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April 7, 2025 26 mins

On todays last episode of He Said, He Said before Ros returns, Eric answers some more the the questions you sent in. He gives his thoughts to someone who is looking to connect with his wife more physically when the kids are smothering them, whether it is true or false that Sharon Osbourne got him a dog, he goes through some of the comments about his episode with Mory, and even covers the pros and cons of daytime television vs primetime. A little something for everyone, and thank you for all your questions, keep them coming. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is, he said, a ya viho with Eric Winter
and Rosalind Fantaz. All right, welcome to another episode of
he said, he said, and this should be the last,
he said. He said. By the way, my wife Roslyin.
We'll be back in town here once we start taping
our new episodes next month. But this one is actually

(00:21):
gonna air when I'm finally reunited with my wife and
the families all together. We're gonna be traveling to Budapest here.
She's having a great time on her movie. It's been
going awesome and we're excited. We're excited to get out
there now. The funny thing is, I'm not I'm traveling solo,
two kids international. It's gonna be an adventure, you know.
Roslin was freaking out. Good, I think you need to

(00:41):
take Delmi with you. I think you need to take
del Me. I was like, look, I don't think we're
gonna need Delmia. I'm fine. The kids are old enough
now they can help. I got it under control. I'm
not nervous. She's more nervous than I am. But it
is gonna be something wild. It's a long trip, long flight,
but I'm looking forward to it. You know, the the
kids have experienced this type of a flight once before

(01:03):
when Rose was doing the Latin Grammys and they did
great this one. Yeah, I think it's so fun that
they get to have this kind of an experience, you know,
with me traveling and that's in an experience of itself,
but then getting to go overseas again being in Europe
at this age. I never got to do any of
this when I was their age, we weren't in that
kind of a position to take those kinds of trips.

(01:24):
I did travel, you know, locally and things like that
to visit family, but never got to do this type
of stuff. And I'm really looking forward to what this
new adventure is going to bring. Sabella has been in
DC all this past week, funny enough, and so she's
coming back and then we take off again. So this
is going to be this is going to be exciting,
something new. I'm not stressed, Rosalind, you need to relax.

(01:45):
It's going to be okay. I'm excited for Budapest. I've
never been in Paris. I had been to before when
in my twenties I lived over in Europe for probably
maybe it was six months. So I feel like I'm
a pretty savvy traveler. I've done it, in my opinion,
like sort of with the locals, And back then it
was no there were no even like phones weren't even
a thing. I was dealing with, just maps. I had

(02:06):
no way of calling an uber or do any of that.
Was take a take a bus, take the subway, or
just walk everywhere. And I have a lot of my
old maps from traveling of navigating everywhere i'd go, making
little marks on tourist sites i'd go see. But I
was also there, you know, modeling at times I was working,
and it helped me get acclimated to the scene of

(02:27):
the different locations. So we were going to be in
Paris after Budapest, and I think that's going to be
a very cool experience for the kids, especially because Sebbi's
taken French this year in school. I think it's gonna
be it's gonna be cool for her to sort of
be in the culture and be in the environment of
everything she's been studying recently. So a couple of weeks
we'll be gone and this will be airing, which I'm

(02:49):
excited about. So this episode, we're gonna do more audience
questions let me go and start with the first one here. Hi, guys,
I don't know if you'll ever this, well, we were
reading it, so you got that. Love you bull so much.
I'm currently studying in med school in Wales and would
like to become a paramedic. My question is to Eric,
I would love to know how was your experience in

(03:12):
med school? Did you enjoy it and what inspired you?
What skill from school do you use the most. So
I never actually went to med school, let me tell
you that I'm glad that you are in med school
as we speak. I was pre med at the time
at UCLA, a psycho biology major, and I wanted to
go into sports medicine, mainly because I played sports my

(03:32):
whole life. I thought it was something I could really
get into be passionate about, and it was I wanted
to help athletes and that was personal to me in
that regard, so I'd say that's what inspired me. My
experience in school was great up until the point of
when I got into this business, and it wasn't that
that school became less fun. It's just I didn't have
time anymore. I started traveling so much. I was doing

(03:53):
jobs and I couldn't explain to my teachers like, hey,
I'm going to miss this lab practical I'm not going
to be able to take these exams because I'm shooting,
you know, a campaign in Italy. And they were not
thrilled about that. So my grades started to quickly decline
because I wasn't present for anything. And then I dropped
out of college and went back to college, partly just

(04:15):
to have that completion for myself, but also my parents,
who you know, helped me so much financially and was
support getting me that far at UCLA, and I finally
got my degree in psychology. So as far as skills
that I used the most, I would probably just say
general psychology to be honest, which is a broad term.

