April 19, 2022 • 8 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's from the pits of Hell. I know, I know,
I was gonna say. My grandmother would say all the time.
That's the line from the pits of Hell. Man, it's
from the pits. Turn. Everything's a term Turn Somebody. Welcome
(00:32):
to Hello Somebody, a production of The Black Effect Podcast
Network and I Heart Media. Where we rage against the machine,
where we raise our voices against injustice and stand up
for justice. Where we embrace hope and joy with an
optimism for a bright or more just future. Each week
(00:53):
I'll be dropping knowledge, whether it's a solo episode from
me or a hearty discussion with a Steam guest doing
great things in spaces and places of politics, entertainment, social justice,
and beyond. We get real, baby, I mean really real.
We get honest, We get up close and personal for you, yes, you,
(01:17):
because everybody is somebody. Before we begin, I want to
give a special shout out to my team, Thank you, Sam, Tiffany,
Sam and the team over at Good Jujuice Studios, Erica England,
Pepper Chambers, the Hot One, and my social media team.
(01:41):
If I can't be a driver in my own life,
I just don't want to play that game. I'm just
not that type of victim. But if I can do
anything to change what that position may be for myself
and for my family, then I'm all in it. And
so an age, that's what agency is. And and we
were talking about Big Mama and in our and our ancestors.
I'm say this for because I'd like to talk to
(02:01):
our people, because this is the one thing when black
folks become doctors and all this stuff like, because I
was like, you gotta call me documents and one of
these these sisters in the Middle West, you had elders
call you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well one of these elders
right correct, They stopped me and she said, baby, that's
not your degree, that's our degree. So we're gonna call
you that because you earned it. That belongs to us,
because you belonged to us in your hours. And I
(02:23):
remember when I was doing my dissertation and it turned
into a book that the one and only Elaine Brown
told me to write, call Beyond Great and Resilience. And
what happened was I got into a big fight with
the university. This is gonna wrap up my agency thing,
I promised, and they said, well, you gotta right to
the academy. You gotta right, I said, I don't give
it them about the academy. I don't care about these people.
(02:44):
These people don't care about me. I didn't even really
want to do this degree. I was told by an elder. Dr.
Howard Fuller actually is the person who told me to
go ahead and do my my doctorate. And we came
to a resolution. And basically, every time I got a
chapter approved, I took it to a group of black
moms and whatever they didn't understand or whatever it didn't
make sense, we either changed it or we took it out.
Because what's the point of this research of us researching
(03:07):
ourselves if the people that I care about can't read
it and can't connect to it. I don't need to
build a new theory and put critical on the end
of it and and build things that are are unattainable.
My job is to take things that have been over
complicated and make it simple for my people and give
them access to it. And there's always this notion that
when black people become professionals, we gotta be broke. And
(03:28):
I don't know what that is. That's a lot from
from Satan himself, that's from the pits of hell. I
don't I know. I was gonna say. My grandmother would
say all the time, that's the line from the pits
of Hell, man, it's from the pits. It's it's from
that bottom round of that ladder. That right now, we
gotta gotta debunk that. So once I got in and
I was good, you know, things just started to grow.
And I remember watching Jerry McGuire, Senator Turner. You've seen
(03:50):
Jerry McGuire, right, I love it too, one of my
favorite movies. So remember this partly. Remember Tom Cruise has
the number one draft pick and his daddy erasist, so
he loses them. And then Tom Cruise is like the
press he drunk, but he got this fly b neck on, right,
he got this custom blazer on. He's about to catch
a plane back to his house that's on a beach
(04:11):
where his partner is Rene Zellweger, and they work together
and end up being together. And this is the worst
day of his life, Senator Turner. So in my mind,
the worst day of this white man's life, it's better
than the best day I could have ever imagined. But
that cat might as well have been Bruce Wayne Batman
because I didn't see sports agents that looked like me
(04:34):
at that time, So I didn't even pursue it. I
would have loved to have had that. So I want
to get in front of as many of us and
as many of little means as I can, just as
an option, just as something that you can see, that
you know, just so you know it's real, just so
you know you can do it. So when somebody, when
a little girl sees Senator Nina Turner and they're like,
wait a second, hold on, Like this woman gets to
(04:55):
speak her mind, be her She wear flyglasses every time,
she gets to tell these white folks about themselves or whatnot.
And she gets to live in between d C and
in Cleveland and do it. And she gets to be
on planes. You know how bad The way I got
to Oakland was on a Greyhound. You know I want
to take to get to Oakland. It takes five plus dates. Okay.
