February 11, 2025 • 50 mins
Zoë Chao (The Afterparty, Creature Commandos) listens in as Arturo spins a seafaring yarn of death defying escapes from Violet Jessop, aka Miss Unsinkable.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is as great as Escapes, a show bringing you
the wildest true escape stories of all time. In this episode,
we set sale into the story of Miss Unsinkable and
it brings us up close and personal with an infamous
historic disaster. And yes, I am talking about my former relationship.
I'm Arthur Castro, and I'm joined by the incredible writer
(00:22):
and actress for stage and screen, Zowe Chow. Hello, everybody.
(00:57):
I am so excited to have with us the incredibly talented,
very funny and all around good person and also Hawaii connoisseur.
Zoe is how aloha? That's about the two things that
you know about Hawaii? Correct?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yep, Aloha and aloha.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Wow. In the way you say it, I can tell
the difference.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
She's bilingual.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I know. Hey, Zoe, thank you so much for being
with us. I'm long time I did. Do you have
anything that you consider greatest escape?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
This is not an escape, but I remember being stuck
at the movie theater with some friends and we were
waiting to be picked up, and I was like, let's
call people and say we're from Jenny Craig.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I This was nineteen ninety four, where Jenny Craig
was all the rage.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, all right, although is she maybe? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So I called my dad, I think from a pay phone,
and I said I left a message, and I think
he was so confused he got really when he finally
figured out it was me, he was I would say,
disproportionately angry because I think it took him a while
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to figure it out. But I was like, don't be
late to pick me up.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Then, right, And he's like, well, now you have to
walk home and you're still waiting at the movie theater
as we speak.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I am.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Don't you feel that Like in the nineties or whatever,
like people were just like way more willing to stay
on the phone to figure out what the fuck was up?
You know what I say, Like right now, if you
get called, I was like, this is Jenny greg You're like,
all right, fuck you, like whatever. Back in the day,
it's like, tell me more, how do how do you
know about me? What?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
He tried to write down the number over and over
again that I had left to be like call us back.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah. You know. The last thing I'll say about telephones
in the nineties or like early two thousands or whatever,
is that my kids when I have if I ever
do we'll never know the fear it was to call
a person you liked to ask to speak to them,
to ge and Watemala like dads were so like kind
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of cliche, asked how fucking mean? They were like they
would like literally, like you know, and Spanish is such
a much more flourishy language when you when you're trying
to be polite, right, you're like like, hello, I don't
mean to bother you in this finny evening by bah,
you know that sort of shit, And and you'd like
call at like five thirty pm and you'd be like hello, Hello, Yeah,
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who the fuck is this? You know? And oh, yeah,
sir sir, but the pardon a pleasure? You're quite sir,
how are they?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, ye Yonder is I a daughter of this? And
he's like, I remember this was a classic line. They
were like it's pretty late to be calling, isn't it.
And you're like, well, it's fucking five thirty pm or whatever,
you know. So you go through this fucking like, you know,
like this mote of angry father theom and then you
like get on the phone with a girl and be
like Hi, Hi, what do you what do you do? Nothing? Oh,
(04:00):
that's cool.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know it's for dinner.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Anyway. I have this like little device on my neck
that I get electro shocked when I'm not being entertaining
for my overlords, over nations. That's my fault. Probably I
thought that wasn't working. I'm glad to hear it's getting through.
It is, it is, it is, Carl, Thank you so
much I felt that. So let's get ready to actually escape. Okay, Zoe,
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Today we have not one, not two, but three harrowing
death defying escapes, and all by one woman. Yeah, and
so to start her story, we go back all the
way to the eighteen nineties where telephone payphone still existed,
where we meet her as a little girl named Violet
jessup Right. She would spend her days standing at the
seaside watching big ships sail into the port of Bayeavlanka
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and Argentina.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
As one does.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, who hasn't been to write a poem? So Violet
Stad worked for the port authority there, so when a
ship came in and sailors would stop by her family's
house and bring presents, bribes, presents, and she remembered tins
of marmalades and boxes of chocolates brought to her from
far away places, and the day that her little brother
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was born, sailors gathered to sing Irish songs. Do you
know any Irish sea shanties?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh me, lad, No, but I saw Ben.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
She's a Venish. She is that Scott. That's Irish that
we You know, we actually have an Irish song expert
on our team. This is no joke, Carl, Carl Nolas,
one of our main producers, is actually what are you
an expert in Irish folk songs? Is something like that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I performed for a long time in a band called
Sea Song Freedom Song.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Can you give us a little taste? Can you give
us a little taste?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Let's do a here we go two three? What do
you do with a drunken sailor? What do you do
with a drunken sailor? What do you do with a
drunken swiler in the morning?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
To be honest, thank you, Carl. That was awesome, But
I would have expected something a little late, less mainstream.
That's okay. You know we all knew that song, just
like you have a long episode. Let's think of any one, Okay.
So you see, Violet's family was far from home. Right.
I always thought it was weird that this was a
girl in Argentina named Violet Jessup. But they were Irish,
you know, and they were living in Argentina. So they
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loved drinking heavily and gesturing wildly around them. You know,
that's what Argentinas do. They're just like I can do it.
So sorry to Argentina family.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Hit meat.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Steak. Do you like steak so? Which is Spanish for
I have steak, tango steak. So. When Violet's father died,
her mom decided to seal them back across the Atlantic
to raise them in London. So Violet's first trip across
the Atlantic was a pretty fucking terrible one, right, So
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she spent a lot of the time sick. Plus the
ship was carrying cattle below well what they usually call illness.
It's all sort of things, right. She had the humors,
She had the humors. The ship was carrying this cattle
below the decks, and Violet mostly remember watching the sailors
throw dead cow carcasses overboard as they died. Oh god,
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so such an unfortunate sound effect. How do you do
on boats? Are you good on boats? Have you ever
had a sea no, no.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
If you if one can feel seasick on a boat,
I'm going to be feeling seasick.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I have a big scar.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
On my knee, my right knee from going scuba diving
and getting really sick when I came up from my
first swim and then sliced my knee vomiting out the boat.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yes, I remember that story. The Bahamas is still talking
about it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I puked and then all the Swedish people puked.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They're like, yeah, I don't like this and this does
not feel good. Tuck. So back to Violet.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Sure, sure, Jessup missed Jessup.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So Violet's first trip should have been a no omen
of what was coming for her, but she didn't really
take it that way right, And there was one magical
part of the journey.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Violet says that for the first time she saw a
swarm of flying fish skimming over the ocean, and that's
really cool. I don't know if you've ever seen something,
but it's like, I haven't, but I've heard.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But a YouTube.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah for YouTube. It. So when they reached London, relatives
took them in. You know, Violet was sixteen and the
oldest of the kids. So she helped raise the others
while their mother worked. Right, she took a job as
a stewardess for the biggest shipping company in the world,
the Royal main Line, and they sponsored this show, so
I have to say that their name like Royal main Line.
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But five years later, though, Violet's mom got sick, too
sick to go to sea, so Violet decided to step
up and she took her mother's place. There was one problem, though, Zoe,
you want me to tell you about it? Yeah, they
said that Violent was too young and too pretty to
work as a royal male stewardess. Like what the fuck
is that about? Like what are you supposed like, what
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are you supposed to whatever? To me? I mean, I
was gonna say, like every day I am too hot
to do a job. You know what I'm saying? What
are you supposed to do if you're too hot? An
Irish person in nineteenth century? Like, imagine that?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Also, what does that look like? What is too hot
at the turn of the century.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Looks like her ankles were gleaming. They were gleaming, glistening
in the sun, gleaming ankles cleaning. You know, I guess
this is not Victorian age. But I just always imagine
people getting really wrapped up for like bare ankles. But
Violet was the determined, right so she One account says
that she made herself more plain for interviews by wearing
her worst clothes, and eventually she succeeded. She was beginning
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to I imagine her talking to her friends like, yeah,
I'm just like I just can't make myself look ugly like.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
These, I look less snatched.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I love the word snatch. Thank you crazy. If
you ever had a job that you wanted so badly
that you would have done anything or said anything.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To get it, yeah, I mean when I first moved
to La I took a fake resume and my real
headshot and hit the sunset strip, went to Cabo Cantina,
was like can I work here? And They're like no,
And then I somehow wound up at Chateau Marmont at Barmarmont, right,
and like lied my way into a job there that
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I worked for four and a half years. No, we
had to wear like silk red chiapows with frog buttons.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
They're like I did.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Bellboy stuff for not even close.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
But this was a This was like a dress that
had like opium den vies to Barbarmont and so he
had to wear thigh highs and garter belt.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Whoa. So back to Violet. So let's talk about our
girl Violet. Violet set sail in nineteen oh eight. She
was twenty one years old and the breadwinner form and
working for the Royal Mainline. She was about to see
the world. She was a lucky, plucky savvy heard the
working Irish lass. So she did alright working on the ocean.
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That's the last time I'm going to do an Irish axon.
I apologize to all my Irish friends, of which I
have none. But her first journeys took her to Panama
and Jamaica and New York and she loved every single
second of it. For instance, when she was in Panama,
she says it was the first time that she had
food and wine as good as her childhood memories of Argentina.
It reassured her that she had made the right choice
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and she would have a life at sea. There was
no way that she could have known what stormy waters
lay ahead. So violate okay, oh we're transported. Violent word
is a stewardess doing cabin service. She was cleaning rooms
and making beds, and delivering meals, running errands, and even
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taking care of seak passengers. She started in second class,
but soon she was reassigned to work in the first
class cabins. So, yeah, go off cavin, queen, I apologize
to everybody. Was that written? No, no, none of this
is right now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
No off cabin, queen.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's the title of my memoir. So Kevin's Service Steward
has typically had a dozen rooms out there to care,
which doesn't sound too bad at first glance, but the
work was in violence words, soul grinding.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Twelve rooms.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's too many, really, Yeah, to to wait on twelve
rooms because like the rooms are massive, and it could
be like waiting on entire families, that's right. I just
guess at first clients, I was like, I figured that
the second class cabin would be like kind of the
thirty rooms, and now you have twelve rooms.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
But right, I think twelve rooms is a lot. Have
you ever done work twelve tables? I guess it was
a terrible. I was a waiter for about two weeks
and I was pretty terrible at it. Not because I
mean I got great tips and shit, but I kept
forgetting orders, because you couldn't punch in the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You had to like run into the kitchen and yell
ordering fu blah blah blah blahlah blah blah, and then
like hang the little piece. So I keep sucking up
people's orders and gave everybody a free salad, you know,
because I was like, I'm sorry, he's a free salad.
And then my manager yelled at me once and I
was like, you know what, fuck this, Like I'm broke
as shit, but I can't. I'm just too clumsy for this.
