January 8, 2024 • 59 mins
You've been asking, and we've been listening!To celebrate our one year anniversary of "Hey Dude the 90s Called"...we wanted to dive deep into the show that linked us for life.This time, we chat with Mr. Ernst himself- actor David Brisbin AND Emmy Winning Writer and Producer Graham Yost. They spill LOTS of beans from the ranch- and yes, the grownups on the set totally knew about the behind-the-scenes canoodling.Cheers to another year of 90s nostalgia dudes!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Dude, the Nineties Called with Christine Taylor and David Lasher.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey everybody, welcome back to Hey Do the Nineties Called podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I hope you had a great holiday. I'm David.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi David. Happy New Year, everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Happy and healthy new year, and welcome back.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I'm Christine and we are in a new year of
twenty twenty four, a new year of our podcast with
a really fun way to launch twenty twenty four for us,
I mean definitely for us as as these are more
Hey Dude, co workers.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I know, but I just I want our listeners to
understand the magnitude of these two guests, Graham Yos and
David Brisbane. Like I know, there were a lot of
Nickelodeon shows, but the talent that we were surrounded by,
specifically Graham and David. I mean, David Brisbane is probably
(00:59):
still the great gatest comedic actor I've ever worked with,
and Graham could be the most accomplished writer that we've
ever worked with.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I mean, yeah, we we always talk about this that
we were all sort of at the beginning. I mean,
Graham and David had already worked right in Hollywood more
than we had, but still it was still like this
sort of launching period in our careers. And regardless of
(01:31):
what age we were all at, you know, none of
us knew what the future was going to be. So
we just were enjoying each other and we knew we
just I just remember us all laughing. So particularly Dave
Brisbane and Graham, their friendship. They as like sort of
the adult, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The adults in the room, the adults in the room.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Their.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Relationship, their sense of humor, their sense ability. I feel
like we were so lucky to witness and I know
that they've stayed great friends, but it's been forever since
we have all talked.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It was our reunion, right, it was our.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, well, Graham was with us in Austin, so was Dave.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
This is why David and I co host the podcast
because the things that David forgets, I remember the things
that I forget. The only person who was not there
was Kelly. Kelly was not able to make it, but
we had everyone else. But yeah, this is very special,
(02:40):
and I know Dave does not. He's not a technolo.
He didn't even know. I remember when we talked to
him about this, he didn't even know that you didn't
have to be in person to do a podcast. I
was like, Dave, this is the easiest thing possible. You
don't even have to We don't have to see us
just on a screen.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You have to see us.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh man, I have so much to ask both of
these guys. I'm sure you do too. But should we
welcome them in?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah? I think we have Graham as we're working on Dave.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But yes, oh my god, Raham, yos welcome to our show.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Thank you for coming. David Lasher with a little bit
of gray and the beard, Oh my god. Time anyway, Yeah, dude,
all of us.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
He is working on the zoom link. He is having
some zoom link issues. Okay, Happy New Year. This is
the greatest New Year's gift you could ever give us.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I'm so happy to finally get onto this. Yeah, we
missed you last time. You know. We launched the show
with the Heydude reunion.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Christina and I were in New York together with Kelly
and John and uh, yeah, we're so happy to have
you here.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Man and Lisa.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Lisa joined us remotely remotely, as you know, we needed
an adult to sort of you.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Know, as we always did. At least one writer I
think there isay thing now that you have to have
one writer in these podcasts.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Graham.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
First of all, David and I before we before you
came in, we were just talking about the fact that
this was sort of the beginning of all of our careers.
Like even if everybody had been working a little bit
here and there, this was like a sort of you know,
moment in time. None of us knew really what was happening.
(04:30):
We didn't know what this show was going to be,
We didn't know what we were doing, but we had
so much fun. Where were you at I want to
hear from the beginning, like, what when you got the
phone call to do this?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
How did that all come about for you?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was living in New York and I a dear
friend of mine was playing on the Double Day Publishing
Companies softball team, and I went to watch one of
his games and there was a very cute young woman
there and I started chatting with her and we arranged
to go to a meeting. And then my friend says,
you know, I think she's living with someone. It's like,
(05:06):
said Darene. I hear he said, yeah, yeah, no, we're
getting married next year. That doesn't mean I can't go
to a movie with a guy. So I finally met
her boyfriend and eventual husband, and I was at their
wedding on the Circle Line going around Manhattan, and he
was Michael Comment and he was editing for Nickelodeon. He
was doing some stuff and he said, I think they're
(05:29):
doing something. They might need a writer. And I went
in and it was this silly thing called Turkey TV
where they took old archival free documentary stuff and just
we wrote jokes around that. And so then they had
a little money. Jeff Darby, he had a little and
I was working with Adam Bernstein. If you don't know Adam,
he went on to direct pilots for like Scrubs, and
(05:51):
he wrote We're directed for years on OZ and he
just did four episodes of the first season of Silo.
Great director, but at that point we're all nothing. And
we wrote a pilot together. Darby liked it, but they
weren't going forward. And then hey, you know we're doing
this other show. We're doing this show called Hey dude,
(06:12):
would you be interested in being a writer on that?
And I'd say, yes, is it paid? Would I be
paid to be a writer? Yes, I would be very
interested in that. And I never met Dela Duke at all.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Ever, We never met Dela Duke.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah what Dela Duke was the creator of Hey Dude? Right, Yes,
never met her. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
To me to this day, to this day, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
By the way, I just recently exchanged emails with Brown
Brown Johnson, who was our Nickelodeon guru at the time
with Darby and everyone, and she she's retired, living out
on the North Shore up by Shelter Island in Long
Island and doing great. Her daughter, do you remember her
(06:57):
little daughter who would visit the set. Yeah, thirty eight
years old, living in parist living a good life, making
music and all sorts of podcasts stuff. But anyway, so
I got pulled into that. That was it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, let me just explain to our listeners that on
the Hey Dude set, we were surrounded by some spectacular talent,
including our two guests today Graham and David Brisbane. And
we were a bunch of young kids, right, you didn't
really understand what it was, but you guys taught us
so much about.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well we didn't know what we were doing either, right, Yeah,
we were young too. We were just older. I mean
it was like I'd say to people that working on
Hay Dude was like writers boot camp, you know, it
was sort of we could do all the classics. Oh,
the two characters that the boy and girl who like
each other but won't admit they like each other. They
(07:51):
get handcuffed together and they lose the key. Right, Yeah,
that was a good one. The ranch owner gets hit
on the head, gets amnesia, thinks he's a teen major. Again,
we can do that one. We can all the classics.
And then and there were water Troughs. Yeah, Graham, we
remembered the water troup. Listen. I got to ask you this.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You were a slapstick comedy writer and you loved you know,
the stories were so well structured, but you loved.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
The good Pratfall more than anyone I've ever known.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And then I would have thought that you would have
gone on to be a great comedy writer. And you're
one of the greatest drama writers in the world.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Like, how did you pivot from that? I honestly, I
always wanted to do both, and I loved working in
comedy in my first job after Hay Dude. I'll tell
you this first of all, I mean we do what
sixty five episodes of hay dude. I think I'm you know,
I sort of run the last forty episodes of them,
(08:55):
and you know, working with Lisa and and other writers,
and I'm thinking, oh, you know, Nickelodeon's going to make
me this big sweet deal to develop things. Nothing crickets,
So I'm all for all of us. I know everyone crickets.
It's like thank you, sunset so long, a little while,
(09:15):
a little strange.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So then.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I had nothing to do, and Mlammed and I decided
we would write spec half hours and try and get work.
So I went over to Malamed's and she got Lisa Mlammed,
who's one of the great writers on the show. She's
the best. I think she came in through Alan. I
think she came in through Alan Goodman. Alan Goodman was
the original showrunner on the show, head writer. We didn't
(09:39):
even know what a showrunner was, there was no such thing.
He was head writer. And then he passed me the
pen for the second block when we were doing the
next thirty episodes or whatever. But Lisa and I went
to her you know, west Side La apartment and watched
episodes of Roseanne that we got on videotape, you know
that someone had taped off the air and Murphy Brown,
(10:02):
and I decided I'd write a Murphy Brown and a
Roseann and did that and they weren't bad. And I
had a friend who was just becoming an agent at ICM,
and she said, I think I can get you work
with this. But this is February. There's no one's staffing
until May. And she said, I got nothing for you
(10:23):
to do. And I said, okay, well I had this
idea for and this is you know, I had this
idea for a feature about a bus with a bomb
on it and it can't drop all of fifty miles
an hour, I swear to God. I mean although initially
it was like twenty miles an hour, and the original
title was Minimum Speed. And then I realized you never
put the word minimum in a title, and it was
going to be called minimum seat the way it was
(10:45):
twenty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And we're talking about the movie Speed, yeah, which wrote
and Speed.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And that changed my life. So I had had I
wrote that, and then that started to go around the
town and I got my first and I was going
to be a comedy writer. I got a job on
Full House. Yeah. Yeah, I worked on Full House for
a night and a half weeks, and I say that
because I was on a ten week probation. I thought
(11:12):
they were going to fire me, and I quit before
they could fire me. I later talked to the showrunners,
like twenty years later, and I said, we weren't going
to fire you. We didn't fire anyone, but it was
it was a great and miserable experience. And then speed
Soel the two days after I quit Full House, Speedzel
and then everything changed.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Wow, wow, So really you left the show with the
full intention of writing comedy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I had some experience doing that. I liked doing that,
and I did get another job after a Full House.
I got a job on a show called The Powers
that Be, which was created by Marta Kaufman and David Crane,
two shows before they created Friends. Yeah, and then I
and it was produced by Norman Leair. Oh wow, that
(12:05):
Powers that Be group. You know, we've had more reunions
than we did episodes, you know. And Norman would always
show up. And when he died, I realized, oh, there's
thirty or forty other groups in Hollywood who knew him
like that. And he was always available, always supportive, very funny,
just an absolute mench and so just felt blessed to
(12:29):
know that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh a legend, legend.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Absolute legend.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I had lunch with him about a year before the pandemic,
right outside the building that had just been named the
Norman Lair Building of Sony and his daughter was with
him and she said, Dad, do you ever think about
the fact that you're still alive? And he said, every
minute of every day. He was not yet one hundred.
But anyway, So I worked on that show for a
(12:55):
year and a half and you know, worked with great,
great people, great writers and great cast. So I did.