(04:36):
You know, studying psychology is very broad unless you actually
go into the field and get a doctorate. But I
would say just my way of navigating people and communication
and stuff like that are probably the skills I took
away the most from college. You know. I know, to
this day, I definitely don't remember anything in my calculus
based physics or any of my math. None of that

(04:57):
was something I took away with that set on you
know what I mean, Like that where it's really going
to help me in the future. So that was my
college life. It was very you know, unique in that fact,
and not normal by any means for somebody who has
a college life. I didn't walk when I graduated. I

(05:18):
just got a diploma sent the mail. So that's my
college experience as my story. But keep up the good work.
I'm stoked. I actually funny enough, when I stopped acting,
at a period of time, I talked about this. I
wanted to be a firefighter paramedic. So you and I
are kind of on a similar journey. Just don't become
an actor and you'll live out what I wanted to do. Okay,
next question. Sorry, I'm still battling a cold. Everybody, Eric

(05:40):
and Roz love the podcast. I listen every week here
in Australia. Would love for you to have Makeiah on
as a guest. I love Maka and hear all about
her dance journey before acting. Is that something you would consider.
Definitely would love to have Makiah back on. We had
her once with Alyssa, but I would love to talk
to Micheah personally more about her experiences dancing with Michael Jackson,
her experiences. You know, she went to school for dance.

(06:03):
It's uh, you know, specializing in being a performing arts
and all that. And she has a very cool life journey.
You know, met her now husband in college and they've
been together that whole time. And we'll be a fun
person to have on and chat with. So I will
definitely look to do that. Also, you wrote looking forward
to Palm Republic being international. I can't wait until Palm

(06:24):
is an international spirit. Thank you regarding the bottle and
everything else, we appreciate it. We the Palm support has
been incredible from everyone, you know, stateside and also overseas,
and at some point we will be able. We're expanding
here in the States as we speak, and at some

(06:44):
point we will make the international jump. And to remind
people that are going to be in Paris for the
for the con that I'm going to in May, I
will be being bringing Palm merch shirts, hats, I'll have
some bracelets. You have to bring cash. According to the convention,
that's the only way that we could we could do
the sales. So I'm sure it'll be in Euros, but
just kind of gauge what we're doing on the website

(07:06):
price wise, and we'll have it marked there what you
can buy and for how much. But looking forward to
getting that merch international so people can even be more
aware of Palmer Republic. With everybody's support, all right, next
question slash comment here Antonella from Milan, Italy. I love Milan,

(07:26):
by the way, I lived in Milan for a period
of time when I was modeling. I've been there a
few times. You don't really have a question. You just
wanted to tell that you and tell us that you
enjoyed the podcast. You came to know it not too
long ago after a new episode. After each new episode,
while waiting for the next one, you get you you're
loving the show. You try to catch the old episodes
and catch up, which we appreciate you guys listening back.

(07:48):
That's always important. I think you know listen, every episode
stands alone, but there is a lot to our life
journey that's portrayed in previous episodes. You have a daughter
about the same age as ours, living in the same moments,
moments and emotions as a parent, which I feel you.
I get it. I know we were living the same
life for sure. You're terrorized thinking about her dating someone

(08:12):
you know, a boyfriend, and you would like to thank
us for opening up our life as parents and family.
We appreciate you, thank you for sharing all that. I'll
tell you a little funny story and this is again
goes back to dating. My daughter, Like I said, is
in DC right now on a school trip, and then
texts me to let me know that she got hit
on by a boy from another school randomly. You know,

(08:35):
all these schools are there at the same time, going
to the same sites, doing this trip, which I did
as a teenager as well and junior high. And some
boy's friend came up to her and said, Hey, my
my friend thinks you're hot or cute. I forgot the
term they used. Are you into him? And I was like,
oh my god. This was day one in DC. Different school.

(08:57):
Didn't get a number, They didn't exchange that I know of.
I hope they did not. I hope she never ran
into them again. But that would be a nightmare some
other kid exchanging numbers, which we couldn't do when I
was that age. You just you could exchange an address
and mail a letter to each other, or a house
phone number. But I'll find out if she actually got

(09:18):
this kid's number and they ran into each other again.
But that's just kind of stuff that we're navigating right now,
which is so wild but so normal at the same time.
So lots of love to you Antonella in Italy and
I wish you the very best. Thank you again for
your support, and I will tell you with this podcast,
the international community has been huge. We have listeners from

