Ep. 107: Deer Camp, AI, and LeeAnn Wommack with Mae Estes

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
Keat the thing. Uh, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Possibly one of the best singers we've had in here,
and we've had a lot of good maybe the best,
maybe the best may Estes. I was a fan before,
but I'm an even bigger one now. Cooking with grease,
she cooks with grease, just.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Cool and real.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
And we talk about it and her journey from from
kind of doing the Dog and Pony Show to to
it not working, to just being who she is and
now it's now it's kind.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Of blowing up.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
And used to work the red carpet at the CMA.
She just she just walked the red carpet at the
CMAS this year.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I tell you, man it We have a lot of
people on.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
We have a lot of artists on, and their journeys
where they're adding their journey is always different. I feel
like a lot of them that we have on the
show are kind of already popping. She's still in her
like growth stage, grind years, her grind years, and that's
a beautiful perspective to have.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
And I know she won't be very long. She's rocket shit, right.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
But like yeah, and I mean she talks about the
struggle too, and and how hard it is to talk
about the struggle as well in front of people.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know, I can't imagine.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
She brought up some very good points about like the
social media pressure of being a female artist, can you
imagine it?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
And how she said, I venture to say that I
am thinking about social media and content all of the time.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, that would be That would be so tough, dude.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
And it's different for like she said, I mean, she
said she posted a video like listening Bobby Bone's listening
to one of her songs for the first time. She
had just woken up. She's like, it was very like
I hadn't fixed my hair, nothing, just very raw for me.
And people loved it and people loved it, but she
was kind of like, kind of insecure about.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
It because of how she looked. She broke herself out there, dude,
and as a female, especially in this industry, like you're
judged by that.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You know, no doubt anyway all that. She's a killer man.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
But we made her sing a lot. But I'm glad
we did because she's next level.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, we kind of talked about music, didn't talk about music,
went back to music. This is just a great conversation. Uh,
she's awesome. She's sky's the limit for her. She's going
to do great things. Check her out. She's got a
new EP out, just self titled may Estis, came out
October tenth.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Go spin it.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
She's doing some stuff this fall, still writing for for
songs next year, going to do some towards next year.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
She's great.

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drunk on that. I hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
We're hit them hard this week.

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now we're tat we're doing some hunting, so we got
to knock them out while we can. But uh, yeah,
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Speaker 8 (05:47):
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friend photo shopped my face on justin Timberlake and said
it's going to be made.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Oh really?

Speaker 7 (05:54):
I usually posted every May first, so trying to.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Come up with a game called It's going to be made?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
And I just couldn't. I couldn't wrap my brain around
a good game for it.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
There's a lot of good marketing ideas.

Speaker 8 (06:06):
My fans are the maniacs, may As.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I'm a maniac for this hat. You know who wrote that?
That guy, the guy that wrote that is Harty's uncle
and I've written with him.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
He lives here.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
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Jim Bracas.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
That sounds I'm just kidding. What's his name? Johns?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
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Speaker 3 (06:39):
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brains just I mean, his name is.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
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was trying to get to. I know, it's like Jim
McCartney or something like that, Dennis Jim now Jim McLarney. Anyway,
may thanks for coming out.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
This time is so exciting.

Speaker 8 (07:10):
I listened to this podcast and all my buddies have
been on it, and y'all are celebrities.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Who's your buddies?

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Well, Ella Langley, for one, didn't you ever do?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
She texted me was like, hey, if my dad I
was like, yeah, I'm sorry that I saw that at
the bootlegger thing in Florida, and she was like, my
dad thinks he's hotch oh yeah, Like she's like, he
he called me somebody. Uh who who was it that
was in his phone number? Oh yeah, he got somebody's
known from Mossy Oak. And he goes around. He just

(07:42):
put mass Oak and he goes around. He's like, hey, look,
I got Mossy Oak's phone number, like the whole company
I got, I got the camouf this.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I do think he takes the cake for the most
nervous human prior to you.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
He was losing.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
I will say, if you're not around this stuff, it's intimidating,
like we're used to it, but I did. I went
an audition for the Voice several years ago and that
was my mom's first time on a plane. Like I mean,
I'm small town Arkansas. And when we they film all
of your family interviews for every contestant, a hundred of us,
and my parents on those big cameras, not even live,

(08:23):
but they almost cried with like just nerves, and I
was I had the giggles. I couldn't let him go
because watching my dad just like panic and yeah, it's
like you're about to be shot.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
There's so many lives.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, you don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, you don't know what to do when somebody sticks
a camera in your face for the first time ever. No,
I mean the first thing you think is what am
I supposed to say? And then when you think when
you're in the middle of what am I supposed to say,
you're thinking that it's over because you're thinking.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
About you, thinking about exactly instead of.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Just being instead of saying.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I think for him it was just like he was
just like it just the deer in the headlights, and
he was trying to answer things very properly, like dude,
just and then he chilled out.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
He's great, he's great. He ended up talking more than
l I think.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Was really funny.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
She's country as hell like she is. It's so funny.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
All my friends or family are like Ella is a superstar,
and I'm like, she totally is, and she's a knockout.
She's beautiful, but I'm like, y'all understand she is a
little country redneck girl, but is also beautiful and talented,
But like, she is such a redneck it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, she is, and and like has been like like, oh,
real deal. He came to town that way. I think
a lot of people are like, does Laney really talk
like that?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Is Ella really?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm like, dude, yes, when they were broke. I mean,
they were the same thing when they were broke.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
It's easy to tell when somebody's not It's easy to
tell when somebody is not authentic, especially trying to do
the super country thing.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I feel like country fans have an extremely.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
High radar for fake.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
I don't know, man, I like to believe that, but
then you look at like it depends what analytics you're
looking at, Like, yeah, I've obviously been studying that kind
of stuff for a long time. And then I'm like, dang,
you can't argue with what people actually are connecting to.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
So I do get confused by that.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Which is a great segue into I think that the.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
First time analytics has ever been used on this podcast.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
Well, I can even spell it if you want spelling.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
I graduated from Henderson State University.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Count Henderson State shout out, hey.

Speaker 8 (10:35):
Ready, ready, ready, it's a spirit is literally what the
mascot is. But Bobby Bones graduated from there too, so we'll.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Give me too much.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, he's a Arkansas boy.

Speaker 8 (10:45):
Yeah, I got paid to go to school there. I
wanted to go to Belmont so bad, but it was
expensive as hell. So I had a great time at Henderson's.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
What was your uh what'd you get paid for?

Speaker 9 (10:57):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (10:57):
To go financial scholarships school?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I mean like like act type stuff.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yeah, like a ton of academic scholarships.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Smart.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
I was very smart. I don't remember.

Speaker 8 (11:10):
I got pretty high, like a thirty or something because
I got a lot of.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
Money to go to school.

Speaker 8 (11:16):
Sat did you, I don't think so we didn't either.
I was like over four point took. I was like
I started college as a sophomore because I took all
college cla senior year.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
I just think it was priority.

Speaker 8 (11:30):
But also I'm severely add but in a high performing way,
so like I was able to just beat your's pet,
knock out everything.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:39):
Times don't even start with math. I haven't had math
since my senior year of high school because.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I don't calculus.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh, calculus fans never graduated college because of because calculus
or something.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, I have three hours left.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
Oh that's kind of sad.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
See. I was like proud to graduate first generation, like
so it felt good. But I've used that degree to
freaking white tables when I moved to Nashville, I mean
or nothing, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Got Okay, we're headed Sorry before I dereledus, we're gonna
a d all day deer was. We were talking about
country listeners being able to sniff faking or not. But
it actually comes at a weird time because there has
been a fake artist making headline making. People are listening

(12:28):
to this guy like.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
The Billboard number one hot country song.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Right, yeah, what's his name?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Like Rusty, Rusty scrain, Rusty.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Roads or some stupid it's not even a real name.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
But dirt Road, dirt Road, Johnny. I think it's almost
I think I've heard that one breaking that's a guy's name.
Is it a band or one guy? That's what Reid's
doing on is to coma every time he hits the
going nowhere.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
I really can't be diving into all that stuff or
it'll get me riled up like a grandma, probably, but
get riled up, please pretty crazy viral?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Why no, I'm kidding. Why I'm not kidding about this?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
So, I mean, now you're not getting a boy going viral?
Say something?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, I mean, okay, what makes you the master about it?

