you know that Lady Bunny's parents are Quakers?
No joke, I'm not even joking because you think I'm
going to make a joke like that's why she looks
like the Quaker oats guy out of drag or something.
I'm not even kidding. But let me just say one thing.
I actually got emotional when you read the part that
said everything was a thought. This table, it's such a
(42:18):
simple I'm not even kidding you. And how old I am,
and I've never really thought of something that simple.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Well, that's part of why I like ugly things so much.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Is she just winked at me.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Is because like things that other people you conventionally would
say are ugly. It's like that is someone's vision. It
was someone's vision, and that to me sometimes I look
at like an ugly piece of art or like I
don't know, some old antique and I'm like someone thought
that they that that was like beautiful they took the
(42:52):
time to make. And I do think about that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
It's also subjective.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I mean there's peoplelely and I don't think that it is.
I don't look at it that way at all.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I mean I used to joke, this is how old
the joke is. If if Janice Joplin was on and
thank god she's not a blonde, or she would be
the subject you know part of today's podcast.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Didn't you stay in the room?
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I think it was the room. I know I stayed
there at the Highland Gardens, Yeah, that hotel. But here's
my point, Like if she was on American Idol, they
would be like, girl, run a comb through your hair,
you're a bit pitchy, dog, lose twenty pounds, do you
know what I mean? Like she's one of the most
amazing iconic voices, just like we were talking about with
(43:39):
may West, Like you know, anything that kind of strays
from who cares about a perfect singing voice? Who cares?
I mean, a beautiful voice is great, but give me
some emotion, give me Chrissy Hind. I listened to Chrissy
Hind of the Pretenders, and sometimes I'm like, I would
never have thought. And I'm a singer, I never would
have thought to sing it like that? And is that
(44:00):
actually the right note? She's kind of like right under it,
But it really pulls at your heart strings. I know
it's turning into like Hallmark, but yeah, no, yeah, I
agree with you. And people are starved for reality, real reality,
not like reality TV authenticity or originality. Yeah, and even flaws.
(44:23):
That's why have you ever done a show?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's why I like you.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Thank you, And people you know come up after the
show and they're like, oh, my favorite part is when
you totally fucked up, and I'm like, really, thanks a lot.
But then I think about it and it's like we're
craving that we want something real, real, not ai heh.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
So she goes on to say that the forces for
good and evil were coming in. I could hear psychic
voices and see people all the time, and they kept
me awake at night. If you told this to people
about hearing voices, They think you were mad or something.
Now I know I must have always had these voices
(45:02):
telling me things. You see, they helped me several times
when I was really in a problem and I didn't
know how to get out of it, Like the court
case I had. I was being sued for one hundred
thousand dollars and I knew I was innocent, but I
didn't know how to handle the case. I was lying
in my bed when suddenly this voice comes to me,
(45:23):
very beautiful, deep man's voice, speaking in an old English accent,
with the and dows. That was the way he was speaking.
And this was in nineteen forty eight, and I knew
I had heard that voice before, back in nineteen forty one.
I had always remembered it because it was very distinguishable.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Who was it?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I guess you're never gonna know.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
She went out to say that the spirit voice told
her what to say in court, helping her to win
the case.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Oh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
After it was over, I wanted to know for myself
what kind of person that voice belonged to. I asked
the dictionary about it, and I opened it up when
it said clergy, So I know it was a man
from the clergy, you know, back in the eighteenth or
nineteenth century. I think she could have just filled in
the blanks. So I have this book. You know how
(46:17):
I collect these things.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
I'm just so sorry. Think about how scary it would
be to be sued for one hundred thousand dollars back
in the forties.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Five million dollars or something.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Oh that's not then, but that would be a lot
for you. Huh girl, I'm just kidding. Okay, So you
know how I collect these old books. Yes, this is
what I have called I Believe in Ghosts, And it's
a celebrity book. And it says, as told and recounted
by Danton Walker. What year is this? This is nineteen.
(46:54):
I believe it's the sixties. Nineteen fifty six.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Oh my god, that's forty years before the sixties.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Oh my, guys, five years after you were born. So
there is a chapter where she talks about her it's
called may West's Spirit Friends. Oh, she's filled with them.
So she was really into.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
May West's spirit legal advisors.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yes, there's also a story about Ida Lapino and burl
Ives Okay, and Guthrie mclin tick and nol Coward. I've
heard of that one.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
You've heard of Noel Coward?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah for cool?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
That one cool?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
But I don't know who Guthrie mcclinkle.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
No, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Okay, should we do please?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
I took an improv class, so just yes.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
And I took an improv cluster in the pandemic with
a really better connection, so I can do like half
like I can.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
You can only do yes.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
No, I can ask for a suggestion from the audience.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Oh okay, and that's it. Well, here's the thing. Even
if it cuts out, it's always going to be a gynecologist.
Uh yeah, because the audience thinks they're being funny.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Jackie. Yes, I got a haunted doll for you, like
physically now, Oh God, just act like you. Listen to
this fucking podcast. Every single week we feature a haunted
doll from eBay. It's time for the dolls are living? Okay,
(48:33):
So I go to eBay dot com. I type in
haunted doll. I search through hundreds of listings till I
find one that is just right, this one. I've never
found one more right for a guest ever. Jackie, you're
gonna think that I made this up. This ghost is
going for thirty four dollars and thirty cents or best offer.
(48:59):
The ghosts is side this doll. The doll's name is
Jackie jeeha show is Jackie?
Speaker 3 (49:07):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Raz I did not make this up, Jackie speechless.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Well, it kind of looks like me after a date.
The smeared lipstick. I don't have blue eyes, but I
am bald.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I just so you know, Jackie, that's not a mirror
that you're looking at. That's a screen. Uh oh uh oh,
the blond wigs coming off.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Wait wait, hold on, where's my camera? Ready? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, So what we're looking at here is a bald,
feminine doll that does not have any eyebrows, smeared lipstick,
blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
I do wear that color as eyeshadow her eyeballs. Yeah,
but can we look at picture three. She's got a waste,
so that kind of shoots it down. She's heightweight to
proportion it.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, you would never. You would never wear that outfit either.
That's she's very Victorian. Well she comes with a bio. Okay,
it says the person selling this wrote I received her
through a friend who collects vintage toys, someone who doesn't
usually deal with spirit vessels, and they felt uneasy with
(50:31):
her quote. She doesn't scare me, my friend admitted, But
I feel like she's sad, like she doesn't belong with me.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I'm sorry. Of all the pictures, that is the creepiest
just lighting.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Well, they did take a picture where they made the
lighting spooky, which is very important when you're trying to
sell these I think you need to make them look
a little scary, it says. The moment I held Jackie's vessel,
I understood her energy was dis subtle, but layered, carrying
the weight of something deeply personal. She wasn't restless, she
(51:10):
wasn't angry. She was just waiting for the right person,
for someone who could understand. Jackie was young when she passed,
like in her early twenties around nineteen eighty. She carries
the vibrant yet fragile energy of a girl just beginning
to understand herself. Through deep meditation. I've received flashes of
(51:32):
her past. I get the feeling she spent much of
her time on the outside, looking in, searching for acceptance
in a world that didn't always offer it. I sense
that she was part of the LGBTQ community, perhaps questioning,
perhaps certain, but never fully embraced. Whether she kept this
part of herself a secret or faced rejection for it.
(51:55):
The energy around her speaks of a quiet battle. She
doesn't seek. She doesn't even seem mad most of the time,
but there's a longing in her energy, a need to
be recognized, to be seen. So some of the things
she does unexplained. Music comes out of her, cold breezes,
object shifting, dream communication, electronics, acting up you know.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Wow, Yeah, I like the lgbt Q plus pandering part. Yeah,
that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I mean, yeah, she definitely is uh messed up. Well,
she's like in a dress and she's sort of just
based on her makeup and hair.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Can we she feels I imagine like if we bought her,
what we might hear? A disembodied voice? Can I do
an impersonation? Please? There's my vague there's mad ivy.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Oh that's how you think she would talk.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, and she's like somebody stole her wig right before
like a major event or function. She has never been
the same.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
See, that's what's interesting about It's almost as if she
did have a wig, because you know how usually with
a doll. It comes out of your head.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
There's no plug.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
There are no plug.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
She didn't go to turkey.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
She didn't go to turkey.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
That was the bird, not like some Middle Eastern I
just did my turkey.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I can't even do a fucking turkey.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
God, what is going on with you?
