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May 20, 2025 80 mins

This week Reid and Dan host multi-platinum artist and outdoorsman, Cody Jinks, out in God's Country. Cody shares his love for fishing with the guys, where it came from, and what he's doing to pass this along to his kids. He breaks down the process of his redneck live well he built for his jon boat and gives a tutorial on how listeners can do the same for less than $200. They discuss life on the road, balancing family, and how he's built the monstrous career that he has, from the ground up. Cody shares insight into his next record that comes out in July and ends with a gravorite that will make you wanna call your mama.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You with you boys?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Then and Read from the God's Country podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
What's Up You're off in God's Country with You Boys?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Dan and Read isbel also known as the Brothers Hunt,
where we take a weekly drive in their section of
country music and the great outdoors, those things that go
together like a Marlborough red and a lip of skull.
Or have you some cowboys? Brought to you by me teacher?

(00:42):
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(01:02):
record deal or something. We can't shoot me COSI co
spints man the show now by.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Man getting a lot of praise for these Caymans.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
The Caymans still got the Lizzies. I was gonna wear
the other ones today, but they're kind of the same shirt,
our same color as my shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Can't be too matchy, so don't go MATCHI matchy on them.
Cody Jinks awesome Beard, awesome songs.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Fish Guy, big fish guy, I mean I'm not literally
a big fish guy loves ketchpig fish.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm not. I don't. It took me a minute to
understand the tank conversation that he was having. Yeah, do
you know more about that than I do.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, he's calling it's almost like a pawd, like a
like a stock tank pond that he that he's got.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
He's got a big small pant pond, feeder ponds.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Pretty much got and he he said one of them
was an acre one of about three acres, which is
I mean, in most cases those are ponds that it's
not like a literal tank sitting in his backyard. So
he's got what he says, bluegill and crappie in one
and then his big bass in the other and he
feeds his big bass and that's what we were talking about,
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And then they all kind of go to the thirty acre,
I think.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I think as he fishes out the thirty acre, he'll
just kind of stock that the big the big lake
with his But I mean that's some some real like, Yeah,
he gets into fish.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's fun to listen to.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's fun talking to a guy that like knows the
lingo too, that's talking about spinner baits and bait casters
and no, he knew.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
The guys true fisherman ain't no doubt. He's also a
true artist that is traveling all over the place playing
his music, and he's really good.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
He's got his dropping another album seven to twenty five.
In my Blood tour starts five to twenty nine. Cowboys
playing Franklin Theater. I think we're gonna try to go,
and think he's gonna put us on the list for
that one. That'll be sharp. I've never been to that place,
never been. I've never been to that the first bank.
I've never seen the wait, is it the Franklin Theater
or the first bank? It's the first bank, Amphitheater, the

(03:07):
big rock quarry thing, oh over there by sixty forty Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right, all we got that place is jam up. Yeah,
I've never been.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
It is so nice. But just man, what an awesome hang.
I love having people on here that we don't know.
He opened up for Luke last year on that stadium
tour and watched some of his stuff and watched them
of his show back then. Just a real just a
real dude, real artist things about his life and and
man has a huge following.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Huge and it's from the ground floor up, which is uh,
extremely sustainable for years to come. That's right.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Hey, thanks for listening to us, thanks for watching us
on YouTube, but thanks for following along. Hey, keep the
five stars ratings coming, even if you got a slacking
on that, even if you're if you're not gonna leave
us a roast. It's it's super simple to hit the
five star and give us a rating. It really helps.
It helps us feed our babies. It helps us keep
the lights on and the place and keep the lights

(04:01):
on the Tacoba sign that they sponsor us in the
God's Country time behind us.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It will help the show go a long way.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
This is a funny roast. I just went down it
real quick. I smell it. The title of it. Oh oh,
is dinner done?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
We just left over plate of roast out of the microphce.
You know what, man, I gotta say this about now.
Guy Ray hit me with it one more time, ding he.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Said the other day. He's like, hey, man, uh, you
kind of got got Ray.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Come out here, Come on out here, man, here, come
on out, Ray, springing out, springing spring. I don't know
if you've ever seen you guys, come here, come here.
Just look at the camera, which on every one you're
supposed to New guy Rayu got Ray said the other day.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
He said, uh a, man. He's like, I'm sorry if
I made you mad with those sounds. And I was like,
what he's like. He was like, I could just tell
like you're kind of tired of the old sounds. I
was like, oh, dude, I'm so sorry. Man, I said, dude,
I'm a total jerk. It was a It was a bit.
I was just kidding. The sounds are fine. He was like,
I'll find some new sounds.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
So that was one of the new sounds, wasn't it right.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm sorry, I didn't mean it.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I love you from the bottom of my heart, from
the bottom of my takovis.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's one of the new sounds here. Okay, the roast
is done, all right. The title of this roast, this
baritone can be hard from a G corner. Yeah, he
really goes in on me on this one. I don't
know what it is. You're easy to go in, man.
Sometimes you shouldn't chime in with harmonies. Let the guests

(05:51):
do their thing. Reads all right on tenor, but dag
on Dan struggles to find that baritone. God forbid you
stuck it under the lead. Anyway, This is my favorite podcast,
and I found a lot of artists that I love
because of y'all. Baritone could be hard. I feel like
I'm a pure baritone.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Where else would you stackle baritone under the lead. I mean,
you're gonna stack a baritone on top.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Don't come at me with things I know more about
than you hit me with a baritone. It took you
a minute to find that. Well, man, hear it? Try again? Well, okay,
wrap it up. Hey, thanks, We love y'all. Five stars,
keep them coming, and we're gonna quit pop pop. It's

(06:36):
easy review it. I know right now you're thinking, I've
listened to this and I haven't left a review. Go
right now, man, Just do it, bron just do it, dude,
Come on, man, come on Manes. Shout out to new
guy Ray for the microwave sound. They love you, Love you.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Cody Jinks, he's he's a boss. Yep, you're gonna love
the podcast. We're cool piece to.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Have a Turkey episode.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Man.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
We got a bass catching multi platinum singer, songwriting dadd
and of two toured with some of the biggest names
and music including our boy LC Luke Coombs, a Texan.
We've got mister Cody Jinx on The God's Country Podcast today.
Best boots that have walked through the door by far,
ain't no doubt start And we've had we've had some

(07:25):
good boots and have good good covids come through the door.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
But those are sharp, thank you. Yeah, we had we
had figured out. I'd finally figured out. I told you guys,
I think they're called piro ruku pierro rucus.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
The fish. Have to look that up.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
And uh, they're really cool. Always get they're not old.
They just look like that.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I don't know if I've ever seen a pair
of fish boots same what ore the fish?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
But what are the fishes out there that they make?
They do shark boots?

