September 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Episode 270 of the Hammer Territory Podcast arrives with nine games remaining in the 2025 season for the Atlanta Braves. Shawn Coleman and Stephen Tolbert discuss the arrival of Jhancarlos Lara, Atlanta's 40-man roster, Brian Snitker, the upcoming weekend series against the Detroit Tigers, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Welcome on and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My
name is Sean covid to Hope. Wherever you are and
wherever you were listed, and you were having a great
week so far. It's at weeks are more fun when
they're filled with braves wins, and that's what we've been
able to see. Mendelson home runs, the offense, having fun,
just an absolute offensive outburst in our nation's capital. My
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name is Sean Comen is always here with my podcast
partner Steven Tober, and I will put the disclover out there.
I have not one hundred percent tonight. Please forgive the
voice and for that reason, I'm gonna let my podcast
partner take the raids. One of the best when it
comes to cover the braves, Steven tom Good to always
do these with you, sir, Hope you bid well?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good CD again, what's up, buddy. For those who don't know,
behind the scenes, our man Sean has been very sick
the last week. And I mean this is like a
Michael Jordan flu game type situation we have going on
right now. My guy's just gutting it out. I mean,
just a pros pro you know.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's like, I mean, this is why is the best
podcast partner the year?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And this is like this is inspirational movie type stuff. Rocky,
you know, Seabiscuit and Sean Coleman. You know, those are
kind of the big three right now that I can
think of. So, yeah, it has been a fun week. Well,
it's been a fun week as long as you're not
hoping the Braves lose games. I guess there are that
there is that segment of fans that we're really hoping
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for losses. The Nationals bad just turned out to be
substantially worse than the Braves bad. The Nationals, God bless
the Nationals.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
They fired everybody early in the season because the rebuild
has not been going well, and you can kind of
see the evidence of that. They not only lost to
the Braves this weekend, they got demolished in a way
that the Braves haven't demolished really anybody in a long time. So,
and the Braves still have three more games with the Nationals,
by the way, So yeah, the chances the Braves having
like one of these top two or three picks, or
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at least top two or three odds of having a
top pick are probably gone. You know, you win five
in a row this late, it's gonna change those. So
Braves are more than likely going to be in like
the five four or five six range in terms of
the lottery odds. They can still get a top pick.
Obviously it's a lottery. But but yeah, it's been fun
watching the Braves hit Herdson Waldrip had a pretty decent
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start after a rough one that Brad and I were
in person for last Friday against the against the Astros.
So but yeah, buddy, it's good to be back on
with you. You're an inspiration to an entire country and
we love you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I appreciate the kind of words. But of course, yeah, no,
it's it's been fun to see you know again. I
know Brad Scott talked about it last night. You don't
want to take it out of context. There is very
little significance of the Braves, you know, playing well right
now on the offense doing what it is, especially against Washington.
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But at the very least it is relevant. You'd much
rather be playing goodball in the season, especially in the
season where you haven't played good ball, than the alternative.
But it's been a month or so. It's been the
past four or five weeks where it's the news, the
news nuggets that come down the pipe that carried more
value a lot of times than what we're seeing on
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the field. And once again, while not official as of yet,
friend of the show girl vedic, he let it be
know today that more than likely, John Carlos Laura, a
name that you know has really gained recognition familiarity in
Braves country over the past few years, a name who
I felt, you know some at least myself. You know,
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I'm not gonna act like I'm I'm a prospect guy
by any means, but he was a name I was
wanting to watch for. He was Dinni here for winters
before Dinnier for Winter has had that outstanding's pre trading.
Because of how good at times Laura looked last year
and he's looked good this year, the Braves are going
to call up John Carlos Laura to be a member
of the bullpen basically over the final stretch of the season.
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And this isn't just another column. This isn't, in my opinion,
a call up in which you know, like we saw
with Hayden Harris, where Harris has just been so good
at the minters he deserved the opportunity to be called
up John Carlos. Laura being called up is significant because
this is someone who truly has the potential to be
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a staple in the Braves bullpen. He has that type
of upside you know we talk about over the past
fifteen years, Craig Kimbrel a, J Mintor. I'm not saying Laura,
there's an overwhelming chance he's going to be at that level.
Definitely not a Kiber level, But there hasn't been many
any prospects, relief prospects at least that have had as
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much noise around them as Laura has other than the
two days that I mentioned it. That's the level of
arm that we're looking at with one of the best
sliders in baseball, and it's finally going to be awesome
to see him in the Atlanta bullpea in the Coby days.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yep. So obviously we're not prospect guys. We don't pretend
to be prospect guys. We listen to people smarter than
us when it comes to this stuff. But as guys
get closer and closer and get to this level where
there are very likely going to be contributors, that's kind
of where we start, you know, jumping in and learning
about these guys. And so we've spent the last probably,
i don't know, two months learning about Laura, just as
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he's gotten more and more name recognition. He was in
Triple A, and obviously, once you're in Triple A, really
even in Double A with this organization, you're one call
away from being in the majors. And so, you know,
we've all just kind of been paying attention to Laura
the last few months, and it was weird. It's a
little weird to me that they're waiting this late to
call him up like we thought we might see him
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when rosters expanded in September, just to see what he's got.
Obviously the Braves wanted him to develop a little more
in the minors, but yeah, calling a guy up with
like ten games left in the season is a little weird,
but you know, it's better than never. Do you want
to see what he looks like in the majors. He's
a very interesting prospect. If you don't know, he's a
six to three right handed reliever. He's a pure relief prospect.
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Twenty two years old is still very young. I think
he's rated as I think he's in the top fifteen
depending on which scouting service, which prospect ranking you look at,
So he's one of the Braves better prospects. The dude
throws one hundred miles an hour, though he sits like
ninety eight ninety nine, one hundred. He's got a live,
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live arm, but he's got a wipeout slider. His slider
is one of the best pitches in the Braves entire
farm system. He throws at like eighty nine nine emails
an hour. It's got I think it's It's been recorded
multiple times this year at over three thousand RPMs. In
terms of spin rate. It is a devastating pitch and
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when he has his command going, those two pitches together
are lethal. He misses a ton of bats. The problem is,
and this is not you know, this is not specific
to him. He doesn't always know where it's going. And
the command and the control is certainly his biggest thing.
He you know, he walks a number of people and
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has all year, and I'm sure that's what's kept him
in the miners. Like listen, if this guy was walking
three per nine inning, he would have been in the
majors a long time ago. That's kind of his thing.
But if you have control problems in the miners, once
you get to the majors, they usually get exasperated exacerbated,
So it's probably gonna go poorly a little bit. We're
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this is gonna be kind of a little bit like
Diddier Fuintes, where it's probably throwing him to the wolves
a little bit just to see what he looks like.
It's not as bad as Diddy or Fuintees because Fintes
was literally nineteen years old when it happened to him.
He's twenty, you know, Laura's twenty two. He's spent a
substantial amount of time in Ginett. You can justify the
call up. And the arm is so special, you know,
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you can see why the Braves want to see what
they've got, and so I'm curious to see how much
run he gets. Again, the Braves have not confirmed this,
but you know Groov doesn't miss on this stuff. He's
pretty much batt in a thousand on all. Anytime he
reports this, it happens like the next day. So I
would expect by the time you are listening to this
that John Carlos Laura is either on the team or
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there will be an announcement very shortly that he's going
to be on the team. But that's this is an
exciting one. This this is a really top end level
reliever prospect that, if he's good, could help the Braves
quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah. I mean, he's the type of arm that could
be a contributor not only to the Braves next year
when they're trying to win, but could even be a
potentially different smaky doll. You know, we get big bovits. Uh.
I know, I'm putting a lot know what will be
a twenty three year old next year, But that's the
level that we're looking at. And you know, it's not like,
you know, a Dazebel Hernandez. You know where his stuff's odd,
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which is more rare than it be. It's more rare
for Dazebel to be awed and locked in than it
is for him to struggle. He struggled quite a bit
this year, Carlos Laura. If he's locked in, that slider
legitimately could instantly be one of the best breaking pitches
of a really word in baseball. Like he is that good.
I know that. You know it's a diamond, does it? Now?
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When it comes to relievers who throw near one hundred
miles an hour and can flash a highly effective slider.
John Carlos Laura can have one of the best of
the best, Like that's the level that he could be
at in time, not saying it's going to be instantaneous,
but just saying that this could be a different smaking arm.
