Waldrep’s Improvement Gives Braves Glimmer of 2026 Optimism

Brad Rowland and Scott Coleman co-host Episode 247 of the Hammer Territory Podcast. Topics include the Atlanta Braves winning four of the last five games, Hurston Waldrep taking a step forward, big weeks for Marcell Ozuna, Michael Harris, Drake Baldwin, and Matt Olson, intrigue with Joey Wentz, Jurickson Profar's awesome catch, the upcoming "showdown" with the New York Mets, and much more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to The Hammer's Territory podcast
is episode two four seven iryhost Brad rowand peppitts you
on a Sunday evening like a warm blanket, and I'm
joined by Scott Coleman. Scott, the Braves are winning? Question Mark,
how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Question Mark is the perfect way to start this episode
because it's been few and four between since the Braves
have taken four out of five and not just took
four out of five against the Marlins, but I mean
they whooped the Marlins butts this weekend. And obviously nobody
wants the Braves to be in the spoiler role these
final two months of the season, but they effectively ended

(00:58):
Miami season today, a team that was red hot coming
in and the Braves thumped them. And I know there's
probably pros and cons to winning baseball games right now,
but it still feels good, Man, like coming back to
win games or blowing out a division rival. It feels
good to win those games.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, we were It take people behind the curtain, the
four of us, myself, Scott, Sean and Steven, which form
this podcast. If you're new to the podcast, welcome. We
have four hosts We were kind of joking about that
offline today, like during the game, like is it good?
Are we celebrating? How do we all feel about this?
And I get it. Look, we are fully aware that
there are arguments in which losing is better. I'm not
saying that there aren't, but I mean, you know, we

(01:38):
can get it too. If you want to Scott like,
how many wins would it have to be where you'd
be worried that they're winning too much for watery purposes?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
If the Braves go like fifteen and four over their
next three weeks, we might be like, all right, guys,
calm down, you're not making the playoffs. Like everybody, everyone
take a breath, you know. But at the end of
the day, it's very unlikely that Atlanta was going to
catch the White Sox for the best odds to get
the number one pick. And I mean the difference between

(02:05):
having maybe the second or third best odds and the
fourth and fifth best odds. Sure, all things equally, you
would rather be the team with the second best odds
of getting the number one pick in the lottery. But
it's not something to lose sleepover. We'll see, there's still
talent on this team. It's not like the twenty fifteen
twenty sixteen Braves that were just totally void of talent

(02:26):
outside of like four or five players. There's still some
really good players on this roster. They're going to win
some games down the stretch. I think you just kind
of hope you find a happy balance of both winning
in the short term but also thinking long term and
getting yourself at least the best possible chance at getting
the best draft pick.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, and we'll do more of the numbers on the
lottery later, but the gaps are not that big as
far as like those slots, like you said, you mentioned it,
but just to put a number on it, they had
not won four out of five games, like they just
won four out of five against Miami. They had won
four out of five since June's seventeen through twenty one,
and which the season was kind of still alive then,
like we were still sweating games and kind of talking

(03:06):
about like one of the playoff odds and all that.
We were definitely still in that at that point in time.
I think they beat the Mets and maybe the Marlins
in that stretch of five games, so they wanted four
to five. I would say it's different now, just to
say this out loud, even with this stretch of wins,
the Braves are still twelve games out of the third
wild card spot with like one hundred teams in front
of them. So don't get don't get the ideas everybody.

(03:27):
It's it's still over. But it was still fun to win.
We'll talk about some of those results, and I think
you and I actually briefly mentioned this and the last
time we were together on this feed about how you know,
the Marlins had been red hot, as you just said,
but the Braves are still after this weekend, six games
behind the Marlins, despite having a run differential that's forty
two runs better than the Marlins. We were all kind

(03:50):
of talking about. I mean, look, the Marlins were a
great story for a while, and they I guess they
still are in relative terms, but everyone knew they were
playing above their heads, like the underlying metrics were not
kind to the Marlins projection as a potential playoff sleeper,
and the Braves kind of just say, you know what,
although there was a there was one game where as
we're get into the Braves, they have a kind of
like a triple A bottom half of the order one

(04:11):
day this weekend, but other than that, they do still
have a better roster than the Marlins. It's it's kind
of funny to watch that when we look at the Savings, well,
pitching wise, it's kind of dark sometimes right now, but
roster and to roster, they're still better than the Marlins.
They just have had a season from help. We all
know that.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh yeah, I mean, the Braves still have like the
come out of the locker room look and feel to them.
You know, like when you're watching high school football and
you watch one team come out of the locker room
and the other team comes out and you go, Wow,
that teem's a lot bigger and better and look like
they're gonna win by thirty tonight, the Braves still have that.
They still have a lot of names on the back
of those jerseys, and as we've talked about on the

(04:48):
show for a while, they're legitimate reasons to still tune
in and reasons to hope that things turn a certain way,
so the Braves have more optimism. In twenty twenty six,
we're gonna talk about Hirst Waldrop. Tonight, we were going
to talk about Joey Wentz, who's suddenly becoming like kind
of a thing for twenty twenty six. Perhaps, of course,
Jerks and Profar Michael Harris Auzzy Alby's there are reasons

(05:11):
and important key storylines here down the stretch, and sure,
if the Braves win, if the Braves lose, at the
end of the day, it doesn't matter all that much.
But there's still again, as we said, there's too much
talent here for the Braves to just completely die and go,
you know what, five and thirty eight down the stretch,
that's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, we've been accused of saying that everyone should sit,
and I get why we have fragrant kind of that way.
They do have to fill the roster out, like you
got to play guys, especially until you expand the roster
in three weeks from today. You can't sit everybody right now,
like you have to feel a team. So it's like,
you know, these guys are healthy, they're gonna play, and
you might. I don't think you was Drake Balwin and

(05:50):
there Drake Balwin. I think our colleague Shawn and Steven
has spent like half the show on Thursday talking about
Drake Bowin. It's an obvious storyline with Rookie of Year.
We won't do that again today, but he had another
good week and he's very good. That is arguably maybe
the lead storyline of of the last six seven weeks
of the season is like, will Drake whin the Rookie
of the Year, what's it gonna look like? We'll cover
that we already have, and we'll cover more, I promise.

