Ep 38- PI review postmortem, NFL rules change proposal vote and one step closer to sports returning.

PI review postmortem, NFL rules change proposal vote and one step closer to sports returning.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of
I Heart Radio. Hey what's up? Dean Blandino. Welcome to
another episode of Good Calls again doing the zoom thing.
Travis is in his backyard. I gotta see your backyard.
I've been to your place, but I've never seen your backyard.

(00:22):
Your backyard looks nice. Yeah, You're welcome to come over
anytime once you know, you feel comfortable and I feel comfortable. Yeah,
I'm good with that. Come on over, You're fine, all right?
Coming over? And Joe with the background, that's her most
appear I missed the almost appeared Joe. I'm dreaming of
better days. Let's let's get back there quite soon. Hopefully,

(00:45):
hopefully we'll be back there soon. Let's get into let's
get into some stuff that's going around obviously around the
country with the NFL. Um practice facilities are starting open
for small groups. What what what's going on there? Travis
with just opening some of these facilities. Uh, And then
I know we've got a couple of things. Troy Vincent,

(01:05):
Senior vice president or executive vice president of Football Operations,
talking about the NFL planning to play in front of
full full stadiums until medical community tells us otherwise. That
just feels like a stretch right now. It seems like
a stretch. But as of what we're going through right now,
you've got some teams Cowboys, Falcons, Texans, Cardinals, chiefs of

(01:25):
colts all opening up their facilities. Um, not for players yet,
for for team personnel. Um, they're opening up, getting things
back going as normal. Um. Players who are going through
rehab can be in the facilities right now. Um, But
we're not going to see any players at the facilities
starting to work out for a long ways away from
that still, But I think things opening up is a

(01:48):
step in the right direction. Not full stadiums yet, that's
for sure. Yeah, that's the full stadiums just seems like
it just seems like a stretch. You see some of
the sports that are starting up in Obviously football is
still a couple of months away, but it's getting closer.
But the sports that are happening, it's, uh, you know,
you're not seeing full stadiums obviously, you're seeing social distancing

(02:10):
and guidelines in place and and no crowds and and
things like that. So I think what I think, maybe
what's behind that though it's just you know, an optimistic
point of view, like you know, we have to prepare,
is if they're going to be full stadiums. Yeah, absolutely,
Is that what he meant by you think? And I
appreciate the optimism and and again the medical community, it's

(02:34):
gonna come down to public health and safety. It's it's
going to and I think you just write there, we're
gonna air on the side of caution. We've been doing
that throughout this whole this whole deal, and uh, you know,
we're still It was interesting, you know, going to place
over the weekend, and we'll talk a little bit more
about that later, but being in Arizona over the weekend,

(02:56):
it's feels like a different world in Arizona right out
and compared to California, going into a going into a
like a mini mart at a gas station, and you
wouldn't have thought anything was different prior to you know,
it was like pre Corona environment. Don't have the flexi

(03:16):
glass up. But other than that, it's pretty normal, pretty
big normal with that. No, there was no Plexi glass. Yeah,
the AMPM Plexi glass. No. When I when I went
into that, I went into the minimart at the gas station.
There was no the other one right there. Yeah, yeah,
the guy behind the counter, yeah, people in front of

(03:37):
me like it was not it was. It was as
if Corona had not happened. And it's an interesting dynamic
there because you're right on the border of Arizona and California.
So you crossed one street and everyone's wearing masks there
and you go to the other side of the street
and it's just free for all. It's pretty wild. It's
definitely different. And obviously each state has its own guidelines,
and I think, you know, here in California. Then I

(03:59):
get back to California and I, you know, I go
to right Aid and I got my mask on and
I'm in there and practicing the whole social distancing thing.
And uh so again still always away. But I just
I can't envision Week one, you know, September, that Thursday
night there being a packed house. I just I don't.

(04:21):
I don't envision that happening. But I do think we're
gonna play, and I do think we'll have well left
football on time. At least. NFL football colleges are going
to be, like I said, a bigger challenge with getting
because you gotta get kids back on campus. You gotta
get them reacclimated. And then and then you have to
uh you know, then you have to get them get
them going. Uh they call it acclimatization. I guess is

(04:43):
the is the term. Reclimatization is the term that they're using.
So you know, really they're really utilizing this pandemic to
really create some really big words. I appreciate that. Oh
this there's a whole vocabulary there is we have created,
Like I now, I don't think and I think we're

(05:04):
always gonna see part of this you're seeing. I mean
I watched an Amazon commercial and the guy they were
talking to, the Amazon delivery guy, and you know, kudos
to those people, not just essential workers and everybody else
delivery people, garbage people, everybody, sanitation workers. But the whole
commercial is just him with a mask and and and

(05:25):
it's just you know, you stop at McDonald's and or
you go to a drive through and they've got masks
and gloves and and it is. It has definitely created
a different and different environment, um with what's going on. Well,
part of me, even like you know, years down the road,
if they're still wearing masks and gloves at restaurants like,
let's find they're handling food. It's probably safer and better. Anyways. Yeah,

(05:47):
I don't have a problem if if, if the new
normal is I gotta put on a mask when I
go to the grocery store. Okay, I'm fine, Like I can.
I can deal with that. That's not a big deal.
I don't think if you told me I had to
wear a mask in a restaurant and sit down and
have a meal with friends or family and wear a
mask and then and they, you know, shoot my food. Whatever,

(06:10):
I won't go to restaurants. I'm just it's it's not
I'm not gonna go to a bar wearing a mask. Um,
if I'm gonna go to a bar or a place
you know, to to wear a mask, I'm gonna go
rob the place. Like it's not, don't you know. I
don't know why. I don't know how you guys feel,
but I'm not going to a restaurant with a mask.
So you told me I can't go without a mask,
I'm just not gonna go. I'm not gonna be I'm

(06:31):
not gonna be an ass. And like these people that
you see in these viral videos where They've never been
told no before in their life, and they can't imagine
somebody telling them not to sit in that boots because
of social distancing. Deal with it, abide by the guidelines.
But if the guideline is wearing mask in a restaurant,
I'm not going. Yeah, I'm probably not gonna go. I'm
all from take out at this point with a toddler,

(06:51):
I don't want to go anywhere near a restaurant. Bellow
Girl thrones food everywhere. It's just uncomfortable. Imagine getting a
table for ten people. You know you're right, and you
in your eight kids, like, I don't know where do
you go? Who got in first? That were so? Yeah?
Troy Vincent spoke to Peter King a couple of interesting quotes,

