Karaoke Is Not My Jam with Ally Sentnor

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're loving
seeing gymnast Jordan Childs pop up at sporting events and
parties across the country. Dallas Wings game, Seattle Storm game,
the SPI's SI Swimsuit, MLB All Star, This girl is
on the page. Beckers offseason planned for Real. It's Wednesday,
August sixth, and on today's show, we'll be chatting with
US women's national team and Kansas City current forward Ali

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Sentnor about her big trade from the Utah Royals, getting
her first national team call up, and how she's always
improving her game. Plus, the volleyball landscape becomes slightly less confusing,
infuriating takes from the WNBA Peanut Gallery, and one baby
really rises to the occasion. It's all coming up right
after this welcome back slices. Here's what you need to

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know today in footy news. Per friend at the Show,
Jeff cassoof Ali Watt is the first player in the
history of the Denver I'm at FC NWSL expansion franchise.
Watt was traded to Denver from Orlando, where she helped
the team win the twenty twenty four NWSL Shield and Championship.
Last season. She's been loaned back to Orlando for the

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remainder of this season, but she'll begin play with her
new Denver squad in twenty twenty six. Watt is a
Colorado Springs native, and Denver general manager Kurt Johnson told
the ESPN in May that bringing in players with ties
to the centennial state is a priority. The loan agreement
gives the Pride seventy five thousand dollars in expansion allocation
money and thirty seven five hundred dollars in transfer funds. Okay,

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we know what you're probably thinking. I've heard of transfer
funds and normal allocation money, but what's expansion allocation money. Well,
in short, it's money that the expansion sides Denver and
Boston can use to build their rosters and exceed the
NWSL salary cap and transfer threshold. Allocation money both the
normal kind and the expansion kind are actually being phased out,

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and they're going to be replaced by the equally confusing
transfer money system in the future. All that to say,
Orlando just needs to spend that seventy five thousand dollars
by the end of twenty twenty seven or they lose
it to volleyball, where some big news broke On Monday,
the Pro Volleyball Federation announced that it's merging with Major
League Volleyball. Now this isn't your typical merger, given that

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Major League Volleyball hasn't even officially launched yet, so here's
some background. The Pro Volleyball Federation AKAPVF played its second
season in twenty twenty five with eight teams, but back
in January, ahead of that second season, it was announced
that one of those teams, the Omaha Supernovas, would be
leaving come twenty twenty six, in order to join Major

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League Volleyball aka MLV. MLV planned to launch in twenty
twenty six with ten teams, So for the last seven months,
there's been a whole lot of confusion about the pro
volleyball landscape, given that both the PVF and MLV would
be competing for players and eyeballs not only with each other,
but also with Love Pro Volleyball, a totally separate league

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where nearly all of the best American players have opted
to play by the way, and there's also still Athletes
Unlimited Volleyball, although that league isn't quite competing in the
same way. As its season runs in the fall rather
than the winter in the spring. Are you confused, Yeah,
that's because it's confusing. But basically, thanks to this merger,
there's now a little bit of clarity in the space.

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It's kind of like we're back to where we were
in December of twenty twenty four. The PVF and MLV
will operate under the MLV name and banner, and the
league will feature ten teams for the twenty twenty sixth season.
Per Sportico. The PVF raised forty million dollars as part
of the transaction, and the investment was led by the
Devas family. Yes, that Devas family, who are also owners

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of the pvf's Grand Rapids Rise, as well as the
mnba's Orlando Magic. To the WNBA, where we've got some
more info on the potential sale of the Connecticut's Sun
by the Mohegan Tribe. On Tuesday front of the show,
Annie Costable of Front Office Sports, who I'm now officially
calling Annie Scoops Costable Join, reported along with colleagues that
a deal for the Sun was agreed upon, but WNBA

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Commissioner Kathy Engelbert never brought it before the board. Of Governors.
Here's the part of the show where I read to
you per the story quote, the record three hundred twenty
five million dollar offer for the Sun, made by a
Boston group led by Celtics minority owner Steve Paliuka, was
already agreed to by the tribe in early July, multiple
sources familiar with the deal told Front Office Sports. The offer,

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which also included a future one hundred ten million dollar
investment into a practice facility, was subsequently presented to WNBA
Commissioner Katy Engelbert, but never to the league's Board of governors.
The exclusivity period expired after nearly a month, opening the
door back up to other interested groups, including one led
by former Milwaukee Bucks owner Mark Lazre. Sources said the

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lazar led group, which is pursuing keeping the team in Connecticut,
is considered to be in active competition with Paleyuka's bid.
At this stage, the WNBA has the power to force
a sale to a Connecticut based buyer, in which case
the Mohegan Tribe would cooperate. According to The Boston Globe,
the WNBA did not respond to an email from Front
Office Sports asking why the league would force the team

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to stay in Connecticut. End quote. But there's more, y'all,
The story continues quote. The WNBA released a statement following
reports that the PAGs Group had a deal to buy
the Sun, which emphasized Boston was not one of the
twelve cities to bid for an expansion team in the
most recent process. Cleveland, Detroit, and Philadelphia were granted expansion
teams for a fee of two hundred and fifty million

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dollars apiece. The other nine teams, the league said, quote
remain under consideration based on the extensive work they did
as part of the expansion process, and currently have priority
over Boston end quote. Multiple front office sources criticized the
WNBA's statement because it appears to suggest the league might
force the Sun to sell to a buyer of the
league's choosing. During the press conference announcing Cleveland, Detroit, and

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Philadelphia as the WNBA's next three expansion cities, Engelbert made
it a point to call out Houston directly. Quote Houston
would be up next, for sure. End quote, Engelbert said
in June in response to a question about the timeline
for evaluating bits. Quote there might be opportunities there end quote,
based on prior operational standards as they pertain to expansion

