October 27, 2025 • 51 mins
Emmy-winning legend Niecy Nash joins hosts Ryan and Yvie for a spooky season Halloween special that’s HighKey! hilarious. Our favorite “Reno 911” police woman and “Dahmer” diva opens up about her new Ryan Murphy show “All’s Fair,” marriage to Jessica Betts, what it means to love out loud, and whether or not she’s a scream queen. You won’t want to miss Niecy’s wedding dress horror story, what work opportunities make her say “no”, and why she’s always found power in being comfortable in her own skin. Plus, Yvie’s a ghost with a cold (is it giving diet Klan?!), Ryan’s getting ready for a Halloween party and has a little story about Khalid… Boo! We’ve got tricks AND treats (and would never make you choose).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I knocked on the door and I said, excills me, like,
what time is this Dog and Pony show gonna get started?
And then lady said, why are you in a hurry?
I said, ma'am, I am. I gotta get my kids
the chuck e cheese by seven o'clock. The last time
I got that late.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
They jumped on the.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Mouth, the head came off, the man ran in the
back and never came back out.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Ah, Happy Halloween. You scared me, eviie, you look like
a ghost.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
So rude. I was going for Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I mean, I see it if she's been dead for
the Baskets of the Year.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
No, honestly, I feel like this is like the best
Halloween costume I've ever had, because what usually happens is
I try and make something and it all falls apart
and if you just like start at the base.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, And to be honest, it's literally it's before I
got ghosts.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Because at first I did get ghosts.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I thought you were referencing an actual like character, and
I was just trying to figure out, like, well, what
is it giving?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
What was I giving?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, I'm like it's giving like interview with a vampire.
But they turned Mother Teresa and they made her the
vampire and now she's living.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Forever and ever.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Ryan, I feel like I just realized it's like Halloween
and you are so unfucking dressed up.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I know, I know, I like, I didn't even like well,
I feel like we talked about this in the last
couple of episodes.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
This is like my version of dressing up. And I'm
not even really dressed up.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
So what you're saying is you don't love me.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
And you were supposed to be putting me into drag.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Okay, I'm doing that. I just haven't gotten to the
future yet. It's really hard when.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
You're a living embodiment of the past.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Okay, now, like I can't, like, when are they gonna
time travel so you can finally do this? Like what's happening?
But how's that?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
How's life been? How's I know you've probably been doing
a ton of like spooky things. Have you been going
to like Halloween parties? Have you done Halloween events yet?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
What's Honestly, I've been sick. I've been sick for like
a week now. It's so much I'm just blowing these
little paper ghosts everywhere, making lots of friends for myself.
Oh you know, it's like not it's not the tea.
But in between that, I've been getting a Halloween gig
(02:25):
and going and spreading love and cheer from a safe
distance underneath the mask and like a ghosthood.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
How's how's you? How's you have been?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I will say, because we are before Halloween, I will say,
by the time this drops, I would have just gone
to a Halloween party.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Uh oh, and y'all better hold him to this.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I would have just gone to a Halloween party and
I would have technically dressed up because this Halloween party
that I'm going to apparently they go big or go home,
and so I have figured something out and have totally
like full win, not big, but I have done my
version of Halloween. So yeah, this is me talking to
(03:10):
future Ryan. Get your shit together and pull it off.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Have you bought your stuff for it?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Yeah? Oh absolutely not. I don't even know what I'm doing.
I'm so like, oh my god, like.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Not you making an ultimatum live for the future, yourself
accountable and modern times.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It's like a time capsule, have a podcast and then
of course like record a video.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
To future Okay, dear Evie, go ahead, pee in a bottle.
Nobody backstage will notice.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I know you really.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Need to now, Evie, don't you dare pan future Evie
if you pay in.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That damn bottle she already did. It's too late.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Oh yeah, no, I have to say though, Like, I know,
it's Halloween and I feel like we had to have
a big, ooky, spooky, scary ass episode. Yes, sort of,
kind of, sort of kind of, but instead we just
(04:06):
got the dopest bitch of her.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm I'm so excited for today's guest. Do you want
to introduce her?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I am so excited.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
You know she's She's just this person called Nissi nash Bets.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
You know, you may have never heard of her.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Like, if you've never fucking heard of her, that means
you've been living in a cage and you need some kooth.
But Niecy nash Bets are like Emmy winner Hollywood Powerhouse
Ryan Murphy Darling is joining us on this show, and honestly,
she is kind of a Here's been the eternal argument?
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Is she technically a scream queen?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We asked her we find out stick around because nay
Nash is about to be everything boo.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
We'll see you right back soon. Things hike you.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Okay, Eedie.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I am so excited about our guests today. I mean, honestly,
it's been Halloween week. We've been celebrating, as of course
we do. It's very high key, sleigh, but I guess
we really wanted to bring in someone who is like
a legend, a.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Real scream queen.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And it's kind of crazy because you've seen her everywhere
for Reno nine, when one Claus Dahmer and now their
new Ryan Murphy show. All's Fair with you know, some
small names Glenn Close, Sarah Paulson, and Kim Kardashian of course.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
So I'm excited. Let's bring in Nixxy Nash Hello, DC.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Hello, Oh my god, NISI I haven't seen you since
you were we Hope Pride.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
It was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I'm host of We Hope Pride and you were being
honored and Jessica performed there.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
For the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yes, and it was such a moment being connected with
you in that space and really just They always say
don't ever meet your heroes, but I gotta say Nci
Dash is not the girl they're talking yet.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, I mean, let's celebrate, though. I feel like you
got a lot going on right now. Out one hundred,
I kind of the year and say, I know how
you feel about that.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Listen, my head was about to pop off, you know,
because honestly, you don't do the things that you do
for people to say we want to honor you. You
just live your life in such a way, and I
just think that that's the beauty of it, you know,
loving out loud, living out loud, and being unapologetic about
(06:34):
who I love and how I love, you know. And
I was an ally, but now I'm a card carrying
member and I love getting.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Some good benefits too. You got the benefits. I'm like,
I need that package.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Honestly, I am.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm very curious for you.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
How do you feel the public support was when you
know you got your card stamped?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, you know, that's a good question because at first,
I think people thought it was fake and they were like,
this can't be real. This is a joke, this is
a movie, you know, because I wasn't someone who you
saw out to dinner dating because I got married in
COVID so the world was shut down.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So all I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Did was I had a very small wedding in my
backyard twenty four people, and I posted a picture. So
when I posted the picture, it was the first time
anyone had ever seen me win a same sex relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So people were like, this is fake, this is not real.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I know she lied, you know, and you know it's
a movie. It's a part, it's a bit.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I mean for.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Sure, I remember that dropping and I thought the same time,
I was like, wait, is this like the actual ending
of Claus that I really needed my life?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Like, what's happening here? The part of that that I
was curious about that. I was like, no, this can't
be real. It's twenty four people. How did you get
it down?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Not small?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, because it was COVID, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I didn't want to be irresponsible and you know, try
to throw a big wedding and people start dropping like flies.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
That all the great grandcousins and so bad.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Too bad.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We had to we had to knock it down to
just the minimum, and I had drive up COVID testing
in the front. Yeah, then you got your custom mask
and you came in the back.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Here's the big So it's like it's been it's five
years from that y'all just celebrated your anniversary.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And yes, but everybody did come to my anniversary party,
now see, And that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You had a larger celebration after like the smaller wedding,
and like five years, you reflect over so much, and
I wonder, is there something that you've been reflecting about
your actual wedding day that you just like remember and.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
You cherished so much, Like what what do you remember
from that moment?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Because it was I gotta say it was a Beyonce
level self titled when she made the world stop when
she released her that was a sort of reaction that
people had when you let the world in on this
beautiful relationship.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well, two things come to mind. One is how I
found my dress. Tell us well, Siri helped me find
it because while I was two weeks from my wedding
and I had gotten a dress, you know, and it
arrived and it was not It didn't fit me well
and none of the things, and I just started crying.
(09:32):
I'm like, oh my god, you know I don't have
a dress. And I know that for weddings you got
to plan out and it's got to be a thing.
And I said, hey, Surrey and she said mm hmm,
and I said where can I get a dress? And
she told me a bridal shop that was open called
Lily's Bridles.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I cried all the way there.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I got there, I was still crying, and the lady said,
I'll be with you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I had a mask on, she said just one minute.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I picked up a dress and I'm like, I'll try
this on, threw it in the dressing room, went in
there and tried it on, and came out and another
girl came over and touched my.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Arm and she said I know who you are.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I thought she was gonna say I know you
from Reno nine one one, I know you from you
know TV, I know you from whatever. And in my
mind my inner monologue was.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Bitch, I don't care why you think you know me
from you.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Know dressed.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And she touched my arm and didn't even call me
by my name. She said, you're Michael Ensley's sister. I
went to high school with your brother, and I was
there the day he got murdered on campus. He was
so kind and so loving, and I cried all over
the front of the dress and I said.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Really, how serendipitous. I mean, that doesn't happen every single
I don't even know how it happened, but that is
what happened. And I was like, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And when I opened these two double doors right here
in front of me to come out in the dress,
the look on Jessica's face, Shaka Khan said, ain't no body, and.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The doors flung open.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, And I stepped out that door, and the way
Jessica looked at me in that dress, she said, I
have never seen you look more beautiful. And she still
has that picture on a look on her side of
the night staying and all of the things. And I
pushed my bouquet forward and I think of that often,
(11:38):
and so much so that for our five year wedding anniversary.
I'm telling you, I don't know how lightning struck twice.
