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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the Bed's spooky? Hey, Juky, I'm pretty
sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I said, I Los Nandas Police. Hey boo, it's me
(00:29):
Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast
where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
Kel Crepe is here today, and Kel is someone that
I know from doing comedy, you know, doing it real queer,
(00:50):
the queer comedy scene, I suppose of Los Angeles. That's
we've done a lot of shows together, and Kel has
been popping off per particularly because of this one so cute,
so funny clip where they go scram look it up,
(01:10):
You'll see what I'm talking about. It's great and just
such a lovely person. And so we had a lot
of fun looking at Sylvia Brown clips. We'll get to
that in a moment, but first let me read you
a story. This one comes from Alstener named Justin, who writes,
(01:31):
I have a quick story to share about fifteen years ago,
my husband and I bought a creepy old photograph in
a frame from a thrift store. It was a portrait
of a family we assumed from the late eighteen hundreds.
I won't mention their name out of fear. We used
to kind of make fun of them because of their stoic,
(01:53):
unsmiling faces. Our roommate at the time warned us not
to do that. Shortly after we had this photo hanging.
One night, we both bolted out of sleep as all
of our bedding had been pulled off of us onto
the floor. We both had the sensation of a kid
(02:14):
sitting on us and beating our chests. It was so
scary and truly freaked us out. I do not welcome
things like that into my life, but I truly believe
we were visited as revenge from making fun of that family.
The photo went straight to the garage and was later
(02:35):
sold to an unsuspecting woman at our yard sale. Thank you, justin.
I guess it's that woman's problem. Now there's just some
poor woman that is now waking up with a child
beating on her chest. Beautiful. Well, thanks for sending me that,
(02:55):
and as always, people send on your stories. This is
perfect and nice shortened sweet beginning metal end. Sent it
to ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. Okay, here
is a hilarious conversation I had with comedian kel Cripe
on with the show. Oh my god, cal Ripe is here.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh my gosh, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm so good. I'm so happy to be here. I
freaking love you. I'm excited and a little nervous. I
freaking love you.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So scram m h it's been a big part of
your life.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It has the word that changed changed everything.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
How is it having a catchphrase?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's it's both like amazing, It's it's really convenient. It's
like a little quick thing to say to people, to
do a little photo. It's it's fun. Just how much
it's like permeated into my life in a way where
some people are like, oh, you probably hate still saying it,
and I'm like, no, no, honey, that that word gave
(04:12):
me everything. I'll say as many times as you want
me to say it, Like I'm fully like writing a
children's book, like a I don't know if I actually
can say that. Well, I'm spilling it here.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But yeah, I'm doing like a scram children's book. I like, yeah,
it's it's like been so fun. And I've been able
to do like cameos, to make videos for people, like
completely changed my following online everything, and then it like
led me. Also, I got to do my first tour
this year and I was like found from someone that
saw the video online and it it's it's nuts. But
(04:46):
then yeah, having the little thing to say is I
think it's very in line with like this is also
like my cartoon character. Like if I was a cartoon,
this is the shirt I'd be wearing. I'd be wearing
blue jeans and a hat. So it's like it's kind
of like the prophecy cu true cute.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I see. I have this one video that people know
me from where a ghost is calling me names I'm familiar,
and so the names that I get from strangers are
very different than you. But same thing where I'm like,
the best thing's ever happened to me.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's so funny. Yeah, like what can take off and
what it's always the stuff you don't think about that
does well and then the stuff you try really hard on.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now, when you did that one video, was there like
did you just throw it up there or were you
like this is something I it was because this is
where I try to make things a little bit like
metaphysical or whatever, because sometimes I think that these moments
that change your life for forever, Like I wonder if
you realize, well that.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
There is such a beautiful thing of Like it was
so cosmically where I was like, I'm gonna really try
to start thinking less about like being less precious with
things and just start going for it. And if I
get an idea, go for it. And that morning with
my girlfriend, because the joke of it is that like
we she would say it to like if I had
(06:15):
a nightmare, if I had something, she'd be like, oh,
I tell him to scram and we'd say it to
each other as like a term of endearment. And then
that morning I was like, that'd be a funny video.