That was but that was my last time in half hour? Yeah,
what made you decide to switch? Did you not? Like
it was just a half hour schedule? And no, you
know that was fine. It was just I mean it
(13:16):
was I quit Full House and luckily Speeds sold. But
then there was years go by and I'm on a
lot and now the writer's room for full Houses on
that lot, and I went to visit them. I just
went into the room and I said, is okay if
I just go And because a number of the writers
(13:37):
were still there, they looked at me like I was
you remember the like Bull Durham or Major League. I
was in the show. I was a feature writer. I
was in the show, and they were like, what's it
like up there? Do people carry your bags?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It was all that kind of shit, and so they
were looking up to me. Twenty years go by and
now I run into feature writers and they're like, what's
it like in television.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
When we were all doing Hey dude?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And I was like, this is what I remember, just
the amount of laughter, the amount I remember you and
Dave becoming and Dave was on here a second ago,
and now we seem to have lost lost the box again.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
But I think we will get him. We will get him.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
But I just remember you two becoming fast friends and
the like I felt like you two had this sort
of brotherhood.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
This is maybe is that real? Like is that or
is that just how I remembered it. I remember that
you got.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
No other, no we we listen, we just fell in love.
And it's what I remember. Two people of a certain age,
you know. I guess we were about thirty at that point.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Dave had I met Dave's wife, Laura Ines, when she
was in a relationship with Reed Bernie and read Bernie
if you know him, great right, great actor. Wanted Tony
for the Humans.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh my god, he's in everything do He's so good everything,
He's so good, great guy.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
We've stayed in touch over the years. But you know,
Reid decided he was going to go around the world
for a year and he wasn't taking Laura, and she
was like, okay, Well, Laura goes off and does a
play with this guy named Dave Brisbane, and then she
got like appendicitis or something, and he took care of
her and that was it. That was it. She fell
out in head over heels. So Dave was a little
(15:50):
bit of that other guy, but I knew of him.
I met him once when he had his head shaved
for a play called Sarcophagus or something. Was sort of
a Chernobyl type thing, if I remember correctly. And so
we just met on the set basically, and Alan, so
the three of us, but Dave and I were there
(16:12):
all the time. But when Alan would come in, we'd
all go see the Tucson Toros play our hotel, right,
they stayed at our hotel. The other teams coming in
would stay at the hotel and and Dave and Allen
and I bonded tightly, and there was you know, there
was one night with maybe alcohol.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Was involved and wait, I thought we had Dave for
a second.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Still there is I thin.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Can you hear me? Can you see me?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
See you?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Okay? All I can hear is Graham talking.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
All right, cool man, you're on with us? Yeah, don't do.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Anything, don't we don't do anything else.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I love Dave. This is such a great gift. Thank
you for joining us. Thank god you're here, Dave. Now
I can stop talking because it was just but I'll
tell you what we were talking about was you and
I becoming dear friends on that show and all the laughter.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yes, going to the diner for a burger?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Do you want to sing the song? Dave?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
You know you can't see me, so I think you
should sing it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
At the Ramata there was a diner downstairs. Do you
remember what it was called? Either of you? Theos? Theos?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
What shows? THEO?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
David?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Do you even remember a diner?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I remember like a place called Little Anthony's, or like
Bobby McGee's.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
There were a couple of places, yes, Bobby McGee's of course. Wait,
all right, theos tell us the song sing us, the song.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
When You're hungry for a burger, haven't got a car?
Just come on down to Theo's. It's not very far
at Theo's were close, and that's what Dave and I
would say, what you got to give to theos is,
it's close.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I remember that wait time out. I thought that we
were the only ones who didn't get a car, But
you guys weren't given cars.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I got a car. I got a car because I
was an important producer writer. I hope, okay, sorry that
I had a tank, an army tank. There were some
security issues, so Dave and I would drive to the
set every day, and then we got it arranged so
(18:41):
that if I wasn't there, Dave could use the car.
So it was we basically shared it, and it was
a It was a grand am. And we decided that
we would leave a cassette, an empty cassette container, up
on the dashboard just to see what.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Happened to it, what it would melt into.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You just turned into this weird, shriveled shape because of
all that Tucson Son because man, man, it could get hot,
and then in the winter it got so cold I
mean it was just such a crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
When we moved out of the Ramada and into whatever
that other place was, like Madison, right, yeah, there seasons
I think. Then we got cars.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, well, well you got a car and you were
only what we were, like eighteen, So we were eighteen.
David and I and Joe and John all had licenses.
We got one car to share amongst the cast, the
kid cast.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We had a car, right, Kelly was fifty already at
the time.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Telly had her BMW.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yep, oh god, that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
We remember seeing her like cruise by us in the
van in the mornings, driving like speeding by us in
the van with we were with Cotton and Kelly would
go zooming past us, getting there just a couple of
seconds ahead of us.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Christine or David, Are either of you in a car
jumping on that road on speedway? Did you ever hit
the jumps?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, Cotton, remember Cotton, Cotton jumps.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Dude, Cotton drove very fast out of those jumps. He
was great because Dave and I would gun it and
we would catch air and it was a weird thing.
Were suddenly dukes of hazard and it was this weird thing.
Where the wheels. Once they're up in the air, they
just start spinning really fast. So when you would hit again,
there'd be a screech, it'd go and off we'd go.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And one time Darby took it too fast and almost
killed himself and Allen and other people like they bottomed
out and scraped and skid it off the road and survived.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So that was all right every day. Listen what I
remember about you guys with Brisbane and Graham. You know,
we were a bunch of kids. You were surrounded by
really young performers. But watching you guys made me respect
the work, right, you guys were working so hard. You
were taking it very seriously, and we didn't know what
(21:17):
Nickelodeon was, right, we were just like, this is going
to be fun and you know, maybe we'll get out
of here by five o'clock. But you guys were working
at your highest level, and I think that had an
effect on all of us. No seriously, right, Christine. I
mean they were doing it, they were taking it for real,
and so we all.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Had to I remember, I feel like you had to
put up with a lot. Dave Brisbane, he was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Always working about, working on bits, always trying to make
it funnier, right, Like, Dave, you were working hard.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
All I remember is that, gosh, it was the best
time ever. It was just fun all the time. You
guys were great, the crew was great, and we just
had a lot of fun. It was not tortuous in
(22:12):
any way as some other shows that I went on
to do. I won't mention them, but yeah, hey, dude,
was just a whole lot of fun. And that's not
exactly you know, hard work that's as fun.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No, But Dave, Dave was really good. I mean, we
would come up with stuff. We would say, what about this?
Can we do a bit where we flip the camera
upside down but it looks like Dave is standing up
and he's hiccupping, and then he opens the bottle of
water and the water just shoots up straight in the
sky and we realize the camera's upside down and he's
(22:59):
hanging upside down to curious hiccups.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And it was just by the way, you were ahead
of your time, because that's what that's like now, Breaking
Bad and Better call Saul style like that is we
were well ahead of our time.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh yeah, we're breaking Bad and Better. The desert Desert,
they were fans.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They were fans.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Clearly you hear that.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But Dave, do you remember, because like listen, I we have.
I'm so grateful that we have those blooper reels that
exist because those are the like for David and I.
I mean, now all the episodes exist and we can
go back and watch them, and I've gone back and
watched like one or two, but the blooper reels when
when we've rewatched those, David like those sparked my memory
(23:49):
like of the like the moments, and and they catch
the tense moments too, Like I remember there was a
an episode where and God bless him, Joe Torres was
not an actor, and there was an episode and I
don't know who wrote it where they.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Gave him a whole speech, a speech about a deer,
and it was.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Like a whole parafol monologue that poor Joe could not
yet and it was like the end of the day
and we're all wearing top hats. I just I don't
know what the episode, but Joe could not get the
speech and the level of anger that you see in
me on this flooper reel. It is because I don't
(24:32):
remember being that upset, but I am so upset that
he can't get the speech, Like I took it seriously.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I was pissed you wanted to get back to the raticid.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I guess, I mean, so much going on there. But Dave,
you also had to work with Cassie the Dog and
Josh at the time. That was a double whammie of challenges.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yes, yeah, Cassie more so than Joh. Uh, I think
I go he was great.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Josh is the best.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, uh, you met Dave.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Do you remember what you would say when you messed
up a line? Yeah, like I now you know, as
an adult, I know what that means, but back then
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What that meant. I said. Dave kept saying it, let's go.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Again, the same thing that I say when I when
I mess a croquet shot.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Dave would also yell. And there was some stuff where
like a bunch of the bar Nunners were running towards
something and something had happened, and Dave's yelling fry hide, yeah,
freedom in German. Right.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I remember Joe yelling that too. Then Joe caught
onto Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Dave, David, David Brisbane was on another intellectual plane, and
you know, it's just so our listeners know it's like
a Shakespearean trained actor working on this show and making
it as good as it can be. And same with Graham.
It was it trickled down from you guys. Well, David
actually done work of quality. I had done really nothing.
(26:16):
I had written Ghosts, written books and done some articles
and stuff, but this was my first real scriptwriting job.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
And I mean you made good.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean we learned fast. And it was also,
as I said, it was boot camp, but it was
like right, we would shoot an episode in three and
a half days, take a day and a half off
to prep for the next one, and then Ghosts we
were on a five day cycle, just non stop. You
write something and then two days later there it's being filmed.
It was.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It was an incredible, incredible learning opportunity. You know, what
are your favorite episodes Graham and David? Like, are there
any that stick out to you that like? Because this
scripts were very well crafted, right, you know, even you
can compare them to shows like Cheers, where there was
just this like will they won't they Brad and Ted
(27:09):
get handcuffed? You know, they were amazing, amazingly crafted scripts.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Any any episode written by Graham or Alan Goodman or
Lisa Muhammad. Not that the others weren't great, but those
are the ones that I remember. Yeah, you could sink
your teeth into into these.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Is it horrible to say that? I don't even remember
there being any other writers, Like.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, there were were, there were, Yeah, there was one
I kept in touch with and then honestly and there
it was that experience also of sitting down with a
writer and giving them notes and realizing, oh, no, I'm
going to have to rewrite this whole thing because every
note I'm tom telling you how to write the line,
and it's just this isn't working well.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And maybe that the difference was because Alan and you
and Lisa were all sort of in the trenches and
knew us so well and knew what to write for,
and so the writers that were not with us, so
to speak, we're just sort of writing abstract ideas, right
that didn't not necessarily work in real time. Like that's
(28:22):
why I guess I don't really have I guess I
remember seeing strange names.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, there was this guy Steve and I've forgotten his
last name, but he actually wrote the set for a
few weeks at one point because Lisa wasn't there, and
I wasn't there, and yeah, but it was I listen.
It was a pivotal time. I just started dating Connie
and we almost broke up between the first two seasons,
and then that's when I got sober and and then
(28:50):
we got married at the end of the whole thing.