Speaker 1 (53:40):
I am not known for my impressions.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
That's why you are obsessed with celebrity impersonators. You really
can't do it. Let's guess we're both vegans. We shouldn't
be mockery. That is so bad.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
That is bad. What is wrong with that poor turkey?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
That's all right, But I'm good. I have other talents, yes,
be jeweling boots and mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Going to YouTube and finding ghost recordings.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
It's time for EVP.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Or ev plase.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
These actually creep me out, you know they do.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Fun fun. Well, these are two from a YouTube channel
called the Space Coast Paranormal Society.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Okay, really rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
I don't know where these locations are. Doesn't necessarily say,
but they are two evp's, and I want you to
guess what this ghost is saying.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I'm scared, Jackie.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Here's the first one.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Okay, do it again. Oh my gosh, it's very hard
to hear. Are you in the dark?
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Are you in the dark in? That's not what they believe.
Did they think it was a your drama girl? Okay,
B you want this to work? C you don't have
to worry? Or D you said this wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
It's either B or D because I thought it was
are you in the dark and work and hurt? Sound
more like that to me, So I really think that
they are usual sometimes more innocuous. You want this to work?
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Well, they think it was C you don't have to worry? Again?
Oh yeah, now I hear it, Green Needle. I think
it could be you don't have to work, like them
being like, you don't have to work? What are your parents?
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Do?
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Have you had a husband? Like that's what it sounds like. Listen,
you don't have to work. But they think it's you
don't have to work.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Maybe it's the ghost like what are you doing here
with this recording device? Don't don't you have to work?
Speaker 1 (56:29):
I love ghosts, like throwing shade at ghosts. Hunters love that.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
But do you know those things where you listen to
it and whatever you're reading, like Green needle. You've never
seen that one?
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Oh, and it will say and those are so scary,
they're so weird.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
It just goes to show you that reality, like we
really are in the matrix.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
What you're talking about is like you see a video
that will pop up in your algorithm or whatever, and
it's like, whichever one you read, it will say out loud, that's.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
What you will hear. Yes, yeah, yeah, there is.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I just remember green needle. Yeah, yeah, what is the other?
Speaker 3 (57:05):
I don't even remember the others, but green needle is
such a specific substance. The substance green needle. Okay, let's
do this.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Here's another one. I don't know the location, but what
is it saying?
Speaker 3 (57:17):
Terrified? Oh my god? Okay, give me the choices.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Did they think it was a let's not say we did, okay,
I know you do.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Did they think it was B stop I'm not here,
which is a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
That's a movie title, A twenty four honey?
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Do they think it was C it's that time a
year or D. That's not my finger.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
That's not my finger, that's what he said. That's not
my finger. This is.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
They believe it's base stop, I'm not here.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
It literally sounds like that's not my finger.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Though listen, let's listen for stop I'm not here.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
That sounds like there's a tail end like right now
or something stuff I'm not here right now.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Or.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
There's a little trail even on stop that's not my
or that's not my finger? Can you you know what
I mean, there's a little trail like there's another one
or two syllables after everything. We think it's.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
I think it's that's not my finger. But uh, it's
hilarious that it said stop I'm not here, Like that's
such a funny thing for a ghost, Like you're trying
to contact a ghost and they're like, stop, I'm not here.
I'm not home right now.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Oh it had an answering machine.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, that's funny to me.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Stop I'm not here is a really good title because
it's just such a strange phrase. Stop I'm not here.
Oh my god, I like it.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
Well, we need to stop and you need to not
be here because now the podcast is over.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
That's called a callback, Ladies and gentlemen, even though usually
there's more time in between.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
It's a quick one, a quick yeah.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Yeah, Well I have had a wonderful time Hey, I've had.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
A great time too. It's always nice to see it.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
It's always nice to see you.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
So what is going on? Where are you at? What
do people need to know?
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Well, I you know, you know this personally, I've been
taking a bit of a break and just kind of like,
you know, when you've done drag for thirty six years
and now it's like such a drag race world and
now it's almost a post drag race world. I don't
even think drag race has the power it used to.
And there's just so many you know, former contestants and
(01:00:10):
everybody's just vying for work and beat bop boop doodle dooce.
So I've just kind of like pulled back a little
bit and just haven't felt the need to work quite
as much. I've been writing for a lot of different people,
performers and you know otherwise. But now I'm kind of
getting the itch again because you know how much we
(01:00:33):
love drag even though I bitch and moan about it,
and I.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Know how much you have an itch, yeah, which you
do need to take care of.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
That's not my finger, cool back, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah, So just kind of like to take a break.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I'm just not feeling desperate. But then there is a
point where you're like, really that wig there is I
tried to have fun with you. There's a theme, and
some people are just like they won't even play with
the theme, or I think it's great. No, I just
I but you know, when you're not working, even though
(01:01:14):
I have been writing, and that's like, you know, I'm
sitting in bed in my underwear with my dogs in
the laptop, and then I just like, oh my god,
I just made like you know, kitching without having to
get all dulled up or leave town or whatever. But
nothing takes the place of live performances. And you know,
I'm used to like working a lot, and when you're
(01:01:35):
not getting money.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
It's not good for a here like that mighty to
be a capitalist, but like you need to work and
receive something like it doesn't have to be money, but
like some type of reward for if you have a
passion you know to do it and.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
To well you're thinking a lot more like I don't
know esoterically even then. I I was just meant, when
the money's not coming in, it's scary how quickly it
goes down because you're still having to pay all those bills,
and this is Los Angeles, and you know it's got
to pay the mortgage and the this and the that
and the car lease, and so you don't even think
about it when you're just working constantly. But Sherry Vine
(01:02:15):
and I do the Golden Girls Brunch. It's the fourth
Sunday of every month at Precinct and it is so fun.
I'm not kidding you. People wear calf hands, they dress
up like the characters. We have trivia. It's really super
fun and it's just me and Sherry. You know, sometimes
(01:02:37):
those drag brunches are like, you know, six girls, and
I mean, you know, God love them. They're doing death
drops and flip flopping all over the place. But this
is all live singing, and you know, it's really really,
really fun.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
You're not flip flopping, No, you're not wearing flip flops.
Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Of course I'm wearing flip flops.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Oh okay, my feet hurt. All right, yeah, plug one
more thing and then we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
If you need anyone to write anything for you, if
you have a project that already exists and you just
want it punched up with just a layer of jokes,
a sprinkling of jokes and the Sprinkles cupcakes of jokes.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Yeah, so you know the best in the biz. Well,
who's written for within your Joan Rivers?
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yes, within your budget. I wouldn't say I'm the best,
but yeah, Joan Rivers and some other people, a lot
of people. I've been fired by everyone in town. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
That's one thing I forgot to mention that you love me? Yes,
of course I love you. How many people say that
you and I are very similar people?
Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Oh yeah, you were telling you that the other night,
And at first I was like.
Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
What, Yeah, but we we're not. We are very similar
in terms of interests. We both saw the movie Carry
at a young age and it formed us. We both
like kookie glasses and over the top.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
We love artifice. We like camp. I always say one
of my mantras is have the courage to be camp. Yeah,
you know, like be on the red carpet dressed like
a swan, have everybody wondering is she serious? Like have fun.
Life is short. I'll never understand people who want less, less,
culture less, you know, different, Like they get mad because
(01:04:31):
somebody's speaking a different language. This is America. It's like, honey,
I want to try every food as long as it's vegan.
I want to, you know, listen to different music and
like that's why my drag, you know, I don't have
that signature. Lady Bunny is always that same silhouette, always
a blonde. Same with Sherry Varlajeene Merman's always a redhead.
