July 11, 2025 • 27 mins
You have the followers, but where’s the money?
Building a brand isn’t about a few viral videos, just ask expert influencer Rudy Mawer!
The host of Amazon’s “60 Day Hustle” joins Ros and Eric to share his multi-million dollar business strategy.
From effective marketing to mastering the algorithms, THIS is how you can make your ‘plays’ finally pay off!
Plus, the reality of AI and how to make it work FOR YOU, not against you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is he said, ayah with Eric Winter and Rodlin fantag.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, Hello, welcome to the episode, he said, A d ho,
welcome back to us. We had a great vacation. My
wife is looking much more like herself, a little stressed out,
but that's also like herself.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Are you so stressed.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Because life, No, don't be stressed anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You know the things that are happening in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We're in the middle of a war and it's stress
and my chichon doesn't go away, and my elbow still
hear its.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Fat right.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
He's like, it's like if you read that like a
fright stuff shut up is like a bump.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
My bomb is still there. My doctor the second rain
drainage drainage, the stitches were really really high up, so
you don't really see them because they're like all the
wy up here.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thank God. But I touch it and get it looked
at again, and I hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Jump in. We have an awesome guest today, Rudy Moore,
who is somebody we've become very friendly with. We we're
guests on one of his on his show that's on Amazon.
We'll talk about that on the podcast sixty Day Hustle
excited to dive into his world of knowledge when it
comes to business marketing. He's been in an influencer space,
fitness space, hosting space, he does it all.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
This is gonna be really educational and he helps brands
become super successful, multimillion dollar brands. So it's exciting now
that we are entrepreneurs, Eric and we have businesses running.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
We need we need Rudy. Bring him in. Rudy, Welcome
to our podcast. This is exciting. After we I guess
we can talk a little bit about this venture we
did hasn't aired yet, but we were able to take
part in the season finale, season two finale of Sixty
Day Hustle, which you host. We'll talk more about that
(01:58):
in a second and that show, but we want to
dive right in to your background, your journey, everything we've
learned about you. I don't think it was linear. It
wasn't just straightforward I'm going to go into business, right.
It was sort of a you've been in You've had
your hands in many different things, but always building a
(02:18):
brand along the way.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, totally. So. My parents, like I grew up in
pro sport, but they had no money, so it's kind
of weird because they were, like my mom was a
pro athlete and my dad was the team manager of
the Great Britain Olympic team. So I saw like this
high level performance and achievement with no money. So I
think I kind of took that and carved it into
a need to always make a lot of money and
(02:41):
put my focus there. And yeah, I've always been entrepreneurial,
selling as a kid in school, then buying real estate
at like eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one, twenty two, running
nightclub events, starting a business at eighteen. Yeah, I always
just it's like the game of business, I say, for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And I mean, and you also have been in the
influencer space, the acting space or and the hosting space.
You've been in many different markets and entertainment. But I
think what's genius is you've brought all of that together
into the business world, right.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You know, I really just do stuff I enjoy, and
then I go, how do I make money out of this,
you know, and create a great product. So and I
think I have ADHD and so I get bored very quickly. So,
like I've noticed in my life, I have like a
three year life cycle. Every three years, I need a
new challenge, whether it's a new sport, a new business model,
a new concept. So yeah, it just kind of follows
(03:35):
that cycle.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, let's talk about one thing just so our you know,
this is gonna have stuff on social clips and I
know people are gonna say, what's up with all the
red And I think it's important people understand it's not
just a red chair, it's not just a red shirt.
There is or you know, everything behind you has read
in it. There's a reason to that that people can
actually learn from.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, well it's all my brands. So basically a few
years ago I made and generated tens of millions of
dollars as an agency owner, and then as when I
first started in the fitness space, and then I wanted
to really grow my personal brand more in the educational
space around marketing, social media and business. That's what I
loved and I think every brand needs something to find,
(04:18):
something that defines them, right. So Apple has sleep products,
you know, minimalist approach in their stores, modern user friendly.
You know, Louis Baton has a certain style of a
bag where you see that you know, you see it
and you know what, it's a Louis Baton back right.
And I worked early on, about ten years ago over
a lot of WWE wrestlers, and I learned from them too.
(04:41):
They all had a gimmick, you know. I worked and
became friendly with people like Raymasterio and Bulk Cogan and
Rick Flair, and these guys all had their gimmick, right,
So I kind of just saw that that every brand
had their thing, and I said, Okay, when I start
my personal brand, I'm going to do everything bread because
in marketing, people teach news red and it's like a warning.
(05:02):
And I like to do the opposite of what everyone
says in life, and I like to be bold and
stand out. And I actually think that's what makes you
win in the game of business and marketing is standing
out from the crowd. And that's what I teach. So
we did it on a much smaller scale and then
we just listen to feedback. Everyone loved it. It started
really snowballing. And I'm a very extreme person, so it's like,
(05:23):
you give me an inch and I make a mile.
And now we have, you know, all the stuff have
to wear red. We have all our podcasts that are
off the twelve thousand square puts of offices are all red,
and my cars were red. My hair's normally red, but
it faded. They swim a lot. Everything's red. Good.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So you think somebody that is going to start a brand,
if they don't have a very specific identity, something that
immediately it is memorable.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Let's say you think that they're going to have trouble.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think it helps for sure, right, Like I think
having something that they that people can resume, you know,
and brands take years to build, just to be clear, right,
it's not like a brand this bill overnight. So it's
not like, hey, they're not going to make any sales
if they don't do it. It's more the longevity side
of it, right, Like I teach a lot of I
teach a lot of businesses, business and marketing, and you
(06:12):
almost have to do two things. It's time of like
losing weight, you have to try and do diet and
exercise well. In business, you have to try and make
sales every day, right and and hit your weekly monthly quoters,
and you have to be building that long term brand
and foundation behind.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It makes sense.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's very complicated, fascinating.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Tatting the brand and being a successful business owner is
not easy, which leads me to one of my questions.