And we talk about the Braves being able to find
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internal sources of different spaking contributions to a team that
in the years to come is going to look again
to content. John Carlos Laura is one of those type
of contributors and it's going to be good to see
what he could do again. It's going to be the
control that really matters. But one thing that I celebrate
with this particular prospect for the Braves is with how
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much the Braves push these arms to be starters, to
be starters, to be starters, and push them in terms of,
you know, elevating them through the bottle league system quickly.
With Laura, they took a different path. They went with
what he was successful with, which was pitching down the bullpit,
and it really seems to have clicked with him and
it could pay big dividends both next year and potentially
for years to come.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, and that is a very good point. Like this
guy has been a pretty much a pure reliever prospect
his entire career with the brain like they don't there's
no there's no talk about being a starter. I know
at some point in Gwinnett, I think they they stretched
him out a little bit. But there's no one that
we've talked to that thinks this guy is going to
be a major league starter. He just has two pitches,
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and you know, the big thing when you have two
pitches is that you you pretty much have to be
a reliever. It's very difficult to go through an order
more than one time with two pitches, and that's kind
of the baseline for being a starter in the majors
is three acceptable pitches somewhere. So, yeah, he'll be a reliever.
The question is gonna be how good of a reliever?
And listen, I'm not saying it's open tryouts for the
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Braves bullpen next year, but there's definitely spots available in
the Braves bullpen next year. And if Laura comes out
and impresses, even if it's only for a week sample,
you know, he's only gonna be up for ten days.
That means he's automatic. He's gonna be on the forty
man when they make the move tomorrow. Obviously they got
to make a forty man move to get him on
the forty mans. And once you're on the forty man,
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you get an invite to spring training. You're a part
of the mix now, Like getting on the forty man
is a huge part of a prospects life cycle. And
so if he does indeed get called up tomorrow, that
means he's now on the forty man, So you know
he'll be in spring training next year. He is in
the mix to be a contributor for the bullpen next
year if that does indeed happen. So it's a big deal,
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And that's kind of why some of us wanted to
see it earlier, just to kind of get him in
the rotation of possibilities for the bullpen next year, because
somebody with this type of arm needs to be at
least looked at that we need to see at least
what he's got what he doesn't have. Maybe it's abundantly
clear this guy belongs in the miners. Still, he's only
twenty two years old. It's not that big a deal.
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If he needs to go back to the miners, and
if that's where he needs to start next year, that's fine.
But let's see it. Let's see what he is, what
he's got, what he looks like, how far away he is.
It's all good, I think. I hope the Braids had
done this a couple of weeks ago, so we got
a larger sample. But better late than never. I'm excited
to see the kid.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And the thing is also about the Braids Boolpit with
aired Bubber, Pierce Johnson and Joe him it is between
those three. I've already got twenty five million combined in
commitments to your bullpen next year. Now those are three
five arms for the six the eighth, but you don't
have a proven closer. You still have questions about your
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back end. That's a lot to be committed to next
year's wullpion with. There's still be this many questions outstanding
about it. So you need to find some answers, and
you need to find some answers from cheap sources, which
means internally, and that is hopefully John Carlos Laura work
it out. It's gonna be awesome to see I again,
know that you know what, we get to see it
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a few times. But when you see that slider, when
you see that fastball slider commodation at work, it's going
to turn your head and it's going to be good
to see and hopefully we'll get to see it be
successful in many big situations as we go through the
next several years in Atlanta. But speaking of moves, speaking
of roster editions, that was not the only roster addition today.
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And when you look at the grand scheme of things
over the past six weeks, the Braves have been highly
active and now have a pretty crowded roster. Me and
Steven will break that down a bit more here in
just a moment, after a word from our partners.
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Speaker 1 (14:57):
So Steven, you not the only move was made today. Er,
excuse me. Let me back this up real quick. It's
actually a move that was not made today because again
it's not been made official as of yet. But the
significance of that is because since that move has not
been made official, it is going to be official more
than likely tomorrow. An official move that the Braves did
make today is they claimed former San Francisco Giant infield
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prospect Brett Wisely. He is now on the braves forty
bed roster. To make move to make room for him,
the Braves added Aaron Bubber to the sixty man, I
l And if you've ever really dived into and I
know several Braves Country like to do this, and always
it always makes me smile with how intelligent many members
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of Braves Country are because they know what they're talking
about from looking and doing their own research, because they
just love baseball so much. What I'm getting at is, though,
is that there are many moving parts when it comes
to this Brase forty bed roster number one in terms
of the people who were currently on it, but perhaps
even more significant is the people who are not currently
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on it, who are on that sixty day I l
and are going to clearly be back of the forty
bad roster. What's the seasons? We'll get that into that
in just a moment. Do you see any significance? Did
did the addition of Brett wisely turn your head? It
seems to be a bit redundant with other members that
we have on the forty band roster, but for somewhat
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top prospect with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, So the Braves love themselves a light hitting utility infielder.
I mean this is right out of the like NICKI Lopez,
Nick Allen, Videl Bruhan Luke Williams mold of can play shortstop,
can play second, can play third. He's left handed. He
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throws right handed, but he hits left handed. He's still
only he's still relatively young. He's only twenty six. He
was a top he wasn't at like a top, top
tier prospect with the Giants. I think he topped out it,
like I think he come in. Came in when you're
like sixteenth on their top thirty, so like a reasonable prospect,
like somebody who was gonna be in the majors. He
can't hit. He's got a career sixty four WRC plus.
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He's got very little power. He doesn't have much speed.
His main value is he can play shortstop, second base,
third base. He could probably play first base in a pinch. Honestly,
he could probably play a little outfield if you if
you gave him a chance to, Like, he is a
utility guy, and he is taking up a forty man
spot now. And this is why this is significant. If
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this was just a minor league guy, we would never
talk about him. But once you get to the point,
and we were just talking about this with Laura, once
you get to the point where you're on the forty man.
You're taking up a forty man rush spot. What you
do and how well you do it is now a
significant part of the equation because there's only there's only
forty of those spots available. And you know, the Braves
already have Nick Allen, They've got Videl Brahan, They've got
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you know, obviously they got Hasung Kim. Now we don't
know what's gonna happen with Hasung Kim because obviously he's
got this player option lingering out there. But now they
have this army of like backup utility type infielders. I
can't imagine all of them are gonna stay around. That's
too what's way too many, uh, you know, offensively challenged
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middle endfielders to have on your forty man. Somebody's getting
bumped at some point. Obviously a lot of that will
happen in the offseason. But he's just a guy kind
of There's not a lot of excitement here. There's not
much to get worked up about. Hassan Kim is obviously
the main priority at shortstop right now is everybody hopes
he's back. But if he's not back, the Braves have
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this small little army of guys who can't hit, who
can who can play middle endfield positions.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, and it's good to see. It's probably tryouts. That's
probably what it is. I mean, you know, I think
at the end of the day, Nick Allould probably you know,
makes sense to keep because of all those guys that
even Rodacho Alvarez in there, though, I think they have
about rely option left these latter hitting utility infielders. Of
those guys, when you look at that group of you know,
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not good enough to be an MBLEB starter, but you know,
could offer value off of bitch type talents, which of
those guys has the most added value of what skill?
And that's Nick Allen's defense. So at the end of
the day, it's probably just the brains getting a glip
of what these guys could offer next year. But to
your point, more than likely multiple of these guys are
gonna be bumped in time.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Because I'll say this, because you just met a good point.
Brat Wisely has a has a minor league option next year. Yep,
Vital Bruhan, Luke Williams, and Nick Allen all are out
of options. That might be part of the calculus here
is that Wisely actually has a minor league option, Nacholl
Alvrez has a minor league option. The other three guys
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do not have minor league options for next year.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, so that makes sense, you know, depindion of what
the Braves are looking to do it again. We know
that the Braves have been active. You know, they've done
this before when it comes to off seasons. They're just
doing it early now because there are chances of this
being I mean, equal season happened early. They made it
to where they've added people early in the off season
and wound up asidating them for assignment as time went on.
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So you see this, It's just happened a bit earlier
this time around. But it does need to be mentioned
the amount of names that now are building up on
that sixty man il and who's going to be added back.
I mean we're talking about Aaron Bummer, We're talking about
Ajsmis Shotter, We're talking about Jake Frailey now Spitcher swelling back, right,
Donald Lopez, Austin Riley, I know of for Guinea names.
But the point that I'm getting at is that are
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those are names that you're obviously hoping are going to
be back healthy better than ever, when they come back
in time, you know, in the in the next month
or so, so a lot of these names that were
you may look at the forty band roster for the
brainsdown and be like, why is this guy on the
forty band roster? Well, it's simply to fill it out
for right now with these other guys who are going
to who are already being paid for next year come back.