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I thought, yeah they do. No, I don't think they
do shark anymore. I think they'd.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Be I think leicky, greasy.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
I think it would be like it.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
We want need to like get a fact check checker
because because maybe because elephant, I think you can't do anymore.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
And maybe shark.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't know. I feel like there were shark.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
But at one time, I think you're right. He got
me know, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Hey, wait, let's go back to the Watch conversation. This
is this Wait, what are you gonna say?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I was actually gonna say, I didn't say this before
we turned.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
The the red light came on. The red light came on.
You said, your boy, Elsie. Uh, he he's the reason
I became a Watch guy.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was about to say, you can't hang out with
that guy and not become kind of on a way
smaller scale for at.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Least I understanding for it. At first when he started
doing the want when he was watching, I was like,
that's some rich that that's that's above my style. But
then after he explained, I was like, Okay, I'm comment in.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
You want to you want to hear a lovely story
about that guy like I did a I did a
tour with him last year. We did some stadiums and
it was towards the end of the tour and I
came home. Uh, my father in law passed and uh,
I came home and loaded my family on the tour bus,

(09:26):
took him to Houston. We were playing the stadium, the
football Stadium in Houston with Luke. Two days after my
father and I'd got my my, my my wife, my
mother in law. I put him on my bus. I
was like, we got to get.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Out of here.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
You have to take them with you can't leave them.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
At that point, I was like, I gotta go to
work anyway.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
That show two days after, Luke gives for a tour
present for UH for you know, it was just so cool,
got me a really nice rolex and so intends to
do that.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, and it was just the swiftest thing.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
It.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I choked up. It was beautiful.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, he's a sweet guy and that's what we were talking.
And I didn't mean to become a watch guy. And
then I'm wearing a piece that my wife got for
me for our twentieth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
So an emerald piece for the the connoisseur. Yeah, it's
gorgeous that it's.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
An Emerald brightling and I wear it all the time.
And actually we just did cover shot UH for the
new record and it's it's.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
In there, It's on there was you know. I was like, man,
that's a that's.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
A cool thing to do. Yeah, and it's I tell
you where he gets He got me. It was like,
you know, like I was like, well, I'm more interested
in like guitars or maybe square body chevrolets, you know what.
I mean, and he was like, oh, you're gonna You're
gonna put that on your son when he's twenty one
and turns twenty one he's at his wedding day and
I was like, man, good point. He kind of he

(10:57):
kind of got me going with that. And then once
he started talking about the history of it, and he's like, well,
how cool would it be? You know when Bucker boone
is you can look back on all these pictures of
all these things you've done and all these places you've been,
and you were going, hey man, that little watch is
to signify that I was thinking about you the entire
time I was doing that stuff. Happy wedding, president or whatever.

(11:19):
You know it. That's a good sale to the wife
to keep buying them too, for sure. You know, I'm
saying that's going to work once it's over.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
One time.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Everything everything I buys for my kids shotgun that.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
One thing about the watch thing, it's my best buddy
in his band has a very nice watch. So while
they were about to walk on stage, he was like,
hey man, this is can you wear this? I don't
want to wear it at while I'm playing it so
lible to fly off, you know, And I was like,
oh yees, So I just grabbed it, popped it on
my right wrist. Well, I had my watch on my

(11:58):
left wrist, so I'm double watching now, right. So we
watched a couple songs of Luke. We know the guy,
We've seen the show a thousand times. We love him. Well,
let's go eat some crawls. Let's go eat some crawfish.
We'll catch him after the thing right here, So we
slide out. We're heading to eat crawfest at jazz Fest,
and which turned out to be some of the best
crawfish I've ever happened. You ever played jazz Fest New Orleans?

(12:20):
No super cool New Orleans. We had entertained it at
one point.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
There had been in I think an offer. Perhaps it
never panned out, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
But no. Okay, So as I'm walking, as we're walking
to get to grab our crawfish and chocolate ice cream,
we are not the same time. But you know what
I'm saying. If you did the crawfish and chocolate, it's amazing.
As we're walking, this guy passes, you know, because it's
a very tight quarter. So he's slide by me and
I hear him whisper as he goes by me. What

(12:53):
a douche, And I was like, did you hear ray laugh?
Did he laugh in there? And I was like, does
that get a gobble? Well, I don't know, na, that'll
probably pass. So so as he passes me, I'm like, yeah,
I wonder who that guy was talking to. And I
was like, well, he was real close to me. Was

(13:13):
he talking to me?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
And I turned around like to kind of check him
or whatever. And by the time I turned around, he
was already kind of sliding through the crowd, you know,
because it was a giant crowd.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
And I turned back around. I was like, he wasn't
talking to me. I was like, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And then I remembered I had two watches on, and
I was like, yep, he was definitely talking to me.
And I was a douche like if you don't understand the.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And then I was like, wait, no, this is my
my buddies. You can't even and I was like and
I just kept on walking. It's pretty great.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So if you wear two watches and you get caught
a douche, turns out you actually are one the the guy.
We told that story, and somebody told us that one
of the guys on shark tanks or shark tank.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
What's it called shark tanks?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Shark Tank is a huge watch guy, and he wears
two watches because he's like, I have so many that
if I don't wear two of them, I'll never wear.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
M all equal. In the words of our friend Aaron Watson,
he would be the spokesperson for some receive Cody.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
We do a thing we call what you mad At.
It's not like we have a song introing it or anything.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
What you mad at? Just tell us what it is.
What you're mad at? Is it you in the Lost
Kids mind? Be your boss man, well your neighbor's cat.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Just tell us what mad.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
That song is called watch mad At? How long we
got What's you mad at?

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Cody? Here?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
You want us to go, Yeah, we can go. You know,
I'm gonna or be glad at something, whatever you want
to do.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I am all of the above. I have things that
I'm that i I'm mad at. I have things that
I'm glad about. I am I'm probably at this point
I am more.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Glad than mad because.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Typically at this point during a record making process, we
would be like, you know, like a month or two
behind we're ahead of schedule nice, which never happens ever.
I mean like everything's been on time or early, including
vinyl pressings.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
So.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
We just approve those. We just got artwork. Like everything
is moving along with the most times I would be
irritated as.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Hell right now in the in the process, during the process,
you know.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
So I'm I'm, I'm you know what, I'm just gonna
stay with the glad things. I'm gonna stay with the
glad thing. More to be glad about, though, What about you, guys?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Tell me I don't know, I don't really have anything
you guys.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Uh, I'm pretty much. I'm pretty glad. My little girl
turned three yesterday. We spent the Yeah, I've been pretty glad.
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
We spent.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
We spent a few days out of Dollywood, Dolly and bro.
Let me tell you cheat code at Dollywood. I've never been.
I went a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
But if you've taking your kids, this is your first
time taking your kids.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
All.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, well I went when I was like in high
school or something. But yeah, if you if you planted
around a little bit of rain, cheat code there.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
We literally didn't wait in the line at all.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Some of the some of the rides we had them
like most of the part we had to ourselves. You
just pun showed them and bro, you just walked around
wherever you went, wanted to go, and whatever you wanted
to ride.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
And we had a ball.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Uh, my little girl turned three. There were all these
like kid rides. My little two year old, he's almost two.
He was shorter than the minimum required high if we
just we just kind of packed him around and told her.
But it was his birthday and everybody let him ride
rides and.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Really even like unsafely what's the word. There's probably a
couple that were unsafe. But he had a ball, you
know what I'm saying. It's kind of locked him down,
that is what he wrote. He rode the river raft
thing where you're like going down the thing the water's
flying in on you.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
And I videoed it and he's just kept a little
strap across him and he's tiny sitting there.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
We had a ball.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
It's I think, I think, in my opinion, like the
two to five range is I think that was my favorite.
Really really yeah, it's it's they're little enough to still
want to like come crawling your lap and snuggle and
all that.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, they're they're big enough to.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Be like tell you what they want, yeah, like my
butt itches, yeah, pizza, yeah, you know, yeah, I guess
that could be mine what you're mad at.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
And but because I'm also glad about it at the
same time, as.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Like, my three year old is a boy and he's obsessed.
He's obsessed with.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Me right now, and that's that's really great. There's that,
the great outweighs the negative of that. But like, I mean,
he just bust in the bathroom talking about let me
hold you, daddy, and I'm like, well, hob them a laugh,
maybe give me Can I have three minutes to wrap
this up? You know? No, you cannot and you will not.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
You will not, And that never goes away and never no,
and that never goes away, and in fact, it it
gets worse because that's the only time they bother you,
because the rest of the time they're not to be
bothered because it's like, you know, my kids are fifteen

(18:40):
and thirteen, and it's like, hey, you guys want to
you guys want to go fishing.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, we're good. You know.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's like now it's like, so you charge charge the
batteries up on whenever you cannot get away from them,
because then it's just they start making fun of you alone. Yeah,
and it's awesome. It's a different kind of awesome. When
they get bigger, it's it's a lot. It's a lot

