November 10, 2025 • 52 mins
Roz is beyond spooked when talented actor, comedian, and author, Tyler Gaca arrives with ghost stories galore! Shadows crawl across the walls as the two discuss psychics, the Greenbrier Ghost of West Virginia, and Tyler’s haunting at a nunnery!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the bed? It's spooky, Hey jooky, I'm
pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I'm ghosted. I'm not nandases. Hey boo, it's me Roz
(00:30):
and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where
I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
So Halloween's over for some people, it's not for me.
And you know, I think, particularly anytime it's like sweater weather,
(00:51):
all I want to do is be inside, watching spooky,
spooky movies and hearing scary ghost stories. So if you're
like me, you've come to the right place. And you
know I'm gonna give you spooky all year round. And
you know, I just posted some of my ghost hunting
adventures on YouTube, so make sure you watch at Raz
(01:14):
Hernandez The Haunted Doll. I went to a terrifying place
in San Diego that truly made me quit ghost hunting
because it scared me so much. But I've recovered and
I'm back. I also went to a spooky, haunted former
nun convent turned hotel in New Orleans called the Bourbon
(01:41):
Orleans Hotel, and I posted that uh investigation as well,
so be sure to check those out. I got to
talk to Tyler Gaisa, who is just the cutest little cutie.
You know him from I mean Hugh John, TikTok, I
(02:01):
mean numbers Honey, TikTok, Instagram, all of it. He's such
a fun, spooky just like cute vibe. I love him.
You've seen his videos and he's on today and turns
out he's lived in a couple of hundred houses. So
let's just get into that right now. Here is my
(02:23):
conversation with Tyler Gasa and with the show. Oh my god,
Tyler Gasa, thank you so much for having me, Thanks
for joining us.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's an honor and a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I love your content, of your content. Stop are now?
Are you spooky?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm spooky?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Like where does ghosts honey come from?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So that was my username on TikTok when I first
got got started back in like twenty nineteen. Yes, because
I was working a full time job and I didn't
want people at my work to find the videos I
was posting online, so I was like, I need to
use their name. So I went live and had like
an audience of four people, and I was like, can
(03:11):
you all help me come up with a new username.
It needs to be like spooky and sweet, and so
we kind of workshopped ghost Honey together. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Have you always been a ghost like believer?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, enthusiasts?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, ever since I was a week tater top.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Where'd you grow up?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I kind of grew up all over the place I
was born in Oklahoma. I grew up on the East
coast in Virginia, went to college in Ohio, and then
moved to LA five years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Now I prepared something from West Virginia. That's not really
one of the places that you've been to.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It is. I finished high school in West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I know people are like, were you a military baby
because you moved around so much? And I was like, no,
my dad worked for McDonald So I was a fast
food baby.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, fast food baby, A little happy meal yes, Oh
I love it. Okay, yeah, no, I was like, I
think I was driving through West Virginia haunted.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh have you ever been to the the Mothman?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
No, it's like my dream to go to the Mothman
Festival in Point Pleasant. Have you been yes?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Okay, this is crazy, I've I've been obsessed with the
Mothman for forever, yeah, or moth day. We don't know, right,
because I will say I've now seen the Mothman's statue
up close, and it's they're ambiguous.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Down there, kicked up though, as well.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Caked, so it wasn't even on my mind. I don't
even remember exactly where I was going on this road
trip a couple of weeks back. Maybe it was I was,
I don't remember. I don't want to get confused because
I don't really actually know the map. I just follow
my GPS. But I was driving and all of a sudden,
I seatle sign that was like the Mothman Museum, and
(05:08):
I was on the phone with my friend and I
was like, okay, I need to hang on. Yeah. So
then I went to the Mothman Museum. They have so
much merch, every kind of thing you can imagine, Mothman stickers,
coozy shirts, pins, everything Mothman. And then there's the statue too,
(05:31):
and I got to take a selfie with and of
course I like have the ass like right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, I'm so jealous, so good, so jealous. I only
lived in West Virginia for like two years, right before
I went to college, but I like went to school
with kids who were like my dad saw them moth man.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yes, that's what I would want from a West Virginia person. Yeah,
they have to know someone that's seen it, or at
least claims to have seen it. Okay. So when it
comes to like ghosts and that sort of a thing,
have you ever experienced one?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I think so. I like, growing up, my mom used
to make us go on historical house tours with her,
like every weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now what do you mean by this?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So growing up in like Virginia, there's so many little
like houses and farmhouses from like the eighteen hundreds and stuff.
And she's just like a huge antique collector, loves history
and architecture and stuff. So she'd be like, get in
the car, kids, We're going on a house tour, and
like these are houses for sale. No, they're just like
they're like now they have like the little historical plaque,
(06:37):
you know, and they give tours about like the history
of the house and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
See. I'll never do that unless the tour guide is
dressed like the time period, right, because I love to
see a lady in like a colonial.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Of type bun.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. But then also like checks her phone.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like accent slipping in and out. Yeah, yeah, but we
would so we would do that, and then like every
once in a while, we'd go into a house and
we'd go into a certain room and my like my
face would turn green and I would get really dizzy
and I'd feel really sick, like I was going to faint.
And then like multiple times, the tour guide would be
like is he okay, Like that little kid's about to
pass out, And then as soon as we would walk
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out of the room or out of the house I
would be like one hundred percent fine again. And that's
so I've always felt like I was like a little
sensitive to those types of things.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, I think that's like a kind of psychicness. Wait,
it's called Claire sentient, I think, but it's like specifically,
I mean, I hate to say it, but that feels
like the worst one like that because you like get sick.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I just feel like I literally feel like I'm
going to pass out and like I get really weak
and can't stand up.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's not fun.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's like boo, I want to hear voices. Yeah, I
want to see shit. I did also like live in
a lot of haunted houses growing up, and like in college.
My very first ever apartment in college was an old
nunnery from the eighteen hundreds. My dream. It was like
a little house in Columbus, Ohio where nuns used to
(08:13):
go when they were sick and dying to like live
out the rest of their years together.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And I lived in the mother superior room. It was
like fifty square feet or less, no bathroom, and I
lived in there with like twenty other It was like
student unofficial student housing. Okay, so my friend was like
three hundred and fifty dollars a month work. Yeah, and
I used to have sometimes it was sleep paralysis. Sometimes
(08:39):
it was like I thought it was sleep process, but
then I could move, so maybe it wasn't. But there
was always like a headless man standing next to my
bed when I'd wake up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
A headless man, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And a plaid shirt. And I would see him and
be like, we roll over. And I used to see
him a lot in that apartment. You wouldn't be terrified, No,
I would, but I'd like pretend that he wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So what do you mean he didn't have a head,
Like explain could you see through him?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Like no, I could just see him and he was
like a large man and he just didn't have a head.
But I don't remember if it was like a stump,
just like wasn't there? Yeah, but he used to haunt
me in that nunnery.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now let me I just have to ask, because this
is how I always think. Okay, but was he like
a butterface? Like was the body of no, don't look
at me.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
No, Well it was hard to tell. It was a
big flannel on. I couldn't see the face.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And what way was it tucked in or was it
like you, more of a grunge load.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, it was tucked in. It was more like farm farmhand. Yeah,
big strong arms, no head.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Now what was he doing in the nunnery?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
See that's the thing, these nuns. You take away sex
from them and you put them all a house together.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm sure that he crept in there because his girlfriend
was a nun. And then one of then the mother
superior chopped his head off.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, that's dark. Used to see him all the time.
That's wild. And you just lived with it, yeah, like
didn't you? It didn't occur to you like.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's but like maybe I should, like I don't know,
call a priest or light some saying.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
No because I was like a junior in college, so
I was like I got bigger things to do for
an art school too, So it was like there was
a lot of weird shit going on.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Was this Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, but it was the same city as Ohio State.
But it was a small art college called the Columbus
College of Art and Design.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Cool. You should go there and do District West. That's
the drag club. It's so good. Shout out to District West, Columbus, Ohio. Okay,
so you said you lived in several haunted houses. What else?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I think my house in Virginia was haunted too. I
also don't know, Like I sometimes I think like was
it haunted or was it? Like my mom, like I said,
she collects antiques, like she would bring home like she'd
be like, I got a new seating for the dining room.
It's a two hundred year old church pew. She's like
that kind of lady. And there's like all some blood
on it, right, So like, what are you bringing into
(11:21):
our house? Uh? Huh? Like I used to hear things
all the time, like in the night, like cabinets in
the kitchen opening and closing, things like that. When I
was by myself. I remember one time I went downstairs
in the morning to have breakfast, and when I came
back up, my mom had like a shelf in the
hallway upstairs, and there was like an antique doll tea
set on it, like little iron rod table, little iron
(11:42):
rod chairs, and I like walked through the hall to
get breakfast. There's nothing there. I was home alone, and
then after I breakfast, I went back upstairs to shower
and it was set up in the middle of the hallway,
like right where I had walked through earlier in the morning.