I mean it was a huge And Dave, you had
cal Yeah, we got in the show and they basically
hung out in the condo and she yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, I remember babysitting for Cow. I don't know what
season must have been towards the end.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I think that's my first babysitter.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And how is Cow now?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
He's a thirty three year old, big hairy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Man, very very upsetting to me.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Changed, he's changed.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Money.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It was a baby, But you look the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Same, thanks, Dave.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, you and I love you so much.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And Lasher Lasher somehow got handsomer. I mean he was
a very handsome young man. I remember this, Dave, that
you would adjust your hair in the camera lend oh God,
so there's all those outtakes of that coming looking using
that as the mirror, Oh Graham.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
I continue to do that for years, and David, I
was going to say, I think the photo shoot that
we did for this podcast, you were doing it totally
checking yourself out in the reflection.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, I try to shed my vanity. I can't do it.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I want to talk about Fred Keller and Ross Bagwell Jr.
We had two directors. They would switch off episodes and
they could not be more opposite and more extreme in
their personalities. I want to hear your thoughts on those
two guys.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Keller a great guy. His wife was on the set
I think every day, Yes, by his side.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah, she was a delight lost touch with them. I
don't know if they'd move back to the East Coast
or not. But of course he went on to direct
a number of shows twenty four and some shows of
Graham's What.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Really, Graham, you you had Fred directed some of your shows,
He directed some Boomtown's.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I think he directed my one of my favorite Boomtown episodes.
And he also worked on Justified. I mean, yeah, I
worked with him. I can't remember the name of the show.
It wasn't one of yours, Graham, but you know, it
was like, oh my god, here we are, you know,
shooting on location in Los Angeles. Some Detective Show.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And then Ross really was just a natural at at
shooting the show. He was a lot of fun, a
lot of fun to get his goat. He would get
so excited his face had just turned bright red.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right red, right, shoot this bastard, funny air, Let's shoot
this pubby. Yeah, And Fred was wearing an ascot and
really liking himself to like Hitchcock.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Right he was. He was shooting the most important film
of our time. Every week.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Was he really wearing an ascot? Or was he wearing
a bandana with with sea breeze around his neck?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And we just got.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
That's what everyone would remember. They dip bandana, see wrapping
around cool everyone down. The smell of an antiseptic.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I just remember about about Ross is he would reach
for a cigarette, put or did in his mouth, say
action and then light it and uh, you know, pick
up his lighter from the shelf and life is cigarette.
And some of the crew got together and they found
(33:04):
all these lighters that were out of fluid that would
not light, and they would replace his lighter with one
of these empty picks. So he would say action and
he'd pick up the lighter and go click.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Click, and his face would get redter and redder, Yeah,
rhtter and redder, and then he would throw the lighter
and someone would go, oh, there's a lighter, and they'd
walk over and I'd pick it up and they'd switch
it with one that worked, and they'd light their cigarette down,
set it down, and then they would swap it out again.
(33:41):
There was all those stories from both Senatel. Let's talk
about Senatin out. I will say quickly about Fred. Fred
and I have stayed in touch all over the years.
But he he was nicknamed on other shows as the professor.
Well you know what Hitch would always do in a
situation like this, right, it's and he but he loved
(34:03):
he loved directing. He loved solving the problem. He I
remember one of his proudest things would tell me about
on a show being jammed up. They've got no time left,
the sun is going down, and he said, I'll make
it a wonder and he made it work and just
start here, picked up on that and then moved that
person around being bang boom, and that was the job.
And he loved the professionalism of doing the job. And
(34:24):
you know, Ross wasn't that kind of director. He came
out of doing what was the show club dance that
Cinateel did, which was their sort of country dance show
and stuff. And he, uh, you know, he just wasn't
the same kind of director that Fred was. And Ross
and I bump heads a bunch of times, and it
was not always great, but we we worked our way
(34:44):
through it. And but Ross Bagwell Senior, he he taught
me one of the greatest lessons I've ever had in writing.
It's where the remember the mind shaft, right, and which
they built on the side of the I did, Do
you remember it?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The entrance out dug a hole out in the dirt
and you could get the desert. You could cut back
and forth. And I think you were at the bottom, Christine,
I was. I was, And you know, and Kelly Brad
shows up what happened and you tell the whole story,
right of what happened? And Ross Junior did he not? Senior?
Did he smokes a cigar? Right, yes, And he's puffing
(35:28):
on his cigar and he looks at me and he says,
you know, she could have just said I'll tell you later.
I think that works.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Saved some time a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Just boring exposition that we've already known. So I learned
so much on that show. But Sineta and Steve Land
and Stephen Land our producer. Yeah, do you keep in
touch with him?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
How is he? He's semi retired, you know, he's got
He always had stuff going and he was a mover
and a shaker. Yes, he was always figuring this out.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Well, bless your heart, right, bless your heart.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
But he was he was. Yeah, he was a producer.
He did the job.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, I feel like when we talk about losing touch,
like you know, David and I talked about this, and
we all talked about it. When we got together in
Austin for the reunion, it was like the show ended
and none of us had cell phones.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
There was no internet. It was we all had home
phone numbers for people that we took on a piece
of paper or in our little file effacts, and we
did stay in touch. I remember when we all moved
to La Dave, I remember going to your.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
House in Venice a bunch of times like that was
a great little place on the Venice Canal. Like I remember,
for a few years we did kind of all stay
in touch, and then life just took like life happened
for all of us and we lost touch for a
long time, and that was why the reunion was so
great to get back to get cell phone numbers for people,
(37:02):
email addresses for all of you, and it's it feels
like no, it really feels like no time has passed
when when we talk about it, when we see you guys,
Like even when we had Kelly and John on, it
was like I think we all pieced together different parts
of the memories. Like David and I we we've talked
(37:23):
about this ad nauseum on this podcast about our relationship.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
How with that?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, did I wonder if they knew that we were dating?
Did you guys know.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Everybody knew?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
David he knew. I mean that Christine was coming from
like this super kind of straight, laced upstanding background and
everything had Remember you had the poster like hanging in
there with a.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Cat on the break I don't remember it, but Lisa
reminded me about it, and then it's like, oh, I
think they're canoodling.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Oh my ought you know? And we didn't really, we
didn't really know what was going on. There were other
rumors about other things, but we don't need to get
into any of that. But we kind of knew about
you too.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Oh. I remember David, you know, saying to me over
and over, isn't she cute? Isn't Christine cute? Oh? My
god cute?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
You know, Dave, iway was head over heels. Yeah, we
had we had a nice up and down journey. I
just didn't know if anyone else knew, but that was
part of our experience.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, that was exactly. But it was like we have
different memories of how it all happened and what the like.
I think, no matter what, we still look back on it,
whether it was like you know, we had the ups
and the downs, and by the way, even Kelly and all,
like we all had those moments of like why is
Kelly mad at all of us?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And what's going on? Like it felt like siblings in
a way, like it really did.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I just remember even when John came in, it was
a totally new dynamic, Like it was a new you know,
Joe and John got on very quickly as fast, like
you know, they were both so quirky in their own
unique ways, and I, like I was that was when
you left David, and I loved being their third wheel.
That's when we would hit the malls together and miniature off.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But yeah, it just is.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well, there's almost a sense. I mean there was Cindy,
and there was Cotton, there was some but it felt
like there were all these teenagers who were very attractive
and they're all together and that's slightly little, you know,
and there's really no adult supervision. We did not have
(39:45):
any results.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Cindy was technically our guardian, right, Cindy was supposed to
be our guardian, and she was not that.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Interested in that. Actually I loved Cyndy. I thought she
was great.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
But though there were adults around, if there was like
if we needed hell help with anything, but I think Christine,
we might have had adjoining rooms for like a year.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, they were next door.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I mean they didn't really plan that out very well.
That would not fly today, gosh no. And then they
Dave and Allen and I playing mini golf in the
hallways and into our rooms one night, and anytime you
scored a pot you had to drink a shot at tequila.
And then we had to wake up and go to
(40:26):
the read through of the next script. And we looked
at each other and said, we are the stupidest people
in the history of the world. Why were we invited
to this tequila? You didn't go to any tequila parties.
I don't know if we were drinking them.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
But oh my god, it's funny because I don't remember that.
I'm not sure why.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
You know, guys, but I have the show. I don't
know why I did it.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
But then when the show I left to do got canceled,
you guys took me back so graciously.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I think I don't know Graham maybe he wrote my return,
but I remember having a.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, like, Okay, this Robert Mitchum Juliette Lewis comedy is over.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Can I come back to Tucson.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I can't imagine why that ended.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You guys were like, yeah, come back, man, Like it
was so gracious. But I mean we we had okay,
how do we how do we replace last? I mean
that was a heartbreak for us. It was like how
do we replace you? And I mean I wasn't really
active in it. I would, I would go to casting
and stuff, but it was, you know, we Bronnie and
(41:50):
Jonathan I think first, and it's like, oh, he's quirky
and funny, he's good, but he's he doesn't have that
that thing that that David had, which is you know, idol. Oh, Well,
then we'll get Jeffrey coy in because he's really handsome. Yeah,
but he's not funny and in way that that David is.
And so hey, he's available to come back, bring him back,
(42:10):
bring him back. We'll work it out.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Lots of boys, a couple of girls will figure it out.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's why you guys to know how much I appreciated that.
That was. That was a great day. When you returned,
it was like, Okay, the jokes are going. I mean seriously,
as a as a writer, it's like, Okay, that's going
to be funny again. I know.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And I remember going back to Tucson was like coming
home again and being back with family.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
It was so awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
And then like the fact that you know, we didn't
know what Nickelodeon was right at the time. Nickelodeon really
was just starting. And then you look at the IP
and the properties they've created over the years, it's like unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We didn't we had no idea about then. No, we
were their first or second scripted show. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
It was Ron Johnson, Yeah, Brown and Jeffrey Right. She
was great. Yeah, she did a lot of good work.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Did you guys know people were watching? Because we did.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Christine and I talk about this. We didn't know for
a while that anyone was watching the show. No, but
I knew that what would happen somethings.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I kept working, I said, at some point because people
I would meet assistants of agents and they would say, oh,
I love Speed. It was always Speed, and then it
became band of brothers. I said, at some point, and
it happened. I was going up in the elevator at
CIA at the death start, and this assistant said, oh,
I just got to tell you how much I love
(43:41):
Hey Dude.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And I went there we go here it is right
years later.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, this was a little kid who is now years old.
I'm so old. No, so true.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
My wife Laura was on ER for many years.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yes, she was.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
People would always come up and say, oh, my gosh,
you're so great on on that medical show. We just
love you so much. And and then sometimes people, you know,
younger people would come up to me and say, oh
you mister Ernst, Oh gosh, it's you know, Hey Dude
was my favorite show. And then there'd be a time
(44:23):
when when somebody would come up and say oh, Carrie
Weaver on e R you were Wait a minute, is
that mister Ernst and Carrie Weaver?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
No, no, that's wait. But Laura was on Hey dude,
right didn't she do an episode?
