August 19, 2025 • 49 mins
This week Cami and Meli bring on a professional to dive deeper into what it takes to be a high performing athlete and how the mental game is the number one component. Former Argentinian Olympic Swimmer turned Mental Performance Coach joins Hasta Abajo to talk about her coaching philosophy and approach!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the show, everybody. I'm Gamida Ramon and this
is a I am so excited about our episode today.
But first off, I want to say I met up
with some listeners over the weekend, which y'all tell me
that you are on your way to work sometimes when
you listen to this podcast, So I just want to
say that you are gonna have a beautiful and amazing day,
right elly, Absolutely, we have a beautiful show planned for
(00:25):
y'all today. We often talk about mental fortitude. It's one
of my favorite topics. I pick my friends' brains all
the time about it. But today we have a professional
here who works with professional athletes and has tips not
only for them, but also for you and I to
take to our daily lives, a mental performance coach. I
(00:45):
cannot wait to pick her brain about this.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's just let's go all right, y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I am so excited to speak to our special guest today.
She is a World Cup champion, an Olympian, a swimmer
turned mental performance coach aka the first mental coach, by
the way, in the history of the MLS and NWSL
in the USA.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Queen Queen.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Bad ass Etonian. I have to say this because right now,
I am the minority in this sense because we have
two Argentinians on this ship for once.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We always have so many Columbianos come on.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And that's why I did wear If you're watching the
show on video, I did wear this jersey.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What Juniors coming?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You might be offended. I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I was like excited to be on this and I'm like,
oh my gosh, what what fan are you in Argentina
And it wasn't Boca Juniors.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I was like, Okay, Alostina, thank you so much. I'm
so happy to be here. It's a thanks for thinking
about Argentines and welcome us and that way, Melissa and Camila,
Hello Arilo Argentinos.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So on every show, we start with a little girl talk,
cafecito matte and catch up. So I want to know
as a mental performance coach, before we get into the
nitty gritty, I want to know what your morning looks like.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Since I was a swimmer. Right now, we get up
super early, and I have that habit since I'm twelve.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So how early how early did you used to get
up for thirty four?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, I used to get up for twenty. Now I
do for forty to five o'clock, depending on what we
do in the morning and the club. But yes, well,
you know, I'm so fortunate to be working with so
many athletes around the world, so I need to be
flexible on the time. And you know, I'm in California,
and so I'm in nine hours behind Europe for example,
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of four hours behind Argentina or some Latin American countries.
So in order to be my best self, I need
to take care of my first first, and myself first. Sorry,
So I need to either swim or work out or
do something in the morning. I meditate as soon as
I get up. Of course we make the best, but
that's a given. And then I do a workout depending
(03:18):
of the day, and then I actually well, of course
the journal part is very important. We were talking about
habits before sutting recording. So I think in order for
me to be the best for because I work for
the best in the world, I need to be my
best self every day. And if I support and I
believe in generally for example or meditating, then I think
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I need to do it before and first.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Am I crunch, Cami crunch, that's something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
She said? That's a given.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Make the bed.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I was like, okay, normally I do, but today I
woke up in shambles, and that's okay. Somedays show your room,
show your room. In the process of like trying to
move someplace. So my life is a disaster. But I'm
trying my best and I'm not judging myself for it,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That is perfect coming. It's it's a part of it. No,
not doing it sometimes a part of then doing part,
so you appreciate it when you do it. And sometimes
you also find okay, I need to change. Sometimes we
said a habit, you know, in seven days, I don't
do it for four days. Maybe it's not the habit
the problem, the problem which is not a problem, it
is okay. Maybe the timing orders something to be a justice.
(04:28):
Like I love the part that you say you're not
judging yourself, which is so important.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I this is so funny that you mentioned the making
your bed, because I'm a big believer of making your
bed every morning. That's my that's like my own like, okay,
today is going to be a day.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
My husband, however, on the other hand, he doesn't believe
in that. He could just get out of bed and
do his day with the whole comforter or just and
I'm like, that freaks me out, and so I tell him,
I'm like, we got to make the bed of the morning.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
One thing I do want to ask you because you
mentioned meditating and journaling and Kami is a big believer
in journaling. Now, when you do meditate in the morning,
what is that like for you? How do you meditate,
where do you meditate, and what do you do when
you meditate?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Right? I meditate close to my bed. I always have
even if like now I'm meeting places or whatever I am,
I always have either my candle or my little Buddha
or something that represents for me. This is it, this
is the space. And well, breathing for me is really
important and it is a part of meditating to breathe
properly or do different exercises since it's a part of
(05:34):
how we stimulate, like the estimilate of the brain. Right,
what the lack of oxygen or how often you breathe
and how you also have so many benefits of your
heart and you know, so I think a part of
meditation is breathing and then depending the day, but usually
it's like fifteen minutes, sometimes anymore, a little twenty minutes,
(05:54):
maybe two. But at least my time in is the
eighteen men done again. As soon as you get up,
it doesn't have to be in any place special will
already leave and you have your energy. It's a really
special enough for you. I think it has to be
also the easiest way possible, so you actually do it. Otherwise,
the most important thing is the consistency. And it doesn't
(06:16):
matter if it's five minutes, two minutes, it's just a
moment that Okay, this is for meditating, This is for Britain,
this is for because to make up the bet is
just the habit. It's not about having your bed pretty.
Of course, it's nice to have you pretty, but that's
not the point, right, So it's just the whole habits
that really habits.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Okay, I want to get into the nitty gritty, like
I want to get into your mind, because you are
in the minds of like so many incredible people.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Day to day.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You're talking to them, you're coaching them through some of
the toughest mental moments of their lives to show up
on some of the biggest stages in the world right
and perform. Can you take us into a little bit
of your coaching philosophy and your approach.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes, of course. I think the way I work is
I put the person first, regardless of your sport. I
am again so blessed enough to be working with the
best in the world, but also the person in the world.
That these people we say best in the world because
if we talk about sports, but everyone should again deserve
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and needs to take it off their minds the same
way we're talking about, hey you need to walk twenty
minute today. Oh hey you need to be out tired.
You also need to be aware of the mental side.
The thing is we don't know that and our generations
and they don't. They never talked talked about that. We
talked about a little bit about health, the physical health,
but now this one. So the first part is to
(07:42):
put the person first. It's always and the most important
understanding that if you take care of that, you can
actually start focusing on your performance. But understanding how it works,
because again high performance it's all about pushing yourself and
be there, be the best. And this is how we
will how we learn it, but nobody actually taught us.
What is the meaning of that and what is the
(08:03):
price we're paying for it when you're retired. Again, nobody
wants to talk about retirement when we are performing because
what I don't want to do that, Like I don't
want to even think that that exists. But it will
come to a day that you have that divorce, like
we said with Melissa, or you're gonna more that like
it's a lost it lost the right that person that
(08:23):
you used to be, it's not there anymore. What are
you gonna do about that? But meanwhile, if they sometimes
I'm like, I wish I knew this, if they have
told us or me or mel what's going on. When
you do it, it's not like you stop doing it, but
you take care take care of yourself much better. You
still push yourself. Like I'm again, I'm a like an athletic,
like a swimmer. We are one of the hardest believers
(08:45):
in sorry, the best believers. That we're working hard is
really important and it's useful and you have to hear
by yourself. Right in swimming, you're by yourself, but there
are ways to do it to take care of your first,
like again, of yourself, first, of your person, of your mind,
of what are you feeling and then trying to translate
(09:06):
it into performance, so the more and it works because
again I work with the rest in the world in
the air sports and they take it theirselves and they
can do both. Now it's a FIRSTUS education is understanding. Hey,
the fact that I don't want to be training. This
is sound small, but it goes on the way. The
fact that I don't want to be training, that's I mean,
(09:27):
I'm a loser. I'm never gonna make it. I have
a problem. Now, you're not born for high performance, like
our brains are not wired for having to train six, seven,
whatever hours and then perform every single weekend for twenty years.
So it's not about you because remember, while we do
what we do, we are developing our self worth and
(09:48):
our identity and who we are and how much we
can't take. And for athletes is never it doesn't matter college, whatever,
it's never enough goes what do you do? For example, Well, hey,
how do I get better? Watch video? This is the
mistake that I made. Nobody's saying yeah, it can say
good job, mal, but you need to do this better
(10:10):
for years and day by day you're okay, Then I
have a you turn yourself to look for the bad
You turn yourself to look for the error or the mistake,
and if you don't explain that to the player and
the athlete and the emotional part that is like, I
make a mistake all the time. I'm tired of saying it.
That's why we don't want to go back and get
with and we don't want to go back and play
(10:32):
because you don't want to be judge anymore. And the
worst judgment or judge, sorry, is yourself. So it's training
that judge.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And I think that's also applicable to so many different
areas of life, like whether or not you're public speaking,
or somebody who is in a leadership position, somebody who's
looking to step out of their comfort zone and is
like getting a little bit more terrified and like scared
of what's to come. I was when when I first
(11:01):
joined Peloton, which is like very it's a very exposed profession.
I work on camera every day and there's thousands of
people on the other side of that take my classes.
I was terrified and I was having such a tough
time dealing with being so hard on myself during the
(11:22):
training process. I was like, this is not gonna happen
for me. They're not going to hire me. All these
different thought processes that were happening in my head that
also happened to so many different people when they're making
big life decisions. And I called up one of my
friends who is in a big leadership position and one
of the biggest organizations in the United States, and she
was like, high performing people have high performance self care routines.