(19:08):
of fun because then you're cracking jokes with him.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah. And and you know.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I would imagine you guys have intelligent children. I guess
enough enough. I mean, by basing this off of the
twenty minutes of you guys, I'm sure you guys are
doing okay. Yeah, dude, and we all have it figured
out as parents.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh yeah, completely.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
But it's it's so much fun now because uh, like
my son, he's he was pitching the other day and
he's like, hey, dad, we you catch me in the
front yard. You know, he goes, I think I'm gonna
pitch a baseball game.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
He's cool. He's in the fourteen under league, and I was.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Like, yeah, man, and he's getting almost fast enough to
where it's like, I don't I'm not feeling real comfortable
about this anymore.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, and buy some catcher gear.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
He threw He threw me about twenty twenty five baseballs
and I was just using my regular glove. And I
and I just had to stop. I said, bro, I
gotta get on Amazon or whatever catches and a face
mask and it's going to come.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, that's awesome. So it's it's it's a lot of fun. Man,
whatever stage that they're in, it's a blessing.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I saw you were doing some fishing. I saw on
your Instagram. Man, I've been getting as much in as
I can.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
I love to fish. It is my it's my favorite thing.
I love to I don't really hunt a lot. If
I do hunt, it's duck. But I sneak away and
fish as much as I can. We My wife and
I have a lot of a lot of stock tanks
on our land, and then we have another piece of

(20:53):
land up the road with a thirty acre lake on it,
and so spend a lot of time out there on that.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
And is that Texas?

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Where is that? Oh?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, Texas where I live at home. You know, I'm
still within about an hour and a half of Fort
Worth where I grew up. My wife and I grew
up in Fort Worth. Okay, so yeah, but as much
time on the water as I can, and and uh,
I don't if I don't care if it's a you know,
a john boat or a tracker, a ranger, or a

(21:23):
pontoon boater. My dad, you know, my dad's on a
pontoon boat. Crappie fish is a lot more. I still
do more bass fishing.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, that's That's exactly how me and my dad are. Yeah.
Do you know he fished yesterday? Yeah? Man, I'm calling
call of player. Dude. Yeah. Bro, he's wearing them out
to like everything.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
He's he's on a coppee kind of quit biting, but
bluegill have turned on and and they're starting to get
on the bed and he loves that.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I mean, I think he's cleaned. He's got He does
this thing.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Our dad's a Baptist preacher, so he preaches a small church,
uh in the in the little town uh that Dan lives,
called Santa Fe Baptist Church, And they have a thing
called Man Church and they do fish fries and stuff
like that. So where I live, there's a there's a
twenty acre lake behind my spot, and he son, he
goes out there and wears the man. He's cleaned. I
think he's cleaned one hundred or almost two hundred fish

(22:11):
in the last week. A bunch of crappie and stuff.
He was like, but I can't help but catch bass,
either bass or bass or smashing right now, too.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Little ones yeye. I tell him to take out.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
We take out everything under fourteen inches, if it's a
pound under fourteen inches.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, we try to let everything bigger grow keep it
healthy that way. Yeah. He caught a stud a couple
of weeks ago. Man, he caught a ten out there.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh, it's the biggest one we've called out that spot.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Wow, it's a big fish. It was a big one. Man.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Somebody told me a long time agoes twenty acre late,
so he said, he said, if you're trying to grow
big fish, big bass, you're trying to get fish over
six seven eight pounds. He said, for every acre, take
out twenty five pounds a small fish.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, a bass.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
So that's what we've been trying to do for the
past few years. And I've lived there for almost four
or four years, going on five years. Yeah, And every
year we've tried to take out as close to three
hundred I think that's three hundred and twenty five pounds
of bass or something like that. We try to do
that every year, and and and I think honestly, I do.
I think it's paying off now because I think we're catching.
We've already caught. He's caught a ten. I caught it

(23:15):
like a seven and a half this year. He caught
four or five over five last week and one one fishing,
Oh my goodness, a six pound crappie test.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
To coming on.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
You know what's beautiful about that picture? That's everybody's boat,
and that's everybody's dad's literally saw my dad in the boat.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
There.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's beautiful. Get it in the tank. It doesn't even
fit in the live oil. It's a monster. It took
a bunch of pictures and turn it loose. No goodness,
I can tell you man, that works.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
The listen.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
That is my hobby. That is what I do. And
whenever we're at home, I can tell you this. Right now,
I have an order for Readier brim to feed my
bass and my my big bas tank, because I make
sure my big bass tank has nothing but the hogs
in it, and I pull all the little bass out
and I either catch them, you know, fry them up,

(24:17):
or move them to another tank.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
And I've got my catfish over here in this tank.
And then the.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Crappie go everywhere because they're like rabbits, So it's it's
a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You're right.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
The I heard the same thing, you know, pulling about
twenty five pounds of.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
If you're trying to grow a grow trophy, get that
bass in a spot.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Whether it's yeah, I pull, I pull all the slot
bass out, and I pull as many crappy as I
can catch out of there too, and then I stuck
them with about three to five hundred readier brim parakreake it.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Some redneck stuff for you.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Where did did that? Who instilled your love of fishing
in my dad? Okay, yeah, so probably the same thing.
I mean, as long as as far back as you
can remember, you were you were catching brim and.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
It was as far back as I can remember. Yeah,
and and and my dad was a tough guy, tough,
tough guy, hard guy, mean as hell. And the boat
was the only time when when I was a kid,
that we were equals.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I identify with that a thousand percent.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
If I could set in a boat for eight hours
with him, I mean I'm talking like dad.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Dad wasn't talking much.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
I was. I was probably running my head.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, you know, but Dad had a Marlboro red hanging
out of his lip and a Copenhagen or I'm sorry,
a skull wintergreen long cut at the same time, double
double tough, you know, with a with a Coors Lot
beer going, and and just that cigarette.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Day he was away from Mama. Dude, he was getting
it in while he could you and.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
That cigarette dangling out of his mouth, and he would
slow roll of Texas rigs lower than anybody I've ever
seen in my life. Like he'd just throw it out
there and just leave it.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
My dad would too, and he'd just sit there and
I'd be back there in my spinner back, you know,
and he just like he'd single.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Signing and going too fast and then he just going weird. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Man, Yeah, the trif sound effects, you know, like immediately
sitting here with you, I can tell immediately that the
guy knows fishing, like you can tell, bro, he built

(26:41):
his own live Well, but what's your face?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I built a couple of them. We can talk about it.
I got you, all right, what's your first indicator when
you either you take somebody fishing or you're talking about fishing,
that they know nothing about fishing? Because I know mine
ours is probably the same. For example, it's gonna cost

