Ep- 1. NFL is back, why we need to ban gender reveals, and rules for dating your friend’s ex.

NFL is back, why we need to ban gender reveals, and rules for dating your friend’s ex.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of
I Heart Radio. Who's all here, Let's jump right into it.
Let's get started with I think this will be the

(00:20):
new way we start the show. What type of Joel
are we getting today? But what this episode? Are we getting?
Positive Joe? Negative Joe? Somewhere in the middle? What what's happening?
I'm feeling okay, I'm a long weekend. I'm a little tired,
but I'm feeling I'm feeling feeling good. Dean, thanks, we're
not the beard kind of beard going on? It looks good.

(00:45):
Trying to be like Dean, I like it. Yeah, you know,
which is which is very timely because you we didn't
have like six months of quarantine where you could have
grown a beard. Now we're getting ready to go back
to work and you you grow a beard. But cool, true,
this is true, no beer, no beard for six months.
Now is the time. It was the time to do it. Hey,

(01:05):
it's getting cold called out. It's only shut up. Scott
is Scott is very he's very climate corean because I'm
in Santa Monica. Scott's Eastern Eugle Rock and he's always
very cognizant of the difference in temperature from Santa Monica

(01:29):
to kisses me off when I see it's twenty five
degrees cooler, easically twenty degrees cooler in Santa Monica still
was still warm, though it was warm over the weekend.
You know it was up, you know, But you guys
don't know like I love. I know, Travis, You're not
in native californian um, but still Wyoming, I don't think

(01:52):
has the type of humidity that the East Coast has. Yeah,
it's just dry, and you get like a New York
Manhattan summer in August, when it feels literally feels like
you're walking into a song um with a humidity in
ninety five degrees. It's brutal. I hear. The smells are

(02:13):
great too. You turned down certain corners when it's trash
day and it's literally like baked trash, like baking in
the sun, and you turn a corner and you get
a whiff of that. It's just it's a very it's
a very indigenous smell to New York City. It's it's
I've never smelled it anywhere else. I've never smelled hot

(02:34):
tress anywhere else in the world like that, and you
turn that corner and you get that with and it's
we got a bottle that smell up the subways. I
can't imagine having to just do that for you form
a subway platform on a on an August day, it's
a song like you are you are sweating, And then

(02:57):
if you get into a subway car about a c
it's one of the it's almost uncomfortable, like obviously, yeah,
are you sure are making me miss New York? Well, yeah,
some of those platforms are over a hundred years old,
so it's not like they had like built in vent
great ventilation system here. So it's just disgusting. So when

(03:20):
we have this amazing, um you know, dry, temperate weather,
I don't want to hear any complaints about well, you
know what, it was like a hundred sixteen degrees at
my place and there was ash coming down because of
the gender reveal fire. So I sorry, I wasn't having
a great week Labor Day weekend. Somebody had to know

(03:42):
if the girl what was the gender reveal? Talk to
me about the gender reveal fire because of a gender reveal. Yeah,
some pyrotechnics they had up in mammoth. I believe. It
was like, yes, yes, So there's a fire now in
San Bernardino County, like in the mountains because a gender
And this is here's the crazy thing is is this
is not the first forest fire that was started because

(04:05):
of some gender reveal explosion. There was one in Arizona. Uh,
they've been plane crashes because the guy was dumping stuff.
And it's the dumbest thing in the world. It's it's
so dumb what we're putting people and property and and

(04:25):
everyone else risks because we want to show the world
or our closest friends. But where the boy or a girl?
What happened to just like here's a balloon that says
boy or whatever? Did you guys find or even the
original just the cake with the inside has it's pink
or blue? Anything? Well you go and get you you

(04:47):
go at whatever it is eighteen weeks or whatever it is,
and you find out what the what the sex is
and then when people last, did you do you guys
want to know? So, yeah, we found out what is
it's boy? That's that was me and and then you
maybe get the print out of the um uh not
that I forgot that. We got the you know, the

(05:08):
ultrasound and the ultrasound yeah, little venus and you know, um, yes,
well because people are dying. I mean, first of all
because of lots of but like there was that Iowa
one where they were trying to make like an explosion
where like powder comes out and they basically built a
pipe bomb and it killed a Lady's insane. It's just

(05:30):
everybody has what they like to do. Oh I've got
a basketball slam dunkey exactly like if it was you, Dean,
you'd have to throw like a flag and it would
explode in the air and pink or blue or whatever.
Oh that's a smart idea. Joe, Joe, how did you
find out about yours? Did you do Jenner reveal with
your two kids? Might worry? I found out Actually, my

(05:59):
my daughter, my child, we didn't find out until she
popped out of the wife and then my son. Um
my just traditional. My wife found out and she had
my daughter right on a shirt like it's a boy.
And then my daughter came in and showed it to
me and I was like, oh yeah, everybody cried and
it was great. Yeah yeah, and you know, I am

(06:19):
I am often we're unfortunately the youth voice on this podcast.
But even I'm blaming social media. People are trying to
make a big event, they're trying to be cool. It's
just like who cares. Don't start for viduality, And like
I want to go back to like the freaking sevent

(06:42):
hundred sixteen hundreds when they didn't even name the kid
until he or she was two years old because they
weren't sure I was going to survive. And now we're
doing like it's like we have to one up each
other on social media every day. And I think it
was in Minnesota. It was Innneapolis wedding, the wedding dance,

(07:02):
Remember the wedding dance? Yes, yes, yes, XAP became such
a thing and it was funny because it was like
they even made fun of it on the Office as
just say that was the Office parody, the Office parody.
But when that video came out, and it wasn't the
first time people had done that before, like at weddings,
but it was the first time, like I remember on

(07:23):
social media going viral and then it became like this thing.
It was like people trying to one out and it's
like you know what it's it's actually you see it
like in all sorts of things because you'll see on
social media even like how kids ask each other to
prom or or or how people propose. I mean there

(07:46):
was I mean, okay, this was before the podcast started,
but Dean was getting on me for texting the group
too many negative stories. But there was that story from
a couple of years ago where the guy like they
were at like a resort where their hotel room was
like underwater, like the window is like at the water,
and he went to propose to her outside the window

(08:09):
like he's diving and he's like, will you marry me?
And he drowned doing that. It's off. Did she say yes? Yes? Well,
let me tell you something. He lucked out. You shouldn't
do anything that puts your life at risk for a proposal,

(08:30):
for a prom for a gender reveal, yourself or others
at risk. Did you see what David Blaine did this week? Oh? Yeah,
yeah I didn't. He Uh he like flew up feet
by holding on the dozens and dozens of balloons. Yeah,

