July 14, 2025 • 40 mins
In this heartfelt episode, Granger and Tyler get real about grief, hope, and what it means to look forward after losing a loved one. The guys start off sharing news about the new podcast Instagram and some behind-the-scenes updates, but quickly dive deep into personal stories—reflecting on the recent loss of their grandmother, her remarkable life growing up in West Texas, and how grief changes when you’re rooted in Christ.
From the rise of AI and how technology is changing our relationship with memory and loss, to practical conversations about the dangers of living in the past and the promise of eternal life, this episode wrestles honestly with what it means to say goodbye—and why, for Christians, it’s never really goodbye forever. Tyler opens up about processing his first loss as a born-again believer and Granger shares biblical wisdom from John 21 and 1 Thessalonians, pointing listeners to the hope found in Jesus rather than just memories or even the people we miss most.
The episode also tackles listener questions—like how to love a spouse who isn’t yet a believer, and advice for a 17-year-old longing for marriage and family. Through it all, Granger and Tyler emphasize the importance of patience, prayer, and contentment in every season.
If you’re grieving, feeling stuck in the past, or just need a reminder of the hope we have in Christ, this one’s for you. Hit play and be encouraged to fix your eyes forward—because the best really is yet to come.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, well, welcome back to the podcast. I'm so
good to have ant Man Tyler with us. Good discussion
ahead today. I want to remind everybody that we have
now created an Instagram account for this very thing, so
that we could have clips from this podcast, information about
this podcast, because and we were just talking about this
earlier on my Instagram. People are not used to seeing
(00:24):
me promoting other things other than me and my family
and my music. Really, so if I was going to
do a post of a guest on the podcast, people
are like, what am I watching here? Because of grangers
I didn't start my life as a podcast host, So
we had that what's that? What's that? Instagram?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Instagram is granger Smith Pod at grangersmith Pod. Now, all
these are going to be linked in the description of
this video if you're watching right now, if you're listening,
you can find it in the description of this podcast.
But Instagram is at grangersmith Pod. No cast at the end,
the YouTube is Grangersmith Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Okay, yeah, so that that's a place that's going to
be a home eventually for everything. We're not going to
migrate totally get but we're moving that direction.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
If you go there, you can get the video that
you've always watched on the Granger Smith channel the podcast,
if that's where you watch it normally, if you've watched
for years, that all those same videos you'll find on
the Granger Smith podcast channel. It's I mean just like normal. Uh,
they're there. It's a shared playlist. So no matter what
channel you're on, you can see the podcast. If you're
(01:31):
on the podcast channel, though, you get some extras. We'll
do clips and shorts and things like that, and some
special videos that are just on that account.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Since we record these a little bit ahead. Yeah, if
I die, would you still release an episode?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Should we talk about let's talk about that now. You
tell me your wishes. I'll make sure they're taking care of.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I got a bunch of unreleased songs. As a manager,
would you put out an album of unreleased songs? I
got a bunch. How long would you wait after I die?
Speaking of what we're talking about, you wanting to make
sure everything is perfect, I'd just release them good, all
the all the demos. Maybe I'd hit up Frank or
Jordan Schmidt and say, hey, you clean this up a
little bit. What what about the podcast? Would you just
(02:12):
like go in consecutive order. Just we know he's dead,
but we're going to put out another episode since we
recorded this, would you or would you like hold on
to it as an unspecial episode couple?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, you can just hang on to them or clips
of them, like parts of them. This is the part
that has never been seen before. It's just you taking
your hat off, rubbing your head.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Because that is an interesting thought, Like, you know, we
all have an expiration date, and it's I don't I
don't plan on just stopping, uh and retiring from everything.
And because these days it's unlike the past where you know,
you know, now we just we're always creating content and
at some point I'm going to die or one of
y'all is going to die, and we're gonna have content
(02:55):
of the dead person.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's true. Yeah, Fortunately, though I don't create content of
me very much create content of other people.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
About to ask that maybe we just are in this
world and have lived it for so long? Does everybody
create content these days? Are there people that don't?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Man, A lot of people do a lot of it,
even if it's just even if they don't think that
they're content creators. If you're taking pictures and posting them
on Instagram or Facebook. Your con that's content.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What about after midnight? Would you run an after midnight
radio show if I was dead?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I think that's up to Premiere.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We have a boss. We have a big boss that
would have to make that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I've got a show done, can we we would play it.
We do talk about this. There are version there are
pieces of that show. That's a that's a different thing
because we I have so much dry voice of Granger
that I could pump that all into AI. We continue
to have.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Let's not get into a I we lost too long ago.
Have recently? Have you seen the interviews and it takes
me like twenty seconds to if it's real or not.
And then you'll see like a flag waving in the
background and it's kind of blurry and you're like, oh,
you already see smoke, and you recognize AI smoke right now?
You can still like, for instance, the reason I say
that is because there's so much Middle East missiles and
(04:15):
war and you're like, oh, it's not real. It's like
a city and missiles are coming and hitting it, people
are running, and you go, wait a minute, my algorithm.
My algorithm is a lot of fitness stuff. So I'll
see like a guy that's like obviously on steroids, oh,
like huge, and there's a reporter like interviewing him, like,
so what supplements do you take? Easy?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I only take cretine and weight protein powder. That's it. No,
no steroids, no nothing. It's a I you're saying, it's yeah, yeah,
but it looks real. Have you seen the newscast? Newscasters
down they're out like in a storm. They're like Diana
Williams the Chennel four News that the flood is rising
(04:56):
and there's like sharks and stuff in the bottoms, and
you're like, looks so real. Their rain's coming down. They're
standing in like waste deep water and there's sharks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Is from Google? Right? The one that's really good?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Something three A row three or whatever. I saw a
video on my YouTube pop up that said, oh one
was just released that completely kills that one, and that's
going to be the new video you see, Well, this
one kills the last one, kills the last one.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
If you die there, there will be an AI version
if if the audience demands it in premiere is cool
with it and they'll send checks to Hamber of using
your likeness for sure. That's nuts, man, I mean would
be okay with it. I won't. I won't care.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, But right now knowing that that right now, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It provides for Yeah, if it provides provides for the
family and there get their meals paid for. Now, there
there's videos of President Trump that are like almost perfect
that that are fake. So yeah, I don't know. We're
entering in a world we've we've seen this coming. We
(06:08):
saw this coming a few years now. We're kind of
now entering the new era of a I don't even
know why we're talking about this.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The it's interesting. We've taught you say that we've talked
about it, but we've literally talked about it after midnight.
It's been topics and it's been a while. It might
be good to bring one of those back up, Yeah,
to see and replay some of the old ones, like
maybe two years ago AI conversations, because it is drastically changed.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
When was the last time you used Google? Because all
I do is go to chat gubutino, I still do both.
I find myself trying to go to Google and I'm like,
what am I?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I I'll just ask.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because sponsored sponsored, sponsor doesn't answer anything I asked, and
chat juts they're changing that Google's were changing. I'm sure
they're struggling. They're hurrying right now. I read that there's
like now the Defense Department just paid like four hundred
million dollars to open AI because they're gonna they're using
it for the defense Department. Ukraine evidently has drones that
(07:06):
are completely autonomous AI that could make decisions to fire
on an enemy on its own, its own decision, So
I terminators here. It's it's crazy, but I'm not worried
about any of this stuff. It's it's interesting. I don't
lose sleep over any of this. I just I'm kind
of watching with popcorn watch, just eating popcorn watching now
(07:28):
because well, because I'm a Christian, because i I my
hope is grounded in Christ, not in human yes, Sarah
Connor human civilization, because that that that will always fluctuate
and ebb and flow, and and my faith in Christ
will not. So there's that. But also it's kind of
(07:51):
it's kind of fun to see it as it unfolds
and just think, wow, this is cool. You know. Let
me let me say this we just lost our grandmother
and we there are there there is an AI app
(08:12):
that I don't know if I've talked to you about
this before, but there is an AI app that will
take old photographs and make them come to life. Right,
So so yeah, so we we were doing that, playing
with pictures of my grandmother from the nineteen thirties, forties, fifties,
and she's it makes the picture come to life with
the people in the picture with them. And so that
(08:35):
that's just the beginning, because soon I'll say that we
will lose a loved one and you'll be able to
then either speak to a hologram with them or you'll
be able to watch that they'll be able to speak
at their own funeral. I know, I agree, Tyler. I
don't like it either, That's right, that's a point in AI.