(07:14):
a couple of on a couple of fronts. Travis, what
was that all about? Yeah? The first one during a
conference call to talk to Tom, Peter King said, the
rooming world changes. Um sounded like he said, the facts
are broken. We have a you know the facts star,
we have a broken system. But um, he says, do
I take it personal? Yes? I do. It's my responsibility

(07:34):
as a professional athlete, as a man of color, as
someone who bleeds the National Football League leads football. It's
part of our responsibility to continue what we believe is
right for our game. I'm one of the team members
in this relay race. So he's clearly, clearly upset about it.
And and and you know, Troy, you worked with him really closely. Yeah,
I've known Troy for a long time and you know,

(07:57):
consider him a good friend. And this is I know,
he he really cares about this. You look at his
you know, having played in the league. You know, was
was the head of the NFL p A at one
point than than an executive with the league first and
player engagement and and now with football operations and uh
and this is and being African American, this is a
big deal for him and for him to say the

(08:19):
system is broken, obviously, no one has been closer to
it than him. And you have to look at the
numbers and look at look at the minority coaching hires
or front office hires in in in the history of
the NFL. And you don't, you know, you have it's
it is broken. And so what is the solution? I don't.

(08:39):
I don't know what the solution is. That's why they're
trying different things and trying to have conversations. Draft compensation,
you know, that was something they talked about if you
hire a minority head coach and do you know you
move up draft picks, that becomes a competitive thing. And
also that got a lot of backlash, you know, you
know African American coaches and and former coaches. Marvel Lewis

(09:00):
came out and said that that was you know that
that wasn't something that that he would have been in
favor of. So it is broken. What what are the solutions?
You know, more minority owners, but that's not how many
people have the money in their bank account to buy
an NFL to maybe had a Rod and j Lo.
They tried to buy the Mets recently and that that
fell through because they didn't have the money. Yeah, so

(09:21):
this is it's an exclusive group right of people that
can afford NFL franchises, and NFL franchises continue to where
there isn't and and I don't think there's an NFL
franchise um that is value less than a billion dollars.
If there is, it's just under a billion dollars. And
when you talk about the franchises like the Cowboys that

(09:43):
are what five billion something ridiculous and so so again
very exclusive group. UM, it is a it's it's not
a h. There are not a lot of minority owners
across all of sports. And so what you know, how
do you fix that? UM? People talk about litigation. You know,

(10:03):
do do you do you have to sue? UM? This
is you know, that is the courts, right, that's the
great utilizer in this country at times. And it's not
it's just not an easy topic. I I I don't
know what the answer is. I think it's just more networking.
It's more you know, continuing the conversation and uh, and
just trying to get you know, trying to get opportunities

(10:25):
for minority coaches and if it's fellowships, if it's internships,
if it's things like that that can help them get
to a point. Because right now, when you look at
the head coaches in the NFL, the majority I think it,
UM have come from the offensive side of the ball.
So you've you've either been a quarterbacks coach or you've
been an offensive coordinator. UM. So that and when you

(10:46):
look at those positions currently now in the league, there's
very few people of color in those positions and and
so that's a problem. Right, So we're not doing anything
to create a sustainable pipeline. Um if those positions are
cotinue to be filled by white coaches and uh, and
again I think that's where I think that's where Troy
is coming from. My question. Those meetings are all private,

(11:08):
and why do you believe that those discussions were made public?
And why is this information out there? Like who does
this benefit? Oh, well, that that that gets leaked, that
that gets leaked, it's someone you know, and it it's
just when when that when that type of stuff gets leaked,
if somebody wants to put pressure on on the membership,
on the ownership, and and so that somebody internally that

(11:31):
is leading that information the NFL has you know, you
create relationships with people in the media, people you trust
and uh, and sometimes it's a benefit that there can
be a benefit to leaking information if you have people
that you trust in the media. So that stuff gets leaked.
There's stuff that gets leaked out of that office all
the time. And it's just it's just part of doing business, right,

(11:55):
what else? And but then kind of switching gears again,
Troy talked to Peter King about p I review that was.
There was some really interesting comments there. Yeah, we talked
about last week. Hal, you know, it's not coming back.
It's a one and done type of rule. You said
it all along, you said this is going to be
the Duke rule as you called it, um as in
basketball players going one and done. Nice, nice analogy. Thank

(12:17):
you for explaining in tr that was yours though I
wanted to know, but I appreciate you explaining it at
this point. Yes. Anyway, So so he talked about the
p I rule and he said, we failed. I'm first
in line. I shared that with league officials. I failed.
As the leader of that department. I failed. So a
lot of fails. So look the bottom line hashtag fail

(12:39):
is there we allowed to say and we said this.
I'm sure you could go back before the season and
we talked about it. Right, what what was the problem.
The problem was creating a rule for one play and
pushing it through at the league meeting. When when the
coaches at the league meeting part of the two thousand

(13:00):
nineteen season, the coaches were thirty two oh for a
sky judge concept. Right, the competition committee meets, the coaches
meet on Monday, um you know, or actually they meet
on Sunday night, they decide thirty two oh there there
for a sky Judge concept. Then Monday, the Competition Committee
gets together and they end up with a p I proposal.

(13:23):
And and so now we're we're now we're playing catch up,
and we're trying to figure out all the unintended consequences
of creating that role. And we got to see it
play out in prime time every week, and the ups
and downs and the changing standards, and it was just
never applied consistently. And it's a subjective call. And so

(13:46):
you start with something that's subjective, that's gonna be hard
to be consistent, and then you're all over the place
during the during the season. Yeah, of course it was
a failure. And uh and this this isn't you know,
I don't want this to be an I told you so.
But the bottom line is we've always the competition. To me,
that's why you crawl before you run, you know. To

(14:06):
change it took years before the NFL implemented a two
point try. It took years before the NFL move they
tried from the two to the fifteen for the kid.
You know, it doesn't happen, you know, overnight and that
rule happened. You know, there was a lot of impetus
and a lot of push leading up to that league meeting,
but it happened overnight. Why do you think they didn't

(14:28):
do any kind of trials with it like they do
with everything else and the priests And here's the deal, okay,
And this will be a perfect segue to the next
thing we're gonna talk about. They went into that lead
meeting from a pr perspective saying, we have to do something.
We have to win the press conference in March. And
when you're trying to win a press conference in March,

(14:48):
that's not the best strategy to success in September, October, November, December,
and January. Okay, they're trying to win. And that's what
I worry a little bit about. We talk about the
rules changes coming up, right, your favorite rule proposal? Right,
the on site alternative now is starting to get some life.
It's starting to get back into the news. Right. You

(15:10):
keep texting, You're like, oh, the onsite Alternatives back, it's
back here it is, you know, it's so right? Why
is it back? Okay, let's think about what's happening in
the NFL right now. Okay, you've got p I review
dies of brutal and ugly death after one year. Okay,
you've got a minority coaching system, hiring system that is broken.