I went back to Lily's bridle and the first dress
I picked up because I wanted a short dress.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
She said, we don't have any short dresses.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And I picked up a dress and she was like,
now that's cute.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We could cut the bottom.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And then she called the designer and he said, let
me come over there and help you out. He came
to the Bridle Shop my custom dress. It was just
I could not even believe. Oh and then let me
tell you something else. The day of the party, I'm
in the dress, I'm ready, hair beat, face beat, and
(12:23):
I said, oh, this declate, this declata need a little something.
I picked up some bronzer and a pump was stuck
boom all over the dress.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, now I'm crying again.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And my folks from the Bridle Shop, the designer who
made the dress, Christopher and Lisa from Lily Bridles, rushed over.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I called.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I said, y'all, I messed this dress up. They said,
send us a picture.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
We on the way.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And when you look at my polk, I don't know
what they did, but when they picked up the dress,
they walked over to the sink, the lady said, look
away because it don't get workdic.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
They did black magic to get that white dress white.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Again, and so they fixed it and my party was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And yeah, oh, that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm definitely a girl who has had dress challenges, but
they always work out well.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I think it's so beautiful though, like it really explains
why it feels like everything with you and Jessica just
as like divine, because to have this moment, what to
plan a wedding in twenty twenty in the height of
that pandemic, Were y'all even questioning doing it?
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Or were you just kind of like why not?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
We are at this crossroads in life where I'm just
gonna do what I want.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Why not if I want to marry your woman.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Never I have never questioned celebrating love ever, and so yes,
and I don't care who showed up, I was gonna
be there. We got com in Domingo to be our
officiant Tea. He's my dear friend, and he and I
are still having a war of words about his outfit
choice to that he married us in. But that that
(14:08):
we'll say that for another place. The yellow is pretty sickening.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, I thought it looked beautiful against you all.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
That's the danger of inviting a flashy faggots to your wedding.
I'm banned from all of my friend's weddings, okay, because
they up doing too much.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But we had it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We had such a such a beautiful time and we
and we still celebrate any and everything.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I just that is just so scared having to do that,
but y'all really pulled that stuff off. But I think
what's really beautiful too, And I would love to talk
even more about the ways that one thing about you.
If we see you out, Jessica will be right there
with you. And there's also a love of appreciating like
(15:03):
you are such a beautiful amplifier to even her work,
Like you all just balance each other out right, like you.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Let her shine.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And was that something that was really important for you
in this stage of really locking in with someone knowing
that they will support you when you support them and
you can equally do the same well in.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Our early conversations, whether it's work or you know, just
day to day life. You know, we talked early on
and I said, reciprocity is the order of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I want it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Always in all ways, you know, and she was like,
I wouldn't have it any other way. So the fact
that we are there for each other is just a given.
And I mean, I've been in situations where you've been
with people and you have to play small oh you
know what I mean, and you can't dial it down.
(15:53):
But CARDI b say, don't do too much, don't know
too much. And you know in this marriage. I love
being here in this partnership because you know, we wake
up every morning and somebody is putting a battery in
somebody's bag. You know, remember who you are? Yeah, you
(16:14):
know what I mean, And so.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I love it like that. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I've been in spaces and places with my whole pedigree
and my whole self where I'm like, no, I got
the amp, I'll carry this.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Let me wrap the cord around my arm. What else
you need? You know?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Because true love is to be of service. It's not
about your who, It's about what you do. Where is
the exchange and reciprocity and when you're there for me
and I'm there for you and all the things. So
that's baked in strong.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
You know what's interesting is I feel like that's something
that you've been able to bring to a lot of
your different like character work throughout the years, and no
matter how diversely different they are, Like I'm such a
clause girly and your performance was very nuanced, which is
funny because like that was coming off of, at least
(17:04):
in my mind me growing up seeing you on Reno
nine one one and being like, oh, this bitch is wild.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Yo, Casanova, I need you to do me a favor.
I see you. I need you to stand up and
act very Come. The Reno Sheriff's Department has been peeping
out your whole gain and let us tell you what
you gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
All right, You're.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Gonna get rid of at skank poor. You're gonna ask
your baby mama to do what marry you.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Can?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I say, before I knew what a mocumittery was, I
was young when Reno nine one one came out.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I thought that shit was real.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I thought y'all were real police officers, and I thought
you were most definitely telling folks, because you know it
was it was a documentary based off of like the
show Cops, and yeah, I literally thought, at what point, I,
being a young kid watching this show, being like, oh
my god, this black police officer just told this girl
about her kitchen and her edges and how most contidents
(18:07):
don't bet.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I was like, oh, this is legendary. And then of course,
I think it.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Just speaks to the work that you all were doing
at that time, because what a brilliant show, Like, what
a brilliant show did you.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
First of all, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Second of all, I had never heard of a sketch
comedy like improv comedy troops, and I never heard of Groundlings.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Second City.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I was over there on one hundred and twenty then
for my minded my black business okay, And then when
they called and said can you audition for this show?
I just lied and was like yes, I know exactly
what how to do all of that. I sung up
that phone and I called my friend Big George, and
I'm like, what the hell is sketch?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
What do I gotta do?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And I didn't know enough to be nervous or be afraid.
I was just one hundred percent myself, and I never forget.
When I went to the first one, it was taking
such a long time, and I knocked on the door
and I said, excuse me, like, what time is this
dog and Pony show gonna get started?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And the lady said, why are you in a hurry?
I said, man, I am.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I gotta give my kids the chucky cheese about seven
o'clock the last time I got that late. They jumped
on the mouse, the head came off. The man ran
in the back and never came back out. So yeah,
I gotta go, and they were like.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Who is this little girl out of his mouth?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And so they let me come in in the audition.
And then when I came back, I got a call back.
I said, I begged my mama to watch my kids, please,
I just gotta be focused. I go to the call
back and as soon as I walked in, I said, Hey,
how's everybody doing?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
They said, what happened at Chucky Cheese? I said, what now?
I put hot fizes on Chucky cheese? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And I don't know if in that moment I was
the most talent girl that came in there, But I
do know that I was very comfortable in my skin
and I wasn't trying to be anybody else. And I
did not I didn't even step on myself to suppress,
like how I really talk, how I really move?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
How I really you know? No? No, I was just like,
what's good?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Do you miss comedy?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Like? Do you miss I mean you when you're in
me in a dramatic role. You have done so many
incredible dramatic performances. But I wonder do you miss being
in comedy? Like is that a pivot? You want to
contete it? Because I feel like people pigeonholed you once
you start doing a dramatic.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
What happened was I got stuck in doing sitcoms and
they were like, no, we know what you do, and
I was like, I'm telling y'all, I can do something else.
And then it took me so long to get them
to see that I could do something else. The first
thing that I did was a show on HBO called
Getting On. I got two Emmy nominations from Nashal and
then all of a sudden people forgot I was funny.
(21:03):
I got, you know, passed to play all of these
dramatic roles. And so now I'm on this side of
the line trying to figure out how to get back
on that side of the line, because I love the balance,
you know. I love to be able to do both.
And mind you, when I was filming Dahmer, which I
won the Emmy for, I was also filming the renal
(21:24):
nine to one one movie Hunt for Q and I
at the same time, Take the booty off, take the
baby here all go, Put on my glasses.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And beat Glenda Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Take off my glasses, put the booty back on dry
back across town.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So I was able to film them at the same time.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Wow, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Was that a trip?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Like?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Was that like more fulfilling for you to get to
express yourself in these dramatically different ways, or was it
like sometimes was it ever difficult to be like, oh shit,
the booties on, but I'm still not here, No.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Because you know, you know why, because you know why,
I'm not a method actor.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I take it off. When I take it off is off.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So I never felt like, Oh, I have the work
to do to come up out of this character, to
be able to get into this one.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I was like, ooh, I feel like laughing.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Hey, y'all, you know, come in right, come into the
next bid, and you know, and get on up out
of there. So I enjoy both equally, But I am
dying to do something funny.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
And what does that look like for you?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Cause, I mean, one thing that I know about you
is you have such a wonderful community around you, like
then your network, right like you and Ryan Murphy seem
to just understand and get each other on levels where
I mean, y'all been working with each other since I
think I read nineteen ninety eight when he cast you
in like a WB project.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It was quite popular a thousand years ago, and.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Like, I'm like to know that your network and your
relationship ones that stayed so strong with each other. Talk
to us a little bit about that, right because I'm
assuming when you find someone who just gets you, that's
those are.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
The people that you want to work with the rest
of your career.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well you know what, It's not only that, but I
love Ryan's creativity.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Like I'm like, how does your mind work? How did
you think it is? Get it from?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And I love I love him, you know what I mean.
I get to see a different side of him. He's
very stoic when he's out. Now that's somebody who don't
do too much. But I get to see him beyond
the veil, and I just enjoy him as a person.
And he will always and forever Ryan Murphy and Ava
Duverney will forever have me at hello.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah. Wooh, that's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
That's so strong.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Because I said yes to Damer and didn't even know
what it was. He just called and was like, hey,
I've got this thing I want you to do and
I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Then he sent it and.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I was like, yeah, is that okay?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Way to bury the lead?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like but now there's a trust I'm assuming between you
two where it's like, you know, if you're gonna knock
on your door or call you, it's gonna be something
that's median that you are going to automatically want to do.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's beautiful And I have been having such a good
time with the ladies on alswhere so very true. You
are not taking so much as a ballpoint pen out
of this building enough edging counselor let us come already now?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Is that gonna be a little fun?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I feel like you that shows particularly it's coming off
as a drama, but I feel like you're gonna be
bringing some of the comedy chops to it though.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Right, it's a drama, but it also has a little camp.
