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October 16, 2023 42 mins

Before there was "Bennifer," there was "Bope"...the soap super couple that dominated daytime television for decades.This week we chat with "Days of Our Lives" stars Kristian Alfonso and Peter Reckell who played Hope and Bo on DOOL.Did they ever date in real life? What movie star auditioned for Peter's role? Why did Kristian leave the show? And what keeps bringing them back to Salem?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Dude the Nineties Called with Christine Taylor and David Lasher.
Hi everybody, and welcome back to Hey Dude the Nineties
Called podcast. I am one of your co hosts, Christine.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
And I'm David. Hi Christine, how are you.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm good. You got a baseball cap on? I like it?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Like it.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Did you get a lot of merch when you visited Casey?

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (00:26):
Yeah, I picked the right year to start watching Texas football.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Are they great?

Speaker 5 (00:33):
I mean they were undefeated until this weekend. They beat
Alabama in Alabama, which is unheard of. They have an
amazing team, and they have this kid, arch Manning sitting
on the bench as a freshman, just watching and learning.
It's Peyton and Eli's had to have a brother was
an insane football player, but he got injured, so it's

(00:57):
his kid. Archman was the biggest high school football recruit
in like decades and he's at you.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Wow, that is cool. Yeah, I know you're in the family. Yes,
I am. I don't watch like college basketball. I watch
a lot of but not college football. But it's all,
you know, I feel like it's just it's part of
what the fall is on Saturdays, like the background noise,
and I like sports just on on all the time,

(01:25):
like if it's right, there's if there's tennis, if there's golf,
Like I just like it. I like sports. So so
that's very cool. Is Casey going to all the games?
Like does he have a crew and his I know
he's got a fraternity, but.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
His whole fraternity went to Dallas to Texas A and
M which hosted, uh this game between UT and Oklahoma
I think it was, and then yeah, anyway, I don't
want to bore our listeners, but it's been an exciting
time in Austin, Texas for my son Casey.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Very cool.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
How are you what's going on in your Well?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
We are you know, we're exactly where you were last
year with Quinn because we are in college application and
I remember you and I sitting down because we were
just about to start this podcast. It was like I
think last November we sat down and before we did
our first like promos or whatever it was, but uh,

(02:27):
and I talked to Casey and he was so in
it and I just kind of I was like, oh,
I remember it with Ella. I dread it next year
and now here we are. I can't believe it's October.
So there's some deadlines coming up. But it's surprisingly different
because a having done it before with my daughter, who
was very she steered the ship. She knew what she

(02:50):
was doing, she knew where she wanted to apply when
she she didn't want to apply early anywhere, so she
left a lot of stuff that was kind of all
piled up, Whereas where's Quinn is just kind of like
has a couple that he's applying early too. He's got
some bupplying right, Like, it's been fairly manageable, and I
almost don't want to jinx it. Like, no, it's kind

(03:11):
of feeling calm, which I'm shocked by, but maybe I
just was bracing myself for the for the worst. Oh,
and now I'm pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
I'm so glad you're taking it calmly, because it can
be very stressful. And we had the same thing where
Hannah really took care of her own stuff. Yes, and
Casey we had hired some kind of college counselor to
help him with his essays, and they were not getting along.
He wasn't doing the deadlines, he wasn't doing the work,
and she was blaming him, and he was saying he
didn't like her. I was like, all right enough, I'm

(03:41):
taking over. And I was editing essays for several months
every single night.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Isn't it amazing the jobs we as parents, Like we
have our careers, but then we've got our kids and
it's sort of like whatever they are doing, we have
to stop everything. It was like with Dylan, it was, oh, oh,
all right, we'll continue this conversation because we have uh,
we have guests in the waiting room. And this is like,
this is exciting listeners because this is a world we