Even for you, Rudin, Look, you've clearly had success, but
I'm sure along the way you've had some failures that
you've learned from. Right, Like every business founder, entrepreneur, nobody's
one hundred percent track record, nobody. What can you share
some of those lessons or early failures that led you
(06:52):
to success. I mean, I know there's probably a lot,
and it's a very detailed answer, but if there's anything
you need to you know share.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, I know those a few good ones and everyone's
had it and it doesn't Also like the bigger you get,
you still have a lot of failures and problems. That's
like part of business. It's like I always say, if
you if you think business is going to get better
or easier, it's like saying you're going to take up
box in and you're not going to get punched. Actually,
when you become a pro, well, Mike Tyson punches harder
than the guys you trained with ten years ago. Right,
(07:20):
So actually you get punched harder as you as you
get better. And business is the same. You know, we've
had employees stealing fraum us, We've had uh processors holding
hundreds of thousands of dollars that caused me to have
to like lay layoff departments and lost like half probably
(07:40):
like half a year of revenue, like millions and millions
of dollars because then I didn't have ads. Then cascaded
into this massive thing all because we grew too fast,
Like we actually grew too fass. They said, oh, we
didn't know you were growing that fast. We need to
hold like half a million dollar reserve. Now I'm like, oh,
that's great. So lots of random things that you don't
unexpecting business, you know. My one of my first partnerships
(08:03):
I made for about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars
in a weekend as a joint sort of venture for
this sort of celebrity fitness person. And I didn't have
good contracts and stuff back then. I was just very
trusting as like a twenty six year old. And then
he brings me the two days after he gets the
money in his account and renegotiates the deal and cuts
(08:23):
me out basically, and I get like, oh my god,
thirty grand instead of a two hundred grand. So all
these things, you know, But I think the reason I'm
successful and I always teach this is I don't let
those things stop me. It's just like part of the game, right,
the game of business or the sport of business. It's
not a straight line, and you just got accepted as
(08:44):
part of it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
What would be your mission statement, Rudy? Within your company,
you have a big amount of employees, you have built
something that is pretty much like an empire. Did you
guys live a way that you know our mission statement
as a company is and we don't deva from that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah. Yeah, Interestingly we're kind of doing that similar. So
I have a few companies. I'll break it down quickly
and answer that question. So we have three main companies
or divisions. One is my personal brand and our education
business where we try and educate and empower and help
small business owners and entrepreneurs live their dream and impact
the world through their products and services by helping them
(09:22):
with growth and marketing. And then we have our kind
of network studio side where we create documentaries and content
around business, entrepreneurship, personal development, achieving your goals, and you know,
for the entertainment side. Ironically, our sort of little tagline
is stream success and the idea is to create content
(09:45):
where people actually learn and make their lives better every
single night, you know, and so many people are moving
to entrepreneurship and personal development, Like I'm really excited about
where that's going. And then on our business side, you know,
it's basically helping entrepreneurs grow because we believe their products
and services will change the world, right and if we
(10:05):
can help enough of them improve their business that they
can help millions of people through their what they do.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
In this world that we live in now, with AI
becoming so prevalent, that is pretty much over overtaking everything
when it comes to entrepreneurship, you know, and people that
want to start brands, do you think that it's absolutely
crucial to understand AI and their capabilities and introduce that part.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Into your business.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I think AI is like the Internet, right, So if
you look at when the Internet started, you could probably
get away not using it for a few years, and
then it got so big where you had to kind
of adapt, And I think AI is the same, like
you can get away with not using it right now,
but in five ten years the well, even right now,
what you can do with AI, like what we do
(10:55):
in some of our companies with AI, would take dozens
of staff and the ability to create stuff. I have
to send you guys stuff offline because it's mind blowing.
So it's like you start getting It's like saying, do
you want to run a marathon without trainers? Well, you
can run the marathon without the trainers, but are you
going to do as well as if you run it
with the trainers? Right? And then you're going to have
(11:15):
a PB and compete with other people as good as
you without trainers. No, you're probably going to lose. So
I think you can still do okay and fine without it,
but eventually it will catch up where it's becoming more
and more important, And it's kind of like the Internet, like, hey,
why not learn now how to use it? Because in
five years, when it's like you almost have to to
compete and play in a fair battlefield, you don't want
(11:38):
to be the person starting up just trying to figure
it out. You want to be the person that's been
moving with technology and learning as you go.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It makes a lot of sense, and it's interesting. I
want to actually merge that question into something when it
comes to social media, because obviously you were somebody early
on Facebook ads, jumping in and all that. A lot of
people like myself resisted TikTok, Resist did a lot of
platforms because I just didn't want to deal with it.
Now I started my own business, I realized, you know,
she's one of the first got me on. You got
to do TikTok. You gotta do this, You got to
(12:07):
build out social media Now to some extent, it's a
necessary evil in a way, like you have to have
it for brands, you have to be able to build
and you have to even as a young company, social
media is important. However, what I'm curious, if you know
the answer to or even as best to your abilities,
is why isn't it that? Why is it that social
media doesn't always lead to sales? Like it's a great
(12:28):
marketing tool, right, you can bring awareness of a brand,
but it doesn't translate. And you see it very clearly.
Somebody could have one hundred million followers and there's no
way they're getting one hundred million products sold. You know
what I mean? Why is that? Or to the best
of your ability?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
No, No, it's a great question. I actually taught so
every Monday I teach to my whole group, and yesterday
I taught on a topic called the customer journey and
those three main phases of the customer journey that literally
answer this question. The first phase is the awareness phase, right,
and you have to get awareness of your product brand,
and even before that, what you do and what you're
an expert out or what you're grade at solving the
(13:05):
problem you solve, right. And I always teach influencers and
social media people are amazing at the awareness phase, right,
they can get attention right. Then the middle phase is
the sales process phase right, where you're getting people to
your website or into your physical location and you're selling them.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
You know there's a conversion, there's a transactional amount happening,
and marketers people like me, we're the best at that
middle phase. Right. And then the final phase is the loyalty,
retention and up selling where you take it from one
sale to them becoming a lifelong fan. And I always
use Apple as a great example. I teach my audience,
(13:43):
I say, how many, how many, how much will you
spend with Apple over your lifetime? Right? And that amount
is tens of thousands of dollars because they're a great
job at making it what we call stick sticky, right,
Like you're never going to leave Apple because your music's
on there, your photos are on there, your contax are
on there, you're going to upgrade every year your phone,
You're going to have a Mac, all those things. Right,
(14:05):
So there's three phases, and if you want to really
be great at business, you want to get great at
all three phases. Influencers and social media people are great
at the attention phase. They're not as good at the
sales and marketing middle phase and maybe the product back
end phase. So yeah, I mean social media is the
first part of the phase. It's a lot of competition,
(14:25):
and then you have to create a bridge to the
product side and the sales process side and the marketing side.