You know, it's a workplace, but you get a follow
all of the girls home. Yeah, but we all play
a vorsee attorneys at a very high power firm that
Kim Kardashian's character, Alure Grant is the head of Why
did I feel.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Like that is drama and comedy in and of itself,
Like legit, that's just amazing for how beautiful this is
recognizing who we all are outside of our characters. Oh yeah,
I'm curious though, because I feel like I've had a
lot of conversations with Ryan this year talking about how
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horror is blending a lot as a genre with like
comedy and even like, yeah, like romantic movies. Would you
ever like consider stepping in something that is a comedically
sharpened like horror role. They're like, yeah, you get to
be a scream queen, but you also like, I don't know,
like have extra giant tits and they're green.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
I don't know, this just sounded like a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Actually, was that Wait a minute, what's the name of
that cartoon? I did it? That far act?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
That is a character that I'll play. Yeah, Bohmer was
in it. Oh, human resources boom.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I don't know why my mind wasn't going there.
Literally said said, I was like, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And I and I shot rockets out of the girls
she did.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You know, I'm up for pretty much anything, and you know,
and anything I have never done always excites me. You know,
I've never played a villain. I'm looking forward to doing that,
you know at some point, you know, it's just some
things where you say, oh, I have never done this,
I've never done that, and if it's on a never
done list.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You're always like sign me up.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Thank you. So do you consider yourself to be an
actual scream queen? I know we've called you that here
and I was kind of having what we were talking
about having you on. I was like, yes, she's a
scream queen, but it's not like in like the traditional
nineties cent And I.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Was like, Ryan Waite, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
But she's not the one being chased by Slasher and
like screaming, right, She's doing more like dramatic also true
crime work that is like actually telling stories of real
situations that have happened. And I knew I had to ask.
I was like, well, do you consider yourself to be
a scream queen? Besides being in the hit show Scream Queens?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You know, I don't know if I would consider myself
to be a scream queen. I played a lot more
cops detectives than anything. Yeah, you know, I've done a
lot of that, you know what I mean. I played
a lot of roles where I get to bring the
handcuffs home.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I know, that's right, Okay, that's because like people already
have a cop fantasy and no tie you're too pretty
to be a scream queen. Like scream queens have to
have weird faces, you know, like you're too symmetrical. Your
eyes aren't like very close together, very like crazy far apart.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
You know, say thank you, Yeah, just take that as
the beautiful compliment. But I think it's really really great
to want to see your career and the ways that
it's been able to like ebb and flow. And I
know you do a lot of personal curating in what
you decide to do and what you want to do.
(28:23):
Talk to us a little bit about that, Like have
you felt more of the freedom to say yes to
things versus you know, are saying no to things that
you don't necessarily feel like or do you still feel
like you just want to keep grabbing hold to all
the things while you're in this moment.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
And what's your favorite thing to say no to?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, I'll tell you it's this here.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
When you first get into business, you say yes to
them near everything because you trying to get on. You
got to feed your family, you gotta pay rent, you
gotta buy Ramen noodles or whatever the case is, right,
so you're like, oh yeah, I'll play clerk number three,
you know, in all of these things. But then you
move into space where you start to be more selective.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
If you've worked long enough.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And you know the most high aligns at all in
your favor, that's when you can afford to say no.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You can say no because it's gonna cost me my time,
my peace, my energy. You could say no because I
just didn't respond to the material, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's a number of reasons.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
But you know, Hollywood is not used to your no though,
because everybody is so hungry.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
To get their careers going. It's just yes to everything. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
And I remember I remember, very very early on in
my career, before I could afford too, I actually said
no to something and my agents and everybody was up
in the arms about it, like why wouldn't you do
this thing? And it was this girl, not because she
was a prostitute, but she was getting beat up by
her pimp, and it was, you know, kind of one
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of them things you got daddy money.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah, the money.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All of this, and that the point was where I
was in that space in my life. My children were little,
and I didn't want to walk around in the energy
all day of being beat up and thrown across the
concrete for sixteen hours.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I was just like, no, I don't want to do it,
like protect your energy versus.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Just from an energy standpoint, not the roll or anything
like that. It was just the energy that I was
going to be screamed at and cussed out for sixteen hours.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
And I was like, no, you're like it and it's
not even a part now, No, it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Was no, Yeah, it's it's that's so important, right because
I just remember, like I've seen you quote being like
I am the blueprint, right, like I am the person
that is in charge, and that feels like that's always
been a part of your work, which is not necessarily
a thing. I mean even when you won your Emmy.
(31:17):
Let's just start there. When you won your Emmy went
and you think yourself, it went everywhere. I mean it
was one of the most viral moments from the Emmys
that year. And you know who I want to think,
I want to thank me.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Fuck believe it in me and doing what they said
I could not do.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And it was like, well, are people shocked that you
put yourself first? And you like are taking yourself for
this work that you've been able to because.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's like, as soon as I made it in the back,
they said, why did you say that? Yeah, as soon
as I made it to the family, to the press line,
they said, why did you thank yourself?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And I said, because I'm the only one who knows
what all of this cost me.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I know how many nice I cried. I know how
many nights I had to spend away from my children.
I know what it was like to crawl across the floor,
and I know what it's like to have people look
at you and not see you the way you see yourself.
So when I was backstage, I said, that's why it's
not called mama esteem and them esteem and us esteem.
It's called self esteem because don't nobody got to believe
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it but you.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
So yes, thank me?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, get into a girl because you you sometimes you
have to encourage your own self.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And so I was like, yeah, thank me.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Is that something that comes with like.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Because I love hearing this and I always feel like
when people talk about it, especially like accomplished folks, it,
I always wonder, like that's not something immediately that you
find out right, Like that's something that comes with time
and like experience.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I feel like for me, I can't speak for anyone else,
but I knew as a child. You know that I
was different. You understand what I'm saying. And I knew it.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I knew it very very early on, and even before
I started auditioning. When I said I wanted to be
an actor at five years old, you know, it was
people in my family that was like, girl, she ain't
gonna do nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
She's so shy.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And I had this one aunt that used to say
all the time, my aunt Tie Shirley used to say
that girl.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Gonna be some.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I said, now you see it. Now you say the vision,
you know? And I felt like I always knew. When
I was seven, I saw ed Asner out on a
Hollywood Walk of Fame and I was like, I don't
know you, but I know you be on TV, and
I just want you to know that I'm gonna be
famous one day too, and I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Star right here on this ground. And he was like, yeah, kids,
gram and I was like, my name is Nacey ray Man.
My name.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And when I got my star on the Hollywood Walk
of Fame, I sent a letter and asked if he
could come. He sent me a letter back and said
I'm so grateful you didn't let a crotch of the
old man step on your dream. And of course I
know your name. And then he said I'm unable to come,
and I said, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, thank you for the letter.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
The day before I got a call from his team
and said he'll be there.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Really, ed Asner came to my start.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I couldn't even look over where he was sitting because
I was gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
My fake eyelash was off. I was like, I can't
look at the man. I gotta wait till it's over with,
you know. So I just knew early, Like and when
I used to go to castles and they would be like, sorry,
we're gonna go another way. I said, I feel bad
for y'all. Girl, I'm really the one you should have been. Yeah,
I would say that all you know. It wasn't an act.
(34:51):
It was honestly how I felt. And then one time
I was in the cast and the people gonna lean
their heads together and say, she got I mean her
face cue you think she could lose weight?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I said, no, I can't lose weight.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
But I.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
How dare they actually like, how dare you discuss my
body like this?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But oh, my goodness, it's but like not really showing
a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But I was like, I'm gonna get even fatter, So
what we gonna do?
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Like what's the problem.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, yeah, it got real indy that part.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And I remember one time I went to this audition
was way far out. I got out there before I
even picked up the script. I said, let me tell
y'all something. Y'all should have told people. This was just far.
I didn't drove all the way out here. You should
have told me y'all needed a sack lunch. You should
have told me I was gonna need to use the
bathroom two three times before I got out of here.
I said, So, now, I don't know if y'all giving
(35:50):
me this role, but y'all gonna hire me to do something.
Y'all need somebody to file papers or what we doing
because I'm not leaving with her.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
And I know that all from because what I know
about you for sure also is you've always led with
like your faith, and yeah, that also leads you in
a lot of way. And I wondered, especially with you
balancing your faith and even like your queer identity, if
that's the language that you use, how have you been
(36:20):
able to navigate both your faith and your belief systems
while also knowing it's complicated when it comes to queer folks.
Did you have to unlearn things about yourself and what
you've been taught. What did that journey look like for
you when it came to your faith?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
What The one thing I will say about that is
that I was raised in church.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Same I'm a koj girl.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And you learned certain things, and you learn how they
feel about it, You learn what they like, what they
don't like, and they gonna tell you what's to it
and what's going on, and they're going to find a
scripture to justify it. The best advice I was ever
given is that you got to know the most time
for yourself, right, So that's outside.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Of all the other noise.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And you also have to then start if you're gonna study,
you can't just stop at the one book, because you
got to figure out how the stuff got in the book.
