June 16, 2025 • 51 mins
Roz rapturously welcomes back the brilliant comedian, actor, and co-host of That’s Messed Up, Liza Treyger! The tea is served HOT as the two discuss psychics, homewrecker ghosts, and the haunting of Bianca Turetsky.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the bed spooky? Hey, Juky, I'm really
sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I said, I nadas please hepoo. It's me Roz and
(00:30):
welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I
talk to people that I like about the paranormal. We
have got Lisa Trager on the show today. Lisa is
truly one of the best in the biz, and she's
also my exactly right sister. You may know her podcast
(00:56):
with Kara Klank called That's Messed Up. She's been on
the show before. She's always just she's just the coolest. Hey,
let me read you a ghost story. This one comes
from anonymous. Jeeh. Can can you give me like one
of those anonymous deep voices with like.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
A vocoder, like a voice modulator or something.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, sure, why not?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Thank you, hiro Was. I've never written into anything or
told this story before, but here it goes. My grandfather
died when I was about six years old. I remember
his funeral vividly, but I remember even more what happened after.
I was my grandfather's favorite, and I was almost always
(01:49):
by his side. After his funeral, I was at his
house playing outside alone and I saw my grandfather and
I started talking to him. All of a sudden, I
felt the overwhelming feeling of sadness, realizing he was gone.
He motioned for me to go sit by him on
the bench, which I did. He began to tell me
everything was going to be okay, and that he was
(02:12):
always going to be around. I started crying for a bit,
and he sent me inside. I saw everyone was so sad.
I never mentioned what had happened ever. Later that night,
my grandmother insisted on staying home by herself. People offered
to stay with her, but she didn't want anyone to.
(02:33):
She wanted to be alone, so everyone honored her request.
The next morning, we received a call that in the
middle of the night, my grandmother had showed up at
her neighbor's house all frazzled, stating that my grandfather was
at the house angry and causing a mess. The neighbors
were able to calm her down and didn't call anyone
(02:55):
until the morning. That morning, my parents, uncles, and aunts
showed up at her home and it was ransacked. Furniture
was tossed around the house, Curtains were ripped off the windows,
couches were overturned. No one had an explanation, and my
grandma stated it was my grandfather who had done it.
(03:17):
Some of the furniture was too heavy to lift, so
it couldn't have been her. It wasn't an attempted robbery either,
because nothing at all was missing or broken, just tossed around.
Everything was cleaned up, and no one ever mentioned it again.
I've tried to bring it up, but no one ever
wants to talk about it. They act like I'm making
(03:38):
it up, but I'm not. I know I was young,
but it's something I cannot forget. I'm not really sure
that it was my grandfather, as there was always weird
things happening at that home. Maybe whatever there was was
sad that my grandfather was gone. Some of my uncles
had bad experiences there and would refuse to stay after
(04:01):
sundown or spend the night because of it. When I
saw my grandfather earlier that day, I didn't feel he
was angry, so I don't know what it could have been.
No one in the family ever wants to talk about it,
and most of the people that were there are gone now.
But it's something I will never forget.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Say Anonymous that is weird, so there was already a
ghost there. Interesting, it probably was the original ghost that
was like I want attention to. I don't know, but
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my poor grandmother. That's a lot to deal with on
a night like that. Thanks for sending that, Anonymous. Just
a quick reminder that I am traveling the country telling
jokes at primarily LGBTQ. You establishments all across America. Uh
(05:04):
ros Hernandez tour dot com is where you can get
the tickets. The reviews have come in. People are enjoying
the show, and I am having so much fun and
I would love to see you there. I might not
be directly in the exact city that you're at, but
I'm the closest I've ever been. I can tell you that. Okay,
(05:25):
here we go. Let's talk to Lisa Tragger on with
the show. My head you guys, I am once again joined.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
By Lisa Trager.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Boo, hi, oh are some of my audience members here booing?
I'm I'm wacky.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Today, I'm I'm energized. I'm energized.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Stud. So you're a New Yorker, you gotta be.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah the time, yeah, I guess I get more sleep
here if.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The time difference see that's nice.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, I feel refreshed, honestly, But I was up. I
was up at like seven thirty, but then I snoozed
until eight o six.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh, I was snoozing away today. But they call me
snooze and honey.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I always I have to snooze. I'll send an alarm
earlier just so I get snooze once or twice. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I love a good snooze.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I like being kind of conscious, kind of not laying
around that states. Yeah, I'll check the cinematrix for the day.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's well, Movie Grid is the original game, but Vulture
as a cinematrix every day, and it's a grid game.
So it's like nine boxes and then the categories are
up here, and then they'll put actors right here and
you fill in the box. Oh that's fine, multiple answers
for each one. But the more obscurior answer, the more
points you get, and you're trying to get.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Are you good with that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It depends who it is. So there's movie Snake, there's
different games. So sometimes I'm like top ten percent, top
eight percent of the day, top fifteen, and then sometimes
I'm just top fifty and it's fine, top eight, Like
it just depends who it is today. I'm like, what's
on Michael Fastpend or a movie that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Starts with a vowel.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But I'll get there by the end of the day,
and I don't cheat, and if I cheat, I don't
count the score. But like they have, but sometimes it's
like I don't know Liza Minelli's outside of cabaret. Sorry,
so it's not my day.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh call me if you have that one, Okay, I'll
help you with that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But if it's like a Robert de Niro, Julia Roberts,
Michelle Pfeiffer.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'm in right.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We got a Denzel Samuel Jackson, I all day.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So it's one actor every day, and no.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's three, ok and then three so it'll be like
one word movie movie that came out between nineteen ninety
and twenty ten, and then movie that was nominated for
an Oscar okay, and then here it'll have Kirsten Dunst,
Michael Fastbend, Rihanna oh Rand. Yeah. One time they had
(08:05):
like a Rihanna Beyonce Taylor Swift and that was kind
of fun, but not that much because they don't have
that many movies, so you can't get that obscure.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, oh yeah, Battleship.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, that would be the one word. And then movie Snake,
which is part of Movie Grid. It's one actor for
the day and there's like a snake of categories. So
it'll be like a movie that starts with the n M,
a movie that came out in nineteen seventy to nineteen ninety, and.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
We'll be like all one person speaking of snakes. That's
my number one fear is a snake.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, I'm with you. I don't like snakes. Actually, just
did a petting zoos show as the stand up show
where you hold an animal while you perform. I held chinchillas.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh those are cute.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
They're cute. They're active though, so I have the cutest, fuzziest,
softest but they're running on you. Okay, like the beard
a dragon. They don't move.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh that's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
But a girl did two snakes.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Absolutely, that is Michelle Donna.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, you could pay me because of America's Next Top
Model and the education I got. I would persevere for
a job, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't think I could. Maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Wait, I have to tell you what happened on my
way here. I went to get some a coffee and
a bagel. Right as I'm walking, two hot guys are
making out and it's romantic, you know, it's early in
the morning. They're they're being cute. I'm walking. I see
a bunch of fucking I think they're my culture. We'll
see but like old immigrant dudes. And I could tell
they were not liking the making out. And so as
(09:34):
I'm walking, I see them and one of them goes, ah,
this is America. You know, he's pissed, and so I
turn around and I flick them off and I go
fuck you. But the gay guys think I'm saying it
at them.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh no, So I keep walking and.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Then for something was I turned around and they were
staring at me, talking and I go, oh no. I
was like defending you guys to them, but they I
should have just left it alone. They were just making out,
but then we all started laughing. I go, no, I
told them to fuck off. They were being shady and
they were like, oh good, and I was like, yeah,
for sure, I'm like you can keep making out. I
liked it, but they thought.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I tell them they need to google you'd be like
I'm an ally to gay men, I promise, but they.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Know they didn't see what was happening or what those
guys they were making out, so all they saw was
a woman walk by them. Fuck, I say, fuck you.
Oh no, but I cleared it up. Okay, good, But yeah,
that happens a lot in LA wildly. These old dudes
always have something to say, and I am always there.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Oh yeah, no, I'm I'm so used to it. Well,
and that's like I'm traveling a lot right now and
people keep telling me like, aren't you scared of and
I am, yes. But also like in Los Angeles is
where I've had the most people just like shout out
slurs to me. Yeah. So yeah, it happens anywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It happened once since Silver Lake. It was like, you know,
some dude was being mean to someone wearing heels and
I went, well, they look better than you. Ooh, and
you know we had words. I will fight.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I like that about you.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'll fight. I don't mind my business. I'll get in
and I will fight.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You're like a little bit scary, like a little bit intimidating.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, and then you get to.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Know me, and you know I'm not, but yeah, you
are sweet, but you are intimidating, Like I wouldn't. I
wouldn't want.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
To a virgo. There's a sense of justice.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not starting a fight with you.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You can and I don't read, you know, if it's
like something about you know, but I've ever been in
a physical fight, Well that's it never goes that far.
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Have you had any ghost experiences?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
No, it's devastating. And you know I live in New York.
Now my building is for pre war nineteen twenties, you know,
like and nothing, nothing, just the radiators screeching.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean, I think that's probably for the best. You
don't want that. I don't, But I get enough going on.
