August 19, 2025 • 58 mins
This week you’re getting a Bro Pod out in God’s Country. Reid and Dan take this episode to answer some fan questions and dive deeper into their songwriting journey. They share some of the vulnerable highs and lows that they’ve experienced, while keeping their faith at the center of their lives. In a few months they are going elk hunting out west, so they share what they’re doing to prep for that, and Reid shares his dream hunt.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
If you notice anything different about today. There's a few
things different about today. First one is there's no guest
boom first first difference. Second difference is my hair flipping
out in the back now. Never happened before, but I
(00:27):
feel pretty cool. Third difference is the AC doesn't work
in this building right now. Nope, So we have a
bunch of box fans around, but we can't use them
because it's too loud. Yep, So we're we're gonna cut
this one pretty pretty quick. It should be interesting to
see how our appearances changed deteriorate over the course of
(00:51):
this podcast, so that'll be fun. Fourth difference is boom
poal bang. I know you noticed that. Look at the
shout out Megan Cartwright and Miles. Yeah, appreciate y'all, Tokvis
sending us these the cart right, Miles was on saddle
(01:11):
Python by far the baddest boots I have now. I
felt like Miles wanted us to have these boots, like
he was searching them out. He was searching for your
boy a ten and a half. Yeah, they didn't have
years and stock did that, but he was. They literally
came in like yesterday. He was very responsive. I haven't
done for a while. I'm already sweating me too. That
(01:32):
what I'm saying. Uh, this is a figured out pod.
We're just uh, we're just we're just grooving and jiving
and uh and we're gonna figure it out. Nothing like
having spotlights on you in the middle of a summer,
in the middle of a room with no ac that's
right with the with in the South, blue jean and
(01:54):
leather boots in the South. Dude, it's just in Tennessee.
It just doesn't get any better than that. Guys. We're
thankful to be here, but you know what we're going.
We're committed. We're committed to your ears and the tones
that grace them, which is our voice, right exactly. Okay,
(02:14):
I didn't know where you're going there. Yeah, I think
you got to stop spelling out all my metaphors. Me. Yeah,
it's like you answer them when they're supposed to just
be a You're not supposed to like literally, metaphors need answered.
I think it's up to interpretation of the listener. It
(02:34):
doesn't hit right if the metaphor doesn't get understood. Quick
wiping your forehead, Well, I got poisonou up there too?
You better, you better quit. We better make it quick
because it's gonna the sweat is gonna drip that poison
oak down into your nose and your eyeballs. And yeah,
that's awesome. Eric Dillon got it real bad in his eyeballs. Yeah,
I couldn't see. He closed his eyes up. Brother, we
(02:56):
wrote with him when that was happening. I feel like
you forget that. We saw that. I forget. Zoom rights, Oh,
zoom rights are. That's a pretty good song too. I
think half of it there were a half a song.
I think I have no clue. I think it's pretty good.
All right, let's get going. We should get We're gonna
answer some questions for you today. It's gonna be a
(03:17):
lot of fun. You guys wrote in some stuff that's
funny and some fan questions. You know what, at least
your fan is. Y'all's fans are aer and these fans
are not. How's wondering how you're gonna wrap that up? Yeah?
He read what's up? Dude? What you mad? Just tell
us funny? It is watch you're mad at playing slow
(03:40):
and long? Itchim kids might be a boss boss man.
He just tells you mad. I think Dad actually is mad.
At his neighbor's cat. Really, he keeps on running the
turkeys off? Is it that? Why one on the dark?
(04:00):
The fairal one? Dude, tell you know what, let's do it. Ray,
I'm hooking up bluetooth. We're gonna call my dad. I
think which one is it? Okay, dude, it don't matter
what kind of bond we're in. If it's if it's
(04:21):
a trailer tires has fallen off the trailer with the
tractor on it and it's scraping the highway in Wayne County, Tennessee.
Or my I'm leaving for four days and my I
don't know know or may not even answer. Doesn't start
a war. We're podcasting and don't have any content to
talk about. We can call our dad. Dude, he's gonna
(04:43):
not answer. I hope he doesn't after that spill and
ain't looking. Oh he's in he's at the hospital. Oh
what what's he doing at the hospital. He's seeing somebody. Oh,
I want to tell him, call me back, Ye, tell
them back. He had a great story about a turkey.
Oh yeah he did. Uh yeah, I don't even want
to say it because it's so anyway. My dad don't
(05:05):
talk about it's kind of in a neighborhoodish area, and
he has residant turkeys and lately they're a cool sports story.
I've been see once again. You're like jumping the talking
about that. I'm not even talking about that. No, stop
talking residant turkeys. Yeah, he's got a hen that has
ten babies that come that that cat runs off. That's
(05:26):
why he's mad at his neighbor's cat. Yes, dude, I'm
not telling the other story, the story, but jumping in
the front of me all the time. Bro, Welcome to
the Bro Pod. Geez we mad. I'm mad. Damn damn,
(05:47):
I'm mad at everything. I'm mad. It's so hot in here, dude,
it happened. Probably doesn't help drinking hot coffee. Hot coffee.
Dad will call us back, tell a cool turkey story.
Hit us with a fan question, Dan, okay, let's stew
it was that? Which one was it? Then t speak
right off the top. Is there a favorite playlist out somewhere?
(06:08):
If not, when are we getting one? Jumps playlist Yesterday,
Lincoln and Stories, What's next? What is it on Spotify
or Apple Spotify? What sound styles and country music do
you all want to see more? Of in the coming years.
Read what sound styles? What sounds slash styles of country music?
(06:33):
Do you all want to see more of in the
next coming years?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What do you want to see more of? Well? I
would love to see the sound and styles of my
own songs. Uh more of? I would love to see
those more of in the coming years. Man, I think
another uh, I think it like an another another Zac
(06:58):
toppy guy is gonna come. I'm gonna break out, you know,
like a like a like a super nineties country player.
There's a few around town that are already gaining traction.
But I mean, I think Zach top Is is the
He's the guy right now. But I feel like a
few more of those will will will come out and
(07:18):
we'll smack will be awesome. I can't instantly say what
I'm I want more of, per se, but I can
I can tell you what I want less of. Honestly,
it's a good question I want less of? I would
I might now Look, it's all well, I know what
I want less of. It's all up to you, right
as a listener, like it depends on what you like
(07:39):
and what you don't like totally personally for me, the
like weird like not really good sonically sounding music like
the basement produced that they're going to like actual press
with uh and and like strange kind of erratic lyric.
(08:00):
I don't that doesn't resonate with me. I like a
good solid streamline productory tune. Yeah, man, I like I
like country music that makes sense. This is not really
like a I guess this is not more like this
stuff I should give you example, like this thing alight
(08:20):
on a window in a far west town, Kansas. There's
a rose and a pair of boots that will belong
to my granddaddy. And then the horse runs through the
yard with a sash arounded stack and belly, run to
the restroom and look for a cigarette. You like that,
(08:41):
You get the granddaddy and the belly in there. That stuff.
I'm just kind of like, waund you know, you know
what I'm saying, Like, I think that's definitely the worst
version of what you're talking about. But yeah, I mean
I just did. I just boo booed that out.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And there's a blow there's a horse running through the
backyard where the saddle no man on it, and a
song with a bonnet.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's actually not bad. That's pretty bad. I don't know.
I just like, uh, I like stuff you can listen
to on the boat. And I'm not saying everything has
to be that way, but that's kind of how I judge, Like,
you know what I like to listen to on the boat. Okay,
who's an artist that that does that that you don't
want to hear anymore? I don't know. Mine is not
(09:30):
sonically mine is. I mean, yeah, there's some few things
that I'm over.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But uh, the the the the shirt off on stage,
like shirt off, like the shirt yeah, the shirtless tattooed
on stage.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like Blink one eighty two, guys that are trying to
make a scene in country. I didn't know. I didn't
know that was the thing. Yeah. I think it's not
about Gavin. No, I'm not Gavin, not Gavin, not Ernest
not like that's yeah, that's you're talking about a guy
that's like, yeah, there's a one guy in particular that
really yeah, and I don't I don't know, and I
think he's brand new, but just his thing is the
(10:16):
shirt off tattooed guy. Yeah. And it's it's like like
it's very it's very it's very raw, like like like
blank one a two and I found glorious and it's
just kind of and it's just kind of like, I
don't know, man, Like when I think about when I
see that stuff and I think about country music at
its core, to me, that's not country music, Like, that's
(10:37):
not that's not what which listen again, it's all you know,
it's all perspective and and and and what you like
and and that kind of thing. And the content of
the music might be, you know, he might be talking
about dirt roads and hunting and and all that stuff.
I'm not real sure, but just like sonically, it doesn't.
I kind of feel embarrassed for the genre when I
(10:59):
see stuff like that. You know, what they say is
that I saw a study on it, or not a study,
but an article on this other day. Is that Dad's comment,
let's get it back to that. We put a pin
in that, Jordan pin in it. What's happening? I can't
hear him, Dad. We make sure it's hold on. Oh,
(11:23):
I'm sorry. Here we go, d What are you doing? Hey?
What's uping? Man? What you doing? I'm fits run to
the hospital check on a patient, and then I'm going
by all the Okay, why didn't you answer. Listen, you're
hold on. You're on the podcast right now, Yeah, you are, listen.
(11:44):
I just said, we've kind of given a little insight
into your backyard turkeys, and I wanted you to tell
us the story of the uh the turkey named Tom Yeah,
Limp and Tom Yeah, Limp and Tom Uh. Tom came
into the yard.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Four years ago and he was very distinguishable as a
turkey to be able to recognize him, because he had
a S shaped beard. You know, as far as telling
the turkey of Parted, I find it impossible unless there's
some distinct mark about him. We had one turkey that
(12:27):
with toothbrush and because of the shape of his beard,
he had a rope that flared out at the bottom,
like I mean like a paint brush.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Paintbrush.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, Well, Graham was sitting me in uh Branda one
days and Graham had seen paint brush, and so he
saw paint brush coming across the yard and he said, hey, Grandy,
there's paint brush.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And I said, look at that.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
About that time, he said, and he's got his buddy
toothbrush with him. Well, Tooth had a long, skinny rope
of a beard and look like a toothbres So. Tom
had an s beard that distinguished him apart for the
whole time he was in.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He came through the yard about three minutes about, got
about three minutes left, just heads up.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Tom started the last few weeks staying in the yard
a lot more.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Uh, he would roost. He would roost in the in
the trees above your yard and everything.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right, he would us roost in the trees in our yard,
probably thirty yards from the back door of the house.