And if you don't understand how to do that, then yeah,
it's not going to happen by itself and it becomes complicated.
And that's kind of obviously part of what we teach.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
So how do you do it, Rudy? If you have
some but left.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
For example, I invested in this company my dear friend
of mine, Lisa Jamal. She is a social media agent.
You know, she has a company that she deals with
all the social media for big, big brands and big companies.
So she came up with this idea of doing like
the uber of social media, meaning you have an app,
it's called social app, social agent. I'm sorry, you have
(15:13):
an app that you are at a dinner and with
friends and you don't want to spend time taking pictures.
So you basically go to your app. You book a photographer,
like a content creator. They show up within thirty minutes,
they do all this content within fifteen minutes. You get
the raw material. Within a couple of hours, you get
reels edited. It's so convenient. I think she's a rock
star and I think this thing is going to be huge. Anyways,
(15:34):
it's starting. She's in the process of hiring the social agents.
We're going to start in Los Angeles. To make the
story short, she says to me, Ross, we created this
reel with the girl that went to you guys during Christmas,
to create your reel for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
With your family.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
If they turn out to be beautiful, their girl comes
in within half an hour, I have a beautiful real
that I'm able to post with my family.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Just say maybe Christmas to everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And they did like a little testimonial with the agent,
the sales agent that came to the house and I
said you know what I think is better, Lisa, If
I do a little video talking about how I excited
I am about this new venture because I believe in it,
because I think it's incredible, and then people will swipe
and we go to the real of Veronica, which is
your agent. I believe that that way is going to
be more impactful. Fast forward to eight hundreds of thousands
(16:24):
of us, right, everybody, Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
The whole thing was about I want people to pre
download the app, so it's out. If I look at it,
the awareness was incredible, a lot of clicks, a lot
of views. Now does it mean that it's going to actually.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Create pre downloads? I ask her, how did you do?
Did it work? I haven't got an answer yet, so
I don't know. That's okay if that's a bad side.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So then as as a celebrity, right, or somebody that
has a lot of awareness, I come out with a
product that I truly believe in. Right, I get all
the clicks, I get all the thousands of comments, I
get everybody excited. How can I now learn to convert
that into an actual sale?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah? Great? I mean there's a lot to unpack there,
but just quickly, like there's a big difference between engagement
and attention and then transaction, right, and and what the
missing gap sometimes is the connection and that middle phase
that like people that do a lot of social media, right,
you're maybe an expert at telling the story, getting people excited,
(17:35):
getting the engagement right. And that's the first battle, and
it's that's awesome. But then the second battle, which I
haven't watched this, I don't know what's missed, if there
is anything missing, but the second battle is towards the
end of the video. There has there has to be
a call to action. There has to be a clear outcome.
There has to be a pain. And if you're watching
this and you want to, you know, get photos with
(17:56):
your friends at your next dinner and spend the time
enjoying the act actual dinner instead of using your iPhone
the whole time taking photos and try and create content
out of it. Well, I have a free trial where
you can get someone to come to your next diner
for free and do it all for you. Just click
and put yourself on the waiting list. You see what
I mean. There has to be that connector phase and
a lot of times that's missing because content creators are
(18:19):
so good at making the content they don't almost want
to do the sales part right. It's kind of like
you get it. Can get a lot of people that
come and get a free sample of food as they
walk past the restaurant. But the person's got to be like, Okay,
you tried the food. Now you've got to come in
and you try order the pizza. You know you need
you to buy a pizza now, I'm not just try
(18:39):
and keep walking. So that is often the first step
that's missing is the call to you know, pulling them
in the sales part right, And that can be hard
sometimes because people that post a lot of social you
don't want to almost feel salesy and sell, but you've
got to sell well.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You imagine, even if you're walking through the store, you know,
you see an air one hopefully any store they're out
samples out You're like, oh, I'll do a free sample.
Oh it's pretty good. You just keep walking on your
way like that person has to now convert you to
be a customer. Yeah, it's just giving you the sample. Yep,
how do I get you to buy?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
And in person sales it is awkward because you've got
to be like, well tried it, come on, like, come
on in right, someone stood outside the shop. I want
to do that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's there is an art. There is an art to
being a great salesperson. And also you know it kind
of lends itself. And just for our listeners to understand this,
there's branding and there's marketing. Right, two different things, very different,
but they often get lumped together. Like I'm bringing on,
we got to focus on branding and marketing. It feels
like it's one thing. Yeah, but it's really not right.