(04:10):
have not explored yet on on on our podcast. It's
not only just nineties, but but the world of daytime
soap operas. I mean they date so far back, like
Ben's mom was on a Sopra soap opera like sixties,
seventies eight, Yes, she was on All My Children.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh, they're like it from the fifties, right, they're from.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
For right exactly? They so so, but but they're they're huge,
and these these these daytime stars, and they are megastars,
become iconic. They become household names, and their characters become
household names. And we have two of them today like.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Like they're honey, they're the biggest. Maybe Luke and Laura,
but these guys are right right them?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, Bo and Hope. So I think I think we
have Christian in the in the waiting room. I think
it looks like we are still still waiting on Peter.
But why don't we bring Oh they're here, they're here,
So why don't we Why don't we bring our guests
in today? Uh, the infamous Boon and Hope aka Christian

(05:18):
Alfonso and Peter Raquel.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Hey, guys, here we go.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
This is like you two are just iconic. I feel
like there's so much we want to talk about because,
like I was saying, you are our first daytime soap megastars,
Like like you guys are like I feel like our
our listeners have been like, when are you gonna have

(05:45):
soap stars on? That's like so nineties. I mean it
goes so far pre nineties obviously decades before the nineties,
but you know, not too many.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
It's not for you, not for you guys before.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, but you tell us about the sort of the origin.
Did you guys come on the show together or like
did you meet each other right from the get go?
Or one of you was on first, like, tell us
a little bit of the origin story.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Christian, you got to tell the audition story.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, take us to like how old you were, because
you're probably a baby Christian.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Christian got her job, so she okay, okay.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
So I don't even know where to start. I was
living in New York, modeling with Who was I with
at that time? I think it was.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Ford or Late I can't remember, but anyway, I was
fun out here.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
I was put in a contract with NBC because I
did this movie with Rock Hudson. Yeah, movie with Rock.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
Hutson, which was just He was the nicest, sweetest who
ended up becoming a fan of Days of Our Lives.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
We went into each other on Hamburger Hamlet. Years later.

Speaker 7 (06:58):
I was waiting for my take out after I had
left the studio and I felt this tap on my
shoulder and I turned around. It was Rock and I
was like, oh my gosh, why how are you? And
he said, just tell me is this going to happen?

Speaker 5 (07:10):
I'm like, oh my god, oh wow, that's trippy. Because
he's such a legend.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
An unbelievable legend, such a kind kind man, just amazing,
absolutely amazing, but anyway, okay, moving ahead.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
So after doing the movie, NBC had put me onto contract.
I was still living back East and the role of
Days Where Lives.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
Came up and I was like, oh no, no, I can't.
I was still in school high school.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Oh wow, it was like a freshman or sophomore, and so.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Goodness, I said no because they cast it.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
But then many years later the role came up and
I was in Los Angeles and they cast me and
moved me from New York to Los Angeles and from there.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
I was so excited. I didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
I mean, really had no clue, but was so grateful,
so thankful.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
But then they.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
Were going to be casting the role of both. So
my agents called and said, you know, they want you
to test.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not available. I'm
not here. I'm in Boston from home, I'm in New York.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
I'm anywhere but here, because I was so afraid that
if they saw me again and they realized, oh my god,
we made.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Such a count to say what were we thinking?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Imposters Christian had work at all, yet only we brought Utson. No,
I mean, on Days of Our Lives had you started.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I hadn't even started. That's why I was like, oh no, no, please,
don't pull the ruggle under me. I'm like daddy, mom,
I can't act.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
They're gonna hate me.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
What they wanted you to go to like NBC and
Burbank and test together.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
They were with Peter Pressure, who had tested.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Also, you would have had to test with like five
or six of us, because I think that's how many
were at the final test.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I was not there because I was, I know, unavailable,
But let me ask you.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
Pete was because I was just going to share with them.
Who else tested for your role? Was Tom Cruise?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay, Oh my goodness, you knew that.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
I remember Frand sat next to him on the plane
on the.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Back on the way back and somewhere, and it was
Tom and they started talking and she said she worked
on days for lives and.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
He was like, oh, I tested the role of both.
You know I never did.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Crazy story. Wow.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I loved this.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Wow, this is so great.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Good bragging rights for Peter from I could have been
using that for the last forty years. I'd bet Tom
Cruise and a networks for.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I think he did.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, we're not worried we're not great, but so so Christian.
You were unavailable, very unavailable out of town. We don't
know what city you were in country Country.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I had similar kind of making up stories because I
am during that. It took quite a while from the
original audition to the to the you know, put it
going to tape with however many of us that did
that and I and I grew a beard in that time.
And when it got to uh to doing that final audition,