She was like, let's do it. And then it just
like literally one take. I threw the song on because
I thought it needed something that really drove in that
I was joking in case it got taken too seriously,
which it did in the beginning, which is a whole
(06:36):
other story, but uh yeah, it was something beautifully aligned
where then also it was like my girlfriend was such
an inspiration for it. And then Sizza reshared the video
on her birthday and then that's like what started changing everything,
and like it is very much like intertwined with my
(06:58):
like it will always make me think of my girlfriend too,
and it's like so thanks to her. So it's a
beautiful like thing that helped me accomplish like so much
I wanted to start get going from like this one
little thing that's amazing. Yeah it's And it is funny
though because in terms of people like shouting things or
something like on the streets, there have been so many
times we're walking somewhere and I hear someone like, not
(07:20):
sure if it's me or not, We'll just quietly hear
scream and then like we're like looking around, like, what's
that real? It's so funny.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Could have been a ghost, could have been I'm always
trying to tie it back.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I know, I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Are you someone that believes in ghosts or like just
any of this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think kind of to like a like a scary
extent where I feel like my people pleaserness extends to
spirit realm where I'm like, I don't want to be
ignorant human coming into your space. I don't want to
be joking about you. I want to like I want
to be like I don't who's to say what there
is and isn't. I mean I mentioned this earlier, but
(08:06):
like one time I was walking on the street with
my friends and there's a Ouiji board late at night
on the side of the street.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh that's not good.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And they're like, oh my god, that's picked up. I'm
halfway down the street. Before they finished asking, like before
they finished suggesting we should touch it, I'm like, we're
not going near it, we aren't doing anything that is.
I am respectfully leaving that bee. And then we went
to like a seven to eleven, got a snack, came
back and was gone.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's spooky.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And it was probably another group of friends that didn't
have someone like me convincing them not not to touch it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Was it here in La?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was in Highland Park.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
People love free stuff on the street. Yeah, you know.
Some girl with bangs in Highland Park was like, that's
going on my wall.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah it's a bargain.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah yeah, framed in one of those like mismatch frames
where it's like two.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Absolutely make a little collage out of it or something.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I know. But I feel like I quietly in my
head a lot, I'm like, hello, if you're here, I
just want to say I respect you putting all my
respect forward.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Good for you. I'm more scram more like scram like
when I go places like I'm sure you're here, please
don't bother me.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You have so much more experience it experience with them
than I though, I guess, so, you know, like I
feel like I don't know it is. I'm just such
a scaredy cat in general, and so I'm like, something
I can't see scares me.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's terrifying. Yeah, the thought of like I can't see you.
If you wanted to, you could just touch me. You
could do anything to me, Maybe you could get inside
of me and possess me. Like I don't know, so
I'm just like I'd rather not find out.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, I think though, I wonder if they respect and
appreciate that, like like maybe I'm pandering to them, you know,
like maybe I'm like they're like yeah, and You're like okay,
I see, Like okay, what do you want to what
do you want to talk about?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What's your deal?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Do you believe in psychics?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I believe that there are people that can probably like communicate,
but I think I don't trust humanity to be telling
the truth. Like I don't know if I trust people
like I think I'm such a global person. I'm like,
there are swindlers everywhere, like they're trying to get me,
and yeah, and there's an element of I don't know, well, okay,
(10:31):
I was actually thinking about this on the way over.
I had a movie scene that changed my opinion on
all of this that stuck with me since I was
a teenager. Have you seen the movie Ie Origins?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, what's that?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's this fantastic movie and if it's okay, if I
do a slight divergence here, I don't know if that's
the word. Uh where. Basically a plot of the movie
is this like micro biologist trying to create an eye
from scratch to disprove God because an eye is a
(11:02):
very symbolic image because it's something that tends to debunk
religion because there's so many intricate parts to it that
like the idea of evolution and an eye is like
how could that have evolved so intrinsically? And so the
idea is, if he can create an eye and give
sight to a being that doesn't have sight, it would
by proxy, law of determination whatever mean God isn't real.
(11:26):
And then he of course falls in love with a
very spiritual woman, and so it's a lot of conversations
about like science and spirituality and her kind of asking like,
if something spiritual ever happened that disproved your scientific beliefs,
would you be willing to accept that? And something that
struck with me is they're standing spoiler alert, They're standing
in a lab and she's looking at these worms. She goes,
(11:48):
so these worms can't see and he's like no, She's like,
they don't have the ability to perceive light. No, but
yet here you and I are standing and it's undeniable,
like yeah, And she's like, well, what if there are
just senses we don't have that, like, don't allow us
to perceive what is like undeniable for other entities or spirits.
(12:11):
And it was that thing of simply like, rather than
using the senses and human brain, I have to logically
understand spirits or something beyond my perception. It was like, oh,
what if I just don't have that switch and so
I can't see it, but I would absolutely believe there
are people that have that switch, right, you know what
I mean. It's such a long winded way, it just
(12:32):
it changed my the idea of like, whoa these worms.
If you tried to tell these worms what light was,
they'd call you crazy. But like we're standing around so
much light.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, they'd be like, why are you talking to us?