And when you realize that the same people who gave
you Christianity also handed you slavery on the self of platter,
you said, now wait.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
A minute, this can be this can't be. Whoa whoa
whoa whoa wa almost.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Sexuality actually put into the Bible. Now wait a minute,
you know, and you do a further dive, and then
you find out, like in some communities that people who
had a dual sexuality were highly regarded as the highest
form of being in that village, in that town, in
that community. You know, and you say, you know, at
(37:48):
the basis of this, if it's love, then just do that.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
If that's the bottom line, because.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Everybody agrees, they don't matter what religion it is, everybody
agrees the bottom line to what is love. So when
you start to judge, to say, but what I'm going
to heaven and you not? Or you right and I'm wrong,
you missed the love part. Yeah, so I just decided
to live in the love part and let the chips
fall what they may.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Okay, I have a question for you. Could you and
or would you.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Like to come to my next Thanksgiving dinner with my
family because I need somebody else on my team. It's
just me out here spending all those facts being like no, no, no, your.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Bible says love.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Also, you can't wear that cashmeir and that linen.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know, I'll be there. I'll pull up. Now.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I do make a mean pot of greens. You know,
you don't go to nobody's house empty handed. Well, I
will bring uh, you know, I'll bring something, but it's
probably not anything that I could.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Probably they're like, go pick up these pies. No, but
I think that is.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Really beautiful and I appreciate you for talking about that,
right because it is something, especially in this time where
I could imagine, you know, this world of queerness is honey,
it is something else once you really start finding community
and you start to understand the intra kind of like
community conversations that are happening, and I think, I wonder,
(39:23):
have you learned anything new about yourself during this time
in your life that has really stuck with you?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
You're so kind.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
He's trying to ask, have you gotten geary?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
You know, I don't know if gotten gayer is the
term that applied, although I have been.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I'm the Queer of the year. I will cleaning the
parades and you know all of the things.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
I think you have gotten gayer.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
So please, Well, the one thing that I will say
is that what I do realize is how much just
showing up matters to the community.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
So we not only are we a queer couple, but
now we're a celebrity, you know, forward couple. Now we
are black on black love, you know what I mean.
It just keeps, you know, so many things keep being
added to the Moniker and I just love that people
(40:28):
can see themselves in us. When we were on the
cover of Essence, the first queer couple to ever be
on the cover in fifty two years of the magazine,
we got so much male so many people reached out,
whether it was you know, DMS or Facebook or you
know where.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
They just felt like their hands were gonna pop off.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
They've never seen it in their lifetime, in fifty two years,
they've never had that.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Yeah, gorgeous cover, by the way.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And so I don't take it lightly that people could
see themselves in me, or also that for some my
relationships bring.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Some normalcy to just loving who you love.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
See because you started off with this question, they loved
me before, right two husbands ago, you know. And so
some people fell off the ride when I married Jessica,
but more people joined the ride, and I got those
people who were like, well I liked her, now I
don't want to unlike her.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Because of this, I sick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
So then that makes you go look at your cousin
who you was being shady to, and go look at
the man you gotta work with and who you was,
you know what I mean. So it normalized loving who
you love. For some people who's you know, crossed our
path and I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I love that too. You just make my heart flutter.
It's so wonderful to hear you speaking, to hear you
talk about your love. And we love to ask every
guest on this show the prime question of the show.
What are you high key about?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
What is all on your mind?
Speaker 5 (42:12):
It can be a person, place, thing for idea, something
that pisses you off, something that pisses on you.
Speaker 6 (42:18):
What are you hikey about?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
You know what I'm really high key about. I'm really
high key about people minding their business. Mind the business
that pays you. Go out if it's somebody and you
don't like what they post the people. If you know
you gonna feel the way when you go over to
(42:41):
your people house for Thanksgiving, don't go go somewhere else
where you're gonna be celebrated and not tolerated. Mind your business.
Mind the business that bes your soul. Mind the business
that pays your bills, and mind the business that keeps
you emotionally satiated.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So when people are like, oh this that girl, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
You, because I was somewhere minded my black business, all
of my black business. I don't need nobody to call here.
I don't need no company, I don't need nothing. Mind
your business.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Worry about yourself and you'll you'll be a lot better off.
And I'm real hotkey about that.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Oh you ain't that That might be the best high
key we've had.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
On this show.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
If you don't have no business, get some and then
mind it.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
I know that's right, and that's why I'm still here.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Thank you so much for being on high key.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Please come back all the time, anytime, whatever you want,
any time.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Literally, if I.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Bring JB, absolutely absolutely I would love that, because what
I don't know is JB was helping me. See set
up I had on this fine rope. I'm like, you
know what, it's just a fine thuffle.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
They just fine.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Thank you, Oh my god, thank you so much, DC.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Thanks guy, hike you.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Oh my god, what a wonderful conversation with the legend
the NC Nash, which I was right.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
I knew she was not going to consider herself a
scream queen.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
You were right.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Everybody on the team thought she was a scream queen,
and I was just like, she is not a scream queen.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
And you were even like, bitch you said that.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I was like, what, So I feel like I thought
y'all for sure thought that she was a scream queen.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
I'm sorry I threw you under the bus. I was
getting lonely in the afterworld. It's just me and all
these little snot rocket ghosts I've been making.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
It's my cousin, which I'm like, which is so funny
because I'm like, now is the time where we talk
about our high keys of the week, and I feel
like you've just been really like high key sick, and
so I don't.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Even know if you have anything, but do you want
me to go first?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
And do you want to go I'll just take it
away because I have been hikey sick, and so II
you need to bitch about something real quick.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Which is it.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
When somebody else wanted to hear that?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
When when somebody is not texting you back and they're
publicly post like, hey, y'all, I'm sick, and then they
text you back.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Hey I'm sick. Just let them die in peace.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Oh actually, girl, girls like it.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
It is this season.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
You don't want to see me. Whether it's for family
love or friendship or like good dick, all you will
get is some ghostly gool glop right now.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Girl, it is not good. Okay. So there's that.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And my actual high key is a video game. I'm
just playing video games, okay.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Which honestly I went through the same thing not long ago.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
But I was also sick and I wasn't responding to
text messages, and a friend specifically like playfully but like
was also dead ass, was like if I text you
and you don't say anything.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
I was like, girl, I was sick, Like what.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Do you mean I can't just girl, I gotta save
all my battery for the afterlife.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
Or oh my, what video game are you playing?
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Okay, I'm playing Hades two, which is the sequel to
Hades one. It's about Greek gods and stuff, which is
like some of my favorite bs, and it's really good
at being a video game for a sick person who
doesn't want to text people back right now.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
That's so real, right.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
What are you What are you playing right now?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I am not high key about whatever is happening on
the other side of the screen, but I.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Always know that's not playing. What are you high key about? Sorry?
The sick meds are hidden?
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I at least you're not one of those like miserable
sick people who just like whine and complain.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
You have like energy and you're.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
Still cameras on when the ship cuts off, you are
getting a mouthful and an ear full.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
Like this pieces a ship. How dare you embarrass me
in front of our fans?
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I'm high key about And maybe while you're resting and
getting some rest, you should be playing Khalid's new album,
After the Sun Goes Down.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Start.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
I've always been a fan of Khalid.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I think Khalid is like so cool and his voice
texture is always.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
Really so sexy.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
And now that he is an openly queer artist, black
queer artists doing this work is really really important to
put a spotlight on it. And I'm very very happy
that it seems like I've heard him talk about this album,
and he's talked about how like I think his first
album was American Teen and it felt like it was
like freedom in some ways, and how this album also
(48:00):
just feels like a next chapter and level of freedom
that he's experiencing now. Of course, you know he was
awfully outed, but I'm just happy that he's pushed through
and created some really great music out of the experience.
And I just really desperately want him on the show.
I think I've seen him on on other shows and
they've been great interviews, but I just think there's something
(48:22):
to like seeing him around like other black queer folks.
I think we could just have a really great conversation
about Oh.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
Yes, Ryan, that's a great high key. You desperately want
Khalid on the show. I desperately want Khalid.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
And I have a story about Khalid too. When I
first met.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Him, is it gonna make me?
Speaker 5 (48:39):
What?
Speaker 6 (48:39):
Is it gonna be? Like weird already?
Speaker 3 (48:41):
But I met him first at a I was hosting
a Coachella. It was like when I was doing radio
that we had a Coachella house and he was there
and he took pictures with us, and like I was
so gay, Like I was, I had like a neon
crop top on, different hair, Like my hair was sitting
up and I just remember telling him, like looking him
in his face, being like, you know, people always say
(49:02):
that we because we have similar hairstyle, Like people always
try to say that we look alike. And I just
remember him looking at me, and I interpreted at the
time being like, why is this faggot.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
Talking to me? But I was.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
I don't think he'll ever remember that, but I just
also will be like, huh, was I like.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Your vision board of gains?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
You're like, oh shit, wait, I.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Could do that, but no, I hope we wanted to
get to have him on the show, but that's a rap.
Thank you so much for hanging out with us this week.
Don't go anywhere next week because we are so excited.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
We have a RuPaul's Drag Race sister coming on.
Speaker 5 (49:38):
Don't we have the Demon Queen herself or as her
new branding is gone, God's favorite trends sexual and my
favorite too.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
It's mosco. Yes, it's gonna be so good. Stick around, you.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Know it's gonna be good. If she got banned from Twitter.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Oh, I can't wait to talk to her about it,
because like, girl, what were you doing until then?
Speaker 6 (50:01):
Make sure you're following us on Instagram and.
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Speaker 6 (50:15):
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
We'll see you in the after life.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Ah, this might be your greatest work.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I feel like it looks like diet Clan.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Well it kind of does, actually, now that you bring
it up. Yeh, take it back, and this is this
is not your greatest work.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
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Speaker 6 (51:07):
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Our audio engineer Sammy Sirich.
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Special thanks to Jenna Burnett and Tess Ryan.
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by Eric Carter
And I knocked on the door and I said, excills me, like,
what time is this Dog and Pony show gonna get started?
And then lady said, why are you in a hurry?