Speaker 8 (13:16):
What makes you mad about computers competing with us in
the creative industry, Like it's just already songwriters and writers
and artists and singers and performers and bands, and like
no one is able to afford to make a living yeah,
in this industry anymore, And now we're competing with robots

(13:37):
for that revenue. Like I think that's my biggest part
is the business part of this thing drives me insane.
I feel like, you you can work this hard, be
this talented and dedicated, have this team around you in
any other field and you would have some you would
have some profit in your business or growth in your
business to show for that. And this has got to

(13:58):
be one of the only industries that it's like you're
checking all these boxes. Now wait ten years until you
finally can pay your mortgage.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
You could be the best. You could be the best, yeah,
and be and not be even on the radar.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
And now we have to come and you're saying, and
now it's hard enough as it is, and now we've
got to compete with break with rusty breaks.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
That's where I feel like there is only so much
is the revenue and the money and then like just
the competition of you know, a playlist changes the game
for an artist these days. And I didn't realize that
until I got a really big one on Apple or
one of my songs, good Old Boys, and it had
well over a million more streams on that song on

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a different platform because it was put on a playlist
that helped the exposure.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Like people just see that.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
And so when those songs are getting opportunities like that.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
You're not even real huge caps.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's taking up a spot for somebody who out there
is actually grinding, yeah, actually actually on the road, playing
shows and trying to grow a fan base grassroots way.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Well, I mean, and that's where it dies, right, Like
there is no love, there is no life.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
No unless you do some dead male stuff hologround.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
God, surely country listeners.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
If they're listening to this podcast, they're not listening to
there's some great music being made these days. So that's
what I try to try to not focus on that
stuff that annoys me, because I'm trying to just take
every second I can to shine a light on the
great stuff that is still.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Shine a light some of your favorites, Oh well.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
We're just talking about Jake Worthington. I think Jake waving
the flag for authenticity. I think he is absolutely the
real deal. When you hear him.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Talk, I knew he's really walked in with the.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
PA.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Come on, it's a real.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Deal, man.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
I think Ella and Laney are two really big, you know,
flagship artists.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
For me right now, I'm watching close.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Emily An Roberts is another powerhouse, and she's nailing all
of the socials and the branding and like all that
stuff is really important these days, and so I am
impressed by these people. Megan Marony is a marketing genius, dude.
So I'm just kind of watching these artists build their

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entire world. And it kind of come back around for
time where it's people are wanting what we're making and
what we've been making this whole time.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
So yeah, that sounds really good.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's unapologetic too, and that's what I love about it.
It's like used to you know, maybe a decade ago,
you were you were laughed at or looked down on
a little bit for being too country or being being
from somewhere, you know, and this and this kind of upbringing.
But now you know, now people are just are taking
in a stride and and doing it because that's who
they are, and I love that. And I do feel

(16:52):
a resurgence of a class of y'all that are coming
up on the artist side, that that are that are
singing I mean, to the core, to the bone country music.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
And it took me probably ten years in this town
to like become that kind of unapologetic version. I think
because I come from small town Arkansas. I grew up
in a double wide trailer house. Daddy had a ton
of hog dogs in the back, like I grew up.
We had a gigantic garden. Like that's the kind of

(17:24):
stuff I grew up on. But we didn't come from
any money. I ain't never had a nice vehicle or
anything fancy. And when I got here, I felt like
everyone I met had like a lake.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
House they wanted us to go retreat at. And I'm like,
and they're like, we can go to Arkansas.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
You want to go, right, I'm like, I don't know
where to sleep when I go home to my parents,
Like y'all want to go to deer camp. But I
don't even got no power, like no power trying to
come come on. So I just felt like I kind
of had to keep that a secret for a minute,
because it just felt like this was big city and
you know, I was having to just like fake it

(18:01):
and work three jobs at a time to be able
to go out to these bars and drink and network.
And I was just like, one of these things is
not like the other. And you know, people had made
five CDs by the time I got to record my
first song, because it took me so much longer to
find the resources and make the money and make the connections,
and so yeah, I just now I'm comfortable in my

(18:22):
own skin. And now that's all I sing about is
the good, the bad, and the ugly of growing up
small town. You know, I've come from a broken home
over and over again, and so I'm really honest and
open about that stuff. And that's what's helped me find
my people, is that honesty. But it ain't easy to
just open yourself up like that.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
It ain't easy being honest. Yeah, it's not good on
good on you.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's easier just to fake it, fake it all the
way through. And I think people that do that, I
feel like it all comes out in the wash, you
know what I mean, Like you can either pick up.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I feel like you can fake it for so long.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Me too.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
I bet it's it's exhausting because miserable. I've definitely tried also,
and that's the thing I wish I hadn't, But I
have tried to be what this town or anybody wanted.
I mean, in my tenure journey, we obviously are like,
I can do that, I can do this. Yeah, it's

(19:19):
like I work so hard, I really can do a lot,
and you know, I'm smart, I'm capable. But at the
end of the day, nobody knows what they want, and
you just chase that little laser around like a cat
forever until you're like, I'm not enjoying this. You also
don't like it. Why don't I just go back to
being myself?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
But doesn't the town kind of make you chase the
laser a little bit in the way that, like, at
least from a songwriter perspective, when you come to town
doing what it is that you do and everybody goes, oh, man,
I love what you do. Maybe you could try this,
and you're like, oh, okay, I'll try this a little bit,
and you're like, well, wait a second. What I do

(19:58):
is not paying the bills, is not is not getting
me to point B, so I need to do something else.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I need to do what that person is doing.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
The laser moves right, and you jump after that thing
and then it's and then it's like that's a pretty
good round. And then before you know it, you're tangled
up in this laser web and you're like, I don't
even know who I am anymore.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
And then you start.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Crawling back out of that because you comfatuation process, right,
you come back to who you are. You kind of
stop not you kind of stop caring about what you
think people want you to do, and you start caring
about what you're built on.

Speaker 10 (20:32):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
And when you get back to that foundation, it's like
almost all those people come back and go, oh, that's
way cooler than what you were trying to do.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
It's why didn't you do that from the beginning.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
It's that validation, like that's still what I'm in there
before and trying to figure out it's like, who'se validation
do I need? Like what am I actually looking for?
Because you know, I've also had like I've gotten to
be around Vince Gil several times in the last couple
of years we've played The Bluebird together. We played the Opry,
a song we wrote together on the Opry. I mean, Jesus,
that's my dude, man answers when I call the phone.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
It's it's unbelievable to me.

Speaker 8 (21:08):
Yeah, But even him telling me, like, I mean, we
played the Bluebird, I landed a hook and he goes,
that's great, and I was like, oh my god, Ben's
Gill just said that song was great. But when you
can't even process your heroes saying that stuff about you,
that's when I started being like, hold on, I think
I'm yeah, I got it. I think I've blocked everyone's

(21:28):
opinions after a while because you're just not able to
take any of them in. And so yeah, the last
two years, I've very much been that crawling back to myself.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
It's on stage.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, and look what it's done.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean honestly, it's it's it's it's put you
in a place of success and and and I mean
you can you can run at it one hundred percent
unapologetically and be who you are and go out on
stage and sing the songs you want to sing, tell
your stories. And god, I mean I feel sorry for
the people who have to go out there and sing
songs about something they don't believe in and something that

(21:59):
they they have to answer interviews after about and not
know anything about that.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
That feels.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's why I have even even though it's like cost
some of my songs on records, I do have the
utmost respect for an artist that goes, man, I didn't
cut this because I don't feel like it's me, you know,
or I have to cut things that I feel like
I can sing and be honest about, even if it's
a hit. Like I mean, I've had an artists say

(22:26):
to me, hey, man, this song is a hit, no doubt,
but I can't sing it every night because it's not
true to like who I am as a human. And
as bad as that burns, dude, you have I have
to respect that because they are the ones singing.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You guys are the one singing it. You know.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
It's funny to me too now to see I won't
name any names, but we got some of the bro
country artists that hell, I've been a gigantic fan of forever,
but they have aged a little bit now and now
we're singing like come here, pretty girl, I'm gonna pick
you up. But like it's like yeah, nah, buddy, you're
in your fifties.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
You need to stay inside.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
You need Son's doing that now and like, but it's
it's just funny, like how the authenticity doesn't last forever either.
It's like, I don't think they should stop singing their
hits because they're in a different stage of their life
by any means. But it's funny to watch, you know,
people in different places in their lives sing those songs.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
And they also you also see those guys just reaching
for every straw of of coolness they can.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Man.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
But again, I think it works sometimes. That's what's the
business I think has taught me. But it's about I
think there are those people that are in it to
make the money and their heart is not tied to
the music, and I can't judge them for that. I'm
just different, and so I don't want it if I
have to do it that way. I have decided, like
I truly will just not do it at all if
I have to do it in an empty way.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
And that's a hard spot to get to.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
That is a hard spot to get to, ain't it.
But I think that's where you probably beautiful spot to
get to.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Half your best work. Yeah, like speaking of great work
that I craft.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
It.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I wrote this on the way end.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
It's happening. It's all happening.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
What you mad? Just tell us what it is? What
you're mad at? Is it you in the Lost Kids?