(09:38):
all over the world. And I know it starts often
from the rookie and that's what brings listeners in. But
the fact that you all have stayed with us this long,
You've continued to tune in episode after episode or like
an Antonella's case, even gone back in episodes, it means
so much to Roz and I. We do this podcast
out of love and we enjoy sharing our life's journey
and talking with guests, but also sharing what we go

(10:00):
through on a regular basis as humans, you know, as
parents navigating life and as a couple. So thank you everybody.
Kathy on Instagram. What challenges in your career have shaped
you into the actor you have become. That's a great
question and I will say, look, we face challenges daily
as actors in this business. It's getting harder and harder

(10:23):
to get work and it's not just getting work, it's
steady work, making a living at doing what we do.
And I think the biggest challenges hah, not being so
sensitive or taking everything so personal, because we are in
a business that is so subjective, right, I am having
to be told by somebody else if I'm good enough
or if I'm worthy in a sense of a job.

(10:45):
And often what I've learned being on the production side
of it is it's not about if I'm good enough,
it's not about if I'm worthy. I'm just not right.
It's almost if you can imagine you're looking for a
new piece of art, doesn't have to be expensive, just
a piece of art for your house. And you go
into a store and there are a bunch of art

(11:07):
hanging on the wall. Right, there's a bunch of art,
and you pick one out of fifty pieces of art
because that's what resonates with you the most, and that's
what fits your home. And that's what having a TV
show or a movie is. That's the home of the
writer or the director, and they need to find each
piece of art that is going to make their home complete.

(11:28):
And once I've started to accept that that it's not
a personal you know notion. Every single time someone says
you're not the guy that is strictly, they're trying to
find the right piece of art for their home and
I just wasn't the one for that day. But somebody
will buy me at some point, somebody will choose me
to represent their movie or their TV show, And I

(11:49):
think that's been the challenge, is balancing that mentally. And
even as a producer, we deal with this. You spend
so much time in development making no money. It's all
sweat equity, and even if you sell something, only the
writer gets paid to write. As a producer, you're still
just putting in sweat equity and you're waiting for a
network to buy you and pick you up to a

(12:10):
series because youre what fits their home. Uh. It's the
hardest part about being in this business. So we've talked
a lot about this. I don't want to beat this up,
but that's just something that's been difficult to navigate. Okay,
Trey on Instagram. We have kids that are eight and five,
and my wife and I are not finding the time
to have sex. I get it from a male perspective.

(12:32):
Do you think it is better to try to put
time aside or do spontaneous daytime quickies feel more romantic
and fun? Being discreet around the kids is a challenge
for us. Any advice, I this is a tough and
very real question and very honest answer. Spontane eighty to
me is always way better, whether it's during the day,

(12:55):
whether it's just spontaneous at night. To me, that is
so much more fun and special and intimate versus feeling
like it's put in the calendar and it's something we're
just checking off the list now to that, you know,
other side of the story to the defense, Sometimes it's
what you gotta do. Sometimes you got to plan a

(13:17):
date night. And if you can make the plan for
a date night, whether it's dinner at home after the
kids go to bed, or it's going out to dinner,
that should be a night that would lead to something more,
some more intimacy and in a way you're planning without planning.
Like to me, to put sex in the calendar and
be like, we need to have sex every Wednesday. Take
some of the fun out of it. Still necessary if

(13:39):
that's the only option, but I would like to plan
in a roundabout way, you know, something not so on
the nose which is, let's plan a date night where
we're gonna go talk, have dinner, celebrated, you know, our
love for each other, spend time with each other, which
should ultimately lead to intimacy. But yes, you do have
to make the time eight and five those ages, it's tough.

(14:00):
You're all in. I mean, actually I have a thirteen
year old. You're still all in. You're busy all the time,
and the older they get, the later they go to bed,
so everything has to start later and you're tired. Make
the time super important to me. It is essential and
keeping a healthy marriage. So I wish you guys the best.
Do whatever suit you both. If scheduling it doesn't bother

(14:21):
either of you, schedule it. If spontaneity is what matters
to both of you, be spontaneous. If you guys are
split on this, shake it up sometimes schedule sometimes be spontaneous.
But it takes both of you to put in that work. McKee,

(14:43):
I hope I say that correctly from Instagram. What is
the biggest culture shock you have enter you have ever?
I think encountered while filming or traveling. Biggest shock? That's
a tough question. I go into most places filming I
wouldn't say I have been anywhere where it's been a

(15:04):
culture shock that I can think of traveling. I've been
to a bunch of places. I mean all over the world.
I go into every place very open minded, excited. I
like to sort of I hate to be a quote
unquote even though I'm going to be a tourist, I
don't want to stand out as a tourist. I don't

