Ep. 93: Buy Dirt, Brother Wars, and Songwriting with Josh and Matt Jenkins

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yo, what's up?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're off in God's Country with your boys. Read and
Dan is Well, also known as the Brother or Something.
We take a weekly drive to the intersection of country
music in the great outdoors gonna be fired up thing.
They go together like man, just good dudes and the
jinkin bros.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Or a brother with brown hair and one with brown
hair was slightly gray. They both have brown hair. Oh
it's kind of white gray, Josh brown gray like that.
That's what those things go together, like as brought to
you by a meat eater.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
And we're riffing. I ain't got nothing.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Off the dome, Baby off the time, Baby off the top, raised.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Spots and show.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
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and dropped to another track, and it's great that he's back.
Pick up the slack covers a sponsor and the show
Now Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
The cos just let it rock, dude, there's some synth
in there. Some m I can't when a new one
comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I should have had a line made up. I didn't
know it was say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It shocked me.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Sorry, but your boy picked up I got you to
picked up the slack because red I six up.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Jenkins bros.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
We love these guys. There's there's a few set of
brothers in town that are are a lot like us,
cut from the same cloth, same values, and we love
having them on the podcast. We brought a few of
those on the podcast. Now we've got another one for you.
The Jenkins Bros. Matt and Josh. Unbelievable talents, can do

(02:00):
it all, sing right, play, come from an unbelievable musical
background with their parents or dad as a songwriter. Just
a really cool, really cool story, really cool interview with
a couple of couple of awesome bros.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I hope you enjoyed this read intro because he just
did the entire thing, including this song, and you did great.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Welcome to every day of the podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Did great. We really hope you enjoyed this. But I
do smell something in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Coming your way, right at you, damn right at you,
down the nose, right here, coming right at you. Here
it comes perfect timing, It clicked off?

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
These duck hunters?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
These quote duck hunters end quote from not really Colton
Shaw two thousand.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Already strike one cult ten cult for not being duck hunters.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Y'all talk about it a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, because maybe we got people that duck hunt on
our show, Colt he already gave them the boot on
the first.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Then I'm so glad raised back the best two person
podcasts and consistently talks over their guests, keep spreading the
word of the Lord and always.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Making us laugh.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Came back and got you sorry you put a little
clapping there cold and y'all thanks five geort sweet to
the point, five stars reviews. Please keep leaving them. You're
getting us paid and keeping us on the air. Keep
them going, make them nice.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
If you want to.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
We don't care.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I love the jings Bros. Great, They're awesome. It's so great,
so cease, don't cease. Peace We've got for you. It's
weird not having headphones, though I know it's different. We've
got a set of brothers bro Pod, some of our

(03:59):
favorites hell them from Fort Worth, Texas. Some singing hit
songwriting men of faith. One's a former member of Green
River or Hits. They're behind some of your favorite hit
songs Yep by Dirt, Fancy like cop Car, do I
Make You Want To?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
And more.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
We've got some of our boys, the brothers Jost Double Jinks.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
He said, he said, you've had him Davis bros.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
You didn't have the Davis bros On together though.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
We did did yeah a long time ago. Jordan flew
so long, but yeah, we had them both. It was
they have an interesting thanks for coming. You're looking sharp always.
I think you got it.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I think you guys do a great job of like
dressed down but like appropriate.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
The Jenkins broy they're not slouching.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
They're like bro.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Either one of them could go do a song anything.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Ready, we're ready to hit the street corner and ask
for some money and play some songs life of a somewhere.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
But yes, anything will show up.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
You got to be ready to go.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Or we gotta do some sort of competition in this
thing where it's big bros Versus little bros.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Some come up with it. I got some bro questions
that we're going to ask you in a little bit.
So we always start off, We always start to show
off boys with a little segment called what You're mad at? Yeah,
because I'm good what you mad at? Just tell us
what it is? What you're mad at? Is it you

(05:42):
in loss kids, mind be bass man or your neighbor's cat.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Just tell us what you mad.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I love watching people's faces.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I like watching you watching dance face when he was
just used by well, I have to it's a high harmony.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
So really focus, squeeze what exactly what one?

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Ready go?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
It's like mad, I'm mad annoyed this year. You know,
every few years there's like a certain insect. This year
the like a little gnat fruit flies everywhere. Yes, I
can't get them out of my house.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
We're at a restaurant, can get your dog on.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Today with my wife and there nice restaurants got like
these gnat fruit flies everywhere.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
I'm like, it's like the year.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
You know, you get the cicadas every seven years, like
it's a year of the that's I'm annoyed.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm mad.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I would say maybe I seck that for sure annoyed,
But I figured it don't make the way to East Nashville.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, I figured you were going to say they're not
they're two countries.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I figured you were gonna say you're mad at that
smoke that they sprayed. And when we played that Riders
around that day, you remember how mad he got.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well they gassed us out.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
I was like this the smoke guy was ready for it, man,
he had had that wait it was it was sound check.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
It was sound check.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
They were testing the smoke machine, and this guy was like,
we need to make sure this could fill up this
whole hanger.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think we're good on the smoke machine.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
You keep THESS like, I'm not sure we need a
smoke machine.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Lest see anything.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Let me see, dude.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
We played this riders around the four of us did,
and they had a sure.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Enough smoke machine. Oh yeah, Like it wasn't dry, it
was smoked, dude, Like, I haven't played.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Many rounds with a with a smoke machines.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Very low key, very calm. And then as we're checking,
we just hear this and this just starts permeating this
airplane hanger where but it was like behind Matt and
it was just spraying. It was just spraying you, Matt.
He just disappeared, he was gone. He was like, he was,

(07:51):
is this seriously?

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Car?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I requested, y'all know, I requested the smoke machine.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
So funny, that's one of my favorite things that ever happened,
because you didn't get sick from it or anything. I
wouldn't have talked about it if we hadn't made it out.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Oh that's a great story.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
And that's man, that's I hate NAT's dude, I hate Nats.
Have you found like the remedy?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mean, I don't know what we do?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
What do you do? Like the thing with the vinegar
and put on and the don So it.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Works, Princey Apple got some little container with it.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Tell you something else that I figured out. If you
cut all the lights off in your house, Wait, how
tall are ceilings?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
You can't reach it? So in our little house we
have nine foot ceilings.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Get that? I think I just swaddened that right then.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I cut all the lights off in the house
and I turned one on the ceiling and they all
go to that light, and I cut the vacuum onm
it's something that did you come up with that?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Man? Over thinking that that?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Well, accidentally, accidentally I did. I'll take that. I will
do that same thing. Like I'm trying to cook dinner
or something.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I see them flying around, I just grab the vacuum
real quick and take the end off and just have
the long time trying to say that works? That helps? Yeah,
we have those little vivo things that you plug in. Yeah, yeah,
they work pretty good.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Anyway, Are you mad?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Josh? Not mad at Nats.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
We don't got Nats, but I mean Bro and I
share a similar frustration.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
So it's fall.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Obviously, football season's coming.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Fall yet well it's almost it's fallowing my kids back
in school.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh so that's how you determine for.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
I'm just like kids are out of my house.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
It feels like falls like right here, football is about
to happen in a couple of weeks. It starts obviously
like September ninth's first pro game. We're Cowboys fans and
just like every year, we're getting like the vibe the
post summer early kind of fall ambition and anticipation, you know,
optimism for the Cowboys season, and they're just like they're

(09:52):
just dragging out contract drama. So are our optimism is
being met by a lot of like just are they
going to sign Michael Parsons or not?