(19:41):
I mean, can you explain just in a quick you know,
phrase of what the main difference is for our listeners.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, branding to like and there is no wand definition,
but how I teach and see branding is. Branding is
all the stuff that you're known for that makes up
what you do, that people resonate with, that people attract
to and we'll remember you buy.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
So for me, it's it's the red and it's what
I teach and my maybe controversial beliefs or whatever. Right,
who I am as a person, because I'm a personal
brand too.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Branding for Apple is do you know what an iPhone looks? Like,
do you need to see a logo? No, you know
an iPhone? If you walk past an Apple store, do
you know it's an Apple store without even looking at
the top of the building. Yes, because that's branding right
if you do. If you see a Louisa tombag, do
you need to ask the person, Hey, is that a
Louisa tombag or is that a Gucci bag? No, that's
(20:32):
branding right. Marketing is more direct. It's it's asking for
the sale in more of a general advertising format. So
marketing might be if Apple actually makes an ad and
the end of the ad, there's the new iPhone and
there's a website link for a QR code that they
scan and it goes to a landing page and then
you can pre order. Right, or marketing is when Apple
(20:55):
sends out emails. So to me, marketing is the more
strategic tacticals side of selling. Right is the website, it's
the ads on social media where they're boosting them and
there's a call to action and a buy now. Budding
and branding is all the fun, fluffy, amazing stuff that
comes around it.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, I think that, I mean, that explains it very well,
and it's a perfect segue into why people should watch
Sixty Day Hustle in my opinion, like, there's so much
to learn if you are interested in business. Listen. I
was a Shark Tank still kind of am, but a
Shark Tank fanatic. This is very different in a sense
(21:34):
because this is a show about teaching the everyday entrepreneur
who wants to start a company. Who went on there.
There's contestants on the show obviously that get you know,
one hundred thousand dollars prize at the end, but the
what you get as a viewer is an education in business,
how you want to launch a company, how you want
to build a brand, and you're getting it from some
of the best you know, Rudy other guests at Ross
(21:55):
who is on there as well, like people that have
built companies. Tell us a little bit more about your
journey in Sixty Day Hustle, what that's been like. We
loved being on there as guest judges in the finale
of season two. But I truly think this is a
show people should watch, not just for pere entertainment, but
for the education.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah. Well, you know, ironically, me and the producers and
the studio that you know, I partnered with Sonic Guards.
We shared an alignment of being entrepreneurs, having a passion
to educate and inspire many more entrepreneurs, and to try
and do it in a fun education, fun and educational
and entertaining way. And that's what I'm also focused on
(22:35):
with all my own content and my own network and
studio that I run independently, is trying to make entrepreneurship
and business fun.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
It's like we all know who in school we get
we switch off very easily when stuff's not fun, and
we take to the stuff that we do enjoy our pe,
physical education, whatever those classes are. So yeah, really, our
go there is to show the real the ups and
downs of entrepreneurship because I think people should see the
bad side too. It's not all sunshine rainbows because a
(23:06):
lot of people live through it and they don't realize
that's actually normal. They think they're a bad entrepreneur or
their business sucks. It's like no, even I always remind
people and like, if you think you're going for a
hard time because you've your launch failed, or you paid
a website company ten ground and they flopped, the biggest
companies in the world, they're getting a three hundred million
dollar lawsuit from the government. Try fighting the government for
(23:27):
three hundred million dollars like they're problems. Yes, they're much
bigger and they have more money to deal with it.
But I'm sure the CEO's up at night going, wow,
we just got subpoenaed by the government for a three
hundred million dollar data breachy, Like you're always going to
have problems, you know. So we want to show that
side to what it really takes and the beauty of
entrepreneurship that you can pursue your dreams, you can create
(23:49):
a product, and showing you some educational tips along the
way on the tactics of actually how to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, And I also do there's an interesting aspect look
on this show. How many contestants do you start with?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Wow? Last season one we started with you know, around
ten or twelve. We have a few more this time.
I don't want to spoil too much, but yeah, we've
got a bigger group in season two and every season
every season, an episode I would just say is more aggressive.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, and bottom line is there's gonna be a winner. Yeah.
And in business, I think there's a couple of things
that I've learned along the way, and not just from
being an entrepreneur, but just acting in general. Like in
our world, you're gonna get a lot of nose. Knows
are part of business, it's part of our entertainment. But
it's just yeah, I have a friend that has a
podcast ten thousand no's, like you're gonna get way more
(24:35):
nose before you get a yes. And that's across the board.
But also in entrepreneurship, it doesn't mean you consider yourself
a failure, doesn't mean you give up or quit. I mean,
what is it the stat it's like ninety something percent
of startups fail. Yeah, right, Like even if they go
quite a long way, they still don't make it to
full success of being acquired or profitable or whatever. It
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is part of the journey of being an entrepreneur. So
you really need to love what you do. Even what
you do, just get as much knowledge and education as possible,
information and hustle. That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, entrepreneurship, I say, it's just like anything else in life. Right,
Like when you start dating, you're not probably going to
marry the first person you meet and go on a
date with. Maybe you will, but most it's you have
to go on many dates. Right, If you try and
shoot a basketball, you maybe make many shots before you
score the first time. It's just that's the story of life,
(25:29):
you know. And the winners and the losers. The only
separation is the winners keep going when they get knocked
down or fool down many many times.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Absolutely, Now, this has been great.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, we want to encourage everybody to check it out.
Six days hustle guys. It was such a wonderful experience
for us. And you know we're doing we're branding, you know,
as actors know we want to We're entrepreneurs.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He has public We're developing a motel, so we're.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
We're we We think that we are pretty knowledgeable and
it was interesting to go and be a judge at
a show like yours and there was so much to learn.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I was like, oh my god, we know nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We got uncomfortable. What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's a lot of fun. It's going to be a
great season. I can't wait to see the whole second
season play out. It's on Amazon and we have a
we have a premier date. We have a premier date
for season two.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
The end of the year. So yeah, if you you know,
obviously check out season one, gets that's happening, and then
you know, follow me and the page sixty day House
on Instagram, etcetera, and you'll you'll be getting lots of
teasers and announcements for season two very soon.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Well, thank you, Rudy. This was fantastic and inspirational and
we love it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, look forward to the next one.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Thanks, that was a lot of fun. That was really cool.
