March 5, 2024 • 28 mins
After Franklin Floyd kidnapped Sandi’s daughter, 6 -year-old Suzie, they left town and never came back. They spent their life on the run, with alias after alias. But they did stay in Forest Park, Georgia for years, long enough for Suzie to graduate from high school with the second highest grades in her class, and earn a scholarship to Georgia Tech. She dreamt of becoming an aerospace engineer and escaping Floyd. A twist of fate would defer both.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, listeners, I want to give you a heads
up that this episode will discuss sexual assault. Please take
care while listening. Previously on Hello John Dale.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
When I couldn't find him, I packed everything in a
duffel bag because somebody said he went to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I was going to find her. I had to find her.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
And I kept screaming, She's not his child, he's not
her father, and he just wanted her. I never thought
it would be the Knight fair it one.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
There's this case I keep returning to. In nineteen sixty two,
a man kidnapped a four year old from a bowling
alley in Hateful Georgia. He didn't make it very far
before the police got him. Authorities all agreed the man
needed psychiatric hile, so they hospitalized him, but he didn't
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get any help. Instead, he escaped from the hospital, stole
a car, and bought a gun. Now he is on
the run. Eventually he ended up in Making Georgia, and
this man, who was just twenty years old, ropped a
bank out of six grand. He said he needed the
cash to appeal his kidnapping conviction, so he went to
prison for the bank robbery and then after it was
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released on parole. He went ahead and tried to kidnap
a woman in Atlanta by forcing himself into her car,
but the man was caught. By now, he was thirty
years old. Here's FBI agent Scott lob So.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
He knew he was going to go back to prison
for that because they knew who it was.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And he goes on to run again towards Charlotte, North Carolina,
where he meets a woman in dire need of help.
She lost her children and was desperate to get them back.
You're probably wondering why I'm telling you about this fugitive.
It's not just a scary story or one of the
horrible things I come across in my work with NamUs.
By now, this man was a known fugitive, and you
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know him too.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Franklin Floyd was caught, his probation clearly violated.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And the mother, desperate to get her kids back from
social services, was of course Sandy. This was the faithful
moment when Floyd kidnapped her daughter, Susie Sabakas. It took
law enforcement several years to put the pieces together. By then,
Floyd had already committed more crimes, each worse than the last,
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and it didn't help police that Floyd used more aliases
than I think anyone's been able to count. Once Agent
Scott lob learned about Floyd, he started asking himself who
was the girl in the room with Floyd?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Wanted to answer was there ever a missing child report
for this girl? And the FBI was never able to
locate one because it didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
While Steve's story was hidden for so long, his sister
SUSY's would end up well documenting. In fact, it was
her kidnapping that first made me aware of this family.
A book had been written about her ordeal. A couple
of decades later, Susie was a subject of a Netflix documentary.
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Susie employed assumed so many aliases over the years. By
the time she was twenty, no one knew who she was,
no one except the man who stole her. Before I
tell you how her twisted story came to light, let's
go back to her high school years, when Susie went
by the name of Sharon Marshall. Sharon was an ambitious
teenager who dreamt of going to college. She had friends,
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but what I've learned is she didn't really confide in anyone.
She kept secrets to herself, including a big one. Floyd
didn't just kidnap Susie. He was now passing her office
his real daughter. My name is Todd Matthews. And this
is hello John Doe. A sleuth, a family, and a
serial killer. The story of a family torn apart by
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a tragedy quest to bring them back together. Chapter five,
The Fugitives. After Floyd left Sandy and took off with
her six year old daughter, he was almost gone without
a trace.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
He'd been all over the country with her, started in Georgia, Florida,
eventually ending up in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
This is former FBI agent Scott lob He had ended
up dedicating several years of his life to this case.
As he began putting the pieces together, he realized that
Floyd criss crossed the country and started passing off his
captive as his daughter.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
We didn't know at the time. The FBI didn't that
with any evidence that Franklin Floyd had kidnapped her. Now
had we had that, certainly there's a kidnapping investigation to
be had there because he drug her all over the country.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
In other words, the FBI would have been on the
case had they known Floyd was crossing state lines. But
remember there wasn't even a missing person's report because when
Sandy tried to report Susia's missing, authorities turned her away
because Andy was married to Floyd. Finally, in the mid eighties,
when Susie was a teenager, they stopped out side of Atlanta, Georgia,
Floyd and Rose Susie in high school. Except he didn't
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use her real name. He told the schooler name was
Sharon Marshall. That's the name I'm going to use for
part of this episode. That's how our friends and you
were back then. Sharon began as a sophomore at Forest
Park High School.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Typical eighties, big hair. It was really a good time.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
The way me or Murdock describes it, it was kind of
an all American high school, kind of like Ferris Bueller's
Day Offer something. She was in Sharon's grade Classic in
nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I was a cheerleader.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yes, we had the jocks, the cheerleaders, but everybody got along.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It wasn't bullying and.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Any of that stuff, So it wasn't like it is today,
totally different.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Every Friday or Saturday nights to play the schools that
surrounded our area, so that was a big thing.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Everybody loved.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
At football games, their mascot was the Panthers. It wasn't
exactly a small town. It was right outside Atlanta, but
it was small enough that you noticed when there was
someone new.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It was kind of weird coming into the middle of
the semester.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I guess this is Sherry Bailey, also class of eighty six.