What that spooky?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wait, but it had like the table and chairs or
what what was it?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's just like a little iron table and little iron chairs.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like for dolls, like a little dolls, but no doll.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No, no dolls. But they were set up just like
in the middle of the hallway. Spooky, like they had
been taken down from the shelf instead of.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
This is where I feel like I've said this many times,
but toy story. Mmmm, that is haunted. Dolls haunted and
you know it's that same thing where oh no, he's
coming out of the bathroom and like right, and we're
dead now.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And then they're like, he's coming upstairs. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Like imagine if you had Woody and buzz Lightyear and
all of a sudden they're not where you left them,
but they're still like dead. Like that's a ghost story.
That's a ghost story. It's a horror film.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah. My sister also saw like a little boy one
time run into her bedroom and go under her bed,
and she thought it was me And then she looked
under the bed and there was no one there. And
I was napping downstairs in that house. This is when
you were a little boy. Mm hmm. Okay, yeah, because
there's been times I hear these stories were like someone's like,
oh I thought that was you, and that's like, first
(13:05):
of all, I have a head, right, I'm not built
like that. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Let me tell you this story, Okay, because this is
fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Now, I don't know all court cases throughout history, even
though I have my gavel's, I.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Don't know all these court cases. But they say this
is the one time in history her history. So I
would say that a ghost helped convict a murderer in
West Virginia. In West Virginia sounds right. So this is
(13:52):
called the Greenbriar Ghost. You're familiar, No, but.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The ghost in a court case sounds famili so maybe
I do know it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Well. It's not to be confused with the time that
the devil was in a court case, which is the
Conjuring three The Devil made Me do it, which is
a true story about a guy that claimed he was
possessed by the devil and that made him kill. This
(14:23):
is different. Okay, Okay, so this is a ghost. I
got all this info from Atlas Obscura, which is a
fun little website, and Greenbrier WV dot com. They're very
proud of this story in Greenbrier, West Virginia. Okay, So
eighteen ninety seven, a young bride named Zona Heaster. I
(14:46):
mean we had to take a moment for that name. Zona.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's my new dragon name, Zona Heaster, Zona Heaster Shoe. Ooh,
Zona Heaster Shoe. She's found dead in her home, lying
at the bottom of the stair. She had recently married
a blacksmith. Now get ready for this name.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
His name was Erasmus Stribling Trout Shoe whoa Erasmus dribbling
trout shoe. But at the time when she knew him,
he was going by Eddie Edward.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, I would too.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah. So her mother, Zona's mother is like, sums off
with this guy. Okay, she says, you know she They
find out that this man he's been married twice, He's
got a criminal record. He was locked up for two
years because he stole a horse. So the first wife
(15:43):
he abandoned, along with her child. The second wife died when,
according to him, he accidentally dropped a brick on her
head while doing repairs. Oh, he's fixing the house and
accidentally drops a brick on her head. Okay, so this
guy's sketch.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Chi.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So Zona an Erasmus or Edward. They elope, and she
wore this high neck burgundy dress. This will come in
handy later because it's the same dress she was buried in.
The day of her death, he asked a neighbor boy
(16:22):
go check in on her see if she needs anything
from the store. When the little boy gets there, she's dead.
A doctor comes, tries to resuscitate her, and after he
cannot do it successfully, Erasmus, the husband is like, no,
no more, just leave her. It's no more.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You tried. We all try it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, you really gave it your best shot, like you're
a professional. And if you can't do it, yeah, just
stay back. And so they just ruled it as natural causes.
She just like fell on stairs, natural causes. This is
a young woman, by the way, uh eRASS the most
insisted undressing her for the funeral, and he said, you know,
(17:06):
she did wear that high neck dress at the wedding.
Let's put that on and we're going to do a big,
huge veil over her head with a big bow under
her neck. And then she was buried case clothes. End
of story. But then Sona's mother, Mary went to the
(17:26):
county prosecutor's office and she told them that Zna's ghost
had appeared to her multiple times and told her that
she was strangled to death. The prosecutor was like, okay,
let's open up the case. He just believed her. And
the prosecutor asked the doctor that arrived at the scene
(17:49):
that day, and the doctor was like, yeah, I mean,
like the husband didn't want me to like examine her anything,
but like whatever, I'm busy in the doctor. Everyone's dying
of plagues around me. So the prosecutor was like, let's
just take a second look at it. So they exume
her and they find that her neck was broken and
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her whimpipe was crushed.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
During the trial, Zona's mother, Mary said, quote, she came
back and told me that he was mad that she
didn't have no meat cooked for supper. But the second
night she told me that her neck was squeezed off
at the first joint. It was just as she told me.
(18:36):
End quote.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
After only an hour, the jury found Erasmus guilty of
murder in the first degree, and he spent the rest
of his life in jail. Good, a state highway marker
near the small town of Smoot, says quote the only
known case in which testimony from a ghost convict a murderer.
(19:02):
There's also been several plays and operas written about this story. Okay,
here's the thing. Everyone at that funeral was like, what
the hell is she wearing? Like it was sketchy as
can be. The fact that she had a giant bow
under her deck and a veil over her head and
the turtle neck. They're like, we were just at the
(19:23):
wedding two weeks ago, but I know all these people
that know her, because I'm assuming that his family or
you know, it was all her family. They were all
at the wedding. They're like, why is she wearing her
wedding Like that's so fucking weird, super weird. And they're
like why is Erasmus He's like why is he dressing her?
Like we know her right, and like they had just
(19:46):
met too, and so what was her name? Zona?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Zona? Poor Zona?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So I mean, I'm not saying she didn't come back
and appear to her mother, but the mother could also
have just been like, like, dig up the body and
let's look at it again, because something's going on with.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
The next red flag after red flag.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But instead she said, Zda came back. That sounds like
a great song. Zoda came back. Zoda came back and
she said she's she was choked and they took it
at court and it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Was right wow. So she's like, I didn't even like that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Dress, Yeah, exactly, and she's stuck in it for eternity.
I'd be pissed too. Yeah, here's another story I want
to tell you. Adele Singer. She lived in a house
that she said was haunted in England, and the house
is currently up for sale, and the people are saying
(20:44):
they cannot sell this house because Adele said that it
was haunted and nobody wants it. Now. Here's an article
from the Sun. It says she had said that it's
quite scary and quote, I'm not rattling around here on
my own. It gives me the creeps. She rented the
(21:05):
house from a tycoon named Nicholas Sutton. I love the
word tycoon.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You don't get that one of those anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I know he's a tycoon who's married to a Turkish princess. Okay,
and they've been trying to sell this house since twenty ten.
It was six million pounds, but they wouldn't shift on that.
And Sutton, who is the tycoon? Nicholas Sutton. He blamed
(21:34):
Adele's comments, saying, quote her comment negatively impacted future marketing
efforts and continues to affect the property's reputation to this day.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It could be just it's way too expensive, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It could be that could have something to do with it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Not to call adela liar, believe women. I believe her
that she said it's haunted, but six million pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
This tycoon is he's suing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh well, well not her.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Wait it says he's suing Strutton Parker. Who's Strutton Parker the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Ghost the ghost?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We have two ghosts, Stratton Parker Strutton Parker uh for
professional negligence under its trading name BNP real Estate Advisory
and Property Management UK Limited. That's who he's suing.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Okay, because they didn't tell him it was haunted.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh, it says this is back in July. I've had
this story sitting here for a second. I want to
know the latest. Ye who d they have?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Picture yourself? It is a cute. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Look at it's like a big old.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Oh that's it. That's a chateau.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's a chateau. I apologize. I should have said that
the tycoon is living in a chateau.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I imagine I was like adellas one person. It was
like a one bedroom fly and he's like, yeah, six minids, no, no,
wonder it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Didn't smell no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So she moved into the home in twenty twelve for
six months after making a fortune after her album twenty one.
The mansion was built in nineteen hundred and redesigned in
the nineteen thirties in an Art Deco style. This area
is known for ghostly tales. A couple fled the village
(23:27):
as their house was haunted by a face that would
fill the room, this huge face. This is a face
that'll fill the room. And the local pub called the
Green Man supposedly had a cat ghost. They said that
(23:48):
she blighted the property by saying that it's haunted.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Imagine she's like, yeah, I woke up hanging from the
ceiling upside down, like in Scary movie too.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Are you excited for the new scary movie?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I could not be more excited. I just watched last
night on a Faris' first ever movie role, which was
a horror movie from the man. It's called Lover's Lane.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh, I've never seen that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's like a hook hands slasher. Is it good?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, but I love a bad horror movie.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, nineteen ninety nine Slashers. It was a good time.
There's a movie called may have you ever seen this?