(08:50):
he basically did a balloon. Boy, That's that's actually pretty
funny because I always, like, you want to always wonder
if that would be the case, Like how many balloons
would it take to sweep away a little kid? Also
though I like how he's like a sensibly a magician,
but a lot of the things he does are just like,
wouldn't it be crazy if I did this? Yeah? There
they become like he's become like a stunt man. I'm

(09:12):
gonna stand on this pool for seventy two hours. Remember
that one he just stood on a pole. Wasn't that
in like Central Park or something? You guys done. Didn't
Brett Farve do something this week? Crazy too? Scott? Yeah,
he sent me a lot of pictures. I did not
approve of them. There. Well, there was some picture where
he's like, I don't know he's endorsed. I think it

(09:33):
was like a CBD oil like he's bred. Farv done
because he does he does the Wrangler and he did
the copper like the coppfit copperfit. Yeah. Um, I'm pretty
sure there was one other. Obviously he's made. He's made
like cameos and movies. Yeah, if you google Brett Farve

(09:54):
cb D, he has bleach blonde hair just like Eminem
from two thousand one. Yeah, I just looked it up.
It looks pretty bad. It looks like me freshman year
of college. I was just gonna say that, well, you're
still Travis. If you haven't noticed, yeah, google Breakfast cb

(10:16):
D and you'll see that he's got put a breath
farm hair. Well, the gun slingers out doing his best.
He's endorsing CBD. I guess he was addicted to like
getting or something. So yeah, that's a huge story story.
Look at that hair, I mean, oh yeah, that hair
is crazy. He looks like you know sometimes when like

(10:37):
a UFC fighter will just for a fight, just bleach
their hair blonde. Like I thought. He looked good with
the salton pepper you know. You know today I was
a blonde at one point. They really do have more fun.
I was gonna say, did you have more fun? All right?
What's what's so has more fun than anybody? Though? It on?

(11:00):
In the world of NFL. What what? What's happening? We
are on the verge of actual NFL football Professional football
starts this week because it came in two days, it
seems crazy. Um, what you know? And here's the deal, right,
So everything has been from a testing and screening standpoint,

(11:21):
everything has been extremely positive. Well, I think the big
test now is that now you have these traveling parties.
You know upwards of a hundred people that are going
to travel. They're gonna stay in hotels. You know there
are there are what's the word I'm looking for, um, distractions,
Temptations are on the road, entanglements. What's that? Entanglements? Yeah,

(11:50):
you want to get even more um Yeah, like all
the new fast food restaurants that you know, you're from
New York, you don't get to have in and out
exactly if you go to Atlanta, you want to get
the wings from you know, from the strip club. But
it's this is gonna be I think the first big test,
and um, you know, we'll see how it goes. I think,

(12:11):
I know we all talk about, um, you know, can
they get a full season? And who knows? But I
know every week that goes by without something major happening,
I know I'll feel better. Um. But kind of what
what's gonna look different this year? Um? From an NFL perspective,
Obviously you're gonna have either no fans or um less

(12:33):
than capacity in in every stadium. So that's gonna be
the first thing. You're gonna have much limited. I think
your sidelines. You're gonna see an NFL sideline you have
in addition to your your your players, your coaching status,
of medical, your trainers. Um, there's photographers, there's other just
other people that have credentials. That's gonna be streamlined. Um,

(12:56):
you're gonna have limits to the number of people that
you can have in your bench area. Um, so all
of those things. Uh, no cheerleaders, right, no mascots from
a TV perspective, No sideline reporters. I know we we
were on a call, and there's gonna be for certain games. Um,
there's there's an area behind the bench, but it is
in the stands that is going to be UM set

(13:19):
aside for sideline reporter and maybe some other some other
working essential personnel. But the sideline reporter won't be able
to go back and forth along the sideline and talk
to you know, talk to whoever. It's gonna look and
feel different typed in artificial noise both from the NFL
in the stadium and each each network. Um, the network

(13:41):
is gonna have noise that we'll just go over the broadcast.
So it's gonna be Um, I think that's gonna be interesting,
and uh, you know, then we'll have all the social distancing, right,
officials wearing masks using electronic whistles. Um, I think you're
gonna see less Crewe conferences, uh, things like that, even
to the point where the NFL officials, what they're telling

(14:04):
NFL officials is if there is a type of an altercation,
a scuffle, they don't want those officials if it starts
to escalate, to be as hands on as normal and
to actually physically, you know, get involved. So you may
see officials not getting you know, involved as much, and uh,
and that would be you know, who knows what that

(14:26):
could lead to. So so there's definitely gonna be some
differences this year. It's gonna look different, feel different. Um,
But I think the games themselves from a strategy and
excitement and all that. Obviously without the crowd, I think
that's gonna be different. But I don't think the game
changes all that much. Right, They're still gonna be running
and tackling and passing and doing all those good things.

(14:47):
So I still have Page Tran film crews hiding in
different parts of the stadium. Yeah, I mean, I think
it's harder now for the Patriots to do that with
less people around, but that's true, you know. And then
Travis and you were you were talking about the daily
COVID testing protocol. So they the league is gonna test daily,

(15:10):
um to start the sea season, except on game days.
Except on game days. So what's the reasoning behind not
game day? Great question, let's just not know, just a case. Yeah,
I don't you know. I think Look, the bottom line
is testing on game day really if if somebody it doesn't,

(15:35):
it doesn't. You don't know. I'm like, I'm trying to
I'm trying to justify this for the NFL, and I can't.
But you could. You could test on Saturday, right and
still it's still be in the incubation period and then
it kicks out, so you could I mean, you could
have it doesn't matter when you get tested. You could

(15:56):
have a COVID and it doesn't show up. Um. So
I don't know if that has something to do with it. UM.
Well that The only other thing that's interesting is, like
you just said, the officials like, oh, maybe they're not
gonna get too involved necessarily. It's a little bit like
once the game starts and you're all in the stadium

(16:17):
in in my opinion, it's like who cares. It's like
you've already been tested. It's weird to be like, hey,
like I'm gonna be on the field. People are getting
tackled like normal people are yelling with excitement after make
a play, but this one instance, we won't shake hands
after the coin toss or something, you know what I mean.