I said, ma'am, I am. I gotta get my kids
the chuck e cheese by seven o'clock. The last time
I got that late.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
They jumped on the.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Mouth, the head came off, the man ran in the
back and never came back out.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Ah, Happy Halloween. You scared me, eviie, you look like
a ghost.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
So rude. I was going for Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I mean, I see it if she's been dead for
the Baskets of the Year.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
No, honestly, I feel like this is like the best
Halloween costume I've ever had, because what usually happens is
I try and make something and it all falls apart
and if you just like start at the base.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, And to be honest, it's literally it's before I
got ghosts.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Because at first I did get ghosts.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I thought you were referencing an actual like character, and
I was just trying to figure out, like, well, what
is it giving?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
What was I giving?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, I'm like it's giving like interview with a vampire.
But they turned Mother Teresa and they made her the
vampire and now she's living.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Forever and ever.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Ryan, I feel like I just realized it's like Halloween
and you are so unfucking dressed up.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I know, I know, I like, I didn't even like well,
I feel like we talked about this in the last
couple of episodes.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
This is like my version of dressing up. And I'm
not even really dressed up.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
So what you're saying is you don't love me.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
And you were supposed to be putting me into drag.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Okay, I'm doing that. I just haven't gotten to the
future yet. It's really hard when.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
You're a living embodiment of the past.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Okay, now, like I can't, like, when are they gonna
time travel so you can finally do this? Like what's happening?
But how's that?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
How's life been? How's I know you've probably been doing
a ton of like spooky things. Have you been going
to like Halloween parties? Have you done Halloween events yet?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
What's Honestly, I've been sick. I've been sick for like
a week now. It's so much I'm just blowing these
little paper ghosts everywhere, making lots of friends for myself.
Oh you know, it's like not it's not the tea.
But in between that, I've been getting a Halloween gig
(02:25):
and going and spreading love and cheer from a safe
distance underneath the mask and like a ghosthood.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
How's how's you? How's you have been?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I will say, because we are before Halloween, I will say,
by the time this drops, I would have just gone
to a Halloween party.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Uh oh, and y'all better hold him to this.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I would have just gone to a Halloween party and
I would have technically dressed up because this Halloween party
that I'm going to apparently they go big or go home,
and so I have figured something out and have totally
like full win, not big, but I have done my
version of Halloween. So yeah, this is me talking to
(03:10):
future Ryan. Get your shit together and pull it off.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Have you bought your stuff for it?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Yeah? Oh absolutely not. I don't even know what I'm doing.
I'm so like, oh my god, like.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Not you making an ultimatum live for the future, yourself
accountable and modern times.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It's like a time capsule, have a podcast and then
of course like record a video.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
To future Okay, dear Evie, go ahead, pee in a bottle.
Nobody backstage will notice.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I know you really.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Need to now, Evie, don't you dare pan future Evie
if you pay in.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That damn bottle she already did. It's too late.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Oh yeah, no, I have to say though, Like, I know,
it's Halloween and I feel like we had to have
a big, ooky, spooky, scary ass episode. Yes, sort of,
kind of, sort of kind of, but instead we just
(04:06):
got the dopest bitch of her.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm I'm so excited for today's guest. Do you want
to introduce her?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I am so excited.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
You know she's She's just this person called Nissi nash Bets.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
You know, you may have never heard of her.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Like, if you've never fucking heard of her, that means
you've been living in a cage and you need some kooth.
But Niecy nash Bets are like Emmy winner Hollywood Powerhouse
Ryan Murphy Darling is joining us on this show, and honestly,
she is kind of a Here's been the eternal argument?
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Is she technically a scream queen?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We asked her we find out stick around because nay
Nash is about to be everything boo.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
We'll see you right back soon. Things hike you.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Okay, Eedie.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I am so excited about our guests today. I mean, honestly,
it's been Halloween week. We've been celebrating, as of course
we do. It's very high key, sleigh, but I guess
we really wanted to bring in someone who is like
a legend, a.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Real scream queen.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And it's kind of crazy because you've seen her everywhere
for Reno nine, when one Claus Dahmer and now their
new Ryan Murphy show. All's Fair with you know, some
small names Glenn Close, Sarah Paulson, and Kim Kardashian of course.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
So I'm excited. Let's bring in Nixxy Nash Hello, DC.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Hello, Oh my god, NISI I haven't seen you since
you were we Hope Pride.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
It was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I'm host of We Hope Pride and you were being
honored and Jessica performed there.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
For the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yes, and it was such a moment being connected with
you in that space and really just They always say
don't ever meet your heroes, but I gotta say Nci
Dash is not the girl they're talking yet.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, I mean, let's celebrate, though. I feel like you
got a lot going on right now. Out one hundred,
I kind of the year and say, I know how
you feel about that.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Listen, my head was about to pop off, you know,
because honestly, you don't do the things that you do
for people to say we want to honor you. You
just live your life in such a way, and I
just think that that's the beauty of it, you know,
loving out loud, living out loud, and being unapologetic about
(06:34):
who I love and how I love, you know. And
I was an ally, but now I'm a card carrying
member and I love getting.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Some good benefits too. You got the benefits. I'm like,
I need that package.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Honestly, I am.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm very curious for you.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
How do you feel the public support was when you
know you got your card stamped?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, you know, that's a good question because at first,
I think people thought it was fake and they were like,
this can't be real. This is a joke, this is
a movie, you know, because I wasn't someone who you
saw out to dinner dating because I got married in
COVID so the world was shut down.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So all I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Did was I had a very small wedding in my
backyard twenty four people, and I posted a picture. So
when I posted the picture, it was the first time
anyone had ever seen me win a same sex relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So people were like, this is fake, this is not real.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I know she lied, you know, and you know it's
a movie. It's a part, it's a bit.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I mean for.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Sure, I remember that dropping and I thought the same time,
I was like, wait, is this like the actual ending
of Claus that I really needed my life?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Like, what's happening here? The part of that that I
was curious about that. I was like, no, this can't
be real. It's twenty four people. How did you get
it down?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Not small?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, because it was COVID, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I didn't want to be irresponsible and you know, try
to throw a big wedding and people start dropping like flies.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
That all the great grandcousins and so bad.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Too bad.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We had to we had to knock it down to
just the minimum, and I had drive up COVID testing
in the front. Yeah, then you got your custom mask
and you came in the back.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Here's the big So it's like it's been it's five
years from that y'all just celebrated your anniversary.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And yes, but everybody did come to my anniversary party,
now see, And that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You had a larger celebration after like the smaller wedding,
and like five years, you reflect over so much, and
I wonder, is there something that you've been reflecting about
your actual wedding day that you just like remember and.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
You cherished so much, Like what what do you remember
from that moment?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Because it was I gotta say it was a Beyonce
level self titled when she made the world stop when
she released her that was a sort of reaction that
people had when you let the world in on this
beautiful relationship.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well, two things come to mind. One is how I
found my dress. Tell us well, Siri helped me find
it because while I was two weeks from my wedding
and I had gotten a dress, you know, and it
arrived and it was not It didn't fit me well
and none of the things, and I just started crying.
(09:32):
I'm like, oh my god, you know I don't have
a dress. And I know that for weddings you got
to plan out and it's got to be a thing.
And I said, hey, Surrey and she said mm hmm,
and I said where can I get a dress? And
she told me a bridal shop that was open called
Lily's Bridles.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I cried all the way there.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I got there, I was still crying, and the lady said,
I'll be with you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I had a mask on, she said just one minute.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I picked up a dress and I'm like, I'll try
this on, threw it in the dressing room, went in
there and tried it on, and came out and another
girl came over and touched my.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Arm and she said I know who you are.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I thought she was gonna say I know you
from Reno nine one one, I know you from you
know TV, I know you from whatever. And in my
mind my inner monologue was.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Bitch, I don't care why you think you know me
from you.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Know dressed.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And she touched my arm and didn't even call me
by my name. She said, you're Michael Ensley's sister. I
went to high school with your brother, and I was
there the day he got murdered on campus. He was
so kind and so loving, and I cried all over
the front of the dress and I said.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Really, how serendipitous. I mean, that doesn't happen every single
I don't even know how it happened, but that is
what happened. And I was like, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And when I opened these two double doors right here
in front of me to come out in the dress,
the look on Jessica's face, Shaka Khan said, ain't no body, and.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The doors flung open.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, And I stepped out that door, and the way
Jessica looked at me in that dress, she said, I
have never seen you look more beautiful. And she still
has that picture on a look on her side of
the night staying and all of the things. And I
pushed my bouquet forward and I think of that often,
(11:38):
and so much so that for our five year wedding anniversary.
I'm telling you, I don't know how lightning struck twice.
I went back to Lily's bridle and the first dress
I picked up because I wanted a short dress.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
She said, we don't have any short dresses.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And I picked up a dress and she was like,
now that's cute.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We could cut the bottom.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And then she called the designer and he said, let
me come over there and help you out. He came
to the Bridle Shop my custom dress. It was just
I could not even believe. Oh and then let me
tell you something else. The day of the party, I'm
in the dress, I'm ready, hair beat, face beat, and
(12:23):
I said, oh, this declate, this declata need a little something.
I picked up some bronzer and a pump was stuck
boom all over the dress.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, now I'm crying again.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And my folks from the Bridle Shop, the designer who
made the dress, Christopher and Lisa from Lily Bridles, rushed over.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I called.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I said, y'all, I messed this dress up. They said,
send us a picture.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
We on the way.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And when you look at my polk, I don't know
what they did, but when they picked up the dress,
they walked over to the sink, the lady said, look
away because it don't get workdic.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
They did black magic to get that white dress white.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Again, and so they fixed it and my party was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And yeah, oh, that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm definitely a girl who has had dress challenges, but
they always work out well.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I think it's so beautiful though, like it really explains
why it feels like everything with you and Jessica just
as like divine, because to have this moment, what to
plan a wedding in twenty twenty in the height of
that pandemic, Were y'all even questioning doing it?