(01:04:51):
Coco Peru or as I call her, old one wig,
you know, an outfit from cheekos and that wig. But
I'm like, one day I'm doing the girls look, then
I'm doing like the sixties. Then I'm doing like Satanic,
you know, Housewife, seventies, you know, then eighties, you know,
like gem and the Holograms. Like I get bored. I
want everything. I want more, more, more, And I think
(01:05:13):
you're the same, even though you have a signature look,
and that is good for branding.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah, but we like colors, oh we do. We like colors,
and we like flavor antiques. Oh, we love spooky things.
Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I'm a spooky antique. That's why you love me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yeah, and we like little dogs. Oh, little dogs are
back for both of us.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
That picture you sent me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Of my little Chucky, Oh my god, we both have
little white dogs.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Anyway, Well I'm sorry that this will be the last
time I see.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
You because you're gonna hit it big.
Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
No, I'm just I'm done. Oh it's been a jer
it's been exhausting, and I think it's time we end this.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Oh okay works for me.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah yeah, So we'll figure out a way to salvage this.
Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
This was damn good. All right, it was, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
That's not my finger? Yeah, sure. I love Jackie Feet.
Isn't she something? She's something, that's for sure. Ah, thank
you for listening. I will talk to you very soon.
Tell everyone you know about this podcast please, and you know,
(01:06:47):
see me on tour and stuff like that. Find me
on Instagram, all of that. I love you all, both
living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has been
an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience
(01:07:10):
on the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes
I'll even call you. So email me at ghosted by
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startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.
This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
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My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying
Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the
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What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky
and jooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Ims nandas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Please Hey boo, it's me Rose and welcome to Ghosted
by ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people
that I like about the baron normal. Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
One of my.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Dearest is on the show, the legendary Jackie beat. If
you don't know who that is, look her up. She's uh,
she's one of a kind, that's for sure, legendary drag queen.
She's been doing it longer than I've been alive, and
(01:06):
she's very good at it, and she's very funny. We
have a good time. I think you'll enjoy it. Hey,
let me read you a ghost story because just a warning,
you ain't gonna get any more of those out of Jackie.
This is Jackie's what is it third time maybe that
she's been on this podcast over the years, and she's
(01:27):
been very she's been very good to us in the
ghost department. But I think we have squeezed that well dry.
We have milked that cow till there are no more
drops of milk coming out that are ghost related. Yes,
I did just call her a cow. Okay, here we go.
(01:50):
This one's from Colin. Colin writes, Hi, lovely Rose, love
you love the show. Ah, here's my ghost story and
under five minutes or less. Okay, I'm starting the timer
and here we go. In university, I worked at our
theater department's assistant technical director. The theater building is the
(02:12):
oldest building on campus, built around nineteen ten, and it
has this gorgeous one hundred and seventy four see theater
with a Victorian lobby space and faux marble pillars lining
the sides of the house and stage. Okay, are you
trying to talk dirty to me? This is like, ugh,
(02:35):
my favorite thing to hear about Victorian theater, marble, faux marble. Okay,
here we go. Over the summer, the building was locked
and the only staff with keys where me and my boss,
the technical director, who was on vacation at the time.
One day, I was in my office when I heard
(02:55):
singing coming from the theater. I walked down the hall
to towards the door that led backstage, and sure enough
I heard a woman singing scales or arpeggios on the stage.
I opened the door, and the singing stopped. The theater
was completely black, but I didn't hear anyone run away.
(03:19):
We don't use a ghost light because it's an end
stage theater, so there's no drop off at the edge
of the stage. Oh okay, so there's no fear of
somebody accidentally whoa like you ever see that time Kelsey
Grammer fell off of a stage. I think he was
at one of the Disney parks. That's a good one.
(03:41):
So that doesn't happen at this one. Okay. Being spooked,
I decided I was leaving for the day. As I
headed back to my office, the singing resumed. I really
had to pee. The only bathroom on the floor was
in the theater's green room, across the stage, where a
ghost was just singing. I decided to be brave and
(04:04):
I booked it back down the hall, opened the door
and pulled it closed behind me, making sure the latch locked.
I jogged across the dark stage, using my phone flashlight
to find the door to the green room. I felt
like I was being watched the whole time. I quickly
(04:24):
went into the bathroom and closed the door. As I
was doing my business, I heard footsteps approach the bathroom
door and stand there outside waiting for me again. The
whole building was closed for the summer, my boss was
on vacation, and the theater was especially super locked up.
(04:45):
No one could have been standing on the other side
of the door. After a few minutes, I heard three
footsteps back away from the door. I quickly finished up
through the door open and ran into the lobby and
out the main door. The green room was pretty big,
so three steps could only put you in the middle
(05:06):
of the room. Whatever was there was watching me as
I fled. Later on, I was doing some research on
the building to see if there were any reports of hauntings,
and apparently in nineteen fifteen, the theater partially burned down
and three bodies were recovered, two firemen and one unidentified woman.
(05:28):
Was the woman the singing I heard. Did the ghost
of a fireman try to cruise me? Should I have
let him in? Oh? My god? Well, thank you Colin
for sending that. It's very possible. It also could have
been one of the firemen singing, and it sounded like
(05:51):
a lady. I do believe that the ghost was cruising you.
I think you should go for it next time. I
don't know why not. You know it's a good story.
Uh send that one in next. Uh, that's great. This
is wonderful. I love this. I've been getting some great
(06:11):
stories coming in and I appreciate anytime somebody takes the
time to write a story and send it to me.
So thank you. You know, I love a theater story,
I love a I love anything on the job kind
of a story. Those are those are great? As always,
you know you just email ghosted by ros at gmail
dot com. You write it all nice and as and
(06:33):
as Culin had mentioned there five minutes or less. You know, roughly,
I'm not actually gonna time you, but roughly roughly the
good parts. Colin did it right. Yeah, keep them coming
on in. I'm on tour rozhardatistour dot com. Oh my god,
we've added some new ones. We've added Seattle, We've added Richmond.
(06:56):
I mean, I'm going all over the place. Baby. We're
getting close to fifty dates I'm doing the next few months.
So please tell everyone you know and come see me. Okay,
here we go. It's my conversation once again with Jackie
beat and with the show. I am joined by a
(07:27):
woman I found in Reno at a slot machine. At
least that's what it appears. Jackie beat Oh wow, Well
Jackie currently has on razzle dazzle shades and a Betty White.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Wig, Benny White adjacent Benny White adjacent, like she got
caught in a rainstorm.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, you sort of are giving that with with a
puss zuzu shirt on a zuzu.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Let me tell you. When I was driving here, you know,
I had the air conditioning on and it was a
little chili. So I was setting it and when I
said it, I can't help it. Think of the year
movies come out. I set it to seventy three, which
makes me think of nineteen seventy three, which of course
is the year The Exorcist came out.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh my god, it was meant to be.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It was meant to be.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It was pasusu, pazuzu. That's from the Heretic.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Oh my god, I love the Sertic.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, the second one. See now that one. We just
recently covered the Exorcist curse. You know, the alleged curse.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Oh, the curse the movie made you know, fifty years ago.
Everyone in it is dead. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, but a lot of them died, like when they
were filming and like around then. But it does seem
like the publicist and freakin' William freaking was like, let's
tell people that you know, it was cursed.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I feel like maybe William was freaking out about the
possibility of the movie not doing well at the box office.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I love that his last name is freakin' freaking well
fed Ken.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
When I first moved to Los Angeles and I was
working at Sunset Gower Studios at Sunset and Gower, God,
they really named that studio. They come up with that anyway,
somebody I was working with was like, oh, yeah, Bill
Friedkin always used to Billy Friedkin used to say, and
I'd be like, Billy Friedkin. She's like, that's what people
call him.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I thought it was just so like you know, the
freed can I know, Well, you're here because.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You somebody canceled.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
No, you're here because you told me you have an
incredible ghost story.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I do.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I know you think that's a setup because this is
my third time on the show, and we actually on
the phone the other day because we are friends, ladies
and gentlemen, full disclosure, friends in italics, friends in quotes.
