November 3, 2025 • 52 mins
It’s Hovember, girls. How are we dealing? We chat with God’s favorite transsexual, Bosco, to get the inside scoop on what it’s like to be insanely hot and newly engaged. Now that the Drag Race and All Stars legend has a fiancé, how long until she’s a suburban mom of four? And just who is this mysterious Mr. Bitches? We hear about what keeps her open relationship healthy, the personal growth of a great boob job, and the need for keeping Bosco the drag performer and Blair, the real person separate. This isn’t The Substance, after all. There isn’t going to be a Bosco the Trad Wife any time soon. The soon-to-be Mrs. Bitches has some rather unusual hobbies (one of which might even be Magic Cards).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The moment shit drives up.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Absolutely, I will be begging, I'll be sucking Terrence toes
put me back on, get me in their coach, please, Brows,
You're so hilarious, Like, yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I will absolutely do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hey girl, Happy November, Happy November.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm officially calling it. It's gonna be November even if
I don't hoe around at all.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Okay, I was wondering.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I was like, is this something that you are like
coming up with on the spot right now or is this.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Actually like a yes?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Okay, I mean I don't know if I don't know
if it's a thing, but in my head, I'm allowing space.
I'm holding space for hose in November.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So what's different from any other month? Why November because
it's cold. You're like, we don't got time for cuddle season.
It's hot season.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
We need to be in full.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah, girl, I'm just a word clear. I'm using you
for body heat.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I mean, how are you missing out? I was at
to be like, are you are you missing out on
the hookups? Is that what you're longing for right now.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
In your fall?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Okay, honestly a longing No, but you know, how I
usually come in and I'm like, oh, I'm such just like,
oh I did study things, here's me bragging about my slutness.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
All.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, that's not been the case recently. How Like Halloween
season is such a go go, go go that I
legit spent like most of October either sick or making
things or trying to make my way out of sickness
with things. There's just there was no space for howeng
(01:44):
I feel bad because there's so many guys left on Red. Really,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Though?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
You know I kind of feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Actually, Like I'm like, anytime that I'm ready for like
a hookup, I like five seconds later, I'm like, actually,
do I want to do this?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
That's kind of how it's been lately. But I think
you're right.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, it's the holidays time, like you know, I'm
trying to find me a cute little something something. But overall,
I've been good, though, I've been really good. I've just
been working a ton and one. I don't think we
never really got to like talk about because we were
so obsessed with one battle after another last episode. But
I the Jesse Smolette interview that we did, I really
(02:29):
listened to it, and I've had a couple of friends
reach out and just say like their thoughts and how
good they felt like it was. And I'm like, we
hate that it was really really good and I was
kind of shocked by I don't know. I feel like
people are still very.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Much like Jesse is this like figure that I do
not believe.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And I feel like in our conversation he I don't know,
I feel like he was really honest.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I mean that's the thing is, I think two things
can be true at once, like if we're spilling all
transparent see here, Like I think he was being really honest.
I think the way he was speaking about things was
really honest. But I do think it was like also
really honest in the way where there's like one step
of removal, where like you know that I feel like
(03:17):
people are totally valid in you know, maybe still girl
like to call a spade a spade. I loved talking
to him and it was a fantastic fucking interview. It
was probably like one of my favorite interviews we've ever had.
He's got like such great charisma. He's funny, he's chill,
he's like a good key, and he also like is
(03:41):
just like not going to come out and say what
everybody on the internet wants to want to. They want
him to say that he lied.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But my thing is, I think it's something to be
said that this person like he has he has stuck
to the same story consistently, like there hasn't been any
che there hasn't been anything. And then like, I don't
know how many people watch the Netflix documentary, but I
remember saying on here when we were briefly talking about
it before he came on, was like, if you go
(04:10):
into that documentary believing one thing, you're probably going to
continue to believe that's that one thing that you were
always like adamant about. And I think that's where the
documentary kind of does a disservice, and his participation in
it does a disservice because it was like, if I'm
not about to sit down for however long to do
this thing and like it's not clear clear at by
(04:33):
the end of this thing, then what's.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
The fucking point, right?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And I don't know, I've I went into believing that
there was some icky, some some shady stuff, and I
think the documentary does an interesting job at like showing
that what the shadiness is, but also like, yeah, there's
still too many question marks and so I can't.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I can't. I can understand, I can understand your pla.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, like for me for full transparency, Like I like,
I don't. I don't necessarily believe he was one hundred
of all the things.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
But oh, I mean you alluded to that.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, I also don't really Now some five years later,
you know, we can hold onto our trauma forever, we
can hold onto the bad things that people did in
our past or whatever. Girl, if that's what you want
to be pissed about five years from now, when like
black and brown and queer people's rights are actively getting
stripped in ways that have absolutely nothing to do with
(05:30):
whether one person like that went through all this bullshit
or not. Like, girl, pop your head out of your
ass off the internet, bitch, because Jesse Smollett.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like there's way more things that we need to be
worrying about, like this is a blip and a long
list of things that is just like, bitch, this should
not be in your top two or three if you
are really upset about this.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Also, his music fucks, so.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
He kind of I think he.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Like literally got number one on the R and B
like Apple Music Charts, Like I was like, oh girl,
I'm not worried about nothing. These folks to say he's
gonna continue to do his own thing, and that's just
what it is, and I think I'm just happy that. Yeah,
I agree with you. It was literally one of my
favorite things that we've done so far. And we not
to pat ourselves on the back, but bitch, we kind.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Of hate anyway.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I didn't no big deal where but we're just fantastic
interviewers here, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And it keeps on going. The hits keep on coming,
cuz Speedking of which we've got another interview today. Y'all
might know her formerly as the Demon Queen of Seattle, Washington,
now known worldwide as God's Favorite transsexual. And you better
believe it's fucking true. It's Bosco right next.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Iike, you know today's guest.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Honestly, they are just the definition when we say this,
they are the actual definition of what it means to
be God's favorite transsexual, you know what I mean? Like,
they just represent everything you've seen her on Drag Race
Season fourteen and then of course All Stars ten, where
she obviously made her unforgettable. Like you know mark on
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our memories, so please prepare, please say hi, you know
Bosco's here?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Hello? Ohs bitch, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Girl, you'll give it a Pumpkins latte. Oh yeah, you
are so white girl in Fall Fantasy. Oh she has
it right ready.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm like, what's the culture is not a costume, that's
that's that's who I am on the inside, Like I
am Christian girl Autumn, not Christian, but.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You do give Christian girl autumn like for real. And
I know this is like shocking to those who might
know you from your former branding as the Demon Queen,
but like literally outside of drag you are one hundred
percent horse girl down.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, I feel like I'm like sexiest girl at youth group.
Is like really what I'm giving honestly?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Ding ding ding that feels right on.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean like I would have wanted to meet you
as summer camp and I had my first kiss.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh, I would have been a sickening camp counselor.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I would have let like, you can drink, but just like,
don't be crazy, don't be great, don't be catshew. I
know you have it, but like if I don't see
it, it doesn't count. I think i'd be a really fun
camp counselor.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You would, but you would also be like that camp
counselor who totally like gets some like obnoxious ass little
kid kicked out of camp, like you're you're caught smoking
cigarettes or something, and they're like, actually it was it
was Timmy.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's my cigarette butts in the back, and they're just like,
who does this blog do? Like I think I thought
Timmy doing that? For sure, I'm not taking the ball
for it. I need the money.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well, the gag is not only can we add some
counselor on your resume, but we also can add fiance
to your resume?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Can grit bright to be Wait, I can't see that.
Raw called it up. Yeah, to be a suburban mom.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Before I know, I'm in my domestic era and it's
kind of thickening.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm kind of living for it.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Did you ever imagine in your little queerouse life that
you would become like this domestic queer No?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I really really didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And I have to say it's feeling like a lot
more chic and cool and natural.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now that I'm doing it. The people was kind of boring.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
When I do it, it's really cool and like countercultural.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I didn't even like want to really get married until
I turned about thirty, and then something is just like
I don't know if I want to say boyfriend for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm like, I think I need husband.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I think I need something with like some teeth in it,
and it just it's something kind of flipped and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know what, let's get the law involved.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Absolutely, let's let's make this official one hundred because they're
doing us so good right now.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So I'm not saying so you kind of got over
the idea of like saying boyfriend constantly?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Is it because you're just bored?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Like does saying boyfriend when this person that you're dating
actually feels more than that?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Does it just get boring after a while saying boyfriend?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
What's if it's boring? For me? It just like felt
like it wasn't a first pejorative.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Interesting, Okay, It's sometimes it just feels like a little
like juvenile at times. I'm just like I don't want
to be like in my fifties being like this is
my boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Like I feel like at a certain point I'm like, no, like,
boyfriend's not quite enough. Partner sounds like scientific. Oh, it's
so like witness protection. It was like what I am
here for?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
See?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, you know what's wild about that is like I
feel like maybe it is just something about being in
your thirty ish era though, because I'm pretty sure like
when my husband and I started having these talks it
was because we were approaching thirty and I was like,
oh my god, I'm so annoyed with my grandma and
my friends and these people asking me if I'm still
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like seeing that dick or whatever. Be like, oh yeah,
how's that dude? Are you still with them? I'm like, oh,
you mean this person? So I get you on feeling
that like boyfriend isn't isn't strong enough? But you know
what the sick part is, girl, Now that I've been
married for a couple of years, I got horny thinking
about like having a boyfriend again. I'm like, ooh, I
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just yeah, this is my husband, boyfriend my boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh absolutely no.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Half the reason like, okay, so I need to upgrade
Blake to husband. That way, there's a hierarchy for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That I'm seeing.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They're like a there's like a built in just like, Okay,
so you're not the husband, so you know where you
fall in live.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Actually legit the wait So do you are you and
Blake open?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Then?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Have we been open for years?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah? Yeah, well probably like we're seeing like we're probably
gonna focus on each other for like a little bit
or I don't even know, Like I don't think anything's
really really changed.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We've been open for like three four years something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, but do y'all practice it sounds like you practice
that kind of openness where you have like other partners.