We're words?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Like can I just like go into some dirt? I
don't know what they really do, what their tasks are
throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, they would think you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But it's I think people have it. I think people
also know how to manipulate having it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Mm hmmm, well that's the thing. The ghost could be
coming back and being like, hey, can you tell that
person over there that I hate them? And then you
could be like a ghost is telling me that they
love you, you know what I mean? Like they could
just they could be like, I don't want to say
that because then this person can get mad at me.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, And that's so funny because then in this existential
way that makes me think of oh, like language and
this idea of subjectivity and that like you can never
fully remove bias or perception from what you're saying. So
like interpreting something from a spirit and then you interpreting
that to someone else also is like so much could
(13:44):
get lost in translation here from the fallible human not
the spirit. It is a game of telephone.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Are you familiar with Sylvia Brown? My favorite? I have
been a fan for a very long time. We've talked
about her a few times on this podcast, but I
feel like, not unlike you, she's become quite the star
on the internet. She's been dad for a number of years.
(14:17):
But she was a famous psychic that would go on
television and there's clips of her, certainly in like the
eighties and nineties, the era of her life that's really
been getting thrown around on the internet lately. She would
go on Montel Williams. Are you familiar with Montel Williams?
(14:37):
It was like a daytime talk show, and she was
definitely rocking, like little bangs, which I always love a
woman with band, and she would have like long claws,
like you know, nails, and she just got the smoker voice.
And I thought I would show you some Sylvia Brown clips.
(15:00):
This is probably the one that's getting the most traction
these days, because here's the thing. Sure she did some
great I'm sure you know there's there was a time
or two she was able to make a career. She
made some correct predictions, but no one wants to watch
that okay, So here's here's her taking a stab at it,
(15:23):
okay and really going for it. Who is in our house?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
First of all, George and Hazel pinkering p I C
K E R I n G.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I would look it up on so these people, it's
a couple and they were under the impression that there's
a ghost in their house. Without skipping a beat, Sylvia
Brown could tell you it's George and Hazel pinkering.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Spell to the last name, like if there was confusion
on the last name.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, which is that a real last name? Ever? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But the more I started to go back turing to
spell what she spelled, I was like, I'm just going
to trust her.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, just just let her do it. She's the professional.
All right, let's keep watching.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
You know the background of the house.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Our house is only ten years old.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Money the land, oh okay, how do you think the
land is.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Well, very old.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yea a land fell Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
But also there used to be something they had to
do with the farmhouse near there.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
So I would look it up.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
George just want Hazel.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And then once she finds if the fast to go
or she could even tell them to go and then
go look it up and then you know, be validated.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Is there anyone else in the house like watching over us.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Or well, of course you have your like I said earlier,
angels and guides and all that. But these people are
not harm now. But they were way there even when
the Indians were around, not on that exact spot, but
clothes right.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
This has been happening all through both of our lives.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He's had experiences.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
And like me, I can go into a brand new
place and get it because of the land.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
See, we're what we call a land, honey, the land.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So they're like our house is ten years old, honey,
the land.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Think about the land.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
How old do you think the land?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Woman.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well she was just so good at improv. Yeah, like
so many people uc bos A die to Sylvia Brown.
This woman quick on her toes. And that was the
thing with these shows. The audience would constantly be like,
where's my my niece. She's been missing, She's in she's
(18:00):
at a lag somewhere, just not missing. She would know instantly.
But here's the thing. Sometimes it was dark, like sometimes
it was bad. There were a few times when she
told people like they had a missing relative, and she
was like she described her. I'll give you some examples
of that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh, this reminds me. I do remember a medium One
time in my life's small side anecdote is I had
a small, random job where I helped design a website
for a woman who said she was a medium and
a real estate agent.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Just literally, I think like a Nathan Fielder sketch talk
about the real life. And I remember having a zoom
with her about her website and her pausing and going like,
I see something in your room. And I was like, Jesus, girl,
I want to help you add a search bar to
your website. Yeah, like I'm helping you put a drop
down in here. I don't I don't want you to
(18:56):
scare me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Just this one one experience, one on one with a medium.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So one time she told a woman named Luana Miller
on a two thousand and four episode of Montel. She
told her that her daughter was dead, her daughter was missing,
and she said she's not alive, honey, your daughter's not
the kind who would ain't call. And she, it turns out,
(19:29):
was alive. She was found alive after she broke free
from a home in Cleveland where she was being kept
captive for a decade. Dark stuff this is. There was
an article in twenty twenty thirteen, Oh my God from
(19:50):
ABC News that was talking about a couple of different
times where she did this sort of a thing. There
was also a time the parents of a teen named
Sean Horn. She told them that their son was dead
and that they could find his body near two jagged boulders,
and four years later he was found alive.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
What what does does she say anything in response to this?
