September 8, 2025 • 47 mins
Yvie and Ryan ditch the guests and share their own origin stories. From Yvie’s original Drag Race audition tape to Ryan’s early hosting cringe, they revisit the moments that shaped their paths. They spill on slutty massages, self-care routines, awkward exes, and what it means to grow up queer in Denver and Nashville. They dig into fandom drama, fashion fails (fake gauges included), and even why WALL·E might have predicted our future.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I literally am about to I feel like I'm bringing
in the hives as we speak right now. Oh, I
have so much to say, don't even don't shut your phone,
so much.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To say, Oh okay, what okay?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Number one? You were such a preppy little I'm not
a faggot, ass faggot like, I love you so so much?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What our friends, Welcome back to High Key. I'm Ryan Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And I'm Evie Oddly, and today we're going way back,
like audition tape receipts back.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hanny, Oh my god, I think I'm getting the ex Yep,
we're dragging out the archives Evie's original drag race audition
and a throwback video of me being oh my god,
like an American ego ad I'm way too preppy.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Plus we're talking myself that got a little slutty exes
who still haunt us, and what it means to grow
up queer in Denver, Nashville and anywhere we exist.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Plus we get hotcakes on garage cells, cartoon chaos, and
why Wily basically predicted the future.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
If you want the uncut tea our full reactions, behind
the scenes, chaos, and after party vibes, join us at
patreon dot com slash hi key.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
But first let's kick things off with the hiki key.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Doug and I went to get a couple's massage, our
favorite place here, and they are really good, and they
like go really nice and deep and give you champagne
and chocolate, strawberries and shit like it's all delicious.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Always like a fancy spot.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I don't know about that. It's always in some different
warehouse building. I had to drive halfway across the state
this time.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So that actually sounds like you're getting like happy endings
in that sort of a location versus it be like
a Burke Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's funny you should say that because that is the
exact issue. That is exactly the issue is. Like when
we started going there, I don't think either of us
had ever been in a massage situation that was like
tantrick or sexual or whatever you want to call it,
like happy ending.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, But since then, I think we've both explored a
lot more. And so while he can still like go
get a massage and they'll be and be like, yeah,
come beat me up, and they'll be like yeah, throw
their whole elbow pussy into his back. Uh, I feel
like I need somebody who can be really really intimate
(02:39):
with my body, whether that be because they already have
like a relationship with how it works, what its limits are,
or because they're trying to fuck you know, they're like, wow,
I really appreciate this body stretching it out Like.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, that's the thing I guess with massages, like there's
a professionalism where it doesn't I feel as intimate as
it possibly could, unless you're like hiring someone that also
does massuse work and is possibly a sex worker.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
See, all of this was a really long roundabout way
of saying. After Doug and I went and got our
couple's massage, I went and got a slutty massage.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You did a double massage.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, like two in one week. I was like, wow,
the intimate one worked out like my back and shoulders
like they're allowed to. And I went and got the
slutty massage, and he was literally like stretching me out
like gumby, like like it was like yoga. He like
have my foot above my head and my other foot
like above his head, and he'd like tickle my taint
(03:42):
with his mustache or something. Oh. I cried a little
bit when he would like work out muscles.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I've literally never experienced that sort of massage. The only
massage that I've ever gone to are like the ones
at Burke Williams, and I you know, I go there.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
For now, it's Burke Williams.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Burke Williams is like it's not really that fancy, but
it is like one of those like little fancy spots
where you can go and get like a massage, and
they have like a little spot area and like the
steam room, the open pool and let the locker room
all that stuff. But like that's the only extent I've
only ever done those sort of like massage. I've never
done a happy ending massage. And I mean, if I'm
(04:21):
being honest, when you're talking about getting message, I'm like,
do you have to get a massage? Probably more regularly
than most people because of like your bones and how
they need to heal over time.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's something I only really got into in the last
few years, like while I was dating Doug, because I
would come home after months of touring and be so
stiff and just like have to lay there forever, and
he'd be like, why don't we just go get a massage,
And I'd be like, I don't even know what that
word is, Like, bitch, my mom never taught us a
(04:53):
lot of self care. She like duck, didn't teach us
to use like different soap for our face and our asshole.
Like she was like, what the fuck is a massage?
And you guys should clip your nails eventually. I guess
I don't know, it's your life. I don't care if
my children look like like savages and we're all just
like climbing up curtains and dirty loincloths and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Shit, like Baby's kids or something.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I always think of Baby's kids because they would make
that reference. People would make that reference to my mom's kids. Really, like,
that's so rough. I had no idea what they were
talking about. Oh wait, you said you have kids.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
These are Baba's kids.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I went and watched it, and I was like, nah,
that is so rude. There's only three of us and
we're so chill.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I think this is actually a really great start to
what this episode is going to look like. Now we're
not about to like go in full trauma dumt mode
or talking about but I think we're going to get
to know each other a little bit more right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Today's Today's a little different.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We don't have a guest, it's just we Edie and
I just wanted it to be us too, you know,
two girlfriends.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, just like a real, real chill time. Because okay,
so here's at least my thing is Ry and I
have been working together for a period of time now
that I don't know what it is. I'm going to
say at least this year.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who literally.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It was just this year, But I feel I feel
like there's this really dope chemistry that happens when we FaceTime,
and like I actually kind of like picking up your calls,
even though I have the horrible anxiety about my phone
because I know we're going to key a little and.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Oh absolutely, which I have really enjoyed that too. Like
I love our our face times because I remember, and
maybe we can get into this after this break, because
of course I have all these thoughts and questions that
I want to ask you to you just about you,
and of course I want to know about the Eedy
before drag Race and like what that looked like. But
(06:52):
I just I just remember before we started facetiming, before
like early stages of us working together I was kind
of nervous to just pick up the phone to like
call you, Like I just wasn't sure if we were
at that level of our friendship yet, and so to
once we did it and it felt so like nice,
I was like, oh, yeah, let's lock it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Let's let's go ahead and get this going, right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's so like, that's so funny to hear because we're
still not at that level. No shame, no, shay it
actually no, no, it's so weird. Like Doug always makes
fun of me because whenever I do notice my phone
and know where she is, I'll answer calls. But that's
also part of the reason that I spend so long
(07:35):
like detached from it, because I don't want to. I
will get so distracted. There's so many things in this world,
even outside of the one device that controls so much
of my life. Yeah, so, but like, if I'm ever
there and see your name, I'll pick up. I will
get distracted. I will be late for the gig.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The gag is I don't know if I can even
say the same, but because I'm also I'm equally as
bad with my phone, if I'm being quite honest.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But I think here's the thing. This all kind of
this conversation that.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
We're having right now is all sort of a pregame
to our larger conversation that we wanted to do for
today's episode, because literally we don't have a guest, and
we were like, how about you know even and I
just like hang out with each other. We haven't done
that yet, and honestly, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'm really excited because today I feel like we're gonna
get to know like at least big pieces of how
we got here. And my question for you would be like,
what is the big step you took towards what brought
you to where you are today? And we happen to
have a bit of one of your early interviews.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's not even an early interview.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
This is like a baby like I think, like Cringey
hosting moment, but same I want. I had you pull
your RuPaul's Drag Race audition tape that I want to
react to.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I got to see the one that I got on, right.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yes, the one that got you on to end up
being season eleven winners.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
My drag name comes from the Latin term evy, which
means even and oddly, which means odder.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So you all please, this is gonna be incredible. If
he's gonna play a clip for me, but if you
want to see the full twenty minutes, it's up on
our Patreon at patreon dot com slash high key here.