It's an early on a Faris like maybe a little
bit after that, early two thousands. It's about this weirdo
girl and she doesn't have any friends, so like she
meets this guy she's like, I like your hands. She
meets this lady, she likes her legs. She chops them
(24:46):
all up and sews together her own friend.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Is it on a faris is the weird?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now? She's like she works at I think, oh, she
works at the vet. They work at a vet together. Cute?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Please?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, it's time for the dolls? Are living.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Dolls were like one of my number one fears growing up?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, I would think. So you came out of the
bathroom and there was a little doll set.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And also my mom was like, look at this antique
doll that I found.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Its eyes are this is your new babysitter, right, I speaking.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh now that's a cute doll.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Columbus, Ohio. Somebody gave this to me. Bringing it all
back together. Shout out to the beautiful doll maker that
made me this. Thank you. It's really a doll that
looks like me. I've had many people make dolls that
look like me, and I need to bring them in
here in the set because yeah, I'm really entering a
doll era. I just bought a Miss Piggy doll. Oh
(25:53):
this Franklin meant, Miss Piggy. It's like this tall not haunted,
but so gorgeous of putting on a pedestal in my house. Anyway,
this doll is haunted.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Okay, y have you ever bought a haunted doll from you?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I have not, but my manager did buy me one, really,
and you know something funny, you should get his money back.
I don't think it's really haunted. I've never experienced anything
spooky with it. However, Literally last night I was in
my living room and I heard some like rustling, and
(26:33):
I was like, I hope there's not a home intruder
like this that would suck yeah, and that I was like, no,
it's not. But like that wasn't like something settling. It
was like a movement, And I was like, could it
be the haunted all? I would love to thange?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What's it look like?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
A clown?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Horrible, a terrifying clown.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Could you imagine if it was like if you had
the Miss Piggy doll and it was that one that
ended up being haunted, You know what, Kurmy.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It could be it could listen, the Miss Piggy doll
could be haunted. I don't know, yet I should, I should.
I spoke soon on that. Well, this one is not
a miss Piggy or a clown. This one is Margaret,
and she's going for sixty three dollars. Geeha, show us Margaret,
you got it? Ros there she is.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Look at those chief Yeah, she's you know, they come
in all different forms. I think what we usually think
of as a haunted doll. We're talking lace, We're talking porcelain, porcelain.
I wasn't expecting this.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
No, but it's all about the ghost on the inside. Okay, okay,
it's not about the exterior. This doll, her name is Margaret.
She's going for sixty three dollars. She apparently is a
Dennis the Menace character named Margaret. Now, I guess there's
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this famous cartoon character from Dentnis the Menna's name Margaret.
But this ghost lived as a human, died and then
was like that doll has the same name as me. Whatever.
I don't know, because let's just go along with it.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Is she crying?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I would?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
She has like tears streaks on her eyes.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They're just selling her for eBay, you better cry. It
says they come with bios. It's just the best Margaret
is a unique spirit, sharp tongued, clever, and full of sass.
She has a distinct personality that comes through fast and bold,
and she's not afraid to make her presence known. Her
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presence is assertive, but not hostile. More like a teenager
who always has a snappy comeback, a strong opinion, and
a hidden soft spot that owns reveals itself when you'd
least expect it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, so she's talkative, Yeah, what's she's saying.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This person went to a flea market in central California.
The vendor had no idea what they were selling. They
just said, she gives me the creeps. She always ends
up facing me, even when I turn her around.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I felt a buzz of energy the moment I picture up.
That night, I dreamed of a teenage girl sitting at
a kitchen table with a rotary phone, chewing bubblegum and
staring at me like she already knew everything about me.
Margaret was a teenager in the early nineteen seventies. She
had big dreams, a sharp wit, and a mind that
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was always one step ahead of everyone else. She loved
writing a journal's, reading romance novels, and listening to records. Okay,
come on, what does she do though? Give me something
spooky type with Seriously, they're telling us, well, I don't
need all this. She's perfect for a keeper who loves
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a strong personality. Yeah, we know this. So they've done
different things with her, you know, Luigi board. She she
speeds through spelling and common words that she writes our talk, weight,
listen and.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Ha not weight like w E, I g.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Aic. But maybe she just didn't know what you sell it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
If you're like are you there and she's like cow,
Well she's sassy.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
They say she's sassy. I wouldn't put it past Margaret
h Yeah, she gives you dreams. She can communicate through
a pendulum, a candle, everything, She's got it all.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Baby, Is this like a psychic that goes hunting for
dolls to collect? Do you think? Or do you think
it's just someone with like a great imagination coming up
with war?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You know these people. I think about it every day.
I think about buying a bunch of dolls from garage
sales and writing up a good bio, making a lot
of sixty three dollars on it. I think about it
every day. But you know what, I'm looking at the
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seller right now. They've sold two hundred and seventeen items
and they have one hundred percent positive feedback.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Whoa, so that's a lot of hanted dolls.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, and this place, this person only sells haunted dolls.
It appears.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Have you seen the TikTok where people are like playing
Charlie xcx three sixty five for my hont.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yes, I have, and I want everyone to know I've
seen it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You're getting tagged.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Some of them. I'll comment. I'm commenting just so everyone
here knows I've seen that. I love them. Yeah. It
seems like it's one guy. Do you know him.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I've seen him dancing for his dolls. He has like
five or six porcelain dolls.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yes, yeah, yeah, maybe we need to have him on
here and bring his dolls and we'll see what we.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Could get more.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Can I play you some ghost voices? It's time for
EVP or ev please. Okay, here's what I do. I
go to YouTube, I type in the words ghost voices
or EVPs Electronic Voice Phenomenal. So it's like you know
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when you hear a ghost talk. I'm going to play
two of them for you. I want you to tell
me what you hear this ghost saying? Okay, and I'll
give you abc D. One of them is what the
ghost under believes. It says, what is this ghost saying?
This one was posted by Mystery Portals and it was
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recorded in their garage. What is this ghost saying? As
clear as day?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Do you think your gay?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I think it might be your gay. That's pretty good. Wow,
that's not what Mystery Portals thinks, which is interesting because
now that you've said it, I think that is what
the ghost was telling Mystery Portals. And I don't think
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Mystery Portals wanted to hear it. Did they think it
was a you're myde b, you're a pain? See yeah,
come here? Or d whoop there it is?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Okay, let me hear it one more time. Now all
I can hear is you're gay. You say you're a pain?
Is that what they thought about?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That's what they think it is? You're a pain?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah. I would argue it saying you're gay. I don't
hear pain. No, No, okay, that was a good one though.
It is it's saying something.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It wasn't bad, but Mystery Portals, it's time to start
recording your insides.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, time to take a test online.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
There's a copy. Yes, I can send you a link. Okay,
next one. This is one of these famous haunted places.
I gotta get myself to it, one of these one
of these days. It's the haunted Shanley Hotel, which is
a NAPA knock, New York. What is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's a very different vibe abouts a child.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Waiting.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Are you hearing any words?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wait one more time? And it sounds like it's asking
for something.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I'll give you some options. Did they think it was
a I'm thinking yeah, B I'm in here. C I'm
Jacob yeah, or d my Facebook dac debated, debated, Okay,
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one of those, the one something I'm in here. They
think it's I'm Jacob, Yeah, I'm Jacob.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. That sounds like a oh yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
But here's the thing. They do have a five year
old spirit named Jacob oh in the building.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It sounds really good, saying can I go in here?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Can I go it here?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah? Something like that. Oh, that one's that one's spooky.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Well, my dear, since you're new to us, we want
to get to know you a little bit more. Okay,
I'm just gonna fire off a couple of things. Okay,
curious your thoughts Bigfoot. I want to believe that it's
he's real. Do you think that it's an animal that
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we've never experienced or do you think it's like a
magical thing? Do you think it's one guy? Do you
think there's a bunch of them?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I think it's like a type of animal. I feel like,
wasn't it like in twenty early twenty twenties or something.
Wasn't it like Trump released like the FBI Bigfoot files
or something? Do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I don't, but that feels right. He released the big
Foot files.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
They're like FBI files on Bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And what did it have to say?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Apparently nothing good because I don't remember. But if they did,
like an official investigation, I think, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I don't know. I really don't know. Every day anytime
it comes up, but it just depends what day you're
catching me on.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I agree. I'm the kind of person where I'm like,
I genuinely want to believe in everything. You know, lackness, monster, yeah, moveman, Yeah, yeah,
I know people.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
But that's different.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
That changes the story for you, right, But yeah, but
there are yeah, there are days where I'm like, that's
a guy in a suit, and then there are days
where I'm like, we need to wake up.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yes, he's out there, you need to listen to me.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Is there a conspiracy theory you believe? Like a fun one?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Could you imagine if I came out as like a
flat earther Most of them, no, there was the The
one that I feel like I can get behind the
most is that the Titanic wasn't actually the Titanic. It
was the another ship called the Olympic or something like that.