So so yes, I have waited till twelve tables, and
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I fucking sucked at it. Okay, thank you for bringing
up So Violet seems like she especially hated working for
American passengers who had, she said, a streak of selfishness.
They were like Karens of the Sea, you know, or
Seafaring Sea Karens. So I wrote that one. It's terrible.
Thank you, thank you so much. English has my second language, everybody,
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so please take note. So she remember, once said an
American passenger demanded that Violet bring her a lamb cutlet
and fresh green peas for a Pecanese dog. She commanded
that the peace should be freshly picked and finally mashed like,
oh oh good. So rich people have been terrible for
like fucking forever.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Ye, well, this is the hottest steak I have in life.
Dogs are constantly being treated better than I am being treated.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, if you're like walking in the same path as
like fucking little shits or whatever, and the and the
owner's like, no, no, Caroline doesn't like that. Caroline doesn't
like that. She does. I'm like, lady, what the fuck?
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I'm fine, Just like treat me as well as your.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Dog, that's it. Yeah, freshly picked feet. Also, like, how
are you gonna get freshly picked peas on fucking on
an ocean? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, yourself, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Lading. So the hell job got even worse when the
captain of a ship she worked on made it pass
at her right. So so when Violet refused him, he
reported her to the company for flirting with his officers
he fucking believed, so she was dismissed from the Royal
La main line.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They blamed her.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean, it's such a cliche, isn't it. Men
in power have always been such cartoons of themselves, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so we so if they were alive, we would fucking
cancel them just but friend, that's right, I still need
names and addresses so we can cancel their kin. So
in nineteen ten, Violet was back in England and once
again she was looking for work. Right, but now she
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started applying to a company that was shipping between England
and America, the White Star Line. Right, so the North
Atlantic was notoriously rough, and the number of Americans traveling
under her care would be even higher. She's like, I
don't like these Americans, and we're like, we got a
name fame. So Violet applied, almost hoping that she would
get rejected. But the White Star Line was working hard
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to hire a massive cruise as they launched the largest
passenger ship ever built. Do you know where this is going? Titanic?
There you go? So the White star Line, yea, back
to the Titanic. All goes back to nineteen ninety eight,
which was a great year for cinema, or nineteen eighty
six brandther the fuck it was. So the White Star
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Line launched the Olympic in June nineteen eleven, and Violet
was selected for the hand picked crew and was incredible,
but the passengers were about the same shitty as ever.
But Violet says that as soon as they were bored,
there were There was a wealthy woman who started listing
off her various demands. For example, she she started giving
Violet orders about how to help her out when she
was going to the bathroom. Gross, what what does this mean?
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Help with the going into the bathroom, like holding hands,
lifting up the skirt. Maybe you know what, Maybe you're right,
maybe it was really hard to get in and out.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Of the garments. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Man. So to make sure that Violet would obey her orders,
this lady that wanted help going to the bathroom, she
said that she was friends with the president of the
White Starling, and obviously Violet was supposed to be sympathetic
and agree to all this stuff. But have you ever
been in a situation where somebody's throwing their cloud around,
like how do you How would you respond? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I mean I worked up Armama.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Someone right asked me if I would make them a
mango smoothie, and I said, ma'am, it's.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Two am in the morning. Yeah, there's the top.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
We don't we have mangos and we don't have a
smoothie maker, or and we don't have yogurt, and we
don't She was like, but it's my birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I was like, but we still don't have yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah. So apparently, like Violet said that, every other passenger
would say the same thing, that the president was their friend.
Apparently he was very popular, go off friendship King, so
at least he had friends, you know, until September nineteen eleven.
When the Olympic was leaving Southampton on September nineteen, did
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you say nineteen eleven?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Oh sorry, okay, yes, my birthday September nineteen.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It was your birthday. For some coincidence, I think not.
When the Olympic was leaving Southampton on its fifth trip
to New York, it was carrying over a thousand passengers
and Violet was on board, and it's a ship steen
out towards sea. It had to pass to a channel
around the Isle of Wight, which is actually where my
trainer is from. True story. He's from the Yellow White,
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which incidentally, he's very very white, you know, So it's
like me being from like the Peninsula of Brown, you
know what I mean? I just say, okay, but I
digress it back to the story, I guess, so let's
put some ominous music. A Spileace ship was leaving on
its journey. An English naval cruiser named the Hawk was
speeding through the channel at the same time. When the
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Hawk tried to turn and avoid the Olympic, It's steering jammed.
It couldn't change the course and avoid the passenger ship,
so the Hawk rammed into the star Wars side of
the Olympic. That's right, that's the right side for us landlovers.
Give me a pirate sound, thank you, Yeah, go ahead
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mine as I arah. My pirate was really feeling himself,
so miraculously, no pirates, fucking not no pirates, no passengers, sorry,
but also no pirates. We're in the rooms on that
part of the ship at that time, so one crew
member was there though, so he was working to fire
the steam engines when suddenly the ram on the front
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of the Navy cruisers smashed through the bulkhead and through
the room, so water rushed in. Imagine being that dude,
like you're going about your words, just getting the boys started,
and suddenly the room splits in the half that you know,
stressful and then when like when you tell, like if
what if? Like when you tell everybody nobody believes you, like, bro,
I swear good guy. It was like fucking this high, bro.
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Yeah yeah, okay, Bob, let's let's send you down, buddy.
You're drugging.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Is that work?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah? Yeah, go back. So the man pulled the emergency
lever to slam shut the water tight doors, and the
rest of the crew rushed to seal up the other
cabins that were split open. So he's a hero. He
is a hero. Apparently the Olympic was so big that
it sent the navy cruisers spinning away like a top.
And some people that's a top sound, by the way,
and they didn't know what that. Oh that's you without
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you making it. Oh my god, that was mimicking. I
know yours was more like a top actually, So ben Chug,
you're getting replaced, buddy. We need to stay it up.
Some of the people on board didn't even feel the crash,
that's how big the ship was. Wow. So the Olympic
was able to turn around and sail back to port,
canceling the voyage, but without a single injury. I'm sure
that there was at least one seafaring carry and being
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like I got a whiplash. I felt it. I actually
did feel it, So yeah my spine, guys, I need
help with the bathroom lady. Fuck off. The Olympic was
badly damaged, so it limped back to port. Violet obviously
survived the wreck along with everyone else on board, and
it was to be her first escape from a disaster
at sea. The problem was the damage was so massive
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that she was going to be out of work while
it took months to repair the ship. Luckily, the White
Star Line had a new ship that was ready to
launch the next year, and this one say it with
me now, was unsinkable. They wanted experienced crew members because
the new one was built like the Olympic, only bigger.
So the company made the Violet a stewardess on and
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you know the ship Zoe the Titanic. So ifvi ilead
jests sail out on the Titanic in nineteen twelve, again
not your birthday. There were fluttering flags and handkerchiefs when
the Titanic slipped away from Doc and the tugboats were
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tooting farewell and all that stuff. Right, yeah, woo, that's right.
Shooting yeah, tooting. I love, that's what tugboats do. It's
so cute, Like I'm so the journey was It's apparently
a train in my mind. So the journey was supposed
to be a simple one, right. The ship would leave
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from the port in England and make a quick little
pitstop in Ireland and then puff merrily crossed the Atlantic
to New York. In fact, the Titanic almost had its
own collision with another passenger ship as it launched. When
they escaped with only a near miss, the crew thought
that they had avoided the misfortune for the journey. They
were wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Little did I know.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
The one thing that Violet that realized by this point
was that she was uneasy on big ships, you know,
becauseaid the Olympic and all that. What would have happened
if she followed her intuition? Was there ever a time
where you ignored the signs and kept doing something that
was doomed to fail? Ever?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I mean every day, my whole life, my memoir doomed
to fail.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
What about your relationship? I had in like my high
school years. I was like, this is you look like
you're gonna hurt me. Let's do this red flex. I
didn't fix this. So once the ship was underway, it
was just as luxurious as you might think, right, at
least for the wealthiest of passengers. It was the world's
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largest ocean liner, and it was kind of like the Olympic,
but if this time they pulled out literally all the stops, right,
Violet called it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Keep That means, by the way, sorry, pulling out.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
All the stops. No, I don't do you know that,
Merchand no you don't.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's pulling out all the stops in an organ.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
In an organ, isn't it a playing organ? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, So they're like the keys, they are the they're
like the floor pedals, and then there are these stops,
and I think when you.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Pull them all out, it just makes a massive amount
of sound.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I see what you're saying, going off.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Piece here, yea my specialty. But so is so correct,
Thank you God.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
They pulled out all the stops, which, Zoe, did you
know that that's in reference to an organ. That's the
only thing that's.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I called it grander in every way, or like extremely baller.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
It was literally supposed to be a floating Chateau Marmont.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Oh, I don't think I would farewell on a big,
big boat, like trapped for weeks.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'm gonna be honest with you, The big big cruises
kind of freak me out because you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, and also you're stuck with people you did not
choose exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That's what I'm saying, Like it's a hotel that you
cannot like you just can't take a break for I
guess you can go to port and whatever. But it's
just like the activities of all I've grown up going
to all inclusive hotels up until like my teenage years.
God bless my family. That's so lovely that you did
that for us. We're bawling on a budget, but my god,
it gives you such crippling anxiety, like having to like
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fight over like the buffet with like Bob from fucking Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
From Florida needs what top Hispanic and you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, And I'm like, I don't fucking know, Bob.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And that's how I met my girl. God, yeah, you
was so caught of brown Angel and that's how I
met my second husband. So cruises freaked me out. But
for the Titanic, it was all like beautiful mahogany furniture
and baroque molding and scull through o'clocks and young whipper
snappers coming up from steerage to woo society. Girl's named
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Rose stuff like that, you know. And after all that,
they after all they had John Jacob Astro on board,
and he was the wealthiest man in the world at
the time, and he brought along, oh so sweet, his
nineteen year old wife. You fucking creep. So the ballrooms
and dining rooms, it's so stupid to know that, like
throughout history, we made such society, has made such loopholes
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for rich men. You know, it stops today with this podcast.
It stops today.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I knew it was an important move to do this podcast.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
The bottoms and dining rooms and everything were supposed to
be at the height of luxury. The biggest problem for
Violet was that she wasn't there to enjoy the luxury, right,
She was the one providing the luxury, and she was
running between the private rooms, arranging lace bed spreads, running
to the kitchen to carve meat and serve food, running
to help the wealthy passengers go to the bathroom, you know,
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all this stuff. So basically there's just a lot of running, right,
and then came the night. They were in the middle
of the journey and Violet was lying awake when suddenly
she heard a low, crunching, ripping sound, and the whole
ship shivered under her. The strangest part, though, was that
when the engines quit suddenly everything was quiet for only
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a minute, though, but then Violets started to hear low
voices in the passage way outside, you know, a lot
of frantic footsteps passing the door, violently, still hoping that
she was wrong about what was happening, just hoping against logic,
you know. But the crash had woken up the stewardess
who shared Violet's room, and she said, sounds like something
bad has happened. The two of them realized that they
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now had to assist the passengers, to which the entire
world replied, no fucking shit, buddy, you.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Know, oh they did it, you know, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So the two of them realized that they had a
responsibility to manage the passengers. They were still pulling their
clothes on when another stewards knocked under door. They opened
it and he said, have you heard the ship is sinking?