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Or were you just kind of like why not?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
We are at this crossroads in life where I'm just
gonna do what I want.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Why not if I want to marry your woman.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Never I have never questioned celebrating love ever, and so yes,
and I don't care who showed up, I was gonna
be there. We got com in Domingo to be our
officiant Tea. He's my dear friend, and he and I
are still having a war of words about his outfit
choice to that he married us in. But that that
(14:08):
we'll say that for another place. The yellow is pretty sickening.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, I thought it looked beautiful against you all.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
That's the danger of inviting a flashy faggots to your wedding.
I'm banned from all of my friend's weddings, okay, because
they up doing too much.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But we had it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We had such a such a beautiful time and we
and we still celebrate any and everything.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I just that is just so scared having to do that,
but y'all really pulled that stuff off. But I think
what's really beautiful too, And I would love to talk
even more about the ways that one thing about you.
If we see you out, Jessica will be right there
with you. And there's also a love of appreciating like
(15:03):
you are such a beautiful amplifier to even her work,
Like you all just balance each other out right, like you.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Let her shine.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And was that something that was really important for you
in this stage of really locking in with someone knowing
that they will support you when you support them and
you can equally do the same well in.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Our early conversations, whether it's work or you know, just
day to day life. You know, we talked early on
and I said, reciprocity is the order of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I want it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Always in all ways, you know, and she was like,
I wouldn't have it any other way. So the fact
that we are there for each other is just a given.
And I mean, I've been in situations where you've been
with people and you have to play small oh you
know what I mean, and you can't dial it down.
(15:53):
But CARDI b say, don't do too much, don't know
too much. And you know in this marriage. I love
being here in this partnership because you know, we wake
up every morning and somebody is putting a battery in
somebody's bag. You know, remember who you are? Yeah, you
(16:14):
know what I mean, And so.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I love it like that. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I've been in spaces and places with my whole pedigree
and my whole self where I'm like, no, I got
the amp, I'll carry this.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Let me wrap the cord around my arm. What else
you need? You know?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Because true love is to be of service. It's not
about your who, It's about what you do. Where is
the exchange and reciprocity and when you're there for me
and I'm there for you and all the things. So
that's baked in strong.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
You know what's interesting is I feel like that's something
that you've been able to bring to a lot of
your different like character work throughout the years, and no
matter how diversely different they are, Like I'm such a
clause girly and your performance was very nuanced, which is
funny because like that was coming off of, at least
(17:04):
in my mind me growing up seeing you on Reno
nine one one and being like, oh, this bitch is wild.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Yo, Casanova, I need you to do me a favor.
I see you. I need you to stand up and
act very Come. The Reno Sheriff's Department has been peeping
out your whole gain and let us tell you what
you gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
All right, You're.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Gonna get rid of at skank poor. You're gonna ask
your baby mama to do what marry you.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Can?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I say, before I knew what a mocumittery was, I
was young when Reno nine one one came out.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I thought that shit was real.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I thought y'all were real police officers, and I thought
you were most definitely telling folks, because you know it
was it was a documentary based off of like the
show Cops, and yeah, I literally thought, at what point, I,
being a young kid watching this show, being like, oh
my god, this black police officer just told this girl
about her kitchen and her edges and how most contidents
(18:07):
don't bet.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I was like, oh, this is legendary. And then of course,
I think it.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Just speaks to the work that you all were doing
at that time, because what a brilliant show, Like, what
a brilliant show did you.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
First of all, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Second of all, I had never heard of a sketch
comedy like improv comedy troops, and I never heard of Groundlings.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Second City.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I was over there on one hundred and twenty then
for my minded my black business okay, And then when
they called and said can you audition for this show?
I just lied and was like yes, I know exactly
what how to do all of that. I sung up
that phone and I called my friend Big George, and
I'm like, what the hell is sketch?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
What do I gotta do?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And I didn't know enough to be nervous or be afraid.
I was just one hundred percent myself, and I never forget.
When I went to the first one, it was taking
such a long time, and I knocked on the door
and I said, excuse me, like, what time is this
dog and Pony show gonna get started?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And the lady said, why are you in a hurry?
I said, man, I am.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I gotta give my kids the chucky cheese about seven
o'clock the last time I got that late. They jumped
on the mouse, the head came off. The man ran
in the back and never came back out. So yeah,
I gotta go, and they were like.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Who is this little girl out of his mouth?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And so they let me come in in the audition.
And then when I came back, I got a call back.
I said, I begged my mama to watch my kids, please,
I just gotta be focused. I go to the call
back and as soon as I walked in, I said, Hey,
how's everybody doing?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
They said, what happened at Chucky Cheese? I said, what now?
I put hot fizes on Chucky cheese? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And I don't know if in that moment I was
the most talent girl that came in there, But I
do know that I was very comfortable in my skin
and I wasn't trying to be anybody else. And I
did not I didn't even step on myself to suppress,
like how I really talk, how I really move?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
How I really you know? No? No, I was just like,
what's good?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Do you miss comedy?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Like? Do you miss I mean you when you're in
me in a dramatic role. You have done so many
incredible dramatic performances. But I wonder do you miss being
in comedy? Like is that a pivot? You want to
contete it? Because I feel like people pigeonholed you once
you start doing a dramatic.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
What happened was I got stuck in doing sitcoms and
they were like, no, we know what you do, and
I was like, I'm telling y'all, I can do something else.
And then it took me so long to get them
to see that I could do something else. The first
thing that I did was a show on HBO called
Getting On. I got two Emmy nominations from Nashal and
then all of a sudden people forgot I was funny.
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I got, you know, passed to play all of these
dramatic roles. And so now I'm on this side of
the line trying to figure out how to get back
on that side of the line, because I love the balance,
you know. I love to be able to do both.
And mind you, when I was filming Dahmer, which I
won the Emmy for, I was also filming the renal
(21:24):
nine to one one movie Hunt for Q and I
at the same time, Take the booty off, take the
baby here all go, Put on my glasses.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And beat Glenda Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Take off my glasses, put the booty back on dry
back across town.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So I was able to film them at the same time.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Wow, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Was that a trip?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Like?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Was that like more fulfilling for you to get to
express yourself in these dramatically different ways, or was it
like sometimes was it ever difficult to be like, oh shit,
the booties on, but I'm still not here, No.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Because you know, you know why, because you know why,
I'm not a method actor.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I take it off. When I take it off is off.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So I never felt like, Oh, I have the work
to do to come up out of this character, to
be able to get into this one.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I was like, ooh, I feel like laughing.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Hey, y'all, you know, come in right, come into the
next bid, and you know, and get on up out
of there. So I enjoy both equally, But I am
dying to do something funny.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
And what does that look like for you?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Cause, I mean, one thing that I know about you
is you have such a wonderful community around you, like
then your network, right like you and Ryan Murphy seem
to just understand and get each other on levels where
I mean, y'all been working with each other since I
think I read nineteen ninety eight when he cast you
in like a WB project.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It was quite popular a thousand years ago, and.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Like, I'm like to know that your network and your
relationship ones that stayed so strong with each other. Talk
to us a little bit about that, right because I'm
assuming when you find someone who just gets you, that's
those are.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
The people that you want to work with the rest
of your career.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well you know what, It's not only that, but I
love Ryan's creativity.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Like I'm like, how does your mind work? How did
you think it is? Get it from?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And I love I love him, you know what I mean.
I get to see a different side of him. He's
very stoic when he's out. Now that's somebody who don't
do too much. But I get to see him beyond
the veil, and I just enjoy him as a person.
And he will always and forever Ryan Murphy and Ava
Duverney will forever have me at hello.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah. Wooh, that's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
That's so strong.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Because I said yes to Damer and didn't even know
what it was. He just called and was like, hey,
I've got this thing I want you to do and
I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Then he sent it and.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I was like, yeah, is that okay?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Way to bury the lead?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like but now there's a trust I'm assuming between you
two where it's like, you know, if you're gonna knock
on your door or call you, it's gonna be something
that's median that you are going to automatically want to do.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's beautiful And I have been having such a good
time with the ladies on alswhere so very true. You
are not taking so much as a ballpoint pen out
of this building enough edging counselor let us come already now?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Is that gonna be a little fun?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I feel like you that shows particularly it's coming off
as a drama, but I feel like you're gonna be
bringing some of the comedy chops to it though.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Right, it's a drama, but it also has a little camp.
You know, it's a workplace, but you get a follow
all of the girls home. Yeah, but we all play
a vorsee attorneys at a very high power firm that
Kim Kardashian's character, Alure Grant is the head of Why
did I feel.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Like that is drama and comedy in and of itself,
Like legit, that's just amazing for how beautiful this is
recognizing who we all are outside of our characters. Oh yeah,
I'm curious though, because I feel like I've had a
lot of conversations with Ryan this year talking about how
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horror is blending a lot as a genre with like
comedy and even like, yeah, like romantic movies. Would you
ever like consider stepping in something that is a comedically
sharpened like horror role. They're like, yeah, you get to
be a scream queen, but you also like, I don't know,
like have extra giant tits and they're green.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
I don't know, this just sounded like a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Actually, was that Wait a minute, what's the name of
that cartoon? I did it? That far act?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
That is a character that I'll play. Yeah, Bohmer was
in it. Oh, human resources boom.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I don't know why my mind wasn't going there.
