Ep. 62: Rascal Flatts, Try That in a Small Town, and Turkey Season with Neil Thrasher

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're off in God's Country We also known is Will
also known as the Brothers Hunt, where we take a
weekly drive to the intersection of country music and the
great outdoors, two things to go together, like fast cars
in freedom or rolling in putts and having a tempo.

(00:30):
Tempo and your brain.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
He taught me about that today is to stick around
listen to that, and maybe your putting gets better from
listening to this podcast, and.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Your handicap drops and you're better off of this point pressure.
It is brought to you.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
By meat eater Neil Thrasher, one of my favorite dudes
in Nashville singing, Oh my Goodness, has wrote a million
Rascal Flats hits. Because he sounds just like a galic Ox.
Sounds like him, I should say, think so too. Tells
an awesome turkey story when he lived down in Leaper's Fort,
had some land down there. Turns a great turkey story.

(01:00):
You're gonna want to stick around for that. It's kind
of like his gavorite hunting story.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's right. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Good one also gives kind of the the behind the
scenes curtain pullback of his recent hit smash Try that
in a small town, which he started a podcast over.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's kind of blown up.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Bro did it at the inoperation. Jason just did it
at the inauguration in the road. Dunda must have been
crazy in there for that one. But you're gonna want
to you want to stick around for that does a
killer medley at the end for his favorite of a
song he wrote, and then a song he pairs it with.
I didn't see it coming, man, and when it came out.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Of Have you ever played a show with him?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I played one. We played that, uh that benefit And
as I think he did it there, he did it
there I remember him doing I just didn't. It's so
it just caught me by surprise again and it's blows
my mind at what key he plays it in and
how he gets up there.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Guy's a killer, He's a KPO killer. He's gonna he's
gonna ko up. We got roasted again. We got roasted.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And it's a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Love getting roasted.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
This one's a little sweet. He didn't go to too mean. Uh,
actually it's really nice now that I'm looking at it.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Joe Rogan. The title of this is from Jay Duskin.
Any ideas dusk.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Neither Joe Rogan meets the trailer part boys. Uh oh,
Probably my favorite pod going TBH. A couple of nice
couple of nice little you know, yeah, what are those called?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, it's kind of like innu windows. What is that
one there?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I'll get roasted for that.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Probably my favorite pod going TBH. All gas, no breaks.
It's like the most concussed version of Billy Bob from
Varsity Blues grew up and convinced Luke Combs and Steve
Vanella to put a beer fridge in the garage. Pull
yourself up a cooler and sit Pull yourself up a
cooler to sit on and listen to Sammy Kershaw on

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eleven between trail cam photos and Turkey gobbles.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
A lot of information in there, yeah, the guys, I mean,
here's paints a nice little picture. Here's what I take
away from from this.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
First off. It wasn't that mean, so thanks for that,
but you know, yeah, but it was, it was it
was slighted. Yeah, but this guy is a listener. This
guy has listened to a lot. He is dropping clues,
some blues clues in there, you know, because we always
talking about Sammy Kershaw, always like he dropped him in

(03:24):
there Turkey Gobbles. There's obviously the Luke Comms reference.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I never watched Duskin, did you watch Barshi Blues a
long time ago?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I never watched it.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think it's like a really good movie. I think
we should probably.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Go back and watch. It's a series, right, No, it's
a movie. Greatest movies of all time. It's very questionable.
One of is still questions. It was kind of cult
following type show.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, it was a good one though.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Thanks for not being too mean but kind of not
liking this, but liking this a whole lot, Jay Duskin.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Hey, does any does does anybody ever come up to
you and you're like, dude, I love that story you
told on the so and so podcast with so and so,
and you have no clue what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I don't even have a clue what you're talking about
right now, Like if somebody came it to you, like
they're like, dude, what about that time on what podcast?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
What about that time hardy?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh when someone else listener comes up and they're like,
what about that time hardy Man? Not solid guess because
that was a big one, but like all like random
story throughout the podcast, throughout the seventy podcast that we've done,
I think I can't remember them. I think it's an
I think.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
What what you the listener doesn't understand is by the
time you're hearing this, we've probably already cut two more and.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Have like.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Informational information.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
You have to uh, it's not download. What is it
when you put information on another drive?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Offload?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Offload when you have to offload.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
The podcast as they come and go, So you can't
keep up with the current with what the listener's hearing
because you're already two or three episodes in advance. All
that to say, please keep coming up to us and
asking us if we remember.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
And if we say if we say no, just yeah,
just tell us what happened.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Hey, I got I've been getting approached lately about the podcast.
I was sending Donald's the other day and this guy
comes up. He's like I could see it on his face,
like the way people sometimes look at Luke when we
were Luke. He was like, hey man, you Dan is
well come. I was like, yeah, man, he was like,
I just want to tell you all love the podcast.
I was like, hey man, thanks for coming up to me.

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He was like we listened to every episode. Man, I
was like, bro, thanks, man, that means like it's happened
three or four times now from the podcast.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I had a lot of people at Duck Camp. Yeah,
last night, I think the I think the words getting out.
They were cool, like they listened to every episode. They
were dropping like funny things that had happened, like I
was just talked about and I didn't know about. But
they were like, you know remember yeah, man, I mean
it's cool, It's we just ass man. We talked so much.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I can't believe people like it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I can't believe. I can't believe people watch or listen
to every episode. But hey, we appreciate it. Keep on
doing it, keep sending it to your friends, keep sharing it,
keep following us on Facebook and YouTube and TikTok. We
back coming up to me and random outdoor stores. Man,
that's right. We love to hear it. Keep roasting us.
Five stars might get shout out on this on this pod.

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Keep listening.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We'll enjoy Nol Thrasher burn Good.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
We are Speed, Green Light Go.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
We got former lead singer of Thrasher Shiver the rock band.
I said, big deer killing. Just got back from a
hunting trip in Louisiana. Dude, we're middle of January. Jealous
of that, jealous of that down there right now?

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yoh yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
As CAP Songwriter of the Year, Turkey Colin Alabama boy
written over eleven number one songs, Give me some of
that money.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
They're monsters too. They're not like they're not like a
little passive number ones.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Including some of your favorites.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
We will touch on here in a little bit, co
host of the Try That in a Small Town podcast. Man,
we got our great buddy, mister Neil Thrasher out in
Guy's Country, Will's Today.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
He's a golfer too. Hey, okay, y'all do this at
night because we got kids. It took me fourteen hours.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
To get here from you call it the same. That's
why you beat me here, dude. What's up with you?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Man?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
What you've been doing?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I've been doing what you guys have been doing, grinding, grinding.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I probably don't write.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
As much as you guys do anymore.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
We kind of pulled the old e break a little bit.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Really, I mean, I still I probably I guess I
am averaging probably four times a week at this point.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, I used I used to not I but now
I'm writing four times a week.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean you would say you're writing four times a week.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Bro, looking at our schedule. I got to be out
of here today to do it. You got today, You're
working today?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
No, of course not.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Well I might, but I'm gonna go back home. I'm
gonna go back home and write because I zoom right
now and COVID was the best thing that ever happened
to me.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I love zoom riting.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
When you got over eleven. Number one is you can
do whatever you want to do too.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, especially those dude, did you read them there?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I couldn't listen to that one. I skipped that. That's
the only one I skipped.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I had to sing that at one of my daughter's
graduations to.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Get through it.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, I got through it, but I got sick when
I got the call that day. And when I say sick,
I mean I got nauseated when I got the phone
call that they wanted me to sing that. Because Brett
James's daughter and my daughter in the same grade and
they were both graduating, he and I both had to sing.
They asked him to sing Jesus take the wheel. And
then they asked me to do there Goes my.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Life and and.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
I was like, oh no. Sometimes it's hard enough to
do that song, you know, in certain situations. But at
a graduation you got all these caps and gowns.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
And parents and the yeah, and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Oh no, I don't know if I can do this.
I don't know if I can make it through it.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah I did, Yeah, of course you did. You're a
pro dude, whatever, you are pro all right, So go
back to COVID. Code's the best thing to happen to you,
just to just to make you slow down a little bit,
no zoom writing. Oh, just that I didn't have to
come into town anymore. That was there was a time
when I look forward to coming into town. Sure, but
I con't know that I've ever had a time where

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I looked forward coming into town ever ever since I've.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Been here, ever, just because I don't feel like I'm built.
I'm not Nashville built, and you're I mean you're not either.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, yeah, but I mean when you get here though,
like you Yeah, it's shiny right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
You got new rights, you got new co writes. People
you've never written with and you look forward to it.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I remember those you don't know it yet, yeah, and
then you then you know it after some years yeah,
and some songs, and then it gets a little it's
different now, it becomes different.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Zoom. I love it. Thank you, COVID. It's the only
good thing about you.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I love it too. I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I love it too.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
We have a love hate relationship with COVID because everybody
was real mad at it.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
But all we did was Turkey hunt every day. The
Turkey hunted every day of season. Absolutely remember what started that?
Because Turkey Season, I mean March and April was the
first of it, right, so like nobody, nobody's even zooming,
nobody's even working trying to figure it out because they're like, oh,
let's just take a couple of months, a month, a
couple of months off and we'll jump back on the
horse in the summer, and then here you go. You

(10:28):
get into you know, eight and ten months of it.
But but Turkey Season was out up front of it,
where literally there was you couldn't go anywhere the world
was shut down, so where you could could you go
to the woods? Crazy?