(16:38):
It's kind of like we're already here, we're doing it.
Who really cares? Yeah, because because you know, you're almost
like you're in that bubble for that time being, and
everybody is being screened and cleared to enter that bubble um.
But yeah, what you do again? The whole free to
five day incubation period kind message with that, because yeah, no,

(17:02):
it does, it does, but you know, you're just it's
the full exposure. It's like, uh, this is a terrible
analogy that I just thought of. But it's like getting
freaked out that the crack pipe you're about to use
could be dirty. That's actually a great analogy stuff. It's like, yeah,
are you worth the needle you're about to stick in

(17:24):
your arm? You know, to to to inject that herald
in your vein? You know, do you really care at
that point? Well, yeah, where that needle has been. What
we're saying is the NFL like smoking crack nepetite is
see your biggest thing, you're you're strung out, you know,

(17:44):
you know, passed down on the side of the other
side of the street, like Santa problems. Yeah, well, we'll
make sure to pass that note to Joe Buck and
see if he works that into the broadcast. Oh yeah,
please do. I'll make sure I mark this one explicit.
By the way, this is our one year anniversary of
the Guys. So yeah, congratulations episode fifty one and we

(18:06):
did miss I think we missed one or two of course. Wow,
that's great, Joe, thanks to um We started the ninth
last year, so yeah about that. Well, thank you to
I Heart Radio. We're still looking for more sponsors if

(18:28):
you're out there, Yeah, we're in. Just just play that
piece about the crack pipe and the heroin needles and
then I don't get sponsor anyone, doesn't matter. That's you
mentioned the coin test. There's only gonna be one person
from each team and they have to wear a mask
anything very yeah, seem in college we'll talk about the

(18:49):
college football dean. Did you see this note in that
Kevin Seffort article from ESPN about if someone gets it,
they'll be on a charter plane back home by themselves,
and that by them selves, you know anything any other
details on that they have. They have the COVID bro
if a player gets it, yeah, UM, I I don't
know about that. I don't know what the you know,

(19:11):
because I know the issues with the officials are. If
an official test positive, the officials are gonna get tested. Um,
if they're if they're working the Thursday night game, they'll
get tested at home Monday and then and then when
they get in on Wednesday, UM, they'll get tested. And
then if they're working a Sunday game, they're all gonna
get tested at home on Wednesday and then Saturday, Monday

(19:32):
game they'll work. They'll get Thursday and on Sunday the
day test positive at the game site. Um, there supposed
to quarantine. So they're not supposed to get on a
commercial flight, so either they drive back to wherever they are.
That's why they're trying to keep those assignments more regional,
m because they don't want topics to somebody getting a

(19:56):
commercial flight. But I have just I mean, I'd be
hard pressed to imagine one player getting a charter flight
on his own back I mean that's a pretty sense
of um, but maybe there are arrangements for that player. Yeah.
The note the note in this article was the league

(20:17):
as as contracted with the Charter airline to fly them
home separately from the rest of the team. Player more team.
So maybe it's like net Jets or something like that, UM,
where it's a a Mega bus, the Maddened bus, the
Madden Cruiser. Oh yeah, bringing uh, you know what's it?

(20:39):
What is different though the roster sizes, all right, we
just had the roster cuts too. UM teams went down
from eighties to three. But what's different this year is
going to be the practice squad. And the practice squad
is interesting because I'm not sure, um, you know how
much people understanding about the practice squad because some of
these rules are complicated. Prior to COVID, the league and

(21:02):
the union, the players Union, did agree to to increase
the number of players on the practice squad. It had
been ten. He was supposed to go to twelve in
UM and then fourteen I think by two, But obviously
with COVID and the concern for players testing positive day,
it's gonna be a sixteen player practice squad with six

(21:23):
a max of six of those players with no restrictions. Normally,
the practice quad you're talking about players with less than
two two or less accrued seasons accrued season as you're
on the active roster for six or more games. UM.
So most of your practice squad players are rookies with
no accrued season or players with two or less UM.

(21:43):
But this year you're gonna have six players that are
no restrictions, so veteran players, um, that are on the
practice squad. You can a how much do you think
a a practice squad player makes an idea to eat salary? Well,

(22:04):
I think I cheated. I saw how much of course
you did? Read ten ten grand a week. So the players,
the players with with two or less accrued seasons, will
make eight a week. And then the players they the
kind of the non restricted right the veterans, they'll make

(22:26):
twelve grand a week. Um. Josh mccowns of UM. Now,
the thing with the practice squad is you're not you're
not on the active roster, but you can move to
the active roster. In the past, if you brought a
player up to the active roster, you had to basically
avoid his practice squad deal and give him one seventeen

(22:52):
of the minimum salary for a player of his years
of service, So you have to basically give him an
NFL salary for that week. Um. This year. What's different
is you can move a player from the practice squad
to the active roster and back to the practice squad
without giving him that salary. But you can do it
in max I believe of twice with the same player

(23:15):
in one season. UM. So it gives you that flexibility.
You can go from fifty three UM. You can bring
one or two players up and then move them back down,
but at a at a max of twice UM for
the same player. And the other thing is you can't
you can't sign a player from another team's practice squad

(23:35):
if you don't bring him onto the active roster. So
you can't just poach players from practice squads to move
to your practice squad. That's consistent with the past two though, right,
not consistent with the past yet exactly. Um So, so
I think those are gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
And then you have right, then you have the one
offs like Josh McCown. Who this guy, I mean talk

(23:56):
about a career like this guy was retired? What is
you get last year and the Eagles brought him back. Um,
but he's gonna be basically a emergency quarterback on the
practice squad and in a bubble for and basically in
quarantine and um, you know from home. And if they
do have an outbreak in the quarterbacks room, then they

(24:18):
can bring the Count in um to uh you know,
the active roster. But I think there are gonna be
some other teams that may keep an emergency quarterback on
the practice squad in a quarantine type situation. But that's
gonna be that's gonna be, uh, Josh the Count's deal.
And obviously you know he's a veteran, he's been around forever.
He did have five pass attempts last year. He did

(24:39):
have five past attempts last year. But look, hey, they
look because right because what what what is the Eagles
depth chart you have? You have Carson Wentz, Who's who's
been injured? Right he hasn't? And then what Jalen Hurts
and who's there who's felt one the backup job over Hurts.
That just shows you what the no off season FORRK

(24:59):
he's does because I could supposed to be a stud
and he can't beat out another guy who's played in
the league for a few years, because no offseason, it
has to be my mind potentially. Yeah, got didn't really
agree with you there. I mean you see this stuff too,
where like the Navy. Navy got blown out last night

(25:19):
against B y U and they were saying like, well,
they didn't get to any get to do any live
tackling drills and stuff, and it's like, alright, like that's
not why you guys lost that. Dad, let's speak of
break and we'll talk about that. Well, college as well,

(26:00):
we bashing one of our one of the branches of
our Arms service um, the Naval Academy, about their lack
of tackling and just basically football acumen um the other
night against U B y U. So, Scott, why don't
you elaborate on that for for everyone? Well, just there