(06:13):
One note that's not a Braves note, but because it
was all over the Braves universe this weekend, I wanted
to talk about it early in the show, and that's
that Jen Powell became the first female empire in a
reversing game in the history of Major League Baseball. A
cool story. Certainly, we wouldn't lead with it if if
she didn't do Braves games. But because it was like
you know, centered and every and it should have been.
It was a big deal. It was a Brave's related story.

(06:35):
It was in Atlanta. I don't have that much to
add on them that this is an awesome story and
long overdue, like this should have happened before, but it
was properly covered. She seems cool, like good attitude. She did,
she did a press conference. He seems like a cool person,
has a good background, Like she's like an artist background,
like all this weird stuff. And I use weird in
the endearing way, by the way, Like she's like a
real person and she's just now she's a majorly umpire.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
It's actually cool, really cool story. I know on Saturday,
every time they showed Jen big smile on her face,
and why wouldn't you have a big smile on your face?
Really cool to break through. A funny moment that I
think everyone kind of chuckled that the very first pitch
on Sunday when she was behind the plate was about
seven inches inside and she called strike one, and it's like, Okay,

(07:18):
she is going to fit in perfectly with all the
other umpires who seemingly drive us crazy every night. But yeah,
I mean, just a cool story. Good for her. I
mean it was you know, they showed in the stands,
a lot of female fans in the stands who had
umpire gear on, a lot of signs, big cheers when
she ran out on the field. Really cool moment, and
it was cool that the Braves got to be a

(07:39):
part of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Absolutely, I'm gonna get not much analysis to be had.
It was funny, but I know you're not. We're not.
We're not looking for at her. It's like, that's you're
gonna fit right in. It's gonna be great and the
cool thing. And the Braves were actually in the center
of the national discourse this weekend, by proxy, better than
last weekend where they were the center of the Bristol
madness that we talked about a week ago. Oh man,
that was a week ago today that we talked about

(08:01):
all the Bristol funds. So anyway, that was a cool
story from the weekend. You aren't tease it up, So
let's do this first. Hurston waldrip was probably the biggest
story from the weekend for the Braves, at least in
my opinion. Maybe you disagree with me, but it was
certainly up there. He had the best start of his
young career on Saturday, in the first of the two
doubleheader games on Saturday afternoon. I will raise my hand.

(08:24):
I was on a work thing this weekend and did
not get to watch every pitch of this, so I'm
gonna defer to you on some of this stuff. But
I got to see some of it and dive into
the numbers. He looks really good. Obviously the first round talent.
We all know that kind of a rocky start last
year in the major leagues, and we talked to Gore
Vidoc and others about his like transformation and tweaks and
things in the minor leagues, but it seems like he's

(08:45):
getting there and looked the part in a big way
on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I think with Hirston Waldrop, really the most encouraging thing
is that he made changes earlier this season and he's
now seeing pretty close to immediate results and everything from
his wind up and his delivery and his leg kick,
which is something I think gorev talked about maybe a
month ago. I know CJ on the broadcast talked about it.

(09:10):
But Hurston changed his leg kick and he's also started
working in a sinker and it sounds like the if
you look at like the pitch data and pitch tracking,
the sinker is legitimately a pretty solid pitch for Hurston
And that's notable because we know how nasty that splitter is.
But the fastball was really hittable and that was really

(09:33):
the one big thing other than command that was holding
Walter back these first couple of years as a professional.
So if Walterrip has a sinker then he can use
and presumably get a lot of ground balls and then
work in that splitter that's so nasty, and he feels
like he's getting more and more confident and comfortable with
his breaking pitches. There's something to build on here, and
he's obviously a really talented kid. Sometimes it just takes

(09:55):
a little bit to figure it out. But I mean,
I think the Braves have shown over the years that
their pitching development is as strong as pretty much anyone
with the track record of success they've seen the last
few seasons.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, he threw a bunch of strikes on saturdayted like,
just to say this out loud, it is the Marlins.
That's not a great offense. Small caveats supply there, but
the underlying stuff look good. You mentioned the splittered data
on stuff plus and all that this. Sorry, the splitter's
been awesome, always there. The sicker Dada was really encouraging
in that start. After the start, Waldrop credited Sean Murphy

(10:29):
for Actually I'd forgotten this that Murphy had done the
rehab assignment in Triple A and they worked together a
few times, and apparently Murphy encouraged him before the sinker,
which is cool. I know Sean Murphy haters will be
punching air right now. But he got some pretty outward
like unprompted credit from Waldrop, but no one asked him
about bad. It was like not out of side, out
of my mine, but kind of from the beat as
I'm sure, but that apparently was a big thing. And look,

(10:50):
you don't want to get carried away. But everything we're
talking about from now until the end of September is
geared toward the future. I mean realistically, so Waldrop being
of of course the first round pick, a young guy.
As we've covered at nauseum and well again later on
this podcast, you need eight, nine, ten starting pitchers. If
he's one of them for next year, you can be

(11:10):
confident he can throw major leagueinnings next season. That's a
big thing. And I'm not saying he's gonna be an ace,
Like no one should be getting carried away right now,
but having a guy that looks to be much more
ready than he was previously again high upside, arm, first
round pick, pedigree, et cetera. Like that's the biggest takeaway
for me. It's like, maybe he'll be a guy for
next year.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And that is not a small thing. Because we look
at this rotation right now, you have to figure that
aj Smith Shauber is going to miss pretty much all
of next season. We'll see about Grant Holmes, but the
fact that Holmes is opting to do some rehab instead
of surgery generally that leads towards an eventual surgery. But
I think, for in my mind at least, Grant Holmes

(11:52):
is not really going to factor into the twenty twenty
six equation. And if he does give you something great
Rinaldo Lopez, who knows those shoulder injuries are really scary,
we'll see what he can do, whether it's starting relieving
Chris Sale is awesome, but that guy gets out of
bed and you just hold your breath every single day
that he's not going to get hurt somehow with the
just weird, bizarre injuries he's picked up over his career.

