July 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Today’s episode features Sarah’s conversation with UConn women’s basketball star Azzi Fudd from this weekend’s live show in Indianapolis. They discuss how winning a national championship showed her a different side of Geno Auriemma, how Fudd handles moments of self-doubt, how working with a sports psychologist changed the game, and using her famous friends (cough *Paige Bueckers* cough) to help get guests for her new podcast, Fudd Around and Find Out. Plus, Unrivaled makes some monster NIL signings, the American women’s mile record goes down, and bros with zero brain cells get deservedly dragged.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where no jump
shot have in tiny intellect possessing bros who don't know
jack about the WNBA need to keep their mouths shut
about what W players deserve and what w players have earned.
It's Tuesday, July twenty second, and on today's show, we're
bringing you my interview with Yukon Star Azy Fudd from
this weekend's live show in Indianapolis. We discussed how winning
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a national championship showed her a different side of coach
Gino Oriema, how she handles moments of self doubt, how
working with the sports psychologists changed her game, and what
kind of guests we can expect on her new podcast,
Butt Around and find out page backers plus loaded questions.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The second half is upon us and how.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
To lose while still breaking a record. It's all coming
up right after this welcome back slices. Here's what you
need to know today. Let's start with the WNBA as
ten teams are returning to action tonight following the All
Star break, marking the official start of the second half
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of the season. The five games tonight are headlined by
All Star MVP and a Visa Collier and her league
leading links hosting the Chicago Sky at eight pm Eastern.
Same time, the Indiana Fever visit All Star three point
champs Sabrini and Escu and the New York Liberty.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You can catch that one on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Ahead of that Fever Liberty contest, Indiana coach Stephanie White
said Caitlin Clark is likely to be out again, still
recovering from that right growing injury she sustained last week.
We'll link to the full slate of games in the
show notes. More WNBA ESPN's Alexa Philippoo reported on Monday
that Belgian player Emma Mesaman is set to return to
the WNBA and will play for the New York Liberty.
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Per Philippoo's sources, Mesamon's arrival in New York is subject
to the time it takes for her visa to get approved.
Meisiman previously played seven seasons with the Washington Mystics, earning
Finals MVP honors in twenty nineteen following the Sticks championship win,
and she also played one season for the Chicago Sky
in twenty twenty two. She's fresh off leading Belgium to
a second straight EuroBasket title. Earlier this summer and was
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named tournament MVP. Also on Monday, the Liberty signed Stephanie
Talbot to a rest of season contract after Talbot was
waived by the Valkyries last week. More w The Athletic
conducted a survey of WNBA players, asking thirty nine veterans
for their opinions on a variety of topics, and the
results are fascinating. In response to the question, aside from
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your own, what is the league's most well run organization,
twenty eight percent of respondents went with the Phoenix Mercury,
while twenty five percent chose the New York Liberty. It's
worth noting that polling began at the start of the
season and continued, so the players who were polled earliest
might not have thought about the Golden State Valkyries as
one of the best run teams then, but might consider
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them now based on what we've seen from that team
through just half a season of existence. As for the
worst run organization, a whopping forty percent selected the Chicago
Sky while twenty nine percent chose the Connecticut Sun.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No surprise is there.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The Athletic also asked players what issue is most important
in the upcoming CBA and seventy percent of players selected
higher salaries. As for which player will be the face
of the WNBA in five years, fifty three percent went
with Caitlin Clark, while rising USC junior Juju Watkins received
seventeen percent of votes. We'll link to the Athletic Survey
stories in the show notes, so make sure you check
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them out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Lots of good stuff in there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Also, you can check out the Athletic Women's basketball show
No Off Season, where they did a couple episodes talking
about the research that they did and the results really good.
More hoops three on three league Unrivaled has announced thirteen
new NIL signings with current college players. The list is
headlined by the aforementioned Juju Watkins, UCLA's Lauren Betts, TCUs
Olivia Miles, and Yukon's asy fud In Sarah Strong. As
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part of the deal, the players will participate in a
summit hosted by the league this summer in addition to
shooting promotional content. We'll link to the list of all
thirteen players in the show notes. Now, this isn't the
first time Unrivaled as partnered with the Next Generation ahead
of the league's inaugural season, Juju Watkins was announced as
an investor in the league, while lsus FLA J. Johnson
joined Paige Beckers in signing the league's first two nil deals.
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Spend report that Johnson will continue our partnership with the league,
though unlike the first deal, this one.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Will not include equity in the league.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
These nil deals are a smart move by Unrivaled, establishing
a relationship early ahead of efforts to recruit top talent
to play when they become eligible. At their pop up
at All Star Weekend in Indie, Unrivaled also announced plans
to add two expansion teams in twenty twenty seven to.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Track and fields.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Over the weekend, US runner Sinclair Johnson broke the American
women's record in the mile, clocking four minutes sixteen point
three to two seconds at a Diamond League stop in London,
taking three hundredths of a second off the previous record
set by Nicki Hilts in twenty twenty three. But get this,
Johnson's time was only good enough for fourth place. Ethiopia's
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Gudoff Sagui won the race in four minutes eleven point
eight eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's the second fastest time in history.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
More news from the world of athletics. Kenyon runner Ruth Cheppingeditch,
the women's marathon world record holder, has been provisionally suspended
after she tested positive for a band diuretic. Now, while
diuretics are not considered performance enhancing on their own, they
are banned as they can be used to reduce detection
of other substances. Sheppin Getich's case will now head to
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a disciplinary tribunal, which will determine if she receives the
standard suspension of two years or a lighter punishment. We
got to take a quick break when we come back.
It's my conversation with Azy Fudd. I sat down with
her on Friday ahead of the weekend's all star festivities
stick Around.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I have the.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Honor of introducing my guest for today's show, the reigning
NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player, helping her Yukon team to
the twenty twenty five national title. She is now a
super senior pursuing both her MBA and another championship. A
former Gatorade National Girl Basketball Player of the Year, she
got her first college scholarship in sixth grade. That was
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when the offer started. Host of the brand new podcast
fut around and find out the people's princess.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
It's easy fun.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm so excited to talk about the podcast, but first,
let's just talk about your championship summer.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
What's been the most fun thing you've done as a champion.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh my gosh, I've done some incredible things, but I
feel like just waking up every day and being like
I want a national championship, Like nothing tops that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I mean that feels pretty good, except for SODA's.
You know, like going on cool shows and meeting celebrities.