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Might being you boss me?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Oh your neighbor's cat.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Come on, tell.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
You mad, that's the best one we've.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Ever Oh my god, that was so excited.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Number one number I'll go haus it happened this morning.
Oh I'm mad at.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I want to I want to like.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Eventually master making biscuits and like and and be like
a good biscuit making my dad. My dad just does
it like a quick country version and it makes little
flat biscuits that my kids love, His kids love, I'll love.
So I'll do that at some point. But when you
got two kids under three years old, sometimes you just
want to grab some some frozen biscuits out of the
freezer and pop them in can fifteen. Now I'm talking

(24:55):
about bag. They're they're like, they're like, oh, Pillsbury's good,
They're good.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, they're good. Up, I say.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
I made chicken and dumblos last night with some cut
up biscuits out.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Of a cancer can biscuits. I hope I die in
a bathtub of chicken and dumplets, drowned in it with
my mouth open.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Gross. I think you have to be memells though, But
just the images.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
They were like, I was just gonna do like four
biscuits because I cooked some of elk sausage and I
just wanted to sausage. Wasn't it fire fire Mine needs
a little more fat and and I feel like we
put too much seasoning on it. It needs a little You
got a weird, weird bad So anyway, I just want
to do like four biscuits. So there's three biscuits that

(25:39):
are like the frozen biscuits, just by themselves in the bottom,
and then there's like four clumps of biscuits that are
just you can there's no way you could get them apart,
no way. I was like, what do I do? Run
these underwater hot water? Know there would go everywhere.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
What I'm saying, I know?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
So I threw three in and then I threw one
of the double clumps in just to see what happened.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
What did happen?

Speaker 8 (26:02):
It did?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
It made two biscuits on top of each other, but
I had one the three were done. I took them
out and had to separate those and then put them
back in there a little bit because they were a
little doughe in the middle.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And I put that elk sausage on it on a
couple of pieces of toast.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
I ain't had any elk sausage deer.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, we made our own.

Speaker 11 (26:18):
We ground.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
We killed a couple of elks a few weeks ago,
and then and drove it seventeen and a half hours
back and processed it for three days. I also had
norvirus on for half of that drive.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Home and all the trips, so a's a factor there.
We were stopping every thirty minute.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
You're telling me, sister, I was everything forty minutes, dude,
Oh my god, forty minutes on a seventeen hour drive.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it was annoying
for you. Yeah, brother, And then you gave it to me.

Speaker 12 (26:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
It's running, running, rampid right now.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Everybody's it is running breath on me.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'm good, it's been yeah, I think I'm good. At
list a week you had anything always.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Yeah, mad, Specifically, I've been on the road all year long.
I am not in a bus, which is a son
of a beach.

Speaker 8 (27:07):
I'm ready for a bus, plane, train, automobile, fly to
a rental card or another plane to all kind of
it's chaos travel when you're first of three opening act on.
We were out with Luke Bryan this summer, so we're
chasing buses. It's a gigantic tory. So I've been on
a plane so much, and carrying a guitar on a

(27:31):
plane is something I'm so mad at because they act
like you have an automatic weapon that you just got
strapped to you and you're on a plane with it.
Not Sometimes it's the flight attendant or the gate agent,
and sometimes it's just the other passengers.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
On the plane.

Speaker 11 (27:50):
They map.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
People are so pissed that you have an instrument that's
going to like take up bend space. And I'm like, okay, well,
there's Billy Bob over here that's got his carry on
with a pair of tinny shoes and two shirts in
it up there, like let's keep those safe. And then
you know Bobby Sue's got her purse that she doesn't

(28:11):
want to put under her seat because she wants leg room.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
So that's up there. But my three thousand dollars instrument,
which is the way I make a living, like screw that,
like please give me over that.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
And if you can even get it on the plane
past the gate agent, then you got to get it
in a bin or a closet. And it is just
and we're taking sometimes three flights a day.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Like oh, and I think they're making those bend spaces
smaller and smaller and smaller. It feels like some of
them you can't get those guitar case in.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
They'll tell you, and then you have.

Speaker 8 (28:39):
To pack, like I pack my crazy almost like gun
proof case because if they put it under you gotta
have it good.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Look.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
It's just I mean, my anxiety.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
I've been doing this for a long time now, so
I'm pretty like stuff's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
I'm ready. But that is something that.

Speaker 8 (28:57):
Every time right before we line up and I'm all
the Southwest things I've fled. I've flown so much this year,
like I have, I'm in the first group and YadA, YadA, YadA,
and it's still just the most stressful thing ever.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, we bought those bulletproof cases. Man, I just checked
the big joke.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
They will intentionally like screw your instruments. I feel like
I've had so many friends get them, me too, like
they just have to run them over and like have
a bad day.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It is weird how there'll be like a hole here, oh.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
Yeah, or the case won't even be damaged.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
And like the next bro, I don't get three strings broken?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
How do you even?

Speaker 7 (29:37):
But not fun to fly with a guitar. Not fun
for anybody involved.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I feel said that one.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
No, a lot of people talk about flying.

Speaker 8 (29:45):
Y'all know Megan Patrick, she has a tattoo on her
forearm that says it fits in the overhead no way
a thousand percent because she is so over there.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
She is my queen.

Speaker 11 (29:59):
I'm about to get one.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
You have tattoos.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
I have one tattoo that I got when I was
like seventeen, so dumb.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, Jordan, show is yours birth first birth on her ankle?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh firth, keep the first, Well, you gotta have birth firs.
You gotta have for the first.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
That's so good, Okay, that actually feel a little better.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Keep.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
It's a bass club and a trouble club.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Make a heart, yes, because and like.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
Where your tanning sticker goes on your hip?

Speaker 8 (30:40):
Because I was like, I'm always gonna love music like
tattooter forever, and like this is the one thing that
Oh my god, I played sacks in the band in
middle school. Like I know what a trouble club and
a bass club are. Make it a heart please, because
I love it. So it's faded in. Nobody sees it
except my husband mostly, and so it's fine. I have

(31:03):
dreams of other ones. I'm just busy and also cheap.
I don't like to pay money for anything. And you
gotta I gotta get me a tattoo friend that'll, no
doubt practice practice on chicken.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
And that's what I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Tattoo. I'll tattoo it. Fit's in the overhead for some
chicken and dumbs right now, Okay, I would, I would,
as long as I guess a black pavy break it out. Yeah,
Oh that's funny, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Get into it now. I'm not right.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Okay, he's in a good mood.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I'm feel the energew Hey, let's go back to kind
of your upbringing. Then we'll go back to music.

Speaker 10 (31:39):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So Ar Kansas.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
You said something about dear deer camp. Yeah, walk me
through your deer camp.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Well, my favorite deer camp in my life right now
is my husband's we've been together for eight years now.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
And what's his name?

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Chad?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Chad repair guy?

Speaker 7 (31:57):
Yeah, running repairs, running mobile mechanic around now.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
All zoom in on that right there, run Owner Operator
Insurance Calle seven zero two six zero two three seven
seven for service in the greater Nationville area, for your
old change, break service, suspension work, diagnostics, maintenance, roadside assistance,
and more. I will call his ass for some gas
probably sometimes. Yeah, if if he got some of this truck.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
These are my guys right here to make us a
theme song for running repair?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well kind of do it right? You would even give
me something, give me? Okay, I got you.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
When you brow down side of the road. You need
a guy to come and go and give you till
you get you better call. Run, Yeah, you better run
and run when you smoke coming out you hood ain't
it ain't no good God somewhere to be.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But you can't get that call. Run you better coat, run, run.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
Run.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
I'm gonna need a copy of that.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
What was that was good?