(12:16):
Schwellenbach the broken bone in his elbow, we don't think
it's going to linger. But this is my way of saying,
if Waldrop can give the Braves a legitimate option next
season as a middle or back end starter, that is
huge for this team. They could really use it. He's
cost effective. I still think the Braves need to go
out and add one or two starting pitchers this winter.

(12:36):
But if Waltrip has a good finish to the season,
I think you can say, Okay, this is a guy
we can probably count on next season at least to
be in the mix for starts whenever the Braves need him.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Sixteen pitchers have started a game for the Braves this season.
It is August tenth. Now, granted, I will acknowledge it's
been a little bit of an outlier. But even when
things go well, your rotation, you're using eleven, twelve, thirteen
guys over the course of the full season. So as
we'll say one hundred times between now in April, you
need more than five, you need more than seven, you'd

(13:09):
even you'd probably need ten plus. And him being one
of those and being useful is great. And if he's
better than that, awesome. Maybe he'll be Schwellenbach. I'm not
saying it's gonna it's unlikely to happen, but maybe he'll
be a major league starter and looks great in the
spring and we're like, hey, he's the fifth guy next year. Cool.
That'd be awesome, But at a minimum, you can throw
him in a Miajor League game right now. He looks

(13:30):
ready for that, and that's that's a nice step forward.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yes, and that's something you could not say about Hirston
Waldrip even a couple months ago.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Correct, absolutely, all right. There is more to discuss from Saturday,
both game one and game two. We'll get to it.
But the one of the best catches you'll ever see
from Jerkson Profar, and we'll talk about that. We'll talk
about Michael Harris and all kinds of things. Marcelo Zuna
is mashing all of a sudden. More of that to
come in just one moment after a word from our partners, Okay, Scott.

(13:59):
Saturday game one, other than Waldrip, the Profar catch was wild,
and it's so funny because I think we all, basically
everyone that covers the Braves and that includes us, has
made fun of pro Far's defense in the last week
plus because it's been really bad. And then of course
you haven't play like that. And if you haven't seen it,
google it, look at all on social media. I'm sure

(14:20):
you'll find it very quickly. Profile makes this crazy catch.
I'll let you describe it. I thought it was funny
that it's like, well, could you really be that bad
on defense if he's doing that, I'm like, well, yes,
you still can. But it was an awesome play. Yeah,
it was truly like a full on I know web
gems are kind of gone now, they don't really do
those anymore, but that was a throwback web gym Profar.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Really, I mean a hell of a catch from Profar.
And even though there's that shorter wall in left field,
we really have not seen a ton of home run
robberies like that in the what decade the Truest Park
and sun Trust Park have been open. It's still fair
to say that Profar's defense is an issue. The eye
test degrees, the metrics agree, the data agree, But I mean,

(15:01):
just a hell of a catch, and I mean his
like from the waist up, Profar was hanging over the
ledge rob the home run. You know, there was a
couple good catches this year that came to mind. If
people were saying, was this the catch of the year
for the Braves. Michael Harris had a really good one
in center field, I think in Philadelphia. He had that

(15:21):
insane catch last year too in Philly, but he had
won Philly Akunya had the great one at the wall
against the Mets that was really good, so it's up there.
I think for my money it's probably the catch of
the year. But hey, good for jerks, and maybe he
listens to the podcast. We like to motivate around here,
and hey, more of that, please, and less of the
defensive blunders that have been a relatively common theme the

(15:43):
first month and a half.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, I still think Ronnie's throw is the defensive play
of the season for the Braves. Yeah, you agree, But
catch wise, I would probably inhere and look, we brought
us so quickly on the show last week, I would say,
what difference between Profar and his brand of shaky defense
and guys like Ozuna or Solaire is af Profar as

(16:05):
an athlete in the way that those guys are not.
Profar used to play shortstop in the big leagues. Like,
he's not fast, he can't really run fast. He's not
a great athlete by like outfilose standards, but he actually
is mighte way more of a fluid coordinated athlete out
there than those guys. So he doesn't look as bad
sometimes as the Soleiros in.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
The class of right, Well, I mean Jorge Solaire is
built like a Greek god. He's like six four, two fifty.
Profar is like I think he's listed at six foot
and one hundred and ninety pounds. So, yes, you're right,
he does not look as big and clunky out there
as a Solaire does. You could probably bench press me
and you laying down on each other, Brad, I don't
think Profar can do that, even if the defense is

(16:45):
a little suspect.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, he just looked up. If you didn't know him
as a bad defender, you just watched that play. He
looks awesome. It looks like Michael Harris out there on
that play. But uh, I still enjoyed it no matter what.
And by the way, we've covered this a lot, but
Profar has been pretty good at the plate as well.
We did it briefly last week too, but up to
a one sixteen the varsity plus with the season more
than one twentieth as it came back from the suspension.