You're gonna get all of these episodes early on Fridays,
plus an exclusive you know, twenty thirty minutes where we
just shooting the shit, because that's what we've been doing. Yeah,
(09:31):
because I think we've most definitely been releasing our episodes
on Fridays, but we decided to move onto Mondays.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Start the week with us, don't end the.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Week with us, Ray blast us out loud in the
office with your coworkers, and then get pulled in by
HR being like, I don't know if you should be
listening to that content outside of your headphones.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
All right, Well, we're gonna take a quick little brag
when we're back, though. Get ready, because oh my god,
I'm so excited. I cannot wait to see like this
AUDI should tape for yours.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh it's gonna be exciting.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Iike, Okay, welcome back, eighty.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think it's time that we show the people your
season eleven Drag Race, Abdition now this is the one
that got you into the season that you won. I'm
super excited. Okay, before we started, are you excited? I'm
you nervous. Was the last time you watched this thing?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I used to watch it like every few years or so.
I don't know. I can't say that hasn't been that
long for me, but like, I used to watch it
pretty consistently, specifically because other Denver queens after I got on,
were like, okay, show me your tape, show me like
what you did.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
They were like, is there a format to like, is
there a formula to sort of get their attention?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well, that's what I was wondering. The formula I kept
trying to share with them is like number one, find
a way to break the rules, and then number two
be good.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Actually, just have talent.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, just have talent, You talentless little bit. You'll never
be me willow pill.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Dragger.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So I'm pretty excited because I haven't watched it in
a couple of years. But from what I remember, I'm
so proud of this, like even before it got me
on drag Race. So let's see what we see.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh my god, twenty eighteen, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is no, it really is hi.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
My name is Javon Bridges or ev Oddley.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
It's four years old from the Mile High City, Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Ev Oddly is.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
A quirky goofball.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
She's a little bit sexy, but mostly like a cartoon character.
My drag persona is like bubbly, How young you, Dave Mischievan?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Oh hi, I didn't see you there. Today we're going
to be learning how to cook up this delicious light.
You'll needs paper plates, a glue gun, spray plates. I
have a bunch of shapes on these paper plates.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Can you just cut away?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Duo?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
This is gonna be beautiful, all right, here's what it
turned out by.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
This gorgeous plate.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
You're gonna take glue in ample amounts.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
The dress?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Like so this.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Stress is about racial tensions and I've finished it by
painting one half black and painting one half white. Already
licked my toe.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I'm gonna go for the butt hole this time.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
What the dragon comes from the Latin term evy, which
means even, and oddly, which means odd.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
The drag scene in Denver is starting to bloom, and
it's only due to a few evolutionaries were expanding, and
I'm I'm at the forefront. I'm a revolutionary. I'm the
next drive superstar because there's nothing I won't try to
take that crown. I will flip on and off and
inside and out. I will fly off that goddamn stage.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, I have so
many questions. One, you were so young too. Was that
like a little gay boy voice that you had. Yeah,
like you have such a different voice, that like texture
to your voice now, I mean it's a little tweaky
gay boy in that video.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, my voice definitely has gotten gravelier because of like
ten more years of abusing it and shouting into microphones,
heavy drinking, smoking, practicing doing this or you know, my
misvangye impersonation like it's But also the thing is they
(13:57):
had like the videos had to be twenty minuts are
under and I've always been the stoner that I am
who speaks very slowly, like there's space for like twenty
miss Vangies in between each word I say. So I
was like, that was the year I finally took the
task of editing my video myself, and I was like,
(14:19):
you're just gonna be who you are, You're gonna like
ramble as slowly as you ramble, You're gonna cut out
a bunch of shit, and then you're gonna speed it
all up a bit.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Wait so you edited all of that yourself?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
E Okay, so you I mean, honestly, it's so interesting,
Like what was I guess what was going on during
that time in your life? Like what even made you
be like, Okay, I'm just going to like do this
for real, for real?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Like, well, I had auditioned every year I was old enough. Basically,
I'm pretty sure I had auditioned twice before, and I
poured my all into these tapes. But the issue was
there was just like always this disc connect between who
I really am and how I presented on the tapes.
(15:06):
And by that, I mean you could tell I was nervous.
You could tell that I was a baby queen in
some respects, like in the way that I was uncomfortable
being in front of the cameras. I was treating it
like a job interview. And so not only were the
ways I was answering those questions terrible, and I'm funny
and I'm sexy and trying too hard and probably said
(15:27):
Kuda bitch.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Said, I think you're being a little hard on yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
No no, no, no no no, those ones were great. This
is the best thing I've ever done. I was like,
just watching that back, I was surprised. I was like, damn,
I was funnier in my Drag Race audition tape than
I was on two seasons of Drag Race.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
But there is there is such an energy because I've
never auditioned for like a show, right, Like I've never
to be quite honest, I've actually never auditioned for anything
except for like for the first time last year from
like an E show that didn't end up like getting
picked up. And I had never auditioned for anything, and
I never self tape. I was like so nervous when
(16:10):
I was trying to figure out even how to fucking
do it, and so to know, like you sent in
this like audition tape and you were just like, fuck it,
I'm just gonna do it, and like, you know, just put.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Myself out there and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It it works, you feeled avoid I guess, are you
filled a hole that they were looking for in that season.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I really am proud of that, specifically because at some point,
We're gonna have to go and watch like my older
ones so you can see, like why I'm so critical
because I've always been a really dope ass drag queen.
I've always been really rough and crunchy.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, But before it was like you were watching me
in a job interview being like.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I'm eviy oddly and I'm here to uh snatch the
crown because I'm a weirdo, and it's like, bitch, no,
I wanted to show you all the I'm funny and
I'm here to fight.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But what I guess what shaped your weirdoness? Like when
you were was it just being in Denver? Was it
just like does the community just everybody there was just weird?