(10:49):
Al said, hey, can you shape your beard?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
And I was like, no, I'm keeping it for something else.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm up for total life.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Good answer life to keep them guessing.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yes and makes them want you even more.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, for some reason it worked.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So you too, really did not meet each other until
you stepped on the set to shoot your first scene.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, we rehearsed and stuff. Yeah, back then we had
we did one show a day, and so we had
so many rehearsals in the morning and dress rehearsals and
notes and before we finally went in and so yeah,
it was I don't we didn't meet before that day, though, didn't.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
I just remember walk and go, Hi, I'm Pete and
I'm Christian.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
We're gonna work together for like four decades.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Can you even imagine like you had, must have just
had like this was just a fun new job, right.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
A fun new job. For sure.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
I was a nervous majority of the time because I
just and I think I well know, because Pete.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Was much more.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Advanced in his talents.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I'd already done. I'd done two years on as
a world Turn, so I knew a little.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Bit more about went.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
So it worked well for both of us because I
could go, hey, this is what happened.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
But the time also something that I've always admired in
Peter and my skating helped me with, and that was
the termination and going that extra mile not.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Afraid of the hard work.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
Is I can recall Pete at sunse a hour or
whether it was Studio nine in Burbank, that even after
our date was done, we'd stay and we'd go over
the next day's shop to see what we could do.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, the two of us, the two of us work
so much. Back then.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Albert actually came to me one day and said he
called me to his office and said, you guys have
worked more than any other daytime act have worked in
this amount of time, that like it was like our
first year or something. Because we were working four or
five days a week.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
And shooting an episode a day. Right, it's not easy work.
That's a lot of lines to learn.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
And yeah, and we were a huge storyline obviously for
that whole time, and which was you know, astounding for
the two of us. We just Chrish and I just
gobbled it up. Like she said, we would work all
the time, hang out, you know, hey, let's go. You know,
when we didn't do it at the studio, we go

(13:34):
to one of our houses and work things out. So
we were always always looking for for what more we
could do.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And was that you said it was a major storyline.
Did they know it was going to be a major
storyline right off the bat or did they just see
the chemistry and see how well you work together and
then they were like, this is too good.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
I don't think they I don't think they planned it.

Speaker 7 (13:59):
I think it was orchestrated really well by the producers,
the writers, the network, I mean, everybody was involved.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
And then when it started we started to take off
a little bit. Then I think they just gave.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Us more and more and more, and it was an
incredible opportunity for both of us because they were both
such fun, dynamic characters.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
That's one thing good about daytime. And you know, they
bring these characters on and you know, they the writers
and producers have that time to look and see, watch
and I and I admire the writers and producers for
doing that, and they see what you can do, and
then they take stories in that direction, like you know,

(14:39):
the direction of the two of us that we got
to do with you know, wrong side of the Tracks.
It's an old, old storyline. But yeah, and of course
you know that whole dynamic came together, you know, not
because of us, but because we had this amazing writing
that we got to got the pleasure of exploring one.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Of the things too. That kept it fun for us.