(26:20):
was some there was a little bit of a hubbub
about them not being prepared, and there was talk I
don't even know specifically where it was coming from, but
just how like, hey, these teams can't do live tackle
drills because of COVID or something, even though lots of
teams now have instituted the practice of just no contact practices. Uh,

(26:46):
for the most part um and it just it was
basically just b y U is bigger, like physically, they're
older than a lot of the Navy team I think
also and uh, you know it's it's just uh big debacle,
maybe got dominated. If you can't contact them, you can't
have these hitting drills, Like why are you and playing

(27:08):
well in the first place. A lot of other schools
have have canceled the season and no, no no, but this
is predating COVID just like of like there's very little
if a none contact during like their walk through practices
because it's like why risk injuring each other. Look, that's

(27:29):
been the case for years now that that they practice
practices have evolved in a way where there's no longer
no longer doing too some of these drills that you know,
the Oklahoma drill and these other drills, these are out
and in this in this in this day and age,
with what we know about head injuries and and everything else,

(27:51):
just the mechanics of it, You're you're trying to um
basically preserve these you know, these athletes for the games.
And if you're gonna beat the crap out of each
other in practice, that's that's gonna lead to injuries and
and you're not gonna be able to play games. And uh,
you know, to quote Alan Iverson talking about practice, Okay,

(28:13):
I'm talking about practice and um starting even pre COVID
that has been and I've heard that from coaches for
it for a long time now, that they don't have
enough time with their players, they don't have enough padded practices.
But that's the reality. And it isn't gonna get it
isn't gonna go back to the way it was, UM.
And I think what we're gonna see and we're seeing

(28:34):
it with college football and we're gonna see it with
the NFL. You know, it's going to be sloppy. It's
gonna be sloppy from a playing perspective, it's going to
be um from an officiating perspective because you just you
haven't had the the preseason. You haven't had that opportunity,
especially for these younger players. Um, So there's gonna be

(28:56):
a transition, and it's Week one is gonna look. Week
one is always somewhat sloppy, and it's gonna be even
more so this year. And I think from a fision
in perspective, what what they're telling the officials is called
the clear and obvious fouls. Um, make it big and
well I like that philosophy. I think you can go
too far with that philosophy, and if you let too

(29:18):
much go, um, then the game can kind of spin
out of control. Uh So again this is it's a
year like unlike any other, and we just have to
you know, roll with it and and see how it goes.
But um, you know we've already right, how many Travis,
what's the rundown? The list of games that have been canceled?
Because we already had our postponed. Because we've already had

(29:40):
two of our games postponed Friday night, we were supposed
to have s m U TCU that was postponed. Saturday
is supposed to have Louisiana Tech Baylor that was postponed.
What what games? What games of note other than the
conferences that aren't playing have been have been postponed? Well,
you had NC State, Virginia Tech at Marshall, East Carolina,

(30:02):
U l M at Troy, our game SMU t c U.
You said, Tulsa, Oklahoma State, what's ul ULM Nice Temple Navy?
The one we the one we found out before the show,
our other game Louisiana Tech at Baylor and Rice Marshall

(30:27):
and U A. B at right at Rice. Um so yeah,
that moves. Then Fox nine am slot on the West coast.
You got Arkansas State versus k State. Baby, let's get going.
M Then we've got a nice long break and we
come back at seven Pacific. Make sure you're watching. It's

(30:47):
seventh Pacific Coastal Carolina and kay, we might be the
only game in town at that time. What else can't
just get having fans in the stands, Because if there's
no fans in this stands, it's nine pm in Kansas,
you gotta imagine there might be seventeen people watching him.

(31:07):
You know what I'm looking for is maybe like a
good lightning. Oh yeah, yeah, tornade. Don't even put that
evil on it. Nine minute lightning? Uh? Why bro? We
we can throw six months of healthy and clean eating
out the window in one night when you can Taco

(31:29):
bell a tenant tend to block most definitely, I mean
that that's that's very optimistic of you to think that
we've been clean eating the last six months the most
and I have most point I have I can't even
remember two points I haven't, you know, I still my

(31:51):
panut m and M's and I have baked. Other than that,
it's just cooking at home and um eating pretty pretty
well actually. But um so, what was this? The Big Ten? Right?
The Big Ten has kind of been all over the
news and uh now Michigan parents are protesting. Is that's
what's happening, Travis? Can we free the Big ten? Free

(32:14):
the Big Ten? Is the messages that's going on. They
were marching and protesting. Harbos says his guys can be
ready to go in two weeks. Well, look like last
week is that the Big Ten? Right? Didn't didn't the
White House approve all of the of the protocols or measures?
I read something about, you know, because we know, we know,
Trump called Kevin Warren the commissioner of the Big Tent,

(32:37):
but there was some approval. I wasn't sure if this
was even a thing, but the White House approved all
the protocols for the Big Ten to resume playing. Obviously
there's a political angle to that as well, because some
of those states tend to be swing states and and
there is an election coming up, but um there is
We don't talk politics, though, we don't talk politics but

(32:59):
I do think the Big Ten will be I think
it could be we could watch we could be watching
Big Ten football in November, like it's it could happen,
and uh, and then you and then you get the
Pack twelve news, which which I think the the news
came out about the right the point of contact testing

(33:19):
um with the with the Pack twelve and that they're
gonna be using that. I think a lot of that
has to do with basketball as well, because remember we're
starting to get into college basketball season, like we we
kind of the NBA is playing right now, so it
has all of our calendars all screwed up. But it's
it's September. We're playing the Lakers are playing the Rockets
tonight in the playoffs. In college basketball starts right in

(33:44):
those those nonconference tournaments starting like right October, late October,
early November. It's it's crazy to think what October November
could look like in the sports landscape. Yeah, I mean that.
Yeah they and we know the n c A made
a big deal about how much money they lost out
by not having that d n c A tournament, So

(34:05):
I'm sure they're desperate to have a season. Well we
need I'm not going, I'm not haveing, not having not
not not having an n C. So I've spoken, we're
having ann and we're going to Vegas and we're going big.
We're going big. But this is the this is the

(34:26):
Dean saying this. This is the kiss of death for
the tournament. Now, don't you're the kiss of death. Okay,
I didn't say I'm going. I didn't say I'm going.
You you will come last minute. You don't do anything,
and then you'll come last minute when everything goes to
a Daniel book your last minute flights. You have to
worry about the cost. Honestly, I'll fly you. I will

(34:47):
wow that the eighty dollar flight to Vegas. Thank you
last minute? I mean, but Dean, for real, would you
you're betting? Man? What do you think the Big ten
will have a football season as year? Yes, there you go, people,
you heard it here first. I just think again. It

(35:10):
is hopefully where the testing is going and where the
trends now. Um and just the amount I get it. Look,
health and safety is obviously the priority of the amount
of money that we're talking about, like the like these
some of these programs, I mean you're talking, uh, it's