(17:07):
Like he's sitting really well. He has more walks than strikeouts.
It's the All Star break, which is like a three
and a half four week sample. Like he's always been
a good patience guy. That was one of his strong
suits hit a absolute moonshot on Friday night, like to the
chop House. So like, I mean, I know it's not
been all smooth sailing, but if you could just hit
like this, it's gonna be okay. Not saying for a parade,

(17:28):
but it's gonna be okay if he does this.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, Oh, I mean, this is exactly what we were
hoping for when they signed Profar. I mean, if you
want to go back and listen to that episode, I
think we probably said you should not expect the silver
Slugger legitimate All Star that Profar was a year ago,
and hey, the peds probably had something to do with that,
but the fact that he has changed his swing and

(17:50):
he was a once talented player, all of the kind
of the talking points that we hit whenever they signed him,
I think still apply. And blindly, if you said he
was going to give us a one to fifteen one
WRC plus, I think he has like a seven eighty
ops since coming off the suspension, even if the defense
is not great. I think you take that all day long,
because frankly, I think we also said this when they

(18:12):
signed him. If Profar was a legitimate Gold Glover, in
left field. Guess what, You're not getting him for three
years and forty two million bucks. It was probably gonna
be more like five years and one hundred million. Obviously,
that's a big gap.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, we we we certainly agree there. Otherwise, on Saturday,
Michael Harris stays hot. Hit if you're on Homer on Saturday,
just kind of sealed the game, honestly, and I don't
want to jinx it. Michael's still looking good. He's basically
been their best hitters since the All Star break. He's
not walking, which is okay, but the power, I mean,

(18:45):
I believe he has the highest slugy percentage and the
highest OPS of anyone on the team over the last
three and a half or four weeks. A lot of
a lot of us that was that one was that
one like three day stretch. But he's also been doing
it since then, like you could he over this weekend.
So jaws, Michael Harris, just keep hitting.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Please, Yes, I mean that's huge. Man. If Harris was
terrible in the second half, I think then you probably
have to have at least some kind of conversation in
the offseason about his future. But I mean, not only
are the results great, but it feels like the process
in the advats are still good. I'd still like to
see Harris take a few more walks, maybe lay off

(19:22):
a couple of pitches outside of the strike zone. But
when he's making contact with this new batting stance he has,
he is hitting the crap out of the ball, and
that's a really good sign for a talented kid who
the Braves, frankly just full stop need to be a
core piece if they have any real chance in the
next couple of years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I just put some numbers on it. A six point
eighty five slugging percentage, so that's the All Star break ops.
Over one thousand, six home runs, six doubles in twenty
three games. That is a star level play. I mean,
if you just started the season at Delsart, which you
obviously can't cannot do. He was the worst qualified hitter
in baseball for a while this year. That doesn't go away.
But if you start the season all he would be

(20:00):
an All Star. Like he's been playing like an All
Star for the last three and a half weeks, So
it'd be great if that was real. Probably somewhere in
the middle, let's be conservative and probably realistic. And say
he probably is not as bad as he was for
the first three months, and he is as goods he
is now, and we'll hope we'll see where that with
actual middle falls. Michael.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yes, as we said, if Mike can run even a
seven fifty ops, he runs a seven to fifty ops
with that elite defense in his speed, he's going to
be a five war center fielder every year. That is.
I mean, that's easier said than done. I don't want
to pretend like a seven to fifty ops is you
roll out of bed and do it without you know,
blinking an eye. But yeah, that's it's really encouraging good

(20:40):
signs from Mike. Maybe take one or two more walks.
I think we would all really like to see that.
But if he keeps hitting the ball over the fence,
I don't really care what else he does.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Agreed. So Saturday's it was a doubleheader. First game was
a seven to one victory. The second game was an
eight to six victory that was actually kind of I
don't know, exciting, was maybe oversteady it, but they came
back from a four to one deficit. They played well
in the game. Drake ball one, who I already referenced
once but was really good in this game. But we
do have a DraftKings player spotlight to get to and

(21:10):
it actually has a direct tie to the game on
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spotlight on the show on occasion, and today it's gonna

(21:33):
be about Marcel Ozuna, which is actually kind of surprising
because we talked about Marisel a lot for trade reasons recently.
We were we understood why they didn't trade him, why
they maybe couldn't trade him. But also, honestly, I'll raise
my own hand. He we thought you shouldn't play very
much after at least I didn't think you should play
very much. He had quite a weekend now, facing his

(21:55):
old team in the Marlins. He had two of them
runs on Saturday. In one game he hit four home
runs and had six hits in four days. I mean,
he looks great. If they play all of a sudden,
like he had the injury, he had a rough I
don't know, the stats for like three months were not
very good. It really was more like a six or
seven week sample where it was like quite bad in
the middle of the injury. And I think the injury

(22:15):
hasn't healed, like it don't just suddenly heal a tear.
But maybe he's figuring out how to play around it. Regardless,
Ozanna had a heck of a weekend.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I mean Ozuna has killed the Marlins over the
past couple of years, and I mean coming back on
Saturday night was fun, you know, like there was life
in the ballpark. I fully understand the braves or twenty
games below, but it was just fun man to see
the crowd react the big comeback, the homer from Ozuna.
He's been read hot lately. We talked at length about

(22:43):
the frustrations of not being able to trade Ozuna and
Iglesias and go back and listen to that show. But
you know, I think we saw even in like the
ten days before the deadline, we started to see some
real signs of life from Marcel started to drive the
baseball like we have seen as no team had seven
million dollars sitting around to acquire him. But man, I mean,

(23:04):
he is having a stretch right now that would look
really good for a lot of contending teams. And you know,
there's that balance between playing Marcel, playing Murphy, playing Baldwin.
We will not have that conversation for the ninth time
this month on the pod. But as long as Baldwin
is not sitting too much, I'm fine with it. Rotate
the guys, keep them fresh. And you know, for Marcel,

(23:26):
he has literally millions of reasons to have a good
final two months as a pending free agent.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, and perhaps you know, him sitting a decent amount
might have been good for him physically. I mean it's
possible that, you know, put your feet up every couple
of days and maybe you're a little bit it's a
little bit easier to play through that pay Maybe you
just you just feel better physically. All those things we're
speculating now, but that's possible.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Six in the last two weeks, he brought up his
season long ops like sixty points in two weeks, which
is not easy to do. We're not playing every day
like he's sitting. Still a decent amount, including this weekend.
He sat one of the games this week and.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Still and that is late this late in the season too.
It's like it's April where you have three good games
and you double your ops. I mean that's that's significant.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, So big weekend from Marcel on a spotlight that
is certainly conflicting as far as what you would want
him to, how much you want to play them, all that,
but a big weekend and the Marlins do not enjoy
it playing I guess their old teammates in Marcel. No,
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Speaker 1 (25:56):
All right, Scott, we'll dig back into some action over
the weekend. Again, most of takeaways at this point in
the season. But you said it earlier, Joey Wentz might
be a thing. I mean we talked about with with
Herson Waldrop. He is a lower level priority at least
for now then Herston Waldrip old friend of course, but

(26:16):
everything we said applies about how many pitchers you need
you can rely on. Uh, he's cheap, and Joey Wentz
has been pretty darn good and two third innings for
the Brakes.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, so, Joey Wentz since signed off the scrap Heap
has made five starts and six appearances, and through twenty
eight and two third innings, Joey Wentz a two point
eight three ERA, a two point seven six FIP and
a three point seven six x FIP and that's largely
because Wentz has not been hit too hard by home runs.