(11:47):
After that, I made it my mission to make sure
that I was doing everything possible to take care of
my mind and myself so that I could show up
and at least like there's like a level of peace
of mind, or your baseline just increases so that whenever
you fall, you fall a little less low and you
have like a little bit of a higher like net
that's catching you. Or that's what it felt like for me.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And it's sorry, Melal Yes, yeah go on, no, no,
go go You're the yes go on no no big
bang is I forget? Sometimes we are recording, it's just
like a child with friends, you know, and any any day,
and it is again. I also it's not only athletes.
I also work with leaders, with CEOs, with coaches, with
even I I since I work with little kids. I
also talk to parents, you know, because we need to
(12:32):
do the follow up and how it is not about
the metal or okay, if you're not doing high performance sports,
it's it's it's human beings for everyone. And again, whatever
the results you want to, like you being exposed in
the billatone or whatever it is, that's a result. That's
why it's so important of what you do with yourself
(12:56):
because we are trained to be like, okay, let's say
an example, because from school, let's do that so we
I don't know, some people just study one, two, three,
whatever that is they need to and then go learn that,
take this exam, and then keep going with their life.
So it's a connection between the product and the person.
The ideal part or the thing that I tried to
(13:17):
work every day. Going back to the philosophy, is that's
what you're focusing on is the result. Now we are
the result of everything we have done in the last
six months, the most three months. So if you don't
like what you have today today is not you today today,
it is the product of you six months ago. So
(13:37):
you are like a few months away from whatever you
want to do. It's gonna be hard. I don't know,
you will be uncomfortable because you're changing partterns now that
we study the brain that the brain doesn't like change
because it's not safe. We don't know it's gonna get
you endangered. But if you understand, that's why it's so
important to put that first. Whatever you're doing now, it
(13:58):
is the result you have done. So it's like we
always talk with the player. This is this is the
easiest way. You like, you're like a recipe of the cake.
If you don't the cake, don't get mad at the cake.
Poor cake. You cook that cake like you make that
cake a few days ago, a few months ago. You
just needs to go back and gene a recipe to
have more sugar and more chocolate, less chocolate, like whatever
(14:20):
you want. But that's it's simple. It's not easy simple.
So if you know how the brain works and how
your body responds to it, that's why if you focus
on the person first, then you can do pelaton, swimming, soccer,
leading a family. You know how many mothers don't have
this and they are I'm like, you know, I'm no
(14:42):
one like because I'm not. Yes, you're doing more than
we're all doing because you know I can go to
better and you sleep bed hours and nobody would bother me.
And whenever someone wakes me up, then I get upset.
They have no break, mother, father's whatever. It doesn't it
doesn't have who you are. So again, yes, I work
for athletes because so this is what I wish I had,
And there's a lot of areas that they're not helped,
(15:06):
but they're asked for a lot, but they're not help
So I tried to be in that side of the
solution where Okay, I think this is the tools that
we can have and help the next generation. However, it's
not you don't have, it's not your you, it's not
the problem that you as a person that you have.
You can change whatever you want to change to be
(15:26):
whoever you want to be. Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That is so powerful, honestly, like, wow, I was saying
you no.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Did you see my face?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I was like, yeah, no, truly, I think our listeners
are going to absolutely love this and thank you for
sharing that because when you mentioned even say, for instance,
as an athlete, you know you're constantly reviewing your video,
your coach is constantly telling you how to improve even yourself,
(15:55):
like you're a mental performance coach. And if you're an athlete,
you have someone like you, right, and so when you
when I when I think about it now, not as
an athlete, and in the day to day and our
listeners and relating to how they go in through their
day and day. I went through this time period where
I was like, Okay, how do I how do I
be a better person? Right instead of that athlete? How
(16:17):
do I be better at my job? How do I
do this? How do we improve? And as you said,
and I love that you said this because you are
what you because of what you did from weeks months ago.
You know, you are the product of that. And I
in my role as a broadcaster now, one of my
biggest challenges was reviewing, literally reviewing film of myself from
(16:40):
you know, the months before, the weeks before. But it
taught me a few things.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Girl, I cringe in every time I watch back my
classes too, because I have to get better.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You cringe so much, and like, but it's a part
of the process.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
It is a part of the process. It is a
part of the process. And look, not everybody has that
job like myself, like you me where you could see
film of yourself, because no one if you're working at
a dask nine to five, you don't have a camera
in here like analyzing you, right, but you do have
you know, at your work meeting.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
There's a lot of zoom meetings too now that are recorded.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That is sure, sure, But I think an important part
was exactly that, like reflecting and seeing myself, but most
importantly in those cringing moments, seeing the improvement, like the
product of what I've become because of those reps, because
of those trial and errors, a lot of errors, because
(17:34):
of the reviewing with the coach that I had for
a bit, And that goes into being vulnerable and taking
those vulnerable moments that I had and those cringing moments,
and it made me confident. It literally gave me so
much confidence in the present moment to be like, holy shit,
(17:55):
look where I am today. One thing I want to
ask you is I can call you a wu right,
is when you mentioned the cake and you're, you know,
(18:15):
dealing with the recipe and the ingredients and you mentioned,
you know, maybe adding less sugar more whatever it is,
making soda, et cetera, et cetera. How do you decide
based on I guess your knees and your wants, But
how do you decide do I need more sugar in
my life or do I need this?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
What? Like how it.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Always how do you decide and like building that to
make your own perfect cake.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's a great question, and of course it's an individual.
But I'm writing while you guys are talking and Seman
writing because you're saying so many like important things, because
again what we're talking about is simple. It's not easy.
And people are like, why it is so hard to
get up every morning like early, and because when I
supposed to? And we think we are and going back
(19:06):
to that recipe first, and this is also a principles
we said we work on principles and the mental side
and one of the principles where sadly we don't think
this way. We are not an unfinished product in a
lot of ways, but we have like one for example.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
T okay, t please okay, everyone write that down.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Continue because if we do that again, going back to
the I'm trying to talking in sports, so it's it's
maybe it's some people they don't even have to play
a sport, but maybe they're a fund of football or
soccer or whatever, and it's easier because if we're always
talking about it from a lack of something, then it's
so hard to actually be real and accept what kind
(19:56):
of ingredients you need, because again, were always going to
have we need ingredients or changing something otherwise we will
not be in this plane like in this planet. Right now,
there's something else that there's a reason why we're here
to find to figure it out. Maybe you don't know it,
but it's a reason. And by trying to figure it out,
then that's one of the reason why you're here. You're
helping also the people to do the same. Now, going
(20:17):
back to the athletes, for example, if it's easier to
say it, we are always like going back to the
videos trying to find the area improvement. So for as
an athlete is of course, if you make a mistake,
like first I make a mistake. I always make mistakes.
But if you're doing something right or good, it is that, yeah,
what's that my job? So you never it's never enough
(20:38):
and going back to this never enough you think you're
a finished product. You are a finished product. There is
nothing wrong with you. You haven't done anything wrong. Now what
we do here is we expand yourself. So it's not
like I'm fixing myself because I'm a problem. Go back,
You're not a problem. You're great. You're here for a reason.
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You're finished product. Now what you do is to put
a makeup more or less, or the sugar whatever you
however you want to call it, to be useful for you.
Otherwise we're always trying to find a problem or a
past piece of that puzzle that is already finished. Otherwise
you're like, oh, when I'm doing That's why when I graduate,
I'm gonna be happy when i'm marder, I gonna be
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happy when I win, I'm gonna be happy. You're never
gonna be happy when you when you get to there,
because you're looking for something else. So be there. You're
a finished product. Now let's get to where it's fun.
It's way more fun when you know the products finished
and you have way more intrinsic motivation and understanding. Yes,
(21:41):
I want to do this because I would like to
be better at because I will serve people better, I
will be a better version of myself. No, because you
have a problem. You have a hole in that puzzle
that buses. No, nice bus is great, You're amazing. There
is a reason why here, Otherwise you'll be in another plane,
like another planet, in another are you here? Like this
(22:03):
is amazing. You guys are helping people. I don't know
if if one person is listening to this message that
give them more hope. We help one person, guys, and
that's amazing. I think.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, I was writing this not like I'm not gonna
have this podcast to listen to later, Like I was like,
this is my one shot. I think one of the
most beautiful things about human beings is that we are
like forever expansive, like I and I get a lot
of questions about like confidence and like loving yourself and
like that kind of stuff, because I share a lot
very openly about like my body image. If you you're
(22:37):
from Anatina, you know how much women in Anatina especially
like the pressure. It's like one of the countries with
the highest percentage of eating distortage in the world. We
are so hard on ourselves as latinas as women, especially
if you're like I came from a dance team background,
and you do not need any of that to have
gone through like doubts about yourself or like image issues
(23:00):
or anything like that. But it's not until you realize
that you are. I'm going to talk about my personal experience.
It was not until I realized that I had the
right to have to enjoy myself and my body, and
that I wasn't an unfinished product and I didn't have
to constantly be working on changing myself physically more than
(23:22):
anything at that time that I wasn't able to like
fully enjoy myself and be like, what the fuck is
your problem?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Like everything's fine, Like you can you can work to
be better, or to be stronger, or to be all
those things without constantly thinking that there's something wrong with you.
And the same thing is goes mentally and also professionally
when you're trying to expand. And I love what you
talked about like adding layers and like, I don't know,
(23:50):
I don't remember how exactly you expressed it, but for me,
the visual that I got is like we can continue
to build upon ourselves and create kind of like this
expanse of energy without losing who we are at our
core and without pulling away from all the things that
we've already learned in our lives.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I love that, And I think we learned to be
transactional all the time. Okay, if I work out an hour, workout,
I'm saying training work on an hour and then I
can eat this because going back to guilty, yeah, there
killed coming. I'm six almost one eight five meters. I'm
really tall in Argentina. I I was weirdin some five
like and it was really hard for me to like
(24:32):
again work on the self image where okay, and we
are on different and people talk to you differently.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
It was a differently like like like I've I've always
been like super tall in the family, like the most
muscular girl, especially even on dancings. You stand next to everybody,
look at yourself in the mirror, like why am I taller?