Can you imagine the fucking feeling?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean to be on a sinking ship.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, no, sorry, think you're going.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Amore, Just like the amount of times you use that
as a say, you know, actually.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
One at least one person yelling we're in a metaphor, right, No,
but imagine the panic knowing that there's just nothing you
can fucking do, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And it's like that long it was.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I imagine time was really weird. Get like sped up
but also slowed down and.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, so there is a sense of urgency, right
like a Violet rushed to her passengers and she started
helping children strap on life jackets. But suddenly the order
came down. Everybody to the lifeboats. Right. Most of the
people in violet section have been asleep, and they fumbled
with their valuable struggle to put on thick coats before
Violet let them up the gangways. Before the stewardess could
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go back for their things, they had to make sure
that every guest from their section had evacuated. Violet had
her own panic moment digging through her wardrobe when she
realized that she didn't bring a coat. You know, it's
going to be a bone chilling cold once you're off
that ship, right, what would you do? If you don't
have a coat. Oh my god, I mean, ah, that's
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what I thought.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Would you do?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I mean I would I would ask if someone had
an extra coat.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Excuse me a second.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Sorry, Yeah, I know you guys are all in survival mode,
but like, what's some hmm, yeah, this is not really
my color?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Size medium.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I don't know what the fuck I would have done.
I probably would have panicked and been like, I just
want to dance, you know. And Violet was more resourceful
than either of us. She grabbed the silk bed cover
on her way back to the lifeboats.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And one of the most super surreal details that she
remembered was that she passed a group of officers who
were still in their dress uniforms with their hands in
their pockets, just kind of chatting quietly, and they smiled
at her as she went by. So weird, like you
don't never know how panic is going to strike you, right.
She also passed some of the pantry boys who were
trying to carry a huge load of bread. They tripped
on something hard and everybody looked down to realize that
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it was a suitcase that it burst open filled with
gold coins. Oh got it? So by the time Violet
got to the boats, the arguments had already started, like
who would get left behind to go down with a ship,
and who would be allowed to board one of the
remaining lifeboats and live. Violet watched as John Jacob asked her,
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handed his wife into a boat and waved through goodbye.
Then with a roar, white distress, rockets were fired up
into the sky. Families arrived at the lifeboats together, and
then they cried as they split up. The women climbed
onto the boats and the men faded back into a
growing crowd. Some guys nearby started throwing things over the side,
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like wooden chairs and anything that would float. They were
hoping that there would be things to hold onto in
the water when the lifeboats were gone. And then someone
grabbed Violet's arm. It was a deck officer who was
filling the lifeboat. It was Violet's turn. Violet. Another steward
is clambered on top of the side of the boat,
and the officer held something up towards Violet and said,
look after this. And so when Violet reached down and
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he tossed it to her, and she made the catch.
It was somebody's baby. It was a freaking baby.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
My gosh, yeah to a story.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
How desperate do you have to feel. Imagine how desperate
you have to feel to be like give somebody your baby?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, totally, Oh my god, we're joking, but this is
so harrowing.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I know. So so then the LFE boat dropped and
it was such a long way down, and the lights
of the decks like flashed past them, and then they
hit the water right finally, remember that the impact was
bone cracking, and the baby started to scream. A few
members of the crew were in the boats had the
oars and they started to pull right. The lifeboat moved
into the darkness, away from the Titanic, but it was
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the Titanic was still things so badly now. One of
the men rowing the boat had come from the firing
rooms and violets said that his face was still blackened
by cold dust and his eyes were super bloodshot. He
was only wearing his thin shirt from the engine room,
and there was nothing to protect them from the cold.
Everyone of the lfeboat watched the lights of the Titanic
go out. There were six rows of deck lights, than five,
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then four, then three, then the split in half and
it started going down now. Violet, a good Catholic, closed
her eyes and she prayed for the rest of the night.
It was mostly the extreme cold, the Violet remembered. She
wrapped the silk oiled around the baby and worried that
it's crying was getting weaker and quieter. But don't worry, okay,
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I was just gonna spoil it for you. The baby survived,
so don't forget. The water was chopping around them, and
the boat was thrown between the waves, and Violet was
ferociously determined that the baby was not going to die
in her arms. As the sun came up, the survivors
in the lifeboil were able to see tons of ice
mountains floating around them. How crazy is that sight?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's nuts, so nuts.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And finally, in the light of day, they also spotted
a speck in the horizon. It was the ocean liner Karpathia.
They had received the Titanic's distress called the night before,
and they had arrived in time to pick up the lifeboats.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's also I mean, I know they're not we can't
consider them lucky because of the sinking Titanic, but what
a blessing that it only took them a.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Night, you know, yeah, truly, truly.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Also something I thought I have thought about whenever I
think about the Titanic, which is kind often quite often, yeah,
is when the boat went in the pull of the yeah,
the water and just trying to clear the it's that that.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
And also just like the sound that I like both too,
must make right.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Gotten into three car accidents. That's why I don't live
in LA anymore. Total three cars in five years.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Thank god, you're okay, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Two of the cars were pet cruisers and one was
a rental car on the way to pick up the
second PT cruiser.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Well, just because it was a life threatening car crash,
I will make no comment. But no than in any
of the circumstances, I would just have so many questions.
But go on.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But the reason I bring this up is I can
conjure the sound of a car crash so easily.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
The stick, the well, the crinkling. Oh and the smell.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh my god, it smells like burn to burn, rubber burnt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, it's it's very it's singular, like I I God,
if you smell that smell not good.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Back to Violet, back to Violet and just so Alredie
just knows, like we understand the tragedy of the Titanic.
It's just like there is I don't know about Uzoe,
but whenever I get nervous or there's anything tragic, I
have to like find some lightness around it, because otherwise
it's just too dark, you know. Yeah, So I left
at funerals, is what I'm saying. So hire me as
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a stand up comedian for your funeral. Come to my funeral.
Please come to my funeral. So the men in Violet's
vote pulled hard on the yours, and they were the
last to reach the rescue ship. When Violet and the
others climbed out to the deck, the first thing that
they were given was a glass of brandy. I mean,
to be honest, that sounds pretty fantastic. Like what, I
don't know, what would you want? It's your first thing
after being rescued. Hmmm, kanji kanji? What's conch kanji is?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
It's it's like a kind of a warm rice porridge.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Fuck yeah, I would want some college. I would like
a soluble? Am I just being weird? Like I was
just like, no, I don't know, but maybe that's I
don't know, but also nutritious and dele warm, like I
want superfood and I want to remain true to I
want to remain true to my fitness goals, is what
I want. So Violet was standing on the deck feeling
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days when suddenly a woman rushed up and grabbed the
baby out of her arms. She turned and ran away
into the crowd. We can only speculate and hope to
God that that was the baby's mom, right, because I
don't know, that was definitely the baby's mom, right, Please? Yeah, please,
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So the Titanic was the deadliest sinking of a ship
in history up to that point. By the time it
was over, sixty percent of the first class passenger survived.
Fuck in the se in class, less than half managed
to make it. Overall, thirteen hundred people died. Seven hundred
of those were third class passengers. So fucking unfair. And
you might think that the escaping of the record the
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Titanic and living to tell the tale would be enough
to keep Violet Jessa from ever going to see again.
But that's wrong. No, No, it's an abusive it's like
a terrible relationship. It's a red flag. She just can't.
She's gonna fix it, ye, viol Wood Banks ocean. Yeah,
I'm going to fix the ocean, you guys. That is
the confidence. Yeah, I love that confidence. She even said
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that she knew that she had to go back right
away otherwise she would lose her nerve, and to be honest,
fair enough, that makes sense to me. So just two
weeks after she was finished giving her testimony about the wreck,
she was back at it again. Well like, if you
literally just survived the wreck of the Olympic Escape number
one and then the Titanic escape, are you going back
to sea or.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Are you finally I'm taking two years at least.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go to Long
Island and just on the ground it all good time,
and look up at the stars and that's just going
to be my job. What's even crazier, though, is that
in nineteen sixteen, for your birthday, she even had the gun.
She even had the guts to join the crew of
the third replica model of the White star Line fleet,
the Britannic. Can you believe she's just like, no, no, no,
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I'm going to get this right. She's the thing hard Yeah, well,
the thing was basically no one in the world knew
how to cruly ships like Violet did. Plus, the Britannic
was commissioned as a wartime hospital ship because, of course,
nineteen sixteen was in the middle of World War One,
so Violet felt her own kind of patriotic duty to
serve in the war, and that meant overcoming her fears
and going back to sea to serve as a Red
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Cross nurse. On the latest copy of The Titanic, She's
a fucking badass.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
She really is so brave.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
So when they went to see in nineteen sixteen, the
crew of the hospital ship didn't realize how extremely dangerous
their job was, and that brings us to escape number three.
So in November that year, the Britannic was cruising the
Agency to pick up a load of wounded soldiers. Violet
was sitting down to breakfast with a crew. She says
that she had a hot pot of tea in one
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hand and some butter in the other, when suddenly an
explosion rocked the ship. That is a very tiny explosure.
That was explosion rocked the ship. But to be honest,
it was such a tiny little explosion that they were
all fine in the quo. Just imagine she was like,
excuse me, yeah, sorry, yeah, but part of me, the
butter helps with my guys. I just imagine Violet being like,
you gotta be fucking kidding me, like again, truly tru again. Yeah, yeah,
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the nurses brought today, not today, I'm gonna tame your
fucking sea. Yeah, I can fix it. So the nurses
rushed to gather their life for servers, but Violets started
by helping a few of the others, and while everybody
went to their lifeboats, Violet went back to her cabin.
So you know, this wasn't Violet's first rodeo, so by
now the sense of panic wasn't going to overwhelm her,
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and she was determined to take a few things with her.