She was in the gifted program.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I mean, I was gifted, but I was also one
of those that didn't really care.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
In the middle of sophomore year, she noticed a new
student in her gifted English class, Sharon.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
Obviously, her father, her whatever, moved her around a lot,
but she ended up staying I think.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Probably the longest. At first part.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
She was there middle of sophomore year, junior year, and
then senior year.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Sherry noticed a minute she stepped into English class. Everyone
then Sharon was beautiful, blue eyes, long blonde hair that
was blown out, kind of like Farah faucet.
Speaker 8 (07:00):
Of the boys jaws dropped to the floor, and you know
they were They thought that they'd been gifted an angel
from heaven.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She was also exceptionally smart. You had to be to
be in those gifted classes.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
We're Generation X, so we were the ones that you know,
we were.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
The people who basically didn't care.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You know, we still don't. She did the She cared
a lot about her education.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Not just that, but Sharon went out of her way
to be kind.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
She always tried to make other people feel like they
were worthy, specifically people who were not popular, not not smart,
not the normal. She was always rooting for the underdog.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
There was a sweetness of Matterr that Sherry recognized instantly,
the two bonding right away. They went from classmates to
real friends when Sharon started dating Jason. He was Surry's
friend and he was on the football team. Cherry would
pick up both Jason and Sharon from their houses on
the way to school. Sharon lived less than a mile
away from Sherry in a plain, little ranch house.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
I would go to pick her up, and Jason would
have to lay down on the back floorboard of my
car because her dad would date Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So this big old football player would have to squeeze
his ass into the back of sherry seventy eight Mustang.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
So we would pull up and her dad would stand
on the front porch and wait for her to get
into the car and wait for us to leave.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
He always stayed on the porch, so we didn't really
come close to him, but we knew he was creepy.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Sneaking around was a little strange to Sherry, But what
was really strange was that she wasn't allowed inside Sharon's house.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
Her dad would not let us in, and my other
friends who were friends with her were never let inside either.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Sherry said she just seemed embarrassed by Floyd's rules, the
way most teens would be by their parents. But Sherry said,
what made the relationship unusual was how Sharon went out
of her way to do things for her father.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
You know, she had told us that her mom died
of cancer and that she had to take care of
him and do all the things that mom did, you know,
cook for him and clean and do all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So that was why she had to go straight home
after school, which.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Was a weird way to put it, but that was
the way she put it to us.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Sherry didn't know what went on in that ranch house
behind closed doors. No one really did. I don't know
if Sharon, your mom is alive and well and hoping
she'd come home, but even her peers were skeptical of
the story, Sharon told, here's her classmate, me and Murdock again.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
She told one.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Friend that her mom died of cancer, and then told
another friend she died in a car wreck over a bridge.
And then one friend says, well, wait a minute, you
said she died of cancer. She said, well, she had
cancer when she's in the car wreck. So I'm sure
she was just trying to shut them up because she
couldn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Franklin Floyd was a lifelong criminal, and like most he
had patterns. He would kidnap children and he would assault
them when he is barely an adult. Floyd was convicted
of molesting a four year old girl. What kind of
nineteen year old attacks a child in the woods? Floyd did,
and after he kidnapped Sharon, he studied sexually abusing her too,
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from a very young age. This wouldn't come out until
many years later, but on a level, Sherry already knew
what her friend had been going through.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
A Few of the friends that she did make were
people who were also also were abused, But I think
that she probably knew people just generally kind of recognized
people who had been through similar things.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Sharon never told Sherry what was going on at home,
and vice versa. But neither of them had good childhoods
Mine wasn't normal.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I would like to say it was, but it wasn't.
I had stepfather who was sexually abusive me. I just
think that like finds like whether they know why or not,
your heart just think your car just knows.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Based on what Sandy tell me about Floyd's behavior, I
can say he probably controls Sharon with fear. If he
threatened Sandy against leaving, he likely did the same as
Sharon made her stay quiet, not just about the many
names and secrets, but about the abuse. Sharon was trapped
and we had no idea how close we were to
a monster. Though the whole time, Sherry seemed to know
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all was not well with her friend back in high school,
but Mia didn't really get it until her ordeal was
made public. Back then, Mia didn't know it was a
criminal or that her friend needed help.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
People didn't talk about what happened in people's houses, so
nobody would have thought anything different. So after the story
came out, it was very eye opening for all of
us because none of us would have ever thought she.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Lived the life she lived.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
What's amazing, sureI said, is how Sharon maintained such composure.
She got great grades, participated in ROTC, had serious romantic relationships.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
She had a spirit that nobody could break. He knew
he was never able to break her. He tried really hard.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Back then they buckled down and hit the books. Surey said,
Sharon had a seriousness about her a drive.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I don't know that she watched TV.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
I don't remember talking about that at all, because of
course that was of boat days and Fantasy Island and.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
All that good stuff.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
So I think she spent most of her time studying
because that was her escape.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Maybe all that studying would even be her way out,
a way to escape Floyd. Sharry remembered that day in
Gifted class when she showed up ecstatic.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
She had a full ride to Georgia Tech. That was
all she ever wanted. She was beside herself. I mean,
that was what she'd been wanting all along.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
She was absolutely tickled. This was her dream school that
would jump start her aerospace career. Around that time and
senior year, everyone geared up for graduation, excited for what
would come next. But then Sharon's life changed again. She
was with a new boyfriend, a guy named Curtis.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
I was hopelessly, helplessly, deeply crazy about it.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Up until this moment, Sharon was focused on her future
in the file. She was going to move to Atlanta
and start Georgia Tech. Then she would begin her career
in aerospace, maybe as an engineer, maybe she'd go into
space herself. For Sharon, the sky was well the limit.