Why am I hips wider? Like I'm such a like
a quote unquote like bigger body girl.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I love how like later on you probably ago, You're
probably like because I'm a fucking Olympian.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That's why you know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's a whole thing, that image. Yes, and again we
learn to be transactional and if I do this, you
give me that and it's not with other people to
ourselves like you have to pay, say in the Spanish
a lexi and the moat. You have to pay for
whatever you have to do even even breathing, you know.
And that's the thing. If we learn that that is
(25:21):
hurting us so much, we also can learn this that
it's going to help a lot. Imagine, I think I'm
not a mother, but I think of if if if
I can impact with a little girls in sports or whatever,
we can't help them understand that hey you're good, you're good.
Now we can we can get better. Yes, I want sinking, dancing, writing, nothing,
(25:43):
whatever you want. And it's not coming from outside. Hey,
you have to be and outcoming now. In my I'm
from a small, smaller town and it's like either you
have to be a doctor or an accountant or a
lawyer or an architecture or what else and marry before
you're thirty and you have kids before you study. Actually,
and I'm none of those. So I'm the weird one.
And every time I go back home, I still go
(26:04):
because I love it. And again it's like, Okay, this
is what I learned that I'm not I'm not worth
it because I'm not a mother. I'm four years old,
and that's I work like on my own sessions, when
with my personal coach is like gohege's because of this
that's a self work because I don't have it, So
why am I here if I don't have it? Then
I was so fortunate to finally, thanks to retirement and
(26:25):
find this purpose of Hey, but I can also help
people and you can't touch lives, and then it's different. Yes,
I am out of the average, but feeling like that
is nothing that you're doing wrong. And of course I'm
doing a lot of things wrong and I'm trying to
work on that. I'm some of them. I'm not even
aware of it yet. But again I have a big
(26:46):
sign I can't share with you guys later in my office.
You're enough. Like that, you're enough, and especially working with women,
sadly we thinks were less enough and others doesn't not
good or bad, but we are trying not to feel
enough and and that's the thing something that we need
to work on, because life is not transactional, is different
than that.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah. Now, while you mentioned working with men and women,
you said a quote in this article that it really
sparked my interest, and it's in Spanish emotional balisa anti
meaning in English, women are more emotional and they verbalize earlier,
(27:31):
while men need more time to process. Neither is better
or worse. It's just part of the like, uh and connection.
And you say timing is fundamental. Timing is fundamental. So
when you're working with men or women, and I'm trying
to like just relate this to you know, everyday life.
(27:52):
You know we are all in relationships or in our
work life balances. You know, we're dealing with different people.
So when you're dealing with different people, what does that
exactly mean?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like when you because women.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Verbalize things earlier than men, does that mean as a
woman myself, like, does that mean I need to have
more patience because it takes a man longer to actually
communicate what he's going through, Like, what exactly how do
you put that into words when you're dealing with different genders.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Another question, and I know where the quote is coming from,
is because of I don't want to take it out
of the context. You got the context of sports where
and ours would it? Soccer still in a way very
socially influenced. We see with the interest you know, with
the in different cultures, and there's a belief where if
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you talk to Augus you have a problem, So don't
go You're gonna look weak. So that the timing and
the text more time. It takes more time that they
realize that is not the truth with women, since we
are more used to talking. We talk to our friends,
you know, with something happens, we have to talk it out.
It's more about it since we're we're like wire like that,
(29:10):
and there is nothing socially that it's telling us it's
wrong or that is showing us we're weak. And so
it is more about how we grew up understanding what
is the meaning of talking to someone. And again there's
a mixture of talking to someone. It is because I'm
both sports. I can at the same time mental coach.
(29:31):
So one is the emotionals and the mind. They are connected.
Some people like to separate it. It doesn't matter what
you prefer to do it. It's important to talk about it.
And the first and the easiest and the fastest way
to understand how your mind works is through talking. So
that's why we talk. We said about talking, and then
there's a lot of belief in the society where guys
(29:53):
if you talk, then they you know all the things
we hear about like awful. Yeah, so that's why it
takes time of talking. Again, since we naturally are less judge.
We have to talk more. And that's how because I
can't do an X right in your head. I mean,
actually how you think? Okay, let me just scan it.
That's the biggest challenge that we have some mental coaches,
(30:15):
because if you have if you go to a doctor,
your elbow hurts, whatever, you do, have an image and
then you talk. Okay, this is the diagnos this is
the treatment. That's its by this one. You have to
figure it out and then you have to be connective.
Connection is really important at least that I work person
first and connecting connected to the humans. It's in front
of you, and it takes more time. It might take
(30:35):
more time, but it's a human being. It's a story
behind this person. There's so many people behind this person.
It can't just take them like yeah, go an image
then go home, which is not bad for the doctor.
That's the way you do. So I need to explain
that before. So it's not like okay, guys to this
and girls of that. Otherwise we're part of the problem. Now.
It is. Yes, it's so we call it and concient
(30:56):
de collective, which means in our consciousness we assume, okay,
if guy talks, is so annoying. But now as as
women they said they want to date someone, they said, yeah,
I want someone that has had a lot of some
work and I don't want to do it. So either
you think he's bad by talking to someone else, but
you want him to be with you. Is an easy example, Uh,
to day someone that is actually worked with someone. But
(31:17):
if you're talking to much and you're judging, then then
you can't do both, you know. So it's a lot
there's a lot of judgment before even starting to work
and the and the mental side with that person. I
don't know if I answered, I know when someone else
bring me back, Melissa, But I needed to tell you
that because it's it's it's important. I'm not talking about
athletes here, it's more about everyone.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, no, I you you hit on the spot. And
also the fact that it's a taboo and you know
there are we have male listeners here likewise women, and
you know, it's even encouraging whether it's our female partners
or male partners whomever, that it's okay to work with
a mental coach, it's okay to get therapy. It's actually
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originable to get therapy at any stage of life.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Really, and it's all unfair. Also, imagine growing up with Hey,
if I talk, they have a problem, and males go
through so much pressure in so many aspects, and just
by telling them, hey, I love to work with males,
male athletes, especially like like CEOs or leaders, because it's like, hey,
I see you, I'm normal, I understand, Like, we don't
(32:25):
have to compare. I don't have to be a male
to understand you. I see you. I believe in you.
I believe what you're working through and you needs not
that you're weak. You are forced automatically to do so
many things. Again, we can go talk about women. I'm
not having making a sexist comment. I'm saying, hey, you,
(32:45):
this is helpful, just so you have a tool to
develop whatever you want to. And then it's it's just
as fair as what woman. That is easier for us
to talk.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I want to ask you a little bit of a
question for myself self essentially, and also for our listeners,
because I think if you're if we're listening to this podcast,
you know we're all trying to get better, and I
want to ask you, like, how is it that we
can begin to take the first steps to unleash our
(33:24):
biggest potential in life.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, yes, And again it is going back to the
little details, the small things you're every day, whatever you're
doing today, Again, I think where you want to be.
I won't tell you six months because that seems a lot,
especially when you're struggling on like six months, don't I
don't want to do anything, but think of it as
twelve weeks, which is three months, eight weeks, and then
(33:50):
we call it that. The we do that as a telescope, right,
we see the future, and an introverse engineer, we see
the microscope every day that everything that you do every
day will impact you to whatever you want. And again
I know because I've been there more than once where
I don't have the energy to focus on my daily
(34:10):
habits because I'm going through our emotionally rough time. Whatever
happens to you, whatever happens to you that it feels
like that, it's important, doesn't matter if it's not something
super tragic, if structured for you tragic, it's valid. Now
help yourself doing a little steps. If you're in that
pace in your life where go outside, Like I'm talking
(34:31):
again about simple but not easy, go outside in the
sunlight for twenty minutes. You don't want to do it, it's
gonna feel awful. Do it anyway. We only need you
to show up. And then the life also helps and
rewards you in a little while. And then it start
like booking. If it is it is and while you
(34:51):
walk in you don't see it. And again I think
the three of us and everyone here has experienced that.
And when you experience when it's going through you going
through that is awful, but know that it's showing up.
And the consistency is so important. And little things walking.
If you can't be in the sun, see a friend
if you can. If not, if you're far away, call
(35:12):
her or him. Try to do one thing that you like.
Best for me is have much every day or whatever
you want to have like. It doesn't have to be big,
because again we think we're only important if you're doing
this big thing. If you achieve this that, if you
do that, you're the ones. You know what? How how
many like like the tournament is once a year and
(35:33):
the Copa is at the end of the year for
footballs every four years, So nothing is every day if
you think about it, it's more of what you do
every day and in the moment between one copa and
the next. Right, So it's more about the daily habits
and trying to for me that if you ask me
the only answer what it would be find your own
recipe and you don't have to copy it. Like your
(35:56):
cake will be chocolates my two, but it will taste differently.