It's Hollywood. I told you that, you know, I don't
have any ghost stories left. Well, I lied. I've been
holding onto the best. Are you serious, the major ghost
(10:15):
story that happened maybe a year ago. What?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yes, Okay, this is baffling to me. First of all,
let's recap. We have heard the story now, Jackie's been
on twice now over the years.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We heard.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
My favorite one was you told the first time you
were on. You were on with Sherry years ago, and
you told the story of the time that Satan herself
visited you after you went through a breakup. Yes, that
story is so good.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Tried to seduce me the most gorgeous blueprint of my lust.
I probably used that phrase when I told it the
first time. Stunning, right out of gay porn, Satan.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And because you were sad, you painted all your walls black. Yes,
And then you woke up in the middle of the
night and there was this hooved, cloven hoofs cloven hooved,
clovened mmm.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But he was hot, he was fine, he was fine, girl,
and don't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And he was looking at you like, are we gonna
do it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It was kind of telepathically, are we going to do this?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And I said no, that would have been your opportunity
to become an A List superstar.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And now I'm here talking to you for the third time.
Z List.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You should have said yes, I know, but you did it.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No. I literally closed my eyes and said no, no, no,
no no, and then I opened my eyes and the
cloven hoofs were gone.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's such a good story.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We also heard the time you had to share dream
with your mother, which was real good. We've heard the
time you saw UFO as a kid. Yes, a gay
pride again. Oh yeah, Rainbow We literally.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Had rainbow like tail to it or like lights. It
was crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What else have we heard from you? Some other bullshit
you have made up?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Out when I was staying at a hotel in San
Francisco and I asked my mom for a sign and
the TV popped on.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yes, that was the Vertigo Hotel, I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yes, they filmed a scene and it wasn't called that
at the time, but they somebody bought it and then
turned it into a boutique hotel and decided to cash
in on the fact that Vertigo had been filmed there.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And then I also remember one time you telling a
story about when you were on tour with Dita Bontie.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Oh yes, and there was a oh and also there
was a ghost. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
DTA love you, babe, but you said that it was
a haunted hotel in Australia and everybody there.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh girl. We drove up and I was like, this
literally is right out of the shining. I was like
getting such a vibe and the look of it. Everything
was just weird. We were all texting on a group
WhatsApp and I said I was taking a bath and
the lights went off, and then somebody said I was
sitting here and my closet door opened and closed, and
(13:17):
then everybody was chiming in, Oh my god, this just happened.
And Dita was like, stop it. Now, I need a
good night's sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I can't hear that stuff if I have to sleep there.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So now, what girl, what did they makeup? I've been
saving it. I was doing a show where I think
it might have been like somewhere in Indiana, which is
already like okay, this is scary, you know, and the
venue was old and kind of strange and just had
(13:49):
the vibe. You could kind of feel it in the air.
But I have to say I didn't get enough sleep.
I felt a little off. Sometimes that is the best
show because you're not overthinking everything and you're a little loopy.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's why people get drunk. You and I don't drink. No,
but that's why people drink a bunch before they perform,
because it's similar to that state.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I feel right, But I just this was not going
in that direction, like, oh, the not sleeping is making
for a good show. I felt very off. The audience
just felt very low energy, and I remember near the
end of the show. This was not just like one ghost.
(14:31):
This was like several because when the show ended, I
distinctly heard boo. The audience was booing because it was
a bad show. Get it wasn't a ghost at all.
Ros come on, used to be fun, Roz Jackie, I
(14:55):
know dad jokes from Grandma.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
This is like when you lie in your resume. Yeah,
you've lied on your resume to get on this podcast.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Special skills, Yeah, telling jokes, horseback riding.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I thought you had a ghost story ice skating. It's okay,
you don't need one because I did some preparation.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
H Was it that problem you were telling me about.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I told you that in confidence. Oh, I'm very confident
about the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I'm confident it'll never go away from the way you
described it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
This is an episode, yes, about the ghosts of Hollywood blondes.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Hence the wig I'm wearing.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I did tell you bring blonde hair.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You did? You said, are you going to do drag?
I said, are you paying me? You said no. I
screamed no. I slammed down the phone, And here we are.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We are paying you very handsomely.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I know, in non vegan protein bars in the green room.
Get it? Why did you say any instead of Ernie?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So Jackie loves to say something shady and then briskly
change the subject by going any way. And then I
one time said that if you were a drag king,
your drag name would be Ernie Way.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And that's why you are at the top of your game, lady.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And that's why they give me the big bucks.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And all those non vegan protein bars.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay, let's talk about some Hollywood bloonde.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Come on, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Okay, I'm curious. Maybe you know some maybe you know
about some of these stories. You famously do work a
lot with the Hollywood blonde Cherry Bene, I do, I do,
but these we're getting even than Cherry Vine. We're gonna
talk about Gene Harlowe.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I wasn't alive at the time. I assume you were
going to make a joke regarding that. Now now, Jean Harlowe,
Uh huh, oh, what an ethereal beauty? I mean, just
like a glow, a golden glow about her.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I'll be honest with you. That's not someone whose work
I know.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
A lot of me either. I'm just talking about do
people like do I know?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I feel like, is she known for movies?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I mean, you know, I'm old. You know that I
am a platinum gay, and I usually know all that stuff. Obviously,
I know of Jean Harlowe and I can picture her.
And what I just described is like, you know, photos
I've seen of her, but I can't really remember, you know,
any movies, which is I feel bad. We're probably gonna
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get haunted by her right now, I know. I mean
there's other jeans, Mom jeans, Mom jeans, skinny jeans, good jeans. Oh,
I was blessed with as you can see, I was
blessed with good jeans.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
But Jean Harlow Gene Hackman.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Don't start. I almost set the air conditioner to seventy two,
which is beside adventure. Gene Hackman played the hip turtleneck
wearing priest or minister on the ship who was having
a little question of faith, especially when the ship turned over.
You know, that'll do it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That'll do it, that'll do it, okay, So Jean Harlow, Yes,
this is something that I have heard about this story
many times over the years, because there's like a Manson connection,
So Jean Harlow. Many people say that the house that
she lived in was cursed. It's known as the Harlow
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burn House because she was married to MGM producer Paul
Byrne in the late twenties and thirties and the two
of them briefly owned this really cool house. And as
far as I know, it's like Benedict Canyon area, which
they say is cursed.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
They say that whole area is Manson territory exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, okay, So Paul Burne shot himself in the hud
at least that's what the official police report. Yes, many
speculate it was murder. Also, apparently two other people died
in their swimming pool.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Let me ask you a quick question. Yeah, did what
was Paul Byrne? He was a director or something.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
He was a producer.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay, so he's MGM, a successful producer at MGM. Did
you say he was married to Jean Harlowe. I don't
think that's the I mean she was gorgeous, Like, why
are you gonna? Why are you gonna unlive yourself? Why?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
People in Hollywood, you know, never have problems.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, I mean that's true, but who knows. But I'm
just saying men back then had a lot of power,
and if he had a lot of money, let's say
that the relationship wasn't great, he could just dump her for,
you know, a newer model. So it just seemed strange
that he I think it was murder.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I need jack Columbo on the case.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I get it. That was Jackie plus Colombo the young
Please google Columbu.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I love Colombo. Okay, So so here's the Manson connection.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Okay, Jay C.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Bring the house.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Famed hairstylist, famed hairstylists to the male stars.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
That's always an interesting point.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, he also did Sharon Tate's hair, right, He also
did Sharon Tate for the brief period. Yes, and he was.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
He was known for doing men's hair. He like, really
was revolution the men's.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Fidel says soon of men.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right. Yes, So he bought the house in nineteen sixty
three and he lived there for a few years with
Sharon Tate when the two of them dated, And the
story goes, and this is all stuff I got off
of Haunted houses dot com.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Thanks for the shout out.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So the story goes that one night Sharon Tate was
staying there alone. She was trying to sleep. She turned
the lights on because she kept hearing scary noises. Then
a little man quote scuttled into the room, ignoring her,
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looking for something. She recognized him as Paul Byrne. She
ran out of the room and saw an entity on
the stairs, tied to the post with its throat slashed.