Have you gotten to do some of that too?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
When I was in New York, we went to a
Broadway show, or first we went to dinner at say Less, Yeah,
say Less, and we got to meet Alicia Keys, and
then she invited us to our Broadway show.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That was really cool, incredibly cool.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it was hard to like keep my chill, Yeah
I did.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Is there a celebrity that slid into your.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
DMS or sent you a message after the title that
you're particularly excited to hear from.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I did get some really sweet messages, but I think
one of the cooler ones was being posted on Barack
Obama's story, Like it was just random, like I wasn't
expecting it, and like he didn't like send a message
or anything.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But just to see that was really cool. It's nice
to know he's watching. Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, like
Obama knows who I am.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Exactly did you get to hear from your namesake, Jennifer Ezy?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She did reach out. I think I'm pretty sure she
was hard to keep track. Yeah, I'm really bad.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
With Yeah, tell us that story about being almost destined
for basketball greatness from the moment you were given that name.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So, Jennifer Easy was my mom's favorite player growing up,
and she met her one time at like some All
American care and right away she was like, I have
a daughter. I'm gonna name her Easy. I just stuck
with her, and I'm really glad she did.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I love my name.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So thank you, mom, Thank you Jennifer Easy. But yeah,
I mean, both my parents are coaches, they both played
college and professionally. So I grew up in a gym,
grew up with the name like I really it was
meant to be.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Was there ever a moment when you were a kid
where you were like that's enough basketball, or like I
don't feel like doing it today? Or was it always
something that you were into just as much as they were.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I actually didn't want to start playing basketball, like I said,
they coached, so I grew up like watching going to tournaments,
watch them coach, and I didn't want to play because
I saw the way that they yelled at their players,
and I was like, I don't I don't want to
be killed at So they made me start playing, and
then once I started, I fell in love with it,
and I was really bad at first. I liked it
because I liked my friends and my teammates. And then
when they were like, let's let's get extra shots up
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after practice, I'd be like why why? And then I
learned to love the work and everything you put in.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So it took it. It took a minute, but I
love it. Something tells me you were never bad. I
feel like that's like when er models are like I was.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So awkward growing up and like we weren't. Something tells
me you always had it. How long did coach Gina
Oriama allow you to celebrate before calling or sending a
text about what to work on next?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He actually like they were very chill. All the alums
always told us like when you win a national championship,
like you're going to see a different side of them.
And that's kind of what it was like. We obviously
we went in and did stuff, but there was no
like usually or in the past we've lost in like
the next week, we're back in the gym because that's
what we want to do. But it was we would
work out when we wanted to, we'd go live together,
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and then it was like you just text and request one.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It was. It was kind of weird. It was weird.
This sounds like a kinder, gentler Gino.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And I had to say, we had him on the show,
and I was expecting more of the gruff old man
kind of guy that you hear about how tough it
is to play at Yukon and the standards that he said,
and he was so kind and nice and fun and
easy going. And I do think I've heard from players
who played for him back in the day that he
has gotten a little bit different as he's aged. What
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do you hear from the alums about the Geno they
got versus the one you're getting.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh, they have some great stories, the great stories, but
they definitely say that he has gotten a little nicer
over the years, they tell like horror story practice like
practice stories, and I'm just grateful that I didn't experience that.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But he don't let that fool you. He is sweet.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
He has his moments, but he is He still has
that toughness, that meanness in him.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He gets it out.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, he said he's had to adjust as players have adjusted,
And there's a lot of conversation about that. The players
back in the day right or wrong, and in some
cases wrong. We're used to the kind of coach that
just screamed and screamed and that young folks these days
are like, no, we're good.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
We don't really want to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And so do you think you fit into the stereotype
for the more new generation of player or do you
want someone to really get on you and tell you
what you need to work and make you cry sometimes
in pursuit of greatness?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Which what's your style?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I definitely want him to get on me, and that's
that's how I was raised with my parents coaching me.
They did yell at me, even though I didn't want that.
So that's what I like, Like, I want someone to
I need that criticism, tell me what I'm doing wrong
coming out, how I can fix it what I can
get better at, but he doesn't yell at me a lot,
which again I won't complain about. I won't complain about,
but I definitely do get a little bit easier than
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some of my other teammates well.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And also, like the coaches that want the most for
you and then are in tears when things go well
are the ones you want to work the hardest for
because you know it's that they like. It's just they
care and they and they want to see it be great.
This season was a huge one for you con before
you ever want it all, there was so much pressure
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already on the team, and there was a lot of
conversation in particular about trying to get pagebackers the title
before she graduated, This idea that she would be the
most decorated and celebrated player you who didn't end.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Up with a ring before she left.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Is that something y'all talked about openly, like we got
to win this for Page let's address this in the
locker room, or was it more of a just elephant
in the room that no one wanted to say out
loud but everyone knew, like we really want to do
this for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But also for her in her last shot.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that we talked about it too much.
I think it was just that thing that we all knew.
We all knew that was a goal. We all wanted
to win obviously, but then it was also that extra
like we wanted to do it for Page, for all
of our seniors, so it was their last go around
at it. So that was definitely the added like we
are such a close team that we want to do
everything for each other, and so that was we wanted
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to win, but it was even sweeter going to do
it with them for them.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Did you have any thought right after you won to like,
ooh should I just leave right now?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
On top?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Was there any part of you that was like, oh gosh,
now I got to go back and try again.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
No, Honestly, it was like it made me more excited
to come back to do it again. So I think
getting a taste of what that felt like, what that
was like, it was like, Okay, I go, we need
to do this again, we need to make this happen again.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And honestly, I can't imagine being like I don't really
want to play with Sarah Strong another year.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean that's like a that was on my
con list of saying it was like Sarah strong for
another year, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Should deal with whatever she's gonna bring in a second year.
You will be back for one more season and a
chance to go back to back. I'm sure you've heard
about the you know, championship hangover, how hard it is
to be hungry all over again, to want it as
badly once you've already won. How do you prepare yourself
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as the leader of next year's team to make sure
that those who already have one championship want another one
just as bad.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I think that our team is super special in a
sense that everyone is super motivated on like by themselves,
and I mean you have to have that just to
be at Yukon. But like you can tell, and just
in our summer workouts, like you could tell like, yeah,
we won a national championship, but in May, like they
were putting in work on their own. We came back
in June and we had some really great summer workouts,
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so it was really motivating to see to get that
kind of sneak peak of what the team's gonna look like.
But I think having everyone on the same Page that's motivated,
that's like locked in, like not letting the details and
the little things get brushed under the rug, like we're
addressing it. So I think we have a really good foundation.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Is it nice to be the big dog by yourself,
like the real og on the team now? Because you
know Page obviously, you guys had both been there a
long time and fought through various injuries and had these
great stories to get to the championship game.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But with her now onto the w you're the queen Bee.
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's weird? It's weird being the oldest. I don't know,
like I feel old. Like freshmen are coming in they're seventeen.
I'm like, oh, they're talking about all like the high
school slang and brain rot and I'm like, we're not
that much apart, but it feels like it.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But it is.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's gonna be weird not having her, obviously, but it's
gonna be fun and I'm super excited for what this
year is gonna hold for me.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Do you think you feel old? Now? Let me tell
you girl.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So, in addition to pursuing your MBA trying to get
another title, you're starting this podcast put around and find
out what can we expect? Tell us what you want
to talk about on the show.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm super excited, and I'm excited because I think
it's just a way for people to get to know
more about me outside of what you see on the court.
Get to know like what my day to day looks
like something, some stuff about my family. My teammates will
have different people on. So I think it's just gonna
be fun. It's gonna be light. I hope people enjoy
listening to it, but yeah, I'm just gonna get to
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know more about me.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Are there podcasts you like listening to that either you're
drawing inspiration from or you just are like, oh, that's fun,
Like maybe we'll do some of that some of this.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I like Cameron Brinks podcasts. I like her a lot.
But you've a podcast. You have two gifts for a good.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Game with Sarah Spin. Everyone's already subscribed. She's got merch on,
She's a slice. Our listeners are called slices. Don't steal that.
It also would it makes sense for your show, but
still don't don't steal it.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Do you have any suggestions for me? Any tips?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I would say, just be as authentic as you can be,
because everybody is there because they're already love you and
just want to know more, and letting people in on
stuff that you might even think is boring. Actually people
will love to hear about, like what are practices like?
And how are you balancing everything at school? And you know,
what are your friends who aren't athletes like on campus?