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But where they were like there was like a ship
built before the Titanic that was like incredibly similar, but
I had a lot of problems and like leaks, and
the Titanic wasn't ready in time, so they swapped them
out and like send out this damaged boat instead as
the unsinkable ship. Because there are things where people put
like side beside, like side by side images and like
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pictures of the Titanic and pictures of the Olympic or
whatever it was called, and then pictures of the rack
and like the windows match up the who they're not
the Titanic.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
So what happened to the Titanic.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
They're like, we'll just keep working on it and then
we'll send it out and then the song and they're like,
never mind, cut, cut, deletely never happened.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Literally, I have no evidence other than you telling me
this right now.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
And I'm like, I believe that. I like people said that,
that's real, that's real.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I'm totally convinced.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I'm probably messing it all up too. But the more
like conspiracy theories like that, I feel like, I like, maybe, Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
All I need is like one person to dedicate their
life to it. I don't want to do it, but
I'll listen to, like, give me five minutes of what
you what you've studied the past ten years, And sometimes
they can get me.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Sometimes, Yeah, the ones where it's like that one is
more like, oh is it conspiracy theory or is it
more like, no man is greedy? Like I believe that
they could have done something to say of course, yeah,
Like that makes I believe that more than I would like.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I I want to do like a shark tank, you
know the show how would do Shark Tank? But you
have to bring me your conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
To convince me. You have five minutes.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
You have five minutes, and it better be good that
and or like your haunted doll or your psychic abilities.
Wait a second, gee, had this might be too good.
We might need to cut this and no one steals
it may be serious. Isn't this good?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Gee?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Like paranormal shark tank.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I sit here and people have to come in and
convince me we're not.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Cutting this because this is you claiming that you are
the first person.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That has Oh so we need this on record, needs
to be on record. Okay, this is really good.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Is there a conspiracy theory that you believe in?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Well, now, I believe that the Titanic could never happened.
Which ones do I believe? I don't know. Let's get
back to spooky spooky psychics.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I definitely believe even psychics.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Have you been to one?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Oh yeah, I've been to a couple.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
For what reason? Like what kind?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I've seen two psychics. The first one was in Salem, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yes, you have to go to one there.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yes. I was on my book tour. This was October
twenty twenty three, and I had to stop in Boston
and I was there for a few days. So I
was like, I'm going to Salem I need to go,
And I ended up going on Friday the thirteenth, So
it was was it crazy there? It was so packed,
like couldn't couldn't even really do anything, but it was
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still really cool. And I was I was on my
book tour. I was simultaneously going through a divorce at
the same time, and so I like walked by like
a psychic house and like without even thinking, just like
signed up for a time slot that day with like
within the next half hour. Oh god, And I remember
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the uh this, this young queer gentleman pulled me into
like a little curtained booth. His ability was through charms.
So we had like a little bag of silver trinkets
and charms, and he like sprinkled them out, and I
was like, okay, Like as soon as he pulled out
like the charms, I was like, this is gonna be
very vague. You know, he's gonna be like steering wheel
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you're traveling right now, you know, Like I thought it
was going to be like that. And then like he
poured them out, and then he immediately for like the
next half hour just immediately started like diving into like
in depth about my relationship and my divorce. And he's like, Oh,
you're going through a breakup right now, and he knew that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Just from sprinkling his trinket.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, he was like, see this captain's wheel, You're going
through a divorce. Like it was really spot on. I
remember I typed it all out like on my notes app.
I can share it with you later. But he was
extremely specific. I was also like like having a huge
career change because I was like I was trying to
get into acting and so he was like but I
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hadn't even done anything yet. He was like, Oh, you're
like going into like performing, like more acting performing, and
like just to know you need to watch out for
this and like keep this in like like he was
incredibly specific.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh my god, yeah, I that's my first trinket sprinkler
I've ever.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Heard, never seen that before.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
No, that's that's amazing. Like so each one was like
what like a little like a charm.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It was like a little charm like there was I remember,
there was like a captain's wheel, there was a horse,
there was a star, like they were all just like
random objects. And then the way that they landed, like
if they landed a certain way or if they were
covering a certain charm. He was like, oh, this means this,
and like it's like it's kind of like the old school,
or like a new version of the old school, like
tossing the bones, you know.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, yeah, there's like a billion different things you could toss.
It's just they look.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Like different never seen charms neverfore drink It, never Pandora
bracelet charm.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But wait, this reminds me. Okay, listeners of this show,
I haven't brought her up in a minute. What's going
on with the Asparamancer? Okay? The Asparamancer is my favorite
psychic of all time.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Her name is Jemima Packington and she lives in England, Okay,
and she does it with asparagus. She throws asparagus and
she can predict things and she's hat she used to
there used to be a percentage that was like pretty impressive.
It was like seventy percent or something that she's her
predictions are accurate.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
However, she did say that Kamala was gonna win, and
I haven't heard much out of her, so okay, let's
look up Jemima.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's I'm assuming fresh asparagus every time. It's not the same.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, she says she cooks with it afterwards. Yes, okay,
you can't cook out all the future.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Hmm, that's all. She regenerates her powers. You have to
consume the asparagus.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I love aspara, the pee.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
It does not appear that she has been making doing
much press. There was an article on bristollive dot com
from the first of January where she did her yearly predictions. Actually,
you know what, this is kind of a fun time
to look, okay, she said, for Donald Trump, this may
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include a major health scare. She's predicting debts in the
royal family and the arrest of show business personalities.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Girl, that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You gotta be a little bit more specific.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Right, And it's going to be sunny in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Seriously. A lot of the predictions that she makes are
very British centric, which preach what you know, Yeah, I
love it, love all love everyone there, But what about me?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Right? So?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
She also said stock markets worldwide will be extra jitterary,
more royal debts, the culture of so called influencers on
social media will be mirrored in even more scandal.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I don't know. She needs to be more specific. I mean, yeah,
I'm sorry the asparagus. She didn't have a good batch.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
It happens. Hey, it can't be right every time, right,
is still pretty good?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, but I think it went down after she said
Gobble was gonna win.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
That's the way the asparagus crumbos exactly sautees. Have you
ever seen a psychic? Been to a psychic?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
A psychic?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Many psychics? Are you psychic?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You know? Are you in love with Sylvia Brown clips?
Do you know about this? She's like, honey the land,
I can do that. Yeah, I can do that all
day long. I'm not a psychic. I've been to so
many psychics.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, but wait a second, I wanted to ask you
a couple more. Okay, what about past lives?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Totally believe I really, really really want to do a
past life regression, like really bad. Every year. I'm like,
I'm gonna do that for my birthday and then I forget,
I know I should.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Do you have any idea what you think you were?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
I think I was an old bitter woman. Yeah yeah,
me too. Yeah. I just think I was like an
old spinster in a house, you know, And I am
now same? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
What about horoscopes.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Do you get into like all of more than just
your regular side?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah? I do, and I did. I did a podcast
a couple of years ago with these two professional astrologers
and I love it. So I thought it was going
to be vague, you know. I thought, like, I know,
like my my mars is in cancer, which means like
when I'm angry, I just cry, And so I thought
I was going to be like stuff like that, you know.
But they were immediately like April twenty fourth year, like
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something big in your career is going to happen, and
they're like you're gonna have a lot of sex this
next year. Like they were getting into like very specific things.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, and is it real at all?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I mean, this was I need to go back and
listen because this was back in like twenty twenty two.
But I remember like some of the things like as
they were happening, I was like, oh my god, yeah,
so this was going to happen the day. They must
have been like I think they were a little psychic psychical,
but then used like my birth chart. You know.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I recently had an astrologer tell me that I was
going to get famous on September eleventh.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
And it did not happen.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Well did they say that they specify which September eleventh?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yes, this upcoming?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
What oh?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
But they were like looking back and like, you know
in July, were you feeling this or whatever? And I
like look back and I'm like, oh yeah, I love so.
I kind of was like so. Then I was really
excited about like, oh my god, September eleven is all
going to change for me? And I fired everyone. Oh
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my god, I had to. I had to come back
to Jiha with my tail between my legs. I was like, bitch,
you're never got to see me. I'm famous now that
September tenth, right September twelfth, I had to come back
to Jiha and.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I was like, hey, I'm excitey yeah, I was just
joking with you.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Listen, that's it. Do you want to tell people things?
Where to find you?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
You can find me online at Tyler GASA T y
L E R G A c A.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Are you going to do more stand up?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I would love to. I'm still very fresh in you
to all of it. I've done two shows in California
or something like, I need to do it somewhere else yeah,
take it on the road. I'd love to do like
a little West coast you know, like Portland, Seattle, San Francisco.
You know just how I like doing a little tour.
But do you like it? Do you like going on tour?
Hate it? Hate it?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, I'm just kidding. I love it. It's my favorite.
I've been home for a couple of weeks and I
literally today was like, am I just gonna stay here?
I need to go see people?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (50:28):
I love it so much. Yeah, just go on the road,
keep working that hour.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Okay, I will, I will, But yeah, you can maybe
catch me in a future stand up show. I'm auditioning
and acting and stuff. Maybe you'll see me on the
big screen soon. But other than that, I'm at home.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Okay. Well, bye bye. Thank you so much to Tyler Gaza,
and thank you for listening. I love you all, both
living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
haunt me, haunt me came back. This has been an
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exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on
the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll
even call you. So email me at ghosted by Roz
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Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me
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Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and
Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the
startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.