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
We got the.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
That's where it is you?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
He'll get you running again. Run run and running, He'll
get you running again.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I felt like the vibe.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
We were talking about needing to write a song together and.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's already I think we just did.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, let's do that one and then we'll do a
real one so we can just get on the record,
maybe the radio.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
But dear camp, no power.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
There's an outhouse outside, and when we go stay out there,
I'm terrified to go pee in the middle of the
night because we are out in the middle of nowhere
in the woods. And I make Chad get up and
go take me to pee, just to watch for monsters.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
You're walking to the stage just squatting on a tree.

Speaker 8 (33:52):
I'm just like, maybe just good looking out because I'm
vulnerable when I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Squatting on There's probably not a more vulnerable, especially.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
As a girl, understand the squat.

Speaker 8 (34:04):
And I call myself bush broke because I've learned a
squat very young as a child, because we were literally.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
Never around bathrooms in any kind. Yeah, so I do
think that is did I.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Let did my little girl needs to needs a t
t in the yard bro pull the pants hand.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
He go, oh, yeah, she's.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
For girls.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I told her step on my feet, That's how I
did it.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh yeah, And then I let her lean her arms
all the way back and I drop her all you
know what I'm saying, So there's not anything.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
She'll hold on to the side of the trampoline. Little
turn around. Ben's standings me and Ben's standis for he
goes to my church.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
I love Ben.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
So I saw him. We were talking.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
He was like, is that your kid being on the
side of the building, dude, boone was I'm talking about
around his aim by. I was like, he could go too,
if you're not careful to get them pants back up, buddy.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
It's its country is hell down there, and that's what
we missed so much. My husband's super into outdoor everything.
He just got back from a quail hunt over Thanksgiving.
He went for Thanksgiving for that and it was awesome.
But I it's been a culture shock for us to
move to Nashville, and we lived in East Nashville for

(35:21):
a while and just having no neighbors Arkansas. He's from
Arkadelphia where I went to school, and we dated a
little bit when I went to college there and then
didn't talk for four years. I moved to Nashville, was
here almost two years. He was doing his thing, and
I just didn't think he got a partner in this music.
I was just like, I'm always gonna put it first,

(35:43):
like so no one should even like that's not fair
to anybody, and agreed, by the way, yeah, you gotta
find the right one because I don't think I could
be the partner. And that's like truly, I give them
so much credit, but now I know I couldn't do
it without him either.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Take somebody special, man.

Speaker 8 (36:01):
And so we reconnected at a mud bog in Louisiana.
I don't think I've explained to this career. Most people
are like, what's a mud bog? But you boys, we
got it.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Just rednecks on a bunch of lands.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Were you playing at this mud bog? Or were you
riding at this.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
We mudbogged like crazy from the time I was like
probably fifteen and on like a few events a year.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
So y'all tricking out fo whelers the side by sides
and stuff.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
Yeah, we uh, the mostly side by sides.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
Like child had a maverick named her Veronica Vaugh that
was printed on the front glass printed oh the sticker,
yeah yeah, yeah, okay, she broke my eye socket eventually.
I've had a lot of fun on sybey sides and
mud riding. But yeah, we he had a new ride
and I.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
Was visiting from Nashville down there with my.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Cousin Chad, and he got a shotgun sat taking but yeah, he.

Speaker 8 (36:54):
Didn't have nobody in the shotgun and he wanted to
show me his new ride and I was like hey,
And he moved in Nashville like three months after that,
I mean, found roommates on Craigslist because I.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Was like, bro, do not do that, Like, do not
move here. I got to do I ain't got time
for you.

Speaker 8 (37:13):
No, no, no. He's like, I'm gonna be there in case,
like you want a date or whatever, Like I'm gonna
do it. And he is so small town, never ever
thought of leaving that like our our parents were born
in this area and will die there, Like that's the
kind of nobody leaves. And this man followed me all
the way to Nashville and we've built this beautiful life together.
He's got his own business here now, so do I.

(37:35):
And it's love story, a redneck.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Mud bog love story.

Speaker 7 (37:40):
I wanted to get married at the mud bog, but
he but it's happening.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's happening in the middle. Oh yeah, absolutely, mug boots
and the dress. Hell the man what he said, he
sounds like, guy, I want to be friends with this guy.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
Yeah, y'all would love him more than me, for sure,
more than you. I mean, y'all got a lot in common.
I talk a lot like y'all don't want to take
me hunting, or I don't like to be quiet. I
don't like to sit still. I can't pay attention very long,
So that's why hunts a little hard for me. Chad
likes to get away from me. He does take me hunting.
I'll say, he kind of like wants me to go,

(38:19):
and I'm like, but why anything.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
I haven't.

Speaker 8 (38:22):
I've been hunting a lot, but mostly like went with
my dad when I was little. That was kind of
our only Yeah. I have messy dad relationships and a
few of them, so that was kind of my only
way to bond with my dad growing up.

Speaker 7 (38:35):
But I really like like fly fishing and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (38:39):
Instead, it's a little more like I don't sit down
and wait on something well, so I like stuff that.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
Is a little more lively. I haven't been duck hunting,
which is funny.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
Because I'm in Arkansas and everyone and their mother comes
to Arkansas to duck hunt.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
But I hear that's a little more lively and fun.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
But yeah, you can be loud, you can you move
around a little bit, talk a little bit, cooking some breakfast,
you know, pop a few tips in the blind.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
I kind of just loved always being like being at
camp when they came back, and like watching them skin
and like be excited and tell the stories and like
we always cooked it up and we always use some
minse garlic on some Fridays. Ye backstrap for my birthday
every year, Like my birthday is November fifteenth, so right

(39:27):
in the root. So every man I ever knew was
not at my birthday party, including my dad.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
I got to go, Happy birthday, gotta go.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
But yeah, so it's been Hunting has been a big
part of my life. But music has been my end
all be all since I started publicly performing when I
was seven.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
So who was your life? Who introduced it to it?
Was your dad?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Your mom to music, music, country music.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
My mom is a big, big reason for my love
of music. She's obsessed with it and the classic country.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So that's like, what, what's what? What did you grow
up listening to?

Speaker 8 (40:08):
Like her playing well, her dad was in a bluegrass
band with Josh Methene's mom and uncle, so we have
generations of bluegrass going on, and uh so I definitely
grew up on some blue grass.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Do you remember the name of the band? I love bands?

Speaker 7 (40:22):
Sandyland Bluegrass. I have their vinyl. It's pretty cool. Yeah,
most of them are gone now.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And was Methene's would you say, mother? What did she do?
Just the same.

Speaker 8 (40:35):
She's four foot tall, her name is Biddy and she
played upright bass, y'all. She had to stand on a
block to play the bass, and is cool. Every s
almost like a car too.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
With that bass.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, so cool.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
But yeah, music's been like in my bones. And my
mama doesn't sing. She's hella shy about like that kind
of stuff. And my by logical dad, I don't actually
have anything to do with. So I don't know if
you had any musical ability or not, but I just
caught the bug and it was all the old Loretta Tammy,
you know, Randy Travis, Keith Whitley, Like I I was

(41:13):
singing on Opry's and hay Rides around there, and so
that's all you could sing was classic country, and so
I wanted to be singing Martina and Carrie Underwood, and
but I was forced to learn all this old stuff.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
And now that's all I love and all I care.
You can't make me learn the next time?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Will you playing? Sing? It's a classic old country something?

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Oh my god, what do you want?

Speaker 6 (41:32):
Let's go?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I don't know. Whatever you want to do?

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Oh okay, I got you. Y'all like Roger Miller?

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Hell yeah, I like them all.

Speaker 7 (41:39):
I really want to do one. Y'all know did you
tell me ye?

Speaker 11 (41:41):
Sorry? Uh yeah?

Speaker 8 (41:44):
Or any I mean Loretta we can do, Keith Whitley,
we can do whatever y'all do.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Do your favorite doing you love. You're smiling, She's so excited.

Speaker 7 (41:55):
I have too many to choose from you.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I'm trying to think. Uh, I mean, I love Randy
Travis too. Now, if you know Randy Travis, you can
do that.