(15:34):
So you need a positive you need something. You need
to win. You need something to say, hey, look we're
being innovative. We're going in and we're gonna make this exciting.
The on side kick is becoming increasingly hard to execute. Um,
we need another opportunity for teams to come back create
exciting finishes. And so again, we're trying to get a win.
It's no longer March because of Corona. Now we're trying

(15:57):
to get a win in May. And I just in
I worry about the the unintended consequences of of This
is a proposal that Philadelphia put forth, and I and
I and I know that coaching staff. Well, I know
the people involved in this proposal, and I've worked with them,
and I've seen the language, and I've looked at the language,
and I've gave I've given them recommendations. But the bottom

(16:19):
line is, now, when you start to think about okay,
fourth and fifteen from the right, then okay, what happens
with the clock? What happens if there's a foul, does
the offense get to replay that down and try it again?
Or is it a one and done? What happens if
there was a penalty on the on the touchdown that
that the team wants to take on the kickoff? Does

(16:40):
now fourth and fifteen from the twenty five? Does that
penalty move you up or move you back? Does that
make it a fourth and longer? Right? Think about this?
Think I thought about that, right, you know, it's all
of these things. Does the clock run because on a kickoff,
the clock doesn't run until the ball is legally touched.
So on this play, are you going to run the
clock and then if they get a first down you

(17:01):
keep the clock running. We'll think about at the end
of the game. If I've got three seconds, Okay, I've
I just I just scored the go ahead touchdown with
three seconds on the on the clock. Now I take
my onside alternative rather than risk the kickoff, I take
my onside alternative. I get the snap, I roll out
to my right and throw the ball aside as I

(17:21):
can out of bounds and run the three seconds off
the clock. So now it creates you create that opportunity
there there's so many things that go into this that
you have to vet out, and you have to continue
to vet out. Now I'm not saying this is this
is an overnight deal because last year Lebron Goes proposed
something like this, and so you just you just have

(17:41):
to continue to think about these potential you know, all
the potential what if before you you vote something in
and what I worry about about this because it's unique
because of Corona. Right, You're gonna have a league meeting
and you're gonna have votes taking place with one person
from every club, and you're not going to have the

(18:02):
same conversation. You're not gonna have the same dialogue that
you have in a normal league meeting, all right, because
in a normal league meeting, you have two members from
each club during those those voting sessions, and they're typically
somebody from ownership and the head coach for the most
part when it's a football deal. And you'll get and
I've been in the I've been in that room, and

(18:22):
I've sat there in the front of the room and
I've watched it all play out, and they'll rich McKay
that the head of the competition committee will explain the
rule proposal. UM I, as the head of officiating, we'll
talk about some different things that that we felt were
relevant and then that would be open up for discussion.
And you know, Mike Tomlin could get up and speak,
or or John Harbor could get up or speak, or

(18:45):
Steven Jones could get up and speak. That's not gonna
happen on this call, right, this is gonna be for
the most part, it's either going to be the actual
owner or the team president and they're not going to
have that discussion. The head coach is the one that's
the well you know that's gonna understand it the most.
And uh, and so I just worry about that that

(19:05):
we could end up with a rule change, UM and
and again be dealing with the unintended consequences going forward
because we need something positive because pr review and mine
already hiring are are what they are. And you think,
do you think they'll skip that trial again and instead
of trying it in the preseason going straight in, we're
doing this rule for a you know, this this vote,

(19:25):
the onsete alternative. I would I would hope they put
it in for one year. You know, they put it
up for a vote for one year and then uh,
you know, and it'll you know, my gut tells me, Look,
I don't know. I know there was some momentum coming in.
I know the league office. There's people at the League
office that want this to pass. So when that's the case,
you usually get some legs. Um My gut tells me,

(19:49):
I don't. I don't think it's gonna get twenty four,
but it could be closed. Remember you need twenty four
yes votes out of thirty two to pass. So well,
let me throw a Adam, and I want credit for
it if it happens. And it's gonna sound ridiculous, but
if you really think about it's a great idea implemented
in E gaming because those kids find every way to

(20:11):
manipulate anything in those games. If there's a way to
manipulate the clock or a flag or whatever, they'll find
it out. So let's work with Madden. Let's work with
e A and work with Madden to implement these things
and then we can see all the unintended consequences play
out on Madden. I can't tell you're being face you're serious,

(20:33):
because I'm dead serious. Like it would work because now
in the with the E sports, the games count like
it matters. People are betting thousands of dollars on this stuff. Yeah,
I think I'm all for it. Let's go, let's do it.
That can be the training ground. Um, I think we
should try player safety rules in Madden. Then let's see.

(20:54):
You know what what player safety we don't. We don't
want those we don't want those shops to be unnecessary risk.
We wanted, remember from virtual concussions in virtual a c
l s. So I agree. My favorite my favorite video

(21:15):
game injury was was it was NHL three. I think
I think they might have taken the blood out in
ninety four, but ninety three when you could hit the
guy and then he'd fall on the ground and the
blood would just pool on the ice. Remember they did
Swingers Swingers, Yeah, yeah, that was that the insane that
That was a great scene in Swingers too, He's like,

(21:37):
look at look at little little weights. I believed here
for super fandom of ninety nine. So let's let's move
on to some on the rule proposals. Yeah, so here
here's one. Look, they're always right, we gotta get a
player's safety rule change in this is this is probably
the least impactful players safety rule change in a hundred years.

