June 10, 2025 • 46 mins
On this episode of Hasta Abajo, Meli is in New York visiting Cami! The ladies catch up about everything happening in their worlds - from Meli's event with Hugh Jackman and Cami dishing how she became part of Shakira's NY concert to their recent trips to Puerto Rico. There is so much chisme to talk about!
Cami and Meli also discuss a big topic for women who play sports... injuries. The hosts share their personal stories overcoming injuries and discuss why women are more prone to get ACL tears.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Melissa Orties, I'm Camilla.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm on and this is.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We're back, and we're in your apartment.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We are in our apartment, in my apartment. You're more
than what those who move in whenever you'd like, thank you.
I don't want to pay rent though, so our setup
is actually insane.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm pretty much locked into my l shape couch like
there's no way for me to get out.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Un let's not.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I hop over like three thousand pieces of equipment. I
also have my hair curly today, which is not a
normal situation. I just went to a curly hair event yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And you got inspired by the curls. Usually my hair
is more curlier. And today's stream what's going on? What's
going on? And that's on hair health. Anyway, you guys
thought that we like to catch up before we get
into things.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We already started with that Millie's drinking cafecito that I
made for her. How is it like, because I know
you're a cafecito's not well?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I love it, it says Miami mommy, my, Miami momy,
because that's what I am.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Now you are Miami mommy, and I just finished Amacha latte. Honestly,
this is a really good cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Really, girl, Okay, you have bro you got mauris the potential. Okay,
it's not me, it's a machine. Let's be real. Let's
be real.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I just want to gi a shout out somebody, because
she's been flying back and forth for all these interviews
to New York City. You just came up again.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Like, I know, I ain't complaining, but my hat does
say New York or nowhere, baby, so I guess it's
on brand, right right, I have New York on my
head and Miami and on my cup, like I'm upset.
I guess I'm just like a by city girlie.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
She is a really really and honestly, I've been trying
to convince her to hang out with me more often.
I literally, you're already welcome to living.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
She was just in Puerto Rico. I was, oh my gosh,
we need to catch up because you were there too.
So I'll tell you really quickly about my Puerto Rico trip,
which was unreal. So my husband is Puerto Rican born
and raised in Santurse for all you Puerto Rican listeners,
and what was so special about this trip is that
I've been back to per like ten times or so,
(02:27):
and this one was cool because it felt like like
we almost lived there, like not live there, but meaning
we didn't do like the hotel thing at first, like
we stayed at his you know, family house. We worked
from there for a bit. That's the way to do it,
you know. We went to go play paddle. If any
of you play paddle or paddel however you say that word.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But before I love it how they pronounce.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
It in Spanish, yeah and English. I get kind of
confused that I'm not sure if it's paddle or padel. Yeah,
I don't know. We'll go for me. And then I
came up to New York for forty eight hours. I
saw you.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We interviewed couple. I know if you guys haven't listened
to the episode, you used to listen immediately like Nana.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well keep talking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We're like, we need to go back just to take
away some of these nuggets that this guy was saying
that we're so amazingly positive and inspiring. Like I'm going
to be listening to that one on repeat repeats. Listen
if you skipped it, Yeah, okay, so definitely go back
to that episode. But how what was your favorite part
about Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
As soon as I got back from that interview that
we did with couple and I did a Global Citizen,
I hosted a panel for Global Citizen. Was super cool?
Was it your panel again?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Hugh Jackman, who by the way, by the way, he's
so tall and they we're gonna say hot.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean that too. You knows he's awesome. He's such
a lovely guy. So Humble just has like really great energy.
So it was a really fun event to be able
to host the panel with the CEO of Global Citizen.
And Uh I got back and this is my favorite
part about the Puerto Rico trip. We went to Krakolera
(04:08):
is an island part of Puerto Rico, but off of
the main island of Puerto Rico. And you have to
either a take a little a little plane with propellors.
Could never and I already know your story because you're
not doing that again.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, and cr I was traumatized and I will never
get back on one of those mosquito planes.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I have no business being on there. No, and neither
do you. No avoid at all costs. I'm like scared
of those little planes. So I always should happily sit
my ass on a ferry for an hour and a half.
I don't even I'll risk getting seasick. I'll lish that
like okay, like a little.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Vomb here and there. It's okay, I'm just kidding into it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, you made it. I made it without puking, without puging.
So it was awesome with a group of friends. And y'all,
if you ever go to Puerto Rico, or say, for instance,
this summer because Bad Bunnie's tour, because residency is everything,
figure out the day we're going, we're going, you definitely
need to make Kulera part of that trip to puer Rico.
It is absolutely beautiful. It's one of the best beaches
(05:04):
in the world, like proven hashtag facts, pristine waters. It's
literally you're living on island time and island life. And
that was just amazing. And you know what else was
my favorite part. What you know, when you're just at
the beach and you're like obviously wishing for no clouds
in the sky, just sun, just you know, your best life. Honestly,
(05:26):
there's no lightning. I'm down exactly no, exactly there wasn't
any lightning, and it was one of the most like calming,
most most relaxing. The waters were crazy like still kind
of clear and just I just really just soaked it
in as it poured, and oh god, I love that.
That's like Mama, Pacha Mama, how you pacha Mama. That's
also just like you being grounded and like in like
I don't know, in nature, and yeah, I needed that. Anyways,
(05:49):
tell me about your Puerto Rico trip. Oh. I went
to Puerto.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Rico with Peloton and I friendly got to stage and
in person like live class that met myself and Ivent.
It was absolutely incredible. I just remember like people putting
their arms up and like I saw like eight hundred
hands go up and my heart dropped.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It was like a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Just like connecting with everybody in and everyone there's so nice. Yeah,
people like a vibe like shout out to you because
you were not like y'all are just like on point.
But yeah, that was that was really really incredible. I've
been I've also been traveling a lot back and forth
(06:28):
within the last couple of months. Obviously, now you guys
have seen that we dropped some Miami Senia content on Peloton,
which was really dope, and and yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You know, what's so cool about your event that you
did in Puerto Rico with Helton because I went to
Portrica like ten days after, which kind of stucks because
we just missed each other and we were trying to
make it work. But I was hanging out with some
friends and they were like, oh my gosh, your friends
are coming bah. Like yeah, they're like, we were just at
her event. It was so amazing, and y'all guess but
(07:00):
they told me. They told me that when they released
like the announcement of the event, that there was gonna
be a peltanvan in Puerto Rico. As soon as they
released Comi LA's name, that she was going to fly
down for it. They had to change venues to make
it larger because so many more people like signed up
because of you girl. You guys.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, they literally told me that again for the fifth
fifteen thousand times this week.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's been a rough week, but we're in here. No,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I yeah, I'm so grateful for every single person that
I met out there, and like everyone was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It was just it was just so great to connect
with people.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And it's just just a real moment because I remember
like about to go on stage and I was like
perto rico and they were like ah and I was like, ohla, wow,
like these are my people because you forget because you're
like behind a screen and you're like never see people
ira And it was just like, so.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Does to be like, Okay, this is.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
My people, Like they get me, they understand it was
we got to do it to do an event sometime. Yeah. Yeah,
would you guys like that? Would I think it would?
We would turn up.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I think we would turn I don't. I don't think.
I know. I don't want to say like that because
here's my thing. When I go out.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
If I'm like, oh, we're going in.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Then I get crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But if I'm like, oh no, no, I'm just gonna
be mad chill tonight, it's gonna be cute and then
it'll be normal.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So I'm gonna be super chill.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Are potentially future mommy cloud see claud because to a
video of me.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
To working up beside down at the club.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Literally that's all I want.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh well, and.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I actually got to live a childhood, live out a
child Yes, yes, we went to that one because you've
done You've done two really cool things.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Okay, we'll talk you here. Well, Milly and I were like,
are you going to Shikia? And then we're like, oh,
we really want to go.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So then I of a sudden I got an email in
my inbox. I was like, do you want to walk
out with Shaky down Her concert? And I said me,
I would love to walk out.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
With Shy down Her. I was like, I didn't get
that email.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
This little baby girl, cam Ramona, had one CD called
I told the story a billion times. I keep saying it.
And when I left for Monandina and I immigrated to
the United States, I had that one CD and I
would listen to it, and I had a CD player
listened to my back to back while I was saying bye.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
To my AILI does crying on the plane crying.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I was very sad growl because I was just wripped
away from my family. And then when I came to
the United States and I was just like living in
like my parents' friend's house for the first couple of months,
I was just like listening to that CD and I
got to meet her. Mind you, she had done a
(09:54):
seventy person like paid fan meet and greet before the
fifty person like VIP meet and greet.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That we were in. So she had her and she
was already.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Forty five minutes late to her show, which is before
the show, before the show.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Which is insane. And I can't even because the amount
of attention that you.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Have to give people as like you're meeting them like
you don't want to be like disconnected or like rude
or anything, like.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You want to give people time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, So I can only imagine before she and her
show was long physically mentally like demanding. She had like
eighteen thousand outfit changes which were all engrazing, crazy, insane. Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So I walked up to her and the words didn't
come out. They didn't though. I was like.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was like, I was like, I just want to
tell her likely sound on her others. I was like, hey,
I don't know what I told her.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
In the beginning. I was like, thin girl, I was like,
and she was like yeah, but I felt.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Weird invading her space. So I kind of did an
air hug, like I didn't squeeze her, you know. I
was like, I don't want to do that too.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You don't know me.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, and you probably have that happened to you
so many times that you're like I could just imagine her.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
She's like, I don't want to get sick. This bitch
has germs, you know what I mean, Like I'm trying
to get you sick.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I love you, but I like hugged her like openly, respectfully,
and then we took a picture.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
My hair it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Intertwined and intertwined like Avatar. With her, we became one,
and my hip was against her hip. The most famous
iconic hips in the entire universe, in this universe and
every parallel universe, like there is no way that Shakida's
hips are not the most famous and iconic one.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And then on my way out, I was like and
she was like a and then she like she like yeah,
I just like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Camila, thank you so much, Camila, get out of here,
like okay bye. And then we like ran around and
we had to wear these like silver ponchos, so we
like put on the silver ponchos.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
No, we didn't put on the silver ponnchos.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
The girls like where the girl was supposed to like
take us, she like we lost her.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So then all of a sudden, we see her. She's
like hyer. Shiki was already there ready to walk out,
and I don't even have my poncho on, so I
was like, I need my poncho. I was like, I'm
going to miss my opportunity to walk out with Shaki
out there. Where's my pancho? Where's my poncho? Until finally
they gave us the puncho.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But the ponchos were folded up like fun and stuck
together because it was like a plastic.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
So I was like like, try to be calm. And
then I put my paunch on and then the hood
was like attached to my forehead. I was like, can
you fix me?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And the glasses were like these silver glasses and you
actually couldn't see anything.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like so, and then I saw Robin, so I like.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I literally grabbed Robin's hand because I was like I
cannot see period.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I couldn't see in front of me.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
No, like a little bit, but like there's so many lights,
like I don't know how the other girls could see.