She grabbed her ring, a bible, her alarm clock, and
a toothbrush. If your ship's going down, what are the
things that you're gonna grab?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Well, that's a silk duvet, a silk dovey of course.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Oh yeah, she's learned from you, learned from others.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Very well done, I think leave it all.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Why is grabbing a fucking alarm clock? Though? What are
you like? She's like just doothbrush. Yeah, she's like reminding
me to brush my teeth if we're in long enough.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I know, Ring, I guess maybe yeah, special ring.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, she's like, this is my invisibility ring. Violet, you're
reading too much h J R R. Tolken, which is
not the time because Jerr Token was fighting in the
war and I knew that. So Violet said that she
made sure to get the toothbrush because of how much
people made fun of her for not having one after
the Titanic went down. I guess that's what happens to
you when you're mostly surrounded by first class fucking assholes,
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you know.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So they were making they were like nagging her about yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
On the tugboat.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
On the tugboat day, there was a bigger ship, the
Maker ship that rescue them from the right. So this
is what happens, right, You're getting made fun of for
not having toothrush when you're surrounded by assholes, and what
a fucking weird thing to do. But she grabbed the toothbrush,
which is kind of endearing.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Shame, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, So by the time she reached the deck, Violet
was the last one on board, and the officer there
was surprised to see you, or because he thought that
all the nurses had already been loaded into the lifeboats.
What Violet was finally in lifeboats. She remembered that it
dropped so fast that it was smashing lights and bouncing
off the brass rims into portholes as it went down,
and then it finally hit the water so hard that
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it knocked everyone dizzy. I'm just going to suggest that
people start taking courses of how to lower lightboats and
then not like such a greasy way. I'm just like,
if it's me reading the signs, I mean, guys, you know,
save yourselves, of course, but like you don't want to
kill them on the way down. You know, I've seen
Why Loadus season two. You know, getting off of boats
is dangerous. But that still wasn't the worst thing that happened,
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you know, because by now, okay, this is really fucked up.
By now, the front of the ship was dipping down,
and that meant that the huge propeller was now lifting
out of the water. At the back the ship was
still moving forward too, so the propeller was now swinging
forward toward the lifeboats and chopping the water, pulling them
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towards it. No, no, no, that's what you were saying.
So she says that she looked back and saw other
lifeboats and the people in them sucked into the propeller, and,
in her words, minced so violently jumped out of the
lifeboat into the water. She held her breath, she closed
her eyes, and she felt herself get whipped into the
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propeller's spin. Twice, something hard crashed into her head. She
had a life jacket on, but it was too small
to carry her weight. The only thing that actually saved
her was grabbing a second life jacket that went floating by.
Once she was floating on the surface, Violet opened her eyes,
but she says that she closed them again to block
out the site of the ship sinking away. Eventually, she
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opened her eyes in time to see that the Britannic
finally dove into the waves with a stern flying upward
into the air, before the whole ship sank straight down.
One crazy fucking thing here, She says that she never
learned to swim, so you would think, sorry, are you okay?
So let me bive check you're I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Just disturbed by this. This is a bomber. When you
said they were minced. Yeah, did we need to use
that burb?
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Listen? I didn't write her memoir, Okay, I knows now.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It's just so crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I don't know if I would have known to jump
out of the boat.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
My fory is that by the time she she swam
far enough that by the time that the propeller was
even pulling at them, that it was going more vertical.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Also that you're never going to forget fucking seeing people
get absolutely ravaged by It's.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So crazy, like they thought that they were safe.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Too, exactly. And you know when you were talking about
the boats sinking and how that would pull you under, Yeah,
I was also thinking that, But I was like, I'd
never even thought about like a propeller also pulling you
towards it. Like fuck, Like, how many fucking things do
I have to worry about?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Totally?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I also like trying to like catch a wave on
like a you know, like swimming out on a surfboard,
and like I'm always humbled by how much exertion.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
You need to Oh my god, you know how much
energy you need to exert to.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Swim back out to the surfing. It's just like, yeah,
I'm so inove and also surfing is one of those
things that like really makes you respect the sea because like,
no matter how good you are at it, like it's
going to make you feel like a dumbass, you.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Know, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
So she floating on the water until the rescue boats
reached her, and they brought her back to shore on
a Greek island, and Violet learned that they had sailed
into a string of underwater mines dropped by a German
submarine the day before. Somehow, only twenty people were killed
as the ship went down, and most of them were
not killed by a mine. They were actually killed by
the propellers. Violet had a frack skull. I'm sorry to
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do this to you, so, but I just need to
tell you a story. I wish I could change the facts.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I thought the escapes were gonna be like fun.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
You're like, so I escaped like this really weird relationship
in Tabo. No, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
She ractured skull. Do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
She hit probably a piece of the lifeboats, a piece
of the boat really anything, and it hit her twice
right and her leg was cut open to the bone.
So it took her three full years to heal. Now.
Fortunately for her, she had again escaped the White Star
Line with her life. So listen, we're coming to the
end of violet story here. And if you escape three
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second ship, would you ever, like, please let me out
of this? Would you ever travel by sea again? No?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
But this bitch be crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
She's like, like, let me get out back out there.
She's like, she's like, I was close this time. Put
me in coach. When it was finally time to go home,
Violet decided to travel to London by land. Thank god.
So in London, Violet took a job a bank and
for a while she would at least she stopped tempting faate.
Violet published a memoir in the nineteen thirties, when her
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memories of the White Star Line were still fresh now
for a while, though her book didn't really get much attention.
There are people interested in the Titanic, sure, but not
very many of them were paying attention to the story
of a stewardist. They are all about guys like John
Jacob Astor and all the other fancy pants in the
first class people. Oh, one crazy thing. Even after JJ
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died on the Titanic, we're that close that I just
call him JJ. His family kept investing in the White
Star line. His son was collecting stock certificates in nineteen
thirty one, like the company killed him with their terrible
fucking boat, and there was still money to be made.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
People are making crazy decisions, insane.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
The early nineteen hundreds was just fucking nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
It's maybe just the takeaways, like people have been crazy forever.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, And I don't find comfort in that, but I
find comfort in I find a comfort in the fact
that people have been the same throughout history and in
the sense of, like, not to get too deep on this,
but like, my dad died when I was seventeen, and
one of the things that helped me was that my
teacher gave me this the Hamlet monologue to be or
not to be right, And at first it made no
fucking sense to me because it was Greek to me,
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and I'm like, wearing water, Mala, why the fuck are
you giving me like old English books? But then once
I started really paying attention to it, after a brief
moment of mourning, I realized that this guy was talking
about exactly what I was going through right five hundred
years before me, and I found there's a certain sense
of comfort in knowing that the human existence is not
that different, you know, so that I'm not alone in
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this experience. And it was actually, incidentally what made me
take acting seriously and moved to New York and study acting.
Why we have a podcast? Oh my god, there we go.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
That's a very moving story.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
So Violet finally retired in nineteen fifty and moved herself
into a little English college on the east coast of England.
I love that for her. Do you have a retirement
destination in mind? Oh?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Man, I don't know. We've been talking about Ireland so much.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Love.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
So now you're moving til we'll see, Like we'll check
in next week. We're telling you about about the Caribbean.
You're like, yeah, I just always felt like Jamaica was
calling to me. What about like the Caribbean speaking It's
just like calling to me anybody else see it. So
if you survived the death traps made by the White
Star Line enough times, I feel like you deserve a
little seaside cottage. You know, the should just give it
to you. Honestly, the White Star Line should have paid
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for it, you know, and maybe huh they would have,
except they went bankrupt in nineteen thirty four on say
it with me you birthday, that's right. So anyway, Violently
finally gave herself permission to just, you know, just raise
some chickens and put up her feet. And she lived
there for almost twenty years, all the way into her eighties. Oh.
In one little last little tidbit, one day, this is nuts.
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One day, a little while before she died, Violet got
a phone call super late at night. That's the sound
of a phone, in case you didn't know, and Violent
Violet gets out of bad and answers it, and it
was somebody saying they were from Jenny fucking Craig. Just no,
so what are you really?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I was with you?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
So Violet gets out of bed, she answers the phone.
Right she hears the voice of a lady on the
other end of the line who asked if she was
Violet Jessep who had been on the Titanic, and Violin
was like, yes, that was me. Who is this? The
person on the other end of the phone was like,
I am the baby you rescued, oh my, And then
they just hung up and she never called again. Isn't
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that crazy? Is that all? She said, that's all she
said and investing. Yahoo, I guess I don't fucking know.
But isn't that wild?
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, so I guess maybe.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Well I wish that Violet had been like, was the
woman who grabs you out of my arms? Your mom?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah? Who is your mother? What does she look like? Yeah?
And it's this crazy story and I really hope that
it wasn't just somebody crane calling her.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
So the wreck of the Titanic was found on the
ocean floor almost fifteen years after Violet died. The discovery
of the wreck kicked off a new wave of interest
in the ship what it was really like during the voyage,
So that finally brought violet story the attention it deserved.
Her book was published in nineteen eighty seven, and this
time it became one of the defining stories of the
Titanic by including what it was really like for normal
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people working there to survive. And so that's when Violet
finally got her nickname, Miss Unsinkable. Miss Unsinkable, that's sexually
her nickname. Now, anyway, that's our story. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Oh my god, the twists and turns so crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Right, Wow, we're like last one minute and I'm like
fucking like so disturbed, and then I'm also like kind
of hungry, Like just a lot went on. So you're
fucking amazing, dude. And you're in so many different projects
like The after Party Night Bitch and your Voice a
Mermaid scientists are on Creature Commandos. So wow, yeah, listeners,
go find her work asap. I want to go back
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to our producer, call Knillis, because he's had an entire
episode to think about a New Sea shanty or an
Irish song, an Irish song of any kind. So Carl,
do you have something for me? Yes?
Speaker 4 (49:03):
I do, and here we go. Zoey Child was the
Queen of podcast. Zoe Child is the Queen no Podcast.
Zoe Child is the Queen no Podcast. There lying in
the morning. Way hey enops? She rises way, hey enop,
she rises way Hey enough she rises in the morning.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Hey. Thank you, Carl, Thank you everybody. Zoe, thank you
so much for being in this. You were such a
wonderful guest.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
You are such a great storyteller and so fun to
hang out with.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Oh, thanks so much, See you later. Banana A. Bo
Brady's Escapes is a production of iHeartRadio and Film Nation
Entertainment in association with Gilded Audio. Our executive producers from
me or Turo Castro, Alyssa Martino and Milan Popelka from
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Film Nation Entertainment, Andrew Chug and Winning Donaldson from Gilded Audio,
and Dylan Fagan from iHeartRadio. The show was produced and
edited by Carl and Ben Chubb, who are also, respectively,
our research overlord and music overlord. Our associate producer is
Tory Smith, who's our other overlord. Nick Dooley is our
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Alison Cohen, Dan Welsh, Ben Riiseek, Sarah Joyner, Nicki Stein,
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a rating or review. My mom will call you each
personally and thank you, and we'll see you all next week.