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Absolutely, there's probably more Turkey Hunt and going on. If
that time he was, I was moving into a new
house when Covid. I remember that April, we're moving in.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
So I had a lot going moving in down there, Yeah,
in College Grove, and so I had a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You probably played a lot of time, a bunch of
golf too.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Oh we played. We played so much golf. I my
handicap went down two strokes.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I bet every day.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I guarantee, I bet you played everything. I mean, I
would have you know. Uh, the first time we first
time we met Neil was was at the Massioak. Was
that the first time we met, when we played that tournament.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's first time I met him.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm better since.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Then, are you?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah? He got many kids.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
You get three, it'll get it'll get worse.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I know my wife's barred me clubs for like Christmas
and stuff, and I ain't even swung them.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
You know, there ain't no time for nothing.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
That makes no sense. You get three little ones in
your wife's buying you golf clubs, and that may be
a signal.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
And not letting you go.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, not let But we were I don't know if
you remember this, we were down there and uh, That
was a special week for me and Dan, especially me
because as we were playing all we were playing that scramble,
we got the news that Kind of Love We Make
was going number one and it was my first number
one is Dan's third. I remember that, and we were
so pumped man, and Neil was so pumped for us.

(12:06):
And I still I still tell the story, but uh
we uh. He was like, man, congratulations, dude, that's so great.
That's so great, man. And I was like, thanks, buddy.
He was like, hey, man, He's like listen, He's like,
I ain't taking nothing away from you. He was like,
but back in the nineties, all you needed was one
more and you could retire.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
He was like, that way, no more of me, dog.
I remember him say, I didn't say one more.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
I probably said yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think he said a couple more.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I do remember you saying this back in the day,
if you had a hit, if you had a record
that came out, and you had a hit on the
record and like four or five cuts on the record,
that you would be looking at a mega chunk.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
And I'm like, you mean, what just happened to me?
I'm not even close. You're like, I mean, well, it was.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
It was one of the it was back in the day.
It was like when when my run with Raph Flats
and Jason al Dean all that was kicking in and
those guys were selling three and four million records and
if you had three or four or five songs on
each record, I mean, you're you're it's pretty good. You
got a pretty decent catalog to sell. It's made a
lot of money. You did good on mechanicals. You can

(13:17):
you know, if you're smart with your money, you can
live off of that stuff for the rest of your
life if you're smart. And we were so blessed to
be to hit our lick when that was going on.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
When you say, Williams have basically you and Wendell.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Me and Windele and me and Michael Delaney had a
bunch together all.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
That today and he's looking at that who wrote them?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah? Yeah, so I mean over the years, you know,
because my run with the with the Flats has been
going on since two thousand and we had I probably
had over fifty songs cut by those guys and being
on and having four or five on each record back
when they were selling top of the game too. Yeah, yep,
when they're getting ready to do it again. Yeah, And

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I called that. Gary told me. LeVaux said, you're out
of your mind if you think I'm going back on
the road. And I said, you wait, And this was
like a year and a half, two years ago. I said,
I said, no, it's it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Why Why did you think because he has to have it.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
No band in history has been as big as they
are and never not going back out on the road
at some point. Yeah, the fan base is too big.
You have to do it for the fans.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right, And there's probably two I would imagine if that's
your life for so long, especially at that level, Like
I mean, anytime you go out on the roads to grind,
but like they're not, they're not. That's not really hard
at that point, like like your time away from home.
But but your buses, you're you're in and you're out.
Your planes you're in and you're out. So it's fun, right,
And and that happened. There was a run of years

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for them that where they're at the top of the game.
It feels like if if it was that for you
and you get and you and you and you hang
up the you know, you hang the cleats up on it.
At some point down the road, you're gonna want to
get back in it just a little bit, like you
missed it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I was that I was on the verge of like, Okay,
I told Landa, my wife. I said, I'm gonna slow
it down and we'll do so I'll do some writer
shows and whatnot here and there, and just but we're
we're okay, and I'm just gonna kind of just coast
a little bit. And then freaking, you know, Lovelace comes
in with try that in a small town and I'm like,

(15:24):
we wrote that, and I was like, nobody's.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Gonna cut that.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
And I was on the verge of just shutting it down.
I was gonna semi retire. Yeah, you just kind of
coast a little bit, and he freak. We wrote that
and back up brought it, you know, and got with
Tolly and Kurt, and of course al Dean couldn't wait
to put it out. It was the timing of that
thing was just, you know, it was dumb. And then
that kind of got me back in the game. Now

(15:48):
signed over there with al Dean and now I'm writing again.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
In the game. We'll touch on that later, we like
to do a little start off, a little segment called
what You're mad at?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Neil?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
What am I mad at?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
You gotta think about it.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
What y'all got a awful.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Mad Just tell us what it is? What you're mad at?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Is it you're in lost kids, my being boss, me
or your neighbors cat?

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Just tell us what mad.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Him?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I try to try to give nil. How y'all get that,
Loucis early That's amazing. I've been up to fight with
I've been okay, Yeah, I've been. I've been about since
about two thirty fIF fifteen.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
What am I mad at?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
What am I mad at? What do you can be?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Where do you can be glad? You can be glad to.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
You can be glad or something if you want to.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
I have I've had to work on mattitude because I
get mad at a lot of things. I was telling
y'all earlier. We have this segment on our podcast where
it's thrash talk, and it just kind of happens when
it happens and I'll start ranting. Man, I was just like,
I have to I have to really be caring.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know what I'm mad at? I'm mad at people?
That say.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
When they're like, oh, you know, what's up with you?
I'm like, oh, man, just you know, trying to trying
to write songs, trying to get back in the gym
a little bit. And they're like, oh man, getting back
in the gym. Yeah, they're like, don't you love how
you feel after you work out? I hate when people
feel good. I hate when people say, don't you feel
good after you because I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I feel tired.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
My shoulder hurts and I'm tired the rest of the day.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
So I don't feel great. Because you're lifting weights, Dude,
you ain't got no business lifting weights.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Maybe you're trying to lift too much. I mean, if
you just if you do more reps.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, I'm not because I'm weak as well water right now.
So there's no way I'm lifting too much weight because
there ain't.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Much weight on there.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Weight lifting.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I like, I like lifting. I would rather do that.
I would rather do that. See mine mine has to
do with working out too. My my watching mad at.
I Uh, I'm a Brent Wad. I'm a Brentwood mom. Dude,
Brintwad together, Brentwater. I'm in there working out with Brent
One moms spring Hill moms. I guess if you work

(18:10):
out and you're a punk in Brentwood or Watt.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
It ain't about working out for you, is it.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
No, because it is it. It's what it is. It
is hot works, right.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So there's eight saunas in this place and they get
up to one hundred and thirty degrees and you can
do the row machine. You can go in there and
do free weight sent them, you can do yoga, you
can do I do the elliptical. So my routine is
I'll get up, you know, early in the morning, get
my better call saw on my telephone and I'll set
it in front of me in the sauna. I'll turn

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the video all the way down and I'll sit there
and I'll do the elliptical for thirty minutes and one
hundred and thirty degree sauna awesome. I do feel amazing
when I get done with that. It sucks you're in
the middle of it, but I feel awesome when I
walk out of that place. So that's my that's my
routine by myself. And you can go online and you
book your classes and you can see if anybody is
booked for that time.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
So usually I try to find spots where nobody is.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Never had a time where somebody came in with me
in the in the sun, this little cramped up room,
this eight by eight room, eight by eight, it's tiny.
I got deer boxes bigger than that.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's small.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
And so the other morning I get in there, wait
for the person to come out, her times blocked on
the sheet. She comes out, How you doing good to
see it ain't nobody. There's one other person in the
whole spot I wait for to come out, get my phone,
put up their better costs all, turn it up, turn
the video down, start pumping. Door opens, And I was
like what She's like, Oh sorry that I thought I