So then I just like grabbed Robin's hand and I
was like, by yas if I fall, they fall, but
we didn't fall.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
We made it, and it was a dream come true
for this.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And then I went up to you and I was like, hey, Mannie,
I was like, and we had a drink and I
was talking about your mom because it was your mom's
bird birthday.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I'm so proud of you, honestly because I know how
much you love Chucky. Like once once we Cammy and
I were in the car in Miami, just driving and
we were like, you know, just singing out loud to
music as one does, as friends do in the in
the car, and she puts on Shakida playlist and she
was like word for word, lyric by lyric, just like
(13:06):
belting out Shakira song And like, I know a lot
of songs by Shakida.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
But the old, old old ones I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Know all the lyrics are those ones. And so I
know how much Shakida means to you, and for you
to have that moment, yeah, it's just like full circle
right and everything.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I always said like there's two people that I like,
really would like die to me. One of them was Shakida.
Who's gonna when I met her?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Missy Ah, which you meant, let's let's try to make
that happen. And you touched his shoulder and you touch
her hips. But yeah, So then at the Shakira concert
you told me you were like, I'm walking on stage whatever,
and so the best he's the biggest hype girl, you
mean in your life.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The video that you sent me so icond of I
posted it. It's on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
She's like, that's my read. You the best angle, the
best shot girl. I stood up on chairs to get
that angle. Okay, I risk my life. But the perfect
part was that shout out Live Nation and shout out
to WMME like they offered me these tickets and it
(14:11):
all came through just perfectly because where my seats were
on the floor, it was right next to where you passed.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So I was like, oh my gosh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And then yeah, so, like Commy said, afterwards, she came by,
she said hi to my parents, me and my husband,
and we had to drink together and then we were dancing,
we were singing, we were screaming at the top of
our live yea to night. If Shakira is still on
tour and you guys are debating on whether the go,
don't debate it. No, you need to go. And to
be honest, with you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
When the show first started, I was like, I feel like,
for such a big artist, like she should have like
a little bit more going on, like the production. Like
I was like, maybe she needs, like I don't know,
like a bigger wolfhead or like something that she's like
comes up. But then that's how she was doing like
her newer like pop kind of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But then towards the end.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
She really like she was really it was just her,
Like her dancers were gone, it was just her.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
She doesn't need anybody else. No, she started doing her
shakida thing. The hips were moving, like, the hair was flying.
She was doing this move.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Where she like lifts her boobs up in the air,
and I was like, that's the new doing at the club.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
No, she literally goes like this, okay, oh yes, she
like smacks her boobs up, and I'm like, one time,
and did you see that documentary? Girl? Did I see it?
I could? You cried?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
No, I cried the bitch went into the Hudson though. Yeah,
that's that was I saw that. And I was like
I don't like, no, I got say, okay, that.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Was I was like I saw it in New York
and literally the crowd at the same time. They were
all like, because if you.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Are from or live in New York, like you know,
you ain't put enough finger in the HUDs. She's like
Then next say, I was sick and I had to perform.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I was like, I wonder why girl literally no, but
she's she's another one that's like so beyond inspiring. I
went to her premiere. I finished class at six thirty yep.
I got into the car at six forty six thirty
three actually because we had a minute stretch. But by
the time I ran out, I just had everything like
ready and like a blow dried. My left armpit really
stunk by the end of the night, but it was fine.
(16:24):
Did you only apply to your right or was your
left just more sweaty? This one just I don't know.
My left arm smells them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, sometimes it has to me too, I know.
No joke. Actually not like TMI.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
But at the Shakira concert, I had like the sheer
long sleep.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, it was beautiful. Thank you, Maji. Shout out
to Maji. Colombian made bathing suits. It actually is a
bathing suit, but I were as a top. It's like
sheer and like, no, no joke. If you know, you know,
there's some shirts or materials that just like it will
collect your stink. That's the material that my dress was made.
It was like a mesh material. Yeah, that's fine, mesh.
(17:01):
So I was like, say, what's that's a fair toe
in my fucking armit? Thank what? Like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
That was me like I feel like this is the
concert with my right and my left.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I was like, I was like, oh ship my left,
my left.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You were good, thank you. We were all sweaty.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah. Sure, Well, today's little we have. We had a
lot to catch up on. We still have more to
catch up on, but you know, we got to get
into the nitty gritty.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So today we're gonna be talking about overcoming.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Injury, right, which we both have a lot to talk about.
But stay where you're at. We got some more athlete break. Okay,
Today we're talking about the wear and tear of athletes,
whether it be a food ballista like Melly, basketball player,
(17:50):
baseball player, softball literally, a fitness instructor person like myself
who I'm teaching NonStop pretty much every day of the week.
We all go through phases where we're feeling our body
is a little debilitated. Maybe we have more intense or
chronic or acute injury and we have to perform at
(18:11):
a high level still or find ways to come back
as quickly as we can, or mentally deal with the
process of an injury.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, kind of you've dealt with injuries. I've dealt with injuries.
And even as latest recent news, there's been a lot
of major injuries that have been going on in different
perspective sports, be it basketball, soccer, course, like you said, volleyball,
you name it, and even big names. And I think
there's been a big highlight and emphasis in terms of
(18:42):
why female athletes are getting injured, more specifically tearing their
acls at a Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You mentioned that this is related to your hormones.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yes, and I'll tell you why and more likely to
happen during your period. As if we needed anything else
to worry about, well literally lead out. But seriously, it
almost hurts just thinking about all that we have to
go through. But some significant names or examples Chelsea FC's
(19:13):
Sam Kerr, she's still recovering from her ACL tear, christ
and pressed the place for Angel City. She tore hers
in twenty twenty two. It took her two years, two
years for surgeries to recover from that. When guys, usually
when you tear your ACL and knock on wood, I
need would I need?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Would do you have any wood? Any?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Shoot? Okay by association?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Usually when you chear your CL it takes around twelve months,
like twelve to fourteen months to recover. However, there could
be a bunch of like either relapses, there could be infections,
there could be you know, improper healing, scar tissue, a
lot of things that can come up when you do
get injured, be it your ACL, Oh I got wood,
Thank you. It was really important because I her this
(19:58):
morning and that's like a big year. I was already sweating,
I was already swetting, and so yeah, there could be
a bunch of instances or occasions where you think maybe
aclchair is going to be one year, but a lot
of things can happen. Martha, for instance, also suffered an
ACL tair. She's the Brazilian legend soccer player. Cameron Brings,
(20:19):
who is a w NBA rookie, suffered an ACL tair
last year in June. Juju Walkins, who also suffered an
ACL tear in March she is University of Southern California
as one of their best sophomores players and one of
her best seasons so far since arriving to the university,
(20:40):
and to have to go through, you know, a major
injury like that is a huge setback, not only for
the program but also for the NC double A. So
or I want to go with this is just you know,
there has been a lack of studies, lack of importance,
lack of research as to why so many aclchairs happened
to female athletes. We've known this for such a long
time as athletes that women do suffer acl teal tears
(21:04):
more than men. Yeah. But now, of course, because you know,
women's sports is getting more coverage, there's been a lot
more backing in terms of money being given to research
programs as to why this is happening. Thankfully, one of
the examples is Michelle King. She owns the Washington Spirit,
she owns olympicy On As Women, she owns London City Women.
(21:28):
They're all soccer clubs, and she has invested millions and
millions of dollars so that more medical research goes into
figuring out why it's happening, but also how does it?
How can we make it more preventative? Yeah, And one
of the things that you mentioned comming was horbones. So
that's actually a really great point that you brought up,
(21:49):
because obviously, when you're going through you know, a cycle,
your normal lucas, Yeah, you know, you have you go
through estrogen higher estrogen, lower estrogen, whatever is going on
throughout your cycle, and estrogen actually can affect the ligaments
and it actually potentially increases the laxity or the looseness
of your ligaments in your knees, which.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Is I mean that happens naturally too, like as when
you get pregnant, Yes, like your body prepares so that
your literal bones can expand. And that's why we limit
ourselves during pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Training to like remove.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Things that require high impacts, because you lose stability.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
In your joints for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So I can only imagine like when we're regularly fluctuating,
there's still those same hormones flowing through our body. When
when those fluctuations happen, we have a higher propensity to
get injured in that way. And then also something that
I'm reading is that the anatomical differences between men and women,
like I look at my husband Luciano, we both ran
cross country. He was always able to run faster than me.