So finding any I think it will be improved until
the end of time. As long as you know is
your cake is an ice cream? What is it? Maybe
it's not. Maybe you're allergy allergic to that and I'm
making you eat cake. You know, maybe it's a fruit
that I hate chocolate cakes.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I love chocolate cake.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
This is what many should we ask you? We ask
everyone on the show. Yes, but wait wait I still
got like two more questions.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, I have time. Okay, oh good, because we have
we have.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
My first question is, well, it's August and I'm not
really into like I mean, I kind of now a
more but like astrology and all that. But I am
big into manifestation. And just the other day it was
a big day and I missed.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I missed it. Can I say something? Can I say
the day? Can I say the day? Can I so
what youre talking? Sorry? If people don't believe that. That's fine,
But what you were talking is August eleventh, and I
see in my computer at eleven eleven. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, and I don't say. You don't say
you believe in those things, and ago go back to
(37:15):
the coming. You're missed it. We can still do it,
I know. Okay, So you can. You can, okay.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
And it's so great because last time I got home
and we have this balcony on the water and the
moon it was a full moon, and that it was
and literally, I know, joke you guys. I sat on
the balcony and I put my hands up and I
manifested the ship out of like everything.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Okay, yes, I love it.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I had never done it so intensely before, and I
went big, I went, hey, I'm on that moon. And
so while we're talking about the recipe and the telescope,
and you know, you're you're your your kind of goal setting,
because you're creating your routine based off what you are
set yourself up for what you want to improve or
(38:02):
what you want to maybe even achieve or manifest.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
So what I would love to.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Hear from you is exactly that practice practices in manifestation
and or goal setting.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Amazing. I love this. I can't give take it for
an hour say we will try not to ask those things.
But it is again what we were talking. I was like, hey,
I do have friends at home too, that there are
mothers and they that's what they want to be and
and I want to even that'sn't again, I said mothers,
because there's a lot of weight social like socially thoughts
(38:37):
about staying home and not doing anything and and for
whatever it means for you, that doesn't matter. Like my
grandma was the best she's to sow cocer. It was
the best one in the world. She's raising like I
owe her almost my whole life, so and she wanted
to be the best one of those. So it doesn't
matter what you want. It's just understanding that this is
(38:59):
what you really want. And because I said the male
about manifestation and the like setting goals, again, it doesn't
have to be something huge, and if it's huge, it's
good as well. It has to be really important for
you and manifesting it is hard sometimes because it goes
along what I deserve and I don't want to have.
(39:21):
Having told I deserve, So will you go through a
lot of That's why I love the question about manifestation
because the first thing is, okay, I need to first
give myself permission to dream, and how many of us
have not had that permission for so long or having
told what to do? And if not, then if you're
(39:42):
fort you to have kids, they don't because you don't count.
You know, you're not helping society. So going back to that,
then manifesting will be more about being connecting to yourself
and to who you are. And I know sometimes we
don't know who we are, and that's okay because you
go through faces. But as long as you try to
to be all the time your most self and genuine
(40:05):
and then manifesting and debrave and me like, okay, this
is what you want. And sometimes you think you wanted that,
and then you realized you didn't want that and it
was your family's wishes for you or something like and
that's okay too, you raised you do it again. So
I don't know if I answer the question, but it's
it's all about who you are, who you want to become,
(40:25):
who who you are taught to be, and especially you
deserve whatever you're thinking about because there is a reason
why you're thinking about it. It's a scene that someone
in the universe planted.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I manifest a lot through journaling, like I write it down,
I think. So when I'm journaling too, like I'll circle
and I'll be like this is something important, and then
I'll be like, wait, but why am I thinking that?
Is that aligned with what it is that I'm trying
to do, And then I'm like no, So then I'm like,
I like bring it down and I write down like
why am I thinking this? And then it brings me
through the kind of like the same thought process that
(40:57):
you were talking about. So even if you're not just
like meditation, they get manifesting while you're meditating. There are
different ways to manifest things, and there are also so
many different ways to journal to.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
A lot of the alignment. And I think going back
to how do you manifest to alignment is the most
important thing, And I almost forgot to thank you coming
the universe knows what you're know in alignment. So if
you are thinking, saying, and doing the same thing, you
eventually maybe find more things or whatever. But if you
are not, it's like sending like wrong signals. So what
(41:28):
do you want? Do you want this one? You want?
Then I don't give you anything because I don't understand
what you want. Yeah. Right, And it gives you so
much peace. So going back to the connection, being in
alignment gives you the piece and the connection that you
need to manifest. So it's like the chicken or DG Right. Yeah,
and I think being peaceful is so important.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, I love that. Okay, I want to ask you
one of the questions that we ask all of our guests,
but it's going to be a little bit of a
different format for you.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
So, Okay, when you think.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
About all of the lives that you have impacted and
all of the different stories that you have heard, and
the people that you have worked with, what do you
think is like a through line or a main factor
that contribute to high performing people's success.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
That's a great question. I have to find one thing. Ah,
it's just you enough, like your finished product. Otherwise you
focus on the wrong things. I think. I don't know
if I'm answering the question, but it is. I think
(42:43):
a lot of us are working hard on the wrong
things and in the process we kill ourselves. And since
we are really committed people that we really want to
do it, and we don't mind to make the effort
and invest the energy, and we're doing everything right, but
in the wrong thing and the wrong goal. They're wrong
whatever it is we're doing. So imagine investing all the
(43:04):
energy you have invested you think yourself coming or whoever
is this is listening to or mal Imagine the things
that you said, oh I wish I knew before, and
the effort that you make every day to do whatever
you want to do. And sometimes again you have one
to one hundred and you give one hundred percent effort
(43:25):
in something that the battery your battery to raise forty percent, right,
and you give yourself forty percent. You're giving one hundred
percent every day, so it's not like you have a
problem because you miss sixty. Even in the approach that
we do things, we always, if you think about it,
we're always missing something. There's always a part that we're
doing wrong. There's always something that judge that is talking
(43:48):
to yourself, that that's the person and that the thing
is stopping you from that high performance environment, high performance resolve.
But whoever, I think everyone is high performance. The majority
of us that I actually have genuine purpose in life
and really want to leave this world better. Have that
in mind. But we were raised and being told all
(44:11):
the time that you are a problem. So if you
start scratching from SEYI and like, hey, you know, guess what,
welcome to this new world or manifest a world where
you're that's it. You're making mistakes. Let's try to see
the intention behind that. Can sometimes we make mistakes because
you don't know it. We are not aware of that,
and sometimes sadly that our people are actually doing it's
(44:34):
just because they don't they don't know their purpose life
and I hope they are that okay, But going back
to the people that actually want to get better, which
is high performance, is you might even if you connect
to yourself everyone, just if someone told you, hey, you're here,
that's it. You're right, Like you're living your your life
like your life. You're doing whatever you're doing, that's good.
(44:57):
Now let's make it better. What do you want? What's
spicing or whatever you want to put in the cave?
Whatever you want? How do you make it more flower?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Like?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Has more flower? Mano? Yeah, but you have it it.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I think that ties back to confidence too, right, because
knowing that you're enough gives you so much confidence and
the ability to make mistakes without judging yourself for that,
Like you know, if you're if you're if you feel
like you're not enough, you make a mistake, you're like,
I'm a failure. If you know that you're already a
finished product, you can go out there, you can try things,
you can have fun with your life understanding that you're
(45:32):
you're still who you are and you're always going to
be that person and you're always going to have that
connection to yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
That's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I love amazing, amazing conversation.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, you know, I do hypno therapies. That's all I
go into that conscience so to too many people, and sadly,
I'm not talking about winning the World Cup. I'm not
talking about your performance. I'm not talking about Hey, I
want to be the best mom, the best dad, the
best and that it can be. It's it's about out
what happened to me? What did I do that? My
(46:03):
confidence is almost none and it's all like some conscious
part and you have to go through there in order
to get that believe out and keep working on it.
It's I wish everyone at least we all touch one
life today, and that person will tell that person something
else and things like that, so we have that domino
effect where hey, you know what I heard, we're enough.
(46:23):
Let's see if that's true or not. At least give
it a chance.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
You know, well you you certainly touched lives. Today was
because our listeners definitely got a lot out of this episode.
And hopefully one day we can have you back, because
we could talk about this for hours.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
And hour literally, no, we want to have you back.
So whenever you're ready, we'll have around two.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
It's almost Latin as we could talk for hours.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yes, oh yes, well, yes I was. I want to
ask you one last question where we going to do
a quick what is your like hype track before you
go work out? Like the one song that you always
like listen to on your workouts right now.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Is Cumbia? Is music from home?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I love?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I am a big fan, but it's not any Cumbia.
It's from Santa Fe from where I'm from.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Is the best any particular song?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
She's like, no, just love you know the thing is
this is I'm sure you know this is Bodo is Uh.
It's like the guys that do like I don't know
if you know, it's like it's Argentine that. Yeah, like
instagrammers that they do a lot of famous Cumbia's there
it's from Santa Fe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't
(47:41):
know names. I don't know names. I don't want to
all of them. Just Putina and that's it.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Just here for the back.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Where where where can our listeners follow you or even
learn more about your and your practices?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, I uh do a lot of Instagram mainly I'm
not good on social media, so I just stick with one.
Instagram is coach a d G and that's where I
try to share when I have time, what we do
there or some messages on anything about believing in yourself.
Awesome love that.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Make sure you guys follow her and let us know
what you thought of this episode because it was absolutely iconic.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I want to thank you guys because you don't know.
I'm sure this is it's so great for you because
again it's natural and normal and you guys being so great,
but it's it's really it's really important for to normalize. Hey,
mental health is important. You have to pay attention to
it however you like it. You don't have to have
a go tofferent one too. You just find yourself sometime.