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Just mad kind of run? What have you got to
do that?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:04):
And it's like he's gonna hold out.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
So then we're just like getting ready to watch and
like you know, you just all the things. So we're
just we're lamenting a little bit of the Jerry Jones drama. Yeah,
it's kind of kind of running our fall.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
What about Dak Man.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
I think Dak's gound be great this year. I think
the Cowboys, I'm optimistic, but we're also we're also every
we're eternally optimistic, and then about halfway through we get
our hearts broke. But I think we're gonna have a
great team. You were saying, just like Tennessee fans.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
There's like that meme going around, like every year the
Cowboys go, this is our year. Yeah, and so we're
one of those. We've just grown up in it, and
so every year we like see all the positives and
so I don't know, we're we're Dak believers, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Michael Parson believers. I'm like, get the dog on the field.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
The problem is there's actually a new documentary that just
came out, so and it kind of gets into Jerry
the Gambler just such a showman. I just can't tell
how much of this is like entertainment show and the
Mica thing.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
So we're we're a little frustrated, but anyway, we're hoping.
We're like every year we're like we're gonna be pretty
good this year.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
Check check in exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
But got anything?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
No, dude, I mean, oh yeah you do. No, I don't. No,
I can think of four things. I mean, bro, I mean,
if we're I don't want to go into the h
o A thing again. But you've done that already. I mean,
I've been mad at the h o A a lot.
But but honestly, what I mean, I don't listen to this.

(11:35):
I mean, so I live in a super country community
and and the h o A members want it to
be a gated community in the middle of Franklin, but
it's not. We're a super country community, super country neighborhood.
And I found out that my shed has to be
the same color of my house.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Now let's just let's just keep it.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And they've been losing sleep over a door, over.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
The color of your ship.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh like they put like what do they call you?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Like my house side outside.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
My house used to be half blue and brick, but
we painted all white. Looks it looks great now bricks.
So they never complained about my shed being uh yeah,
so they never complained about my shed when my house
was was half blue and white, and my shoes just
kind of like old paints falling off. It's a little blue.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You didn't put it up, you moved in with the
shed there.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Absolutely, And so now painting my house white redid the
landscape and everything looks great. Shed still so.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
It kind of pops compared to that contrast so contrast.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
So now that's it's toughed, it ain't like, Yeah, I think.
I think the big thing is like we're at the
front of the property and everybody, they all see it
when they go in that board.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Have what they gonna find?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
You talked about this a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
They've they've so far they've threatened to find me, and
they never never did threatened to sue us. Never did
they take like legal action, take it to the lawyer.
And and it just got to the point like where
I had a few members texting me about like, hey man,
I've done all we can with the board. They're coming
after you started.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm laughing about it.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
And I was just like and I told my dad.
My dad was like, dude, please let me paint the shift.
Just please let me paint the ship. He was like,
just to get it off your plate. And here's the thing, like,
I ain't got no drama in my life ever. Like
we're really good about keeping drama outside and just chilling.
That's the only drama we got in our life is
the age of way. It's just. But at the same time,

(13:32):
like I don't let I'm not letting. I'm not letting
them get inside my head at all.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Everybody else is super pissed off. I'm just like, bro,
what I don't either. I ain't got time to deal
with any of them.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Do you want them to hear this?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean I don't think they will, but maybe a
couple of the board members will hear.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Do you care that they have?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Absolutely not, dude, they know they can't stand me. I
tried to grow grow a flower patch in my backyard
last year. You're pretty it's a country neighborhood, dude, It's
a super country neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I love. I just picture like some old grandmas as
they're like walking back.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Sometimes people got too much time on their hands.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I know, man, bro and dude, I just I just
want everybody to be happy, and if they're losing sleep
over somebody else's shed, I'm praying for you.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Dog.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I don't, but you can see it. We'll be outside
our water slide with our with our tin up and
like the like the kids four wheelers you know, everywhere,
and you just see them slow down coming by our
house and they'll be looking like this a little like play.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
I get some basic like hey, don't have a you know,
like a trailer sitting in front. I get through some things,
but like the color the shed, come on.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
You're also in the country, super needless to say, I'm
on I'm on Zillo all the time. There's an awesome
lake in the back of my neighborhood that pretty much
we're the only ones that fish. That's like holding me.
It's got a hold on me because it's amazing. Anyway,
I'm not mad at anything.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, uh so for me. My nanny showed up to
the house this morning and she was like, I got
to show you. This is crazy. And she pulls up
a video and it's like from her high school that
she she's from California, but it's from her high school.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
She grew up in.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
And it's this kid and the teacher's like talking to him,
you know, like the pulls him out of the crowd.
They're having like some sort of assembly of some sort
and the kids like he's doing this and he's got.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
To oversize the hoodie. I said, how hot is it there?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
She's like, oh, it's probably like one hundred and ten
and he's got on this hoodie.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know how old is this kid? For fifteen?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
He sheds the backpack and just decks the teacher right,
just pops him. The teacher does not react, grabs him
by the shirt and pulls him and he's pulling him
to the exit. Well, just about the time he gets
the exit, you see this cop run up and wrap
the fourteen year old dude up and he starts fighting back,
and you see him get outside the door and through

(16:04):
the glass pane, you see the cop just sue plex
this kid.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm talking about, wam what.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
It takes him back clutching stuff, and it's like, yeah,
man's it feels awesome, right, And it took me back
and I think what I'm mad at is punk ass kids,
Like that's what the actual what I'm actually mad at
is pa case right, packs packs past little l I
l pack little.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm mad at him. I can't stand little packs, dude.
So it took me back to a.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Story that I remembered and I was like, maybe I
should I shouldn't tell that on.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
The podcast, and she was like, no, you gotta tell
that on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think you possibly might already have a long time ago.
But go again.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I punched a child in the face, are you yes,
straight up? But you are kind of a child yourself.
I mean I was sixteen, seventeen, sixteen, he was ten.
I mean your age.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
The kid he was choking out was my age.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, give us a little, give us a little, just
go ahead. So i want Read's basket. Middle school basketball game,
and I'm watching him.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I was out there. I scored like forty this size
on this size. I have been this size at sixteen.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I've been the size since I was in the fifth grade.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Due.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I was just for you.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
The guy in the locker room, You're like, look how
much hair he's.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
He's a man, a man.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I was shaving this and this for real sixth grade.
I thank you, thank you. So i'm reads game.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I go to the restroom. I walk in and it's
one of those big, long concrete you know what I mean.
There's tons of urinals and stalls and all this stuff.
And I hear like, I'm like that sounded rather choky,
you know. And so I'm kind of like, man.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's really cool.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
And I'm looking on seeing that, and I go to
the very backstall and the doors like not open but
kind of like this, you know, and I just kind
of breathe the doorback. And when I do, there's a
special needs child being choked out by this other kid
who's like probably ten. I mean when I say choked out,

(18:15):
I mean had his against with the throat against the wall.
Kid's face is like purple eyes, wow, bulging out.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Slobber is coming out like I don't mean like fom,
I mean like saliva, drool is coming out of his
kid's mouth.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
And I just.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Punched the kid in the face. I straight up just
hit the guy that was holding him. Bill flew him
across the.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
He was ten years old.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
It's kind of a hero move though.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
So I get the kid, I walk him out. His
mom comes up.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
He's like, I'll never forget the breath that kid took
in when they when the when the hand came off.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
His dad he went like, wow, it was wild, dude.
And and I was like, my drilline was pumping. I
just punched a child.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I walk him out to the that's a scenario where
it's okay.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
To like that, I'll watch him again.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
But I think about that kid and he was a pack.
Dude that was resting piece to both those guys what
I'm just kidding and the packed parents pa parents Aku, Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's it's a real fall that nobody.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
That kid, he was going like do something, you want
to do something?

Speaker 5 (19:31):
He took his.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Not the ten year old.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
This kid was out Yeah, he was out here. Well
I mean he broke his glasses, yeah, had glasses. It
flew off his old thing. But it was a pack.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I think packs should get punched in the face, dude,
I was mad though.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Packed piece should get punched the face to I'm sorry,
that's probably more accurate. Packs should get super lex by cops,
cops at the school. Pack's parents should get punched the
face by us. I agree.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
Account I've seen some packs that have good parents. Really,
I've try and wrangle a kid that just was just
a pack.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah for real, real, I don't know that I've ever
seen there is nothing better than a pack parents kid
out of just just showing that we're laughing about how
southern that statement was, ripping them a new one. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
I love that statement.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Due great story. Some packs you were, Yeah you were.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
You're still a kid yourself, so I can still see
I wish I could see that.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I could see this child writhing on the bathroom floor
from being punched in the baseball There's.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
A lot more.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
There's an upticking kids punching teachers though, for real?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Is there?