She ran to the bar in the house to get
herself a drink. She got an urge to start ripping
the wallpaper along the base of the bar. She went
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back to the bedroom and passed out. She assumed it
was a bad dream until she noticed the torn up wallpaper.
The next day she really experienced it. The current owners
say they haven't had anything creepy happen.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Do you know why I love that story? It is
so specific and so weird, and like, if you were
gonna make up a story, girl, that would not be it. No,
do you know what I mean? No? I know it
has everything. Sharon Tate, scuttling, scuttling, I need a drink,
a mediamon, and then like the destroying of wallpaper. Yeah,
(22:43):
it's scary.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's scary.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Let's try to keep it up beat.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We're not putting anything up beat.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's not that kind of a podcast, dear.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Also, I should mention, while we're on the Sharon Tate,
there is that place that I have been before, the
Omen House. Yes, the house that a man owns next
to the Manson murder home location that he says is
haunted by Sharon Tate. And one time I did go
to Sharon Tate's birthday party there, and as I was leaving,
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he said, Sharon's telling me I need to flip over
the patties and he went out to the patio because
the burgers were burning.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well, first of all, I appreciate that Sharon would go
to the trouble of haunting the next door neighbor.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, not even next door a couple.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, And I love that She's like, girl, do not
overcook that meat.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do not overcook the meat. Okay. So Jean Harlow's second
house in Westwood, she lived in that one for four years.
So I guess when she married Paul Byrne, her parents
lived in this house. But apparently she haunts this house.
So this Westwood one, there was a family that moved
in in nineteen seventy. The day before moving in the
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woman of the family went upstairs and her dogs were barking. No,
those seventy shoes. They weren't comfortable, nor her actual dogs
were barking at an unseen presence. She says she heard
a voice say, please help me. The first night that
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they stayed in this home, their bed was struck three
times by a heavy force.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
About it was what did they have for dinner? So stupid?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well, the kitchen lights would go on and off. They
heard a woman sobbing in their living room. There were
cold spots and winds. Okay, I'm like, that's good from academy.
Oh my god, that's great. The husband and wife both
(25:08):
had a dream of the bathroom overflowing with water and bubbles.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I didn't even even I think this is like new
homeowner nightmares.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, listen to this. They they both had this dream
that they're taking a bath. It's overflowing with water and bubbles,
and then a hand reaches out to the nearby light
switch and gets electrocuted, and then they both like wake up.
So they call an electrician, who was amazed by how
out of date the light switch by the bathtub was,
(25:41):
and they replaced it because they're like this, this is
like a premonition, like you're going to get electrocuted. Right, So,
I don't know, that's kind of interesting that both the
husband and wife had the same dream. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Well, I also appreciate that it had a good ending,
like it was a warning. Yeah, oh thank god we
called the electrician. Yeah, because you usually think of like,
you know, having the same dream or a ghost story
as something negative, but it was like, hey, this electricity
is old. Call an electrician immediately.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You're gonna get zap honey.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So another Hollywood blonde that we of course have to
talk about is Maryland. Now you put a D on
the end Maryland. Yes, you're right, I did. Maryland. Yeah,
I say Maryland because that's a state. Yes, it is Maryland.
Maryland Monroe, Marilynn Okay, so Marylyn Montre, Montro, Maryland Mondrou
(26:47):
she is the most booked ghost in the afterlife. She
has never stopped working. Oh she is everywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Booked and blessed.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So apparently the home that she died and people see
her wandering the gardens and they hear whispering in their ears.
There's this girl who's a Marilyn impersonator named Jasmine Chiswell,
and I think we covered her a couple of years
ago because she was like kind of getting publicity. Okay,
so this woman, she's a Maryland impersonator, like she like
(27:21):
fully like lives her life looking like Marilyn Monroe. Happy birthday,
Yes to you. She moved into that house, Oh of
course she did. And she was like making videos saying that,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Where did she get the money? Like this is someone
I've never even heard of, and buying Marilyn Monroe's the
place where she died. That's expensive.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I didn't ask, but I believe she wasn't alone. So
she made videos saying that people would feel hugged from
nobody and they would hear voices and footsteps, so it
must be Marilyn.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Give me a mary lug. How Maryland, I'm trying to
get haunted today. Why not Marilyn will show up like
it's not Maryland. Great.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I would love that She'll just hug you.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Because she I'm weird.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's my Maryland.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Oh my god, that's so bad.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well I'm not a Marilyn Monroe impersonator.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Neither am I. But I can still do it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
No, you can't.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I tried.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That was Varla Jeane Merman.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Who I've been working with lately.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I'm Merri moua. That's good. That's what she sounds like.
Give me something to say with Marilyn Monroe knows it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Give a girl a break. I haven't had solid food
in three days.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Get a kid a break.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Food. Can I tell you that story?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Okay, what is it? Years ago? We used to go
to Rage every night. We even got an apartment up
the street from Rage so we could walk there. The
gay nightclub that is no longer.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Now it's called Beeches Trapicana.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It was called Heart for a brief period. I think
that was a shameless money grab that failed spectacularly. Anyway,
we used to go all the time. This is in
the like eighties and after that, we would go to
a restaurant called The Greenery and you know, have a
bite to eat. And there was this older, sweaty, really
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bad Marilyn Monroe drag queen and it was packed and
the waiter was walking by and she was trying to
flag him down, and she would look at us like ah,
and then she tried to flag him. She was like
really performative. And at one point she turns to us
and she's like, what's a girl got to do to
get some flapjacks around here? And she was a little pudgy.
(29:53):
She was a little pudgy, and one of us said,
I think you need to slow down on those flapjacks, Marylyn,
and she goes, give a girl break, I haven't had
solid food in three days, diarrhea. Who was she did?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
She just like live like that all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I have no idea, but you know what it's like.
The makeup was all clammy and it was bad, smelling
like clams. It does not equal clammy. No, it was
kind of like out of a movie, you know, like,
oh my god, it's like a scene out of After Hours.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's what I would imagine. You come to Los Angeles,
you see someone dressed like a Marilyn Monroe impersonator trying
to get flapjacks. That feels very la in a movie.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Also, you know she ate from around here flapjacks. We
don't call them flapjacks on the West coast. That person
was from Salina, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Oh interesting, Yeah, I guess it's pank. I don't eat
like that.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, okay, marylynd CA.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Here's where else Marilyn is. She's also at the Rosabelt
Hotel of course. Of course, of course she poses on
the diving board because that's where she did a toothpaste ad,
which was her first ever print ad. So apparently now
she's still there doing the toothpaste ad. People see her.
She would often stay in a cabana room which is
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still there, and they're like, ooh, it's the Maryland Suite.
And I actually have been in there before. I went
to someone's birthday party in there one time, and there
was a mirror in there that she would look into
that is haunted by her. At one point it was
in the hotel and another point it was in the
manager's office. A maid said that she saw quote a
(31:39):
sad looking blonde looking into it. While she was cleaning it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, now there's no fair Sherry Vine was having her
house fumigated and had to stay for a few days.
Sad looking blonde, Well.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
There's no no word if the maid was a sad
looking blonde woman herself, because I mean, if it's a
mirror and you're Katie Guys.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I would also like to think that maybe the manager
was like, uh, why are there streaks all over this mirror?
The ghost? Oh, you just blame everything on the ghost. Well.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Also, it's like the Hollywood Roosevelt had a publicist in
the nineties that was into the ghost thing. Because I
feel like growing up being into Los Angeles and being
into ghost stuff, it was always the Hollywood Roosevelt like,
and it was always the mirror and the Marilyn Monroe
and all of that. They also say, what's his name?