(48:37):
We need you, This world needs you. Love.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
On that note, guys, thanks for tuning in. That was
this week's episode of Allah. And remember, baby, you are
a finished product. We'll catch you next week. I See
Those MAII is an iHeart women's sports production and partnership
with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
For more podcasts, to listen to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you listen to your favorite shows
Welcome to the show, everybody. I'm Gamida Ramon and this
is a I am so excited about our episode today.
But first off, I want to say I met up
with some listeners over the weekend, which y'all tell me
that you are on your way to work sometimes when
you listen to this podcast, So I just want to
say that you are gonna have a beautiful and amazing day,
right elly, Absolutely, we have a beautiful show planned for
(00:25):
y'all today. We often talk about mental fortitude. It's one
of my favorite topics. I pick my friends' brains all
the time about it. But today we have a professional
here who works with professional athletes and has tips not
only for them, but also for you and I to
take to our daily lives, a mental performance coach. I
(00:45):
cannot wait to pick her brain about this.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's just let's go all right, y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I am so excited to speak to our special guest today.
She is a World Cup champion, an Olympian, a swimmer
turned mental performance coach aka the first mental coach, by
the way, in the history of the MLS and NWSL
in the USA.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Queen Queen.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Bad ass Etonian. I have to say this because right now,
I am the minority in this sense because we have
two Argentinians on this ship for once.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We always have so many Columbianos come on.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And that's why I did wear If you're watching the
show on video, I did wear this jersey.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What Juniors coming?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You might be offended. I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I was like excited to be on this and I'm like,
oh my gosh, what what fan are you in Argentina
And it wasn't Boca Juniors.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I was like, Okay, Alostina, thank you so much. I'm
so happy to be here. It's a thanks for thinking
about Argentines and welcome us and that way, Melissa and Camila,
Hello Arilo Argentinos.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So on every show, we start with a little girl talk,
cafecito matte and catch up. So I want to know
as a mental performance coach, before we get into the
nitty gritty, I want to know what your morning looks like.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Since I was a swimmer. Right now, we get up
super early, and I have that habit since I'm twelve.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So how early how early did you used to get
up for thirty four?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, I used to get up for twenty. Now I
do for forty to five o'clock, depending on what we
do in the morning and the club. But yes, well,
you know, I'm so fortunate to be working with so
many athletes around the world, so I need to be
flexible on the time. And you know, I'm in California,
and so I'm in nine hours behind Europe for example,
(02:55):
of four hours behind Argentina or some Latin American countries.
So in order to be my best self, I need
to take care of my first first, and myself first. Sorry,
So I need to either swim or work out or
do something in the morning. I meditate as soon as
I get up. Of course we make the best, but
that's a given. And then I do a workout depending
(03:18):
of the day, and then I actually well, of course
the journal part is very important. We were talking about
habits before sutting recording. So I think in order for
me to be the best for because I work for
the best in the world, I need to be my
best self every day. And if I support and I
believe in generally for example or meditating, then I think
(03:40):
I need to do it before and first.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Am I crunch, Cami crunch, that's something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
She said? That's a given.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Make the bed.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I was like, okay, normally I do, but today I
woke up in shambles, and that's okay. Somedays show your room,
show your room. In the process of like trying to
move someplace. So my life is a disaster. But I'm
trying my best and I'm not judging myself for it,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That is perfect coming. It's it's a part of it. No,
not doing it sometimes a part of then doing part,
so you appreciate it when you do it. And sometimes
you also find okay, I need to change. Sometimes we
said a habit, you know, in seven days, I don't
do it for four days. Maybe it's not the habit
the problem, the problem which is not a problem, it
is okay. Maybe the timing orders something to be a justice.
(04:28):
Like I love the part that you say you're not
judging yourself, which is so important.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I this is so funny that you mentioned the making
your bed, because I'm a big believer of making your
bed every morning. That's my that's like my own like, okay,
today is going to be a day.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
My husband, however, on the other hand, he doesn't believe
in that. He could just get out of bed and
do his day with the whole comforter or just and
I'm like, that freaks me out, and so I tell him,
I'm like, we got to make the bed of the morning.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
One thing I do want to ask you because you
mentioned meditating and journaling and Kami is a big believer
in journaling. Now, when you do meditate in the morning,
what is that like for you? How do you meditate,
where do you meditate, and what do you do when
you meditate?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Right? I meditate close to my bed. I always have
even if like now I'm meeting places or whatever I am,
I always have either my candle or my little Buddha
or something that represents for me. This is it, this
is the space. And well, breathing for me is really
important and it is a part of meditating to breathe
properly or do different exercises since it's a part of
(05:34):
how we stimulate, like the estimilate of the brain. Right,
what the lack of oxygen or how often you breathe
and how you also have so many benefits of your
heart and you know, so I think a part of
meditation is breathing and then depending the day, but usually
it's like fifteen minutes, sometimes anymore, a little twenty minutes,
(05:54):
maybe two. But at least my time in is the
eighteen men done again. As soon as you get up,
it doesn't have to be in any place special will
already leave and you have your energy. It's a really
special enough for you. I think it has to be
also the easiest way possible, so you actually do it. Otherwise,
the most important thing is the consistency. And it doesn't
(06:16):
matter if it's five minutes, two minutes, it's just a
moment that Okay, this is for meditating, This is for Britain,
this is for because to make up the bet is
just the habit. It's not about having your bed pretty.
Of course, it's nice to have you pretty, but that's
not the point, right, So it's just the whole habits
that really habits.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Okay, I want to get into the nitty gritty, like
I want to get into your mind, because you are
in the minds of like so many incredible people.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Day to day.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You're talking to them, you're coaching them through some of
the toughest mental moments of their lives to show up
on some of the biggest stages in the world right
and perform. Can you take us into a little bit
of your coaching philosophy and your approach.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes, of course. I think the way I work is
I put the person first, regardless of your sport. I
am again so blessed enough to be working with the
best in the world, but also the person in the world.
That these people we say best in the world because
if we talk about sports, but everyone should again deserve
(07:20):
and needs to take it off their minds the same
way we're talking about, hey you need to walk twenty
minute today. Oh hey you need to be out tired.
You also need to be aware of the mental side.
The thing is we don't know that and our generations
and they don't. They never talked talked about that. We
talked about a little bit about health, the physical health,
but now this one. So the first part is to
(07:42):
put the person first. It's always and the most important
understanding that if you take care of that, you can
actually start focusing on your performance. But understanding how it works,
because again high performance it's all about pushing yourself and
be there, be the best. And this is how we
will how we learn it, but nobody actually taught us.
What is the meaning of that and what is the
(08:03):
price we're paying for it when you're retired. Again, nobody
wants to talk about retirement when we are performing because
what I don't want to do that, Like I don't
want to even think that that exists. But it will
come to a day that you have that divorce, like
we said with Melissa, or you're gonna more that like
it's a lost it lost the right that person that
(08:23):
you used to be, it's not there anymore. What are
you gonna do about that? But meanwhile, if they sometimes
I'm like, I wish I knew this, if they have
told us or me or mel what's going on. When
you do it, it's not like you stop doing it, but
you take care take care of yourself much better. You
still push yourself. Like I'm again, I'm a like an athletic,
like a swimmer. We are one of the hardest believers
(08:45):
in sorry, the best believers. That we're working hard is
really important and it's useful and you have to hear
by yourself. Right in swimming, you're by yourself, but there
are ways to do it to take care of your first,
like again, of yourself, first, of your person, of your mind,
of what are you feeling and then trying to translate
(09:06):
it into performance, so the more and it works because
again I work with the rest in the world in
the air sports and they take it theirselves and they
can do both. Now it's a FIRSTUS education is understanding. Hey,
the fact that I don't want to be training. This
is sound small, but it goes on the way. The
fact that I don't want to be training, that's I mean,
(09:27):
I'm a loser. I'm never gonna make it. I have
a problem. Now, you're not born for high performance, like
our brains are not wired for having to train six, seven,
whatever hours and then perform every single weekend for twenty years.
So it's not about you because remember, while we do
what we do, we are developing our self worth and
(09:48):
our identity and who we are and how much we
can't take. And for athletes is never it doesn't matter college, whatever,
it's never enough goes what do you do? For example, Well, hey,
how do I get better? Watch video? This is the
mistake that I made. Nobody's saying yeah, it can say
good job, mal, but you need to do this better
(10:10):
for years and day by day you're okay, Then I
have a you turn yourself to look for the bad
You turn yourself to look for the error or the mistake,
and if you don't explain that to the player and
the athlete and the emotional part that is like, I
make a mistake all the time. I'm tired of saying it.
That's why we don't want to go back and get
with and we don't want to go back and play
(10:32):
because you don't want to be judge anymore. And the
worst judgment or judge, sorry, is yourself. So it's training
that judge.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And I think that's also applicable to so many different
areas of life, like whether or not you're public speaking,
or somebody who is in a leadership position, somebody who's
looking to step out of their comfort zone and is
like getting a little bit more terrified and like scared
of what's to come. I was when when I first
(11:01):
joined Peloton, which is like very it's a very exposed profession.
I work on camera every day and there's thousands of
people on the other side of that take my classes.
I was terrified and I was having such a tough
time dealing with being so hard on myself during the
(11:22):
training process. I was like, this is not gonna happen
for me. They're not going to hire me. All these
different thought processes that were happening in my head that
also happened to so many different people when they're making
big life decisions. And I called up one of my
friends who is in a big leadership position and one
of the biggest organizations in the United States, and she
was like, high performing people have high performance self care routines.