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Yes? She was my girlfriend, great miss Andrews.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Oh yeah, and then we together we wrote one of them,
that's right, with Graham's help.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Wait which episode did you guys write?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
It was? It was the best, I think the best
episode of the sixty five.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Of course, in.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
Pieces Rest in Peace, mister Ernest discovered that well, he
mistakenly believed he was got a bad medical report and
was destined to die.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
So he saw someone else's scan or something was that
or got it was.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
A horse, but one of the horses that one of
the pages had blown off.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And Graham, you approved that story, absolutely, agree, you get
to write that classic. They're going to die, but it
was actually a force, that's right.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
And they had to keep me awake. The kids had
to keep me awake.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Oh yeah, oh that's right. If he falls asleep, he's
going to die.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Oh and then Christine, uh it was it was melodies. Uh,
I'm there, I bet you can't be mean for a
whole day.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Oh you remember that episode.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Oh god, yes, and mean to everybody, Yes, what season
was that?
Speaker 6 (46:16):
That was?
Speaker 3 (46:16):
That was towards the end, that was there, and it
was and it was because here's the truth. We knew
that Christine had a very dark sense of humor, and
we thought, let's just bring that out. And it was like,
it's not easy for you to be on camera and
be mean.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
You know, so much easier when the camera's off.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Camera's off, and it's just a really after another.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Oh no, there's no one darker than me.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
But yeah, there's But to the point Christine, to your
point of the writers living with us, they knew, like
Lisa knew you, Graham knew you.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You know. It must have helped shape the characters and
the episode. Oh yeah, I mean quickly we found out
what people could do, right, Yeah, you'll be good at
like packing.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
A suitcase, packing a suitcase.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
There was an episode where Brad had too.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yes, she's teaching how to pack a suitcase properly. Yes,
do you guys remember because Kelly we talked about this
with Kelly, and Kelly didn't I remember that we had
all we didn't officially get quote canceled, but we knew the.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Fifth season was ending, and most of us were not
going to come back. Like I knew I wasn't coming back.
I think David wasn't coming back. Kelly said she would
have come back. But do you remember a couple episodes
before the end, they brought in some new characters to
potentially spin off the show. Do you remember that, David,
(47:55):
like there was a girl. There was like there were
new characters that came in as in case they wanted
to keep the show running.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Like that's what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's yes, yes, and it didn't take. I mean it
didn't take.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
They'd end up canceling the show. But I think our
our our commitment, our contracts were up, so like we
were all kind of ready to go to La and I.
But I remember them bringing in this a couple new
people to try out, a guy, a girl. It was
like if they were going to do the next chapter.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Oh my god, it didn't take.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
No, there's a podcast that I plug here all the
time that Lisa found Lisa Malamed called Yay Dude, and
it is a it is a hey dude, rewatch podcast
that they go for through every of these two super
fans two girls I think in their thirties now maybe
forty maybe early forties, if that makes sense. But they
(48:53):
they go through and they break down every single solitary
episode and and I keep saying to David, I think
Kelly and Lisa went on that episode, went on their podcast,
but I want to go on. But there there are
best people to go to for any answers, right they
would know there are people.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you guys, the fans of Hey dude,
and you have to be the right age. I guess
it's just very it's a specific demographic. They are so
passionate about the show. Like you know, I say, Nickelodeon
at the time was like snapchat, like parents aren't allowed.
We own this and it helped shape their childhood and
(49:35):
they are so attached to the show, right, Christine, I
mean it's really pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
So much, I mean obsessively, obsessively, Like I feel like
we get asked all the time, like we had our reunion,
but we get asked all the time about the conventions
like we have not sort of that's an untouched world.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
That Oh, if you guys decided to go to a convention,
just give us a haul or Oh wait, hold on,
nineties Con has invited us.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
I think we've got something.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Hey, dude, let me know, let me know. I mean,
I don't have to participate, but I'll go up and
pretend to be like a really creepy super fan.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Sign this, please, sign this, please, Belly Graham, do you
still have your jean jacket?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Do you still have your belt buckle? Do you still
have the sneakers?
Speaker 3 (50:29):
What else am I've still got the sneakers. When Dave
turned us very significant age in New York, there was
a party. I showed up wearing the sneakers. I still
have the melody are Hero Melody or whatever it was. Yes, yes,
I wore that at the reunion in Austin. Oh yes,
but I haven't. Yeah, that's it's up in a bin somewhere.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
And I found the jean jacket. I found the jean
jacket with the patches. We got patches that you could
iron on for each series. You could put them on
the art that was our our badges series one, Yeah,
season two.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
The hat, I've still got the hat somewhere. The hats
in l A. I the weirdest. The belt that was belt,
the belt shoes that was kind of weird, but okay.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Shoes the way.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
I kind of even remember them asking what's your shoe size?
Odd gift, but I don't have mine.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
I will say this, you guys. There are blooper reels
are on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Okay, Christina and I found them and or someone directed
us to them, and then you can look at who
posted it and it was Jeffrey Darby.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
But our blooper RILs, which I got to tell our listeners,
the blooper reels were incredible.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I mean I remember those at the rap parties were amazing. Yeah, okay,
I'll go down a little down the nostalgia rabbitable.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, I only want more.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
I wish there were more. There's two of them, but
they're great. They're so much fun, so much fun.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Well, you guys, Honestly, I'm so proud to have whatever
legacy we've created together and to be in it with
you guys, because we are experiencing our our audience really
loves the show and it lives on.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
And just I'm so proud to have worked with both
of you guys.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
Love you both so much, Love you guys.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Yeah, and you know, for us, it was you know,
just it was really was the beginning, and I mean
for a for Dave and me, we a friendship that
has last year. We haven't seen that much of each
other since the pandemic. But but other than that, I
mean saw each other a lot over the years and.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Soon.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Well, I'm going to send you this nineties con in
Connecticut in March because I love to have you guys
there and it could be fun for all of us
to spend a weekend together.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
Will say this, Connie and I are still a part
of the Austin Television Festival because Caitlin and Emily came
in and said, how about a Hey dude reunion And
I said, damn you, that's so smart. Now I'm hooked
and we've just gay part of the whole festival because
that weekend was I was unbelievable. It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
That was best.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Christina and I went back last year with iHeartMedia to
promote their podcasts, and Caitlyn and Emily had us there.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Yeah, and they love you, they love you. And then
remembert Kelly couldn't show up. There was a family yeah yeah,
so they made sure that they got her in the
next year with you David on that sort of Broader
Nickelodeon panel. They're they're great, Kaitlin, Emily, I think we
could do another. Hey, dude, at some point. Graham. My
son is a freshman at ut Austin. That's right. That
(53:51):
we spend a lot of time there.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yeah, Austin's a great city. I mean, I love it,
and he's having so much fun. Good to see you.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
Thank thank you, thank you, thank you, and Dave, thank
you for overcoming the technological hell.
Speaker 5 (54:08):
I'm really sorry that you couldn't see me because I
do have all my uh my mister and surt hat
buckle shoes. I got all that, damn it. Yeah, it
would have been so good.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, we miss you, Dave Risbone really likewise.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Please biggest tugs to to all of your families, all
the kids, the dogs, everybody, the wives. Love you, guys,
love you all.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Big, big, big Happy New Year, Happy New Year. Thank you.
I want us back on. We'll get back on. Yay.
You will get into your house how you want us there,
We'll just show up.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
We do need to get together in person again for sure,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Thank you guys. By guys, how cool was that?
Speaker 4 (54:59):
I mean, I feel like I don't even know how
much I spoke because I was just smiling with joy
at how much I love these two people. And like
I said, the memories are so like it feels like
yesterday and it's been thirty plus years and it just
(55:23):
I mean, I really see them and I just always
feel like we are all forever bonded.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
You spend every day and you live together in a
hotel for a couple of years. It's yeah, it's like
there's no time has passed. I mean, Graham's still the same,
just cracking jokes.
Speaker 6 (55:39):
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
And Dave by the way to you know, the listeners
did not get to get first of all, because he
couldn't get his screen on, we didn't get to see him.
But you know, so he was chiming in on his phone,
which I'll take it because he's you know, he's got
grown kids and they're traveling, he and Laura, and I
know that he's busy in his life. But he is
(56:03):
the driest yeah has I mean, I like, the sharpest
sense of humor. I remember, like he will say something
with a straight face and you have to really look
at him and then know that it's like it is.
He is truly one of the funniest men I have
ever met in my life, and just and every year
(56:23):
like always sends me every year I get a birthday
email from Dave every year. Really since we stopped the show,
yes I should have said that, but just such a
love bug and Graham's terrific. I know, we didn't even
get to I mean, this was not going to be
the episode to get into all of their other work.
We needed to have our reunion, We needed to talk
about the show.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I called Lisa Malaman before we before this interview, just saying, like,
you have any memories, like I want to jog some
stuff for me, and like at the end of the show,
she was like, listen, Graham is one of our great
greatest screenwriters.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Like he really has become.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Like a treasure, you know, I mean, all the amazing
work he's done in Dave Brisbane was the funniest comedic
actor that I've ever worked with, And just watching him
work out a scene or work out a bit, it
just I think it taught you and I a lot
about work ethic and whatever you're doing, take do it
one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
You know, oh so much, so much, And I look
at it now and I think for you and I
who have kids who are now the age we were
when we were doing the show, you know, and like
looking at them going out in the world and the
people that they're that are influencing them now, like mentors,
and you know what I mean that I keep saying
(57:39):
to my kids, like age doesn't matter. It's like if
you meet a cool person that you're working with, and
like that will be somebody that you will be, that
will be in your life forever. Like that is and
that's really how it's felt with them. So that was
really great, and I hope we satisfied our hey dude
fan with that Part two reunion. We have so many
(58:03):
more people to get on eventually.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, maybe listen, if we do this nineties con, which
I hope we do, let's maybe do an episode from
there with everyone together.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
I know that would be really great if we If
I know, I feel like that's all in the works,
and that's where we're saying it here first and where
hopefully that that will all get confirmed soon. Yes, but
that's kind of around the corner, like that's a couple
of months away March. But I mean it, we've not
ever been really asked to do any of these conventions,
and I have so many friends and nineties in particular,
(58:36):
the nineties conventions are so huge right now because of
the work like that, all the stuff we talk about
on this podcast, the music, the work, everything, It's just
a period of time that people love to revisit.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
So just stay tuned on that.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Thank you so much for listening. Everybody, have a great
week and a happy and healthy new year.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
We'll see you next week, all right, Bye, Christine, Bye,
Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and give us
five stars
Speaker 2 (59:05):
And please follow us on Instagram at Hey Dude the
Nineties called See you next time.