Rudy is plus of knowledge. He knows so much and
it's been really fun to get to know him post
sixty Day Hustle and learn from him. We plan on
teaming up on other stuff here in the future, but
I love picking the brains of people who know business
(27:13):
inside and out, and like he said, they're still learning
as well. And if you want to be in this world,
you have to continue to just garner the knowledge. Learn, learn, learn. Yes,
So Rudy, thank you and until next time you love you,
Thanks for listening. Don't forget to write us a review
and tell us what you think.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
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iHeartRadio dot com. He said, AB is part of iHeartRadio's
Mike Wulap podcast network.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
See you next time I
This is he said, ayah with Eric Winter and Rodlin fantag.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, Hello, welcome to the episode, he said, A d ho,
welcome back to us. We had a great vacation. My
wife is looking much more like herself, a little stressed out,
but that's also like herself.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Are you so stressed.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Because life, No, don't be stressed anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You know the things that are happening in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We're in the middle of a war and it's stress
and my chichon doesn't go away, and my elbow still
hear its.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Fat right.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
He's like, it's like if you read that like a
fright stuff shut up is like a bump.
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My bomb is still there. My doctor the second rain
drainage drainage, the stitches were really really high up, so
you don't really see them because they're like all the
wy up here.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thank God. But I touch it and get it looked
at again, and I hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Jump in. We have an awesome guest today, Rudy Moore,
who is somebody we've become very friendly with. We we're
guests on one of his on his show that's on Amazon.
We'll talk about that on the podcast sixty Day Hustle
excited to dive into his world of knowledge when it
comes to business marketing. He's been in an influencer space,
fitness space, hosting space, he does it all.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
This is gonna be really educational and he helps brands
become super successful, multimillion dollar brands. So it's exciting now
that we are entrepreneurs, Eric and we have businesses running.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
We need we need Rudy. Bring him in. Rudy, Welcome
to our podcast. This is exciting. After we I guess
we can talk a little bit about this venture we
did hasn't aired yet, but we were able to take
part in the season finale, season two finale of Sixty
Day Hustle, which you host. We'll talk more about that
(01:58):
in a second and that show, but we want to
dive right in to your background, your journey, everything we've
learned about you. I don't think it was linear. It
wasn't just straightforward I'm going to go into business, right.
It was sort of a you've been in You've had
your hands in many different things, but always building a
(02:18):
brand along the way.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, totally. So. My parents, like I grew up in
pro sport, but they had no money, so it's kind
of weird because they were, like my mom was a
pro athlete and my dad was the team manager of
the Great Britain Olympic team. So I saw like this
high level performance and achievement with no money. So I
think I kind of took that and carved it into
a need to always make a lot of money and
(02:41):
put my focus there. And yeah, I've always been entrepreneurial,
selling as a kid in school, then buying real estate
at like eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one, twenty two, running
nightclub events, starting a business at eighteen. Yeah, I always
just it's like the game of business, I say, for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And I mean, and you also have been in the
influencer space, the acting space or and the hosting space.
You've been in many different markets and entertainment. But I
think what's genius is you've brought all of that together
into the business world, right.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You know, I really just do stuff I enjoy, and
then I go, how do I make money out of this,
you know, and create a great product. So and I
think I have ADHD and so I get bored very quickly. So,
like I've noticed in my life, I have like a
three year life cycle. Every three years, I need a
new challenge, whether it's a new sport, a new business model,
a new concept. So yeah, it just kind of follows
(03:35):
that cycle.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, let's talk about one thing just so our you know,
this is gonna have stuff on social clips and I
know people are gonna say, what's up with all the
red And I think it's important people understand it's not
just a red chair, it's not just a red shirt.
There is or you know, everything behind you has read
in it. There's a reason to that that people can
actually learn from.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, well it's all my brands. So basically a few
years ago I made and generated tens of millions of
dollars as an agency owner, and then as when I
first started in the fitness space, and then I wanted
to really grow my personal brand more in the educational
space around marketing, social media and business. That's what I
loved and I think every brand needs something to find,
(04:18):
something that defines them, right. So Apple has sleep products,
you know, minimalist approach in their stores, modern user friendly.
You know, Louis Baton has a certain style of a
bag where you see that you know, you see it
and you know what, it's a Louis Baton back right.
And I worked early on, about ten years ago over
a lot of WWE wrestlers, and I learned from them too.
(04:41):
They all had a gimmick, you know. I worked and
became friendly with people like Raymasterio and Bulk Cogan and
Rick Flair, and these guys all had their gimmick, right,
So I kind of just saw that that every brand
had their thing, and I said, Okay, when I start
my personal brand, I'm going to do everything bread because
in marketing, people teach news red and it's like a warning.
(05:02):
And I like to do the opposite of what everyone
says in life, and I like to be bold and
stand out. And I actually think that's what makes you
win in the game of business and marketing is standing
out from the crowd. And that's what I teach. So
we did it on a much smaller scale and then
we just listen to feedback. Everyone loved it. It started
really snowballing. And I'm a very extreme person, so it's like,
(05:23):
you give me an inch and I make a mile.
And now we have, you know, all the stuff have
to wear red. We have all our podcasts that are
off the twelve thousand square puts of offices are all red,
and my cars were red. My hair's normally red, but
it faded. They swim a lot. Everything's red. Good.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So you think somebody that is going to start a brand,
if they don't have a very specific identity, something that
immediately it is memorable.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Let's say you think that they're going to have trouble.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think it helps for sure, right, Like I think
having something that they that people can resume, you know,
and brands take years to build, just to be clear, right,
it's not like a brand this bill overnight. So it's
not like, hey, they're not going to make any sales
if they don't do it. It's more the longevity side
of it, right, Like I teach a lot of I
teach a lot of businesses, business and marketing, and you
(06:12):
almost have to do two things. It's time of like
losing weight, you have to try and do diet and
exercise well. In business, you have to try and make
sales every day, right and and hit your weekly monthly quoters,
and you have to be building that long term brand
and foundation behind.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It makes sense.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's very complicated, fascinating.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Tatting the brand and being a successful business owner is
not easy, which leads me to one of my questions.