(35:33):
it's astronomical, and the CFP is planning on going through
right and and they're gonna have their playoff and everything else.
And you know, I plan to be in Miami in
January for the game. So, like I said, anybody wants it,
wants in on that trip, let me know, all right.
I just think, look, college football, we're gonna we're gonna

(35:56):
deal with postponements every week. I think we're gonna have
because you're talking about college campuses, You're talking about these kids.
So every week, I think you're gonna be dealing with postponements.
And you know, we're just it's a fluid deal. Hopefully
that's not the case with the NFL, and um, you know,
we get through a season. Um that being said, I
want to shift gears, and I want to talk about

(36:16):
a guy who's having might be having the shittiest or
one of the shittiest twenties. Um yeah, no, Novak Djokovic
is not having a good a good like he And
I want to get you guys thoughts on this because
obviously this is a rules thing. So he gets bounced

(36:38):
from the US Open in in what was that his
was that the second round round? I think third round.
He gets bounced in the third round of the US
Open as the world number one for hitting a ball
in anger that struck a lines woman um in the
I guess in the head or something like that. And
that is really a violation of the rules, and he's out.

(37:03):
When you watch it, it doesn't feel like the punishment
fits the crime. But I'm interested in what you're what
you guys think the video. I saw that it didn't
look like it was it was malicious at all, but
I mean it was kind of a a wide angle
of it and he kind of like turned his head

(37:25):
and like and wasn't even looking. He kind of hit
it back behind him to get it to it. I
thought it was I thought it was too much, too much.
He should have been disqualified. But should should have Should
you have that discretion? Because this is the thing I've
always struggled with, is there's a rule, right, and and
the rule says, okay, you can't hit the ball in

(37:46):
anger frustration and add a you know, at an official,
which is clearly to the letter of the law. It happened.
But is that one where we could say, Okay, my dad,
I'm sorry, you know, do I get him? Do I
get forgiveness on that one. I mean, Scott, you're you're
kind of more. I think you were like, look, that's

(38:09):
the rule. He shouldn't have done it. Well, he's just
he's kind of he has a you know, I'm not
the biggest tennis fan, but I've been watching his career
long enough. He's he's not the biggest headcase on the
tour by any stretch, but he's a bit of a crank.
You know, Like what's his name, he's he's by far
worse than well yeah, but he um. He actually was

(38:32):
like I'm not going to play in the US Open
because he actually tweeted about it. And now suddenly I
forgot his name. But he tweeted like if I would
have done this, how long would I be saying? And
it's like there are and and this is just like
any sport players get reputations or things. Djokovic is a
bit of a crank. He's a bit of a one. Like,
you know, people will call it what they want. Some

(38:54):
will just say it's like he's emotional, he's heated. I mean,
obviously he's talented. Uh and I'm not And I like
having quote unquote bad guys in sports but it's like
it's it's like, yeah, he's number one, and it sucks
that like his like this run he's on gets cut

(39:14):
by this. It's just like he shouldn't have done it.
And yeah it was an older woman as a but
like it whether it's an older woman or it's a
ball a ball kid or whatever, it's just like he'll
move on, he'll be fine. And he see he did
seem genuinely apologetic in his statement, So I kind of
feel bad, but it's just like whatever, like you kind

(39:37):
of have a reputation for being like a bit of
a hothead. But you could tell he was immediately like
oh no, like as soon as he hit it and
it's it hit the lady, he was immediately remorseful, like well,
it's it's like he was remorseful in the way that
like you're piste off, you know, when you're piste off

(39:57):
at home and then you like knock over and something,
you're like, god, I'm angry. Yeah, yeah, that happens. That
happens all the time. So that's exactly that's exactly how
I would have It's not your crack pipe analogy, but
it's it's decent. I didn't any better correctly put it
in a way that other people understand. The new Tony

(40:18):
Hawk remake came out this weekend, and it's like you're
on a really good combo and then you try to
sneak in one more trick and then you mess it up,
and then you just throw the controller because you're upset.
Throwing the controller because you're upset, and then you immediately
but then you break the TV. Yes, you immediately realize
how I shouldn't have done. Yes, you get too old

(40:39):
to play video games. I think about Djokovic. He had
he had the party in the middle of the COVID tree,
like the height of it, with you know, no social distancing,
no masks, and everybody came down with it. And and
then he's trying to unionize the tennis players, and which
has been like and no one like Federer and all

(41:00):
the other tennis players, like dude, what are you doing?
But also he just wanted to unionize the men. Yes,
so and not it um you know what else didn't
have He didn't have a good did you guys see
the Nationals GM Mike result Gun gets injected from his
sweet in an empty stadium. Yes, like, think about that

(41:26):
like now in an empty steam you can hear the
guy and it was like middle deck, like not the
upper deck, but you know, the sweets are typically between
the lower bowl and the upper deck. And he's sitting there,
no mask, there's no one around, and of course Joe
West is booked. Yeah it is. It's of course, last mate.
Did you read Joe West quote about it? It's bad,

(41:48):
Yeah that he doesn't care. If it was Donald Trump,
he would have thrown him out of the game, and
then he threw and then a year. But it's still
vote for him. Yeah, come on, man, like you when
is yours? Like when are you gonna hang it up? Like?
How much more of a cartoon can he be? Basic?
Baseball is literally like the worst sport when it comes

(42:11):
to officials, where I'm just like, just make the robo umps. No.
I mean I know a lot of baseball umpires and
they're really good guys, and they they are they I
don't know them, so I don't care. But there but that,
I'd say that working home plate is the hardest. I
honestly think it's the hardest job in officiating in sports,

(42:37):
like working home plate because you don't have think about
how many pitches are thrown in a game, and you
are I mean constant, it's one after the other, and
you're talking about two hundred plus pitches in a game.
So it's I I agree it's hard. I think all
officiating is hard. But also, what's the one sport where

(43:00):
you know multiple officials by name because they have reputations
for being Yeah, well, I think, of course, I think
that's there's no question you don't. You don't get that
in the NFL because other than the head referee, and
because the head referee makes the announcements, so you kind
of get you know, the ad populees and gene but

(43:20):
they were never like negative connotations with them. Now they
weren't negative connotations, I think. I think you end up
with that in baseball and sometimes in best sometimes and
and one of the best human beings I've ever met,
Joey Crawford, but he had a reputation. He you know,
remember when he teed up Tim Duncan and it was
like smiling or whatever, smiling laughing for laughing. Right, Tim

(43:44):
Duncan is the most least confrontational NBA player, Right, He's
universally fundamental and and but but that was his reputation,
but you know, an awesome guy otherwise, not saying he was,
and he was an excellent NBA referee, but he had
that reputation for being you know, kind of a yeah.