Speaker 7 (15:07):
And I think I can speak for you as well
as that I had mentioned that we.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
Werehearsed a lot, which we did.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
We wanted to make sure that it was solid so
we got out there we could have fun.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
I think that what kept it fresh for me and
knew and interesting, and I think for Pete as well,
is that we really never knew. We knew what the
lines were going to be in the dialogue, but we
never really knew.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
What else was going to take place, or how he
was going to react, which of course would make me
react in a different manner than maybe I did in
the dressing room. When we rehearsed it.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
It was never the same, it was always.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
It was always new, and the writing was so imaginative, right,
almost like almost like an animated show, like you know,
you can do anything I'm seeing here. Bo's character died
of a brain tumor in twenty fifteen and then came
back to life in a cryogenic chamber.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, that was the most that was.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
That was beyond sale.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
That was when they were doing these short amount of
shows for Peacock.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh god, right, the sort of next generation right like.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Room.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
They must have been like anything goes. If someone's died,
they're going to come back to life in a chamber
or what, you.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Know, not necessarily.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
I don't know if I mean, Pete would I don't
know if Pete would have come back if it wasn't
so cleverly told and done instead of like, oh, you've
don't somebody wandering, Because we did have that storybut it.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
One time where a character had died.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
And came back and he was just found wandering like
in the Horton Square.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I'm like, oh, crazy is.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
And nobody recognizes him.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Anybody knows it's insane.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
How I tell this, I just well, and they handled that.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
From the very beginning.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
When I died, you kind of didn't really know what happened,
and so you know, they kind of plan ahead for them.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, well take us through because I feel like you
you both had such longevity on this show, and were
there periods of time that you know that you just said,
I need to I need to go on, I need
to explore some other things, or you know whatever, just
you know, because it looks like there were some moments

(17:27):
of leaving and coming back. And I actually my first
roommate in LA, who's a very dear friend of mine,
is Martha Byrne, who was on As the World Turns
in her Like, she was on it as a teenager,
and then she left and moved to LA and that's
when we were roommates. And then you know, she kind
of moved back and they welcomed her back on the show,

(17:51):
and she had an entire new sort of you know,
a new generation of people, a new character. I mean
it's the same character, but a new storyline. And I
just feel like there's something. So it just feels like
when you found your home at a show like that
and they love you and you do need to go
off and do something, but then come back. It feels

(18:13):
from the outsider's perspective that you get welcomed back with
open arms.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, it is very much a family thing, and that's
sort of what they've been doing on the show for
the last few years.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
You see a lot of the older characters coming back.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
In and and the audience loved that because the eighties
and nineties was when you know, daytime television was huge.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
And that's one reason that I came back is because
you know, they say, hey, come on back, and this
is the kind of storyline you get to do.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
And actually, in preparation for this.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Interview, I was looking at the show and the schedule
that the actors have have and this is might blow you, alay, Christian,
so hold on.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
And the schedule they have and I'm looking, you know,
they do a bunch of shows and then they have
a couple of weeks off and they do a bunch
of shows, and I'm like, you know what, I think
I can do that.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Yeah, Hey, this is what I'll explain to you about that,
because I was there during that time.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
It's not as easy as it sounds. Now they're doing nine,
nine shows in one week, which is absolutely.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
How many pages is that?

Speaker 6 (19:37):
That's how that is showing shows. I don't know how
they're doing it.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Well, yeah, they've streamlined the shows, you know so well
that you know we don't obviously you don't see people
off of the set.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
They have very minimum sets. They have streamlined it quite
quite amazing. But for the actors, when you are working,
you're obviously bustin bust hear.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
But did you guys? Were you after the Luke and
Laura storyline?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Actually, our producer that I think is mostly responsible, Albert.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I mean al Raban, al Raban and Shelley Curtis. I
think the two of them. Shelley really, I think she
worked at gh twin Luke and Laura was so huge,
and she brought over some of that chemic not chemistry,
but the dynamics of how that worked.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
So they were so you came on the heels of them.
They saw how big this type of partnership could. Because
I was not a soap opera watcher, but everyone in
the world knew those two and when they had their wedding,
it was all over. You know, everyone in the world
knew about them, whether you watch the soap opera or not.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Right, yeah, and we were we, like you said, we
were right on the heels of that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And you you're own right, became the sort of next
chapter of that on a different show. But you know,
you hear the names Bo and Hope, and it's like
you immediately see your faces whether you were, whether you
were a Days of Our Lives fan or not, and
it's you know, to sort of sort of supersede the