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
That's really My kids are so small. I don't I
guess I don't really even see that.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Is it something that like has always happened and we're
just now seeing it because everybody's feeling everything, or is
it just this new wave of lack of respect to Yeah,
I completely agree.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Yeah, and like you have respect for authority and consequences,
zero consequences.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
What are you gonna do? Like you might need to
get expelled? Yea. Those kids don't want to go to
school in way.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, interesting. I never saw anybody buck up on the teacher.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Never in my happened where we came from.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
When you went home?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Do you get spankings at your schools? Do people get paddlings?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
No, we got spankings at home though.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, who whipped all most of your mom and your dad?

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Oh dad, our mom was, and I got whooped way
more than him.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh this dude was, he's so mellow. I tell people
I said, this dude was a he would stir the pot.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Really.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Oh man, give me a good old story of when
he got whipped, you know so many times.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Give me something he did.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Well, here's the deal. Let's talk about this. This guy
just anything you told him to do, he would do
the opposite.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I have a very strong willed child. And you don't
realize you have a strong willed child. You're like, whoa
Like you think parents the whole nature versus nurture thing,
and then you have a kid and you go, hey,
a lot of their personality they just came back.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
God made him this way.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah. And I asked my mom, I'm telling her about
my strong willed child, and she's I was like, was I.
She's like, oh my gosh. I had to read a
book called Parenting a Strong wheeled child.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
So I was like, it was me.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
But I used to work this guy, bro.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
He had just come by and I was I was
a late grower and he had just whooped me up.
And I would take a why to go for the weapons.
I was a weapon kind of guy. Yeah, like I
would calculate, I wouldn't be able to how much older
is I was two years older, and I was like
I didn't grow till like junior year and the sophomore year,
and I was small. And this dude was like you know,
and he just had aggression that he didn't know how

(22:37):
to handle.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Said.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
I was, you know, we have some stories.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
We don't have time, but give me, dude, give us
the best one O one one that comes to.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
And sit him in the head with a battery I
threw in his head.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
He was in the bathroom and this story of all
the stories, there's some that come to mind, but he
was hanging in the bathroom or something and I walked
it behind him and I punched him in the back
of the.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Elbow, lit my arm on fire, started screaming funny.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
I grabbed the nearest battery and he starts running down
the hall to his bathroom and I throw it at
him and I swear he closed the door and it hit.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
I'm like, wow, I almost knocked him that.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
He was like, my arm's on fire. Bro.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Then he was like.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Man, I was gonna keep Yeah, there's a lot of stories,
but he mellowed out, But yeah he was, and he
worked mom and dad over that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's probably a big source of of my temper back then.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like I was, I feel like I really messed with you.
I was so much bigger than him, dude, it was
kind of like not that. Yeah, I had that.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I was the same way. I want a weapons a guy,
but I was a sneak attack guy like he wouldn't.
And then you run, you fast?

Speaker 4 (23:41):
You in a sprint?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Do you think that's why you were fast? I think
I have a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I'm not giving you that credit. Dog, I've always
been fast. It wasn't because I was running away from you.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You're pretty quick at that.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
All Right, I got some I got some bro questions, okay,
and we're just gonna I'm just gonna rapid fire, and
y'all tell me. Okay, if your family had to vote
one of you off an island, who would it be?

Speaker 5 (24:03):
And why?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Immediate family? Yeah, dude, Yeah, okay to your mom and dad.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
M hm. He's kind of got a weaker immune system,
so you might be quick to go. Yeah, that's pretty
good these days.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I wish I had brought a.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
When you should have told the.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Story with it blowing, just aimed right at you.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Who gets eating first in a zombie apocalypse?

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Josh, for sure that I don't get much.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Uh. What's one thing your brother thinks he's great at
but isn't.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Oh, I love this question.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
I wouldn't say golf, would you don't think you're good?
Definitely not golf. Dang, Bro, that's a great question. He's
created a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
That's it, man, I'll do that with with you. What's
what's it? What's something that I think I'm good at
that I'm not that great at.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
You go, you do me first, and then I'll do
I have to think of one, you know. That one
kind of caught me off guard. To Sam, Uh, you
think you're good, you think you're a great communicator, you're
not your presentation, your presentation on things that you think
you because I think to everybody, to you, Bro, Yeah,

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to everybody. I don't know, Bro, I don't know either.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
That I'm trying to think of something.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I wish we had a great answer for that, but
I don't think you were really. I think we're both
pretty self aware of like her shortcutmings and everything we
suck at saying so I don't know. I feel like
we're pretty honest with things, but anyway, there might be
something that I'm I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Think you're great at shooting a gun.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
When I think I got I got plenty of well,
I got plenty of stories. I'm just saying, Okay, the
deer in Mississippi that I shot in the head at
one hundred fifty yards with iron sight twenty two. The
deer in Missouri that took off from the creek bottom
that I dropped with one shot, running through the creek
bottom of the and when he jumped, I don't remember that.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
But imber crawling through the creek.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
What I do remember is you missing three turkeys in
a row one year, one season.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
You miss laughing in there? Okay, good, we got them
all right.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
One more. This is a good one. Wait where did
you go?

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Where to go? Where to go?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
If you had to switch lives for a day, what's
the first thing you'd mess up for each other? Oh?

Speaker 5 (26:31):
God, these these takes some thinking.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'd go down there and just unplug all the studio stuff,
change all your settings, settings, and.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Switch last day. What would I mess up?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I don't know. I think Dan would probably mess up
my marriage because he's a terrible husband. Marriage. You do
a fine job without yourself. Yeah, talk about it twice
a week. All right, So let's let's go background.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Where are you?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Where'd you grow up? Where are you from from?

Speaker 6 (27:07):
We grew up in a small town in Texas called Aledo.
Actually hold the most state titles. You all saw Friday
Night Lights?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Oh yeah, I did football the movie or the show
the show?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, Tammy Taylor coach Taylor shows.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
When you think of Texas football town is where we grew.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
They hold the most state titles of any town in Texas. Yeah,
west of Fort Worth, about thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And we moved there when I was in sixth grade.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
You were in eighth grade. So we moved there.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
We were in like Keller, Texas before that, but moved
to Aledo and that was our that was our upbringing,
like a football town.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
And uh, you know, raised on mom and dad at
a young age had us playing Opry's so we uh,
we don't know if you knew this. This is a
fun fact about the Jenkins bros. We were in a
family band. Our dad was a songwriter. Our dad met
our mom, our mom was working the door and our
dad was playing really and our dad was an aspiring
songwriter obviously had to get a real job, and so

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he would still write songs and play these oprys as
just a hobby. And we were saying opres so an opry,
think about like the Grand Ole opry, but more podunk.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
So every podunk.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
There's like twenty po dunk towns across Texas that had
a house band and seventy to one hundred people come, mainly.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Over the age of fifty.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Sounds awesome playing classic country song.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
So we grew up little.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
They would deck us out in wranglers, western shirts, chili
bowl haircuts, and we would go play George Jones, Merle Haggard,
Gene Watson songs, you know, and then that kind of
evolved into like modern country. But we grew up singing.
That's all we thought existed. And then we'd go to
church on Sunday, so we were singing songs about cheating,
drinking and dying.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
And bro And it's funny to see him now he
kind of went the rock rat with Green and Bordenans,
and but early days of him wearing like the tightest
wranglers ever chili bowl haircut, singing fell Party by Gene
Watson about your dying dude.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
That was my grandma.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
She would come to the show and she'd be like,
that's my favorite song and it was always is the
song about people, yeah saying goodbye your funeral.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
And I was like, as a ten year I'm like,
this is not cool. So we just had a chili
bowl haircut. That was our dude.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Y'all should do that recreate thing where you put the
same outfits on and take a picture.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
But we have some.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Hilarious video we'll have to show y'all sometime of us
just on stage with us too. We're like nine and seven.
My mom's got the big Texas hair and dad singing.
Daddy Frank play the guitar and the French house merle hagg.
Mom's playing, she's playing like the tambourine and we're singing
and anyway, so we we just grew up playing those operations.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
It has to be fun.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean it's really fun to Yeah, it's really cool.
Sir and her dad, I mean, just to his point,
had binders of lyrics that he wrote growing up, and
so we just were like, you know, growing up in
that sort of immersed environment where songs mattered, who the
song mattered. And so I mean again it was all
the country stuff from Merle to George and all the

(30:06):
stuff over to James Taylor and Cat Stevens and Eagles,
and so we just we said this, We told this,
you know, we talk about this. But he used to
give us a yellow legal pad and said, hey, go
write a song. Wow at ten, eleven twelve. And so
we just grew up writing songs. So even our story,
as we talk about it, is like so full circle
for our you know, the or origins of our dad

(30:29):
and being a songwriter and now we both do it
for a living and it's really it's a really cool
thing to be able to do it together.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
But just how we grew up and for our mom
and dad.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I don't feel like that's a common theme that we've
had on the show. We have a lot of people
say that they grew up in church singing, yeah, but
rarely do we have somebody say that their dad was
a writer and kind of walked them into the craft
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Like did he ever want to pursue it as a career?