Even for you, Rudin, Look, you've clearly had success, but
I'm sure along the way you've had some failures that
you've learned from. Right, Like every business founder, entrepreneur, nobody's
one hundred percent track record, nobody. What can you share
some of those lessons or early failures that led you
(06:52):
to success. I mean, I know there's probably a lot,
and it's a very detailed answer, but if there's anything
you need to you know share.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, I know those a few good ones and everyone's
had it and it doesn't Also like the bigger you get,
you still have a lot of failures and problems. That's
like part of business. It's like I always say, if
you if you think business is going to get better
or easier, it's like saying you're going to take up
box in and you're not going to get punched. Actually,
when you become a pro, well, Mike Tyson punches harder
than the guys you trained with ten years ago. Right,
(07:20):
So actually you get punched harder as you as you
get better. And business is the same. You know, we've
had employees stealing fraum us, We've had uh processors holding
hundreds of thousands of dollars that caused me to have
to like lay layoff departments and lost like half probably
(07:40):
like half a year of revenue, like millions and millions
of dollars because then I didn't have ads. Then cascaded
into this massive thing all because we grew too fast,
Like we actually grew too fass. They said, oh, we
didn't know you were growing that fast. We need to
hold like half a million dollar reserve. Now I'm like, oh,
that's great. So lots of random things that you don't
unexpecting business, you know. My one of my first partnerships
(08:03):
I made for about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars
in a weekend as a joint sort of venture for
this sort of celebrity fitness person. And I didn't have
good contracts and stuff back then. I was just very
trusting as like a twenty six year old. And then
he brings me the two days after he gets the
money in his account and renegotiates the deal and cuts
(08:23):
me out basically, and I get like, oh my god,
thirty grand instead of a two hundred grand. So all
these things, you know, But I think the reason I'm
successful and I always teach this is I don't let
those things stop me. It's just like part of the game, right,
the game of business or the sport of business. It's
not a straight line, and you just got accepted as
(08:44):
part of it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
What would be your mission statement, Rudy? Within your company,
you have a big amount of employees, you have built
something that is pretty much like an empire. Did you
guys live a way that you know our mission statement
as a company is and we don't deva from that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah. Yeah, Interestingly we're kind of doing that similar. So
I have a few companies. I'll break it down quickly
and answer that question. So we have three main companies
or divisions. One is my personal brand and our education
business where we try and educate and empower and help
small business owners and entrepreneurs live their dream and impact
the world through their products and services by helping them
(09:22):
with growth and marketing. And then we have our kind
of network studio side where we create documentaries and content
around business, entrepreneurship, personal development, achieving your goals, and you know,
for the entertainment side. Ironically, our sort of little tagline
is stream success and the idea is to create content
(09:45):
where people actually learn and make their lives better every
single night, you know, and so many people are moving
to entrepreneurship and personal development, Like I'm really excited about
where that's going. And then on our business side, you know,
it's basically helping entrepreneurs grow because we believe their products
and services will change the world, right and if we
(10:05):
can help enough of them improve their business that they
can help millions of people through their what they do.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
In this world that we live in now, with AI
becoming so prevalent, that is pretty much over overtaking everything
when it comes to entrepreneurship, you know, and people that
want to start brands, do you think that it's absolutely
crucial to understand AI and their capabilities and introduce that part.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Into your business.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I think AI is like the Internet, right, So if
you look at when the Internet started, you could probably
get away not using it for a few years, and
then it got so big where you had to kind
of adapt, And I think AI is the same, like
you can get away with not using it right now,
but in five ten years the well, even right now,
what you can do with AI, like what we do
(10:55):
in some of our companies with AI, would take dozens
of staff and the ability to create stuff. I have
to send you guys stuff offline because it's mind blowing.
So it's like you start getting It's like saying, do
you want to run a marathon without trainers? Well, you
can run the marathon without the trainers, but are you
going to do as well as if you run it
with the trainers? Right? And then you're going to have
(11:15):
a PB and compete with other people as good as
you without trainers. No, you're probably going to lose. So
I think you can still do okay and fine without it,
but eventually it will catch up where it's becoming more
and more important, And it's kind of like the Internet, like, hey,
why not learn now how to use it? Because in
five years, when it's like you almost have to to
compete and play in a fair battlefield, you don't want
(11:38):
to be the person starting up just trying to figure
it out. You want to be the person that's been
moving with technology and learning as you go.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It makes a lot of sense, and it's interesting. I
want to actually merge that question into something when it
comes to social media, because obviously you were somebody early
on Facebook ads, jumping in and all that. A lot of
people like myself resisted TikTok, Resist did a lot of
platforms because I just didn't want to deal with it.
Now I started my own business, I realized, you know,
she's one of the first got me on. You got
to do TikTok. You gotta do this, You got to
(12:07):
build out social media Now to some extent, it's a
necessary evil in a way, like you have to have
it for brands, you have to be able to build
and you have to even as a young company, social
media is important. However, what I'm curious, if you know
the answer to or even as best to your abilities,
is why isn't it that? Why is it that social
media doesn't always lead to sales? Like it's a great
(12:28):
marketing tool, right, you can bring awareness of a brand,
but it doesn't translate. And you see it very clearly.
Somebody could have one hundred million followers and there's no
way they're getting one hundred million products sold. You know
what I mean? Why is that? Or to the best
of your ability?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
No, No, it's a great question. I actually taught so
every Monday I teach to my whole group, and yesterday
I taught on a topic called the customer journey and
those three main phases of the customer journey that literally
answer this question. The first phase is the awareness phase, right,
and you have to get awareness of your product brand,
and even before that, what you do and what you're
an expert out or what you're grade at solving the
(13:05):
problem you solve, right. And I always teach influencers and
social media people are amazing at the awareness phase, right,
they can get attention right. Then the middle phase is
the sales process phase right, where you're getting people to
your website or into your physical location and you're selling them.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
You know there's a conversion, there's a transactional amount happening,
and marketers people like me, we're the best at that
middle phase. Right. And then the final phase is the loyalty,
retention and up selling where you take it from one
sale to them becoming a lifelong fan. And I always
use Apple as a great example. I teach my audience,
(13:43):
I say, how many, how many, how much will you
spend with Apple over your lifetime? Right? And that amount
is tens of thousands of dollars because they're a great
job at making it what we call stick sticky, right,
Like you're never going to leave Apple because your music's
on there, your photos are on there, your contax are
on there, you're going to upgrade every year your phone,
You're going to have a Mac, all those things. Right,
(14:05):
So there's three phases, and if you want to really
be great at business, you want to get great at
all three phases. Influencers and social media people are great
at the attention phase. They're not as good at the
sales and marketing middle phase and maybe the product back
end phase. So yeah, I mean social media is the
first part of the phase. It's a lot of competition,
(14:25):
and then you have to create a bridge to the
product side and the sales process side and the marketing side.