(27:05):
some people out here, a buddy of ours. It's gonna
cost some people out this guy's don't know who it is,
all right. He flips the he's using the spinning rock,
set up the want to set up.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Too obvious, flips the bell, throws the throws it out,
flips it over, and that's a very obvious indicator of
somebody didn't.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's a telltale. Or if that's a funny one.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Or if they flip the bell and don't just start
reeling it, they they lock it back and then start reeling.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
It, that one's funny to one, or if.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
And I'll even get more more case specific with with
like I grew up, you know, bass fishing, but in
the South, we didn't say big mouth.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
That's a large mouth. He was bass fishing.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, it's what.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
We're fishing for, big big bask and uh if if
what's called modern day a bait caster?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Ye, Dad called him an open face whenever I was
a kid.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Ab Garcia Garcia five thousand series that dad had had
a red one and a green one and they were matching.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
They were like both like three thousand seas or five
thousand seas or something like that.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
I'll try to get my dad a new one, like
a lose or something. I don't want it. It wants
the old Abbu Garcia Big, the old.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
The ambassador. And uh yeah, that that's that's what it was.
That's what we did.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
And uh it was.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
That's that's how I told When I was a kid,
I was like, oh, you can't cast that.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh okay, you ain't no bass man.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
No, here's I think I think I can get my
mom's uh spinning. I think we got a three O
three over there, my baby sisters. Just how about I
grab a.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Snoop SNOOPI for you? You know, Daddy backlashed again.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
He ain't no hand like that.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
We were talking somebody was talking about fishing the other
day and h we were talking about the same thing too.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
And a buddy of mine, his name is Casey. I say, Casey,
we grew up skipping school going fishing. They give scholarships
for this, by the way, today, fishing.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
In high school.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
We skipped high school to go fishing. But me and
my buddy Casey go and like, how do you know
when you're good? And I said, well, whenever there's nothing bitten.
And your buddy makes a really good cast somewhere that
he's gonna just he knows he's going to cross one's
eyes and then you throw your lure right on top
of his and then giggle.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
That's when you know you're pretty good.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
That's when you know you spend a lot of time
in the boat not catching fish.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Gosh, did we spend a lot of time not catching fishing.
I think I'm more of a catcher than a fisher.
Reads like the go figure it out, and I'm call
me once you get to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, I like to I like to hunt for him.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
I like to go.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I like to go, Yeah, go figure it out.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, it's it's, it's it's it's hard to I don't
get to go figure it out much more because on
a twenty acre late you kind of know what they're doing.
But it ain't a spot where you're gonna go out
there and you're gonna catch a six or eight ten
pounder every time, Like you gotta go. I mean, you
gotta know what they're you gotta know what they're biting
and throw it in the right spot.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Stuff like that. But we grew up on Pickwick, which
is south well more west of here.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's a big bass lake, and I mean part of
the Tennessee River, Yes, a giant and and some days
you go out there and you could get in them,
and then other days you wouldn't catch fish.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's tough fishing, all right. I need to live well, dude,
I do. I still use the little cage. I just
throw it over the side of the boat and drag
it by my trash.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
The cage, the cage, live weal is. I've got a sixteen.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I've got a sixteen fifty six plenty plenty big enough,
but I need a I need a I've been thinking
about it, trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
What tell me, tell me what I need.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
There's there's these little pumps and I forget what they're called.
There like a red, white and blue little pump and
it's not very big. They're about twenty five thirty five
dollars on Amazon. I bought like the one hundred can
size it. Because the trick about making a homemade live
well is is you really don't want to do it
with like a yetti because they're too heavy, right, And

(31:21):
so you want to do it with like the Igloo.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Brand, you know, solid chess, but not the mega heavy
you know, the hundred can Igloo that is your old
school just plastic, you know, but big enough to where
like you want to go catch some cats, you know,
then throw out, throw some drugs out. I jug fish

(31:45):
off time. I love, I said, jug fish. I go.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I said, this is how what I this is how
bad I am. I sick at you.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
I know, I go set jugs out and then I
go bass fish. Yeah, and then I go back and
check my jugs.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
See one roll in. It's just ridiculous. Oh what was
I even talking about talking about?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
What do you?

Speaker 5 (32:09):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
What's your go to joug bait? You know, I hate
stink bait. He's a cut bait guy.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I tell I do I do use cut bait, and
I use cut bait and hot dog winners with red
kool aid and garlic salt.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Hey, a bit of a concoction. Hey, I've heard the
garlic salt. The worst that's gonna happen. It's gonna stain
your fingers. Smell like garlic. You don't smell like.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Thank you? Yeah, you don't smell like gobble?

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, No, that stink bait is the next level for dazed.
That's the worst. And you like it's not it's not
the all like it. It doesn't catch them better than anything.
Here's what's awesome, cut bait catch it just as well.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Let's let's go put some poo on our on our fingers, okay,
and catch the fish and then clean those fish and
then fry those fish up.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
And then when you're enjoying that, and then and then
when you're enjoying.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
That fish, you can still smell it on your fingers.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's the best.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
That's the best argument for not using the state fingers.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
So cut bait doesn't bother me. Man, You can catch
you some pan fish. Cut those suckers up, hot dog
winters with red red fruit punch cool like gotta be
red fruit punch cool.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Not cherry not to be confused with chick please no
chaerr fruit punch and cherry works.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
And then garlic saw you all right?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Noted, we're all lady d go back to the live
well cash, sorry about that that was going to do anyway,
Our listeners know this is this is typical, all right.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Hunter can igloo and then just one of those small
errator pumps it's it's a red, white and blue one.
It's about yeah big, I think I got one. Yeah,
And and.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
How do you power it? Uh?

Speaker 4 (33:58):
It doesn't take a lot of power, but you need
I use a lawn ober battery because I mean lugging
in big old battery like a car battery for running
amencote or something.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
You got to do that.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
But uh, but in terms of just running that aerator,
that little errator run off just a pretty small tractor
battery or a TV battery.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
So when do you bat You plug it in? Yeah,
I plug it in. I run I filled obviously filled
up with.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Water, and then I just start running it when I
start putting fish in and I'll feed ice into it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Um hmm.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
I'll have a separate cooler with just ice, and those
fish will stand there all.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Day, oh, just to keep the temperature. So yeah, yeah,
you'll stay. I mean as long as they got that
you can build. I mean that that cooler is going
to be your big biggest expense out of the lawn
and garden battery.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
But still you're talking one hundred and twenty bucks probably
hundred twenty bucks.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, and then you know you can take it anywhere. Yeah,
I mean, dump the mobile, dump the water out let
the water drain out, and you have a cooler full
of fishing. Still pick up because it's not a yetty.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Right, I'm about to do that. I'm about to do that.
It makes good sense. Maybe tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
And then here here's how my big one works too,
because sometimes I transport lark. This is how nerdy I
am about this stuff. I travel large amounts of fish.
Or when I pick up my red air brim.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
From Pond King and Lindsay, Texas.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
I like those guys. Ye look, guys, they don't give
me nothing, I promise you. They're very expensive.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
They got great stuff though.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
But I took one of those three hundred gallon like
water thing water.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Tubs that you put you know, fork lifts under it.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
To move them, and I rigged me up a big one.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Man, I can I can put you go pick up
your redded brim with basically a kiddie pool and then
attach it to the back trailer and drive them home. Well,
it's not so much a kiddie pool.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
It's like a.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Tank.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
It's a tank.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, And and I put it on my little trailer
and uh pull it, you know, pull it on my
truck and.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You put ice in there to get them. How far
is it to your house? About forty five minutes. Yeah,
they live forty five minutes in a stock tank on
the trailer. I'm shocked by that. DoD they'll live all day.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
I'll just go before I pick them up, and I'll
just I'll buy a few bags of ice and I'll
just throw the ice in the I have the water rady.
I have well water at home. Oh nice, So I
pump it full of my well water and then they'll
they'll put some of their water in it to adjust
the temperature for them, and then they'll have that cool
water in there and well and it makes sense. Yeah,