(22:48):
His anatomy is built differently like I look at myself
in the mirror next to time. His hips are so
different from mine. Yes, his quad ratio is like to
hamstring ratio is so different from So that also supposedly
leads to a dot percentage.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, and like you said, like the anatomy, So women's hips,
like the way that your hips are shaped and go
inwards or however your body is built, can also affect
that where men's hips aren't built like that because obviously,
you know, we as women will or do carry babies,
you know. So another reason why this has happened so
(23:27):
much for female athletes is because there's been a lack
not only of studies as I mentioned, but also a
lack of like strength training preventative programs for female athletes
from you know, youth age to current day, which there
has to be a bigger emphasis in terms of youth
sports schools. You know, you know, remember when you go
(23:47):
to pe, like you would just go out and play.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, you just like do a couple jumping jacks and like, okay,
go out to the field, which I mean when you're
a kid is fine because you are just more nimble
and less likely to be in But as life progresses
and we stop stretching, we stop moving as often we're
sitting down at our desks from nine to five and
then or maybe not maybe you're an athlete, but also
(24:11):
like our bodies, like movement takes a.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Toll on the body as well, especially.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
If you're not focusing on recovery and you're not doing
strength training leading up to it. I think one of
the things that I'm like very proud I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think I know.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
One of the things that I'm very proud of, like
that we do have Pelson, for example, is we have
strength programs that a is like strength for runners, strength strength.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
For soccer players.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So we have those things that we offer because we
know the importance of it. And I am primarily a
cardio forward girly, which within itself leads to a lot
of overuse injuries that I've had to deal with over
my life that we'll get into a little bit later.
But one of the things that I always say is
like you want to run faster, and you want to
run for the rest of your life, like, you have
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to be doing strength training, and you have to be
moving throughout all planes of motion. You can't just be
going front and back your entire life.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And I think you landed on a really great talking point,
which is strength training. If you all want to prevent
these type of injuries as much as possible, please please
please strength train. And like Gomi mentioned, your quad to
hamstring ratio is very different. Everyone's different. Some people have,
you know, stronger hamstrings than quads. Your stronger quads and hamstrings.
(25:23):
And actually, when I was a professional soccer player, they
would really tell us. We would like, we would do
so many hamstring exercises because you already are quad are
set dominant, Yeah, especially as a soccer player, and so
we would do, oh my god, we would do so
many eccentric strength training exercises for our hamstrings because that's
(25:44):
what's really strength. And when you have that, that's what's
really weak. When you have that imbalance between those muscles,
that is what happens what could really leave to sometimes
getting acl tears or muscle injuries. So, yeah, guys, thankfully
we are in an era where there's a lot of
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studies being done and hopefully, like This is something that's
going to keep on being researched and studied and hopefully
find more preventive ways so that female athletes aren't suffering
these injuries more frequently.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's a very devastating injury to or diagnosis to receive,
like acl tair. Surely, so any preventive measures that we
can take to make the life better for these athletes
that are already, like you know, working against all odds,
so like make it in these.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Fields is very important.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And even if you're not a pro athlete, like these
conversations are important because you might still be a woman
on the other side playing sport looking to get fit
and hearing this should motivate you to make sure that
you are doing the things that you need to do,
strength training, recovery, stretching, all these preventative measures so that
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this never happened to you and even if it does,
do not worry you do come back from it, which
we'll get into a little bit later, but as of
right now, we're gonna pop to break, but stay with us.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Welcome back to the show. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
We've been talking about injuries and my girl Meddi Borida,
she suffered a big injury right before a huge event
I did to say the least.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I did, Let's just say it was incredibly heartbreaking. I
tore my achilles five days before the FIFA Women's World
Cup in the twenty fifteen one. Honestly, it was like
the last big event tournament that was on my bucket
list to performing in or to compete in, and like
(27:49):
I was dealing with achilles tendonitis for six months. And
what's really effed up about the whole situation is that
that FIFA Women's World Cup was played on turf in Canada,
which would never happen in the game, by the way,
and it was a law suit against FIFA as well.
But anyways, the whole tournament was played on turf. So
before the tournament actually started, our national team was training
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on turf because we had to get used to the
way the ball you know, bounces, moves, passes everything, because
it's different than playing on you know, it's different playing
on artificial grass than natural grass. So the like really
high impact the turf, It really like messes up your joints. Yeah,
and so I had been completing to my team doctors
(28:32):
for quite a while and saying my achilles both of
them are really hurting, and you know, they just like
because it was the women's team and at the men's team,
they were like, oh yeah, just like ice heat massage,
like nothing major, Like they never sent me to actually
get tested or have a MRI or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
When you also had such limited resources, Yeah, for sure,
like we were. We weren't even getting paid.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So yeah, like it just it sucked obviously because it
was my dream. It was everything I worked for. I
was at the peak of my career. I was playing
the best like I think football in that position I
had been playing ever. I was peaking. Like I said,
I had offers to play professionally in Japan right after
(29:16):
at the World Cup. And it wasn't just the Women's
World Cup, it was also the Pan American Games, which
I got left off the roster for, which was the
month after that. So so yeah, I had to deal
with that. And when I tell you, I was like
at the lowest of my lows ever, You're one of the.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Most positive people that I've met in my life, Like many.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Is just like always positive, Like I'm glad today.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I admire that about her, But I can only imagine
how devastating a moment like that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It was bad.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
How did you deal with your mindset? Like did you
grow therapy?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I did a little bit of therapy more towards the
latter end of my recovery because I was, you know,
you get back to from injury and you have to
you have to have faith in like your rehab, like
that you have you have strong muscles again, that your
achilles isn't going to retear. So I actually had to
work with a sports psychologist to like really like hone
(30:08):
in on my mental strength to be like you're gonna
be fine, like your your acceleration, your you know, your touches,
your sprints, you know, your tackles, like everything, You're like,
nothing's going to happen. You're going to be fine. But
I had to work through that. But I want to
say this is that like whenever you're going through obviously
something hard in life or like an injury. It's so
(30:29):
cliche to sometimes say this, but like everything happens for
a reason, and that's where you met your man's and
for me, that reason was love, which is crazy because
I had just broken up with my boyfriend of that
time of five years and I was a month single.
(30:50):
But like more just fully focused in on the World Cup.
I was like, I'm playing a World Cup. I'm gonna
go play internationally afterwards. Like that's that's what I want
to dedicate now, like to I don't want to be
hung up over like this breakup and let usta whatever.
But when the world came crashing down on me and I,
you know, obviously tore my achilles, I was really depressed
because obviously I let I missed out in the World Cup,
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on the Pan American Games, and I was like, you know,
my god, I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Have a boyfriend anymore. Like it's just like you're missing.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Everything that happened at the same time.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, but life, when when you're personal in your professional
life both like kind of fumble at the same time,
that's when you really hit a lolo.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That was me. Yeah, but y'all things happened for them.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
She opened she opened her dating app.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I did open it. She swept Which way do you swipe? Noticed,
because I don't know. Swipe left, white, right, swipe right.
You swipe right if you like him, right, swipe left
if it's the past.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
The pack th right seems right, like right seems the
right way to go. Yeah, yeah, so she swiped right
and found the right man, right, yeah, and the one and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Only rescue you. Yes, I did so, and.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The right the right one, and the reason of like
perfect for each other.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
She like came out her love so much.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
She was like, she's like, find yourself a man who
watches women's sports.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
He was just like watching. Yeah, It's amazing how life
works in like such mysterious ways, and like you don't
know it at the time, what you're going through. You
don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, right,
And I told him as many times, like he was
that light at the end of my tunnel.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And when we eventually got married, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Years later, I was like in our in our wedding day,
I was like, I love you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
You know, things happened for a reason. I'm like, but
you owe me a World Cup.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
But yeah we did.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We did meet on a dating app, which is crazy
to say. I have a question about your mindset, because
what was it that you told yourself that got you
through that moment, Because like you can get you can
go low and stay there and like it's very tough
to like get out of there and also like rebuild
your mindset. But what did you tell yourself when you
were in the low moment that got you out of there.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I remember like already putting a goal, like being super
goal oriented, like I'm like, okay, I'm on day one
of recovery. I can't even walk, like I was in
crutches for three months, and I remember just setting my
goal and that goal was to get back and play
in the Olympics. But like even if Olympics weren't had
hadn't had been that goal, it would have been like, Okay,
(33:19):
my goal is to run, you know, and I would
do like mini goals, so it's like, okay, my goal
is like once the no literally like take this, put
your foot on the floor.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I couldn't put my phone on the floor.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And then like it was like that was like that
was already like scoring a goal, and the like my
next goal was like okay, to walk, then to run,
then to drive because I couldn't drive for three months
and then you know what I mean. But honestly, like
through it all, my family was where they were so
great there, there were incredible support. Music for me was
everything at the time because it just like made me
feel happier, It made me also feel like really ingrained
(33:51):
in my culture and like being with the national team
because like the national team who listened to so much music.
What was so cute was when when I met my
you know them boyfriend now husband off dating app. We
weren't even like we were just chatting, you know, and
like he had known that I was injured and all
that stuff, and he made me a playlist. He made
me an injury playlist, and it was what was it called, like, Oh,
(34:12):
it was called meng Yeah, that's so cute.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's all like manga, and he.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Knew because it's so embarrassing. I had had a scooter.
I was in a boot, and so I had a scooter.