And here on what acre and a half two acres
right there, I have an acre and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, so he's close. He's real close to the house. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I could walk past him and talk with him, and
he would not He'd move away a little, but he
wouldn't run off. Even got old friendly domesticated that I
could see him out feeding, and if I knew there
wasn't much feed on the ground for him, I'd go
get the bucket, come out and start throwing the feet
out and he would away, and then he would walk
back up and feed while I was throwing putting the
(14:04):
feet on the ground. So he became very friendly. He
got very sickly the last few weeks, and like he
was older bird too, I would consider this bird to be.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, And so I thought he looked good.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He started looking like he was going to pull through
and started ever stop feeding well or drinking plenty of water.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But he was looking good.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
And uh, this past Monday, not not previous, but a
week ago, ten days ago, he came. I was home
in the afternoon about two, and I saw him come
through the neighbor's hedge between us, and he came out
and laid down trailer and I saw him dusting himself,
(14:57):
which I've seen him do that many many times, and
I didn't think anything about it. But he pulled himself
under the trailer where the good shade was. Is this midday,
midday he does this two to three o'clock and three
thirty I walked past the trailer to check on him,
and I said, hey, time time to wake up.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And when I got to him, he had uh pairs
had passed. Yeah, he had passed. RP. He died. He
passed away in my backyard. Yeah, but that's his home,
at his home, you know, I mean, And that's a
that's a turkey that I mean. How many videos of
that turkey do we have? Like well, I mean Graham
(15:39):
just turned sixteen, and there's a video of him, probably
three or four years ago. Him and Dean's sitting out
there watching that turkey feed. Pretty yeah, and that turkey's pecked. Well,
he's pecked, paint off your paint, chips off your truck, pecking,
pecking his reflection. And don't cry, Tom, he lived his life. Well, yeah,
(16:00):
he lived a great life, backyard pet life. I mean,
I would say four or five years for a turkey
is that'd be like a ninety year old man. You know,
it's a way better for him waiting for him to
go than getting chased by a turkey or a Bobcat
or Kyle. Right, what did I say, there's another turkey
to get him? I guess yeah. I was going to say.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
The great thing about this is we don't have to
wonder what happened to him or who got him or
I mean he came out, laid down under my my
two wheel trailer, and he that that's where he died.
And so you know, gave him a fitting farewell and uh.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
What you what did you throw him? Defense? Uh? No,
not necessarily not your fence. What was on in Vegas
stage in Vegas Okay, did you cut the spurs off? No, no, beard, Yes,
I kept beard. I kept that's beard. Well, well right
(17:05):
at twelve and a half inches long, man stud salted
or it's gonna it's gonna fall apart. All right, Dad,
thanks for taking up five minutes on our podcast. We
love you man for college. Bye, yeah bye, have a
good day. All right, there's your grandy update on Tom
the Turkey. Pretty interesting. Uh. I did think it was
(17:26):
weird how the bird I hope I go like that
flew back to like the place where he was comfortable
and just kind of was like, I think I'll I
think I'll just slide out here. I think I just
go here. Pretty cool. Yeah, I want to go at home.
What do we put a pin in or out west?
We put a pin in something? Anybody know what we
(17:46):
put a pin in? Shirts off and country music thing?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I already I saw that. Yeah, I saw ah. I
saw a thing where an article and I read I
don't know if it was a billboard or on but
they were saying that the reason that you had defining
music in certain eras like Okay, I'll say it, I'll
say a I'll say a genre, or I'll say a
(18:11):
time period, you tell me what you think of. Okay,
you ready, seventies rock, Debbie Brothers, boom, that was the
sound in the seventies. That was the rock. Okay. So
when you're playing, they're coming back to First Bank, by
the way, So that changed, right, So that music stays
in for ten ish twelve ish years, and then boom
(18:32):
you have She's my cheery eighties moves in, right, and
you got all that stuff, and then nineties comes in
and it's yeah, it's this this is what did it? Literally? Yeah,
I mean that was a major flip in music, right.
Well that was also happening in country too, just different people,
(18:57):
different styles. I think one of the biggest flips I've
ever seen in country music was when uh, maybe you
saw want to Roll My Windle Down? I mean a
whole decade. I mean that flipped country music on its
head right center, broke the broke country era for years,
(19:19):
ten years, ten years actually decade. So what the article
is saying now is that we're it's so wild now
because the mediums that were presenting this music were pushing
it to you, so you had to take what they
gave you. Well, yeah, yeah, it was the only mediums
out there, that's what. Yeah, you listened to radio, you
(19:42):
watch the TV. Yeah, So now that it's so accessible,
you have this hodge podge of all music and not
necessarily like a certain sound that dominates a and if
it's popular enough, it's gonna it's gonna game traction because
there's so many totally and there's so many people that
(20:02):
will buy tickets and they're in every label in town,
which in essence is great for the artists, right, because
you've got guys like great for the artist, I'm not
so sure if it's great for the genre. Yeah, I
could see that, just because it's you know, not necessarily
defines and it's not defined. Yeah, I agree. I think
I think there's I think there's a lot of music
out there that's like, okay, well is that right? I
(20:27):
tell you what I do like though. I do like
the fact that art that creative artists who are doing
it on their own are able to make a living.
Now I'm not saying billions and billions of dollars, but
you've got guys that are putting music out that are
touring and selling out five hundred person clubs and they're
not commercial on the radio or whatever. But they're making
(20:48):
a living and I think that's great for the art
of music. Man. I would almost I would almost advise
these artists to not sign record deals and to not
get in to the monster and the and the machine
that Nashville and the music industry is because because as yeah,
as as uh as diverse as the genre is right now,
(21:10):
and how many or how many kids are popular on whatever? Bro,
these almost said sneaks, these uh, these these people up here, man,
will absolutely like take advantage of you and and and
and and try to try to pull you in just
to make a buck on your on your thing right now, man.
(21:33):
And uh yeah, that's not new. That's always happened right now,
I know, but but it's it's that happens in any business.
It seems like when the second somebody commercializes something, they
take the cool out of it and they want to
make some money on it. And I get it. And
I don't want to hate on all record labels and
all people because you definitely, you know, I'm not hating
on all of them. They are good for something. It's
like different country right what what? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
(21:59):
which is a good for country radio? What George said that,
which in turn is great for songwriters. But it's I
do I do think like from a creative process and
from a you know, these artists trying to make a living,
you know, doing independently to stay independent, because that's I mean,
you build a you build a grassroots fan base that
(22:21):
that will stay with you and go to your shows,
and you control your creative input on it. You control
what you do when you do it. And uh yeah,
I think in essence that's how you build a career. Honestly, Yeah,
I mean, it's by building fans. And then it doesn't
seem as splash in the pants, as just a grab
a grab throwing on the stage. It's also not as
(22:43):
shiny as having a big, fat hit, you know what
I mean, like on whether that be whatever whatever hit
is now, whether that's radio or well, I about to say,
like what, yeah, we can talk about that too, Like
what is I mean? And here's the thing too, we
saw it with We've seen it with a few of
these songs. Like if the song's big enough, and the
song's garnered enough attention and popularity, then radio almost has
(23:05):
no choice but to play it. Cantu. And at that point,
if you're the artist, bro. You I mean you want
one hundred percent of that thing? And Drew Baldridge absolutely,
all right. Next, let me ask you one. Okay, I
saw what I liked a minute ago. Where is it?
(23:33):
It's taken a while? Yep. Oh your dream place to hunt?
Go mm hmm. I mean right now, it's anywhere cold,
But it's because I'm sweating. I would say Alaska for me,
What do you? What? What is it? What is it?
It's probably I don't want to do that. Uh, that's this,
(23:56):
that's CikA Cicca, it's not Cca. What does that do?
Black tail? Columbian black tail things? Columbia and black tail,
they're not a huge antler thing. Go ahead and rip
that off if you want to some driving. It's not
a huge thing on there. You know, we talked about
this all the time, but it feels like I'm getting
(24:17):
more and more about the experience, more than one thousand percent.
And I just see me and you and Dad and
Oak and Boone and Buck on a boat that we
shuttle in and hunt black tailed during the day and
then shuttle back out and have halibut on. I'd love
to make that reality. So sometime, so you know what
(24:37):
I said yesterday in the Codewright, we were talking about
something that like they're like, yeah, man, you know, I
buy all this stuff and then never even like tunnel vision,
and I said, I said, five thousand dollars percent, man like,
and that's what that sounds like. Like we're about the experience,
but like you said, like a thousand percent, but that
sounds like a very expensive trip. Yeah, but it would
(25:01):
be yeah, it would but I mean and kind of yeah,
but we're kind of at the point where, like, you know,
there ain't nothing wrong with with I'm told, if it's
going to give me and and my dad and you
and my and our boys and and our families memories
for the rest of our lives, I don't care. I don't.
I don't. I kind of don't care how much it costs.
(25:21):
And unfortunately we live in a place where no, how
can I say this, You kind of have to pay
for access at this point, and that's the reality of it.
I mean, there are things you can do. I mean,
you can buy your license in Tennessee and go hunt
you know, ali all day long, and that's a lot
of fun. But if you want to get out, it's
(25:43):
going to cost you. There's no way around it. Like,
even if you do it not guided and everything else.
You're buying plane tickets, you're buying gas, you're buying food,
you're buying lodging. You're buying like in order to travel.
And I think this is pretty pretty elementary. It costs money.
It's the same thing with hunting. It's just usually about
twice as much because you go to buy tags and
everything else. Yeah, and gear all that. So yeah, it's expensive.
(26:05):
But I mean, like you said, would you rather have
a ten thousand dollars side site sitting there or a
two week trip with your bros And dad? I mean,
you know some people would say subside, And that's okay.
It just depends on where you're at absolutely in your life.
But that's something I kind of ready to spend my
money on. Here's one for you. I'm on a nelk kick.
(26:26):
By the way, I'm really excited about our tripping in November.
But I think my I think the next big thing
for me is going out there and in back country
bow hunting a big elk somewhere in the middle of them.
I mean it's in the heat of the ruts. It
sounds dreamy. What's the first song you you let's go?
(26:49):
They said, y'all, but I want to do you. What's
the first song you got traction on and made you think?
You know, I think I can do that, you know.
The one I think about is h is uh remember
that show in Nashville. Oh yeah, we had that song
on there and like let that go? Yeah it did
(27:12):
go like that. What was a song called what a
Little Bit? Oh? Yeah song. I can't remember any of it,
but that is. But that was the first time I
was super I was super fresh into town and me
and you and Jonathan wrote that song. But I remember
coming in with that idea and I never, like you
(27:35):
figure out throughout, you know, the writing process what an
actual good idea is. And I feel and I feel like,
you know, I feel like professional songwriters can take anything. Honestly,
I feel I really do feel like that now that
if you threw out an idea, it didn't matter what
it was. It could be a box fan on a
on a hardwood floor. We'd write a good song around that,
Like I mean, as good as we could. Yeah, That's
(27:57):
what I'm saying. But I feel like we can you
can turn, we can turn and something out of nothing
idea wise these days, but there are those ideas that
like you're like, oh man, that's that's pretty good idea.
And I remember that being my first, like one of
the first in a room like that, in a setting
like that, an idea that I threw out that I
was excited about that y'all picked up on. We ended
(28:18):
up writing it and it went to it was on
that show in Nashville. Yeah. And I remember playing like
a little songwriters gig recently, like you know, pretty close
to that show after it happened, and feeling like excited
to play that song in Nashville and being like, man,
I can you know, maybe I can. Maybe there is
a maybe there is an avenue for me good in
(28:40):
this town. I got a twelve plus deer near the house,
I rant, I'm assuming twelve is I've got twelve plus?