(08:56):
I'm like, no, because I've seen friends and if you
lose somebody just at which everybody has or will. Like
last night, for instance, I started thinking about our grandma,
and man, you can quickly go down a self you know,
or self pity, like feeling sorry for yourself, getting sad.
(09:17):
And I said, nope, I love many. I'm thinking of
something else immediately changing the thought process to positive. And
everybody's different, but I'm like, I'm not going to waste
the next thirty minutes thinking about sad memories. They're just
and some people might think that's cold or something, but
to your point, man, yeah, people are gonna just are
going to live with that hologram with on twenty four
(09:39):
to seven. It's like, that's a I'm looking forward is
my whole point. So I want to go to that.
I'm very grateful, but I want to double click on
what you just said. I'm looking forward, But I also
just want to touch one more time that the future
is coming where people will have a choice to have
the deceased level and speak at the funeral, to speak
(10:00):
to their children, to speak words of encouragement back to them.
It's very scary, but I think people will be tempted
to do that. And it's literally literally necromancy speaking to
the dead in a modern version of it, where you're
not speaking to the dead, You're you're speaking to a
mimicking echo of an algorithm that's representing that person. I
(10:25):
don't think this exists yet, but it's coming.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I guarantee it's been talked about. You talked about you know,
they're working on it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You'll at the very least you'll be able to sit
at a funeral and watch on a screen as they say,
now a message from Grandma and she goes, hey, everybody,
don't stress, don't be sad. I'm in a better place now.
And Mike, thank you so much for everything you've done.
And like it's gonna be and everyone's gonna be crying
(10:54):
and they're literally watching AI. That's coming, if not a
hologram staying at a podium, you know, actually speaking, and
people will be talking for years, for decades. People already
have trouble moving forward in grief, they're gonna have a
lot of trouble if they literally they're talking to their
(11:15):
deceased spouse every day after they get off work. That's coming.
But let's talk about what you said, Toller. Why is
it that we look forward and man, after losing many
it's like a oh man, old the old grief, the
old friend grief comes back and you go, oh, there
(11:35):
it is again. There's that feeling of grief that we
get when we lose someone very close to us. It's
a very unique feeling that comes creeping back up into
the bottom your throat, you know. And there is something
about us humans that we love. We find a kind
(12:00):
of a sinister comfort in remembering and looking backwards at
a loved one and memory the good memories from that
loved one. And then we take it one step further
and we remind ourselves that that memory will never happen again.
(12:20):
We do that to ourselves in a very it's very
strange how the human brain does that. And I believe
that's because the brain was never created to understand to
comprehend death, because we weren't created for death as a
result of the fall. We were not created to end,
to end our being right. And so when it does
(12:44):
temporarily on this earth, and we see it from our
temporal eyes and our temporal brains, using ten percent of
our brains, we can understand how a person is no
longer existing. They're now six feet under the ground in
a wooden box, or they are ashes burned in an oven,
(13:04):
sitting in a little vase urn. We can't comprehend that,
and we especially for like I just talked to him yesterday,
or I have these memories on my iPhone, all these
videos of this person. How could they not be here?
And so then your brain, if you let it relax,
it goes backwards and all. It never looks forwards. It
(13:26):
always looks backwards at the good old times. I remember
Mannie waving from the from the porch as I went away.
I'll never see that again. I remember Mannie taking me
to the grocery store in the pickup truck and getting
some milk so we can make gravy. And I'll never
taste the gravy again. It's said of that, it's immediately, Wow,
(13:48):
I had a grandma that stood out there and waved. Wow.
I had a grandma that took the time to go
take me to the you know. And I'm not saying
I'm great at that, but it's like, immediately just switching
that to gratefulness. Man, Yeah, credible Grandma. The natural brain
doesn't go there. I know. Yeah, I struggle. We all
struggle with that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I think for a lot too, that people struggle with
how much grief is too much? And you know, what
is what is healthy and what is not? And I
think that line is hard to hard to find. You know.
There was a particular guy I remember at EEE Fest
that came up and he was talking about his father
he had some like ashes or something, you know, in
(14:26):
a necklace or something, and it had been years and
he's an atheist and he's still mourning.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, because there's no I think that's I think that's
the whole thing. Man. I've had some losses in my family. Uh,
and this this is the first loss I've had as
a Christian. Mmmm, which I just realized as we're talking
about it and we're trying to filter through my grief process.
Even though you always start we grew up Christians, you know,
(14:53):
we grew up and see, I know what you're saying,
but just to clarify, for clarify, we've always thought we
were I've always on to church, We've always learned, we've
always understood the gospel born again Christian where I am
I am his and he is mine. I'm you know,
being being Christ's treasure. He's my treasure. Yeah, He's above
all else. He sustains me, he holds me in the
(15:15):
palm of his hand. So yeah, I'm just working through
this right now. But it's like this is the first
major loss with with Christ. And so yeah, I don't
know where I'm going with that, but it's makes sense.
There's a peace and a hope and a love and
not that I didn't have that with Dad and Riv,
(15:36):
but it's just in every every or your other grandparents
or yeah, her uncles lost her aunts.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What's your first one after being truly transformed?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, so And for context, she was an awesome grandmother,
Like if you could think of a good grandmother, she
was there. She was there. She was in the good category,
you know, like very present with kids, just loved us
so favoritism left each in their own way. Yeah, it
(16:09):
just was always so present and and caring and serving
and really good cook and and so uh you got
incredible biscuits and gravy. And came from a generation where,
you know, she's literally born into a home in West
Texas on a farm where they didn't have electricity or
running water and or a car. You know, it was
(16:32):
like it was a horse and buggy. So she's the
last generation, she's the most dynamic generation will we'll ever know.
I would imagine that's a I can make that statement,
going from horse and buggy, no electricity to the end
of her life AI.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Two different worlds.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't think there's been that big a change ever
in human history. I don't think in that amount of time,
because horse and buggy wouldn't have been that too different
from two hundred years before that or five hundred years
before that or eight hundred years before that. It wouldn't
be that different.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Was not that drastic.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
What year was she born? Nineteen twenty six?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, that's goodness.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, but not just nineteen twenty six, but in West
Texas farm nineteen twenty six with her when her dad
was born in eighteen eighty six. Yeah. I don't know
if you said it, but she had a dirt Their
house was a dirt floor. Yeah, like dirt floor with
no electricity raised all their their they either grew their
food or their animals were their food. They're you know,
(17:32):
the town was you know many our buggy ride and
you go to town to get salt and sugar, and
that all their dresses were made of potato sacks, that
mama sod shoes. I have all this because I've recorded
a forty five minute thing. You're playing that the other
day fifteen years ago. I recorded this and put it together.
(17:54):
We could tell me the other day he goes Mini's
dancing in heaven with their potato sack on something like that.
She said that. She said, when she was a little girl,
they they wanted to be barefoot so bad that Mama
would put it on the calendar the day they could
finally go barefoot. That was the day's school let out.
They were looking forward to that more than other things
(18:16):
of summer. So they got finally get that day. No
more shoes until the fall. Oh, those crumby old shoes,
you know that they didn't they didn't want to deal
with so they would go all summer with those shoes.