(26:51):
But all that said, Wentz has been really impressive and
obviously a kid who was once upon a time highly
thought of has not worked out in the majors. But
when you watch Wentz pitch, he looks good. Like this
is not total smoking mirrors. I don't think. I don't
think anyone's gonna sit here and say this is the
next Clayton Kershaw. But he's cheap. And not only is

(27:15):
he going to get this audition in the second half
or in the last two months of the season, but
I think you have to kind of pencil Wentz in
as like a possible sixth starter next season. Maybe you
have him throw out of the bullpen for the Braves.
These are decisions to be made down the road. But
I mean when they signed Wentz, I think everybody kind
of chuckled. It's like, wow, that guy. He's still kicking
around in the majors. But I mean those numbers speak

(27:38):
for themselves, and the pitch data is good, the stats
are good, the advanced stats are good. So maybe the
Braves found something here.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
It's possible. For sure. I don't want to be the
guy that with them the parade. I'm a little skeptical still,
but also in a way where I don't want him
to be the fifth starter, like if he's your eighth guy,
ninth guy, tenth guy, like yeah up. And I mean
the underlying data I know and everybody loves it. But
to run a fip in the twos and an x

(28:06):
FIP in the threes for you know, almost thirty innings.
It's only thirty innings. But it's not like it's total
smoking mirrors. Like if he was running an era of
two point eight but every other metric was warning label
like flashing red lights, we would not be talking about
him like this. But it's the underling stuff being encouraging.
Is it's not dominant, but you know, there's enough pedigree there.

(28:27):
He has a live arm. He's not super young anymore,
but he is only twenty seven. Like they could find
something with him. I think the race had done to you,
like you said earlier, a good job with the pitching development.
So yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm still in the intrigued stage
more than the excited stage. But I'm like, hey, Joey Wentz,
eyebrows are raised for me.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah. Please please do not think that we are just
saying put this guy in pen. He's a number three
starter moving forward. We are not saying that. But it's encouraging.
And there is a long track record in baseball of
especially lefties, the pictures on both sides, but of guys
figuring it out a little bit later in their career
and maybe something clicks. I'd be interested to hear kind

(29:08):
of when players do their exit interviews at the end
of the season, if Wentz says, yeah, they change this
for me or they change that for me because he's
been impressive. And I think you have to take the
mini victories when you can in a season like this,
and it at least gives you some depth, because I mean,
dear God, brat, if I have to watch another Bryce
Elder start, I'm gonna, I mean, I'm gonna have to

(29:28):
like change my password and never watch MLB TV again,
because it's just they have to find better options than
like Bryce Elder, and you know when they were rotating
like Darius Vines and Alan Winan's like the ideally you
have someone who inspires a little more confidence.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
All right, you want to do this now, Let's just
let's do this down quickly on The only game we
talk about so far is Friday's game, which is the
game they lost. Uh, Bryce Elder got smoked on Friday,
And we'll keep it short ish year, but I pulled
the data, so I have to atalas share it. Bryce
Older has made forty three starts in the last twenty

(30:09):
five months or so since July of twenty twenty three,
his last forty three starts. It's like a season and
a half, yes, since he was an All Star. Basically, yes,
it's like a season and a half of a full
time starter two years of his This is This does
not include Anthrom Triple A, where he did spend some time.
Only Major leaguis in that simple one hundred and forty

(30:32):
two pitchers have thrown at least one hundred and eighty innings.
He is one of those one hundred and forty two.
I say that because he is dead last in era
six point zero nine over that sample size. If you
want to be a little bit more charitable, his FIP
is about a run lower. It's still in the fives,
but it is better than that. But he has the

(30:52):
fourth worst FIP, so if that's what you want to say,
it's still bad. And he has the second worst Fangrafts
war of all of those pictures, hilariously only ahead of
old Palell Bryce Wilson or BRAVECE prospect Bryce Wilson.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is it was Bryce Wilson who threw was like five
scoreless in the COVID NLCS in twenty twenty. Am I
mixing him up with somebody else?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I think that's correct. I'm gonna double check what we're talking,
but yeah, he uh he had some pedigree at one
point with the Braves. People were excited about him. I'm
pulling it up right now.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah. He threw six innings one ear run in the
twenty There we Go playoffs.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
We have not said the name Bryce Wilson maybe since
twenty twenty, so that's impressive.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, he was around for another like half season after
that and they got trade or maybe the fade one
of those. Anyway, I don't mean to be mean it.
That's why we're gonna pick as quick. Bryce Otter is
not good. I think we kind of know that. We'll
touch it out again one more time at the end
of the podcast because he's actually listed as a probable
picture for this week, which kind of surprised me. But

(31:56):
I agree. I know he was an All star. We
all understand. I would like to see the Braves have
ten pictures better than him that they can throw next year.
And by the way, I think it was our friend
at Capitol Avenue that mentioned this. It's not a new thing.
But they've used bry They they used Bryce so little
in some like in the miners. There's a calculation out

(32:17):
there he could actually maybe have an option for next year,
and if he does, they're going to keep him because
they like Alex values guys that have options to go
up and down to the minors. I'm with you, though,
I'd like to not watch Bryce older anymore. I feel
bad saying that. I just I don't want to do
this anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
But in the history of baseball, Brad, do you think
a starting pitcher who was named an All Star has
ever had a six ERA in the two calendar years
to follow.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I mean, probably just because it's a lot of baseball
has happened in the world.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
But ayah, more than have more than three pitchers had
an ERA above six following an All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I don't. I don't know, probably not, I don't. It's
I feel okay, what's this move on? I feel bad.
I feel bad because I don't want to. I'm not
rooting against him. We hope he does well. I mean
everybody students to like the guy. He's twenty six yars old.
I'm not saying it's like over forever for him as
a professional baseball player. I just I don't want to
watch him pitch anymore. But we'll leave it there. Let's
you have anything else to add, We'll leave it there
on price. Oh one more note from the weekend on field.