You don't need like some ghosts.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You're right, You're right. I don't want to invite spirits,
but I want to feel something. Yeah, I want to
get a little wink from some of the other side. Well,
I also have never met my grandparents. They all were dead,
so like, I really want to connect with them.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Didn't we talk about you going to a psychic Like, yeah,
I wasn't, you know, I didn't really, I never did it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Oh I did it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh you did yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I gave her too much info. I you know, she
like ended up saying a few things where she misheard
me and she went off of what I said, oh
and not. And so then I was like, oh, you're
like a fraud.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, okay. So she took a little bread crumb and
she was like, oh, oh like you I'm picking up.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
On Yeah, but she misheard me. So it was just
like an obvious Oh, you're just making shit up.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's like she's she clearly took an improv and like
she's listening and trying to yes, and but you can't
do that if you're not hearing correctly.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No. And then I had a dumb bitch. I don't
know when I was here last, but I had a
friend die and this person I don't like came up
to me at a party and said, hey, like, I
have to talk to you, but like later, and I
went okay, and then she goes, do you believe in psychic
So I go I do it. She goes, yeah, we
(13:27):
have to talk later. I go, great, like get out
of my way, and she goes, I'll just tell you now.
And it's like okay, and then she goes, well, I
went to a psychic and she started talking about my
dead friend and that he said that he really likes
that I forgave her and that we're working on our
friendship and that he's probably like all this stuff that
(13:49):
my dead friend could give a shit about this bitch,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He came to your psychic reading to tell, hey, you
that we should be friends. Okay, you psychoba, that was
like my final straw with her final straw, and it
was like it was the Tom Brady roast. So you know,
I felt important and cool to be there, and I
mean to be like reminded of my dead friend and
then you lying and trying to manipulate your way back
(14:14):
into my life through.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Visiting a psychic. Oh god, psychic, I hate that. Yeah,
I hate that so much. I think people can use
psychics to be like, well a psychic said, see, like okay,
I am convinced, like a psychic told me that a
man with brown hair and facial hair is who I'm
going to end up with, and so I have used
(14:37):
that to manipulate men before, and be like, well, psychic said,
like is that you? And I think that's really fucked up.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't think people should be like because a psychic
said this thing, that means that now it's true and
you it's your problem.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But are these dudes like ooh yay, or.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
They like get me out of here? Absolutely, they are gone.
They do that that cartoon thing where it's like like
they're just dust.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But you want them to be dust?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No? Why no? I do this so that if this
is my version of like flirting, I'm like, just so
you know, as psychic said.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And then they run. Yeah, it's too much.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Here's what I like.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You should tell someone after you're engaged and then you go,
you know, a psychic and do this would happened? Do
you not go for blondes?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I go for anyone. Okay, specifically if they don't live
in America.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You like a long distance foreigner.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm trying so hard to be on ninety day fiance.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Ooah, you would be good on it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I need the airtime on TV. I think I would
be good.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think they'd be happy when they met you. What
country are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Europe?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Somewhere somewhere nice.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, here's what I like about you.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And there's many things I like about you. But I
like that you like a little bit of tea. You
like you like hearing like some drama.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, it feeds me.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So I tried to do some research to find ghost drama,
ghost trama. Okay, great, these are all stories I found about,
like first wife coming back to haunt, Second wife cool.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, God, I did an astrology podcast yesterday and for fun,
she does birth charts of ghosts and like dead people.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh yeah, anything good come up?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
She there was this woman Fritzie, who was like kind
of wild in LA and was like someone's neighbor and
she just looked all the stuff up about her, like
she looks up famous to dead people too, and like
because then you have the complete life and does the
full birth charts of like Audrey Hepburn and whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I feel like everyone in LA has a neighbor named Fritzie.
That just feels right. This first one's like kind of
tame and believable, like I could see this happening. This
story first is not really one where it's like her
ghost kept creeping up on me. Like it's not like that.
(17:14):
It's more so that she married a guy and then
like shit started happening, like the house kept like falling apart,
and it was like, so this author Bianca Touretsky, she does.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
This an iPad or you just hit your laptop screen.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The way you're doing. Am I hitting it?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
No? But you are clicking. You're like, yeah, that's crazy
to me, is it? That's not a touchable screen?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
No, okay, I just click it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah. Maybe the audience could let you know how they
feel about this. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean it might,
but you're not supposed to be like clicking and clacking.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I was doing that. I just here's the thing. I
pay good money for these nails. I want to hear that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, do you scratch your head a lot?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Non stop?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So nice?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Okay, I'm just too gross for long nails. Wait a second,
what I just remembered, what did I do? You did
do something? Somebody told me one time. I was at
a party. Yeah, and people were like, oh, look at
your nails, and they go, I don't like long nails
because Lisa Trigger said and her stand up that people
(18:30):
with long nails have shit under them.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I do. I do a joke about that. Well, because
it's hard to wipe. Don't you feel like it's hard
to wipe? It's like a whole process. It's different and
things get stuck under there. But you seem like a
clean person.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I cannot help you.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And you smell like fresh laundry.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Thank you. I can confirm there was no shit underneath
my nails right now.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I can't believe them taking it and running with it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Somebody you that's like I.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Said, don't shake the hand of a long nailed bitch.
I say the hugs only.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Lisa, you really fucked up my life because of that one.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, isn't it harder to do it? And you feel
like they're about to fall off? Like I met one woman.
She brings Latex clubs. She wears Latex clubs when she wipes.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh my god, what are these people eating?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Or they get bidets? A lot of them have bidets,
of course.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, that's part of the reason why I like these
European men. They are so cleanly. Oh okay, okay, So
back to this, So okay. This This author named Bianca Touretsky.
She wrote this essay story I don't I don't know
exactly what you call it for the Today Show dot com,
(20:00):
Today dot com, and it says, I'm living with the
ghost of my husband's first wife, So I'll basically summarize it.
So she meets this husband. The husband happens to have
a house in Saghart Harbor, which is a seaside village
on Long Island, and she thought right away that his wife,
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his first wife, Ruth, was trying to kill her. She
had been dead for six years at that point, and
you know, this house was like beautiful. They tried to
build it together the first wife, and she never really
got to see it, and so it kind of just
like sat empty for a long time. And then once
the man starts dating Bianca, then they're like, you know,
(20:47):
let's spend more time there. And the first thing that happened,
she goes in there and she's like, oh my god,
there's like like it smells like poisonous air, like this
is bad, which was like the house has been sitting
for a long time, just empty. But she's kind of like, okay,
this bitch is trying to kill me. Okay. So then
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she has a dream that night that Ruth is Ruth,
the first wife, is still alive, and that she had
never died. She was in a coma and she had
woken up and she was looking for her family, and
she's like, who are you? And in the dream, Bianca
was hiding in her bedroom trying to stay quiet so
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that she could find her. She's like literally like hiding
as this woman's like, what is going on? Is my
husband cheating on me? Whatever? And then she woke up
gasman for air and her husband was like, I'm so sorry.
I was wondering when that was going to happen to
you because I keep having that same dream. So the
two of them they got headaches in this house because
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of the smell.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
And I mean, did they call anybody? They just went
straight to ghosts. They're not going to call one professional.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
They did, Okay. Then a tree fell in the driveway
one day when they were trying to come through, and
the way she interpreted it was you're now welcome here.
She also found she heard unexplained noises in the addict.
One time there was dead flying squirrels buried in the
laundry basket. What, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I was with a friend yesterday and she said what
I heard was I saw a girl get hit by
a car and die. And I go, you don't seem
that effect, Like what the fuck are you? Okay, but
she said squirrel. Oh, but I was like you, I
didn't mention it the whole dinner. I saw a child
fucking die. You waited till we left the restaurant to mention.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, this woman found three dead squirrels, not humans, buried
in her laundry basket, which feels weird because.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Doing this, you think he is Yeah, I think he's
a sick. Oh you think a ghost is able to
kill three squirrels and put him in a basket.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean, how would that happen. It's like they're not
going to die in the laundry, right, Like maybe they're
huddling for warmth or whatever, but like they're not all
three gonna die at the same time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I just feel like ghosts can do stuff, but I
don't think they can, Like there's a lere squirrels and
murder them one by one, yeah, yeah, and leave them
where she won't, Like, I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
There's there's a limit to what you can do and whatever.
Who knows. She says it seemed like the house was
crying because the water was seeping through the shingles. So basically,
this is an old ass house that's like falling apart.
So she kind of is like interpreting this as it's
the wife being like, bitch, I don't like you. So basically,
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after a few months, she was trying to tell the
wife like I'm here to like protect the family, like
I'm I'm gonna do my best. You know. They end
up getting married, and she mentioned her at her wedding
toast and everything. It seems like everything was fine, but
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then they like go back to the house one time
and the smell is back, and they go upstairs, and
as soon as they go into the guest bedroom, the
entire ceiling just caves in on them. No, it caves
in on the bed, like it was like dripping on
(24:35):
the bed, and then it just as soon as they
walk in, it caves in. She says, the water was
leaking over, so the husband shuts off the water. We
pack up the car, we head back to our other home,
and she says, I think I will always feel Ruth's
presence in this house and in our marriage, but I
(24:56):
wouldn't want it any other way. I mean, okay, maybe, yes, fine,
I believe all those things happen for sure, but I
mean the squirrel one.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I mean for her to be like I wouldn't want
it any other way. And it's like, so you're down
with the ghost trying to murder you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, it seems like this ghost is truly trying. But
here's what I always say about ghosts, that like would
want to kill you or what like, anytime you're like,
aren't you afraid it? Ghosts gonna kill you if you
kill me? Now I'm on your plane. Okay, Now I'm
a ghost too, which means I could whoop your ass,
like right now, if I punch, it's just gonna go through.