But then something happened in her senior year that slung
her off course. It would jeopardize everything she didn't build,
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and even if she didn't say anything, the secret she'd
been keeping became clear.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
And then it started being obvious that she was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
She started showing people at school.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Noticed our counselor was a male. He asked a female
counselor to talk to Sharing because he didn't feel comfortable,
and so she brought her in the office and she said, Sharing,
you know, if you're pregnant, your scholarship's going to be avoided.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
You can't have it. And Sharing says, I'm not pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Sharon tried to hide it, but couldn't. She knew what
was at stake. This was nineteen eighty six teenage pregnancy,
particularly in the South was an incredible taboo. She lost
her scholarship.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
They took it away from her because she was pregnant.
They couldn't have that, which ridiculous. I mean, through all
everything that she'd been through, not that they knew that,
but I'm pretty sure she could have still gotten an
aeronautics engineering degree and had a baby and taking care
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know, she could have juggled that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
To me, this feels like such a knife twist. Charon
already endured being kidnapped by Floyd, lied on his behalf,
changed her name from Susie to Sharon, moved around, survived
sexual abuse, and the one thing that stood in the
way of her dreams was some old fashioned policy about
teen pregnancy. Some say it was a school's decision. Curtis
as Floyd kept her from college.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
He talked her out of going.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Here's her friend Cherry again.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
People said that she wasn't at graduation. She was at graduation.
We talked to her in the parking lot. She was
in her cap and gown.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I did see her, but she was nine months pregnant
at graduation. That would not let her walk.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Charon and made salutatorian. Basically, that's the runner up to
the valedictorian. In other words, she was a damn good student.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
She looked so pregnant in that white gown. I don't
even were talked about.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
I just remember, you know, standing out of the parking lot,
talking about what was going to happen after her graduation,
about the parties or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But when Sherry went out that night, she didn't see
Sharon like she had hoped. She didn't see her that
summer either. Sharon just dropped off the map.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
It was that night, you know. It was after that night,
which is never saw each o threed. She just disappeared.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's not like there were social media or even cell phones.
With Sharon out of her house, there wasn't a landline
to call. Sherry kind of assumed Sharon and going somewhere
to have the baby, but wasn't sure what happened beyond that.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
I mean, I guess we must have thought that he
took her somewhere to like a girls, you know, away
where teenage girls or something.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I don't know, but she.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Never forgot about Sharon. Imagine what she'd be doing after
college and into middle age.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
She'd probably be living in Texas working for NASA. I
have a couple of sweet little kids.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
When Cherry thinks about Sharon, she can still picture her
in the hallways at Forest Park High School.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Probably just propped up against lockers, talking and just being
the girls, laughing and being happy. When we finally get
out of side of her dad. She had the you know,
the blown out curl, super blonde, and she weared.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
She would wear Jason's letterman jacket, which.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Would swallow her old because she was all of maybe
five foot two.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Sherry wouldn't be the only person to lose track of
Sharon Marshall. She's right. Right after graduation, Sharon employed packed
up and moved across country, just as Floyd had done
for decades. It was by design. It's why he changed
her name from Susie to Sharon. He didn't want her
to ever be found. So let me tell you what
actually happened. After graduation, Sharon, her boyfriend Curtis, and her
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father left Georgia.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
I pretty much sold everything I had so we could
have money to move out to Arizona.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Curtis wasn't exactly thrilled about the situation. He hated Floyd,
said he was a rattic. He could yell at the
top of his lungs in public.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Sharon or Suzanne would giggle whenever he did that, like
it was nothing, and I'm like sitting there looking at
him like freaking morn. I was nice to him because
of her, and there were a few times where I
tried to talk her into her and I'd taken off
somewhere else, but she didn't want to leave her dad.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That's why Floyd followed him to Arizona. She didn't want
to leave him behind. Previously, Floyd had done odd jobs
for money, but now I let a teenager beat the breadwinner.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
At the time, waterbeds were still kind of popular, so
I do some waterbed installing, so I would work. Those
two would be at home at the apartment. It's a
single level apartment, but I know that Diphit used to
sleep on the couch most of the time. I'm always
complaining about his back and excuse my friends sometimes, but
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I really hate that guy.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
One day, Curtis came home to a horrible surprise. There
were two strangers standing in his apartment.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
She pulled me in the bedroom and told me the
child not yours. I'm giving it up for adoption. And
I'm like flabbergasted, and of course I get mad, I
get pissed. I started screaming because I felt very betrayed.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Curtis kicked the two out, he was so pissed off.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
They ended up moving to staying in a motel or
something in town. She was a waitress somewhere last I heard,
and I just I didn't talk to him again.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
At the time. Curtis Hitt now the full extent of
Floyd's abuse, Mia said she can imagine how scared Sharon
must have been.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
People want to judge and say, why didn't she do
this and that?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
But how can you stand up to a man when
you're that tiny and you're scared of death of him?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
So I'm sure she couldn't stand up. Jim sawen to
stay with Curtis.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The baby, born in nineteen eighty six, was put up
for adoption in Arizona, and not long after Floyd and
Sharon took off again. Floyd had a habit of ducking
and dodging questions. He'd been doing this since the nineteen sixties.