(44:04):
I'm not saying I saw. I saw him at a
summer league one time, and people were coming up to him.
It's very nice. I'm not saying anything personally about them,
but I do think that, uh, some of the baseball umpiring,
like that's the baseball is also the weirdest one because
people are obsessed with maintaining wrong calls because it's in

(44:25):
the it's in the uh, it's it's just part of
the game. And it's like, come on, well no. And
then then you know they did implement replay and and
and they have in baseball. You know, I don't think
it's I don't think it's as conducive to replay as
as football isn't necessarily, but I think it's good when
you have like when you have Jim Joyce and and

(44:47):
you know, Gallarago with the perfect game and Jim Joyce
missing that call and immediately yeah, after the game feeling awful.
I think you need to you need to be able
to correct those errors. And that's why they have they
have replay. But Um, going back to the NBA, though
there was a story Travis, you said that, Um, Tim,
Donnie he what was the comment he made? Was he

(45:09):
on he was on the part of my take? Did
he mention something? Yeah, he said something along the lines
of admitting that the NBA purposely assigned certain refs to
manipulate the outcome of games. So here's my take on that. Okay,
because I watched what he said, and I wouldn't trust

(45:33):
anything that comes out of this guy's mouth. Number one, Um,
being in that position and assigning games, and that's the
last thing, Um, that you're thinking about. And this guy
is is a disgraced was was got caught up in
gambling and a black eye like no other in terms officiating.

(45:56):
And now he's gonna come out and he's talking about
Dick Pavetta and and and it's even it's almost like
it's like these these comments no one. His his proof
was that Dick Bavetta said, you know, I'm the NBA's guy.
They put me on this game. And that could have
been just boasting by Dick Bavetta, you know, like just
because he got he got as signed to this you

(46:17):
know whatever, this playoff game. But I wouldn't trust anything
that comes out of that guy's mouth. And personally I
think he's a piece of ship and I have problem
saying that. Let me ask how I've met Tim Downny.
He's a good guy, we hang out a lot, a
great family man. No, I agree, he's a he's why
would you he has zero credibility? Sorry Joe, you were

(46:39):
going to say something, Well, I was shifting gears. You
could continue to beat up on the guy, but I
agree he if look when you when you cheat your immediately,
you don't really get to say ship about ship. So yeah,
and to try to stay relevant and write a book
and do it and try to take you know, and
look if if the whole system was corrupt, then come
out and say the whole them was corrupt and prove

(47:01):
it right. Don't make these run off comments and these things,
and try to try to you know, further your you
know your agenda. Um, when you you know, you got
busted and you paid the price, and move on like
it's just like I said, that's like a black eye
on the entire officiating community. And believe me, having been

(47:21):
as intimately involved in it as I have been, um
that stuff doesn't happen like it just there's no executive
at the NBA that is saying we need this game
to this series to go to seven games, and we're
gonna put this referee on this game. Yeah. And I
think basketball of all the sports too, when you look

(47:43):
at like year over year, I feel like most of
the time you can be like the best team at
the end of the year won the title. You know,
It's like, obviously there's there's blown calls, just like any
other sport, but it's you're I really Yeah. It's funny
when you talk with some people. I remember just in
the long history of dumb sports conversations, you have people

(48:06):
who literally believe it's like that James bond Villon where
all the officials are meeting and then they're waiting for
the call from the commission and they're like, hey, we
gotta make this go to game seven. It's like, it
doesn't happen. You think it's that coordinated, Like you're giving
all of us too much credit. Look like you're you're
literally trying to put the best people on the games

(48:29):
and trying to make sure the games go as smoothly
as possible, and there's no way that you're going to
to direct the officials too to call a game a
certain way to further you know, some perceived agenda of
the league, like it's if that were the case, then yeah,

(48:50):
we'd have the Lakers and the Celtics in the champion
in the championship game every you know, the championship every
year and move on. Let to shift gears. Do you
have an opinion on the Nash hiring? That was a
pretty big interest, That was a pretty big thing this week.
You know, yeah, you you you always take a chance
on a guy that has no coaching experience and that

(49:13):
that I don't care what he did as a player.
And Steve Nash obviously is as accomplished a player as
you're gonna get and as well respected a player as
you're gonna get. But he he hasn't coached, and now
he's gonna be the head coach of um, you know,
a team that is going to be expected to be
with Durant back and Kyrie is expected to compete for

(49:36):
a title. UM, I don't know, Like he wasn't the
case that he was a consultant with the Warriors for
like four or five years though, so he did have
a relationship with Durant. Well, what I'm talking about specifically
is a lot of people were upset that, you know,
some African American coaches got passed up for him without
any experience. Well, that's always been looked you think about, right,

(49:59):
the league's that are the NFL has had this issue
where you look at their hiring practices and very few
black people get those jobs, those head coaching jobs. Right,
what is there in the NFL? Right, there's three black
head coaches, um, and even the NBA, And yes, that

(50:19):
is that has to be part of the conversation. Um. Now,
Steve Nash may come in and crush it and be
an amazing coach, and but he doesn't have if just
on paper, he just doesn't have the resume. And you
know from a coaching perspective, he doesn't. And I'm sure
there are there are a lot of black candidates that

(50:41):
have a much better resume from coaching perspective than Steve Nash.
But guess what I think it's I think it's it's
more than just about the resume. Because if if if
you're the casual fan and Steve Nash is the coach
or Monty Williams is the coach who who draws the
attention more right, it's gonna be Steve Nash. Well it's

(51:02):
not only that, but I mean, don't you think that,
Look Steve, what if Steve Nash ends up being the
best coach in the history of the NBA, And and
whoever interviewed him just said, look, I saw this in him,
even though he didn't have experience. It's like when I
make a fantasy football trade and some dude vetos and
it's like, well, bro, I think this guy is gonna
have a good year, and this guy's not. I can
understand on paper that this is how it looks, but

(51:24):
who are you to tell me I can't for that guy. Ultimately,
it's just it's just up for debate. No one the
NFL tried that, right. The NFL floated the idea of
of incentivizing teams to hire hire more minorities, and and
it kind of didn't didn't. It didn't go that way.
If you if you own a club and you want

(51:46):
to hire who you want want to hire, um, that's
your prerogative. But I think the bigger issue is that
we keep recycling the same coaches, and the same coaches
tend to be white coaches. Yeah, and black coaches are
not getting the same opportunities and we don't have How

(52:07):
do you know if they're gonna be any good if
they don't get that chance. I think I think the
the I'm with you, Joe, like, I mean, I think
Steve National probably be a pretty good coach. The reason
they bring him into is because I think if they
bring in a quote unquote rookie, now, this is not
whether whatever coach it is, uh like, he's going to

(52:29):
gain there. He has respect from the veterans on that team.
This is not a young club. But like Dean was saying,
it is a thing where it's like in particular the
n b A you need like the less like it's
it's a continual issue where it's like teams should be
trying to cultivate uh like through the assistance and hiring

(52:53):
at large, like black coaches because it is a black
lead league and that just means there aren't opportunities, and
then when there aren't as many opportunities, it becomes harder
for the few coaches that do exist, because then it
becomes such a thing like that's why when I think

(53:13):
the NBA will be the first league where a woman
is a head coach, I mean like like Becky Hammond,
I believe is their name on the Spurs. But the
problem is the longer you take to get more just
within the coaching ranks and coaching trees it there there's
way more pressure on a single woman. So the first
woman coach will almost be a referendum on all women.