Is that a thing or is it just like, yeah,
we fuck and then sometimes we have crushes?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
What is it a poly cule?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't think it's quite partner. No.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Blake has been very much not Polly, and I'm not
Polly either with the way that our relationship works. But
I'm also like not like a one night stand type
of diva, Like I like to build a connection with somebody.
I like to like have some sort of connection. I
guess it's the best word with it.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So what you're saying is you've got lovers.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Sometimes I do like the position lovers. I think that's fun.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I mean, I just feel like that's gonna look the
best in your diary, you know, like, oh today, my lover.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I know, I think that goes great for the biography
for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
For sure, did figuring out those boundaries, and I guess
I was figuring out those boundaries with Blake. Did that
come over time, especially as you shot into like public life,
Like how much of a transition was that? Especially keeping
those like all right, whoever you're hooking up with, please
(13:21):
don't embarrass me. That's me am I LEO can be
like you can hook on with everybody whoever you want to,
but don't be out here embarrassing me.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, for sure, Like I when I originally started dating Blake,
and when I asked Blake out, I was just like, hey,
this is not applying right now. But I just know
that at some point, if you want to stay with me,
that we will have to be open in some sort
of situation because I love to flirt, I love talking
to other people, and like, I don't want to be
put in a position where I fuck up and cheat
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on you, Like I just want this to be like
an understanding, like this is how it's going to work
with me, because that's how I am, and Blake's very
much similar. Like Blake honestly has a lot more lovers
than I do. He's mister bitches.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
He for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It's all over and I think that's he's mister bitches exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
He has that tattooed on him.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh that's gonna be like in our vows at the wedding,
I now pronounce you mister and missus bitches.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's just like always been something that's been part of
the relationship. And then especially when I went on the road,
I'm like, this is very important for us because I'm
gone months out of the year. You don't have to
I don't want him suffering here. I don't want him
to feel weird. If he wants to talk to somebody
or build a connection with somebody, I want to have
the freedom to do so on the road as well,
because it gets very lowly.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
On the road.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
So we're we're just like kind of Seattle vanilla is
what I like to call it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Like it's this is that's just.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Like kind of the norm here for a lot of
queers in Seattle, and we're we're definitely stereotypical Seattle life
in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh my god. That's actually really beautiful to find out that, like,
in general, even though you do have this like position
as a sort of an an alt drag artist, you
are just a basic bitch when it comes to Seattle.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I am I'm like the mainstream girl in Seattle. They're like, like,
I know, I always have been.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like Whenever I go anywhere else in like the world,
they're like, oh, all girl, But in Seattle, I am
like the most Disney Channel original movie girl.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Here, They're like, okay, oh viral lighte like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The other girls are like staple and shit to themselves
on brunch, and I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna get naked.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Honestly, I do feel like that that very much like
encompasses this difference between sort of like your public persona
and and your your private who you are. I'm a
little bit curious. Do you ever feel like some boundaries
are crossed or that people don't have a good separation
between the idea of boss and Blair.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I think people are like usually pretty respectful.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And also I can't complain too much because as my
persona I sell sacks like as it's a hyper sexual
persona that's who I am on stage.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's like part of like the comedy that I do.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
It all kind of comes back together into that, So
it's like, how am I gonna get mad at people
for sexualizing me when that's what I'm literally asking them
to do.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Occasionally it does get a little intense, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I like the whole two sides of the same coin situation,
where like my public persona is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Not who I am off stage at all.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
They're very, very different, So it's very easy for me
to compartmentalize somebody, like sexualizing Bosco versus sexualizing Blair.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, that's so interesting because I would imagine that. I
just often feel like I remember you being on season fourteen,
and then of course when Blair came and she was
always there, but she blossomed even more. It felt like
people were describing that time, especially seeing you on All
Stars ten, like describing you as having like a glow
(17:10):
up of some sorts, which could be looked at like, yes,
but also you did. It's not like you came from
the guther like you were always So I wonder how
you view that when you're seeing fans talk about you
in that way and using that language glowed up.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I would agree with them, Like, I think I started
at a pretty good point. I worked really really hard
and like had a really good handle on my craft
the first time I went and did like the whole show.
But I am somebody who like isn't very happy if
I'm like stagnant in like my art form and as
a person. So I was very very like happy that
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people had seen like the amount of work that I
put into myself and my craft and like, oh, she's
gotten better. She was good the first time, but now
she's fucking killing it. And that's exactly what I wanted
people to say.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Did you get better? Did you just get really hot?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think a little bit of both, exactly. Yeah, for sure,
for sure, I think getting hotter really helps.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This is gonna be something crazy to uncover for everybody
who doesn't love this, But being hotter h makes.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Things a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It makes it so much easier when people are attracted
to you. Oh, let's just say that, you're like.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Wow, Suddenly I found all of my confidence, talent, like
the chrismal uniqueness, nerve whatever really.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Lacked inside myself, and found myself worth by getting really
nice tits.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Thank you so much for sharing that key to life.
I really appreciate it took. It took a lot of
courage and bravery.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm very brave.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Okay, So I know you've talked about touring.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I've like, I was doing a little research and I've
I read that you've talked about touring. Wasn't like often
your favorite thing to do. I guess what type of
ways do you like to connect with fans in maybe
a similar way or maybe not, but like what type
of creative life?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I guess are you craving instead?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I do like touring. I just also I need like
a mix and match. I can't do the same thing
and only do that. I'm like very Gemini, where like
I need like a mix of things to feel like
say shaded.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
If I get bored, I just.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Immediately like like just like should I kill myself?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Like I legit?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Girl?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
That is so fucking real. That was like me after
doing two solid months of Drag Race Live, and I
was like, is this the end of my life right here?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm just like I think it's over.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean two months feels like it literally feels
like groundhogs. They like it's just like you're waking up
doing the same exact.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well, especially because like you're you're reliving through something that
is honestly one of the like fiercest moments in your life,
Like drag race is so fierce but also complete trauma,
just like waking up every morning. Baby, I made it.
I'm back in the workroom again.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I made it.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
O Oh I lost again a prison of some sorts.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, no, Like, I like got done filming All Stars,
tend the first bracket situation, and then went back to
RuPaul Dreger's Live, and I'm just like losing a dude, like.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
While also pretending like you're not on the show.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, I mean, but that's the weird thing about it, is,
like is that just what they do with the bitches?
After we film in All Stars, they're like, hey, right
after you're done, do you want to go to Vegas
and sing about losing?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, at that point, I didn't know I had lost yet,
so that was out the first one. So I'm just like,
maybe this doesn't apply to me. Maybe I'm one of
the special girls that they wanted to pretend.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Oh my god, you out here being like I don't
even know, I don't know my character.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
This part.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Because I made I made it like this doesn't apply
to me, losers, it did?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It did apply to me.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, I'm I'm actually a little bit curious because, you know,
we talked a little bit about how stagnation is very difficult.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I just like need to be doing something, even if
it's getting worse. I need to be getting you know,
so I.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Need to be moving. Doesn't matter which way, gotta be moving.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Gotta be going somewhere. But I'm curious, like, do you
feel like your drag has evolved with your gender journey?
Do you consider these like separate, separate parts of yourself
that are, you know, growing older, getting more material?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Oh I know, I'm like older.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, just any anywhere I can look for, just
like a quick wow.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I think one influences the other and vice versa. I
feel like when I was first doing drag, I needed
drag to satiate a part of like my gender euphoria,
Like Bosco needed to exist for me to feel happy
outside of drag. And since I've been able to do
a lot of work on Blair outside of Bosco, I
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am just a lot happier. I don't need Bosco to
fulfill certain part of like my psyche anymore. So Bosco
has a lot more leeway to play. Bosco can be
a bit more clownish, Bosco can be a little bit
more silly.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Bosco can get X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, because I already get femininity, I already get womanhood.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Outside of Bosco.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So I think unpairing those two things kind of unchained
Bosco to go a little bit further, to like really
lean into the shtick of it all. I feel like
as I get older, Bosco becomes more and more showbiz,
Like that is like a that is that is the character,
that is the al Vira, that is the said, that
the someone who like, that's who that is now and
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I don't need that to be part of my day
to day life, and so she can be built up more.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, it's like such such a trip because I was
just reflecting on how in the last couple of years
my Drag actually has gotten its own separate character, Like
my stage voice is all.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Down here, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Where I was like in my everyday life, I don't
talk at all. So I do think it's interesting to
see how once you unpair the things you needed from
Drag originally where you see it grows. So I guess
the follow up question is what is your favorite thing
that you've kind of allowed Bosco to bloom into? What's
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your favorite thing that Bosco has has gotten as like
this outlet, because you don't just have to be a
hot bitch anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I think Bosco is allowed to be a little bit
more sticky now, Like I felt for a long time
that Bosco had to be. Bosco's a reflection of who
I am and who the audience like saw as me
outside of Bosco. So I'm just like, oh, I can't
say that. That's not complex, that's not how I necessarily think.
I'm just like, oh, well, Bosco can be a little.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Bit more one dimensional than Blair is.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Bosco just exists on stage, so like it's okay for
me to just kind of lean into like, yeah, hot
tranny bitch.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's that's fine for her.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That's not necessarily what Player's doing all the time, but
that is exactly what Bosco's doing all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I also love hearing hearing you talk about, like in
reflecting of your time on drag Race, because you sound
like someone like a queen that fully was prepared to
have this sort of platform and like take it and make.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
It what you wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Have you been strategic in your like public career, like
building Basco as this like entity and brand.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I think so we're it's definitely a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Like when I stepped on the scene from like the
First Break in like season fourteen, I had an idea
of what I wanted Bosco to be, but I didn't
have like the phones or the tools to really cement
who she was. This time around, I'm like, oh, I've
toured a lot, I've done a lot of shows. I've
met like the older girls, I've worked with a lot
of like my heroes and inspirations.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I've taken pieces.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
From them, and like, oh, I understand a little bit
more of like how to package, how to sell, and
how to embody what I want Bosco out of it.