Speaker 8 (42:06):
This is the one I was thinking of.

Speaker 9 (42:14):
Two broken hearts, lonely looking like houses where.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Nobody two people.

Speaker 9 (42:26):
Each having so much pride and so neither side taking.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
The angry world spoken in haste, Such a waste stuff
too loved. It's mimily.

Speaker 10 (42:50):
Pride is the chief call in the decline in the
number of husbands and.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Old Roger Miller Ricks and I ain't open my mouth
stop do another one?

Speaker 8 (43:06):
One?

Speaker 7 (43:06):
What's another?

Speaker 11 (43:07):
You were on?

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I ain't open in my mouth. Chance, I'm singing with you.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
You are no y'all.

Speaker 7 (43:14):
Y'all know nobody sings harmony anymore. You too, have to
help me keep this a little.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I say that the harmony singers on your on your
your stuff on that epre good, thank you.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
That's me and Paul.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Okay, Psyche.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
I'm kind of feel like.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
I'm a little bit for singing my own harmony because
I have so many friends who.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Kill it, but I love to do it. And Paul,
like Paul's Paul's a nerdy kind of musician in a way.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I'm just hot. He's a hot Yeah, it's hidden.

Speaker 8 (43:43):
He's got he's found the fountain of youth somewhere and
he's not sharing not but he'll tell me like these
cool parts to do that my little bluegrass harmony knowledge
is it's so cool.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
I learned so much from doing that with him, so
it's awful.

Speaker 12 (43:59):
Uh, you've come to tell me something, you say, I
ought to know.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
That he don't love me anymore, and I'll have to
let him go. You say, gonna take him.

Speaker 10 (44:19):
Oh, but I don't think he can, cause you ain't
a woman enough.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
To take my true story, true women that you.

Speaker 10 (44:32):
There are diamond dozen you can buy them anywhere. For
you to get to him, I'd have to move over
and and I'm bonna stand right here.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
It'll be over my dad money suge out.

Speaker 10 (44:51):
And while he can, cause you ain't a woman I
know to take Mamy, I need one, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Oh my gosh, I'm so focused on listening that I
don't even want to I don't even want to get
I don't.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Even want any Uh, Alison Krause, what you want?

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (45:14):
I mean, I mean we do when you say nothing
at all, which is a mix of.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Let's let's do it.

Speaker 8 (45:20):
We did that the rymen, y'all opening for Ella, the
whole rymen saying every word. And I was.

Speaker 7 (45:29):
In your pants.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I want to tell you something, Alison Krause was completely instrumental.
And and me even thinking about moving to Nashville.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I had the hugest crush on Alison Krause.

Speaker 8 (45:42):
Quick story about Alison Krause. She is so fond that's
funny to me, really, And angelic boy.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
I mean, she's beautiful, but I don't feel like she's
like one of the girls that like.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I think it's the aura, it's the thing. Yeah, it's
her less uh rest.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
That came out. I was like, I love her. I'm
going to marry her.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
We play the station in a few times a year
because I want to make full blown blue grass record
at some point, like you can hear the grassy stuff
in mind. But one time I got booked for a
write this kid's name. I didn't recognize Sam something and
I've heard the story. Yep, showed up at her house.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
He wait, what do you mean show Sam's house?

Speaker 7 (46:23):
Showed up at Sam's house?

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Walked in.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
Alison Krause is sitting on the couch because Sam is
her son, and I did not know Sam was her son.
I did not know I was going to Alison Krause's house.
I called my published some coffee of cookies or something.
My publisher doesn't know like a lot of the like
artists and stuff. I was like, listen, next time you

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send me to Alison krausetrepared that it was unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (46:55):
Okay, sing this.

Speaker 10 (46:56):
Meme the small your face lets me know that you
need me. There's a true thing in us saying you
never leave me.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
The touch of your hand says you catch me. Faver
f you say bell, we say nothing, and all.

Speaker 12 (47:31):
Going, all day long, I can't hear people talking a
but when you hold meaning, you drown out the crowd. Oh,

(47:55):
miss SARTs, you could never fun.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
What's me? Said me, tweeny, your harned mine, A small new.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
Face, lets me know that you need me. There's a
true thing us saying you ever name me. The touch
of your hand says you catch me.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Off You seen this?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Do the thing when you say nothing?

Speaker 5 (48:35):
It yes, that harmony is.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
We had.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Our dad was a batist preacher and still is his
whole life. And so there's Courtney, Dan, Me, Lindsey. And
we would all sit in the second row, not the
first row, he said, in the first row, nobody sound
for a row with a preacher that was his his row.
And then the second row was our family's row. And
I mean every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, Wednesday night

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we would be you know, we'd sing hymns and we
just learned how, just would run them up and down
and figured out we got bards singing the tenor part.
So we start, we'd figure out the soprano part and
and sing the auto part and and that's I mean,
that's how we learned to sing harmony. And we can
all do it, and it's so much fun. I love
I love getting together, you know, holidays or whatever, and
just singing songs and harmonizing.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
And harmonizing is one of my favorite things in the world.

Speaker 8 (49:29):
It's a physical like I don't know the scientific word,
but when you match harmony, like there is a like
resonance in the room or something that like it's it's crazy.
I learned to sing harmony just riding in a car
and singing off of the lead.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I remember saying something different than they're doing.

Speaker 8 (49:50):
My dad used to be like sing ride or shut
up because you just start, Like I just sing off
key because I just knew how to get away from
the lead. And then you eventually find your pocket.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Sure, but for a long.

Speaker 7 (50:01):
Time, I'm just like singing off key intentionally.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
It's not necessarily off key. You're just building the cord.

Speaker 8 (50:07):
It's just not the well, there's a you gotta find
your pocket too, and like I don't have any knowledge
of it, so I just have an ear, so I
know when I have it, I know when I don't,
and I ain't really got a whole lot to work
with otherwise.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
I just know when I get there.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, yeah, your ear tells you, oh wait, start right there,
so you just kind of find your notes as you go.

Speaker 8 (50:26):
It's funny when people compliment my vocal and use all
these like technical words, or they're like, oh, you're so
and so and you got this and your vibrato, and like,
I'm just.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Like I have no I'm just really I would assume
you would know, like I was thinking of things to
describe your voice in my head, but I would have
you got a.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Travel clip on a bass cleft tattooed on you.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
Love music. I need the number system tattooed on my
arm so I don't have to go one.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
I've been here forever. I've been here forever, and I
and I know the number system. But I still I'll
mess it up. I'll mess it up. It depends on
what Q.

Speaker 9 (51:05):
Ring you know.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
It's it's impressive.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, cats have got it down for sure, the ones
that really really know it. I do not know it,
but you have a the crazy thing. And this is
what I always finding myself. What I find myself doing
when I'm listening to someone saying usually is like unintentionally,
I kind of start building like a music video in
my head of where the like I feel like the

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vocal fits. And to me, in your music video, it's
like probably late spring, like not hot yet, but but
like a late spring kind of vocal with fresh grass
bright sun.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
It's very bright.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
It's very uplifting tone you have, and it's also canically
very sound like if this is the note you are
in the middle, there ain't.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
None of this hand run it is. It's almost it's
it's so good that it's like weirdly almost like robotic.
You're so freaking it doesn't even sound real. It sounds
like you're in a like like it sounds like we're
in a studio. I don't mean robotic in the sense
of like.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
You should do you sound, but it sounds like you're
like a piano, Like your notes don't waiver, they're just
it's very nice. What I love about beautiful about bluegrass singers, like, yeah,
a good point.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I know whe're headed.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, it is like you think of all the like
great female bluegrass singer you see you think of Alison Krauss,
Sonya Isaac and.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
In yourself. You all it's it's it's like you all
do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Different but and you all have your own thing like
you all have your own You all can do the runs,
and you all can do the long notes and the
and the curves, go the swoops in there, but you
all do it perfect in a different way.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Perfect every time. I don't know, perfect kill I cannot.
I can't do that. It kills me. I don't even understand.

Speaker 11 (53:10):
How you do that.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
Truthfully, I just know my voice is all I know
is I have sang non stop since I was itty bitty,
Like my parents used to make me go outside. And
my parents are great. By the way, it makes you
sound like they were beating my ass when I was singing.
That's yeah, that's not true for other reasons.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
But I deserved it.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
Get to the note, get your harmony, but.