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and the sale of individual franchises. The league statement which
conflates the two processes is confounding. While the league has
control over expansion, individual owners and ownership groups have always
had control over the sale of their franchises, aside from
them being subject to approval from the Board of Governors.
End quote. Did you keep up with all that? You

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should definitely read the full story. We'll link to it
in our show notes. But this is very clearly something
that's going to continue to develop, so we'll keep you
updated as news rolls. In more WNBA news, Thursday's trade
deadline is rapidly approaching, and the Seattle Storm in Washington
Mystics have completed a huge transaction on Tuesday. The Sticks
traded twenty twenty five all star Britney's Sykes to the

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Seattle Storm. In exchange, the Sticks got three time WNBA
champion Alisia Clark, guard Zaia Cook, and one of Seattle's
twenty twenty six first round draft picks. To complete the trade,
The Mystics waved forward Cicca Coone and the team also
proceeded to wave cook Sikes has been the main character
in DC for the past few seasons and really took
the reins after seven time All Star Elena Deladon played

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her last season in twenty twenty three. Sikes departs DC
for the Pacific Northwest, averaging team bess in points and
assists per game, notching fifteen point four and four point four, respectively.
DC's new acquisition, Clark, spent time in the district, previously
playing for Washington in twenty twenty two. Producer Mesh and
Styx fans everywhere are surely heartbroken, but maybe that twenty

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twenty six first round draft pick will make it all worthwhile.
And speaking of heartbroken, how much does it suck for
Cicca Coone and Zia Cook to both get waived in
order to make this trade work? You might recall we've
mentioned in previous shows that the WNBA trade deadline usually
isn't that busy because it's kind of hard to pull
off trades in the league Because a hard salary cap,
teams can't go over that amount by even one penny,

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And while they don't have to match salaries in a trade,
they do have to make sure that they're compliant with
the salary cap. In addition to that, there's also a
lot of restrictions on trading draft picks in this league.
But it is worth noting there's more movement this year
because of all the players that are on expiring deals.
You remember, a lot of players in anticipation of that
new CBA signed contracts that would end at the end

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of this season. So with so many players on expiring deals,
pretty much every single trade would be for a rental,
which lowers the price that sellers can demand and at
the same time might also motivate teams to send away
players that they're going to lose for nothing in the winter. Anyway,
if you want to read more about why this trade
deadline is a little bit busier, Jack Maloney from CBS
Sports wrote a pretty good story about it. We'll link
to that in the show notes. Also have to shout

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out friend of the show Richard Cohen, who blueskied way
back in May quote, feel like the perfect execution of
a Britney sych season for Washington in twenty twenty five
is to let her teach the kids for two thirds
of the year, then get a first round pick for
her at the deadline from some one who thinks they're
a contender hashtag WNBA miss Cleo. Is that you deep

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cut musty reference my old head snow cal miss Cleo.
As for game action in the w after a big
Tuesday night across the association, just one game tonight, but
it's a good one, a meaningful rematch between the Las
Vegas Aces and the Golden State Valkyries in the Bay,
just three days after the Aces beat the Valks one
oh one seventy seven in Vegas. Now, after that Vegas win,

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the Aces are sitting at seventh in the league standings
with a fifteen and fourteen record, while the Valks are
right on their heels at eighth fourteen and fourteen on
the season. You can catch that matchup at ten pm
Eastern on NBA TV or on League Pass. All right, slices,
Time for another installment of Gimme a Minute, where we
tee up a topic in women's sports, set a timer

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and vent, and today we're talking about a Wall Street
journal op ed by Sean McLean entitled the WNBA and
Caitlin Clark's Civil Rights Not for me earlier with Sean MacLean,
neither was I. Let's scroll down to see what kind
of sports reporting bona fides Sean is bringing to the table. Quote.
Mister MacLean is founder of Origin Advocacy, a lobbying firm.

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He has served in the Trump White House and the
offices of Senator Ted Cruz and then Representative Marsha Blackburn.
Oh all right, let's dive in. The subhead reads quote
if the league won't act to protect at superstar from
a hostile environment, the government should do so. The article
lays out Caitlin Clark's impact on viewership, merch sales, attendance,

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and engagement. Okay, yeah, all good there, and then quote
yet she routinely faces intentional hits, excessive fouling, and uncalled
abuse while referees look away. End quote. And then it
introduces her injuries this season and the accompanying drop in ratings,
as if to imply that her injuries stem from the
aforementioned fouls and hits, but no proof is provided. Okay,

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let's move on. Quote Is it because because miss Clark
is white? Asia Wilson of the Las Vegas Aces, a
three time League Most Valuable Player, thinks, so she has
said that race is quote a huge thing, and that
quote it boils my blood when people say it's not
about race because it is. Under civil rights law, race
motivated patterns trigger scrutiny, even without explicit discriminatory intent end quote.