(21:57):
This this is they're giving the kick returner defensive the
last pandemic. Sorry, right, yeah, exactly so So yeah, during
the Spanish flu, the forward pass was was outlooked. But
so they're giving a kick returner. So I'm a punt returner, right,
and the rules said that I was protected under the

(22:17):
defensive player rule. I couldn't be forcibly contact in the
head or neck area, and you couldn't lower your head
and initiate forcible contact with the helmet to any part
of my body. I was protected until I actually caught
the ball. A receiver who's trying to catch a pass
is protected until they catch the ball and have the
ball long enough to protect themselves. So it's a little

(22:38):
bit longer. So we're basically making the receiver the protection
the receiver gets and giving that extending that to the
kick returner. Well guess what. That's how it's been officiated
for as long as I can remember, Right, for as
long as I can remember. If a kick returner caught
the ball with two feet and then got blasted in
the hair neck area, we had three flags down, all right,

(22:59):
because that was a hit on a on a defenseless player.
So we're just making how the rule has been applied.
We're making the rule book basically be in ligne with that,
so so not a significant change, but we'll create that
player's safety. We're adding the player's safety. Still, we can
get the onside alternative and we can get the kick
returner added to defenseless. We've got some positives that we

(23:22):
can then we can put together, put that press release out,
and we can win that press conference. So you know,
because look, sky Judge isn't happening, right, that's not gonna
be You might get a preseason experiment. There's two types, right,
booth umpire um senior technical technical advisor to the referee,
the star um will probably have a preseason experiment. But

(23:44):
guess what, when the game's count and there's a big
past inference call missed or there's something else that a
sky judge or a star or a booth umpire could
help fix, the rules are gonna say that, no, that's
not allowed, and and and so again we're going into
the season two thousand and eighteen style, and we all
know what happened in two thousand eighteen in the NFC

(24:04):
Championship game. We ended up with pr review. It's like
we're going full circle. And sometimes I worry that that,
you know, we sit there and we said we failed,
we felt we failed, and then we do the same
ship and somebody's got to step up and figure it out.
And you know, I don't know, it's not me, but whatever,
UM get a little fired up there. So Travis got

(24:26):
excited about Jason Whitlock. Now is I didn't see it, Travis,
and I guess this was this on Speak for yourself
talk about and Travis was like, oh my god, in
it Travis voice that whenever Travis sends me a text message,
I do the guy am I, Oh my god, this
is so cool. Jason Whitlock had a had a rule proposal,

(24:46):
you know that would be so Travis, explain what Jason's
idea was, or what you believe Jason was Jason's ide Yeah,
So what I thought Jason's idea was inside two minutes,
if the offense didn't gain a yard, the clock would stop.
Then you know, this would I mean that victory O'Neil
downs would essentially be uh no, you you couldn't run
out the clock with it. And then you said you

(25:08):
shot it down and I think it's a shooting it down.
Shooting it down. Okay, yeah, so it wasn't. But that's
but that's that was the Arena League for how many
years the Arena League was in existence. So it's not
you're not you know, you're not. It's it's not slight spread.
It's just it's most of these most of these rules
have been tried in all these other leagues and then

(25:30):
the league's disappeared. People like me who didn't watch the
Arena Football League, I'm sorry, you know, I don't I
don't remember that. But but you who is the rules guru.
That's why I come to you. These things give us
stuff to talk about. But I'm glad that they're having
the discussion and they're thinking of things to to kind
of fix. You know, that was something we talked about
at the XFL. We went through, um we ultimately landed

(25:51):
on the five second hold on place, you know, inside
of two minutes, But we talked about that, you know,
the Arena League where you had to you know, if
you don't gain yardage, the clock is going to stop,
and so it incentivizes teams to attempt to gain yardage.
It eliminates the kneel down altogether, because there's just there's
no there's no benefit to it. Um And and clock
rules are interesting. You you you want to the whole

(26:13):
goal When you look at clock rules, right, it's too
conserve plays in the critical juncture of the game. Because
if you can conserve plays, then you get you give
the offense that's behind the opportunity more plays, needs more
opportunities to come back, and more opportunities to come back
means closer games, more exciting finishes, and that's what that's
what we would want. And so that's why I look

(26:35):
the onside alternative. I'm not opposed to the concept. I
just think it's gimmicky. Um, I think it comes with
a whole host of problems. And look, this isn't when
you talk about players safety, nobody knows, nobody that there's
no They have not vetted out all the data, the
injury data to say that a fourth and fifteen play
is more is more safe than an onside kick. Nobody knows.

(27:01):
So it's just you can't sit there and say this
is a player's safety change and and look at the
onside kick. The chances there. Look when you when your
teams behind and they're lining up for an onside kick.
Are you not? Do you not get excited? Does that?
Is that not a play that that excites you? Hey?
I know it's it's like it's like Joe back in
the day when he saw the girl that was way

(27:22):
out of his league, and you see Joe like go
like go for it, like go up to her. We
knew the chance was was minor, very little excited, but
we're excited for him, right, We're excited. He's got a
less less than ten percent chance to make this happen,
but we're excited. And then when the ten percent hits,

(27:43):
it's the it's the greatest thing ever, Like it's it's amazing.
But you know that's that's just me that that's just
just how I think. It's like going to Vegas and
think you're gonna win at the casino or something. Right,
Just stick with teams analogy. Thanks exactly. Well, I was
just trying to say to the next segment, where about Vegas, Vegas,

(28:04):
Vegas helping him back up? Yes, there you go, we'll
do that after break all right, next on Good Calls, Vegas, Vegas, Travis,
we'll talk to us all about since city. What's coming
up next. All right, we're back on good calls. Before

(28:27):
the break, Travis was all excited. He was telling us
about Vegas and Vegas is open up. I don't know
if you know this about Travis, but he like he
goes to Vegas like once every I don't know, six
years goes. But when he goes, it's like balls out,
like there's no stopping him. So we we started nicknaming

(28:48):
him Travis Vegas Travels. Okay, VT, so VT, tell us
what's happening with Vegas. Some of that's true. Some of
that's from a past life about Vegas. Have think the
last time I arrow was with my wife, we sayed
at the South Point. You guys probably never even heard
of that. It's a family establishment only anyway anyway, travels

(29:11):
like remember remember my trip to Vegas. Honey at the
south Point and the buffet, how those those they had
acoustic music. But the at the pool it was so nice,
dollar beers, it was lovely. The Jimmy Buffett Band, the
Tribute band. Oh my honey, we gotta go back. That

(29:33):
sounds nice. It sounds really ten You're anniversary, We'll go back.
Joe is over there, get throwing up Rhino and alright, alright,
so what is Vegas? And then let's get to the match. Anyways,
boxing is are going to resume in June. They've they've
set some dates for June nine, but no fans, No fans. Yeah,

(29:55):
five fights at the MGM, No fans. So they're they're
taking the h the same approach as the UFC, moving
forward getting So does that mean the UFC, the UFC
can't be far behind back in Vegas? I mean, I'm
sure they like, um, you know, having the control right there,
have been having it in Orlando, but god, I would
hope they'd want to get back to Vegas as soon

(30:16):
as possible. Yeah, you think so. I mean that the
fights were fine in Florida at this point. It's like
if no fans can jackson that's right, not Orlando, Jacksonville. Yeah,
if if no fans can be there, what what difference
does it make? Yeah? I guess you're right. Um, But Okay,
the match, the Brady Michelson Manning Woods match, I watched.