(25:39):
But I'm saying if the first wife wants to kill her, huh,
that's not a smart idea, because now you're gonna deal
with with me being a fresh new ghost, and I'll
be able to whoop your ass. I can't really whoop
your ass right now because you're see through and I'm not.
But once we're both see.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Through, bitch, I'm coming for you. Ah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So that's how I feel about ghost.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The husband's truly a murderer. And then then living people
and then you meet up and they may the women
will meet up in ghostland bond and it will be
like a John Tucker must die.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I mean this could be That's that sounds like a
I don't know Sandra Bullock movie. Okay, let's get a
little bit juicier. How about this one from nineteen twenty two.
There's this really amazing blog called Notebook of Ghosts, and
the person who runs this found all the all these
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like old newspaper articles which are like kind of hard
to read, but basically these are all stories of the
first wives coming back. So from nineteen twenty two, the
ghost of his first wife throws a flat iron at
number two. So basically with this one, it was in Meriden, Connecticut,
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and a guy named Ryan gold Kerstein.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Not Connecticut, right, gold Twisted?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Are they twisted? There? Twisted? Well, so we're the ghosts, honey.
So basically he gets married again. So his first wife
died in nineteen twenty one, and then he married, I
guess in nineteen twenty two. That's you gotta wait a
little bit. But so he married, uh, married this girl.
She had been a nurse in the war, blah blah blah.
(27:30):
And then she says that the ghost of the first
wife passed through walls, doors and ceilings, and she's been
around acting very hostile. She said, quote, I knew it
was the ghost of the first wife. She did not
want me here, and I stalled off the inevitable until
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February eighth. Then missus Kay number two, the second wife,
reported that the ghost had been around. She was unpleasant.
She picked up in a flat iron and threw it
out her I like this, bitch the first wife. Yeah,
I'm on the first wife side. You gotta wait more
than a year. I will throw a flat iron at
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you if you you know. I just sorry, mom, if
you're listening. But I just hooked up with a guy.
I had not really met him before, and I was like,
if you kill me, I will haunt you. And I'm
resistant to any holy water say it will not work.
I will haunt you the rest of your life and
(28:35):
I will make your life miserable. And I think I'm
going to continue to say that to people.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What was the reaction?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He was like, Okay, I'm not going to kill you.
And he didn't. It works.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Did he give you murder vibes or this?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No, no at all, but just to be said, just
to be safe. Okay. Here's another one. That ghost of
the first wife scrambled his honeymoon. It says from nineteen
twenty three. This a different situation it says, in the
night of our honeymoon, my husband told me that he
would have to leave me because he was haunted by
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the spirit of his first wife. The statement, together with
other evidences of incompatibility, she related to the Supreme Court justice,
which resulted in a separation decree. So they got a
divorce because she was like, one of the problems with
this man is he keeps saying his first wife is
a ghost. So she married this guy. He was the
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president of Amherst's Knitting Mills, and immediately after the ceremony
they left on a honeymoon. On the night of September eighth,
while in Millwood, Pennsylvania, she says that he told her
about the return of his wife's spirit, and the next
morning she left him to go live with her sister.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So she was like a religious woman. She didn't like
caring about the spirits.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Well, it's also just like I don't want to hear
about I don't want to hear about her, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And why didn't he bring her up until post wedding,
Like you knew she was haunting your ass?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Like it's one thing to be like, yes, I will
absolutely acknowledge that she was a huge part of your life,
you know whatever. But if you're gonna say, she's right
here in this room, right now, invisible, staring at us,
watching us get busy on our honeymoon. No, this is not.
We're not We're not doing a throat bole.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Here's another one. Nineteen twenty four. First Wive's ghosts halts
Chinese wedding. Okay, this was in the associated press. Uh
and peeking.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh like the duck.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes. So, First wife's ghost holds Chinese wedding, claiming that
she was pushed by the ghost of her prospective husband's
deceased wife. A Chinese bride to be caused a sensation
in the street outside had a men gate recently by
leaping from the idle sedan chair in which she was
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being conveyed to her prospective husband's home. So she says
that the ghost pushed her out of the chair. As
the girl sat weeping in the dust. She explained to
the go between representing the groom's family and to the
crowd which gathered that as she was entering the chair
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at her own home, she observed a disheveled woman following her. Oh,
she threw a disheveled suddenly she felt herself propelled out
of the chair. She felt convinced, she said that she
was under the spell of the first wife, who naturally
felt annoyed at seeing her former place about to be usurped.
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After much persuasion, the bride was induced to proceed to
the ceremony, and there was no further mishap. So it
was just a quick little the first wife tried.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
She looked all disheveled, seem like this bride was like,
I get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But apparently she told everyone there, like just so you know,
I didn't just fall. It was his bitch first wife
that just picked me up, but through me. I want
that to be very clear. And I'm picturing like how
it is in like a rom com or something where
it's like this poor lady, she's like been running through
the mud, like stop. But that's so sad. The first wife, Oh,
(32:29):
I feel bad for these First wife goes, well, it
depends how they died.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I guess dying young is never is always a tragedy.
There's not like a chill way. But I'm just curious
if they were murdered by these men or not.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, it doesn't say anything about that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
No, there'd be more, there'd be more info about the
prison and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
But can I show you a haunted doll? Yeah, it's
time for the dolls are living. I'm excited. Okay, So
every time we go to eBay we find a haunted doll.
This one is named Philip, and he's going for forty
five dollars. Jeeha, show us phil up, you got it?
(33:10):
Ras Okay, I don't hate Philip. He is giving baby
Sinclair from the Dinosaurs. Do you remember that character? Not
the Mama, not the Mama?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah no, no, not the mamas cuter than this doll.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
This doll? Why does he look like that?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, he helped a woman who couldn't conceive, you know
what I mean, Like he was a part of He
was loved by a woman who needed him, and that's important.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
He looks like when the Grinch is little, if they
shaved him, but like if they shaved every all the
green hair off. That's sort of what he looks like.
He's a little blonde. I can't really tell what the
hat is. Is that like a baseball cap or is
that a beret? Oh sloppy baseball cap looks at their
stars on the top. I'm not gonna lie. He's very androgynous.
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If you told me that was a girl, I would
believe it too, because he's got full blush. It's a
very bad hair guy. He's got lots of blush on.
But here's the thing. Someone who lived is now dead
and in that doll, and for forty five dollars you
can buy the doll that comes with the ghost of
a formerly living person. So here's what it says about Philip.
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It says he may look like a sweet faced toddler
touching his favorite Teddy Bears, but don't let his innocent
appearance fool you. This spirited little boy has a presence
that's far from ordinary. Behind those wide, icy blue eyes
is a childlike energy that's been known to tug gently
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on your clothes, oh my god, hide small objects, or
even giggle faintly when no one is around. He's believed
to be about four or five years old when he
he died. Okay, oh that makes it sad. Yeah, that's sad.
That's no longer fun. But he's most active if you
play lullabies, and several have reported that their electronic toys
(35:15):
turn on by themselves and they feel a dog on
their blanket and the dead of night.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh my god, Look he has a piece of material
in his fucking little fist. Look at his fist. Is
that he's holding something.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
He's holding like a piece of the bear.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That motherfucker. I don't like Philip no more.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
If I woke up in the middle of night and
this little hairless grinch is tugging on my bed and
can't go like the window, I don't even know what
I would do.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Would out the window.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I wonder if he's porcelain, because I would get a hammer.
I don't like this. I don't like this doll, and
I truly believe that it's haunted. Can I play some
ghost voices?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Please?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It's time for ev or ev plice. Okay, so EVP
electronic voice phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'm Philip's not looking at.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Us now, God, thank god.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Do you think someone's living in this guy? Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
My Liberaci doll? No, I wish I wish actual Liberaci
was in there. That would be so cute. Okay, So
I've got two voices for you that are allegedly ghost
speaking that somebody captured and plopped up on YouTube. These
are both from the same place It's a YouTube channel
(36:38):
called a Haunting. We will go, Okay, paranormal and this
first one is at Yorktown Memorial Hospital in Yorktown, Texas.
I look this place up. It looks terrifying.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Would you marry someone that didn't believe in ghosts?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Absolutely? I would prefer that. I don't need some guy
being like my first wife's coming back. Okay, here we go.
What is this ghost saying at the Yorktown Memorial Hospital
in Yorktown, Texas? Play it again.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I want something horny horny ghosts.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
You think it's saying horny? I know, you think it's
like I want, I want.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Did you read the Scary story where scary stories are
telling the dog? No? But I tried to watch a
documentary about that, but it was not very good. But no,
like a nurse was. You know, when people are dying
in the hospital, a lot of people have their last words.