I like, I understand what the audience sees in me
and sees from Fosco and how to like streamline that.
So I think we've gotten a lot better, and I
feel like I've figured out what it is that I'm
selling and what it is that people want to see
from me. So we're working on like shows, we're working
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on my own like producing my own like tours and
producing my own parties and working on like nerdy little
like horror things, working on magic the gathering, which is
my new passion, and having fun with that.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Like see what I mean? She is Christian girl on
I don't want.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
To hear shits.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Like conjuring of demons on the regular like place, which
why why didn't you go to Dragula instead?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
To my next question? But like why, I.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Just you're such a like holloween spooky girl. Why why
didn't why go drag Race and not Dragon?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Kind of limiting to only be spooky for me?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like I can do spooky really well, and I could
always have like a like a vampiness to my drag
but like I feel like Bosco's pretty all terrain and
can handle whatever scenario that she has to do. And
then I also think the platform of drag Race is
a more stable one to like build a career off of.
You just have a bigger audience and I am greedy
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so I really wanted more. And then yeah, I also
like am not in a fear factor, Like I just
don't think like.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You're like I don't need roaches in my mouth? Please?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, I think Dragula highlights really really fantastic Greg queens
at what they do. I don't necessarily do what they do.
And there's also not a lot of room for comedy,
which is kind of my secret weapon, and drag Race
has a lot of room to harness comedy. In fact,
I think of drag Race, every single challenge is secretly
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a comedy. If you can make me all laugh, you
will even if you suck at something, if you are
making her laugh, you will make it to the next spot.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Girl. The way, I've been telling that to these bitches
when they send me their auditions, They're like, hey, can
you help me out with my tape? And I'm like,
all right, dieva, So first things first, be funny. Yeah,
no one cares about your looks, bitch. Like number one,
it won't matter. They're not going to be on the show.
You're gonna have to spend like three homes worth of money, and.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
We're like eighty seasons in.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Like at this point, if you are trying to go
into like drag Race, you should know, like that's the
key that everyone continues to bring up, like be stupid,
be a clown, like lean into that in a really
thoughtful and like smart way and honey, you might make
it to the end, you know, like that. It just
feels like if you don't get that, then like should
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you be auditioning?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, because somebody has to go home first.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Like I'm like so sorry, Like I don't think everybody
should be good at drag Race.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's that's how somebody wins.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You just said we're not protecting all queer art. Uh
uh no, no, see, Okay, there's this thing.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I know I've already talked about it on the pot before,
but like whenever a new season of drag Race comes out,
Doug and I will watch it, like at least the
first episode, and he'll get really emotional for the girl
who goes home. He'll be like, oh, I just can't imagine,
like how hard that must have been. All of her
friends helped her make all of her things and you know,
so much love. And I'm like, yeah, I just don't
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have that much empathy because I wouldn't never have been
bad enough to go home first.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, we can't we can't do
all that. We can't do that. Near and dear Sister,
I read dubois. I read the alien that.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Was a risky mistake. I mean, yeah, this second time.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It was a risky move, and I am so happy
she came back and got shown what she can't do,
because I'm like, I read one of the best rag
queens I've ever met, and the risk backfired the first time,
but then she got to come back and just like, Okay,
that's the Irene I've known.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
But even with that, the tea that I'm saying is
I wouldn't never have gone home first because even if
I did the first in the first challenge, you're not
sending me home and a lip sync and.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I knew that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Oh I stand by my cold bitter ho fuck the
pork chop is yeah, just kidding. Sisters, You're all great
and you deserve second chances. I can't wait for Drag
Race All Stars pork Jobs. Who was your pork chop?
My pork chop was unmentionable? Was oh yeah a shot
of Komboocha. Yeah, the culture forgot about her.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
It's kind of crazy how you can literally just be like, oh, yeah,
that person did exist.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Which is kind of a trip because she was actually
like one of the only bitches I knew on my season.
She was like a big social media deal.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Too.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Okay, well, that actually kind of brings me into my
next question because it's my least favorite question to get
asked in interviews. Great, oh my godhead, So would you
go by for Drag Race? Would you go back for
All the Stars if they asked you for next year?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I would never do All Stars again unless they called
and asked me. But the best time is always to
be on TV is always like right now. I don't
think I would go back anytime super soon, just because
it's such an investment emotionally, financially, physically, and just like
with your time, and I really set my sights on
(30:29):
doing everything that I needed to do this time to
get as much as I can out of it. I
want to like maximize my time on the show, and
I think I did so. I think I'm going to
keep on running with this way for as long as
it will let me.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And then the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Shit drives up, absolutely I will be begging, I will
be sucking therence toes put me back on, put me in,
please please.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Ross, You're so hilarious.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I will absolutely do whatever it takes to keep this
career moving for as long as I can.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Better go down the line and suck all those.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Days as you should.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Absolutely, Michelle. I love the way you sneeze exactly, like
we're just.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
For those of you who don't know, it sounds like death.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Michelle sneezes without moving her face when she's like all
like done because she doesn't want to move anything because
it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
It's like so well done. So she's screat.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Just frozen.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's and I think that's beautiful, thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Does the financial piece actually hurt drag Race like having
to prepare for it like financially like does that take
away the magic of preparing for such a huge moment?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I well, the magic is not experienced by the people
who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The magic is for the viewer.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And then, like as you said, like IVI said, it's
like a very fierce experience and like it's the highest
highs and the lowest lows you're ever going to feel
in your entire life.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I mean those packages though, are like girls are spending
damn near like how like like houses, they're buying houses
in their like drag Race like package, And so I'm like,
is that really need it?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Like please?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Necessarily? I don't. I think there should always be room
for people who don't want to spend that kind of money. Yeah,
and like, I think there's ways to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I am not talented in craftsmanship or fabricating, so I'm
not going to be one of those girls to do it.
But I just look at it as like a pageant, like, yeah,
the continental girls are spending fucking coin to do what
they're doing as well, and you're like, that's just part
of what you're signing up to do. Like you want
to represent yourself the best you can, and if you
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have the ability to do so, you're gonna spend some
coin to do it. Or if you have the ability
to make things do that. I know, like girls like
a carri of like travels with like a sewing with
a sewing machine in her so with the full sewing
machine because she's like, oh do you need something? Like
she did Lady Camden show. What is it, uh, peach
(33:09):
Pit Cabaret. I can't remember the name of her show,
but she did it and Lady Campton's like, hey, can
you join us for like the finale number we're just
doing Lady Marmelette and curious like, yeah, I have some
fabric with me?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Is what color is? Everybody wearing, and she just like
whipped up a costume the night before to wear for
the production number.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
And I'm like, it's legendary.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
She is legitimately the most insane like and she just
does this. She travels with a sewing machine. She's like, Oh,
I guess I'm just gonna strip my curtains from the
hotel room and then come out in like the most
cunty catsuit with like a head piece on top. You're like, girls,
shut the fuck up, go win. Drag Race already incredible.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Direg We one of my favorite drag queens. That's my girlfriend.
She's so hot. She's so hot. I love her.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
She really is, she really is. I'm I have to say,
I always really love getting to hang out with you,
to tour with you, because you have this very different
energy from a lot of drag queens. You're You're a
lot more chill and reserved in ways, in ways like
you're not screaming for attention. You're more like Daria, where
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you're gonna say something like cutting and funny and sly,
and then people are gonna be like, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I love No.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I've always loved touring with you as well. Like I
love a chill drag queen. I love like most types
of drag queens, but like there has to be like
a balance, and like I'm a very much like chill
goes to work, does her job type of drag queen
when I'm on tour. And then I also love like
party girls and like I love having fun and like
I think you and me always click when we're on
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tour because we can like match each other's energies.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Well, you suffer for the last time, bitch o. What
happened the last time? Which one the last time.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I got to, like for real, for real work with
you was when we were doing the Asia tour and
I know y'all bitches were burnt out, Like I know
you hosts were touring around world, but uh, like we
were touring around in Asia, and like I remember, one
of the last days I was there on tour, you
and Mistress were listening to the most god awful pull
(35:13):
my eyes out YouTube shows about like Ponzi schemes.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, Mistress was doing research on how to set up
our Patreon.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I just I would I would like to publicly say
I have absolutely no regrets about yelling at you guys,
and I would like to thank you for being able
to take that craziness without capturing it on video and
making me look insane for the face.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Okay, so why did you yell?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Because these bitches are taking up like all the space
in the room, Like there's there's like one room where
we're all getting ready and they're like, do you mind
if we play something on the speaker, And usually when
drag queens do that, it means terrible drag music.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I was not part. I was just sitting next to her.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
You were encouraging, so you were like me, this was not.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
The one that put on the True Crimes podcast. I
was just sitting next to her. Were you just said
you're vampy?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
You were sitting there feeding off of the energy when
I went because I did yell at mistress. It was
sleep mistrace.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Is I think the stop before we were all sharing
a dressing room and then we ended up screaming at
Aquaria because she told us to be quiet, and then
we made her.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
We did. We did, that's right, was like, I just
need you guys to be quiet.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I love you, Aqua, I love you, I love you.
She we we we went.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And like when like went around Japan the next day,
but we got into It was one of the only
times me and Aquaria's ever just been at each other.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
This is the tea I like to hear about when
I'm saying the bitches were clearly burnt out on this tour.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
I forgot that the day before. Aquaria literally expected a
room full of drag queens to not make noise.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
But I know, eating you were you tell me a
little bit about this, because it was like, y'all are
in Asia and nobody wants to go explore like outside,
Like everyone just wants to stay in the hotel. And
I'm like, is that for real? Like y'all to go
and be I guess cringe tourists.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh I went out.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I went out several days in Tokyo while we were there,
and then I went out to the night markets in TYPEI.
I think I spent one day sleeping in TYPEI because
I was really tired, but I spent one day exploring.