(36:36):
no problem Manyeah, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I love tank cultivation. How big are your tanks at
home that you keep in your bath?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Not big?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
My biggest is I've got a two acre tank, and
then I've got three one acre tanks, and I work
all of them.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
See, this is foreign to me. I don't know anything
about the tank culture. Honestly. Yeah, it sounds inch. That
sounds fun, though.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
The I'm a hermit and I don't go anywhere when
I'm not on the road. And so.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Essentially, my wife and I years ago bought a playground.
I bought a ranch and and Miavy day driver is
usually a side by side and then we like I
was telling you that thirty acres lake, we got up
the road and and I'm usually on a four wheeler,
a TV or a dirt bike or a.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Something outside john Boat.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
And then.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I've got my dad's old tracker.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
If i want to get out on the big water,
We've got several lakes or and we got great bass
lakes up around. I grew up on on Ray Roberts.
We called it ray Ball when I was a.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Kid, a big fish lake. But yeah, there's we're around
a lot of water.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
And I just I just as soon have a buddy
over and go fishing as I do anything else.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Your kids like it, They get out there with you,
so yes, And though, yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
That's funny because I bought the place that I dreamed
about when I was a kid, and my kids are
just different, you know, my my my ideal. I would
have gone fishing with my dad every day if I
could have, you know, but I got to pull their
tea because they've grown up around it more and interesting.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
You always wonder that interesting. I always wonder about that.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, and it's kind of like, uh, you know, my
wife telling me, you know, it's like you you got
this for you. You know, they're growing up here and
they love it. They loved living they loved living in
the country.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Yeah, but it's not so much.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
We spend a lot of time together and obviously we
got a lot of space out there, and baseball is
a big deal.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
So there's a lot of baseball with my son in
the front yard. I throw to him a lot and
he just hits baseballs and whatever. I'll catch him as
long as I can.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
But it's uh, it's not really uh we're gonna jump
in the side by side and go fishing with dad
much anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Although my daughter did mention.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
To my wife the other day, I hadn't asked her
personally to go fishing walk because she was my fishing buddy,
my oldest and she's she's almost driving now, she's in
driver's head. And so my wife mentioned that and I
was like, hey, baby, you know, you want to go fishing,
and she was like, I can't.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
But it's the thought, it's the asking.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
They just and here's what I know about women. Now,
which is not a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
They just need to be asked, like, it doesn't matter
if they can do it or not. You think that
goes across the board, wives it all.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
That's a that's a that's a generalization that I personally
have have made that may be unfair and unfounded in
the eyes of some people. But I think that it's
the thought and like the nature of like, it's the
thought that matters that you thought to include them in

(40:11):
my in my experience, Yes, because even like with my mom,
I've noticed because my dad's been very helpful in saying, son,
you're going to learn. Yeah, and I'm trying to pay
attention like they've been doing it forty six years.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
And he and I have a baby sister, and she
changed my dad. Boy, I'm telling you, it's not the
same dude that raised me, raised my baby sister.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
I'll tell you that damn much.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
So you know, it's just different creatures man, And I
know we have females in the room.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, let's ask one. How do you feel about that?
Is it just the asking or what do you think
jump asking?

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, I mean I don't think that was I don't
think that.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's what I've learned, that's been
my experience. Yeah, so I try to make sure because
hey man, I'm trying to raise a daughter that looks
for things in a in a mate that she's like,
oh my dad did that, that's important?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Completely agree, right, same way yeah, yeah, respect, Yeah, yeah,
I love yeah, trust right right yeah, yep, yep, yeah,
I get that.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I'm the same way.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Maybe my girls only did you just turn three? And
it terrifies me, you know what I'm saying. It terrifies me.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Oh just wait, they get like she's like, they're just
so pretty, like you just.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Look at your little girl.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
You're just like, oh my gosh, I will kill people for.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
You for yeah, and everything else and anything, I'll kill anything. Yeah,
I mean I feel that. I definitely feel it though. Yes,
or my son, that's the one that's they're the same
age decided. We asked him what he wanted for dinner,
and he said, I want to go to haibachi and
he just calls it bachi because he knows they have
rice and yeah, man, well you know the Mexican place

(41:54):
has rise too, and is I don't know, eighty bucks cheaper.
Maybe you're going to sling it all over the table anyway,
maybe we just go Mexican and instead, you know, he's like, no,
I'm Bachi, Bachi, he knows.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
So we're on the way down there and my five
soon to be six year old little girl goes, I'm
trying to talk them into Mexican right the whole time,
which turns out my wife wanted to Bachi, so that's
why we ended up going there. Uh, but it was
I was trying to talk them into Mexican and and
I said, and Eliza said, well they have. My little
girl said, well, they have at a mammy at Mexican

(42:27):
and I was like, they don't. He was like, Daddy,
they do have at a mammy at Mexican. And I
and this is where I'm too with like my five
year old, assuming that she's right and I'm wrong on things.
And I finally just go, hey, Liza, how how long
have I been alive? She was like forty one years?

(42:48):
I said, you have any Mexican places I've been to
in those forty one years? A ton? And you know
how many of them had ota mammy? Not there one
of them? Baby. She was like, no, this one Mexican
has out of Mammy and we would. I mean, I'm
just like, how do you convince these jokers? You don't not?
At five? No chance? You tell me it doesn't change?

(43:10):
Do they eventually go?

Speaker 4 (43:11):
You know what, well, even even the young girls find
a way to make you know you're wrong.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I don't know what they do.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I don't know why or because like my daughter will
you know, I'll be like, I don't even argue with
her anymore because it's like I'm going to be wrong
for some reason or whatever. And like and then and
Rebecca will be like, we're not ganging up on you, Cody,
you're wrong, and I'm like, okay, okay, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
It really is funny, man, because just they're the little
the little ones are just like the big ones.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
They're just little. Okay, No, we can talk about this forever.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Hey man, you talked about your new record working on it.
It comes out seven twenty five. Yeah, we got a
little sneak peak of it. It's great, man, it's great.
And I know you've talked about this. I know you've
talked about your sobriety. But the first track on that
listing is better than the bottle now that you are sober,
now that you are on the other side of that, Like,

(44:19):
what are some of those things that in your life
that are better than the bottle for you know.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
That was one of the last songs we wrote, and
it became the first song to go on the record.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Everybody kind of fell in love with it instantly.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
I wrote it with an old buddy named Tom McIlvaine
that I've written a lot with over the years. And
everyone of that song's true. He just stopped buying and
and we had both quit drinking essentially, and and and
and you know, in terms of sobriety, you know, it's
like I do not drink.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I haven't drank in a long time.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
I am California sober. So that there's there's some people
that like, dude, you know, you know, I just mad,
you know, make sure everybody you know. And and and
Tom is uh is kind of the same way.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
And we never got in any trouble together after we
had smoked a jay. We got into a lot of
troubles when.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
We were drinking.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
And Uh, And he's one of those guys that that
whenever we met each other twenty years ago, and started
singing together and playing together around Texas and writing songs together.
We were the good time wherever we were at man
and growing and learning and you know, going through uh,

(45:47):
just life and growing up and turning that into a
really cool reflective song. There's a mention of a guy
named Jay Johnson. He was a local singer songwriter from
you know, our neck of the woods back home, and.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Uh, you know he lost his battle with.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
With you know, things of that nature, and and uh
that happened years ago, and not a lot of people
know who Jay is. People back home do you know,
But it's you remember those guys and and just look
at each other and just like, man, thank god we
made it.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
So where does the conviction Because listen to the record
and listen to all your stuff. I'm previous to that,
and there's just a realness to all of it. You know,
it's you're telling these stories and literally things that happened
with your buddies and stuff like that. Like where does
where does that conviction come from to just just write
about your life and and and tell the truth to
to to your fans.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
I didn't realize until maybe like two records ago that
I was just kind of making a whole lot of
different paintings of my life. I've used my I've used
my life and my journey and my story as the canvas.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
There's not I mean, you can look at you can
look at my body of work, which is I.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Don't know how many records it is now or how
many recording it's over one hundred recorded songs, and and
tell where I'm at in life, you know, not in
every song, because some of them are third person, most
of them are first person, the third persons, most of
them are first But it's it's been, it's been a
very very much a journey. And I mentioned that in
the liner notes on the Change the Game record last