And so this woman confessed to like falsely accusing like
(37:56):
a young black boy of doing something he didn't do,
and he got like lynched and murdered. And it was
because she was jealous of his sister's dresses, like they
were cute dresses, and so she got this little boy murdered,
and the nurse goes, well, I don't forgive you. The
only person that will is like the fucking devil, Like
I'm not I'm not like releasing you of this. And
(38:18):
then the woman says, well, because I've been seeing visions
of a little black boy in my room and so
at the foot of the bed, this boy was waiting
for her.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah. Again, it's like, you're about to be on the
same plane as me.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah. I'm getting chills even just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
But this is a real story.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It's like, uh, you know, like a nurse said that
that's happened. Yeah, this woman was like seeing this boy
that she fucking falsely accused of something stupid.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
That got him murdered.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
You're gonna have to She got to live with it
forever and wanted the nurse to be like, you're good,
and she went fuck you. Yeah, and yeah, now they're
gonna be on the same plane.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Well, what's a nurse gonna do? What do you think
the nurse is gonna do about that? Honey, that's your
problem problem. You could just falsely accuse somebody in a
racial way and then they die, and then the nurse
is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Like, okay, no problem, dear.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
How's your pillow? No?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
No, fuck up? So you didn't hear that one? So
I brought a ghost story to you. It feels good,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Okay, Wait, let's we're gonna guess what this ghost is saying.
So you think it's just saying I want.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, I don't hear the next part, but it is
giving me shivers, like I don't want to keep listening.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well, did they think it was a whoa? You know,
like when you're in you know, like you know, when
you're dramatic and you say, oh but with two syllables?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Okay, okay was it?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
That?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
B at work? See Edward or d air one?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Let's hear it again. Okay, maybe it's Edward. Now I
think it's I want. Sorry, those options are not for me.
Why did they think they heard?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
They think it was be at work? Okay, let's listen
at work?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Why would the ghost be at work? Or is he
trying to solve a crime?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
This ghost? Yeah, this ghost? Or maybe he was like, yes, work, Yeah,
that feels more like it. Yeah, Okay, this next place,
this place seems a little bit juicy from what I've
read about it it's a former bordello, which I first
of all love that word, and it's in Texas. It's
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called Miss Hattie's Bordello. Uh oh. And this one has
like kind of a juicy story, but it also seems
like it's a wise tale based on what I've read.
But nonetheless, all we know is that allegedly it was
at one point a brothel bordello. And this person on
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ghost Texas dot Com says the current location that we
know of is Miss Hatties also houses Legend Jewelers. A
guy named Mark Priest owns the Miss Hattie's Museum and
jewelry store. They say the place is very haunted. The
articles that I have read, according to this person says,
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the reported activity at this location listed wispy apparitions appearing
in mirrors, people being touched shadows, ghosts having drinks at
the restaurant, and alarms going off for no reason. Other
paranormal claims include objects moving on their own, such as
pots and pans dropping off of their hooks in the kitchen,
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jewels and the jewelry shop going missing only to reappear
the next day, and tourists catching extra people in their photographs.
Also whispers and coldspots of ghost shit, you know, like
all the ghost stuff. Okay, so what is this one
saying at Miss Hattie's place in Belton, Texas? Okay, it's
(42:12):
also a whisper kind of sounds like the person from
the first one. I don't hear anything. It's like, what
are the options? Did they think it was A that
cat hates me? B I had to sleep, C you
(42:38):
can't see, or D you can't Sorry, queen.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I had to sleep. You can't sleep. We're the sleep one.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
I had to sleep. They believe it is you can't see.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
It's honestly creeping me the fuck out.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I know, isn't it weird? Especially just the thought of, like,
all of a sudden, you're listening back to your recording
and you like hear that I would move.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I just like, you know, I'm here, I'm being fun.
I'm like, maybe I want to see a ghost, and
then I hear one little snippet of that and I go,
I don't want that in my life.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
That's how I feel all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You get it the fuck away from me, shivers up
and down. I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Because I just this YouTube channel where I go stay
in haunted hotel rooms by myself. It's so funny there.
I pick up my out bets, I think about what
kind of snacks I'm gonna bring with me. Then the
second I get in that room, I'm like, what the
fuck am I doing? I don't want to be here.
I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to
see nothing. But like I do, you know, it's like
(43:37):
I want it, but like I don't. Like this is
this is where I believe in AI. If I can
make a fake version of me that can go do
that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, but the ghosts so they don't want to fuck
with AI.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
They don't care. They could tell.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I forgot who the actor was, but they were doing
press for something and he was saying that while he
was working somewhere, they put him in this hotel that
was haunted, and he saw the dead girl at the
foot of his bed and he ran down to the
lobby and they go, oh, yeah, she died in there,
so that's what you expect. And he's like, fuck that
checked out, went to a different hotel that sucked, and
(44:11):
he came back to the haunted one.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
He goes, yeah, I gotta go back here. It was
just better.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It was just a nice hotel, and he didn't want
to rough it, so he came back to the haunted one.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I had a scenario like that where I was filming
in a haunted place and I was trying my darnedest
to find another hotel that wasn't haunted, and every single
place that I looked up, because it was just in
a small town, every single place that I looked up,
I typed in the name of the hotel and then
(44:41):
haunted after and every place was like, this place is
so hot, Like the whole town was haunted. Wow. So
I'm like, I, yes, I get this one. At least
I won't have to move my bags and stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It was awful. I hate it, but I'm so happy
you're here. I love you. I love you.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
This was great. Yeah, I had fun.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
What's going on? Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Where?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
What do you want people to know?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Please watch my special on Netflix, Yes Night Owl yea
an hour of laughs taped in New York. I have
a podcast on this network called That's Messed Up, an
SVU podcast. So if you're into SVU true crime or
the art of acting, because.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
With Kara Klank, Yes, who's been on this pod twice
one time with you.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, did we do murders when we were here?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
No, we talked about the Pasca goula Ufo, yes, which
is the hot guy and his friend that encountered a ghost.
Sorry a ufo.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yes, I loved that. And then and then that's it,
and I'm on the road. I'm really out and about all.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Over the place.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna be in Australia and New Zealand and July.
So I'm going cross continental.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Oh my god, I want to do that and find
someone to marry.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Well, that's the goal. I'm also scared they're not going
to let me back in. I don't know what's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
I know uh.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Anyway, but I have my naturalization certificate. We'll see, We'll
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Just hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It says born in Ukraine on my passport. You know
they're going to send me to Panama, Like I'm never
coming back.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Do you watch Natalia Grace?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Not yet, I have to. I hear so much about
it and she's getting spit. There's spin offs like people
love this little bitch.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
I feel like not enough.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
But is it like the Impost, like she lied, he lied,
someone's lying, someone's abusive. Is she old? Is she young?
Like I can't wait?
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I think yeah, I think it's by the end of it,
you kind of are like, okay, this is the situation.
But basically, yes, the story went that she was adopted
from Ukraine and she was Oh, she's really an older
woman pretending to be a little girl. That's what the
people that adopted her said, because she had a bush
(47:01):
and they they talk a lot about her bush. There's
a lot of talk about in Italian crazy this book.
But then as you watch it more, you realize, Okay,
these people were nuts.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
And she was just a kid.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I don't want to ruin I set.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's a little bit of everything. Okay, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
It is kind of a little bit of everything, sort
of because it's unclear. The records are hard to you know,
but I think they I think it's solved at this point.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Okay, Yeah, I gotta watch it. Because you've seen the impostor.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
That documentary from years ago.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, that was interesting that there's another real life case
of like this little liar. But I like it. I
like it, But nothing is scarier. I mean, so many
things are scary, but the idea of like you're pretending
to be someone and you know that they know it's
not you, but they have to pretend because they killed
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the person, like.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Hilary, Oh fascinating.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
That was the impostor where it's like he's like, oh,
I'm going to pretend to be this missing boy and
and all of a sudden he realizes like, oh, they
know I'm not him, but they murdered his ass, so
I need to get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, Oh that's good. But any any type of thing
of trapter who am I with?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yesterday?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
My Uber driver gave me a cough drop and I
just put it right in my mouth and then I
went and then he missed an exit and I went,
oh my god, that's it.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
But it was fine, this is it, this is it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I just bonded and he wanted to practice English and
we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
That's when you tell people I will haunt you, and
I have a resistant strain of haunting. No amount of
anything will keep me away. You can try it with
the crystals, It's not gonna happen. You can try it
with a priest a shaman. Nope, I'll lap in their
faces anyway. That's about it from me and you.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, we're done. Come see me watch my shit please?
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yes, absolutely a bust and the biz.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
You said you're my manager.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
You gotta hire Lisa, Lisa, I always see you. When
you say it quick, it can come out. Lisa.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah. One time I was brought up on stage as Leslie.
You know, people really have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
All right, Leslie. Ah, thank you Liza Trigger. She's just
so funny. She could just talk about anything. I love
her so much. Hey, I love you. I love you all,
both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you
(49:36):
to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has
been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal
experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and
sometimes I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted
(49:59):
by Raz at gmail dot com. You can send a
DM or voice message to the show's Instagram at ghosted
by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there, and
follow me Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and on
TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez, my senior producer
is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming
(50:24):
Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by
the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying
Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine chilling
Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography
(50:46):
by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling
Karen Kilgariff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle.