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So I wondered when Asia Wilson might have sat down
with Sean MacLean to talk to him about this, or
when she might have said that about fouling Clark being
racially motivated. So I looked up the quote, and Wilson
did say that in May of twenty twenty four to
the Associated Press when asked about race playing a role
in Caitlin Clark's popularity. The full original quote quote, I

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think it's a huge thing. I think a lot of
people may say it's not about black and white, but
to me, it is. It really is, because you can
be top notch at what you are as a black woman.
But yet maybe that's something that people don't want to see.
They don't see it as marketable. So it doesn't matter
how hard I work, it doesn't matter what we all
do as black women, We're still going to be swept
underneath the rug. That's why it boils my blood when
people say it's not about race, because it is. End quote. Huh,

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so she wasn't talking about Caitlin being fouled because she's white.
She was talking about black players not getting as much
publicity and marketing and endorsement because they're black. Okay, but
that's not the only quote that's dropped into the story
without context. There's also a word salad sentence that reads, quote,
systemic missed calls include viral replays of miss Clark being
fouled multiple times in a single possession. Every single one

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of them is a foul, analyst Rebecca Lobo said, end quote. Okay,
never mind that it makes no sense to write that
systemic calls include viral replays, But more importantly, when did
Rebecca Lobo say that? And about what play or plays
or clips right. The story then calls the federal government
to intervene due to threats to basic rights, safety, and

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public confidence in the WNBA, citing previous incidents including USA Gymnastics.
So yeah, try not to punch a wall when you
hear hard fouls being compared to systemic, decades long abuse.
I'll let you read the rest for yourself. It calls
for Congress to demand answers, the Labor Department to review
workplace safety, and the Justice Department Civil Rights Division to

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take action. You know, I'd read it for you, but
my eyes roll back so far in my head they're
actually in my ass right now, Get in here, Alex,
get in here, Mesh. Let's vent about this whole thing.
And because we're probably gonna need to, let's go ahead
and set a timer.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Should we maybe just start with a group scream? Or
do we want to do that off the air?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, I would love a group scream right about now.
The most frustrating part about this is just with the
with the recent news that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting
is losing funding, and then to on the back of
that see some absolute hot bullshit like this hit the

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pages of the Wall Street Journal, where so many people
aren't even going to question whether or not this is
reputable reporting. It bothers the out of me. It is scary.
It is one of the scariest things that's happening right
now across a lot of spaces. Real journalists who do
real research and observe and report for the benefit of

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the public are losing their jobs, are getting pushed to
the margins. And this is the bullshit that's getting platformed
over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And it's really terrifying, and I just hate, I hate.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Like you said that there are people who have been
fighting fights for decades on behalf of oppressed people, and
this is the shit that just rises to the top,
because that's the moment we're in right now. That's how
insane it is to be living in the US right now.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
And I simply cannot all right, well put meiche down
for no safe spaces for white people, not even apparently,
which is apparently what we're now using our Justice Department
to advocate for Alex.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I struggle with stuff like that, because when you are
just faced with such garbage takes like this, where do
we even start? Do you start by fact checking it
because there are lots of facts that are wrong in it?
Do you start by going after this guy and his qualifications,
which he has very few of that make him an
expert on any of these topics?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Do you go after the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's just it reminds me so much of the just
shit pile that we're in right now, where everything is
so bad that you.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Get overwhelmed by it.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
So I'm going to just focus on the Wall Street
Journal for a second, because I do think that there
is a value to having opinion sections. I think that
there is a value to having people who bring different opinions.
I think that one of the reasons why we are
in a shit mess is because people aren't listening to
each other. And so I do think that there is
value in hearing from different sides of a topic. But

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even though the opinion section is different than the new section,
it still needs to be held to the same type
of editorial standards, meaning there is fact checking, meaning there
is relevancy checking. And here's the thing. Does this guy,
Sean MacLean know anything about the WNBA, about women's sports,
about sports in general. No, he's a lobbyist. Okay, does

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his company lobby On behalf of anything related to that realm?

Speaker 5 (16:09):
No.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
They lobby for Amazon, an AT and T. So make
it make sense, you know, if the Wall Street Journal
wants to have an opinion on Caitlin Clark's treatment in
the WNBA, at least commission it from somebody who is
an expert or knows something about that and isn't just
trying to make this an open race WARO.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Okay, I'm gonna go scream.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, very well said, And I completely agree. And I
think to your point. If you want to have an
honest conversation and really want to dig in and see
if there might be some truth to this, do some
reporting call on some people who know anything about the
history of the league. Is there a historical record of
another superstar player that's fouled more often or covered more aggressively,
or the subject of more flagrant fowls. Is there a

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super high profile occasion in the NBA that literally had
its own name called the Jordan Rules, where Michael Jordan
was a complet completely different player in terms of how
he was treated by the Troit Pristons, Which is why
it's wild to me they managed to dig up a
quote of Gino Oriema literally saying it's not like Michael
Jordan was ever treated different. I'm like they were literally
called the Jordan Rules. Okay, we con bent about this

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all day. I think again, as I'm so furious about
the idea of calling the government about a white player
facing a civil rights offense in a predominantly black league
because she's being fouled a lot like that is so
beyond stupid. I can't even talk about it. But I
think also this simple thing of taking a quote from
over a year ago and misapplying it as if it

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was commentary about the argument that you're making. We are
seeing that way too often. I saw Christine Brennan take
a quote from Dwana Bonner when she first arrived with
the Fever about how crazy the crowds were and how
into it Fever fans are months later when she left
the Fever and say, oh, I get it now. This
quote means that she couldn't handle being on the same
team as Caitlin and all the attention she gets. That's

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not how you use a quote. You can't just give
it new meaning because of a situation change it. Go
talk to that person and ask them, I just all
of this, Okay, our timer is well passed. Done that guy,
the story everything right now, we got to take a break. Well,
we come back. We're not going to save you to

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our guests, because we actually love her, because she came
back again. We're actually going to talk to Ali Sentner
And we first chatted with her in the middle of
July during the NWSL break back when she was a
member of the Last Place Utah Royals, But then before
we had a chance to run it on Friday, she
got traded to the first place Kansas City Current. So
we caught up with her again on Monday, day three,
basically of her new life in Kansas City to chat