(21:19):
show itself and you know, make your way into popular
culture and the entertainment world. I mean, it's it's it's
a really huge feat. And to know that you are
working as hard as you are working now is Days
of Our Lives one of the few that's left.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Days to make it to very sixtieth anniversary.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
I believe, Oh my gosh, this is the end of
their what this next spring and being the end of
the fifty ninth and then next year will be the sixteenth.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Not next year the year after.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
I think I'm not sure, but I know that they're
under contract through the sixtieth.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I auditioned for it in probably yes I did, and
I'll tell you ever, well, I'm gonna i don't know
the name of the character, but I'm going to tell
you who got the part. And I don't know that
you see us in the same realm. But Lisa Rinna.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
That was after I don't think I was there. Well,
I wasn't there when.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
That was like early nineties ish, maybe ninety three, ninety fourish.
I want to say, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Don't think Christian was there when Lisa.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
No, I was there in ninety I came back at
the end. I think I came back in March or
April or whatever of ninety four.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Okay, so this must have been before, maybe ninety because
I moved to LA in ninety one, and I remember
there was like there are a couple soap auditions. I
had auditioned in New York too. I was an East
Coast girl and I just, I mean, I could not
get a soap opera to save my life. And I
loved them and I thought, what a great job, and
it just seemed so fun and I really could. I

(23:08):
remember that. This is my ridiculous story is as a
sixteen year old from Allentown, Pennsylvania, they there was an
audition for Guiding Light and they said that you know
Edgy and I could have been. I was like, the
that was all was edgy, she's edgy, and I was
the I'm still the opposite of Edgie. And what I

(23:29):
my version of sixteen year old Allentown, Pennsylvania Christine thought
was edgy was like, I blue dry my hair straight
and I wore a jean jacket and acid washed jean jacket.
Needless to say, I did not get the part A
real badass?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
How far did you get on the audition for Days? Days?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Days? Was a days? Was an actual? Like I screen
tested because it was nerve working.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Then I would have tested with you.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
My god, see, I was probably.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Happy that was that was Robert.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Probably I'm on this interview.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
No, it was with an actor. I feel like I
would have remembered if it was you. I just but
it was so nerve wracking because it was it also
felt it felt like it's so cliche, but it felt
like Tootsie, Like I felt like, Okay, we're there and
we're in the stage with all the camera people and
I'd never screen tested for anything in my life. Yeah,

(24:35):
Lisa Renna got it. I wasn't offended. It wasn't like
it was a prototype of me who got the part.
But it was a great experience.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
It was cool.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
And the cool thing when you would go audition for
soap opera is even in New York, was you would
see the soap stuff. You guys would be walking around
like through the wherever it was, whatever studio we were in,
you'd see people and you're like, oh my god, that's
so and so's so. Anyway, I think it's amazing like that,
and you too just seem like here. Of course we

(25:07):
have asked were you ever romantically involved in real life?
Like did you guys ever have a fling? No?

Speaker 4 (25:14):
No, that's I think that's what one of the reasons
we I mean, you involved that, then you have all
this extra drama when you're going into work because you know,
couples have their issue and.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
You don't want to bring that to work and get ready. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
True, So you guys had you were clear on that,
you knew like you just had it was like you
got it was it worked for the work and then
the rest amazing. So Christian you you you mentioned earlier
and I want to bring this up, but you you
mentioned you're skating. You were a competitive figure skater.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
I was a competitive figure skater. It's just so funny
that you bring this up. Because I was doing some
purging and that house, and I was like to my husband, Honey,
what do you think should I get rid of my
ice skates?