(47:22):
year when.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
We dropped it.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
A lot of these people, you know, I meet people
now that walk up drinking a beer like, hey, I've
grown up on your music, Like yeah, I've been doing
this a long time.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
And you know, uh, we raised we raised our kids
on this.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
And me and my daughter, Me and my daughter, you know,
danced to this at our our We danced a Mama's
song at the at the at the wedding, or we
played this or that at dad's funeral. And and so
I make mention of of growing up together. And you know,
I'll be forty five this year, so uh, there's there's

(47:59):
there's a faction of people out there that have been
seeing me play for the past twenty years that we're
very much in the same places in life.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
They started coming to, you know, see us play.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Whenever we were young and better looking and had long
hair and no.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Beards, right, and they just switched.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
And our children were nonexistent or very small, and now
we're show you know, we're older, and it's a it's
a fun it's it's the record's fun for me because
it's I'm not young anymore and I'm not old. So
I just think that there's there's there's a lot of

(48:48):
just I'm on camera, right, and this is there's a
lot of just to me on the record.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
There's a lot of this.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, I know
exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
It thanks to your authenticity though, man, that you've been
you haven't been doing it for so long, but you're
still like I mean, I was driving into town today
and saw your a billboard playing First Bank Amphitheater doing Franklin. Yeah,
and it's like you've still been doing it for so long.
But your fan base is loyal, man, and you're you're
gaining fans continually still and honestly even without the support

(49:26):
of country radio or or Nashville in that sense. I
don't know how you feel about that, but it just
feels like, man, like, what you're doing is authentic and
your your fans and your listeners and people around the
world that are listening to your music are buying into
it just by listening to it.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
We were fortunate just we built a really solid foundation
and we were one of those We were on the
road for ten years before anybody even knew who we were,
and we were out there just running coast to coast, up,
up and down, left and right, just stayed on the
road nine or ten months out of the year for

(50:01):
that was on the road nine or ten months out.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Of the year for thirteen years in a row.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
And that's what we built. We built the foundation. We
will always have a place to play. We will always
have people that will come to see us play.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
Whether or not we're on the radio or not.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
And that's a great feeling. It was a very hard
way to do it. I'm not saying it was the
right way. It was the wrong way, it was our way,
but we knew we knew back then that without the
help of major market radio, that's how we were going
to be.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Able to do it.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
And continue to do it, and continue to do it
and build a really loyal fan base.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
And it's it's.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
It's proven, it's proven to be, it works, it's worked,
it's it's been we've been very four.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I mean, ultimately, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
That's kind of the only way to have true longevity
is to make an authentic product that real humans buy
into at whatever age they are.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
And as long as you keep and continue doing that,
that audience grows with you, thus still coming to shows,
still streaming your music, still supporting you and what you do.
I say that all the time, Like it's tough too,
because we're commercial songwriters, right, so we're aiming at radio
and different artists and all these different things, and so

(51:39):
it's tough though when when an artist has a bit
and they're built on that bit, you know, whether that's
like hot flashy abs or whether that's look how country
I am or whatever the thing is. And I feel
like when you build it on that, there's only so

(52:00):
much consumption until you're you're as a listener, you're just like, Okay,
what else, what else? What else? Where as opposed to
this is where I am in my life and I'm not.
And look, it's an entertainment business. So I'm not saying
everything has to be one hundred percent authentic to you
to the core of what you're going through in your life.
But if you can, if you can figure out how

(52:22):
to like encapsulate that, then you kind of you got
your You got your foundation of those people that are
your age, that understand it, you know, and grow with you. Yeah,
especially through these records.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Man, I mean, these people can tell you that they
they grew up on you and they listen to another
kids are going up on you. I mean like and
that that's the coolest thing to me, is like you
don't have to be anything but you. All you got
to do is just put out just just right from
your heart, right from your experience, your life right now.
And you can put out records as long as you live,
and these people will listen and come to your shows

(52:54):
and and be Cody Jinks fans.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
I think that's where we hold an advantage is because
without having a record label big record label proper. You know,
oftentimes artists can't just put out their work because hey,
we have to wait for the next record cycle. We

(53:17):
have to wait on this song, that song, We have
this held, that held this, and that. Iking it to
what what I'm able to do in the freedom that
I have, is iking it to an artist that, like,
I don't know, just say any any painter that has
a whole lot of really cool paintings. Some of them

(53:39):
are really popular, some of them aren't as popular. Well,
should he have not released those? Absolutely not. That's where
he or she was at that particular time. So I
have I have albums that maybe aren't as One of
my favorite records is probably my least popular record in sales,

(54:02):
just because I thought that the songwriting for my I'm
talking about my thirty record and because to me, I
thought that that was such a great exercise in my
own personal songwriting that it maybe got a little too
heady for a lot of people. Sure, so yeah, you
know it's it's but I needed to put that record out.
So I think that that artists oftentimes aren't able to

(54:27):
just exercise and get that work out, cleanse the palette.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
You needed to put that out, because if you just.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Sit on that song in five years you're not and
you look back, you might think I should have cut
that song then because I had conviction.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I was there then.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
I was there then.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
And don't don't wait. If you if you can, right man,
that's a that's that's a that's a good word right there.
That's a testament to to just putting out what you
feel at the time you feel it. What's your are
Listeners love to hear the process of different artists and
their writing styles and when they write, when they don't write,

(55:05):
if they come to town to write, if they write
by themselves. What's your? Are you always writing?

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Like?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Are you always? Are you? Are you always? Are you
always owned? Or do you set a time?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Okay, next Thursday, I'm gonna I'm gonna lock myself in
a room and come up with a couple ideas.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I try to be stay.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Really undisciplined in all of that. I don't let it
come to you. I try to, but I always try
to have something stewing. I always try to have There's
a couple of guys that we always try to have
at least an idea. We're bouncing back and forth via text.

(55:44):
There's always something cooking, even if I'm even if I
go I go through periods where I don't write for
maybe months, especially if I'm wrapped up in the business
end of things. Every day's a phone call or five.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Or or Heart of Greek, creative and to road going, touring, road,
the administration side of it.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I'm really hands on with every aspect of everything, and
in most most areas, yeah I have I have help,
I have a great team, but yeah, it's it's a lot.
So changing the hats is something I've gotten better at,
but it's still it's still difficult, and I've found that

(56:29):
I have a more difficult time writing at home.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I still write at home a great deal, but there's
so much going on.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Two teenagers and both of them are in fifteen different
activities and it's great and it's like everybody else's house
with busy kids, and it's wonderful that I'm at home
doing stuff. So if i'm if I'm not doing stuff
with the kids, I'm on one of the tanks, fishing
or messing with you know, or on a tractor or something.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
That's a long winded answer.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
No, I identify with that because even riding in town
like the other day, I noticed I was looking at
my phone a whole bunch. But it's it's partly because
of the phone. Because now my dog is tied to
the phone, my wife's tied to the phone, my kids
are tied to the phone, my house is tied. Your
dog's tied to the hole. I mean, I got that
halo collar, man. So like when she gets out of

(57:23):
the out of the your dog like scrolling Instagram. No,
it's when she gets out of the fence and immediately
buzzes me, which pulls me out of whatever I'm in
and goes, oh, my gosh, Iris is halfway down the driveway.
We've got to get something, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Do they have I don't know what what I'm assuming.
I understand what talking about. The halo thing with the
dog is this. Do they have stuff now where the
dog can contact you?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
It contacts you for it. It's like GPS. It's like
like please, it's.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
The dog, Like Bark's twice water, there's a code Morris
code bark.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Right, that's great. I basically set a fence up and
if and it's on, I can look on my phone
it's GPS to like find my friends or anything else.
And if she gets outside that fence, yeah, it sends
her a little shock and lets me know that it
that it did it. It's pretty wild, man.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Okay, well pretty well, I'm I'm, I got you, I
got Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
It's where we're at, man.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
But but my whole point of that is, like, it's this,
it's it's speaking to you having trouble writing at home.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
It's the same thing. It's like the more connected you
are to the things going on, and honestly, it's things
that you care about, you know what I mean, Like
I care about my dog, care about my kids, care
about my wife.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
But that to stay in that lane, well, that's where
your attentions as right. If you're if you're at home
doing what you're supposed to do. If I was sitting
at home writing every day.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, you'd be absent from everything.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
I'll be absent.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
And that's been the whole point the last few years
is to make the time at home count.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
And so.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
I'm in home as much as I can be, and
my wife and children understand that I don't leave unless
I don't leave until I have to and I'm home
as soon as I can.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah, that's where we're at. Yeah, we don't go gallipant
no more. Dude. I did it. I did it.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
I drank it all.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I went to every bar after every I've been in
every bar after every show I played in the whole country,
like five times. Whatever after party and whatever town I'm
in at, whatever bar that we shut down that night.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
And that's where you were Dubuque, Iowa, or.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Springfield, Missouri, or Spokane, Wash I don't know, dude, wherever
we were at, we shut them down.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I did it. And uh, can I ask you what
the conviction was to change?