(19:33):
just jump in here with you, not book the cla
didn't book it on the sheet. Didn't just thought she
might get a little hot work session in while Oh okay,
it just and now I got to turn better Costs
all off, and I got to sit there for thirty
minutes in silence and think about how much I don't
want to be there now, because, like, and I'm watching a.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
TV show, it goes by fast.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
But if you're just sitting there working out and you're
thinking about working out, then I'm just thinking about how much.
I don't want to be working out, but you keep
going back.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, hot wives, I mean hot works, Brentwood, but you
keep going back and working out anyway.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Brent, because here's I don't neil. I don't care about
being hot, dude. I just want to I just want
to put days of my life.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
I don't know what am I mad at. I stay
mad at some things, but it doesn't last long. I
don't want to. I don't get furious at anything.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, sometimes it's big, sometimes it's yesterday. Mine was shampoo
conditioner bottle looking.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
I mean I can get I can. I could go
off on things that I'm mad at, but I don't
want to get political.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Let's go viral, lg B LGB.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Let's go viral.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Why not, right right?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
No, I don't want y'all get red flag like COVID.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Dude, Let's go viral. Good lord, oh man, I wouldn't
be mad if I was you either, thrash. You've written
some huge songs. You live on an awesome golf course,
great family. Hit it at my putting right now. I
am mad at that golf. I go through I go
through putting phases. I've got to pass so many putters.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Now, have you dabbled in the lab yet?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
No, I've putted with one and messed with it, but
I have. I have dabbled with it, but I haven't
put one in my back.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
What is the lab? It's the new putting craze. Dude,
Lie Angle Lab, Lie Angle whatever. Ballistics.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, whatever the balance, Lie angle balance.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
They feel good. But you know, I'm a field player,
so it's like I have to. It has to be
the least amount of weight I can have down there
where I can just feel the club head and feel
the weight better.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't like getting technical on my putting.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't like either. I don't like stepping it off.
I don't like like, oh, I'm going to go ten
o'clock a seventy percent. I can't do that when I
put I want to feel like I'm shooting basketball, Like
I want to this the same, the same like you
don't know how far you are from that goal, You're
just feel right, you're just feeling it out and and dude,
and it's the same thing in basketball, right, like when
you're stroking, you're stroking and you get hitting everything. I

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feel like I'm the same. I'm a I'm a very
very hot or cold putter. Yeah, I'm not a good putter.
I'm just a I'm just a streaky putter.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
You're supposed to be instinctive. This could turn it into
like a golf that's all right podcast for this morning.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I could go thrash, can play.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I've played with you cats before. I know how this goes.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
So what let's let's get it. Let's talk about putting
for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
What do you?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Why are you mad at your putter?

Speaker 4 (22:34):
That's just because I can't settle on one thing. I
get mad, and usually when I get mad at my
golf game, it gets better. I got better at golf
when I got mad at my game.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
What's your like when you're putting bad or you're yeah,
let's go putting. When you're putting bad? What what's the
first thing you do?

Speaker 4 (22:49):
When I'm putting bad? The first thing I do I
start looking at the hole and start doing drills and
field drills, and I don't look at the ball, look
at the hole, okay, And I'll do those drills for
an hour.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Just feel feeling it, feeling it, seeing it go in
the hole.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
And I won't even look down at the ball, I'll
be looking and I'll put not looking at the ball. Yeah,
and it pure every time. Yeah, it's weird and it's
weird how the brain works in golf.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, I can't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I've always heard swing the putter and just let the ball, like,
let the ball be there, don't hit the ball, let
the ball get in the way. This is an interesting conversation.
I get that.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I like, you told me something the other day that
helped my punt button completely, like changed just one little thing.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And it was that.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
When you within four feet instead of like coming all
the way back, you just you want to go ten.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Is that what you said? What was the thing?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, short, long, short, long on short putts too.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
That I mean that probably saved me four strokes that round,
just that little tiny So, like, what's your you know,
if you're telling a guy how to putt, how do
you how are you telling the putt?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
There's no reason why guys who are who are talented
musically and athletically have some semblance of an athletic ability.
There's no reason why they shouldn't be decent golfers simply
because of the rhythm and the tempo. I mean, they
have apps on your phone. You can get on your phone,
you know, metronome maps and things like that. You can

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lay them by your ball and get rhythmic with everything.
From the time you look at the ball, get behind it,
to look at your line. Everything should be a rhythm
and be oh. Absolutely, you walk up tempo, you walk
up to that tempo, You get behind the ball to
that tempo, put your putter behind the ball to that tempo.
You put to that tempo. Wow, and it's it works.
It's unbelievable how good it works.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
You get me off on this, But well, I mean,
how do I'm telling you, I'm curious, how do I
how do I figure out what that tempo.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Without getting technical? And you start it starts becoming more
musical and more becomes a dance.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
And everything you do in golf when you step into
that bubble and step into that square and it's time
to hit a shot, it's in your head when you're
done shooting the ship with your boys on the t
box and it's time to step in that box. It
should that's when it should start.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
And nobody will know what's going on in your brain.
And it's going on and you will find fair ways.
You will hit greens even in your short game. When
you miss greens. That when you step into that box
and you're chipping or you're putting to that, can you
find your number. Everybody's got a different number.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, it could be the speed of the right everybody's
got a different tempo because it's not sporadic at that point.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right, So it's controlled. Yeesh, it's in. It's within a meter.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's amazing how good it works.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Unbelieving is that.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
When people say tempo, are they talking about that? Yes,
I thought they were talking about the speed of your swing.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
It is, but it's got to be in rhythm too.
It's got to it's got to have a certain tempo.
Like you'll you'll talk to it. You'll see some players
giving if you if you YouTube, are googled tempo and golf,
and you see some of these tour players. They all
have their number like.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Like twenty three seven, Yeah, eighteen eight.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Or or just or just or just sixty four or whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, that's what that's your magic number.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
And that determines when you start your back swing, where
you end your back swing, where you click.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
With the ball.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
The whole thing Wow, dude, that's mind. I've never I've.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Never know that. It's amazing, how good it works. Your
game's gonna be money.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
When you start using.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Your and usually and usually you slow it down like
you never tempo. Don't want to speed up on your
golf swing. You want to you want to get it
almost where it's uncomfortably slow. Okay, it's easy to do
with a putter.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Let me ask you this, if you were to put
a song to your tempo, because I feel like mom
would be well life when the bars kind of led
back because I don't know what's happening, you know what
I mean. But if you were to put if you
were to put your tempo to a song when you
walk up to the ball, what song is it? What
could you play to that tempo?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Man?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
He's a how country feels guy?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
I have a video I have a cooked and it
could be that. It could be that, but I have
a actually have a video at Sawgrass at TPC Sawgrass
and we're playing in a tournament.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Out there that Kentucky. Oh my god, i'mna slap you
in the fen. Just shut up. Where's it that we're
not cutting that TPC Sawgrass player Championship seventeen. Cool, we'll
get back, We'll talk Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
But it was on number seventeen on the on the
island green real famous.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Hole and most famous.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, and any any any guy, any songwriter, a musician
that came up to the T box that the host
would put on a song that you wrote while you're
playing in bank It no, but but they put on
try that in a small town when as I was
driving up and they cranked and it was it was,
you know, shut about somebody on the side, and it's

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and it's freaking blaring across that lake. And I've got
video of it. And when they introduced me and did
all that, I stepped up and I fell into that song.
I just fell into the rhythm of it. And that
was eight feet Yeah. I swung to the tempo with
that song.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
You missed the putt?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yes, damn. I was hoping you wouldn't ask me that
I wanted to burn. I've played seventeen a bunch and
knocked it close, and I have not burned it yet.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh man, that's super cool. Okay, See, that's exactly what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Now.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
There's probably some novice golfers out there that just learn
about tempo.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I had no idea. I'd literally never heard.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
If you bring up golfing huntings and I'm gonna sit
up in the chair and start talking.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I mean, that's all we talk about.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Music is all we do. You know, we talk about
it and we do it all the time.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I'm gonna go for scratch this year. I'm gonna try
to get it down.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It's all short game now, yeah, yeah, because I know
how far you hit it and how good you hit it,
because I've played with you and you hit it really
well and you hit it straight. Yeah, you vomit.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I just gotta I gotta cut strokes down around
the green.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
It's what it's about.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Really.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I think I'd like to shoot in the seventies this year.
That's what I'm trying to do, just like seventy nine.
Whatever I'll try. I wish I could just go around
do that. It's hard to do.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
You go hang with meteroll Zell for.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
A little while.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
No doubt that guy's good. Give us a little recap
of your deer season, be dog. You just got back
from Louisiana.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yep, I killed a big old deer in October on
Gary La Vaux's place here we were shooting coals inside
his high fence.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Nice, yeah, congratulations.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Isn't it fun having a rich artist? Friends?