This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
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Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
My theme music is by the spot chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying
Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the
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What's that at the bed? It's spooky, Hey jooky, I'm
pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I'm ghosted. I'm not nandases. Hey boo, it's me Roz
(00:30):
and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where
I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
So Halloween's over for some people, it's not for me.
And you know, I think, particularly anytime it's like sweater weather,
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all I want to do is be inside, watching spooky,
spooky movies and hearing scary ghost stories. So if you're
like me, you've come to the right place. And you
know I'm gonna give you spooky all year round. And
you know, I just posted some of my ghost hunting
adventures on YouTube, so make sure you watch at Raz
(01:14):
Hernandez The Haunted Doll. I went to a terrifying place
in San Diego that truly made me quit ghost hunting
because it scared me so much. But I've recovered and
I'm back. I also went to a spooky, haunted former
nun convent turned hotel in New Orleans called the Bourbon
(01:41):
Orleans Hotel, and I posted that uh investigation as well,
so be sure to check those out. I got to
talk to Tyler Gaisa, who is just the cutest little cutie.
You know him from I mean Hugh John, TikTok, I
(02:01):
mean numbers Honey, TikTok, Instagram, all of it. He's such
a fun, spooky just like cute vibe. I love him.
You've seen his videos and he's on today and turns
out he's lived in a couple of hundred houses. So
let's just get into that right now. Here is my
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conversation with Tyler Gasa and with the show. Oh my god,
Tyler Gasa, thank you so much for having me, Thanks
for joining us.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's an honor and a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I love your content, of your content. Stop are now?
Are you spooky?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm spooky?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Like where does ghosts honey come from?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So that was my username on TikTok when I first
got got started back in like twenty nineteen. Yes, because
I was working a full time job and I didn't
want people at my work to find the videos I
was posting online, so I was like, I need to
use their name. So I went live and had like
an audience of four people, and I was like, can
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you all help me come up with a new username.
It needs to be like spooky and sweet, and so
we kind of workshopped ghost Honey together. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Have you always been a ghost like believer?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, enthusiasts?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, ever since I was a week tater top.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Where'd you grow up?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I kind of grew up all over the place I
was born in Oklahoma. I grew up on the East
coast in Virginia, went to college in Ohio, and then
moved to LA five years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Now I prepared something from West Virginia. That's not really
one of the places that you've been to.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It is. I finished high school in West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I know people are like, were you a military baby
because you moved around so much? And I was like, no,
my dad worked for McDonald So I was a fast
food baby.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, fast food baby, A little happy meal yes, Oh
I love it. Okay, yeah, no, I was like, I
think I was driving through West Virginia haunted.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh have you ever been to the the Mothman?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
No, it's like my dream to go to the Mothman
Festival in Point Pleasant. Have you been yes?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Okay, this is crazy, I've I've been obsessed with the
Mothman for forever, yeah, or moth day. We don't know, right,
because I will say I've now seen the Mothman's statue
up close, and it's they're ambiguous.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Down there, kicked up though, as well.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Caked, so it wasn't even on my mind. I don't
even remember exactly where I was going on this road
trip a couple of weeks back. Maybe it was I was,
I don't remember. I don't want to get confused because
I don't really actually know the map. I just follow
my GPS. But I was driving and all of a sudden,
I seatle sign that was like the Mothman Museum, and
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I was on the phone with my friend and I
was like, okay, I need to hang on. Yeah. So
then I went to the Mothman Museum. They have so
much merch, every kind of thing you can imagine, Mothman stickers,
coozy shirts, pins, everything Mothman. And then there's the statue too,
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and I got to take a selfie with and of
course I like have the ass like right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, I'm so jealous, so good, so jealous. I only
lived in West Virginia for like two years, right before
I went to college, but I like went to school
with kids who were like my dad saw them moth man.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yes, that's what I would want from a West Virginia person. Yeah,
they have to know someone that's seen it, or at
least claims to have seen it. Okay. So when it
comes to like ghosts and that sort of a thing,
have you ever experienced one?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I think so. I like, growing up, my mom used
to make us go on historical house tours with her,
like every weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now what do you mean by this?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So growing up in like Virginia, there's so many little
like houses and farmhouses from like the eighteen hundreds and stuff.
And she's just like a huge antique collector, loves history
and architecture and stuff. So she'd be like, get in
the car, kids, We're going on a house tour, and
like these are houses for sale. No, they're just like
they're like now they have like the little historical plaque,
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you know, and they give tours about like the history
of the house and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
See. I'll never do that unless the tour guide is
dressed like the time period, right, because I love to
see a lady in like a colonial.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Of type bun.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. But then also like checks her phone.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like accent slipping in and out. Yeah, yeah, but we
would so we would do that, and then like every
once in a while, we'd go into a house and
we'd go into a certain room and my like my
face would turn green and I would get really dizzy
and I'd feel really sick, like I was going to faint.
And then like multiple times, the tour guide would be
like is he okay, Like that little kid's about to
pass out, And then as soon as we would walk
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out of the room or out of the house I
would be like one hundred percent fine again. And that's
so I've always felt like I was like a little
sensitive to those types of things.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, I think that's like a kind of psychicness. Wait,
it's called Claire sentient, I think, but it's like specifically,
I mean, I hate to say it, but that feels
like the worst one like that because you like get sick.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I just feel like I literally feel like I'm
going to pass out and like I get really weak
and can't stand up.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's not fun.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's like boo, I want to hear voices. Yeah, I
want to see shit. I did also like live in
a lot of haunted houses growing up, and like in college.
My very first ever apartment in college was an old
nunnery from the eighteen hundreds. My dream. It was like
a little house in Columbus, Ohio where nuns used to
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go when they were sick and dying to like live
out the rest of their years together.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And I lived in the mother superior room. It was
like fifty square feet or less, no bathroom, and I
lived in there with like twenty other It was like
student unofficial student housing. Okay, so my friend was like
three hundred and fifty dollars a month work. Yeah, and
I used to have sometimes it was sleep paralysis. Sometimes
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it was like I thought it was sleep process, but
then I could move, so maybe it wasn't. But there
was always like a headless man standing next to my
bed when I'd wake up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
A headless man, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And a plaid shirt. And I would see him and
be like, we roll over. And I used to see
him a lot in that apartment. You wouldn't be terrified, No,
I would, but I'd like pretend that he wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So what do you mean he didn't have a head,
Like explain could you see through him?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Like no, I could just see him and he was
like a large man and he just didn't have a head.
But I don't remember if it was like a stump,
just like wasn't there? Yeah, but he used to haunt
me in that nunnery.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now let me I just have to ask, because this
is how I always think. Okay, but was he like
a butterface? Like was the body of no, don't look
at me.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
No, Well it was hard to tell. It was a
big flannel on. I couldn't see the face.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And what way was it tucked in or was it
like you, more of a grunge load.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, it was tucked in. It was more like farm farmhand. Yeah,
big strong arms, no head.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Now what was he doing in the nunnery?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
See that's the thing, these nuns. You take away sex
from them and you put them all a house together.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm sure that he crept in there because his girlfriend
was a nun. And then one of then the mother
superior chopped his head off.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, that's dark. Used to see him all the time.
That's wild. And you just lived with it, yeah, like
didn't you? It didn't occur to you like.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's but like maybe I should, like I don't know,
call a priest or light some saying.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
No because I was like a junior in college, so
I was like I got bigger things to do for
an art school too, So it was like there was
a lot of weird shit going on.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Was this Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, but it was the same city as Ohio State.
But it was a small art college called the Columbus
College of Art and Design.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Cool. You should go there and do District West. That's
the drag club. It's so good. Shout out to District West, Columbus, Ohio. Okay,
so you said you lived in several haunted houses. What else?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I think my house in Virginia was haunted too. I
also don't know, Like I sometimes I think like was
it haunted or was it? Like my mom, like I said,
she collects antiques, like she would bring home like she'd
be like, I got a new seating for the dining room.
It's a two hundred year old church pew. She's like
that kind of lady. And there's like all some blood
on it, right, So like, what are you bringing into
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our house? Uh? Huh? Like I used to hear things
all the time, like in the night, like cabinets in
the kitchen opening and closing, things like that. When I
was by myself. I remember one time I went downstairs
in the morning to have breakfast, and when I came
back up, my mom had like a shelf in the
hallway upstairs, and there was like an antique doll tea
set on it, like little iron rod table, little iron
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rod chairs, and I like walked through the hall to
get breakfast. There's nothing there. I was home alone, and
then after I breakfast, I went back upstairs to shower
and it was set up in the middle of the hallway,
like right where I had walked through earlier in the morning.