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Like?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
What? What was it? Your family? Was your kids? Was
was it? Your life? Health?

Speaker 5 (59:46):
All of it?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Man, just everything.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
It just needed to I just needed to change for
every reason, mostly mostly family, mostly personal.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Health, mental health, probably more than anything.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
But I I just had to change a bunch of things.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
And I think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
That that's been beneficial to my marriage and my family
and and learning how to deal with a bunch of
things and going to therapy and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
As opposed to just kind of drinking through them, as.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Opposed to drinking through I drank through them. I did
that for a very long time, and then I quit
doing that and then started the working on mental health
and physical health all at the same time, and being
present at home and having my family actually get used

(01:00:45):
to me being home and then have to get used
to sober me being home, and then it's it's just
everything's uh. I've like I've realized, like I can't ever
get comfortable no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I'm comfortable in home around my people, but everything's a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Practice, like I have to work every day to like
not be a piece of it same you know, gosh right, well,
and like that's what you know I admire about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I have a I have a close group of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Friends that are my age that you know, we're going
through the same things in life, and very fortunate to
have these guys. And it's it's good to see other
guys dealing with waking up every day and also trying
not to be a piece of shit. And I'm just

(01:01:39):
not even talking about being a great person, which we're
all working to be better people.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
It's just, man, I'm just trying not to mess up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
I tell people all the time, I'm just like, dude,
I'm just I'm just hanging on many I'm just I'm
just trying to love neighbor.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
You know that's sound not drink that beer. I've been
on a recent health journey myself, and when people ask me,
they're like, oh, so, what is it like to you
want to feel better? I'm like, no, oh, you want
to look better. And I'm like, no, I just want
to stay alive. I'm just trying to stay a lot

(01:02:23):
of reasons too, That's yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
That's the that's the thing. That's I was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
I was talking about that the other day with somebody.
I do the rowing machine, and uh, you can tell
her right now, I'm not a buff man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
You look good. You lost like fifteen pounds for the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Beer belly whenever. I quick drinking, which is great.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
But my whole thing is cardio now. And so it's
I get up. I do four days a week on
the rowing machine, and my knees hurt. Man, I've had
knee surgeries and so it's low impact.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
I can't go run anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Hurt, So just do my row machine and and you know,
try to not eat all the ice cream sandwiches. Well,
that's what happens when you give up. You quit drinking whiskey.
There's a lot of sugar in there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
You quit drinking beer. There's also a lot of sugar
in there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
You're like, man, I got sweet tooth like a mofa.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
I need, I need well.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
But here's the thing at My wife was like, oh,
ice cream sandwiches are way better than drinking. So I've
got I've got Broms ice cream sandwiches in there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I've got the fat Boy ice cream.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
You ever had a fat boy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I've heard about them. I try to stay.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
You need to get a box.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
And then I've got the the klondyke bar heath ed dish,
the heath Yeah, the Heath Barish. So I've got like
a smorgasborg of of ice cream sandwiches in there, and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
You just roll them out the next morning. Heart big
fish and ice cream sandwiches. That's man. I'll go if
i'm start, If I'm flying jay ice creaming, my go
to is the cone, Dude, the cone with small nutty buddy,
study buddy, that's mine. Don't let me see a king

(01:04:15):
size in that hole, or it's coming home with me. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I passed up the What's the new Tailer last night
and I needed just a little late night snack and
I was watching the playoff basketball, and I passed on
the new tailer and left the new tailler in the
cabinet and got grapes and baby carrots and smoked them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Life.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
That's good life decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Because it's getting old.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
It's easy to get the big spoon and then just
hit the new tail with the big spoon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
New tailespoons, that's what we call them in our house.
Can I get a new tailespoon before I'm going to bed?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Sure have to think?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Yeah, Hey man, I saw calleries, right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I saw if you stack it on top of it
that hall. I don't think it's still countsl What are
you putting it on ice cream? No, it's not done
work that way.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I saw a video of your every boy Larson stepping
on stage, coming up on stage playing the guitar with you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Is uh does he want to follow Daddy? Do you
support that? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Well, I know you support it, But how do you
feel about it?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
I might, I might try to. That's how I feel
about it. Yeah, I do support it. How I feel
about it is different. It's I can tell you this
my kids are older now, and and and not to
hit back on any subjects or whatever. What I worry
about is what most parents worry about is the sex,

(01:05:37):
drugs and rock and roll and all of that's there
and readily available if that's.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
What you choose, if that's what you're choosing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
In his specific case, he understands that nepotism will get
you a record done, but if you're not any good,
you're not going to sell that record and you're not
going to get another one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Come on.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
So I haven't tried to be an ass about it
to him, and and I'm not. And he takes lessons,
and he's in a band and they're really good and
right now it's all rock and punk and metal and
he's well rounded though.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
He loves definitely following that yeah metal day, but it
lived around in that one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
But if Alan Jackson or Alabama's on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
The radio, he's, you know, he's in. He's in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Also, it's he's he's he's real well rounded. He just
wants to play the rock stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
But he understands this business. His mom started his mom
my wife. So we are married, you know, yeah, still
happily married. She started letting him go on the road
on the tour bus with me when he was seven,
and he's thirteen. Yeah, and he's thirteen next month, and

(01:06:46):
he's he's seen it all. But he's thirty. So he's
twelve years old in a band. Yeah, well rocking, dude,
that's rock.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
He's uh, he's in a he's in a program with
a guitar center at our back home Guitar Center, and
they put these bands together.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
That's awesome. So he's they've got four piece band.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
Cool, and right now they're looking for a drummer. We
were not, sorry, Dave, we're not We're not looking for
a drummer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Don't give him a mind you, Dave, just don't give
a drummer.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
We finally did, after a decade, we finally gave. We
finally gave Dave a not doorbell, a cow bell, a microphone.
On the same tour, we've had three rehearsals. We automatically
almost regretted.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Dave immediately regretless decision. It's not gonna work.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
But as for myself, he's, uh, he's seen it. He's
seen all of it. He's seen every bit of it.
He's seen my friends go to rehab. He's seen the
really great spots of it. He's seen the how cool
it is for everybody to come and visit dad whenever
dad's playing let's say Red Rocks, sir, you know, sold

(01:08:09):
out show at Red Rocks and everybody's there, all the
friends are there, all the families there, and monument you know,
stuff like that. But you can't do anything like. They're
at work too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
They've learned that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
My kids have learned, well, we're working just like you are, Dad,
and you know that is a workday for the family.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
So they've they've seen it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
They've seen they've seen the very ugly side of social
media on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
I don't know if you guys know this. I've been
pissing people.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
Off in this town for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
No, I didn't know that. I've tried not to do
it as much anymore. But why do you make them
so mad?