(30:36):
I didn't watching the beginning. I forgot it was on
actually I was with the kids. And then I watched
the last I guess like the last four or five holes. Um,
it was fine. I guess I missed all like the
funny stuff because the last four or five holes they
were just playing golf like they were. I like the

(30:58):
pace they were going quickly draining. Um, you know, I
thought it was like I thought it was well produced.
Um it was interesting. I like Charles Barkley, you know,
being on it though Justin Thomas was interesting as the
on you know, the basically on the Corse reporter, uh,
and just the interaction. But I mean it was fine.
And I'm not a golf fan and it was fine.

(31:19):
I enjoyed it. And you know, they were hitting good
shots like Peyton and Brady didn't. I know, I guess
Brady kind of stunk it up early on. But yeah,
but I guess you know, when it counted, they were
they were fine, like they're they're good golfers, like they're
you know, I don't. I don't golf, so I don't know,

(31:40):
but they were. It was fine. I didn't you know,
it wasn't the greatest thing, but I like people are,
you know today, I feel like any any live sports
um is like you remember the Eddie Murphy Remember the
Eddie Murphy bit. When I think it was raw when
he talked about he talked about not having like you're
not having set for a while, and then it's the

(32:01):
best sex you've ever had. And he's like if somebody
throws you, He's like, if you stop and then somebody
throw you a cracker, you know, like, god, damn, that's
the best tack I've had. In fact, that's how we
are with live sports right now. Right it's like everything is,
oh my god, remember the Nicholson Brady Love Live whatever.
That's why I think this last dance actually sucked and

(32:22):
people just like it because of what's going on right now.
We put that on the bed last week. The fall
out though, with the last dance fall out, think about it,
think about what's been happening. Pip Scottie Pippen his pissed.
Horace Grant is pissed. He Scotty Barrell is pissed. All
these Craig Hodges, all these former Bulls are pissed because
how this this put They showed Jordan in this light.

(32:46):
They said that oh he was so you know, he
was driving like he would put these guys in their place,
and these guys are like, no, people would go back
at him. But they didn't show any of that stuff,
the pizza getting, you know, food poison, and they're saying
that's not real. You know, like this whole thing, like
stop Lebron. Lebron is better than Jordan's. That's what it's

(33:07):
driven me towards. Jordan said, everyone's gonna think he was
an asshole after watching the documentary. I think only his
former teammates think he's an asshole. I don't think anything
differently of him, Like, yeah, it's just again, it is
what it is. But you know, speaking of basketball, though,
I'm just happy to report that one of my favorites,
and Joe and I talked about it the week, and
Patrick Ewing is out of the hospital. He did have

(33:28):
he did have corona. He's out of the hospital. He's
recovering and so hopefully, you know, everybody but special special
recovery prayers to Patrick Ewing. That guy was. I still
feel bad that he couldn't. Oh, they just just win one.
If they win one, if if starts doesn't go to
for for whatever it was in two for seventeen against

(33:50):
the Rockets, and yeah, alright, alright, we come get back
with us, get back with us. You were in a
good place. Come on, Okay, what what else is going on?
MLB update, Travis, Let's get let's go through the majors
other than other than football will be you have the
facilities are starting open up for individual workouts. So that's

(34:11):
that's the step in the right direction. You could have
all these guys back in their facilities by early June.
But that's still gonna come down to that. That that's
I think is still gonna be the biggest fight in
terms of the revenue share, right. I think that's still
the biggest hurdle obviously the health stuff. But players want
their full salaries that they were guaranteed, and owners won

(34:32):
half of the revenue, so there they have a ways
to go. I feel like but the I didn't. I
did see. It wasn't interesting. I saw one report. Look
that you could get players if players say I don't
feel comfortable and I don't play the league's they won't
stop them, at least baseball won't stop them, but they're
not gonna get paid. So could you imagine like Mike

(34:55):
Trout sitting out because he doesn't feel comfortable and then
not getting paid but the Angels continue to play like
that would be insane? Like that, would you just have
like minor league players come up and players I don't
you have you have to feel the roster. I don't know,
you have such a huge impact on the sports gaming world.
Two Like that would just be enormous. It would be yeah,
because then you think, yeah, it would it would be

(35:18):
pretty instanct. It's betters would lose it. Betters would lose
it if they're taking the season total overs or hey
I got this team to win that. I mean, it
would just that's kind of unintended consequences team you when
you bet you take those risks, right, I mean injuries
always happened with those types of things too, but we
all kind of get that. But this you take, you

(35:40):
take the season over, and then Mike, if you take
the season ohe from the Angels and Mike Trout blows
an a C l in in in the third week
of the season, guess what that's that's we we know
that as betters. But if Mike trusts, you know, I
don't want to play because I'm scared I'm gonna get
it flew COVID night team flew, that would really be

(36:01):
that would that would really upset me. The thing that's
great is if you bring up these minor leagu guys
who maybe never got a chance because they're sitting behind
Mike Trout and they're never gonna get a chance to play.
Those guys are gonna come out through something that here's
the Travis. Travis, that the motivational speaker. That that Jim Nelson,
who's sitting who's sitting in the Angels minor league waiting

(36:24):
minor league organization, who's been sitting behind Mike Trout, who
will continue to sit behind Mike Trout until Mike Trout retires.
Um is now going to get his chance and he's
going to be all world. He's gonna get traded. That
he's gonna get traded to another team. You think about
if Drew Bledsoe would have never got hurt. We couldn't
have not been watching Tom Brady. Guess who Guess who

(36:50):
was at the game as the replay official when Drew
Bledsoe did get hurt. Who was that be? This guy?
The start of the Brady the start of the Brady
error was right in line with the start of the
Blandino error. Look what we both accomplished. Congratulations, I'm in Arizona.

(37:12):
With Joe on Sunday and Brady making millions of dollars
playing golf with Tiger Woods. I don't think when they
donated every it made, you actually won that day. What's
that you actually won that day? On that day? Kids
have a great time on the water, fantastic. I have

(37:35):
good days. I can't complain. I've had a good I've
had a good run. I'm happy. All right, let's go NHL.
I like this they actually approved something. Yeah, last week
they approved on let's see here on their sorry I
lost my spot here. Last week they approved the NFL
or so the NHL conference bad. You're reading comprehension problems, Travis.