Listen to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez on the iHeartRadio app,
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What's that at the bed spooky? Hey, Juky, I'm really
sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I said, I nadas please hepoo. It's me Roz and
(00:30):
welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I
talk to people that I like about the paranormal. We
have got Lisa Trager on the show today. Lisa is
truly one of the best in the biz, and she's
also my exactly right sister. You may know her podcast
(00:56):
with Kara Klank called That's Messed Up. She's been on
the show before. She's always just she's just the coolest. Hey,
let me read you a ghost story. This one comes
from anonymous. Jeeh. Can can you give me like one
of those anonymous deep voices with like.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
A vocoder, like a voice modulator or something.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, sure, why not?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Thank you, hiro Was. I've never written into anything or
told this story before, but here it goes. My grandfather
died when I was about six years old. I remember
his funeral vividly, but I remember even more what happened after.
I was my grandfather's favorite, and I was almost always
(01:49):
by his side. After his funeral, I was at his
house playing outside alone and I saw my grandfather and
I started talking to him. All of a sudden, I
felt the overwhelming feeling of sadness, realizing he was gone.
He motioned for me to go sit by him on
the bench, which I did. He began to tell me
everything was going to be okay, and that he was
(02:12):
always going to be around. I started crying for a bit,
and he sent me inside. I saw everyone was so sad.
I never mentioned what had happened ever. Later that night,
my grandmother insisted on staying home by herself. People offered
to stay with her, but she didn't want anyone to.
(02:33):
She wanted to be alone, so everyone honored her request.
The next morning, we received a call that in the
middle of the night, my grandmother had showed up at
her neighbor's house all frazzled, stating that my grandfather was
at the house angry and causing a mess. The neighbors
were able to calm her down and didn't call anyone
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until the morning. That morning, my parents, uncles, and aunts
showed up at her home and it was ransacked. Furniture
was tossed around the house, Curtains were ripped off the windows,
couches were overturned. No one had an explanation, and my
grandma stated it was my grandfather who had done it.
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Some of the furniture was too heavy to lift, so
it couldn't have been her. It wasn't an attempted robbery either,
because nothing at all was missing or broken, just tossed around.
Everything was cleaned up, and no one ever mentioned it again.
I've tried to bring it up, but no one ever
wants to talk about it. They act like I'm making
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it up, but I'm not. I know I was young,
but it's something I cannot forget. I'm not really sure
that it was my grandfather, as there was always weird
things happening at that home. Maybe whatever there was was
sad that my grandfather was gone. Some of my uncles
had bad experiences there and would refuse to stay after
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sundown or spend the night because of it. When I
saw my grandfather earlier that day, I didn't feel he
was angry, so I don't know what it could have been.
No one in the family ever wants to talk about it,
and most of the people that were there are gone now.
But it's something I will never forget.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Say Anonymous that is weird, so there was already a
ghost there. Interesting, it probably was the original ghost that
was like I want attention to. I don't know, but
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my poor grandmother. That's a lot to deal with on
a night like that. Thanks for sending that, Anonymous. Just
a quick reminder that I am traveling the country telling
jokes at primarily LGBTQ. You establishments all across America. Uh
(05:04):
ros Hernandez tour dot com is where you can get
the tickets. The reviews have come in. People are enjoying
the show, and I am having so much fun and
I would love to see you there. I might not
be directly in the exact city that you're at, but
I'm the closest I've ever been. I can tell you that. Okay,
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here we go. Let's talk to Lisa Tragger on with
the show. My head you guys, I am once again joined.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
By Lisa Trager.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Boo, hi, oh are some of my audience members here booing?
I'm I'm wacky.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Today, I'm I'm energized. I'm energized.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Stud. So you're a New Yorker, you gotta be.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah the time, yeah, I guess I get more sleep
here if.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The time difference see that's nice.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, I feel refreshed, honestly, But I was up. I
was up at like seven thirty, but then I snoozed
until eight o six.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh, I was snoozing away today. But they call me
snooze and honey.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I always I have to snooze. I'll send an alarm
earlier just so I get snooze once or twice. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I love a good snooze.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I like being kind of conscious, kind of not laying
around that states. Yeah, I'll check the cinematrix for the day.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's well, Movie Grid is the original game, but Vulture
as a cinematrix every day, and it's a grid game.
So it's like nine boxes and then the categories are
up here, and then they'll put actors right here and
you fill in the box. Oh that's fine, multiple answers
for each one. But the more obscurior answer, the more
points you get, and you're trying to get.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Are you good with that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It depends who it is. So there's movie Snake, there's
different games. So sometimes I'm like top ten percent, top
eight percent of the day, top fifteen, and then sometimes
I'm just top fifty and it's fine, top eight, Like
it just depends who it is today. I'm like, what's
on Michael Fastpend or a movie that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Starts with a vowel.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But I'll get there by the end of the day,
and I don't cheat, and if I cheat, I don't
count the score. But like they have, but sometimes it's
like I don't know Liza Minelli's outside of cabaret. Sorry,
so it's not my day.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh call me if you have that one, Okay, I'll
help you with that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But if it's like a Robert de Niro, Julia Roberts,
Michelle Pfeiffer.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'm in right.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We got a Denzel Samuel Jackson, I all day.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So it's one actor every day, and no.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's three, ok and then three so it'll be like
one word movie movie that came out between nineteen ninety
and twenty ten, and then movie that was nominated for
an Oscar okay, and then here it'll have Kirsten Dunst,
Michael Fastbend, Rihanna oh Rand. Yeah. One time they had
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like a Rihanna Beyonce Taylor Swift and that was kind
of fun, but not that much because they don't have
that many movies, so you can't get that obscure.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, oh yeah, Battleship.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, that would be the one word. And then movie Snake,
which is part of Movie Grid. It's one actor for
the day and there's like a snake of categories. So
it'll be like a movie that starts with the n M,
a movie that came out in nineteen seventy to nineteen ninety, and.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
We'll be like all one person speaking of snakes. That's
my number one fear is a snake.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, I'm with you. I don't like snakes. Actually, just
did a petting zoos show as the stand up show
where you hold an animal while you perform. I held chinchillas.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh those are cute.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
They're cute. They're active though, so I have the cutest, fuzziest,
softest but they're running on you. Okay, like the beard
a dragon. They don't move.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh that's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
But a girl did two snakes.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Absolutely, that is Michelle Donna.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, you could pay me because of America's Next Top
Model and the education I got. I would persevere for
a job, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't think I could. Maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Wait, I have to tell you what happened on my
way here. I went to get some a coffee and
a bagel. Right as I'm walking, two hot guys are
making out and it's romantic, you know, it's early in
the morning. They're they're being cute. I'm walking. I see
a bunch of fucking I think they're my culture. We'll
see but like old immigrant dudes. And I could tell
they were not liking the making out. And so as
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I'm walking, I see them and one of them goes, ah,
this is America. You know, he's pissed, and so I
turn around and I flick them off and I go
fuck you. But the gay guys think I'm saying it
at them.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh no, So I keep walking and.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Then for something was I turned around and they were
staring at me, talking and I go, oh no. I
was like defending you guys to them, but they I
should have just left it alone. They were just making out,
but then we all started laughing. I go, no, I
told them to fuck off. They were being shady and
they were like, oh good, and I was like, yeah,
for sure, I'm like you can keep making out. I
liked it, but they thought.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I tell them they need to google you'd be like
I'm an ally to gay men, I promise, but they.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Know they didn't see what was happening or what those
guys they were making out, so all they saw was
a woman walk by them. Fuck, I say, fuck you.
Oh no, but I cleared it up. Okay, good, But yeah,
that happens a lot in LA wildly. These old dudes
always have something to say, and I am always there.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Oh yeah, no, I'm I'm so used to it. Well,
and that's like I'm traveling a lot right now and
people keep telling me like, aren't you scared of and
I am, yes. But also like in Los Angeles is
where I've had the most people just like shout out
slurs to me. Yeah. So yeah, it happens anywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It happened once since Silver Lake. It was like, you know,
some dude was being mean to someone wearing heels and
I went, well, they look better than you. Ooh, and
you know we had words. I will fight.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I like that about you.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'll fight. I don't mind my business. I'll get in
and I will fight.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You're like a little bit scary, like a little bit intimidating.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, and then you get to.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Know me, and you know I'm not, but yeah, you
are sweet, but you are intimidating, Like I wouldn't. I
wouldn't want.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
To a virgo. There's a sense of justice.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not starting a fight with you.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You can and I don't read, you know, if it's
like something about you know, but I've ever been in
a physical fight, Well that's it never goes that far.
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Have you had any ghost experiences?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
No, it's devastating. And you know I live in New York.
Now my building is for pre war nineteen twenties, you know,
like and nothing, nothing, just the radiators screeching.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean, I think that's probably for the best. You
don't want that. I don't, But I get enough going on.