So so again, right, it's all about perspective, and I
(05:17):
always had that motivation. So in education it would just
a gateway for me that has allowed me to do
a lot of things. And my hard work has been
able to afford a lot of things for a lot
of people in my community and not just for me.
And so when I do it, when I do research,
I command money that's gonna pay the kids or the
families of the end uses of education is what I
(05:38):
called them. I served the end uses of education and
that's in disordered that students, their parents, and then their community,
and then you got teachers and administrative But it's very
important that you have a ranking system because you will
get lost in some of this. And guess what, Senator
Turner also works for the Democratic Party. I was the
vice chair of the Black Young DEM's the California for
(05:59):
a few years. I co founded Black Young DEM's Oakland
and back Black Young DEM's San Francisco. And what turned
me off to the party. I'm still technically a Democrat,
but what turned me off is every time, even as VP,
when I would try to bring up black issues was
always a problem. But if he wanted to talk about technology,
if you wanted to talk about tech bros, their issues
(06:20):
always superseded. And I always was like, Okay, we'll do yours,
but when is our turn? When's it our turn? When's
it our turn? And our turn would never come around
and I had to leave a post because I'm like
I gotta go do something that's really gonna help black people.
Very everything wanting somebody makes a turn. I love somebody,
(06:48):
turning somebody to turn, Yeah, changes, coming to pain is nothing.
Trying to shoot for the stars. If you're gonna ain't
for something, embrace the love for your brother and sister.
You need these the mission brush. We need to puzzle this.
Pictures painted up, frame it up for the world to see.
(07:11):
Hain't to hatred up. Enough is enough, It's enough, making
changes enough in turn of a voice of the truth
to wise worlds, inspire the youth to keep the eyes
on the roof. It's the end. Never give up, keep
conquering goals to the eye. Intelligence, silver, wisdom is gold.
Back to the end. Now is your time. Stay firm,
don't fold to the a or you need is the
three bones. That's what Grannie said. Now I'm gonna make
(07:33):
sure these words from Grannie spread for all the hair
to give it your air. She can take him to
the promised Land. I swear world pieces what they fear.
Queen's the Cleveland, Ohio. We're here famous famous. Turning somebody.
You don't need to turn of somebody to turn out
(08:00):
to tell us somebody he turned with us four times.
A great oral points has choose, and Troling Sinster said,
brothers would have a great more prices go on her hand.
He read, turns, read new truth. We will not read
new truth, no true neu
That's from the pits of Hell. I know, I know,
I was gonna say. My grandmother would say all the time.
That's the line from the pits of Hell. Man, it's
from the pits. Turn. Everything's a term Turn Somebody. Welcome
(00:32):
to Hello Somebody, a production of The Black Effect Podcast
Network and I Heart Media. Where we rage against the machine,
where we raise our voices against injustice and stand up
for justice. Where we embrace hope and joy with an
optimism for a bright or more just future. Each week
(00:53):
I'll be dropping knowledge, whether it's a solo episode from
me or a hearty discussion with a Steam guest doing
great things in spaces and places of politics, entertainment, social justice,
and beyond. We get real, baby, I mean really real.
We get honest, We get up close and personal for you, yes, you,
(01:17):
because everybody is somebody. Before we begin, I want to
give a special shout out to my team, Thank you, Sam, Tiffany,
Sam and the team over at Good Jujuice Studios, Erica England,
Pepper Chambers, the Hot One, and my social media team.
(01:41):
If I can't be a driver in my own life,
I just don't want to play that game. I'm just
not that type of victim. But if I can do
anything to change what that position may be for myself
and for my family, then I'm all in it. And
so an age, that's what agency is. And and we
were talking about Big Mama and in our and our ancestors.
I'm say this for because I'd like to talk to
(02:01):
our people, because this is the one thing when black
folks become doctors and all this stuff like, because I
was like, you gotta call me documents and one of
these these sisters in the Middle West, you had elders
call you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well one of these elders
right correct, They stopped me and she said, baby, that's
not your degree, that's our degree. So we're gonna call
you that because you earned it. That belongs to us,
because you belonged to us in your hours. And I
(02:23):
remember when I was doing my dissertation and it turned
into a book that the one and only Elaine Brown
told me to write, call Beyond Great and Resilience. And
what happened was I got into a big fight with
the university. This is gonna wrap up my agency thing,
I promised, and they said, well, you gotta right to
the academy. You gotta right, I said, I don't give
it them about the academy. I don't care about these people.
(02:44):
These people don't care about me. I didn't even really
want to do this degree. I was told by an elder. Dr.
Howard Fuller actually is the person who told me to
go ahead and do my my doctorate. And we came
to a resolution. And basically, every time I got a
chapter approved, I took it to a group of black
moms and whatever they didn't understand or whatever it didn't
make sense, we either changed it or we took it out.