And then I definitely explored in Singapore because I went
to the hanging gardens. But oh, it was we were
definitely very tired. That was like the second leg of
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the tour.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Evie, There's so much more to the story.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
But everybody was pretty grumpy. Everybody's pretty grumpy.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
There is now so much more. I'm so sorry. I
just refused to get there's so much more when they're like, oh, yeah,
you guys could take a day trip to the village
that a lot of people say inspired spirited away. You
could go be on a fuck mountain, petting cats with
the Buddha or some shit and mistresses in her hotel
room having like her fiftieth McDonald's meal of the tour, Like, please,
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I will not. I'm just I'm just saying, once in
a lifetime experiences like you could have gotten a wheelchair, bitch,
we're drag queens. I did it for a whole tour.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Do you remember the tour where we rented a cabin?
It was you, me, Willow and Lady Campton. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Actually that's one of my favorite experiences, favorite tour experiences too. Yeah,
because Willow sister Sauce all of y'all into being mushroom people.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
She was like, yeah, it's gonna be fun. I was like,
Sister Sauce means like one.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Of them camp's first time ever doing mushrooms. Yeah, like
a pool.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
And then Evie took enough mushrooms to see God. There's
about two hours of her crying and pretending to be
a dinosaur, walking around the cabin, just stalking before she
came back in.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I don't remember that part. I remember lots of staring
at the.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Sky, my God, and that could blow a high too,
like I love a good shribs.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
And for clarification, because sister sauce, sister sauce is like
a term some of these some of these queens in
Denver who used to go by like the House of
I don't remember, but like they came up with this
term about sister saucing, which is like when you're girlfriends
with your sisters, you're like, yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
My god, here girl, do a bump, do a bunch
of drugs, take a shot.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
So sister saucing has evolved to be not only like
feeding your sister drugs or drink or whatever, but it's gaslighting,
gaslighting forcing, but it's out of love. It's not gaslighting
is toxic. Sister sauce is positive.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Well, the sister sauce in the way that I was
thinking about it could totally still be positive. I just
felt like there was a lot of things and liquids.
I was like, oh, work, love that for you. I
hope you had a great time.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
And there was a round two, right, I hope there
is some day I'd sister sauce Willow into that.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Hit me down. I don't think it'd take a lot
of sauce from Willow.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
We asked all of our guests, like a question that
we ask every episode, what are you hikey about right now?
Speaker 5 (40:20):
It can literally be anything.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
You'd be a.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Feeling, an emotion. You can call out something. What do
you hikey about?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
We're pretty hikey about this. That's pretty Uh, that's pretty hikey.
And then I'm also I've just been playing a lot
of Magic the Gathering and fucking bad.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I'm really into it. That's what I spent like all
of my free time on.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I've been spending money on it when I'm on like
when I'm on the plane, like I'm just like creating
like new decks like I do.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I don't care. I'm really hikey about magic.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
The gap not you out like grabbing dollars in the club,
like this is going towards magic, bitch.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Just magic cards now, I get like tipped in magic cards,
like boxes of cards for the meet and greet.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
No, it's sickening, it's soapussy.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Okay, well you heard if Bosco's high key about magic,
keep her addiction fed.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
You should play, you should get into it.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Okay, wait, so is this like a game like a
Dungeons and Dragons sort of game.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Explained to me what this game is.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
It's made by the same people that makes Dungeons and Dragons,
and it's like a card game.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yes, it's like do you remember Yu gi Oh? Yes,
it's a lot like Yu gi Oh.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah, it's like yu gi Oh. But you also have
to have a little bit of imagination and like friends.
Do you need friends for magic?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, for most part. The format that I play is
a four person format. Okay, so you need a few
friends or at least like a social gathering night. And yeah,
it's fun. It's not like role playing or anything like that.
It's like building like little machines of cards that do
particular and pissing off all of your friends.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
It's very fun.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
I love that for you. I'm a bug you in January,
even though I know you're avoiding all queer people. I'll start,
I'll grab a beard, you know, I'll come and drags
so I can entertain mister bitches or whatever. But we
should play, imagine to play.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Oh my god, thank you so much for being on
this show.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
You're so fucking fabulous, Like you're literally the girl that
you know you are, because honestly, yeah, it's so.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Rude to find somebody who's worth everything that they tell
you they are.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I have you so well fooled. Thank you, Thank you
so much. I really appreciate y'all taking the time to
talk to me. I appreciate the fact that one of
Evie's pillows is the exact color of my shirt.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I can't stop looking at it this entire time.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, that's Oh what did you get the Movie and
TV Award for the Popcorn ev.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I got it for being a part of the cast
of Drag Race. What's yours?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Minus for best fight with Lady can did.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
So?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Bosco Saltine final answer.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't want to fick you over, but at the
same time, I'm standing my ground and I got the
majority vote. You know what, you.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Better turn this out, and if you don't, I'm gonna
be pissed because I wanted that part.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
That was my opportunity to start my ground and be strong.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
But I just feel ready disappointed in myself that I
let myself get pushed over. You can remind me five thousand.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Dollars this is bullshit.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
I deserve.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I need MTV. I deserve retroactive awards for all the
fighting I did on season eleven.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I need her presented to Bosco.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Can you read that?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Y'all better chair yoursels awards because MTV is no longer
a thing, but a chair is that ship?
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I know, just like drag Race, probably not.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Bosco.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Get the fuck out of here, go ride a horse.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Okay, I love you. It's nice of you too.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Hike Ah, We're back. Oh my god, love Bosco down Love.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
She's everything. She's everything. It's so funny because, like I know,
drag queens in general are confident, but she's got this
very specific type of like piercing, like like chill, casual,
bad bitchness where you wouldn't expect her to be anything
but what she is, and she's not. She is what
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she is.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, Like literally, anytime I think of her, I just
I think of the moment in Princess Diary when Anne
Hathaway's character and they do the picture of her before
and her after, and I was like, wait, first of all,
she was always hot, but also like please, she's everything.
She's just it's she's everything that I wanted anymore. So
love her so much. And let's talk about our hig keys.
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What are you ii key about?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Hell?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Yes, okay, So this is gonna be really vague for
some of y'all, but I am hi key about music.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Wow, Abroad, I would say, super Okay, Okay, I'll row,
I'll narrow it down.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Okay. The reason I'm hikey about music right now is
I just released a new single with with High Life
called miss Messy Boots, miss Messi Boots, missus gvous, Missy
says say she too devous, It's stay crazy. It was
super fun to make, and I recorded another track with
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a couple of rappers I really like. I'm I've started
putting together other like pieces for.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Maybe another new project with another rapper I like.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So just know, as vaguely as possible, I'm musking at you.
It's coming. You're all about to get so much music.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I gotta say, I feel like you have been talking
about like you've been working on music. So it's really
nice to like start seeing it come out. Are you
like happy that you're now starting to put it out?
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, it's funny because it just like is such a
long process, at least for me. I know it doesn't
have to be, but I'll like legit spend a month
like writing writing a wrap, like I'll write it out,
and then for the next month I'll spend time like
going through saying it in my head, like like getting
really comfortable with it, changing things around, being like, ohly, no,
(46:50):
actually this punch is better. And that's like before I
ever even hit record. And then after you do that,
it's just like you know, it has to go to
a mixer and yeah in the producer yeah yeah, And
then I think the hardest part about it is like
trying to figure out like what it needs to be
(47:10):
in the world. That's why I've like just doing all
of these collabs because I want to make music, but
I'm like not trying to put together a serious album
every time. Yeah, and go into the studio. So hikey
about music, hikey about Miss Messy Boots, go check it out,
hikey about more on the way Ryan, what are you
hikey about?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Oh, my god, I am hikey. One shout out to that.
I'm hikey about that. But I'm also hikey about this
new show that I'm watching that I watched I binged
it all Big Boys.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Hi, I'm Jack.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
This was me in twenty thirteen, a closet with mummy's boy,
with a newly dead dad and a crap perm. When
I got into UNI, it was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Well, because the best three years. If you like glasses up,
I'm not swearing that, Danny, Yes, you go to visit.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
It's literally so good. There's three seasons. I'm late to
the the program. But Big Boys is like this British
television show and it's about these two college students, one gay,
one straight, and they're both male, and it's like a biography,
like a semi biography of his life in his college years,
because the main character is like coming out and also
(48:16):
like experiencing college and his best friend, who was his roommates,
is like dealing with like major depression issues and you
know in the story that he's telling is like his
friend doesn't make it at the end. This is not
a spoiler, it's just what the story is. But you
see it leaning up to that all three seasons, and
it's just such good television and such good queer storytelling.
(48:40):
Like I literally they're they're like half hour shows and
they're just so good.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Everyone should go watch Big Boys. It's so good. It's
on Hulu, so if you got it, check it out.
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
I'm down to just like watch all all the gay
shit I can before they strip it away from us.
I know.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
I mean it's like happening.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I mean I'm watching right now, I'm watching Boots on
Netflix too, which is another gay story. So I'm like, yeah,
it's just not a lot, and it's like if it is,
it's like a blimp, you know, like it just feels
like you're right. Yeah, it's disappointing, but you know, I'm
taking advantage of the ones that I love.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
I feel like that is our directive. Then y'all go out,
let's let's let's catch these these queer things. Let's support
queer films and queer stories and queer shows. Go make
sure you watch Big Boys on Hulu. And I guess Ryan,
you and I are gonna have to talk about Boots
sometimes because I'm supposed to start it this weekend.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
I'm kind of having a hard time getting through it,
but whatever, listen.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
It was recommended to me by somebody whose taste I
don't know if I trust yet, so I'm there with you.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
That's so okay. Well, this is a great episode. I'm
I'm happy that we that Mosco was on fucking finally.
Oh my god, it feels like we needed this to happen.
Make sure to follow us on all the things at
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Speaker 5 (50:40):
Please all right, bye, y'all.
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The moment shit drives up.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Absolutely, I will be begging, I'll be sucking Terrence toes
put me back on, get me in their coach, please, Brows,
You're so hilarious, Like, yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I will absolutely do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hey girl, Happy November, Happy November.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm officially calling it. It's gonna be November even if
I don't hoe around at all.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Okay, I was wondering.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I was like, is this something that you are like
coming up with on the spot right now or is this.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Actually like a yes?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Okay, I mean I don't know if I don't know
if it's a thing, but in my head, I'm allowing space.