Hey Dude, the Nineties Called with Christine Taylor and David Lasher.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey everybody, welcome back to Hey Do the Nineties Called podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I hope you had a great holiday. I'm David.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi David. Happy New Year, everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Happy and healthy new year, and welcome back.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I'm Christine and we are in a new year of
twenty twenty four, a new year of our podcast with
a really fun way to launch twenty twenty four for us,
I mean definitely for us as as these are more
Hey Dude, co workers.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I know, but I just I want our listeners to
understand the magnitude of these two guests, Graham Yos and
David Brisbane. Like I know, there were a lot of
Nickelodeon shows, but the talent that we were surrounded by,
specifically Graham and David. I mean, David Brisbane is probably
(00:59):
still the great gatest comedic actor I've ever worked with,
and Graham could be the most accomplished writer that we've
ever worked with.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I mean, yeah, we we always talk about this that
we were all sort of at the beginning. I mean,
Graham and David had already worked right in Hollywood more
than we had, but still it was still like this
sort of launching period in our careers. And regardless of
(01:31):
what age we were all at, you know, none of
us knew what the future was going to be. So
we just were enjoying each other and we knew we
just I just remember us all laughing. So particularly Dave
Brisbane and Graham, their friendship. They as like sort of
the adult, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The adults in the room, the adults in the room.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Their.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Relationship, their sense of humor, their sense ability. I feel
like we were so lucky to witness and I know
that they've stayed great friends, but it's been forever since
we have all talked.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It was our reunion, right, it was our.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, well, Graham was with us in Austin, so was Dave.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
This is why David and I co host the podcast
because the things that David forgets, I remember the things
that I forget. The only person who was not there
was Kelly. Kelly was not able to make it, but
we had everyone else. But yeah, this is very special,
(02:40):
and I know Dave does not. He's not a technolo.
He didn't even know. I remember when we talked to
him about this, he didn't even know that you didn't
have to be in person to do a podcast. I
was like, Dave, this is the easiest thing possible. You
don't even have to We don't have to see us
just on a screen.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You have to see us.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh man, I have so much to ask both of
these guys. I'm sure you do too. But should we
welcome them in?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah? I think we have Graham as we're working on Dave.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But yes, oh my god, Raham, yos welcome to our show.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Thank you for coming. David Lasher with a little bit
of gray and the beard, Oh my god. Time anyway, Yeah, dude,
all of us.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
He is working on the zoom link. He is having
some zoom link issues. Okay, Happy New Year. This is
the greatest New Year's gift you could ever give us.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I'm so happy to finally get onto this. Yeah, we
missed you last time. You know. We launched the show
with the Heydude reunion.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Christina and I were in New York together with Kelly
and John and uh, yeah, we're so happy to have
you here.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Man and Lisa.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Lisa joined us remotely remotely, as you know, we needed
an adult to sort of you.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Know, as we always did. At least one writer I
think there isay thing now that you have to have
one writer in these podcasts.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Graham.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
First of all, David and I before we before you
came in, we were just talking about the fact that
this was sort of the beginning of all of our careers.
Like even if everybody had been working a little bit
here and there, this was like a sort of you know,
moment in time. None of us knew really what was happening.
(04:30):
We didn't know what this show was going to be,
We didn't know what we were doing, but we had
so much fun. Where were you at I want to
hear from the beginning, like, what when you got the
phone call to do this?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
How did that all come about for you?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was living in New York and I a dear
friend of mine was playing on the Double Day Publishing
Companies softball team, and I went to watch one of
his games and there was a very cute young woman
there and I started chatting with her and we arranged
to go to a meeting. And then my friend says,
you know, I think she's living with someone. It's like,
(05:06):
said Darene. I hear he said, yeah, yeah, no, we're
getting married next year. That doesn't mean I can't go
to a movie with a guy. So I finally met
her boyfriend and eventual husband, and I was at their
wedding on the Circle Line going around Manhattan, and he
was Michael Comment and he was editing for Nickelodeon. He
was doing some stuff and he said, I think they're
(05:29):
doing something. They might need a writer. And I went
in and it was this silly thing called Turkey TV
where they took old archival free documentary stuff and just
we wrote jokes around that. And so then they had
a little money. Jeff Darby, he had a little and
I was working with Adam Bernstein. If you don't know Adam,
he went on to direct pilots for like Scrubs, and
(05:51):
he wrote We're directed for years on OZ and he
just did four episodes of the first season of Silo.
Great director, but at that point we're all nothing. And
we wrote a pilot together. Darby liked it, but they
weren't going forward. And then hey, you know we're doing
this other show. We're doing this show called Hey dude,
(06:12):
would you be interested in being a writer on that?
And I'd say, yes, is it paid? Would I be
paid to be a writer? Yes, I would be very
interested in that. And I never met Dela Duke at all.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Ever, We never met Dela Duke.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah what Dela Duke was the creator of Hey Dude? Right, Yes,
never met her. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
To me to this day, to this day, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
By the way, I just recently exchanged emails with Brown
Brown Johnson, who was our Nickelodeon guru at the time
with Darby and everyone, and she she's retired, living out
on the North Shore up by Shelter Island in Long
Island and doing great. Her daughter, do you remember her
(06:57):
little daughter who would visit the set. Yeah, thirty eight
years old, living in parist living a good life, making
music and all sorts of podcasts stuff. But anyway, so
I got pulled into that. That was it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, let me just explain to our listeners that on
the Hey Dude set, we were surrounded by some spectacular talent,
including our two guests today Graham and David Brisbane. And
we were a bunch of young kids, right, you didn't
really understand what it was, but you guys taught us
so much about.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well we didn't know what we were doing either, right, Yeah,
we were young too. We were just older. I mean
it was like I'd say to people that working on
Hay Dude was like writers boot camp, you know, it
was sort of we could do all the classics. Oh,
the two characters that the boy and girl who like
each other but won't admit they like each other. They
(07:51):
get handcuffed together and they lose the key. Right, Yeah,
that was a good one. The ranch owner gets hit
on the head, gets amnesia, thinks he's a teen major. Again,
we can do that one. We can all the classics.
And then and there were water Troughs. Yeah, Graham, we
remembered the water troup. Listen. I got to ask you this.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You were a slapstick comedy writer and you loved you know,
the stories were so well structured, but you loved.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
The good Pratfall more than anyone I've ever known.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And then I would have thought that you would have
gone on to be a great comedy writer. And you're
one of the greatest drama writers in the world.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Like, how did you pivot from that? I honestly, I
always wanted to do both, and I loved working in
comedy in my first job after Hay Dude. I'll tell
you this first of all, I mean we do what
sixty five episodes of hay dude. I think I'm you know,
I sort of run the last forty episodes of them,
(08:55):
and you know, working with Lisa and and other writers,
and I'm thinking, oh, you know, Nickelodeon's going to make
me this big sweet deal to develop things. Nothing crickets,
So I'm all for all of us. I know everyone crickets.
It's like thank you, sunset so long, a little while,
(09:15):
a little strange.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So then.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I had nothing to do, and Mlammed and I decided
we would write spec half hours and try and get work.
So I went over to Malamed's and she got Lisa Mlammed,
who's one of the great writers on the show. She's
the best. I think she came in through Alan. I
think she came in through Alan Goodman. Alan Goodman was
the original showrunner on the show, head writer. We didn't
(09:39):
even know what a showrunner was, there was no such thing.
He was head writer. And then he passed me the
pen for the second block when we were doing the
next thirty episodes or whatever. But Lisa and I went
to her you know, west Side La apartment and watched
episodes of Roseanne that we got on videotape, you know
that someone had taped off the air and Murphy Brown,
(10:02):
and I decided I'd write a Murphy Brown and a
Roseann and did that and they weren't bad. And I
had a friend who was just becoming an agent at ICM,
and she said, I think I can get you work
with this. But this is February. There's no one's staffing
until May. And she said, I got nothing for you
(10:23):
to do. And I said, okay, well I had this
idea for and this is you know, I had this
idea for a feature about a bus with a bomb
on it and it can't drop all of fifty miles
an hour, I swear to God. I mean although initially
it was like twenty miles an hour, and the original
title was Minimum Speed. And then I realized you never
put the word minimum in a title, and it was
going to be called minimum seat the way it was
(10:45):
twenty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And we're talking about the movie Speed, yeah, which wrote
and Speed.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And that changed my life. So I had had I
wrote that, and then that started to go around the
town and I got my first and I was going
to be a comedy writer. I got a job on
Full House. Yeah. Yeah, I worked on Full House for
a night and a half weeks, and I say that
because I was on a ten week probation. I thought
(11:12):
they were going to fire me, and I quit before
they could fire me. I later talked to the showrunners,
like twenty years later, and I said, we weren't going
to fire you. We didn't fire anyone, but it was
it was a great and miserable experience. And then speed
Soel the two days after I quit Full House, Speedzel
and then everything changed.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Wow, wow, So really you left the show with the
full intention of writing comedy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I had some experience doing that. I liked doing that,
and I did get another job after a Full House.
I got a job on a show called The Powers
that Be, which was created by Marta Kaufman and David Crane,
two shows before they created Friends. Yeah, and then I
and it was produced by Norman Leair. Oh wow, that
(12:05):
Powers that Be group. You know, we've had more reunions
than we did episodes, you know. And Norman would always
show up. And when he died, I realized, oh, there's
thirty or forty other groups in Hollywood who knew him
like that. And he was always available, always supportive, very funny,
just an absolute mench and so just felt blessed to
(12:29):
know that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh a legend, legend.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Absolute legend.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I had lunch with him about a year before the pandemic,
right outside the building that had just been named the
Norman Lair Building of Sony and his daughter was with
him and she said, Dad, do you ever think about
the fact that you're still alive? And he said, every
minute of every day. He was not yet one hundred.
But anyway, So I worked on that show for a
(12:55):
year and a half and you know, worked with great,
great people, great writers and great cast. So I did.