You don't need like some ghosts.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You're right, You're right. I don't want to invite spirits,
but I want to feel something. Yeah, I want to
get a little wink from some of the other side. Well,
I also have never met my grandparents. They all were dead,
so like, I really want to connect with them.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Didn't we talk about you going to a psychic Like, yeah,
I wasn't, you know, I didn't really, I never did it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Oh I did it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh you did yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I gave her too much info. I you know, she
like ended up saying a few things where she misheard
me and she went off of what I said, oh
and not. And so then I was like, oh, you're
like a fraud.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, okay. So she took a little bread crumb and
she was like, oh, oh like you I'm picking up.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
On Yeah, but she misheard me. So it was just
like an obvious Oh, you're just making shit up.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's like she's she clearly took an improv and like
she's listening and trying to yes, and but you can't
do that if you're not hearing correctly.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No. And then I had a dumb bitch. I don't
know when I was here last, but I had a
friend die and this person I don't like came up
to me at a party and said, hey, like, I
have to talk to you, but like later, and I
went okay, and then she goes, do you believe in psychic
So I go I do it. She goes, yeah, we
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have to talk later. I go, great, like get out
of my way, and she goes, I'll just tell you now.
And it's like okay, and then she goes, well, I
went to a psychic and she started talking about my
dead friend and that he said that he really likes
that I forgave her and that we're working on our
friendship and that he's probably like all this stuff that
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my dead friend could give a shit about this bitch,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He came to your psychic reading to tell, hey, you
that we should be friends. Okay, you psychoba, that was
like my final straw with her final straw, and it
was like it was the Tom Brady roast. So you know,
I felt important and cool to be there, and I
mean to be like reminded of my dead friend and
then you lying and trying to manipulate your way back
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into my life through.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Visiting a psychic. Oh god, psychic, I hate that. Yeah,
I hate that so much. I think people can use
psychics to be like, well a psychic said, see, like okay,
I am convinced, like a psychic told me that a
man with brown hair and facial hair is who I'm
going to end up with, and so I have used
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that to manipulate men before, and be like, well, psychic said,
like is that you? And I think that's really fucked up.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't think people should be like because a psychic
said this thing, that means that now it's true and
you it's your problem.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But are these dudes like ooh yay, or.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
They like get me out of here? Absolutely, they are gone.
They do that that cartoon thing where it's like like
they're just dust.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But you want them to be dust?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No? Why no? I do this so that if this
is my version of like flirting, I'm like, just so
you know, as psychic said.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And then they run. Yeah, it's too much.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Here's what I like.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You should tell someone after you're engaged and then you go,
you know, a psychic and do this would happened? Do
you not go for blondes?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I go for anyone. Okay, specifically if they don't live
in America.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You like a long distance foreigner.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm trying so hard to be on ninety day fiance.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Ooah, you would be good on it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I need the airtime on TV. I think I would
be good.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think they'd be happy when they met you. What
country are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Europe?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Somewhere somewhere nice.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, here's what I like about you.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And there's many things I like about you. But I
like that you like a little bit of tea. You
like you like hearing like some drama.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, it feeds me.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So I tried to do some research to find ghost drama,
ghost trama. Okay, great, these are all stories I found about,
like first wife coming back to haunt, Second wife cool.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, God, I did an astrology podcast yesterday and for fun,
she does birth charts of ghosts and like dead people.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh yeah, anything good come up?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
She there was this woman Fritzie, who was like kind
of wild in LA and was like someone's neighbor and
she just looked all the stuff up about her, like
she looks up famous to dead people too, and like
because then you have the complete life and does the
full birth charts of like Audrey Hepburn and whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I feel like everyone in LA has a neighbor named Fritzie.
That just feels right. This first one's like kind of
tame and believable, like I could see this happening. This
story first is not really one where it's like her
ghost kept creeping up on me. Like it's not like that.
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It's more so that she married a guy and then
like shit started happening, like the house kept like falling apart,
and it was like, so this author Bianca Touretsky, she does.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
This an iPad or you just hit your laptop screen.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The way you're doing. Am I hitting it?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
No? But you are clicking. You're like, yeah, that's crazy
to me, is it? That's not a touchable screen?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
No, okay, I just click it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah. Maybe the audience could let you know how they
feel about this. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean it might,
but you're not supposed to be like clicking and clacking.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I was doing that. I just here's the thing. I
pay good money for these nails. I want to hear that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, do you scratch your head a lot?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Non stop?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So nice?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Okay, I'm just too gross for long nails. Wait a second,
what I just remembered, what did I do? You did
do something? Somebody told me one time. I was at
a party. Yeah, and people were like, oh, look at
your nails, and they go, I don't like long nails
because Lisa Trigger said and her stand up that people
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with long nails have shit under them.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I do. I do a joke about that. Well, because
it's hard to wipe. Don't you feel like it's hard
to wipe? It's like a whole process. It's different and
things get stuck under there. But you seem like a
clean person.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I cannot help you.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And you smell like fresh laundry.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Thank you. I can confirm there was no shit underneath
my nails right now.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I can't believe them taking it and running with it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Somebody you that's like I.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Said, don't shake the hand of a long nailed bitch.
I say the hugs only.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Lisa, you really fucked up my life because of that one.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, isn't it harder to do it? And you feel
like they're about to fall off? Like I met one woman.
She brings Latex clubs. She wears Latex clubs when she wipes.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh my god, what are these people eating?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Or they get bidets? A lot of them have bidets,
of course.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, that's part of the reason why I like these
European men. They are so cleanly. Oh okay, okay, So
back to this, So okay. This This author named Bianca Touretsky.
She wrote this essay story I don't I don't know
exactly what you call it for the Today Show dot com,
(20:00):
Today dot com, and it says, I'm living with the
ghost of my husband's first wife, So I'll basically summarize it.
So she meets this husband. The husband happens to have
a house in Saghart Harbor, which is a seaside village
on Long Island, and she thought right away that his wife,
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his first wife, Ruth, was trying to kill her. She
had been dead for six years at that point, and
you know, this house was like beautiful. They tried to
build it together the first wife, and she never really
got to see it, and so it kind of just
like sat empty for a long time. And then once
the man starts dating Bianca, then they're like, you know,
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let's spend more time there. And the first thing that happened,
she goes in there and she's like, oh my god,
there's like like it smells like poisonous air, like this
is bad, which was like the house has been sitting
for a long time, just empty. But she's kind of like, okay,
this bitch is trying to kill me. Okay. So then
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she has a dream that night that Ruth is Ruth,
the first wife, is still alive, and that she had
never died. She was in a coma and she had
woken up and she was looking for her family, and
she's like, who are you? And in the dream, Bianca
was hiding in her bedroom trying to stay quiet so
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that she could find her. She's like literally like hiding
as this woman's like, what is going on? Is my
husband cheating on me? Whatever? And then she woke up
gasman for air and her husband was like, I'm so sorry.
I was wondering when that was going to happen to
you because I keep having that same dream. So the
two of them they got headaches in this house because
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of the smell.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
And I mean, did they call anybody? They just went
straight to ghosts. They're not going to call one professional.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
They did, Okay. Then a tree fell in the driveway
one day when they were trying to come through, and
the way she interpreted it was you're now welcome here.
She also found she heard unexplained noises in the addict.
One time there was dead flying squirrels buried in the
laundry basket. What, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I was with a friend yesterday and she said what
I heard was I saw a girl get hit by
a car and die. And I go, you don't seem
that effect, Like what the fuck are you? Okay, but
she said squirrel. Oh, but I was like you, I
didn't mention it the whole dinner. I saw a child
fucking die. You waited till we left the restaurant to mention.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, this woman found three dead squirrels, not humans, buried
in her laundry basket, which feels weird because.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Doing this, you think he is Yeah, I think he's
a sick. Oh you think a ghost is able to
kill three squirrels and put him in a basket.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean, how would that happen. It's like they're not
going to die in the laundry, right, Like maybe they're
huddling for warmth or whatever, but like they're not all
three gonna die at the same time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I just feel like ghosts can do stuff, but I
don't think they can, Like there's a lere squirrels and
murder them one by one, yeah, yeah, and leave them
where she won't, Like, I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
There's there's a limit to what you can do and whatever.
Who knows. She says it seemed like the house was
crying because the water was seeping through the shingles. So basically,
this is an old ass house that's like falling apart.
So she kind of is like interpreting this as it's
the wife being like, bitch, I don't like you. So basically,
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after a few months, she was trying to tell the
wife like I'm here to like protect the family, like
I'm I'm gonna do my best. You know. They end
up getting married, and she mentioned her at her wedding
toast and everything. It seems like everything was fine, but
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then they like go back to the house one time
and the smell is back, and they go upstairs, and
as soon as they go into the guest bedroom, the
entire ceiling just caves in on them. No, it caves
in on the bed, like it was like dripping on
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the bed, and then it just as soon as they
walk in, it caves in. She says, the water was
leaking over, so the husband shuts off the water. We
pack up the car, we head back to our other home,
and she says, I think I will always feel Ruth's
presence in this house and in our marriage, but I
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wouldn't want it any other way. I mean, okay, maybe, yes, fine,
I believe all those things happen for sure, but I
mean the squirrel one.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I mean for her to be like I wouldn't want
it any other way. And it's like, so you're down
with the ghost trying to murder you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, it seems like this ghost is truly trying. But
here's what I always say about ghosts, that like would
want to kill you or what like, anytime you're like,
aren't you afraid it? Ghosts gonna kill you if you
kill me? Now I'm on your plane. Okay, Now I'm
a ghost too, which means I could whoop your ass,
like right now, if I punch, it's just gonna go through.