Speaker 8 (53:32):
Just walking around singing non stop. So like they'd make
me go outside, I'd go sit in the horse trailer.
There's good acoustics in there. Like just so I think
I got to know. My voice is my biggest like
technical training.

Speaker 7 (53:44):
It's just I know what it can do. What it can't.

Speaker 8 (53:49):
Spending a lot of time singing has helped me, hone
that part, But I really.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
Have no idea outside of that.

Speaker 8 (53:55):
I'm just it feels like something I don't have anything
to do with, like just that divine God given a bit.

Speaker 7 (54:00):
Yeah, maybe you don't to connect with strangers.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
And it's also funny because my voice does sound sweet
and as a songwriter and as a person in general,
I am not that. I'm pretty rough round the edges
and like to say, you know what I'm thinking, And
so it's funny that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Well, don't take it. I didn't mean to come across
as if it doesn't have power. There's there's oh no, yeah,
it's just like a bridled power, Like it's just resonating
down there low and it's like, man, I could I
could snap your ears off if I want to, and
you can hear it if your mastered.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
That instrument, which is your voice for thank you. Y'all
are a great singers. So that I want to talk
about this right quick. In twenty fifteen, you were the
mascot escort here. I'll get the same for Brad Paisley's
performance at the CMAS.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
What what is that?

Speaker 9 (54:44):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (54:44):
Yeah, Oh yeah, buddy, this is the hell of a story.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Ten years later, ten years later, twenty twenty five year
walk walk in the red carpet as an artist?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
What do you mean? What's a what's a what'd you
what's a mascot escort?

Speaker 8 (54:57):
So when I first moved to town, I i started
working in production for CMA, because those things do not
just happen. A lot of people feel like they roll
the carpet out and all the artists show up. There
are thousands of people that work on the production side
to build all of that, then make sure everybody's where
they're supposed to go, and organize it all. And so
got in on that side of things. When I first

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moved to town. My friend Sarah Foster was the talent.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Exec because you're just trying to get them what anyway.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
I just wanted to learn as much as I could
and be as close to where I wanted to be,
And this was a great way to get in the
middle of it and still actually have nothing to do
with the artist part of it. But first year, I'm
assigned with one other girl to like fifty mascots.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Brad Paisley did I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
It's like the band thing right. It was the mascots,
I keep want to call it.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
It was an American Saturday Night.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
It was something about where they named every football team
in the words and country nation they I think they
opened the show. I don't remember where they were anyway,
We started the red carpet with those mascots. They kicked
off the red carpet that year.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Give me like college mascots.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, fifty of them.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
It's a lot.

Speaker 8 (56:10):
And they're all young college kids like that, are literally
doing their homework in the hall until it's time to
put their suits on, and then they are bouncing off
the wall, crazy ass mascots, and they don't listen. And
I just moved to Nashville from small town arkatsall. I
got my little headset on, I got my chucks, my jeans,
my little black T shirt that says CMA, and the

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Texas Longhorn is not listening to me, and I am like,
oh my god. So we opened the carpet. We tell
them before, like, no interviews. We're just walking the carpet
to get out of the way, like they all stop
for interviews. We're on live TV. I'm jerking mascots off
live TV segments like Gotta Get Going. And so that
was my first red carpet experience, was literally wrangling these mascots.

(56:57):
And then I worked it for another like seven years,
and so I was the escort for Garth Brooks and
Tricia year with the next year. And that just means
you're you're on a walkie with them, so that when
it's like they're needed to stage, someone's telling me and
I'm like, hey, mister, mister, mister Brooks, mister Brooks, can
you stop talking to this custodian in the corner that

(57:18):
you're telling how much it brigiate him, But few you
need to go to the stage driver. And so that
obviously threw me in this industry in such.

Speaker 7 (57:29):
A cool way.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
And ten years after getting to switch sides, it's the
coolest perspective because I know what's going on, what it
takes to put all that on, and it's it's just
a humbling and I don't know, it just makes me
appreciate both sides of things. I feel like I've seen
the wizard in that part of things. And so yeah,

(57:52):
it's I have so many full circle moments like that.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
And was there anybody there that you still worked with.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
Yeah, everybody, I mean everyone was so tickle.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
They were sending me pictures of my uh my seat
that's killing, and I was eating nachos.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I was gonna say, and this is this is the
first time we've ever met. But I saw a video
of you eating just dang like high school football nachos
and a plastic thing with some chips, and I was like,
that's that's my girl. Man's that's what I'm talking about.
In the dress, in the get up, around the people starting.

Speaker 8 (58:25):
That's the thing though, That's where I come from as
far as like I didn't know me just being me
with something because literally I started Glamor at two o'clock,
it's almost seven. I'm hungry as hell. We walked past
the concessions. My friends like, I'm going to get a vodka.
I don't really drink anymore because I'm thirty something, and
they heards it. Yeah, and uh so I'm like again,

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I'm nachos and we're going.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
To a show.

Speaker 8 (58:50):
Like I didn't think about it, but I've never sat
on the floor. We're literally like four ROMs from the stage.
George Burge is in front of me and he was like,
do you have nachos, right, And I was like, this
is past me on this frowned upon like you want
like anybody was just.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
Like staring at me. I was like, I love you
like a baby pig in my arms at the awards
or something. So yeah, I lived my best life this year.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
It was that was that's awesome.

Speaker 8 (59:17):
Watching Laney that close kick ass like it's just it
was so cool to get to go and I want
to be on that stage for sure, but getting to
go this year and not have any pressure, like just
get to be a fan, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Good for you. That's fun.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Released an EP on October tenth, includes mister fix It.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I Like Man no Man, I love that.

Speaker 7 (59:39):
That's Paul's likes right there, drunk on that.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I better go, Bryce Long, that's our boy, dude. I
love that song. That was you and Paul and and
Bryce man freaking Bryce.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
He has why she's having great too thing, dude, it's
the core progression that he does. It's like the it's
always either a minor walk up or a minor walks
the cowboy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
It's the Western country cowboy.

Speaker 8 (01:00:05):
Do it, dude.

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
I can't play.

Speaker 8 (01:00:06):
I better go. I could show you how I can
stumble like, that's Paul and Bryce because they screwed me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I know that movement he does it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
Song part I can't do. I'll embarrass myself.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
What's the Bryce Long thing?

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
That's I'm so.

Speaker 8 (01:00:24):
Like.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
I mean, he's just he can play every instrument. He
can hear a frequency.

Speaker 8 (01:00:30):
He'll tell you the number of a frequency when we're
going through mixes, and I'm like a little four.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So it's like, yeah, that thing, yes, not even that,
it's that thing.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
That's my biggest song right now they're playing it, but
the bone shows playing it like that song it got
played on the highway and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Figure this out. I mean, that's it, that's it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:55):
But I'm you can just see it all over my
face that I'm going. I'm like, yeah, I'm not each
wing the song when I'm trying to play it, and
I'm like, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I love that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I wish I had a signature thing like that thing,
because that thing is. That's a cool one that Bryce has.

Speaker 7 (01:01:09):
I think y'all are doing pretty good. Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Thank you. I appreciate you. I think you are too.
About what's coming up for you? What do you got
the rest of the year. What are you doing next year?

Speaker 7 (01:01:17):
Man, I'm gonna keep chugging along like I have Ben.

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
I'm going to c to see for the first time,
so that'll be sick like two weeks traveling all over there.
So excited for that. I'm gonna hop on any tours
anybody will put me on. I'm making my favorite music
I've ever made. As far as writing right now, like
I said, I think that unapologetic place, I'm stepping even

(01:01:40):
further into.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
I'm trying to do that with writing.

Speaker 8 (01:01:42):
It's really really hard to tour and run socials and
run promo and write, and like writing has been hard
for me. The busier the artist stuff gets. I don't
know how everybody does it, so I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
I don't either, Honestly, I don't. I don't know that how.
I mean because I feel like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
But ten years ago you could do it because socials
didn't demand as much as they do now. And I
would say, I mean, what would you say, percentage wise
of your artistry you're working on socials and that that category,
like how much percentage of your day is consumed by
that stuff?

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
I mean, I would arguably say I am always there
one hundred percent somehow I'm looking for an opportunity to
shoot some content in what we're doing, I'm thinking about
what I need to post later or.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
And I it's full time John.