(32:36):
Haunts it?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh? I was trying to think of something funny.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I actually don't actor. Actor? That really narrows it down.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you, fifties sixties he was gay.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But tab hunter, no.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Rockhead, close warmer, suddenly last summer.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh Montgomery Cliff, Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Cliff, he plays as his trombone or his trumpet.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Oh, I bet he plays the trombone. Probably had a
private suite.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You play that trombone extra roasty.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You do it better than me. That is so good
people don't even know.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, So also let's see here, can I.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Say one thing about Montgomery Cliff please? He was so gorgeous.
And then if you watch Suddenly Last Summer, which have
you seen it, it is so bonkers and I love
it so much. But this was after his car accident,
so he had facial reconstruction, and he knows he doesn't
look like his old beautiful self. So the entire movie
(33:55):
has like he's always apologizing with his eyes, like I know,
I'm so I don't look like the old me.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
His grandson some kids, no, nephew, I don't know. One
of his descendants made a documentary a couple of years
ago about him, using like his actual like recordings of
him speaking and stuff, and he like kind of clears
up a lot of stuff about him. It's really interesting
(34:25):
because I think a lot of people thought that he
was like really miserable and whatever, but he like wasn't.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Well, you know, there is this like misconception that gay
people were so miserable back in the day, and there's
been a few really amazing documentaries. Don't ask for any
of their names. Yeah, but that are like now the
complete opposite. We had a whole community and everybody was
like having a great time. I mean the only difference was, like,
(34:52):
you know, you couldn't be completely open about it and
walk down the street holding your boyfriend's hand, right, But
like people were actually happy, and there were say spaces,
and that's why they went to Palm Springs and you know,
Fire Island and Provincetown. That's all. I just want the
kids to know.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No, that's good. I think they should know. They should
also know that Marilyn Monroe's also with the Santa Monica Pear.
What now, that's just some tourists. Shit, there's no way
she's at the stand. It says that they see her
sitting on a bench about the hippodrome.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Excuse me. Okay, I know she was a size fourteen,
but that is old school body shaming. Let me tell
you something. Somebody who worked there was like, attendance is down. Yeah.
I have an idea, yeah, totally, the ghost of Maryland Monroe.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Oh my god, I need to do that for my
next show.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, be like a ghost.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Will appear Marilyn Marylynd haunts my Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Also they say the Westwood Memory Real Cemetery where she's
born or sorry, where she's Perry, where she's buried. People
see a pink colored mist.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
That sounds more like Jane Mansfield.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well, she liked pink too, I guess. And she turns
into a mist there. I don't know. I don't know
why that would happen, but whatever. They also see her
at the Knickerbacker in Hollywood, Knickerbocker Hotel. She hangs out
at the bar there, you know, the rooftop that's where
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the seances.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wini's wife Who's.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Wife used to do seances to contact him.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I know she has a name, and I hate saying
she's gonna haunt us, Harrietta. Was it really no, my
God to do what I fell for it? Yeah, Harrietta,
I know that their.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Secret Her name was Jeanie Genie.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Oh dear, No. You know there's a Kate Bush song
and it's called Houdini and it's all about trying. They said,
when I die, we will have a secret phrase.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Apparently he never did it.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And the phrase was Rosabell believe. I think it was
what Rosa Bell believe, or maybe it was just I'll
call you Rosa Bell. And anyway, it's in the Kate
Bush song Houdini, which is genius. The cover of the
album is her kissing a guy who's dressed like Houdini,
but you just see him from the back, and she's
got a little key on her tongue because he used
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to kiss his wife before he did the escape routine,
and she would pass a key to him through a
kiss and then he'd be in there and take it
out of his mouth and unlock.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh so you're gonna ruin us.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We just talked about the Masked Magician. Do you remember
that guy?
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Uh? I know, the unknown comic.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
No maskedician, look at me when you said that.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Not the unfunny comic. It's getting so listen.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
We're not even done with Maryland's don't do It?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Shut Up? Can you tell him obsessed with her? Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah? A shout out shout out to Luscio's mousacre love her? Okay,
so also Marilyn Monroe. They there's a mirror at the
El Capitan Theater, which is right next door to the
Hollywood Roosevelt. So this girl is just looking in mirrors
left and right, right next door. And in twenty twenty two,
you remember, there was that like kind of controversial Netflix
(38:37):
movie called Blonde. Oh god it was I didn't I
didn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
It was horrible.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But the actress Anna de Armas, she said that at
the Venice Film Festival premiere the movie. She said that
Maryland's ghost haunted the set. She said, quote, I think
she was. She was happy. She would also throw things
off the wall sometimes and get mad if she didn't
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like something.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Okay, so she's literally everywhere.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
She's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I mean, she's getting around more than when she was
alive and she got around. That was slut shaming, and
I apologize.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
May West, Helly May West rules.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh my god, She's everything.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I love May West, So May West. According to a
website called Bizarre Los Angeles, she haunts the Ravenswood apartments
in Los Angeles. Do you know where that is? It's
like mid Cities, It's like I feel like that's like
Hancock Parky sort of area. She lived and died in
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the upper floors in nineteen eighty and she even allegedly
told friends that as long as the building stands, she's
gonna be there. Okay, oh, as long as the boulden style.
I'm so good. Imprecious, you're bad. As long as the
building styles local.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
As long as the building stands, honey, that was better.
That was like me doing Alaska doing. Let me just
say one thing. I love that she said, as long
as the building stands, because I mean, don't you know
how hauntings work. You know, the building doesn't need to
be there. They could, like, you know, tear it down
and put up in Arby's. And she's like, do you
really want to order that? Honey?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
You want curl of Froz with that.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
The seasoned?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Why did she talk like that? I'm happy to see people?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
How many years later I know I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Happy she did.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So here's an excerpt from her interview with an author
John Coebel for his book called People Will Talk. She says,
you know, sometimes I just lie down in a semi
dark room and I see crowds, individuals coming in like
(41:06):
a montage. What do I sound like?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
She says?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Now, I'm a very normal, healthy person. I don't imagine things.
So when I see things and hear voices. I know
there's something that exists around us.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
This is the worst Snatch Game episode ever. No, I
love that she was kind of into the occult.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
No, she was. She was very into psychics. So she says,
over the years, I developed my psychic powers. Everything was
a thought before it was created. This table, this vase,
they were thoughts before we made them. But I really
didn't get involved in ESP until I met Thomas Kelly
(41:52):
in nineteen forty one. He was a famous Quaker mystic.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
And do you know that Lady Bunny's parents are Quakers?
No joke, I'm not even joking because you think I'm
going to make a joke like that's why she looks
like the Quaker oats guy out of drag or something.
I'm not even kidding. But let me just say one thing.
I actually got emotional when you read the part that
said everything was a thought. This table, it's such a
(42:18):
simple I'm not even kidding you. And how old I am,
and I've never really thought of something that simple.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Well, that's part of why I like ugly things so much.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Is she just winked at me.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Is because like things that other people you conventionally would
say are ugly. It's like that is someone's vision. It
was someone's vision, and that to me sometimes I look
at like an ugly piece of art or like I
don't know, some old antique and I'm like someone thought
that they that that was like beautiful they took the
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time to make. And I do think about that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
It's also subjective.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I mean there's peoplelely and I don't think that it is.
I don't look at it that way at all.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I mean I used to joke, this is how old
the joke is. If if Janice Joplin was on and
thank god she's not a blonde, or she would be
the subject you know part of today's podcast.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Didn't you stay in the room?
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I think it was the room. I know I stayed
there at the Highland Gardens, Yeah, that hotel. But here's
my point, Like if she was on American Idol, they
would be like, girl, run a comb through your hair,
you're a bit pitchy, dog, lose twenty pounds, do you
know what I mean? Like she's one of the most
amazing iconic voices, just like we were talking about with
(43:39):
may West, Like you know, anything that kind of strays
from who cares about a perfect singing voice? Who cares?