(33:21):
Matt Olsen homeward on Sunday to cat a good series
for him. He had seven hits against the Marlins this weekend.
And I say that because Ma's been was kind of
quiet for like about a full calendar month, from like
July six to eight August sixth. Basically, he hit his
seventy one w orc plus over thirty days. That's bad.
And Matt's been their best player of the season. He

(33:41):
leads the team in war and every category, will all
the things. But he had been in a slope and
he broke out of it this weekend. So that's nice
to see.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, good to see. I think we know what is
this year four of Matt Olsen. Now he is a
very streaky hitter. And when Matt is hot, he can
carry the offense. And when he's cold it can be
for wink weeks or even months at a time. So
good to see Matt get going having a fantastic year
prior to this slump, and hopefully these final seven weeks

(34:10):
of the season he can hit like we know he
can hit, get those season long number numbers back up
to where we want them to be, and hope. I
mean he's probably gonna win a Gold Glove at first base, right, Brad.
I mean, last time I looked, I have not.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Looked, so he's I saw the other day he's still
the comfortable leader in like you know, out of the
average a couple of I mean, look, we don't have
to talk about forever, but he until recently I think
even maybe still has the maybe leeds the National League
in fangrafts Ward first base, like he's still probably been
the could siderably been one of the three or four
bests been in the league this year, maybe even like

(34:42):
top one or two. Like he's been really good. It's
just been in a different way, Like he's not gonna
fifty home runs. He's probably gonna only hit like twenty
seven or something like that. But it's the defense has
been great. He's been taking walks. He is good like
Nelson's really good at baseball. So yeah, I see a
bounce back because up, I think we briefly mentioned it
a couple of times, but not like a deep back fashion.
It was like, oh, actually it was worse than I

(35:04):
remembered because it was a lot of like he wasn't
going zero for five every night. It was like a
lot of like one for fours and with a single.
And that's not what you want from Medelson, Like you
need some power. And he showed it a little bit
on Sunday. All right, before me bad, here some quick
news and notes and then we'll look ahead to the showdown.
I'm gonna use showdown with a bit of a wink
in my eye. Scott. With the Mets this week, the

(35:27):
Braves did some stuff transactionally. They claimed Vidal Breuhan, a
utility guy off waivers from the Orioles. He actually started
in the outfield once this weekend. I don't know much
about him, to be honest what I read on the internet,
but he had the career five thirty seven ops and
about a season's worth of plate appearances in the majors,

(35:49):
so he probably can't hit. It would be my analysis
of mister Breuhan.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
He will fit right in.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, utility player again, can play outfield, back up infield
and with Riley out and with Nacho had been banged up,
and they made some guy in some utilities that made
some Sense's just one of those things. And then also
today I believe they claimed a right handed pitcher, Connor
siebold off Waivers from the Rays. Another just god, Look,
the Braves should be honestly just taking shots guys that

(36:19):
are available. If you like one thing about them, like
one pitch, one little tweak you can make, if you
see something on paper, see something on film, bring them in.
If it doesn't work, it didn't work. But experientation is
probably a really good idea. Right now.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I would say, yes, absolutely, and we've said it before
on the show. But you have to think they're gonna
shut down Spencer Strider relatively soon. They're probably not gonna
have Chris Saale go until Game one sixty two, And honestly,
even guys like Dylan Lee and Pierce Johnson, who have
had pretty heavy workloads out of the bullpen this year,
I don't know if you necessarily want to push those

(36:52):
guys to the very end of the season. They're gonna
need live arms, guys that can just kind of throw
out there, and like you said, maybe you find another
Joey Wentz type who it's like, hey, okay, maybe next
year this guy could be something for us rather than
just throwing a non prospect to the Wolves in the system.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, that sounds about right to me. Dylan Lee. By
the way, I believe it is like top ten in
baseball in appearances fifty five. Yeah, like I have control
over for a long time. Like, yeah, I would not
mind not having a ton more mileage put on him
this season. But yeah, we'll get to that later on
if we need to. Two updates on guys who are
much more entrenched. Ron Akunya was widely seen by the

(37:33):
media today Sunday morning doing drills on the field, sprinting
like letting it go, like actually sprinting on the field.
All signs points are Ronnie being back for relatively soon.
If he's doing that, he's gonna play, you would imagine soon.
And he's already eligible to come off the il, so
like he could play Tuesday. I'm not saying it's gonna happen,
but like he could play whatever he wants to do.
What if they wanted to do, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Be careful, please, ronnieyahar lord, everybody say a prayer, hold
your breath, cross your fingers, crush your host, do whatever
you do to Then good thoughts for Ronald. I want
to see Ronald mccuinya junior out there. I want to
see him hit four hundred and fifty foot homers. I
want to see him being one of the most electric
baseball players on the planet. But for all of the

(38:15):
injury concerns that we have, Dear Lord, be careful, don't
don't get hurt again. That is the absolute last thing
the Braves need in these last six weeks. Yes, speaking
of Chris Sale is scheduled to throw a rehab outing
that they actually announced like three days ago now in
Gwinette on Tuesday. Presumably that means he's going to be