It's what allowed him to continue living as a fugitive.
You could say Stateton federal agencies are also to blame.
Considering how many cracks in the system that Susie fell through.
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Scott lob, the FBI investigator, said it was hard to
pinpoint exactly where they went and why he.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Wouldn't talk about it. He wouldn't talk to anybody about it.
If he did, he he lied and just or just
outright was defiant, said, I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
This was the time before we had cell phones in
our back pockets, bouncing across towers that tracked our every move.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
They didn't have the technology back then, you know, the
instant access to the fingerprint database when he fingerprints somebody.
But when he thought somebody was getting too close, if
something didn't seem right to him, one of the neighbors
gave him a sideways glance or started asking too many questions,
he'd pick up and off they go to the next town.
So he just continually moved when he felt the walls
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were closing in.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Which led them to Florida. Two years after she graduated,
Sharon was pregnant again. This time, it wasn't entirely clear
who the baby's father was, but Floyd apparently thought it
was his. The boy was born on April twenty first,
nineteen eighty eight. Sharon called him Michael Hughes Here's her
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friend Sherry.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Michael was the only one he let her key, and
he knew how much she loved him.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
While in Florida, they moved into the Golden Lantern trailer Park,
and instead of doing anything related to aerospace or Georgia Tay,
Sharon became a dancer at a strip club. It was
called Mann's Venus, and there was a brunette dancer who
apparently took a liking to Sharon. The two became fast friends.
Her name was Cheryl and comesso. Cheryl was a natural performer.
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She always sang and danced, and she was even in
the nineteen eighty seven Miss Brandon beauty pageant, named for
the town where she lived with her family. Her big
dream was to be a playboy, and when Floyd tells
Cheryl he could help her become a centerfold, she believed him.
But in April nineteen eighty nine, Cheryl, who was eighteen
at the time, left home to spend the night with friends.
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That was the last time anyone saw her. She had
ended up being one of the many Jane does in
this story. After Cheryl went missing, Sharon and Floyd left
town again. By this point, they had moved so much
they were always strangers to their neighbors. But this time
Floyd settled on a new tactic. He married Sharon. He
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wasn't just abut her behind closed doors. Now, who's fixing
to pass her off as his wife in public? In
nineteen eighty nine, they got married in New Orleans. She
was just nineteen years old and he was forty six.
He used the name Clarence Marcus Hughes. Susie Sevegas, who
had become Sharon Marshall, now took on another alias, Tanya
don Hughes. Later he'd tell government investigators that it was
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a marriage of convenience so that Michael could have a father,
and this marriage would help him fly under the radar.
Authorities were looking for a man and his daughter, not
a wife.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
They had dialed in where Franklin Floyd had taken her.
He'd been all over the country with her, started in
Georgia to Florida, eventually ending up in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Tanya aka Sharon aka Susie worked as a dancer at
an Oklahoma City strip club. After years on the run,
Floyd was caught in Oklahoma City on a complaint of
assaulting another woman.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
He was a handyman at an apartment complex and got
caught in some girl's apartment.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But Floyd, being slippery, wouldn't stay in custod deeper loan.
He had continued dugging and dodging until authorities finally caught
up with Floyd and locked him up permanently. This time
the charge was murder. After high school graduation, Mia and
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Surry went on with their lives. Mia started organizing class reunions,
but her old classmate Sharon never once showed up. Then
in nineteen ninety one, she got the news our.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Five year reunions.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Someone had said that she had passed away and we
didn't know all the details.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Sharon Marshall. She was found the victim of a hit
and run accident in Oklahoma City and died five days
later in a hospital.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Mia remembers when Curtis found out, he got in.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
His car and drove four hours. I think he said
to her grave.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Site, and then I found out all was shit about Franklin.
It was just stuff starting adding over my head, and
so God, I wish I would have figured that out
for a long time ago. She was approbably had a
better lady, and you know, it really messed with me
for a few years. I felt very guilty.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
This is what the police report said. In April nineteen ninety,
a woman left her motel room in Oklahoma City to
go to a convenience store to buy milk. She was
wearing headphones as she walked along the center of an
interstate road. She was struck by a car. Police identified
her as Tanya Hughes, but when they went looking for
a birth certificate, they found she used the name of
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an infant born in nineteen sixty seven who died in pneumonia.
So who was she? As investigators started to piece this
story together, they realized they hit and run victim was
Sharon Marshall. I know what you're thinking. There are so
many unanswered questions, including.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
A big one.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Who was behind the wheel of the hit and run?