I mean, a beautiful voice is great, but give me
some emotion, give me Chrissy Hind. I listened to Chrissy
Hind of the Pretenders, and sometimes I'm like, I would
never have thought. And I'm a singer, I never would
have thought to sing it like that? And is that
(44:00):
actually the right note? She's kind of like right under it,
But it really pulls at your heart strings. I know
it's turning into like Hallmark, but yeah, no, yeah, I
agree with you. And people are starved for reality, real reality,
not like reality TV authenticity or originality. Yeah, and even flaws.
(44:23):
That's why have you ever done a show?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's why I like you.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Thank you, And people you know come up after the
show and they're like, oh, my favorite part is when
you totally fucked up, and I'm like, really, thanks a lot.
But then I think about it and it's like we're
craving that we want something real, real, not ai heh.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
So she goes on to say that the forces for
good and evil were coming in. I could hear psychic
voices and see people all the time, and they kept
me awake at night. If you told this to people
about hearing voices, They think you were mad or something.
Now I know I must have always had these voices
(45:02):
telling me things. You see, they helped me several times
when I was really in a problem and I didn't
know how to get out of it, Like the court
case I had. I was being sued for one hundred
thousand dollars and I knew I was innocent, but I
didn't know how to handle the case. I was lying
in my bed when suddenly this voice comes to me,
(45:23):
very beautiful, deep man's voice, speaking in an old English accent,
with the and dows. That was the way he was speaking.
And this was in nineteen forty eight, and I knew
I had heard that voice before, back in nineteen forty one.
I had always remembered it because it was very distinguishable.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Who was it?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I guess you're never gonna know.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
She went out to say that the spirit voice told
her what to say in court, helping her to win
the case.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Oh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
After it was over, I wanted to know for myself
what kind of person that voice belonged to. I asked
the dictionary about it, and I opened it up when
it said clergy, So I know it was a man
from the clergy, you know, back in the eighteenth or
nineteenth century. I think she could have just filled in
the blanks. So I have this book. You know how
(46:17):
I collect these things.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
I'm just so sorry. Think about how scary it would
be to be sued for one hundred thousand dollars back
in the forties.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Five million dollars or something.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Oh that's not then, but that would be a lot
for you. Huh girl, I'm just kidding. Okay, So you
know how I collect these old books. Yes, this is
what I have called I Believe in Ghosts, And it's
a celebrity book. And it says, as told and recounted
by Danton Walker. What year is this? This is nineteen.
(46:54):
I believe it's the sixties. Nineteen fifty six.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Oh my god, that's forty years before the sixties.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Oh my, guys, five years after you were born. So
there is a chapter where she talks about her it's
called may West's Spirit Friends. Oh, she's filled with them.
So she was really into.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
May West's spirit legal advisors.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yes, there's also a story about Ida Lapino and burl
Ives Okay, and Guthrie mclin tick and nol Coward. I've
heard of that one.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
You've heard of Noel Coward?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah for cool?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
That one cool?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
But I don't know who Guthrie mcclinkle.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
No, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Okay, should we do please?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
I took an improv class, so just yes.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
And I took an improv cluster in the pandemic with
a really better connection, so I can do like half
like I can.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
You can only do yes.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
No, I can ask for a suggestion from the audience.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Oh okay, and that's it. Well, here's the thing. Even
if it cuts out, it's always going to be a gynecologist.
Uh yeah, because the audience thinks they're being funny.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Jackie. Yes, I got a haunted doll for you, like
physically now, Oh God, just act like you. Listen to
this fucking podcast. Every single week we feature a haunted
doll from eBay. It's time for the dolls are living? Okay,
(48:33):
So I go to eBay dot com. I type in
haunted doll. I search through hundreds of listings till I
find one that is just right, this one. I've never
found one more right for a guest ever. Jackie, you're
gonna think that I made this up. This ghost is
going for thirty four dollars and thirty cents or best offer.
(48:59):
The ghosts is side this doll. The doll's name is
Jackie jeeha show is Jackie?
Speaker 3 (49:07):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Raz I did not make this up, Jackie speechless.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Well, it kind of looks like me after a date.
The smeared lipstick. I don't have blue eyes, but I
am bald.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I just so you know, Jackie, that's not a mirror
that you're looking at. That's a screen. Uh oh uh oh,
the blond wigs coming off.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Wait wait, hold on, where's my camera? Ready? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, So what we're looking at here is a bald,
feminine doll that does not have any eyebrows, smeared lipstick,
blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
I do wear that color as eyeshadow her eyeballs. Yeah,
but can we look at picture three. She's got a waste,
so that kind of shoots it down. She's heightweight to
proportion it.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, you would never. You would never wear that outfit either.
That's she's very Victorian. Well she comes with a bio. Okay,
it says the person selling this wrote I received her
through a friend who collects vintage toys, someone who doesn't
usually deal with spirit vessels, and they felt uneasy with
(50:31):
her quote. She doesn't scare me, my friend admitted, But
I feel like she's sad, like she doesn't belong with me.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I'm sorry. Of all the pictures, that is the creepiest
just lighting.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Well, they did take a picture where they made the
lighting spooky, which is very important when you're trying to
sell these I think you need to make them look
a little scary, it says. The moment I held Jackie's vessel,
I understood her energy was dis subtle, but layered, carrying
the weight of something deeply personal. She wasn't restless, she
(51:10):
wasn't angry. She was just waiting for the right person,
for someone who could understand. Jackie was young when she passed,
like in her early twenties around nineteen eighty. She carries
the vibrant yet fragile energy of a girl just beginning
to understand herself. Through deep meditation. I've received flashes of
(51:32):
her past. I get the feeling she spent much of
her time on the outside, looking in, searching for acceptance
in a world that didn't always offer it. I sense
that she was part of the LGBTQ community, perhaps questioning,
perhaps certain, but never fully embraced. Whether she kept this
part of herself a secret or faced rejection for it.
(51:55):
The energy around her speaks of a quiet battle. She
doesn't seek. She doesn't even seem mad most of the time,
but there's a longing in her energy, a need to
be recognized, to be seen. So some of the things
she does unexplained. Music comes out of her, cold breezes,
object shifting, dream communication, electronics, acting up you know.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Wow, Yeah, I like the lgbt Q plus pandering part. Yeah,
that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I mean, yeah, she definitely is uh messed up. Well,
she's like in a dress and she's sort of just
based on her makeup and hair.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Can we she feels I imagine like if we bought her,
what we might hear? A disembodied voice? Can I do
an impersonation? Please? There's my vague there's mad ivy.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Oh that's how you think she would talk.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, and she's like somebody stole her wig right before
like a major event or function. She has never been
the same.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
See, that's what's interesting about It's almost as if she
did have a wig, because you know how usually with
a doll. It comes out of your head.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
There's no plug.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
There are no plug.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
She didn't go to turkey.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
She didn't go to turkey.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
That was the bird, not like some Middle Eastern I
just did my turkey.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I can't even do a fucking turkey.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
God, what is going on with you?
Speaker 1 (53:40):
I am not known for my impressions.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
That's why you are obsessed with celebrity impersonators. You really
can't do it. Let's guess we're both vegans. We shouldn't
be mockery. That is so bad.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
That is bad. What is wrong with that poor turkey?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
That's all right, But I'm good. I have other talents, yes,
be jeweling boots and mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Going to YouTube and finding ghost recordings.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
It's time for EVP.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Or ev plase.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
These actually creep me out, you know they do.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Fun fun. Well, these are two from a YouTube channel
called the Space Coast Paranormal Society.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Okay, really rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
I don't know where these locations are. Doesn't necessarily say,
but they are two evp's, and I want you to
guess what this ghost is saying.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I'm scared, Jackie.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Here's the first one.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Okay, do it again. Oh my gosh, it's very hard
to hear. Are you in the dark?
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Are you in the dark in? That's not what they believe.
Did they think it was a your drama girl? Okay,
B you want this to work? C you don't have
to worry? Or D you said this wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
It's either B or D because I thought it was
are you in the dark and work and hurt? Sound
more like that to me, So I really think that
they are usual sometimes more innocuous. You want this to work?
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Well, they think it was C you don't have to worry? Again?