(38:02):
Is there something you're not telling us? Because sometimes sometimes
I think, here's what I think. Sometimes I think you
were a special needs child and you worked your way
up to That's why, that's why he's such a positive guy.
You overcame, but every once in a while you slip
back because you're like you're squinting, You're like getting real

(38:26):
close to the screen. Like even when we were doing
the readings, we were doing the auditions, it was like
you're acting wasn't great, but you're reading was awful. Like
what I can't see very well. I need to get
glasses and it's a problem. There you go. Alright, So
so NHL right approved to twenty four team conference based

(38:48):
playoff format. The future negotiations are gonna come on teams. Uh,
they're now open the facilities to small groups right in
early June. June max is six players, that's that's right.
And this twenty four team formats kind of cool because
it gives the four um leaders in each each division
to buy and then it'll be a sixteen game or

(39:10):
sixteen team playoff with five teams are seriously five Yes,
it's weird. We gotta get this is I'm gonna get
like some remedial reading, you know classes. We're gonna we're
gonna start I don't know what before when you put
your inn kids to bed and your wife kiss your

(39:32):
wife tonight, then you're not gonna do a zoom and
I'm gonna read to you, okay, and we're gonna go through.
We're gonna start it like a you know, Lucas in
third grade. He's like, you know, it's like an H
or they do letters now, So we'll start you on
like an H and then we'll work our way up.
I might need to start earlier than that, all right,
And then what the heck is going on with the NBA?

(39:53):
Are we gonna see NBA basketball? It's hard to say.
It's hard to say. The NBA dumb forever. I can't
imagine they're gonna be done. No, there's there's no official update,
but they may have, Like there's a report saying there
could be a sixteen see playoff format, which which would
be cool because then they would get rid of the

(40:15):
the the conferences and they were just factoring the one
through sixteen throughout the entire NBA. He was the struggle
just to get that out. It was here, have you
been drinking? Have he had a glass of wine today?
He told me already? Did you like either that? Or you?

(40:36):
Are you having a stroke? Should we should we call
nine one one? I I would laugh with you guys,
but I'm not sure what's going on. I think he
I think you're indep he Okay, sob a no official,
no official update, but they've been talking about sixteen. You know,
I heard that Michael Jordan was going to bring the
league back. He was gonna suit up so that the

(40:57):
rest of the league would come back. Into there you go.
We wanted was more Jordan's that's that's I'm um, I'm
with Karl Malone on this. When I saw I saw
an interview with Karl Malone, you know, he declined to
be a part of the Last Dance and then somebody
was interviewing him and they were like, um, when you
when you hear the words Michael Jordan, what do you

(41:18):
think of? And he's like, Michael Jordan's what, Like what enough? Jordan? Like,
you know, like I don't think I'm not special? And
I'm like, damn right, carl One. Thing that was interesting
about that show. I know we're passing now, but Carl
Malone was huge. He was a giant nude. When you
watch him in that show and kind of compare every whales,

(41:39):
he was a monster. Carl Malone was a beast. Look,
the bottom line is Michael Jordan dominated in an era.
If he would have been if he would have been
one hour earlier, he would not have dominated. Bottom line
a Right, Look, they lost, they got swept by the
Celtics two years in a row. Right, they lost three
out of four to the Pistons. They never beat the
showtime Lakers. End the story move on. All right, um,

(42:04):
college football SEC. Are we gonna see you know, are
we gonna see SEC and and and Big Ten and
these big conferences UM playing football without uh you know,
some of these smaller conferences having the ability to get
back and get back on campus. You know, I know what, Travis.
The SEC is resuming voluntary student athletes sometime in June

(42:28):
and eight is what they've approved at this point. So
you could see it. Yeah, I mean I think I
think certainly, depending on the states, I think activities might resume.
I just don't. I can't envision college football coming back piecemeal.
I just don't. I don't see that. I can see
certain universities maybe if if certain universities are not having

(42:51):
UM kids on campus and they can't play, But I
can't see you know, a whole conference UM not being
able to play football and college football, you know, continuing
that way. So we'll see and then and then very importantly,
the the CPBL or or Chinese Professional Baseball League. Your

(43:12):
your rocket tud monkeys lost two in a row, Travis. Maybe,
like my reading skills, that's slipping, you know, like they
they're they're falling apart. Maybe you know, they're still they
still got they still got a four game lead in
the win column. But losing two in a row, you know,
that's I think. I think it's time to panic. I

(43:32):
think the Rockett Monkeys might be might be in trouble
to fall from grace and nobody wanted to see, right,
I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm not sure how
many I didn't think much about CPBL until Corona. But
how many games do they play? And how how many
they have left? Do you know? Do I need to

(43:53):
go back to my power point from three weeks ago?
I can't remember. My reading comprehension is no good. It's
I think it's like an eight game season. Um. God,
that could be that. That that's just from membery. I
don't have it up. Um. And then, lastly, before we
take a break, Nationals reveal their World Series rings. Did
you see did you see the design? Let me read it? Well,

(44:16):
I saw the story, so I pulled up what I
believe is the ring. Okay, so do you want to
describe it? Travils? So you're feeling okay, I'm not really
I'm not really the uh oh wow, oh now I'm
looking at it. It's got baby shark on the inside.
What's that okay? So here here you go that that's

(44:38):
what that's okay. So you have thank you, so so
you have this is this is the details of the ring.
So it has the cursive w logo. Logo has thirty rubies,
which represents the thirty runs that they scored in their
four World Series game victories over the asterisk. Okay, that's cool. Cool.
Surrounding the Nationals logo is a ring of thirty two sapphires,

(44:59):
which is some total of the team's two thousand, nineteen
walk off wins, shutout wins, longest winning streak, and postseason rounds. Okay,
alright cool. Additional hundred eight diamonds symbolizing the team's a
hundred and five regular season and postseason wins, plus one
for the World Series championship and two more in a
nod to the franchise's history, the exposed and the previous

(45:23):
version of the Washington Nationals Okay great, There are twelve
rouviees on each end, the team's total number of postseason wins. Great.
The ring also depicts some of Washington, DC's most iconic landmarks,
with the Roman numerals M m VT placed within the
Capitol Building to represent the year two thousand six that
the Learner family purchased the franchise. Awesome words Fight Finished

(45:46):
or feature prominently in diamonds, which was something um that
they had. The kind of a team motto stay in
the fight um appearing along the ring palm is the
team's mantra, go one go one zero every day. But
the interior of the ring includes a symbol of a
shark holding the Commissioner's Trophy and honor of outfielder Gerardo