Probably I got twelve deer around me, give or take. Oh,
I see, I would send it like a twelve point
Oh is it? No? Twelve plus deer near house? I
ran on cor Cord, it's a buck the buck? I
(29:03):
ran on con Oh, let's not say word. We can't
say sorry. Yeah, I mean he wrote it. Yeah, he
wrote it. But I mean, all right, guy's got a
buck near where he lives, and it's fifty yards from
a police station. Risk it on the opener. Here's what
I had to say about that. If it's a twelve
point buck. If we're talking about here, worth the risk.
(29:26):
What you can't tell somebody to illegally shoot a deer.
I'm not saying illegally shooting. I'm saying I legally shoot
a deer if he's far enough, if he checks the
rags and he's far enough away, if he I mean, yeah,
I see what you're saying. He's fifty yards from a
deer from a police station. But I'm saying, I like
his property stretches out and maybe he could get two
hundred yards from a dwelling or two hundred and fift
(29:48):
yards from whatever the I can't exactly remember the exact
distance from a dwelling. To be legit, Yeah, it's worth
the risk. Now, Look, if you've got twelve plus deer
running around and not of them or studs, I probably
wouldn't risk it, straight up, I wouldn't you. There ain't
no risk. I mean if you're legal, If it's legal,
there's no risks, but like if it's if you're saying,
(30:10):
like you're gonna shoot this deer on the on police property. Yeah,
I don't think he said don't take the risk. Gravorite
restaurant in South Nashville exclude five piece tenders, slash white
monster cat stations. Uh the South? Now, can we go
like as far south as where we're at, or like
South nash Where do you want to go? What's South Nashville? Jordan?
(30:33):
What does that mean? That USUS Franklin, Brentwood, Thomas the Station. Yeah,
I mean a Circa. I'm gonna go Circa in Thomas
the Station. I think Nashville has some good steaks. I think, uh,
the J. W. Marriott, the restaurant on the top of it.
What's that called bourbon steak? That's a good steak. I
(30:54):
like Halls. That's what I think of when I think
of good restaurant. I immediately think of like who has
the best rabbi? Same and uh, what's hoss? It's over
here a rib joint. I mean steak. It's good. Bob's
has got a good steak. But I still think if
I'm not cooking it, I will I will eat the
(31:16):
dog out of a out of a circa coffee rub
ribbi cowboy cowboy cowboy ribba circa. It's a little it's cool.
It's a little like old train station. It's kind of
like out of place and Intomas stationary. Man, that place
is fire, Perry's fire. Don't mix it up with Sperry's.
Why is that not place? Not good? No, it's good.
(31:36):
Oh they have a better prime rib but I think
Perry's is what we're talking is bonkers. What's your okay,
let's let it. Let's do gas station what like if
you were like, we've really talked a lot about gas
station food. But I'm with it, Like the one, the
one gas station, Dodge Dodge store, give me Dodge store,
give me a Dodge store and a twenty dollars bill
and I'm just happy that could be. And you're sitting
(31:59):
on a toilet first the well, maybe the week, but yeah,
it's been a long time. That summertown, that summertown shell
is summertown shell is hard to mess with me. Somebody
somebody talked about that, right, really, yes, somebody was like,
is this a summertown shell? You're talking about summertime? The
one in Waynesboro. The Waynesburg shell, yeah, kind of out
(32:20):
of the way. You're talking about the one where you
go up. Yeah, you know what Dad's favorite part is
about that shell. What he'll be like, hey, man, don't
don't He won't say don't sleep, but he's like, don't
don't forget about the Waynesburg shell. Now they got chocolate gravy,
oh do they? And they'll get like one of those
styrofoam to go play with with, like breakfast biscuits and
(32:41):
sausage eggs and just gas station drippy chocolate gravy all
over it. Fross. If you could have written any three
country songs, what would they be? Oh? Man, I need
some one of mine? Is? It?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Sure feels good?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You just pull up see frost and mug of a
cold on. Will this be your favorite? Helps to be?
I wish I could say it like him, these old
down days the summer. Lord, I'll be glad winter gone
(33:31):
for real today. Too hot to fish, too hot for gone,
to hot to podcast, and too cold home you want
to do of course, then yeah, it's too hot to podcast. Man.
I mean I got I feel, I feel beads dropping
(33:53):
down the back. That's a bead rolling down my elbow
right there. I hope you can see. Man. Yeah, what's
the one of the first words to Uh, that's one.
That's one I wish i'd ridden just because I look, man,
it's never too cold at home in my house, right Like,
I got a great wife, great kids and all that,
But I've been in situations where I'm just like, the
last place I want to go is back to my
(34:15):
dumb girlfriend's apartment. Wait, what I missed that, I'd rather
just go to a bar. And like I in my
life before I was married to Chyenne or even dating Shyanne,
there were time that song is saying, it's too hot
to golf, it's too hot fish, and it's too cold
at home. So the idea is that, yeah, you don't
want to go home, you don't want to go home.
And I have been in that situation with people that
I've been dating, like, oh my gosh, I don't I
(34:36):
don't want to go there. I'd rather just ghost. And
that's like an ode to a bar kind of to
me welcoming you in to just who is that Mark Wills? No,
it's Mark chest Chestnut. Yeah, I almost said Kenny Chestnut.
That's how hot it is? Yeah, pastinating, what's one for you?
(34:59):
Me and Montana or now yours is? Or a tied Yeah,
well isn't that mean? What is that? In your city's
big city? Big city? I'm tired too much work, never
enough place. Now I'm tired of things dirty old side.
(35:30):
I think I'll just walk off my steady job to
do to turn me, send me free, man, I feel
like this right now, somewhere in the middle of mountain.
(35:52):
Give me all I've got coming to me. You can
keep your time. And you're so called so shure sircuy
(36:13):
big city turned me and set me free? Yes? Third? Three?
What's the third one? I was gonna do a She
was standing in the front door when I got home
last night, a good book in a right left hand
(36:33):
and a rolling penny and a right She said, you
come here, boy, for the last time. Lick her on
your breath. If you don't listen to him, I preach
in boy, I'm gonna have to beat you half to
this some eeski to give me just one more least
(36:54):
chance before save me, save it through. That's right, No drives, baby,
It's the best that I can do. We just good
old boys. And making noise. I ain't running around on you.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
It's a gimme just one last chance before we say
well through, gimme it, just one last chance before you
say with through.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
You like how I came in on the singing in
g so you can play it, thanks man, perfect pitch?
That is not what that is? Stitch? What else? What
else is on here?
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Man?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
We'll see jumping around, jumping around? Bro? How awesome is
the West? Mm hmmm. I know we talk about it
a lot, but just singing that, just singing the term
you sent me from Montana just got me. It's just this.
Do you have songs that when you think of that song,
it takes you to a place, like a literal location,
(38:03):
Like for me, a song that takes me to the
West is this? And it I mean that one does
and it doesn't even have I'm sitting on the reason
I'm sitting on the side of that mountain watching the
sun come up or go down. The reason this song
takes me there is not because it's about the West,
but because I was listening to it while I was
in the West. Oh dude, well, yeah, it is about
(38:26):
the West, is it? He wrote this about Paradise vou
gosh it Hello good, I gotta watch look at the words,
Hello beauty, what's your name? Hello? Yeah? I do tell.
I thought I knew it. Hit it out West with
(38:48):
my headphones on no song in the nineteen seventy one.
We're probably messing it all up. That whole that Paradise
Valley record is about. I just found Cools Cliff Town
and the Queen of California is stepping down down. That's
(39:08):
a jam, dude. That feel the feel of that tune
is so what. So that's over there by Egret Montana.
People know that immigrant immigrant and Egret egret or it's
immigrant Ennis. It's over there to nis an immigrant. God,
that place is beautiful, man. Pray, oh, pray, pray my mouth. Yeah,
(39:31):
that place is yeah. Because you don't do this there.
You don't do what I'm doing in this room right now.
That's told. I told Dan Swift and I told my wife.
We were up in we were in Park City the
other day and I was like, I mean, want us
to cose back? Can I see what us cose back
thrown with us? I literally got a towel down, go ahead,
I was, I told. I told my wife and I
(39:51):
told Dan this the other day when we were in Utah.
That like, when I'm at home, I think about the
West all the time, But when I'm in the West,
I don't think about back home. And I love everybody here, man,
I do. I love everybody here. Not everybody, but I
love a lot of people here. But here is hot. Here,
(40:14):
sure is hot, especially when the air con decisions not working.
Acoustic guitar preferences Gibson versus Martin, versus Taylor versus other brands, maybe,
Eastman said says solid SEUs, Gibson and Martin are at
the top for sure. Yeah. I'm not much of a
tailor guy. However, Paul Sykes says, a tailor that sounds awesome.
(40:35):
I have ran across some that I thought, you know
there there. I'm trying to I'm generalizing here big time.
But when it comes to guitars, acoustic guitars and sound,
I think you would go this brief description. You would
go Gibson would be meaty, chunky. I think Martin you
(40:59):
would go by smooth playery. Yeah, I think Taylor, in
my opinion, you would give but bright, bright and look,
there are different sounds for different needs. But me personally,
I don't ever really need a bright guitar. I tend
to lean more towards the a dreadnought than I do
(41:19):
like a full big s J two hundred body. Although
those ones that josh As we played last week were nuts.
Southern Jumpers were incredible. They were nuts guitars. Yeah, I
had to pick. I'm a I'm a humming I'm a
Gibson Humbird. Seems to be the jack of all trades
for me, but you know, for me. But here's here's
why I think you are that is because that was
(41:41):
that was the first really nice guitar you bought with
your money, and you you have a relationship with that guitar,
with the humming Bird. Yeah, I'm not. And that's what
I love about acoustics and and I'm not really like
I've never you know, Dan's the guitar guy and has
been our whole life. Uh And I never was until
like until getting up into town and playing a lot
(42:04):
of them. But but I love that, Like, I absolutely
love that somebody's favorite guitar can be a Jasmine Tacomini
totally because they learn how to play on it. They
that's the only guitar they've ever had, and it doesn't
have to sound amazing, man, Like that's the thing. Like,
you ain't gotta go spend Oh no, you ain't got
to go spend six thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars
(42:25):
a banner on a nineteen forty two banner, you know, Gibson,
or a Southern Jumbo or a fifties D twenty eight. Like,
you don't have to go spend that much money to
have have a good guitar. Man, they're all gonna, they're all.
They all play the same chords. They might sound a
little different, and one might feel more boosty than the
other ones. But if you ain't, if you ain't on
the if you ain't John Mayer on stage, it doesn't
(42:47):
It don't matter, dude, it don't matter. I will see
this though. Sometimes the cheaper ones are actually I completely
agreeretty solid, and I feel like in most cases that
the sentimental aspect of a guitar outweighs the sound way more. Okay,
so let's do this. Let's say I can't imagine John
Mayer playing a Gibson, though, what's the I can't either?
What's the lowest I would Look, you can come to
(43:10):
town with any guitar you want. But if we had
if a guy has, let's just I'll say he has
three hundred and fifty dollars, what does he need to
go buy a Takamini perfect If he has five hundred dollars,
what does he go buy a D eighteen. It's gonna
be tough to find a D eighteen five. That's what
I bought. That's what I bought mine. Well, I was
in college, I was like fifteen years ago. Yeah, I
(43:34):
mean that guitar is not D eighteen. Yeah, it is
the D eighteen. Really, Yeah, I have to revisit him.