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And do you sometimes wish that you could just do
what they do and not have practice every day and
all the demands of sports, Like, it's surprising how much
people just want to hear what the real stuff, even
if it doesn't seem that exciting to you. And also
like use page and all your fancy friends to bring
all the other athletes on like this podcast. Sue Bird
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was the one who reached out to see if I
wanted to do it, and I was like, okay, but
I get your rolodex right and I haven't fully used it,
but I intend to. So make sure you use all
your fancy friends to help you book guests.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's my other tip.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
What are some of your favorite things that you want
to share with fans that they might not know about you?
Things you're into like TV shows and movies or food
or fashion.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, I do love food. I love to read. I'm
kind of getting into fashion, so that would be a
fun thing to talk about. But like, really, I plan
on talkic. I plan on being all over the place
from practice, class, my friends, my non athletic friends, my
art friends, really everything.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It feels like.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Also, the name fud around and find out. Every episode
you could have some sort of example of someone who
futted around and found out.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We're gonna have something like that. Okay, huh okay, all right,
I like that tease.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Also on the fashion side, I was talking to an
NWSL player recently, Ali sent Noor, and she was talking
about how exciting it was for the US Women's National
Team Players Association Ball that they had a stylist com
and just put racks and racks of clothes out and
she could pick anything, and it was her first time
really experiencing that. So I know you said you're just
getting into fashion. I think people would love to hear
stories about whether you're getting sent clothes to try on
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and wear, or whether you're kind of learning what your
own personal style is with the help of people, because
it's such a huge part of women's basketball now. Is
that something that feels natural to you the intersection of
basketball and fashion, or are you having to sort of
like kick the tomboy part out and embrace embrace the
other side of yourself.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't say natural. I mean, I wore
a skirt last night and a skirt today for the
first time probably since my high school uniform. So I'm
trying to branch out, trying to do more. I love
I love dressing up and doing that, but the whole
like picking out clothes and figuring out.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
That is where I need help.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So like a stylist, some of my teammates love fashion,
so they'll help me, But I do really want to
get into it worse.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's fun. It is, it is.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And I think also like the way that women athletes
are now able to sell things be great, you know,
advocates for brands and outline is because they're so authentically
themselves and we really believe what they're telling us they
like and care about and watch and listen to and
where in a way that I think like standard influencers
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were just kind of not buying it anymore. Like I
don't believe most of the people on the internet when
they say they use something, I'm like, Okay, we got
paid for this, whereas female athletes, I'm like watching them
play two hours with their makeup staying and I'm like, okay,
well there's an ad right there, like what is on
your face?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Let me go get that. And same with passion.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I think there's such an authenticity and realness to female
athletes that whatever they're wearing were.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Like, okay, we want that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So it feels authentic in a way that I think
back in the day when athletes were like overly sexualized
or were forced into a role that didn't feel authentic,
we didn't buy it. And now there's representation of all
kinds across every single part of women's sports, and that's
making for a lot of opportunities. And you have had
a lot of opportunities with brands already. How do you
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balance all the demands from different sponsors and brands that
you work with already, and how do you decide which
ones you want to say yes to when you get
new offers.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, I have a super amazing team and my family,
my parents do a lot to help manage that load
for me, especially during the season.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's tough, but I think.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Like my freshman year was definitely like the child years,
see how that went. And I've learned a lot about
you know, what I like things to take with me,
whether it's for a photo shoot, whether it's specific requests
for a brand. So kind of finding like learning what
you like, learning like what your non negotiables are, finding
brands that you want to align with, like that you
can like relate to, or that you want to put
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your name behind. Like I want to be proud of
the partnerships that I have. I don't want to be
embarrassed or be like, oh, like maybe I don't want
to put my name next to that. So I always
want to be proud of whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, that's very smarter.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Their teammates at Yukon or alums that you've asked advice
for on how they handle sort of the balancing of school, basketball,
brand deals, media all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I think a couple of really good resources have
been super and Renee Montgomery. They've been incredible and they
know so much and they also want to help. So
I think just getting to talk to them and picked
their brain a little bit has been amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
You picked two like moguls, like those aren't just a lums.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Those are team owners, multi hyphen it business women.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Is that something you aspire to later in your career?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I think that'd be incredible. I mean, I'm getting my MBA.
I don't know what I want to do with it.
I don't know anything besides hopefully you're playing pro. But
I think what they've been able to do and build
for themselves is so amazing and I definitely look up
to them and I want to be like them for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, you already have a company name, right, the People's
Princess TM. Right, we could trademark that. What's the origin
of that nickname? I actually don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I think Page made a comment about how I'm the
princess because coach doesn't yell at me, and somehow that
morphed into people calling me the Peopils says, Yeah, I'm
not really sure.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I know I'm not mad about it, though. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I think you can really lean into that whenever it's
useful for you, especially for like brands. You can figure
out if there's you know, if there's different activations or again,
like when you expanded to your multi hyphen a business
woman era, you could just sit on a throne and
order people around.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I like the sound of that. Yeah, yeah, all of
your minions.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You were at an espnW summit back in twenty nineteen.
You were part of what we call Voices of the Future,
which is all up and coming youngsters that we think one.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Day might have a future.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And honestly, it felt inevitable back then that you would
be sitting here a national champion on your way to
the W Has there ever been a moment throughout your
career from being a youngster.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
To now where you doubted that where you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Felt like I'm not going to make it or you
had fears that the hype was too much.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Definitely, And I think both of those times were when
I was hurt coming back. I think I even I
think I had a moment this past season where I
even doubted myself and not not like coming back, being
in the season like mid season, like this is I
don't know, but just having those moments, and I feel
like it really grounds you, like it really makes you reset,
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take a step back, look at things, and like, okay,
like take a deep breath.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I think what we marveled at was in those moments
where you were in a slump where things weren't quite right,
like you found yourself out of it and back on
top so quickly and re establish yourself so quickly, And
it felt like mentally you were in such a great
place to be able to say, shrug it off, not
a great night, and now I'm back. How have you
come to that kind of mindset? How have you found
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the best tools for yourself to make sure if you
have a bad night or if something feels off, you
don't linger in that well.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
First of all, I have an incredible support system around me,
with my teammates, my family. I also started to talk
talking to someone as we're talking to a sports psychologist,
and I think that's been the biggest game changer this
past year for me, Just like learning how to like
as an athlete, like you always wold to push through
and so you do. But being able to talk about
these things and figure out different strategies to be able
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to bounce back a little bit faster. I think that
has been just the biggest thing for me, So be
able to, you know, not let those things bother me
as much that I'm roll off like next one's going in.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Really believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You have accomplished so much at such a young age.
I love that you're like, yeah, I'll just get my MBA.
I don't really know why yet, but I'll figure that
out and then I'll use it for something while I'm
dominating the world in many other ways as well, which
is just so impressive for someone your age.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
How do you stay humble when necessary? How do you
make sure that the main thing stays the main thing?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Where you know that hoops is what got you here,
so you got to keep hooping and keep being great
and keep working to keep it going.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think a big reason for that are my parents.
They raised me that way of being humble and never
been one to brag or want to be in the spotlight,
like I will hype you up till I die. I
don't need to be get the attention. But I am
very aware that, you know, basketball is what got me here,
That's what's allowing me to do these incredible things, meet
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these amazing people, be here with you, so being able to,
you know, keep that the main thing, but also like
use that to my advantage as much as I can,
by having a podcast, by being here with you, by
doing all these cool things. But I think, like my parents,
they will never let me if I ever like, we're
even I missed the workout this morning and my mom
is not happy. So they'll make sure that the main
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thing is always the main thing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
All right, Mom and dad, we cannot do wind sprints
in these shoes. Okay, So don't get any ideas. The
exponential growth of women's sports is so exciting, but it
does bring with it some unsavory things. That includes gamblers
who are gambling on women's sports and reaching out to
the women who you know, had a bad game and
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they didn't hit their parlay, or folks who send toxic
messages to the opponents of their favorite players. How do
you stay grounded and not get overwhelmed by the number
of people watching your games and invested in the outcomes?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well, for me, when I play, I always get nervous,
but I think like taking a minute before the game
or even like at halftime to just like look around
the stadium and appreciate, like sometimes like just going through
the motions, like we're used to having a big crowd.