That was That's the way she grew up.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What a year, because I'm not a Texas boy from Oklahoma,
what year did Texas become a state?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'm eighteen thirty six? Was declaration of Independence? Yeah, I think, man,
I'm sorry, eighteen am I.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Just super close to that, you know, I mean I
say super close, not if it was eighteen thirty six.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But yeah, and then it was only it was only
like or nine years later when they were annexed to
the United States. Okay, Yeah, they got their freedom from
Mexico and there was like a very short within a
decade time period when they were their own sovereign nation
and they were taken in.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I was like the man that and grew up in
the time where it's just I mean, you think about that.
It was not long after that, not long after it
became a state. Was she being raised in West Texas?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, And then to that point, her dad eighteen eighty six,
she was born nineteen twenty six. That would have just
been a few decades after the comanches were cleared from
that land. No, not eighteen eighty he was born in
eighteen eighty six. Yeah, they were still that was the
very end of their their hardcore reign, like was seventies
(19:48):
and into the eighties. So yeah, her dad parents were
in it.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You know what I can't wait to see is the
comments on this one. Correct. Yeah, this is actually what
happened during that for you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah. So all that to say, my point is to
Tyler's point about looking forward. What hit me hard the
other day was John twenty one, which just happened to
be in my daily reading. Read If you're going through
grief and you're a Christian, meaning you're born again, you
believe in Christ, you trust in Jesus for the forgiveness
(20:22):
of your sins, then read John twenty one again and
think about think about grief through the eyes of that chapter.
It's interesting to think of this because in that chapter,
in John twenty one, Jesus has resurrected. Peter says, I'm
going fishing. John and the brothers they say, we're going
to They're all out there fishing fish all day. Don't
(20:45):
catch anything. There's a man on the shore. He says,
you guys catch anything, No, Hey cast over to the right.
So they do net fills with fish. That the whole
thing's weighing down. John goes, it's the Lord, which is interesting.
Right there, just if you pause right there, that's interesting.
(21:06):
He didn't know him. No one knows Jesus, the resurrected
Jesus until later, either it's revealed their eyes are opened,
or he speaks, or he says their name in the
case of Mary. But in different instances it's revealed to
them who he is, but they never they never recognize
him right away. It's the Lord, Peter. Peter sees it,
(21:29):
throws on his outer garment, dives into the water, swims
to him. They all get there and there he is,
and he's got a little charcoal fire. He says, hey,
put some of those fish you guys cut on here.
Let's eat, they sit around lounging at the fire and
have this conversation. Right, and and what's interesting if you
(21:51):
just think about that chapter and think about what's happening here,
Paul says. Paul writes that Jesus is the first from
the dead, meaning he's the first to get this new body,
the resurrected body, the renewed body that we know. We
don't know a lot about it, but we know it's
(22:11):
going to be perfect. We know it has no flaws.
We know we won't cry in this body. We won't
feel sorrow or sadness. We know that we won't have sickness.
It won't deteriorate or get old or malfunction. It'll be
perfect in that aspect. And we also know through this
chapter and through other chapters that it's not immediately recognizable.
(22:32):
Like if you saw me in my red my new body,
you wouldn't immediately go that's granger, but you would see
me as a human. Though, you would see me as
a person. You wouldn't think I'm an angel or a
ghost or a monster of any kind.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There's an apparition.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it's not that, and I'm not I don't have
some weird glow to me or wings. You know I
am a human, you would wreck regnize me as a human,
just not necessarily granger. But we would also eat together.
Jesus eats in this new body, and it's not because
(23:11):
he's hungry, but because it's fellowship and it's good food.
And we would enjoy the food because it's delicious and
it glorifies God in the gift of eating and fellowship
and conversation. And we would rest not because we're tired
from the hard day, but because we enjoy resting with
(23:32):
our friends. And we would walk, and we would work,
not because we need to earn money because we're broke
or we need to pay a bill, but because we
love to work and use our hands and cultivate the
soil of what God has given us me. So there's
so many things you could take away from that chapter.
But what we should think about when we're grieving a Christian,
(23:53):
a fellow believer in Christ that's gone from this earth,
we should think, this is not the last time. All
those memories of looking backwards, I'll never see your wave,
I'll never see your cook biscuits and gravy. We'll never
walk around the park and have a conversation. Wrong, that's
not what we get from the Bible. We get that
(24:13):
we will actually have a.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Dinner party, and we will eat, and we'll talk, and
we'll walk, and we'll work, and we'll love, and we
will we will have a communication with another human, not
in a weird celestial cloud apparition type way, you know,
Cupid sitting on sitting on a puffy cloud.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
We will. We will say, hey, let's eat, let's set up,
tell me about your day, what's going on. We will
have conversations back and forth. It's hard to comprehend that,
but if you focus on that looking forward, then you
think the memories and the temporal earth start to fade away. Yeah. Also,
yes we will. That was a great way of explaining
(24:54):
that we will see them again. But also what I
got from that was which side of the boat do
you want to be looking on? Do you want to
be looking at the side of the boat without Jesus
where you're not catching anything, or do you want to
turn around and keep your eyes on Jesus and He's
going to give you everything far abundantly than you could
ever imagine. It's like, I want to be focused on
that side of the boat. Yeah, and that's a good
point because what you're saying we shouldn't, we shouldn't desire
(25:17):
heaven so that we could see Grandma right the wrong,
that's to your point. That's just an awesome perso. Man,
that's an extra perk. Yeah, we should we should desire
heaven because we're going to be with him, the One. Yeah,
literally fashioned and created what I didn't. You know what
I didn't realize until recently was I used to grow
up when I thought I was a Christian thinking I
can't wait to see Dad. Man, can't wait out, he
(25:39):
can't wait to hug him as soon as I get there,
and be like, no, it's I want to see Jesus first,
Like give me the One, yeah, the mad Dad. Yeah,
everything saves me. That shows me and got me out
of this world and said you were mine, Like let
me let me spend some time with him, And then
I imagine him going like this would be like local
and it's like Manny and Dad and rib mm hmm man.
(26:08):
That Yeah, that's so often we worship and idolize the
gifts and not the gift giver. Yeah, how how how
sad is it to to be so excited about the
the the present, and not the gift giver of the present.
(26:28):
When the gift giver knows everything about the present, literally
made the present, loved you so much that he gave
you the present, you know. Yeah, and then when, but
when we get to heaven, we'll enjoy the presence with
the gift giver and we'll eat evidently fish, I like that,
drink wine. Evidently fish man. No time to waste. Whoever's watching,
(26:53):
repent and believe today is the day of salvation. The
best is yet to come. Man. Yeah, that's coming from
some that lost my grandma, and I was up with
the few days ago.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
If you are grieving now, dear and now, dear brothers
and sisters, we want you to know what will happen
to the believers who have died, so you will not
grieve like people who have no hope. For since we
believe that Jesus died and was raised to life again,
he also believed that when Jesus returns, God will bring
back with him the believers who have died. We tell
(27:25):
you this directly from the Lord. We who are still
living when the Lord returns, will not meet him ahead
of those who have died. For the Lord himself will
come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the
voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet call of God.
First the believers who have died will rise from their graves. Then,
together with them, we who are still alive and remain
on the earth, will be caught up in the clouds
(27:46):
to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will
be with the Lord forever. Don't grieve like those who
have no hope. It's incredible first these alliance.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
When Jesus says, no one who puts it puts his
hand on the plow and looks back, it's fit for
the Kingdom of God. There there is an implication of
of the the negative side of looking backwards and wishing
and grieving and and self deprecating like you were mentioning earlier. Yeah,
(28:20):
you're gonna you will get stuck. It is a it's
a dangerous quicksand to continue to look back as a Christian. Now,
if you're if you're an atheist or an agnostic and
you don't know, you don't trust Christ, you might as
well look back. That's all you have. Yeah, yeah, might
as well. Dude, live it up.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Don't do that i'd really, you know, live it up really. Yeah,
here here what you've what you've heard, but.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You know, because this is all you have is yeah,
short time here on earth? Yeah, and it is short.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Even ninety nine years is short.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, especially comparing to eternity.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, not even a speck of sand.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Got some questions, you want to jump into them? Yeah?