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Those type of names that you question me on the
forty bid roster, they'll be off by the end. But
it's no small factor into the off season that the
brains are going to have to have many changes to
this forty bid roster initially, not to mention how they're
going to create space with that forty bid roster four
editions as we go through the off season.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, it's a mechanism some fans may not know about.
But the sixty day il goes away once the season ends.
I think I think it goes away. Can't remember it
goes away in October November, but I think it's after
the World Series. But the sixty diel goes away, and
the sixty il is the is the place that teams
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put players when obviously they're going to be out for
a long time, but they want to clear a forty
man roster spot so they can add somebody who's healthy back. Well, obviously,
the the you know what happens is at the end
of the year, the sixty day il goes away, so
all of those guys who got taken off of the
four forty man roster have to be put back on
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by the time we get to the off season. So
I'm just gonna go through the names so everybody knows
because it's it's actually incredible the number of guys the
Braves have on the sixty day al. So it's Jake Frayley,
it's Austin Riley, Sean Murphy, it's a j Smith Shawber,
It's Spencer Swollenbach, Ronaldo Lopez, Joejamenez, Grant Holmes, and Aaron Bummer.
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And in order to get Laura on the forty man tomorrow,
I would not be surprised if they put another guy
on the sixtyd al tomorrow. So that's a bunch of guys,
like ten guys that are on the sixtyda AL that
are gonna be added back to the forty man roster
when the season ends. So and obviously the Braids will
have guys just naturally come off the forty when the
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season's over. Marcel A Zuna will come off the forties.
No longer on the roster, he's a free agent. Rossillo
Gleasiers will come off the forty he's a free agent.
Sandy Leone, who got added when Sew Murphy got hurt,
will come off the roster because he's a free agent.
And then there'll be the offseason moves where like guys
get non tender. Jake Freiley might get non tendered. Eli
White might get non tendered. Jared Kelnick, these are guys
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the Braves have under team control, but they might choose
to let them go into free agency because they just
want better things for that roster spot. Jared Kelnick, I
think is a pretty pretty clear, you know, probably gonna
be non tendered at some point this offseason. So yeah,
we're not gonna do a full forty man dive tonight.
We've got the off season for that and we'll have
plenty of time to do that. But we did just
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want to point out the number of players the Brave
have on the sixtyd al. It's gotten pretty much the
double digits at this point, all of them have to
be added back at the beginning of the offseason, and
then you have to actually if you want to make
any sort of moves, then you have to clear a
space there to make moves to add guys to the forties.
So it does get tight in the offseason with a
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nose sixty di al, you do have to put everyone
back on. And so we're gonna see some moves early
where the Braves are making roster moves. The Braves are
clear and non tendering guys, cutting guys, releasing guys because
they need the forty men spots because all of those
guys have to be put back on when the season's over.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And it is not a far fetched statement to make
or prediction to make. I feel that those group of
names that you just mentioned, that group itself could be
a source of twenty to twenty five wins above replacement
next year for this Braves team. Like you hope that
that could be the case. The Braves need for it
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to be the case, if not more than that. But
that's another concerned going into the off season that you
have so many of those significant names currently on the
forty or currently not on the forty mid roster. They're
on the sixty deil who are going to go into
the off season, you hope, getting healthier than when they
got injured, obviously, but who likely are not going to
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have just a fully healthy offseason. Sub will more than others.
But that is a big thing, and it feels like
that it's rit swashed repeat once again for like a
third or four straight off season. One of the biggest
contributing factors to the Braves getting back to where they
would get he is returning to hell for their for
many of their internal options like Austin Bridley and others,
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So that that is no small development is monitoried, not
only those names coming back over the roster, but them
getting healthy in state healthy.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah. I mean listen, Austin Riley and Sean Murphy alone
have both been five, four or five win players in
their career. I mean that could be you know, that's
eight ten war sitting on the sixty al right there.
Then you had Spencer Swallenbach, you had Ronaldo Lopez. I mean,
these are guys who were substantial contributors. You know, Grant Holmes,
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Chris Sale was on the sixty dayl It just came
off and Obviously, Spencer Strider spent the last year on
the sixty day because he was recovering from elbow surgeries.
So yeah, the brains, the brains have had massive, massive
pieces of their what they need to be contributors, guys
who they depend on we're just not playing and it
isn't an It's actually an unbelievable amount of guys on
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the sixty al this season. At some point, probably in October,
when there's no more Braves, I'll go through and actually
count how many players the Braves put on the sixty
al at some point this season, because it is absurd.
And that's what made me think of it tonight to
talk about was obviously they put Jake Freeley on. Now
they did that to clear a roster spot. It's so
close to the end of the season. He's probably not
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that hurt, but they did it to they needed the
roster spot. But it made me think all of these
guys have to get back on the forty man when
the off season starts, So the Braids are going to
have some maneuvering to do, to say the least, even
before we get into what they do for the off season,
just to get to the offseason, the Braids are gonna
have some moves to make to clear up some forty
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man spots for all their injured guys being put back on.
So just something to watch for as we move to
the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Speaking of the end of the season, it is a poddust,
but I believe died more games for the Braves. Let
me yeah, Night Moore games left for the Braves, and
I believe that. You know, the Braves will be officially
eliminated from the playoffs, either they already have or they
will be at some point this week, But that doesn't
mean there's still is a few things to watch out for,
including tomorrow night with the Braves hitting Detroit for the
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and hel Foe for the second time this year. More
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Speaker 1 (28:30):
So Steven, the Braves will be going to Detroit. It
would likely it, just to be honest, what's more than
like which I would almost gear at tee going to
be the last meaningful games of the season before the
Braves they're played a team to the Tigers, who are
still looking for playoff positioning. The Braves themselves are gonna
be facing Charlie Bourton tomorrow night. You're going to see
some opportunity for the Braves regulars to play. But while
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over this weekend you may see that one day that
you're going to start seeing is probably a bit more
of the WJA the other days such as that getting starts,
Kenny Moore, idids and things like that, Things are gonna
wind down and wind out quickly as we would really
want to, you know, see, you know these you know
more than you think these regulars end on a healthy,
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good note. Now that also is gonna be in the
light up every day. But with that being said, it's
gonna be fun to see Charlie board once again. But
what really stands out to Steven Talbert? What are the
what are two things that if this occurs, the season's
gonna end on an even better note than right now?
I anticipate What are two things that stand out to
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you over the next week plus.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, so obviously the Brothers are playing the Tigers this weekend,
last road game, last road series of the year, and
Charlie Moodon obviously got traded to the Tigers. He's not
been good with the Troy He's got like a six
cra since being traded over. So a lot of our
podcast has kind of latched onto the Tigers to kind
of be their team in the postseason. I will probably
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join them in that. I kind of do want the
Tigers to make a run. But yeah, Morton has not
been good and the Braves will face him Friday. It
is gonna be issue. So the Braves are nine games
back in the Wild Card. There's nine games left, so obviously,
the next time the Braves lose or the Mets win,
they will officially be eliminated from the postseason. I know
people thought obviously the Braves were actually, you know, for
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all intentsive purposes eliminated a long time ago. But they
will mathematically be eliminated the next time the Mets win
or the Braves lose. So yeah, we're We've been in
storyline mode for a long time. What I'm looking for
for the rest of the year is I want to
see every Spencer Strider start he's gonna pitch in this series.
I want to see what he looks like, what adjustments
he continues to make every Hurston Waldrup start is interesting
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to me. I watched them all. You know, Chris Sale,
every time I watch him, I just think, damn, I
wish he hadn't got hurt because I think that guy
would have won SAT Young again. He's been that good,
better era this year than he had last year when
he won the award. So and obviously you just want health.
I just want a Kunya Olsen, you know, Akunyan Olsen.
Both getting here in the last you know, part of
the September, last part of the last couple of weeks
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is awesome to see those guys can now go into
an offseason just you know, fully regular, you know, healthy,
and can get set up for a strong twenty twenty six.
But yeah, I just mainly health. Seeing the guys who
are still pitching. I want to see what Joey Wentz
looks like, we Waltrip looks like. But I'll tell you
what I'm most interested in. And and Brad and I
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talked about this a couple of days ago, and Scott
and Brad actually talked about this last night as well.