Literally said said, I was like, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And I and I shot rockets out of the girls
she did.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You know, I'm up for pretty much anything, and you know,
and anything I have never done always excites me. You know,
I've never played a villain. I'm looking forward to doing that,
you know at some point, you know, it's just some
things where you say, oh, I have never done this,
I've never done that, and if it's on a never
done list.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You're always like sign me up.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Thank you. So do you consider yourself to be an
actual scream queen? I know we've called you that here
and I was kind of having what we were talking
about having you on. I was like, yes, she's a
scream queen, but it's not like in like the traditional
nineties cent And I.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Was like, Ryan Waite, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
But she's not the one being chased by Slasher and
like screaming, right, She's doing more like dramatic also true
crime work that is like actually telling stories of real
situations that have happened. And I knew I had to ask.
I was like, well, do you consider yourself to be
a scream queen? Besides being in the hit show Scream Queens?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You know, I don't know if I would consider myself
to be a scream queen. I played a lot more
cops detectives than anything. Yeah, you know, I've done a
lot of that, you know what I mean. I played
a lot of roles where I get to bring the
handcuffs home.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I know, that's right, Okay, that's because like people already
have a cop fantasy and no tie you're too pretty
to be a scream queen. Like scream queens have to
have weird faces, you know, like you're too symmetrical. Your
eyes aren't like very close together, very like crazy far apart.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
You know, say thank you, Yeah, just take that as
the beautiful compliment. But I think it's really really great
to want to see your career and the ways that
it's been able to like ebb and flow. And I
know you do a lot of personal curating in what
you decide to do and what you want to do.
(28:23):
Talk to us a little bit about that, Like have
you felt more of the freedom to say yes to
things versus you know, are saying no to things that
you don't necessarily feel like or do you still feel
like you just want to keep grabbing hold to all
the things while you're in this moment.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
And what's your favorite thing to say no to?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, I'll tell you it's this here.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
When you first get into business, you say yes to
them near everything because you trying to get on. You
got to feed your family, you gotta pay rent, you
gotta buy Ramen noodles or whatever the case is, right,
so you're like, oh yeah, I'll play clerk number three,
you know, in all of these things. But then you
move into space where you start to be more selective.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
If you've worked long enough.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And you know the most high aligns at all in
your favor, that's when you can afford to say no.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You can say no because it's gonna cost me my time,
my peace, my energy. You could say no because I
just didn't respond to the material, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's a number of reasons.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
But you know, Hollywood is not used to your no though,
because everybody is so hungry.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
To get their careers going. It's just yes to everything. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
And I remember I remember, very very early on in
my career, before I could afford too, I actually said
no to something and my agents and everybody was up
in the arms about it, like why wouldn't you do
this thing? And it was this girl, not because she
was a prostitute, but she was getting beat up by
her pimp, and it was, you know, kind of one
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of them things you got daddy money.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah, the money.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All of this, and that the point was where I
was in that space in my life. My children were little,
and I didn't want to walk around in the energy
all day of being beat up and thrown across the
concrete for sixteen hours.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I was just like, no, I don't want to do it,
like protect your energy versus.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Just from an energy standpoint, not the roll or anything
like that. It was just the energy that I was
going to be screamed at and cussed out for sixteen hours.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
And I was like, no, you're like it and it's
not even a part now, No, it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Was no, Yeah, it's it's that's so important, right because
I just remember, like I've seen you quote being like
I am the blueprint, right, like I am the person
that is in charge, and that feels like that's always
been a part of your work, which is not necessarily
a thing. I mean even when you won your Emmy.
(31:17):
Let's just start there. When you won your Emmy went
and you think yourself, it went everywhere. I mean it
was one of the most viral moments from the Emmys
that year. And you know who I want to think,
I want to thank me.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Fuck believe it in me and doing what they said
I could not do.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And it was like, well, are people shocked that you
put yourself first? And you like are taking yourself for
this work that you've been able to because.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's like, as soon as I made it in the back,
they said, why did you say that? Yeah, as soon
as I made it to the family, to the press line,
they said, why did you thank yourself?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And I said, because I'm the only one who knows
what all of this cost me.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I know how many nice I cried. I know how
many nights I had to spend away from my children.
I know what it was like to crawl across the floor,
and I know what it's like to have people look
at you and not see you the way you see yourself.
So when I was backstage, I said, that's why it's
not called mama esteem and them esteem and us esteem.
It's called self esteem because don't nobody got to believe
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it but you.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
So yes, thank me?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, get into a girl because you you sometimes you
have to encourage your own self.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And so I was like, yeah, thank me.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Is that something that comes with like.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Because I love hearing this and I always feel like
when people talk about it, especially like accomplished folks, it,
I always wonder, like that's not something immediately that you
find out right, Like that's something that comes with time
and like experience.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I feel like for me, I can't speak for anyone else,
but I knew as a child. You know that I
was different. You understand what I'm saying. And I knew it.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I knew it very very early on, and even before
I started auditioning. When I said I wanted to be
an actor at five years old, you know, it was
people in my family that was like, girl, she ain't
gonna do nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
She's so shy.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And I had this one aunt that used to say
all the time, my aunt Tie Shirley used to say
that girl.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Gonna be some.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I said, now you see it. Now you say the vision,
you know? And I felt like I always knew. When
I was seven, I saw ed Asner out on a
Hollywood Walk of Fame and I was like, I don't
know you, but I know you be on TV, and
I just want you to know that I'm gonna be
famous one day too, and I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Star right here on this ground. And he was like, yeah, kids,
gram and I was like, my name is Nacey ray Man.
My name.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And when I got my star on the Hollywood Walk
of Fame, I sent a letter and asked if he
could come. He sent me a letter back and said
I'm so grateful you didn't let a crotch of the
old man step on your dream. And of course I
know your name. And then he said I'm unable to come,
and I said, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, thank you for the letter.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
The day before I got a call from his team
and said he'll be there.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Really, ed Asner came to my start.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I couldn't even look over where he was sitting because
I was gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
My fake eyelash was off. I was like, I can't
look at the man. I gotta wait till it's over with,
you know. So I just knew early, Like and when
I used to go to castles and they would be like, sorry,
we're gonna go another way. I said, I feel bad
for y'all. Girl, I'm really the one you should have been. Yeah,
I would say that all you know. It wasn't an act.
(34:51):
It was honestly how I felt. And then one time
I was in the cast and the people gonna lean
their heads together and say, she got I mean her
face cue you think she could lose weight?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I said, no, I can't lose weight.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
But I.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
How dare they actually like, how dare you discuss my
body like this?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But oh, my goodness, it's but like not really showing
a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But I was like, I'm gonna get even fatter, So
what we gonna do?
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Like what's the problem.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, yeah, it got real indy that part.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And I remember one time I went to this audition
was way far out. I got out there before I
even picked up the script. I said, let me tell
y'all something. Y'all should have told people. This was just far.
I didn't drove all the way out here. You should
have told me y'all needed a sack lunch. You should
have told me I was gonna need to use the
bathroom two three times before I got out of here.
I said, So, now, I don't know if y'all giving
(35:50):
me this role, but y'all gonna hire me to do something.
Y'all need somebody to file papers or what we doing
because I'm not leaving with her.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
And I know that all from because what I know
about you for sure also is you've always led with
like your faith, and yeah, that also leads you in
a lot of way. And I wondered, especially with you
balancing your faith and even like your queer identity, if
that's the language that you use, how have you been
(36:20):
able to navigate both your faith and your belief systems
while also knowing it's complicated when it comes to queer folks.
Did you have to unlearn things about yourself and what
you've been taught. What did that journey look like for
you when it came to your faith?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
What The one thing I will say about that is
that I was raised in church.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Same I'm a koj girl.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And you learned certain things, and you learn how they
feel about it, You learn what they like, what they
don't like, and they gonna tell you what's to it
and what's going on, and they're going to find a
scripture to justify it. The best advice I was ever
given is that you got to know the most time
for yourself, right, So that's outside.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Of all the other noise.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And you also have to then start if you're gonna study,
you can't just stop at the one book, because you
got to figure out how the stuff got in the book.
And when you realize that the same people who gave
you Christianity also handed you slavery on the self of platter,
you said, now wait.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
A minute, this can be this can't be. Whoa whoa
whoa whoa wa almost.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Sexuality actually put into the Bible. Now wait a minute,
you know, and you do a further dive, and then
you find out, like in some communities that people who
had a dual sexuality were highly regarded as the highest
form of being in that village, in that town, in
that community. You know, and you say, you know, at
(37:48):
the basis of this, if it's love, then just do that.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
If that's the bottom line, because.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Everybody agrees, they don't matter what religion it is, everybody
agrees the bottom line to what is love. So when
you start to judge, to say, but what I'm going
to heaven and you not? Or you right and I'm wrong,
you missed the love part. Yeah, so I just decided
to live in the love part and let the chips
fall what they may.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Okay, I have a question for you. Could you and
or would you.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Like to come to my next Thanksgiving dinner with my
family because I need somebody else on my team. It's
just me out here spending all those facts being like no, no, no, your.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Bible says love.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Also, you can't wear that cashmeir and that linen.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know, I'll be there. I'll pull up. Now.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I do make a mean pot of greens. You know,
you don't go to nobody's house empty handed. Well, I
will bring uh, you know, I'll bring something, but it's
probably not anything that I could.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Probably they're like, go pick up these pies. No, but
I think that is.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Really beautiful and I appreciate you for talking about that,
right because it is something, especially in this time where
I could imagine, you know, this world of queerness is honey,
it is something else once you really start finding community
and you start to understand the intra kind of like
community conversations that are happening, and I think, I wonder,
(39:23):
have you learned anything new about yourself during this time
in your life that has really stuck with you?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
You're so kind.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
He's trying to ask, have you gotten geary?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
You know, I don't know if gotten gayer is the
term that applied, although I have been.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I'm the Queer of the year. I will cleaning the
parades and you know all of the things.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
I think you have gotten gayer.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
So please, Well, the one thing that I will say
is that what I do realize is how much just
showing up matters to the community.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
So we not only are we a queer couple, but
now we're a celebrity, you know, forward couple. Now we
are black on black love, you know what I mean.