Have you lost all your grandparents?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
They were most of them were all I had one. Now,
I had two grandmothers. Never had a grandfather while I
was alive, and it was close to both my grandmothers,
and so I lost them when I was young though,
either my my dad's MoMA lost when I was ten maybe,
(29:27):
and then my mom's and I think in my twenties,
early twenties.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, we've now Tyler and I've lost all of them.
It's the pyramid of life, as is the tip. As
you get closer in the tip, you get less and
less people up there. It's less, yeah, less crowded up
at the up there. We're not there yet, but as
we get closer, as you should. Take many For example,
our grandmother we just lost. It was just her, I mean,
(29:53):
she lost all of her six siblings. Obviously, her mom
and dad, or all our grandparents, all her son. Yeah,
she lost a son, two husbands, a grandson, a great grandson. Yeah,
she's you know, she was pretty lonely up there besides us.
(30:15):
So that's just the natural course. Here's the question come
from Johann.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Johanneyeah, okay, Johann, maybe.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Johan hey Granger. So I am a born again Christian,
but my wife hasn't come to that point yet. How
do I go about not pushing it too hard? But
I'm not sure which way to go or how to lead.
We started going to church, but I can tell that
she doesn't want to, and I think that she just
goes because she doesn't want to look like that kind
(30:45):
of mom that doesn't go. How do I go about
loving her and guiding her in the right direction. She
doesn't like hearing too much about it from me, and
so I tried not to push. I'm not sure I
got any advice. Patience, a lot of patience, a lot
of patience, a lot of prayer. And I think there's
a sense, Johan, there's a sense of not pushing. That's good.
(31:10):
That's a good thing because faith comes from hearing, hearing
the word of Christ. And if if she's heard from you,
then then the seed's planted, and now you're got to
live it. You'll let her live the gospel out in
front of her. I wouldn't pressure her to go to church.
Going to church doesn't save you. Having good spiritual disciplines
(31:31):
doesn't save you. Only faith in Christ saves you. And
going to church and spiritual disciplines, all that stuff is
a product of a heart that's changed and redeemed and
new and what now wants that? So, I mean, you
can make an argument that her going to church, she
could hear the gospel more, but I wouldn't push her
on that. I would love her like the Bible tells
(31:55):
you to love your wife, and I would. I would
her and care for her and pray for her, and
don't scold her for not going to church. When you
go to church, and tell the other families at church
the situation so they could be praying for you, and
so they could say, Hey, we want to invite your
(32:16):
family to dinner, and we want you to bring her
your wife, and and we'll just model this in front
of her. And to what we've been talking about. Sometimes
it's suffering, that's the switch, that's that snaps someone that
the Lord uses. So what do you guys think?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
My thought is, I think the I have an older
daughter who's getting married next May, and so I mentioned before,
I'm doing the doing the ceremony. So I've been thinking
a lot about this and how to challenge them in
their future together. And I think my first thought here
is I wouldn't worry so much about the church part
(32:58):
of it. I wouldn't worry more about what you're doing
as the leader of your home, in your house. And
that's not pressure, that's not guilt trips, that's not being
an iron being an iron fist. It's what you said,
loving and caring and leading and guiding. And are you
reading together? Are you reading the Bible together? Are you
praying together? Are you encouraging her by what you're reading
(33:24):
and what you're learning from from your alone time with God?
That will speak way louder than a preacher that she
doesn't know is has no fellowship with has you know?
And I think and the reason I say that, I
think a lot of times, and I've been guilty of
(33:44):
this in the past, is I don't know how to
deal with it. If I take her to church, they'll
deal with it instead of that, reflect inward first and
ask God to expose those things in your heart that
are not edifying to your marriage. He'll come those out
and start putting in the right stuff, and you can
lead your family to church rather than take them to church.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The church becomes a crutch, right, like Reial, he's especially here,
especially here. Yeah, yeah, you did he say that he's
became a believer, borning and believer after getting married. I
didn't say, well, okay, well, I was just going to say, y'all,
y'all summed it up. But I was going to say
that God doesn't make any mistakes. This is part of
(34:28):
his plan, you know the fact that he is and
she isn't yet he doesn't make any mistakes. Just keep
trusting and praying. Yeah, that's good. Absolutely, don't use church
as a crutch. Also, on a side note, people do
that with their kids. Yeah, Like you're not teaching your
kid the Bible because that's what they're doing church Sunday school.
(34:48):
That's Sunday School's job, right or children's another danger. Yeah,
we got another question. Kenny says, Hello, grand Jo, I'm
seventeen year old from Houston now from Houston now in Arizona.
I know this sounds weird coming from a teenager, especially
a guy, but I want a wife and children so much.
It is something I often cry over when I'm talking
with the Lord, and I don't know why it is
(35:10):
and why this is something I feel so strongly about.
I know it's good to be a teenager, but I
wish I was older and had a family. How do
I wait? How do I prepare myself? I love the
Lord and all that you do. Thanks bold.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
When you're young, you want to be older. When you're old,
you want to be young.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I want to be older.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Contentment, Yeah, that's a lack of contentment. It's a contentment problem.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Although I Kenny, I understand all of us say things
like that, but we hear you and been there.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And the mom says that those who wait for the
Lord shall renew their strength. They shall mount up with
wings like eagles, wait for the Lord. How do you
do that? What do you do while you're waiting?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'll say seven, I'm sorry, no, no, no, good at seventeen to
have that desire rather than some of the things you
can have at seventeen, like it's good like it's the
right track. It's like a horse, you know, with a bridle.
It's this thing can just run and go wherever. With
a bride's that power is restrained and directed.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Very mature for a seventeen year old.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, yeah, at least that thought process for sure. So
that part of it is not bad. Wanting a family
and wanting a wife and wanting you know, that's great
at seventeen, but for it to consume your life, you know,
I don't know, that's it's unbridled at the moment.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, wait patiently for the Lord. Yeah, I don't. I
don't know. I respect that. I think that's awesome. But
when you're seventeen, I'm assuming he's in high school. I'm
assuming he doesn't have it's not in college. And it's like, yeah,
you need to be focused on focusing on Jesus, but
focus on it yourself right now. Like I'm only saying
(37:03):
that just based on my personal experience and then also
based on watching Lincoln grow up. It's like, man, there's
so many things you need to be focused on besides
girls right now, because the chances of you marrying whoever
you're with at seventeen are very slim, I know that
there's stories of that happening, but don't waste your time.
(37:24):
I think to that point that there's a danger here
with Kenny, because if that's this is as as crazy
as it is for him that he's even writing an
email to this podcast. I want a wife, I cry
over this, he says, So I would be careful that
this is not revealing a deeper problem of discontentment that
(37:46):
could be satisfied wrongly by the first girl that comes
in the door.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, very true.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Here she is. I got this is my wife. No
more crying for me.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I was praying, and look who showed up.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Look who showed up? Thank you Lord. And the problems. Yes, yes,
because you're not You're you aren't seeking Christ first. You're
seeking the idol of a wife first. And it could
easily may may not be I'm not accu accusing you
of that, but it may be the beginning seeds of
what could easily become an idol if it's just the
(38:18):
idea of a wife, or even worse, an actual girl
that comes in and she actually becomes the idol, and
then you're worshiping her. You're trying to do everything you
can to please her. And to satisfy her because not
not because you're actually selflessly serving her, but because that's
that's what's fulfilling you. Is her in your life?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah? Yeah, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
So wait for the Lord. Not a girl, you know,
he said, how do I wait? Don't wait for her?