Next time on Hello John Doe.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
The actual folders for the case, I would say, would
stack about six feet high. It's one of the most
unique cases I was ever involved with.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Sometimes I screamed, sometimes I cried.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It was like reading a horror story that you're a
part of, but not a part of.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
I'm about to put my hand up to cut him off,
and that's when he leaned back, closed his eyes, lifted
his head a little bit, and I realized at that
point he was recalling facts.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
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care while listening. Previously on Hello John Dale.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
When I couldn't find him, I packed everything in a
duffel bag because somebody said he went to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I was going to find her. I had to find her.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
And I kept screaming, She's not his child, he's not
her father, and he just wanted her. I never thought
it would be the Knight fair it one.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
There's this case I keep returning to. In nineteen sixty two,
a man kidnapped a four year old from a bowling
alley in Hateful Georgia. He didn't make it very far
before the police got him. Authorities all agreed the man
needed psychiatric hile, so they hospitalized him, but he didn't
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get any help. Instead, he escaped from the hospital, stole
a car, and bought a gun. Now he is on
the run. Eventually he ended up in Making Georgia, and
this man, who was just twenty years old, ropped a
bank out of six grand. He said he needed the
cash to appeal his kidnapping conviction, so he went to
prison for the bank robbery and then after it was
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released on parole. He went ahead and tried to kidnap
a woman in Atlanta by forcing himself into her car,
but the man was caught. By now, he was thirty
years old. Here's FBI agent Scott lob So.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
He knew he was going to go back to prison
for that because they knew who it was.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And he goes on to run again towards Charlotte, North Carolina,
where he meets a woman in dire need of help.
She lost her children and was desperate to get them back.
You're probably wondering why I'm telling you about this fugitive.
It's not just a scary story or one of the
horrible things I come across in my work with NamUs.
By now, this man was a known fugitive, and you
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know him too.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Franklin Floyd was caught, his probation clearly violated.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And the mother, desperate to get her kids back from
social services, was of course Sandy. This was the faithful
moment when Floyd kidnapped her daughter, Susie Sabakas. It took
law enforcement several years to put the pieces together. By then,
Floyd had already committed more crimes, each worse than the last,
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and it didn't help police that Floyd used more aliases
than I think anyone's been able to count. Once Agent
Scott lob learned about Floyd, he started asking himself who
was the girl in the room with Floyd?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Wanted to answer was there ever a missing child report
for this girl? And the FBI was never able to
locate one because it didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
While Steve's story was hidden for so long, his sister
SUSY's would end up well documenting. In fact, it was
her kidnapping that first made me aware of this family.
A book had been written about her ordeal. A couple
of decades later, Susie was a subject of a Netflix documentary.
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Susie employed assumed so many aliases over the years. By
the time she was twenty, no one knew who she was,
no one except the man who stole her. Before I
tell you how her twisted story came to light, let's
go back to her high school years, when Susie went
by the name of Sharon Marshall. Sharon was an ambitious
teenager who dreamt of going to college. She had friends,
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but what I've learned is she didn't really confide in anyone.
She kept secrets to herself, including a big one. Floyd
didn't just kidnap Susie. He was now passing her office
his real daughter. My name is Todd Matthews. And this
is hello John Doe. A sleuth, a family, and a
serial killer. The story of a family torn apart by
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a tragedy quest to bring them back together. Chapter five,
The Fugitives. After Floyd left Sandy and took off with
her six year old daughter, he was almost gone without
a trace.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
He'd been all over the country with her, started in Georgia, Florida,
eventually ending up in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
This is former FBI agent Scott lob He had ended
up dedicating several years of his life to this case.
As he began putting the pieces together, he realized that
Floyd criss crossed the country and started passing off his
captive as his daughter.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
We didn't know at the time. The FBI didn't that
with any evidence that Franklin Floyd had kidnapped her. Now
had we had that, certainly there's a kidnapping investigation to
be had there because he drug her all over the country.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
In other words, the FBI would have been on the
case had they known Floyd was crossing state lines. But
remember there wasn't even a missing person's report because when
Sandy tried to report Susia's missing, authorities turned her away
because Andy was married to Floyd. Finally, in the mid eighties,
when Susie was a teenager, they stopped out side of Atlanta, Georgia,
Floyd and Rose Susie in high school. Except he didn't
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use her real name. He told the schooler name was
Sharon Marshall. That's the name I'm going to use for
part of this episode. That's how our friends and you
were back then. Sharon began as a sophomore at Forest
Park High School.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Typical eighties, big hair. It was really a good time.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
The way me or Murdock describes it, it was kind of
an all American high school, kind of like Ferris Bueller's
Day Offer something. She was in Sharon's grade Classic in
nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I was a cheerleader.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yes, we had the jocks, the cheerleaders, but everybody got along.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It wasn't bullying and.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Any of that stuff, So it wasn't like it is today,
totally different.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Every Friday or Saturday nights to play the schools that
surrounded our area, so that was a big thing.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Everybody loved.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
At football games, their mascot was the Panthers. It wasn't
exactly a small town. It was right outside Atlanta, but
it was small enough that you noticed when there was
someone new.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It was kind of weird coming into the middle of
the semester.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I guess this is Sherry Bailey, also class of eighty six.
She was in the gifted program.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I mean, I was gifted, but I was also one
of those that didn't really care.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
In the middle of sophomore year, she noticed a new
student in her gifted English class, Sharon.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
Obviously, her father, her whatever, moved her around a lot,
but she ended up staying I think.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Probably the longest. At first part.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
She was there middle of sophomore year, junior year, and
then senior year.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Sherry noticed a minute she stepped into English class. Everyone
then Sharon was beautiful, blue eyes, long blonde hair that
was blown out, kind of like Farah faucet.