This is as great as Escapes, a show bringing you
the wildest true escape stories of all time. In this episode,
we set sale into the story of Miss Unsinkable and
it brings us up close and personal with an infamous
historic disaster. And yes, I am talking about my former relationship.
I'm Arthur Castro, and I'm joined by the incredible writer
(00:22):
and actress for stage and screen, Zowe Chow. Hello, everybody.
(00:57):
I am so excited to have with us the incredibly talented,
very funny and all around good person and also Hawaii connoisseur.
Zoe is how aloha? That's about the two things that
you know about Hawaii? Correct?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yep, Aloha and aloha.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Wow. In the way you say it, I can tell
the difference.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
She's bilingual.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I know. Hey, Zoe, thank you so much for being
with us. I'm long time I did. Do you have
anything that you consider greatest escape?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
This is not an escape, but I remember being stuck
at the movie theater with some friends and we were
waiting to be picked up, and I was like, let's
call people and say we're from Jenny Craig.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I This was nineteen ninety four, where Jenny Craig
was all the rage.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, all right, although is she maybe? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So I called my dad, I think from a pay phone,
and I said I left a message, and I think
he was so confused he got really when he finally
figured out it was me, he was I would say,
disproportionately angry because I think it took him a while
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to figure it out. But I was like, don't be
late to pick me up.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Then, right, And he's like, well, now you have to
walk home and you're still waiting at the movie theater
as we speak.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I am.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Don't you feel that Like in the nineties or whatever,
like people were just like way more willing to stay
on the phone to figure out what the fuck was up?
You know what I say, Like right now, if you
get called, I was like, this is Jenny greg You're like,
all right, fuck you, like whatever. Back in the day,
it's like, tell me more, how do how do you
know about me? What?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
He tried to write down the number over and over
again that I had left to be like call us back.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah. You know. The last thing I'll say about telephones
in the nineties or like early two thousands or whatever,
is that my kids when I have if I ever
do we'll never know the fear it was to call
a person you liked to ask to speak to them,
to ge and Watemala like dads were so like kind
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of cliche, asked how fucking mean? They were like they
would like literally, like you know, and Spanish is such
a much more flourishy language when you when you're trying
to be polite, right, you're like like, hello, I don't
mean to bother you in this finny evening by bah,
you know that sort of shit, And and you'd like
call at like five thirty pm and you'd be like hello, Hello, Yeah,
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who the fuck is this? You know? And oh, yeah,
sir sir, but the pardon a pleasure? You're quite sir,
how are they?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, ye Yonder is I a daughter of this? And
he's like, I remember this was a classic line. They
were like it's pretty late to be calling, isn't it.
And you're like, well, it's fucking five thirty pm or whatever,
you know. So you go through this fucking like, you know,
like this mote of angry father theom and then you
like get on the phone with a girl and be
like Hi, Hi, what do you what do you do? Nothing? Oh,
(04:00):
that's cool.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know it's for dinner.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Anyway. I have this like little device on my neck
that I get electro shocked when I'm not being entertaining
for my overlords, over nations. That's my fault. Probably I
thought that wasn't working. I'm glad to hear it's getting through.
It is, it is, it is, Carl, Thank you so
much I felt that. So let's get ready to actually escape. Okay, Zoe,
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Today we have not one, not two, but three harrowing
death defying escapes, and all by one woman. Yeah, and
so to start her story, we go back all the
way to the eighteen nineties where telephone payphone still existed,
where we meet her as a little girl named Violet
jessup Right. She would spend her days standing at the
seaside watching big ships sail into the port of Bayeavlanka
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and Argentina.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
As one does.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, who hasn't been to write a poem? So Violet
Stad worked for the port authority there, so when a
ship came in and sailors would stop by her family's
house and bring presents, bribes, presents, and she remembered tins
of marmalades and boxes of chocolates brought to her from
far away places, and the day that her little brother
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was born, sailors gathered to sing Irish songs. Do you
know any Irish sea shanties?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh me, lad, No, but I saw Ben.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
She's a Venish. She is that Scott. That's Irish that
we You know, we actually have an Irish song expert
on our team. This is no joke, Carl, Carl Nolas,
one of our main producers, is actually what are you
an expert in Irish folk songs? Is something like that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I performed for a long time in a band called
Sea Song Freedom Song.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Can you give us a little taste? Can you give
us a little taste?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Let's do a here we go two three? What do
you do with a drunken sailor? What do you do
with a drunken sailor? What do you do with a
drunken swiler in the morning?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
To be honest, thank you, Carl. That was awesome, But
I would have expected something a little late, less mainstream.
That's okay. You know we all knew that song, just
like you have a long episode. Let's think of any one, Okay.
So you see, Violet's family was far from home. Right.
I always thought it was weird that this was a
girl in Argentina named Violet Jessup. But they were Irish,
you know, and they were living in Argentina. So they
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loved drinking heavily and gesturing wildly around them. You know,
that's what Argentinas do. They're just like I can do it.
So sorry to Argentina family.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Hit meat.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Steak. Do you like steak so? Which is Spanish for
I have steak, tango steak. So. When Violet's father died,
her mom decided to seal them back across the Atlantic
to raise them in London. So Violet's first trip across
the Atlantic was a pretty fucking terrible one, right, So
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she spent a lot of the time sick. Plus the
ship was carrying cattle below well what they usually call illness.
It's all sort of things, right. She had the humors,
She had the humors. The ship was carrying this cattle
below the decks, and Violet mostly remember watching the sailors
throw dead cow carcasses overboard as they died. Oh god,
(07:19):
so such an unfortunate sound effect. How do you do
on boats? Are you good on boats? Have you ever
had a sea no, no.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
If you if one can feel seasick on a boat,
I'm going to be feeling seasick.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I have a big scar.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
On my knee, my right knee from going scuba diving
and getting really sick when I came up from my
first swim and then sliced my knee vomiting out the boat.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yes, I remember that story. The Bahamas is still talking
about it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I puked and then all the Swedish people puked.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They're like, yeah, I don't like this and this does
not feel good. Tuck. So back to Violet.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Sure, sure, Jessup missed Jessup.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So Violet's first trip should have been a no omen
of what was coming for her, but she didn't really
take it that way right, And there was one magical
part of the journey.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Violet says that for the first time she saw a
swarm of flying fish skimming over the ocean, and that's
really cool. I don't know if you've ever seen something,
but it's like, I haven't, but I've heard.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But a YouTube.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah for YouTube. It. So when they reached London, relatives
took them in. You know, Violet was sixteen and the
oldest of the kids. So she helped raise the others
while their mother worked. Right, she took a job as
a stewardess for the biggest shipping company in the world,
the Royal main Line, and they sponsored this show, so
I have to say that their name like Royal main Line.
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But five years later, though, Violet's mom got sick, too
sick to go to sea, so Violet decided to step
up and she took her mother's place. There was one problem, though, Zoe,
you want me to tell you about it? Yeah, they
said that Violent was too young and too pretty to
work as a royal male stewardess. Like what the fuck
is that about? Like what are you supposed like, what
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are you supposed to whatever? To me? I mean, I
was gonna say, like every day I am too hot
to do a job. You know what I'm saying? What
are you supposed to do if you're too hot? An
Irish person in nineteenth century? Like, imagine that?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Also, what does that look like? What is too hot
at the turn of the century.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Looks like her ankles were gleaming. They were gleaming, glistening
in the sun, gleaming ankles cleaning. You know, I guess
this is not Victorian age. But I just always imagine
people getting really wrapped up for like bare ankles. But
Violet was the determined, right so she One account says
that she made herself more plain for interviews by wearing
her worst clothes, and eventually she succeeded. She was beginning
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to I imagine her talking to her friends like, yeah,
I'm just like I just can't make myself look ugly like.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
These, I look less snatched.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I love the word snatch. Thank you crazy. If
you ever had a job that you wanted so badly
that you would have done anything or said anything.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To get it, yeah, I mean when I first moved
to La I took a fake resume and my real
headshot and hit the sunset strip, went to Cabo Cantina,
was like can I work here? And They're like no,
And then I somehow wound up at Chateau Marmont at Barmarmont, right,
and like lied my way into a job there that
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I worked for four and a half years. No, we
had to wear like silk red chiapows with frog buttons.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
They're like I did.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Bellboy stuff for not even close.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
But this was a This was like a dress that
had like opium den vies to Barbarmont and so he
had to wear thigh highs and garter belt.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Whoa. So back to Violet. So let's talk about our
girl Violet. Violet set sail in nineteen oh eight. She
was twenty one years old and the breadwinner form and
working for the Royal Mainline. She was about to see
the world. She was a lucky, plucky savvy heard the
working Irish lass. So she did alright working on the ocean.
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That's the last time I'm going to do an Irish axon.
I apologize to all my Irish friends, of which I
have none. But her first journeys took her to Panama
and Jamaica and New York and she loved every single
second of it. For instance, when she was in Panama,
she says it was the first time that she had
food and wine as good as her childhood memories of Argentina.
It reassured her that she had made the right choice
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and she would have a life at sea. There was
no way that she could have known what stormy waters
lay ahead. So violate okay, oh we're transported. Violent word
is a stewardess doing cabin service. She was cleaning rooms
and making beds, and delivering meals, running errands, and even
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taking care of seak passengers. She started in second class,
but soon she was reassigned to work in the first
class cabins. So, yeah, go off cavin, queen, I apologize
to everybody. Was that written? No, no, none of this
is right now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
No off cabin, queen.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's the title of my memoir. So Kevin's Service Steward
has typically had a dozen rooms out there to care,
which doesn't sound too bad at first glance, but the
work was in violence words, soul grinding.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Twelve rooms.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's too many, really, Yeah, to to wait on twelve
rooms because like the rooms are massive, and it could
be like waiting on entire families, that's right. I just
guess at first clients, I was like, I figured that
the second class cabin would be like kind of the
thirty rooms, and now you have twelve rooms.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
But right, I think twelve rooms is a lot. Have
you ever done work twelve tables? I guess it was
a terrible. I was a waiter for about two weeks
and I was pretty terrible at it. Not because I
mean I got great tips and shit, but I kept
forgetting orders, because you couldn't punch in the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You had to like run into the kitchen and yell
ordering fu blah blah blah blahlah blah blah, and then
like hang the little piece. So I keep sucking up
people's orders and gave everybody a free salad, you know,
because I was like, I'm sorry, he's a free salad.
And then my manager yelled at me once and I
was like, you know what, fuck this, Like I'm broke
as shit, but I can't. I'm just too clumsy for this.
So so yes, I have waited till twelve tables, and
(13:18):
I fucking sucked at it. Okay, thank you for bringing
up So Violet seems like she especially hated working for
American passengers who had, she said, a streak of selfishness.