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about the trade and the big move. And we're going
to air that second interview first, followed by my original
conversation with her.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
After see this is what we're talking about. There was
new information and so we did a follow up interview
to update the story.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
All that chat with Ali Sentnor coming up right after
this joining us now. She's a forward slash attacking midfielder
for the US women's national soccer team and the Kansas
City Current. So she played two seasons of college soccer

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for the North Carolina tar Heels before being picked first
overall by the Royals in the twenty twenty four NWSL draft.
The US Soccer Young Female Player of the Year in
twenty twenty four and the Sports Illustrated Sports Kid of
the Year in twenty nineteen. She loves music, best food, picks,
and scoring bangers. It's Ali sent Nora, Hi, Ali.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Hi, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I feel like those fancy interviews for NPR where they
interview someone one time and then they meet back again
two weeks later to talk again, but this was because
Ali has some really big news since we last sat
down with her. I just want to hear your reaction
to when you first got the call you're being traded.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah, honestly, you know, is bittersweet. I have a ton
of friends and great people in Utah that I've really
you know, been a part of my career and have
shaped me kind of into who I am today. But
I'm just so excited to be joining the Kansas City
Current and to be a part of a team that
is investing so much in women's sports, and you can

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tell the players here just continuing to get better every
single day.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So we talked to Kayla Sharples right after she got
traded to the Current, and she said her old team
had forgotten to take her off the slack. She had
to send them a message to be like, guys, guys,
I can't be in these chats anymore. What's the latest
on that. Have you severed the ties with the things,
the access to the websites and any other things that
you might have that are secrets of the Royals? Ah?

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, I definitely don't have the tactics and the secrets anymore. Thankfully,
since we play each other this weekend, And obviously still
a fan of that team because my friends are there
and I still am friends with them now. I still
chat with them now and they'll be my friends for life.
So that's just something that the game has brought me

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and that team has brought me. But you know, I'm
full on casey and you're ready to buy into that
team and learn all the new tactics.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, and with this new team, you have some friends there,
which is so nice. Claire Hutton meeting you at the
airport with a sign, How cute was that? Was that
a surprise?

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah? She is the sweetest. I was just so happy
to see her. I didn't even know she was coming,
so it was really fun.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
And you know, I.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Played with Michelle too, and I actually trained with the
Kansas City Current before my last season in college, so
some of the girls that are were there still on
the team, so you know, I got a little taste
and obviously loved it, but then went into the draft.
So it's honestly kind of full circle that I'm back here.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
So you catapulted your way up the table and now
have a whole new system to learn, teammates, to learn
what's the most pressing thing of the many on your
plate right now when it comes to the soccer side
of things, What do you have to focus on to
get ready for your first game in the teal.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Yeah, I think I am in all the information and
really just being a sponge. But the most pressing which
really isn't that pressing for me, is just having fun
and really going out there and just loving the game
and loving to compete on this team that has a
crazy competitive mentality and mindset and really just enjoying it.

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I think that's one of the reasons for this move.
And to be able to just go out there every
week and have a good time and play good soccer.
I think that's really the biggest thing in my mind
right now.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
It's interesting because that's the same answer you gave to
my question about how you look toward the second half
of a season with a struggling Royals team was like,
play good soccer, get better, find the joy of being
in the moment. So first place or last place, you
have the same approach to the game, which is really cool.
Off the field. Number one priority, I'm guessing you'll be
in a hotel for a while. Where's all your stuff? Like,

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what's important to you to feel settled in in Casey?

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah? Well, the girls here have honestly been great making
this feel like home, even though I'm staying in a
hotel right now. But I have heard from the Casey
fans that my number one thing should be getting some barbecues.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
So maybe I'll do that this week.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
But I think, honestly just getting used to the new schedule,
new new team. Every team has their you know, little
quirks and things that they do, so I think just
learning that. But also, you know, getting my stuff back
in Utah next weekend driving the car. I think getting
settled in an apartment will make it feel all real.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, so do you know what you're supposed to say
after kc oh?

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, I have my first Casey baby in practice today.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Baby, Okay, okay, what about pitch side coffee? Do we
know about that?

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Oh my gosh, I already have two bags.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
I actually have a Cofkay, you're fine, yeah, coffee machines
in transit, so I just gotta wait. The beans have
to wait, but I have them.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
The beans have to wait, but time doesn't for you,
because you are thrown right into the mix with your
new team. Allie, thank you so much for making some
time to chat with us. We're so so so excited
to see you in the teal out there with the Current.
This is going to be so fun to watch. So
congrats on the move and good luck.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
All Right, as I mentioned y'all, I first talked to
Ali in the middle of July before her trade to
Kansas City. So here's Ali Part one, when she was
still with the Royals. I'm so glad you could be here.
We are talking just as the lengthy NWSL summer hiatus
is about to come to an end, so I want
to know how you spent your summer. Not so much
of a break.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yeah, we had camp against schemes against Ireland and Canada,
and then I thankfully got to go home and spend
some family time in Newport, Rhode Island. So it got
some beach time, some lobster rolls. It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
You are definitely a foodie. I can tell by your
Instagram that you are someone who is going to share
whatever delicious thing you are naushing on. Is there like
a go to when you're back home? Is it the lobster?

Speaker 5 (24:57):
Oh? Yeah, I think me and my mom had a
rule on that we had to have some type of
like seafood or lobster, like every single day.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
That's awesome. I love that we were both at the
US Women's national team players ball, which was so much fun.
Do you like the chance to get glammed up or
do you feel more comfortable in your uniform?