Uh okay, yeah, that guitar is not appreciated enough. Okay,
one thousand dollars. You can get a low level Gibson
songwriter for like eleven hundred. Yeah, you can also get
like a you can get like an LG one, you know,
(43:57):
or LG two. Can't really get an LG one, but
like you can LG one. The twos, twos and three
are the ones you can't get. The ones are the
one you can't I thought the one was the more
valued one, two and three. I think that's a great
and that's a different side, right, Like if you want
to if you want a small smile, what's your preference.
You like a small parlor guitar, Go get an LG
one or go get a Go get a Dreadnought Martin.
You know it's fifteen hundred bucks. Now you're getting into
(44:20):
something fifteen hundred is I mean entry level Gibson Martin. Yeah,
like professional? Yeah, you start getting up to two twenty
five hundred and three three grand, thirty five hundred. I
mean I'm gonna tell you go get a J forty five. Yeah,
I mean, go get a brand of J forty five
for three grand. It's a killer. I mean that's I
(44:41):
feel like it's the best acoustic guitar out there. And
people are gonna say no, the D twenty eight is,
but yeah, I think Firs again, it's per personal prep. Yeah,
I think for for one, can't go wrong with any
of those. But you're gonna but you don't don't don't
don't go. You don't go have to grab a K
a K from a yard sale and may billllions of
dollars on it by putting out your weird music. So
(45:02):
just do what you need to do. That's exactly right.
Hey man, let's get personal. Let's get personal. How is
your faith in God influenced you in your career in
personal life? You know, I have a tough time using
getting with the word influenced on on that question for
me personally, because I feel like my faith in God
(45:25):
it is a kind of a thread of who I
literally am, and so it doesn't necessarily influence things. It's
more like it's better not be kind of it. It
uh to me personally, it uh, it's more of a God.
It's more of a God than it is a influential thing.
I mean, honestly, look man, there guys, So what was
(45:48):
the actual question career in personal life for me? Man?
How honest do I get with this? There comes a
point where you have to can control the things that
you can. That's exactly what I was about to say,
and give up on the things and give it to
God the things that you can't. And I still struggle
(46:11):
with that as a personal control freak myself. Yeah, but
you also preach that though like that, like you're all
the time telling me that same thing. And that's that's
one thing I've taken from your your faith in this industry.
Is that is like every time, it's also from my
lack of faith in this industry completely mine too, No, yeah,
(46:31):
mine too. But you know, I mean figured it out.
There's there's me and Dan talk. We talk on all
the time. We talk this morning on the way into
this podcast, on the phone about the podcast for about
five minutes, and then about struggles in life for the
next thirty and and your But but you've always you've
always said that throughout this journey of our music career,
(46:55):
is that like, hey, man, like we don't control any
of it. All we can control is showing up writing
a song and and hoping it's the best song that
we could have written that day. Yeah, and then everything
else it feels. So I know how that feels to
the listener out there, going, oh, it's easy for them
to say, I get I totally. It must be nice.
(47:15):
You know, we always said them. But but when I
look back along, I mean, at this point, I've been
here close to thirteen years, and when I look at it,
maybe even longer than that, I see little titles that
necessarily weren't giant hits, but they got me from A
(47:36):
to B and then from B to C and then
from C to D and then from D to E
and the path of those songs, and and and the reasoning,
the legit, the logical reasoning behind those songs doing what
they did doesn't make sense. Yeah, I know that's kind
of tough to understand. What I'm saying is there are
some songs that I have written, uh that shouldn't have
(47:57):
done as well as they did. Okay, and they did
and they got me to a new place. And then
this song did this, and then this song did this,
and this song did this, and if it is under
your control, theysed all that up. Yeah, every great every
song that you thought was great, would would you would
be pushing it totally? Yeah, and who knows where you
would end up. And so ultimately you have to get
to a point to where you and things I thought
(48:19):
were going to work were absolute, no doubts, whether it
be an artist or whether it be a song with
an artist flopped. Yeah. I mean I had a I
had a song that I thought was just an absolute
hammer with Darius Rutger, his comeback song, and I thought, Bro,
this is it, I'm back, the boys back. It died
in the forties, and it's and and you're left sitting
(48:41):
there going, well, what I thought this was? How that worked?
You know? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (48:45):
And if you if you threw your hat down and
stormed off every time something like that happened, oh shit, gone,
you'd be gone fifty years ago. Yeah, there ain't no
place for you in this town. No. And and that
is one thing that that's tough to explain to younger
writers is that, man, a lot of this business doesn't
necessarily make sense. And because of that, I think present.
(49:07):
It's why I preach present to win a whole lot.
Because when I remember, I had a one of my
writers that writes with me, for me whatever you however
you want to say, it was having real trouble. He's like, man,
I just don't feel like I'm writing great songs. And
I told him, look, man, I get where you're saying,
But not great songs go number one on the radio
(49:30):
all the time. You have to write them all because
you never know where an artist is personally to relate
to something sure, and it may be something great about
your granddad and the secret spot he took you fishing
and his fishing pole and how that's a linear path
with your life. It may be something great like that
(49:50):
or it may be read so lookup just know me.
Total fun, total, massive, hit massive, you know, one of
the great stories. So you have to write Red Soap
Cup and you have to write she thinks my tractor
is sexy, and you have to write yeah honkey talk
but knock adn't man? And house that built me? Yeah good? Yeah,
(50:14):
So write them all. That's what I'm saying, right them
on Jim Beaver's when he's playing Red Soilic Cup out live,
like when I was playing the writers around and he'll
get through the middle of the song and he'll he'll
just keep on going. That'll be on the guitar and
he'll be like, you know, man, like after we wrote
this song and and it went number one, it was
such a huge hit. He's like, he's like I was
really I was kind of like embarrassed about it, and
(50:35):
he was like, and standing up here, you know, I
guess I got he's talking to the crowd. Yeah, he's
talking to the crowd, and he's like he's like and
sitting up here playing this song and you know, with
all these other great songs that these guys are playing
up here on stage for you guys to not and me.
You know, he's like, it's kind of just it kind
of gets me down sometimes. And he was like, man,
it got me down so much one time that I
almost jumped off. I almost jumped off my wallet. Beautiful.
(51:01):
Then he goes into the second verse beautiful. It's great. Yeah,
it's great. I would say that he's a prime example
of that. They got that. I mean, Jim Bevers has
written Monster, Meaty, Mega Hits, Yeah, Parachute, and he's also
in a beer that stuff, and it's like, you never
know what you need at the time, and you just
got to go with what's in the room. Yeah, And
he would be the first one to tell you that.
(51:22):
He he writes like he knows how to write red
soiluttle Cup way more than he knows how to write
drinkle beer, for sure. But he it just you show
up and do what you do that day. Yeah, And
that full circle comes back to why I feel like
you have to believe that you're doing what God has
called you to do, and ultimately you're not in control
(51:43):
of it, and you have to just you have to
give it to the wind, because if you try to
control it and you try to make it all makes sense. Yeah,
you're gonna wrap that thing around a tree real fast
out the career, not your vehicle, that was you, just
that you just I just did what you do? Yeah,
all right, all right if uh oh no, we already doing.
(52:04):
I mean we're fifty minutes in. Yeah, let's do one more. Okay.
All of these are just like call somebody, call any
Callbrant Cobb, call Lou Combs, call Jason now Dean. I
don't have Jason now Dean's number. Have you ever met him?
Uh no, yeah, I mean either Nope. One of these
(52:25):
statements just says Adam Sanders. That's all it says, is
just Adam Sanders. Nice guy. I like him, Love that guy.
He's great. He's on the New Show? Is he that
that chanting song? Oh? The show, the NBC, the Road, CNBE, CBS. Man,
I'd love to see that work for those guys. Man.
And the reason I mean Adam Sanders is a big
(52:46):
deer killer too, dude. Yeah, that guy kills big deer,
knows how to kill, knows how to go. Find a
good songwriter, a great songwriter, great big deer killer. Channing
Wilson is awesome. Hopefully we'll have him on pretty pretty soon,
do you? Is it we got to write a song here?
Pretty so? Oh yeah, I guess we got a wrap.
It's almost eleven o'clock. Oh you know what, I'm mad
at what my watch is in the shop. Yeah, that
(53:11):
bums me out. Tell the story. I never wear my
watch in the in the pool, in the water, and
it's a sub so I absolutely can. And Dan was
wearing his out in Park City. He was wearing in
the pool and I was like, and I saw these
other guys swimming around with their and I was like, man,
I love wearing my watch. Why am I so scared
(53:32):
to wear a watch that was built to go underwater
for divers in the pool? And I asked that about it?
He's like, just wear it, dude, No, you said, so
I can wear this watch in the water. Yeah, And
I said ten thousand percent to six hundred and sixty feet.
It's made to wear waters. Yeah, yeah you can. Scuba's
pool is five feet deep. Yeah, I think six hundred
(53:54):
and fifty five. As your crown is tight, I said that.
I made sure everything was everything was tight, okay, and
I go jumped the pool, had a great time with
my watch on was was checking you know was not
wasn't late anywhere that day, and the next day it
starts clinking around, starts clinking. It feels like you can
hear the winding mechanism rotating. And no water got in
(54:16):
the face. But yeah, I took it to the place
and they're fixing it for free with the warranty. I
don't think the water did that. I don't know what.
I don't know if it was the pressure in the
plane or the pressure underwater. I don't know what it was.
But I'm going to pick a name off this. That's
what I'm mad at. I'm gonna pick a name off this,
and you're gonna sing a song. Oh that's a I
(54:41):
can't read any of these names. It is kind of
crazy read these. Oh man, I think my sweaty arm
is taking some of these names off. Sorry about that. Hey,
thank you for y'all have hanging out. If you've if
you've made it this far in the video, yeah, in
(55:03):
the podcast, I know today's was a was it kind
of off the cuff day, But we just like hanging
You appreciate y'all. How to find you a good one? Dude?
I can't. Yeah, how are you gonna? Yeah? I mean
I can't read them. I guess maybe does that say grandy?
Yeah he signed it? Yeah dude, he's on the pod. Yeah, okay,
(55:23):
cool my favorite podcast, Stephen Wilson Jr. Oh uh, probably
something like this.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
Oh dude, let's do that. Let's do that one to
see if you can do this one. I'm Steven Wilson
or my song satellay dude, except their way better than that. Yeah,
you keep going, keep going, keep doing what? Yeah? Real?
Yeah you'll follow me. Okay, this isn't his song, but
(55:56):
he mh, I'm gonna rub all the signatures off. Bye,
just keep going. I'm gonna sing it light step winter
night has come and the land is dark, and the
(56:18):
moon it's the only light will see. No, I won't
be afraid. No, I won't be afraid. Just as long,
just as long as you stand by me, some.
Speaker 5 (56:42):
Darling stead by me, oh darling stand by me?
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Or stand won't you stand stand by It's pretty good? Cool,
that's fun. Steven got picked today, Chris Jansen. No, you
gotta do drop d What are you doing? You just
(57:19):
kicked me out? But I can fix a drink the truck. Yeah,
I'm gonna something on up. Yeah, I won't you give
a don Yeah, it was a song coming down and
the tail gate drive on the truck. Yeah. Ugh, good job,
pull it out, wrap it up thing. I'm so hot man. Hey,
(57:43):
thank y'all for for sticking around, for hanging out. We
just we just riffed. For sitting questions. Yeah, for sending questions.