Speaker 6 (30:54):
Oh yeah, And he had some amazing songs and he
wanted to do it. And I don't you know, I
think life got busy, two boys crazy, working a full
time gig, and but I remember he would sit there,
like on a Sunday and he'd have the newspaper and
he would write hooks and he would have pages of
hooks and he would always be like, Hey, it's fun
to go sing other people's songs, but it's more enjoyable

(31:16):
to write your own. So he was just baptized us
in go to the other room, come back and create, create,
and so that creative spirit was kind of born into
us from a yeah, from a young Wow. There's a
couple of songs that like, there's one that's like called
the Greatest Show on Earth.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
It's like, we'll call it The Gray, the Show on
the earth yoliven me, friend, I've had ring side tickets.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
For years at the Gray to show lore like songs.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
That you would have heard in the eighties.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
It's very like traditional like George Straight early, George Strait Zone.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And so he would just we were like rolling back around.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
We talked about he'll send us a hook every now again.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Dads are terrible, Yeah, yeah, I don't, Well, Pops will
like I got a hook for you, and I'm like, Pops,
have you hit us with a good one.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
We'll put your name.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I said the same things. Just my dad's are never good.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Working for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
A few times maybe, but when he's not chicken, but
when he's not trying to give you hook and he's
just talking that speak, Yeah, he speaks hooky.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Moms are pretty good. Good.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, she's got something that we I think I've actually used.
They've never been cut of course, but yeah, mom's pretty good.
Your mom musical. I think she had a she's got
a cool voice, but I don't know if she claim
to be musical.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
But she would be like our dad would be like, hey,
let me teach you how to sing harmony or whatever.
So she would get up there and sing. She probably like,
if not for him, would not have but she was
singing church and stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But yeah, what was the journey? What was your journey
from Texas to Nashville, Dick? The decision was your dad like, man,
go do it, go, do it?

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Tell me about us coming here when you were like older,
so you and again this is back to like God
just you know, ordained us to be in the family
that you're in proa y'all too.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
But it's like with a dad and mom.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
But dad that just would drive you all around Texas,
playing shows, just cultivating love for music and like it
just was you know. He just was like such a
driver and pusher. So it helped, you know, us grow
a lot. But I entered up.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
We used to come to Nashville.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I met Mike Doyle used to be at ass Cap,
and so I signed up with ass Cap. We met
a trip to Nashville when I was fifteen or sixteen,
and just started making all these connections and you know,
I entered. He entered me in a narrist Grammy showcase
when I was nineteen. Came to Nashville. In just a
few songs I'd written by myself, Wow and turn him in.
I'd made the finals for that. I came to town

(33:49):
and my dad cold called Joey Williams.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
He called everybody.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
We met Byron Gallimore, Buddy Cannon flew down to Texas.
Dude Kevin Jenkins was.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
A hunt but he's a big call up and go.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
You need to hear my son and so homeboys sang
like Trace Atkins. Back then we had little Cassette tape.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Give me a little bit every lad in the House
song I used back then. I used to be like,
try to sound like that's what I'm saying. I told
you know, you do the school.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
You but I just want to hear one lyric of
you sounding like Tracy Lawrence.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Uh, it's early.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
How I told you I'd leave the loud on. You know,
it's pretty trying, but pretty.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
That was not enough the world every lade, yeah, you
get you crushed it. But but he would literally Pops
would call Cole call his people. So we you know,
we were coming to town and that thought I was
kind of veering away from country, going to do the
rock stuff, and Bro was like getting meetings with everybody.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
And you know, not to let's go two D. But
so ended up eventually getting a record deal. On one
of those trips, Jodey Williams took me to play for
Tim to Walk. Tony Brown got a record deal. I'm
like nineteen, I'm like, I'm going to be famous, you know,
And so I moved to Nashville, had a record deal,
the did a bunch of cool things, played the Grand
Old Opery and opened up for a bunch of great artists.
But then lost a record deal and eventually I mean

(35:11):
you were coming some too, but not to jump ahead
too much, but Green River sort of towards the you know,
Green River was winding down. It's like, hey, bro, come
to Nashville write songs, and so that's sort of how
it's other collaborative.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
Yeah, when he was doing Nashville, I joined met these
hippie kids in Texas, which was.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Still kind of country.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
It was like southern.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
It was kind of all later later early on it
was more Matchbox twenty, yeah, and they were a blues rock.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Band, kind of trying to be CCR.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
And I was like, man, I'd heard like Matchbox twenty
and Google Dolls and like Collective so on these bands,
and I was like, I love country music, but my
musical like kind of opened my musical world open. And
I joined the band in a high school and then
we went to college for a year, dropped out of college,
and then we traveled America in a fifteen passenger van
for a year and a half and then signed to
Capitol Records out of New York. So he was doing

(35:59):
the country thing, here was doing the pop rock thing.
And we just went to radio and tried to do
all that stuff, but that at that point in time,
we had never written a song together, but we were
doing a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Man, that's wild.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Did you do you feel like that that you separated
yourself from that just to kind of have a little
distance between what you did and what Bro did.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Are you kind of like that's just.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
I think musically I just craved like a little more,
like just a little broader. Yeah, I was like, I'm
not the trace Accins. I love that stuff, it just
wasn't my thing at that time, and I was We
got to tour with Collective Soul and all these bands. Yeah,
we did like two tours with them, and then good
Alls and everybody's great, but like, yeah, so I think
I had the emo. I had an emo heart like southern,

(36:44):
and so that kind of led itself into where, you know,
southern kind of pop rock, country alt a little bit.
And so yeah, that was a journey there and did
that whole thing, and that's when I met my wife
and Bro was like, you should come to Nashville, and
everything kind of aligned with me coming here.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
And I feel like Green Rear was kind of before
it's time.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Like I feel like.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Right now, sometimes I do go man, Yeah, it could
have worked.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
My band was the same way. I mean, we were
a funk country band and what was the name of
your band, so Gravy. I don't know if I've heard.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, we did the same.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's very stuff online.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, okay stuff, it's very uh it's our stories are
very similar in the way that uh, we loved Stevie
Wonder and we loved Hank Junior, you know what I mean.
So like our shows and even our songs and we
you know, we were cover band for a while, and
then we started implementing some uh originals and then before
you know, we had did we would just do full

(37:39):
ninety set or ninety minute sets of all originals and we.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Were touring southeast and doing that thing. And that's what
kind of brought me to town. But it's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
It's it's like it just wasn't uh radio at the time,
you know, it was a little cooler. Yeah, and I
remember we we to I mean, we we played the
same venues. Is like Brandley Gilbert and some of those
guys coming up, so I saw them from yeah, and
we didn't we didn't do that, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
But it's funny how all roads kind of all.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Kind of works, and it's all like schooling too. It's
like you're learning.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Oh I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, I mean, and I feel like you learn a
very important thing as a songwriter is like ultimately you
just need to be doing what those people in the
audience want you to do, and and and and finding
that language and how to communicate that, which I think
I'm pretty good better with those.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
People, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Yeah, that's good, so great check but they were great.
They did a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Oh yeah, they were big almost like made it as
big as.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
You could get without being a giant radio.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
And you learn too, just the economics of a band.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
It's wild.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
I have such appreciation now just to like not only
keep the personalities everybody remaining friends, which we all are,
but like and then you all get married separately, you know,
you marry, you're you're juggling those things and then finances
and all the things. It really was like wild, a
wild journey of school in so many different ways. But yeah,
super thankful for it. But yeah, we could play for