What that spooky?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wait, but it had like the table and chairs or
what what was it?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's just like a little iron table and little iron chairs.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like for dolls, like a little dolls, but no doll.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No, no dolls. But they were set up just like
in the middle of the hallway. Spooky, like they had
been taken down from the shelf instead of.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
This is where I feel like I've said this many times,
but toy story. Mmmm, that is haunted. Dolls haunted and
you know it's that same thing where oh no, he's
coming out of the bathroom and like right, and we're
dead now.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And then they're like, he's coming upstairs. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Like imagine if you had Woody and buzz Lightyear and
all of a sudden they're not where you left them,
but they're still like dead. Like that's a ghost story.
That's a ghost story. It's a horror film.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah. My sister also saw like a little boy one
time run into her bedroom and go under her bed,
and she thought it was me And then she looked
under the bed and there was no one there. And
I was napping downstairs in that house. This is when
you were a little boy. Mm hmm. Okay, yeah, because
there's been times I hear these stories were like someone's like,
oh I thought that was you, and that's like, first
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of all, I have a head, right, I'm not built
like that. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Let me tell you this story, Okay, because this is
fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Now, I don't know all court cases throughout history, even
though I have my gavel's, I.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Don't know all these court cases. But they say this
is the one time in history her history. So I
would say that a ghost helped convict a murderer in
West Virginia. In West Virginia sounds right. So this is
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called the Greenbriar Ghost. You're familiar, No, but.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The ghost in a court case sounds famili so maybe
I do know it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Well. It's not to be confused with the time that
the devil was in a court case, which is the
Conjuring three The Devil made Me do it, which is
a true story about a guy that claimed he was
possessed by the devil and that made him kill. This
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is different. Okay, Okay, so this is a ghost. I
got all this info from Atlas Obscura, which is a
fun little website, and Greenbrier WV dot com. They're very
proud of this story in Greenbrier, West Virginia. Okay, So
eighteen ninety seven, a young bride named Zona Heaster. I
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mean we had to take a moment for that name. Zona.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's my new dragon name, Zona Heaster, Zona Heaster Shoe. Ooh,
Zona Heaster Shoe. She's found dead in her home, lying
at the bottom of the stair. She had recently married
a blacksmith. Now get ready for this name.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
His name was Erasmus Stribling Trout Shoe whoa Erasmus dribbling
trout shoe. But at the time when she knew him,
he was going by Eddie Edward.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, I would too.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah. So her mother, Zona's mother is like, sums off
with this guy. Okay, she says, you know she They
find out that this man he's been married twice, He's
got a criminal record. He was locked up for two
years because he stole a horse. So the first wife
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he abandoned, along with her child. The second wife died when,
according to him, he accidentally dropped a brick on her
head while doing repairs. Oh, he's fixing the house and
accidentally drops a brick on her head. Okay, so this
guy's sketch.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Chi.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So Zona an Erasmus or Edward. They elope, and she
wore this high neck burgundy dress. This will come in
handy later because it's the same dress she was buried in.
The day of her death, he asked a neighbor boy
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go check in on her see if she needs anything
from the store. When the little boy gets there, she's dead.
A doctor comes, tries to resuscitate her, and after he
cannot do it successfully, Erasmus, the husband is like, no,
no more, just leave her. It's no more.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You tried. We all try it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, you really gave it your best shot, like you're
a professional. And if you can't do it, yeah, just
stay back. And so they just ruled it as natural causes.
She just like fell on stairs, natural causes. This is
a young woman, by the way, uh eRASS the most
insisted undressing her for the funeral, and he said, you know,
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she did wear that high neck dress at the wedding.
Let's put that on and we're going to do a big,
huge veil over her head with a big bow under
her neck. And then she was buried case clothes. End
of story. But then Sona's mother, Mary went to the
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county prosecutor's office and she told them that Zna's ghost
had appeared to her multiple times and told her that
she was strangled to death. The prosecutor was like, okay,
let's open up the case. He just believed her. And
the prosecutor asked the doctor that arrived at the scene
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that day, and the doctor was like, yeah, I mean,
like the husband didn't want me to like examine her anything,
but like whatever, I'm busy in the doctor. Everyone's dying
of plagues around me. So the prosecutor was like, let's
just take a second look at it. So they exume
her and they find that her neck was broken and
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her whimpipe was crushed.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
During the trial, Zona's mother, Mary said, quote, she came
back and told me that he was mad that she
didn't have no meat cooked for supper. But the second
night she told me that her neck was squeezed off
at the first joint. It was just as she told me.
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End quote.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
After only an hour, the jury found Erasmus guilty of
murder in the first degree, and he spent the rest
of his life in jail. Good, a state highway marker
near the small town of Smoot, says quote the only
known case in which testimony from a ghost convict a murderer.
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There's also been several plays and operas written about this story. Okay,
here's the thing. Everyone at that funeral was like, what
the hell is she wearing? Like it was sketchy as
can be. The fact that she had a giant bow
under her deck and a veil over her head and
the turtle neck. They're like, we were just at the
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wedding two weeks ago, but I know all these people
that know her, because I'm assuming that his family or
you know, it was all her family. They were all
at the wedding. They're like, why is she wearing her
wedding Like that's so fucking weird, super weird. And they're
like why is Erasmus He's like why is he dressing her?
Like we know her right, and like they had just
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met too, and so what was her name? Zona?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Zona? Poor Zona?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So I mean, I'm not saying she didn't come back
and appear to her mother, but the mother could also
have just been like, like, dig up the body and
let's look at it again, because something's going on with.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
The next red flag after red flag.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But instead she said, Zda came back. That sounds like
a great song. Zoda came back. Zoda came back and
she said she's she was choked and they took it
at court and it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Was right wow. So she's like, I didn't even like that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Dress, Yeah, exactly, and she's stuck in it for eternity.
I'd be pissed too. Yeah, here's another story I want
to tell you. Adele Singer. She lived in a house
that she said was haunted in England, and the house
is currently up for sale, and the people are saying
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they cannot sell this house because Adele said that it
was haunted and nobody wants it. Now. Here's an article
from the Sun. It says she had said that it's
quite scary and quote, I'm not rattling around here on
my own. It gives me the creeps. She rented the
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house from a tycoon named Nicholas Sutton. I love the
word tycoon.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You don't get that one of those anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I know he's a tycoon who's married to a Turkish princess. Okay,
and they've been trying to sell this house since twenty ten.
It was six million pounds, but they wouldn't shift on that.
And Sutton, who is the tycoon? Nicholas Sutton. He blamed
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Adele's comments, saying, quote her comment negatively impacted future marketing
efforts and continues to affect the property's reputation to this day.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It could be just it's way too expensive, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It could be that could have something to do with it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Not to call adela liar, believe women. I believe her
that she said it's haunted, but six million pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
This tycoon is he's suing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh well, well not her.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Wait it says he's suing Strutton Parker. Who's Strutton Parker the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Ghost the ghost?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We have two ghosts, Stratton Parker Strutton Parker uh for
professional negligence under its trading name BNP real Estate Advisory
and Property Management UK Limited. That's who he's suing.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Okay, because they didn't tell him it was haunted.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh, it says this is back in July. I've had
this story sitting here for a second. I want to
know the latest. Ye who d they have?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Picture yourself? It is a cute. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Look at it's like a big old.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Oh that's it. That's a chateau.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's a chateau. I apologize. I should have said that
the tycoon is living in a chateau.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I imagine I was like adellas one person. It was
like a one bedroom fly and he's like, yeah, six minids, no, no,
wonder it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Didn't smell no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So she moved into the home in twenty twelve for
six months after making a fortune after her album twenty one.
The mansion was built in nineteen hundred and redesigned in
the nineteen thirties in an Art Deco style. This area
is known for ghostly tales. A couple fled the village
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as their house was haunted by a face that would
fill the room, this huge face. This is a face
that'll fill the room. And the local pub called the
Green Man supposedly had a cat ghost. They said that
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she blighted the property by saying that it's haunted.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Imagine she's like, yeah, I woke up hanging from the
ceiling upside down, like in Scary movie too.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Are you excited for the new scary movie?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I could not be more excited. I just watched last
night on a Faris' first ever movie role, which was
a horror movie from the man. It's called Lover's Lane.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh, I've never seen that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's like a hook hands slasher. Is it good?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, but I love a bad horror movie.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, nineteen ninety nine Slashers. It was a good time.
There's a movie called may have you ever seen this?
It's an early on a Faris like maybe a little
bit after that, early two thousands. It's about this weirdo
girl and she doesn't have any friends, so like she
meets this guy she's like, I like your hands. She
meets this lady, she likes her legs. She chops them
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all up and sews together her own friend.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Is it on a faris is the weird?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now? She's like she works at I think, oh, she
works at the vet. They work at a vet together. Cute?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Please?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, it's time for the dolls? Are living.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Dolls were like one of my number one fears growing up?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, I would think. So you came out of the
bathroom and there was a little doll set.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And also my mom was like, look at this antique
doll that I found.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Its eyes are this is your new babysitter, right, I speaking.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh now that's a cute doll.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Columbus, Ohio. Somebody gave this to me. Bringing it all
back together. Shout out to the beautiful doll maker that
made me this. Thank you. It's really a doll that
looks like me. I've had many people make dolls that
look like me, and I need to bring them in
here in the set because yeah, I'm really entering a
doll era. I just bought a Miss Piggy doll. Oh
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this Franklin meant, Miss Piggy. It's like this tall not haunted,
but so gorgeous of putting on a pedestal in my house. Anyway,
this doll is haunted.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Okay, y have you ever bought a haunted doll from you?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I have not, but my manager did buy me one, really,
and you know something funny, you should get his money back.