I'm holding space for hose in November.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So what's different from any other month? Why November because
it's cold. You're like, we don't got time for cuddle season.
It's hot season.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
We need to be in full.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah, girl, I'm just a word clear. I'm using you
for body heat.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I mean, how are you missing out? I was at
to be like, are you are you missing out on
the hookups? Is that what you're longing for right now.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
In your fall?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Okay, honestly a longing No, but you know, how I
usually come in and I'm like, oh, I'm such just like,
oh I did study things, here's me bragging about my slutness.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
All.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, that's not been the case recently. How Like Halloween
season is such a go go, go go that I
legit spent like most of October either sick or making
things or trying to make my way out of sickness
with things. There's just there was no space for howeng
(01:44):
I feel bad because there's so many guys left on Red. Really,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Though?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
You know I kind of feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Actually, Like I'm like, anytime that I'm ready for like
a hookup, I like five seconds later, I'm like, actually,
do I want to do this?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
That's kind of how it's been lately. But I think
you're right.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, it's the holidays time, like you know, I'm
trying to find me a cute little something something. But overall,
I've been good, though, I've been really good. I've just
been working a ton and one. I don't think we
never really got to like talk about because we were
so obsessed with one battle after another last episode. But
I the Jesse Smolette interview that we did, I really
(02:29):
listened to it, and I've had a couple of friends
reach out and just say like their thoughts and how
good they felt like it was. And I'm like, we
hate that it was really really good and I was
kind of shocked by I don't know. I feel like
people are still very.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Much like Jesse is this like figure that I do
not believe.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And I feel like in our conversation he I don't know,
I feel like he was really honest.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I mean that's the thing is, I think two things
can be true at once, like if we're spilling all
transparent see here, Like I think he was being really honest.
I think the way he was speaking about things was
really honest. But I do think it was like also
really honest in the way where there's like one step
of removal, where like you know that I feel like
(03:17):
people are totally valid in you know, maybe still girl
like to call a spade a spade. I loved talking
to him and it was a fantastic fucking interview. It
was probably like one of my favorite interviews we've ever had.
He's got like such great charisma. He's funny, he's chill,
he's like a good key, and he also like is
(03:41):
just like not going to come out and say what
everybody on the internet wants to want to. They want
him to say that he lied.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But my thing is, I think it's something to be
said that this person like he has he has stuck
to the same story consistently, like there hasn't been any
che there hasn't been anything. And then like, I don't
know how many people watch the Netflix documentary, but I
remember saying on here when we were briefly talking about
it before he came on, was like, if you go
(04:10):
into that documentary believing one thing, you're probably going to
continue to believe that's that one thing that you were
always like adamant about. And I think that's where the
documentary kind of does a disservice, and his participation in
it does a disservice because it was like, if I'm
not about to sit down for however long to do
this thing and like it's not clear clear at by
(04:33):
the end of this thing, then what's.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
The fucking point, right?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And I don't know, I've I went into believing that
there was some icky, some some shady stuff, and I
think the documentary does an interesting job at like showing
that what the shadiness is, but also like, yeah, there's
still too many question marks and so I can't.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I can't. I can understand, I can understand your pla.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, like for me for full transparency, Like I like,
I don't. I don't necessarily believe he was one hundred
of all the things.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
But oh, I mean you alluded to that.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, I also don't really Now some five years later,
you know, we can hold onto our trauma forever, we
can hold onto the bad things that people did in
our past or whatever. Girl, if that's what you want
to be pissed about five years from now, when like
black and brown and queer people's rights are actively getting
stripped in ways that have absolutely nothing to do with
(05:30):
whether one person like that went through all this bullshit
or not. Like, girl, pop your head out of your
ass off the internet, bitch, because Jesse Smollett.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like there's way more things that we need to be
worrying about, like this is a blip and a long
list of things that is just like, bitch, this should
not be in your top two or three if you
are really upset about this.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Also, his music fucks, so.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
He kind of I think he.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Like literally got number one on the R and B
like Apple Music Charts, Like I was like, oh girl,
I'm not worried about nothing. These folks to say he's
gonna continue to do his own thing, and that's just
what it is, and I think I'm just happy that. Yeah,
I agree with you. It was literally one of my
favorite things that we've done so far. And we not
to pat ourselves on the back, but bitch, we kind.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Of hate anyway.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I didn't no big deal where but we're just fantastic
interviewers here, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And it keeps on going. The hits keep on coming,
cuz Speedking of which we've got another interview today. Y'all
might know her formerly as the Demon Queen of Seattle, Washington,
now known worldwide as God's Favorite transsexual. And you better
believe it's fucking true. It's Bosco right next.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Iike, you know today's guest.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Honestly, they are just the definition when we say this,
they are the actual definition of what it means to
be God's favorite transsexual, you know what I mean? Like,
they just represent everything you've seen her on Drag Race
Season fourteen and then of course All Stars ten, where
she obviously made her unforgettable. Like you know mark on
(07:21):
our memories, so please prepare, please say hi, you know
Bosco's here?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Hello? Ohs bitch, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Girl, you'll give it a Pumpkins latte. Oh yeah, you
are so white girl in Fall Fantasy. Oh she has
it right ready.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm like, what's the culture is not a costume, that's
that's that's who I am on the inside, Like I
am Christian girl Autumn, not Christian, but.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You do give Christian girl autumn like for real. And
I know this is like shocking to those who might
know you from your former branding as the Demon Queen,
but like literally outside of drag you are one hundred
percent horse girl down.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, I feel like I'm like sexiest girl at youth group.
Is like really what I'm giving honestly?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Ding ding ding that feels right on.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean like I would have wanted to meet you
as summer camp and I had my first kiss.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh, I would have been a sickening camp counselor.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I would have let like, you can drink, but just like,
don't be crazy, don't be great, don't be catshew. I
know you have it, but like if I don't see
it, it doesn't count. I think i'd be a really fun
camp counselor.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You would, but you would also be like that camp
counselor who totally like gets some like obnoxious ass little
kid kicked out of camp, like you're you're caught smoking
cigarettes or something, and they're like, actually it was it
was Timmy.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's my cigarette butts in the back, and they're just like,
who does this blog do? Like I think I thought
Timmy doing that? For sure, I'm not taking the ball
for it. I need the money.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well, the gag is not only can we add some
counselor on your resume, but we also can add fiance
to your resume?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Can grit bright to be Wait, I can't see that.
Raw called it up. Yeah, to be a suburban mom.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Before I know, I'm in my domestic era and it's
kind of thickening.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm kind of living for it.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Did you ever imagine in your little queerouse life that
you would become like this domestic queer No?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I really really didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And I have to say it's feeling like a lot
more chic and cool and natural.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now that I'm doing it. The people was kind of boring.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
When I do it, it's really cool and like countercultural.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I didn't even like want to really get married until
I turned about thirty, and then something is just like
I don't know if I want to say boyfriend for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm like, I think I need husband.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I think I need something with like some teeth in it,
and it just it's something kind of flipped and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know what, let's get the law involved.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Absolutely, let's let's make this official one hundred because they're
doing us so good right now.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So I'm not saying so you kind of got over
the idea of like saying boyfriend constantly?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Is it because you're just bored?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Like does saying boyfriend when this person that you're dating
actually feels more than that?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Does it just get boring after a while saying boyfriend?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
What's if it's boring? For me? It just like felt
like it wasn't a first pejorative.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Interesting, Okay, It's sometimes it just feels like a little
like juvenile at times. I'm just like I don't want
to be like in my fifties being like this is
my boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Like I feel like at a certain point I'm like, no, like,
boyfriend's not quite enough. Partner sounds like scientific. Oh, it's
so like witness protection. It was like what I am
here for?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
See?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, you know what's wild about that is like I
feel like maybe it is just something about being in
your thirty ish era though, because I'm pretty sure like
when my husband and I started having these talks it
was because we were approaching thirty and I was like,
oh my god, I'm so annoyed with my grandma and
my friends and these people asking me if I'm still
(11:10):
like seeing that dick or whatever. Be like, oh yeah,
how's that dude? Are you still with them? I'm like, oh,
you mean this person? So I get you on feeling
that like boyfriend isn't isn't strong enough? But you know
what the sick part is, girl, Now that I've been
married for a couple of years, I got horny thinking
about like having a boyfriend again. I'm like, ooh, I
(11:31):
just yeah, this is my husband, boyfriend my boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh absolutely no.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Half the reason like, okay, so I need to upgrade
Blake to husband. That way, there's a hierarchy for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That I'm seeing.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They're like a there's like a built in just like, Okay,
so you're not the husband, so you know where you
fall in live.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Actually legit the wait So do you are you and
Blake open?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Then?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Have we been open for years?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah? Yeah, well probably like we're seeing like we're probably
gonna focus on each other for like a little bit
or I don't even know, Like I don't think anything's
really really changed.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We've been open for like three four years something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, but do y'all practice it sounds like you practice
that kind of openness where you have like other partners.
Is that a thing or is it just like, yeah,
we fuck and then sometimes we have crushes?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
What is it a poly cule?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't think it's quite partner. No.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Blake has been very much not Polly, and I'm not
Polly either with the way that our relationship works. But
I'm also like not like a one night stand type
of diva, Like I like to build a connection with somebody.