Speaker 8 (01:02:34):
I go through spurts like I went live every single
Monday for two years and that's demanding as but built
a crazy fan base and then I just got tired
of it and kind of bailled off. And now I'm
leaning back in like posted a video of me listening
to my song for the first time when Bobby Bones
and then played it the other day and I was
in my robe because I just woke up and literally

(01:02:56):
looked like and I got so much much love for
just showing up Ratchets toly and that's been a turning
point for me. That was literally like last week. But
I was like, are people actually just wanting you to
be yourself? Because it's scary as I really I am

(01:03:16):
the kind of person that's like, if you don't like me,
sounds great, like I'm not for everybody and sounds good, Yeah,
but socials gets me in my head because you're asking
for criticism if you post online. Essentially, I don't think
it should be that way, but it kind of is
so for me to just you want to put your
best foot forward if you're going to ask everyone in

(01:03:38):
their mom to see it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
But I'm kind of letting that go and it feels freeing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, I think I think the country listener and the
fan wants to it feels like they want to see
behind the curtains a little bit now, and especially with
social media, because when you go to a show, you're
seeing the best get up of all get ups. So
when you're watching these award shows, everybody's you know, to
the nines or whatever. And yeah, I think if you're
posting every day and what y'all have to do as
artists and the content you create, I think it's I

(01:04:06):
think it's appealing to a fan to to see how
you live, who you really are, what you look like
when you wake up, you know, like what you eat
for breakfast or whatever. It is, like what you what
are your what do you like to do during the day.
I do think the fan is getting to a point
where they want to see the realness of an artist
and and and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Know you, I's got to be demanding though, oh there
ain't no touching.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I mean, yeah, absolutely, to ride the line between authentic
and I look like.

Speaker 8 (01:04:31):
Today, and and for girls, it's a extra like, yeah,
I did not look I did not have my hair in,
I did not have my lashes on my hair in
What do you mean in? Oh, I got my hair
in for y'all, this is not my hair.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
It's coming out of your head.

Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
Yeah. I worked really hard for it to look like that.
That's great, right, the girls have a Dolly parton. We
have a whole other layer of things. I do want
y'all's opinion on sharing the real on socials. I do
get feedback sometimes that, like the negativity comes to cross
more and I feel like I want I struggle with
being real about how hard this journey is, how hard

(01:05:07):
life is in general, and sharing that feels real and
authentic to me on socials. But I've also gotten some
feedback before that like that feels like you're just and
you're just being negative.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Oh, how do y'all, Well, we don't get it. Well,
it's it's kind of we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
We don't do it, but we don't care because our
livelihood doesn't depend upon it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (01:05:35):
Even seeing artists that you know are your friends, Like
if anyone's real about like this, is hard.

Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
How do y'all receive it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Well, I think or talking about it on.

Speaker 8 (01:05:45):
Here like if because I feel like you can't complain
because we're living the dream, but freaking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Hard because there, well, it comes with a different set
of parameters, right, Like I always hear well beats the
hell out of laying shingles in the middle of the summer.

Speaker 7 (01:05:59):
And because you get paid for laying those shingles, and
you know you got paid, and you get like you
get to go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Home forget about it every you know. See, you're proving
my point right now. I mean, it's hard to explain
to someone. It's also we have to recognize what we
are may and what we are is a big batch
of creatives in a culture that is ran by people
who aren't creatives. And so what's tough for us is

(01:06:25):
to make it is to help everyone understand the demands
that comes with being that creative. Right, let me find Okay,
my next door neighbor, Kevin Eddrick. He's awesome, a great guy.
He goes shout out sedge sedge Hedge. He goes to work,
he gets off work, and he goes home. When he's
at home, he is not at work and he makes

(01:06:46):
a great living, but he gets to turn it off. Right,
it's hard, and once again, here we go. Already I'm
feeling it in my I'm feeling it sneak up on
me right now. Like it's not that hard, you like,
I can feel it, but we don't get to cut
it off. And when you don't cut it off, it's demanding,
and it cramps your brain into this format and you

(01:07:08):
come home and you have to you can't shut it off.
And when you can't shut it off, sometimes I put
that onto my kids and then I have to go, hey, man,
that's what it's so great about having a wife who's
not in the business and doesn't give a dang. She's like, hey,
you need to leave that out there on a porch
and be daddy when you come up in here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
And she's right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
And so I think voicing those struggles and concerns doesn't
make sense to the nine to fiverer because they get
to cut it off. And I'm not saying that it's
easier or it's harder, it's just a different journey, right,
And so part of me is like, I understand that
you don't want to get online and just like all day,
but at the same time as the consumer, how much

(01:07:51):
of it do you want? Do you want only the
highlights or do you want the hard stuff too, Because
there's a lot of hard stuff. And I would venture
to say my buddy Kevin, because he don't care, he's
not worth he doesn't feel insecure about his job. He
just goes and does it and comes home. However, our job,
there's a lot of insecurity that rolls with it. There's
a lot of perception, there's a lot of physical traits,

(01:08:13):
there's a lot of criticism that comes with music. When
you're trying to voice whatever's going on inside your heart
or your brain or your voice to get out, to
put out, and becomes your identity, becomes your entire identity,
and you're kind of leaving that out to judge. And
that identity determines whether or not you pay your bills
at the end of the month. Kevin's identity does not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
God, I'm stressed, but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Kevin's identity does not pay his bills. He goes to
work and he does his job. Our identity does yours,
specifically ours probably not so much. We just kind of
we hang back behind the curtain.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
Well, your professional podcasters, now what Marty pay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
And it's also it's also like a lot like you
hear those people like god Man, like you said, like
you live in the dream, or like what I would
give to have your job? And I'll look at some
of those guys sometimes and go, what I get to
have your job? Like the same thing. It's like they
see it almost it's it's hard to explain what we
do to other people that don't do it. Yeah, and
and and it's they see it as not necessarily a job.

(01:09:11):
They see it as fun. They they just see the
two hours that you get to go play shows, well
they look fun.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Us singing absolutely, you have.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
The aus kresslong like that probably looked real fun and
it was real fun. But that was that was thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Of their day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
And that's the mountaintop of what we get to do, right.
That is the that is the best of the best,
the best day of the job or whatever, best the
best day job ever is doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
That is the that is what we what we love
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
But we only get to do that, Like you say,
you know for just a few times, it's not the
play and the music that's the that's the tough part.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
It's the everything else.

Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
Well, touring is the best example.

Speaker 8 (01:09:51):
I get twenty five minutes on stage, 'm a rock star,
I'm standing on speakers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I'm like, people, people, what you're born to do?

Speaker 8 (01:09:59):
Yeah, And then and I am driving three hours after
that show, and I'm making no money for this whole
run if I'm lucky to break even, and I'm eating
gas station food, and I'm doing my hair in a
closet somewhere, and like barely got time to sound check,
and so it's just crazy. It's hard on your body,
it's hard on your mind. But that's in everything. So yeah,

(01:10:21):
I just I wanted you all's opinion because I struggle.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
With like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
But it's not in everything. That's what I'm saying. Like,
your job is, it's never ending your job as an artist.
I say this all the time, even about Luke, like
it's one of our best buddies. But I'm like, man,
I don't even know if he gets paid enough to
be honest with you, because nobody sees the sacrifice that
these guys make. Man, they see him on stage, they
see him get to hang out with cool people, they

(01:10:46):
see him jets and it's a picture of the you know.
But like dude, even Luke sits. He sits in a
in a locker room of these like huge arenas. He's
playing for hours upon hours.

Speaker 11 (01:11:02):
During the day.

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
He I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:11:03):
He landed in a helicopter, uh for one of the
shows we played, and I think he's living his life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
But it'll make you that It'll the fence post.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
I'll start the argument and then switch sides on you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
And I love to argue when you're walking up on
stage getting entertained of the year. It'll make all that
Clauset make up. Yeah worth it.

Speaker 11 (01:11:24):
It's sweet and you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Hey you're freaking great man. Yeah that was so much fun.

Speaker 7 (01:11:31):
Thanks for having me all. I be a fan forever.

Speaker 8 (01:11:34):
I have to listen to a podcast to do anything
to keep my brain like distracted so I can sneakily
be productive over here.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
And I've listened to so many episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Ask you this, and I'm not fishing for compiments. Don't
even think that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Okay, come on, but what do you if you were
to tell somebody why they should listen to us, what
would you even like?