Or were you kind of like.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's like, were you just leading there?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Like no, it's not like there weren't ever any like
weirdos before me, but there wasn't really a space for
it to succeed in Denver. To have succeeded in Denver,
you had to be like a long hair wearing I
have some like Real Housewives name is one of your
thirty names right, performing in a sparkly body suit, and
(17:40):
I'm pretty sure I like went off on some mean
ass rant in that whole audition video, just describing how
much I was bored by Denver's drag scene, so like
it was, I don't know, it was like I really
wanted to get on, and I needed to get on
because I saw myself trapped in this place where I
wanted to be a part of queer culture and I
(18:02):
wanted to only ever work gay jobs ever forever in
my life. But I was just feeling trapped by the
fact that no matter how hard I tried to change
things and make them better and create spaces here, like
I don't know, it just seemed like people were so
determined to just be boring as fuck.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
No, it sort of sounds like it sort of sounds
like when I kind of hit my wits end from
like living in Nashville and was just like, I don't
think I can do this anymore. I've done everything that
I potentially could do here, like I've met the people
I was supposed to meet. I feel like I was
I figured myself out enough, but I was like there
was so much more to like the world are like,
(18:47):
at least to get out of my small town of
fucking Laverne, Tennessee. To get out of and when I
decided to like move to LA, I had no clue
what I was really like going to do, but I
just felt like, okay, why not. I mean, if my
two the two people who I'm closest to in my
life are like down to do that at that time,
(19:08):
they're gonna have to come with me. At least I
have like a built in support system. But like moving
out here, when I was twenty two, I didn't know
what the fuck I was like thinking, are doing?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So did you? Did you move with friends? Though?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I did, I moved with my now ex boyfriend and
my now ex best friend.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Wow, why did I call that? In my head? Wait?
The only thing, the last thing to answer question answered
about that question is are they both your exes? Because
they're together?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No? No, no, no, no no no, they're what I'm what.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
My ex boyfriend's my ex because he was a liar
and a cheater for a very long time and honestly,
we probably shouldn't even have moved here together.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
You piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean, you know, we all make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
We were young, and my old best friend we once
we moved out here, and we like, I mean, we
lived together for so long, and when the pandemic hit,
we decided to move out. But during that transition of
like moving out, we just like realized that we kind
of were just losing our friendship and uh.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Grew different grew different ways.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Grew different ways. We were like it sucked.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Actually, it's something that I still think about in a
lot of ways because it just was unexpected at the time,
and I was getting into my career and I was
really like figuring out what I was doing out here,
wanted to do out a here, and I think, you know,
when you start to really feel that shift in between
a friendship, it's like you don't want to leave someone behind.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But sometimes like that's just where you know.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
That's just how it works. Sometimes, like that's what growth
is and how life works is our paths hopefully can
if you love someone, hopefully your path will like recross
again someday and hopefully we'll both be old enough and
mature enough and close enough to death to be like, wow,
I cherish every moment I guess with you, I'll see
in another twenty years, friend, Like.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do you want to see do you want to see
me at like twenty two?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Old?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Ryan Like, do you want to.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
See a video, so do Okay, okay, yeah, wait is
that how young we are? We're twenty two year old? Ryan?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Set me up, girl, I think I'm twenty two.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I am.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I'm no longer working in fashion.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I was like, when I first moved here, I was
working for or like a fashion pr and I was
just like trying to like figure it out. I was like,
I want to work at entertainment now, and I everybody
in their mama was starting a company that was trying
to like replicate what BuzzFeed was doing at the time.
So there was like the Food Channel, there was the
Hollywood Channel, there was the Sports Channel. And I worked
(21:39):
as a social media person manager, basically managing the Hollywood
Entertainment vertical. But they were like, Ryan, you have such
a personality, you need to be on our shows. And
I was like, girl, no, this is not what y'all
pay me for. I don't know what I'm doing. You
have hosts here who are like supposed to do this,
(21:59):
but he here's this.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh my god, that's a craze. Because okay, anyway, play
that damn video.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Hey guys, welcome to Holly Scoops.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Just saying that my got Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Okay, big award show this weekend, this Sunday American, which
I'm actually very excited about.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
This is going to be a very good show. Like
there's something you know, some big stars nominated. Even Beyonce
is nominated. What do you mean even I'm saying even
Beyonce is nominated, but she's probably not gonna show up.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Let's be real here. Well, that's what we're talking about today.
There are so many stars who are pretty much in
question of whether or are actually gonna show exactly to
this award show because it's all dealing with their personal lives.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I mean, of course there's been so much drama with
all these celebrities that are nominated, like Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Rihanna,
Drake Adele even the Weekend.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean, he's single, but it normally it would be
by his side. Let's just go into well, let's start
with our favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
What am I talking about? Oh my god, I'm cringing.
I'm about to throw up.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But also Selena is dealing with her own personal issues.
She's in rehab and has been for the last several weeks.
So who do I send my invoice to? My therapy session.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
After this, corresponded, you're such a wee ho fag.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Actually caused Selena to go into rehab. So I'm guessing
that at least Selena is not going to show.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Justin is iffy for me.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't think Selena's going to show. I think Justin
will turn up.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
To perform.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Cringing.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I wouldn't even give him that much. Thank you so
much for turning it on. I literally am about to
I feel like I'm bringing in the hives as we
speak right now.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Oh, I have so much to say, don't even don't
eat and shut your so.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Much to say, oh okay, what okay? Number one? You
were such a preppy little I'm not a faggot, ass
faggot like, I love you so so much. You had
like you might as well have had your collar turned up.
(24:21):
I did not know you have plugs.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh okay, so those were actually like I was.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I was at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I was trying to decide if I wanted to like
plug my ears, like because I had my septim and
I was like, oh, I kind of want to get
a gauge, Like I really want to gauge my ears
but I just couldn't make the decision. So those are
like fake ass hot topic gauges, like they're not even.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Gonna I saw through your ear holes. I perceived it
as like a real gauge at one point and was
like I did not know Ryan was this bitch. You
looked like you were so in the closet and like honestly,
whatever whatever her whatever, whatever her hair is next to
you was so giving, like your popular ass beard.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, here's the thing. A shout out to Heather.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Heather's actually like an incredible like content creator now, like
she kind of blew up. She started doing political commentary
videos and she like was a part of like the
like Kamala Harris like campaign where she was like doing
content and like creating like just news.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You should know, like, shout out to head gardener. She's
actually pretty great.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
She taught me a lot of like what I did
not know because during that time, I actually those were
clothes that I probably Oh my god, I didn't have
no money at that time. I remember I could barely
pay by like my bills. I was living in a
roach and rat infests in apartment.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Oh my god, that's not the Ryan I know at.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
All No, I'm like, it's crazy when I think about
that time, Like I feel like that was also around
the time that I had got my like my car
repos like got repossessed literally that day, and I had
to go to work like that same day, and I
had to like get someone to like drive.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Me because I just was like going through it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I didn't know what I was doing as a twenty
two year old, and I'm just like trying to like,
you know, this job that I ain't really paying me
much but is having me like be on camera, And
it was so new for me where I just wasn't
like I guess I had never seen myself doing that.
I'd never seen anyone that looked like me doing this.
And so when they kept positioning me on this show
(26:21):
called just saying that clip, we just just saying it
it literally, it caused actually a lot of anxiety. I
think it was the first instance of like me experiencing
like a Boster syndrome without having the language for it,
because I was like, why why me? Why does like
why does my voice even matter? And I just was
(26:41):
putting on like I I literally was just I was
put that was a character. I don't even recognize that person.