And if you don't understand how to do that, then yeah,
it's not going to happen by itself and it becomes complicated.
And that's kind of obviously part of what we teach.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
So how do you do it, Rudy? If you have
some but left.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
For example, I invested in this company my dear friend
of mine, Lisa Jamal. She is a social media agent.
You know, she has a company that she deals with
all the social media for big, big brands and big companies.
So she came up with this idea of doing like
the uber of social media, meaning you have an app,
it's called social app, social agent. I'm sorry, you have
(15:13):
an app that you are at a dinner and with
friends and you don't want to spend time taking pictures.
So you basically go to your app. You book a photographer,
like a content creator. They show up within thirty minutes,
they do all this content within fifteen minutes. You get
the raw material. Within a couple of hours, you get
reels edited. It's so convenient. I think she's a rock
star and I think this thing is going to be huge. Anyways,
(15:34):
it's starting. She's in the process of hiring the social agents.
We're going to start in Los Angeles. To make the
story short, she says to me, Ross, we created this
reel with the girl that went to you guys during Christmas,
to create your reel for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
With your family.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
If they turn out to be beautiful, their girl comes
in within half an hour, I have a beautiful real
that I'm able to post with my family.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Just say maybe Christmas to everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And they did like a little testimonial with the agent,
the sales agent that came to the house and I
said you know what I think is better, Lisa, If
I do a little video talking about how I excited
I am about this new venture because I believe in it,
because I think it's incredible, and then people will swipe
and we go to the real of Veronica, which is
your agent. I believe that that way is going to
be more impactful. Fast forward to eight hundreds of thousands
(16:24):
of us, right, everybody, Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
The whole thing was about I want people to pre
download the app, so it's out. If I look at it,
the awareness was incredible, a lot of clicks, a lot
of views. Now does it mean that it's going to actually.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Create pre downloads? I ask her, how did you do?
Did it work? I haven't got an answer yet, so
I don't know. That's okay if that's a bad side.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So then as as a celebrity, right, or somebody that
has a lot of awareness, I come out with a
product that I truly believe in. Right, I get all
the clicks, I get all the thousands of comments, I
get everybody excited. How can I now learn to convert
that into an actual sale?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah? Great? I mean there's a lot to unpack there,
but just quickly, like there's a big difference between engagement
and attention and then transaction, right, and and what the
missing gap sometimes is the connection and that middle phase
that like people that do a lot of social media, right,
you're maybe an expert at telling the story, getting people excited,
(17:35):
getting the engagement right. And that's the first battle, and
it's that's awesome. But then the second battle, which I
haven't watched this, I don't know what's missed, if there
is anything missing, but the second battle is towards the
end of the video. There has there has to be
a call to action. There has to be a clear outcome.
There has to be a pain. And if you're watching
this and you want to, you know, get photos with
(17:56):
your friends at your next dinner and spend the time
enjoying the act actual dinner instead of using your iPhone
the whole time taking photos and try and create content
out of it. Well, I have a free trial where
you can get someone to come to your next diner
for free and do it all for you. Just click
and put yourself on the waiting list. You see what
I mean. There has to be that connector phase and
a lot of times that's missing because content creators are
(18:19):
so good at making the content they don't almost want
to do the sales part right. It's kind of like
you get it. Can get a lot of people that
come and get a free sample of food as they
walk past the restaurant. But the person's got to be like, Okay,
you tried the food. Now you've got to come in
and you try order the pizza. You know you need
you to buy a pizza now, I'm not just try
(18:39):
and keep walking. So that is often the first step
that's missing is the call to you know, pulling them
in the sales part right, And that can be hard
sometimes because people that post a lot of social you
don't want to almost feel salesy and sell, but you've
got to sell well.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You imagine, even if you're walking through the store, you know,
you see an air one hopefully any store they're out
samples out You're like, oh, I'll do a free sample.
Oh it's pretty good. You just keep walking on your
way like that person has to now convert you to
be a customer. Yeah, it's just giving you the sample. Yep,
how do I get you to buy?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
And in person sales it is awkward because you've got
to be like, well tried it, come on, like, come
on in right, someone stood outside the shop. I want
to do that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's there is an art. There is an art to
being a great salesperson. And also you know it kind
of lends itself. And just for our listeners to understand this,
there's branding and there's marketing. Right, two different things, very different,
but they often get lumped together. Like I'm bringing on,
we got to focus on branding and marketing. It feels
like it's one thing. Yeah, but it's really not right.
(19:41):
I mean, can you explain just in a quick you know,
phrase of what the main difference is for our listeners.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, branding to like and there is no wand definition,
but how I teach and see branding is. Branding is
all the stuff that you're known for that makes up
what you do, that people resonate with, that people attract
to and we'll remember you buy.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
So for me, it's it's the red and it's what
I teach and my maybe controversial beliefs or whatever. Right,
who I am as a person, because I'm a personal
brand too.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Branding for Apple is do you know what an iPhone looks? Like,
do you need to see a logo? No, you know
an iPhone? If you walk past an Apple store, do
you know it's an Apple store without even looking at
the top of the building. Yes, because that's branding right
if you do. If you see a Louisa tombag, do
you need to ask the person, Hey, is that a
Louisa tombag or is that a Gucci bag? No, that's
(20:32):
branding right. Marketing is more direct. It's it's asking for
the sale in more of a general advertising format. So
marketing might be if Apple actually makes an ad and
the end of the ad, there's the new iPhone and
there's a website link for a QR code that they
scan and it goes to a landing page and then
you can pre order. Right, or marketing is when Apple
(20:55):
sends out emails. So to me, marketing is the more
strategic tacticals side of selling. Right is the website, it's
the ads on social media where they're boosting them and
there's a call to action and a buy now. Budding
and branding is all the fun, fluffy, amazing stuff that
comes around it.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, I think that, I mean, that explains it very well,
and it's a perfect segue into why people should watch
Sixty Day Hustle in my opinion, like, there's so much
to learn if you are interested in business. Listen. I
was a Shark Tank still kind of am, but a
Shark Tank fanatic. This is very different in a sense
(21:34):
because this is a show about teaching the everyday entrepreneur
who wants to start a company. Who went on there.