I had a basket on my scooter, and I had
like a little little boombox, a little stereo in my basket,
and I was like go around the house, like the
neighborhood whatever. And so I would put the playlist in
my basket on the schooner and that was like, that
was happiness for me. So you just have to find
(34:39):
like certain outlets that will like ignite that type of
like light in you, whether that's through your family, whether
it's like your culture like music, whether that's I don't know,
through finding a new hobby, and that's some of the
things that like I did through that time. And I'm
so grateful that life worked how it lifed and brought
me love in a way that like I never thought
(35:00):
I knew at the time when I was so depressed. Yeah,
so and.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
You're allowed to be down, Like yeah, nobody's saying like, oh,
you get injured, like you have to find a goal
the next day, like take your time, feel like shit.
If you have to feel like shit, I like know
there's an out, and there's like so many things, especially
as you continue to rehab and take care of yourself,
Like there's so.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Many other things that you can do.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
And I think that's one of the things that I
focused on as well with I've never had an injury
as serious as the one that you had, but I've
I've had a lot. I've dealt with a lot of
like over you stuff, Like I had a really bad
knee when I was training for my marathon that had
to postpone my races for I honestly found out that
I have an extra bone in my foot, and running
(35:44):
has always been my life. Like I the other day,
we were doing We were doing like a summit and
one of the questions was like, how many bones does
the human body have? And like my friend Andy Spear
and my phone instructor was like two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Six, and I was like, uh, to are in seven.
That's fat. I'm like, I have an extra, but thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So I've been running on this ankle like I run
across country, track and field in middle school and in
high school. And then I kept dancing and I was like, oh,
but I just have a bad inkle because it's also
like my turning leg from dance. You're always like using
that inkle to go on relevay or on your toes.
And I was just like, oh, I just have like
an unstable, bad ankle. And then I started running again.
(36:27):
This year I ran two marathons, a lot of half marathons,
and then this year I was like training for not
this year, sorry, last year I was training for another half.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And then all of a sudden, I was like, my
inkle pain is so bad.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, I went through like plantro fasciitis as well, but
I was like, my inkle pain is so bad. Like
I would wake up in the morning and I'd be
like limping and then I would have to go teach class.
And that's a lot of things that like people who
take our classes they don't know because we are athletes.
At the end of the day, we're teaching class every
day like NonStop. And if you can't teach class, then
(36:59):
you're not working, you know what I mean. So it's
like tough, and more so mentally because you feel like
you want to be there and you want to be
supporting people, but you also have to take time for
yourself because also like that's like my favorite thing to do,
just like you love.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Playing football, like I love teaching class.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Like running with you guys and doing psycond classes and
all that stuff. So I would still like go in
and like the team was gracious enough for to like
let me modify and teach like more walking classes, more
hiking classes, which is now how I got into my
deadly hikes that I teach. But slowly but surely, like
I had to take time off. I had to be like, Okay,
well maybe I can't run marathons because I don't want
(37:37):
to get surgery right now, Like right now, it's not
the time for me to get surgery on this and
like you never know, but I was like, maybe I
can't run marathons right now, but who says I can't
be a short distance girlipops, like I can't run a
five kre real fast.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And then I started focusing on that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I started running like twenty minutes twice a week slow,
just to see how my goal would react. Also, stability work,
a lot of strength training very important.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
And then I also.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Started to slowly incorporate a little bit more, a little
bit more and even at work, like increase sensensity, so
I would like run once at work. And then once
I started working, that was it like max twenty minutes.
And then I slowly started increasing the time on.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
My feet and my body started reacting. Well.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
There were times where I took it overboard and I
would wake up and I would be in pain or
I wouldn't be like limping. But I slowly just started
to increase. And I actually ran two half marathons this year.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And you and youpr No, I wasn't. You didn't no
second one. You did so fast. That's not a pr
for me. I'm sorry, fast Ridder, she was way faster
than me. Let me tell you that. Give yourself some credit. Okay,
you're fast, well, that's really great that you're able to share,
(38:54):
you know, what got you through those injuries, because I'm
sure our listeners as well have gone through them or
are going through some. And like you mentioned like setting
yourself up for like a five k or like twenty minutes,
Like guys like do what you can with what you can.
You don't always have to go for that half. You
don't always have to go for that full. Like listen
to your bodies, right, and if you're like limited in
(39:15):
your lower body, there's a lot of upper body training
that you can do.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
If you're limited in your upper body, there's a lot
of lower body training that you can do using your
body weight or modifying things. So just try to find
a way around it always because there is a way.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
For you to.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Maybe maybe you're like like me, like I was, like
I'm a runner, but maybe like running is not what
my body is reacting to properly right now. Maybe I
need to cycle, Maybe I need to do pilates, yoga
like bodies.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, so thinking.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
About what you can do versus what you can't do
is super important. And also just like knowing that every
single injury and every single like road is so different and.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You talked about.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You were telling me that you dislocated your shoulder ones disgusting,
so painful. One time I was doing like snatches and
I don't know what happened to my roal theater cuff.
I didn't like dislocate it, but I couldn't moved my
arm for five days because something happened to my shoulder
and I was like immobilized completely, Like a shoulder injury.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's so bad. Oh knocks you out? Yeah, no, it does,
Like you feel it when you're like breathing. It hurts
so much, but you always come back. Yeah, you do.
Never forget it. All right. Well, that's it on getting
over injuries. And now we're going to talk to you
in the segment that.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I love, which is called agamesa Baby.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That's right where I leave you with my Rex in
the world of sports, and he leaves you with the
Rex in the world of music. Baby.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
But Many tell us what's going on? What do we
need to know right now? In the world of sport?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So it is, well, the FIFA World Cup is about
to kick off.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Many is booked and busy this summer. Let me tell you, yes,
I am.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, let me correct myself there's a lot of soccer
that is about to happen over the next year. And
when I say about World Cup, that's next year. This
summer is a FIFA Club World Cups and it's literally
about to kick off in just a few days.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And guess who's gonna be working it.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
My girl, obviously, that's right. I will be in the studio.
She called me. She's like, I'm not going to see
you this summer.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I know.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I'm like, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
My life is going to be football like always this summer.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
But I'll see you after. Yeah. But the FIFA Club
World Cup, it's thirty two teams from all over the
world that will be competing to lift the FIFA Up
World Cup FIFA Club World Cup trophy. They are playing
this tournament here in United States. This is the first
time FIFA Club World Cup will be competing like of
this state. It's a tournament that has been done before
(41:43):
with a lesser amount of teams and usually in December,
and this is now created as a summer tournament by FIFA.
And I think the most exciting thing about it is
that you'll see clubs from around the world actually competing
against each other because there's always been like, Oh, who's
the best club in the world?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Is it Buyer Munich? Is it Manchester City? Uh?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Is it MLS Clubs? Is it South American Clubs?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Like? Which which is the best club? We're gonna We're
gonna find out. Yeah, that's why the FIFA Club World
Cup is about your opinion, though I'm early for prediction. Yeah, okay, okay,
we'll pull you in a little later.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
It kicks off June fourteenth, so make sure you tune in.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
You can catch me covering a bunch of the games
on T and T Okay, so I'll be on an
analyst at the dfore my girl, you guys, we gotta
tune in. We gotta watch her.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know, you know I'll be yelling for my living
room and recording you.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I love those videos by the way, and whenever you
guys talk me in them as well, like that was
always making me so happy. Anyway, what about you got
me so?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Actually I had the pleasure of.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Meeting the one and only Gloria stuff. I can believe
these were Gloria is stefan girl. My inner child is
like jumping. And also my mom would be crazy, like
she would go crazy if she's insane.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
And Emilio, who's an icon by the way, I love him.
So she's really seeing a new album, which is insane
because it's been so long. She's dropped an album. It's
called Risis, and it's pretty much taking things back to
where they started, back to the roots. And the funny
thing about this album, well not funny, but interesting, is
(43:22):
that Gloria mentioned, which I thought it was very respectable
as a creative myself, is that she's like, I'm working
on too.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Many projects right now.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Imdia call me and he was like, I want to
make an album and now I want to take it
back to the roots. And she was like, honey, I'm
working on so much. She's like on a Broadway. They
have a movie I think apparently coming out okay, and.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
She was like, she was like, I will do it.
He was like, I'll write it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So he wrote the whole album for her, Oh my god,
and there's love songs for him. I don't want to
specifically in there that he wrote for himself, and.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
You hear the lyrics and you're like, this is so cute.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Like I'm like like, okay, icon, write your own love song. Yeah,
you just got to TELP communication. You got to tell
them what they need to hear. And if they don't
write the love song for you got to write it
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I wouldn't like, I wish you could write myself a
love song? Could you write yourself a love song? No,
I should try one day. Yeah, that's amazing that way.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
So how was it meeting them? Oh, they're just like
pure professionals and through like they are just so kind,
so generous.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Amelia Stephone pretty much called me a fetus and I
was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
He was like he was like, you know, we hope
to inspire the new generation of a young artist and
young people. And he going like this with his hand
at me, and I was like, I was like, thank you, sir,
I am a baby.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You're right fetus right here. So that was really cute.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
And you know, apparently take my classes.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
They was really sick. Are you like? I know you?
I was like, oh shit, that's crazy, my boy. You
know of course he is. So that was a true honor.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, And I like.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Recorded a TikTok with her and I was like, I'm
not going to touch her unless she like touches me
but she went like this with her shoulder and she
started dancing on me.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
So I was like, well, let me scoil her real quick,
like I like dance with her a little bit. The
video was adorable.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, they're so nice, and honestly, the album is really great.
It is really like a really amazing reflection of their
music and and and the stories behind, you know, like
the music videos and how she was inspired by her
families and like family photographs. It's it's really beautiful to witness.
So like, once those music videos start dropping, unless you
(45:43):
start seeing those things, make sure that you go check
it out and spread the word because honestly.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Like it's Gloria and media stuff on, Like, their family
is so talented. Even their their daughter yes on the drums,
yes beast. I remember watching like these YouTube videos of
her on the drums and I'm like, wow, I think
she also sings. I'm like, dang, they are a talented family.