It's amazing, but being able to really take in like oh,
like there's fifteen thousand people here who paid for tickets,
Like took the time out of the day to come
to this game like that is special and I will
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always be grateful to have that. But also, yeah, fans
are crazy. Like I've had teammates I don't really check
my dms and stuff from Raynod. Well sometimes I do,
but that kind of thing. I've had teammates get death
threats after we lost last year or whatever in the
final four, and people just like people are not okay,
they need to have their phone taken.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Agree, Yeah, but what do we do about it?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There's so much conversation around it, but the behavior of
so many people doesn't change. So you have to have
your own way of navigating and your own approach to it.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And everybody is different.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Like some people literally like you said, don't read any comments.
Some people read them but are able to kind of
put them file them away as like I didn't ask
that person for their opinion, so why would I give
their opinion any space in my head?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
What's your approach?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
How do you figure out how to like interact with
fans or read the things you want to read without
letting it get you down?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean I love interacting with fans. When I
see messages like that, it's like these people are hiding
behind their screens. They couldn't live a day doing what
I do, and I'm fully aware of that. So, knowing
that the people around me, in my circle are the
only voices and opinions that matter to me, I think
that's where I don't let that stuff bother me.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Period. Look at that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're ahead of the game. We saw pagebackers in the trailer.
Can we expect her to be an early guest on
the pod?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. I got to use the people around me. Yeah,
what's that? So I have to use the cool people
around me? Yeah, so I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Saying, so you're already taking my tips. Wow, look at
that faster, fast learner.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Do you want to be on my pod? One? Okay, perfect,
get two people on my bot. Let's go, Well, who
else do you want to get on?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Let's hear some dream guests so that we can have
all the important folks in the room that might know them.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Hook you up. I'm gonna get Alicia Keys in the pod.
That your bff. Yeah, I'm my bff for besties. Excellent suggestion. Yeah,
your other bff.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I don't even know. I want like everyone though. Also,
I do have a super amazing co host Ashanti. She's
in here somewhere, so shout out to It's gonna be
a lot of fun. I'm remember really excited and we're
gonna have fun when you get on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Awesome, tell us about a shanty. We kind of just met.
Not all loss about podcasts setup. Yes, okay, but I
really like her.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay, First, she's got well, yes, very well, she's got
great energy. I think she's just gonna she's gonna bring
all the vibes of the show cool. I'm a little
more on the mellow side. So she's gonna good.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Okay, she's ready sugar and spice. Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So you don't have that many ideas for dream guests yet,
so we need to fill those in for you. I
would like you to get all the Hall of Fame
basketball players that came out of Yukon. Just start there.
That's nice and easy. And then do you want folks
outside of basketball? Do you want other athletes or celebrities?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I do?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I want everyone that sounded crazy like I think Cocoa
Golf would be a really cool one to have. I
love her, I do love her so definitely other athletes,
Like I wanna if there's like a foodie or something
to talk about books with. I want some of my
regular friends from campus.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I want yeah, yeah, cool. Well I just wrote a
book so we could talk about that when I come on.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, Perfect Runs in the Family by Sarah Spain and
Dela McCall.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I feel free to buy it. Well, we're so excited
for the podcast. We're so excited for.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Your final This is your final year at you gun right,
You're not going to pull any random extra years out
of your pocket.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And then the last thing I want to ask you
is about looking ahead. What's the dream for you? Like,
when you're thinking about what's next, do you operate a
year from now, six months from now, five years from now?
Like what kind of goals do you set for yourself?
Really far out or real close?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Both long term ones? And then before each year, I
set goals. And then, like I said before games, I'll
set goals, just have intentions. But I love I'm I've
been a goal setter for a while. I love having
like something in front of me to look at to
keep me motivated, and I remind myself of like why
I'm doing something.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
My goals this year another national championship, get drafted and
then number one.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I mean that would be great.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, but like I said, I'm getting my MBA.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I have no idea what I want to do, so I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Kind of just hoping that I don't know, I'm going
to meet someone super cool like you, and yeah, I
don't know to go from there.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well, if things work out, if you're like I don't know,
it's super you won't have to figure that out for
like twenty two years. You can wait a long time
before you have to be the business.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I was gonna say the bitch word for your parents
are here. I feel like I'm you know, I have
to be careful. They might make me run wind sprints.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Last question, because you said it, do you have a
Are you a vision board? Girly when you say you're
looking at your goals to see them or do you.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Mean you just write them down? Writing them down?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm not a vision board.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
No vision okay, well, no back what we work on together?
I kind of want to know.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, okay, okay, everybody send Asy your vision board ideas
for her, what you think she should put on there
for the next five ten twenty years of greatness.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
It was so great to catch up with you. Everybody.
Subscribe to the pod.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The trailer is out now so you can hit allo Azybud,
thank you, Thanks so much to Easy for joining me
in Indy, and welcome to the Iheartwomen's Sports Network slate
of shows. Also big shout out to all the fantastic
folks who showed up to our live show. We have
to take another break when we return. We've had just
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about enough of these broke boys watching billionaire's pockets.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Welcome back slices.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
We always love that you're listening, but we want you
to get in the game every day too, so here's
our good game play.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Of the day. It's an easy one.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
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and don't forget to subscribe, Rate and review. It's easy
watch bros taking shots at the WNBA players who are
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demanding what they're worth. Rating zero out of ten Brain
cells review. As the photos and videos of the WNBA
players wearing pay us What You Owa shirts ahead of
the All Star Game continue to circulate, the comment sections
beneath them continue to circle the drain, and you won't
be surprised to learn it's pretty much all men saying
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that these women don't deserve better pay, from brokeass boys
who live on social media, to ignorant radio hosts and
uninformed sports analysts who haven't done a minute of work
to understand the context around the CBA negotiations, but are
all suddenly experts in w finances and how leagues operate.
I've been looking for all those protect female athlete folks
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in the mentions and not seeing any. Instead, all folks
saying the W has been getting a quote unquote handout
from the NBA for years. How can a league exist
if they report losses? Ever, and how can you ask
for a higher percentage of the no money that you make? First,
you only call it a handout in the W, you
call it an investment. In every other sport, losses are
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only catastrophic and detrimental to the league. In the W,
we call losses intentional strategy. For every other startup and
nascent league or company, including the NBA. In fact, ESPN
uncovered that as recently as eight years ago, a full
half of the NBA's teams don't generate a profit on
their own. Sports accounting is not black and white, and
anyone who does the work to understand it knows that
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now the NBA are part owners of the WNBA, and
just like all other pro sports owners, they invest in
the product because of a belief in future growth. See
literally every other loss reporting league in its early years.
So we've got these billionaire NBA owners who are choosing
to pay gigantic expansion fees to get into the business
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of the W this year with new teams, knowing that
the w is good business. But we got these brocass
boys continuing to whine on their behalf.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
We'll talk about this more in a future show, no doubt,
but in the meantime, stay out of the comments sections
for your mental health.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Now it's your turn, grate and review. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
See you tomorrow when we'll be bringing you my conversation
with Candace Parker from All Star Weekend. Good game, Azy,
good game, unrivaled. You having to add asterisks to World Records.
Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports
production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You
can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
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wherever you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network,
our producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones. Our executive
producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder.
Our editors are Emily Rutter, Britney Martinez, Grace Lynch, and
Gianna Palmer. Our associate producer is Lucy Jones. Production assistance
from Avery Loftus and I'm Your Host Sarah Spain.
Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where no jump
shot have in tiny intellect possessing bros who don't know
jack about the WNBA need to keep their mouths shut
about what W players deserve and what w players have earned.
It's Tuesday, July twenty second, and on today's show, we're
bringing you my interview with Yukon Star Azy Fudd from
this weekend's live show in Indianapolis. We discussed how winning
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a national championship showed her a different side of coach
Gino Oriema, how she handles moments of self doubt, how
working with the sports psychologists changed her game, and what
kind of guests we can expect on her new podcast,
Butt Around and find out page backers plus loaded questions.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The second half is upon us and how.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
To lose while still breaking a record. It's all coming
up right after this welcome back slices. Here's what you
need to know today. Let's start with the WNBA as
ten teams are returning to action tonight following the All
Star break, marking the official start of the second half
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of the season. The five games tonight are headlined by
All Star MVP and a Visa Collier and her league
leading links hosting the Chicago Sky at eight pm Eastern.
Same time, the Indiana Fever visit All Star three point
champs Sabrini and Escu and the New York Liberty.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You can catch that one on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Ahead of that Fever Liberty contest, Indiana coach Stephanie White
said Caitlin Clark is likely to be out again, still
recovering from that right growing injury she sustained last week.
We'll link to the full slate of games in the
show notes. More WNBA ESPN's Alexa Philippoo reported on Monday
that Belgian player Emma Mesaman is set to return to
the WNBA and will play for the New York Liberty.
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Per Philippoo's sources, Mesamon's arrival in New York is subject
to the time it takes for her visa to get approved.
Meisiman previously played seven seasons with the Washington Mystics, earning
Finals MVP honors in twenty nineteen following the Sticks championship win,
and she also played one season for the Chicago Sky
in twenty twenty two. She's fresh off leading Belgium to
a second straight EuroBasket title. Earlier this summer and was
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named tournament MVP. Also on Monday, the Liberty signed Stephanie
Talbot to a rest of season contract after Talbot was
waived by the Valkyries last week. More w The Athletic
conducted a survey of WNBA players, asking thirty nine veterans
for their opinions on a variety of topics, and the
results are fascinating. In response to the question, aside from
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your own, what is the league's most well run organization,
twenty eight percent of respondents went with the Phoenix Mercury,
while twenty five percent chose the New York Liberty. It's
worth noting that polling began at the start of the
season and continued, so the players who were polled earliest
might not have thought about the Golden State Valkyries as
one of the best run teams then, but might consider
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them now based on what we've seen from that team
through just half a season of existence. As for the
worst run organization, a whopping forty percent selected the Chicago
Sky while twenty nine percent chose the Connecticut Sun.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No surprise is there.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The Athletic also asked players what issue is most important
in the upcoming CBA and seventy percent of players selected
higher salaries. As for which player will be the face
of the WNBA in five years, fifty three percent went
with Caitlin Clark, while rising USC junior Juju Watkins received
seventeen percent of votes. We'll link to the Athletic Survey
stories in the show notes, so make sure you check
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them out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Lots of good stuff in there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Also, you can check out the Athletic Women's basketball show
No Off Season, where they did a couple episodes talking
about the research that they did and the results really good.
More hoops three on three league Unrivaled has announced thirteen
new NIL signings with current college players. The list is
headlined by the aforementioned Juju Watkins, UCLA's Lauren Betts, TCUs
Olivia Miles, and Yukon's asy fud In Sarah Strong. As
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part of the deal, the players will participate in a
summit hosted by the league this summer in addition to
shooting promotional content. We'll link to the list of all
thirteen players in the show notes. Now, this isn't the
first time Unrivaled as partnered with the Next Generation ahead
of the league's inaugural season, Juju Watkins was announced as
an investor in the league, while lsus FLA J. Johnson
joined Paige Beckers in signing the league's first two nil deals.
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Spend report that Johnson will continue our partnership with the league,
though unlike the first deal, this one.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Will not include equity in the league.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
These nil deals are a smart move by Unrivaled, establishing
a relationship early ahead of efforts to recruit top talent
to play when they become eligible. At their pop up
at All Star Weekend in Indie, Unrivaled also announced plans
to add two expansion teams in twenty twenty seven to.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Track and fields.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Over the weekend, US runner Sinclair Johnson broke the American
women's record in the mile, clocking four minutes sixteen point
three to two seconds at a Diamond League stop in London,
taking three hundredths of a second off the previous record
set by Nicki Hilts in twenty twenty three. But get this,
Johnson's time was only good enough for fourth place. Ethiopia's
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Gudoff Sagui won the race in four minutes eleven point
eight eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's the second fastest time in history.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
More news from the world of athletics. Kenyon runner Ruth Cheppingeditch,
the women's marathon world record holder, has been provisionally suspended
after she tested positive for a band diuretic. Now, while
diuretics are not considered performance enhancing on their own, they
are banned as they can be used to reduce detection
of other substances. Sheppin Getich's case will now head to
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a disciplinary tribunal, which will determine if she receives the
standard suspension of two years or a lighter punishment. We
got to take a quick break when we come back.
It's my conversation with Azy Fudd. I sat down with
her on Friday ahead of the weekend's all star festivities
stick Around.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I have the.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Honor of introducing my guest for today's show, the reigning
NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player, helping her Yukon team to
the twenty twenty five national title. She is now a
super senior pursuing both her MBA and another championship. A
former Gatorade National Girl Basketball Player of the Year, she
got her first college scholarship in sixth grade. That was
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when the offer started. Host of the brand new podcast
fut around and find out the people's princess.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
It's easy fun.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm so excited to talk about the podcast, but first,
let's just talk about your championship summer.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
What's been the most fun thing you've done as a champion.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh my gosh, I've done some incredible things, but I
feel like just waking up every day and being like
I want a national championship, Like nothing tops that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I mean that feels pretty good, except for SODA's.
You know, like going on cool shows and meeting celebrities.
Have you gotten to do some of that too?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
When I was in New York, we went to a
Broadway show, or first we went to dinner at say Less, Yeah,
say Less, and we got to meet Alicia Keys, and
then she invited us to our Broadway show.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That was really cool, incredibly cool.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it was hard to like keep my chill, Yeah
I did.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Is there a celebrity that slid into your.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
DMS or sent you a message after the title that
you're particularly excited to hear from.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I did get some really sweet messages, but I think
one of the cooler ones was being posted on Barack
Obama's story, Like it was just random, like I wasn't
expecting it, and like he didn't like send a message
or anything.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But just to see that was really cool. It's nice
to know he's watching. Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, like
Obama knows who I am.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Exactly did you get to hear from your namesake, Jennifer Ezy?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She did reach out. I think I'm pretty sure she
was hard to keep track. Yeah, I'm really bad.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
With Yeah, tell us that story about being almost destined
for basketball greatness from the moment you were given that name.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So, Jennifer Easy was my mom's favorite player growing up,
and she met her one time at like some All
American care and right away she was like, I have
a daughter. I'm gonna name her Easy. I just stuck
with her, and I'm really glad she did.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I love my name.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So thank you, mom, Thank you Jennifer Easy. But yeah,
I mean, both my parents are coaches, they both played
college and professionally. So I grew up in a gym,
grew up with the name like I really it was
meant to be.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Was there ever a moment when you were a kid
where you were like that's enough basketball, or like I
don't feel like doing it today? Or was it always
something that you were into just as much as they were.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I actually didn't want to start playing basketball, like I said,
they coached, so I grew up like watching going to tournaments,
watch them coach, and I didn't want to play because
I saw the way that they yelled at their players,
and I was like, I don't I don't want to
be killed at So they made me start playing, and
then once I started, I fell in love with it,
and I was really bad at first. I liked it
because I liked my friends and my teammates. And then
when they were like, let's let's get extra shots up
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after practice, I'd be like why why? And then I
learned to love the work and everything you put in.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So it took it. It took a minute, but I
love it. Something tells me you were never bad. I
feel like that's like when er models are like I was.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So awkward growing up and like we weren't. Something tells
me you always had it. How long did coach Gina
Oriama allow you to celebrate before calling or sending a
text about what to work on next?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He actually like they were very chill. All the alums
always told us like when you win a national championship,
like you're going to see a different side of them.