Oh yeah, now I hear it, Green Needle. I think
it could be you don't have to work, like them
being like, you don't have to work? What are your parents?
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Do?
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Have you had a husband? Like that's what it sounds like. Listen,
you don't have to work. But they think it's you
don't have to work.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Maybe it's the ghost like what are you doing here
with this recording device? Don't don't you have to work?
Speaker 1 (56:29):
I love ghosts, like throwing shade at ghosts. Hunters love that.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
But do you know those things where you listen to
it and whatever you're reading, like Green needle. You've never
seen that one?
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Oh, and it will say and those are so scary,
they're so weird.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
It just goes to show you that reality, like we
really are in the matrix.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
What you're talking about is like you see a video
that will pop up in your algorithm or whatever, and
it's like, whichever one you read, it will say out loud, that's.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
What you will hear. Yes, yeah, yeah, there is.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I just remember green needle. Yeah, yeah, what is the other?
Speaker 3 (57:05):
I don't even remember the others, but green needle is
such a specific substance. The substance green needle. Okay, let's
do this.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Here's another one. I don't know the location, but what
is it saying?
Speaker 3 (57:17):
Terrified? Oh my god? Okay, give me the choices.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Did they think it was a let's not say we did, okay,
I know you do.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Did they think it was B stop I'm not here,
which is a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
That's a movie title, A twenty four honey?
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Do they think it was C it's that time a
year or D. That's not my finger.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
That's not my finger, that's what he said. That's not
my finger. This is.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
They believe it's base stop, I'm not here.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
It literally sounds like that's not my finger.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Though listen, let's listen for stop I'm not here.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
That sounds like there's a tail end like right now
or something stuff I'm not here right now.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Or.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
There's a little trail even on stop that's not my
or that's not my finger? Can you you know what
I mean, there's a little trail like there's another one
or two syllables after everything. We think it's.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
I think it's that's not my finger. But uh, it's
hilarious that it said stop I'm not here, Like that's
such a funny thing for a ghost, Like you're trying
to contact a ghost and they're like, stop, I'm not here.
I'm not home right now.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Oh it had an answering machine.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, that's funny to me.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Stop I'm not here is a really good title because
it's just such a strange phrase. Stop I'm not here.
Oh my god, I like it.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
Well, we need to stop and you need to not
be here because now the podcast is over.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
That's called a callback, Ladies and gentlemen, even though usually
there's more time in between.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
It's a quick one, a quick yeah.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Yeah, Well I have had a wonderful time Hey, I've had.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
A great time too. It's always nice to see it.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
It's always nice to see you.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
So what is going on? Where are you at? What
do people need to know?
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Well, I you know, you know this personally, I've been
taking a bit of a break and just kind of like,
you know, when you've done drag for thirty six years
and now it's like such a drag race world and
now it's almost a post drag race world. I don't
even think drag race has the power it used to.
And there's just so many you know, former contestants and
(01:00:10):
everybody's just vying for work and beat bop boop doodle dooce.
So I've just kind of like pulled back a little
bit and just haven't felt the need to work quite
as much. I've been writing for a lot of different people,
performers and you know otherwise. But now I'm kind of
getting the itch again because you know how much we
(01:00:33):
love drag even though I bitch and moan about it,
and I.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Know how much you have an itch, yeah, which you
do need to take care of.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
That's not my finger, cool back, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah, So just kind of like to take a break.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I'm just not feeling desperate. But then there is a
point where you're like, really that wig there is I
tried to have fun with you. There's a theme, and
some people are just like they won't even play with
the theme, or I think it's great. No, I just
I but you know, when you're not working, even though
(01:01:14):
I have been writing, and that's like, you know, I'm
sitting in bed in my underwear with my dogs in
the laptop, and then I just like, oh my god,
I just made like you know, kitching without having to
get all dulled up or leave town or whatever. But
nothing takes the place of live performances. And you know,
I'm used to like working a lot, and when you're
(01:01:35):
not getting money.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
It's not good for a here like that mighty to
be a capitalist, but like you need to work and
receive something like it doesn't have to be money, but
like some type of reward for if you have a
passion you know to do it and.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
To well you're thinking a lot more like I don't
know esoterically even then. I I was just meant, when
the money's not coming in, it's scary how quickly it
goes down because you're still having to pay all those bills,
and this is Los Angeles, and you know it's got
to pay the mortgage and the this and the that
and the car lease, and so you don't even think
about it when you're just working constantly. But Sherry Vine
(01:02:15):
and I do the Golden Girls Brunch. It's the fourth
Sunday of every month at Precinct and it is so fun.
I'm not kidding you. People wear calf hands, they dress
up like the characters. We have trivia. It's really super
fun and it's just me and Sherry. You know, sometimes
(01:02:37):
those drag brunches are like, you know, six girls, and
I mean, you know, God love them. They're doing death
drops and flip flopping all over the place. But this
is all live singing, and you know, it's really really,
really fun.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
You're not flip flopping, No, you're not wearing flip flops.
Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Of course I'm wearing flip flops.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Oh okay, my feet hurt. All right, yeah, plug one
more thing and then we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
If you need anyone to write anything for you, if
you have a project that already exists and you just
want it punched up with just a layer of jokes,
a sprinkling of jokes and the Sprinkles cupcakes of jokes.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Yeah, so you know the best in the biz. Well,
who's written for within your Joan Rivers?
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yes, within your budget. I wouldn't say I'm the best,
but yeah, Joan Rivers and some other people, a lot
of people. I've been fired by everyone in town. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
That's one thing I forgot to mention that you love me? Yes,
of course I love you. How many people say that
you and I are very similar people?
Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Oh yeah, you were telling you that the other night,
And at first I was like.
Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
What, Yeah, but we we're not. We are very similar
in terms of interests. We both saw the movie Carry
at a young age and it formed us. We both
like kookie glasses and over the top.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
We love artifice. We like camp. I always say one
of my mantras is have the courage to be camp. Yeah,
you know, like be on the red carpet dressed like
a swan, have everybody wondering is she serious? Like have fun.
Life is short. I'll never understand people who want less, less,
culture less, you know, different, Like they get mad because
(01:04:31):
somebody's speaking a different language. This is America. It's like, honey,
I want to try every food as long as it's vegan.
I want to, you know, listen to different music and
like that's why my drag, you know, I don't have
that signature. Lady Bunny is always that same silhouette, always
a blonde. Same with Sherry Varlajeene Merman's always a redhead.
(01:04:51):
Coco Peru or as I call her, old one wig,
you know, an outfit from cheekos and that wig. But
I'm like, one day I'm doing the girls look, then
I'm doing like the sixties. Then I'm doing like Satanic,
you know, Housewife, seventies, you know, then eighties, you know,
like gem and the Holograms. Like I get bored. I
want everything. I want more, more, more, And I think
(01:05:13):
you're the same, even though you have a signature look,
and that is good for branding.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah, but we like colors, oh we do. We like colors,
and we like flavor antiques. Oh, we love spooky things.
Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I'm a spooky antique. That's why you love me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yeah, and we like little dogs. Oh, little dogs are
back for both of us.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
That picture you sent me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Of my little Chucky, Oh my god, we both have
little white dogs.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Anyway, Well I'm sorry that this will be the last
time I see.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
You because you're gonna hit it big.
Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
No, I'm just I'm done. Oh it's been a jer
it's been exhausting, and I think it's time we end this.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Oh okay works for me.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah yeah, So we'll figure out a way to salvage this.
Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
This was damn good. All right, it was, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
That's not my finger? Yeah, sure. I love Jackie Feet.
Isn't she something? She's something, that's for sure. Ah, thank
you for listening. I will talk to you very soon.
Tell everyone you know about this podcast please, and you know,
(01:06:47):
see me on tour and stuff like that. Find me
on Instagram, all of that. I love you all, both
living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has been
an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience
(01:07:10):
on the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes
I'll even call you. So email me at ghosted by
Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a DM
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Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me
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(01:07:33):
Twitter at It's roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the
startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.
This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
(01:07:54):
My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying
Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the
Spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen
(01:08:20):
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