Speaker 4 (29:27):
I sold him four hundred and forty of mine because
my my farm was right next to his. And when
he decided to put a high fence up, he was
gonna have to run it through one of his bottoms.
And that's that's tree trouble and limb trouble all the time.
And one day I was just joking around. I said,
won't you buy from BlackBerry Road east from me so

(29:49):
you can run your fence and make a perfect square.
And I was kind of just kidding, but I told
that to his brother and his brother and called me
like to his later, Hey, are you serious about that?
Like no, maybe, I don't know. I wound up selling
everything on that road. And then he ran his fence
and made a perfect square.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Why not? I mean he hunted probably whenever you want to.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
He's got like thirteen hundred acres or something inside the fence. Anyway,
we there was like a list of bucks that needed
to go. They were old, yeah, needed to come out
of there. So I shot one of those, was the
biggest seven point but killed my life.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It was a giant.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I love a big seven. I shot a big seven
this year.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, huge deer.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
So that that's the only deer I killed this year.
And I went after some more. And I just got
back from Louisiana. I go down there every year. Good buddy,
Mine's got an island down there, next to Giles Island.
It's in Louisiana, but it's across the river from nationals Sssissippi.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
And so you're like boating it and you boating it
to it.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
No, we don't have to. He built up he built
when he bought the place twenty something years ago. He
built it like a two hundred year flood road from
the main levee out to the island.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh not nice.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah, And it's it's crazy. I mean, I've seen deer
out there swim the Mississippi. I've seen I've we've we've
seen wounded deer jump into river. Yeah, go all the
way across, swim two point one miles all the way
across and coming out on the bank.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
And that just mississippidness.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
We've seen it happen. Those deer, the deer unbelievable. People
don't realize that these deer swim the Mississippi River on
a regular basis because they want to, not because they
were wounded or whatever. They'll go back and forth just
to get back home.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Missippi State Deer Labor or whatever did a did a study.
Put a collar buck on on Giles Island and uh
and just wash his patterns. And he would every year
would swim the Mississippi in summer, try farm in inland, yep.
And then when it was time to go rut and
go go winter somewhere, he would swim the Mississippi and

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live on Jiles Island for the rut and for the winter,
and then swim it back.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
And that was this pattern.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
That's just funny, you said, Joles Island. The biggest deer
ever killed on the Rifle Point or period was a
Giles Island deer. It was when when the original owners
of Giles Island had it. He was like one of
the high dollar deer that they had.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
They swam it.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
No, he came when the river started coming up, because
Giles Island and Rife appointed right next to each other,
and when the river started comes up, it fills up
all the lowlands and pushes all the deer to the
high highest ground around so and this deer came off
of Giles and probably swam or went across a little
shoot of the old Mississippi River. They't no water in
this room and came up there. I was just there

(32:29):
at the right time. How big was How big was he?
It's a tent A clean ten point was one hundred
and seventy six ags.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
To clean ten y'all see this turns sound up.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Those delta deer can get some believe they're crazy, man,
and they're huge, three hundred pounds before I've seen that. Yeah,
I've seen that. I've never seen that. One guys in
a bass bone. That turkey is under like a submarine,
and gossip, you swim, I've seen there.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You know what body of water that is?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
You see? All right, let's.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yes, alarm putting.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
It looks great swimming.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
I've seen him swim, but I've never seen I've never
seen it in that deep of waters. Goblin and goblin.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
It doesn't savora.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Oh man, it's probably down there somewhere because it's crazy
down yea. The animals racked there there, they're wild.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
One of the replies is I'd have to have to
give him a ride to Greece.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, take that one out. What was uh, what was?
What was hunting in the outdoors? Like for you growing up?

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Are you from Alabama? Just south just below Birmingham.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Okay, like right off sixty five.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Birmingham is kind of off of two eighty more to
eighty Shelby County. Yeah, I was in Jefferson County. That's
where I grew up, went to high school. But Shelby
County is where I grew up on my grandparents place
where I learned all everything there was to learn about
hunting and fishing. Down there in Shelby County. We had
a we had a like a fifteen acre lake that
was in the family, been in the family for years

(34:08):
down in the country, and and uh, me and my
cousins and everybody, we learned how to fish there and
learned how to hunt there.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
So I learned how to shoot a gun from my grandfather.
On my mom's side. All my music came from my
dad's side, and all my outdoor stuff came from my
mom's side. Even though my mom's dad he sang with
Gene Autry back in the day, so it was on
both sides. Yep.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
As as dads of kids. And I know you've got
two girls. Did you ever, like, did you ever get
them out with you? Did they? Did they?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Did they ever hunt with you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:46):
They've both killed deer with bows?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh really, yep.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
I got them going early on the on the archery
thing when they were when they got old enough to
pull one back. They shot deer with guns and stuff early,
But when they got strong enough to pull one back,
that would that would fling a narrow fast enough to
kill a deer. They I got, I had them doing it,
and they both did.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
How do you because I want mine to?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I mean, I got little girl two years old, little
boy a year old, and I want them to hunt
so bad. Like I've got them toy guns at home,
and we we like I'm the deer and they're shooting
me and stuff. How do you do it without forcing
it on them? Do you just?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
You just do it and your love of it will
draw them in.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Or take them. Yeah, you'll get them, you'll get it.
You'll get a good indication early. Yeah, you know whether
they love it or not. But once they once they
see deer start coming out in the food plot, nine
times out of ten, their bit.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, true. You know, yeah, when.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
You got them in a box or in the ground
bine or whatever and they see deer start coming out, Yeah,
they get fascinated, just like we did.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
What about the gun situation though, as far as like
loud and it being intimidating, how do you curve that?
Like to kids? You know, that's that's the most usually
the thing. It's like, oh then I'm too young now.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
You just put a suppresser on it.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Last Yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't have I didn't use
ear text when I.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I was telling Atlanta this morning when I woke.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Up, I was like, man, my tonight is just bad.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
This morning.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
It's just constant white noise. Y'all have that?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Mine is the mind ring all mine.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Just sounds like white noise.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
And yeah, you know it's like electric.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
You don't even need to sleep. The sleep machine you got,
you got it in there.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
It's what I have to have something going.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
So, I mean, dude, you're you're probably like, I mean,
our dad was shooting rabbits three feet from our head.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean not even where are you at? And we're right.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Knowledge that, But I mean you put on top of
that twenty years of having a crash symbol six feet
from your head.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
That too, I mean that, dude.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
The music and the guns, oh my god. When we
were young, we didn't worry. We didn't have anything about
we didn't know anything of your protection.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I didn't care, I swear to this day. The other
day I was rocking. I was rocking my kid to sleep,
and uh, Sean does that. Honestly, she's pretty good about
doing that. But sometimes I got to take it her,
you know. So she she gave me the baby and
I was in there rocking, and I swear I could
I felt like I was in because you know, it's
a black room and the doors are all closed and
it's all dark in there, and I felt like I

(37:11):
was in a green room of one of those shitty clubs.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
And I could hear Steve Miller band playing.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I wasn't even there, but I've spent so many times
in those rooms, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I could hear people call me space. It was like
muffled am I. Oh man. That's when you know you
spent way too much time in those clas.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
That's a fact. I'll tell you what did me in
with with my left side and this it stays like
it feels like I got water in it all the time.
But what did me in I was I was turkey
hunting with a buddy, Paul King, who has that island
Extra Giles down in Louisiana. We were we were turkey
hunting and it was just an unfortunate situation. We're walking.

(37:55):
He's walking here and I'm walking here, and we're like
fifty yards from this ridge. It goes straight up and
he went, there's a big old goll or just hit one,
just hammered right there. And I'm like, we had to
sit down exactly because there was two trees right here.
I said, we had to sit down immediately because he
was so close, and it's like boom. We sat down,
and when we sat down, his barrel was right here.