(53:38):
Even though, as we know, there's lots of bad coaches
that get lots of opportunities seemingly continually for whatever reason
we don't know, and we see that in football, like
college football is a perfect example where you see the
same coaches pop up seventeen times with losing records everywhere.

(54:00):
Shut all right, let's take a break. Come back back

(54:24):
from UM. So I'll give you a little background. I
did a cameo for a fantasy football league UH to
do their draft order, and I did it via zoom,
and we had a lot of fun with a good
bunch of to do guys and UM. And then one
of the guy's name and one of the guys team

(54:44):
names in the league was more than a feeling UM
so exactly, so I made fun of him, and I said,
you're that name is banned and you have to come
up with a new name. So and then I said
I would name his team. And then we started like
just texting. And now he asked me to be a

(55:05):
part owner of the club. So had our draft tonight
and so I'm gonna I'm gonna run down are he
did most of the drafting. I'm a minority owner. Um.
I purchased like a stake in the club. And so
quarterbacks Josh Allen and Cam Newton, UM, running backs Josh

(55:26):
Jacobs and Raheem Monster, Um, Zack Moss, and UM came
and read that Austin Scott, UM, receivers Chris Goodwin, DeAndre Hopkins,
Marvin Jones Jr. Justin Jefferson, UM, tight end Darren Waller,
Um flex, Michael Gallup defense Pittsburgh and Kicker Zingens outs.

(55:51):
So that's the club that might be the worst investment
you've ever made, just saying you know, okay, no, I'm
feeling confident about that. I mean, we've been talking to
these g as kids that do fantasy analysis, and that's
what you came up with. I said, I just I
was a silent party. He didn't get I don't have
any personnel decisions. I don't have any I'm I'm I'm

(56:13):
just the guy behind the guy. Congratulations, you are part
of the Redskins. They didn't name the team, and the
name of our team is the Gauntlet. In every week
we lay the Gauntlet down and if we beat you,
we get to rename your team for the week, and
if they beat us, they get to name art. That's fun.
That's why I bring it. As a part owner, I

(56:35):
bring those type of ideas. Dan, I will say, that's
actually pretty cool that you you did that as a
sea level celebrity. Those guys are probably stoked and they
probably think it's the coolest thing ever. So bravo to you,
my friend. But your team stocks um. So speaking of
Castle Point Analytics speaking, they're they're so give us give

(57:00):
a little background on these guys. So there's these there
are these kids that we know that that I met
through a friend of mine, and they have this whole
analytics company and they really try to they try to
find a little bit of a different angle than all
the other companies that do fantasy you know analytics and

(57:21):
sports gaming analytics, and they seem to be honest something.
They're they're eight for their last eight in UFC. And
that's kind of how I started talking to them, because
I'm pretty decent at picking picking fights. Uh, and they
took I can't really say exactly how they do it,
but they've taken everything that I gave them and they
really objectified it and created like algorithms that measuring all

(57:43):
sorts of stuff that you don't really think about. Um
And like I said, he for height for the last
last two UFC s, which is pretty dampressive. What's interesting
is they they are they're trying to give the sports
gamer um uh and a leg up in that. You know,
so if you have a fight right in Vegas, has

(58:04):
the odds set, and you have a favorite and a
red and underdog, let's say like the over him fight
over over him was Let's say he was a I
don't know what was the minus one twenty favorite whatever
he was. So what they're trying to do is they're

(58:25):
gonna take They're gonna take these these this data and
compile it and give this give the better, um a
real line like like Joe explained it better. But they're
trying to take right, they're taking the Vegas line. They're
taking these other metrics and they're saying, Okay, in a

(58:45):
vacuum alistair over him has a sixty seven chance of
winning this fight, and and so that's where and and
they're they're gonna provide this value, you know, so the
value is x and and it's there free in the
last two UFC. Yeah, they're doing they're and they're super
smart kids, really cool kids. We've had two meetings with them,

(59:07):
and I think, uh, I think we're gonna measure over
the course of the season, like we'll do some sort
of a contest where I pick against them, or we'll
do something on the on the podcast where the next
week we'll talk to them and we'll say, okay, let's pick.
We'll pick three NFL games and Joe will get Joe's
picks and we'll get the Castle Plank picks and we'll see,

(59:30):
you know, who stacks up better. I want a couple
of UFC fights in there too, though, because I'm a
lot better at that. I mean, a freight is good.
They're they're smart kids, man, and they're cool kids. So
I was you really should have called them for your draft.
They probably could have helped you tremendously. What I'm gonna
do is I'm gonna have them listen to this and

(59:50):
analyze your team and guys, just don't don't be nice,
just be wrong. Let them know the truth team you
gotts catch out challenge. He's from Wyoming, Josha, Wyoming. Cam
Cam might end up they're talking about Cam is a
potential MP with the Patriots. Jeez, what what what's our

(01:00:14):
what's our life rule? We were debating this prior to
the podcast. Gott you want to introduce it, but I
just through this out here because we can come up
with one. You know, it's well, is it ever okay?
To data friends? X? Uh? Is is it ever cool?