If I'm being quite honest, It's.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Funny you say you were putting on because uh, like
you know before you just like got deep right there.
I was going to crack a bunch of jokes about
like how scared you clearly where you were sitting there,
Like you look like if you were afraid that Sarah
was gonna eat you. You look like you were afraid
that the job was gonna eat what I was afraid,
I genuinely was you looked like you were afraid that
(27:11):
fashion or expression was gonna eat you. Like, And it's
interesting because when we started working together, you know, before,
before I knew you, I was like, uh, oh, Ryan's
gonna be an anxious mess, and like it's like not
really going to come out of come out of that
shell when we're talking. But right, girl, Like it is
so trippy to see how I don't know, like how
(27:36):
much growth you've had in those five or six years
since that clip was aired.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I mean that clip was like eight years ago.
It's it's true because I.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
When I say I genuinely don't even really recognize that
person anymore, it's because I really do feel even though
I do still have my handful of anxiety, right, but
I do I feel so much more like.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Owning my shit? Now?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Did you bring yourself to the table like curios? You
were trepidacious that whole last time, being like even when
it was your turn to talk, you'd be like, and.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
We clearly all justin Bieber's quay, right, don't we don't.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
We like somebody had a gun behind your head, being like, bitch,
you will not ruin this night.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I will say that shit right there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
That show actually was like probably the start of like
me hating my like the way that I sounded, or
like just seeing myself on camera like that.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That actually started a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But like when I got into it, I've been in
this sort of media game when I really think about it,
if we're counting that, I've been in it probably like
ten years now, And I sometimes have to remind myself
being like, bitch, you actually know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, but you know, why am I second guessing myself?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Why am I like, like, you know, I think I've
just been very Once I really locked in and was
just like, you know, I'm going to be so intentional
about everything that I do, like who I work with,
what projects, I do what conversations I'm having. But like
once I decided and locked in in that way, I'm
like ready for a level up like I've been, like
(29:10):
I've seen level ups from that to this what you're
seeing now, which this is everything.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And I know, I know you were like talking about
being young and broke, but your fashion was terrible. Girl,
I'm broke in my audition tape, and you saw what
the fuck I did with that. I first cook up
some ice and I made a paper dress about racial
tensions or whatever the fuck I said. Really quickly it
got worse.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I used to wear this. I used to wear this
black Freedora hat, wide brim hat.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I oh, and I used to think I was eating
the roma. And to be honest, for that time eight
years ago was what I don't do mad because I'm
pretty Uh, I don't even know what the timing of
eight years.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Ago was, like twenty is something ish.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, right, twenty nineteen, No, it had to be like
twenty seventeen, twenty six.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I was talking about how old you were.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Oh so yeah, I was the office fashion girl. You
couldn't tell me anything. I had the looks. I was
eating the girls up. But when I look back at
it now, I would literally jump off the nearest bridge
if I.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Is there anything from like that period in time that
you missed? Like it could be like a fashion it
could be like your fake gauges. It could be like
a skincare product.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
The gag is I think I kind of missed my
fake gauges.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I actually not even gonna lie to I remember, and
if I'm being quite honest, my piercings were always My
piercings were always like a way that I rebelled because
my mom.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, piercings are power, Oh easie.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
When I turned eighteen, I went to a walmart that
my friend worked at and they pierced my ears and
I came back home and my mom was so upset
that I woke up the next day to a phone
call with her and my grandma. They're on a phone
call and she walks into my room and they're like
praying over me, telling me to remove my new newly
(31:08):
piers earrings out of my ear.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But I just got it.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I mean, granted, if I look back at it, my mom,
even though she was in like a religious rage, I
also think she peeped that my ears were probably going
to be infected from a Walmart piercer.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
She was like, the devil has gotten into these lobes.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And so I'm like, it's not even like I'm like
in hindsight, I'm like, okay, sister, maybe you were kind
of right.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
But.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I do kind of miss the idea of like having
my ears played. I thought I would look so cute
with them, which I kind of did, and I kind
of still do want to do it.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I was like, wait, how did she get her ear
as to heal up so much that I never noticed it?
And then I remember, I've only ever seen you in headphones.
I don't know what your real ears look like.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Do you miss that easy? Well, I guess do you
miss that Edie from before Drag Race?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
In most ways? But I also believe I'm still that
person in a lot of ways. I'm just tired now,
no legit Like I see, I see, I see how
hungry I was to do something, and like how much
I believed in myself to be able to do something,
(32:21):
and then how important it was for me to like
commit all of that towards something and to be honest
now like I have, I have like a hard time
letting my ego inflate itself to that level. Like I'm
not saying I don't have an ego problem. Girl, I'm
a Leo. I'm a drag queen. Like I know who
(32:42):
the fuck I am. I love me. All I think
about is me, me, me me, But like I don't know,
like there's something about being my own saboteur to a
certain amount of success that's just like always going to
happen because I like being hungry for it more and
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Like but doesn't that I see? I Actually I feel
like I kind of get what you're saying. And maybe
it's just our Leo, our Leo energy being able to
connect there because it there is something to say about
what happens if you do allow yourself to like reach
that like that like next level, Like what changes?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
What person do you become? What new fears are unlocked?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Like I at least that's the thing that I I
talk about, Like I literally just said that I'm ready
to level up. But if I'm being honest with every
new thing, as like the growth comes, I also feel
like I'm unlocking a new level of anxiety of like,
oh shit, there's more responsibilities that I guess I never
thought about are there's just new I'm stretching myself in
(33:47):
more uncomfortable ways because I'm growing.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But like, bitch, I'm scared of that.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, you know that's I think a really like
real real thing girl is Like I don't know, I
used to be hungrier to know more and do more
and see more and feel like I was a part
of more and experience more. And I don't know, like
not that I want that less, but like legitimately, number one,
(34:16):
I'm tired. Ye, Like my body hurts doubly now. My
energy is not that of the youth, And like, I
don't know, I realized that there is this part of
me that's like never going to be satisfied. Like sometimes
it's nice to throw yourself into a dream or whatever. Yeah,
(34:38):
but like the more you do things, like the more
you realize you're still gonna have to do do work
for them, You're still gonna have to like commit, You're
still gonna have to foster that relationship. And like legitimately,
I don't know if I've said this on the show,
but I really cannot wait until we're all wally p.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Actually you have mentioned that, and I can't believe you're
you saying it again actually really means that you really
mean it.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I like really mean it because I love being alive
and I love experiencing new things and stuff, but like,
oh my god, I'm just like exhausted having to pour
energy into it. And if I could at least like
remove the physical aspect of things, like if I could
just like literally be a chair that also like massages
(35:29):
you and like masturbates you or whatever, like cleans your
poop and does your taxes.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Is this because if you're what I make if I'm
saying it wrong, please is it your EDS?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah? EDS is cute. I like that.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Okay, I'm like I didn't want to actually like sound
it out, but the.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Girl it's so un sexy. I can't believe I already
somehow found out how to pronounce it before going on TV,
even if I did have everything else about it wrong,
because there were lots of updates that had just happened
in the medical facilities in the world.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And I also know that you hate it's like one,
I would also equally hate people bringing up this like
thing about my body all the time. I would totally
hate that. But then it's also a real thing that
you're like constantly living with. And I still see you perform,
like you're still flipping and doing splits in like bending backwards,
(36:22):
and I'm like, of course, when you talk about your
body hurting, it's I'm wondering, is that is that a
direct connection to that or is it just because we're
getting older.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I mean that's I actually really do like getting older,
because then it feels like at least it's less of
a direct connection. Like right when I got on Drag
Race was right when I started feeling long term repercussions
of my body, like like when I started dislocating things
and like fracturing things, and that I had never really
(36:53):
had that experience before. I'd just always been extra bending
and like sometimes a sprain and a go for a second, you.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Were dislocating things on drag Race.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, that was the first time I experienced, like started
to experience this sort of my body falling apart. But
I think it's because that's the hardest I had ever
pushed myself. And then when it aired and like going
into what tour life was, which you know at the time,
I'm not bitching about it. I'm very grateful. I said, yes,
(37:25):
to all the things I did, but it was exhausting
to suddenly be somebody who's not just like putting all
of their energy into like one look maybe a week,
but trying to figure out how to perform and feel
authentic to myself and give good shows and convince people
that I deserve to win five nights a week, like
(37:48):
six seven nights a week. Sometimes to the point where
whenever I would get home, I like for those two
or three days, I just lie there and be so
pissed if I had to do anything else. So like it.