I like to like have some sort of connection. I
guess it's the best word with it.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So what you're saying is you've got lovers.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Sometimes I do like the position lovers. I think that's fun.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I mean, I just feel like that's gonna look the
best in your diary, you know, like, oh today, my lover.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I know, I think that goes great for the biography
for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
For sure, did figuring out those boundaries, and I guess
I was figuring out those boundaries with Blake. Did that
come over time, especially as you shot into like public life,
Like how much of a transition was that? Especially keeping
those like all right, whoever you're hooking up with, please
(13:21):
don't embarrass me. That's me am I LEO can be
like you can hook on with everybody whoever you want to,
but don't be out here embarrassing me.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, for sure, Like I when I originally started dating Blake,
and when I asked Blake out, I was just like, hey,
this is not applying right now. But I just know
that at some point, if you want to stay with me,
that we will have to be open in some sort
of situation because I love to flirt, I love talking
to other people, and like, I don't want to be
put in a position where I fuck up and cheat
(13:53):
on you, Like I just want this to be like
an understanding, like this is how it's going to work
with me, because that's how I am, and Blake's very
much similar. Like Blake honestly has a lot more lovers
than I do. He's mister bitches.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
He for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It's all over and I think that's he's mister bitches exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
He has that tattooed on him.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh that's gonna be like in our vows at the wedding,
I now pronounce you mister and missus bitches.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's just like always been something that's been part of
the relationship. And then especially when I went on the road,
I'm like, this is very important for us because I'm
gone months out of the year. You don't have to
I don't want him suffering here. I don't want him
to feel weird. If he wants to talk to somebody
or build a connection with somebody, I want to have
the freedom to do so on the road as well,
because it gets very lowly.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
On the road.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
So we're we're just like kind of Seattle vanilla is
what I like to call it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Like it's this is that's just.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Like kind of the norm here for a lot of
queers in Seattle, and we're we're definitely stereotypical Seattle life
in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh my god. That's actually really beautiful to find out that, like,
in general, even though you do have this like position
as a sort of an an alt drag artist, you
are just a basic bitch when it comes to Seattle.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I am I'm like the mainstream girl in Seattle. They're like, like,
I know, I always have been.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like Whenever I go anywhere else in like the world,
they're like, oh, all girl, But in Seattle, I am
like the most Disney Channel original movie girl.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Here, They're like, okay, oh viral lighte like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The other girls are like staple and shit to themselves
on brunch, and I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna get naked.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Honestly, I do feel like that that very much like
encompasses this difference between sort of like your public persona
and and your your private who you are. I'm a
little bit curious. Do you ever feel like some boundaries
are crossed or that people don't have a good separation
between the idea of boss and Blair.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I think people are like usually pretty respectful.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And also I can't complain too much because as my
persona I sell sacks like as it's a hyper sexual
persona that's who I am on stage.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's like part of like the comedy that I do.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
It all kind of comes back together into that, So
it's like, how am I gonna get mad at people
for sexualizing me when that's what I'm literally asking them
to do.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Occasionally it does get a little intense, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I like the whole two sides of the same coin situation,
where like my public persona is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Not who I am off stage at all.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
They're very, very different, So it's very easy for me
to compartmentalize somebody, like sexualizing Bosco versus sexualizing Blair.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, that's so interesting because I would imagine that. I
just often feel like I remember you being on season fourteen,
and then of course when Blair came and she was
always there, but she blossomed even more. It felt like
people were describing that time, especially seeing you on All
Stars ten, like describing you as having like a glow
(17:10):
up of some sorts, which could be looked at like, yes,
but also you did. It's not like you came from
the guther like you were always So I wonder how
you view that when you're seeing fans talk about you
in that way and using that language glowed up.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I would agree with them, Like, I think I started
at a pretty good point. I worked really really hard
and like had a really good handle on my craft
the first time I went and did like the whole show.
But I am somebody who like isn't very happy if
I'm like stagnant in like my art form and as
a person. So I was very very like happy that
(17:48):
people had seen like the amount of work that I
put into myself and my craft and like, oh, she's
gotten better. She was good the first time, but now
she's fucking killing it. And that's exactly what I wanted
people to say.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Did you get better? Did you just get really hot?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think a little bit of both, exactly. Yeah, for sure,
for sure, I think getting hotter really helps.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This is gonna be something crazy to uncover for everybody
who doesn't love this, But being hotter h makes.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Things a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It makes it so much easier when people are attracted
to you. Oh, let's just say that, you're like.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Wow, Suddenly I found all of my confidence, talent, like
the chrismal uniqueness, nerve whatever really.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Lacked inside myself, and found myself worth by getting really
nice tits.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Thank you so much for sharing that key to life.
I really appreciate it took. It took a lot of
courage and bravery.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm very brave.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Okay, So I know you've talked about touring.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I've like, I was doing a little research and I've
I read that you've talked about touring. Wasn't like often
your favorite thing to do. I guess what type of
ways do you like to connect with fans in maybe
a similar way or maybe not, but like what type
of creative life?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I guess are you craving instead?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I do like touring. I just also I need like
a mix and match. I can't do the same thing
and only do that. I'm like very Gemini, where like
I need like a mix of things to feel like
say shaded.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
If I get bored, I just.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Immediately like like just like should I kill myself?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Like I legit?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Girl?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
That is so fucking real. That was like me after
doing two solid months of Drag Race Live, and I
was like, is this the end of my life right here?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm just like I think it's over.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean two months feels like it literally feels
like groundhogs. They like it's just like you're waking up
doing the same exact.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well, especially because like you're you're reliving through something that
is honestly one of the like fiercest moments in your life,
Like drag race is so fierce but also complete trauma,
just like waking up every morning. Baby, I made it.
I'm back in the workroom again.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I made it.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
O Oh I lost again a prison of some sorts.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, no, Like, I like got done filming All Stars,
tend the first bracket situation, and then went back to
RuPaul Dreger's Live, and I'm just like losing a dude, like.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
While also pretending like you're not on the show.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, I mean, but that's the weird thing about it, is,
like is that just what they do with the bitches?
After we film in All Stars, they're like, hey, right
after you're done, do you want to go to Vegas
and sing about losing?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, at that point, I didn't know I had lost yet,
so that was out the first one. So I'm just like,
maybe this doesn't apply to me. Maybe I'm one of
the special girls that they wanted to pretend.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Oh my god, you out here being like I don't
even know, I don't know my character.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
This part.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Because I made I made it like this doesn't apply
to me, losers, it did?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It did apply to me.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, I'm I'm actually a little bit curious because, you know,
we talked a little bit about how stagnation is very difficult.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I just like need to be doing something, even if
it's getting worse. I need to be getting you know,
so I.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Need to be moving. Doesn't matter which way, gotta be moving.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Gotta be going somewhere. But I'm curious, like, do you
feel like your drag has evolved with your gender journey?
Do you consider these like separate, separate parts of yourself
that are, you know, growing older, getting more material?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Oh I know, I'm like older.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, just any anywhere I can look for, just
like a quick wow.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I think one influences the other and vice versa. I
feel like when I was first doing drag, I needed
drag to satiate a part of like my gender euphoria,
Like Bosco needed to exist for me to feel happy
outside of drag. And since I've been able to do
a lot of work on Blair outside of Bosco, I
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am just a lot happier. I don't need Bosco to
fulfill certain part of like my psyche anymore. So Bosco
has a lot more leeway to play. Bosco can be
a bit more clownish, Bosco can be a little bit
more silly.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Bosco can get X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, because I already get femininity, I already get womanhood.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Outside of Bosco.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So I think unpairing those two things kind of unchained
Bosco to go a little bit further, to like really
lean into the shtick of it all. I feel like
as I get older, Bosco becomes more and more showbiz,
Like that is like a that is that is the character,
that is the al Vira, that is the said, that
the someone who like, that's who that is now and
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I don't need that to be part of my day
to day life, and so she can be built up more.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, it's like such such a trip because I was
just reflecting on how in the last couple of years
my Drag actually has gotten its own separate character, Like
my stage voice is all.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Down here, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Where I was like in my everyday life, I don't
talk at all. So I do think it's interesting to
see how once you unpair the things you needed from
Drag originally where you see it grows. So I guess
the follow up question is what is your favorite thing
that you've kind of allowed Bosco to bloom into? What's
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your favorite thing that Bosco has has gotten as like
this outlet, because you don't just have to be a
hot bitch anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I think Bosco is allowed to be a little bit
more sticky now, Like I felt for a long time
that Bosco had to be. Bosco's a reflection of who
I am and who the audience like saw as me
outside of Bosco. So I'm just like, oh, I can't
say that. That's not complex, that's not how I necessarily think.
I'm just like, oh, well, Bosco can be a little.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Bit more one dimensional than Blair is.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Bosco just exists on stage, so like it's okay for
me to just kind of lean into like, yeah, hot
tranny bitch.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's that's fine for her.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That's not necessarily what Player's doing all the time, but
that is exactly what Bosco's doing all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I also love hearing hearing you talk about, like in
reflecting of your time on drag Race, because you sound
like someone like a queen that fully was prepared to
have this sort of platform and like take it and make.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
It what you wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Have you been strategic in your like public career, like
building Basco as this like entity and brand.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I think so we're it's definitely a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Like when I stepped on the scene from like the
First Break in like season fourteen, I had an idea
of what I wanted Bosco to be, but I didn't
have like the phones or the tools to really cement
who she was. This time around, I'm like, oh, I've
toured a lot, I've done a lot of shows. I've
met like the older girls, I've worked with a lot
of like my heroes and inspirations.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I've taken pieces.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
From them, and like, oh, I understand a little bit
more of like how to package, how to sell, and
how to embody what I want Bosco out of it.
I like, I understand what the audience sees in me
and sees from Fosco and how to like streamline that.
So I think we've gotten a lot better, and I
feel like I've figured out what it is that I'm
selling and what it is that people want to see
from me. So we're working on like shows, we're working
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on my own like producing my own like tours and
producing my own parties and working on like nerdy little
like horror things, working on magic the gathering, which is
my new passion, and having fun with that.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Like see what I mean? She is Christian girl on
I don't want.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
To hear shits.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Like conjuring of demons on the regular like place, which
why why didn't you go to Dragula instead?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
To my next question? But like why, I.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Just you're such a like holloween spooky girl. Why why
didn't why go drag Race and not Dragon?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Kind of limiting to only be spooky for me?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like I can do spooky really well, and I could
always have like a like a vampiness to my drag
but like I feel like Bosco's pretty all terrain and
can handle whatever scenario that she has to do. And
then I also think the platform of drag Race is
a more stable one to like build a career off of.