I'm dying. We love y'all. Thanks, see yep see mm
hm
If you notice anything different about today. There's a few
things different about today. First one is there's no guest
boom first first difference. Second difference is my hair flipping
out in the back now. Never happened before, but I
(00:27):
feel pretty cool. Third difference is the AC doesn't work
in this building right now. Nope, So we have a
bunch of box fans around, but we can't use them
because it's too loud. Yep, So we're we're gonna cut
this one pretty pretty quick. It should be interesting to
see how our appearances changed deteriorate over the course of
(00:51):
this podcast, so that'll be fun. Fourth difference is boom
poal bang. I know you noticed that. Look at the
shout out Megan Cartwright and Miles. Yeah, appreciate y'all, Tokvis
sending us these the cart right, Miles was on saddle
(01:11):
Python by far the baddest boots I have now. I
felt like Miles wanted us to have these boots, like
he was searching them out. He was searching for your
boy a ten and a half. Yeah, they didn't have
years and stock did that, but he was. They literally
came in like yesterday. He was very responsive. I haven't
done for a while. I'm already sweating me too. That
(01:32):
what I'm saying. Uh, this is a figured out pod.
We're just uh, we're just we're just grooving and jiving
and uh and we're gonna figure it out. Nothing like
having spotlights on you in the middle of a summer,
in the middle of a room with no ac that's
right with the with in the South, blue jean and
(01:54):
leather boots in the South. Dude, it's just in Tennessee.
It just doesn't get any better than that. Guys. We're
thankful to be here, but you know what we're going.
We're committed. We're committed to your ears and the tones
that grace them, which is our voice, right exactly. Okay,
(02:14):
I didn't know where you're going there. Yeah, I think
you got to stop spelling out all my metaphors. Me. Yeah,
it's like you answer them when they're supposed to just
be a You're not supposed to like literally, metaphors need answered.
I think it's up to interpretation of the listener. It
(02:34):
doesn't hit right if the metaphor doesn't get understood. Quick
wiping your forehead, Well, I got poisonou up there too?
You better, you better quit. We better make it quick
because it's gonna the sweat is gonna drip that poison
oak down into your nose and your eyeballs. And yeah,
that's awesome. Eric Dillon got it real bad in his eyeballs. Yeah,
I couldn't see. He closed his eyes up. Brother, we
(02:56):
wrote with him when that was happening. I feel like
you forget that. We saw that. I forget. Zoom rights, Oh,
zoom rights are. That's a pretty good song too. I
think half of it there were a half a song.
I think I have no clue. I think it's pretty good.
All right, let's get going. We should get We're gonna
answer some questions for you today. It's gonna be a
(03:17):
lot of fun. You guys wrote in some stuff that's
funny and some fan questions. You know what, at least
your fan is. Y'all's fans are aer and these fans
are not. How's wondering how you're gonna wrap that up? Yeah?
He read what's up? Dude? What you mad? Just tell
us funny? It is watch you're mad at playing slow
(03:40):
and long? Itchim kids might be a boss boss man.
He just tells you mad. I think Dad actually is mad.
At his neighbor's cat. Really, he keeps on running the
turkeys off? Is it that? Why one on the dark?
(04:00):
The fairal one? Dude, tell you know what, let's do it. Ray,
I'm hooking up bluetooth. We're gonna call my dad. I
think which one is it? Okay, dude, it don't matter
what kind of bond we're in. If it's if it's
(04:21):
a trailer tires has fallen off the trailer with the
tractor on it and it's scraping the highway in Wayne County, Tennessee.
Or my I'm leaving for four days and my I
don't know know or may not even answer. Doesn't start
a war. We're podcasting and don't have any content to
talk about. We can call our dad. Dude, he's gonna
(04:43):
not answer. I hope he doesn't after that spill and
ain't looking. Oh he's in he's at the hospital. Oh
what what's he doing at the hospital. He's seeing somebody. Oh,
I want to tell him, call me back, Ye, tell
them back. He had a great story about a turkey.
Oh yeah he did. Uh yeah, I don't even want
to say it because it's so anyway. My dad don't
(05:05):
talk about it's kind of in a neighborhoodish area, and
he has residant turkeys and lately they're a cool sports story.
I've been see once again. You're like jumping the talking
about that. I'm not even talking about that. No, stop
talking residant turkeys. Yeah, he's got a hen that has
ten babies that come that that cat runs off. That's
(05:26):
why he's mad at his neighbor's cat. Yes, dude, I'm
not telling the other story, the story, but jumping in
the front of me all the time. Bro, Welcome to
the Bro Pod. Geez we mad. I'm mad. Damn damn,
(05:47):
I'm mad at everything. I'm mad. It's so hot in here, dude,
it happened. Probably doesn't help drinking hot coffee. Hot coffee.
Dad will call us back, tell a cool turkey story.
Hit us with a fan question, Dan, okay, let's stew
it was that? Which one was it? Then t speak
right off the top. Is there a favorite playlist out somewhere?
(06:08):
If not, when are we getting one? Jumps playlist Yesterday,
Lincoln and Stories, What's next? What is it on Spotify
or Apple Spotify? What sound styles and country music do
you all want to see more? Of in the coming years.
Read what sound styles? What sounds slash styles of country music?
(06:33):
Do you all want to see more of in the
next coming years?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What do you want to see more of? Well? I
would love to see the sound and styles of my
own songs. Uh more of? I would love to see
those more of in the coming years. Man, I think
another uh, I think it like an another another Zac
(06:58):
toppy guy is gonna come. I'm gonna break out, you know,
like a like a like a super nineties country player.
There's a few around town that are already gaining traction.
But I mean, I think Zach top Is is the
He's the guy right now. But I feel like a
few more of those will will will come out and
(07:18):
we'll smack will be awesome. I can't instantly say what
I'm I want more of, per se, but I can
I can tell you what I want less of. Honestly,
it's a good question I want less of? I would
I might now Look, it's all well, I know what
I want less of. It's all up to you, right
as a listener, like it depends on what you like
(07:39):
and what you don't like totally personally for me, the
like weird like not really good sonically sounding music like
the basement produced that they're going to like actual press
with uh and and like strange kind of erratic lyric.
(08:00):
I don't that doesn't resonate with me. I like a
good solid streamline productory tune. Yeah, man, I like I
like country music that makes sense. This is not really
like a I guess this is not more like this
stuff I should give you example, like this thing alight
(08:20):
on a window in a far west town, Kansas. There's
a rose and a pair of boots that will belong
to my granddaddy. And then the horse runs through the
yard with a sash arounded stack and belly, run to
the restroom and look for a cigarette. You like that,
(08:41):
You get the granddaddy and the belly in there. That stuff.
I'm just kind of like, waund you know, you know
what I'm saying, Like, I think that's definitely the worst
version of what you're talking about. But yeah, I mean
I just did. I just boo booed that out.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And there's a blow there's a horse running through the
backyard where the saddle no man on it, and a
song with a bonnet.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's actually not bad. That's pretty bad. I don't know.
I just like, uh, I like stuff you can listen
to on the boat. And I'm not saying everything has
to be that way, but that's kind of how I judge, Like,
you know what I like to listen to on the boat. Okay,
who's an artist that that does that that you don't
want to hear anymore? I don't know. Mine is not
(09:30):
sonically mine is. I mean, yeah, there's some few things
that I'm over.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But uh, the the the the shirt off on stage,
like shirt off, like the shirt yeah, the shirtless tattooed
on stage.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like Blink one eighty two, guys that are trying to
make a scene in country. I didn't know. I didn't
know that was the thing. Yeah. I think it's not
about Gavin. No, I'm not Gavin, not Gavin, not Ernest
not like that's yeah, that's you're talking about a guy
that's like, yeah, there's a one guy in particular that
really yeah, and I don't I don't know, and I
think he's brand new, but just his thing is the
(10:16):
shirt off tattooed guy. Yeah. And it's it's like like
it's very it's very it's very raw, like like like
blank one a two and I found glorious and it's
just kind of and it's just kind of like, I
don't know, man, Like when I think about when I
see that stuff and I think about country music at
its core, to me, that's not country music, Like, that's
(10:37):
not that's not what which listen again, it's all you know,
it's all perspective and and and and what you like
and and that kind of thing. And the content of
the music might be, you know, he might be talking
about dirt roads and hunting and and all that stuff.
I'm not real sure, but just like sonically, it doesn't.
I kind of feel embarrassed for the genre when I
(10:59):
see stuff like that. You know, what they say is
that I saw a study on it, or not a study,
but an article on this other day. Is that Dad's comment,
let's get it back to that. We put a pin
in that, Jordan pin in it. What's happening? I can't
hear him, Dad. We make sure it's hold on. Oh,
(11:23):
I'm sorry. Here we go, d What are you doing? Hey?
What's uping? Man? What you doing? I'm fits run to
the hospital check on a patient, and then I'm going
by all the Okay, why didn't you answer. Listen, you're
hold on. You're on the podcast right now, Yeah, you are, listen.
(11:44):
I just said, we've kind of given a little insight
into your backyard turkeys, and I wanted you to tell
us the story of the uh the turkey named Tom Yeah,
Limp and Tom Yeah, Limp and Tom Uh. Tom came
into the yard.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Four years ago and he was very distinguishable as a
turkey to be able to recognize him, because he had
a S shaped beard. You know, as far as telling
the turkey of Parted, I find it impossible unless there's
some distinct mark about him. We had one turkey that
(12:27):
with toothbrush and because of the shape of his beard,
he had a rope that flared out at the bottom,
like I mean like a paint brush.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Paintbrush.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, Well, Graham was sitting me in uh Branda one
days and Graham had seen paint brush, and so he
saw paint brush coming across the yard and he said, hey, Grandy,
there's paint brush.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And I said, look at that.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
About that time, he said, and he's got his buddy
toothbrush with him. Well, Tooth had a long, skinny rope
of a beard and look like a toothbres So. Tom
had an s beard that distinguished him apart for the
whole time he was in.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He came through the yard about three minutes about, got
about three minutes left, just heads up.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Tom started the last few weeks staying in the yard
a lot more.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Uh, he would roost. He would roost in the in
the trees above your yard and everything.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right, he would us roost in the trees in our yard,
probably thirty yards from the back door of the house.