It was already rough from the jump. But I've learned
how to deal with my body more, and I've learned
(38:09):
that getting older just sucks for everybody too. And I've
learned that sometimes you need a second tantric massage to
really work that pussy out when the first people won't
touch your butt because of possible sexual harassment lawsuits that
could be filed.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, yes that is true.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There are there's things in all hour, but no, I
totally get it. And it's it's also just like a
constant reminder for myself because and we've taught, we've had
you discussions on the show around like my own relationship
with like my own body and how I walk through
the world with it, and how days some days I'm
(38:47):
either feeling it or like a like loving who I'm
seeing in the mirror. In the other days I'm actually like, bitch,
please let me go and like go force myself to
work out for the next six days and to just
feel like I'm doing something right.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
And it's it's those it's those things where I I
I'm so happy that we are connected in a real
way now because it's just you have such an experience
of like the world perceiving us a thing, are perceiving
you and putting so much of like their what they
feel about you on I mean, I've seen it, let's
be honest. I've seen it in the damn comments of
(39:25):
a TikTok where everybody in their mom is awful.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Girl.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I just went on that TikTok and I was like, oh,
oh my god, these kids hate me for like a
couple of reasons. They're like, you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Look so busted.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I can't believe you're saying that to Utica right now,
And I'm like that bitch didn't even put on an
eyebrow for this interview. Utica I want to fight. You
tell your fans to be nice to me.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I guess I just don't. I'm like, I just don't
get in.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I think this is like the scary piece of like
leveling up that I think I've always sort of been
nervous about about. Like, Okay, I think in some ways,
and if I'm being really honest, I think in some
ways I have been able to curate what the world
sees of me. I've never really ever been one hundred
(40:11):
percent you know myself, because if I'm being honest, like
I never thought there was ever really space for that.
Like I never thought that people would actually like like
me the same way as the same as they would
as a rhyme that I'm like curating for them in
some ways. And like there's a part of leveling up
where you have to kind of let that go.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
And you've done it in.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Your drag career when you want and you got unlocked,
like unleashed into the world and everyone had their like
opinions and thoughts and shitty things to say. And I
think about this as we're growing and as we're doing
this thing.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
How the fuck do you know? How am I? How
how do you handle that? Shit, you know, I mean, are.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You already you already have like the like the base
of it, which is it is going to affect you,
like positive or negative, Like when you see somebody who
you've never met, you see a random comment like representing
a whole idea, you like, drink it in, But I
don't know. It's something like I'm still working on. I'm
(41:16):
still working on because there it like hinders my ability
at least to do what I want to do, which
is survive capitalism by doing what I want to do.
And I feel like the more honest I am, the
more opportunities there are for yeah, people to love me
or hate me, or tell me that they want to
(41:39):
sleep with my dad, or ask me how tall RuPaul is.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
All things I'm wondering and inquiring about it.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
But it's like I don't know, it's it's easier work,
and that's why I'm excited, Like I really am genuinely
thankful that I get to do high key with you,
that like I get to be on a podcast where
we're supposed to be like sharing more of ourselves because
(42:08):
like this is my favorite favorite part about the life
that people may only think I complain about it is like,
I really really love connecting with people, and maybe that's
why I don't come off well online because I don't
fucking like you fucks online. You're all terrible. Your opinions suck,
even when you're right, like, bitch, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But no, I think I'm I love I love being
able to connect with you in this way, and I
think we'll be able to do it more because you're
just making me more comfortable with like showing up as
authentically as I fucking can, and like also not giving
a fuck about what people have to say about it
as we grow in.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
This audience that we're building grows with us, And.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
So yeah, I don't I love you and I'm obsessed
that I got to we got to do this little, small,
little peak, and we'll continue to do stuff like this.
Don't don't even you know if you're just like, oh
my god, it just got started and really dug in,
this will be a this is always going to be us.
This is high key literally, it's never going anywhere. Yeah,
we're always going to be here. And eventually I'll uncover
(43:12):
some like Ryan high school, like his mom on a
camcorder or something, videotaping him like strutting in his rumors.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I will see your gay ass childhood show.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
There's a whole oh like facebook like hidden photo album
that I have a got all of the footage.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
So don't jall go anywhere. Let's take a short break, y'all. Yeah,
we gotta get into our high key of the week, hike.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
What I'm really hi key about is maybe changing my
idea of self care. I'm maybe high key about actually
committing more to self care. I ate a solid today,
I took a bath, I got two massages this week.
I took a bath like every other day. Yeah, and
I'm at least thinking about planning and packing a day early.
(44:06):
So self care, let's say, go take care of yourselves, bitches.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
That's a really really good one.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
And to be honest, that also is a perfect segue
into my high key, my high key. I think I'm
also high key all about advocating for myself. I have
been in spaces where I've talked about where it's always
hard for me to say no, are like to like,
you know, get the thing that I want. And I've
been putting in a lot of work doing a lot
(44:33):
of different projects right now, and I'm just learning to
advocate for myself because I know if I deserve more money, bitch,
I'm going to ask for more money because the work
that I put into the world and what I do
is worth it. And so that is just a reminder
for self care and for advocating for yourself.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
And we are high key fucking done with the show period.
We are.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
But if y'all want to hear more about what's really
sparking our butt plugs, then stay tuned and stick around
for the aftes over on our Patreon. Go subscribe to
our patreon. Hei key he not here.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
That's not patreon dot com slash hi.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Key patreon dot com slash he stay hikey fam Okay, no,
listen to Riots. He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Listen to me.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It's patriot dot com slash hike That's where you're gonna
get all the extra goodies and the aftes. Literally, I
kind of really want to talk about this whole Betty
Who drama, even though I'm not a lamsban but i am,
like I said, I am hikey nosy, and I'm just
I'm so feeling I need.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
To like debrief about it with you.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
So yeah, we're We're gonna, of course add in the
full twenty minutes drag race audition of eeds, so expect that.