That was but that was my last time in half hour? Yeah,
what made you decide to switch? Did you not? Like
it was just a half hour schedule? And no, you
know that was fine. It was just I mean it
(13:16):
was I quit Full House and luckily Speeds sold. But
then there was years go by and I'm on a
lot and now the writer's room for full Houses on
that lot, and I went to visit them. I just
went into the room and I said, is okay if
I just go And because a number of the writers
(13:37):
were still there, they looked at me like I was
you remember the like Bull Durham or Major League. I
was in the show. I was a feature writer. I
was in the show, and they were like, what's it
like up there? Do people carry your bags?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It was all that kind of shit, and so they
were looking up to me. Twenty years go by and
now I run into feature writers and they're like, what's
it like in television.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
When we were all doing Hey dude?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And I was like, this is what I remember, just
the amount of laughter, the amount I remember you and
Dave becoming and Dave was on here a second ago,
and now we seem to have lost lost the box again.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
But I think we will get him. We will get him.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
But I just remember you two becoming fast friends and
the like I felt like you two had this sort
of brotherhood.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
This is maybe is that real? Like is that or
is that just how I remembered it. I remember that
you got.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
No other, no we we listen, we just fell in love.
And it's what I remember. Two people of a certain age,
you know. I guess we were about thirty at that point.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Dave had I met Dave's wife, Laura Ines, when she
was in a relationship with Reed Bernie and read Bernie
if you know him, great right, great actor. Wanted Tony
for the Humans.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh my god, he's in everything do He's so good everything,
He's so good, great guy.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
We've stayed in touch over the years. But you know,
Reid decided he was going to go around the world
for a year and he wasn't taking Laura, and she
was like, okay, Well, Laura goes off and does a
play with this guy named Dave Brisbane, and then she
got like appendicitis or something, and he took care of
her and that was it. That was it. She fell
out in head over heels. So Dave was a little
(15:50):
bit of that other guy, but I knew of him.
I met him once when he had his head shaved
for a play called Sarcophagus or something. Was sort of
a Chernobyl type thing, if I remember correctly. And so
we just met on the set basically, and Alan, so
the three of us, but Dave and I were there
(16:12):
all the time. But when Alan would come in, we'd
all go see the Tucson Toros play our hotel, right,
they stayed at our hotel. The other teams coming in
would stay at the hotel and and Dave and Allen
and I bonded tightly, and there was you know, there
was one night with maybe alcohol.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Was involved and wait, I thought we had Dave for
a second.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Still there is I thin.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Can you hear me? Can you see me?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
See you?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Okay? All I can hear is Graham talking.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
All right, cool man, you're on with us? Yeah, don't do.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Anything, don't we don't do anything else.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I love Dave. This is such a great gift. Thank
you for joining us. Thank god you're here, Dave. Now
I can stop talking because it was just but I'll
tell you what we were talking about was you and
I becoming dear friends on that show and all the laughter.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yes, going to the diner for a burger?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Do you want to sing the song? Dave?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
You know you can't see me, so I think you
should sing it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
At the Ramata there was a diner downstairs. Do you
remember what it was called? Either of you? Theos? Theos?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
What shows? THEO?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
David?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Do you even remember a diner?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I remember like a place called Little Anthony's, or like
Bobby McGee's.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
There were a couple of places, yes, Bobby McGee's of course. Wait,
all right, theos tell us the song sing us, the song.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
When You're hungry for a burger, haven't got a car?
Just come on down to Theo's. It's not very far
at Theo's were close, and that's what Dave and I
would say, what you got to give to theos is,
it's close.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I remember that wait time out. I thought that we
were the only ones who didn't get a car, But
you guys weren't given cars.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I got a car. I got a car because I
was an important producer writer. I hope, okay, sorry that
I had a tank, an army tank. There were some
security issues, so Dave and I would drive to the
set every day, and then we got it arranged so
(18:41):
that if I wasn't there, Dave could use the car.
So it was we basically shared it, and it was
a It was a grand am. And we decided that
we would leave a cassette, an empty cassette container, up
on the dashboard just to see what.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Happened to it, what it would melt into.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You just turned into this weird, shriveled shape because of
all that Tucson Son because man, man, it could get hot,
and then in the winter it got so cold I
mean it was just such a crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
When we moved out of the Ramada and into whatever
that other place was, like Madison, right, yeah, there seasons
I think. Then we got cars.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, well, well you got a car and you were
only what we were, like eighteen, So we were eighteen.
David and I and Joe and John all had licenses.
We got one car to share amongst the cast, the
kid cast.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We had a car, right, Kelly was fifty already at
the time.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Telly had her BMW.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yep, oh god, that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
We remember seeing her like cruise by us in the
van in the mornings, driving like speeding by us in
the van with we were with Cotton and Kelly would
go zooming past us, getting there just a couple of
seconds ahead of us.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Christine or David, Are either of you in a car
jumping on that road on speedway? Did you ever hit
the jumps?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, Cotton, remember Cotton, Cotton jumps.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Dude, Cotton drove very fast out of those jumps. He
was great because Dave and I would gun it and
we would catch air and it was a weird thing.
Were suddenly dukes of hazard and it was this weird thing.
Where the wheels. Once they're up in the air, they
just start spinning really fast. So when you would hit again,
there'd be a screech, it'd go and off we'd go.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And one time Darby took it too fast and almost
killed himself and Allen and other people like they bottomed
out and scraped and skid it off the road and survived.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So that was all right every day. Listen what I
remember about you guys with Brisbane and Graham. You know,
we were a bunch of kids. You were surrounded by
really young performers. But watching you guys made me respect
the work, right, you guys were working so hard. You
were taking it very seriously, and we didn't know what
(21:17):
Nickelodeon was, right, we were just like, this is going
to be fun and you know, maybe we'll get out
of here by five o'clock. But you guys were working
at your highest level, and I think that had an
effect on all of us. No seriously, right, Christine. I
mean they were doing it, they were taking it for real,
and so we all.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Had to I remember, I feel like you had to
put up with a lot. Dave Brisbane, he was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Always working about, working on bits, always trying to make
it funnier, right, Like, Dave, you were working hard.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
All I remember is that, gosh, it was the best
time ever. It was just fun all the time. You
guys were great, the crew was great, and we just
had a lot of fun. It was not tortuous in
(22:12):
any way as some other shows that I went on
to do. I won't mention them, but yeah, hey, dude,
was just a whole lot of fun. And that's not
exactly you know, hard work that's as fun.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No, But Dave, Dave was really good. I mean, we
would come up with stuff. We would say, what about this?
Can we do a bit where we flip the camera
upside down but it looks like Dave is standing up
and he's hiccupping, and then he opens the bottle of
water and the water just shoots up straight in the
sky and we realize the camera's upside down and he's
(22:59):
hanging upside down to curious hiccups.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And it was just by the way, you were ahead
of your time, because that's what that's like now, Breaking
Bad and Better call Saul style like that is we
were well ahead of our time.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh yeah, we're breaking Bad and Better. The desert Desert,
they were fans.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They were fans.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Clearly you hear that.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But Dave, do you remember, because like listen, I we have.
I'm so grateful that we have those blooper reels that
exist because those are the like for David and I.
I mean, now all the episodes exist and we can
go back and watch them, and I've gone back and
watched like one or two, but the blooper reels when
when we've rewatched those, David like those sparked my memory
(23:49):
like of the like the moments, and and they catch
the tense moments too, Like I remember there was a
an episode where and God bless him, Joe Torres was
not an actor, and there was an episode and I
don't know who wrote it where they.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Gave him a whole speech, a speech about a deer,
and it was.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Like a whole parafol monologue that poor Joe could not
yet and it was like the end of the day
and we're all wearing top hats. I just I don't
know what the episode, but Joe could not get the
speech and the level of anger that you see in
me on this flooper reel. It is because I don't
(24:32):
remember being that upset, but I am so upset that
he can't get the speech, Like I took it seriously.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I was pissed you wanted to get back to the raticid.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I guess, I mean, so much going on there. But Dave,
you also had to work with Cassie the Dog and
Josh at the time. That was a double whammie of challenges.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yes, yeah, Cassie more so than Joh. Uh, I think
I go he was great.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Josh is the best.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, uh, you met Dave.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Do you remember what you would say when you messed
up a line? Yeah, like I now you know, as
an adult, I know what that means, but back then
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What that meant. I said. Dave kept saying it, let's go.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Again, the same thing that I say when I when
I mess a croquet shot.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Dave would also yell. And there was some stuff where
like a bunch of the bar Nunners were running towards
something and something had happened, and Dave's yelling fry hide, yeah,
freedom in German. Right.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I remember Joe yelling that too. Then Joe caught
onto Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Dave, David, David Brisbane was on another intellectual plane, and
you know, it's just so our listeners know it's like
a Shakespearean trained actor working on this show and making
it as good as it can be. And same with Graham.
It was it trickled down from you guys. Well, David
actually done work of quality. I had done really nothing.
(26:16):
I had written Ghosts, written books and done some articles
and stuff, but this was my first real scriptwriting job.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
And I mean you made good.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean we learned fast. And it was also,
as I said, it was boot camp, but it was
like right, we would shoot an episode in three and
a half days, take a day and a half off
to prep for the next one, and then Ghosts we
were on a five day cycle, just non stop. You
write something and then two days later there it's being filmed.
It was.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It was an incredible, incredible learning opportunity. You know, what
are your favorite episodes Graham and David? Like, are there
any that stick out to you that like? Because this
scripts were very well crafted, right, you know, even you
can compare them to shows like Cheers, where there was
just this like will they won't they Brad and Ted
(27:09):
get handcuffed? You know, they were amazing, amazingly crafted scripts.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Any any episode written by Graham or Alan Goodman or
Lisa Muhammad. Not that the others weren't great, but those
are the ones that I remember. Yeah, you could sink
your teeth into into these.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Is it horrible to say that? I don't even remember
there being any other writers, Like.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, there were were, there were, Yeah, there was one
I kept in touch with and then honestly and there
it was that experience also of sitting down with a
writer and giving them notes and realizing, oh, no, I'm
going to have to rewrite this whole thing because every
note I'm tom telling you how to write the line,
and it's just this isn't working well.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And maybe that the difference was because Alan and you
and Lisa were all sort of in the trenches and
knew us so well and knew what to write for,
and so the writers that were not with us, so
to speak, we're just sort of writing abstract ideas, right
that didn't not necessarily work in real time. Like that's
(28:22):
why I guess I don't really have I guess I
remember seeing strange names.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, there was this guy Steve and I've forgotten his
last name, but he actually wrote the set for a
few weeks at one point because Lisa wasn't there, and
I wasn't there, and yeah, but it was I listen.
It was a pivotal time. I just started dating Connie
and we almost broke up between the first two seasons,
and then that's when I got sober and and then
(28:50):
we got married at the end of the whole thing.