And here on what acre and a half two acres
right there, I have an acre and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, so he's close. He's real close to the house. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I could walk past him and talk with him, and
he would not He'd move away a little, but he
wouldn't run off. Even got old friendly domesticated that I
could see him out feeding, and if I knew there
wasn't much feed on the ground for him, I'd go
get the bucket, come out and start throwing the feet
out and he would away, and then he would walk
back up and feed while I was throwing putting the
(14:04):
feet on the ground. So he became very friendly. He
got very sickly the last few weeks, and like he
was older bird too, I would consider this bird to be.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, And so I thought he looked good.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He started looking like he was going to pull through
and started ever stop feeding well or drinking plenty of water.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But he was looking good.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
And uh, this past Monday, not not previous, but a
week ago, ten days ago, he came. I was home
in the afternoon about two, and I saw him come
through the neighbor's hedge between us, and he came out
and laid down trailer and I saw him dusting himself,
(14:57):
which I've seen him do that many many times, and
I didn't think anything about it. But he pulled himself
under the trailer where the good shade was. Is this midday,
midday he does this two to three o'clock and three
thirty I walked past the trailer to check on him,
and I said, hey, time time to wake up.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And when I got to him, he had uh pairs
had passed. Yeah, he had passed. RP. He died. He
passed away in my backyard. Yeah, but that's his home,
at his home, you know, I mean, And that's a
that's a turkey that I mean. How many videos of
that turkey do we have? Like well, I mean Graham
(15:39):
just turned sixteen, and there's a video of him, probably
three or four years ago. Him and Dean's sitting out
there watching that turkey feed. Pretty yeah, and that turkey's pecked. Well,
he's pecked, paint off your paint, chips off your truck, pecking,
pecking his reflection. And don't cry, Tom, he lived his life. Well, yeah,
(16:00):
he lived a great life, backyard pet life. I mean,
I would say four or five years for a turkey
is that'd be like a ninety year old man. You know,
it's a way better for him waiting for him to
go than getting chased by a turkey or a Bobcat
or Kyle. Right, what did I say, there's another turkey
to get him? I guess yeah. I was going to say.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
The great thing about this is we don't have to
wonder what happened to him or who got him or
I mean he came out, laid down under my my
two wheel trailer, and he that that's where he died.
And so you know, gave him a fitting farewell and uh.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
What you what did you throw him? Defense? Uh? No,
not necessarily not your fence. What was on in Vegas
stage in Vegas Okay, did you cut the spurs off? No, no, beard, Yes,
I kept beard. I kept that's beard. Well, well right
(17:05):
at twelve and a half inches long, man stud salted
or it's gonna it's gonna fall apart. All right, Dad,
thanks for taking up five minutes on our podcast. We
love you man for college. Bye, yeah bye, have a
good day. All right, there's your grandy update on Tom
the Turkey. Pretty interesting. Uh. I did think it was
(17:26):
weird how the bird I hope I go like that
flew back to like the place where he was comfortable
and just kind of was like, I think I'll I
think I'll just slide out here. I think I just
go here. Pretty cool. Yeah, I want to go at home.
What do we put a pin in or out west?
We put a pin in something? Anybody know what we
(17:46):
put a pin in? Shirts off and country music thing?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I already I saw that. Yeah, I saw ah. I
saw a thing where an article and I read I
don't know if it was a billboard or on but
they were saying that the reason that you had defining
music in certain eras like Okay, I'll say it, I'll
say a I'll say a genre, or I'll say a
(18:11):
time period, you tell me what you think of. Okay,
you ready, seventies rock, Debbie Brothers, boom, that was the
sound in the seventies. That was the rock. Okay. So
when you're playing, they're coming back to First Bank, by
the way, So that changed, right, So that music stays
in for ten ish twelve ish years, and then boom
(18:32):
you have She's my cheery eighties moves in, right, and
you got all that stuff, and then nineties comes in
and it's yeah, it's this this is what did it? Literally? Yeah,
I mean that was a major flip in music, right.
Well that was also happening in country too, just different people,
(18:57):
different styles. I think one of the biggest flips I've
ever seen in country music was when uh, maybe you
saw want to Roll My Windle Down? I mean a
whole decade. I mean that flipped country music on its
head right center, broke the broke country era for years,
(19:19):
ten years, ten years actually decade. So what the article
is saying now is that we're it's so wild now
because the mediums that were presenting this music were pushing
it to you, so you had to take what they
gave you. Well, yeah, yeah, it was the only mediums
out there, that's what. Yeah, you listened to radio, you
(19:42):
watch the TV. Yeah, So now that it's so accessible,
you have this hodge podge of all music and not
necessarily like a certain sound that dominates a and if
it's popular enough, it's gonna it's gonna game traction because
there's so many totally and there's so many people that
(20:02):
will buy tickets and they're in every label in town,
which in essence is great for the artists, right, because
you've got guys like great for the artist, I'm not
so sure if it's great for the genre. Yeah, I
could see that, just because it's you know, not necessarily
defines and it's not defined. Yeah, I agree. I think
I think there's I think there's a lot of music
out there that's like, okay, well is that right? I
(20:27):
tell you what I do like though. I do like
the fact that art that creative artists who are doing
it on their own are able to make a living.
Now I'm not saying billions and billions of dollars, but
you've got guys that are putting music out that are
touring and selling out five hundred person clubs and they're
not commercial on the radio or whatever. But they're making
(20:48):
a living and I think that's great for the art
of music. Man. I would almost I would almost advise
these artists to not sign record deals and to not
get in to the monster and the and the machine
that Nashville and the music industry is because because as yeah,
as as uh as diverse as the genre is right now,
(21:10):
and how many or how many kids are popular on whatever? Bro,
these almost said sneaks, these uh, these these people up here, man,
will absolutely like take advantage of you and and and
and and try to try to pull you in just
to make a buck on your on your thing right now, man.
(21:33):
And uh yeah, that's not new. That's always happened right now,
I know, but but it's it's that happens in any business.
It seems like when the second somebody commercializes something, they
take the cool out of it and they want to
make some money on it. And I get it. And
I don't want to hate on all record labels and
all people because you definitely, you know, I'm not hating
on all of them. They are good for something. It's
like different country right what what? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
(21:59):
which is a good for country radio? What George said that,
which in turn is great for songwriters. But it's I
do I do think like from a creative process and
from a you know, these artists trying to make a living,
you know, doing independently to stay independent, because that's I mean,
you build a you build a grassroots fan base that
(22:21):
that will stay with you and go to your shows,
and you control your creative input on it. You control
what you do when you do it. And uh yeah,
I think in essence that's how you build a career. Honestly, Yeah,
I mean, it's by building fans. And then it doesn't
seem as splash in the pants, as just a grab
a grab throwing on the stage. It's also not as
(22:43):
shiny as having a big, fat hit, you know what
I mean, like on whether that be whatever whatever hit
is now, whether that's radio or well, I about to say,
like what, yeah, we can talk about that too, Like
what is I mean? And here's the thing too, we
saw it with We've seen it with a few of
these songs. Like if the song's big enough, and the
song's garnered enough attention and popularity, then radio almost has
(23:05):
no choice but to play it. Cantu. And at that point,
if you're the artist, bro. You I mean you want
one hundred percent of that thing? And Drew Baldridge absolutely,
all right. Next, let me ask you one. Okay, I
saw what I liked a minute ago. Where is it?
(23:33):
It's taken a while? Yep. Oh your dream place to hunt?
Go mm hmm. I mean right now, it's anywhere cold,
But it's because I'm sweating. I would say Alaska for me,
What do you? What? What is it? What is it?
It's probably I don't want to do that. Uh, that's this,
(23:56):
that's CikA Cicca, it's not Cca. What does that do?
Black tail? Columbian black tail things? Columbia and black tail,
they're not a huge antler thing. Go ahead and rip
that off if you want to some driving. It's not
a huge thing on there. You know, we talked about
this all the time, but it feels like I'm getting
(24:17):
more and more about the experience, more than one thousand percent.
And I just see me and you and Dad and
Oak and Boone and Buck on a boat that we
shuttle in and hunt black tailed during the day and
then shuttle back out and have halibut on. I'd love
to make that reality. So sometime, so you know what
(24:37):
I said yesterday in the Codewright, we were talking about
something that like they're like, yeah, man, you know, I
buy all this stuff and then never even like tunnel vision,
and I said, I said, five thousand dollars percent, man like,
and that's what that sounds like. Like we're about the experience,
but like you said, like a thousand percent, but that
sounds like a very expensive trip. Yeah, but it would
(25:01):
be yeah, it would but I mean and kind of yeah,
but we're kind of at the point where, like, you know,
there ain't nothing wrong with with I'm told, if it's
going to give me and and my dad and you
and my and our boys and and our families memories
for the rest of our lives, I don't care. I don't.
I don't. I kind of don't care how much it costs.
(25:21):
And unfortunately we live in a place where no, how
can I say this, You kind of have to pay
for access at this point, and that's the reality of it.
I mean, there are things you can do. I mean,
you can buy your license in Tennessee and go hunt
you know, ali all day long, and that's a lot
of fun. But if you want to get out, it's
(25:43):
going to cost you. There's no way around it. Like,
even if you do it not guided and everything else.
You're buying plane tickets, you're buying gas, you're buying food,
you're buying lodging. You're buying like in order to travel.
And I think this is pretty pretty elementary. It costs money.
It's the same thing with hunting. It's just usually about
twice as much because you go to buy tags and
everything else. Yeah, and gear all that. So yeah, it's expensive.
(26:05):
But I mean, like you said, would you rather have
a ten thousand dollars side site sitting there or a
two week trip with your bros And dad? I mean,
you know some people would say subside, And that's okay.
It just depends on where you're at absolutely in your life.
But that's something I kind of ready to spend my
money on. Here's one for you. I'm on a nelk kick.
(26:26):
By the way, I'm really excited about our tripping in November.
But I think my I think the next big thing
for me is going out there and in back country
bow hunting a big elk somewhere in the middle of them.
I mean it's in the heat of the ruts. It
sounds dreamy. What's the first song you you let's go?
(26:49):
They said, y'all, but I want to do you. What's
the first song you got traction on and made you think?
You know, I think I can do that, you know.
The one I think about is h is uh remember
that show in Nashville. Oh yeah, we had that song
on there and like let that go? Yeah it did
(27:12):
go like that. What was a song called what a
Little Bit? Oh? Yeah song. I can't remember any of it,
but that is. But that was the first time I
was super I was super fresh into town and me
and you and Jonathan wrote that song. But I remember
coming in with that idea and I never, like you
(27:35):
figure out throughout, you know, the writing process what an
actual good idea is. And I feel and I feel like,
you know, I feel like professional songwriters can take anything. Honestly,
I feel I really do feel like that now that
if you threw out an idea, it didn't matter what
it was. It could be a box fan on a
on a hardwood floor. We'd write a good song around that,
Like I mean, as good as we could. Yeah, That's
(27:57):
what I'm saying. But I feel like we can you
can turn, we can turn and something out of nothing
idea wise these days, but there are those ideas that
like you're like, oh man, that's that's pretty good idea.
And I remember that being my first, like one of
the first in a room like that, in a setting
like that, an idea that I threw out that I
was excited about that y'all picked up on. We ended
(28:18):
up writing it and it went to it was on
that show in Nashville. Yeah. And I remember playing like
a little songwriters gig recently, like you know, pretty close
to that show after it happened, and feeling like excited
to play that song in Nashville and being like, man,
I can you know, maybe I can. Maybe there is
a maybe there is an avenue for me good in
(28:40):
this town. I got a twelve plus deer near the house,
I rant, I'm assuming twelve is I've got twelve plus?
Probably I got twelve deer around me, give or take. Oh,
I see, I would send it like a twelve point
Oh is it? No? Twelve plus deer near house? I
ran on cor Cord, it's a buck the buck? I
(29:03):
ran on con Oh, let's not say word. We can't
say sorry. Yeah, I mean he wrote it. Yeah, he
wrote it. But I mean, all right, guy's got a
buck near where he lives, and it's fifty yards from
a police station. Risk it on the opener. Here's what
I had to say about that. If it's a twelve
point buck. If we're talking about here, worth the risk.