Like oops, oopsy?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It says in this article they reached out and she
was not available for combat.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
She just never says anything about it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I bet you she can get herself out of it.
I mean this clip that we just watched, they're like, lady,
our house is new Land, like she knew.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Finds a way to make you feel stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yes for questioning her.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
We need more? Can you show us just some more?
All right? What's the son?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Wells my boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Tragically a few years ago they have found and I've
had such a hot time since every day.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, the reason why you didn't find him is because
he's in water, and find him in water. It's like
the girl is missing in Aruba. You can't find somebody.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It was September eleventh. He was a fineman.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
To little Mills.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I keep seeing him in water. No, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This woman is just like lady.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
That is unbelievable television.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Wait, particularly like these people are grieving, they're going to
her for answers.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The way she looks at her and goes, well, I
see water.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So I'm surprised she's not like, well, you actually have
another husband, and you're not telling us because this one
is dead and he's in the water. Like she's so convinced.
All right, give us another one, please, jeeha.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
My mom passed away three years ago, and she was
a beautiful woman, by the way, thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
She was very flamboyant, Yes she was.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, she was sort of a gypsy type of woman.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
And before she passed away, she tried several times to
tell me something in the hospital and I could not
understand because of the tube she had in her mouth.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And yeah, the trick all that, and yeah, I just
don't understand it.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
To this day, still bothers me that I couldn't understand
my own mother.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
She didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You know, this is really hard to tell you your father
is not your father?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
What what?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Wow? But who cares you love?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Who you love?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Okay, but she wanted to get that off her chances.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Who cares you know?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
But I mean that was her thing.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Okay, wait, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I know, wait it is.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I am.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I am flabbergasted, Like my heart's racing. I'm like, how
do you look someone in the eyes and saying it
reminds me of like one time playing with my little
and pointing at me, going we're playing Spider Man and
I go okay, and he goes, you're the bad guy,
and I go what I do? And he goes, you
have to bank and it's like, okay, we're in.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
It, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, incredible impromises.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Here's the thing taking and run.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But she's doing it to like grieving people and.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
To people's entire life stories. Your father is not your father?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Next?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Who outs? Who's next? Give me the next one? Someone's
missing child? What's going on.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
The ease of her just going up? Yeah, she's pretty
yet drake yet Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, I love what she says. Yeah the trake yep, yep,
I can see it all right now, I'm looking at yes.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Like hands, hands at like hands at the sides, just like, yep,
dad's not your dad. Your firefighter husband actually died by water.
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
It's so surreal, it's it's so facious.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, let's see what this clip is. What a question
for Sulia? I have a really bad problem with social anxiety.
I can't freak out. I can't.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
You're doing pretty good now, but let me tell you
where this comes from. You were accused of being a
wish in a past, Like you were put in a
circle and you had to name two people so that
supposedly you wouldn't die, except they didn't tell you that.
(24:32):
They just said, tell us two people. You named two people,
and all three of you were hung. So no, do
you have social anxiety?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh no, how is that going to help her? I
know now she's terrified that someone's going to accuse her
of witchcraft.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
There's also this like I don't think she thinks she's bssing.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
She like that's why she doubled down and she goes, well,
I see water.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I just can't get that.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I don't know what to tell you, you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
This is just so serus.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I could do this all day. I okay, let's uh,
we got another. Is this the last one or the more?
This is the last one. I want more, I know. Okay,
here we go. Let's see what this is, Sylvia.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
My parents divorce time is two years old, and I
don't know my biological father.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You don't want to okay, I don't thank you?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh so bad? No follow up.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
She just said that as an aside. She's like, so,
my parents divorce, I've never met my biological father anyway,
and you don't want to what.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It's also for the amount she's willing to shatter people's
like perception of their own life, that one must have
been so bad. She was just like, I'm not even
going to get into it. I'm not even going to
tell you why you don't want to meet him? And
I could.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
She's like, I could think of something.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm sick sparing you right now.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Trust me, I could come up with something real good.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
We're just also tired when they don't ask everyone, it's
like a ask, like a Q and a portion of
a show.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
What it is? Don't ask? And I'm sure this was
This seemed like a day where she was over it.