And that's kind of what it was like. We obviously
we went in and did stuff, but there was no
like usually or in the past we've lost in like
the next week, we're back in the gym because that's
what we want to do. But it was we would
work out when we wanted to, we'd go live together,
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and then it was like you just text and request one.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It was. It was kind of weird. It was weird.
This sounds like a kinder, gentler Gino.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And I had to say, we had him on the show,
and I was expecting more of the gruff old man
kind of guy that you hear about how tough it
is to play at Yukon and the standards that he said,
and he was so kind and nice and fun and
easy going. And I do think I've heard from players
who played for him back in the day that he
has gotten a little bit different as he's aged. What
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do you hear from the alums about the Geno they
got versus the one you're getting.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh, they have some great stories, the great stories, but
they definitely say that he has gotten a little nicer
over the years, they tell like horror story practice like
practice stories, and I'm just grateful that I didn't experience that.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But he don't let that fool you. He is sweet.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
He has his moments, but he is He still has
that toughness, that meanness in him.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He gets it out.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, he said he's had to adjust as players have adjusted,
And there's a lot of conversation about that. The players
back in the day right or wrong, and in some
cases wrong. We're used to the kind of coach that
just screamed and screamed and that young folks these days
are like, no, we're good.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
We don't really want to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And so do you think you fit into the stereotype
for the more new generation of player or do you
want someone to really get on you and tell you
what you need to work and make you cry sometimes
in pursuit of greatness?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Which what's your style?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I definitely want him to get on me, and that's
that's how I was raised with my parents coaching me.
They did yell at me, even though I didn't want that.
So that's what I like, Like, I want someone to
I need that criticism, tell me what I'm doing wrong
coming out, how I can fix it what I can
get better at, but he doesn't yell at me a lot,
which again I won't complain about. I won't complain about,
but I definitely do get a little bit easier than
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some of my other teammates well.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And also, like the coaches that want the most for
you and then are in tears when things go well
are the ones you want to work the hardest for
because you know it's that they like. It's just they
care and they and they want to see it be great.
This season was a huge one for you con before
you ever want it all, there was so much pressure
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already on the team, and there was a lot of
conversation in particular about trying to get pagebackers the title
before she graduated, This idea that she would be the
most decorated and celebrated player you who didn't end.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Up with a ring before she left.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Is that something y'all talked about openly, like we got
to win this for Page let's address this in the
locker room, or was it more of a just elephant
in the room that no one wanted to say out
loud but everyone knew, like we really want to do
this for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But also for her in her last shot.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that we talked about it too much.
I think it was just that thing that we all knew.
We all knew that was a goal. We all wanted
to win obviously, but then it was also that extra
like we wanted to do it for Page, for all
of our seniors, so it was their last go around
at it. So that was definitely the added like we
are such a close team that we want to do
everything for each other, and so that was we wanted
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to win, but it was even sweeter going to do
it with them for them.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Did you have any thought right after you won to like,
ooh should I just leave right now?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
On top?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Was there any part of you that was like, oh gosh,
now I got to go back and try again.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
No, Honestly, it was like it made me more excited
to come back to do it again. So I think
getting a taste of what that felt like, what that
was like, it was like, Okay, I go, we need
to do this again, we need to make this happen again.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And honestly, I can't imagine being like I don't really
want to play with Sarah Strong another year.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean that's like a that was on my
con list of saying it was like Sarah strong for
another year, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Should deal with whatever she's gonna bring in a second year.
You will be back for one more season and a
chance to go back to back. I'm sure you've heard
about the you know, championship hangover, how hard it is
to be hungry all over again, to want it as
badly once you've already won. How do you prepare yourself
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as the leader of next year's team to make sure
that those who already have one championship want another one
just as bad.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I think that our team is super special in a
sense that everyone is super motivated on like by themselves,
and I mean you have to have that just to
be at Yukon. But like you can tell, and just
in our summer workouts, like you could tell like, yeah,
we won a national championship, but in May, like they
were putting in work on their own. We came back
in June and we had some really great summer workouts,
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so it was really motivating to see to get that
kind of sneak peak of what the team's gonna look like.
But I think having everyone on the same Page that's motivated,
that's like locked in, like not letting the details and
the little things get brushed under the rug, like we're
addressing it. So I think we have a really good foundation.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Is it nice to be the big dog by yourself,
like the real og on the team now? Because you
know Page obviously, you guys had both been there a
long time and fought through various injuries and had these
great stories to get to the championship game.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But with her now onto the w you're the queen Bee.
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's weird? It's weird being the oldest. I don't know,
like I feel old. Like freshmen are coming in they're seventeen.
I'm like, oh, they're talking about all like the high
school slang and brain rot and I'm like, we're not
that much apart, but it feels like it.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But it is.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's gonna be weird not having her, obviously, but it's
gonna be fun and I'm super excited for what this
year is gonna hold for me.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Do you think you feel old? Now? Let me tell
you girl.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So, in addition to pursuing your MBA trying to get
another title, you're starting this podcast put around and find
out what can we expect? Tell us what you want
to talk about on the show.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm super excited, and I'm excited because I think
it's just a way for people to get to know
more about me outside of what you see on the court.
Get to know like what my day to day looks
like something, some stuff about my family. My teammates will
have different people on. So I think it's just gonna
be fun. It's gonna be light. I hope people enjoy
listening to it, but yeah, I'm just gonna get to
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know more about me.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Are there podcasts you like listening to that either you're
drawing inspiration from or you just are like, oh, that's fun,
Like maybe we'll do some of that some of this.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I like Cameron Brinks podcasts. I like her a lot.
But you've a podcast. You have two gifts for a good.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Game with Sarah Spin. Everyone's already subscribed. She's got merch on,
She's a slice. Our listeners are called slices. Don't steal that.
It also would it makes sense for your show, but
still don't don't steal it.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Do you have any suggestions for me? Any tips?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I would say, just be as authentic as you can be,
because everybody is there because they're already love you and
just want to know more, and letting people in on
stuff that you might even think is boring. Actually people
will love to hear about, like what are practices like?
And how are you balancing everything at school? And you know,
what are your friends who aren't athletes like on campus?