Because what's the point of this research of us researching
(03:07):
ourselves if the people that I care about can't read
it and can't connect to it. I don't need to
build a new theory and put critical on the end
of it and and build things that are are unattainable.
My job is to take things that have been over
complicated and make it simple for my people and give
them access to it. And there's always this notion that
when black people become professionals, we gotta be broke. And
(03:28):
I don't know what that is. That's a lot from
from Satan himself, that's from the pits of hell. I
don't I know. I was gonna say. My grandmother would
say all the time, that's the line from the pits
of Hell, man, it's from the pits. It's it's from
that bottom round of that ladder. That right now, we
gotta gotta debunk that. So once I got in and
I was good, you know, things just started to grow.
And I remember watching Jerry McGuire, Senator Turner. You've seen
(03:50):
Jerry McGuire, right, I love it too, one of my
favorite movies. So remember this partly. Remember Tom Cruise has
the number one draft pick and his daddy erasist, so
he loses them. And then Tom Cruise is like the
press he drunk, but he got this fly b neck on, right,
he got this custom blazer on. He's about to catch
a plane back to his house that's on a beach
(04:11):
where his partner is Rene Zellweger, and they work together
and end up being together. And this is the worst
day of his life, Senator Turner. So in my mind,
the worst day of this white man's life, it's better
than the best day I could have ever imagined. But
that cat might as well have been Bruce Wayne Batman
because I didn't see sports agents that looked like me
(04:34):
at that time, So I didn't even pursue it. I
would have loved to have had that. So I want
to get in front of as many of us and
as many of little means as I can, just as
an option, just as something that you can see, that
you know, just so you know it's real, just so
you know you can do it. So when somebody, when
a little girl sees Senator Nina Turner and they're like,
wait a second, hold on, Like this woman gets to
(04:55):
speak her mind, be her She wear flyglasses every time,
she gets to tell these white folks about themselves or whatnot.
And she gets to live in between d C and
in Cleveland and do it. And she gets to be
on planes. You know how bad The way I got
to Oakland was on a Greyhound. You know I want
to take to get to Oakland. It takes five plus dates. Okay.
So so again, right, it's all about perspective, and I
(05:17):
always had that motivation. So in education it would just
a gateway for me that has allowed me to do
a lot of things. And my hard work has been
able to afford a lot of things for a lot
of people in my community and not just for me.
And so when I do it, when I do research,
I command money that's gonna pay the kids or the
families of the end uses of education is what I
(05:38):
called them. I served the end uses of education and
that's in disordered that students, their parents, and then their community,
and then you got teachers and administrative But it's very
important that you have a ranking system because you will
get lost in some of this. And guess what, Senator
Turner also works for the Democratic Party. I was the
vice chair of the Black Young DEM's the California for
(05:59):
a few years. I co founded Black Young DEM's Oakland
and back Black Young DEM's San Francisco. And what turned
me off to the party. I'm still technically a Democrat,
but what turned me off is every time, even as VP,
when I would try to bring up black issues was
always a problem. But if he wanted to talk about technology,
if you wanted to talk about tech bros, their issues
(06:20):
always superseded. And I always was like, Okay, we'll do yours,
but when is our turn? When's it our turn? When's
it our turn? And our turn would never come around
and I had to leave a post because I'm like
I gotta go do something that's really gonna help black people.
Very everything wanting somebody makes a turn. I love somebody,
(06:48):
turning somebody to turn, Yeah, changes, coming to pain is nothing.
Trying to shoot for the stars. If you're gonna ain't
for something, embrace the love for your brother and sister.
You need these the mission brush. We need to puzzle this.
Pictures painted up, frame it up for the world to see.
(07:11):
Hain't to hatred up. Enough is enough, It's enough, making
changes enough in turn of a voice of the truth
to wise worlds, inspire the youth to keep the eyes
on the roof. It's the end. Never give up, keep
conquering goals to the eye. Intelligence, silver, wisdom is gold.
Back to the end. Now is your time. Stay firm,
don't fold to the a or you need is the
three bones. That's what Grannie said. Now I'm gonna make
(07:33):
sure these words from Grannie spread for all the hair
to give it your air. She can take him to
the promised Land. I swear world pieces what they fear.
Queen's the Cleveland, Ohio. We're here famous famous. Turning somebody.
You don't need to turn of somebody to turn out
(08:00):
to tell us somebody he turned with us four times.
A great oral points has choose, and Troling Sinster said,
brothers would have a great more prices go on her hand.
He read, turns, read new truth. We will not read
new truth, no true neu
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