And I'm sure every single she looks over at I'm
sure every single one. This day was like, my son's
been missing, You're not.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Going to find him.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
To me, he's gone, give up? God, who was I
in a past life?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yet I want to know? You don't want to know?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
That reminds me one time my uh my mom always
told me a story of my dad, like getting away
like out of a book report in class in school
by like he didn't read the book anyone up to
the class and he's like, I want to tell you
about this book, but like it's on his so good anything,
I say, it's gonna spoil it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh that's Genia.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And they were like, can you tell us anything? He's
like no, honestly, like.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
No boiler alert. I don't want to ruin it for you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And then past.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's the Sylvia Brown school of improv.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Truly, it really is something to be studied. It's like commitment,
unwavering commitment. Yeah, almost in a way where she'd probably
be a bad scene partner, you know, like she shines solo,
but if you came on and you were like, here,
I got you coffee, she'd go that's a snake.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
That's not coffee.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
That is a Boa constrictor that killed three people.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Like, No, it's a it's a caramel macchiato.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
No, it's not, and you don't want it to.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Be, trust me.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Hi, Sylvia, welcome to my new apartment.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
This isn't new, and it's not an apartment either. Honey,
look about the land.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Wait, I want to be I'm Sylvia Brown. You're my
rob partner. Okay, you start the scene.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Hi, welcome to the grocery store. You finding everything? Okay?
Also I'm saying everything. You're not supposed to do. Ask
a question, not a sentence. Second said at the grocery store. Hi,
welcome to the groceries.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You think this is a grocery store because in a
past life you joked on a pretzel at a traitor jos.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh, thank you for telling me that did Did you
know we had a sale today? Actually over on, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Want to know, and you don't want to know either,
trust me. All right, scene, do we do it?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I think?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
She?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think that's perfect, except she she would yeah, she
calls her own scene.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
All right, we're done here.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh my god, laps up so funny oh my gosh.
There's a there's a sketch like a video of Liam
Nissan doing him for U where they're like knock knock
and he goes, we're closed. Wow, new hero. Maybe well yeah,
like what's your like, what's your full take?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Because I hear so many thoughts on professional psychics. Ultimately,
in a case like this where she gets so famous,
I truly you'll get this. I often compare it to
being a comedian because sixth sense is just like sense
of humor, where you can't always be funny every single time. Now,
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some people are definitely funnier than others and they can
make a great career out of it, but once you
commit to being like I'm a comedian, people are always
like you better be funny. Yeah, And same thing with
a psychic, Like and I think that there's tricks, Like
when you're a comedian, you can you have material that
you know will work, like you could do that and
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if all else fails, But like when you're a psychic,
I think you also have I think some psychics that
are put on television and it's like now be a psychic.
It's like it's not coming today.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Force Yeah, clearly, what was going on in that last
one would.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
So I think they start doing tricks. Yeah, I think
they start doing these little tricks that are just like
someone just mentioned father is not your father?
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Like that one works every time.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, I'm like, did she pull the just the specificity
of you were once accused of being a witch? You
had to name two more people you all died, Like
it's so surreal to be like did that come to
her in the moment?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Was that when she was like, no one will think
I'm lying if I give too many details.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
So real, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah? The confidence, it's like the if I speak confidently enough,
nomen will question it.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, which is why I feel like I would be
so like I'm telling you, if everything fails for me,
I will come to you for a website design because
I'm going to be like, listen, people, I all of
a sudden I discovered I can speak to the dead,
and I will I'll do this and I'll be so
good at it.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, I think there's like something like beautiful where it
tends to be people seeking some form of resolution and
it can help, and it can help. This woman, she.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Helps so many people. She did this for years. Yeah,
she definitely helped people over the years, and I'm sure
she was right a lot of the time.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Seems like she did maybe cause some harm.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
She caused a lot of harp. One thing I saw
it was like she told these people, you know, your
son is either missing or dead or whatever it was.
But the police investigation, no, I think he was still alive,
and she said that he was dead, but they like
put all their energy into whatever she had said while
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not being able to solve the case.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I think it's like, even if there's a little bit
of it's not coming today, but I'm going to do
my job. If it's used to like help comfort someone
give them resolution, I'm like, let that person receive that.