That's amazing talented family.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Cool, well, my girl, I think that's a wrapper this
week's episode.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
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Speaker 1 (46:46):
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Hello everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Melissa Orties, I'm Camilla.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm on and this is.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We're back, and we're in your apartment.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We are in our apartment, in my apartment. You're more
than what those who move in whenever you'd like, thank you.
I don't want to pay rent though, so our setup
is actually insane.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm pretty much locked into my l shape couch like
there's no way for me to get out.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Un let's not.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I hop over like three thousand pieces of equipment. I
also have my hair curly today, which is not a
normal situation. I just went to a curly hair event yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And you got inspired by the curls. Usually my hair
is more curlier. And today's stream what's going on? What's
going on? And that's on hair health. Anyway, you guys
thought that we like to catch up before we get
into things.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We already started with that Millie's drinking cafecito that I
made for her. How is it like, because I know
you're a cafecito's not well?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I love it, it says Miami mommy, my, Miami momy,
because that's what I am.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Now you are Miami mommy, and I just finished Amacha latte. Honestly,
this is a really good cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Really, girl, Okay, you have bro you got mauris the potential. Okay,
it's not me, it's a machine. Let's be real. Let's
be real.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I just want to gi a shout out somebody, because
she's been flying back and forth for all these interviews
to New York City. You just came up again.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Like, I know, I ain't complaining, but my hat does
say New York or nowhere, baby, so I guess it's
on brand, right right, I have New York on my
head and Miami and on my cup, like I'm upset.
I guess I'm just like a by city girlie.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
She is a really really and honestly, I've been trying
to convince her to hang out with me more often.
I literally, you're already welcome to living.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
She was just in Puerto Rico. I was, oh my gosh,
we need to catch up because you were there too.
So I'll tell you really quickly about my Puerto Rico trip,
which was unreal. So my husband is Puerto Rican born
and raised in Santurse for all you Puerto Rican listeners,
and what was so special about this trip is that
I've been back to per like ten times or so,
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and this one was cool because it felt like like
we almost lived there, like not live there, but meaning
we didn't do like the hotel thing at first, like
we stayed at his you know, family house. We worked
from there for a bit. That's the way to do it,
you know. We went to go play paddle. If any
of you play paddle or paddel however you say that word.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But before I love it how they pronounce.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
It in Spanish, yeah and English. I get kind of
confused that I'm not sure if it's paddle or padel. Yeah,
I don't know. We'll go for me. And then I
came up to New York for forty eight hours. I
saw you.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We interviewed couple. I know if you guys haven't listened
to the episode, you used to listen immediately like Nana.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well keep talking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We're like, we need to go back just to take
away some of these nuggets that this guy was saying
that we're so amazingly positive and inspiring. Like I'm going
to be listening to that one on repeat repeats. Listen
if you skipped it, Yeah, okay, so definitely go back
to that episode. But how what was your favorite part
about Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
As soon as I got back from that interview that
we did with couple and I did a Global Citizen,
I hosted a panel for Global Citizen. Was super cool?
Was it your panel again?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Hugh Jackman, who by the way, by the way, he's
so tall and they we're gonna say hot.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean that too. You knows he's awesome. He's such
a lovely guy. So Humble just has like really great energy.
So it was a really fun event to be able
to host the panel with the CEO of Global Citizen.
And Uh I got back and this is my favorite
part about the Puerto Rico trip. We went to Krakolera
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is an island part of Puerto Rico, but off of
the main island of Puerto Rico. And you have to
either a take a little a little plane with propellors.
Could never and I already know your story because you're
not doing that again.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, and cr I was traumatized and I will never
get back on one of those mosquito planes.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I have no business being on there. No, and neither
do you. No avoid at all costs. I'm like scared
of those little planes. So I always should happily sit
my ass on a ferry for an hour and a half.
I don't even I'll risk getting seasick. I'll lish that
like okay, like a little.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Vomb here and there. It's okay, I'm just kidding into it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, you made it. I made it without puking, without puging.
So it was awesome with a group of friends. And y'all,
if you ever go to Puerto Rico, or say, for instance,
this summer because Bad Bunnie's tour, because residency is everything,
figure out the day we're going, we're going, you definitely
need to make Kulera part of that trip to puer Rico.
It is absolutely beautiful. It's one of the best beaches
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in the world, like proven hashtag facts, pristine waters. It's
literally you're living on island time and island life. And
that was just amazing. And you know what else was
my favorite part. What you know, when you're just at
the beach and you're like obviously wishing for no clouds
in the sky, just sun, just you know, your best life. Honestly,
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there's no lightning. I'm down exactly no, exactly there wasn't
any lightning, and it was one of the most like calming,
most most relaxing. The waters were crazy like still kind
of clear and just I just really just soaked it
in as it poured, and oh god, I love that.
That's like Mama, Pacha Mama, how you pacha Mama. That's
also just like you being grounded and like in like
I don't know, in nature, and yeah, I needed that. Anyways,
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tell me about your Puerto Rico trip. Oh. I went
to Puerto.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Rico with Peloton and I friendly got to stage and
in person like live class that met myself and Ivent.
It was absolutely incredible. I just remember like people putting
their arms up and like I saw like eight hundred
hands go up and my heart dropped.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It was like a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Just like connecting with everybody in and everyone there's so nice. Yeah,
people like a vibe like shout out to you because
you were not like y'all are just like on point.
But yeah, that was that was really really incredible. I've
been I've also been traveling a lot back and forth
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within the last couple of months. Obviously, now you guys
have seen that we dropped some Miami Senia content on Peloton,
which was really dope, and and yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You know, what's so cool about your event that you
did in Puerto Rico with Helton because I went to
Portrica like ten days after, which kind of stucks because
we just missed each other and we were trying to
make it work. But I was hanging out with some
friends and they were like, oh my gosh, your friends
are coming bah. Like yeah, they're like, we were just at
her event. It was so amazing, and y'all guess but
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they told me. They told me that when they released
like the announcement of the event, that there was gonna
be a peltanvan in Puerto Rico. As soon as they
released Comi LA's name, that she was going to fly
down for it. They had to change venues to make
it larger because so many more people like signed up
because of you girl. You guys.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, they literally told me that again for the fifth
fifteen thousand times this week.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's been a rough week, but we're in here. No,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I yeah, I'm so grateful for every single person that
I met out there, and like everyone was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It was just it was just so great to connect
with people.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And it's just just a real moment because I remember
like about to go on stage and I was like
perto rico and they were like ah and I was like, ohla, wow,
like these are my people because you forget because you're
like behind a screen and you're like never see people
ira And it was just like, so.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Does to be like, Okay, this is.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
My people, Like they get me, they understand it was
we got to do it to do an event sometime. Yeah. Yeah,
would you guys like that? Would I think it would?
We would turn up.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I think we would turn I don't. I don't think.
I know. I don't want to say like that because
here's my thing. When I go out.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
If I'm like, oh, we're going in.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Then I get crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But if I'm like, oh no, no, I'm just gonna
be mad chill tonight, it's gonna be cute and then
it'll be normal.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So I'm gonna be super chill.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Are potentially future mommy cloud see claud because to a
video of me.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
To working up beside down at the club.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Literally that's all I want.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh well, and.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I actually got to live a childhood, live out a
child Yes, yes, we went to that one because you've
done You've done two really cool things.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Okay, we'll talk you here. Well, Milly and I were like,
are you going to Shikia? And then we're like, oh,
we really want to go.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So then I of a sudden I got an email in
my inbox. I was like, do you want to walk
out with Shaky down Her concert? And I said me,
I would love to walk out.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
With Shy down Her. I was like, I didn't get
that email.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
This little baby girl, cam Ramona, had one CD called
I told the story a billion times. I keep saying it.
And when I left for Monandina and I immigrated to
the United States, I had that one CD and I
would listen to it, and I had a CD player
listened to my back to back while I was saying bye.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
To my AILI does crying on the plane crying.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I was very sad growl because I was just wripped
away from my family. And then when I came to
the United States and I was just like living in
like my parents' friend's house for the first couple of months,
I was just like listening to that CD and I
got to meet her. Mind you, she had done a
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seventy person like paid fan meet and greet before the
fifty person like VIP meet and greet.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That we were in. So she had her and she
was already.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Forty five minutes late to her show, which is before
the show, before the show.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Which is insane. And I can't even because the amount
of attention that you.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Have to give people as like you're meeting them like
you don't want to be like disconnected or like rude
or anything, like.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You want to give people time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, So I can only imagine before she and her
show was long physically mentally like demanding. She had like
eighteen thousand outfit changes which were all engrazing, crazy, insane. Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So I walked up to her and the words didn't
come out. They didn't though. I was like.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was like, I was like, I just want to
tell her likely sound on her others. I was like, hey,
I don't know what I told her.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
In the beginning. I was like, thin girl, I was like,
and she was like yeah, but I felt.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Weird invading her space. So I kind of did an
air hug, like I didn't squeeze her, you know. I
was like, I don't want to do that too.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You don't know me.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, and you probably have that happened to you
so many times that you're like I could just imagine her.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
She's like, I don't want to get sick. This bitch
has germs, you know what I mean, Like I'm trying
to get you sick.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I love you, but I like hugged her like openly, respectfully,
and then we took a picture.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
My hair it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Intertwined and intertwined like Avatar. With her, we became one,
and my hip was against her hip. The most famous
iconic hips in the entire universe, in this universe and
every parallel universe, like there is no way that Shakida's
hips are not the most famous and iconic one.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And then on my way out, I was like and
she was like a and then she like she like yeah,
I just like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Camila, thank you so much, Camila, get out of here,
like okay bye. And then we like ran around and
we had to wear these like silver ponchos, so we
like put on the silver ponchos.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
No, we didn't put on the silver ponnchos.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
The girls like where the girl was supposed to like
take us, she like we lost her.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So then all of a sudden, we see her. She's
like hyer. Shiki was already there ready to walk out,
and I don't even have my poncho on, so I
was like, I need my poncho. I was like, I'm
going to miss my opportunity to walk out with Shaki
out there. Where's my pancho? Where's my poncho? Until finally
they gave us the puncho.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But the ponchos were folded up like fun and stuck
together because it was like a plastic.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
So I was like like, try to be calm. And
then I put my paunch on and then the hood
was like attached to my forehead. I was like, can
you fix me?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And the glasses were like these silver glasses and you
actually couldn't see anything.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like so, and then I saw Robin, so I like.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I literally grabbed Robin's hand because I was like I
cannot see period.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I couldn't see in front of me.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
No, like a little bit, but like there's so many lights,
like I don't know how the other girls could see.