(38:19):
It was right I'm I'm.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Not kidding into right here.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
And I go, oh my god, this is I mean,
I'm fixing to lose my hearing forever.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
But it's gone.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
But I took one for the team. I mean, there's
a gobbler there, he's coming up twice. Here come four
hens and here he come around the corner right behind him,
and I just I just I just went to look
at God and when he shot, it was like slow
motion and then it was like in the world disappeared
and I couldn't hear shit it was and I just

(38:51):
just laid my head back. He killed the bird and
we high five, but I was in pain. It was bad.
And it's never been the same since.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
That's close.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's close. My new move is, yeah, you see me,
I did it last year if I mean, it's.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
But I couldn't do that. I wanted to because the
hens were right here, five feet from it.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Coming home and done, I risk it. I like to
ask people this, Neil, if if you had one day
to do whatever you wanted to do, where, oh where? Yeah?
Like so turkey hunt is turkey hunt. That's over golf
and everything right where where? If you had one day
and you want there's nowhere bad.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Let me say this. I know how much you love
to golf. How much more do you love to turkey
hunt than golf?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Turkey hunt is just like you only get so much
of it. You know, it's not a it's such a
seasonal thing. Sure, and they take they keep taking days
away from it. Yeah, and that's why you because you
look so forward to because you know, you're only limited
on your time, So that's why I love it. But
the memories that I've made with turkey hunt, the heartbeat

(40:01):
that I've got, the heartbeat and the heart rate that
I get from turkey hunting. You know, you you know
what it feels like like when you shot that big
deer in Kansas. You remember what that felt? Oh yeah,
you know, But we.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Can talk, can tell you the whole story. You guys
want to know how it felt.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
When you have a gobbler goblin or two or three
or four and they're just over a ridge and you
can't see them, but they're right there and you can
hear them spitting and drumming. That is a different kind
of heartbeat. That's a different kind of adrenaline. And all
turkey hunters know exactly what I'm talking about. And it
doesn't matter where it is Tennessee, Missouri, Turkey.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
It's just hot goblin in front of you.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
It doesn't matter where it is.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Can you walk us through one of your favorite turkey hunts.
I'd just like to hear turkey hunting for at I
haven't I haven't even broke the seal.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
On this, and I've got so many I have no
earthly idea one that it's just special turkey hunt, special
turkey hunt.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
It could be anything, could be anywhere with anybody, could
be your by yourself. I always think about the one
I killed on public over here on the lake that was.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
And you killed one on public ground, that's always a
good one. I killed a turkey where I used to
live in Leaper's Fork. I had fourteen acres out there,
and I had one gobbler that would hammer across the
black top road from my ridge every day. And I
knew he was old because it was real high pitch.
I just knew he was a new one of jake. Yeah,
And because I've heard enough old old gowbler's gobbled to

(41:32):
where you think it's a jake and it's not a
jet winds up not being a Jacin's super old bird.
But anyway, this bird was over there and he would
do it like and it got to the point where
I thought he was teasing me, because I'd go on
my ridge and I'd shoot you know, a handful of
two year olds of what from year after year or whatever,
and some decent birds, but that one bird, you could
always tell it was him by the way he gobbled
and I never could get him to come in. And

(41:54):
then I don't hunt May much because it gets so hot.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, so snakes and spiders.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
And one morning it was it was one of those
tick hot mornings and it was like and I heard
him over a goblin and it was in May and said,
towards the end of the season. At the time in
the morning, Uh, I don't even remember.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
It wasn't it wasn't early, and it wasn't late.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
He was just he was just over there just you know,
you know how they do after they're just walking circles
on the ridgetop, just.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You know, for no reason.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
There's nothing.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
They don't have any hens with them. Everybody's bred out.
But he's still over there, just hammering it, getting what
he can get. Yeah. So I said, whatever, I'm gonna
go up there. And you gotta climb a steep hill
to get up there. So I go up there, and
I'm across a blacktop from him, and we're two ridges.
He's a ridge over here and there's a big there's
a black top it runs between us, and he's got

(42:43):
to go. If he ever came over, do you have
to walk across the field, go across the black top.
So I go up there and I just I went
up there and I said, I'm not just gonna regularly
yelp at him. I'm gonna I'm going to strike the
band up here, because I remember hearing Toxi hayses it
one time when I was hunting with him. He got
so aggressive one time on one bird, and I never
forgot it, and I was like, I mean, the hat

(43:06):
comes off, he's got two push pullers in meach hand,
he's got his mouth calls, and it sounds like there's
one hundred turkeys trying to kill. What you just did
with your voice is kind of crazy. He just that's
what you do. Yeah, that sounds like, well, when you
put a when you put a mouth call in, you
go and you do all that's good, and you've got
all this going on in your hands, and you're and
you take a hat off shop and you start breaking stuff,

(43:29):
breaks and stuff, limbs, anything, you make as much noise
as you get. It sounds like one hundred turkeys trying
to kill each other. That's what I pulled out on
this joke.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
It struck a nerve somewhere.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
And in ten minutes it took him a minute to decide,
but he frick. And when I say ten minutes, ten minutes,
it's a short spirit. That's how far away this bird
was from me. He come down off that hill and
he stopped Goblin. And I knew when he quit Goblin,
when he got down to the bottom of his ridge,
when he stopped, he's coming. I knew it. I just knew.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Could you see the shot?

Speaker 4 (44:01):
I shut up, Could you see the No, it was
a little thick, but I was on top of the
ridge and it's so steep. But I was like, oh, frick,
he quick. God, when he's coming, I know he is.
And next time, next time I.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Heard him, he was right that.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
He was right there, about fifty yards from me, and
I'm like, oh, this is going to happen. I shot
this bird, went over to him. He had his left leg,
he had one spur that grew out and grew back
into his left leg. He had no spur on his
right leg. It was all.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
It was just gone.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
It's like an old buck.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
And he had this old, mangy looking beard that come
down And I never forgot that. That was probably the
most satisfying that I killed an old monarch like that.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, man, for sure, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
And he gets me fired up.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Just thinking about all the hunts I've ever had in
my life.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Turkey season special, that that first that opening weekend, first
morning in the woods and you've got birds gobbling around
and you're sitting on it back against a white oak
man and they that that opening day moment is special.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, that's something.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
And I think as we get older, like I kind
of fell out of love with turkey hunting for a
minute when I was getting into deer hunting so much.
But as I get older and love deer hunting more,
I find myself loving turkey hunting more just for what
it is.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Like my my one day is is sitting you know,
in a tree standing Kansas, waiting for you know, rattling,
trying in the middle of November, trying to rattle in
a deer. But I appreciate turkey hunting and what it
gives me in the spring, you.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Know, just also kind of our social outlet hunt, right,
like we don't I mean, we deer hunt like crazy,
but it's kind of a solitary thing, like we don't
hunt with a lot of people, you know, deer hunting
and then with turkey hunt man, it's like me and.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
You, or me and dad, or running gun, just trying
to figure it out. Talking.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
I think back to my One of my favorite hunts
was that we walked, We slept in care for, got up,
walked all the way over to the new least and
you shot that bird in the and we had to
walk back and started raining on that rich The sun
came out. It was sun and we were walking through
all this like timber that had been select cut and

(46:10):
it's rain. It was raining while the sun was out,
and Reid had a turkey on his back and there
was nowhere to get out of the rain. It was
just soaking us and the sun was out. And I
remember walking across that.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Oat flat and you couldn't wipe the smart smile off
my face. It was just like it almost felt movie esque,
you know what I mean, Like you were it just
felt like you were in a freaking movie man. And
that's the that's the thing for turkey hunting, that like,
you're not gonna get that in deer hunting. If it's
raining on you in deer season, you're like, I gotta
get out of that ship.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
It's freezing because that god with anything, the goblet, thunder.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
That thunder goblin. It's fun too, all right, we could
do this all day. Dude.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Your dad's a member of the Alabama.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Music Hall of Fame. Mm hm was it was? He's
in a gospel group, right.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Yeah, yeah, he's been. He's saying the Thrasher brothers, he's saying,
he's saying professionally since he was four years.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Old, really professionalists. He was four years old?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Was it with his actual brothers?

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Him and two brothers, and then when they got you know, older,
they formed a quartet and hired bass singers.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Wait, how old were the brothers?

Speaker 4 (47:14):
This?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
This is a group of four year olds coming in
and singing.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
No, dad was the youngest.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
He was like the Christian Jackson five.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
It really it really was because their mother, you know,
my grandmother played piano and she's the one that groomed them.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
The O G Crab family. Yeah yeah, the Thrash for five.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Yeah, yeah, so they were They did gospel music for
his whole life.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Oh what's a good gospel too? Is there something that
you can still remember that just you grew up on as.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Far as the courses, yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Right, we talked about it all the time. But why
did churches love it when a bass singer would go
and they would just raise their hands. But it was like, d.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I was raised going to that stuff.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
That's how I cut my teeth.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
On all that.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, so you were you were, you were rolling, you're
rolling with.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Them, you were going to gigs?

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Absolutely? Yeah. I actually sang with them back when I
was eighteen. My uncle who sang the tenor part, he
busted his leg up really bad and they had a
tour coming up, and and uh so I filled in
and went out and like for six months have a bus.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Oh yeah, was there Gold City?