And then we're for sure gonna dive into this hole.
Betty who of it all our Patreon so meet us
over there at the aftes patreon dot com slash hike here.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's the show, that's us, that's us.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Congratulations. Let's go get some massages and ask for raises.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
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Speaker 3 (46:45):
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I literally am about to I feel like I'm bringing
in the hives as we speak right now. Oh, I
have so much to say, don't even don't shut your phone,
so much.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To say, Oh okay, what okay?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Number one? You were such a preppy little I'm not
a faggot, ass faggot like, I love you so so much?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What our friends, Welcome back to High Key. I'm Ryan Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And I'm Evie Oddly, and today we're going way back,
like audition tape receipts back.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hanny, Oh my god, I think I'm getting the ex Yep,
we're dragging out the archives Evie's original drag race audition
and a throwback video of me being oh my god,
like an American ego ad I'm way too preppy.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Plus we're talking myself that got a little slutty exes
who still haunt us, and what it means to grow
up queer in Denver, Nashville and anywhere we exist.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Plus we get hotcakes on garage cells, cartoon chaos, and
why Wily basically predicted the future.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
If you want the uncut tea our full reactions, behind
the scenes, chaos, and after party vibes, join us at
patreon dot com slash hi key.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
But first let's kick things off with the hiki key.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Doug and I went to get a couple's massage, our
favorite place here, and they are really good, and they
like go really nice and deep and give you champagne
and chocolate, strawberries and shit like it's all delicious.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Always like a fancy spot.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I don't know about that. It's always in some different
warehouse building. I had to drive halfway across the state
this time.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So that actually sounds like you're getting like happy endings
in that sort of a location versus it be like
a Burke Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's funny you should say that because that is the
exact issue. That is exactly the issue is. Like when
we started going there, I don't think either of us
had ever been in a massage situation that was like
tantrick or sexual or whatever you want to call it,
like happy ending.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, But since then, I think we've both explored a
lot more. And so while he can still like go
get a massage and they'll be and be like, yeah,
come beat me up, and they'll be like yeah, throw
their whole elbow pussy into his back. Uh, I feel
like I need somebody who can be really really intimate
(02:39):
with my body, whether that be because they already have
like a relationship with how it works, what its limits are,
or because they're trying to fuck you know, they're like, wow,
I really appreciate this body stretching it out Like.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, that's the thing I guess with massages, like there's
a professionalism where it doesn't I feel as intimate as
it possibly could, unless you're like hiring someone that also
does massuse work and is possibly a sex worker.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
See, all of this was a really long roundabout way
of saying. After Doug and I went and got our
couple's massage, I went and got a slutty massage.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You did a double massage.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, like two in one week. I was like, wow,
the intimate one worked out like my back and shoulders
like they're allowed to. And I went and got the
slutty massage, and he was literally like stretching me out
like gumby, like like it was like yoga. He like
have my foot above my head and my other foot
like above his head, and he'd like tickle my taint
(03:42):
with his mustache or something. Oh. I cried a little
bit when he would like work out muscles.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I've literally never experienced that sort of massage. The only
massage that I've ever gone to are like the ones
at Burke Williams, and I you know, I go there.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
For now, it's Burke Williams.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Burke Williams is like it's not really that fancy, but
it is like one of those like little fancy spots
where you can go and get like a massage, and
they have like a little spot area and like the
steam room, the open pool and let the locker room
all that stuff. But like that's the only extent I've
only ever done those sort of like massage. I've never
done a happy ending massage. And I mean, if I'm
(04:21):
being honest, when you're talking about getting message, I'm like,
do you have to get a massage? Probably more regularly
than most people because of like your bones and how
they need to heal over time.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's something I only really got into in the last
few years, like while I was dating Doug, because I
would come home after months of touring and be so
stiff and just like have to lay there forever, and
he'd be like, why don't we just go get a massage,
And I'd be like, I don't even know what that
word is, Like, bitch, my mom never taught us a
(04:53):
lot of self care. She like duck, didn't teach us
to use like different soap for our face and our asshole.
Like she was like, what the fuck is a massage?
And you guys should clip your nails eventually. I guess
I don't know, it's your life. I don't care if
my children look like like savages and we're all just
like climbing up curtains and dirty loincloths and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Shit, like Baby's kids or something.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I always think of Baby's kids because they would make
that reference. People would make that reference to my mom's kids. Really, like,
that's so rough. I had no idea what they were
talking about. Oh wait, you said you have kids.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
These are Baba's kids.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I went and watched it, and I was like, nah,
that is so rude. There's only three of us and
we're so chill.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I think this is actually a really great start to
what this episode is going to look like. Now we're
not about to like go in full trauma dumt mode
or talking about but I think we're going to get
to know each other a little bit more right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Today's Today's a little different.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We don't have a guest, it's just we Edie and
I just wanted it to be us too, you know,
two girlfriends.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, just like a real, real chill time. Because okay,
so here's at least my thing is Ry and I
have been working together for a period of time now
that I don't know what it is. I'm going to
say at least this year.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who literally.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It was just this year, But I feel I feel
like there's this really dope chemistry that happens when we FaceTime,
and like I actually kind of like picking up your calls,
even though I have the horrible anxiety about my phone
because I know we're going to key a little and.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Oh absolutely, which I have really enjoyed that too. Like
I love our our face times because I remember, and
maybe we can get into this after this break, because
of course I have all these thoughts and questions that
I want to ask you to you just about you,
and of course I want to know about the Eedy
before drag Race and like what that looked like. But
(06:52):
I just I just remember before we started facetiming, before
like early stages of us working together I was kind
of nervous to just pick up the phone to like
call you, Like I just wasn't sure if we were
at that level of our friendship yet, and so to
once we did it and it felt so like nice,
I was like, oh, yeah, let's lock it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Let's let's go ahead and get this going, right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's so like, that's so funny to hear because we're
still not at that level. No shame, no, shay it
actually no, no, it's so weird. Like Doug always makes
fun of me because whenever I do notice my phone
and know where she is, I'll answer calls. But that's
also part of the reason that I spend so long
(07:35):
like detached from it, because I don't want to. I
will get so distracted. There's so many things in this world,
even outside of the one device that controls so much
of my life. Yeah, so, but like, if I'm ever
there and see your name, I'll pick up. I will
get distracted. I will be late for the gig.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The gag is I don't know if I can even
say the same, but because I'm also I'm equally as
bad with my phone, if I'm being quite honest.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But I think here's the thing. This all kind of
this conversation that.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
We're having right now is all sort of a pregame
to our larger conversation that we wanted to do for
today's episode, because literally we don't have a guest, and
we were like, how about you know even and I
just like hang out with each other. We haven't done
that yet, and honestly, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'm really excited because today I feel like we're gonna
get to know like at least big pieces of how
we got here. And my question for you would be like,
what is the big step you took towards what brought
you to where you are today? And we happen to
have a bit of one of your early interviews.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's not even an early interview.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
This is like a baby like I think, like Cringey
hosting moment, but same I want. I had you pull
your RuPaul's Drag Race audition tape that I want to
react to.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I got to see the one that I got on, right.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yes, the one that got you on to end up
being season eleven winners.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
My drag name comes from the Latin term evy, which
means even and oddly, which means odder.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So you all please, this is gonna be incredible. If
he's gonna play a clip for me, but if you
want to see the full twenty minutes, it's up on
our Patreon at patreon dot com slash high key here.