(11:47):
After that, I made it my mission to make sure
that I was doing everything possible to take care of
my mind and myself so that I could show up
and at least like there's like a level of peace
of mind, or your baseline just increases so that whenever
you fall, you fall a little less low and you
have like a little bit of a higher like net
that's catching you. Or that's what it felt like for me.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And it's sorry, Melal Yes, yeah go on, no, no,
go go You're the yes go on no no big
bang is I forget? Sometimes we are recording, it's just
like a child with friends, you know, and any any day,
and it is again. I also it's not only athletes.
I also work with leaders, with CEOs, with coaches, with
even I I since I work with little kids. I
also talk to parents, you know, because we need to
(12:32):
do the follow up and how it is not about
the metal or okay, if you're not doing high performance sports,
it's it's it's human beings for everyone. And again, whatever
the results you want to, like you being exposed in
the billatone or whatever it is, that's a result. That's
why it's so important of what you do with yourself
(12:56):
because we are trained to be like, okay, let's say
an example, because from school, let's do that so we
I don't know, some people just study one, two, three,
whatever that is they need to and then go learn that,
take this exam, and then keep going with their life.
So it's a connection between the product and the person.
The ideal part or the thing that I tried to
(13:17):
work every day. Going back to the philosophy, is that's
what you're focusing on is the result. Now we are
the result of everything we have done in the last
six months, the most three months. So if you don't
like what you have today today is not you today today,
it is the product of you six months ago. So
(13:37):
you are like a few months away from whatever you
want to do. It's gonna be hard. I don't know,
you will be uncomfortable because you're changing partterns now that
we study the brain that the brain doesn't like change
because it's not safe. We don't know it's gonna get
you endangered. But if you understand, that's why it's so
important to put that first. Whatever you're doing now, it
(13:58):
is the result you have done. So it's like we
always talk with the player. This is this is the
easiest way. You like, you're like a recipe of the cake.
If you don't the cake, don't get mad at the cake.
Poor cake. You cook that cake like you make that
cake a few days ago, a few months ago. You
just needs to go back and gene a recipe to
have more sugar and more chocolate, less chocolate, like whatever
(14:20):
you want. But that's it's simple. It's not easy simple.
So if you know how the brain works and how
your body responds to it, that's why if you focus
on the person first, then you can do pelaton, swimming, soccer,
leading a family. You know how many mothers don't have
this and they are I'm like, you know, I'm no
(14:42):
one like because I'm not. Yes, you're doing more than
we're all doing because you know I can go to
better and you sleep bed hours and nobody would bother me.
And whenever someone wakes me up, then I get upset.
They have no break, mother, father's whatever. It doesn't it
doesn't have who you are. So again, yes, I work
for athletes because so this is what I wish I had,
And there's a lot of areas that they're not helped,
(15:06):
but they're asked for a lot, but they're not help
So I tried to be in that side of the
solution where Okay, I think this is the tools that
we can have and help the next generation. However, it's
not you don't have, it's not your you, it's not
the problem that you as a person that you have.
You can change whatever you want to change to be
(15:26):
whoever you want to be. Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That is so powerful, honestly, like, wow, I was saying
you no.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Did you see my face?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I was like, yeah, no, truly, I think our listeners
are going to absolutely love this and thank you for
sharing that because when you mentioned even say, for instance,
as an athlete, you know you're constantly reviewing your video,
your coach is constantly telling you how to improve even yourself,
(15:55):
like you're a mental performance coach. And if you're an athlete,
you have someone like you, right, and so when you
when I when I think about it now, not as
an athlete, and in the day to day and our
listeners and relating to how they go in through their
day and day. I went through this time period where
I was like, Okay, how do I how do I
be a better person? Right instead of that athlete? How
(16:17):
do I be better at my job? How do I
do this? How do we improve? And as you said,
and I love that you said this because you are
what you because of what you did from weeks months ago.
You know, you are the product of that. And I
in my role as a broadcaster now, one of my
biggest challenges was reviewing, literally reviewing film of myself from
(16:40):
you know, the months before, the weeks before. But it
taught me a few things.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Girl, I cringe in every time I watch back my
classes too, because I have to get better.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You cringe so much, and like, but it's a part
of the process.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
It is a part of the process. It is a
part of the process. And look, not everybody has that
job like myself, like you me where you could see
film of yourself, because no one if you're working at
a dask nine to five, you don't have a camera
in here like analyzing you, right, but you do have
you know, at your work meeting.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
There's a lot of zoom meetings too now that are recorded.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That is sure, sure, But I think an important part
was exactly that, like reflecting and seeing myself, but most
importantly in those cringing moments, seeing the improvement, like the
product of what I've become because of those reps, because
of those trial and errors, a lot of errors, because
(17:34):
of the reviewing with the coach that I had for
a bit, And that goes into being vulnerable and taking
those vulnerable moments that I had and those cringing moments,
and it made me confident. It literally gave me so
much confidence in the present moment to be like, holy shit,
(17:55):
look where I am today. One thing I want to
ask you is I can call you a wu right,
is when you mentioned the cake and you're, you know,
(18:15):
dealing with the recipe and the ingredients and you mentioned,
you know, maybe adding less sugar more whatever it is,
making soda, et cetera, et cetera. How do you decide
based on I guess your knees and your wants, But
how do you decide do I need more sugar in
my life or do I need this?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
What? Like how it.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Always how do you decide and like building that to
make your own perfect cake.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's a great question, and of course it's an individual.
But I'm writing while you guys are talking and Seman
writing because you're saying so many like important things, because
again what we're talking about is simple. It's not easy.
And people are like, why it is so hard to
get up every morning like early, and because when I
supposed to? And we think we are and going back
(19:06):
to that recipe first, and this is also a principles
we said we work on principles and the mental side
and one of the principles where sadly we don't think
this way. We are not an unfinished product in a
lot of ways, but we have like one for example.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
T okay, t please okay, everyone write that down.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Continue because if we do that again, going back to
the I'm trying to talking in sports, so it's it's
maybe it's some people they don't even have to play
a sport, but maybe they're a fund of football or
soccer or whatever, and it's easier because if we're always
talking about it from a lack of something, then it's
so hard to actually be real and accept what kind
(19:56):
of ingredients you need, because again, were always going to
have we need ingredients or changing something otherwise we will
not be in this plane like in this planet. Right now,
there's something else that there's a reason why we're here
to find to figure it out. Maybe you don't know it,
but it's a reason. And by trying to figure it out,
then that's one of the reason why you're here. You're
helping also the people to do the same. Now, going
(20:17):
back to the athletes, for example, if it's easier to
say it, we are always like going back to the
videos trying to find the area improvement. So for as
an athlete is of course, if you make a mistake,
like first I make a mistake. I always make mistakes.
But if you're doing something right or good, it is that, yeah,
what's that my job? So you never it's never enough
(20:38):
and going back to this never enough you think you're
a finished product. You are a finished product. There is
nothing wrong with you. You haven't done anything wrong. Now what
we do here is we expand yourself. So it's not
like I'm fixing myself because I'm a problem. Go back,
You're not a problem. You're great. You're here for a reason.
(20:59):
You're finished product. Now what you do is to put
a makeup more or less, or the sugar whatever you
however you want to call it, to be useful for you.
Otherwise we're always trying to find a problem or a
past piece of that puzzle that is already finished. Otherwise
you're like, oh, when I'm doing That's why when I graduate,
I'm gonna be happy when i'm marder, I gonna be
(21:21):
happy when I win, I'm gonna be happy. You're never
gonna be happy when you when you get to there,
because you're looking for something else. So be there. You're
a finished product. Now let's get to where it's fun.
It's way more fun when you know the products finished
and you have way more intrinsic motivation and understanding. Yes,
(21:41):
I want to do this because I would like to
be better at because I will serve people better, I
will be a better version of myself. No, because you
have a problem. You have a hole in that puzzle
that buses. No, nice bus is great, You're amazing. There
is a reason why here, Otherwise you'll be in another plane,
like another planet, in another are you here? Like this
(22:03):
is amazing. You guys are helping people. I don't know
if if one person is listening to this message that
give them more hope. We help one person, guys, and
that's amazing. I think.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, I was writing this not like I'm not gonna
have this podcast to listen to later, Like I was like,
this is my one shot. I think one of the
most beautiful things about human beings is that we are
like forever expansive, like I and I get a lot
of questions about like confidence and like loving yourself and
like that kind of stuff, because I share a lot
very openly about like my body image. If you you're
(22:37):
from Anatina, you know how much women in Anatina especially
like the pressure. It's like one of the countries with
the highest percentage of eating distortage in the world. We
are so hard on ourselves as latinas as women, especially
if you're like I came from a dance team background,
and you do not need any of that to have
gone through like doubts about yourself or like image issues
(23:00):
or anything like that. But it's not until you realize
that you are. I'm going to talk about my personal experience.
It was not until I realized that I had the
right to have to enjoy myself and my body, and
that I wasn't an unfinished product and I didn't have
to constantly be working on changing myself physically more than
(23:22):
anything at that time that I wasn't able to like
fully enjoy myself and be like, what the fuck is
your problem?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Like everything's fine, Like you can you can work to
be better, or to be stronger, or to be all
those things without constantly thinking that there's something wrong with you.
And the same thing is goes mentally and also professionally
when you're trying to expand. And I love what you
talked about like adding layers and like, I don't know,
(23:50):
I don't remember how exactly you expressed it, but for me,
the visual that I got is like we can continue
to build upon ourselves and create kind of like this
expanse of energy without losing who we are at our
core and without pulling away from all the things that
we've already learned in our lives.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I love that, And I think we learned to be
transactional all the time. Okay, if I work out an hour, workout,
I'm saying training work on an hour and then I
can eat this because going back to guilty, yeah, there
killed coming. I'm six almost one eight five meters. I'm
really tall in Argentina. I I was weirdin some five
like and it was really hard for me to like
(24:32):
again work on the self image where okay, and we
are on different and people talk to you differently.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
It was a differently like like like I've I've always
been like super tall in the family, like the most
muscular girl, especially even on dancings. You stand next to everybody,
look at yourself in the mirror, like why am I taller?