They were like Karens of the Sea, you know, or
Seafaring Sea Karens. So I wrote that one. It's terrible.
Thank you, thank you so much. English has my second language, everybody,
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so please take note. So she remember, once said an
American passenger demanded that Violet bring her a lamb cutlet
and fresh green peas for a Pecanese dog. She commanded
that the peace should be freshly picked and finally mashed like,
oh oh good. So rich people have been terrible for
like fucking forever.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Ye, well, this is the hottest steak I have in life.
Dogs are constantly being treated better than I am being treated.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, if you're like walking in the same path as
like fucking little shits or whatever, and the and the
owner's like, no, no, Caroline doesn't like that. Caroline doesn't
like that. She does. I'm like, lady, what the fuck?
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I'm fine, Just like treat me as well as your.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Dog, that's it. Yeah, freshly picked feet. Also, like, how
are you gonna get freshly picked peas on fucking on
an ocean? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, yourself, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Lading. So the hell job got even worse when the
captain of a ship she worked on made it pass
at her right. So so when Violet refused him, he
reported her to the company for flirting with his officers
he fucking believed, so she was dismissed from the Royal
La main line.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They blamed her.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean, it's such a cliche, isn't it. Men
in power have always been such cartoons of themselves, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so we so if they were alive, we would fucking
cancel them just but friend, that's right, I still need
names and addresses so we can cancel their kin. So
in nineteen ten, Violet was back in England and once
again she was looking for work. Right, but now she
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started applying to a company that was shipping between England
and America, the White Star Line. Right, so the North
Atlantic was notoriously rough, and the number of Americans traveling
under her care would be even higher. She's like, I
don't like these Americans, and we're like, we got a
name fame. So Violet applied, almost hoping that she would
get rejected. But the White Star Line was working hard
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to hire a massive cruise as they launched the largest
passenger ship ever built. Do you know where this is going? Titanic?
There you go? So the White star Line, yea, back
to the Titanic. All goes back to nineteen ninety eight,
which was a great year for cinema, or nineteen eighty
six brandther the fuck it was. So the White Star
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Line launched the Olympic in June nineteen eleven, and Violet
was selected for the hand picked crew and was incredible,
but the passengers were about the same shitty as ever.
But Violet says that as soon as they were bored,
there were There was a wealthy woman who started listing
off her various demands. For example, she she started giving
Violet orders about how to help her out when she
was going to the bathroom. Gross, what what does this mean?
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Help with the going into the bathroom, like holding hands,
lifting up the skirt. Maybe you know what, Maybe you're right,
maybe it was really hard to get in and out.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Of the garments. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Man. So to make sure that Violet would obey her orders,
this lady that wanted help going to the bathroom, she
said that she was friends with the president of the
White Starling, and obviously Violet was supposed to be sympathetic
and agree to all this stuff. But have you ever
been in a situation where somebody's throwing their cloud around,
like how do you How would you respond? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I mean I worked up Armama.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Someone right asked me if I would make them a
mango smoothie, and I said, ma'am, it's.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Two am in the morning. Yeah, there's the top.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
We don't we have mangos and we don't have a
smoothie maker, or and we don't have yogurt, and we
don't She was like, but it's my birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I was like, but we still don't have yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah. So apparently, like Violet said that, every other passenger
would say the same thing, that the president was their friend.
Apparently he was very popular, go off friendship King, so
at least he had friends, you know, until September nineteen eleven.
When the Olympic was leaving Southampton on September nineteen, did
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you say nineteen eleven?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Oh sorry, okay, yes, my birthday September nineteen.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It was your birthday. For some coincidence, I think not.
When the Olympic was leaving Southampton on its fifth trip
to New York, it was carrying over a thousand passengers
and Violet was on board, and it's a ship steen
out towards sea. It had to pass to a channel
around the Isle of Wight, which is actually where my
trainer is from. True story. He's from the Yellow White,
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which incidentally, he's very very white, you know, So it's
like me being from like the Peninsula of Brown, you
know what I mean? I just say, okay, but I
digress it back to the story, I guess, so let's
put some ominous music. A Spileace ship was leaving on
its journey. An English naval cruiser named the Hawk was
speeding through the channel at the same time. When the
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Hawk tried to turn and avoid the Olympic, It's steering jammed.
It couldn't change the course and avoid the passenger ship,
so the Hawk rammed into the star Wars side of
the Olympic. That's right, that's the right side for us landlovers.
Give me a pirate sound, thank you, Yeah, go ahead
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mine as I arah. My pirate was really feeling himself,
so miraculously, no pirates, fucking not no pirates, no passengers, sorry,
but also no pirates. We're in the rooms on that
part of the ship at that time, so one crew
member was there though, so he was working to fire
the steam engines when suddenly the ram on the front
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of the Navy cruisers smashed through the bulkhead and through
the room, so water rushed in. Imagine being that dude,
like you're going about your words, just getting the boys started,
and suddenly the room splits in the half that you know,
stressful and then when like when you tell, like if
what if? Like when you tell everybody nobody believes you, like, bro,
I swear good guy. It was like fucking this high, bro.
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Yeah yeah, okay, Bob, let's let's send you down, buddy.
You're drugging.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Is that work?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah? Yeah, go back. So the man pulled the emergency
lever to slam shut the water tight doors, and the
rest of the crew rushed to seal up the other
cabins that were split open. So he's a hero. He
is a hero. Apparently the Olympic was so big that
it sent the navy cruisers spinning away like a top.
And some people that's a top sound, by the way,
and they didn't know what that. Oh that's you without
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you making it. Oh my god, that was mimicking. I
know yours was more like a top actually, So ben Chug,
you're getting replaced, buddy. We need to stay it up.
Some of the people on board didn't even feel the crash,
that's how big the ship was. Wow. So the Olympic
was able to turn around and sail back to port,
canceling the voyage, but without a single injury. I'm sure
that there was at least one seafaring carry and being
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like I got a whiplash. I felt it. I actually
did feel it, So yeah my spine, guys, I need
help with the bathroom lady. Fuck off. The Olympic was
badly damaged, so it limped back to port. Violet obviously
survived the wreck along with everyone else on board, and
it was to be her first escape from a disaster
at sea. The problem was the damage was so massive
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that she was going to be out of work while
it took months to repair the ship. Luckily, the White
Star Line had a new ship that was ready to
launch the next year, and this one say it with
me now, was unsinkable. They wanted experienced crew members because
the new one was built like the Olympic, only bigger.
So the company made the Violet a stewardess on and
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you know the ship Zoe the Titanic. So ifvi ilead
jests sail out on the Titanic in nineteen twelve, again
not your birthday. There were fluttering flags and handkerchiefs when
the Titanic slipped away from Doc and the tugboats were
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tooting farewell and all that stuff. Right, yeah, woo, that's right.
Shooting yeah, tooting. I love, that's what tugboats do. It's
so cute, Like I'm so the journey was It's apparently
a train in my mind. So the journey was supposed
to be a simple one, right. The ship would leave
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from the port in England and make a quick little
pitstop in Ireland and then puff merrily crossed the Atlantic
to New York. In fact, the Titanic almost had its
own collision with another passenger ship as it launched. When
they escaped with only a near miss, the crew thought
that they had avoided the misfortune for the journey. They
were wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Little did I know.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
The one thing that Violet that realized by this point
was that she was uneasy on big ships, you know,
becauseaid the Olympic and all that. What would have happened
if she followed her intuition? Was there ever a time
where you ignored the signs and kept doing something that
was doomed to fail? Ever?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I mean every day, my whole life, my memoir doomed
to fail.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
What about your relationship? I had in like my high
school years. I was like, this is you look like
you're gonna hurt me. Let's do this red flex. I
didn't fix this. So once the ship was underway, it
was just as luxurious as you might think, right, at
least for the wealthiest of passengers. It was the world's
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largest ocean liner, and it was kind of like the Olympic,
but if this time they pulled out literally all the stops, right,
Violet called it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Keep That means, by the way, sorry, pulling out.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
All the stops. No, I don't do you know that,
Merchand no you don't.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's pulling out all the stops in an organ.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
In an organ, isn't it a playing organ? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, So they're like the keys, they are the they're
like the floor pedals, and then there are these stops,
and I think when you.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Pull them all out, it just makes a massive amount
of sound.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I see what you're saying, going off.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Piece here, yea my specialty. But so is so correct,
Thank you God.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
They pulled out all the stops, which, Zoe, did you
know that that's in reference to an organ. That's the
only thing that's.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I called it grander in every way, or like extremely baller.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
It was literally supposed to be a floating Chateau Marmont.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Oh, I don't think I would farewell on a big,
big boat, like trapped for weeks.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'm gonna be honest with you, The big big cruises
kind of freak me out because you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, and also you're stuck with people you did not
choose exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That's what I'm saying, Like it's a hotel that you
cannot like you just can't take a break for I
guess you can go to port and whatever. But it's
just like the activities of all I've grown up going
to all inclusive hotels up until like my teenage years.
God bless my family. That's so lovely that you did
that for us. We're bawling on a budget, but my god,
it gives you such crippling anxiety, like having to like
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fight over like the buffet with like Bob from fucking Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
From Florida needs what top Hispanic and you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, And I'm like, I don't fucking know, Bob.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And that's how I met my girl. God, yeah, you
was so caught of brown Angel and that's how I
met my second husband. So cruises freaked me out. But
for the Titanic, it was all like beautiful mahogany furniture
and baroque molding and scull through o'clocks and young whipper
snappers coming up from steerage to woo society. Girl's named
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Rose stuff like that, you know. And after all that,
they after all they had John Jacob Astro on board,
and he was the wealthiest man in the world at
the time, and he brought along, oh so sweet, his
nineteen year old wife. You fucking creep. So the ballrooms
and dining rooms, it's so stupid to know that, like
throughout history, we made such society, has made such loopholes
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for rich men. You know, it stops today with this podcast.
It stops today.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I knew it was an important move to do this podcast.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
The bottoms and dining rooms and everything were supposed to
be at the height of luxury. The biggest problem for
Violet was that she wasn't there to enjoy the luxury, right,
She was the one providing the luxury, and she was
running between the private rooms, arranging lace bed spreads, running
to the kitchen to carve meat and serve food, running
to help the wealthy passengers go to the bathroom, you know,
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all this stuff. So basically there's just a lot of running, right,
and then came the night. They were in the middle
of the journey and Violet was lying awake when suddenly
she heard a low, crunching, ripping sound, and the whole
ship shivered under her. The strangest part, though, was that
when the engines quit suddenly everything was quiet for only
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a minute, though, but then Violets started to hear low
voices in the passage way outside, you know, a lot
of frantic footsteps passing the door, violently, still hoping that
she was wrong about what was happening, just hoping against logic,
you know. But the crash had woken up the stewardess
who shared Violet's room, and she said, sounds like something
bad has happened. The two of them realized that they
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now had to assist the passengers, to which the entire
world replied, no fucking shit, buddy, you.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Know, oh they did it, you know, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So the two of them realized that they had a
responsibility to manage the passengers. They were still pulling their
clothes on when another stewards knocked under door. They opened
it and he said, have you heard the ship is sinking?