If the Braves are gonna do any sort of sending
off of Brian Snitker of the last week and they're
home the last week. That announcement needs to come, like
in the next day or two that he's retiring, and
then you can do a whole week of fans come
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to the park to see Brian Snicker's last games. You
can do a whole Brian Snicker appreciation week. You know,
all the stuff that you would kind of expect for
somebody who's been in the organization for like fifty years,
you would expect some sort of send off. It is
going to piss some fans off if we get to
the off season and they just move on from Snitcher
and no one ever got a chance to like appreciate him,
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say bye to him. Like he's gonna piss some fans off.
I'm not gonna be personally pissed off, but I understand
people that would be, like, the dude's been in the
organization for fifty years, you know, we should have done
something for him during the season where you know, fans
could just you know, show their appreciation. I hope if
they are gonna move on from him, I hope, I
really hope they do it the right way. Send out
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that announcement in the next day, or two and let
the fans show their gratitude over the last week of
the season. We have not heard anything to that effect,
and maybe Brian Snicker isn't retiring at all, But if
he is, or if the Braves are not bringing him back,
I really hope they go about it the right way.
Don't just do it in the offseason and the guy
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doesn't get any fanfare like announce it now so the
guy can get like a week long like send off.
I think that's the right way to handle it. But
I say that to say, if they're going to do that,
that has to be happening. That has to happen like
the next two or three days, because once they get
back home, you know, that's it. That's the last those
the last six games of the year. So it's something
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to watch for the next couple of days.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that it's the right thing
to do. And you know, but it may be the
right thing to do, But I also think that there's
legitimate truth to the fact that Sticker may just not
have made his vind up yet. If he has it,
you can't force that. I'm with you one hundred and
fifty percent. But if he has it, you can't force
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that now on that Sabien. If he hasn't made his
bind up, it should not automatically be given that if
he wants to come back, he does come back with
the Braves.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And that's what I'm saying, is that, like, if the
Braves aren't going to bring him back regardless, and Alex
knows that right now. Alex is sitting in his office
right now, and he knows even if Brian's nicker wants
to come back, he knows whether or not he wants
him to come back. And that's what I'm saying. If
he doesn't want him to come back, if he is
one hundred percent in his mind, he knows the brains
are going to have a new manager next year, do
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the right thing by snit and get that word out
so that we can do a full week of like,
thank you for being in this organization for half a century,
winning a World series, you know, second most wins and
franchise like the guy deserves to send off. And I
hope if they already know, I hope they do it
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the right way.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And I hope they do know because it is the
timee bride sticker. You know, whether it be a retirement
or what have you. It is the time to make
a change, but you know, I don't want to. There's
spoilers there. You know, we'll have that to talk about
plenty the off season. But that type is cub But
that's a conversation for another time out there with you.
I really want to see how the top of the
order continues to work out, because I think as of
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right now, there's a very good chips the top three
of your order, it's subcombination are going to be profar
Olsen as well as that's all back by Bodwin and Riley.
Whatever potential audition you could see there, Hassan Kim being
able to end the season on a good note I
think would be really good to see as well. So
Plinty to watch out for now what in the show
(35:12):
on a bit of a maybe surprising note or a
bit of a you know, random note, if you will,
But I think that it certainly is worth it. There
was another announcement today we were talking about, you know,
Brian Sticker, you know, over the end of the year
with with his potential retirement announcement or a send off
for him long time Los Angeles Dodgers, A Clayton Kershaw
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announced his retirement earlier today. And I know that this
is a Braves podcast, but this is also Clayton Kershaw,
who legitimately is one of the best pitchers and ambasadors
for the game that I can remember in at least
in my lifetime and probably in the history of the game.
Steven thirteen games against the Braves in his current least
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regular season, two point four ninety two strikeouts away from
one hundred, but I believe he was six of would
against Atlanta. But the thing that I'm getting at is
is that, you know, for Braves fans who are able
to witness for the better part of a decade Smokes
Glavet at Maddocks, we're talking about Kershaw arguably probably definitely
had a better career than any of them, at least
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at his peak. What a tremendous career. It just hats
off to a give one of the perhaps maybe the
best picture I've seen it by lifetime.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Kershaw was very good. Uh, he was the best picture
probably of his generation. Schuerger and Verlander probably have something
to say about that. And I'm probably forgetting somebody. He's
gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer. I don't
know that I would say he was ever better than Maddox.
I think I think Maddox gets slept on. I think
Maddox is like one of the top ten baseball players ever,
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not just pictures like go look at like Greg Maddox's
fangrafts or Baseball Reference pace. It's one of the craziest things.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I actually spend like hours on that pitch time just
marveling at the nonsense, the craziness that is Greg Maddox's career.
But yeah, Kershaw is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
You know, he's got some like counting numbers like wins
and stuff that we're not gonna see again for a
long time, like when this generation in, Like you know,
Kershaw suresier sale. When these guys retire, you know we're
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gonna go along, like Kershaw has over two hundred wins
and listen, picture wins is whatever. I don't care about it,
but a lot of people do. You're not gonna see
a picture with two hundred wins again for a long time,
like once this generation of guys retires, because in the
new age of baseball, nobody cares about Pitcher wins, so
they don't, they don't go for them, they don't accumulate
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the way they used to. So yeah, first ballot Hall
of Famer retiring today today. Did he pitch, Well, I don't.
I don't even know the last time he pitched, but
he's got a career ara a in like the mid twos.
I mean, it's just absurd how good this guy was
for so long. Again, was probably at one point was
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very clearly the best picture on the planet. And so yeah,
hats off to Clayton Kershaw. Job all done, one entire
career with one team. You don't see that much anymore. No, obviously,
brace fans know with Shipper Jones, how that's kind of
a special thing, Derek Jeter the Yankees, and now Kershaw
with the Dodgers. An entire career with one team, so
even not alone, it's just something to kind of applaud
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and yeah, enjoy retirement, Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
And I agree with you. You know, I probably misspoke
there in terms of I think that you could make
a case easily that Greg Bennix had the better career.
Yout their peaks probably aren't comparable.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, his peak, Kershaw's peak is as good as anybody's
peaking in baseball history.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, and that's the point that I'm getting at the
fact that you're sitting here comparative to the likes of
a great benex It's just the kid. I know that
the Dodgers have been arrival in a brace country. Don't
like the Dodgers, but maed just Clayton. Clayton Kershaw had
one of the rare characteristics and I think one of
the biggest copy of it you could give to a
pitcher would he pitched during his prime? That was one
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of the most most see games during the week that
you had to be able to see. And with Vin
Scully was old the bike colleague his games, that made
it even better. So hats off to a great career
for Clayton Kershaw, obviously a well deserved you know what,
the greatest ever to take the veiled in a clear
first ballot Hall of Favor. Steven, do you have anything
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else as we wrap up this edition of the Heber
Territory Podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
No, you know, we were looking through some of our
numbers for September and the downloads that we get on
these episodes are just insane, especially when the Braves suck like.
You guys have just been awesome to us. And I
know I've said it a bunch lately, but I am
very we are very grateful, Like it is really it
is really cool for us to see that you guys
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still very much enjoy the show, that you're still responding
to the show, interacting with the show, still got a
ton of comments on YouTube and stuff. So just a
big hats off to you. You know, nobody know, this
is not the season any anybody, any any of us,
any of you guys wanted, but you know, it happens.
This is part of sports, This is part of being
a fan. So some years just don't go your way
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and that makes the years where it does go your
way that much more special, right, you know, twenty twenty
one's are special because twenty twenty fives are possible and
that's you know, that's that's how sports go sometimes. So
but we appreciate the support. It's been really really strong,
and we appreciate you guys quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And I can tell you this with the season, you know,
it ended a while ago, but when the off season starts,
that's gonna that's gonna get us rejuvenated. Gauzette that can
break down and in just every eight I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I can't wait to get to the off season and start.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
How can this phrase team get back to where we
can talk about wins instead of getting excited potentially about
what could happen, but what's going on all the field?
How ready to get back being excited about what happens
all the field? And it may be months away, but
it's what you do in those months leading up to
would your backplay beating games that's going to make them
beatingful for as long as you hope that they will be.
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You can find myself at stats Sac on Twitter, slash x,
Steven Tobert at the Underscore Outliers Hamit Territory across all
forms of social media, part of the foul Territory family
of podcasts. Thanks for bearing with me today. I'm gonna
go get some medicine hopefully feel better. Thank you as
always to Steven Tolber to give the best podcast partner
in the game, and also to Brian Rowland as well
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as Scott Colvid. We'll be back with you later this week.