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You definitely you can't, definitely can't tell that one because
you won't do the thing. You won't do the because
you won't fit in them all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Yeah, and they want you to sign so they get
your money that you created by playing gigs. You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
The most beautiful thing about that all that is is
that you you never needed this town and you still
don't and you never will. Man, You got your kicking
off your Hippies and Cowboys tour at the end of
this month, playing the Franklin Theater at the end of
this month on the on the thirtieth new record coming out.
Congrats on it all, man, thanks for coming and hanging

(01:09:27):
out with us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Thank you. I could we could sit here and do this. Man,
You're fine. It's we do this a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Like It's not very often we get somebody on here
that we don't know, and we don't know the story
and we don't so it's it's always fun to pick
people's brains that you know, we've never had conversations with
and you kind of don't know the backdrop to it.
But dude, you're great. You're awesome. Thanks for thanks for
hanging out with us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Absolutely no, I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
Thank you for your time. Glad glad to be here.
A great way to great way to kick off the day.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Yeah, I got to talk about fishing. Yeah no, jot
what about gravite? You want to play something or no,
it's up to you. M I tell you what this is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
This is honestly what I first thought while ago was
I don't even and I don't can edit this out
or whatever. I don't know why this will air, but
we just had Mother's Day and.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
I was gonna play I was gonna play a song
for mother.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Didn't play a song from a left all right, Yeah, man,
my mom listens to every one of these, so I'm
sure she'd love to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Yeah, man, we'll do that and and uh shout out
to the mom was out there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
But I hope every mother had a Mother's Day.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
The world wouldn't spend without y'all. We uh.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
We try to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
A song for mom, which yeah, man, which try to
I like it, try.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
To remember, Uh, got to celebrate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Mom, alright, we should. We should celebout.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Dad more than just Father's Day too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I will tell it's funny thinking do we have time? Yeah,
you want to do and push that, Michael at bit. Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Was talking with this person one time about Mother's Day.
And we have missed Mother's Day. We've been on the
road for Mother's Day. A lot of people have done that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
It's a real, real world, yep.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
And that's that's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
And you always try to celebrate Mother's Day and make
a thing out of it, and certainly, you know, help
the kids get cards and presents and celebrate that and
things of that nature. And I was talking with this
this this female, this woman my age one time, and
we were talking about Mother's Day versus Father's Day, and

(01:11:41):
and it got to us said, here's the thing. The
difference between Mother's Day and father Mother's Day should be celebrated.
It should be highly touted, it should.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Be a big deal. It always should be, it always
will be.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Father's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Probably leave them alone, okay, probably like, hey, what do
you want to do today? Not heye, what do you
want to do today? I was thinking, good tip, What
do you want to do today?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
It's a good tip.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Do you want to go fishing? Do you want to
like you want to take the kids? You want by yourself?
I watched the kids because chances are Dad would rather
probably just chill, smoke a cigarette, throw a dip in
and drink a beer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
On why he's crawbie fishing sounds like a hell of
a day.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
You know, it's very simple, you know, like it's a difference.
And so we get into this conversation and I go, well, wait,
if Mother's day's for the mom, who's the Father's Day for?

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
She's like for the family. I was like, that's fed up.
So Family Day, Family's Day. Father's Day is Family's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Yeah, but I told my wife the other day is
because we did Mother's Day the other day.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
It was the whole family's there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
We had a great time and I was like, man,
for Father's Day, I was like, I think I just want.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
To go to the lake. You guys are welcome to go,
you and the kiddos. I mean, I want to load up,
to load up in the old tracker. If you don't.
If you don't, it's fine, whatever you want to.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
I want to go ahead and throw that out. We'll
make sure she listens to this, all right. So uh yeah,
happy happy belated Mother's Day. Oh yeah, And I got
to sing this with my mom. We played in Arlington
last week, which is pretty close to a hometown show
for me, and Mom was there. She gets up and

(01:13:44):
sings this. It's always a lot of fun, play the
Mama song. I don't have to take these headphones all
I gonna mess me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
You got a half for six per old man, walk
in a half back and eat and I can't and
do it like a dick when I was a kid.
This is all I'm gone and need of course. I
know when you always worry about me drinking my den
inner food. I don't do that anymore. You got me

(01:14:38):
a swing girl at home. She's keeping food on the
table handy night. She keeps me one. So I've got
me this piece of paper I got in my favorite right.
Can I know it's been in a little while and
talking's not in my style.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
I just had to write my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Doing alright, Mama, I'm o cave and when you're leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
My talks with Jesus have held me on my way.
I knew it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
Always easy raising my father's son. And your son will
be all right if the show's keep coming. So we'll
get guitar and me here are still strummling.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
I know you always knew. My army still get way
too far.

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
I'm doing all riding now, Mama, doing all riding now, Mama.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Doing all right now?

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
Mom, I'm doing okay. And you remember the time when

(01:16:04):
I was stuck in early and I didn't have a
job and I didn't have a wait to pay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
The business that i'd racked up. Yeah, you kidding me
from lose in my truck.

Speaker 5 (01:16:18):
I'm a little bitter rob now and I was then
bloody shore.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Nice to see calling.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Me when I'm out there on room. Yeah, you calling
to say, have a good show. M doing alright, Mom,
mahamo cave or you laying now?

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Talks with Jesus. Have heard me all my way?

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
No, it wasn't always easy raising my father's son. And
your son will be all right if the show's keep coming,
So we'll get tar.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
And me here. I was still strumming.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
I w U.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
I always new, I always took good way to fuck.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
But I'm doing all riding now. Mama doing all riding now.
Mama doing all riding now, Mom doing Okay, I'm doing

(01:17:28):
all riding now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Coding out in God's country. Yeah, hay, Mother's Day belated?

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Is that true story about the l A Yeah, I
almost lost your truck?

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Mom made those uh those truck payments for about three
months during the summer of three.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Wow. What kind of truck was it?

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
It was an one Chevy S ten work truck plane Jane,
the little plain white one, no CD player, roll up windows.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Oh my, it's all I owned.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
I had that and by the time I wrote that song,
I had had when I was right the time period
I was writing that song about when I came home
from Los Angeles and three everything I owned was in
the back of that tiny little truck. And that was
a bag of dirty clothes, a Duffel bag of dirty clothes. Uh,

(01:18:36):
a guitar, an amplifier, and a microwaves microwave.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
How did you did it work in the truck or
did you plug it in? Or how did that? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
I had a microwave, but I did not have an
apartment to plug it in an extensive cord. It served.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Actually, after I finally got home and hustled an apartment up,
it served as a TV stand because of the apartment
I got.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
I actually came with a microwave.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Oh so I had two microwaves, double microwave. Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Hey man, thanks for coming on. Thank you all for
helping me set this up. You're great, dude. And uh yeah, man,
all the all the all the props toy for for
what you're doing, what you've done over your your illustrious career.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Listen, man, there's a giant fan base out there that
needs you to continue making music, So keep making it.
Thank you. I will.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
It's it's a journey, it's it's a lot of fun.
I'm having more fun now we don't we're not on
the road quite as much.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
So every show is precious.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Every time we walk out on stage is a blessing
and the fans are the reason it is that way,
and it's so much fun. So yeah, man, we're we're
just so thankful and grateful to be where we're at.
And you know, I figured I keep living like that, man,
we keep moving in a positive direction.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Yeah, appreciate y'all. Thanks for watching.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Go check out Cody Jinks, got a new record coming out,
got some shows coming up, tour starts Hippies and Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Five twenty nine and playing Franklin Theater on the thirtieth.
Go check them out. We wall come see a show too.
I'm trying to come see a show you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Let me know if y'all really want to con then
we will make sure y'all have tickets and your better halbs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Thank you, Yeah, thanks for hanging out God's Country. We'll
see you'all next time. Peace.
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