Why am I hips wider? Like I'm such a like
a quote unquote like bigger body girl.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I love how like later on you probably ago, You're
probably like because I'm a fucking Olympian.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That's why you know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's a whole thing, that image. Yes, and again we
learn to be transactional and if I do this, you
give me that and it's not with other people to
ourselves like you have to pay, say in the Spanish
a lexi and the moat. You have to pay for
whatever you have to do even even breathing, you know.
And that's the thing. If we learn that that is
(25:21):
hurting us so much, we also can learn this that
it's going to help a lot. Imagine, I think I'm
not a mother, but I think of if if if
I can impact with a little girls in sports or whatever,
we can't help them understand that hey you're good, you're good.
Now we can we can get better. Yes, I want sinking, dancing, writing, nothing,
(25:43):
whatever you want. And it's not coming from outside. Hey,
you have to be and outcoming now. In my I'm
from a small, smaller town and it's like either you
have to be a doctor or an accountant or a
lawyer or an architecture or what else and marry before
you're thirty and you have kids before you study. Actually,
and I'm none of those. So I'm the weird one.
And every time I go back home, I still go
(26:04):
because I love it. And again it's like, Okay, this
is what I learned that I'm not I'm not worth
it because I'm not a mother. I'm four years old,
and that's I work like on my own sessions, when
with my personal coach is like gohege's because of this
that's a self work because I don't have it, So
why am I here if I don't have it? Then
I was so fortunate to finally, thanks to retirement and
(26:25):
find this purpose of Hey, but I can also help
people and you can't touch lives, and then it's different. Yes,
I am out of the average, but feeling like that
is nothing that you're doing wrong. And of course I'm
doing a lot of things wrong and I'm trying to
work on that. I'm some of them. I'm not even
aware of it yet. But again I have a big
(26:46):
sign I can't share with you guys later in my office.
You're enough. Like that, you're enough, and especially working with women,
sadly we thinks were less enough and others doesn't not
good or bad, but we are trying not to feel
enough and and that's the thing something that we need
to work on, because life is not transactional, is different
than that.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah. Now, while you mentioned working with men and women,
you said a quote in this article that it really
sparked my interest, and it's in Spanish emotional balisa anti
meaning in English, women are more emotional and they verbalize earlier,
(27:31):
while men need more time to process. Neither is better
or worse. It's just part of the like, uh and connection.
And you say timing is fundamental. Timing is fundamental. So
when you're working with men or women, and I'm trying
to like just relate this to you know, everyday life.
(27:52):
You know we are all in relationships or in our
work life balances. You know, we're dealing with different people.
So when you're dealing with different people, what does that
exactly mean?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like when you because women.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Verbalize things earlier than men, does that mean as a
woman myself, like, does that mean I need to have
more patience because it takes a man longer to actually
communicate what he's going through, Like, what exactly how do
you put that into words when you're dealing with different genders.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Another question, and I know where the quote is coming from,
is because of I don't want to take it out
of the context. You got the context of sports where
and ours would it? Soccer still in a way very
socially influenced. We see with the interest you know, with
the in different cultures, and there's a belief where if
(28:49):
you talk to Augus you have a problem, So don't
go You're gonna look weak. So that the timing and
the text more time. It takes more time that they
realize that is not the truth with women, since we
are more used to talking. We talk to our friends,
you know, with something happens, we have to talk it out.
It's more about it since we're we're like wire like that,
(29:10):
and there is nothing socially that it's telling us it's
wrong or that is showing us we're weak. And so
it is more about how we grew up understanding what
is the meaning of talking to someone. And again there's
a mixture of talking to someone. It is because I'm
both sports. I can at the same time mental coach.
(29:31):
So one is the emotionals and the mind. They are connected.
Some people like to separate it. It doesn't matter what
you prefer to do it. It's important to talk about it.
And the first and the easiest and the fastest way
to understand how your mind works is through talking. So
that's why we talk. We said about talking, and then
there's a lot of belief in the society where guys
(29:53):
if you talk, then they you know all the things
we hear about like awful. Yeah, so that's why it
takes time of talking. Again, since we naturally are less judge.
We have to talk more. And that's how because I
can't do an X right in your head. I mean,
actually how you think? Okay, let me just scan it.
That's the biggest challenge that we have some mental coaches,
(30:15):
because if you have if you go to a doctor,
your elbow hurts, whatever, you do, have an image and
then you talk. Okay, this is the diagnos this is
the treatment. That's its by this one. You have to
figure it out and then you have to be connective.
Connection is really important at least that I work person
first and connecting connected to the humans. It's in front
of you, and it takes more time. It might take
(30:35):
more time, but it's a human being. It's a story
behind this person. There's so many people behind this person.
It can't just take them like yeah, go an image
then go home, which is not bad for the doctor.
That's the way you do. So I need to explain
that before. So it's not like okay, guys to this
and girls of that. Otherwise we're part of the problem. Now.
It is. Yes, it's so we call it and concient
(30:56):
de collective, which means in our consciousness we assume, okay,
if guy talks, is so annoying. But now as as
women they said they want to date someone, they said, yeah,
I want someone that has had a lot of some
work and I don't want to do it. So either
you think he's bad by talking to someone else, but
you want him to be with you. Is an easy example, Uh,
to day someone that is actually worked with someone. But
(31:17):
if you're talking to much and you're judging, then then
you can't do both, you know. So it's a lot
there's a lot of judgment before even starting to work
and the and the mental side with that person. I
don't know if I answered, I know when someone else
bring me back, Melissa, But I needed to tell you
that because it's it's it's important. I'm not talking about
athletes here, it's more about everyone.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, no, I you you hit on the spot. And
also the fact that it's a taboo and you know
there are we have male listeners here likewise women, and
you know, it's even encouraging whether it's our female partners
or male partners whomever, that it's okay to work with
a mental coach, it's okay to get therapy. It's actually
(32:00):
originable to get therapy at any stage of life.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Really, and it's all unfair. Also, imagine growing up with Hey,
if I talk, they have a problem, and males go
through so much pressure in so many aspects, and just
by telling them, hey, I love to work with males,
male athletes, especially like like CEOs or leaders, because it's like, hey,
I see you, I'm normal, I understand, Like, we don't
(32:25):
have to compare. I don't have to be a male
to understand you. I see you. I believe in you.
I believe what you're working through and you needs not
that you're weak. You are forced automatically to do so
many things. Again, we can go talk about women. I'm
not having making a sexist comment. I'm saying, hey, you,
(32:45):
this is helpful, just so you have a tool to
develop whatever you want to. And then it's it's just
as fair as what woman. That is easier for us
to talk.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I want to ask you a little bit of a
question for myself self essentially, and also for our listeners,
because I think if you're if we're listening to this podcast,
you know we're all trying to get better, and I
want to ask you, like, how is it that we
can begin to take the first steps to unleash our
(33:24):
biggest potential in life.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, yes, And again it is going back to the
little details, the small things you're every day, whatever you're
doing today, Again, I think where you want to be.
I won't tell you six months because that seems a lot,
especially when you're struggling on like six months, don't I
don't want to do anything, but think of it as
twelve weeks, which is three months, eight weeks, and then
(33:50):
we call it that. The we do that as a telescope, right,
we see the future, and an introverse engineer, we see
the microscope every day that everything that you do every
day will impact you to whatever you want. And again
I know because I've been there more than once where
I don't have the energy to focus on my daily
(34:10):
habits because I'm going through our emotionally rough time. Whatever
happens to you, whatever happens to you that it feels
like that, it's important, doesn't matter if it's not something
super tragic, if structured for you tragic, it's valid. Now
help yourself doing a little steps. If you're in that
pace in your life where go outside, Like I'm talking
(34:31):
again about simple but not easy, go outside in the
sunlight for twenty minutes. You don't want to do it, it's
gonna feel awful. Do it anyway. We only need you
to show up. And then the life also helps and
rewards you in a little while. And then it start
like booking. If it is it is and while you
(34:51):
walk in you don't see it. And again I think
the three of us and everyone here has experienced that.
And when you experience when it's going through you going
through that is awful, but know that it's showing up.
And the consistency is so important. And little things walking.
If you can't be in the sun, see a friend
if you can. If not, if you're far away, call
(35:12):
her or him. Try to do one thing that you like.
Best for me is have much every day or whatever
you want to have like. It doesn't have to be big,
because again we think we're only important if you're doing
this big thing. If you achieve this that, if you
do that, you're the ones. You know what? How how
many like like the tournament is once a year and
(35:33):
the Copa is at the end of the year for
footballs every four years, So nothing is every day if
you think about it, it's more of what you do
every day and in the moment between one copa and
the next. Right, So it's more about the daily habits
and trying to for me that if you ask me
the only answer what it would be find your own
recipe and you don't have to copy it. Like your
(35:56):
cake will be chocolates my two, but it will taste differently.