(46:06):
pires walk up song, Baby Shark? What the flump is
that baby? Not a lot of stuff going on in
those rings? Baby shark? I know, give it homage, just
something with the expose you couldn't do. The baby shark
is part of your your ring, but at least they

(46:28):
put it on the inside of the rings so you
don't have to look at it. Um. But it's the
baby that's bad. Like that that song so annoying. I
will not will not let my daughter listen to it.
She does, she stopped asking for because I'm like, no,
you're not listening to that's that's it's ridiculous. You won't
have kids that read like I do. Let them listen
to baby Shark. Yeah, hopefully you Hopefully your wife is

(46:51):
the one teaching your kids, because I don't want a
couple of you literally illiterate kids like you are. All right,
let's go to Let's go to break. When we come down.
When we come back, we'll talk the three second rule
dead after the pandemic next on Good Calls. All right,

(47:22):
we're back on Good Calls. Have a serious, serious supportant question.
Um where this is a rules podcast. I'm a rules guy.
I want to ask you, guys, after the pandemic, after
everything that that's happened, when this is all said and done,
is the three second rule over? Are you sure it's
not the five second p I review? Is it dead?

(47:45):
Isn't it the five second rule? Dem? You're talking about
the one you drop you dropped food on the floor.
It's some people say five. If you look at the
Araban dictionary, it's three. I've used both. Let's just let's
just call it the three second rules for purposes. I'm
just making sure that you're the three seconds in the
key that Patrick you want used to always no no no,
no, no no, no no. We're not talking about that. Okay,

(48:06):
But but is the concept dead not to me, not
to mean certain in there's certain places if you drop something,
you're not going to pick it up. But that that's
the rule. Right. You can look at the rule book.
The rule book is made up of sections, articles, and
in each article you could have notes, you could have

(48:28):
um exceptions. There's exceptions, right if if if you're at
a gas station bathroom, right, the three second rule doesn't
whatever hits the floor, it's all done, right, And if
you do that in any public bathroom, you're disgusting and
you probably I don't know, you probably shouldn't. I don't

(48:49):
even know. I don't even know what what you should do,
I shouldn't do. But a normal you know, you're at
work or you're at home, and it hits the floor?
Are is any are you not? Are you not adhering
to the three second rule because of you're worried about
now the germs that could cause. So I think what's
going to happen is I think all of these rules

(49:10):
are going to have this very strange path to becoming
live again. Just for instance, we all we all hung
out this weekend, a bunch of us, and I know
you know before pre COVID, you see you know one
of our friends. Hey, what's up? You give a hug? Now?
People are like, I don't know really what to do?
Are you cool with me hugging you? Are we doing
the elbow bump? What are we doing? And I think

(49:32):
that all those types of rules are going to kind
of people are going to take or that the end
of the Michaelson deal the match. Did you see them?
They didn't know what to do. It was like it
was like a fist bump elbow nobody knows what they're
doing kind of thing. I just going for the hugs,
growing deal. Just I'm fine, So I you know, giving

(49:58):
you a big hug, Travis, I have it really, so
as long as it's been as long as it's been
two weeks since he hung out with Joe, he seems
to Travis, Joe has his own role. So here's three
second rules. Not dead, Travis. Here's a funny story from
from the weekend. We were all sitting on the back
of our buddies porch and he's got the Hey Google
thing and somebody said, Hey Google, who was Dean Blandino?

(50:23):
And it says Dean Blandino is the x XFL had
of officiating. We said that was the first thing that
came up, the first thing that came up. And then
and then we were we all started laughing because it
didn't say anything about the NFL, and then we redid it,
and then it actually did say and the former that's

(50:45):
the most recent thing that's happened to me, the the
and the X head of officiating for the XFL. So UM,
I was really podcast would have been cool, but Joe
was Joe was shut down. Joe has Joe's like competitive guy, right.
And there was these younger kids, these kids that are

(51:07):
you know, in their twenties or even younger. One kid
was going to Arizona State to play football in and Joe,
you know, Joe thinks he could be in the NFL
tight end if you were four inches taller. So Joe,
of course um decided that he was gonna run some
routes and and and he said this kid couldn't stop him.
I didn't see it. I just heard about it. But
Joe thinks it was clearly defensive holding or illegal contact

(51:31):
and that's why he didn't catch the pass without question.
And it was a terrible pass. Okay, So so Joe's
like the diva receiver that because he didn't catch the pass.
It was the quarterbacks fall and it was the officials.
First of all, the past was nobody would have caught
the past. Secondly, the dude shoved me down about eight
yards downfield, like shove. This guy was, I was. He

(51:53):
was so big, Travis. I was calling him fake rock.
He was all tall and buff and still I was
to get I went right past him and then he
shoved me down. I don't like. I didn't see. There
was a there was a controversy. Joe cheated. We what's
the name of that game? Joe? Which game? The frisbee
game the first beginning. I don't know the name of it.

(52:16):
It's I think it does have a name, but I
don't know. If you throw you throw a frisbee at
a PBC, it's some Travis. You would love it because
it's some super white people. Ship you get over that.
I do. I do. I like the game. But Joe
and and um, how did I cheat? This is you
put too much water in the camp? Oh my god,

(52:38):
you're really going there. So it's like two PVC pipes.
You put home pipe in the in the water in
the sand, and you put a beer can on top
of the PBC pipe. You put some water in it
so it could wind doesn't blow it over. And you're like,
I don't know, fifteen feet apart apart, and you have
two people on each team and of a frisbee and

(53:01):
you played one and you throw that. You have to
have a can in your hand, you know, any kind
of beverage can um and you throw the frisbee and
you have to knock the other teams can off into
the water. You can hit the pipe or you can
hit the can itself. The other team has to catch
your frisbee if it doesn't hit the pipe. With the can,

(53:23):
you can catch the can out of the air before
it hits the water. And the way you score points
is the team doesn't catch the frisbee. That's one. You
hit the pipe and the can hits the water. That's two.
You hit the can and it hits the water. That's three.
And you played the twenty one sounds fun? You know
it is fun. And who's in your team, Jail, I
forget it was you. Yeah. So they they basically we

(53:47):
beat them the first game and they were all upset,
and then they beat us the first game and they
were like they were beating everybody and they were the
champs and blah blah blah. And then me and this
guy Ed came in like I've played the game once
in my life, and we came in and just dominated them,
like beat them like bad, and so Joe is all upset.