Until next time, go braves, We'll talk to you. Can
get sued here on The Hammer Territory podcast
Welcome on and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My
name is Sean covid to Hope. Wherever you are and
wherever you were listed, and you were having a great
week so far. It's at weeks are more fun when
they're filled with braves wins, and that's what we've been
able to see. Mendelson home runs, the offense, having fun,
just an absolute offensive outburst in our nation's capital. My
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name is Sean Comen is always here with my podcast
partner Steven Tober, and I will put the disclover out there.
I have not one hundred percent tonight. Please forgive the
voice and for that reason, I'm gonna let my podcast
partner take the raids. One of the best when it
comes to cover the braves, Steven tom Good to always
do these with you, sir, Hope you bid well?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good CD again, what's up, buddy. For those who don't know,
behind the scenes, our man Sean has been very sick
the last week. And I mean this is like a
Michael Jordan flu game type situation we have going on
right now. My guy's just gutting it out. I mean,
just a pros pro you know.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's like, I mean, this is why is the best
podcast partner the year?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And this is like this is inspirational movie type stuff. Rocky,
you know, Seabiscuit and Sean Coleman. You know, those are
kind of the big three right now that I can
think of. So, yeah, it has been a fun week. Well,
it's been a fun week as long as you're not
hoping the Braves lose games. I guess there are that
there is that segment of fans that we're really hoping
(01:52):
for losses. The Nationals bad just turned out to be
substantially worse than the Braves bad. The Nationals, God bless
the Nationals.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
They fired everybody early in the season because the rebuild
has not been going well, and you can kind of
see the evidence of that. They not only lost to
the Braves this weekend, they got demolished in a way
that the Braves haven't demolished really anybody in a long time. So,
and the Braves still have three more games with the Nationals,
by the way, So yeah, the chances the Braves having
like one of these top two or three picks, or
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at least top two or three odds of having a
top pick are probably gone. You know, you win five
in a row this late, it's gonna change those. So
Braves are more than likely going to be in like
the five four or five six range in terms of
the lottery odds. They can still get a top pick.
Obviously it's a lottery. But but yeah, it's been fun
watching the Braves hit Herdson Waldrip had a pretty decent
(02:45):
start after a rough one that Brad and I were
in person for last Friday against the against the Astros.
So but yeah, buddy, it's good to be back on
with you. You're an inspiration to an entire country and
we love you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I appreciate the kind of words. But of course, yeah, no,
it's it's been fun to see you know again. I
know Brad Scott talked about it last night. You don't
want to take it out of context. There is very
little significance of the Braves, you know, playing well right
now on the offense doing what it is, especially against Washington.
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But at the very least it is relevant. You'd much
rather be playing goodball in the season, especially in the
season where you haven't played good ball, than the alternative.
But it's been a month or so. It's been the
past four or five weeks where it's the news, the
news nuggets that come down the pipe that carried more
value a lot of times than what we're seeing on
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the field. And once again, while not official as of yet,
friend of the show girl vedic, he let it be
know today that more than likely, John Carlos Laura, a
name that you know has really gained recognition familiarity in
Braves country over the past few years, a name who
I felt, you know some at least myself. You know,
(04:02):
I'm not gonna act like I'm I'm a prospect guy
by any means, but he was a name I was
wanting to watch for. He was Dinni here for winters
before Dinnier for Winter has had that outstanding's pre trading.
Because of how good at times Laura looked last year
and he's looked good this year, the Braves are going
to call up John Carlos Laura to be a member
of the bullpen basically over the final stretch of the season.
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And this isn't just another column. This isn't, in my opinion,
a call up in which you know, like we saw
with Hayden Harris, where Harris has just been so good
at the minters he deserved the opportunity to be called
up John Carlos. Laura being called up is significant because
this is someone who truly has the potential to be
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a staple in the Braves bullpen. He has that type
of upside you know we talk about over the past
fifteen years, Craig Kimbrel a, J Mintor. I'm not saying Laura,
there's an overwhelming chance he's going to be at that level.
Definitely not a Kiber level, But there hasn't been many
any prospects, relief prospects at least that have had as
(05:07):
much noise around them as Laura has other than the
two days that I mentioned it. That's the level of
arm that we're looking at with one of the best
sliders in baseball, and it's finally going to be awesome
to see him in the Atlanta bullpea in the Coby days.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yep. So obviously we're not prospect guys. We don't pretend
to be prospect guys. We listen to people smarter than
us when it comes to this stuff. But as guys
get closer and closer and get to this level where
there are very likely going to be contributors, that's kind
of where we start, you know, jumping in and learning
about these guys. And so we've spent the last probably,
i don't know, two months learning about Laura, just as
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he's gotten more and more name recognition. He was in
Triple A, and obviously, once you're in Triple A, really
even in Double A with this organization, you're one call
away from being in the majors. And so, you know,
we've all just kind of been paying attention to Laura
the last few months, and it was weird. It's a
little weird to me that they're waiting this late to
call him up like we thought we might see him
(06:05):
when rosters expanded in September, just to see what he's got.
Obviously the Braves wanted him to develop a little more
in the minors, but yeah, calling a guy up with
like ten games left in the season is a little weird,
but you know, it's better than never. Do you want
to see what he looks like in the majors. He's
a very interesting prospect. If you don't know, he's a
six to three right handed reliever. He's a pure relief prospect.
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Twenty two years old is still very young. I think
he's rated as I think he's in the top fifteen
depending on which scouting service, which prospect ranking you look at,
So he's one of the Braves better prospects. The dude
throws one hundred miles an hour, though he sits like
ninety eight ninety nine, one hundred. He's got a live,
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live arm, but he's got a wipeout slider. His slider
is one of the best pitches in the Braves entire
farm system. He throws at like eighty nine nine emails
an hour. It's got I think it's It's been recorded
multiple times this year at over three thousand RPMs. In
terms of spin rate. It is a devastating pitch and
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when he has his command going, those two pitches together
are lethal. He misses a ton of bats. The problem is,
and this is not you know, this is not specific
to him. He doesn't always know where it's going. And
the command and the control is certainly his biggest thing.
He you know, he walks a number of people and
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has all year, and I'm sure that's what's kept him
in the miners. Like listen, if this guy was walking
three per nine inning, he would have been in the
majors a long time ago. That's kind of his thing.
But if you have control problems in the miners, once
you get to the majors, they usually get exasperated exacerbated,
So it's probably gonna go poorly a little bit. We're
(07:54):
this is gonna be kind of a little bit like
Diddier Fuintes, where it's probably throwing him to the wolves
a little bit just to see what he looks like.
It's not as bad as Diddy or Fuintees because Fintes
was literally nineteen years old when it happened to him.
He's twenty, you know, Laura's twenty two. He's spent a
substantial amount of time in Ginett. You can justify the
call up. And the arm is so special, you know,
(08:16):
you can see why the Braves want to see what
they've got, and so I'm curious to see how much
run he gets. Again, the Braves have not confirmed this,
but you know Groov doesn't miss on this stuff. He's
pretty much batt in a thousand on all. Anytime he
reports this, it happens like the next day. So I
would expect by the time you are listening to this
that John Carlos Laura is either on the team or
(08:38):
there will be an announcement very shortly that he's going
to be on the team. But that's this is an
exciting one. This this is a really top end level
reliever prospect that, if he's good, could help the Braves
quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah. I mean, he's the type of arm that could
be a contributor not only to the Braves next year
when they're trying to win, but could even be a
potentially different smaky doll. You know, we get big bovits. Uh.
I know, I'm putting a lot know what will be
a twenty three year old next year, But that's the
level that we're looking at. And you know, it's not like,
you know, a Dazebel Hernandez. You know where his stuff's odd,
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which is more rare than it be. It's more rare
for Dazebel to be awed and locked in than it
is for him to struggle. He struggled quite a bit
this year, Carlos Laura. If he's locked in, that slider
legitimately could instantly be one of the best breaking pitches
of a really word in baseball. Like he is that good.
I know that. You know it's a diamond, does it? Now?
(09:31):
When it comes to relievers who throw near one hundred
miles an hour and can flash a highly effective slider.
John Carlos Laura can have one of the best of
the best, Like that's the level that he could be
at in time, not saying it's going to be instantaneous,
but just saying that this could be a different smaking arm.
And we talk about the Braves being able to find
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internal sources of different spaking contributions to a team that
in the years to come is going to look again
to content. John Carlos Laura is one of those type
of contributors and it's going to be good to see
what he could do again. It's going to be the
control that really matters. But one thing that I celebrate
with this particular prospect for the Braves is with how
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much the Braves push these arms to be starters, to
be starters, to be starters, and push them in terms of,
you know, elevating them through the bottle league system quickly.