(16:30):
And do you sometimes wish that you could just do
what they do and not have practice every day and
all the demands of sports, Like, it's surprising how much
people just want to hear what the real stuff, even
if it doesn't seem that exciting to you. And also
like use page and all your fancy friends to bring
all the other athletes on like this podcast. Sue Bird
(16:50):
was the one who reached out to see if I
wanted to do it, and I was like, okay, but
I get your rolodex right and I haven't fully used it,
but I intend to. So make sure you use all
your fancy friends to help you book guests.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's my other tip.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
What are some of your favorite things that you want
to share with fans that they might not know about you?
Things you're into like TV shows and movies or food
or fashion.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, I do love food. I love to read. I'm
kind of getting into fashion, so that would be a
fun thing to talk about. But like, really, I plan
on talkic. I plan on being all over the place
from practice, class, my friends, my non athletic friends, my
art friends, really everything.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It feels like.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Also, the name fud around and find out. Every episode
you could have some sort of example of someone who
futted around and found out.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We're gonna have something like that. Okay, huh okay, all right,
I like that tease.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Also on the fashion side, I was talking to an
NWSL player recently, Ali sent Noor, and she was talking
about how exciting it was for the US Women's National
Team Players Association Ball that they had a stylist com
and just put racks and racks of clothes out and
she could pick anything, and it was her first time
really experiencing that. So I know you said you're just
getting into fashion. I think people would love to hear
stories about whether you're getting sent clothes to try on
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and wear, or whether you're kind of learning what your
own personal style is with the help of people, because
it's such a huge part of women's basketball now. Is
that something that feels natural to you the intersection of
basketball and fashion, or are you having to sort of
like kick the tomboy part out and embrace embrace the
other side of yourself.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't say natural. I mean, I wore
a skirt last night and a skirt today for the
first time probably since my high school uniform. So I'm
trying to branch out, trying to do more. I love
I love dressing up and doing that, but the whole
like picking out clothes and figuring out.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
That is where I need help.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So like a stylist, some of my teammates love fashion,
so they'll help me, But I do really want to
get into it worse.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's fun. It is, it is.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And I think also like the way that women athletes
are now able to sell things be great, you know,
advocates for brands and outline is because they're so authentically
themselves and we really believe what they're telling us they
like and care about and watch and listen to and
where in a way that I think like standard influencers
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were just kind of not buying it anymore. Like I
don't believe most of the people on the internet when
they say they use something, I'm like, Okay, we got
paid for this, whereas female athletes, I'm like watching them
play two hours with their makeup staying and I'm like, okay,
well there's an ad right there, like what is on
your face?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Let me go get that. And same with passion.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I think there's such an authenticity and realness to female
athletes that whatever they're wearing were.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Like, okay, we want that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So it feels authentic in a way that I think
back in the day when athletes were like overly sexualized
or were forced into a role that didn't feel authentic,
we didn't buy it. And now there's representation of all
kinds across every single part of women's sports, and that's
making for a lot of opportunities. And you have had
a lot of opportunities with brands already. How do you
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balance all the demands from different sponsors and brands that
you work with already, and how do you decide which
ones you want to say yes to when you get
new offers.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, I have a super amazing team and my family,
my parents do a lot to help manage that load
for me, especially during the season.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's tough, but I think.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Like my freshman year was definitely like the child years,
see how that went. And I've learned a lot about
you know, what I like things to take with me,
whether it's for a photo shoot, whether it's specific requests
for a brand. So kind of finding like learning what
you like, learning like what your non negotiables are, finding
brands that you want to align with, like that you
can like relate to, or that you want to put
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your name behind. Like I want to be proud of
the partnerships that I have. I don't want to be
embarrassed or be like, oh, like maybe I don't want
to put my name next to that. So I always
want to be proud of whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, that's very smarter.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Their teammates at Yukon or alums that you've asked advice
for on how they handle sort of the balancing of school, basketball,
brand deals, media all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I think a couple of really good resources have
been super and Renee Montgomery. They've been incredible and they
know so much and they also want to help. So
I think just getting to talk to them and picked
their brain a little bit has been amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
You picked two like moguls, like those aren't just a lums.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Those are team owners, multi hyphen it business women.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Is that something you aspire to later in your career?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I think that'd be incredible. I mean, I'm getting my MBA.
I don't know what I want to do with it.
I don't know anything besides hopefully you're playing pro. But
I think what they've been able to do and build
for themselves is so amazing and I definitely look up
to them and I want to be like them for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, you already have a company name, right, the People's
Princess TM. Right, we could trademark that. What's the origin
of that nickname? I actually don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I think Page made a comment about how I'm the
princess because coach doesn't yell at me, and somehow that
morphed into people calling me the Peopils says, Yeah, I'm
not really sure.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I know I'm not mad about it, though. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I think you can really lean into that whenever it's
useful for you, especially for like brands. You can figure
out if there's you know, if there's different activations or again,
like when you expanded to your multi hyphen a business
woman era, you could just sit on a throne and
order people around.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I like the sound of that. Yeah, yeah, all of
your minions.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You were at an espnW summit back in twenty nineteen.
You were part of what we call Voices of the Future,
which is all up and coming youngsters that we think one.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Day might have a future.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And honestly, it felt inevitable back then that you would
be sitting here a national champion on your way to
the W Has there ever been a moment throughout your
career from being a youngster.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
To now where you doubted that where you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Felt like I'm not going to make it or you
had fears that the hype was too much.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Definitely, And I think both of those times were when
I was hurt coming back. I think I even I
think I had a moment this past season where I
even doubted myself and not not like coming back, being
in the season like mid season, like this is I
don't know, but just having those moments, and I feel
like it really grounds you, like it really makes you reset,
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take a step back, look at things, and like, okay,
like take a deep breath.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I think what we marveled at was in those moments
where you were in a slump where things weren't quite right,
like you found yourself out of it and back on
top so quickly and re establish yourself so quickly, And
it felt like mentally you were in such a great
place to be able to say, shrug it off, not
a great night, and now I'm back. How have you
come to that kind of mindset? How have you found
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the best tools for yourself to make sure if you
have a bad night or if something feels off, you
don't linger in that well.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
First of all, I have an incredible support system around me,
with my teammates, my family. I also started to talk
talking to someone as we're talking to a sports psychologist,
and I think that's been the biggest game changer this
past year for me, Just like learning how to like
as an athlete, like you always wold to push through
and so you do. But being able to talk about
these things and figure out different strategies to be able
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to bounce back a little bit faster. I think that
has been just the biggest thing for me, So be
able to, you know, not let those things bother me
as much that I'm roll off like next one's going in.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Really believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You have accomplished so much at such a young age.
I love that you're like, yeah, I'll just get my MBA.
I don't really know why yet, but I'll figure that
out and then I'll use it for something while I'm
dominating the world in many other ways as well, which
is just so impressive for someone your age.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
How do you stay humble when necessary? How do you
make sure that the main thing stays the main thing?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Where you know that hoops is what got you here,
so you got to keep hooping and keep being great
and keep working to keep it going.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think a big reason for that are my parents.
They raised me that way of being humble and never
been one to brag or want to be in the spotlight,
like I will hype you up till I die. I
don't need to be get the attention. But I am
very aware that, you know, basketball is what got me here,
That's what's allowing me to do these incredible things, meet
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these amazing people, be here with you, so being able to,
you know, keep that the main thing, but also like
use that to my advantage as much as I can,
by having a podcast, by being here with you, by
doing all these cool things. But I think, like my parents,
they will never let me if I ever like, we're
even I missed the workout this morning and my mom
is not happy. So they'll make sure that the main
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thing is always the main thing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
All right, Mom and dad, we cannot do wind sprints
in these shoes. Okay, So don't get any ideas. The
exponential growth of women's sports is so exciting, but it
does bring with it some unsavory things. That includes gamblers
who are gambling on women's sports and reaching out to
the women who you know, had a bad game and
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they didn't hit their parlay, or folks who send toxic
messages to the opponents of their favorite players. How do
you stay grounded and not get overwhelmed by the number
of people watching your games and invested in the outcomes?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well, for me, when I play, I always get nervous,
but I think like taking a minute before the game
or even like at halftime to just like look around
the stadium and appreciate, like sometimes like just going through
the motions, like we're used to having a big crowd.