Speaker 4 (48:42):
I got some pictures to show you all.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
You blow your mind. I was there any pressure because
we're PK's right preacher kids, we cut our teeth in
the church and singing specials and doing the whole thing
and and uh, I mean same thing, right, And there
was a little pressure too for us to continue, you
our musical journey in the church and and and do
Christian music or ye, you know, do try to do

(49:06):
a thing like that?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Was there ever any a push towards you like to
do that? And kind of like a like a you
know this kind of face when you decided to move
to Nashville.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
No, it was I was always into sports and I
always played since I was seven, played baseball and football
all the way up until I quit playing baseball or
up for high school and kept playing football. And then
I started kicking. Well, I was a junior in high school,
I started kicking. I got smart Bill, go hunt. Yeah, okay,

(49:37):
both and and so, and then I wound up going
to Middle Tennessee State University. So I went up there, kicker,
went there, went there, athlete there. But it was like
and my dad was pushing me because I went to
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to kicking camps, like one on one
kicking camps. I mean, I worked with the NFL guys
back then it was and it was mostly for punning.
But uh, my dad was I kind of felt like

(50:00):
he was kind of wanting me to go down that
path a little bit, you know, because I was good
at it, and it was like, let's do this, and
so that's kind of was a but I would the
music thing was just there. You wasn't going to get
rid of that, right, you know, And so I did
the whole artist thing after that, did the record deal.
But the songwriting thing came was a byproduct all the
artist stuff. But Dad was like I think he was

(50:24):
kind of trying to push push me toward more of
the sports direction. But he knew I could sing, and
he knew that I that I I got it honest
through my family and through the blood and everything. But uh,
he never did. Really. It wasn't one way or the other.
It wasn't like, no, you don't need to do that.
It was just kind of just kind of let me
do my own thing, see where it lived and see

(50:45):
where it took me.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, I can tell by your ankles you're a good athlete.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
What's wrong?

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Nothing, That's what I'm saying. You can tell by somebody
whether they're athletic as a football kicking foot right there
telling you Nick Saban.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I'm pretty sure Saban always looks at the ankles of
a person before he recruits them.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
That is bogus.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Just google it. It might not be a saving but
it's one of those big coaches.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
It's one of them.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
That's the weirdest ship I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Think about it. If a guy's got cankles, if a
god has made that up, dude, that's so far type
in what coach. Okay, I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Then you look at you think you looked at Jalen
Hurts and said I heard it.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Derek Heny walked into his office.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, have some good ankles there, y'all shut up and
jumps to take them socks off.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
He freeze.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, that's why I ain't got no job.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
And you're thinking of I can believe that about Auburn. Now,
that's why they lose.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
I don't think the guy.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I'm just telling you you got your ankles out. They
look like athletic ankles. I can tell this guy in
the centerm.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
I don't hind my ankles in the winter.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Y'all check these guys out. What do you think athletic?
Yeah yeah, dude, strong, strong bones?

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Oh man? What what was the decision? Like?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
If I kicked a football right now?

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Oh would my turkey hunting days will be overall?

Speaker 3 (52:11):
My stuff was just completely shatter. It was just crystallizing.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
What what was the decision like?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Like, were you forced in into getting out of the
artist thing to do the SONGWRT and thing?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Or was it was it a no, I need to
go this way.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
I'll tell you what happened.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Bye. I got.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Ninety five, we got a record deal. Me and Kelly
Shover Tennessee stand up, yes right, yes, sorry, let's start
stomping grounds hardin County. You're doing right, tigers. So he
and I started writing again and we got and we
got you know, started writing over there at Major Bob Music. Yeah,
and uh Bob said, man, you guys want to you know,
does it sounded good? It's kind of had this Everly

(52:50):
Brothers kind of thing going on, and so we did,
and we signed a record deal over to Soylemn Records
in ninety five. Did our first record, put out a
couple of songs. I was doing radio tour for most
of the whole time and opening for Patty Lovelace and
I can't say Lovelace. I used to lace my buddy,

(53:11):
it's loveless. I was wondering, was yeah, we were opening
for Patty Loveless and uh some mothers and who else?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Who else was you open for?

Speaker 4 (53:21):
I'm curious, Oh, we'd opened for like Brian White was doing.
He was rocking and rolling in. We were label mates
at the time, so we we did. We opened for him?
Someone else, Yeah, Neil McCoy, trace Atkins, we opened for him.
And Tracy Bird all those guys. So anyway, uh you
remember the nineties, I mean it was like rocking, so

(53:42):
we didn't there wasn't a shortage of people for us
to open for, and we were doing radio tour and
doing a bunch of shows, and then nothing was happening.
And in ninety six, Uh, diamon Rio cut one of
my songs in that way and they put it out.
It was one of my it was my first hit.
So that was in ninety six. That's what I get

(54:04):
for loving you. So I wrote that with Kent Blaze,
and those were like my first co writes. When I
came down, my wife had set me up with these
guys that were hooked up with Garth because Atlanta worked
for worked with Garth at the Bulls and Company and
all that. So that happened, and we're still on radio
tour and then ninety eight ninety nine rolls around. We're
doing another record. Y'all had kind of a hit, though

(54:27):
not really I thought you had it went to the forties.
We had one who went to the went in the forties.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I thought it was a higher than.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
No, No, No, And uh, we were big in certain
areas of the country we could, we couldn't get them
all collective lead together. So it's one of those deals
timing thing. Yes, and uh so we did another record,
We go out and doing radio tour again. In ninety nine,
then Reva cuts a song that I wrote with Michael
Delaney and it was my second hit, and both of

(54:54):
those went to number two. So I hadn't had a
number one yet, so they all they went to number two.
Dooking pain. Yeah, still it's really it's still good. So
in ninety nine when Reba put what do You Say
out and it went and it was a hit, I
was like, man, I wonder what would happen. I've been
doing this radio tour thing for five years with no success.

(55:14):
I'm like, wonder what happened if I just vocal? You know? Yeah,
I devoted all my time to writing songs. So I
told everybody I was done, and I made the decision
to put chasing the artist thing and just devote all
my time to writeing and learning that craft even more.
And that's what I did. Yeah, And then two thousand
rolled around and here we go, start meet Gary of

(55:36):
the Walks and start hunting with him, and you start
finding your your folks and your camps and your you
know and your your.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Niche when did you and Wendell meet? And when did
you know you had like that was going to be
one of your guys.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
I met Wendell probably right around ninety eight, ninety nine
at County Q Studios. I backed into his truck when
I was leaving. He wasn't in it. He was actually
in the studio in a vocal booth. Because I went
back in. I just got through singing a demo and
came out and I backed into his truck. I went,
damn Nation. I had to go back inside to find

(56:12):
out whose truck it was. And I'm going around to
each room in the studio because there's like three different
studio rooms or whatever at that time, and got a
black silver I did, and I said, no, it is
a blue Ford Ranger. Was like, anybody own a blue
Ford Ranger out here? And nobody said anything. And window
couldn't hurt hear me because he was in the in
the vocal booth. So I left a note on the

(56:34):
window and went back to Major Bob. Before I even
got their window had already called Lanta. He knew my wife,
He knew Lanta before longer than I had, and he
was pissed. Man, I crushed his grill. Yeah, he shouldn't
drive such a short truck.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
And uh, I bet he got a short truck.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
No, and he So that's how we met, and then
we started writing, and then we then we then we
started doing the thing and and then we had and
then my next I guess my next hit was I
Melt for flat.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Dude that this morning on the way in, I just
put on your Apple like songwriter list. It was just
listening to stuff bro that song hits.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
That songs. The way that song came about was really
cool because we're at my house, me and Me and
Gary and Wendl are at my house.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah, I saw he was a writer on that and.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
We're not doing anything about midnight and it's one of
him like I need to call it, you know.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I was gonna call it, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
And my wife comes out of the bedroom and doesn't
say a word and walks up to the mantel and
lights three candles on the mantel, turns around, walks out
and turns the lights off and goes back to bed
and window. When you light those candle from there on
the man sitting and that's how that song came to be.

(58:03):
And that was my third number two.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
That was the number two.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
I had three two's before I had my first number one,
and it was I was getting teased and I told
take it.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I think I'm not going to have.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
A number one to put on the wall on my hon.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
But who kept who kept that song? What song kept
that song out? But I don't know that song is Who.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Cares, dude?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I mean, what you think you can think about, you
think about absolutely that song is mass and timeless sash.
I'm be honest, it's twenty twenty five, and when that
song played today, I was like, that shit could get
cut today. I mean it's that big of a I mean,
there ain't nobody sing that as there was that song?
Is this?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
No, that's what that was the journey and that's where
that's when it started.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Did you sing that demo and do all that pedling
or did he kind of just do that?