But I was actually just listening to can I give
a shout out to another pod? On a pod?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It depends what the pod is.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I was writ into the microphone maintenance face late that No,
what was it called maintenance fase I that's great pod.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It so wonderful pod. I just started getting into it
and I've been going back from the beginning and in
one of the early ones from years ago, there's one
on like Celery Juice and basically like uh, a medium
claims like it's not backed by medical science, it's backed
by a spirit he communicates with who tells him medical
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discoveries like from the future basically, and then uses that
to like sell celery juice and it causes like giant
craze and then like there's all these like little traps
to fall into, like oh if if it doesn't didn't
work for you, it's because you mess something up. It's
not the salary juice. And it was just this fascinating
thing where then they joked about like, oh what if
what if the medium is actually so truthful and it's
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the spirit that is trying to like swindle like trick
humanity into like selling could be surry juice, Like what
if he's being so honest and it really is like
everything's going through him and it's just a spirit playing
a prank on everyone.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Absolutely, that's the spirit. I would be. Yeah, when I'm dead,
I'm looking for psychics so I can mess with them.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah. Again, I really just think it's about committing these
people they can commit to You're my person. Okay, so
this is this is gonna be my career again when
all fails for me all right, so come to me
the problem him.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I've been trying to work at home.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
And yeah, the stuff you're doing.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like working at home and the computers. Yeah, yes,
oh my gosh, yes, yes, oh my gosh. Yes. I
was on the computer and I just kind of keep
every time I started getting into it, I just hear this,
like not creak in the whole way.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Yeah yeah, and that's that's the person that died in
your house.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Somebody died. Yes, Oh well, I'm actually I want I'm
in an apartment.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Well that doesn't matter, honey. Steve Liberating.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Died. He died in your hallway.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Honey, wait, I don't think that geographically makes sense for
where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, I live in just like a really small round.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yeah it's little, but but Steve Lvaracchi lived there.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, he died.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
He had the drake and the and he uh the track.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah that's so interesting because I do feel like I
cough every time I'm in the.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Hallway there, and that's what I've been saying.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
So what do I do though, Like, I'm scared.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Honey, you have to leave salid. I put it on
the market.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I just moved in, and you.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Gotta get out of there. You're never gonna get your
work done.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
But my partner like she which, so.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Leave her, leave her there with Georgette.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Steve, it's George.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
George is the other one. I'm seeing another.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
There's two and you gotta look off like this cap.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
There's two I'm seeing too, George. Who's who's the.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
One scram Oh my god, that's my cousin.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
That's you, my cousin, Your cousin.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh no, are they okay?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
They've been missing.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Between two jackets.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
See, this is what I'm gonna do. This is what
I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna cause drama for people.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I think this is really like it's also the saying
the last word as someone's saying it. It's like, yeah,
people who learn that, like that's what a good listener does.
It just makes them talk really anxious.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
But it's like I knew that the whole time. You
didn't even have to finish your sense. Yeah, I knew
because I know you.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Just let me get the first part of the sun
itself out.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah. Can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
These are real? Okay, these are never fake. It's time
for the dolls are So I go to eBay and
I look at haunted dolls for sale, and there's one
that's currently for sale on eBay for seventy five dollars.
Her name is Mandy. Geehah, show it's Mandy. You got
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a rod?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
No, she's gorgeous. No, so that's Mandy. Mandy looks like
she's been through uh a rough night. She she's got
like one eye open when eye closed. She's very that
kind of it's it's been a rough weekend for her.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
No, the blush that was still poppished.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
She still has the blush, it hasn't been touched. And
her eyebrows are still there.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Eyebrows looking good.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, there's a rubber band holding one of her arms on.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
And hey, we've all been there.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
We've all been there. So here's the little bio she
comes with. It says scary. No, it says meat mixed
up Mandy. She may be in rough condition, but she
feels that is her identity. I have offered to buy
a new body and fix her up, and she politely declined,
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that's the ghost that's inside of this. So essentially, a
human person died and they chose or somehow got in this.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Rubber band arm.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
This is the one they want, Yes, she says, baby,
I was born this way.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Funny positivity.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yes, she says. I have offered to get her some
clothes and she told me quit it, lady, I am
a mess. I like being a mess. It is okay
to be a mess. Who So I kind of backed
off as I sat to think about it. I feel
I can kind of relate to her. Not every day
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do I want to comb my hair or go shopping.
Some days I just am happy sitting here alone. Sometimes
I just need my space. Other times I need to
be here. So now this person's just talking about their problem.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, this reminds me of like a recipe like for
you have to scroll.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yes, that's very much what these are. When I was
a kid, my mother would make this castle role.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I just want to make jock a chip cookies.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yep, exactly. So she obviously hasn't told me her story
because I began to understand her faster than she trusted me.
She had a life where she did what she wanted
to do as long as it didn't affect anyone good
for her. Wow, I feel like this is a way
of trying to be like she was a part of
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the LGBT community. It's just as long as we don't
have to hear about.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It behind closed door.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
She was free, Yes, and that's why in her life
now or her after life, she wants to just be
who she is.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, that's why she doesn't want someone to change her.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, we don't even know really if she uses she
well true, I mean she hasn't corrected man.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yeah, you're right, yea.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
But it says in closing here it says her main
mission is to educate people that not everyone is perfect,
and that is okay.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Wait, that's like very beautiful. Why would this person be
selling I know.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I guess this person already learned that lesson. And so
now if you give this person seventy five dollars, she
can teach you. So if you're somebody listening to this
and you're like, I I am perfect or I'm not perfect,
and that is not okay with me, you need this
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doll Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Sure. Let you know, what started as very scary has
I like have a very soft spot in my heart now? Yeah,
because I feel like maybe this is my lack of understanding.