(38:37):
pitching on the majors quite soon. If he's throwing in Gwinette,
I know it's close down the street. But Sale, we've
joked also not Jojano, Stephen and Sean did the same bit.
Good luck stop at Chris Silver pitching if you don't
want him to pitch, he's going to pitch soon. But
if you want something to do that's not watching Braves
mets on Tuesday, perhaps dial up the strippers and watch
Chris Sale. Yeah, Hey, you know, it's good to see

(38:58):
that Chris feels good enough to pitch and presumably make
I don't know, four starts, five starts down the stretch.
We'll see ultimately what he does. But as we and
as Stephen and Sean kind of talked about the fact
it's only a rib injury that presumably is going to
not have any kind of long term lasting impacts. Sale
also broke ribs a few years ago, so this was

(39:20):
not his first rodeo back when he was with Boston.
I think so as long as Sale feels one hundred percent,
let him ramp up, hopefully give him something to build on,
because Sale, being the veteran that he is, has talked
many times about the importance of him having a regular
offseason routine and if he can make some starts and
get that arm to where it usually is, where it's

(39:41):
working and kind of having some stress on it down
the stretch, just don't don't overdo it. But it seems
like everybody is in agreement on kind of what should
happen these last two months.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, and one thing I know I was s guilty
of on the show recently, and I can't remember point
of this out, So forgive me to which friend of
mine said this to me online. But these guys, you know,
shutting guys down. I still believe we should the bridge
should be careful with a lot of these guys. But
it's not like Chris Sale's gonna go be in a
cryod chamber all winter. Same with scholan Back, Like these

(40:14):
guys are gonna probably throw some pitches like they're gonna
like they do want to do some work. So you
could argue that's like having some structure kind of being normal.
You just said kind of the same point on Sale.
But even Sholm, like Schwellenbox, who happens he has an
arm injury. It's a little bit different than Sales for injury.
But there is an argument to have those guys like
kind of just being a regular routine because then also
you do kind of shut down in a season for

(40:35):
a while, but it's it's a it's a control hutdown.
These guys are pros. They're always these guys are twenty
four seven, three sixty five getting ready to pitch. It's
just like when you're getting ready to pitch, Like, yeah,
Chris Sale, the maniact that he is, and we love
the maniact that he is is not like just forgetting
that he's gonna he's a pitcher. Like in December, he's
thinking about him getting ready, you know what I mean,

(40:57):
like staying ready, getting ready, staying in shape, all those things,
so like it never stops. So it's not as simple
as maybe I've made it sound or will we say no.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Absolutely, and you know, Sale talked as he won the
cy Young a year ago that the off season was
like his first normal off season in five or six years,
and it.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Worked quite a bit for him.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Absolutely worked. And before the backspasms got him, which is
a freak thing, Sale had a normal off season again
and he was fantastic. I mean, honestly, Sale was gonna
be top three, top four in SI Young voting before
he fell and broke the ribs. So it's important to him.
He Who are we to tell Chris Sale what he
should or should not do on a mound. As long

(41:37):
as he is not being obtuse and putting himself in
long term risk, Sale should do. He knows his body
better than anyone. The Braves doctors know him well. I mean,
just you know, be careful, don't have him throw one
hundred and seventeen pitches his first game back. But just
just be smart and get him into a rhythm so
he has again a normal off season.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
All right, we'll probably out of here. The Braves faced
the Mets this week, so they have Monday off. After
playing eight games in seven days, they need Monday off.
I would say at the travel as well, going up
to New York. But I haven't seen the Mets in
a while, and look full disclaimer, the brains are happy
in the season from hell, so glass houses, all those things.

(42:22):
I gotta say those, Scott. I am deeply enjoying the
Met's meltdown that's happening right now. And I know Braves
fans are probably in my boat with me. Our guy
Frank or your i'll say your guy Frank, Shawn's guy Frank.
I know you guys are always following the Frank experience.
If you don't know, Frank's the Mets super fan who's
has some funny videos. There was another one today. I
think I think Sean sent it to us. If you

(42:43):
didn't see that, Frank seven mounts down because the Mets
are terrible all of a sudden, which I'm enjoying just
to say it's out. Wow. They have now lost eleven
of the last twelve games, and they've been good this
year and they're not good now, and I enjoy the
shot and fraud of that. Yeah, the brains might go
up to New York get swept, That's very possible. But
in the moment, the Braves have one four or five

(43:03):
and the Mets have lost eleven of twelve. And yeah,
it's the small wins, Scott, the small wins.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
And it's not even just a super recent thing with
the Mets being bad. They have been legitimately bad. So
I think New York started forty five and twenty four
and since then, over the last two months, the Mets
are eighteen and thirty one. They have had some crushing losses,
Like you know when the Braves lost those seven games

(43:30):
in a row twice and it was just like, Okay,
what dumb way are we gonna lose tonight? They just
got swept, I believe by the Brewers, who are just
an incredible story right now. By the way, the Milwaukee Brewers,
I know, we just saw them. But yeah, the Mets
are down bad. You know, they have this game circled
on their calendar. They're back home, get right. And I
guess if you're the Braves, even if it's unconventional, they

(43:51):
do get to play the role of spoiler, because last
time I looked at I think the Mets are maybe
now even like a game out of the playoff picture.
If you can cause them some more pain, let's do it.
Let's make the Mets sweat a little bit more and
make these last two months even more difficult.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah, And the Braves are five and two against the
Mets this year. They won the first five and then
lost the last two. But the Mets have had two
of these stretches now, like you mentioned the longer shrift,
but they also lost ten of eleven earro of this year,
which included the sweep loss of the Braves the first
time around. So you know, we talked on a recent
show about maybe rooting against the Mets and the Phillies

(44:26):
and the playoffs. The Mets am might not make the playoffs,
Like the Mets are in a tailspin to where they
actually might miss the playoffs, which let us sound and unthinkable.
When they were, as you said, forty five to twenty four,
they were probably in the ninety five plus percent playoff odds,
and now they are not. They might still make it
because they you know, it's the weird situation, but throw
that out there. It's a big series. Look if people,