So then I just like grabbed Robin's hand and I
was like, by yas if I fall, they fall, but
we didn't fall.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
We made it, and it was a dream come true
for this.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And then I went up to you and I was like, hey, Mannie,
I was like, and we had a drink and I
was talking about your mom because it was your mom's
bird birthday.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I'm so proud of you, honestly because I know how
much you love Chucky. Like once once we Cammy and
I were in the car in Miami, just driving and
we were like, you know, just singing out loud to
music as one does, as friends do in the in
the car, and she puts on Shakida playlist and she
was like word for word, lyric by lyric, just like
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belting out Shakira song And like, I know a lot
of songs by Shakida.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
But the old, old old ones I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Know all the lyrics are those ones. And so I
know how much Shakida means to you, and for you
to have that moment, yeah, it's just like full circle
right and everything.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I always said like there's two people that I like,
really would like die to me. One of them was Shakida.
Who's gonna when I met her?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Missy Ah, which you meant, let's let's try to make
that happen. And you touched his shoulder and you touch
her hips. But yeah, So then at the Shakira concert
you told me you were like, I'm walking on stage whatever,
and so the best he's the biggest hype girl, you
mean in your life.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The video that you sent me so icond of I
posted it. It's on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
She's like, that's my read. You the best angle, the
best shot girl. I stood up on chairs to get
that angle. Okay, I risk my life. But the perfect
part was that shout out Live Nation and shout out
to WMME like they offered me these tickets and it
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all came through just perfectly because where my seats were
on the floor, it was right next to where you passed.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So I was like, oh my gosh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And then yeah, so, like Commy said, afterwards, she came by,
she said hi to my parents, me and my husband,
and we had to drink together and then we were dancing,
we were singing, we were screaming at the top of
our live yea to night. If Shakira is still on
tour and you guys are debating on whether the go,
don't debate it. No, you need to go. And to
be honest, with you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
When the show first started, I was like, I feel like,
for such a big artist, like she should have like
a little bit more going on, like the production. Like
I was like, maybe she needs, like I don't know,
like a bigger wolfhead or like something that she's like
comes up. But then that's how she was doing like
her newer like pop kind of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But then towards the end.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
She really like she was really it was just her,
Like her dancers were gone, it was just her.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
She doesn't need anybody else. No, she started doing her
shakida thing. The hips were moving, like, the hair was flying.
She was doing this move.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Where she like lifts her boobs up in the air,
and I was like, that's the new doing at the club.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
No, she literally goes like this, okay, oh yes, she
like smacks her boobs up, and I'm like, one time,
and did you see that documentary? Girl? Did I see it?
I could? You cried?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
No, I cried the bitch went into the Hudson though. Yeah,
that's that was I saw that. And I was like
I don't like, no, I got say, okay, that.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Was I was like I saw it in New York
and literally the crowd at the same time. They were
all like, because if you.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Are from or live in New York, like you know,
you ain't put enough finger in the HUDs. She's like
Then next say, I was sick and I had to perform.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I was like, I wonder why girl literally no, but
she's she's another one that's like so beyond inspiring. I
went to her premiere. I finished class at six thirty yep.
I got into the car at six forty six thirty
three actually because we had a minute stretch. But by
the time I ran out, I just had everything like
ready and like a blow dried. My left armpit really
stunk by the end of the night, but it was fine.
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Did you only apply to your right or was your
left just more sweaty? This one just I don't know.
My left arm smells them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, sometimes it has to me too, I know.
No joke. Actually not like TMI.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
But at the Shakira concert, I had like the sheer
long sleep.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, it was beautiful. Thank you, Maji. Shout out
to Maji. Colombian made bathing suits. It actually is a
bathing suit, but I were as a top. It's like
sheer and like, no, no joke. If you know, you know,
there's some shirts or materials that just like it will
collect your stink. That's the material that my dress was made.
It was like a mesh material. Yeah, that's fine, mesh.
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So I was like, say, what's that's a fair toe
in my fucking armit? Thank what? Like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
That was me like I feel like this is the
concert with my right and my left.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I was like, I was like, oh ship my left,
my left.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You were good, thank you. We were all sweaty.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah. Sure, Well, today's little we have. We had a
lot to catch up on. We still have more to
catch up on, but you know, we got to get
into the nitty gritty.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So today we're gonna be talking about overcoming.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Injury, right, which we both have a lot to talk about.
But stay where you're at. We got some more athlete break. Okay,
Today we're talking about the wear and tear of athletes,
whether it be a food ballista like Melly, basketball player,
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baseball player, softball literally, a fitness instructor person like myself
who I'm teaching NonStop pretty much every day of the week.
We all go through phases where we're feeling our body
is a little debilitated. Maybe we have more intense or
chronic or acute injury and we have to perform at
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a high level still or find ways to come back
as quickly as we can, or mentally deal with the
process of an injury.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, kind of you've dealt with injuries. I've dealt with injuries.
And even as latest recent news, there's been a lot
of major injuries that have been going on in different
perspective sports, be it basketball, soccer, course, like you said, volleyball,
you name it, and even big names. And I think
there's been a big highlight and emphasis in terms of
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why female athletes are getting injured, more specifically tearing their
acls at a Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You mentioned that this is related to your hormones.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yes, and I'll tell you why and more likely to
happen during your period. As if we needed anything else
to worry about, well literally lead out. But seriously, it
almost hurts just thinking about all that we have to
go through. But some significant names or examples Chelsea FC's
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Sam Kerr, she's still recovering from her ACL tear, christ
and pressed the place for Angel City. She tore hers
in twenty twenty two. It took her two years, two
years for surgeries to recover from that. When guys, usually
when you tear your ACL and knock on wood, I
need would I need?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Would do you have any wood? Any?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Shoot? Okay by association?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Usually when you chear your CL it takes around twelve months,
like twelve to fourteen months to recover. However, there could
be a bunch of like either relapses, there could be infections,
there could be you know, improper healing, scar tissue, a
lot of things that can come up when you do
get injured, be it your ACL, Oh I got wood,
Thank you. It was really important because I her this
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morning and that's like a big year. I was already sweating,
I was already swetting, and so yeah, there could be
a bunch of instances or occasions where you think maybe
aclchair is going to be one year, but a lot
of things can happen. Martha, for instance, also suffered an
ACL tair. She's the Brazilian legend soccer player. Cameron Brings,
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who is a w NBA rookie, suffered an ACL tair
last year in June. Juju Walkins, who also suffered an
ACL tear in March she is University of Southern California
as one of their best sophomores players and one of
her best seasons so far since arriving to the university,
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and to have to go through, you know, a major
injury like that is a huge setback, not only for
the program but also for the NC double A. So
or I want to go with this is just you know,
there has been a lack of studies, lack of importance,
lack of research as to why so many aclchairs happened
to female athletes. We've known this for such a long
time as athletes that women do suffer acl teal tears
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more than men. Yeah. But now, of course, because you know,
women's sports is getting more coverage, there's been a lot
more backing in terms of money being given to research
programs as to why this is happening. Thankfully, one of
the examples is Michelle King. She owns the Washington Spirit,
she owns olympicy On As Women, she owns London City Women.
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They're all soccer clubs, and she has invested millions and
millions of dollars so that more medical research goes into
figuring out why it's happening, but also how does it?
How can we make it more preventative? Yeah, And one
of the things that you mentioned comming was horbones. So
that's actually a really great point that you brought up,
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because obviously, when you're going through you know, a cycle,
your normal lucas, Yeah, you know, you have you go
through estrogen higher estrogen, lower estrogen, whatever is going on
throughout your cycle, and estrogen actually can affect the ligaments
and it actually potentially increases the laxity or the looseness
of your ligaments in your knees, which.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Is I mean that happens naturally too, like as when
you get pregnant, Yes, like your body prepares so that
your literal bones can expand. And that's why we limit
ourselves during pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Training to like remove.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Things that require high impacts, because you lose stability.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
In your joints for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So I can only imagine like when we're regularly fluctuating,
there's still those same hormones flowing through our body. When
when those fluctuations happen, we have a higher propensity to
get injured in that way. And then also something that
I'm reading is that the anatomical differences between men and women,
like I look at my husband Luciano, we both ran
cross country. He was always able to run faster than me.