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But I'm saying if the first wife wants to kill her, huh,
that's not a smart idea, because now you're gonna deal
with with me being a fresh new ghost, and I'll
be able to whoop your ass. I can't really whoop
your ass right now because you're see through and I'm not.
But once we're both see.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Through, bitch, I'm coming for you. Ah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So that's how I feel about ghost.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The husband's truly a murderer. And then then living people
and then you meet up and they may the women
will meet up in ghostland bond and it will be
like a John Tucker must die.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I mean this could be That's that sounds like a
I don't know Sandra Bullock movie. Okay, let's get a
little bit juicier. How about this one from nineteen twenty two.
There's this really amazing blog called Notebook of Ghosts, and
the person who runs this found all the all these
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like old newspaper articles which are like kind of hard
to read, but basically these are all stories of the
first wives coming back. So from nineteen twenty two, the
ghost of his first wife throws a flat iron at
number two. So basically with this one, it was in Meriden, Connecticut,
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and a guy named Ryan gold Kerstein.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Not Connecticut, right, gold Twisted?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Are they twisted? There? Twisted? Well, so we're the ghosts, honey.
So basically he gets married again. So his first wife
died in nineteen twenty one, and then he married, I
guess in nineteen twenty two. That's you gotta wait a
little bit. But so he married, uh, married this girl.
She had been a nurse in the war, blah blah blah.
(27:30):
And then she says that the ghost of the first
wife passed through walls, doors and ceilings, and she's been
around acting very hostile. She said, quote, I knew it
was the ghost of the first wife. She did not
want me here, and I stalled off the inevitable until
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February eighth. Then missus Kay number two, the second wife,
reported that the ghost had been around. She was unpleasant.
She picked up in a flat iron and threw it
out her I like this, bitch the first wife. Yeah,
I'm on the first wife side. You gotta wait more
than a year. I will throw a flat iron at
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you if you you know. I just sorry, mom, if
you're listening. But I just hooked up with a guy.
I had not really met him before, and I was like,
if you kill me, I will haunt you. And I'm
resistant to any holy water say it will not work.
I will haunt you the rest of your life and
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I will make your life miserable. And I think I'm
going to continue to say that to people.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What was the reaction?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He was like, Okay, I'm not going to kill you.
And he didn't. It works.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Did he give you murder vibes or this?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No, no at all, but just to be said, just
to be safe. Okay. Here's another one. That ghost of
the first wife scrambled his honeymoon. It says from nineteen
twenty three. This a different situation it says, in the
night of our honeymoon, my husband told me that he
would have to leave me because he was haunted by
(29:09):
the spirit of his first wife. The statement, together with
other evidences of incompatibility, she related to the Supreme Court justice,
which resulted in a separation decree. So they got a
divorce because she was like, one of the problems with
this man is he keeps saying his first wife is
a ghost. So she married this guy. He was the
(29:32):
president of Amherst's Knitting Mills, and immediately after the ceremony
they left on a honeymoon. On the night of September eighth,
while in Millwood, Pennsylvania, she says that he told her
about the return of his wife's spirit, and the next
morning she left him to go live with her sister.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So she was like a religious woman. She didn't like
caring about the spirits.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Well, it's also just like I don't want to hear
about I don't want to hear about her, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And why didn't he bring her up until post wedding,
Like you knew she was haunting your ass?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Like it's one thing to be like, yes, I will
absolutely acknowledge that she was a huge part of your life,
you know whatever. But if you're gonna say, she's right
here in this room, right now, invisible, staring at us,
watching us get busy on our honeymoon. No, this is not.
We're not We're not doing a throat bole.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Here's another one. Nineteen twenty four. First Wive's ghosts halts
Chinese wedding. Okay, this was in the associated press. Uh
and peeking.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh like the duck.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes. So, First wife's ghost holds Chinese wedding, claiming that
she was pushed by the ghost of her prospective husband's
deceased wife. A Chinese bride to be caused a sensation
in the street outside had a men gate recently by
leaping from the idle sedan chair in which she was
(31:02):
being conveyed to her prospective husband's home. So she says
that the ghost pushed her out of the chair. As
the girl sat weeping in the dust. She explained to
the go between representing the groom's family and to the
crowd which gathered that as she was entering the chair
(31:22):
at her own home, she observed a disheveled woman following her. Oh,
she threw a disheveled suddenly she felt herself propelled out
of the chair. She felt convinced, she said that she
was under the spell of the first wife, who naturally
felt annoyed at seeing her former place about to be usurped.
(31:47):
After much persuasion, the bride was induced to proceed to
the ceremony, and there was no further mishap. So it
was just a quick little the first wife tried.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
She looked all disheveled, seem like this bride was like,
I get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But apparently she told everyone there, like just so you know,
I didn't just fall. It was his bitch first wife
that just picked me up, but through me. I want
that to be very clear. And I'm picturing like how
it is in like a rom com or something where
it's like this poor lady, she's like been running through
the mud, like stop. But that's so sad. The first wife, Oh,
(32:29):
I feel bad for these First wife goes, well, it
depends how they died.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I guess dying young is never is always a tragedy.
There's not like a chill way. But I'm just curious
if they were murdered by these men or not.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, it doesn't say anything about that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
No, there'd be more, there'd be more info about the
prison and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
But can I show you a haunted doll? Yeah, it's
time for the dolls are living. I'm excited. Okay, So
every time we go to eBay we find a haunted doll.
This one is named Philip, and he's going for forty
five dollars. Jeeha, show us phil up, you got it?
(33:10):
Ras Okay, I don't hate Philip. He is giving baby
Sinclair from the Dinosaurs. Do you remember that character? Not
the Mama, not the Mama?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah no, no, not the mamas cuter than this doll.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
This doll? Why does he look like that?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, he helped a woman who couldn't conceive, you know
what I mean, Like he was a part of He
was loved by a woman who needed him, and that's important.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
He looks like when the Grinch is little, if they
shaved him, but like if they shaved every all the
green hair off. That's sort of what he looks like.
He's a little blonde. I can't really tell what the
hat is. Is that like a baseball cap or is
that a beret? Oh sloppy baseball cap looks at their
stars on the top. I'm not gonna lie. He's very androgynous.
(34:04):
If you told me that was a girl, I would
believe it too, because he's got full blush. It's a
very bad hair guy. He's got lots of blush on.
But here's the thing. Someone who lived is now dead
and in that doll, and for forty five dollars you
can buy the doll that comes with the ghost of
a formerly living person. So here's what it says about Philip.
(34:26):
It says he may look like a sweet faced toddler
touching his favorite Teddy Bears, but don't let his innocent
appearance fool you. This spirited little boy has a presence
that's far from ordinary. Behind those wide, icy blue eyes
is a childlike energy that's been known to tug gently
(34:49):
on your clothes, oh my god, hide small objects, or
even giggle faintly when no one is around. He's believed
to be about four or five years old when he
he died. Okay, oh that makes it sad. Yeah, that's sad.
That's no longer fun. But he's most active if you
play lullabies, and several have reported that their electronic toys
(35:15):
turn on by themselves and they feel a dog on
their blanket and the dead of night.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh my god, Look he has a piece of material
in his fucking little fist. Look at his fist. Is
that he's holding something.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
He's holding like a piece of the bear.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That motherfucker. I don't like Philip no more.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
If I woke up in the middle of night and
this little hairless grinch is tugging on my bed and
can't go like the window, I don't even know what
I would do.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Would out the window.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I wonder if he's porcelain, because I would get a hammer.
I don't like this. I don't like this doll, and
I truly believe that it's haunted. Can I play some
ghost voices?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Please?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It's time for ev or ev plice. Okay, so EVP
electronic voice phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'm Philip's not looking at.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Us now, God, thank god.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Do you think someone's living in this guy? Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
My Liberaci doll? No, I wish I wish actual Liberaci
was in there. That would be so cute. Okay, So
I've got two voices for you that are allegedly ghost
speaking that somebody captured and plopped up on YouTube. These
are both from the same place It's a YouTube channel
(36:38):
called a Haunting. We will go, Okay, paranormal and this
first one is at Yorktown Memorial Hospital in Yorktown, Texas.
I look this place up. It looks terrifying.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Would you marry someone that didn't believe in ghosts?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Absolutely? I would prefer that. I don't need some guy
being like my first wife's coming back. Okay, here we go.
What is this ghost saying at the Yorktown Memorial Hospital
in Yorktown, Texas? Play it again.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I want something horny horny ghosts.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
You think it's saying horny? I know, you think it's
like I want, I want.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Did you read the Scary story where scary stories are
telling the dog? No? But I tried to watch a
documentary about that, but it was not very good. But no,
like a nurse was. You know, when people are dying
in the hospital, a lot of people have their last words.