You just have a bigger audience and I am greedy
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so I really wanted more. And then yeah, I also
like am not in a fear factor, Like I just
don't think like.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You're like I don't need roaches in my mouth? Please?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, I think Dragula highlights really really fantastic Greg queens
at what they do. I don't necessarily do what they do.
And there's also not a lot of room for comedy,
which is kind of my secret weapon, and drag Race
has a lot of room to harness comedy. In fact,
I think of drag Race, every single challenge is secretly
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a comedy. If you can make me all laugh, you
will even if you suck at something, if you are
making her laugh, you will make it to the next spot.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Girl. The way, I've been telling that to these bitches
when they send me their auditions, They're like, hey, can
you help me out with my tape? And I'm like,
all right, dieva, So first things first, be funny. Yeah,
no one cares about your looks, bitch. Like number one,
it won't matter. They're not going to be on the show.
You're gonna have to spend like three homes worth of money, and.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
We're like eighty seasons in.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Like at this point, if you are trying to go
into like drag Race, you should know, like that's the
key that everyone continues to bring up, like be stupid,
be a clown, like lean into that in a really
thoughtful and like smart way and honey, you might make
it to the end, you know, like that. It just
feels like if you don't get that, then like should
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you be auditioning?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, because somebody has to go home first.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Like I'm like so sorry, Like I don't think everybody
should be good at drag Race.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's that's how somebody wins.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You just said we're not protecting all queer art. Uh
uh no, no, see, Okay, there's this thing.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I know I've already talked about it on the pot before,
but like whenever a new season of drag Race comes out,
Doug and I will watch it, like at least the
first episode, and he'll get really emotional for the girl
who goes home. He'll be like, oh, I just can't imagine,
like how hard that must have been. All of her
friends helped her make all of her things and you know,
so much love. And I'm like, yeah, I just don't
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have that much empathy because I wouldn't never have been
bad enough to go home first.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, we can't we can't do
all that. We can't do that. Near and dear Sister,
I read dubois. I read the alien that.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Was a risky mistake. I mean, yeah, this second time.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It was a risky move, and I am so happy
she came back and got shown what she can't do,
because I'm like, I read one of the best rag
queens I've ever met, and the risk backfired the first time,
but then she got to come back and just like, Okay,
that's the Irene I've known.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
But even with that, the tea that I'm saying is
I wouldn't never have gone home first because even if
I did the first in the first challenge, you're not
sending me home and a lip sync and.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I knew that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Oh I stand by my cold bitter ho fuck the
pork chop is yeah, just kidding. Sisters, You're all great
and you deserve second chances. I can't wait for Drag
Race All Stars pork Jobs. Who was your pork chop?
My pork chop was unmentionable? Was oh yeah a shot
of Komboocha. Yeah, the culture forgot about her.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
It's kind of crazy how you can literally just be like, oh, yeah,
that person did exist.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Which is kind of a trip because she was actually
like one of the only bitches I knew on my season.
She was like a big social media deal.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Too.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Okay, well, that actually kind of brings me into my
next question because it's my least favorite question to get
asked in interviews. Great, oh my godhead, So would you
go by for Drag Race? Would you go back for
All the Stars if they asked you for next year?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I would never do All Stars again unless they called
and asked me. But the best time is always to
be on TV is always like right now. I don't
think I would go back anytime super soon, just because
it's such an investment emotionally, financially, physically, and just like
with your time, and I really set my sights on
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doing everything that I needed to do this time to
get as much as I can out of it. I
want to like maximize my time on the show, and
I think I did so. I think I'm going to
keep on running with this way for as long as
it will let me.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And then the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Shit drives up, absolutely I will be begging, I will
be sucking therence toes put me back on, put me in,
please please.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Ross, You're so hilarious.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I will absolutely do whatever it takes to keep this
career moving for as long as I can.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Better go down the line and suck all those.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Days as you should.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Absolutely, Michelle. I love the way you sneeze exactly, like
we're just.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
For those of you who don't know, it sounds like death.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Michelle sneezes without moving her face when she's like all
like done because she doesn't want to move anything because
it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
It's like so well done. So she's screat.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Just frozen.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's and I think that's beautiful, thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Does the financial piece actually hurt drag Race like having
to prepare for it like financially like does that take
away the magic of preparing for such a huge moment?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I well, the magic is not experienced by the people
who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The magic is for the viewer.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And then, like as you said, like IVI said, it's
like a very fierce experience and like it's the highest
highs and the lowest lows you're ever going to feel
in your entire life.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I mean those packages though, are like girls are spending
damn near like how like like houses, they're buying houses
in their like drag Race like package, And so I'm like,
is that really need it?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Like please?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Necessarily? I don't. I think there should always be room
for people who don't want to spend that kind of money. Yeah,
and like, I think there's ways to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I am not talented in craftsmanship or fabricating, so I'm
not going to be one of those girls to do it.
But I just look at it as like a pageant, like, yeah,
the continental girls are spending fucking coin to do what
they're doing as well, and you're like, that's just part
of what you're signing up to do. Like you want
to represent yourself the best you can, and if you
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have the ability to do so, you're gonna spend some
coin to do it. Or if you have the ability
to make things do that. I know, like girls like
a carri of like travels with like a sewing with
a sewing machine in her so with the full sewing
machine because she's like, oh do you need something? Like
she did Lady Camden show. What is it, uh, peach
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Pit Cabaret. I can't remember the name of her show,
but she did it and Lady Campton's like, hey, can
you join us for like the finale number we're just
doing Lady Marmelette and curious like, yeah, I have some
fabric with me?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Is what color is? Everybody wearing, and she just like
whipped up a costume the night before to wear for
the production number.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
And I'm like, it's legendary.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
She is legitimately the most insane like and she just
does this. She travels with a sewing machine. She's like, Oh,
I guess I'm just gonna strip my curtains from the
hotel room and then come out in like the most
cunty catsuit with like a head piece on top. You're like, girls,
shut the fuck up, go win. Drag Race already incredible.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Direg We one of my favorite drag queens. That's my girlfriend.
She's so hot. She's so hot. I love her.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
She really is, she really is. I'm I have to say,
I always really love getting to hang out with you,
to tour with you, because you have this very different
energy from a lot of drag queens. You're You're a
lot more chill and reserved in ways, in ways like
you're not screaming for attention. You're more like Daria, where
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you're gonna say something like cutting and funny and sly,
and then people are gonna be like, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I love No.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I've always loved touring with you as well. Like I
love a chill drag queen. I love like most types
of drag queens, but like there has to be like
a balance, and like I'm a very much like chill
goes to work, does her job type of drag queen
when I'm on tour. And then I also love like
party girls and like I love having fun and like
I think you and me always click when we're on
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tour because we can like match each other's energies.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Well, you suffer for the last time, bitch o. What
happened the last time? Which one the last time.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I got to, like for real, for real work with
you was when we were doing the Asia tour and
I know y'all bitches were burnt out, Like I know
you hosts were touring around world, but uh, like we
were touring around in Asia, and like I remember, one
of the last days I was there on tour, you
and Mistress were listening to the most god awful pull
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my eyes out YouTube shows about like Ponzi schemes.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, Mistress was doing research on how to set up
our Patreon.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I just I would I would like to publicly say
I have absolutely no regrets about yelling at you guys,
and I would like to thank you for being able
to take that craziness without capturing it on video and
making me look insane for the face.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Okay, so why did you yell?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Because these bitches are taking up like all the space
in the room, Like there's there's like one room where
we're all getting ready and they're like, do you mind
if we play something on the speaker, And usually when
drag queens do that, it means terrible drag music.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I was not part. I was just sitting next to her.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
You were encouraging, so you were like me, this was not.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
The one that put on the True Crimes podcast. I
was just sitting next to her. Were you just said
you're vampy?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
You were sitting there feeding off of the energy when
I went because I did yell at mistress. It was
sleep mistrace.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Is I think the stop before we were all sharing
a dressing room and then we ended up screaming at
Aquaria because she told us to be quiet, and then
we made her.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
We did. We did, that's right, was like, I just
need you guys to be quiet.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I love you, Aqua, I love you, I love you.
She we we we went.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And like when like went around Japan the next day,
but we got into It was one of the only
times me and Aquaria's ever just been at each other.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
This is the tea I like to hear about when
I'm saying the bitches were clearly burnt out on this tour.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
I forgot that the day before. Aquaria literally expected a
room full of drag queens to not make noise.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
But I know, eating you were you tell me a
little bit about this, because it was like, y'all are
in Asia and nobody wants to go explore like outside,
Like everyone just wants to stay in the hotel. And
I'm like, is that for real? Like y'all to go
and be I guess cringe tourists.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh I went out.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I went out several days in Tokyo while we were there,
and then I went out to the night markets in TYPEI.
I think I spent one day sleeping in TYPEI because
I was really tired, but I spent one day exploring.
And then I definitely explored in Singapore because I went
to the hanging gardens. But oh, it was we were
definitely very tired. That was like the second leg of
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the tour.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Evie, There's so much more to the story.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
But everybody was pretty grumpy. Everybody's pretty grumpy.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
There is now so much more. I'm so sorry. I
just refused to get there's so much more when they're like, oh, yeah,
you guys could take a day trip to the village
that a lot of people say inspired spirited away. You
could go be on a fuck mountain, petting cats with
the Buddha or some shit and mistresses in her hotel
room having like her fiftieth McDonald's meal of the tour, Like, please,
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I will not. I'm just I'm just saying, once in
a lifetime experiences like you could have gotten a wheelchair, bitch,
we're drag queens. I did it for a whole tour.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Do you remember the tour where we rented a cabin?