You're gonna get all of these episodes early on Fridays,
plus an exclusive you know, twenty thirty minutes where we
just shooting the shit, because that's what we've been doing. Yeah,
(09:31):
because I think we've most definitely been releasing our episodes
on Fridays, but we decided to move onto Mondays.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Start the week with us, don't end the.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Week with us, Ray blast us out loud in the
office with your coworkers, and then get pulled in by
HR being like, I don't know if you should be
listening to that content outside of your headphones.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
All right, Well, we're gonna take a quick little brag
when we're back, though. Get ready, because oh my god,
I'm so excited. I cannot wait to see like this
AUDI should tape for yours.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh it's gonna be exciting.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Iike, Okay, welcome back, eighty.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think it's time that we show the people your
season eleven Drag Race, Abdition now this is the one
that got you into the season that you won. I'm
super excited. Okay, before we started, are you excited? I'm
you nervous. Was the last time you watched this thing?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I used to watch it like every few years or so.
I don't know. I can't say that hasn't been that
long for me, but like, I used to watch it
pretty consistently, specifically because other Denver queens after I got on,
were like, okay, show me your tape, show me like
what you did.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
They were like, is there a format to like, is
there a formula to sort of get their attention?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well, that's what I was wondering. The formula I kept
trying to share with them is like number one, find
a way to break the rules, and then number two
be good.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Actually, just have talent.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, just have talent, You talentless little bit. You'll never
be me willow pill.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Dragger.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So I'm pretty excited because I haven't watched it in
a couple of years. But from what I remember, I'm
so proud of this, like even before it got me
on drag Race. So let's see what we see.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh my god, twenty eighteen, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is no, it really is hi.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
My name is Javon Bridges or ev Oddley.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
It's four years old from the Mile High City, Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Ev Oddly is.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
A quirky goofball.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
She's a little bit sexy, but mostly like a cartoon character.
My drag persona is like bubbly, How young you, Dave Mischievan?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Oh hi, I didn't see you there. Today we're going
to be learning how to cook up this delicious light.
You'll needs paper plates, a glue gun, spray plates. I
have a bunch of shapes on these paper plates.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Can you just cut away?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Duo?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
This is gonna be beautiful, all right, here's what it
turned out by.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
This gorgeous plate.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
You're gonna take glue in ample amounts.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
The dress?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Like so this.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Stress is about racial tensions and I've finished it by
painting one half black and painting one half white. Already
licked my toe.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I'm gonna go for the butt hole this time.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
What the dragon comes from the Latin term evy, which
means even, and oddly, which means odd.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
The drag scene in Denver is starting to bloom, and
it's only due to a few evolutionaries were expanding, and
I'm I'm at the forefront. I'm a revolutionary. I'm the
next drive superstar because there's nothing I won't try to
take that crown. I will flip on and off and
inside and out. I will fly off that goddamn stage.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, I have so
many questions. One, you were so young too. Was that
like a little gay boy voice that you had. Yeah,
like you have such a different voice, that like texture
to your voice now, I mean it's a little tweaky
gay boy in that video.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, my voice definitely has gotten gravelier because of like
ten more years of abusing it and shouting into microphones,
heavy drinking, smoking, practicing doing this or you know, my
misvangye impersonation like it's But also the thing is they
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had like the videos had to be twenty minuts are
under and I've always been the stoner that I am
who speaks very slowly, like there's space for like twenty
miss Vangies in between each word I say. So I
was like, that was the year I finally took the
task of editing my video myself, and I was like,
(14:19):
you're just gonna be who you are, You're gonna like
ramble as slowly as you ramble, You're gonna cut out
a bunch of shit, and then you're gonna speed it
all up a bit.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Wait so you edited all of that yourself?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
E Okay, so you I mean, honestly, it's so interesting,
Like what was I guess what was going on during
that time in your life? Like what even made you
be like, Okay, I'm just going to like do this
for real, for real?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Like, well, I had auditioned every year I was old enough. Basically,
I'm pretty sure I had auditioned twice before, and I
poured my all into these tapes. But the issue was
there was just like always this disc connect between who
I really am and how I presented on the tapes.
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And by that, I mean you could tell I was nervous.
You could tell that I was a baby queen in
some respects, like in the way that I was uncomfortable
being in front of the cameras. I was treating it
like a job interview. And so not only were the
ways I was answering those questions terrible, and I'm funny
and I'm sexy and trying too hard and probably said
(15:27):
Kuda bitch.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Said, I think you're being a little hard on yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
No no, no, no no no, those ones were great. This
is the best thing I've ever done. I was like,
just watching that back, I was surprised. I was like, damn,
I was funnier in my Drag Race audition tape than
I was on two seasons of Drag Race.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
But there is there is such an energy because I've
never auditioned for like a show, right, Like I've never
to be quite honest, I've actually never auditioned for anything
except for like for the first time last year from
like an E show that didn't end up like getting
picked up. And I had never auditioned for anything, and
I never self tape. I was like so nervous when
(16:10):
I was trying to figure out even how to fucking
do it, and so to know, like you sent in
this like audition tape and you were just like, fuck it,
I'm just gonna do it, and like, you know, just put.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Myself out there and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It it works, you feeled avoid I guess, are you
filled a hole that they were looking for in that season.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I really am proud of that, specifically because at some point,
We're gonna have to go and watch like my older
ones so you can see, like why I'm so critical
because I've always been a really dope ass drag queen.
I've always been really rough and crunchy.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, But before it was like you were watching me
in a job interview being like.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I'm eviy oddly and I'm here to uh snatch the
crown because I'm a weirdo, and it's like, bitch, no,
I wanted to show you all the I'm funny and
I'm here to fight.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But what I guess what shaped your weirdoness? Like when
you were was it just being in Denver? Was it
just like does the community just everybody there was just weird?