Speaker 8 (07:00):
Of the boys jaws dropped to the floor, and you know
they were They thought that they'd been gifted an angel
from heaven.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She was also exceptionally smart. You had to be to
be in those gifted classes.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
We're Generation X, so we were the ones that you know,
we were.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
The people who basically didn't care.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You know, we still don't. She did the She cared
a lot about her education.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Not just that, but Sharon went out of her way
to be kind.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
She always tried to make other people feel like they
were worthy, specifically people who were not popular, not not smart,
not the normal. She was always rooting for the underdog.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
There was a sweetness of Matterr that Sherry recognized instantly,
the two bonding right away. They went from classmates to
real friends when Sharon started dating Jason. He was Surry's
friend and he was on the football team. Cherry would
pick up both Jason and Sharon from their houses on
the way to school. Sharon lived less than a mile
away from Sherry in a plain, little ranch house.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
I would go to pick her up, and Jason would
have to lay down on the back floorboard of my
car because her dad would date Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So this big old football player would have to squeeze
his ass into the back of sherry seventy eight Mustang.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
So we would pull up and her dad would stand
on the front porch and wait for her to get
into the car and wait for us to leave.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
He always stayed on the porch, so we didn't really
come close to him, but we knew he was creepy.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Sneaking around was a little strange to Sherry, But what
was really strange was that she wasn't allowed inside Sharon's house.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
Her dad would not let us in, and my other
friends who were friends with her were never let inside either.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Sherry said she just seemed embarrassed by Floyd's rules, the
way most teens would be by their parents. But Sherry said,
what made the relationship unusual was how Sharon went out
of her way to do things for her father.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
You know, she had told us that her mom died
of cancer and that she had to take care of
him and do all the things that mom did, you know,
cook for him and clean and do all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So that was why she had to go straight home
after school, which.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Was a weird way to put it, but that was
the way she put it to us.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Sherry didn't know what went on in that ranch house
behind closed doors. No one really did. I don't know
if Sharon, your mom is alive and well and hoping
she'd come home, but even her peers were skeptical of
the story, Sharon told, here's her classmate, me and Murdock again.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
She told one.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Friend that her mom died of cancer, and then told
another friend she died in a car wreck over a bridge.
And then one friend says, well, wait a minute, you
said she died of cancer. She said, well, she had
cancer when she's in the car wreck. So I'm sure
she was just trying to shut them up because she
couldn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Franklin Floyd was a lifelong criminal, and like most he
had patterns. He would kidnap children and he would assault
them when he is barely an adult. Floyd was convicted
of molesting a four year old girl. What kind of
nineteen year old attacks a child in the woods? Floyd did,
and after he kidnapped Sharon, he studied sexually abusing her too,
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from a very young age. This wouldn't come out until
many years later, but on a level, Sherry already knew
what her friend had been going through.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
A Few of the friends that she did make were
people who were also also were abused, But I think
that she probably knew people just generally kind of recognized
people who had been through similar things.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Sharon never told Sherry what was going on at home,
and vice versa. But neither of them had good childhoods
Mine wasn't normal.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I would like to say it was, but it wasn't.
I had stepfather who was sexually abusive me. I just
think that like finds like whether they know why or not,
your heart just think your car just knows.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Based on what Sandy tell me about Floyd's behavior, I
can say he probably controls Sharon with fear. If he
threatened Sandy against leaving, he likely did the same as
Sharon made her stay quiet, not just about the many
names and secrets, but about the abuse. Sharon was trapped
and we had no idea how close we were to
a monster. Though the whole time, Sherry seemed to know
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all was not well with her friend back in high school,
but Mia didn't really get it until her ordeal was
made public. Back then, Mia didn't know it was a
criminal or that her friend needed help.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
People didn't talk about what happened in people's houses, so
nobody would have thought anything different. So after the story
came out, it was very eye opening for all of
us because none of us would have ever thought she.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Lived the life she lived.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
What's amazing, sureI said, is how Sharon maintained such composure.
She got great grades, participated in ROTC, had serious romantic relationships.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
She had a spirit that nobody could break. He knew
he was never able to break her. He tried really hard.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Back then they buckled down and hit the books. Surey said,
Sharon had a seriousness about her a drive.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I don't know that she watched TV.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
I don't remember talking about that at all, because of
course that was of boat days and Fantasy Island and.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
All that good stuff.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
So I think she spent most of her time studying
because that was her escape.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Maybe all that studying would even be her way out,
a way to escape Floyd. Sharry remembered that day in
Gifted class when she showed up ecstatic.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
She had a full ride to Georgia Tech. That was
all she ever wanted. She was beside herself. I mean,
that was what she'd been wanting all along.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
She was absolutely tickled. This was her dream school that
would jump start her aerospace career. Around that time and
senior year, everyone geared up for graduation, excited for what
would come next. But then Sharon's life changed again. She
was with a new boyfriend, a guy named Curtis.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
I was hopelessly, helplessly, deeply crazy about it.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Up until this moment, Sharon was focused on her future
in the file. She was going to move to Atlanta
and start Georgia Tech. Then she would begin her career
in aerospace, maybe as an engineer, maybe she'd go into
space herself. For Sharon, the sky was well the limit.
But then something happened in her senior year that slung
her off course. It would jeopardize everything she didn't build,
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and even if she didn't say anything, the secret she'd
been keeping became clear.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
And then it started being obvious that she was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
She started showing people at school.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Noticed our counselor was a male. He asked a female
counselor to talk to Sharing because he didn't feel comfortable,
and so she brought her in the office and she said, Sharing,
you know, if you're pregnant, your scholarship's going to be avoided.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
You can't have it. And Sharing says, I'm not pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Sharon tried to hide it, but couldn't. She knew what
was at stake. This was nineteen eighty six teenage pregnancy,
particularly in the South was an incredible taboo. She lost
her scholarship.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
They took it away from her because she was pregnant.