(39:12):
five hundred two thousand people. But by the time you're
out and you all the expenses and every tour you
get down and you're like, man, this is a lot
to sacrifice my banking on a radio song, and you're
just like and then I met my wife and I
was like, man, being home and writing songs sounds pretty nice.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
But you don't even back to Todd, back to what
we said earlier about my personal I was like, you know,
big and like just a mellow.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
But he was like super shy and so it's kind
of switchy swap.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I was like, painfully shy, but it's cool.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
It's like, you know, we play shows now, but it's
like over the years when Green over warden it started,
he would like, you know, be very you know, turned
around more or not, and then obviously just playing and
then he turns into like a total rock star and like,
you know, playing and so it's like the confidence over
you know, so it builds all that in you. But yeah,
I've mellowed a lot. Now you are about.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Yeah, probably kind of comes yeah, semi mellow. I'm probably
more than you.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Kids do that too, too, Yeah, how much you don't
many they beat you down to a poll, right, they.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Found all confidence down.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'll do whatever you say.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
These eggs are too scrambled, they're too soft, there's too
much pepper.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
The other day my son I made a magasine there's
pepper on.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
It, and he goes, Dad, oh god, eggs are bad.
It's like it's like in Ken Harley Wading beer's going bad.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
It was Charlie and I was like, oh, dude, they
were delists, perfectly colored.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I thought I nailed.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
I was like, dude, I'd give anything to come downstairs
and just fresh eggs, perfectly cinnamon roll.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I always think about my parents' eggs. Man, they're just
way over cooked in a corner for thirty minutes. Now
they can cook, I mean they can cook everything. But
you know, when you're trying to get out the door,
trying to get something up, and there was four.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Of us, man, I mean we were running crazy.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
Funny to think about.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
I think about my kids now and I go, man,
you don't think about it when you're a kid. But
just not a worry in the world.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Worry in.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
It just shows up now unbelievably there and you're like, there's.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Food, there's a just take it.

Speaker 9 (41:17):
Not food.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
There's your clothes, there's your shoes to go outside. There's
a water slide with cold water in it, just in
your backyard.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
One day.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
There's a place and when you're done with it, you
just go inside and change clothes and somehow it magically
cleans itself.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, all right, we've all experienced the road in here.
James and Rodgers shout out James, and I love that guy.
I wrote with him, uh yeah, yesterday before somewhere this week,
and he asked me a very interesting question, and I
want to pose it to y'all. I don't want any explanation,
I don't want any I just want you to say
a number and then we'll go to the next person. Okay,

(41:51):
I'll start with you that way you can understand it.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I know this question.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
He asked me the same question. He might have started
the question in all.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Right, but I know, go ahead, okay, you already have
the number.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, he shamed to me because he's like, Jank, your
numbers far too low.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
But I'm kind of added to it.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Okay, So if if who's the head person at a
label right now, just give me any one of them.
Chris Lacey calls and says, all right, read and this
is the same question for you.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Don't know, to go back all the road.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I want you.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I think the song is a hit one hundred days.
I want you to take it. I'm not sure it is,
but I think it is. I want you to go
on radio tour from now, which is the beginning end
of August, middle of August to the end of February.
Then you have you have March off, and then I

(42:43):
want you to tour from April to July, end of July,
and I'll lay a check for you, say the amount
for you to do that. And now current day you
got Kid's Wife podcast riding schedule to just completely go. Okay,

(43:05):
I'm going one more time hard as I can go
radio tour for four or five months, and then I'm
touring that song that set and he don't have to
be enough to be done, Like no, no, you can't.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Say any I don't want any explanation. I just want
you to say a.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Number ten million, Okay, wow, I feel.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Like that's low. What do you think, don't know?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Explanation pretty much a year, roughly a million.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
That's I was gonna say five million.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I have a lot of context, but obviously said just say.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
I'd be like baby, I'll see you want to see
five million? Yeah, dude, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Man, ten million can put it in a low risk stop.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
No, I get it, you know, be done. But I
kind of think I hate it that.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Much A think and back to your point, I think
the context of somebody who's listening that doesn't when you've
been on the road and you've done it and you're like,
it's like that's its own thing, but like yeah, this
you know again back to like being away from your
family and.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Because I have toured with my family at home and
I have been in a double deck or bus eating
a turkey sandwich at two thirty and London.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Question your life, question if you were questioning everything, if
you were single.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
You start putting parameters on it and it changes totally changes.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
And the question and the question is like single, that's it,
and the question of life and the question is like
money do you have in your bank?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
And this is only a year now? If you what
if you had to do it for ten years? There
are now we'll do it right now?

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Oh yeah ude more than that, yeah, and making way
less than any one.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
And you gotta love it. You got to be called
to it. I don't feel called to it. But man, yeah,
we have friends that sacrifice a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
When did you know you weren't called to it?

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Did you know?

Speaker 6 (44:51):
Early?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I know?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
I think, yeah, I wrestled. That's part of my journey
is like thinking like hey, I'm supposed to be going
to be George Straight, Like I got a record deal
at twenty did all stuff, wrote my songs and like
felt like every door my whole life open to be
an artist moved here and they got dropped. And then
years of like trying to get a record deal, songs
not working, going like hey, I'm gonna have to move

(45:13):
back home. It's over, and God, you know, just believing
enough like breadcrumbs to keep going.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Your faith? Was your faith as strong back then as
it is now? Like you did you pick up on this?

Speaker 5 (45:23):
THU?

Speaker 4 (45:23):
But a cool story is like and this is just
the goodness of God. I know you'll probably feel it too.
Is like years go by and just doors closed. But
I saw him put people in my life, you know,
other songwriters, an artist or whatever, and like Okay, you
get a cut, you get a hold, you get a
just doors open to like where I am now. But
it took probably late twenties just this wrestle up because

(45:43):
I think I struggled with like, hey, if I don't
pursue the radio thing, I'm not an artist anymore. And
I had to get to the point of like, no,
I'm an artist. I just don't want to do that anymore.
And it was just like freedom to go, Okay, I
don't I don't know. I met my wife, she got
pregnant with her first born, and somewhere in there, I
felt like I just lost the desire to be cause

(46:03):
and I think I have buddies that were doing it,
probably like y'all, and I'm like, I don't know if
I want to do that thing. Some people are called
to it. And a little God story here I will
never forget. But I wrestled for years, like God, why
I felt like I was called to this? And this
is my own personal story. But I was on a
boat and just cruising with my wife, and you know,
when you're driving, you're driving, nobody's talking, You're just going

(46:24):
fast enough. And I was talking to the Lord and
he literally said I was protecting you.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
And I go.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
I felt him say that to me, and I go,
and now it makes thank you. My wife has like
being able to have songs on the radio, get to
hang on my bro I get to be home ninety
five percent of the show time. I play more shows
than I know what to do with. I'm having to
say no, there's so many songwriter shows, and so I
feel like God has just placed both of us. You
always too, but in a place that's just so awesome
and sweet for my personality. I go, God, thank you.

(46:55):
But in the moment, I was angry, like pissed I
moved here. While you know, say so, I do think
there's times where I'm like, you probably feel that, like, man,
it would be so cool to be have song on
the radio and be playing Bridgestone, but really that wasn't
my I think that'd be cool tour and stuff, but
it does take a big sacrifice. So anyway, not to
go on a tangent about that, but I'm I think
we're both grateful that we being a songwriter is.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Really, I feel like that kind of happened to all
of us, like, and I mean, that's how it was
for me, man, I and I never hit the road
hard or anything, but it took like a couple of
weeks of being gone for me and I'd already fall
in love with with trying to chase an idea and
writing songs. But to see that, like, man, I don't
want I don't want this life for myself. And I
was I was single at the time, and I didn't

(47:37):
have any kids, and I knew then that this life
was not made for me, man, and God was just
pulling me in this other direction.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I just want to dive.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
I know we're already forty five minutes in, but I
want to dive because we rarely get the change time
we can roll. We rarely get the chance to really
pick apart songwriters, you know, because there's so much stuff
we usually have to get to as far as songs
being released or albums coming out like that when you
okay for the listener. These guys are lunch pel songwriters

(48:06):
like we are. They're trying to get cuts on other artists,
on on artists that they know, and they're friends with.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Me and Josh about to do it here and yeah, yeah,
in forty minutes, it's gonna be a couple of hands jealous, Yeah, Jacob, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
It's the prost of produce. I mean, good day myself,
but yeah, that's I'm jealous day that day. Who you
got today?