(29:26):
What you can't tell somebody to illegally shoot a deer.
I'm not saying illegally shooting. I'm saying I legally shoot
a deer if he's far enough, if he checks the
rags and he's far enough away, if he I mean, yeah,
I see what you're saying. He's fifty yards from a
deer from a police station. But I'm saying, I like
his property stretches out and maybe he could get two
hundred yards from a dwelling or two hundred and fift
(29:48):
yards from whatever the I can't exactly remember the exact
distance from a dwelling. To be legit, Yeah, it's worth
the risk. Now, Look, if you've got twelve plus deer
running around and not of them or studs, I probably
wouldn't risk it, straight up, I wouldn't you. There ain't
no risk. I mean if you're legal, If it's legal,
there's no risks, but like if it's if you're saying,
(30:10):
like you're gonna shoot this deer on the on police property. Yeah,
I don't think he said don't take the risk. Gravorite
restaurant in South Nashville exclude five piece tenders, slash white
monster cat stations. Uh the South? Now, can we go
like as far south as where we're at, or like
South nash Where do you want to go? What's South Nashville? Jordan?
(30:33):
What does that mean? That USUS Franklin, Brentwood, Thomas the Station. Yeah,
I mean a Circa. I'm gonna go Circa in Thomas
the Station. I think Nashville has some good steaks. I think, uh,
the J. W. Marriott, the restaurant on the top of it.
What's that called bourbon steak? That's a good steak. I
(30:54):
like Halls. That's what I think of when I think
of good restaurant. I immediately think of like who has
the best rabbi? Same and uh, what's hoss? It's over
here a rib joint. I mean steak. It's good. Bob's
has got a good steak. But I still think if
I'm not cooking it, I will I will eat the
(31:16):
dog out of a out of a circa coffee rub
ribbi cowboy cowboy cowboy ribba circa. It's a little it's cool.
It's a little like old train station. It's kind of
like out of place and Intomas stationary. Man, that place
is fire, Perry's fire. Don't mix it up with Sperry's.
Why is that not place? Not good? No, it's good.
(31:36):
Oh they have a better prime rib but I think
Perry's is what we're talking is bonkers. What's your okay,
let's let it. Let's do gas station what like if
you were like, we've really talked a lot about gas
station food. But I'm with it, Like the one, the
one gas station, Dodge Dodge store, give me Dodge store,
give me a Dodge store and a twenty dollars bill
and I'm just happy that could be. And you're sitting
(31:59):
on a toilet first the well, maybe the week, but yeah,
it's been a long time. That summertown, that summertown shell
is summertown shell is hard to mess with me. Somebody
somebody talked about that, right, really, yes, somebody was like,
is this a summertown shell? You're talking about summertime? The
one in Waynesboro. The Waynesburg shell, yeah, kind of out
(32:20):
of the way. You're talking about the one where you
go up. Yeah, you know what Dad's favorite part is
about that shell. What he'll be like, hey, man, don't
don't He won't say don't sleep, but he's like, don't
don't forget about the Waynesburg shell. Now they got chocolate gravy,
oh do they? And they'll get like one of those
styrofoam to go play with with, like breakfast biscuits and
(32:41):
sausage eggs and just gas station drippy chocolate gravy all
over it. Fross. If you could have written any three
country songs, what would they be? Oh? Man, I need
some one of mine? Is? It?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Sure feels good?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You just pull up see frost and mug of a
cold on. Will this be your favorite? Helps to be?
I wish I could say it like him, these old
down days the summer. Lord, I'll be glad winter gone
(33:31):
for real today. Too hot to fish, too hot for gone,
to hot to podcast, and too cold home you want
to do of course, then yeah, it's too hot to podcast. Man.
I mean I got I feel, I feel beads dropping
(33:53):
down the back. That's a bead rolling down my elbow
right there. I hope you can see. Man. Yeah, what's
the one of the first words to Uh, that's one.
That's one I wish i'd ridden just because I look, man,
it's never too cold at home in my house, right Like,
I got a great wife, great kids and all that,
But I've been in situations where I'm just like, the
last place I want to go is back to my
(34:15):
dumb girlfriend's apartment. Wait, what I missed that, I'd rather
just go to a bar. And like I in my
life before I was married to Chyenne or even dating Shyanne,
there were time that song is saying, it's too hot
to golf, it's too hot fish, and it's too cold
at home. So the idea is that, yeah, you don't
want to go home, you don't want to go home.
And I have been in that situation with people that
I've been dating, like, oh my gosh, I don't I
(34:36):
don't want to go there. I'd rather just ghost. And
that's like an ode to a bar kind of to
me welcoming you in to just who is that Mark Wills? No,
it's Mark chest Chestnut. Yeah, I almost said Kenny Chestnut.
That's how hot it is? Yeah, pastinating, what's one for you?
(34:59):
Me and Montana or now yours is? Or a tied Yeah,
well isn't that mean? What is that? In your city's
big city? Big city? I'm tired too much work, never
enough place. Now I'm tired of things dirty old side.
(35:30):
I think I'll just walk off my steady job to
do to turn me, send me free, man, I feel
like this right now, somewhere in the middle of mountain.
(35:52):
Give me all I've got coming to me. You can
keep your time. And you're so called so shure sircuy
(36:13):
big city turned me and set me free? Yes? Third? Three?
What's the third one? I was gonna do a She
was standing in the front door when I got home
last night, a good book in a right left hand
(36:33):
and a rolling penny and a right She said, you
come here, boy, for the last time. Lick her on
your breath. If you don't listen to him, I preach
in boy, I'm gonna have to beat you half to
this some eeski to give me just one more least
(36:54):
chance before save me, save it through. That's right, No drives, baby,
It's the best that I can do. We just good
old boys. And making noise. I ain't running around on you.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
It's a gimme just one last chance before we say
well through, gimme it, just one last chance before you
say with through.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
You like how I came in on the singing in
g so you can play it, thanks man, perfect pitch?
That is not what that is? Stitch? What else? What
else is on here?
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Man?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
We'll see jumping around, jumping around? Bro? How awesome is
the West? Mm hmmm. I know we talk about it
a lot, but just singing that, just singing the term
you sent me from Montana just got me. It's just this.
Do you have songs that when you think of that song,
it takes you to a place, like a literal location,
(38:03):
Like for me, a song that takes me to the
West is this? And it I mean that one does
and it doesn't even have I'm sitting on the reason
I'm sitting on the side of that mountain watching the
sun come up or go down. The reason this song
takes me there is not because it's about the West,
but because I was listening to it while I was
in the West. Oh dude, well, yeah, it is about
(38:26):
the West, is it? He wrote this about Paradise vou
gosh it Hello good, I gotta watch look at the words,
Hello beauty, what's your name? Hello? Yeah? I do tell.
I thought I knew it. Hit it out West with
(38:48):
my headphones on no song in the nineteen seventy one.
We're probably messing it all up. That whole that Paradise
Valley record is about. I just found Cools Cliff Town
and the Queen of California is stepping down down. That's
(39:08):
a jam, dude. That feel the feel of that tune
is so what. So that's over there by Egret Montana.
People know that immigrant immigrant and Egret egret or it's
immigrant Ennis. It's over there to nis an immigrant. God,
that place is beautiful, man. Pray, oh, pray, pray my mouth. Yeah,
(39:31):
that place is yeah. Because you don't do this there.
You don't do what I'm doing in this room right now.
That's told. I told Dan Swift and I told my wife.
We were up in we were in Park City the
other day and I was like, I mean, want us
to cose back? Can I see what us cose back
thrown with us? I literally got a towel down, go ahead,
I was, I told. I told my wife and I
(39:51):
told Dan this the other day when we were in Utah.
That like, when I'm at home, I think about the
West all the time, But when I'm in the West,
I don't think about back home. And I love everybody here, man,
I do. I love everybody here. Not everybody, but I
love a lot of people here. But here is hot. Here,
(40:14):
sure is hot, especially when the air con decisions not working.
Acoustic guitar preferences Gibson versus Martin, versus Taylor versus other brands, maybe,
Eastman said says solid SEUs, Gibson and Martin are at
the top for sure. Yeah. I'm not much of a
tailor guy. However, Paul Sykes says, a tailor that sounds awesome.
(40:35):
I have ran across some that I thought, you know
there there. I'm trying to I'm generalizing here big time.
But when it comes to guitars, acoustic guitars and sound,
I think you would go this brief description. You would
go Gibson would be meaty, chunky. I think Martin you
(40:59):
would go by smooth playery. Yeah, I think Taylor, in
my opinion, you would give but bright, bright and look,
there are different sounds for different needs. But me personally,
I don't ever really need a bright guitar. I tend
to lean more towards the a dreadnought than I do
(41:19):
like a full big s J two hundred body. Although
those ones that josh As we played last week were nuts.
Southern Jumpers were incredible. They were nuts guitars. Yeah, I
had to pick. I'm a I'm a humming I'm a
Gibson Humbird. Seems to be the jack of all trades
for me, but you know, for me. But here's here's
why I think you are that is because that was
(41:41):
that was the first really nice guitar you bought with
your money, and you you have a relationship with that guitar,
with the humming Bird. Yeah, I'm not. And that's what
I love about acoustics and and I'm not really like
I've never you know, Dan's the guitar guy and has
been our whole life. Uh And I never was until
like until getting up into town and playing a lot
(42:04):
of them. But but I love that, Like, I absolutely
love that somebody's favorite guitar can be a Jasmine Tacomini
totally because they learn how to play on it. They
that's the only guitar they've ever had, and it doesn't
have to sound amazing, man, Like that's the thing. Like,
you ain't gotta go spend Oh no, you ain't got
to go spend six thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars
(42:25):
a banner on a nineteen forty two banner, you know, Gibson,
or a Southern Jumbo or a fifties D twenty eight. Like,
you don't have to go spend that much money to
have have a good guitar. Man, they're all gonna, they're all.
They all play the same chords. They might sound a
little different, and one might feel more boosty than the
other ones. But if you ain't, if you ain't on
the if you ain't John Mayer on stage, it doesn't
(42:47):
It don't matter, dude, it don't matter. I will see
this though. Sometimes the cheaper ones are actually I completely
agreeretty solid, and I feel like in most cases that
the sentimental aspect of a guitar outweighs the sound way more. Okay,
so let's do this. Let's say I can't imagine John
Mayer playing a Gibson, though, what's the I can't either?
What's the lowest I would Look, you can come to
(43:10):
town with any guitar you want. But if we had
if a guy has, let's just I'll say he has
three hundred and fifty dollars, what does he need to
go buy a Takamini perfect If he has five hundred dollars,
what does he go buy a D eighteen. It's gonna
be tough to find a D eighteen five. That's what
I bought. That's what I bought mine. Well, I was
in college, I was like fifteen years ago. Yeah, I
(43:34):
mean that guitar is not D eighteen. Yeah, it is
the D eighteen. Really, Yeah, I have to revisit him.