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His anatomy is built differently like I look at myself
in the mirror next to time. His hips are so
different from mine. Yes, his quad ratio is like to
hamstring ratio is so different from So that also supposedly
leads to a dot percentage.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, and like you said, like the anatomy, So women's hips,
like the way that your hips are shaped and go
inwards or however your body is built, can also affect
that where men's hips aren't built like that because obviously,
you know, we as women will or do carry babies,
you know. So another reason why this has happened so
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much for female athletes is because there's been a lack
not only of studies as I mentioned, but also a
lack of like strength training preventative programs for female athletes
from you know, youth age to current day, which there
has to be a bigger emphasis in terms of youth
sports schools. You know, you know, remember when you go
(23:47):
to pe, like you would just go out and play.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, you just like do a couple jumping jacks and like, okay,
go out to the field, which I mean when you're
a kid is fine because you are just more nimble
and less likely to be in But as life progresses
and we stop stretching, we stop moving as often we're
sitting down at our desks from nine to five and
then or maybe not maybe you're an athlete, but also
(24:11):
like our bodies, like movement takes a.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Toll on the body as well, especially.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
If you're not focusing on recovery and you're not doing
strength training leading up to it. I think one of
the things that I'm like very proud I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think I know.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
One of the things that I'm very proud of, like
that we do have Pelson, for example, is we have
strength programs that a is like strength for runners, strength strength.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
For soccer players.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So we have those things that we offer because we
know the importance of it. And I am primarily a
cardio forward girly, which within itself leads to a lot
of overuse injuries that I've had to deal with over
my life that we'll get into a little bit later.
But one of the things that I always say is
like you want to run faster, and you want to
run for the rest of your life, like, you have
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to be doing strength training, and you have to be
moving throughout all planes of motion. You can't just be
going front and back your entire life.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And I think you landed on a really great talking point,
which is strength training. If you all want to prevent
these type of injuries as much as possible, please please
please strength train. And like Gomi mentioned, your quad to
hamstring ratio is very different. Everyone's different. Some people have,
you know, stronger hamstrings than quads. Your stronger quads and hamstrings.
(25:23):
And actually, when I was a professional soccer player, they
would really tell us. We would like, we would do
so many hamstring exercises because you already are quad are
set dominant, Yeah, especially as a soccer player, and so
we would do, oh my god, we would do so
many eccentric strength training exercises for our hamstrings because that's
(25:44):
what's really strength. And when you have that, that's what's
really weak. When you have that imbalance between those muscles,
that is what happens what could really leave to sometimes
getting acl tears or muscle injuries. So, yeah, guys, thankfully
we are in an era where there's a lot of
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studies being done and hopefully, like This is something that's
going to keep on being researched and studied and hopefully
find more preventive ways so that female athletes aren't suffering
these injuries more frequently.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's a very devastating injury to or diagnosis to receive,
like acl tair. Surely, so any preventive measures that we
can take to make the life better for these athletes
that are already, like you know, working against all odds,
so like make it in these.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Fields is very important.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And even if you're not a pro athlete, like these
conversations are important because you might still be a woman
on the other side playing sport looking to get fit
and hearing this should motivate you to make sure that
you are doing the things that you need to do,
strength training, recovery, stretching, all these preventative measures so that
(26:58):
this never happened to you and even if it does,
do not worry you do come back from it, which
we'll get into a little bit later, but as of
right now, we're gonna pop to break, but stay with us.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Welcome back to the show. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
We've been talking about injuries and my girl Meddi Borida,
she suffered a big injury right before a huge event
I did to say the least.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I did, Let's just say it was incredibly heartbreaking. I
tore my achilles five days before the FIFA Women's World
Cup in the twenty fifteen one. Honestly, it was like
the last big event tournament that was on my bucket
list to performing in or to compete in, and like
(27:49):
I was dealing with achilles tendonitis for six months. And
what's really effed up about the whole situation is that
that FIFA Women's World Cup was played on turf in Canada,
which would never happen in the game, by the way,
and it was a law suit against FIFA as well.
But anyways, the whole tournament was played on turf. So
before the tournament actually started, our national team was training
(28:10):
on turf because we had to get used to the
way the ball you know, bounces, moves, passes everything, because
it's different than playing on you know, it's different playing
on artificial grass than natural grass. So the like really
high impact the turf, It really like messes up your joints. Yeah,
and so I had been completing to my team doctors
(28:32):
for quite a while and saying my achilles both of
them are really hurting, and you know, they just like
because it was the women's team and at the men's team,
they were like, oh yeah, just like ice heat massage,
like nothing major, Like they never sent me to actually
get tested or have a MRI or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
When you also had such limited resources, Yeah, for sure,
like we were. We weren't even getting paid.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So yeah, like it just it sucked obviously because it
was my dream. It was everything I worked for. I
was at the peak of my career. I was playing
the best like I think football in that position I
had been playing ever. I was peaking. Like I said,
I had offers to play professionally in Japan right after
(29:16):
at the World Cup. And it wasn't just the Women's
World Cup, it was also the Pan American Games, which
I got left off the roster for, which was the
month after that. So so yeah, I had to deal
with that. And when I tell you, I was like
at the lowest of my lows ever, You're one of the.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Most positive people that I've met in my life, Like many.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Is just like always positive, Like I'm glad today.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I admire that about her, But I can only imagine
how devastating a moment like that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It was bad.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
How did you deal with your mindset? Like did you
grow therapy?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I did a little bit of therapy more towards the
latter end of my recovery because I was, you know,
you get back to from injury and you have to
you have to have faith in like your rehab, like
that you have you have strong muscles again, that your
achilles isn't going to retear. So I actually had to
work with a sports psychologist to like really like hone
(30:08):
in on my mental strength to be like you're gonna
be fine, like your your acceleration, your you know, your touches,
your sprints, you know, your tackles, like everything, You're like,
nothing's going to happen. You're going to be fine. But
I had to work through that. But I want to
say this is that like whenever you're going through obviously
something hard in life or like an injury. It's so
(30:29):
cliche to sometimes say this, but like everything happens for
a reason, and that's where you met your man's and
for me, that reason was love, which is crazy because
I had just broken up with my boyfriend of that
time of five years and I was a month single.
(30:50):
But like more just fully focused in on the World Cup.
I was like, I'm playing a World Cup. I'm gonna
go play internationally afterwards. Like that's that's what I want
to dedicate now, like to I don't want to be
hung up over like this breakup and let usta whatever.
But when the world came crashing down on me and I,
you know, obviously tore my achilles, I was really depressed
because obviously I let I missed out in the World Cup,
(31:12):
on the Pan American Games, and I was like, you know,
my god, I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Have a boyfriend anymore. Like it's just like you're missing.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Everything that happened at the same time.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, but life, when when you're personal in your professional
life both like kind of fumble at the same time,
that's when you really hit a lolo.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That was me. Yeah, but y'all things happened for them.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
She opened she opened her dating app.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I did open it. She swept Which way do you swipe? Noticed,
because I don't know. Swipe left, white, right, swipe right.
You swipe right if you like him, right, swipe left
if it's the past.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
The pack th right seems right, like right seems the
right way to go. Yeah, yeah, so she swiped right
and found the right man, right, yeah, and the one and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Only rescue you. Yes, I did so, and.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The right the right one, and the reason of like
perfect for each other.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
She like came out her love so much.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
She was like, she's like, find yourself a man who
watches women's sports.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
He was just like watching. Yeah, It's amazing how life
works in like such mysterious ways, and like you don't
know it at the time, what you're going through. You
don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, right,
And I told him as many times, like he was
that light at the end of my tunnel.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And when we eventually got married, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Years later, I was like in our in our wedding day,
I was like, I love you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
You know, things happened for a reason. I'm like, but
you owe me a World Cup.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
But yeah we did.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We did meet on a dating app, which is crazy
to say. I have a question about your mindset, because
what was it that you told yourself that got you
through that moment, Because like you can get you can
go low and stay there and like it's very tough
to like get out of there and also like rebuild
your mindset. But what did you tell yourself when you
were in the low moment that got you out of there.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I remember like already putting a goal, like being super
goal oriented, like I'm like, okay, I'm on day one
of recovery. I can't even walk, like I was in
crutches for three months, and I remember just setting my
goal and that goal was to get back and play
in the Olympics. But like even if Olympics weren't had
hadn't had been that goal, it would have been like, Okay,
(33:19):
my goal is to run, you know, and I would
do like mini goals, so it's like, okay, my goal
is like once the no literally like take this, put
your foot on the floor.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I couldn't put my phone on the floor.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And then like it was like that was like that
was already like scoring a goal, and the like my
next goal was like okay, to walk, then to run,
then to drive because I couldn't drive for three months
and then you know what I mean. But honestly, like
through it all, my family was where they were so
great there, there were incredible support. Music for me was
everything at the time because it just like made me
feel happier, It made me also feel like really ingrained
(33:51):
in my culture and like being with the national team
because like the national team who listened to so much music.
What was so cute was when when I met my
you know them boyfriend now husband off dating app. We
weren't even like we were just chatting, you know, and
like he had known that I was injured and all
that stuff, and he made me a playlist. He made
me an injury playlist, and it was what was it called, like, Oh,
(34:12):
it was called meng Yeah, that's so cute.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's all like manga, and he.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Knew because it's so embarrassing. I had had a scooter.
I was in a boot, and so I had a scooter.
I had a basket on my scooter, and I had
like a little little boombox, a little stereo in my basket,
and I was like go around the house, like the
neighborhood whatever. And so I would put the playlist in
my basket on the schooner and that was like, that
was happiness for me. So you just have to find
(34:39):
like certain outlets that will like ignite that type of
like light in you, whether that's through your family, whether
it's like your culture like music, whether that's I don't know,
through finding a new hobby, and that's some of the
things that like I did through that time. And I'm
so grateful that life worked how it lifed and brought
me love in a way that like I never thought
(35:00):
I knew at the time when I was so depressed. Yeah,
so and.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
You're allowed to be down, Like yeah, nobody's saying like, oh,
you get injured, like you have to find a goal
the next day, like take your time, feel like shit.