(54:09):
And then we have the rematch and they won, but
they cheated because they filled their can up with so
much water that even if you hit the pipe, it
wasn't falling. Sounds pretty sketchy. There's actually there that's a
judgment call. There's not like an actual percentage of thechnic
can be full. And by the way, you guys, we
smoked you guys. It wouldn't even you could have put no. No,

(54:31):
it was a good game. There was some high level
stuff going on. It was a high level game. I
will give you that. You you played that game, well,
I'd love to know what it's called. I'll get the
name for you. And I think we might maybe we
should have Dean right, like an official rule book for
that game. I think that that might not be a
bad idea. Come up with a name and I write
the rules. Do it. I want to play. And then

(54:54):
I'm hearing about that game. I guarantee I'll beat both
of you at it. Oh gosh, it is it is
a game. I think Travis would He's like I said,
it's a it's it's it's a white it's a very
white game when Travis likes white people stuff. But but
Travis wouldn't make it because you're in the sun and
he would be sun burned fifteen minutes in the game

(55:16):
with that. No, he definitely, I would have sunscreen or
layers on. Travis would need to write, he would need
the right the right gear, long sleeve, rash guard. Yes,
see him he hit water, he'd be in a Yeah,

(55:36):
he'd be in an exactly all right, So um as
suits are in right now? Anything good you guys are watching?
I watched that. I watched love Birds the other night
on Netflix. It's a it's a new movie out that
he was supposed to go to theaters, and I'm glad
it didn't go to theaters because I would have been
disappointed if I had to pay money for it. It

(55:57):
was entertaining a bit. But who's in it? What's it's that?
That dude from Don Blanket on the name Silicon Valley.
The is he the Indian guy. Oh yeah, what's his name?
He's in there, he's great. And then there's a there's
a black comedian, she's in I can't remember her name.

(56:19):
She was good too, But this is this Travis. I mean,
you learn somebody's name. Why did you just you just
nicked the you know, the Indian guy and then this
black comedian and you know who's next is Asian chick?
Like what, Travis? What are you doing? I can't remember
their names that I'm sorry I could. Unbelievable. You know

(56:43):
what I've been watching Dean is um It's detail on
ESPN plus Kobe Bryant created it or whatever, and he
started with basketball. They got Daniel Cormier and they're breaking
down different fighters. Super interesting, really cool to watch if
you're a fight fan, can you me? It's really smart?
He obviously you know he's he does commentary. He did

(57:05):
it when we when he was with us at Fox
Sports and now ESPN and and does it um UFC
fights and uh yeah, I'll check it out just in case.
You know, Travis, Daniel Cormy is the big black dude
that fights and beats people up. Just so you know,
that's how Travis would be to know. I know it's
Guy's I know it's guy. You're talking about Travis. Unbelievable.

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All right, um, let's let's go to brain of blend.
You know, worst times to sneeze, worst times to sneeze? Now, okay, anytime? Now?
Thought that was appropriate? Yeah? Appropriately? So I'm not thinking
about that yet, sneezing, but think about Okay, so I
was brushing my teeth and I sneeze. Does that ever

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happen to you? No? When you little time, it's it's horrible.
You spray toothpaste all over the mirror. It's awful. So
it got me thinking, like, what are some other times?
What are some other bad times to sneeze? When you
are first someone going in for first kiss, it's a
good one. You're eating, like in the middle of a

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chew or a bite. What would be bad food to sneeze?
Soup would be bad, you know, you know, would really
be bad bad foods It seems to be um like
sushi because you have rice and raw fish just file
over the place, and possibly some sabbi and ginger depending
on your style. That would be bad and the and

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the sabi would make you sneeze. What what else it
would be another bad time to sneeze during I guess right.
Number one answer? Is that going to be the thing?
Now when everybody does get back and somebody's sneezes and
you don't like people, you're gonna have to be so
over the top when you cover like you're literally gonna

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have to have like throw up a swinge tream when
you sneeze. Right, when you're around people and you sneeze,
are you gonna feel comfortable and not doing going over
the top? Imagine being in coach, in the middle of seat,
in the middle seat after this and sneeze. How much
you like this? That's the question? Is the middle seat dead?

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Forget about the five second one? Was the middle seat gone?
I don't know. I don't know. I can't see airlines
giving up those seats. I look for a flight today,
the regularly five hundred bucks. What's going on? I thought
they're supposed to be cheap for a flight, Yeah, Costa Rica?
Oh god? Yeah? Any other bad times to sneeze? Come on?

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How I think we're all thinking it? Yeah? He said, Yeah,
he said during sex, which could bring us to our
other story of that we had talked about this week.
On text message about the sex dolls. Oh, I thought
you were talking about the text message the other text

(01:00:12):
message that we got that we read this weekend. I
don't know what happened. They put blow up dolls in
the stands of the Korean baseball game. Yeah, it's it's
it's crazy like And the reason they got in trouble
for is because it's not a spot, it's not a
sanctioned sponsor, so they were they were saying the name
the names of the They had signs with the names
of the dolls, So that's why they got in trouble.

(01:00:33):
They probably would have got the names like like the company,
you know, the company made the company who made them.
This is Cinnamon up here, and this is Veronica and
this is what so the company, So they like, I
get it. Look, where are you going to get fake
people where you can get a lot of fake people
on short notice? Mm hmm right, it seems logical to me.

(01:00:59):
Just just don't promote them, I guess I just don't
promote them, don't put them. Did they put them in
like weird poses or were they just like normal fans?
They were just normal fans. I can understand if they
had like you know, legs behind their back and stuff
like that. You can get like manikins, but blow up
dolls are probably cheaper. That's what I said. Where you
gonna get cheap fake people on the quick blow up dolls? Boom.

(01:01:24):
It was a great idea for a while, right. You know,
you know there are people that have used blow up
dolls and t U V H O V lane. You
know that's happened. You know what I did, Well, I
didn't use a blow doll, but I put a baby
seat and then I took a like a you know,
a child doll, put it in the car seat. Yeah. Yeah,
let's go speeding down. But now that I have a Tesla,

(01:01:47):
I don't really need that need that anymore. I got
the stickers. Wow, we haven't talked about the Tesla and
so long I feel like the missing because Elon Musk
like leaving, isn't he isn't he moving everything to exists
or something Texas And there's one other um one other place.
He's looking at two places. But I might actually might

(01:02:10):
be selling the Tesla. So anybody out there wants a Tesla,
it's some lucky there's some lucky person out there in
the world. I'll give you. It's gonna get Joe Madrid's
Tesla's Travis sells, Travis. I've been thinking about geting a car,
and I'll put my range Rover tires on it. It's
already got tired. Do it, bronze the asking price, whatever

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the payoff is, old man, Well we're got a deal.
We got a deal off line. I'll broke with the
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