Speaker 5 (25:16):
I definitely feel more comfortable in ath leisure. But it
was so fun them styling us. They did such a
good job getting us all glammed, and it's so fun
to see all my teammates like in super glam because
we never see each other like that.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Did you get to do the thing where the stylis
had like just a rack of dresses for you to pick? Yeah,
Oh my god, so fun.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
It was the first time I've done that before, and
I was kind of starstrug. I didn't even know where
to start, so I did pick the first dress I
tried on, but it honestly was so amazing, so they
crushed it on for try.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, you looked incredible. It is so much fun to
see all the players getting all delled up. Struck by
the Cheetah Girls is sort of the unofficial song of
the Paris gold medal winning national team, and so we
saw a handful of those players get on stage and
really throw down for that. What other song would you
put on knowing that it would get this current national
team bunch of girlies out on the dance floor.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Oh my gosh. Well, I am definitely not team DJA.
I will leave that up Torstal for sure, But I
honestly just love seeing them in their element and they
play that song pretty much every single time in the
locker room. So I've I've seen that performance once or twice.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
We need a new one. So next time we have
you on, you'll have to tell us like what the
next song is gonna because you know that's your You're
part of the crew now, so you get to help
pick what's next and what like the next generation is
going to be getting down to exactly.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Gen Z can come up with a new one for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, no offense as an old I don't trust y'all
with your music taste, But that's not your fault. It's
not your fault that you know you happen to be
born in this particular era and one day you will
see the light and magic that is the nineteen nineties
music never gets old. You are now part of this
legacy for the US women's national team. Forty years of
the US women's national team, six hundred wins, so much success.

(27:08):
It's such an honor to get to put on that
kit and play with that team. Tell us about getting
the call from Ma Hay's last October for your first
senior call up.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, I mean it is something that literally every single
young girl dreams of to get that email, to be
invited into camp for the first time. And so I
was having a pretty oh my gosh, the lights just went.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Up, no worries. Oh my god, it's like motion sense
talk with your hands, alley talk to emotion sets or lights.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. That was scary. Okay,
it's definitely keeping that in.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
So last October, I was honestly really just enjoying my
rookie season and taking it all in, soaking it all in.
And I had been in with the U twenties for
the World's Cup and had a blast. We won the
bronze medal, which has been done in a pretty long time,
so it was a very fun accomplishment and I was

(28:08):
really just enjoying that and playing and then my coach
kind of mentioned that I was like in the pool,
which is an honor in itself, so I was like, honestly,
that's cool, Like let's go with me. And I was
getting a massage and nobody was at the facility and
then like my GM like knocks on the door, and
then like my coach is there as well, and they're

(28:30):
like check check your email, like did you get an email?
And I'm like face down, like in the night gradle,
and I was like, what are you guys talking about.
I didn't even know, like if it when it was
supposed to come out or whatever. And I checked my email,
I'd just start like immediately crying, and it was just
one of those surreal moments and they were so happy
and congratulated me, and I called my dad and my

(28:52):
dad started crying, and it was just one of those
things where my whole support system had brought me to
that moment and it was just gonna. I knew it
was going to be such a fun trip.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
And honestly, it's not that you knew it was inevitable,
but clearly you were on a path to getting that call.
But it is so nice to sort of be surprised
by how early it comes as opposed to some players.
You know, we've seen some players like Lo La Bonta
who wait such a long time to get that call
and get that first opportunity. So how fun for you
that you don't even have the nerves. You're just enjoying

(29:25):
playing for the U twenty team and they call you
up to the senior team. You mentioned that that bronze
that you won with the U twenty team was the
first in a while. It's interesting because on the youth level,
the US women haven't had as much success lately, while
the senior team is of course always dominating. What does
that tell you about how the US handles like the
younger levels of soccer And do you think there needs
to be a change to the club system that we

(29:47):
see abroad.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
I think the youth tournaments are always so amazing to
you know, get that experience, and even I've played some
teams with the full team that I've played with the
youth teams, and it really is so nice because you
have that little bit of background of Okay, this is
the style they're going to play. Obviously, these players are
going to be better because they're on their full national team,

(30:10):
but it really gives you a bit of an advantage,
which is nice. But I think Emma coming in that
she's talked to us many times at camps, really is
just changing the youth landscape, changing the way that the
national teams are run for the better. I think she's
doing everything through her female lens. You've probably heard that,

(30:31):
which I think is amazing. But even when we watch
the youth team, she's like, this has to be better,
Like we have to get our youth teams to be
competing at the level that our full team is with
the same style and like winning those trophies at a
youth level because it is important. So I think she's
putting in the work, she's noticing that, and I think
it's going to be really good for the youth teams

(30:52):
to have someone like her leading them and leading the
charge for them.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, what's it like playing for Emma? What stands out
about her as a coach manager?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah? I think what's so cool about her is she
is so knowledgeable. She knows exactly how to get out
of you, like what she wants to get out of you,
without you like even knowing, which is really cool. And
but she is really one of like the chillist coaches
I've had off the field. She loves being with the girls, like,

(31:23):
loves a good karaoke moment, loves loves just going to
other sporting events. So I think she's a really cool person.
But you can tell, like you just respect her so
much that everything she says you're like, okay, let me
take that all in, Like that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Well, the obvious follow up is what's your karaoke song?
And what's Emma's?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
If I never have to sing karaoke again ever in
my life, Like, I will be completely fine with that.
I will be a okay, were you forced to? No complaints? Yeah,
so my first camp, I probably I'm pretty out going,
but I don't think I really spoke much Like I'm

(32:05):
like looking at my idols. We go into a meeting
about pressure and like playing on the world stage, and
they have a wheel of names on the on the
screen and who's the first person that gets picked to
go up and sing karaoke? Me, I'm like on the
Virgin tiers. No, my face is so red I karaoke

(32:26):
is not my jam. I these are like all my idols,
and like I might never come back like, what was
the song? And thankfully I had two other teammates up
there with me and we had to sing Sweet Caroline.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So okay, that's an easy one. It's a belter. You
don't have to have any chops for that one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
Even then, it was not good for me.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
But Emma gets up there willingly and can she sing?