There's contestants on the show obviously that get you know,
one hundred thousand dollars prize at the end, but the
what you get as a viewer is an education in business,
how you want to launch a company, how you want
to build a brand, and you're getting it from some
of the best you know, Rudy other guests at Ross
(21:55):
who is on there as well, like people that have
built companies. Tell us a little bit more about your
journey in Sixty Day Hustle, what that's been like. We
loved being on there as guest judges in the finale
of season two. But I truly think this is a
show people should watch, not just for pere entertainment, but
for the education.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah. Well, you know, ironically, me and the producers and
the studio that you know, I partnered with Sonic Guards.
We shared an alignment of being entrepreneurs, having a passion
to educate and inspire many more entrepreneurs, and to try
and do it in a fun education, fun and educational
and entertaining way. And that's what I'm also focused on
(22:35):
with all my own content and my own network and
studio that I run independently, is trying to make entrepreneurship
and business fun.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
It's like we all know who in school we get
we switch off very easily when stuff's not fun, and
we take to the stuff that we do enjoy our pe,
physical education, whatever those classes are. So yeah, really, our
go there is to show the real the ups and
downs of entrepreneurship because I think people should see the
bad side too. It's not all sunshine rainbows because a
(23:06):
lot of people live through it and they don't realize
that's actually normal. They think they're a bad entrepreneur or
their business sucks. It's like no, even I always remind
people and like, if you think you're going for a
hard time because you've your launch failed, or you paid
a website company ten ground and they flopped, the biggest
companies in the world, they're getting a three hundred million
dollar lawsuit from the government. Try fighting the government for
(23:27):
three hundred million dollars like they're problems. Yes, they're much
bigger and they have more money to deal with it.
But I'm sure the CEO's up at night going, wow,
we just got subpoenaed by the government for a three
hundred million dollar data breachy, Like you're always going to
have problems, you know. So we want to show that
side to what it really takes and the beauty of
entrepreneurship that you can pursue your dreams, you can create
(23:49):
a product, and showing you some educational tips along the
way on the tactics of actually how to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, And I also do there's an interesting aspect look
on this show. How many contestants do you start with?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Wow? Last season one we started with you know, around
ten or twelve. We have a few more this time.
I don't want to spoil too much, but yeah, we've
got a bigger group in season two and every season
every season, an episode I would just say is more aggressive.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, and bottom line is there's gonna be a winner. Yeah.
And in business, I think there's a couple of things
that I've learned along the way, and not just from
being an entrepreneur, but just acting in general. Like in
our world, you're gonna get a lot of nose. Knows
are part of business, it's part of our entertainment. But
it's just yeah, I have a friend that has a
podcast ten thousand no's, like you're gonna get way more
(24:35):
nose before you get a yes. And that's across the board.
But also in entrepreneurship, it doesn't mean you consider yourself
a failure, doesn't mean you give up or quit. I mean,
what is it the stat it's like ninety something percent
of startups fail. Yeah, right, Like even if they go
quite a long way, they still don't make it to
full success of being acquired or profitable or whatever. It
(24:56):
is part of the journey of being an entrepreneur. So
you really need to love what you do. Even what
you do, just get as much knowledge and education as possible,
information and hustle. That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, entrepreneurship, I say, it's just like anything else in life. Right,
Like when you start dating, you're not probably going to
marry the first person you meet and go on a
date with. Maybe you will, but most it's you have
to go on many dates. Right, If you try and
shoot a basketball, you maybe make many shots before you
score the first time. It's just that's the story of life,
(25:29):
you know. And the winners and the losers. The only
separation is the winners keep going when they get knocked
down or fool down many many times.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Absolutely, Now, this has been great.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, we want to encourage everybody to check it out.
Six days hustle guys. It was such a wonderful experience
for us. And you know we're doing we're branding, you know,
as actors know we want to We're entrepreneurs.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He has public We're developing a motel, so we're.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
We're we We think that we are pretty knowledgeable and
it was interesting to go and be a judge at
a show like yours and there was so much to learn.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I was like, oh my god, we know nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We got uncomfortable. What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's a lot of fun. It's going to be a
great season. I can't wait to see the whole second
season play out. It's on Amazon and we have a
we have a premier date. We have a premier date
for season two.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
The end of the year. So yeah, if you you know,
obviously check out season one, gets that's happening, and then
you know, follow me and the page sixty day House
on Instagram, etcetera, and you'll you'll be getting lots of
teasers and announcements for season two very soon.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Well, thank you, Rudy. This was fantastic and inspirational and
we love it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, look forward to the next one.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Thanks, that was a lot of fun. That was really cool.
Rudy is plus of knowledge. He knows so much and
it's been really fun to get to know him post
sixty Day Hustle and learn from him. We plan on
teaming up on other stuff here in the future, but
I love picking the brains of people who know business
(27:13):
inside and out, and like he said, they're still learning
as well. And if you want to be in this world,
you have to continue to just garner the knowledge. Learn, learn, learn. Yes,
So Rudy, thank you and until next time you love you,
Thanks for listening. Don't forget to write us a review
and tell us what you think.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
If you want to follow us on Instagram, checks out
at he said As an email Eric and Ross at
iHeartRadio dot com. He said, AB is part of iHeartRadio's
Mike Wulap podcast network.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
See you next time I
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