With Laura, they took a different path. They went with
what he was successful with, which was pitching down the bullpit,
and it really seems to have clicked with him and
it could pay big dividends both next year and potentially
for years to come.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, and that is a very good point. Like this
guy has been a pretty much a pure reliever prospect
his entire career with the brain like they don't there's
no there's no talk about being a starter. I know
at some point in Gwinnett, I think they they stretched
him out a little bit. But there's no one that
we've talked to that thinks this guy is going to
be a major league starter. He just has two pitches,
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and you know, the big thing when you have two
pitches is that you you pretty much have to be
a reliever. It's very difficult to go through an order
more than one time with two pitches, and that's kind
of the baseline for being a starter in the majors
is three acceptable pitches somewhere. So, yeah, he'll be a reliever.
The question is gonna be how good of a reliever?
And listen, I'm not saying it's open tryouts for the
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Braves bullpen next year, but there's definitely spots available in
the Braves bullpen next year. And if Laura comes out
and impresses, even if it's only for a week sample,
you know, he's only gonna be up for ten days.
That means he's automatic. He's gonna be on the forty
man when they make the move tomorrow. Obviously they got
to make a forty man move to get him on
the forty mans. And once you're on the forty man,
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you get an invite to spring training. You're a part
of the mix now, Like getting on the forty man
is a huge part of a prospects life cycle. And
so if he does indeed get called up tomorrow, that
means he's now on the forty man, So you know
he'll be in spring training next year. He is in
the mix to be a contributor for the bullpen next
year if that does indeed happen. So it's a big deal,
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And that's kind of why some of us wanted to
see it earlier, just to kind of get him in
the rotation of possibilities for the bullpen next year, because
somebody with this type of arm needs to be at
least looked at that we need to see at least
what he's got what he doesn't have. Maybe it's abundantly
clear this guy belongs in the miners. Still, he's only
twenty two years old. It's not that big a deal.
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If he needs to go back to the miners, and
if that's where he needs to start next year, that's fine.
But let's see it. Let's see what he is, what
he's got, what he looks like, how far away he is.
It's all good, I think. I hope the Braids had
done this a couple of weeks ago, so we got
a larger sample. But better late than never. I'm excited
to see the kid.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And the thing is also about the Braids Boolpit with
aired Bubber, Pierce Johnson and Joe him it is between
those three. I've already got twenty five million combined in
commitments to your bullpen next year. Now those are three
five arms for the six the eighth, but you don't
have a proven closer. You still have questions about your
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back end. That's a lot to be committed to next
year's wullpion with. There's still be this many questions outstanding
about it. So you need to find some answers, and
you need to find some answers from cheap sources, which
means internally, and that is hopefully John Carlos Laura work
it out. It's gonna be awesome to see I again,
know that you know what, we get to see it
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a few times. But when you see that slider, when
you see that fastball slider commodation at work, it's going
to turn your head and it's going to be good
to see and hopefully we'll get to see it be
successful in many big situations as we go through the
next several years in Atlanta. But speaking of moves, speaking
of roster editions, that was not the only roster addition today.
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And when you look at the grand scheme of things
over the past six weeks, the Braves have been highly
active and now have a pretty crowded roster. Me and
Steven will break that down a bit more here in
just a moment, after a word from our partners.
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Speaker 1 (14:57):
So Steven, you not the only move was made today. Er,
excuse me. Let me back this up real quick. It's
actually a move that was not made today because again
it's not been made official as of yet. But the
significance of that is because since that move has not
been made official, it is going to be official more
than likely tomorrow. An official move that the Braves did
make today is they claimed former San Francisco Giant infield
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prospect Brett Wisely. He is now on the braves forty
bed roster. To make move to make room for him,
the Braves added Aaron Bubber to the sixty man, I
l And if you've ever really dived into and I
know several Braves Country like to do this, and always
it always makes me smile with how intelligent many members
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of Braves Country are because they know what they're talking
about from looking and doing their own research, because they
just love baseball so much. What I'm getting at is, though,
is that there are many moving parts when it comes
to this Brase forty bed roster number one in terms
of the people who were currently on it, but perhaps
even more significant is the people who are not currently
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on it, who are on that sixty day I l
and are going to clearly be back of the forty
bad roster. What's the seasons? We'll get that into that
in just a moment. Do you see any significance? Did
did the addition of Brett wisely turn your head? It
seems to be a bit redundant with other members that
we have on the forty band roster, but for somewhat
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top prospect with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, So the Braves love themselves a light hitting utility infielder.
I mean this is right out of the like NICKI Lopez,
Nick Allen, Videl Bruhan Luke Williams mold of can play shortstop,
can play second, can play third. He's left handed. He
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throws right handed, but he hits left handed. He's still
only he's still relatively young. He's only twenty six. He
was a top he wasn't at like a top, top
tier prospect with the Giants. I think he topped out it,
like I think he come in. Came in when you're
like sixteenth on their top thirty, so like a reasonable prospect,
like somebody who was gonna be in the majors. He
can't hit. He's got a career sixty four WRC plus.
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He's got very little power. He doesn't have much speed.
His main value is he can play shortstop, second base,
third base. He could probably play first base in a pinch. Honestly,
he could probably play a little outfield if you if
you gave him a chance to, Like, he is a
utility guy, and he is taking up a forty man
spot now. And this is why this is significant. If
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this was just a minor league guy, we would never
talk about him. But once you get to the point,
and we were just talking about this with Laura, once
you get to the point where you're on the forty man.
You're taking up a forty man rush spot. What you
do and how well you do it is now a
significant part of the equation because there's only there's only
forty of those spots available. And you know, the Braves
already have Nick Allen, They've got Videl Brahan, They've got
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you know, obviously they got Hasung Kim. Now we don't
know what's gonna happen with Hasung Kim because obviously he's
got this player option lingering out there. But now they
have this army of like backup utility type infielders. I
can't imagine all of them are gonna stay around. That's
too what's way too many, uh, you know, offensively challenged
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middle endfielders to have on your forty man. Somebody's getting
bumped at some point. Obviously a lot of that will
happen in the offseason. But he's just a guy kind
of There's not a lot of excitement here. There's not
much to get worked up about. Hassan Kim is obviously
the main priority at shortstop right now is everybody hopes
he's back. But if he's not back, the Braves have
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this small little army of guys who can't hit, who
can who can play middle endfield positions.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, and it's good to see. It's probably tryouts. That's
probably what it is. I mean, you know, I think
at the end of the day, Nick Allould probably you know,
makes sense to keep because of all those guys that
even Rodacho Alvarez in there, though, I think they have
about rely option left these latter hitting utility infielders. Of
those guys, when you look at that group of you know,
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not good enough to be an MBLEB starter, but you know,
could offer value off of bitch type talents, which of
those guys has the most added value of what skill?
And that's Nick Allen's defense. So at the end of
the day, it's probably just the brains getting a glip
of what these guys could offer next year. But to
your point, more than likely multiple of these guys are
gonna be bumped in time.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Because I'll say this, because you just met a good point.
Brat Wisely has a has a minor league option next year. Yep,
Vital Bruhan, Luke Williams, and Nick Allen all are out
of options. That might be part of the calculus here
is that Wisely actually has a minor league option, Nacholl
Alvrez has a minor league option. The other three guys
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do not have minor league options for next year.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, so that makes sense, you know, depindion of what
the Braves are looking to do it again. We know
that the Braves have been active. You know, they've done
this before when it comes to off seasons. They're just
doing it early now because there are chances of this
being I mean, equal season happened early. They made it
to where they've added people early in the off season
and wound up asidating them for assignment as time went on.
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So you see this, It's just happened a bit earlier
this time around. But it does need to be mentioned
the amount of names that now are building up on
that sixty man il and who's going to be added back.
I mean we're talking about Aaron Bummer, We're talking about
Ajsmis Shotter, We're talking about Jake Frailey now Spitcher swelling back, right,
Donald Lopez, Austin Riley, I know of for Guinea names.
But the point that I'm getting at is that are
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those are names that you're obviously hoping are going to
be back healthy better than ever, when they come back
in time, you know, in the in the next month
or so, so a lot of these names that were
you may look at the forty band roster for the
brainsdown and be like, why is this guy on the
forty band roster? Well, it's simply to fill it out
for right now with these other guys who are going
to who are already being paid for next year come back.