Speaker 6 (26:05):
And was sticking up room. They're so big. He's like, yeah,
I mean, I said, well, he said, why are you
hanging on to? I said, I don't know. It's just
like all those memories got on tour. I just just
like I don't know if I could. They're still good.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
De closet and good stuff out, I.

Speaker 7 (26:27):
Know made, and you know they're just they're so heavy,
like five pounds apiece.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
These ice skates. And I was lifting them up, like god,
how did I even jump in these? It's such a
beautiful sport, gorgeous, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Spoutiful to watch. I don't know how anyone does it.
Did you start as a as a wee little girl.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Actually, my sister was figure skating. Anything she did I
wanted to do. So when she was first took dancing.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
Classes or whatever, and I was like, oh, I want
to do that, so I'd start doing it. And my
sister would quick. So then she started ice skating.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
I was like, oh, I do that.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
I just know you're you're doing dancing, she's doing I skate.
But then you quit, I'm like, oh, can I skate now?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
So that's how it all kind of started. I think
I was about eight or nine, maybe nine.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
I started late and then it ended because I had
it to bottoming accident and broke my leg in party
from the Places, which is my landing leg.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
But I don't regret anything.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Did you guys see see the episode you know, speaking
of the producers and writers using what we do. Did
you see the episodes of when Christian was skating? No,
we it was when we went to the No It's
very farm.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
We did that the remote there and we filmed yeah storyline.
Oh tied back into the prison storyline that we just
shot last year.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Right, So did it come right back? Were you able
to pull off some great, great moves?

Speaker 7 (28:04):
I had a lot of massages because I was there before,
very sore. Of course, I couldn't jump or do the
things that I used to be able to do as well.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
I don't skate anymore. No, no, I can't. I'm too
afraid to break something.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Right, I know our bodies are. It's very different now.
I recently, I think I might have said this. I
tried to do a cartwheel recently, and let me just
tell you, like I did it. I could do it,
but what it did to me it was like equilibrium
and vertigo. It was like this year my bodies.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Nothing about before. We're like, am I going to land it?
Am I gonna do it? Am I gonna be? Okay?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
And Peter you your start? You said you had been
on As the World Turns for for a couple of
years before, and had you been acting? I saw that
you you you you went to college for for yeah, yes.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Box Conservatory music, which was fun, but I had I
had a high school music teacher who was also been
doing a summer theater program and he knew I'd.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
You know, I was a guy's guy and built stuff.
And he said, hey, you want to come build the
sets on for this and I was like, oh sure.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
And then they were doing West Side Story and hey,
I want to I want to try out for this
and see.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
If you could do it. And I was like okay,
And you know what a better you get to get
in these fights and dance with pretty girls, and you
know I was hooked so.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
And it's West Side story. It's the best. Were you Tony?
Were you rid? What?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
What I've done it? I've done it what three or
four times?

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Back then it was baby John because it's writing fourteen
something and it looks like I was ten and in
high school I played Tony. And then when I first
just moved to New York, I did a dinner theater
where I played Riff and I got some amazing stories
from that.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
But yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
A musical theater again. Yeah, yeah, do you think you'd
want to keep doing it? I mean, like, we're going
to see a musical tonight, Like I live in New
York now, so buy that. Try to see everything you should?
That would be such a next chapter.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah. Singing is something. It's like a muscle. You really
have to keep it up. When I went to play
a guy, I took like a couple of months, about
six weeks to get back in shape, because you know,
it's running a marathon every night. When you're doing that,
it takes takes getting in shape, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah. We saw recently that there's a there's a limited
run of a play on Broadway called The Shark is Broken,
which is about a behind It's written by Robert shaw
Son about Jaws. It's about the behind the scenes of
the three actors, and it is so cool. It's just

(31:08):
a one act it's so great. But the guy Alex Brightman,
who's a big musical theater stready played Beetlejuice on Broadway
and School of Rock. He's playing the Richard Dreyfus character.
And he's so good in it. These guys are so good.
I can't we just love this. We're also big Jaws fans,
but he is a musical theater guy. When we talked