It just keeps, you know, so many things keep being
added to the Moniker and I just love that people
(40:28):
can see themselves in us. When we were on the
cover of Essence, the first queer couple to ever be
on the cover in fifty two years of the magazine,
we got so much male so many people reached out,
whether it was you know, DMS or Facebook or you
know where.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
They just felt like their hands were gonna pop off.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
They've never seen it in their lifetime, in fifty two years,
they've never had that.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Yeah, gorgeous cover, by the way.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And so I don't take it lightly that people could
see themselves in me, or also that for some my
relationships bring.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Some normalcy to just loving who you love.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
See because you started off with this question, they loved
me before, right two husbands ago, you know. And so
some people fell off the ride when I married Jessica,
but more people joined the ride, and I got those
people who were like, well I liked her, now I
don't want to unlike her.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Because of this, I sick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
So then that makes you go look at your cousin
who you was being shady to, and go look at
the man you gotta work with and who you was,
you know what I mean. So it normalized loving who
you love. For some people who's you know, crossed our
path and I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I love that too. You just make my heart flutter.
It's so wonderful to hear you speaking, to hear you
talk about your love. And we love to ask every
guest on this show the prime question of the show.
What are you high key about?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
What is all on your mind?
Speaker 5 (42:12):
It can be a person, place, thing for idea, something
that pisses you off, something that pisses on you.
Speaker 6 (42:18):
What are you hikey about?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
You know what I'm really high key about. I'm really
high key about people minding their business. Mind the business
that pays you. Go out if it's somebody and you
don't like what they post the people. If you know
you gonna feel the way when you go over to
(42:41):
your people house for Thanksgiving, don't go go somewhere else
where you're gonna be celebrated and not tolerated. Mind your business.
Mind the business that bes your soul. Mind the business
that pays your bills, and mind the business that keeps
you emotionally satiated.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So when people are like, oh this that girl, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
You, because I was somewhere minded my black business, all
of my black business. I don't need nobody to call here.
I don't need no company, I don't need nothing. Mind
your business.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Worry about yourself and you'll you'll be a lot better off.
And I'm real hotkey about that.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Oh you ain't that That might be the best high
key we've had.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
On this show.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
If you don't have no business, get some and then
mind it.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
I know that's right, and that's why I'm still here.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Thank you so much for being on high key.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Please come back all the time, anytime, whatever you want,
any time.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Literally, if I.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Bring JB, absolutely absolutely I would love that, because what
I don't know is JB was helping me. See set
up I had on this fine rope. I'm like, you
know what, it's just a fine thuffle.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
They just fine.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Thank you, Oh my god, thank you so much, DC.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Thanks guy, hike you.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Oh my god, what a wonderful conversation with the legend
the NC Nash, which I was right.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
I knew she was not going to consider herself a
scream queen.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
You were right.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Everybody on the team thought she was a scream queen,
and I was just like, she is not a scream queen.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
And you were even like, bitch you said that.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I was like, what, So I feel like I thought
y'all for sure thought that she was a scream queen.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
I'm sorry I threw you under the bus. I was
getting lonely in the afterworld. It's just me and all
these little snot rocket ghosts I've been making.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
It's my cousin, which I'm like, which is so funny
because I'm like, now is the time where we talk
about our high keys of the week, and I feel
like you've just been really like high key sick, and
so I don't.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Even know if you have anything, but do you want
me to go first?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
And do you want to go I'll just take it
away because I have been hikey sick, and so II
you need to bitch about something real quick.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Which is it.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
When somebody else wanted to hear that?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
When when somebody is not texting you back and they're
publicly post like, hey, y'all, I'm sick, and then they
text you back.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Hey I'm sick. Just let them die in peace.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Oh actually, girl, girls like it.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
It is this season.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
You don't want to see me. Whether it's for family
love or friendship or like good dick, all you will
get is some ghostly gool glop right now.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Girl, it is not good. Okay. So there's that.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And my actual high key is a video game. I'm
just playing video games, okay.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Which honestly I went through the same thing not long ago.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
But I was also sick and I wasn't responding to
text messages, and a friend specifically like playfully but like
was also dead ass, was like if I text you
and you don't say anything.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
I was like, girl, I was sick, Like what.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Do you mean I can't just girl, I gotta save
all my battery for the afterlife.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
Or oh my, what video game are you playing?
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Okay, I'm playing Hades two, which is the sequel to
Hades one. It's about Greek gods and stuff, which is
like some of my favorite bs, and it's really good
at being a video game for a sick person who
doesn't want to text people back right now.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
That's so real, right.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
What are you What are you playing right now?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I am not high key about whatever is happening on
the other side of the screen, but I.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Always know that's not playing. What are you high key about? Sorry?
The sick meds are hidden?
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I at least you're not one of those like miserable
sick people who just like whine and complain.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
You have like energy and you're.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
Still cameras on when the ship cuts off, you are
getting a mouthful and an ear full.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
Like this pieces a ship. How dare you embarrass me
in front of our fans?
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I'm high key about And maybe while you're resting and
getting some rest, you should be playing Khalid's new album,
After the Sun Goes Down.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Start.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
I've always been a fan of Khalid.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I think Khalid is like so cool and his voice
texture is always.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
Really so sexy.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
And now that he is an openly queer artist, black
queer artists doing this work is really really important to
put a spotlight on it. And I'm very very happy
that it seems like I've heard him talk about this album,
and he's talked about how like I think his first
album was American Teen and it felt like it was
like freedom in some ways, and how this album also
(48:00):
just feels like a next chapter and level of freedom
that he's experiencing now. Of course, you know he was
awfully outed, but I'm just happy that he's pushed through
and created some really great music out of the experience.
And I just really desperately want him on the show.
I think I've seen him on on other shows and
they've been great interviews, but I just think there's something
(48:22):
to like seeing him around like other black queer folks.
I think we could just have a really great conversation
about Oh.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
Yes, Ryan, that's a great high key. You desperately want
Khalid on the show. I desperately want Khalid.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
And I have a story about Khalid too. When I
first met.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Him, is it gonna make me?
Speaker 5 (48:39):
What?
Speaker 6 (48:39):
Is it gonna be? Like weird already?
Speaker 3 (48:41):
But I met him first at a I was hosting
a Coachella. It was like when I was doing radio
that we had a Coachella house and he was there
and he took pictures with us, and like I was
so gay, Like I was, I had like a neon
crop top on, different hair, Like my hair was sitting
up and I just remember telling him, like looking him
in his face, being like, you know, people always say
(49:02):
that we because we have similar hairstyle, Like people always
try to say that we look alike. And I just
remember him looking at me, and I interpreted at the
time being like, why is this faggot.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
Talking to me? But I was.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
I don't think he'll ever remember that, but I just
also will be like, huh, was I like.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Your vision board of gains?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
You're like, oh shit, wait, I.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Could do that, but no, I hope we wanted to
get to have him on the show, but that's a rap.
Thank you so much for hanging out with us this week.
Don't go anywhere next week because we are so excited.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
We have a RuPaul's Drag Race sister coming on.
Speaker 5 (49:38):
Don't we have the Demon Queen herself or as her
new branding is gone, God's favorite trends sexual and my
favorite too.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
It's mosco. Yes, it's gonna be so good. Stick around, you.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Know it's gonna be good. If she got banned from Twitter.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Oh, I can't wait to talk to her about it,
because like, girl, what were you doing until then?
Speaker 6 (50:01):
Make sure you're following us on Instagram and.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
TikTok at high Key here, we're posting, we're lurking, and
of course don't forget to give us your reviews all
five stars please on the Apple podcast. It really does
make a difference. We love you very much.
Speaker 6 (50:15):
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
We'll see you in the after life.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Ah, this might be your greatest work.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I feel like it looks like diet Clan.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Well it kind of does, actually, now that you bring
it up. Yeh, take it back, and this is this
is not your greatest work.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
If you're hikey obsessed with our show, take a second
to follow or subscribe so you never miss an episode.
And while you're at it, rate us, drop a review
and tell your friends.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
If you want to keep the high key key going,
join us on Instagram and TikTok at high Key here,
and of course on Patreon, where we are literally dropping
all that spicy ass tea every week.
Speaker 6 (51:01):
See you there.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Hi Key is a production of iHeart Podcasts as a
part of the Outspoken Network.
Speaker 6 (51:07):
This show is created and executive produced by Ryan Mitchell,
Bbadley and Spoke Media.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Our showrunner is Tyler Greenen. Our producers are Kelly Kolff
and Katie Allis Greer. Our video producer is Bo Delmore,
and our video editor is Luis Peia.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Our audio engineer Sammy Sirich.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
Special thanks to Jenna Burnett and Tess Ryan.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Executive producers for Spoke Media are Travis Lamont Ballinger and
Aleiah Tabacoli.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
Our iHeart team is Just Crime Chich and Sierra Kaiser, and.
Speaker 6 (51:34):
Our fame music is by the one and only Kayan
Hersey and
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Our show art is by Work by Work, with photography
by Eric Carter
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