Speaker 4 (48:30):
You got anyway, like Pentagrass and Hitters.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Dude, Yeah, that's not a bad day either.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
No, No, I got uh the Stephano and Matt Rogers,
who I love fantastic.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
He's a great Let's do a song off at the
end of the day. We'll have to wait a few
months because we'll get the track.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, sing well, you only want to hear the demo, so.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Fools to turn a.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Knob knob jockey over there.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
My favorite thing is I'm making fun of track guys,
which you're not a track oh my gosh at all.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
And look they're what they do is tough too, we're all.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
He's a great songwriter who makes tracks.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
So yeah, very slow. He's a fast writer. That's no,
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
What I was trying to get to is.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
A little bit of vulnerability here, Red and I run
into this a lot of just lack of inspiration. And look, man,
we love our wives, we love our kids, we love
our lives. We have tons of things to draw from.
But when you hit that creative wall, which you guys
have been here ten twelve fifteen eighteen whatever years you've

(49:48):
been here, you inevitably have hit.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
The same wall that I'm talking about here.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
And I think a lot of people, a lot of
pursuance songwriters and artists that listen to this show run
into that, and I think it would be good to
address what are the moves that you make in order
to get through that creative block of just complete disinterest
to the point to where I mean, I think it's

(50:13):
crazy that guys like us who have had hits and
have had success still go And I speak personally for myself,
am I supposed to be doing this? Because there's so
much that comes with it. It's so much more than
just writing a song. And I don't mean to ask
answer my own question. I'm just saying personally, I deal
with that? Do you guys deal with that? And if

(50:34):
you do, how do you how do you cut through
that fall?

Speaker 5 (50:37):
You have an answer?

Speaker 4 (50:38):
But you know, and yeah, when you're a songwrit anybody
that pours out is like I heard, I think Alan
Shanmlin said this, but like to put you.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Guys love Alan Shanmlin. He how did he come into
yours life?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Real quick?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Friend?

Speaker 6 (50:50):
I knew him from back. I met him through Robin Palmer,
and I went to coffee with him forever ago. This
is probably it seems just like a second ago, and
he just kind of a little bit and then over
the years he's just been a beacon of like wisdom.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
And you come closer, y'all do coffee and breakfast.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Sorry you were so import.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Anybody, And you go, I think, yeah, you see somebody
that you go, hey, man, I want to do it
like he yeah, is that for us? For these guys,
You go, man, they've done it the right way.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And then I mean, honestly, yeah, there's a few of them.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yeah, there's a bunch.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Yeah, there's a bunch of them.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Nobody said something. And it's like when you pour out,
He's like, hey, putting pain on the page, it costs
you something, And you just don't realize, like until you
pour out. If you're trying to write songs that matter,
if you're trying to like, yep, it cost you something.
It does sacrificial you are pouring out, and so it's
like it is a thing of like, yeah, it is
a weird national is a weird town in the sense

(51:44):
of like where you know, maybe expected to write one
hundred hundred fifty songs a year, and so there's a
lot of pouring out, you know what I'm saying, And
so it's an interesting return without Yeah, so it's like
doing We'll see and bro have some thoughts to your
point of like how do you do this? How do
you do it healthy? What's it good? Everybody's rhythms different, Yeah,
and you got to make sure you're feeling up. But

(52:04):
it is like I took me a while to go, hey, man,
if you want to do this right? There is a
pouring out. How do you stay refreshed? And it's probably
normal for anybody that's creative to have little windows where
you go like I'm not any good or like I
ain't got nothing. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
So it is I ain't got nothing. That's been my
motto reason and.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
A lot of days you show up you ain't got nothing,
and you stumble on it, somebody says something or a converse.
So I've gotten better where it's just going, hey, if
I ain't got nothing, it's all good.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
God will show up in the room anyway.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
How do you were you saying just how do you know?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
What do you do when you're in the do you
feel the well?

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Man, how do you feel the well? I mean, I
got thoughts. But reading, I mean I would say I
go in seasons where I feel like that's really I
read more than others.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
But I feel like that seems like a but.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
You're in kid hurricane too, a hurricane there's not much
time to draw.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
I mean, when are you reading it?

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Three thirty am? And it is like we're both believers
as well, so there's a spiritual element of life.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
Being prayerful that God will provide ideas. Yeah, and also too,
it's like giving yourself one thing that I don't think
we are good at in this town, we songwriters. Just
the community builds a lot of emphasis on a song
a day. Yeah, it's very much quantity. And I do
think when you look at some of our heroes and
the songs we look up to, and you hear the
story behind the time it took to write them, I

(53:20):
think if anything, being tuned in and trying to be
prayerful also comes with a letter like how I always
pursue like peaceful productivity? How do you go about writing
songs in a way to begin? Like if we don't
get it by four doesn't mean that we did not one.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
We didn't do good work.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
We did great work, but maybe this idea takes three.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
Four or five times getting together and kind of trying
to approach what we do and less of a frantic
song of day, song to day, song to day, and
then everything's kind of moving and it's impossible to get
back on the calendar and trying to go, like how
do we slow ourselves down to know that God's got us?
We carry peace into the room and that we that
the old school ways, like we may not get an
idea till four pm, but you know what, like we'll

(53:59):
get well now we have some and write the next
time we're together. So kind of like when we got
together other day and finish.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
The song we started.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
It's just kind of carrying in helps me burn out less.
And also I think margin to not write every day
and listen to music and go for me, it's like
if I feel disconnected, but I go listen to like
you know, Cowboy and me I go, I feel like
it quickens my spirit to go, this is excellent. And
I feel the hairs on my arm stand up and

(54:26):
it kind of unlocks something in my heart to like
feel the tank when.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
I go like, what are my anchor songs that like
align me back to the why?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
You know, it's very well said. Does text us do
it for you?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Like going going back home and getting in the like
getting in the red dirt and just.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Talk, you know, talking to people and going around. That's
the thing.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
I think.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
One thing about songwriting, too is like remembering why we're
doing it. I think if it becomes just about a
radio song, I feel a little soulless in that. I
feel like it's hard for me as the ride I
am to be like, go write a hit. But if
you they tell me, go write a song for a
person in a scenario that like the perspective of people
hear these songs and bring them into their lives. They

(55:07):
sing to them, they ride to the school with their kids,
they do first dances with them, and you go. If that,
to me on a soul level, puts wind in my
cell to go, I want to write a song. But
if it's just about go chase the catchy tune that's
a hit, I think over periods of time, I just
don't have the goosto to do that. I care, As
Alan Shamblin says, I'm already bored with that. But if
you're talking about pouring your heart and soul into something,
like bro Jenks said, that costs you something, you're really

(55:29):
talking about writing something that.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Carries the presence of the Lord or carries purpose.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
I think that one that does cost you, and two
those are things that take time and patience and waiting,
but also they are the song. The return on investment
is it a number one? It's it's like I believe
in what I'm saying, and you can't write those every day.
But I feel like we've been fortunate enough to like
we do that with each other, like, hey, let's write
a song, Like let's be the song on the record.
It says something maybe we miss out on some singles,

(55:54):
but like we got to pour our belief into this
music because this music is for people, not.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Just of an Allen like the most loved today. But
he said this few years ago, and I'm like, this
should people. But he goes, Matt, he goes, you can
you can fish off the off the bank and catch
blue gill, catch perch all day. Yeah, but he goes
out in the deep, that's where the that's where the
marlin are. I'm fishing for Marlin, and it is the
thought of going to what kind of rider do you
want to be? And some days you write there's some