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Oh? Yeah, she she can sing anything.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I'm picturing her like the Hannah Wattingham character and Ted
Lasso when they all go out for karaoke and they're
all like blown away. Yeah, that's Emma Hayes. All right,
I need to find some footage to this. Yeah, we
got to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

(33:17):
You mentioned that Emma is someone that you know you
can go to for any kind of advice. Who are
your player go tos on the national team, whether it's
about soccer or prepping for major tournaments or handling pressure.
Who are some of the folks you really look up
to and go feel like you can go ask questions of.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah, I think it's been really nice Emma giving opportunity
to a lot of younger players because we have each
other to go through these first experiences with, to really
kind of freak out with and calm each other's nerves.
So my go to girl is Claire Hutton. We were

(33:52):
roommates at the U twenty World Cup. We're so similar.
She's like literally my sister. So it's been so great
have each other at camp. But honestly, all the veterans
have been so amazing. Lynn has been great, like teaching
me the ropes of being a forward on that team
and making the most of your moment. But most of all,

(34:13):
I think Lindsay has been such a bright spot in
coming on to the national team. I feel like everything
she says is exactly what I need her to say
in that moment. I don't know how she knows, but
I'm like, dang, can you like talk to me every
game because I feel like whenever you say something, I'm like,
oh my gosh, that's perfect. So she has really taken

(34:36):
a lot of the younger players on the team under
her wing and really taught us what it is to
be a national team player, but also calmed a lot
of our nerves.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Those are some pretty good people to get life lessons
and footy lessons from Lindsay. Horan Heaps and Lynn, Biandolo
both know how to make the most of their moment.
That's for damn sure. Especially Lynn manages. She must have
the highest percentage of goals per minutes of any word sure,
because when she gets subbed down, it's like an instant,
instant score, instant offense. What part of your game are

(35:07):
you most focused on improving?

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah, I think I've talked a lot about with my coaches,
improving just my decision making and the final third of
when to pass, when to shoot went to Drobl. I
think I have a lot of the tools. It's just
really refining those and becoming like the most professional I
can in those decisions.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Nice. You share a hometown with the Mews sisters, one
of our faves, Sam and Christy Hanson Massachusetts. Safe to
say you grew up watching them? Oh yeah, and idolizing them.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Yeah, it was so funny. Sam was at the Player's
ball too, and we got a little Hanson Massachusetts picture.
And yeah. She's been such a like idol and mentor
of mine growing up.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
She brings it up a lot on her podcast. I
don't know if you listen to the women's game, but
when your name comes up, she has to be like
Hanson Massachusetts. That's literal like She's It's just.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I feel like some people really don't realize how small
the town is. So it's like, honestly kind.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Of wild population ten thousand, Like, yeah, that's small, that's crazy. Yes,
what other players did you watch growing up and model
your game after.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Yeah, there's so many on the national team. I think
Tobin Heath. I talked about her a lot and just
her creativity unc and she was like one of the
reasons I decided to go to you and see Anson
would just like talk about her for days, and I
was like, yeah, I can do that, Like I can
see myself trying to do that, even though I'll never

(36:38):
be able to do what she did. Just you know,
it's it's so cool to have those people growing up
like Ama Ham and a Tobin Heath and Marta. Honestly,
just watching her play, I think the first time I
played Orlando, I was a little bit starstruck.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, well, you also got to grow up with the
Boston Breakers in your area. Massachusetts is about to get
back into the NWSL game, with Boston Legacy FC set
to begin play next year, but the state did already
have an NWSL team, with the Boston Breakers playing in
the NWSL for five seasons and then also in the
WUSA and the WPS before that. Did you get out
to Breakers games as a kid?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Oh? Yeah, I had season tickets.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Amazing.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Yeah. I remember watching like Roosevel play for the Boston Breakers,
and I still have like a soccer ball of all
of their signatures on it, like my club team would
go all the time.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Is it hard for you to be on a team
with people that I mean, I know you're only twenty one,
so some of these players are going to have been
playing as you were growing up watching them, But to
literally be on a team with someone that you watched
when you were a child, how do you keep your cool?

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah? I think the first couple of times, I'm a
little bit like, oh my gosh, like I can't, I
can mess up, like I have to like give them
the perfect pass. But I think, like I said, they've
done such a good job at really integrating us young
ins into the group, and like I said, teaching us
kind of because it takes a bit of time to
get used to that environment and that style of play.

(38:06):
I'm still not like fully used to it, but I
think they make it so easy to play with them.
And you know, it's just little things like hey, like
do this next time, or like if you come underneath,
like it's going to be easier for me to play you.
So I think like they've really taken that role to heart,
and so it makes it so you feel like teammates

(38:28):
and you don't feel like they're these like crazy you
know idols that we used to literally try to stay
after hours after every game to get pictures with them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Do you have some of those photos that always surface
on social where it's like you're eight years old standing
next to one of your now teammates.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Oh, unfortunately do. I actually showed Rose one of them
last camp. I was like, this can't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
No, we need these on the socials. Please please load
them up, give us a good one sometime soon.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, I mean I feel like one benefit to Emma
Hayes bringing on so many new faces and letting so
many young players get to be a part of the
team is that there's communication that might not exist amongst veterans.
Right they're so used to playing together they might even
get into routines and rhythms, Whereas you've got a bunch
of newbies that you're trying to figure out how to integrate,
and it probably forces them to communicate even with each