But you described it as like a haunted doll. Of course,
does haunted not have to mean scary.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I mean that's what's fun, Like, that's what we want
to hear about. You don't go to a haunted house
and it's just like an invisible person that's like, hey,
come in.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
That's my dream haunted house though, coming in and they go,
it's just someone in a mirror, and that mirror has
post it notes to say like you're doing great.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah, it's like keep going.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm sure they're all don't change for anyone.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's technically haunted by definition.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
But to be honest with you, because I'm a little
scaredy cat, and to me, I feel like there's been
many times in my life where a ghost is like hi,
like put their hand on my shoulder, Hey, welcome to
my house, and I'm like, ah, something touched me.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
And so it's like they're not all upset to be here.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
No, I think that there's some that are just like
this is it, honey, this is what I've been waiting for,
is to be just looking at me. Because I'm sure
they're also like pervs, you know, like they love to
be like I'm watching.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
You because they can watch anything.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, and we can't watch them.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
That's not fair.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
It's not fair at all. But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Have you ever had any during one of these recordings,
any ghosts like anything you felt?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I don't know. So there is a creepy man standing
behind you that I wasn't sure. He's looking down now
this is this is a newer studio.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
But the land. You don't know about the land.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
The land, the land.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
So let's move on to our next thing. Can I
please play some ghost of voices for you?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Please?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
It's time for ev or EV please Okay. EVP is
electronic voice phenomenal. Okay, So, anytime a professional in the
field believes they've captured a ghost speaking, I've got two
of them for you. I'm going to play them. I
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want you to tell me what you're hearing, and then
I'm going to give you an ABCD and that one
of those will be the right answer. At least you
know what the person believes. So this first one is
from Wamirah Paranormal and it was at a place called
Pleasant Creek Hospital. What is this ghost saying? Okay, wait,
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I love that you just jumped. There was a sniffle Okay,
the sniffles from the ghost hunter. That's a a living human.
It's like, for sure a sniff but before the sniffle,
there's like a whisper. Okay, So listen in.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
This of those hearing tests where they put you in
a van and have you, like put your button in
a van. Do you know about this?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I don't think you're supposed to take that in a van.
Do you think someone's kidnapped you?
Speaker 2 (44:12):
You were kidnapped in your own life.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Between two jagged trees.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
They like they came to the school and we sat
in a van and then gave us like a Jeopardy buzzer.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
No cow, no, Cal, that was not Did they offer
you candy?
Speaker 4 (44:28):
He did?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Cal. I need you to talk to someone about that.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I'm talking to you about it right now.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Okay, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I'm literally hearing clink, Yeah, like the word clink being said.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Do you know what? Yeah? Like, well that's not what
they thought. Did they think was a what cologne?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
No way?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
B you claim your dad.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
C clean it up?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Or de climate death. Maybe they're trying. Maybe there's they
believe in climate change and they're trying to.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Tell us I'm glad I got that.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yes, you did.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Clean it up, clean it up, locking it in ten
million dollars on the line, Wait, clean it up? And
then it was like they knew.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
It's not going down their nose.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Clean it up?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yes, yes, I love games.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Okay, So this one is from Ghosts of Tennessee on
YouTube and an unknown location. What is this ghost saying?
Cal cripe? Okay? Sorry, that was scary. There's a voice
underneath the.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm trying so hard. Sounds like my cat when he's hungry.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
There's some options. Was it a please get out of here?
B Who's that s too bad?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Or d Hazel and George Baker then spells it?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Oh, no, pinkering, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
We're you gonna hear? What more time? None?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
It's so clear you can't tell.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Wait, really you think? So?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Please get out of here? Who's that too bad? Or
George and Hazel pinkering?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Well one more time? George and Hazel pinker.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Believe it?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Is it please get out of here?