(01:00:35):
What's the time? Like? Is it a? Is it a
time plus distance plus seriousness? Who knows? I think there's
an equation without a question, without a doubt, there's definitely
a question. I don't think. I I it's it's not
a it's not a non starter, like I think there
are situations where it's okay. I think for me, I

(01:00:58):
I think I think a couple of factors that I
would consider. How close is this friend? Right? That has
to be one? Um? Is this an acquain's Is this
a friend, you know, Um, certainly time, you know, And
I would say, and I would say, it's it's much
easier to swallow if you're not if it's not back

(01:01:18):
to back. But if there's somebody's wedged in between your
friend and your time with this person, yeah, I think
that's so time certainly, And if you're throw in a
relationship in between the two, I think that's good. Um,
I think yeah, I think I think proximity. How often

(01:01:40):
are you all gonna hang out? Yeah, obviously if they're
still friends as well, like if it ended poorly, if yeah,
how it ended, and and and then I think it's
it's you know, I think you do have to I
think there is a permission slip involved. I think there's
a conversation that has to have I think, yeah, I
think time is the ultimate one, because it's like you

(01:02:03):
don't want to make it seem like, wait, was was
this already going on? You know what I mean, like
behind the back or whatever. So that's why there has
to be one in between. I think it just makes
it easier. So why don't we why don't we say
some absolute parameters, Let's let's do something for the people. Okay,
So if if you guys are best friends, I'd say no.

(01:02:29):
I'd say if you guys are attached at the hip,
I'd say no, it's too close. So no eskimo brothering, No,
I think, And and then I'm gonna go and say,
if it's over, say two years, then I think that
should be a hard No. Oh, that the original relationship
is over two years. Oh, you're seeing the length of

(01:02:52):
the original relationship. It wasn't even thinking of that. Yeah,
the length of the original relationship because that really length
kind of equals series business, right, Yeah, and like what
like especially they oh we were married and have kids,
it's like you can't get involved. But I think then
then you add, okay, if unless your friend is dying,

(01:03:12):
if there was an engagement, right, does that take it
off the table completely, unless unless your friend is dying,
because unless he asked you, I want you to raise
my kids. Well, I think I think that there could
all of these rules can be overturned if you get

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permission from the first person that was the pission. I
think the hall pass overrides anything else. I think if
you and also you're I think it's the seriousness of
the relationship or the friendship also because it's like, oh yeah,
we uh, we're co workers. We see each other like once.
You know, what if what if your friend is in

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another relationship and you're she is the one, like they've
met their person there completely over the other person and
they are head over heels in love with this other
this new person. What about that? Well, that's then you
just kind of be like, hey, I just want to
let you know this is this is cool. It seems
like you're that's like just asking permission. I don't want

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it to be weird, like if like if if I
knew Joe was head over heels with this with this
new girl and he's in love and I'm gonna marry
her and all this stuff, that would make me feel
less like less less tentative about asking him about his
old girl. Yeah, I think, but I do think that

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the permission should be granted. Even if I'm totally in
love with this new girl. You should come up and say, listen,
you're really into whoever. I kind of want to date whoever.
What are your thoughts? Yeah, man, go ahead, then you're in.
When like the NFL, they won't like if I want
if I if I the GM of the Jaguars to

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be my GM. I can't do that. It has to
be like a couple move. When is when is it
legal to deny permission? I think I think you can
all like, I think you can always just do it.
It's just like a personal thing of like, will this
make the relationship where it's just like being friends with
a couple and then they let's say they get divorced

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or or like they just break up. They weren't married,
and you're friends with both of them. It's like, do
you stop being friends with both of them and pick one?
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Sometimes it was sort
of an amicable switch, and you can still be friends
with both of them. But sometimes it's just a little weird.
But I'm just here. But when like if Joe asked me, hey,

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can I get your acts? When can I tell him enough?
Whenever you've got you could always say no. But he
can also just be like I don't care. Yeah, But
that was like, like we're not friends anymore. Yeah, if
you're gonnaf you're gonna date Someone's a very uncomfortable with
this sentire conversation. No, I'm not uncomfortable with I just

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lost audio for a little while, so I couldn't even here.
So I don't even know if you guys said this, Like,
I feel like, if you're gonna try dating your buddies
ex girlfriend, you're probably not gonna be friends with that
dude anymore. Like that's probably what's gonna happen, because it's
not gonna work here. Your buddy's gonna be jealous. She's
not gonna want you to hang out with him because
the things that went on with them and Travis, I
disagree with you, there's a level of maturity that you

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could probably make that work. Now if you asked the
day my ax I would, I would tell you, know,
to save you, Travis, you grew up in Wyoming. You
all dated each other. How are you? How are you
on this side of the fence. I don't know. I
didn't date a lot when I was in Wyoming. I was,
you know, I was, I was going to do with
other things maybe, um, I don't know. I just it

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was kind of like, you don't date your buddies, Like
that was always the rule. You just don't date your buddies.
That mean, yeah, that's a good rule in general. It
just avoids conflict. But in the rarer occasion working come up.
I think it can totally work. I've known it to happen,
and people all stay friendly because the relationship dissolved, not
because some crazy blow up. It was just like, hey,

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this isn't working out. But I think he does make
it awkward. I think the element of time is the
most important. If you go on two dates with some
chicken that on the internet. What what I do want
to state before we do, Brandon Blandino, this is back
to back episodes without an ambulance. The sirens in the background,

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his things getting cleaned up out there in Santa monicadean
of them. M hm must have been Scott was talking,
all right, here we go, brand Blandio. How hard is
it to catch a wild goose? How exact? When? When

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did I'm I'm fascinated by like phrases like I'm so fascinated.
I want to know the background on all you know,
like the grass is greener and so what you know
what You're gonna go on a wild goose chase? Like
where did that catch a wild goose? And why was
it a wild goose? Like who was out trying to

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catch a wild goose? And they were like who you
can't catch that thing, and then it became hard, and
then it became a sting like. I feel like there's
there's way more animals that are harder to catch than
a wild goose. I do think those I think those
birds are kind of hard to catch. They I'm sure
they are, But I'd rather try to catch a wild goose.

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I think I can catch one more than like catching
a cheetah, Like you're never gonna be able to catch cheetah.
First of all, I'm never gonna be able to catch
a cheetah. So why isn't this saying? What are you
sending me to catch cheetah? Like? What? Why is it?
It just doesn't sound good? Is the wild goose? She's
got me on a wild cheetah chase? I'm never gonna

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find this maynaise she loves it doesn't work, while goose
sounds cooler. What I what I am going to do.
I will find that information out for you. But what
I'm gonna do as an ode to my gratitude for
our our one year anniversary, I'm gonna find a wild
goose chase for us to go on, and we're gonna

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see how hard it is. I want to rocky chicken. Yeah,
it wasn't a wild chicken though. That looked like a
cage chicken. That look like the mess. But the chicken
and the goose are different. It's a wild We're gonna
go on a wild goose chase, all four of us,
Like I'm assuming that it was like they were goose hunting,

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and you know, then they got the dogs and the
goostballs and all that. But I just, I mean, they
can fly by the way, so it's very difficult to
catch you where I imagine. All right, So what do
we learn? We learned don't teach your your friends X
and we're gonna find out how hard a wild goose chase.
Actually goose chase can't be that hard. You'll be that hard,

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