Speaker 4 (58:51):
I think I sang the demo, man, I can't remember.
That's a long time ago. If we just did, if
they just cut it, we did a work tape and
they just cut.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
It was early two thousands, so you're talking.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Hearing you sing those songs, even when you sing like
fast cars and freedom and all that, I always think.
I always think to myself, like, man, what what timing
it was that you and Gary were buddies and Wendell
are doing those things and writing those songs because you
all have the same tenor tone that you can just
because a lot of times when you're writing songs, you're
trying to pitch the artists. You gotta you gotta conform

(59:26):
to the artist, right, you gotta. You can't, can't sing
too high if the guy can't go a little bit.
But like, I love being able to write those songs
because I'm the same way I'm. I'm a high tenor
and and can get up there, and I love soaring melodies.
And I don't get to write them a ton because
there ain't a lot of guys in town that can
do it.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
It's amazing though, that that there's certain artists that that
hear through it, they hear passed.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Is like I've had four, like four Trace Akins cuts.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
He's a freaking bass singer, no doubt, and he decided
to cut him off of my demo. Yeah, and my
demos there I put him where I'm gonna do them
if I'm doing a record. But there's some artists like
Blake Shelton. I've pitched him so many things and never
had a Blake Shelton cut. Yeah, and I've pisched him
so many things. But Scott Hendricks told me it's like
Blake's got to hear it where it is for him.

(01:00:11):
They don't. It's like he then the songs right here
is like, dude, you can change the key.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, we're lucky.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
We're lucky. I tried to get a Blake.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
We're I mean, we're blessed that that looke can go,
you know, because we can. It kind of just opens
the doors to be creative and rite a melody that's
kind of outside the box because you know, you got
a guy that you're going to send it to that
can do it well.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
He's got the chops. I mean that freaking he's one
of him singing the phone Book kind of guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Ain't no doubt, man, Like you've been in the game
for so long, have you ever felt jaded?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Have you ever felt tired of it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Are you kidding me? I feel like that comes in
goes it's been coming and going for the last thirty years.
Yeah for me, because that's how long I've been doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
It's over thirty yeah, And it's how do you still
get excited about it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Even now? You're still you're writing nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
It's nothing. A cool, great song won't cure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Love that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
It's just the way it is. And it's like when
you you get on one, you're like, Okay, this is
why I do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
This is fun.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
It's fun again, and then you think, and then you
go through your stages of like, I can't write a
song anymore. I lost it. Your fingers still go to
the same places on the guitar, your melody sound the
freaking same, and you're like, I'm bored to death.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Myself.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
You go through those phases and then then you go back.
I go back to just doing it. Like when I
write for something, when I write like I'm doing the record.
If I'm writing for myself, that's when I have the
most success. I'm not trying to write for somebody, trying
to write for me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
So, like the Turkey conversation we just had, when you
think back to like, obviously they're all special, but is
there a song that you that like really means is
a special kind of meaning to you that you've had
that you've written, whether it's a hit or not.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Oh, there's there's been a bunch of them. There's been
a there's There was a song on that I wrote
with Wendell called Ellsworth mm. It was on Rascal Flats
And that was that kind of started with my grandmother.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
M h, well, do you remember do you remember me
texting you about that hunting when we were we were
we were.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Turkey hunting, driving and I didn't even know that song.
And then we listen to that song, but we were
we were driving.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Through it was four thirty in the morning, you could
barely see it, and and we were driving through it
and I just heard Luke home and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Something and he's going, oh, song about And I was like,
what are you singing? And he's like Ellsworth Kansas Man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
And there was a water tower that had Ellsworth on
the side of it, and he's like, dude, Neil Thrasher,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
And I was like, wait, what that song I text you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
That early in the morning. I was like, hey, yes,
I remember that to a turkey hunt and we're driving
through a start.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Because my grandmother was like getting up there and she
was living. So we moved to Cool Springs and she
was her driving and she's like, oh, she's driving the
wrong lane. That's that kind of deal. It's just it
was about her losing it here. But but she also
lived in Kansas and it was like she could tell
you everything that all started from that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Wow, great song.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
It's funny. It's funny how those kind of diseases treat people.
They can remember what went on fifty years ago, and
they can't remember what they just two minutes ago. Yeah,
a little bit. Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
It's kind of beautiful too that that's that's what it
leaves them though, Like it leaves them the good, like
it leaves them there. Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Her biscuits were like my thing when she was you know,
And that's the first line, Grandma burned a biscuit. And
it's like because she nobody made a biscuit.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Like, why didn't nobody make a biscuit like a grandmother
me and mom's biscuits, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Next level, she knew she was cooking on for us.
Next put a little love in there. Dude was cooked
with love tasted.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
But there's other songs too, I mean there's there's a
ton of them that were cut that didn't come out
that I felt like should have. You know, a lot
of course there goes my life. It would be always
be special.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Try that in the small town is probably the biggest,
and the I'm probably the most because of what it did.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Let's talk about it. The odds.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
It should have never happened. And as much as they
tried to kill it, they couldn't kill it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Give us a small give us the small snippet of that.
Give our listeners a small stip.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Yeah, well, funny enough. I had my golf clothes on
that Tuesday morning, and Caleb, me and me and Lovelace
right every Tuesday. So not Patty Lovelace, No, not Kelly Loveless.
It's Kelly Lovelace like Linda.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
But anyway, he calls, we talked before.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
You know, we zoom or whatever, or he comes over
and plays if it's pretty and it's worn, we're playing golf,
or I want to play golf. So I got my
golf clothes on and I'm upstairs. I said, dude, I said,
it's a beautiful day for golf. We tell this story
all the time. He goes, I don't think we're playing
golf today. And I go, what are you talking about?
And I said, what do you got? He was walking
that morning watching the news and he was watching these

(01:05:26):
these he saw this woman gets sucker punched on the
sidewalk in New York City just for no reason. Somebody
just came up just well way later, and he and
they were showing that what was going on in New
York City at the time, and these people were coming
up and hitting people just for no reason. You remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I remember that. That wasn't it just full on just.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yes, yeah, just knocking them out. And CALO's watching this
while he's walking. He's getting pissed and he's like and
he said, it just hit him. He's like, try it
in a small sound, you know, and he goes, oh.
So he calls me. He says, we ain't playing golf today,
and he told me the title. I go, God's so

(01:06:07):
freaking awesome. I said, nobody's gonna cut it. We're not
gonna make any money off of that, I said, But
I did go. I did say, we have to write it. Yeah,
we have to write it. Whether it gets cut or not,
we have to. And then I said, we got through
about a verse and about a half of course, and

(01:06:27):
we had the melody pretty much going, and I said,
I said, we need to call Tully and Kurt. I said,
because there's only one person on the planet that would
even say this. He may put it on a record,
but he you know, it ain't gonna be put out.
So we got with Tullian Kirk and we finished it.
We went to their studio and we put the music down,

(01:06:50):
put the track of going saying it, did the demo,
and they mixed it and just like my cousin mixed
it Patrick and we sent it to al Dean. They
did and it took about as much time for him
to listen to a song. To get back with him.
I said, I'm cutting this. This is my country boy
new Comfortabale can't survive. And I was like what. And

(01:07:11):
then me and Kaylo had a thousand dollars bet that
he wouldn't put it on the radio. I said, he's
gonna put it out. I said, no, he's not gonna
stop there. He's not gonna cut that song and not
put it out. Yeah, and Kyle said he ain't gonna
do it. I'll bet you a thousand dollars he puts.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
It out, would you buy that thousand dollars?

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
I put it back into a tattoo fund that we're
still trying to get. We're still trying to get Kirt
to get a tattoo. I don't have any tattoos, but
we all we all said, we said if we went
number one, we'd all get tattooed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah, we've said that a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
It ain't gonna happen, not gonna happen. Yeah, But anyway,
and then the video came out. Yeah, all hell broke loose.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
And sparked it. Yeah, I mean really went nuts out
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
Yeah. And Whoopy Goldberg and all them on the viewer
calling us and the al Dean and the songwriters must
be a bunch of racists. And I like, where where
are you getting it from? If anything, where do they
get that from? Cause it fits there the absolutely we
know why why they're doing it. Everybody knows why they're
doing They can't stand Jason anyway because he's a Trump supporter.
And which is another funny thing, because there's some more

(01:08:10):
artists that are starting to come out from underneath their rocks.
They're starting to be more vocal about you know, we
didn't start this political thing. Who you supporting, who you don't,
and just shut up and sing. We didn't start all
that they did. Now it's time for you know, you
see Carrie Underwood, she's going to sing, you know, God
Bless America the anthem. She's not doing the anthem.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
We already catch.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
I know it. That's what I was saying. What is
she singing? I just saw she was singing on it,
America the Beautiful. Yeah, she's doing America the Beauty and catching.
I love it. I freaking love it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
And she knew she was, she was she had to do,
she knew.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
And I think it's awesome and it's good to see
everybody starting, not Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Yeah, and just just yeah exactly, just at least being
honest about how you feel, how yes, and not letting
that determine what how you live your life.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
It's ridiculous that we live in a country that can't
even have a conversation if you're on two sides of
the fence, like, yeah, we should be able to talk
about it, and we should be able to say how
we were, just like everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
But it's also beautiful to live in the country that
something like that happens. Try that small town comes out,
video comes out, and they think it's a tea ball
sitting on a tee that they're about to hit a
home run with it to cancel Jason al Dean, Yeah,
get this song, make this song a and then.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
What does that song did?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Dude? What is the supporters of that song? What is
the message of that song? Turn around and do to that.
You can't put that fire out now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Well, you know when people try to create their own truth,
it comes from the left and they try to create
their own narrative and their own truth. But nobody's buying
it anymore. Right, You know, that song is what it is.
It's the truth, and it's it doesn't it's not against
anybody or any race or anything else. It just is
what it is. You're not gonna come down here and
screw around. I don't care what color you are. You're

(01:10:01):
not gonna come down here and burn a flag in
our town square. It's not going to happen. You're not
going to take our guns. We love the Turkey hunt.
We love to do things. Got a gun that my
granddad gave me. Everybody knows that's a shotgun. The granddad
didn't give you an a R ten talking about got
a gun. It doesn't matter what kind of gun it is.