(56:20):
waves out there, there's some waves. Yeah, you get still
a man in the sea, and so there is you
might battle it for right.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
Yeah. Yeah, food on the table, have a little hot
sauce on.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
And somebody might have an idea that's a you know,
an up tempo hit that. But again, I think just
generally that's the stuff that feeds our soul and it's like, hey,
what kind of songs do you want to chase? So
anyway that for us, it's like, man, it's just more
life giving.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I've appreciated that, and I've known I've known Josh longer
than I've known Matt, and we've just recently started working
together writing songs. But it's the sun goes for you, man.
I've always appreciated that about y'all and you particularly just
because we're working harder and longer together. Is is that
I can get I can get that way, I can
get hit minded because hits with when you've got kids

(57:11):
and you got houses and pay yeah, they pay right,
and and that's that kind of feels like what gets
the ball down the field for me in this in
this music industry and in life feels like money you know,
and then have it success. But ever since I met you,
and and that has always been your your your songwriting
gospel I should say, is that like write something that matters,

(57:33):
Like what are we going to write today that matters?
Think different? You gotta have both, right.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Dads and daughters. That brought the people together, that brought
the lot of people.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I had to do it. I had to do it.
It's a great song song. But I have always.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Appreciated that of because you you know you you meet
all kinds of people in this town. And I feel
like from the jump it's always been that way with y'all, man,
And I find inspiration in that, Like even when I
see you on the calendar and oh for sure you
see Jenks.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
On there and you're like, oh, don't get us wrong,
me wrong. It's like I think the best writers it's
like the line of art and commerce or do both totally.
There's days where I'm like, you, boy, ain't trying to
write a four minute murder ballad waltz. So it's like, hey,
how do we do this where it sounds hiddie but
say something where people feel some or someone to.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
So it's like, man, it's so hard, but the best
writers like Bethird do both, Shane mcnellly, you know, oh
my gosh, but it sounds like it should be on
the radio. So it's like anyway, I feel like we
try to filter it through anyway as you boys do,
but we're not afraid to write a serious song.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
Some people might be like, I don't want to write that,
that's not going to be the single whatever, But I
like in our experience with Dirt, like if we were
to tried to write a radio single, we probably would
not have written the song the way we did or
the way the demo I did the demo. I did
the demo trying to like juice it up, and then
Paul and Is brilliant stripped everything back.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
But really did you realize you go.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Like, yeah, like listeners, was that your first Was that
your first hit together? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (59:11):
Yeah, And so I had called, bro, this's actually a
funny story, like year and a half before that, I
was like I've been here almost ten years and was like, bro,
I might have to pack it up, like songs are
getting cut, but no singles my way, we have a
kiddo making nothing.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I got responsibility here.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Yeah, And I was like, dude, this is this song
or anything going to pan.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Out making nothing? And I want people to understand that
if if you're a songwriter, that is that is not
having songs on the radio and never had a song
on the radio. It is it is hard to make
a living in this town. I don't see how people
do it right now.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
That's one of the whole conversation in itself, is the
loss of the middle class songwriter because the way that
we get paid is not That's the whole thing itself.
Like any industry that loses the middle class, the blue
collar inability to take care of them, it really suffers
the ego. Whole ecosystem falls apart, and that's where we are.
It's feast or famine. So I was in more than
the fan and zone. Brother Jink had already had enough

(01:00:03):
to know you got some beans in the fridge, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
It was this beautiful season where I felt like from
you personally, it was the most surrendered I had been
with music. I was like, God, if this is yours,
and if something happens, happens, if not like lead me elsewhere.
And then in a year Fancy like happened and then Dirt,
you know, and we were like we knew Dirt before.
Dirt was like we had written Dirt before, and so
that was like we were like, this is gonna be
the single, This is gonna be our first song together.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
And Fancy came out and did what it did.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
But like Bro Jink, the way we normally do it
is we just vamp on ideas and so we'll like
we call it wood shedding, and so we know we've obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Loved the Davis Bros.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Written with him a ton, but like we will just
wood shed on day as we've done it with Jacob
and Jordan just all over the thing. And we're going
out to this cabin and Bro had the idea about
dirt and he was like, I think this could be cool.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Why just have the phrase somebody title by dirt they
ain't making any more of it, which ended up being
the Bridge. But you know, Jordan was like, man, I
want to write a song. He had an idea that
was not crazy far off about his you know, land
and farm stuff and from his grandfather, and I go,

(01:01:10):
I have an idea around that and so you know, again,
what's cool about that retreat is like you've had those
boys on. I meant there about faith and family and
sure similar things as you guys. Yeah, as you guys.
That's why we connect. We all so much about things that.
So we were outside were this morning, we were like
literally having We're just talking and and that that idea

(01:01:31):
comes out and it's like we wrote probably five or
six songs that retreat, maybe four, and you know there's
a couple others that you go, that's again back to
your point, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
The temple, that's the bang or that's the it's just funny.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
I wish we wrote that one again. But again it's
just a testament to Jordan. It's like we wrote that's
something in Jacob. We just wrote something that we all
connected with and that felt real and it's funny to
come back and then Jordan be like, hey, that was
the one, and that's just Jordan has a right and
eight songs sense he really does unbelievable and we've written
some of them that I'm like, this is going to

(01:02:04):
be and he just doesn't but that he but he
knows which ones like a true artist and so but
he we were hanging out and he goes, I think
I'm gonna ask Luke Bryan to sing on that, jump
on that with us, please ask.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
About to god, that sounds like a single.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
It's perfect, man, I mean it makes so much sense,
but it's sing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
You've had a work table while back.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
He sent it to me of like us working on
so weird to listen in retrospect, like us working us.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Are singing and yeah, like the parts that you trim
and how everything fell into place.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
And yeah, so but George, yeah, but to your point earlier,
like Jordan's or Luke jumped on it, and so brother
did a demo and it was more up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
I was gassing this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
It was almost like a sing single. It was almost
like just got some chunk to it. It's not like
we can be on the boat and listen. And then
we heard we heard Jordan's version and it was stripped,
stripped it all back. So initially we were like, sounds amazing,
but it took a minute to kind of cleanse that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
But then you just fell in love with like what
it was. Do you do a verse course for us
to put you on the spot. You want this as
you want to go one or two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
It's up to you. You want this now, bro, you
with that one?

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
You have this view? I mean sure, why not? Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
This is kind there? Oh shoot out? Okay, but I
played in Okay. Just give us a little Jkins interpretation
of this, Megan.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
I'll do the You do the loke.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Louke Parker what sure?

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
A few days before he turned eight, we was sitting
there back in the rocker said what you've been up
to lately?

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
And toting chasing a dollar? And in between sieves and coffee,
he pulled this and.

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
Wisdom math sed, if you want my two cents making
a dollar count.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Byr fu the one you can't live with, get her in.

Speaker 8 (01:04:03):
Let you need the girl, do what you love and
call and work.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Throw a little money in the plane at church.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
Send your prayers up in your roots down dde add
a few limpsee a fairy tree, watch their pencil mocks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
And the grass in the yard all grow up.

Speaker 8 (01:04:22):
Because the truth about it is, it all goes by
real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
You can't buy happy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
You can buyer, brother Jak of the little coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Before you get caught on that ladder, let me tell
you what it's all about. Find you a few things
that matter that you can put a fence around, and
then you lead it out by dude, find the one
you can't live with, get her in, Let you ground, do.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
What you love calling word, Throw a little money.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
In the playff shirt. Send your prayers up, vin your
rooms down, add a few lambs to your family tree,
watch their pens and marks in the grass in the
all girl up. Because the truth of baddies, it all
goes by real quick. You can't buy happy bad dude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Gez. How special is that song now for y'all?