Uh okay, yeah, that guitar is not appreciated enough. Okay,
one thousand dollars. You can get a low level Gibson
songwriter for like eleven hundred. Yeah, you can also get
like a you can get like an LG one, you know,
(43:57):
or LG two. Can't really get an LG one, but
like you can LG one. The twos, twos and three
are the ones you can't get. The ones are the
one you can't I thought the one was the more
valued one, two and three. I think that's a great
and that's a different side, right, Like if you want
to if you want a small smile, what's your preference.
You like a small parlor guitar, Go get an LG
one or go get a Go get a Dreadnought Martin.
You know it's fifteen hundred bucks. Now you're getting into
(44:20):
something fifteen hundred is I mean entry level Gibson Martin. Yeah,
like professional? Yeah, you start getting up to two twenty
five hundred and three three grand, thirty five hundred. I
mean I'm gonna tell you go get a J forty five. Yeah,
I mean, go get a brand of J forty five
for three grand. It's a killer. I mean that's I
(44:41):
feel like it's the best acoustic guitar out there. And
people are gonna say no, the D twenty eight is,
but yeah, I think Firs again, it's per personal prep. Yeah,
I think for for one, can't go wrong with any
of those. But you're gonna but you don't don't don't
don't go. You don't go have to grab a K
a K from a yard sale and may billllions of
dollars on it by putting out your weird music. So
(45:02):
just do what you need to do. That's exactly right.
Hey man, let's get personal. Let's get personal. How is
your faith in God influenced you in your career in
personal life? You know, I have a tough time using
getting with the word influenced on on that question for
me personally, because I feel like my faith in God
(45:25):
it is a kind of a thread of who I
literally am, and so it doesn't necessarily influence things. It's
more like it's better not be kind of it. It
uh to me personally, it uh, it's more of a God.
It's more of a God than it is a influential thing.
I mean, honestly, look man, there guys, So what was
(45:48):
the actual question career in personal life for me? Man?
How honest do I get with this? There comes a
point where you have to can control the things that
you can. That's exactly what I was about to say,
and give up on the things and give it to
God the things that you can't. And I still struggle
(46:11):
with that as a personal control freak myself. Yeah, but
you also preach that though like that, like you're all
the time telling me that same thing. And that's that's
one thing I've taken from your your faith in this industry.
Is that is like every time, it's also from my
lack of faith in this industry completely mine too, No, yeah,
(46:31):
mine too. But you know, I mean figured it out.
There's there's me and Dan talk. We talk on all
the time. We talk this morning on the way into
this podcast, on the phone about the podcast for about
five minutes, and then about struggles in life for the
next thirty and and your But but you've always you've
always said that throughout this journey of our music career,
(46:55):
is that like, hey, man, like we don't control any
of it. All we can control is showing up writing
a song and and hoping it's the best song that
we could have written that day. Yeah, and then everything
else it feels. So I know how that feels to
the listener out there, going, oh, it's easy for them
to say, I get I totally. It must be nice.
(47:15):
You know, we always said them. But but when I
look back along, I mean, at this point, I've been
here close to thirteen years, and when I look at it,
maybe even longer than that, I see little titles that
necessarily weren't giant hits, but they got me from A
(47:36):
to B and then from B to C and then
from C to D and then from D to E
and the path of those songs, and and and the reasoning,
the legit, the logical reasoning behind those songs doing what
they did doesn't make sense. Yeah, I know that's kind
of tough to understand. What I'm saying is there are
some songs that I have written, uh that shouldn't have
(47:57):
done as well as they did. Okay, and they did
and they got me to a new place. And then
this song did this, and then this song did this,
and this song did this, and if it is under
your control, theysed all that up. Yeah, every great every
song that you thought was great, would would you would
be pushing it totally? Yeah, and who knows where you
would end up. And so ultimately you have to get
to a point to where you and things I thought
(48:19):
were going to work were absolute, no doubts, whether it
be an artist or whether it be a song with
an artist flopped. Yeah. I mean I had a I
had a song that I thought was just an absolute
hammer with Darius Rutger, his comeback song, and I thought, Bro,
this is it, I'm back, the boys back. It died
in the forties, and it's and and you're left sitting
(48:41):
there going, well, what I thought this was? How that worked?
You know? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (48:45):
And if you if you threw your hat down and
stormed off every time something like that happened, oh shit, gone,
you'd be gone fifty years ago. Yeah, there ain't no
place for you in this town. No. And and that
is one thing that that's tough to explain to younger
writers is that, man, a lot of this business doesn't
necessarily make sense. And because of that, I think present.
(49:07):
It's why I preach present to win a whole lot.
Because when I remember, I had a one of my
writers that writes with me, for me whatever you however
you want to say, it was having real trouble. He's like, man,
I just don't feel like I'm writing great songs. And
I told him, look, man, I get where you're saying,
But not great songs go number one on the radio
(49:30):
all the time. You have to write them all because
you never know where an artist is personally to relate
to something sure, and it may be something great about
your granddad and the secret spot he took you fishing
and his fishing pole and how that's a linear path
with your life. It may be something great like that
(49:50):
or it may be read so lookup just know me.
Total fun, total, massive, hit massive, you know, one of
the great stories. So you have to write Red Soap
Cup and you have to write she thinks my tractor
is sexy, and you have to write yeah honkey talk
but knock adn't man? And house that built me? Yeah good? Yeah,
(50:14):
So write them all. That's what I'm saying, right them
on Jim Beaver's when he's playing Red Soilic Cup out live,
like when I was playing the writers around and he'll
get through the middle of the song and he'll he'll
just keep on going. That'll be on the guitar and
he'll be like, you know, man, like after we wrote
this song and and it went number one, it was
such a huge hit. He's like, he's like I was
really I was kind of like embarrassed about it, and
(50:35):
he was like, and standing up here, you know, I
guess I got he's talking to the crowd. Yeah, he's
talking to the crowd, and he's like he's like and
sitting up here playing this song and you know, with
all these other great songs that these guys are playing
up here on stage for you guys to not and me.
You know, he's like, it's kind of just it kind
of gets me down sometimes. And he was like, man,
it got me down so much one time that I
almost jumped off. I almost jumped off my wallet. Beautiful.
(51:01):
Then he goes into the second verse beautiful. It's great. Yeah,
it's great. I would say that he's a prime example
of that. They got that. I mean, Jim Bevers has
written Monster, Meaty, Mega Hits, Yeah, Parachute, and he's also
in a beer that stuff, and it's like, you never
know what you need at the time, and you just
got to go with what's in the room. Yeah, And
he would be the first one to tell you that.
(51:22):
He he writes like he knows how to write red
soiluttle Cup way more than he knows how to write
drinkle beer, for sure. But he it just you show
up and do what you do that day. Yeah, And
that full circle comes back to why I feel like
you have to believe that you're doing what God has
called you to do, and ultimately you're not in control
(51:43):
of it, and you have to just you have to
give it to the wind, because if you try to
control it and you try to make it all makes sense. Yeah,
you're gonna wrap that thing around a tree real fast
out the career, not your vehicle, that was you, just
that you just I just did what you do? Yeah,
all right, all right if uh oh no, we already doing.
(52:04):
I mean we're fifty minutes in. Yeah, let's do one more. Okay.
All of these are just like call somebody, call any
Callbrant Cobb, call Lou Combs, call Jason now Dean. I
don't have Jason now Dean's number. Have you ever met him?
Uh no, yeah, I mean either Nope. One of these
(52:25):
statements just says Adam Sanders. That's all it says, is
just Adam Sanders. Nice guy. I like him, Love that guy.
He's great. He's on the New Show? Is he that
that chanting song? Oh? The show, the NBC, the Road, CNBE, CBS. Man,
I'd love to see that work for those guys. Man.
And the reason I mean Adam Sanders is a big
(52:46):
deer killer too, dude. Yeah, that guy kills big deer,
knows how to kill, knows how to go. Find a
good songwriter, a great songwriter, great big deer killer. Channing
Wilson is awesome. Hopefully we'll have him on pretty pretty soon,
do you? Is it we got to write a song here?
Pretty so? Oh yeah, I guess we got a wrap.
It's almost eleven o'clock. Oh you know what, I'm mad
at what my watch is in the shop. Yeah, that
(53:11):
bums me out. Tell the story. I never wear my
watch in the in the pool, in the water, and
it's a sub so I absolutely can. And Dan was
wearing his out in Park City. He was wearing in
the pool and I was like, and I saw these
other guys swimming around with their and I was like, man,
I love wearing my watch. Why am I so scared
(53:32):
to wear a watch that was built to go underwater
for divers in the pool? And I asked that about it?
He's like, just wear it, dude, No, you said, so
I can wear this watch in the water. Yeah, And
I said ten thousand percent to six hundred and sixty feet.
It's made to wear waters. Yeah, yeah you can. Scuba's
pool is five feet deep. Yeah, I think six hundred
(53:54):
and fifty five. As your crown is tight, I said that.
I made sure everything was everything was tight, okay, and
I go jumped the pool, had a great time with
my watch on was was checking you know was not
wasn't late anywhere that day, and the next day it
starts clinking around, starts clinking. It feels like you can
hear the winding mechanism rotating. And no water got in
(54:16):
the face. But yeah, I took it to the place
and they're fixing it for free with the warranty. I
don't think the water did that. I don't know what.
I don't know if it was the pressure in the
plane or the pressure underwater. I don't know what it was.
But I'm going to pick a name off this. That's
what I'm mad at. I'm gonna pick a name off this,
and you're gonna sing a song. Oh that's a I
(54:41):
can't read any of these names. It is kind of
crazy read these. Oh man, I think my sweaty arm
is taking some of these names off. Sorry about that. Hey,
thank you for y'all have hanging out. If you've if
you've made it this far in the video, yeah, in
(55:03):
the podcast, I know today's was a was it kind
of off the cuff day, But we just like hanging
You appreciate y'all. How to find you a good one? Dude?
I can't. Yeah, how are you gonna? Yeah? I mean
I can't read them. I guess maybe does that say grandy?
Yeah he signed it? Yeah dude, he's on the pod. Yeah, okay,
(55:23):
cool my favorite podcast, Stephen Wilson Jr. Oh uh, probably
something like this.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
Oh dude, let's do that. Let's do that one to
see if you can do this one. I'm Steven Wilson
or my song satellay dude, except their way better than that. Yeah,
you keep going, keep going, keep doing what? Yeah? Real?
Yeah you'll follow me. Okay, this isn't his song, but
(55:56):
he mh, I'm gonna rub all the signatures off. Bye,
just keep going. I'm gonna sing it light step winter
night has come and the land is dark, and the
(56:18):
moon it's the only light will see. No, I won't
be afraid. No, I won't be afraid. Just as long,
just as long as you stand by me, some.
Speaker 5 (56:42):
Darling stead by me, oh darling stand by me?
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Or stand won't you stand stand by It's pretty good? Cool,
that's fun. Steven got picked today, Chris Jansen. No, you
gotta do drop d What are you doing? You just
(57:19):
kicked me out? But I can fix a drink the truck. Yeah,
I'm gonna something on up. Yeah, I won't you give
a don Yeah, it was a song coming down and
the tail gate drive on the truck. Yeah. Ugh, good job,
pull it out, wrap it up thing. I'm so hot man. Hey,
(57:43):
thank y'all for for sticking around, for hanging out. We
just we just riffed. For sitting questions. Yeah, for sending questions.
I'm dying. We love y'all. Thanks, see yep see mm
hm
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