(15:25):
want to stand out as a typical American sort of
not trying to understand the culture, not trying to be
in with everybody present. So I try to, you know,
I try to get in with the local culture. So
when I say culture shock, I mean this lightly. It's

(15:46):
different than what I'm used to. But I don't go,
oh my god, I can't make this work. I feel
so out of place. This is uncomfortable, the food, this that,
the other. Yeah, So I wouldn't say there's a specific
Southeast Asia was very different from me in a lot
of ways. Loved it though, being in Thailand. Philippines. Absolutely

(16:09):
loved it because I know a lot of friends here
in the States, so it was fun. I had had
a lot of food similar in the States, too, so
that was fun to explore and be there personally. Yeah,
I don't know a and oh, you know, I will
say this. I went into a USO tour and I
went to Afghanistan, Pakistan was Bekistan, I think it was,

(16:30):
and the United Arab Emirates. Now I didn't get to
go into many of the cities. I did go in
z Pakistan in the town there, I did do some
of that, and that was a bit of a you know,
culture shock. It was very different. But I loved seeing
how everybody lived and being you know, in the company
of everyone being present. So it was it was a
lot of fun. Laura on Instagram. In your episode with Maury,

(16:57):
you guys spoke about people giving advice they don't take themselves.
Which one of the sides do you fall on? And
any advice for me as a person who gives but
cannot take it all the time? All take it all
and drives my partner crazy. I often give advice to

(17:18):
my friends, family, and I don't always follow that advice
for sure, But I'm very aware of the fact that
I don't do that all the time, so I try
super hard to stop reflect remember my own advice, and
I try to follow it. That is true even just
a discussion Rozon and I had the other day, long distance,
going over something. I had to step back, try to

(17:42):
be present, understand her perspective and what I want in
return and what I also and hear her out, which
is something I would preach to somebody else. So, as
somebody yourself who often wants to give advice but doesn't
always want to take it, you have to pause. You
have to give time. You have to be quiet. When

(18:04):
people start to argue or get into a debate or
a situation, personally, you kick into fight or flight, and
immediately you often you want to retaliate or you want
to either want to run from the conversation or you
want to retaliate and you want to fight. You've got
to find a way to calm and quiet the brain
and be neutral, hear out your partner, and then you
have to be able to as respectfully as possible, share

(18:26):
your side and hope that they will reciprocate and hear
you out. So it takes a lot of practice, a
lot of work. But to Mary's point and to what
you're saying, yes, I kind of fall in the middle.
I'm not a person that just gives advice and never
takes my own advice. I do take my own advice
at times, but it takes a lot of work, and
I have to remember to be quiet and be patient

(18:48):
and listen. I hope that helps Laura. All right, Sally,
I hope I said that correctly. The validation addiction conversation
was really good. I want to have it with my children.
I actually all the same. I want more to talk
to my daughter. Funny enough, any suggestions on how to
start that conversation. How do you do it with your kids?
You know, I don't know that there's a great way

(19:10):
to start it. I think it's about sitting down and saying, hey,
I heard this podcast episode. I'd love you to listen
to it. I'd love to talk to you about something
that I learned because I think it could be beneficial
for you and your growth as a young person. I
want more to talk to my daughter, I really do,
when it comes to sports and when it comes to school,
and also just her appreciating herself. You know, you don't

(19:33):
have to get validation from everyone. It's one of the
reasons I keep my daughter off of social media. I'll
be honest. A lot of her friends have social media,
but I don't want her chasing comments or again. On
social media, everybody paints the best picture of themselves, right
They're They're constantly pushing for validation with what they post,

(19:55):
and I don't want her to think that's real life
because nobody shares their their downs, their negatives. Everybody shares
their ups and their positive So if your child is
on social media, you definitely want to have that conversation.
I feel like, don't chase validation on social media. It's
completely false and the worst place to do it. But
I would probably just start by maybe asking your child

(20:18):
if they would listen to the episode, or just you
can buy Morey's book see if there's a way to
explain it better. But I would just open up a dialogue,
take your kid out to dinner, have a conversation. That's
the best. I think you got to be open and
transparent for sure, Tanya. What is harder to shoot scripted

(20:39):
series like The Rookie or a daytime soap like Days
of Our Lives. They both have their own unique challenges.
I'll be honest. Daytime soap you get tons of dialogue,
you do an episode a day. Obviously you're not in
every scene in that episode, but it's a ton of dialogue.
You're working NonStop and you have to memorize a lot

(21:01):
and you have to hit your mark and you get
one take two max. You do a rehearsal and a take.
That's it. Like I said, you might get a second take.
They have three cameras running at once, so that would
be the challenge. The positive side of a daytime soap
is it's like a nine to five some days you
get done really early. You never really work that late.