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Those type of names that you question me on the
forty bid roster, they'll be off by the end. But
it's no small factor into the off season that the
brains are going to have to have many changes to
this forty bid roster initially, not to mention how they're
going to create space with that forty bid roster four
editions as we go through the off season.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, it's a mechanism some fans may not know about.
But the sixty day il goes away once the season ends.
I think I think it goes away. Can't remember it
goes away in October November, but I think it's after
the World Series. But the sixty diel goes away, and
the sixty il is the is the place that teams
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put players when obviously they're going to be out for
a long time, but they want to clear a forty
man roster spot so they can add somebody who's healthy back. Well, obviously,
the the you know what happens is at the end
of the year, the sixty day il goes away, so
all of those guys who got taken off of the
four forty man roster have to be put back on
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by the time we get to the off season. So
I'm just gonna go through the names so everybody knows
because it's it's actually incredible the number of guys the
Braves have on the sixty day al. So it's Jake Frayley,
it's Austin Riley, Sean Murphy, it's a j Smith Shawber,
It's Spencer Swollenbach, Ronaldo Lopez, Joejamenez, Grant Holmes, and Aaron Bummer.
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And in order to get Laura on the forty man tomorrow,
I would not be surprised if they put another guy
on the sixtyd al tomorrow. So that's a bunch of guys,
like ten guys that are on the sixtyda AL that
are gonna be added back to the forty man roster
when the season ends. So and obviously the Braids will
have guys just naturally come off the forty when the
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season's over. Marcel A Zuna will come off the forties.
No longer on the roster, he's a free agent. Rossillo
Gleasiers will come off the forty he's a free agent.
Sandy Leone, who got added when Sew Murphy got hurt,
will come off the roster because he's a free agent.
And then there'll be the offseason moves where like guys
get non tender. Jake Freiley might get non tendered. Eli
White might get non tendered. Jared Kelnick, these are guys
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the Braves have under team control, but they might choose
to let them go into free agency because they just
want better things for that roster spot. Jared Kelnick, I
think is a pretty pretty clear, you know, probably gonna
be non tendered at some point this offseason. So yeah,
we're not gonna do a full forty man dive tonight.
We've got the off season for that and we'll have
plenty of time to do that. But we did just
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want to point out the number of players the Brave
have on the sixtyd al. It's gotten pretty much the
double digits at this point, all of them have to
be added back at the beginning of the offseason, and
then you have to actually if you want to make
any sort of moves, then you have to clear a
space there to make moves to add guys to the forties.
So it does get tight in the offseason with a
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nose sixty di al, you do have to put everyone
back on. And so we're gonna see some moves early
where the Braves are making roster moves. The Braves are
clear and non tendering guys, cutting guys, releasing guys because
they need the forty men spots because all of those
guys have to be put back on when the season's over.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And it is not a far fetched statement to make
or prediction to make. I feel that those group of
names that you just mentioned, that group itself could be
a source of twenty to twenty five wins above replacement
next year for this Braves team. Like you hope that
that could be the case. The Braves need for it
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to be the case, if not more than that. But
that's another concerned going into the off season that you
have so many of those significant names currently on the
forty or currently not on the forty mid roster. They're
on the sixty deil who are going to go into
the off season, you hope, getting healthier than when they
got injured, obviously, but who likely are not going to
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have just a fully healthy offseason. Sub will more than others.
But that is a big thing, and it feels like
that it's rit swashed repeat once again for like a
third or four straight off season. One of the biggest
contributing factors to the Braves getting back to where they
would get he is returning to hell for their for
many of their internal options like Austin Bridley and others,
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So that that is no small development is monitoried, not
only those names coming back over the roster, but them
getting healthy in state healthy.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah. I mean listen, Austin Riley and Sean Murphy alone
have both been five, four or five win players in
their career. I mean that could be you know, that's
eight ten war sitting on the sixty al right there.
Then you had Spencer Swallenbach, you had Ronaldo Lopez. I mean,
these are guys who were substantial contributors. You know, Grant Holmes,
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Chris Sale was on the sixty dayl It just came
off and Obviously, Spencer Strider spent the last year on
the sixty day because he was recovering from elbow surgeries.
So yeah, the brains, the brains have had massive, massive
pieces of their what they need to be contributors, guys
who they depend on we're just not playing and it
isn't an It's actually an unbelievable amount of guys on
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the sixty al this season. At some point, probably in October,
when there's no more Braves, I'll go through and actually
count how many players the Braves put on the sixty
al at some point this season, because it is absurd.
And that's what made me think of it tonight to
talk about was obviously they put Jake Freeley on. Now
they did that to clear a roster spot. It's so
close to the end of the season. He's probably not
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that hurt, but they did it to they needed the
roster spot. But it made me think all of these
guys have to get back on the forty man when
the off season starts, So the Braids are going to
have some maneuvering to do, to say the least, even
before we get into what they do for the off season,
just to get to the offseason, the Braids are gonna
have some moves to make to clear up some forty
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man spots for all their injured guys being put back on.
So just something to watch for as we move to
the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Speaking of the end of the season, it is a poddust,
but I believe died more games for the Braves. Let
me yeah, Night Moore games left for the Braves, and
I believe that. You know, the Braves will be officially
eliminated from the playoffs, either they already have or they
will be at some point this week, But that doesn't
mean there's still is a few things to watch out for,
including tomorrow night with the Braves hitting Detroit for the
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series opener against the Tigers. They'll face a familiar frid
and hel Foe for the second time this year. More
of that in just a moment after another word for
more partners.
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Speaker 1 (28:30):
So Steven, the Braves will be going to Detroit. It
would likely it, just to be honest, what's more than
like which I would almost gear at tee going to
be the last meaningful games of the season before the
Braves they're played a team to the Tigers, who are
still looking for playoff positioning. The Braves themselves are gonna
be facing Charlie Bourton tomorrow night. You're going to see
some opportunity for the Braves regulars to play. But while
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over this weekend you may see that one day that
you're going to start seeing is probably a bit more
of the WJA the other days such as that getting starts,
Kenny Moore, idids and things like that, Things are gonna
wind down and wind out quickly as we would really
want to, you know, see, you know these you know
more than you think these regulars end on a healthy,
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good note. Now that also is gonna be in the
light up every day. But with that being said, it's
gonna be fun to see Charlie board once again. But
what really stands out to Steven Talbert? What are the
what are two things that if this occurs, the season's
gonna end on an even better note than right now?
I anticipate What are two things that stand out to
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you over the next week plus.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, so obviously the Brothers are playing the Tigers this weekend,
last road game, last road series of the year, and
Charlie Moodon obviously got traded to the Tigers. He's not
been good with the Troy He's got like a six
cra since being traded over. So a lot of our
podcast has kind of latched onto the Tigers to kind
of be their team in the postseason. I will probably
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join them in that. I kind of do want the
Tigers to make a run. But yeah, Morton has not
been good and the Braves will face him Friday. It
is gonna be issue. So the Braves are nine games
back in the Wild Card. There's nine games left, so obviously,
the next time the Braves lose or the Mets win,
they will officially be eliminated from the postseason. I know
people thought obviously the Braves were actually, you know, for
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all intentsive purposes eliminated a long time ago. But they
will mathematically be eliminated the next time the Mets win
or the Braves lose. So yeah, we're We've been in
storyline mode for a long time. What I'm looking for
for the rest of the year is I want to
see every Spencer Strider start he's gonna pitch in this series.
I want to see what he looks like, what adjustments
he continues to make every Hurston Waldrup start is interesting
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to me. I watched them all. You know, Chris Sale,
every time I watch him, I just think, damn, I
wish he hadn't got hurt because I think that guy
would have won SAT Young again. He's been that good,
better era this year than he had last year when
he won the award. So and obviously you just want health.
I just want a Kunya Olsen, you know, Akunyan Olsen.
Both getting here in the last you know, part of
the September, last part of the last couple of weeks
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is awesome to see those guys can now go into
an offseason just you know, fully regular, you know, healthy,
and can get set up for a strong twenty twenty six.
But yeah, I just mainly health. Seeing the guys who
are still pitching. I want to see what Joey Wentz
looks like, we Waltrip looks like. But I'll tell you
what I'm most interested in. And and Brad and I
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talked about this a couple of days ago, and Scott
and Brad actually talked about this last night as well.
If the Braves are gonna do any sort of sending
off of Brian Snitker of the last week and they're
home the last week. That announcement needs to come, like
in the next day or two that he's retiring, and
then you can do a whole week of fans come
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to the park to see Brian Snicker's last games. You
can do a whole Brian Snicker appreciation week. You know,
all the stuff that you would kind of expect for
somebody who's been in the organization for like fifty years,
you would expect some sort of send off. It is
going to piss some fans off if we get to
the off season and they just move on from Snitcher
and no one ever got a chance to like appreciate him,
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say bye to him. Like he's gonna piss some fans off.