(31:29):
to him after the show, he said, doing this show
where I just get to talk for eighty minutes and
I'm home by ten o'clock at night to my wife
and dog, like, doing a musical is the complete opposite.
It is a marathon. It is literally like and you
have to save your voice and you have to the
way you rest. He said, this is just with such

(31:51):
a treat. But he's a really talented musical theater performer
as well. That it is. It is a it's a
lot theater. I did theater, I did high school theater,
I did musical theater, growing up and you know, not
since then, and like I'll try to sing along in

(32:12):
the car with things, and I don't have the voices,
not where it used to be, because it, like you said,
you have to you got to keep it up. But
I can carry a tune, but nobody's gonna want to
see me singing on stage at all.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
You crossed it and Fiddler on the Roof though, didn't you.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Oh my god, I'm not going to make fun of
like my Catholic school doing Fiddler on the Roof directed
by a priest. Tweet that that comes up often and David,
what about you?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Oh yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
I grew up in Scarsdale, New York, and they had
this thing called Scarsdale Summer Music Theater. It was it
was actually like a director named Nat Habib who would
come up to our high school and put on these
amazing productions. I did the Music Man, I did Good News,
I played the Prince and the King and I I
was so into musical theater. But like on the d

(33:05):
L like I would kind of you know, I was
an athlete to my friends. But yeah, I didn't really
talk about it, but I had the best time. The
camaraderie and the rehearsals. I just I loved it.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Oh so those movies that came what was that in
the nineties about the high school jock doing that?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Was you huh kind of?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
But then yeah, I started professionally acting, like in the
ninth or tenth grade, and then I did a bunch
of commercials, and then Christina and I got this show
for Nickelodeon called Hey Dude.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
It was my junior year of high school, so there
was no hiding it then.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
But uh, and you know, similarly, like you both talked
about that, the writers really would get to know you
and write hearts of you into the storylines. Are we
because we shot our show in Tucson, Arizona, like in
the middle of nowhere. The writers we all sort of
lived in a hotel and they got to know us
really well. And similarly, they would write for the things

(34:14):
we loved. Like I remember one of the characters was
a drummer and they had him be a drummer, and
they did have me sing in an episode.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
I remember they used your talents.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
They tried, yes, they tried. We were kids, but they
you know, we did our best. So so days of
our lives came back for this reboot, which was the
recent and you both came back for that.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Well, the first time I came back was to I
Was an Angel or something for two shows, and then
Christian and I came back what they called that Beyond.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Shown two two, and right after the right after that aired,
they went to Peacock.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
And so then the next time we were when we
have like twenty some odd shows that aired last spring,
that was the last time we.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Worked.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
But looking at your history, I mean, you guys have
had a history of leaving and coming back, and leaving
and coming back. So is the door I mean, you
never say never with this type of job, right.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, Well, like I was saying earlier, looks like it
looks like the kind of thing I'd like to get
back in, especially when this anniversary of the show's coming up.
It'd be great to be part of it.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I was gonna say, it feels like it's ripe for
bringing some of the manas back.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
But I think Christian's a little wiet.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Over maybe not maybe or maybe not.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Wait, Christian, there's a quote here that when you left
Days you said in the last three years is not
the days of our lives.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
That as I know it.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
So how did the show change or how did soap
operas change and what prompted that quote.