(44:48):
I will say, I'm sure there are people who have
been maybe tuned out the last couple of weeks on
the Braves, maybe the last ten days at least, who
might tune back in. Yeah, because they hate the Mets. Honestly,
I mean that's a pretty normal thing. I think there's
always a little more juice it is, didn't it is
during the week I think you said this briefly earlier,
but I think weekend versus weekday is gonna be a
little different for the rest of the season because weekend

(45:10):
series like that, Like you said, the five with the
at the Stadium was way better of the weekend than
it was during the week part. It was a win,
was winning, but it was just also more people there
because it's weekend. But uh, this is the time in
New York it should be sold out and juiced up.
It's the Mets. I know they're in a tail span,
but they were trying to win, and that's New York.
They're gonna sell tickets with the Braves.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, Yeah, so it's gonna be Spencer Strider in the
first game, and then God help us all at the moment,
it is Carlos Carrasco on Wednesday and then Braced on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Wasn't Wasn't he a Met at one point? Carrasco, I'm
pretty sure he was.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I'm looking at this, I think so that sounds right.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I'm wasn't. Yeah he was. He was a Met for
three years. So yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
But I mean Corossco and Elder, dear lord, if the
Braves somehow win the series to just continue the Mets misery,
I mean, then it that's almost even worse. Like there's
no shame in losing some close games to the Brewers
in Milwaukee and the state and sold that stadium. But
if you lose two out of three to the dead
in the water Braves throwing a struggling Spencer Strider a

(46:08):
scrap heap, Carlos Carrasco, who's like thirty eight years old,
and then Bryce Elder, who we talked about. I mean, oh, baby,
I might call into New York Mets Radio just to
see what's being said.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, we won't do a lot of pitching matchup previews,
but it's Carrasco against David Peterson, who has an ERA
in the twos this year, and Bryce Leer gets Kudi
Sing who has an ERA in the twos this year.
So if the Mets somehow loses serious it would be
quite funny. Oh one actual that we start teased earlier.
So when they called Waldrup back up to pitch, we

(46:41):
thought he might be the twenty seventh man in the doubleheader,
and he actually wasn't. They called him back up as
a full call up, I think, and a lot of us,
including me, thought that he might just slot into Bryce
Elder spot in the rotation because Bryce has been so
bad and that Waldrup, I mean even stick kind of
like tacitly acknowledged, like I think the way he said
it was, well, he wasn't the twenty seventh man. Might
maybe he'll be around for a while, one of those

(47:01):
kind of things, not explicitly saying it, but so I
was kind of not surprised. I was just it was
notable to me that Bryce was still in a retition
because water could go on Wednesday, sorry, on Thursday, that's
the third game of the series, all normal rest, so
maybe they'll still do that. But if they don't, I
don't really know what is happening with Waldrop, so we'll

(47:22):
see that they might.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
You know, they might be giving Waldrop just an extra
day because they have the off day. And I mean,
don't I know that they're auditioning Waldrop and thing what
they have. But he is hitting presumably is going to
hit a wall here pretty soon, full season workload pitching
into September, I would imagine. So maybe they're just I mean,
the Braves clearly when they if the Braves gave a

(47:44):
rats ass about winning these games, they would not send
Bryce Elder out there like they would they would do
a bullpen game. They would have somebody literally anybody else
start say Yeah. I mean, I think I wouldn't be
surprised if Waldrop, assuming he's kept up on the roster,
will be starting next week and against I don't even
know who they're playing, Brad Guardians. Cleveland's kind of weird,

(48:06):
like they're winning games and their two best pitchers are
on the anyway weird weird team.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, but no, you're right, it's a good point. I
just I don't care. I'm again, it doesn't really matter
about the winning games part, which is why Carrasco and
Elder is more of an lol than it is like
us freaking out about it. It is what it is.
But I just thought it was notable that we I
thought we might see Waldrop listed on Thursday and it's
not him, So vibe he goes Friday, like you said,

(48:31):
maybe that they can still change it. Probables are probable
for a reason. They're not definites. They're probables.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
But also, the Braves tend to just go to TBA
or TVD if they don't know what they're gonna do,
or even they know what they're gonna do, they will
occasionally go gamesmanship and with nobody. So them listing Carrasco
and Elder was like, oh, they're probably gonna be carascoing
Elder and we'll see it. But you know they went
after that and stretch them all out. Everybody should be
pitching this, take up as much time as you need.

(48:59):
I think Trip's already, like especially his career high innings,
I think he matched maybe close to matching last year,
like one hundred dish between the two levels, So like, yeah,
maybe he doesn't go all the way to the end
of the season, which is possible, so keep that in mind.
All right, Scott, we managed to go longer than we thought.
Shocking from us in mid August. Anything else you would
like to add on the podcast before we before we

(49:19):
sign off. Not a thing, Brad, not a thing. Wow,
No Colts takes.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
We have said it all, Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Daniel Jones. Nothing fantasy football show.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
You asked me about the Colts, and my blood pressure
goes up. I think about Anthony Richardson gets out of
bed in the morning and he breaks four bones. It's bad.
I know I shouldn't complain. Peyton Manning was the quarterback
of my favorite team for a large portion of my life.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
And then yeah, you're so, you're so tortured Colts fan.
It's fine, you could be a Falcons fan. Look, we're
we are, though, firmly and fansy football season like squarely
in the middle, and uh, you like, I enjoy the sport.
In fact, I think you we were talking dynasty keepers recently,
you and I ale, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I love I know, I know it's like exploding in popularity.
I love fantasy football. If if fantasy football like if
an evil magician waved his wand and got rid of
fantasy football my care in the NFL would go down
so much. But I love it, man. It's it's fun,
it's competitive. Do I have a lague with my buddies
I've been doing for like fifteen years at this point

(50:30):
it's I love it as do I.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I mean, way too many leagues. I won't even tell
you how many on the show. It's kind of embarrassing
how many leagues are in. Okay, Scott, let's get out
of here. People should be following you at Scott Coleman
fifty five. Correct.

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