(39:18):
other more than they did before. So I think it's
so smart for Emma and the rest of the team
to do that. All right, let's talk NWSL. I said
at the beginning of the show that you were the
number one pick in the twenty twenty four draft, which
makes you, in theory, the last number one NWSL draft
pick ever, because the draft has since been abolished. Is
that kind of like a cool trivia stat that you

(39:39):
get to carry around for the rest of your life.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Yeah, it's like so random, honestly.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, but fun, And yeah it's cool.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
I mean it's kind of weird to think about because
that was just the pathway for so long. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well, is there any part of you that is like, Man,
I missed it by one year and I could have
been a free agent and selected where I wanted to
go and chosen.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah. I think there's an element of that. But at
the same time, you can't go back in time, and
I think everything really does have been for a reason
in your career, and it teaches you different things that
you might have not learned if you got to choose,
if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, yeah, and that's such a good attitude in my
opinion too. For life is Yes, of course, it's good
to always look back and make sure you're learning from
the past. But if you spend too much time thinking
about how things would have gone differently, if this had happened,
or you had made this choice, or you had done this,
you can't change it. So you're really just like spinning
your wheels instead of looking ahead and trying to figure
out how to make the best of whatever did happen

(40:36):
or whatever choice you did make. You didn't finish college
because you were drafted midway through your time at UNC.
It feels like a lot of players are making the
choice to leave early, especially with the salaries going up,
the investments in teams getting better, the professionalization of the
league improving. Do you feel like you missed out at all,
just as developing as a person in college and do

(40:59):
you have plans to make go back at some point?

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Well, I did graduate, you did in the two years?
I did graduate? Holy I was there for two and
a half years and then I did us. I did
classes my whole first year as a professional, so I
actually graduated in person December congratulations.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Thanks so impressive, And yeah, it's a tough school. Yeah,
really tough. That's very impressive.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Yeah, education is super important to me, and I knew
I wouldn't have left if I wouldn't have been able
to finish my career. I mean finish my degree, not
my career. Yeah, finish my degree. I was super keen
on it. My mom has always been very involved with
my education and really taught me so much about how
education is power and knowledge is power, and I think

(41:48):
it's something that's really important to me as a person.
So I made sure I was able to finish. And
it was awful at times. I was taking booms at
six forty five in the morning all summer last year,
so it wasn't easy, but I'm very proud of myself
and I think it was I mean, I actually just
guess lectured at a UNC class this morning with one

(42:11):
of my old professors.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So way, what was the class?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yeah, sports Calm. I took it a summer when I
was in college, so it's I think. I'm so grateful
I made the decision to go to college. I think
it is personal and up to every single individual, and
it's different for everyone, but I learned so much, like
you said, about myself and about who I am. I
made so many connections. I have a lot of friends

(42:36):
outside of soccer that I still keep in touch with today.
So even though I was only there for two and
a half years, I really soaked it all in and
got that college experience, which I wouldn't change for the world.
So yes, I do miss it, and sometimes I wish.
I'm like, oh, I wish I had more time, but
I think everything has really gone the way that I

(42:58):
wanted in the sense of, you know, you can't go backwards,
but I think it's been great going forward.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, that's so great. I love your mom's advice. What
do your parents do for a living? Are they intellectuals?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Both my parents are very smart. My mom is brilliant.
I wish I will be able to write an essay
like her someday, but I don't know because they're so good.
But yeah, that my mom's an accountant, my dad's a
financial advisor. So like type A, I'm Type A. And
then my sister's so funny. She's like totally Type B.

(43:33):
But she's brilliant as well, so we just like let
her do her thing.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
She an artist or something creative type.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
She yep, artists but brilliant. And then my brother's also
like a little type a nice but yeah, they were
always like soccer is not who you are. It's just
a part of you and it's what you do and
it's what like God's gift to you, and like you're
really great at it, but do not let that be
like your entire personality. And I really think them for that.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, you seem really like you've got a great head
on your shoulders, especially for a youngster, so it seems
like they raised your right. I've never been out to
a Utah game, so tell me what makes game day
for the Royal special? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
I think Utah is such a stunning state. Our stadium
is right next to the mountains, so like even on
the field you can see like the glimpse of the
mountains with the sunset. I'm like, can I watch the
game here and playing? So it's really beautiful. I think
we have a lot of really dedicated fans that you
see them game in and game out, so that's really

(44:34):
special because they've come become a part of our family.
And yeah, I think we're a growing team where obviously
not in the best place record wise, but I think
the people on the team are what makes it. There's
a lot of fight, there's a lot of you know, leadership,
and there's a lot of just good people on this team.

(44:55):
So I'm really hoping that that can turn into some
wins for everyone.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, right now, bottom of the table in the NWSL.
How do you stay positive and motivated for every game?
What do you use as a motivator if the playoffs
or maybe winning the championship isn't in reach.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yeah, it's really hard, honestly, and I won't sugarcoat it
into that it's all it's all just oh no sun
Jinda rainbows. It's really hard, and I think especially coming
from a team like u NC, where if we lost
it was like the end of the world and we
like had a team meeting about it. Like just coming
from a winning team, it's really hard to go into

(45:33):
like a losing streak. And I mean only won one
game this year, so it's very difficult and we are
definitely in a low. But I've been really trying to
just enjoy the journey because I was listening to just
a podcast the other day and it was like, if
you only enjoy the success and the trophies, like that's