So finding any I think it will be improved until
the end of time. As long as you know is
your cake is an ice cream? What is it? Maybe
it's not. Maybe you're allergy allergic to that and I'm
making you eat cake. You know, maybe it's a fruit
that I hate chocolate cakes.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I love chocolate cake.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
This is what many should we ask you? We ask
everyone on the show. Yes, but wait wait I still
got like two more questions.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, I have time. Okay, oh good, because we have
we have.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
My first question is, well, it's August and I'm not
really into like I mean, I kind of now a
more but like astrology and all that. But I am
big into manifestation. And just the other day it was
a big day and I missed.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I missed it. Can I say something? Can I say
the day? Can I say the day? Can I so
what youre talking? Sorry? If people don't believe that. That's fine,
But what you were talking is August eleventh, and I
see in my computer at eleven eleven. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, and I don't say. You don't say
you believe in those things, and ago go back to
(37:15):
the coming. You're missed it. We can still do it,
I know. Okay, So you can. You can, okay.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
And it's so great because last time I got home
and we have this balcony on the water and the
moon it was a full moon, and that it was
and literally, I know, joke you guys. I sat on
the balcony and I put my hands up and I
manifested the ship out of like everything.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Okay, yes, I love it.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I had never done it so intensely before, and I
went big, I went, hey, I'm on that moon. And
so while we're talking about the recipe and the telescope,
and you know, you're you're your your kind of goal setting,
because you're creating your routine based off what you are
set yourself up for what you want to improve or
(38:02):
what you want to maybe even achieve or manifest.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
So what I would love to.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Hear from you is exactly that practice practices in manifestation
and or goal setting.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Amazing. I love this. I can't give take it for
an hour say we will try not to ask those things.
But it is again what we were talking. I was like, hey,
I do have friends at home too, that there are
mothers and they that's what they want to be and
and I want to even that'sn't again, I said mothers,
because there's a lot of weight social like socially thoughts
(38:37):
about staying home and not doing anything and and for
whatever it means for you, that doesn't matter. Like my
grandma was the best she's to sow cocer. It was
the best one in the world. She's raising like I
owe her almost my whole life, so and she wanted
to be the best one of those. So it doesn't
matter what you want. It's just understanding that this is
(38:59):
what you really want. And because I said the male
about manifestation and the like setting goals, again, it doesn't
have to be something huge, and if it's huge, it's
good as well. It has to be really important for
you and manifesting it is hard sometimes because it goes
along what I deserve and I don't want to have.
(39:21):
Having told I deserve, So will you go through a
lot of That's why I love the question about manifestation
because the first thing is, okay, I need to first
give myself permission to dream, and how many of us
have not had that permission for so long or having
told what to do? And if not, then if you're
(39:42):
fort you to have kids, they don't because you don't count.
You know, you're not helping society. So going back to that,
then manifesting will be more about being connecting to yourself
and to who you are. And I know sometimes we
don't know who we are, and that's okay because you
go through faces. But as long as you try to
to be all the time your most self and genuine
(40:05):
and then manifesting and debrave and me like, okay, this
is what you want. And sometimes you think you wanted that,
and then you realized you didn't want that and it
was your family's wishes for you or something like and
that's okay too, you raised you do it again. So
I don't know if I answer the question, but it's
it's all about who you are, who you want to become,
(40:25):
who who you are taught to be, and especially you
deserve whatever you're thinking about because there is a reason
why you're thinking about it. It's a scene that someone
in the universe planted.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I manifest a lot through journaling, like I write it down,
I think. So when I'm journaling too, like I'll circle
and I'll be like this is something important, and then
I'll be like, wait, but why am I thinking that?
Is that aligned with what it is that I'm trying
to do, And then I'm like no, So then I'm like,
I like bring it down and I write down like
why am I thinking this? And then it brings me
through the kind of like the same thought process that
(40:57):
you were talking about. So even if you're not just
like meditation, they get manifesting while you're meditating. There are
different ways to manifest things, and there are also so
many different ways to journal to.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
A lot of the alignment. And I think going back
to how do you manifest to alignment is the most
important thing, And I almost forgot to thank you coming
the universe knows what you're know in alignment. So if
you are thinking, saying, and doing the same thing, you
eventually maybe find more things or whatever. But if you
are not, it's like sending like wrong signals. So what
(41:28):
do you want? Do you want this one? You want?
Then I don't give you anything because I don't understand
what you want. Yeah. Right, And it gives you so
much peace. So going back to the connection, being in
alignment gives you the piece and the connection that you
need to manifest. So it's like the chicken or DG Right. Yeah,
and I think being peaceful is so important.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, I love that. Okay, I want to ask you
one of the questions that we ask all of our guests,
but it's going to be a little bit of a
different format for you.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
So, Okay, when you think.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
About all of the lives that you have impacted and
all of the different stories that you have heard, and
the people that you have worked with, what do you
think is like a through line or a main factor
that contribute to high performing people's success.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
That's a great question. I have to find one thing. Ah,
it's just you enough, like your finished product. Otherwise you
focus on the wrong things. I think. I don't know
if I'm answering the question, but it is. I think
(42:43):
a lot of us are working hard on the wrong
things and in the process we kill ourselves. And since
we are really committed people that we really want to
do it, and we don't mind to make the effort
and invest the energy, and we're doing everything right, but
in the wrong thing and the wrong goal. They're wrong
whatever it is we're doing. So imagine investing all the
(43:04):
energy you have invested you think yourself coming or whoever
is this is listening to or mal Imagine the things
that you said, oh I wish I knew before, and
the effort that you make every day to do whatever
you want to do. And sometimes again you have one
to one hundred and you give one hundred percent effort
(43:25):
in something that the battery your battery to raise forty percent, right,
and you give yourself forty percent. You're giving one hundred
percent every day, so it's not like you have a
problem because you miss sixty. Even in the approach that
we do things, we always, if you think about it,
we're always missing something. There's always a part that we're
doing wrong. There's always something that judge that is talking
(43:48):
to yourself, that that's the person and that the thing
is stopping you from that high performance environment, high performance resolve.
But whoever, I think everyone is high performance. The majority
of us that I actually have genuine purpose in life
and really want to leave this world better. Have that
in mind. But we were raised and being told all
(44:11):
the time that you are a problem. So if you
start scratching from SEYI and like, hey, you know, guess what,
welcome to this new world or manifest a world where
you're that's it. You're making mistakes. Let's try to see
the intention behind that. Can sometimes we make mistakes because
you don't know it. We are not aware of that,
and sometimes sadly that our people are actually doing it's
(44:34):
just because they don't they don't know their purpose life
and I hope they are that okay, But going back
to the people that actually want to get better, which
is high performance, is you might even if you connect
to yourself everyone, just if someone told you, hey, you're here,
that's it. You're right, Like you're living your your life
like your life. You're doing whatever you're doing, that's good.
(44:57):
Now let's make it better. What do you want? What's
spicing or whatever you want to put in the cave?
Whatever you want? How do you make it more flower?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Like?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Has more flower? Mano? Yeah, but you have it it.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I think that ties back to confidence too, right, because
knowing that you're enough gives you so much confidence and
the ability to make mistakes without judging yourself for that,
Like you know, if you're if you're if you feel
like you're not enough, you make a mistake, you're like,
I'm a failure. If you know that you're already a
finished product, you can go out there, you can try things,
you can have fun with your life understanding that you're
(45:32):
you're still who you are and you're always going to
be that person and you're always going to have that
connection to yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
That's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I love amazing, amazing conversation.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, you know, I do hypno therapies. That's all I
go into that conscience so to too many people, and sadly,
I'm not talking about winning the World Cup. I'm not
talking about your performance. I'm not talking about Hey, I
want to be the best mom, the best dad, the
best and that it can be. It's it's about out
what happened to me? What did I do that? My
(46:03):
confidence is almost none and it's all like some conscious
part and you have to go through there in order
to get that believe out and keep working on it.
It's I wish everyone at least we all touch one
life today, and that person will tell that person something
else and things like that, so we have that domino
effect where hey, you know what I heard, we're enough.
(46:23):
Let's see if that's true or not. At least give
it a chance.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
You know, well you you certainly touched lives. Today was
because our listeners definitely got a lot out of this episode.
And hopefully one day we can have you back, because
we could talk about this for hours.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
And hour literally, no, we want to have you back.
So whenever you're ready, we'll have around two.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
It's almost Latin as we could talk for hours.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yes, oh yes, well, yes I was. I want to
ask you one last question where we going to do
a quick what is your like hype track before you
go work out? Like the one song that you always
like listen to on your workouts right now.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Is Cumbia? Is music from home?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I love?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I am a big fan, but it's not any Cumbia.
It's from Santa Fe from where I'm from.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Is the best any particular song?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
She's like, no, just love you know the thing is
this is I'm sure you know this is Bodo is Uh.
It's like the guys that do like I don't know
if you know, it's like it's Argentine that. Yeah, like
instagrammers that they do a lot of famous Cumbia's there
it's from Santa Fe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't
(47:41):
know names. I don't know names. I don't want to
all of them. Just Putina and that's it.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Just here for the back.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Where where where can our listeners follow you or even
learn more about your and your practices?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, I uh do a lot of Instagram mainly I'm
not good on social media, so I just stick with one.
Instagram is coach a d G and that's where I
try to share when I have time, what we do
there or some messages on anything about believing in yourself.
Awesome love that.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Make sure you guys follow her and let us know
what you thought of this episode because it was absolutely iconic.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I want to thank you guys because you don't know.
I'm sure this is it's so great for you because
again it's natural and normal and you guys being so great,
but it's it's really it's really important for to normalize. Hey,
mental health is important. You have to pay attention to
it however you like it. You don't have to have
a go tofferent one too. You just find yourself sometime.
(48:37):
We need you, This world needs you. Love.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
On that note, guys, thanks for tuning in. That was
this week's episode of Allah. And remember, baby, you are
a finished product. We'll catch you next week. I See
Those MAII is an iHeart women's sports production and partnership
with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
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