I'm not gonna be personally pissed off, but I understand
people that would be, like, the dude's been in the
organization for fifty years, you know, we should have done
something for him during the season where you know, fans
could just you know, show their appreciation. I hope if
they are gonna move on from him, I hope, I
really hope they do it the right way. Send out
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that announcement in the next day, or two and let
the fans show their gratitude over the last week of
the season. We have not heard anything to that effect,
and maybe Brian Snicker isn't retiring at all, But if
he is, or if the Braves are not bringing him back,
I really hope they go about it the right way.
Don't just do it in the offseason and the guy
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doesn't get any fanfare like announce it now so the
guy can get like a week long like send off.
I think that's the right way to handle it. But
I say that to say, if they're going to do that,
that has to be happening. That has to happen like
the next two or three days, because once they get
back home, you know, that's it. That's the last those
the last six games of the year. So it's something
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to watch for the next couple of days.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that it's the right thing
to do. And you know, but it may be the
right thing to do, But I also think that there's
legitimate truth to the fact that Sticker may just not
have made his vind up yet. If he has it,
you can't force that. I'm with you one hundred and
fifty percent. But if he has it, you can't force
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that now on that Sabien. If he hasn't made his
bind up, it should not automatically be given that if
he wants to come back, he does come back with
the Braves.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And that's what I'm saying, is that, like, if the
Braves aren't going to bring him back regardless, and Alex
knows that right now. Alex is sitting in his office
right now, and he knows even if Brian's nicker wants
to come back, he knows whether or not he wants
him to come back. And that's what I'm saying. If
he doesn't want him to come back, if he is
one hundred percent in his mind, he knows the brains
are going to have a new manager next year, do
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the right thing by snit and get that word out
so that we can do a full week of like,
thank you for being in this organization for half a century,
winning a World series, you know, second most wins and
franchise like the guy deserves to send off. And I
hope if they already know, I hope they do it
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the right way.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And I hope they do know because it is the
timee bride sticker. You know, whether it be a retirement
or what have you. It is the time to make
a change, but you know, I don't want to. There's
spoilers there. You know, we'll have that to talk about
plenty the off season. But that type is cub But
that's a conversation for another time out there with you.
I really want to see how the top of the
order continues to work out, because I think as of
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right now, there's a very good chips the top three
of your order, it's subcombination are going to be profar
Olsen as well as that's all back by Bodwin and Riley.
Whatever potential audition you could see there, Hassan Kim being
able to end the season on a good note I
think would be really good to see as well. So
Plinty to watch out for now what in the show
(35:12):
on a bit of a maybe surprising note or a
bit of a you know, random note, if you will,
But I think that it certainly is worth it. There
was another announcement today we were talking about, you know,
Brian Sticker, you know, over the end of the year
with with his potential retirement announcement or a send off
for him long time Los Angeles Dodgers, A Clayton Kershaw
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announced his retirement earlier today. And I know that this
is a Braves podcast, but this is also Clayton Kershaw,
who legitimately is one of the best pitchers and ambasadors
for the game that I can remember in at least
in my lifetime and probably in the history of the game.
Steven thirteen games against the Braves in his current least
(35:54):
regular season, two point four ninety two strikeouts away from
one hundred, but I believe he was six of would
against Atlanta. But the thing that I'm getting at is
is that, you know, for Braves fans who are able
to witness for the better part of a decade Smokes
Glavet at Maddocks, we're talking about Kershaw arguably probably definitely
had a better career than any of them, at least
(36:16):
at his peak. What a tremendous career. It just hats
off to a give one of the perhaps maybe the
best picture I've seen it by lifetime.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Kershaw was very good. Uh, he was the best picture
probably of his generation. Schuerger and Verlander probably have something
to say about that. And I'm probably forgetting somebody. He's
gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer. I don't
know that I would say he was ever better than Maddox.
I think I think Maddox gets slept on. I think
Maddox is like one of the top ten baseball players ever,
(36:50):
not just pictures like go look at like Greg Maddox's
fangrafts or Baseball Reference pace. It's one of the craziest things.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I actually spend like hours on that pitch time just
marveling at the nonsense, the craziness that is Greg Maddox's career.
But yeah, Kershaw is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
You know, he's got some like counting numbers like wins
and stuff that we're not gonna see again for a
long time, like when this generation in, Like you know,
Kershaw suresier sale. When these guys retire, you know we're
(37:22):
gonna go along, like Kershaw has over two hundred wins
and listen, picture wins is whatever. I don't care about it,
but a lot of people do. You're not gonna see
a picture with two hundred wins again for a long time,
like once this generation of guys retires, because in the
new age of baseball, nobody cares about Pitcher wins, so
they don't, they don't go for them, they don't accumulate
(37:42):
the way they used to. So yeah, first ballot Hall
of Famer retiring today today. Did he pitch, Well, I don't.
I don't even know the last time he pitched, but
he's got a career ara a in like the mid twos.
I mean, it's just absurd how good this guy was
for so long. Again, was probably at one point was
(38:02):
very clearly the best picture on the planet. And so yeah,
hats off to Clayton Kershaw. Job all done, one entire
career with one team. You don't see that much anymore. No, obviously,
brace fans know with Shipper Jones, how that's kind of
a special thing, Derek Jeter the Yankees, and now Kershaw
with the Dodgers. An entire career with one team, so
even not alone, it's just something to kind of applaud
(38:24):
and yeah, enjoy retirement, Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
And I agree with you. You know, I probably misspoke
there in terms of I think that you could make
a case easily that Greg Bennix had the better career.
Yout their peaks probably aren't comparable.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, his peak, Kershaw's peak is as good as anybody's
peaking in baseball history.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, and that's the point that I'm getting at the
fact that you're sitting here comparative to the likes of
a great benex It's just the kid. I know that
the Dodgers have been arrival in a brace country. Don't
like the Dodgers, but maed just Clayton. Clayton Kershaw had
one of the rare characteristics and I think one of
the biggest copy of it you could give to a
pitcher would he pitched during his prime? That was one
(39:02):
of the most most see games during the week that
you had to be able to see. And with Vin
Scully was old the bike colleague his games, that made
it even better. So hats off to a great career
for Clayton Kershaw, obviously a well deserved you know what,
the greatest ever to take the veiled in a clear
first ballot Hall of Favor. Steven, do you have anything
(39:23):
else as we wrap up this edition of the Heber
Territory Podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
No, you know, we were looking through some of our
numbers for September and the downloads that we get on
these episodes are just insane, especially when the Braves suck like.
You guys have just been awesome to us. And I
know I've said it a bunch lately, but I am
very we are very grateful, Like it is really it
is really cool for us to see that you guys
(39:49):
still very much enjoy the show, that you're still responding
to the show, interacting with the show, still got a
ton of comments on YouTube and stuff. So just a
big hats off to you. You know, nobody know, this
is not the season any anybody, any any of us,
any of you guys wanted, but you know, it happens.
This is part of sports, This is part of being
a fan. So some years just don't go your way
(40:09):
and that makes the years where it does go your
way that much more special, right, you know, twenty twenty
one's are special because twenty twenty fives are possible and
that's you know, that's that's how sports go sometimes. So
but we appreciate the support. It's been really really strong,
and we appreciate you guys quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And I can tell you this with the season, you know,
it ended a while ago, but when the off season starts,
that's gonna that's gonna get us rejuvenated. Gauzette that can
break down and in just every eight I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I can't wait to get to the off season and start.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
How can this phrase team get back to where we
can talk about wins instead of getting excited potentially about
what could happen, but what's going on all the field?
How ready to get back being excited about what happens
all the field? And it may be months away, but
it's what you do in those months leading up to
would your backplay beating games that's going to make them
beatingful for as long as you hope that they will be.
(41:04):
You can find myself at stats Sac on Twitter, slash x,
Steven Tobert at the Underscore Outliers Hamit Territory across all
forms of social media, part of the foul Territory family
of podcasts. Thanks for bearing with me today. I'm gonna
go get some medicine hopefully feel better. Thank you as
always to Steven Tolber to give the best podcast partner
in the game, and also to Brian Rowland as well
(41:26):
as Scott Colvid. We'll be back with you later this week.
Until next time, go braves, We'll talk to you. Can
get sued here on The Hammer Territory podcast
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