I don't think it's really haunted. I've never experienced anything
spooky with it. However, Literally last night I was in
my living room and I heard some like rustling, and
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I was like, I hope there's not a home intruder
like this that would suck yeah, and that I was like, no,
it's not. But like that wasn't like something settling. It
was like a movement, And I was like, could it
be the haunted all? I would love to thange?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What's it look like?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
A clown?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Horrible, a terrifying clown.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Could you imagine if it was like if you had
the Miss Piggy doll and it was that one that
ended up being haunted, You know what, Kurmy.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It could be it could listen, the Miss Piggy doll
could be haunted. I don't know, yet I should, I should.
I spoke soon on that. Well, this one is not
a miss Piggy or a clown. This one is Margaret,
and she's going for sixty three dollars. Geeha, show us Margaret,
you got it? Ros there she is.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Look at those chief Yeah, she's you know, they come
in all different forms. I think what we usually think
of as a haunted doll. We're talking lace, We're talking porcelain, porcelain.
I wasn't expecting this.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
No, but it's all about the ghost on the inside. Okay, okay,
it's not about the exterior. This doll, her name is Margaret.
She's going for sixty three dollars. She apparently is a
Dennis the Menace character named Margaret. Now, I guess there's
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this famous cartoon character from Dentnis the Menna's name Margaret.
But this ghost lived as a human, died and then
was like that doll has the same name as me. Whatever.
I don't know, because let's just go along with it.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Is she crying?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I would?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
She has like tears streaks on her eyes.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They're just selling her for eBay, you better cry. It
says they come with bios. It's just the best Margaret
is a unique spirit, sharp tongued, clever, and full of sass.
She has a distinct personality that comes through fast and bold,
and she's not afraid to make her presence known. Her
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presence is assertive, but not hostile. More like a teenager
who always has a snappy comeback, a strong opinion, and
a hidden soft spot that owns reveals itself when you'd
least expect it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, so she's talkative, Yeah, what's she's saying.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This person went to a flea market in central California.
The vendor had no idea what they were selling. They
just said, she gives me the creeps. She always ends
up facing me, even when I turn her around.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I felt a buzz of energy the moment I picture up.
That night, I dreamed of a teenage girl sitting at
a kitchen table with a rotary phone, chewing bubblegum and
staring at me like she already knew everything about me.
Margaret was a teenager in the early nineteen seventies. She
had big dreams, a sharp wit, and a mind that
(29:46):
was always one step ahead of everyone else. She loved
writing a journal's, reading romance novels, and listening to records. Okay,
come on, what does she do though? Give me something
spooky type with Seriously, they're telling us, well, I don't
need all this. She's perfect for a keeper who loves
(30:09):
a strong personality. Yeah, we know this. So they've done
different things with her, you know, Luigi board. She she
speeds through spelling and common words that she writes our talk, weight,
listen and.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Ha not weight like w E, I g.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Aic. But maybe she just didn't know what you sell it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
If you're like are you there and she's like cow,
Well she's sassy.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
They say she's sassy. I wouldn't put it past Margaret
h Yeah, she gives you dreams. She can communicate through
a pendulum, a candle, everything, She's got it all.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Baby, Is this like a psychic that goes hunting for
dolls to collect? Do you think? Or do you think
it's just someone with like a great imagination coming up
with war?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You know these people. I think about it every day.
I think about buying a bunch of dolls from garage
sales and writing up a good bio, making a lot
of sixty three dollars on it. I think about it
every day. But you know what, I'm looking at the
(31:28):
seller right now. They've sold two hundred and seventeen items
and they have one hundred percent positive feedback.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Whoa, so that's a lot of hanted dolls.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, and this place, this person only sells haunted dolls.
It appears.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Have you seen the TikTok where people are like playing
Charlie xcx three sixty five for my hont.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yes, I have, and I want everyone to know I've
seen it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You're getting tagged.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Some of them. I'll comment. I'm commenting just so everyone
here knows I've seen that. I love them. Yeah. It
seems like it's one guy. Do you know him.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I've seen him dancing for his dolls. He has like
five or six porcelain dolls.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yes, yeah, yeah, maybe we need to have him on
here and bring his dolls and we'll see what we.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Could get more.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Can I play you some ghost voices? It's time for
EVP or ev please. Okay, here's what I do. I
go to YouTube, I type in the words ghost voices
or EVPs Electronic Voice Phenomenal. So it's like you know
(32:50):
when you hear a ghost talk. I'm going to play
two of them for you. I want you to tell
me what you hear this ghost saying? Okay, and I'll
give you abc D. One of them is what the
ghost under believes. It says, what is this ghost saying?
This one was posted by Mystery Portals and it was
(33:10):
recorded in their garage. What is this ghost saying? As
clear as day?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Do you think your gay?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I think it might be your gay. That's pretty good. Wow,
that's not what Mystery Portals thinks, which is interesting because
now that you've said it, I think that is what
the ghost was telling Mystery Portals. And I don't think
(33:53):
Mystery Portals wanted to hear it. Did they think it
was a you're myde b, you're a pain? See yeah,
come here? Or d whoop there it is?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Okay, let me hear it one more time. Now all
I can hear is you're gay. You say you're a pain?
Is that what they thought about?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That's what they think it is? You're a pain?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah. I would argue it saying you're gay. I don't
hear pain. No, No, okay, that was a good one though.
It is it's saying something.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It wasn't bad, but Mystery Portals, it's time to start
recording your insides.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, time to take a test online.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
There's a copy. Yes, I can send you a link. Okay,
next one. This is one of these famous haunted places.
I gotta get myself to it, one of these one
of these days. It's the haunted Shanley Hotel, which is
a NAPA knock, New York. What is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's a very different vibe abouts a child.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Waiting.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Are you hearing any words?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wait one more time? And it sounds like it's asking
for something.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I'll give you some options. Did they think it was
a I'm thinking yeah, B I'm in here. C I'm
Jacob yeah, or d my Facebook dac debated, debated, Okay,
(35:57):
one of those, the one something I'm in here. They
think it's I'm Jacob, Yeah, I'm Jacob.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. That sounds like a oh yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
But here's the thing. They do have a five year
old spirit named Jacob oh in the building.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It sounds really good, saying can I go in here?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Can I go it here?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah? Something like that. Oh, that one's that one's spooky.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Well, my dear, since you're new to us, we want
to get to know you a little bit more. Okay,
I'm just gonna fire off a couple of things. Okay,
curious your thoughts Bigfoot. I want to believe that it's
he's real. Do you think that it's an animal that
(36:54):
we've never experienced or do you think it's like a
magical thing? Do you think it's one guy? Do you
think there's a bunch of them?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I think it's like a type of animal. I feel like,
wasn't it like in twenty early twenty twenties or something.
Wasn't it like Trump released like the FBI Bigfoot files
or something? Do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I don't, but that feels right. He released the big
Foot files.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
They're like FBI files on Bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And what did it have to say?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Apparently nothing good because I don't remember. But if they did,
like an official investigation, I think, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I don't know. I really don't know. Every day anytime
it comes up, but it just depends what day you're
catching me on.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I agree. I'm the kind of person where I'm like,
I genuinely want to believe in everything. You know, lackness, monster, yeah, moveman, Yeah, yeah,
I know people.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
But that's different.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
That changes the story for you, right, But yeah, but
there are yeah, there are days where I'm like, that's
a guy in a suit, and then there are days
where I'm like, we need to wake up.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yes, he's out there, you need to listen to me.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Is there a conspiracy theory you believe? Like a fun one?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Could you imagine if I came out as like a
flat earther Most of them, no, there was the The
one that I feel like I can get behind the
most is that the Titanic wasn't actually the Titanic. It
was the another ship called the Olympic or something like that.
(38:33):
But where they were like there was like a ship
built before the Titanic that was like incredibly similar, but
I had a lot of problems and like leaks, and
the Titanic wasn't ready in time, so they swapped them
out and like send out this damaged boat instead as
the unsinkable ship. Because there are things where people put
like side beside, like side by side images and like
(38:55):
pictures of the Titanic and pictures of the Olympic or
whatever it was called, and then pictures of the rack
and like the windows match up the who they're not
the Titanic.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
So what happened to the Titanic.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
They're like, we'll just keep working on it and then
we'll send it out and then the song and they're like,
never mind, cut, cut, deletely never happened.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Literally, I have no evidence other than you telling me
this right now.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
And I'm like, I believe that. I like people said that,
that's real, that's real.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I'm totally convinced.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I'm probably messing it all up too. But the more
like conspiracy theories like that, I feel like, I like, maybe, Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
All I need is like one person to dedicate their
life to it. I don't want to do it, but
I'll listen to, like, give me five minutes of what
you what you've studied the past ten years, And sometimes
they can get me.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Sometimes, Yeah, the ones where it's like that one is
more like, oh is it conspiracy theory or is it
more like, no man is greedy? Like I believe that
they could have done something to say of course, yeah,
Like that makes I believe that more than I would like.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I I want to do like a shark tank, you
know the show how would do Shark Tank? But you
have to bring me your conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
To convince me. You have five minutes.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
You have five minutes, and it better be good that
and or like your haunted doll or your psychic abilities.