Wait for the Lord.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah. Oh that's a great point.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And surround yourself with other guys. You know, but planterlf
in a situation. You can't do this alone, Kenny, So
be in a circle of other godly men like Daniel
in the first chapter of Daniel. Go read the first
chapter of Daniel and see how he was not. Daniel
didn't do it alone. He couldn't do it alone. He
had three friends. They were godly friends, did eat. They
(39:19):
were necessary for him and his time as exile and
Babylon to face to stand and face the king as
a as a man. About your age, Kenny?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, you ready to go do this live?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah? Where are we going first?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Hopefully? Hopefully we can talk about that next week.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Okay, taking the podcast live?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, of where we'll be headed to?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, maybe Kenny will show.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Up, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, come on, Kenny, where is he from? Arizona. Oh yeah,
just a chance. Yeah, there's a chance.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We've been looking at Arizona.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Phoenix has always been a good market for it. Different,
different now, but true. All right, that's true. Appreciate you guys,
Thank you all, ye.
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All right, well, welcome back to the podcast. I'm so
good to have ant Man Tyler with us. Good discussion
ahead today. I want to remind everybody that we have
now created an Instagram account for this very thing, so
that we could have clips from this podcast, information about
this podcast, because and we were just talking about this
earlier on my Instagram. People are not used to seeing
(00:24):
me promoting other things other than me and my family
and my music. Really, so if I was going to
do a post of a guest on the podcast, people
are like, what am I watching here? Because of grangers
I didn't start my life as a podcast host, So
we had that what's that? What's that? Instagram?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Instagram is granger Smith Pod at grangersmith Pod. Now, all
these are going to be linked in the description of
this video if you're watching right now, if you're listening,
you can find it in the description of this podcast.
But Instagram is at grangersmith Pod. No cast at the end,
the YouTube is Grangersmith Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Okay, yeah, so that that's a place that's going to
be a home eventually for everything. We're not going to
migrate totally get but we're moving that direction.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
If you go there, you can get the video that
you've always watched on the Granger Smith channel the podcast,
if that's where you watch it normally, if you've watched
for years, that all those same videos you'll find on
the Granger Smith podcast channel. It's I mean just like normal. Uh,
they're there. It's a shared playlist. So no matter what
channel you're on, you can see the podcast. If you're
(01:31):
on the podcast channel, though, you get some extras. We'll
do clips and shorts and things like that, and some
special videos that are just on that account.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Since we record these a little bit ahead. Yeah, if
I die, would you still release an episode?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Should we talk about let's talk about that now. You
tell me your wishes. I'll make sure they're taking care of.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I got a bunch of unreleased songs. As a manager,
would you put out an album of unreleased songs? I
got a bunch. How long would you wait after I die?
Speaking of what we're talking about, you wanting to make
sure everything is perfect, I'd just release them good, all
the all the demos. Maybe I'd hit up Frank or
Jordan Schmidt and say, hey, you clean this up a
little bit. What what about the podcast? Would you just
(02:12):
like go in consecutive order. Just we know he's dead,
but we're going to put out another episode since we
recorded this, would you or would you like hold on
to it as an unspecial episode couple?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, you can just hang on to them or clips
of them, like parts of them. This is the part
that has never been seen before. It's just you taking
your hat off, rubbing your head.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Because that is an interesting thought, Like, you know, we
all have an expiration date, and it's I don't I
don't plan on just stopping, uh and retiring from everything.
And because these days it's unlike the past where you know,
you know, now we just we're always creating content and
at some point I'm going to die or one of
y'all is going to die, and we're gonna have content
(02:55):
of the dead person.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's true. Yeah, Fortunately, though I don't create content of
me very much create content of other people.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
About to ask that maybe we just are in this
world and have lived it for so long? Does everybody
create content these days? Are there people that don't?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Man, A lot of people do a lot of it,
even if it's just even if they don't think that
they're content creators. If you're taking pictures and posting them
on Instagram or Facebook. Your con that's content.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What about after midnight? Would you run an after midnight
radio show if I was dead?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I think that's up to Premiere.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We have a boss. We have a big boss that
would have to make that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I've got a show done, can we we would play it.
We do talk about this. There are version there are
pieces of that show. That's a that's a different thing
because we I have so much dry voice of Granger
that I could pump that all into AI. We continue
to have.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Let's not get into a I we lost too long ago.
Have recently? Have you seen the interviews and it takes
me like twenty seconds to if it's real or not.
And then you'll see like a flag waving in the
background and it's kind of blurry and you're like, oh,
you already see smoke, and you recognize AI smoke right now?
You can still like, for instance, the reason I say
that is because there's so much Middle East missiles and
(04:15):
war and you're like, oh, it's not real. It's like
a city and missiles are coming and hitting it, people
are running, and you go, wait a minute, my algorithm.
My algorithm is a lot of fitness stuff. So I'll
see like a guy that's like obviously on steroids, oh,
like huge, and there's a reporter like interviewing him, like,
so what supplements do you take? Easy?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I only take cretine and weight protein powder. That's it. No,
no steroids, no nothing. It's a I you're saying, it's yeah, yeah,
but it looks real. Have you seen the newscast? Newscasters
down they're out like in a storm. They're like Diana
Williams the Chennel four News that the flood is rising
(04:56):
and there's like sharks and stuff in the bottoms, and
you're like, looks so real. Their rain's coming down. They're
standing in like waste deep water and there's sharks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Is from Google? Right? The one that's really good?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Something three A row three or whatever. I saw a
video on my YouTube pop up that said, oh one
was just released that completely kills that one, and that's
going to be the new video you see, Well, this
one kills the last one, kills the last one.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
If you die there, there will be an AI version
if if the audience demands it in premiere is cool
with it and they'll send checks to Hamber of using
your likeness for sure. That's nuts, man, I mean would
be okay with it. I won't. I won't care.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, But right now knowing that that right now, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It provides for Yeah, if it provides provides for the
family and there get their meals paid for. Now, there
there's videos of President Trump that are like almost perfect
that that are fake. So yeah, I don't know. We're
entering in a world we've we've seen this coming. We
(06:08):
saw this coming a few years now. We're kind of
now entering the new era of a I don't even
know why we're talking about this.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The it's interesting. We've taught you say that we've talked
about it, but we've literally talked about it after midnight.
It's been topics and it's been a while. It might
be good to bring one of those back up, Yeah,
to see and replay some of the old ones, like
maybe two years ago AI conversations, because it is drastically changed.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
When was the last time you used Google? Because all
I do is go to chat gubutino, I still do both.
I find myself trying to go to Google and I'm like,
what am I?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I I'll just ask.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because sponsored sponsored, sponsor doesn't answer anything I asked, and
chat juts they're changing that Google's were changing. I'm sure
they're struggling. They're hurrying right now. I read that there's
like now the Defense Department just paid like four hundred
million dollars to open AI because they're gonna they're using
it for the defense Department. Ukraine evidently has drones that
(07:06):
are completely autonomous AI that could make decisions to fire
on an enemy on its own, its own decision, So
I terminators here. It's it's crazy, but I'm not worried
about any of this stuff. It's it's interesting. I don't
lose sleep over any of this. I just I'm kind
of watching with popcorn watch, just eating popcorn watching now
(07:28):
because well, because I'm a Christian, because i I my
hope is grounded in Christ, not in human yes, Sarah
Connor human civilization, because that that that will always fluctuate
and ebb and flow, and and my faith in Christ
will not. So there's that. But also it's kind of
(07:51):
it's kind of fun to see it as it unfolds
and just think, wow, this is cool. You know. Let
me let me say this we just lost our grandmother
and we there are there there is an AI app
(08:12):
that I don't know if I've talked to you about
this before, but there is an AI app that will
take old photographs and make them come to life. Right,
So so yeah, so we we were doing that, playing
with pictures of my grandmother from the nineteen thirties, forties, fifties,
and she's it makes the picture come to life with
the people in the picture with them. And so that
(08:35):
that's just the beginning, because soon I'll say that we
will lose a loved one and you'll be able to
then either speak to a hologram with them or you'll
be able to watch that they'll be able to speak
at their own funeral. I know, I agree, Tyler. I
don't like it either, That's right, that's a point in AI.