It's amazing, but being able to really take in like oh,
like there's fifteen thousand people here who paid for tickets,
Like took the time out of the day to come
to this game like that is special and I will
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always be grateful to have that. But also, yeah, fans
are crazy. Like I've had teammates I don't really check
my dms and stuff from Raynod. Well sometimes I do,
but that kind of thing. I've had teammates get death
threats after we lost last year or whatever in the
final four, and people just like people are not okay,
they need to have their phone taken.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Agree, Yeah, but what do we do about it?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There's so much conversation around it, but the behavior of
so many people doesn't change. So you have to have
your own way of navigating and your own approach to it.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And everybody is different.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Like some people literally like you said, don't read any comments.
Some people read them but are able to kind of
put them file them away as like I didn't ask
that person for their opinion, so why would I give
their opinion any space in my head?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
What's your approach?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
How do you figure out how to like interact with
fans or read the things you want to read without
letting it get you down?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean I love interacting with fans. When I
see messages like that, it's like these people are hiding
behind their screens. They couldn't live a day doing what
I do, and I'm fully aware of that. So, knowing
that the people around me, in my circle are the
only voices and opinions that matter to me, I think
that's where I don't let that stuff bother me.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Period. Look at that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're ahead of the game. We saw pagebackers in the trailer.
Can we expect her to be an early guest on
the pod?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. I got to use the people around me. Yeah,
what's that? So I have to use the cool people
around me? Yeah, so I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Saying, so you're already taking my tips. Wow, look at
that faster, fast learner.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Do you want to be on my pod? One? Okay, perfect,
get two people on my bot. Let's go, Well, who
else do you want to get on?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Let's hear some dream guests so that we can have
all the important folks in the room that might know them.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Hook you up. I'm gonna get Alicia Keys in the pod.
That your bff. Yeah, I'm my bff for besties. Excellent suggestion. Yeah,
your other bff.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I don't even know. I want like everyone though. Also,
I do have a super amazing co host Ashanti. She's
in here somewhere, so shout out to It's gonna be
a lot of fun. I'm remember really excited and we're
gonna have fun when you get on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Awesome, tell us about a shanty. We kind of just met.
Not all loss about podcasts setup. Yes, okay, but I
really like her.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay, First, she's got well, yes, very well, she's got
great energy. I think she's just gonna she's gonna bring
all the vibes of the show cool. I'm a little
more on the mellow side. So she's gonna good.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Okay, she's ready sugar and spice. Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So you don't have that many ideas for dream guests yet,
so we need to fill those in for you. I
would like you to get all the Hall of Fame
basketball players that came out of Yukon. Just start there.
That's nice and easy. And then do you want folks
outside of basketball? Do you want other athletes or celebrities?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I do?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I want everyone that sounded crazy like I think Cocoa
Golf would be a really cool one to have. I
love her, I do love her so definitely other athletes,
Like I wanna if there's like a foodie or something
to talk about books with. I want some of my
regular friends from campus.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I want yeah, yeah, cool. Well I just wrote a
book so we could talk about that when I come on.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, Perfect Runs in the Family by Sarah Spain and
Dela McCall.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I feel free to buy it. Well, we're so excited
for the podcast. We're so excited for.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Your final This is your final year at you gun right,
You're not going to pull any random extra years out
of your pocket.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And then the last thing I want to ask you
is about looking ahead. What's the dream for you? Like,
when you're thinking about what's next, do you operate a
year from now, six months from now, five years from now?
Like what kind of goals do you set for yourself?
Really far out or real close?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Both long term ones? And then before each year, I
set goals. And then, like I said before games, I'll
set goals, just have intentions. But I love I'm I've
been a goal setter for a while. I love having
like something in front of me to look at to
keep me motivated, and I remind myself of like why
I'm doing something.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
My goals this year another national championship, get drafted and
then number one.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I mean that would be great.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, but like I said, I'm getting my MBA.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I have no idea what I want to do, so I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Kind of just hoping that I don't know, I'm going
to meet someone super cool like you, and yeah, I
don't know to go from there.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well, if things work out, if you're like I don't know,
it's super you won't have to figure that out for
like twenty two years. You can wait a long time
before you have to be the business.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I was gonna say the bitch word for your parents
are here. I feel like I'm you know, I have
to be careful. They might make me run wind sprints.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Last question, because you said it, do you have a
Are you a vision board? Girly when you say you're
looking at your goals to see them or do you.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Mean you just write them down? Writing them down?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm not a vision board.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
No vision okay, well, no back what we work on together?
I kind of want to know.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, okay, okay, everybody send Asy your vision board ideas
for her, what you think she should put on there
for the next five ten twenty years of greatness.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
It was so great to catch up with you. Everybody.
Subscribe to the pod.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The trailer is out now so you can hit allo Azybud,
thank you, Thanks so much to Easy for joining me
in Indy, and welcome to the Iheartwomen's Sports Network slate
of shows. Also big shout out to all the fantastic
folks who showed up to our live show. We have
to take another break when we return. We've had just
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about enough of these broke boys watching billionaire's pockets.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
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Speaker 1 (32:40):
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and don't forget to subscribe, Rate and review. It's easy
watch bros taking shots at the WNBA players who are
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demanding what they're worth. Rating zero out of ten Brain
cells review. As the photos and videos of the WNBA
players wearing pay us What You Owa shirts ahead of
the All Star Game continue to circulate, the comment sections
beneath them continue to circle the drain, and you won't
be surprised to learn it's pretty much all men saying
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that these women don't deserve better pay, from brokeass boys
who live on social media, to ignorant radio hosts and
uninformed sports analysts who haven't done a minute of work
to understand the context around the CBA negotiations, but are
all suddenly experts in w finances and how leagues operate.
I've been looking for all those protect female athlete folks
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in the mentions and not seeing any. Instead, all folks
saying the W has been getting a quote unquote handout
from the NBA for years. How can a league exist
if they report losses? Ever, and how can you ask
for a higher percentage of the no money that you make? First,
you only call it a handout in the W, you
call it an investment. In every other sport, losses are
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only catastrophic and detrimental to the league. In the W,
we call losses intentional strategy. For every other startup and
nascent league or company, including the NBA. In fact, ESPN
uncovered that as recently as eight years ago, a full
half of the NBA's teams don't generate a profit on
their own. Sports accounting is not black and white, and
anyone who does the work to understand it knows that
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now the NBA are part owners of the WNBA, and
just like all other pro sports owners, they invest in
the product because of a belief in future growth. See
literally every other loss reporting league in its early years.
So we've got these billionaire NBA owners who are choosing
to pay gigantic expansion fees to get into the business
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of the W this year with new teams, knowing that
the w is good business. But we got these brocass
boys continuing to whine on their behalf.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
We'll talk about this more in a future show, no doubt,
but in the meantime, stay out of the comments sections
for your mental health.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Now it's your turn, grate and review. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
See you tomorrow when we'll be bringing you my conversation
with Candace Parker from All Star Weekend. Good game, Azy,
good game, unrivaled. You having to add asterisks to World Records.
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