(01:10:24):
I'm gonna carry it regardless. It doesn't matter. And you're
not going to infringe on that. You're not going to
change that. I couldn't wait to write the song, and
I'm so proud of that song and what it did
and what it said, and that it that it did
not get defeated and it did not get to get canceled.
I'm so proud of that. That's awesome and so thankful
for Jason al Dean. And you know he's taking a

(01:10:46):
hard stance for sure. His cahoni's to put it out
and take it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
What do you hope What do you hope people get
from listening to to y'all's podcast. What's the message you're
sending all the pissed people off?

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Thress We just want to piss everybody off. No, No,
it's good. We've had a really cool we didn't really
know what was going to happen. We've had some cool
guests on. We just had Brett Farvon, you know, we
just did him and got to hear his story and
that was coolest crack and we've had cash patail on
and we've had and knowing these people are gonna do
what they're gonna do now, it's coolest crap, you know.

(01:11:22):
And we've had some rockers on there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
We've had some punk rockers on there. The drummer they
got fired from the Offspring, you know, for not getting vaccinated. Yeah,
that's so punk rock, isn't it? What? Anyway? But we've
had some really cool outings. Been on a few times. Brittany,
his wife's been on. Those were fun And we don't

(01:11:47):
know what's gonna happen. We'll talk sports, we'll talk politics,
we'll talk music, we'll talk hunting. Not much hunting, but
it depends on the guest because the other three guys
don't hunt. Trying to get them. I'm trying to get
him there. We want to get him there. We'll take
them turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
That's awesome, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Are we graver?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I think we're about a graver?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Okay, do the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
Song or no? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Is the song of this?

Speaker 8 (01:12:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
There's not this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Man? Can we can we just can?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Can?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Can the gravorite just be just one of it? Just
maybe a few of his hits.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Yeah, I can shut up. I'm almost.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Is that too high? What song is that? Not? Train?

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Got not and a man? Stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Get it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Do you care to get?

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Care to get it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I can go wherever? Where do you want to go?

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
Is that a standard?

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
That would be standard?

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:12:48):
Out?

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Let me ship?

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Well you're not have swam with me here here, I
don't want to do anyth I'm not gonna I'm gonna
hanad it back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
I'm not gonna play.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
It's tight, it's tight.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
We're plugged in. Hang on, I didn't know where were
pluged in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
We get it out of it too, We do whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
He is too high?

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Are you shipping me?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
For him? What are you talking about? I've been thinking about.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
You, old a babe?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
You remember the words?

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
I don't. I don't. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Let's see, I've been.

Speaker 9 (01:13:33):
Thinking about you, old a bay and waiting on that
Sunda goold?

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
What you say?

Speaker 8 (01:13:45):
Up with you?

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Of after war? You sling over? We said part now
it today it's a five. Don't know where we s
about to the outskirts of town.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
Gotta blinging in? A fifth came over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
It's two verses.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Right, yeah, a little something to knock on off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
There you can go.

Speaker 9 (01:14:07):
Man, you're supposed to get a little cool too. Now
looks like I'm gonna have to hold you time.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
I guess he might about a mile on four Meal road.

Speaker 10 (01:14:24):
That's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:14:24):
A little body in those park the truck and will
tell you gonna running.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Hurry up, girl, like here and come in. Gottam moone
in a million stars.

Speaker 9 (01:14:36):
The sound of stealing a watch car a thought he
dropping me insane? Come on, baby, the school doesn't do
the nice.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
For niney traine. You almost got it, so sorry, make stakes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Which Let's trade place?

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Yes, trade places.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
It's gonna be more fun.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Got a course, it does only if you'll see harmony
with me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Oh I will. Let's get a three part Let's get
a let's get a three part nice, little little three
part nice on that course. I want to see her.
I was missing it all. Here we go, So I
have the verses.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
You were raised on a nice farm farm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Ain't never heard rooster crow, never worn bell foot by river.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Filled mud up between your twos.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
You never rolled in the hay, never phone in and
phone well, climb my phone in here, girl, let me
show you how country a few minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
Let your hand down, hand now, get you some of
this laid all that. Kick your shoes off, kick him off,
get you somebody else know now fast I'll take up
and down these howlers and his Let me show you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Country, all right, give him some fast counting freedom. Just go, dude,
just go, just go for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Us now he's us behind.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Yeah, well he's who was at this saying that was
on here?

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I s always actually cook she's a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
That was her graver.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
She killed it, steverybody setting up me. Come on now, wondering.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
I know you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
The baby don't need it?

Speaker 7 (01:16:57):
Where's his?

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
See?

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
And I see when it's gone?

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
Come on, well I see you a strap funnel it
a overino baby.

Speaker 10 (01:17:11):
Blue head on my shoulder. Wait, baby on the right.
There it is, see shirt hanging on the door with
the French.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
That river was cold. We gave out a chair. You
don't look antail the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Fast course of freedom.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Let suns by first some feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
He takes a half step down.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
That's right, you need to go up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
No, I'll keep it there. He's in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
It's probably perfect, probably better. I was thinking of you
bring it out.

Speaker 11 (01:18:00):
That Smila, shake your head if you don't believe me,
can I just see it? Runney and lady jack.

Speaker 6 (01:18:13):
Me bye on that battle road.

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
Look at me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
I don't know when to pick you up.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
You're standing on the floor. Just lie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Just like that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:34):
I see a stamp, final wind and old red over
baby Blue. Your head on my shoulder. Way, baby, don't
know right there it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:50):
Is, says Shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
I am the down breach.

Speaker 7 (01:18:55):
That river was cold, but we gave out of chair.
You don't look at tail over fastcals pray, don't.

Speaker 8 (01:19:08):
Let sunstrill make first time fam.

Speaker 10 (01:19:19):
Well, I'm gonna take you.

Speaker 7 (01:19:23):
Up.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
So far off for me.

Speaker 10 (01:19:28):
I got few chickets in my pocket. Morse, we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
Miss a pea. He waited so long.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Wait, it's so long waiting, so long, waited, so long,
waiting so long.

Speaker 10 (01:19:54):
I've got two tickets to bed thence won't you beck you' tonight?
God tickets to Paradise, pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
And God Country. I don't know where that section we've
ever done.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Dude, you are a monster, bro monster. That was fund
Thanks for coming on, Thanks for hanging out with.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Turkey.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
I'm ready, we're going to I'm going to I'm also
gonna just gonna make a birdie with you a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Yeah, when you play some golf to that was I'm buzzing.
I'm buzz I think I'm a shock.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
That's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Neil. Thank you, Thank y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
We love you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Thanks hanging out guys.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Thanks you for your stance, dude on on humanity and
on on the you know where we're at as far
as a nation is a country as a people for truth,
man for truth, for your songs and honestly that knowing,
and it really does.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
It doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
It doesn't come out as clickbait. It doesn't come out
as check our stuff out, but you should check try
try that in a small town podcast out. But I'm
saying it doesn't come across as content. It comes across
as a genuine love for humanity and and and the
way things are and and and genuinely just getting along

(01:21:30):
with your fellow American.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
We appreciate for the good man.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
We appreciate that, and we wanted to do I mean,
I know you guys are the same way. It's like
we want to use our platforms to you know, we
do like fundraisers up in Illinois, the small towns up there,
we'll do for the f f A, you know, some
of the vets, and that's what the big picture is
for us. That's what we want to do. And I
know you guys are the same way. Any anytime we

(01:21:55):
can do that and help out and give back, go play,
go do some show of money.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Yeah, well, we're happy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
We're happy to be your brother podcast in arms and
we we we we we view you guys as brothers
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Yes we do too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Thanks for having hanging out in God's country with us.
We'll check you'll next time. See you Peace.

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