If you have to feel like shit, I like know
there's an out, and there's like so many things, especially
as you continue to rehab and take care of yourself,
Like there's so.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Many other things that you can do.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
And I think that's one of the things that I
focused on as well with I've never had an injury
as serious as the one that you had, but I've
I've had a lot. I've dealt with a lot of
like over you stuff, Like I had a really bad
knee when I was training for my marathon that had
to postpone my races for I honestly found out that
I have an extra bone in my foot, and running
(35:44):
has always been my life. Like I the other day,
we were doing We were doing like a summit and
one of the questions was like, how many bones does
the human body have? And like my friend Andy Spear
and my phone instructor was like two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Six, and I was like, uh, to are in seven.
That's fat. I'm like, I have an extra, but thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So I've been running on this ankle like I run
across country, track and field in middle school and in
high school. And then I kept dancing and I was like, oh,
but I just have a bad inkle because it's also
like my turning leg from dance. You're always like using
that inkle to go on relevay or on your toes.
And I was just like, oh, I just have like
an unstable, bad ankle. And then I started running again.
(36:27):
This year I ran two marathons, a lot of half marathons,
and then this year I was like training for not
this year, sorry, last year I was training for another half.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And then all of a sudden, I was like, my
inkle pain is so bad.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, I went through like plantro fasciitis as well, but
I was like, my inkle pain is so bad. Like
I would wake up in the morning and I'd be
like limping and then I would have to go teach class.
And that's a lot of things that like people who
take our classes they don't know because we are athletes.
At the end of the day, we're teaching class every
day like NonStop. And if you can't teach class, then
(36:59):
you're not working, you know what I mean. So it's
like tough, and more so mentally because you feel like
you want to be there and you want to be
supporting people, but you also have to take time for
yourself because also like that's like my favorite thing to do,
just like you love.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Playing football, like I love teaching class.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Like running with you guys and doing psycond classes and
all that stuff. So I would still like go in
and like the team was gracious enough for to like
let me modify and teach like more walking classes, more
hiking classes, which is now how I got into my
deadly hikes that I teach. But slowly but surely, like
I had to take time off. I had to be like, Okay,
well maybe I can't run marathons because I don't want
(37:37):
to get surgery right now, Like right now, it's not
the time for me to get surgery on this and
like you never know, but I was like, maybe I
can't run marathons right now, but who says I can't
be a short distance girlipops, like I can't run a
five kre real fast.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And then I started focusing on that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I started running like twenty minutes twice a week slow,
just to see how my goal would react. Also, stability work,
a lot of strength training very important.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
And then I also.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Started to slowly incorporate a little bit more, a little
bit more and even at work, like increase sensensity, so
I would like run once at work. And then once
I started working, that was it like max twenty minutes.
And then I slowly started increasing the time on.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
My feet and my body started reacting. Well.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
There were times where I took it overboard and I
would wake up and I would be in pain or
I wouldn't be like limping. But I slowly just started
to increase. And I actually ran two half marathons this year.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And you and youpr No, I wasn't. You didn't no
second one. You did so fast. That's not a pr
for me. I'm sorry, fast Ridder, she was way faster
than me. Let me tell you that. Give yourself some credit. Okay,
you're fast, well, that's really great that you're able to share,
(38:54):
you know, what got you through those injuries, because I'm
sure our listeners as well have gone through them or
are going through some. And like you mentioned like setting
yourself up for like a five k or like twenty minutes,
Like guys like do what you can with what you can.
You don't always have to go for that half. You
don't always have to go for that full. Like listen
to your bodies, right, and if you're like limited in
(39:15):
your lower body, there's a lot of upper body training
that you can do.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
If you're limited in your upper body, there's a lot
of lower body training that you can do using your
body weight or modifying things. So just try to find
a way around it always because there is a way.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
For you to.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Maybe maybe you're like like me, like I was, like
I'm a runner, but maybe like running is not what
my body is reacting to properly right now. Maybe I
need to cycle, Maybe I need to do pilates, yoga
like bodies.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, so thinking.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
About what you can do versus what you can't do
is super important. And also just like knowing that every
single injury and every single like road is so different and.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You talked about.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You were telling me that you dislocated your shoulder ones disgusting,
so painful. One time I was doing like snatches and
I don't know what happened to my roal theater cuff.
I didn't like dislocate it, but I couldn't moved my
arm for five days because something happened to my shoulder
and I was like immobilized completely, Like a shoulder injury.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's so bad. Oh knocks you out? Yeah, no, it does,
Like you feel it when you're like breathing. It hurts
so much, but you always come back. Yeah, you do.
Never forget it. All right. Well, that's it on getting
over injuries. And now we're going to talk to you
in the segment that.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I love, which is called agamesa Baby.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That's right where I leave you with my Rex in
the world of sports, and he leaves you with the
Rex in the world of music. Baby.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
But Many tell us what's going on? What do we
need to know right now? In the world of sport?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So it is, well, the FIFA World Cup is about
to kick off.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Many is booked and busy this summer. Let me tell you, yes,
I am.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, let me correct myself there's a lot of soccer
that is about to happen over the next year. And
when I say about World Cup, that's next year. This
summer is a FIFA Club World Cups and it's literally
about to kick off in just a few days.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And guess who's gonna be working it.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
My girl, obviously, that's right. I will be in the studio.
She called me. She's like, I'm not going to see
you this summer.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I know.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I'm like, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
My life is going to be football like always this summer.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
But I'll see you after. Yeah. But the FIFA Club
World Cup, it's thirty two teams from all over the
world that will be competing to lift the FIFA Up
World Cup FIFA Club World Cup trophy. They are playing
this tournament here in United States. This is the first
time FIFA Club World Cup will be competing like of
this state. It's a tournament that has been done before
(41:43):
with a lesser amount of teams and usually in December,
and this is now created as a summer tournament by FIFA.
And I think the most exciting thing about it is
that you'll see clubs from around the world actually competing
against each other because there's always been like, Oh, who's
the best club in the world?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Is it Buyer Munich? Is it Manchester City? Uh?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Is it MLS Clubs? Is it South American Clubs?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Like? Which which is the best club? We're gonna We're
gonna find out. Yeah, that's why the FIFA Club World
Cup is about your opinion, though I'm early for prediction. Yeah, okay, okay,
we'll pull you in a little later.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
It kicks off June fourteenth, so make sure you tune in.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
You can catch me covering a bunch of the games
on T and T Okay, so I'll be on an
analyst at the dfore my girl, you guys, we gotta
tune in. We gotta watch her.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know, you know I'll be yelling for my living
room and recording you.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I love those videos by the way, and whenever you
guys talk me in them as well, like that was
always making me so happy. Anyway, what about you got
me so?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Actually I had the pleasure of.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Meeting the one and only Gloria stuff. I can believe
these were Gloria is stefan girl. My inner child is
like jumping. And also my mom would be crazy, like
she would go crazy if she's insane.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
And Emilio, who's an icon by the way, I love him.
So she's really seeing a new album, which is insane
because it's been so long. She's dropped an album. It's
called Risis, and it's pretty much taking things back to
where they started, back to the roots. And the funny
thing about this album, well not funny, but interesting, is
(43:22):
that Gloria mentioned, which I thought it was very respectable
as a creative myself, is that she's like, I'm working
on too.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Many projects right now.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Imdia call me and he was like, I want to
make an album and now I want to take it
back to the roots. And she was like, honey, I'm
working on so much. She's like on a Broadway. They
have a movie I think apparently coming out okay, and.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
She was like, she was like, I will do it.
He was like, I'll write it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So he wrote the whole album for her, Oh my god,
and there's love songs for him. I don't want to
specifically in there that he wrote for himself, and.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
You hear the lyrics and you're like, this is so cute.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Like I'm like like, okay, icon, write your own love song. Yeah,
you just got to TELP communication. You got to tell
them what they need to hear. And if they don't
write the love song for you got to write it
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I wouldn't like, I wish you could write myself a
love song? Could you write yourself a love song? No,
I should try one day. Yeah, that's amazing that way.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
So how was it meeting them? Oh, they're just like
pure professionals and through like they are just so kind,
so generous.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Amelia Stephone pretty much called me a fetus and I
was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
He was like he was like, you know, we hope
to inspire the new generation of a young artist and
young people. And he going like this with his hand
at me, and I was like, I was like, thank you, sir,
I am a baby.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You're right fetus right here. So that was really cute.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
And you know, apparently take my classes.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
They was really sick. Are you like? I know you?
I was like, oh shit, that's crazy, my boy. You
know of course he is. So that was a true honor.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, And I like.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Recorded a TikTok with her and I was like, I'm
not going to touch her unless she like touches me
but she went like this with her shoulder and she
started dancing on me.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
So I was like, well, let me scoil her real quick,
like I like dance with her a little bit. The
video was adorable.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, they're so nice, and honestly, the album is really great.
It is really like a really amazing reflection of their
music and and and the stories behind, you know, like
the music videos and how she was inspired by her
families and like family photographs. It's it's really beautiful to witness.
So like, once those music videos start dropping, unless you
(45:43):
start seeing those things, make sure that you go check
it out and spread the word because honestly.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Like it's Gloria and media stuff on, Like, their family
is so talented. Even their their daughter yes on the drums,
yes beast. I remember watching like these YouTube videos of
her on the drums and I'm like, wow, I think
she also sings. I'm like, dang, they are a talented family.
That's amazing talented family.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Cool, well, my girl, I think that's a wrapper this
week's episode.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Thank you for hanging out with us. Make sure that
you guys drop.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
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Keep messaging us, let us know if you like the episode,
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Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.