(08:56):
I'm like, no, because I've seen friends and if you
lose somebody just at which everybody has or will. Like
last night, for instance, I started thinking about our grandma,
and man, you can quickly go down a self you know,
or self pity, like feeling sorry for yourself, getting sad.
(09:17):
And I said, nope, I love many. I'm thinking of
something else immediately changing the thought process to positive. And
everybody's different, but I'm like, I'm not going to waste
the next thirty minutes thinking about sad memories. They're just
and some people might think that's cold or something, but
to your point, man, yeah, people are gonna just are
going to live with that hologram with on twenty four
(09:39):
to seven. It's like, that's a I'm looking forward is
my whole point. So I want to go to that.
I'm very grateful, but I want to double click on
what you just said. I'm looking forward, But I also
just want to touch one more time that the future
is coming where people will have a choice to have
the deceased level and speak at the funeral, to speak
(10:00):
to their children, to speak words of encouragement back to them.
It's very scary, but I think people will be tempted
to do that. And it's literally literally necromancy speaking to
the dead in a modern version of it, where you're
not speaking to the dead, You're you're speaking to a
mimicking echo of an algorithm that's representing that person. I
(10:25):
don't think this exists yet, but it's coming.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I guarantee it's been talked about. You talked about you know,
they're working on it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You'll at the very least you'll be able to sit
at a funeral and watch on a screen as they say,
now a message from Grandma and she goes, hey, everybody,
don't stress, don't be sad. I'm in a better place now.
And Mike, thank you so much for everything you've done.
And like it's gonna be and everyone's gonna be crying
(10:54):
and they're literally watching AI. That's coming, if not a
hologram staying at a podium, you know, actually speaking, and
people will be talking for years, for decades. People already
have trouble moving forward in grief, they're gonna have a
lot of trouble if they literally they're talking to their
(11:15):
deceased spouse every day after they get off work. That's coming.
But let's talk about what you said, Toller. Why is
it that we look forward and man, after losing many
it's like a oh man, old the old grief, the
old friend grief comes back and you go, oh, there
(11:35):
it is again. There's that feeling of grief that we
get when we lose someone very close to us. It's
a very unique feeling that comes creeping back up into
the bottom your throat, you know. And there is something
about us humans that we love. We find a kind
(12:00):
of a sinister comfort in remembering and looking backwards at
a loved one and memory the good memories from that
loved one. And then we take it one step further
and we remind ourselves that that memory will never happen again.
(12:20):
We do that to ourselves in a very it's very
strange how the human brain does that. And I believe
that's because the brain was never created to understand to
comprehend death, because we weren't created for death as a
result of the fall. We were not created to end,
to end our being right. And so when it does
(12:44):
temporarily on this earth, and we see it from our
temporal eyes and our temporal brains, using ten percent of
our brains, we can understand how a person is no
longer existing. They're now six feet under the ground in
a wooden box, or they are ashes burned in an oven,
(13:04):
sitting in a little vase urn. We can't comprehend that,
and we especially for like I just talked to him yesterday,
or I have these memories on my iPhone, all these
videos of this person. How could they not be here?
And so then your brain, if you let it relax,
it goes backwards and all. It never looks forwards. It
(13:26):
always looks backwards at the good old times. I remember
Mannie waving from the from the porch as I went away.
I'll never see that again. I remember Mannie taking me
to the grocery store in the pickup truck and getting
some milk so we can make gravy. And I'll never
taste the gravy again. It's said of that, it's immediately, Wow,
(13:48):
I had a grandma that stood out there and waved. Wow.
I had a grandma that took the time to go
take me to the you know. And I'm not saying
I'm great at that, but it's like, immediately just switching
that to gratefulness. Man, Yeah, credible Grandma. The natural brain
doesn't go there. I know. Yeah, I struggle. We all
struggle with that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I think for a lot too, that people struggle with
how much grief is too much? And you know, what
is what is healthy and what is not? And I
think that line is hard to hard to find. You know.
There was a particular guy I remember at EEE Fest
that came up and he was talking about his father
he had some like ashes or something, you know, in
(14:26):
a necklace or something, and it had been years and
he's an atheist and he's still mourning.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, because there's no I think that's I think that's
the whole thing. Man. I've had some losses in my family. Uh,
and this this is the first loss I've had as
a Christian. Mmmm, which I just realized as we're talking
about it and we're trying to filter through my grief process.
Even though you always start we grew up Christians, you know,
(14:53):
we grew up and see, I know what you're saying,
but just to clarify, for clarify, we've always thought we
were I've always on to church, We've always learned, we've
always understood the gospel born again Christian where I am
I am his and he is mine. I'm you know,
being being Christ's treasure. He's my treasure. Yeah, He's above
all else. He sustains me, he holds me in the
(15:15):
palm of his hand. So yeah, I'm just working through
this right now. But it's like this is the first
major loss with with Christ. And so yeah, I don't
know where I'm going with that, but it's makes sense.
There's a peace and a hope and a love and
not that I didn't have that with Dad and Riv,
(15:36):
but it's just in every every or your other grandparents
or yeah, her uncles lost her aunts.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What's your first one after being truly transformed?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, so And for context, she was an awesome grandmother,
Like if you could think of a good grandmother, she
was there. She was there. She was in the good category,
you know, like very present with kids, just loved us
so favoritism left each in their own way. Yeah, it
(16:09):
just was always so present and and caring and serving
and really good cook and and so uh you got
incredible biscuits and gravy. And came from a generation where,
you know, she's literally born into a home in West
Texas on a farm where they didn't have electricity or
running water and or a car. You know, it was
(16:32):
like it was a horse and buggy. So she's the
last generation, she's the most dynamic generation will we'll ever know.
I would imagine that's a I can make that statement,
going from horse and buggy, no electricity to the end
of her life AI.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Two different worlds.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't think there's been that big a change ever
in human history. I don't think in that amount of time,
because horse and buggy wouldn't have been that too different
from two hundred years before that or five hundred years
before that or eight hundred years before that. It wouldn't
be that different.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Was not that drastic.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
What year was she born? Nineteen twenty six?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, that's goodness.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, but not just nineteen twenty six, but in West
Texas farm nineteen twenty six with her when her dad
was born in eighteen eighty six. Yeah. I don't know
if you said it, but she had a dirt Their
house was a dirt floor. Yeah, like dirt floor with
no electricity raised all their their they either grew their
food or their animals were their food. They're you know,
(17:32):
the town was you know many our buggy ride and
you go to town to get salt and sugar, and
that all their dresses were made of potato sacks, that
mama sod shoes. I have all this because I've recorded
a forty five minute thing. You're playing that the other
day fifteen years ago. I recorded this and put it together.
(17:54):
We could tell me the other day he goes Mini's
dancing in heaven with their potato sack on something like that.
She said that. She said, when she was a little girl,
they they wanted to be barefoot so bad that Mama
would put it on the calendar the day they could
finally go barefoot. That was the day's school let out.
They were looking forward to that more than other things
(18:16):
of summer. So they got finally get that day. No
more shoes until the fall. Oh, those crumby old shoes,
you know that they didn't they didn't want to deal
with so they would go all summer with those shoes.
That was That's the way she grew up.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What a year, because I'm not a Texas boy from Oklahoma,
what year did Texas become a state?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'm eighteen thirty six? Was declaration of Independence? Yeah, I think, man,
I'm sorry, eighteen am I.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Just super close to that, you know, I mean I
say super close, not if it was eighteen thirty six.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But yeah, and then it was only it was only
like or nine years later when they were annexed to
the United States. Okay, Yeah, they got their freedom from
Mexico and there was like a very short within a
decade time period when they were their own sovereign nation
and they were taken in.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I was like the man that and grew up in
the time where it's just I mean, you think about that.