Can you imagine the fucking feeling?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean to be on a sinking ship.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, no, sorry, think you're going.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Amore, Just like the amount of times you use that
as a say, you know, actually.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
One at least one person yelling we're in a metaphor, right, No,
but imagine the panic knowing that there's just nothing you
can fucking do, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And it's like that long it was.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I imagine time was really weird. Get like sped up
but also slowed down and.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, so there is a sense of urgency, right
like a Violet rushed to her passengers and she started
helping children strap on life jackets. But suddenly the order
came down. Everybody to the lifeboats. Right. Most of the
people in violet section have been asleep, and they fumbled
with their valuable struggle to put on thick coats before
Violet let them up the gangways. Before the stewardess could
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go back for their things, they had to make sure
that every guest from their section had evacuated. Violet had
her own panic moment digging through her wardrobe when she
realized that she didn't bring a coat. You know, it's
going to be a bone chilling cold once you're off
that ship, right, what would you do? If you don't
have a coat. Oh my god, I mean, ah, that's
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what I thought.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Would you do?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I mean I would I would ask if someone had
an extra coat.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Excuse me a second.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Sorry, Yeah, I know you guys are all in survival mode,
but like, what's some hmm, yeah, this is not really
my color?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Size medium.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I don't know what the fuck I would have done.
I probably would have panicked and been like, I just
want to dance, you know. And Violet was more resourceful
than either of us. She grabbed the silk bed cover
on her way back to the lifeboats.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And one of the most super surreal details that she
remembered was that she passed a group of officers who
were still in their dress uniforms with their hands in
their pockets, just kind of chatting quietly, and they smiled
at her as she went by. So weird, like you
don't never know how panic is going to strike you, right.
She also passed some of the pantry boys who were
trying to carry a huge load of bread. They tripped
on something hard and everybody looked down to realize that
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it was a suitcase that it burst open filled with
gold coins. Oh got it? So by the time Violet
got to the boats, the arguments had already started, like
who would get left behind to go down with a ship,
and who would be allowed to board one of the
remaining lifeboats and live. Violet watched as John Jacob asked her,
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handed his wife into a boat and waved through goodbye.
Then with a roar, white distress, rockets were fired up
into the sky. Families arrived at the lifeboats together, and
then they cried as they split up. The women climbed
onto the boats and the men faded back into a
growing crowd. Some guys nearby started throwing things over the side,
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like wooden chairs and anything that would float. They were
hoping that there would be things to hold onto in
the water when the lifeboats were gone. And then someone
grabbed Violet's arm. It was a deck officer who was
filling the lifeboat. It was Violet's turn. Violet. Another steward
is clambered on top of the side of the boat,
and the officer held something up towards Violet and said,
look after this. And so when Violet reached down and
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he tossed it to her, and she made the catch.
It was somebody's baby. It was a freaking baby.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
My gosh, yeah to a story.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
How desperate do you have to feel. Imagine how desperate
you have to feel to be like give somebody your baby?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, totally, Oh my god, we're joking, but this is
so harrowing.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I know. So so then the LFE boat dropped and
it was such a long way down, and the lights
of the decks like flashed past them, and then they
hit the water right finally, remember that the impact was
bone cracking, and the baby started to scream. A few
members of the crew were in the boats had the
oars and they started to pull right. The lifeboat moved
into the darkness, away from the Titanic, but it was
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the Titanic was still things so badly now. One of
the men rowing the boat had come from the firing
rooms and violets said that his face was still blackened
by cold dust and his eyes were super bloodshot. He
was only wearing his thin shirt from the engine room,
and there was nothing to protect them from the cold.
Everyone of the lfeboat watched the lights of the Titanic
go out. There were six rows of deck lights, than five,
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then four, then three, then the split in half and
it started going down now. Violet, a good Catholic, closed
her eyes and she prayed for the rest of the night.
It was mostly the extreme cold, the Violet remembered. She
wrapped the silk oiled around the baby and worried that
it's crying was getting weaker and quieter. But don't worry, okay,
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I was just gonna spoil it for you. The baby survived,
so don't forget. The water was chopping around them, and
the boat was thrown between the waves, and Violet was
ferociously determined that the baby was not going to die
in her arms. As the sun came up, the survivors
in the lifeboil were able to see tons of ice
mountains floating around them. How crazy is that sight?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's nuts, so nuts.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And finally, in the light of day, they also spotted
a speck in the horizon. It was the ocean liner Karpathia.
They had received the Titanic's distress called the night before,
and they had arrived in time to pick up the lifeboats.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's also I mean, I know they're not we can't
consider them lucky because of the sinking Titanic, but what
a blessing that it only took them a.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Night, you know, yeah, truly, truly.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Also something I thought I have thought about whenever I
think about the Titanic, which is kind often quite often, yeah,
is when the boat went in the pull of the yeah,
the water and just trying to clear the it's that that.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
And also just like the sound that I like both too,
must make right.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Gotten into three car accidents. That's why I don't live
in LA anymore. Total three cars in five years.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Thank god, you're okay, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Two of the cars were pet cruisers and one was
a rental car on the way to pick up the
second PT cruiser.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Well, just because it was a life threatening car crash,
I will make no comment. But no than in any
of the circumstances, I would just have so many questions.
But go on.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But the reason I bring this up is I can
conjure the sound of a car crash so easily.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
The stick, the well, the crinkling. Oh and the smell.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh my god, it smells like burn to burn, rubber burnt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, it's it's very it's singular, like I I God,
if you smell that smell not good.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Back to Violet, back to Violet and just so Alredie
just knows, like we understand the tragedy of the Titanic.
It's just like there is I don't know about Uzoe,
but whenever I get nervous or there's anything tragic, I
have to like find some lightness around it, because otherwise
it's just too dark, you know. Yeah, So I left
at funerals, is what I'm saying. So hire me as
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a stand up comedian for your funeral. Come to my funeral.
Please come to my funeral. So the men in Violet's
vote pulled hard on the yours, and they were the
last to reach the rescue ship. When Violet and the
others climbed out to the deck, the first thing that
they were given was a glass of brandy. I mean,
to be honest, that sounds pretty fantastic. Like what, I
don't know, what would you want? It's your first thing
after being rescued. Hmmm, kanji kanji? What's conch kanji is?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
It's it's like a kind of a warm rice porridge.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Fuck yeah, I would want some college. I would like
a soluble? Am I just being weird? Like I was
just like, no, I don't know, but maybe that's I
don't know, but also nutritious and dele warm, like I
want superfood and I want to remain true to I
want to remain true to my fitness goals, is what
I want. So Violet was standing on the deck feeling
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days when suddenly a woman rushed up and grabbed the
baby out of her arms. She turned and ran away
into the crowd. We can only speculate and hope to
God that that was the baby's mom, right, because I
don't know, that was definitely the baby's mom, right, Please? Yeah, please,
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So the Titanic was the deadliest sinking of a ship
in history up to that point. By the time it
was over, sixty percent of the first class passenger survived.
Fuck in the se in class, less than half managed
to make it. Overall, thirteen hundred people died. Seven hundred
of those were third class passengers. So fucking unfair. And
you might think that the escaping of the record the
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Titanic and living to tell the tale would be enough
to keep Violet Jessa from ever going to see again.
But that's wrong. No, No, it's an abusive it's like
a terrible relationship. It's a red flag. She just can't.
She's gonna fix it, ye, viol Wood Banks ocean. Yeah,
I'm going to fix the ocean, you guys. That is
the confidence. Yeah, I love that confidence. She even said
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that she knew that she had to go back right
away otherwise she would lose her nerve, and to be honest,
fair enough, that makes sense to me. So just two
weeks after she was finished giving her testimony about the wreck,
she was back at it again. Well like, if you
literally just survived the wreck of the Olympic Escape number
one and then the Titanic escape, are you going back
to sea or.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Are you finally I'm taking two years at least.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go to Long
Island and just on the ground it all good time,
and look up at the stars and that's just going
to be my job. What's even crazier, though, is that
in nineteen sixteen, for your birthday, she even had the gun.
She even had the guts to join the crew of
the third replica model of the White star Line fleet,
the Britannic. Can you believe she's just like, no, no, no,
(36:20):
I'm going to get this right. She's the thing hard Yeah, well,
the thing was basically no one in the world knew
how to cruly ships like Violet did. Plus, the Britannic
was commissioned as a wartime hospital ship because, of course,
nineteen sixteen was in the middle of World War One,
so Violet felt her own kind of patriotic duty to
serve in the war, and that meant overcoming her fears
and going back to sea to serve as a Red
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Cross nurse. On the latest copy of The Titanic, She's
a fucking badass.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
She really is so brave.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
So when they went to see in nineteen sixteen, the
crew of the hospital ship didn't realize how extremely dangerous
their job was, and that brings us to escape number three.
So in November that year, the Britannic was cruising the
Agency to pick up a load of wounded soldiers. Violet
was sitting down to breakfast with a crew. She says
that she had a hot pot of tea in one
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hand and some butter in the other, when suddenly an
explosion rocked the ship. That is a very tiny explosure.
That was explosion rocked the ship. But to be honest,
it was such a tiny little explosion that they were
all fine in the quo. Just imagine she was like,
excuse me, yeah, sorry, yeah, but part of me, the
butter helps with my guys. I just imagine Violet being like,
you gotta be fucking kidding me, like again, truly tru again. Yeah, yeah,
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the nurses brought today, not today, I'm gonna tame your
fucking sea. Yeah, I can fix it. So the nurses
rushed to gather their life for servers, but Violets started
by helping a few of the others, and while everybody
went to their lifeboats, Violet went back to her cabin.
So you know, this wasn't Violet's first rodeo, so by
now the sense of panic wasn't going to overwhelm her,
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and she was determined to take a few things with her.