Speaker 4 (47:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (47:07):
They believe it's too bad.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Okay, I was thinking it was too bad, but then
I thought, no, you'd give me two seas so.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
In the original clip, the ghost hunter says, I'm getting
nauseous over here, and then the ghost says, too bad.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
I want to believe so bad. And I just don't
hear that.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Really, I thought that was crystal amazing, crystal clear, crystal clear.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
But I have bad hearing in general, so this is
not the job for me.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
That's because in your past life you were bitten by
a snake in your ear. It was green snake with scales.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Okay, last thing. I'm just gonna throw out a couple
of thingies, and I'm wondering what your thoughts are. Aliens, God,
you believe them.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
There's no way humans are the only thing I don't
know if they're what we have imagined this far is
I think if there are infinite galaxies and planets, doesn't
there have to be infinite creatures. Yeah, we're getting into
the nitty gritty of infinity.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, there's there's that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Everything's got to happen, do you not? Of course I believe.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Them, believe I believe in But you know what I
think a lot is like, the universe is so vast,
and I think that sometimes we all kind of like
have this idea that they're all in one place, so
they're all from one place. But it's like there's there's
gotta be so many different types. And like a lot
of those, like those clips that we see that like
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the military captured or whatever, It's like those are kind
of like the boring ones, because I also like the
ones that are like light show, like giving you full vegas,
like they're up there.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
So I feel like they don't they don't need to
be coming here, like they like are living their own lives.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Oh yeah, they're five.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's so like egotistical of us to assume they're dying
to come to Earth.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
I know everyone wants to be here, please, I'm sure
in the galaxy this is the bad neighborhood. Nobody wants
to go to Earth.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
The people on Earth are trying to get off Earth. Yeah,
why would they be dying to come here?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah? Absolutely? What do you think about past lives? You
were a witch?
Speaker 2 (49:30):
I was? I was a witch that all bit in
the ear by George and Nazel threat No, but I
it's interesting. I think I am a believer, something that
calms me down about my fear of death. And this
is maybe so cheesy. I don't know what it is.
But have you ever been to the Huntington Gardens?
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Cheesy, No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
There's this really big, beautiful tree called the Ombu Tree.
I would go like lay in front of it and
lay in the grass and like almost the closest thing
I had to pray because I'm not really religious, like
to this tree, and something clicked for me or was like,
why I do think I prefer to be buried than
cremated is because there's an element of like, oh, bodies
going back into the earth. Plants are living, breathing things.
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It's like this everlasting circle spirit. Like I was like, oh,
me see here as a living human admiring these trees
blowing in the wind. Those are other people also, because
we literally went back into the ground and it was
like it's kind of the only thing that calms me down.
So the idea of Past Lives is like, I don't
know if I was necessarily another person, but I'd like
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to think maybe I was a tree and maybe I'll
be a tree again. Yeah, I think trees are the
more important things than humans.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
I don't know, but I love the movie. What movie
Past Lives? I don't know this leans on.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
I don't watch the same movies as you. Our algorithms
are very different.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
We've got to have some overlap. I'm also like a
nerd with that stuff though.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
That's beautiful. Yeah, is there a fun conspiracy theory that
you believe?
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Oh that's so fun. Oh I should have come prepped
because I grew up my mom and I would just
always watch conspiracy theory docs and like sci fi shows
and everything. So I was like very in that world.
I feel like I used to be the kind of
kid that's like and if you foold the dollar bill
in this way, my mom was like fascinated by like
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Freemason's umat like Illuminati and like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Do you think that's real?
Speaker 5 (51:38):
Like the Illuminati?
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I don't know everything.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
About People will tell you on the internet like there's
a secret underground. La Oh my gosh, that is like
truly underground.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
It's like I just truly like not like it's gonna
sound self deprecating, but I'm not trying to put myself down.
I just have such an a feeling of being so
dumb that I'm like, yeah, I assume everything could be real,
Like I know so little about life. Who am I
to also say something is wrong? You know, I have
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to understand how underground works to deny for you that
there's not an underground la. I don't know where all
the stuff goes. I don't know where all the stuff
came from. There could easily be anything underneath me or
above me, and I don't know because I'm on my
damn phone. Right, And that's a message for gen Z
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of America. Tickup.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
You're one of our few gen zs really that we've
ever had here.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Oh, that's really a big honor. Yeah, I know where
a handful.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Yeah, in the last, certainly the last.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well, my dear, this is it.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
No, no, no, just one hundred more minutes, please, no more,
no more freaking. I didn't tell you about how I
see butterflies than they remind me of my dogs.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Boring?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
All right? Well, can you tell people where to find
you and stuff?
Speaker 2 (53:08):
You can find me on Instagram at kel Cripe. I'm
on TikTok at really good impressions. I just started a
YouTube kel Cripe. I think I'm underscore or kel underscore Crepe.
I should know that. I just know I didn't score
kel Cripe. But I'm on there. Oh I'm doing a
show in New York for the Comedy Fest.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
I do stand up all around. Uh, put me in stuff.
I'd love to do stuff and hanging out with my
awesome girlfriend. Oh, that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
And you can find me on YouTube at kel Crape.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I thank you for having Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Thank you col Crepe.
Speaker 5 (53:56):
Honey the Land.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
I can't stop saying that. I love it so much.
Thank you for listening. I want to tell you to
scram I love you all, both living and dead. But
if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
Came on. This has been an exactly right production. Want
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Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.
My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
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is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by
the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,
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