It was not long after that, not long after it
became a state. Was she being raised in West Texas?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, And then to that point, her dad eighteen eighty six,
she was born nineteen twenty six. That would have just
been a few decades after the comanches were cleared from
that land. No, not eighteen eighty he was born in
eighteen eighty six. Yeah, they were still that was the
very end of their their hardcore reign, like was seventies
(19:48):
and into the eighties. So yeah, her dad parents were
in it.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You know what I can't wait to see is the
comments on this one. Correct. Yeah, this is actually what
happened during that for you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah. So all that to say, my point is to
Tyler's point about looking forward. What hit me hard the
other day was John twenty one, which just happened to
be in my daily reading. Read If you're going through
grief and you're a Christian, meaning you're born again, you
believe in Christ, you trust in Jesus for the forgiveness
(20:22):
of your sins, then read John twenty one again and
think about think about grief through the eyes of that chapter.
It's interesting to think of this because in that chapter,
in John twenty one, Jesus has resurrected. Peter says, I'm
going fishing. John and the brothers they say, we're going
to They're all out there fishing fish all day. Don't
(20:45):
catch anything. There's a man on the shore. He says,
you guys catch anything, No, Hey cast over to the right.
So they do net fills with fish. That the whole
thing's weighing down. John goes, it's the Lord, which is interesting.
Right there, just if you pause right there, that's interesting.
(21:06):
He didn't know him. No one knows Jesus, the resurrected
Jesus until later, either it's revealed their eyes are opened,
or he speaks, or he says their name in the
case of Mary. But in different instances it's revealed to
them who he is, but they never they never recognize
him right away. It's the Lord, Peter. Peter sees it,
(21:29):
throws on his outer garment, dives into the water, swims
to him. They all get there and there he is,
and he's got a little charcoal fire. He says, hey,
put some of those fish you guys cut on here.
Let's eat, they sit around lounging at the fire and
have this conversation. Right, and and what's interesting if you
(21:51):
just think about that chapter and think about what's happening here,
Paul says. Paul writes that Jesus is the first from
the dead, meaning he's the first to get this new body,
the resurrected body, the renewed body that we know. We
don't know a lot about it, but we know it's
(22:11):
going to be perfect. We know it has no flaws.
We know we won't cry in this body. We won't
feel sorrow or sadness. We know that we won't have sickness.
It won't deteriorate or get old or malfunction. It'll be
perfect in that aspect. And we also know through this
chapter and through other chapters that it's not immediately recognizable.
(22:32):
Like if you saw me in my red my new body,
you wouldn't immediately go that's granger, but you would see
me as a human. Though, you would see me as
a person. You wouldn't think I'm an angel or a
ghost or a monster of any kind.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There's an apparition.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it's not that, and I'm not I don't have
some weird glow to me or wings. You know I
am a human, you would wreck regnize me as a human,
just not necessarily granger. But we would also eat together.
Jesus eats in this new body, and it's not because
(23:11):
he's hungry, but because it's fellowship and it's good food.
And we would enjoy the food because it's delicious and
it glorifies God in the gift of eating and fellowship
and conversation. And we would rest not because we're tired
from the hard day, but because we enjoy resting with
(23:32):
our friends. And we would walk, and we would work,
not because we need to earn money because we're broke
or we need to pay a bill, but because we
love to work and use our hands and cultivate the
soil of what God has given us me. So there's
so many things you could take away from that chapter.
But what we should think about when we're grieving a Christian,
(23:53):
a fellow believer in Christ that's gone from this earth,
we should think, this is not the last time. All
those memories of looking backwards, I'll never see your wave,
I'll never see your cook biscuits and gravy. We'll never
walk around the park and have a conversation. Wrong, that's
not what we get from the Bible. We get that
(24:13):
we will actually have a.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Dinner party, and we will eat, and we'll talk, and
we'll walk, and we'll work, and we'll love, and we
will we will have a communication with another human, not
in a weird celestial cloud apparition type way, you know,
Cupid sitting on sitting on a puffy cloud.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
We will. We will say, hey, let's eat, let's set up,
tell me about your day, what's going on. We will
have conversations back and forth. It's hard to comprehend that,
but if you focus on that looking forward, then you
think the memories and the temporal earth start to fade away. Yeah. Also,
yes we will. That was a great way of explaining
(24:54):
that we will see them again. But also what I
got from that was which side of the boat do
you want to be looking on? Do you want to
be looking at the side of the boat without Jesus
where you're not catching anything, or do you want to
turn around and keep your eyes on Jesus and He's
going to give you everything far abundantly than you could
ever imagine. It's like, I want to be focused on
that side of the boat. Yeah, and that's a good
point because what you're saying we shouldn't, we shouldn't desire
(25:17):
heaven so that we could see Grandma right the wrong,
that's to your point. That's just an awesome perso. Man,
that's an extra perk. Yeah, we should we should desire
heaven because we're going to be with him, the One. Yeah,
literally fashioned and created what I didn't. You know what
I didn't realize until recently was I used to grow
up when I thought I was a Christian thinking I
can't wait to see Dad. Man, can't wait out, he
(25:39):
can't wait to hug him as soon as I get there,
and be like, no, it's I want to see Jesus first,
Like give me the One, yeah, the mad Dad. Yeah,
everything saves me. That shows me and got me out
of this world and said you were mine, Like let
me let me spend some time with him, And then
I imagine him going like this would be like local
and it's like Manny and Dad and rib mm hmm man.
(26:08):
That Yeah, that's so often we worship and idolize the
gifts and not the gift giver. Yeah, how how how
sad is it to to be so excited about the
the the present, and not the gift giver of the present.
(26:28):
When the gift giver knows everything about the present, literally
made the present, loved you so much that he gave
you the present, you know. Yeah, and then when, but
when we get to heaven, we'll enjoy the presence with
the gift giver and we'll eat evidently fish, I like that,
drink wine. Evidently fish man. No time to waste. Whoever's watching,
(26:53):
repent and believe today is the day of salvation. The
best is yet to come. Man. Yeah, that's coming from
some that lost my grandma, and I was up with
the few days ago.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
If you are grieving now, dear and now, dear brothers
and sisters, we want you to know what will happen
to the believers who have died, so you will not
grieve like people who have no hope. For since we
believe that Jesus died and was raised to life again,
he also believed that when Jesus returns, God will bring
back with him the believers who have died. We tell
(27:25):
you this directly from the Lord. We who are still
living when the Lord returns, will not meet him ahead
of those who have died. For the Lord himself will
come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the
voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet call of God.
First the believers who have died will rise from their graves. Then,
together with them, we who are still alive and remain
on the earth, will be caught up in the clouds
(27:46):
to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will
be with the Lord forever. Don't grieve like those who
have no hope. It's incredible first these alliance.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
When Jesus says, no one who puts it puts his
hand on the plow and looks back, it's fit for
the Kingdom of God. There there is an implication of
of the the negative side of looking backwards and wishing
and grieving and and self deprecating like you were mentioning earlier. Yeah,
(28:20):
you're gonna you will get stuck. It is a it's
a dangerous quicksand to continue to look back as a Christian. Now,
if you're if you're an atheist or an agnostic and
you don't know, you don't trust Christ, you might as
well look back. That's all you have. Yeah, yeah, might
as well. Dude, live it up.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Don't do that i'd really, you know, live it up really. Yeah,
here here what you've what you've heard, but.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You know, because this is all you have is yeah,
short time here on earth? Yeah, and it is short.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Even ninety nine years is short.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, especially comparing to eternity.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, not even a speck of sand.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Got some questions, you want to jump into them? Yeah?
Have you lost all your grandparents?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
They were most of them were all I had one. Now,
I had two grandmothers. Never had a grandfather while I
was alive, and it was close to both my grandmothers,
and so I lost them when I was young though,
either my my dad's MoMA lost when I was ten maybe,
(29:27):
and then my mom's and I think in my twenties,
early twenties.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, we've now Tyler and I've lost all of them.