(45:53):
gonna last you moments and minutes. You really have to
just soak in like the day to day and enjoy
the finishing drills, and enjoy like the team events like
after practice, and really just dedicate yourself to like the development,
because that's all you can control right now. You can't
really control the wins.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
That's really smart. What do you think is missing for
the team? What needs to change to Seymour WS.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Yeah, I think consistency. I think we do have good moments,
but then we have a lot of lapses and those
have been punished by pretty much every team. So I think,
you know, just the consistency and whether it be like
set pieces, defensively finishing, I think just continuing to raise

(46:39):
that level. And I think also just really working on
those connections up top. We've had a lot of people
come back from injury, so really hammering in the connections.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, for sure. I've got a silly question for you.
The Financial Services Company Ally is a big sponsor of
the NWSL. They've got their name and their logo all
over the place, fields and billboards to parties. Does it
ever feel like the endw yourself is just like celebrating
you everywhere you go.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
Yeah. I always like joking with my friends and like,
you guys, wish you had your first name and your
last name on your jersey, don't you. And it's funny
because I saw a l o y so perfect.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
You're there, You're there.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
It's like whenever I go to Spain, I'm like expecting
to be so excited because everything except for it's in Spanish,
so it's Espanya, so it's not quite the same. But
everything that they make for tourists does say Spain on it.
So I have my selection of every kind of like
hacky T shirt all over the country that I can rock,
which is sea exactly. All right, we've got a speed

(47:40):
round here, so quick on these. I need your favorite,
so get to hype you up before a game?

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Uh disturbing of Ariana.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Oh favorite post game meal?

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Ooh anything like potatoes so weird, but like I don't
know a potatoes like anything salty potato.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I feel like for scump with potatoes, I'm like, you
know the scene where they just like rattle off every
kind of shrimp. That's me with potatoes. I will eat
anything that is potato. Leased what's your go to off
day activity to relax and unwind.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Ooh that's a good one. Honestly, cooking dinner with friends?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I love that. That's so fun. Who on your team
is good at cooking?

Speaker 5 (48:23):
I will give two. Poe makes some really fun recipes
and I really enjoy it. And then Kate Delfava, who's
my neighbor. We like always switch off cooking and she's
a very good cook.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
What about my girl Tatumlazzo? She used to be on
My Red Stars.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Gosh, I love Tatum, but she is usually a guest
at dinner.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Isn't that nice though, that you get to be a
ghost and not have to have the skills and still
get exactly get to get the goods. Who's the dream
celeb to have at one of your games?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Either Simone Biles or Cocoa Golf.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Those are both fantastic retired US women's national team player
you most wish you could have played with?

Speaker 5 (49:11):
Tobin?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, I knew that was coming. My producer Alex looked
it up and apparently you were four years old when
it came out. So she wants to know how that
became your favorite pregame.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Song because I think, like anything Rihanna.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Yeah, that's kind of a crazy stuff though.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, all right, final question. People do bench dark cut.
We do good, gooder, goodest, so that way you don't
have to cut anything. Everything could be good, but something's
got to be the goodest, and something so good good
or goodest. Alex Morgan's pink headband, Trinity Rodman's pink braids

(49:46):
or Megan Rappino's pink hair.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Megan Rapino's hair is good, Trinity's braids are gooder. Alex
Morgan's head band is goodest.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Okay, why is al goodest?

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Because I think I could see myself wearing a pink headband, okay,
and I feel like it's just iconic, Like you know,
when little girls are wearing it, You're like, yeah, that's
that's good Alex.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I also appreciate that you, like me, understand that we
probably couldn't pull off Rappinos or Trinity's look.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
I think that's the thing. It's just like I cannot
imagine a result with pink hair. I think they crush it.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I do just I'm not cool enough for that. It's
just too iconic. It's two theirs. Yeah, well, Ali, we
look forward to seeing what your thing is other than bangers.
So far your thing is bangers long range shots that
are absolutely insane. But we've had so much fun watching
you in this early start with the national team and
your time with the Royals. Just keep in you. You're

(50:42):
doing such a great job and you're handling yourself so well.
I know I sound like a mom or something, but
it's just been really fun to watch.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Thanks so much to Ali for joining us twice. We
have to take another break when we come back. One
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person baby fever. Not me, obviously, My only maternal instinct
is for dogs. But other people, you know, people who
like babies and stuff. Anyway, the halftime entertainment during a
game between the Aces and the Minnesota Links in Vegas

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on Saturday was a baby race, and baby number eight
did not come to mess around. This kiddle was already
off to the races, crawling like a champ, boasting a
hefty lead, when all of a sudden she pushed herself
up to her feet and started walking. The baby's mom
was like beckoning her in shock from the finish line,
and then wrapped her in a big old hug when

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she won the race, and later the kiddo's dad said
she'd been trying to stand at home, but this was
the very first time she'd taken steps. That's the kind
of competitive spirit we like to see. And the whole
thing was caught on video and on the JumboTron for
all of michelob Ultra Arena to see and of course
for the parents to show that kiddo when they're old enough.
We'll link to the video in our show notes so

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you can check it out too. Now it's your turn
rate and review. Thanks to listening. See you tomorrow for
my conversation with US women's national team and got them
FC midfielder Rose Lavelle. Good Game, Ali s Good Game,
Ali w Gosh, what are the odds? We have two
Alley headlines in one show? People who never gave a

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shit about women's sports but are now writing op eds
about fowls that amount to civil rights offenses. Seriously, double few.
Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports
production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You
can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
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our producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones. Our executive
producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan, and Emily Rutterer.
Our editors are Emily Rutterer, Britney Martinez, Grace Lynch, and
Gianna Palmer. Our associate producer is Lucy Jones. Production assistance
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