They couldn't have that, which ridiculous. I mean, through all
everything that she'd been through, not that they knew that,
but I'm pretty sure she could have still gotten an
aeronautics engineering degree and had a baby and taking care
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know, she could have juggled that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
To me, this feels like such a knife twist. Charon
already endured being kidnapped by Floyd, lied on his behalf,
changed her name from Susie to Sharon, moved around, survived
sexual abuse, and the one thing that stood in the
way of her dreams was some old fashioned policy about
teen pregnancy. Some say it was a school's decision. Curtis
as Floyd kept her from college.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
He talked her out of going.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Here's her friend Cherry again.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
People said that she wasn't at graduation. She was at graduation.
We talked to her in the parking lot. She was
in her cap and gown.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I did see her, but she was nine months pregnant
at graduation. That would not let her walk.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Charon and made salutatorian. Basically, that's the runner up to
the valedictorian. In other words, she was a damn good student.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
She looked so pregnant in that white gown. I don't
even were talked about.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
I just remember, you know, standing out of the parking lot,
talking about what was going to happen after her graduation,
about the parties or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But when Sherry went out that night, she didn't see
Sharon like she had hoped. She didn't see her that
summer either. Sharon just dropped off the map.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
It was that night, you know. It was after that night,
which is never saw each o threed. She just disappeared.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's not like there were social media or even cell phones.
With Sharon out of her house, there wasn't a landline
to call. Sherry kind of assumed Sharon and going somewhere
to have the baby, but wasn't sure what happened beyond that.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
I mean, I guess we must have thought that he
took her somewhere to like a girls, you know, away
where teenage girls or something.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I don't know, but she.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Never forgot about Sharon. Imagine what she'd be doing after
college and into middle age.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
She'd probably be living in Texas working for NASA. I
have a couple of sweet little kids.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
When Cherry thinks about Sharon, she can still picture her
in the hallways at Forest Park High School.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Probably just propped up against lockers, talking and just being
the girls, laughing and being happy. When we finally get
out of side of her dad. She had the you know,
the blown out curl, super blonde, and she weared.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
She would wear Jason's letterman jacket, which.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Would swallow her old because she was all of maybe
five foot two.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Sherry wouldn't be the only person to lose track of
Sharon Marshall. She's right. Right after graduation, Sharon employed packed
up and moved across country, just as Floyd had done
for decades. It was by design. It's why he changed
her name from Susie to Sharon. He didn't want her
to ever be found. So let me tell you what
actually happened. After graduation, Sharon, her boyfriend Curtis, and her
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father left Georgia.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
I pretty much sold everything I had so we could
have money to move out to Arizona.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Curtis wasn't exactly thrilled about the situation. He hated Floyd,
said he was a rattic. He could yell at the
top of his lungs in public.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Sharon or Suzanne would giggle whenever he did that, like
it was nothing, and I'm like sitting there looking at
him like freaking morn. I was nice to him because
of her, and there were a few times where I
tried to talk her into her and I'd taken off
somewhere else, but she didn't want to leave her dad.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That's why Floyd followed him to Arizona. She didn't want
to leave him behind. Previously, Floyd had done odd jobs
for money, but now I let a teenager beat the breadwinner.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
At the time, waterbeds were still kind of popular, so
I do some waterbed installing, so I would work. Those
two would be at home at the apartment. It's a
single level apartment, but I know that Diphit used to
sleep on the couch most of the time. I'm always
complaining about his back and excuse my friends sometimes, but
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I really hate that guy.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
One day, Curtis came home to a horrible surprise. There
were two strangers standing in his apartment.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
She pulled me in the bedroom and told me the
child not yours. I'm giving it up for adoption. And
I'm like flabbergasted, and of course I get mad, I
get pissed. I started screaming because I felt very betrayed.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Curtis kicked the two out, he was so pissed off.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
They ended up moving to staying in a motel or
something in town. She was a waitress somewhere last I heard,
and I just I didn't talk to him again.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
At the time. Curtis Hitt now the full extent of
Floyd's abuse, Mia said she can imagine how scared Sharon
must have been.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
People want to judge and say, why didn't she do
this and that?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
But how can you stand up to a man when
you're that tiny and you're scared of death of him?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
So I'm sure she couldn't stand up. Jim sawen to
stay with Curtis.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The baby, born in nineteen eighty six, was put up
for adoption in Arizona, and not long after Floyd and
Sharon took off again. Floyd had a habit of ducking
and dodging questions. He'd been doing this since the nineteen sixties.
It's what allowed him to continue living as a fugitive.
You could say Stateton federal agencies are also to blame.
Considering how many cracks in the system that Susie fell through.
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Scott lob, the FBI investigator, said it was hard to
pinpoint exactly where they went and why he.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Wouldn't talk about it. He wouldn't talk to anybody about it.
If he did, he he lied and just or just
outright was defiant, said, I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
This was the time before we had cell phones in
our back pockets, bouncing across towers that tracked our every move.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
They didn't have the technology back then, you know, the
instant access to the fingerprint database when he fingerprints somebody.
But when he thought somebody was getting too close, if
something didn't seem right to him, one of the neighbors
gave him a sideways glance or started asking too many questions,
he'd pick up and off they go to the next town.