It's the pyramid of life, as is the tip. As
you get closer in the tip, you get less and
less people up there. It's less, yeah, less crowded up
at the up there. We're not there yet, but as
we get closer, as you should. Take many For example,
our grandmother we just lost. It was just her, I mean,
(29:53):
she lost all of her six siblings. Obviously, her mom
and dad, or all our grandparents, all her son. Yeah,
she lost a son, two husbands, a grandson, a great grandson. Yeah,
she's you know, she was pretty lonely up there besides us.
(30:15):
So that's just the natural course. Here's the question come
from Johann.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Johanneyeah, okay, Johann, maybe.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Johan hey Granger. So I am a born again Christian,
but my wife hasn't come to that point yet. How
do I go about not pushing it too hard? But
I'm not sure which way to go or how to lead.
We started going to church, but I can tell that
she doesn't want to, and I think that she just
goes because she doesn't want to look like that kind
(30:45):
of mom that doesn't go. How do I go about
loving her and guiding her in the right direction. She
doesn't like hearing too much about it from me, and
so I tried not to push. I'm not sure I
got any advice. Patience, a lot of patience, a lot
of patience, a lot of prayer. And I think there's
a sense, Johan, there's a sense of not pushing. That's good.
(31:10):
That's a good thing because faith comes from hearing, hearing
the word of Christ. And if if she's heard from you,
then then the seed's planted, and now you're got to
live it. You'll let her live the gospel out in
front of her. I wouldn't pressure her to go to church.
Going to church doesn't save you. Having good spiritual disciplines
(31:31):
doesn't save you. Only faith in Christ saves you. And
going to church and spiritual disciplines, all that stuff is
a product of a heart that's changed and redeemed and
new and what now wants that? So, I mean, you
can make an argument that her going to church, she
could hear the gospel more, but I wouldn't push her
on that. I would love her like the Bible tells
(31:55):
you to love your wife, and I would. I would
her and care for her and pray for her, and
don't scold her for not going to church. When you
go to church, and tell the other families at church
the situation so they could be praying for you, and
so they could say, Hey, we want to invite your
(32:16):
family to dinner, and we want you to bring her
your wife, and and we'll just model this in front
of her. And to what we've been talking about. Sometimes
it's suffering, that's the switch, that's that snaps someone that
the Lord uses. So what do you guys think?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
My thought is, I think the I have an older
daughter who's getting married next May, and so I mentioned before,
I'm doing the doing the ceremony. So I've been thinking
a lot about this and how to challenge them in
their future together. And I think my first thought here
is I wouldn't worry so much about the church part
(32:58):
of it. I wouldn't worry more about what you're doing
as the leader of your home, in your house. And
that's not pressure, that's not guilt trips, that's not being
an iron being an iron fist. It's what you said,
loving and caring and leading and guiding. And are you
reading together? Are you reading the Bible together? Are you
praying together? Are you encouraging her by what you're reading
(33:24):
and what you're learning from from your alone time with God?
That will speak way louder than a preacher that she
doesn't know is has no fellowship with has you know?
And I think and the reason I say that, I
think a lot of times, and I've been guilty of
(33:44):
this in the past, is I don't know how to
deal with it. If I take her to church, they'll
deal with it instead of that, reflect inward first and
ask God to expose those things in your heart that
are not edifying to your marriage. He'll come those out
and start putting in the right stuff, and you can
lead your family to church rather than take them to church.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The church becomes a crutch, right, like Reial, he's especially here,
especially here. Yeah, yeah, you did he say that he's
became a believer, borning and believer after getting married. I
didn't say, well, okay, well, I was just going to say, y'all,
y'all summed it up. But I was going to say
that God doesn't make any mistakes. This is part of
(34:28):
his plan, you know the fact that he is and
she isn't yet he doesn't make any mistakes. Just keep
trusting and praying. Yeah, that's good. Absolutely, don't use church
as a crutch. Also, on a side note, people do
that with their kids. Yeah, Like you're not teaching your
kid the Bible because that's what they're doing church Sunday school.
(34:48):
That's Sunday School's job, right or children's another danger. Yeah,
we got another question. Kenny says, Hello, grand Jo, I'm
seventeen year old from Houston now from Houston now in Arizona.
I know this sounds weird coming from a teenager, especially
a guy, but I want a wife and children so much.
It is something I often cry over when I'm talking
with the Lord, and I don't know why it is
(35:10):
and why this is something I feel so strongly about.
I know it's good to be a teenager, but I
wish I was older and had a family. How do
I wait? How do I prepare myself? I love the
Lord and all that you do. Thanks bold.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
When you're young, you want to be older. When you're old,
you want to be young.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I want to be older.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Contentment, Yeah, that's a lack of contentment. It's a contentment problem.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Although I Kenny, I understand all of us say things
like that, but we hear you and been there.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And the mom says that those who wait for the
Lord shall renew their strength. They shall mount up with
wings like eagles, wait for the Lord. How do you
do that? What do you do while you're waiting?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'll say seven, I'm sorry, no, no, no, good at seventeen to
have that desire rather than some of the things you
can have at seventeen, like it's good like it's the
right track. It's like a horse, you know, with a bridle.
It's this thing can just run and go wherever. With
a bride's that power is restrained and directed.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Very mature for a seventeen year old.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, yeah, at least that thought process for sure. So
that part of it is not bad. Wanting a family
and wanting a wife and wanting you know, that's great
at seventeen, but for it to consume your life, you know,
I don't know, that's it's unbridled at the moment.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, wait patiently for the Lord. Yeah, I don't. I
don't know. I respect that. I think that's awesome. But
when you're seventeen, I'm assuming he's in high school. I'm
assuming he doesn't have it's not in college. And it's like, yeah,
you need to be focused on focusing on Jesus, but
focus on it yourself right now. Like I'm only saying
(37:03):
that just based on my personal experience and then also
based on watching Lincoln grow up. It's like, man, there's
so many things you need to be focused on besides
girls right now, because the chances of you marrying whoever
you're with at seventeen are very slim, I know that
there's stories of that happening, but don't waste your time.
(37:24):
I think to that point that there's a danger here
with Kenny, because if that's this is as as crazy
as it is for him that he's even writing an
email to this podcast. I want a wife, I cry
over this, he says, So I would be careful that
this is not revealing a deeper problem of discontentment that
(37:46):
could be satisfied wrongly by the first girl that comes
in the door.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, very true.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Here she is. I got this is my wife. No
more crying for me.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I was praying, and look who showed up.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Look who showed up? Thank you Lord. And the problems. Yes, yes,
because you're not You're you aren't seeking Christ first. You're
seeking the idol of a wife first. And it could
easily may may not be I'm not accu accusing you
of that, but it may be the beginning seeds of
what could easily become an idol if it's just the
(38:18):
idea of a wife, or even worse, an actual girl
that comes in and she actually becomes the idol, and
then you're worshiping her. You're trying to do everything you
can to please her. And to satisfy her because not
not because you're actually selflessly serving her, but because that's
that's what's fulfilling you. Is her in your life?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah? Yeah, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
So wait for the Lord. Not a girl, you know,
he said, how do I wait? Don't wait for her?
Wait for the Lord.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah. Oh that's a great point.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And surround yourself with other guys. You know, but planterlf
in a situation. You can't do this alone, Kenny, So
be in a circle of other godly men like Daniel
in the first chapter of Daniel. Go read the first
chapter of Daniel and see how he was not. Daniel
didn't do it alone. He couldn't do it alone. He
had three friends. They were godly friends, did eat. They
(39:19):
were necessary for him and his time as exile and
Babylon to face to stand and face the king as
a as a man. About your age, Kenny?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, you ready to go do this live?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah? Where are we going first?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Hopefully? Hopefully we can talk about that next week.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Okay, taking the podcast live?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, of where we'll be headed to?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, maybe Kenny will show.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Up, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, come on, Kenny, where is he from? Arizona. Oh yeah,
just a chance. Yeah, there's a chance.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We've been looking at Arizona.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Phoenix has always been a good market for it. Different,
different now, but true. All right, that's true. Appreciate you guys,
Thank you all, ye.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
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