She grabbed her ring, a bible, her alarm clock, and
a toothbrush. If your ship's going down, what are the
things that you're gonna grab?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Well, that's a silk duvet, a silk dovey of course.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Oh yeah, she's learned from you, learned from others.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Very well done, I think leave it all.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Why is grabbing a fucking alarm clock? Though? What are
you like? She's like just doothbrush. Yeah, she's like reminding
me to brush my teeth if we're in long enough.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I know, Ring, I guess maybe yeah, special ring.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, she's like, this is my invisibility ring. Violet, you're
reading too much h J R R. Tolken, which is
not the time because Jerr Token was fighting in the
war and I knew that. So Violet said that she
made sure to get the toothbrush because of how much
people made fun of her for not having one after
the Titanic went down. I guess that's what happens to
you when you're mostly surrounded by first class fucking assholes,
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you know.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So they were making they were like nagging her about yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
On the tugboat.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
On the tugboat day, there was a bigger ship, the
Maker ship that rescue them from the right. So this
is what happens, right, You're getting made fun of for
not having toothrush when you're surrounded by assholes, and what
a fucking weird thing to do. But she grabbed the toothbrush,
which is kind of endearing.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Shame, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, So by the time she reached the deck, Violet
was the last one on board, and the officer there
was surprised to see you, or because he thought that
all the nurses had already been loaded into the lifeboats.
What Violet was finally in lifeboats. She remembered that it
dropped so fast that it was smashing lights and bouncing
off the brass rims into portholes as it went down,
and then it finally hit the water so hard that
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it knocked everyone dizzy. I'm just going to suggest that
people start taking courses of how to lower lightboats and
then not like such a greasy way. I'm just like,
if it's me reading the signs, I mean, guys, you know,
save yourselves, of course, but like you don't want to
kill them on the way down. You know, I've seen
Why Loadus season two. You know, getting off of boats
is dangerous. But that still wasn't the worst thing that happened,
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you know, because by now, okay, this is really fucked up.
By now, the front of the ship was dipping down,
and that meant that the huge propeller was now lifting
out of the water. At the back the ship was
still moving forward too, so the propeller was now swinging
forward toward the lifeboats and chopping the water, pulling them
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towards it. No, no, no, that's what you were saying.
So she says that she looked back and saw other
lifeboats and the people in them sucked into the propeller, and,
in her words, minced so violently jumped out of the
lifeboat into the water. She held her breath, she closed
her eyes, and she felt herself get whipped into the
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propeller's spin. Twice, something hard crashed into her head. She
had a life jacket on, but it was too small
to carry her weight. The only thing that actually saved
her was grabbing a second life jacket that went floating by.
Once she was floating on the surface, Violet opened her eyes,
but she says that she closed them again to block
out the site of the ship sinking away. Eventually, she
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opened her eyes in time to see that the Britannic
finally dove into the waves with a stern flying upward
into the air, before the whole ship sank straight down.
One crazy fucking thing here, She says that she never
learned to swim, so you would think, sorry, are you okay?
So let me bive check you're I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Just disturbed by this. This is a bomber. When you
said they were minced. Yeah, did we need to use
that burb?
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Listen? I didn't write her memoir, Okay, I knows now.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It's just so crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I don't know if I would have known to jump
out of the boat.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
My fory is that by the time she she swam
far enough that by the time that the propeller was
even pulling at them, that it was going more vertical.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Also that you're never going to forget fucking seeing people
get absolutely ravaged by It's.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So crazy, like they thought that they were safe.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Too, exactly. And you know when you were talking about
the boats sinking and how that would pull you under, Yeah,
I was also thinking that, But I was like, I'd
never even thought about like a propeller also pulling you
towards it. Like fuck, Like, how many fucking things do
I have to worry about?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Totally?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I also like trying to like catch a wave on
like a you know, like swimming out on a surfboard,
and like I'm always humbled by how much exertion.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
You need to Oh my god, you know how much
energy you need to exert to.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Swim back out to the surfing. It's just like, yeah,
I'm so inove and also surfing is one of those
things that like really makes you respect the sea because like,
no matter how good you are at it, like it's
going to make you feel like a dumbass, you.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Know, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
So she floating on the water until the rescue boats
reached her, and they brought her back to shore on
a Greek island, and Violet learned that they had sailed
into a string of underwater mines dropped by a German
submarine the day before. Somehow, only twenty people were killed
as the ship went down, and most of them were
not killed by a mine. They were actually killed by
the propellers. Violet had a frack skull. I'm sorry to
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do this to you, so, but I just need to
tell you a story. I wish I could change the facts.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I thought the escapes were gonna be like fun.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
You're like, so I escaped like this really weird relationship
in Tabo. No, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
She ractured skull. Do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
She hit probably a piece of the lifeboats, a piece
of the boat really anything, and it hit her twice
right and her leg was cut open to the bone.
So it took her three full years to heal. Now.
Fortunately for her, she had again escaped the White Star
Line with her life. So listen, we're coming to the
end of violet story here. And if you escape three
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second ship, would you ever, like, please let me out
of this? Would you ever travel by sea again? No?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
But this bitch be crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
She's like, like, let me get out back out there.
She's like, she's like, I was close this time. Put
me in coach. When it was finally time to go home,
Violet decided to travel to London by land. Thank god.
So in London, Violet took a job a bank and
for a while she would at least she stopped tempting faate.
Violet published a memoir in the nineteen thirties, when her
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memories of the White Star Line were still fresh now
for a while, though her book didn't really get much attention.
There are people interested in the Titanic, sure, but not
very many of them were paying attention to the story
of a stewardist. They are all about guys like John
Jacob Astor and all the other fancy pants in the
first class people. Oh, one crazy thing. Even after JJ
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died on the Titanic, we're that close that I just
call him JJ. His family kept investing in the White
Star line. His son was collecting stock certificates in nineteen
thirty one, like the company killed him with their terrible
fucking boat, and there was still money to be made.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
People are making crazy decisions, insane.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
The early nineteen hundreds was just fucking nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
It's maybe just the takeaways, like people have been crazy forever.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, And I don't find comfort in that, but I
find comfort in I find a comfort in the fact
that people have been the same throughout history and in
the sense of, like, not to get too deep on this,
but like, my dad died when I was seventeen, and
one of the things that helped me was that my
teacher gave me this the Hamlet monologue to be or
not to be right, And at first it made no
fucking sense to me because it was Greek to me,
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and I'm like, wearing water, Mala, why the fuck are
you giving me like old English books? But then once
I started really paying attention to it, after a brief
moment of mourning, I realized that this guy was talking
about exactly what I was going through right five hundred
years before me, and I found there's a certain sense
of comfort in knowing that the human existence is not
that different, you know, so that I'm not alone in
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this experience. And it was actually, incidentally what made me
take acting seriously and moved to New York and study acting.
Why we have a podcast? Oh my god, there we go.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
That's a very moving story.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
So Violet finally retired in nineteen fifty and moved herself
into a little English college on the east coast of England.
I love that for her. Do you have a retirement
destination in mind? Oh?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Man, I don't know. We've been talking about Ireland so much.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Love.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
So now you're moving til we'll see, Like we'll check
in next week. We're telling you about about the Caribbean.
You're like, yeah, I just always felt like Jamaica was
calling to me. What about like the Caribbean speaking It's
just like calling to me anybody else see it. So
if you survived the death traps made by the White
Star Line enough times, I feel like you deserve a
little seaside cottage. You know, the should just give it
to you. Honestly, the White Star Line should have paid
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for it, you know, and maybe huh they would have,
except they went bankrupt in nineteen thirty four on say
it with me you birthday, that's right. So anyway, Violently
finally gave herself permission to just, you know, just raise
some chickens and put up her feet. And she lived
there for almost twenty years, all the way into her eighties. Oh.
In one little last little tidbit, one day, this is nuts.
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One day, a little while before she died, Violet got
a phone call super late at night. That's the sound
of a phone, in case you didn't know, and Violent
Violet gets out of bad and answers it, and it
was somebody saying they were from Jenny fucking Craig. Just no,
so what are you really?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I was with you?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
So Violet gets out of bed, she answers the phone.
Right she hears the voice of a lady on the
other end of the line who asked if she was
Violet Jessep who had been on the Titanic, and Violin
was like, yes, that was me. Who is this? The
person on the other end of the phone was like,
I am the baby you rescued, oh my, And then
they just hung up and she never called again. Isn't
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that crazy? Is that all? She said, that's all she
said and investing. Yahoo, I guess I don't fucking know.
But isn't that wild?
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, so I guess maybe.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Well I wish that Violet had been like, was the
woman who grabs you out of my arms? Your mom?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah? Who is your mother? What does she look like? Yeah?
And it's this crazy story and I really hope that
it wasn't just somebody crane calling her.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
So the wreck of the Titanic was found on the
ocean floor almost fifteen years after Violet died. The discovery
of the wreck kicked off a new wave of interest
in the ship what it was really like during the voyage,
So that finally brought violet story the attention it deserved.
Her book was published in nineteen eighty seven, and this
time it became one of the defining stories of the
Titanic by including what it was really like for normal
(48:12):
people working there to survive. And so that's when Violet
finally got her nickname, Miss Unsinkable. Miss Unsinkable, that's sexually
her nickname. Now, anyway, that's our story. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Oh my god, the twists and turns so crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Right, Wow, we're like last one minute and I'm like
fucking like so disturbed, and then I'm also like kind
of hungry, Like just a lot went on. So you're
fucking amazing, dude. And you're in so many different projects
like The after Party Night Bitch and your Voice a
Mermaid scientists are on Creature Commandos. So wow, yeah, listeners,
go find her work asap. I want to go back
(48:52):
to our producer, call Knillis, because he's had an entire
episode to think about a New Sea shanty or an
Irish song, an Irish song of any kind. So Carl,
do you have something for me? Yes?
Speaker 4 (49:03):
I do, and here we go. Zoey Child was the
Queen of podcast. Zoe Child is the Queen no Podcast.
Zoe Child is the Queen no Podcast. There lying in
the morning. Way hey enops? She rises way, hey enop,
she rises way Hey enough she rises in the morning.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Hey. Thank you, Carl, Thank you everybody. Zoe, thank you
so much for being in this. You were such a
wonderful guest.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
You are such a great storyteller and so fun to
hang out with.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Oh, thanks so much, See you later. Banana A. Bo
Brady's Escapes is a production of iHeartRadio and Film Nation
Entertainment in association with Gilded Audio. Our executive producers from
me or Turo Castro, Alyssa Martino and Milan Popelka from
(49:52):
Film Nation Entertainment, Andrew Chug and Winning Donaldson from Gilded Audio,
and Dylan Fagan from iHeartRadio. The show was produced and
edited by Carl and Ben Chubb, who are also, respectively,
our research overlord and music overlord. Our associate producer is
Tory Smith, who's our other overlord. Nick Dooley is our
technical director. Additional editing by Whitney Donaldson. Special thanks to
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Alison Cohen, Dan Welsh, Ben Riiseek, Sarah Joyner, Nicki Stein,
Olivia Canny and Kelsey Albright. Hey, thank you so much
for listening, and if you're enjoying the show, please drop
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a rating or review. My mom will call you each
personally and thank you, and we'll see you all next week.
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