I mean it was a huge And Dave, you had
cal Yeah, we got in the show and they basically
hung out in the condo and she yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, I remember babysitting for Cow. I don't know what
season must have been towards the end.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I think that's my first babysitter.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And how is Cow now?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
He's a thirty three year old, big hairy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Man, very very upsetting to me.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Changed, he's changed.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Money.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It was a baby, But you look the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Same, thanks, Dave.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, you and I love you so much.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And Lasher Lasher somehow got handsomer. I mean he was
a very handsome young man. I remember this, Dave, that
you would adjust your hair in the camera lend oh God,
so there's all those outtakes of that coming looking using
that as the mirror, Oh Graham.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
I continue to do that for years, and David, I
was going to say, I think the photo shoot that
we did for this podcast, you were doing it totally
checking yourself out in the reflection.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, I try to shed my vanity. I can't do it.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I want to talk about Fred Keller and Ross Bagwell Jr.
We had two directors. They would switch off episodes and
they could not be more opposite and more extreme in
their personalities. I want to hear your thoughts on those
two guys.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Keller a great guy. His wife was on the set
I think every day, Yes, by his side.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah, she was a delight lost touch with them. I
don't know if they'd move back to the East Coast
or not. But of course he went on to direct
a number of shows twenty four and some shows of
Graham's What.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Really, Graham, you you had Fred directed some of your shows,
He directed some Boomtown's.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I think he directed my one of my favorite Boomtown episodes.
And he also worked on Justified. I mean, yeah, I
worked with him. I can't remember the name of the show.
It wasn't one of yours, Graham, but you know, it
was like, oh my god, here we are, you know,
shooting on location in Los Angeles. Some Detective Show.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And then Ross really was just a natural at at
shooting the show. He was a lot of fun, a
lot of fun to get his goat. He would get
so excited his face had just turned bright red.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right red, right, shoot this bastard, funny air, Let's shoot
this pubby. Yeah, And Fred was wearing an ascot and
really liking himself to like Hitchcock.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Right he was. He was shooting the most important film
of our time. Every week.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Was he really wearing an ascot? Or was he wearing
a bandana with with sea breeze around his neck?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And we just got.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
That's what everyone would remember. They dip bandana, see wrapping
around cool everyone down. The smell of an antiseptic.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I just remember about about Ross is he would reach
for a cigarette, put or did in his mouth, say
action and then light it and uh, you know, pick
up his lighter from the shelf and life is cigarette.
And some of the crew got together and they found
(33:04):
all these lighters that were out of fluid that would
not light, and they would replace his lighter with one
of these empty picks. So he would say action and
he'd pick up the lighter and go click.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Click, and his face would get redter and redder, Yeah,
rhtter and redder, and then he would throw the lighter
and someone would go, oh, there's a lighter, and they'd
walk over and I'd pick it up and they'd switch
it with one that worked, and they'd light their cigarette down,
set it down, and then they would swap it out again.
(33:41):
There was all those stories from both Senatel. Let's talk
about Senatin out. I will say quickly about Fred. Fred
and I have stayed in touch all over the years.
But he he was nicknamed on other shows as the professor.
Well you know what Hitch would always do in a
situation like this, right, it's and he but he loved
(34:03):
he loved directing. He loved solving the problem. He I
remember one of his proudest things would tell me about
on a show being jammed up. They've got no time left,
the sun is going down, and he said, I'll make
it a wonder and he made it work and just
start here, picked up on that and then moved that
person around being bang boom, and that was the job.
And he loved the professionalism of doing the job. And
(34:24):
you know, Ross wasn't that kind of director. He came
out of doing what was the show club dance that
Cinateel did, which was their sort of country dance show
and stuff. And he, uh, you know, he just wasn't
the same kind of director that Fred was. And Ross
and I bump heads a bunch of times, and it
was not always great, but we we worked our way
(34:44):
through it. And but Ross Bagwell Senior, he he taught
me one of the greatest lessons I've ever had in writing.
It's where the remember the mind shaft, right, and which
they built on the side of the I did, Do
you remember it?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The entrance out dug a hole out in the dirt
and you could get the desert. You could cut back
and forth. And I think you were at the bottom, Christine,
I was. I was, And you know, and Kelly Brad
shows up what happened and you tell the whole story,
right of what happened? And Ross Junior did he not? Senior?
Did he smokes a cigar? Right, yes, And he's puffing
(35:28):
on his cigar and he looks at me and he says,
you know, she could have just said I'll tell you later.
I think that works.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Saved some time a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Just boring exposition that we've already known. So I learned
so much on that show. But Sineta and Steve Land
and Stephen Land our producer. Yeah, do you keep in
touch with him?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
How is he? He's semi retired, you know, he's got
He always had stuff going and he was a mover
and a shaker. Yes, he was always figuring this out.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Well, bless your heart, right, bless your heart.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
But he was he was. Yeah, he was a producer.
He did the job.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, I feel like when we talk about losing touch,
like you know, David and I talked about this, and
we all talked about it. When we got together in
Austin for the reunion, it was like the show ended
and none of us had cell phones.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
There was no internet. It was we all had home
phone numbers for people that we took on a piece
of paper or in our little file effacts, and we
did stay in touch. I remember when we all moved
to La Dave, I remember going to your.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
House in Venice a bunch of times like that was
a great little place on the Venice Canal. Like I remember,
for a few years we did kind of all stay
in touch, and then life just took like life happened
for all of us and we lost touch for a
long time, and that was why the reunion was so
great to get back to get cell phone numbers for people,
(37:02):
email addresses for all of you, and it's it feels
like no, it really feels like no time has passed
when when we talk about it, when we see you guys,
Like even when we had Kelly and John on, it
was like I think we all pieced together different parts
of the memories. Like David and I we we've talked
(37:23):
about this ad nauseum on this podcast about our relationship.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
How with that?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, did I wonder if they knew that we were dating?
Did you guys know.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Everybody knew?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
David he knew. I mean that Christine was coming from
like this super kind of straight, laced upstanding background and
everything had Remember you had the poster like hanging in
there with a.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Cat on the break I don't remember it, but Lisa
reminded me about it, and then it's like, oh, I
think they're canoodling.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Oh my ought you know? And we didn't really, we
didn't really know what was going on. There were other
rumors about other things, but we don't need to get
into any of that. But we kind of knew about
you too.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Oh. I remember David, you know, saying to me over
and over, isn't she cute? Isn't Christine cute? Oh? My
god cute?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
You know, Dave, iway was head over heels. Yeah, we
had we had a nice up and down journey. I
just didn't know if anyone else knew, but that was
part of our experience.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, that was exactly. But it was like we have
different memories of how it all happened and what the like.
I think, no matter what, we still look back on it,
whether it was like you know, we had the ups
and the downs, and by the way, even Kelly and all,
like we all had those moments of like why is
Kelly mad at all of us?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And what's going on? Like it felt like siblings in
a way, like it really did.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I just remember even when John came in, it was
a totally new dynamic, Like it was a new you know,
Joe and John got on very quickly as fast, like
you know, they were both so quirky in their own
unique ways, and I, like I was that was when
you left David, and I loved being their third wheel.
That's when we would hit the malls together and miniature off.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But yeah, it just is.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well, there's almost a sense. I mean there was Cindy,
and there was Cotton, there was some but it felt
like there were all these teenagers who were very attractive
and they're all together and that's slightly little, you know,
and there's really no adult supervision. We did not have
(39:45):
any results.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Cindy was technically our guardian, right, Cindy was supposed to
be our guardian, and she was not that.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Interested in that. Actually I loved Cyndy. I thought she
was great.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
But though there were adults around, if there was like
if we needed hell help with anything, but I think Christine,
we might have had adjoining rooms for like a year.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, they were next door.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I mean they didn't really plan that out very well.
That would not fly today, gosh no. And then they
Dave and Allen and I playing mini golf in the
hallways and into our rooms one night, and anytime you
scored a pot you had to drink a shot at tequila.
And then we had to wake up and go to
(40:26):
the read through of the next script. And we looked
at each other and said, we are the stupidest people
in the history of the world. Why were we invited
to this tequila? You didn't go to any tequila parties.
I don't know if we were drinking them.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
But oh my god, it's funny because I don't remember that.
I'm not sure why.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
You know, guys, but I have the show. I don't
know why I did it.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
But then when the show I left to do got canceled,
you guys took me back so graciously.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I think I don't know Graham maybe he wrote my return,
but I remember having a.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, like, Okay, this Robert Mitchum Juliette Lewis comedy is over.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Can I come back to Tucson.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I can't imagine why that ended.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You guys were like, yeah, come back, man, Like it
was so gracious. But I mean we we had okay,
how do we how do we replace last? I mean
that was a heartbreak for us. It was like how
do we replace you? And I mean I wasn't really
active in it. I would, I would go to casting
and stuff, but it was, you know, we Bronnie and
(41:50):
Jonathan I think first, and it's like, oh, he's quirky
and funny, he's good, but he's he doesn't have that
that thing that that David had, which is you know, idol. Oh, Well,
then we'll get Jeffrey coy in because he's really handsome. Yeah,
but he's not funny and in way that that David is.
And so hey, he's available to come back, bring him back,
(42:10):
bring him back. We'll work it out.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Lots of boys, a couple of girls will figure it out.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's why you guys to know how much I appreciated that.
That was. That was a great day. When you returned,
it was like, Okay, the jokes are going. I mean seriously,
as a as a writer, it's like, Okay, that's going
to be funny again. I know.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And I remember going back to Tucson was like coming
home again and being back with family.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
It was so awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
And then like the fact that you know, we didn't
know what Nickelodeon was right at the time. Nickelodeon really
was just starting. And then you look at the IP
and the properties they've created over the years, it's like unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We didn't we had no idea about then. No, we
were their first or second scripted show. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
It was Ron Johnson, Yeah, Brown and Jeffrey Right. She
was great. Yeah, she did a lot of good work.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Did you guys know people were watching? Because we did.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Christine and I talk about this. We didn't know for
a while that anyone was watching the show. No, but
I knew that what would happen somethings.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I kept working, I said, at some point because people
I would meet assistants of agents and they would say, oh,
I love Speed. It was always Speed, and then it
became band of brothers. I said, at some point, and
it happened. I was going up in the elevator at
CIA at the death start, and this assistant said, oh,
I just got to tell you how much I love
(43:41):
Hey Dude.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And I went there we go here it is right
years later.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, this was a little kid who is now years old.
I'm so old. No, so true.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
My wife Laura was on ER for many years.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yes, she was.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
People would always come up and say, oh, my gosh,
you're so great on on that medical show. We just
love you so much. And and then sometimes people, you know,
younger people would come up to me and say, oh
you mister Ernst, Oh gosh, it's you know, Hey Dude
was my favorite show. And then there'd be a time
(44:23):
when when somebody would come up and say oh, Carrie
Weaver on e R you were Wait a minute, is
that mister Ernst and Carrie Weaver?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
No, no, that's wait. But Laura was on Hey dude,
right didn't she do an episode?