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I don't understand why people listen to us.

Speaker 8 (01:11:53):
I would say definitely. The guests were the first reason
I got brought in because.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Has nothing to do with me, And yeah, I didn't
know y'all at all.

Speaker 8 (01:12:01):
And I don't care about hearing somebody talk about a
big deer they killed over and over. That's all my
husband watches on YouTube, is I have to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I feel like you're targeting me specifically with that.

Speaker 8 (01:12:14):
So tired of that, so I'm like, I don't need
to hear it, and you still got it's so big,
and so I've heard enough like hunting stories that I'm
I didn't tune in for that, but y'all were interviewing
people I wanted to hear, and then I really did
just like fall in love with y'all's personalities because you
are unapologetically you, and I think y'all have gotten super

(01:12:38):
comfortable obviously in this. So it is just a conversations.
Well because we're you're not crying or scared because there's
lights in my not We're all pretty comfortable just like
we are talking. We're not aware we have Mike's so
it's just it's real conversation. I feel like y'all aren't
asking the same basic marketing like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Oh, for real, God, I feel like we asked the
same question.

Speaker 8 (01:13:02):
Well no, I mean I didn't tell the same Like
I started sing when I was seven, I did this,
I moved here this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
It's like I said, I didn't get to this section.

Speaker 8 (01:13:09):
But I mean, it's it's just real conversation. I think
y'all are y'all were looking to do that. It feels
like as a listener, we were, we were.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
I feel like there's a whole like behind the curtain
that you guys get to show on here that I
feel like listeners appreciate.

Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
I don't think people realize how complicated it really is
until you guys talk about how complicated. Well, no doubt,
it's very complicated, and you sacrifice a whole hell of
a lot. And I just I think we want people
to understand how much goes It's not just a pretty
face in a pretty voice, Like, there's so much more
that goes into it, and it's so hard to make it.

(01:13:50):
It's so hard to even put a song out or
get anybody to give at about anything you're doing that
when you do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Do that, I think it should be recognized.

Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
Y'all make artists feel like people too like, I'm not
where I want to be in my career by any
means yet, but I feel like you do lose that
humanity part of you, and you're supposed to be this
like dance, monkey, caricature, turn it on, turn it off,
And so I already feel the pressure to do that.
And so I also love hearing y'alls conversations because it

(01:14:22):
reminds me that outside of their musical ability and their
commitment to this industry, like these people you're talking to
are people, and so I hear stories about what they
like to do outside of it, or how they grew
up or so it's a it's a great way.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
To humanize an artist too. Thanks for saying y'all are
doing important work, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
I promise I wasn't fishing for comments. I just don't
when people are like, oh, I love the show, I'm like,
but that's why.

Speaker 7 (01:14:50):
Too, you're not.

Speaker 8 (01:14:51):
Y'all are humble about it. You know you got your
toa Covi's. Y'all are shoving in people's face quite a
bit now, but we'll sing a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Song about them later. Yeah lizards, Yeah, yeah, dude, I
was going back to you because you're you're you're the
reason You're podcast exists. Uh no, I was a huge
fan before ever even knowing you or meeting you, and
I'm even a bigger fan now here and you sing
across from it, You're crazy, dude.

Speaker 8 (01:15:14):
I knew, my sweet publicist, I was like, I want
to be on that podcast. I listened to it NonStop,
and I knew they were going to have to like
I promise she's like Vince.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
Gill, like as your friend or something like please God,
just please.

Speaker 11 (01:15:26):
Talk to her.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Like when when I saw your name pop on the calendar,
I was like, are you are you having? Like, yeah,
that's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Uh, you're great.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
At the end of the show, you know, if you
listen to it, we do a little thing called gavorite, So,
uh mayes this, what's what's your favorite tune?

Speaker 8 (01:15:43):
Well today we popped around a little bit, but I
think we're gonna go with one of the greatest singers
of all time.

Speaker 7 (01:15:50):
We're gonna just try.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
To help me read take that on real quick, all
the table.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I don't think possibly one of the greatest songwriters of
all time time to mister Tony on this thing.

Speaker 7 (01:16:01):
Absolutely yeah. I don't think anyone should ever try to
sing uh leahn Womack, but here we are.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Oh, what do you know?

Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
She's my queen. She taught me to sing. She doesn't
know it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
She shook me and Dan up one day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Yeah, bro, My first deal was we say the only
no offense to anybody else who's listening to this that
I've met that was mega famous at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
She was the only person that ever star struck me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Like, my first potion deal was over with Frank at
Carnival and we always doing the artist thing were me
and Frank were working on a record and ended up
not doing it, but he was like, hey, why don't
y'all meet to set up for breakfast?

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
One time?

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
It was me, Dan, Travis Hill, and Scooter Cruso and
and so Frank was like, we'll be over at Finwicks
and we're like sure, man. So we roll up late,
of course, and get up to the table and I
see it. And when I'm walking there at those tables
at Felix kind of like wrap around so you can't
really see who's sitting here, but I see Frank and everybody,
and I'm like, what's up, man. I go around and
shake his hand. He's like, hey, read this is my wife.

(01:16:59):
And I was like no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. He's like Leanne, and I was like,
oh my god, and damn behind Me's like yeah I
was truck was like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
And so I sat down and she was like, he's
so nice. And I remember looking at her eyes and
eat beside her and eggs. I didn't eat potatoes and bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
I let her eat and she had like probably ate
perfect half of a piece of bacon and an apple
and an apple or something.

Speaker 8 (01:17:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:17:26):
Beautiful.

Speaker 8 (01:17:27):
Oh it was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
But she was so kind and like she felt like
that lady that you sit by at church that's like,
come on in here. And she smelled good somehow. Oh
I was. I was blistered. I still I still wonder
if I acted like like you know what I mean,
you think back on me. Was I an idiot?

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:17:46):
I did act like an idiot.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
I got to meet her super quick backstage at the
Arkansas Country Music Awards.

Speaker 7 (01:17:51):
She was there honoring Mark right wow, and.

Speaker 8 (01:17:55):
I just got my picture with her and I was like, Heyleenne,
I just needed I won a Female Vocalist of the
Year at the Arkansas.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
Let me go talk to Helian.

Speaker 7 (01:18:07):
So I got a picture with her and I was
like everybody on TikTok.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
Says, I sing like you.

Speaker 8 (01:18:13):
So she was like oh, and I was like, why
did I say the word TikTok when I got to Ceelia?

Speaker 7 (01:18:20):
So one day I hope I get to well, Haileyenne
if you're watching.

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
On podcast, to.

Speaker 7 (01:18:28):
Ms May asked, let's head on down the little rock
that enough.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Temple for you.

Speaker 8 (01:18:34):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
I had to leave my life and days.

Speaker 9 (01:18:39):
That town on always be, and every crowd on every corner,
every face shot.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
With nothing there to take a guess.

Speaker 10 (01:19:02):
I drove away without looking back, and I guess that's
how I gotten where it is.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
Going anywhere as fast as I can. I'm a little
pass little rock further down a lot too soon, and
are supperhead too.

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Late to change my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I gotta keep my heart on this and botas on
the field.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
I'm learning more with every month. Just tell even fields.
It's all a stragic black time into the blood. Don't
know what I'll do. I'm a little pass it walk,

(01:19:54):
but all the way from more food.

Speaker 11 (01:20:00):
May God, man, you're a killer man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I guess I got you, got you got you so
professional to COVID sit a little present there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:20:21):
Oh my gosh son, thank God so much. I mean that,
I know you did y'all see my toast peeling off.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
You got you. Thanks for coming. You're such a killer singing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Man disguise the limit, Yeah, just getting started. This guy
is a limit. You got it all your You're a superstar.

Speaker 7 (01:20:40):
This podcast is really gonna send me into orbit cos
it's really great.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Totally is you never know these days. Hey go check
out the EP. What's it called? Mayes Just Love it self?

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Titled EP? Great songs, great tunes. I look forward to
see what you do next the songs you come out with.
Would love to be a part of one. Maybe that's
really all. This is just deployed fine print. I don't
know if you know. We we require debut album on
God's Country. Artists to watch debut album two songs at
least in a single. That's you signed cook. Thank you

(01:21:17):
for hanging out God's Country. Thank you all for hanging
out God's Country. And we'll check you next time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
May Peace

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