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Oh dude, it's so many layers.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
It's so deep because it's about our grandpa's and I
know the David spros that their love for the heritage
that they come from and us. And then to do
it with my bro outside of my wife, my best
friend in the world, and tell my dad our dad
came to the NSA Awards with my mom and got
to sit like fifth row and sing it at the

(01:06:01):
operation the Song of the Year the same year when
the CMA Song of the Year, and just to share
it with the Davis Bros. We've loved them and we've
known them each in their own way. We knew Jacob
obviously when Jacob was doing I knew Jacob for Jordan
and just like our love for them as people and
his brothers and so to share it with them, just
the layers of the song and then the meaning of
the song and the purposes, like when somebody comes up

(01:06:23):
and they're like, man, that was my grandpa's song or
my dad's song.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Yeah, I'm like human, you guys feel that the human
thing that you feel people you don't know somewhere you
go play and they go, man, that that was our
song or whatever, and you're like, that was our family
song or whatever. It's like that is the coolest thing
about our job is the human like you know, the
you don't realize it, but the platform to write songs

(01:06:48):
and you go on you know, it's like by dirt
music video I did it when the song was and
you see pages of titles and like this, you know
or whatever, and you just feel the human ripple effect
our songs yeah out into like the world is like, man,
it's really powerful. And so it's like to me, to us,
that's really especial when you go, man, I want to
I want to do it again, even and that even feeds. Okay,

(01:07:11):
let's chase those songs even more, and we may miss
more because.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I miss more. And that's because like, like our story,
Matt's story is matt story, Josh, the story is our story,
the same for us, but like we bear similar stories
to the rest of the world. That's right, and so
to be able to when you write about your story, yeah,
you're writing about yourself and your granddad and your granddad's farm,
but like you're also writing about Joe's granddad and granddad's

(01:07:35):
farm that you know he bought when he was little
and now was passing through the generation. So like I
find that too, is like being able, and it's hard
to it's hard to get there, but like, like realizing
that you're speaking for other people in the room and
not just yourself is a very that's a big you know,
it's a big weight as well as a like it's
a fulfilling weight as well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny you talk about like the way
your song was affecting people. One of the things that
we were saying when when Reed and I and Luke
wrote the kind of Love we Make with our buddy,
Jamie Jordan's shying my wife and the cole we're all pregnant.

Speaker 9 (01:08:11):
Oh wow, and it's kind of a good time. We
have a picture of them all. So like the comments
on ours was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Oh, I love this song. We've got a kid on the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Way, you know what I mean, that's right, but it's
it's like special, two completely different songs. But like winning
the World Series with your with your you know, like
like like getting to Everest with your dude, you know,
like that's crazy and and and that's something that like,
you know, back when you're little, you never imagine that. Yeah,

(01:08:47):
you imagine doing things with your brother and your whole
life and you know, hoping to to stay connected. But
like being like, I just think about your dad sitting
there watching I mean, he's watching his boys fulfill one
of his dreams, probably as well as beyond any dream
that he probably ever had for y'all, you know. I mean,
that's God, how special is Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
And I took my hat to the to the craft
a little bit that I don't know that there's anything
else that you can do, like and put into the world. Okay,
for example, if I go when if I play for
the Giants and we win a championship, well, the next
year there's another championship. But the next thing, I mean,

(01:09:28):
this is the thing that y'all got to share, that
we got to share, that we created together, and is
kind of eternal, Like that song could be played as
long as someone is listening to it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
You know, it's a cool start to interrupt you. And
I literally started talking. I literally thought this. I heard
this a while a year ago, and I go, wow,
do you know sound waves never end?

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
They ripple out?

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
And so music, these songs, what you're saying to they
are eternal, They ripple out into you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
You're talking about literally literally.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
What you create.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
And it's like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
It's like the god stuff where it changes under a
microscope when you it's like a beautiful sound, and so
it's like rip. These are like, I don't know, to
your point, it's like, man, not of the eternal, but
they they are literally going on. That song we just
played is echoing out into it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
To think about it, and always I always think about
like things that I brag on my granddad's about right,
both of them have passed, and I think about, oh man,
you remember that story used to tell about the two
ducks running together?

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Ah man, you remember that story used to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Tell and I think it's I think like this a lot,
and it's kind of a blessing and a curse at
the same time. But I think about like Griffin's kids,
or Liza's kids, or Boons kids or Oaks kids going. Man,
you know what's really cool is them two jokers got
together and had a hit back in the day and
they got to watch it go together.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
That is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Can you imagine your grand can that's pretty It's pretty
neat man, all that just say, it's it's a it's
an incredible accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Y'all are incredible writers. Beautiful so beautiful song spoke spoke.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
To me like crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
I'm just I know it did the rest of the
entire world, and you have you'll have tons of those.
But man, the town loves you, town loves you, the
business loves you. Yeah, you make it better, writers make
it better for We love you, and we just appreciate
your your honesty and your dedication to writing the song
that the room and that God has given you that

(01:11:19):
day instead of just chasing because it's easy to chase,
you know, So thanks for doing that. Keep doing that,
all right, and also thanks for coming on. We're not
necessarily done, but absolutely got to wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
It's one on nine. These guys got big rights.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I know, Uh can you do a grief?

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
It?

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Can? You?

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
You got like a cover that you that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
You ll together.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
I wouldn't hate. I wouldn't hate one apiece, honestly showing
y'all both off. Y'all are both really great. So if
it's together, it's together. If it's not, do something else.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
What are you you're gonna hit them with? Like is
money to be country or doesn't do whatever you want
to do? One of my favorite yeah jumps. See, I'm
trying to think that I got a couple here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
You can also we can also stranding your eye.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Color them wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
This was the first song that let me out of country.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Stranding your Edwin.

Speaker 8 (01:12:18):
Color wonder full Stop Me Still Libbrary, Emerald Emeralds in Mountains,
thrust all the sky, never.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Revealing, They say, weaving on together.

Speaker 8 (01:12:43):
Do get up to the champions of love being captivated.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
On your list stand.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Let's stop.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Here's the chorse.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
I your crime shoulder, I don't be love.

Speaker 8 (01:13:06):
Suicide be betterin the molder, Ah be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Grace Fanny.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
Killing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
That was one of the first ones I was like
blast songs like this. Shoot, when was that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Oh five, I was like fifteen or was it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
I forel like I was fifteen or you were fifteen?

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
And what year that come out? That was?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
That was two thousand, two thousand maybe.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Early yeah, two thousands round and I was just like
emo hartro and then I song.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Moved That song move was also fet like you know
all the.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Scrab do yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
Do it? The match box?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Oh don't do She says cold house hops.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
Yeah, she says cold outside and she hands me a wreck?
Do you always worried about things like that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
I got so many phone members and kiss girls at
us camp on Edwin came, I mean that was that
was the you bring out ed one on the beach.
It's that may make some babies to I mean I
wasn't doing that at fourteen, but I was definitely doing
You're punching kids, Yeah, you got punching.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
I can't stand packed.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
Shoot, what do you think like a little George little
James Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
You go, I just think it will excuse me? But
I think you got mine. No, that's not take you
can I don't man, if you said he I'll be
glad ship Uly packed to your own Friday night.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Oh, if you don't mind, could I talk you and
a lad? I'll just get to the chorus.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
Y'all sing with me.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
The name of a band. Bday good ant they would
you like to dance?

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
I like this something too. It reminds me you b baby.
Don't you think there's a chance And maybe later on
I could drive you home. No, I don't mind, Dad. Oh,
I like you too. But to tell you the truth

(01:15:46):
that was in my chair after all, may give it up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
We's got jinked, he's got double joy a harmony. Hey man, Yeah,
just to read, to really reiterate what Dan said.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
We love y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
The town loves you, man. Thank you for your craft.
Thank you for your heart man, and what you stand for,
what you're right about.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Uh yeah, we love y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
This is special what y'all are doing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
And thank you y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
The heart and y'all are awesome. Dude, it's so funny
and uh yeah, I love create with you. But this
is cool and I know this thing is blowing up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Thank you. We'll do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Well, we know, y'all we came for the Covis.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Boom boom two sets to a little double pair of
of Covis coming.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Yeah, we know that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Only reason you can manoul.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
That guitar plays good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Bro's Thanks man, Thanks, you're welcome. Yeah, thanks for hanging
out in Guy's country.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Go check out the Jenkins Bros. The song You probably
already love them.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Tons of hits.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Yep, we'll check you'll next time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Peace Ne

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