Speaker 7 (36:13):
I am one who likes to be honest as far
as the history.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
Of the characters, and I did not see that happening.
And I'm not gonna lie to in my performance or
try to sell something that did not happen. If you
went into my.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
Dressing room, you would see stacks of scripts because I
would do you remember those people? The reason I kept
those because we always have a change for many years,
a changing of the guards, writers, producers.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
So when we get.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
New producers, I mean sorry, new writers, sometimes.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
They weren't always for with the show.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
And that was one of the reasons why I had
started saving my scripts so that way I could go back,
go hey, listen, I know you want me to say X, Y,
and Z and this long monologue.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
But this never happened.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
But it's on track right exactly.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
But in tracks on this page, and this show, which
was one hundred shows ago, the audiences is going to remember.
We have a very smart audience.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So you knew the show better than any of the
new writers.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
I mean that I knew it better. I just know
what I did in character for my character and I
didn't think that that was fair.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
And there were things about you know, there were storylines
that I did not agree with and the directions that
they were taking because it was.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
Not honest off who Pope was or what she endured well.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
And ultimately, the show is for your fans. It's for
the audience, right, And you if you have fans that
have from have watched you over all of these years,
and they do they remember everything, the fans, they track
it all, you cannot let them down. It's it's right,

(38:13):
I hear you.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
They've noticed things and props in the set that are new.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, So it's a respect for the audience that I mean,
we have the days of our lives that are so passionate,
and that's something Christian and I have you know, have
been so thankful for for so many years.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
And we we always tell the story when we went
to New Orleans and it was kind of our first
time being face to face and feeling the energy of
the of the audience of days of our lives.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
And since then, you know, you've got to respect the
audience and and the ratings really show that.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
You know, if you're not respecting thing, they'll leave it, especially.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Now when they have to pay for you know, on
Peacock they have to pay all.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
About quality and the bottom line is that you are
the You are the faces that no one knows who
the writers are, no one you are. You are the
representation of what that show is, not the writers. Not
the writer who's trying to come in and spice things
up and you know, reimagine.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
About spicing it up and having their spin on it.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
No, but have it be the history, no one to
add to it. I one hundred percent understand that history.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
The history is what it is.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Well, you know, soap opera is soap opera is not
like any other form of entertainment because there are people
that watch you every single.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Day, every day.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
So there's a connection between you and your audience and
it lasts for years and years. But this, I think
it's amazing that that this one on this sounds like
the most one of the most successful jobs and creative partnership. Partnership,
you guys, so amazing and never say never, right, I mean, well,

(40:08):
either way, either.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Way, we'll see you tube it somewhere somehow and something together.
I sense it. I sense it.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
You guys.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Thank you so much. For having us.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Thanks to you, guys.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I got to say one thing before we leave, because
there's this issue with people that are in our position. Now,
there's somebody out there who's saying they're me on Facebook,
Facebook and stuff, and they we have more followers than
I do, and so a lot of fans are going
to them, you know, and they're this person is offering.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
You have to report that to Facebook, you know what.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I have done it many times, My audience has done
it many times. Facebook isn't doing it, darn things.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
So if you have a question about somebody, just go
to peterpaulrecord dot com.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
That shows you all of my stuff, Peter Paul dot com. Perfect.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Thank you for clearing that up. And you know, this
is so much, so much love and luck to both
of you. This was such a treat. Thanks for taking
the time.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
You guys are great. That's great. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
This was so fun.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I enjoyed this. Thank you so much. You guys take care.
They are so cute together, right.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's so iconic. And I was, I mean, I was
not a Days of Our Lives watcher, but and I
also wasn't a general hospital, but I knew Luke and Laura.
I knew Bowen Hope, I knew these iconic characters, and
just just that sort of relationship and friendship and professionally
and personally is just something so unique, so so unique,

(41:56):
and so it was cool. I really think that, you know,
we can't underestimate the power of our daytime soap actors
because they are in the trenches and it's it is real,
and like I said, it is a dying breed. But
this is The Days of Our Lives is a show
that has sustained for years. So so I'm really glad

(42:17):
we could we could talk to them.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Yeah, they were awesome, and I love that they're still
close and they.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
They're so funny hating each other off and say, no
that wasn't seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
But they were never they never dated, right, So it
was really.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
That was so cool, really nice. All right, Well, thanks
for joining us, and.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
We'll be back with another one very soon.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Have a great week, everybody.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and give us
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Please follow us on Instagram at Hey Dude the nineties
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