So he just continually moved when he felt the walls
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were closing in.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Which led them to Florida. Two years after she graduated,
Sharon was pregnant again. This time, it wasn't entirely clear
who the baby's father was, but Floyd apparently thought it
was his. The boy was born on April twenty first,
nineteen eighty eight. Sharon called him Michael Hughes Here's her
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friend Sherry.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Michael was the only one he let her key, and
he knew how much she loved him.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
While in Florida, they moved into the Golden Lantern trailer Park,
and instead of doing anything related to aerospace or Georgia Tay,
Sharon became a dancer at a strip club. It was
called Mann's Venus, and there was a brunette dancer who
apparently took a liking to Sharon. The two became fast friends.
Her name was Cheryl and comesso. Cheryl was a natural performer.
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She always sang and danced, and she was even in
the nineteen eighty seven Miss Brandon beauty pageant, named for
the town where she lived with her family. Her big
dream was to be a playboy, and when Floyd tells
Cheryl he could help her become a centerfold, she believed him.
But in April nineteen eighty nine, Cheryl, who was eighteen
at the time, left home to spend the night with friends.
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That was the last time anyone saw her. She had
ended up being one of the many Jane does in
this story. After Cheryl went missing, Sharon and Floyd left
town again. By this point, they had moved so much
they were always strangers to their neighbors. But this time
Floyd settled on a new tactic. He married Sharon. He
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wasn't just abut her behind closed doors. Now, who's fixing
to pass her off as his wife in public? In
nineteen eighty nine, they got married in New Orleans. She
was just nineteen years old and he was forty six.
He used the name Clarence Marcus Hughes. Susie Sevegas, who
had become Sharon Marshall, now took on another alias, Tanya
don Hughes. Later he'd tell government investigators that it was
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a marriage of convenience so that Michael could have a father,
and this marriage would help him fly under the radar.
Authorities were looking for a man and his daughter, not
a wife.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
They had dialed in where Franklin Floyd had taken her.
He'd been all over the country with her, started in
Georgia to Florida, eventually ending up in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Tanya aka Sharon aka Susie worked as a dancer at
an Oklahoma City strip club. After years on the run,
Floyd was caught in Oklahoma City on a complaint of
assaulting another woman.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
He was a handyman at an apartment complex and got
caught in some girl's apartment.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But Floyd, being slippery, wouldn't stay in custod deeper loan.
He had continued dugging and dodging until authorities finally caught
up with Floyd and locked him up permanently. This time
the charge was murder. After high school graduation, Mia and
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Surry went on with their lives. Mia started organizing class reunions,
but her old classmate Sharon never once showed up. Then
in nineteen ninety one, she got the news our.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Five year reunions.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Someone had said that she had passed away and we
didn't know all the details.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Sharon Marshall. She was found the victim of a hit
and run accident in Oklahoma City and died five days
later in a hospital.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Mia remembers when Curtis found out, he got in.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
His car and drove four hours. I think he said
to her grave.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Site, and then I found out all was shit about Franklin.
It was just stuff starting adding over my head, and
so God, I wish I would have figured that out
for a long time ago. She was approbably had a
better lady, and you know, it really messed with me
for a few years. I felt very guilty.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
This is what the police report said. In April nineteen ninety,
a woman left her motel room in Oklahoma City to
go to a convenience store to buy milk. She was
wearing headphones as she walked along the center of an
interstate road. She was struck by a car. Police identified
her as Tanya Hughes, but when they went looking for
a birth certificate, they found she used the name of
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an infant born in nineteen sixty seven who died in pneumonia.
So who was she? As investigators started to piece this
story together, they realized they hit and run victim was
Sharon Marshall. I know what you're thinking. There are so
many unanswered questions, including.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
A big one.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Who was behind the wheel of the hit and run?
Next time on Hello John Doe.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
The actual folders for the case, I would say, would
stack about six feet high. It's one of the most
unique cases I was ever involved with.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Sometimes I screamed, sometimes I cried.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It was like reading a horror story that you're a
part of, but not a part of.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
I'm about to put my hand up to cut him off,
and that's when he leaned back, closed his eyes, lifted
his head a little bit, and I realized at that
point he was recalling facts.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Hello John Doe is an original productions by Revelations Entertainment
in association with First and Last Productions from Revelations. Our
executive producers are Morgan Freeman and James Younger from First
to Last. Lindsay Moreno is the executive producer. Our producing
partner is nee On Home Media. It was written and
produced by Kate Michigan. Our editor is Katherine Saint Louis.
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She is also ni On Home Media's executive editor. Our
executive producer is Sharah Morrison. Our development producer is Ian Lindsay.
Our associate producer is Rufaro Faith Maserua. Sound design and
mixing by Scott some Revell theme and original music composed
by Jesse Pearlstein. Additional music came from Epidemic Sound and
Blue Dot Sessions. Frendall Faulton is our fact checker. Our
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production manager is Samantha Allison from My Heart Media. Dylan
Fagan is our executive producer. Special thanks to Adelia Ruben
at Nie On Hume and Carrie Lieberman and Will Peerson
at iHeartMedia. I'm Todd Matthews. You can learn more about
name us at NamUs dot co. The number for the
National Center for Missing Exploited Children's Call Center is one
eight hundred the loss that's one eight hundred eight four
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three five six seven eight. The National Sexual Assault Popline
from the Rate Abuse and Incest National Network is one
eight hundred sixty five six four six seven three. Okay, guys,
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