It was you, me, Willow and Lady Campton. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Actually that's one of my favorite experiences, favorite tour experiences too. Yeah,
because Willow sister Sauce all of y'all into being mushroom people.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
She was like, yeah, it's gonna be fun. I was like,
Sister Sauce means like one.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Of them camp's first time ever doing mushrooms. Yeah, like
a pool.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
And then Evie took enough mushrooms to see God. There's
about two hours of her crying and pretending to be
a dinosaur, walking around the cabin, just stalking before she
came back in.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I don't remember that part. I remember lots of staring
at the.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Sky, my God, and that could blow a high too,
like I love a good shribs.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
And for clarification, because sister sauce, sister sauce is like
a term some of these some of these queens in
Denver who used to go by like the House of
I don't remember, but like they came up with this
term about sister saucing, which is like when you're girlfriends
with your sisters, you're like, yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
My god, here girl, do a bump, do a bunch
of drugs, take a shot.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
So sister saucing has evolved to be not only like
feeding your sister drugs or drink or whatever, but it's gaslighting,
gaslighting forcing, but it's out of love. It's not gaslighting
is toxic. Sister sauce is positive.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Well, the sister sauce in the way that I was
thinking about it could totally still be positive. I just
felt like there was a lot of things and liquids.
I was like, oh, work, love that for you. I
hope you had a great time.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
And there was a round two, right, I hope there
is some day I'd sister sauce Willow into that.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Hit me down. I don't think it'd take a lot
of sauce from Willow.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
We asked all of our guests, like a question that
we ask every episode, what are you hikey about right now?
Speaker 5 (40:20):
It can literally be anything.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
You'd be a.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Feeling, an emotion. You can call out something. What do
you hikey about?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
We're pretty hikey about this. That's pretty Uh, that's pretty hikey.
And then I'm also I've just been playing a lot
of Magic the Gathering and fucking bad.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I'm really into it. That's what I spent like all
of my free time on.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I've been spending money on it when I'm on like
when I'm on the plane, like I'm just like creating
like new decks like I do.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I don't care. I'm really hikey about magic.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
The gap not you out like grabbing dollars in the club,
like this is going towards magic, bitch.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Just magic cards now, I get like tipped in magic cards,
like boxes of cards for the meet and greet.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
No, it's sickening, it's soapussy.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Okay, well you heard if Bosco's high key about magic,
keep her addiction fed.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
You should play, you should get into it.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Okay, wait, so is this like a game like a
Dungeons and Dragons sort of game.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Explained to me what this game is.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
It's made by the same people that makes Dungeons and Dragons,
and it's like a card game.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yes, it's like do you remember Yu gi Oh? Yes,
it's a lot like Yu gi Oh.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah, it's like yu gi Oh. But you also have
to have a little bit of imagination and like friends.
Do you need friends for magic?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, for most part. The format that I play is
a four person format. Okay, so you need a few
friends or at least like a social gathering night. And yeah,
it's fun. It's not like role playing or anything like that.
It's like building like little machines of cards that do
particular and pissing off all of your friends.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
It's very fun.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
I love that for you. I'm a bug you in January,
even though I know you're avoiding all queer people. I'll start,
I'll grab a beard, you know, I'll come and drags
so I can entertain mister bitches or whatever. But we
should play, imagine to play.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Oh my god, thank you so much for being on
this show.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
You're so fucking fabulous, Like you're literally the girl that
you know you are, because honestly, yeah, it's so.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Rude to find somebody who's worth everything that they tell
you they are.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I have you so well fooled. Thank you, Thank you
so much. I really appreciate y'all taking the time to
talk to me. I appreciate the fact that one of
Evie's pillows is the exact color of my shirt.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I can't stop looking at it this entire time.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, that's Oh what did you get the Movie and
TV Award for the Popcorn ev.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I got it for being a part of the cast
of Drag Race. What's yours?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Minus for best fight with Lady can did.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
So?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Bosco Saltine final answer.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't want to fick you over, but at the
same time, I'm standing my ground and I got the
majority vote. You know what, you.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Better turn this out, and if you don't, I'm gonna
be pissed because I wanted that part.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
That was my opportunity to start my ground and be strong.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
But I just feel ready disappointed in myself that I
let myself get pushed over. You can remind me five thousand.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Dollars this is bullshit.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
I deserve.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I need MTV. I deserve retroactive awards for all the
fighting I did on season eleven.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I need her presented to Bosco.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Can you read that?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Y'all better chair yoursels awards because MTV is no longer
a thing, but a chair is that ship?
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I know, just like drag Race, probably not.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Bosco.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Get the fuck out of here, go ride a horse.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Okay, I love you. It's nice of you too.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Hike Ah, We're back. Oh my god, love Bosco down Love.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
She's everything. She's everything. It's so funny because, like I know,
drag queens in general are confident, but she's got this
very specific type of like piercing, like like chill, casual,
bad bitchness where you wouldn't expect her to be anything
but what she is, and she's not. She is what
(44:54):
she is.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, Like literally, anytime I think of her, I just
I think of the moment in Princess Diary when Anne
Hathaway's character and they do the picture of her before
and her after, and I was like, wait, first of all,
she was always hot, but also like please, she's everything.
She's just it's she's everything that I wanted anymore. So
love her so much. And let's talk about our hig keys.
(45:16):
What are you ii key about?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Hell?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Yes, okay, So this is gonna be really vague for
some of y'all, but I am hi key about music.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Wow, Abroad, I would say, super Okay, Okay, I'll row,
I'll narrow it down.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Okay. The reason I'm hikey about music right now is
I just released a new single with with High Life
called miss Messy Boots, miss Messi Boots, missus gvous, Missy
says say she too devous, It's stay crazy. It was
super fun to make, and I recorded another track with
(45:55):
a couple of rappers I really like. I'm I've started
putting together other like pieces for.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Maybe another new project with another rapper I like.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So just know, as vaguely as possible, I'm musking at you.
It's coming. You're all about to get so much music.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I gotta say, I feel like you have been talking
about like you've been working on music. So it's really
nice to like start seeing it come out. Are you
like happy that you're now starting to put it out?
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, it's funny because it just like is such a
long process, at least for me. I know it doesn't
have to be, but I'll like legit spend a month
like writing writing a wrap, like I'll write it out,
and then for the next month I'll spend time like
going through saying it in my head, like like getting
really comfortable with it, changing things around, being like, ohly, no,
(46:50):
actually this punch is better. And that's like before I
ever even hit record. And then after you do that,
it's just like you know, it has to go to
a mixer and yeah in the producer yeah yeah, And
then I think the hardest part about it is like
trying to figure out like what it needs to be
(47:10):
in the world. That's why I've like just doing all
of these collabs because I want to make music, but
I'm like not trying to put together a serious album
every time. Yeah, and go into the studio. So hikey
about music, hikey about Miss Messy Boots, go check it out,
hikey about more on the way Ryan, what are you
hikey about?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Oh, my god, I am hikey. One shout out to that.
I'm hikey about that. But I'm also hikey about this
new show that I'm watching that I watched I binged
it all Big Boys.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Hi, I'm Jack.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
This was me in twenty thirteen, a closet with mummy's boy,
with a newly dead dad and a crap perm. When
I got into UNI, it was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Well, because the best three years. If you like glasses up,
I'm not swearing that, Danny, Yes, you go to visit.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
It's literally so good. There's three seasons. I'm late to
the the program. But Big Boys is like this British
television show and it's about these two college students, one gay,
one straight, and they're both male, and it's like a biography,
like a semi biography of his life in his college years,
because the main character is like coming out and also
(48:16):
like experiencing college and his best friend, who was his roommates,
is like dealing with like major depression issues and you
know in the story that he's telling is like his
friend doesn't make it at the end. This is not
a spoiler, it's just what the story is. But you
see it leaning up to that all three seasons, and
it's just such good television and such good queer storytelling.
(48:40):
Like I literally they're they're like half hour shows and
they're just so good.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Everyone should go watch Big Boys. It's so good. It's
on Hulu, so if you got it, check it out.
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
I'm down to just like watch all all the gay
shit I can before they strip it away from us.
I know.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
I mean it's like happening.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I mean I'm watching right now, I'm watching Boots on
Netflix too, which is another gay story. So I'm like, yeah,
it's just not a lot, and it's like if it is,
it's like a blimp, you know, like it just feels
like you're right. Yeah, it's disappointing, but you know, I'm
taking advantage of the ones that I love.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
I feel like that is our directive. Then y'all go out,
let's let's let's catch these these queer things. Let's support
queer films and queer stories and queer shows. Go make
sure you watch Big Boys on Hulu. And I guess Ryan,
you and I are gonna have to talk about Boots
sometimes because I'm supposed to start it this weekend.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
I'm kind of having a hard time getting through it,
but whatever, listen.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
It was recommended to me by somebody whose taste I
don't know if I trust yet, so I'm there with you.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
That's so okay. Well, this is a great episode. I'm
I'm happy that we that Mosco was on fucking finally.
Oh my god, it feels like we needed this to happen.
Make sure to follow us on all the things at
high Key here on social and of course, subscribe, like
and comment on our YouTube channel because every fucking thing helps.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah, every everything. Leave us a five star review on
Apple Podcasts, you know, google us on the internet. Type
things into our emails, tell us what you want us
to talk about. Tell us if you if you hate
our voices or love love our thighs, We'll be here
for you. Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (50:40):
Please all right, bye, y'all.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Happy Happy November. Happy November, bitches. If you're high Key
obsessed with our show, take a second to follow or
subscribe so you never miss an episode. And while you're
at it, rate us, drop a review and tell your friends.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
If you want to keep the high Key Key going,
join us on Instagram. And TikTok at high Key here
and of course on Patreon, where we are literally dropping
all that spicy ass tea every week.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
See you there.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Hi Key is a production of iHeart Podcasts as a
part of the Outspoken Network. This show is created and
executive produced by Ryan Mitchell, E Viadley and Spoke Media.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Our showrunner is Tyler Green. Our producers are Kelly Kolff
and Katie Alis Greer. Our video producer is Bo Delmore,
and our video editor is Luis Peignath. Our audio engineer
Sammy Sirich. Special thanks to Jenna Burnett and Tess Ryan.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Our social media and community manager is Daria Cottingham. Executive
producers for Spoke Media are Travis Lamont Ballinger and Aleah Tabacolian.
Speaker 4 (51:45):
Our iHeart team is Just Crime Chich and Sierra Kaiser.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
And our fame music is by the one and only
Kayan Hersey and our show art is by Work by Work,
with photography by Eric Carter
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