And so this woman confessed to like falsely accusing like
(37:56):
a young black boy of doing something he didn't do,
and he got like lynched and murdered. And it was
because she was jealous of his sister's dresses, like they
were cute dresses, and so she got this little boy murdered,
and the nurse goes, well, I don't forgive you. The
only person that will is like the fucking devil, Like
I'm not I'm not like releasing you of this. And
(38:18):
then the woman says, well, because I've been seeing visions
of a little black boy in my room and so
at the foot of the bed, this boy was waiting
for her.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah. Again, it's like, you're about to be on the
same plane as me.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah. I'm getting chills even just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
But this is a real story.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It's like, uh, you know, like a nurse said that
that's happened. Yeah, this woman was like seeing this boy
that she fucking falsely accused of something stupid.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
That got him murdered.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
You're gonna have to She got to live with it
forever and wanted the nurse to be like, you're good,
and she went fuck you. Yeah, and yeah, now they're
gonna be on the same plane.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Well, what's a nurse gonna do? What do you think
the nurse is gonna do about that? Honey, that's your
problem problem. You could just falsely accuse somebody in a
racial way and then they die, and then the nurse
is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Like, okay, no problem, dear.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
How's your pillow? No?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
No, fuck up? So you didn't hear that one? So
I brought a ghost story to you. It feels good,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Okay, Wait, let's we're gonna guess what this ghost is saying.
So you think it's just saying I want.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, I don't hear the next part, but it is
giving me shivers, like I don't want to keep listening.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well, did they think it was a whoa? You know,
like when you're in you know, like you know, when
you're dramatic and you say, oh but with two syllables?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Okay, okay was it?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
That?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
B at work? See Edward or d air one?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Let's hear it again. Okay, maybe it's Edward. Now I
think it's I want. Sorry, those options are not for me.
Why did they think they heard?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
They think it was be at work? Okay, let's listen
at work?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Why would the ghost be at work? Or is he
trying to solve a crime?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
This ghost? Yeah, this ghost? Or maybe he was like, yes, work, Yeah,
that feels more like it. Yeah, Okay, this next place,
this place seems a little bit juicy from what I've
read about it it's a former bordello, which I first
of all love that word, and it's in Texas. It's
(40:41):
called Miss Hattie's Bordello. Uh oh. And this one has
like kind of a juicy story, but it also seems
like it's a wise tale based on what I've read.
But nonetheless, all we know is that allegedly it was
at one point a brothel bordello. And this person on
(41:01):
ghost Texas dot Com says the current location that we
know of is Miss Hatties also houses Legend Jewelers. A
guy named Mark Priest owns the Miss Hattie's Museum and
jewelry store. They say the place is very haunted. The
articles that I have read, according to this person says,
(41:24):
the reported activity at this location listed wispy apparitions appearing
in mirrors, people being touched shadows, ghosts having drinks at
the restaurant, and alarms going off for no reason. Other
paranormal claims include objects moving on their own, such as
pots and pans dropping off of their hooks in the kitchen,
(41:47):
jewels and the jewelry shop going missing only to reappear
the next day, and tourists catching extra people in their photographs.
Also whispers and coldspots of ghost shit, you know, like
all the ghost stuff. Okay, so what is this one
saying at Miss Hattie's place in Belton, Texas? Okay, it's
(42:12):
also a whisper kind of sounds like the person from
the first one. I don't hear anything. It's like, what
are the options? Did they think it was A that
cat hates me? B I had to sleep, C you
(42:38):
can't see, or D you can't Sorry, queen.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I had to sleep. You can't sleep. We're the sleep one.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
I had to sleep. They believe it is you can't see.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
It's honestly creeping me the fuck out.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I know, isn't it weird? Especially just the thought of, like,
all of a sudden, you're listening back to your recording
and you like hear that I would move.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I just like, you know, I'm here, I'm being fun.
I'm like, maybe I want to see a ghost, and
then I hear one little snippet of that and I go,
I don't want that in my life.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
That's how I feel all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You get it the fuck away from me, shivers up
and down. I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Because I just this YouTube channel where I go stay
in haunted hotel rooms by myself. It's so funny there.
I pick up my out bets, I think about what
kind of snacks I'm gonna bring with me. Then the
second I get in that room, I'm like, what the
fuck am I doing? I don't want to be here.
I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to
see nothing. But like I do, you know, it's like
(43:37):
I want it, but like I don't. Like this is
this is where I believe in AI. If I can
make a fake version of me that can go do
that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, but the ghosts so they don't want to fuck
with AI.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
They don't care. They could tell.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I forgot who the actor was, but they were doing
press for something and he was saying that while he
was working somewhere, they put him in this hotel that
was haunted, and he saw the dead girl at the
foot of his bed and he ran down to the
lobby and they go, oh, yeah, she died in there,
so that's what you expect. And he's like, fuck that
checked out, went to a different hotel that sucked, and
(44:11):
he came back to the haunted one.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
He goes, yeah, I gotta go back here. It was
just better.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It was just a nice hotel, and he didn't want
to rough it, so he came back to the haunted one.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I had a scenario like that where I was filming
in a haunted place and I was trying my darnedest
to find another hotel that wasn't haunted, and every single
place that I looked up, because it was just in
a small town, every single place that I looked up,
I typed in the name of the hotel and then
(44:41):
haunted after and every place was like, this place is
so hot, Like the whole town was haunted. Wow. So
I'm like, I, yes, I get this one. At least
I won't have to move my bags and stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It was awful. I hate it, but I'm so happy
you're here. I love you. I love you.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
This was great. Yeah, I had fun.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
What's going on? Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Where?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
What do you want people to know?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Please watch my special on Netflix, Yes Night Owl yea
an hour of laughs taped in New York. I have
a podcast on this network called That's Messed Up, an
SVU podcast. So if you're into SVU true crime or
the art of acting, because.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
With Kara Klank, Yes, who's been on this pod twice
one time with you.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, did we do murders when we were here?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
No, we talked about the Pasca goula Ufo, yes, which
is the hot guy and his friend that encountered a ghost.
Sorry a ufo.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yes, I loved that. And then and then that's it,
and I'm on the road. I'm really out and about all.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Over the place.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna be in Australia and New Zealand and July.
So I'm going cross continental.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Oh my god, I want to do that and find
someone to marry.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Well, that's the goal. I'm also scared they're not going
to let me back in. I don't know what's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
I know uh.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Anyway, but I have my naturalization certificate. We'll see, We'll
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Just hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It says born in Ukraine on my passport. You know
they're going to send me to Panama, Like I'm never
coming back.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Do you watch Natalia Grace?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Not yet, I have to. I hear so much about
it and she's getting spit. There's spin offs like people
love this little bitch.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
I feel like not enough.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
But is it like the Impost, like she lied, he lied,
someone's lying, someone's abusive. Is she old? Is she young?
Like I can't wait?
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I think yeah, I think it's by the end of it,
you kind of are like, okay, this is the situation.
But basically, yes, the story went that she was adopted
from Ukraine and she was Oh, she's really an older
woman pretending to be a little girl. That's what the
people that adopted her said, because she had a bush
(47:01):
and they they talk a lot about her bush. There's
a lot of talk about in Italian crazy this book.
But then as you watch it more, you realize, Okay,
these people were nuts.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
And she was just a kid.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I don't want to ruin I set.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's a little bit of everything. Okay, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
It is kind of a little bit of everything, sort
of because it's unclear. The records are hard to you know,
but I think they I think it's solved at this point.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Okay, Yeah, I gotta watch it. Because you've seen the impostor.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
That documentary from years ago.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, that was interesting that there's another real life case
of like this little liar. But I like it. I
like it, But nothing is scarier. I mean, so many
things are scary, but the idea of like you're pretending
to be someone and you know that they know it's
not you, but they have to pretend because they killed
(47:52):
the person, like.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Hilary, Oh fascinating.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
That was the impostor where it's like he's like, oh,
I'm going to pretend to be this missing boy and
and all of a sudden he realizes like, oh, they
know I'm not him, but they murdered his ass, so
I need to get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, Oh that's good. But any any type of thing
of trapter who am I with?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yesterday?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
My Uber driver gave me a cough drop and I
just put it right in my mouth and then I
went and then he missed an exit and I went,
oh my god, that's it.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
But it was fine, this is it, this is it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I just bonded and he wanted to practice English and
we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
That's when you tell people I will haunt you, and
I have a resistant strain of haunting. No amount of
anything will keep me away. You can try it with
the crystals, It's not gonna happen. You can try it
with a priest a shaman. Nope, I'll lap in their
faces anyway. That's about it from me and you.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, we're done. Come see me watch my shit please?
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yes, absolutely a bust and the biz.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
You said you're my manager.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
You gotta hire Lisa, Lisa, I always see you. When
you say it quick, it can come out. Lisa.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah. One time I was brought up on stage as Leslie.
You know, people really have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
All right, Leslie. Ah, thank you Liza Trigger. She's just
so funny. She could just talk about anything. I love
her so much. Hey, I love you. I love you all,
both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you
(49:36):
to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has
been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal
experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and
sometimes I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted
(49:59):
by Raz at gmail dot com. You can send a
DM or voice message to the show's Instagram at ghosted
by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there, and
follow me Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and on
TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez, my senior producer
is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming
(50:24):
Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by
the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying
Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine chilling
Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography
(50:46):
by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling
Karen Kilgariff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle.
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