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Yes? She was my girlfriend, great miss Andrews.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Oh yeah, and then we together we wrote one of them,
that's right, with Graham's help.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Wait which episode did you guys write?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
It was? It was the best, I think the best
episode of the sixty five.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Of course, in.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
Pieces Rest in Peace, mister Ernest discovered that well, he
mistakenly believed he was got a bad medical report and
was destined to die.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
So he saw someone else's scan or something was that
or got it was.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
A horse, but one of the horses that one of
the pages had blown off.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And Graham, you approved that story, absolutely, agree, you get
to write that classic. They're going to die, but it
was actually a force, that's right.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
And they had to keep me awake. The kids had
to keep me awake.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Oh yeah, oh that's right. If he falls asleep, he's
going to die.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Oh and then Christine, uh it was it was melodies. Uh,
I'm there, I bet you can't be mean for a
whole day.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Oh you remember that episode.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Oh god, yes, and mean to everybody, Yes, what season
was that?
Speaker 6 (46:16):
That was?
Speaker 3 (46:16):
That was towards the end, that was there, and it
was and it was because here's the truth. We knew
that Christine had a very dark sense of humor, and
we thought, let's just bring that out. And it was like,
it's not easy for you to be on camera and
be mean.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
You know, so much easier when the camera's off.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Camera's off, and it's just a really after another.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Oh no, there's no one darker than me.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
But yeah, there's But to the point Christine, to your
point of the writers living with us, they knew, like
Lisa knew you, Graham knew you.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You know. It must have helped shape the characters and
the episode. Oh yeah, I mean quickly we found out
what people could do, right, Yeah, you'll be good at
like packing.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
A suitcase, packing a suitcase.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
There was an episode where Brad had too.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yes, she's teaching how to pack a suitcase properly. Yes,
do you guys remember because Kelly we talked about this
with Kelly, and Kelly didn't I remember that we had
all we didn't officially get quote canceled, but we knew the.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Fifth season was ending, and most of us were not
going to come back. Like I knew I wasn't coming back.
I think David wasn't coming back. Kelly said she would
have come back. But do you remember a couple episodes
before the end, they brought in some new characters to
potentially spin off the show. Do you remember that, David,
(47:55):
like there was a girl. There was like there were
new characters that came in as in case they wanted
to keep the show running.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Like that's what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's yes, yes, and it didn't take. I mean it
didn't take.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
They'd end up canceling the show. But I think our
our our commitment, our contracts were up, so like we
were all kind of ready to go to La and I.
But I remember them bringing in this a couple new
people to try out, a guy, a girl. It was
like if they were going to do the next chapter.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Oh my god, it didn't take.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
No, there's a podcast that I plug here all the
time that Lisa found Lisa Malamed called Yay Dude, and
it is a it is a hey dude, rewatch podcast
that they go for through every of these two super
fans two girls I think in their thirties now maybe
forty maybe early forties, if that makes sense. But they
(48:53):
they go through and they break down every single solitary
episode and and I keep saying to David, I think
Kelly and Lisa went on that episode, went on their podcast,
but I want to go on. But there there are
best people to go to for any answers, right they
would know there are people.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you guys, the fans of Hey dude,
and you have to be the right age. I guess
it's just very it's a specific demographic. They are so
passionate about the show. Like you know, I say, Nickelodeon
at the time was like snapchat, like parents aren't allowed.
We own this and it helped shape their childhood and
(49:35):
they are so attached to the show, right, Christine, I
mean it's really pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
So much, I mean obsessively, obsessively, Like I feel like
we get asked all the time, like we had our reunion,
but we get asked all the time about the conventions
like we have not sort of that's an untouched world.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
That Oh, if you guys decided to go to a convention,
just give us a haul or Oh wait, hold on,
nineties Con has invited us.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
I think we've got something.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Hey, dude, let me know, let me know. I mean,
I don't have to participate, but I'll go up and
pretend to be like a really creepy super fan.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Sign this, please, sign this, please, Belly Graham, do you
still have your jean jacket?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Do you still have your belt buckle? Do you still
have the sneakers?
Speaker 3 (50:29):
What else am I've still got the sneakers. When Dave
turned us very significant age in New York, there was
a party. I showed up wearing the sneakers. I still
have the melody are Hero Melody or whatever it was. Yes, yes,
I wore that at the reunion in Austin. Oh yes,
but I haven't. Yeah, that's it's up in a bin somewhere.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
And I found the jean jacket. I found the jean
jacket with the patches. We got patches that you could
iron on for each series. You could put them on
the art that was our our badges series one, Yeah,
season two.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
The hat, I've still got the hat somewhere. The hats
in l A. I the weirdest. The belt that was belt,
the belt shoes that was kind of weird, but okay.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Shoes the way.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
I kind of even remember them asking what's your shoe size?
Odd gift, but I don't have mine.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
I will say this, you guys. There are blooper reels
are on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Okay, Christina and I found them and or someone directed
us to them, and then you can look at who
posted it and it was Jeffrey Darby.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
But our blooper RILs, which I got to tell our listeners,
the blooper reels were incredible.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I mean I remember those at the rap parties were amazing. Yeah, okay,
I'll go down a little down the nostalgia rabbitable.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, I only want more.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
I wish there were more. There's two of them, but
they're great. They're so much fun, so much fun.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Well, you guys, Honestly, I'm so proud to have whatever
legacy we've created together and to be in it with
you guys, because we are experiencing our our audience really
loves the show and it lives on.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
And just I'm so proud to have worked with both
of you guys.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
Love you both so much, Love you guys.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Yeah, and you know, for us, it was you know,
just it was really was the beginning, and I mean
for a for Dave and me, we a friendship that
has last year. We haven't seen that much of each
other since the pandemic. But but other than that, I
mean saw each other a lot over the years and.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
Soon.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Well, I'm going to send you this nineties con in
Connecticut in March because I love to have you guys
there and it could be fun for all of us
to spend a weekend together.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
Will say this, Connie and I are still a part
of the Austin Television Festival because Caitlin and Emily came
in and said, how about a Hey dude reunion And
I said, damn you, that's so smart. Now I'm hooked
and we've just gay part of the whole festival because
that weekend was I was unbelievable. It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
That was best.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Christina and I went back last year with iHeartMedia to
promote their podcasts, and Caitlyn and Emily had us there.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Yeah, and they love you, they love you. And then
remembert Kelly couldn't show up. There was a family yeah yeah,
so they made sure that they got her in the
next year with you David on that sort of Broader
Nickelodeon panel. They're they're great, Kaitlin, Emily, I think we
could do another. Hey, dude, at some point. Graham. My
son is a freshman at ut Austin. That's right. That
(53:51):
we spend a lot of time there.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yeah, Austin's a great city. I mean, I love it,
and he's having so much fun. Good to see you.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
Thank thank you, thank you, thank you, and Dave, thank
you for overcoming the technological hell.
Speaker 5 (54:08):
I'm really sorry that you couldn't see me because I
do have all my uh my mister and surt hat
buckle shoes. I got all that, damn it. Yeah, it
would have been so good.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, we miss you, Dave Risbone really likewise.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Please biggest tugs to to all of your families, all
the kids, the dogs, everybody, the wives. Love you, guys,
love you all.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Big, big, big Happy New Year, Happy New Year. Thank you.
I want us back on. We'll get back on. Yay.
You will get into your house how you want us there,
We'll just show up.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
We do need to get together in person again for sure,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Thank you guys. By guys, how cool was that?
Speaker 4 (54:59):
I mean, I feel like I don't even know how
much I spoke because I was just smiling with joy
at how much I love these two people. And like
I said, the memories are so like it feels like
yesterday and it's been thirty plus years and it just
(55:23):
I mean, I really see them and I just always
feel like we are all forever bonded.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
You spend every day and you live together in a
hotel for a couple of years. It's yeah, it's like
there's no time has passed. I mean, Graham's still the same,
just cracking jokes.
Speaker 6 (55:39):
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
And Dave by the way to you know, the listeners
did not get to get first of all, because he
couldn't get his screen on, we didn't get to see him.
But you know, so he was chiming in on his phone,
which I'll take it because he's you know, he's got
grown kids and they're traveling, he and Laura, and I
know that he's busy in his life. But he is
(56:03):
the driest yeah has I mean, I like, the sharpest
sense of humor. I remember, like he will say something
with a straight face and you have to really look
at him and then know that it's like it is.
He is truly one of the funniest men I have
ever met in my life, and just and every year
(56:23):
like always sends me every year I get a birthday
email from Dave every year. Really since we stopped the show,
yes I should have said that, but just such a
love bug and Graham's terrific. I know, we didn't even
get to I mean, this was not going to be
the episode to get into all of their other work.
We needed to have our reunion, We needed to talk
about the show.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I called Lisa Malaman before we before this interview, just saying, like,
you have any memories, like I want to jog some
stuff for me, and like at the end of the show,
she was like, listen, Graham is one of our great
greatest screenwriters.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Like he really has become.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Like a treasure, you know, I mean, all the amazing
work he's done in Dave Brisbane was the funniest comedic
actor that I've ever worked with, And just watching him
work out a scene or work out a bit, it
just I think it taught you and I a lot
about work ethic and whatever you're doing, take do it
one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
You know, oh so much, so much, And I look
at it now and I think for you and I
who have kids who are now the age we were
when we were doing the show, you know, and like
looking at them going out in the world and the
people that they're that are influencing them now, like mentors,
and you know what I mean that I keep saying
(57:39):
to my kids, like age doesn't matter. It's like if
you meet a cool person that you're working with, and
like that will be somebody that you will be, that
will be in your life forever. Like that is and
that's really how it's felt with them. So that was
really great, and I hope we satisfied our hey dude
fan with that Part two reunion. We have so many
(58:03):
more people to get on eventually.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, maybe listen, if we do this nineties con, which
I hope we do, let's maybe do an episode from
there with everyone together.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
I know that would be really great if we If
I know, I feel like that's all in the works,
and that's where we're saying it here first and where
hopefully that that will all get confirmed soon. Yes, but
that's kind of around the corner, like that's a couple
of months away March. But I mean it, we've not
ever been really asked to do any of these conventions,
and I have so many friends and nineties in particular,
(58:36):
the nineties conventions are so huge right now because of
the work like that, all the stuff we talk about
on this podcast, the music, the work, everything, It's just
a period of time that people love to revisit.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
So just stay tuned on that.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Thank you so much for listening. Everybody, have a great
week and a happy and healthy new year.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
We'll see you next week, all right, Bye, Christine, Bye,
Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and give us
five stars
Speaker 2 (59:05):
And please follow us on Instagram at Hey Dude the
Nineties called See you next time.
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