Wait a second, gee, had this might be too good.
We might need to cut this and no one steals
it may be serious. Isn't this good?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Gee?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Like paranormal shark tank.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I sit here and people have to come in and
convince me we're not.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Cutting this because this is you claiming that you are
the first person.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That has Oh so we need this on record, needs
to be on record. Okay, this is really good.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Is there a conspiracy theory that you believe in?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Well, now, I believe that the Titanic could never happened.
Which ones do I believe? I don't know. Let's get
back to spooky spooky psychics.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I definitely believe even psychics.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Have you been to one?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Oh yeah, I've been to a couple.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
For what reason? Like what kind?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I've seen two psychics. The first one was in Salem, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yes, you have to go to one there.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yes. I was on my book tour. This was October
twenty twenty three, and I had to stop in Boston
and I was there for a few days. So I
was like, I'm going to Salem I need to go,
And I ended up going on Friday the thirteenth, So
it was was it crazy there? It was so packed,
like couldn't couldn't even really do anything, but it was
(41:36):
still really cool. And I was I was on my
book tour. I was simultaneously going through a divorce at
the same time, and so I like walked by like
a psychic house and like without even thinking, just like
signed up for a time slot that day with like
within the next half hour. Oh god, And I remember
(41:56):
the uh this, this young queer gentleman pulled me into
like a little curtained booth. His ability was through charms.
So we had like a little bag of silver trinkets
and charms, and he like sprinkled them out, and I
was like, okay, Like as soon as he pulled out
like the charms, I was like, this is gonna be
very vague. You know, he's gonna be like steering wheel
(42:17):
you're traveling right now, you know, Like I thought it
was going to be like that. And then like he
poured them out, and then he immediately for like the
next half hour just immediately started like diving into like
in depth about my relationship and my divorce. And he's like, Oh,
you're going through a breakup right now, and he knew that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Just from sprinkling his trinket.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, he was like, see this captain's wheel, You're going
through a divorce. Like it was really spot on. I
remember I typed it all out like on my notes app.
I can share it with you later. But he was
extremely specific. I was also like like having a huge
career change because I was like I was trying to
get into acting and so he was like but I
(42:58):
hadn't even done anything yet. He was like, Oh, you're
like going into like performing, like more acting performing, and
like just to know you need to watch out for
this and like keep this in like like he was
incredibly specific.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh my god, yeah, I that's my first trinket sprinkler
I've ever.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Heard, never seen that before.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
No, that's that's amazing. Like so each one was like
what like a little like a charm.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It was like a little charm like there was I remember,
there was like a captain's wheel, there was a horse,
there was a star, like they were all just like
random objects. And then the way that they landed, like
if they landed a certain way or if they were
covering a certain charm. He was like, oh, this means this,
and like it's like it's kind of like the old school,
or like a new version of the old school, like
tossing the bones, you know.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, yeah, there's like a billion different things you could toss.
It's just they look.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Like different never seen charms neverfore drink It, never Pandora
bracelet charm.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But wait, this reminds me. Okay, listeners of this show,
I haven't brought her up in a minute. What's going
on with the Asparamancer? Okay? The Asparamancer is my favorite
psychic of all time.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Her name is Jemima Packington and she lives in England, Okay,
and she does it with asparagus. She throws asparagus and
she can predict things and she's hat she used to
there used to be a percentage that was like pretty impressive.
It was like seventy percent or something that she's her
predictions are accurate.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
However, she did say that Kamala was gonna win, and
I haven't heard much out of her, so okay, let's
look up Jemima.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's I'm assuming fresh asparagus every time. It's not the same.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, she says she cooks with it afterwards. Yes, okay,
you can't cook out all the future.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Hmm, that's all. She regenerates her powers. You have to
consume the asparagus.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I love aspara, the pee.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
It does not appear that she has been making doing
much press. There was an article on bristollive dot com
from the first of January where she did her yearly predictions. Actually,
you know what, this is kind of a fun time
to look, okay, she said, for Donald Trump, this may
(45:22):
include a major health scare. She's predicting debts in the
royal family and the arrest of show business personalities.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Girl, that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You gotta be a little bit more specific.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Right, And it's going to be sunny in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Seriously. A lot of the predictions that she makes are
very British centric, which preach what you know, Yeah, I
love it, love all love everyone there, But what about me?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Right? So?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
She also said stock markets worldwide will be extra jitterary,
more royal debts, the culture of so called influencers on
social media will be mirrored in even more scandal.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I don't know. She needs to be more specific. I mean, yeah,
I'm sorry the asparagus. She didn't have a good batch.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
It happens. Hey, it can't be right every time, right,
is still pretty good?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, but I think it went down after she said
Gobble was gonna win.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
That's the way the asparagus crumbos exactly sautees. Have you
ever seen a psychic? Been to a psychic?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
A psychic?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Many psychics? Are you psychic?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You know? Are you in love with Sylvia Brown clips?
Do you know about this? She's like, honey the land,
I can do that. Yeah, I can do that all
day long. I'm not a psychic. I've been to so
many psychics.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, but wait a second, I wanted to ask you
a couple more. Okay, what about past lives?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Totally believe I really, really really want to do a
past life regression, like really bad. Every year. I'm like,
I'm gonna do that for my birthday and then I forget,
I know I should.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Do you have any idea what you think you were?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
I think I was an old bitter woman. Yeah yeah,
me too. Yeah. I just think I was like an
old spinster in a house, you know, And I am
now same? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
What about horoscopes.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Do you get into like all of more than just
your regular side?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah? I do, and I did. I did a podcast
a couple of years ago with these two professional astrologers
and I love it. So I thought it was going
to be vague, you know. I thought, like, I know,
like my my mars is in cancer, which means like
when I'm angry, I just cry, And so I thought
I was going to be like stuff like that, you know.
But they were immediately like April twenty fourth year, like
(48:14):
something big in your career is going to happen, and
they're like you're gonna have a lot of sex this
next year. Like they were getting into like very specific things.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, and is it real at all?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I mean, this was I need to go back and
listen because this was back in like twenty twenty two.
But I remember like some of the things like as
they were happening, I was like, oh my god, yeah,
so this was going to happen the day. They must
have been like I think they were a little psychic psychical,
but then used like my birth chart. You know.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I recently had an astrologer tell me that I was
going to get famous on September eleventh.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
And it did not happen.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Well did they say that they specify which September eleventh?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yes, this upcoming?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
What oh?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
But they were like looking back and like, you know
in July, were you feeling this or whatever? And I
like look back and I'm like, oh yeah, I love so.
I kind of was like so. Then I was really
excited about like, oh my god, September eleven is all
going to change for me? And I fired everyone. Oh
(49:18):
my god, I had to. I had to come back
to Jiha with my tail between my legs. I was like, bitch,
you're never got to see me. I'm famous now that
September tenth, right September twelfth, I had to come back
to Jiha and.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I was like, hey, I'm excitey yeah, I was just
joking with you.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Listen, that's it. Do you want to tell people things?
Where to find you?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
You can find me online at Tyler GASA T y
L E R G A c A.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Are you going to do more stand up?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I would love to. I'm still very fresh in you
to all of it. I've done two shows in California
or something like, I need to do it somewhere else yeah,
take it on the road. I'd love to do like
a little West coast you know, like Portland, Seattle, San Francisco.
You know just how I like doing a little tour.
But do you like it? Do you like going on tour?
Hate it? Hate it?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, I'm just kidding. I love it. It's my favorite.
I've been home for a couple of weeks and I
literally today was like, am I just gonna stay here?
I need to go see people?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (50:28):
I love it so much. Yeah, just go on the road,
keep working that hour.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Okay, I will, I will, But yeah, you can maybe
catch me in a future stand up show. I'm auditioning
and acting and stuff. Maybe you'll see me on the
big screen soon. But other than that, I'm at home.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Okay. Well, bye bye. Thank you so much to Tyler Gaza,
and thank you for listening. I love you all, both
living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
haunt me, haunt me came back. This has been an
(51:10):
exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on
the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll
even call you. So email me at ghosted by Roz
at gmail dot com. You can send a DM or
voice message to the show's instagram at Ghosted by Roz.
Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me
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Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and
Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the
startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.
This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
(51:52):
Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
My theme music is by the spot chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying
Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the
(52:16):
Spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen
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