(21:23):
You don't work that many hours on average. Not having
all those takes make those scenes go so much quicker.
You have a bit of a normal life scheduling wise.
Now on a show like The Rookie, the positive side
is you can do You have more time and more
opportunity to do better work because you get more takes,

(21:45):
they have more to edit and chop into to help
your performance. You're by doing multiple takes or wide to tighter,
a tighter. After that you get it's like having more
rehearsal time to perfect what you want to do when
the coverage is finally on you. The downside is your
hours can be a lot longer. It's fun doing more stunts,

(22:07):
right like on a soap, you're contained to a stage.
You get to do a lot more and explore a
lot more with locations and versatility and variety as an
actor when you're on a show like The Rookie. But yeah,
your hours are longer. We work, you know, soaps a
year round with typical vacation time. We get months off

(22:30):
on The Rookie. So those are the positives and negatives
of both. But I probably would prefer overall shows like
The Rookie. You know that type of a scripted show.
Number ten from your producer. These things are mentioned on
IMDb trivia page. Please say whether they are true or false.
You have a bulldog named Lily that you receive from

(22:53):
Sharon Osbourne on the Sharon Osbourne Show. True, Lily passed away.
She made it to be thirteen years old. I did
the Sharon Osborne Show twice. I did a pre interview
the first time. I was on Days of Our Lives
at the time, and they said, what do you talk
to you? You know, tell us about yourself. I said, I
just bought a new place and I want to get
a dog, and you know, it's so funny. I love

(23:15):
Sharon's bulldogs on her show. I'm a big fan of bulldogs.
I did a modeling show a modeling job, and this
bulldog was there and I started talking about bulldogs just
as conversation. And I did this episode with Sharon where
I'm in bed with her, funny enough, being interviewed, and
the producers came out with this little puppy bulldog and said,
this is yours. We want to give this to you.

(23:36):
It was the wildest thing. It was like I was
being given a child on the spot. Hadn't even moved
into my home yet. They had to keep the dog
as the mascot in the production office for a couple
of weeks until I could get my home and then
bring the dog to me. And Lily was amazing, and
Sharon and I stayed in touch for quite a bit
of time afterwards, and she was always lovely. You love

(23:59):
to play golf in your spare time. I used to
love to play golf. I was also a terrible golfer,
and I went to what I say is anger management
for golf because I would throw my clubs. I would,
I was pissed off all the time. So I loved
it and I hated it, but once I had kids,
believe it or not. I haven't really golfed that much
at all, maybe a couple times since Sabella was born,

(24:19):
so in thirteen years. It just takes up so much time.
It's four or five hours of my day, and I
just could never really shake free. So I don't. I
don't golf even a fraction like I used to. You
enjoy going to plays at the Pantagious Theater in Hollywood.
I do. I love going to theater, seeing plays, whether
it's at the Pantages if I'm in la if I'm

(24:41):
in New York, going to Broadway even better, love seeing
the original run of shows. And yeah, that's something I
didn't always love, by the way, I didn't really appreciate
that until I got older. But I love good theater
for sure. You are known for playing dead pan or
angry guys, but in life you are very nice. You

(25:01):
are a very nice guy with a great sense of humor.
I don't know if I'm known for always doing that.
I mean I do. I did play like the douchebag
a lot. I mean Harold and Kumar. I was a jerk.
I've played a jerk in multiple guest starring roles in
the show Vive Laflin I did. I was a lot
of the character was a lot of fun. I did

(25:21):
a comedy with Lisa Milano and never made it to air,
but that one I was very fun. But on the Rookie, definitely,
I think I've mastered that dead pan, serious, dry sense
of humor. But I don't know. I'm trying to think
of other roles that I've done a lot of other movies.
I did Ugly Truth. I was upbeat, positive. Yeah, so

(25:44):
I kind of feel like I split, But I've become
very known this for this role in The Rookie for sure.
Hands down. Well listen, this was fun answering everyone's questions
as always, I hope you all enjoyed it and I
and anything that you were wondering or pondering. I hope
I came through and got it clear. This in the
next episode, Roz, We'll be back. We will be here
for a proper he said aad O, thank you again

(26:07):
for listening. Remember if you have something you want to
talk to us about, send it to our dms at,
he said aaDH or email us at Ericanroz at iHeartRadio
dot com And until next time, peace out. Thanks for listening,
don't forget to write us a review and tell us
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at email, Eric and Ross at iHeartRadio dot com, he said.

(26:30):
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