Or were you kind of like.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's like, were you just leading there?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Like no, it's not like there weren't ever any like
weirdos before me, but there wasn't really a space for
it to succeed in Denver. To have succeeded in Denver,
you had to be like a long hair wearing I
have some like Real Housewives name is one of your
thirty names right, performing in a sparkly body suit, and
(17:40):
I'm pretty sure I like went off on some mean
ass rant in that whole audition video, just describing how
much I was bored by Denver's drag scene, so like
it was, I don't know, it was like I really
wanted to get on, and I needed to get on
because I saw myself trapped in this place where I
wanted to be a part of queer culture and I
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wanted to only ever work gay jobs ever forever in
my life. But I was just feeling trapped by the
fact that no matter how hard I tried to change
things and make them better and create spaces here, like
I don't know, it just seemed like people were so
determined to just be boring as fuck.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
No, it sort of sounds like it sort of sounds
like when I kind of hit my wits end from
like living in Nashville and was just like, I don't
think I can do this anymore. I've done everything that
I potentially could do here, like I've met the people
I was supposed to meet. I feel like I was
I figured myself out enough, but I was like there
was so much more to like the world are like,
(18:47):
at least to get out of my small town of
fucking Laverne, Tennessee. To get out of and when I
decided to like move to LA, I had no clue
what I was really like going to do, but I
just felt like, okay, why not. I mean, if my
two the two people who I'm closest to in my
life are like down to do that at that time,
(19:08):
they're gonna have to come with me. At least I
have like a built in support system. But like moving
out here, when I was twenty two, I didn't know
what the fuck I was like thinking, are doing?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So did you? Did you move with friends? Though?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I did, I moved with my now ex boyfriend and
my now ex best friend.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Wow, why did I call that? In my head? Wait?
The only thing, the last thing to answer question answered
about that question is are they both your exes? Because
they're together?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No? No, no, no, no no no, they're what I'm what.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
My ex boyfriend's my ex because he was a liar
and a cheater for a very long time and honestly,
we probably shouldn't even have moved here together.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
You piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean, you know, we all make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
We were young, and my old best friend we once
we moved out here, and we like, I mean, we
lived together for so long, and when the pandemic hit,
we decided to move out. But during that transition of
like moving out, we just like realized that we kind
of were just losing our friendship and uh.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Grew different grew different ways.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Grew different ways. We were like it sucked.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Actually, it's something that I still think about in a
lot of ways because it just was unexpected at the time,
and I was getting into my career and I was
really like figuring out what I was doing out here,
wanted to do out a here, and I think, you know,
when you start to really feel that shift in between
a friendship, it's like you don't want to leave someone behind.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But sometimes like that's just where you know.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
That's just how it works. Sometimes, like that's what growth
is and how life works is our paths hopefully can
if you love someone, hopefully your path will like recross
again someday and hopefully we'll both be old enough and
mature enough and close enough to death to be like, wow,
I cherish every moment I guess with you, I'll see
in another twenty years, friend, Like.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do you want to see do you want to see
me at like twenty two?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Old?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Ryan Like, do you want to.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
See a video, so do Okay, okay, yeah, wait is
that how young we are? We're twenty two year old? Ryan?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Set me up, girl, I think I'm twenty two.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I am.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I'm no longer working in fashion.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I was like, when I first moved here, I was
working for or like a fashion pr and I was
just like trying to like figure it out. I was like,
I want to work at entertainment now, and I everybody
in their mama was starting a company that was trying
to like replicate what BuzzFeed was doing at the time.
So there was like the Food Channel, there was the
Hollywood Channel, there was the Sports Channel. And I worked
(21:39):
as a social media person manager, basically managing the Hollywood
Entertainment vertical. But they were like, Ryan, you have such
a personality, you need to be on our shows. And
I was like, girl, no, this is not what y'all
pay me for. I don't know what I'm doing. You
have hosts here who are like supposed to do this,
(21:59):
but he here's this.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh my god, that's a craze. Because okay, anyway, play
that damn video.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Hey guys, welcome to Holly Scoops.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Just saying that my got Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Okay, big award show this weekend, this Sunday American, which
I'm actually very excited about.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
This is going to be a very good show. Like
there's something you know, some big stars nominated. Even Beyonce
is nominated. What do you mean even I'm saying even
Beyonce is nominated, but she's probably not gonna show up.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Let's be real here. Well, that's what we're talking about today.
There are so many stars who are pretty much in
question of whether or are actually gonna show exactly to
this award show because it's all dealing with their personal lives.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I mean, of course there's been so much drama with
all these celebrities that are nominated, like Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Rihanna,
Drake Adele even the Weekend.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean, he's single, but it normally it would be
by his side. Let's just go into well, let's start
with our favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
What am I talking about? Oh my god, I'm cringing.
I'm about to throw up.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But also Selena is dealing with her own personal issues.
She's in rehab and has been for the last several weeks.
So who do I send my invoice to? My therapy session.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
After this, corresponded, you're such a wee ho fag.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Actually caused Selena to go into rehab. So I'm guessing
that at least Selena is not going to show.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Justin is iffy for me.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't think Selena's going to show. I think Justin
will turn up.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
To perform.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Cringing.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I wouldn't even give him that much. Thank you so
much for turning it on. I literally am about to
I feel like I'm bringing in the hives as we
speak right now.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Oh, I have so much to say, don't even don't
eat and shut your so.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Much to say, oh okay, what okay? Number one? You
were such a preppy little I'm not a faggot, ass
faggot like, I love you so so much. You had
like you might as well have had your collar turned up.
(24:21):
I did not know you have plugs.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh okay, so those were actually like I was.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I was at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I was trying to decide if I wanted to like
plug my ears, like because I had my septim and
I was like, oh, I kind of want to get
a gauge, Like I really want to gauge my ears
but I just couldn't make the decision. So those are
like fake ass hot topic gauges, like they're not even.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Gonna I saw through your ear holes. I perceived it
as like a real gauge at one point and was
like I did not know Ryan was this bitch. You
looked like you were so in the closet and like honestly,
whatever whatever her whatever, whatever her hair is next to
you was so giving, like your popular ass beard.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, here's the thing. A shout out to Heather.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Heather's actually like an incredible like content creator now, like
she kind of blew up. She started doing political commentary
videos and she like was a part of like the
like Kamala Harris like campaign where she was like doing
content and like creating like just news.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You should know, like, shout out to head gardener. She's
actually pretty great.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
She taught me a lot of like what I did
not know because during that time, I actually those were
clothes that I probably Oh my god, I didn't have
no money at that time. I remember I could barely
pay by like my bills. I was living in a
roach and rat infests in apartment.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Oh my god, that's not the Ryan I know at.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
All No, I'm like, it's crazy when I think about
that time, Like I feel like that was also around
the time that I had got my like my car
repos like got repossessed literally that day, and I had
to go to work like that same day, and I
had to like get someone to like drive.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Me because I just was like going through it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I didn't know what I was doing as a twenty
two year old, and I'm just like trying to like,
you know, this job that I ain't really paying me
much but is having me like be on camera, And
it was so new for me where I just wasn't
like I guess I had never seen myself doing that.
I'd never seen anyone that looked like me doing this.
And so when they kept positioning me on this show
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called just saying that clip, we just just saying it
it literally, it caused actually a lot of anxiety. I
think it was the first instance of like me experiencing
like a Boster syndrome without having the language for it,
because I was like, why why me? Why does like
why does my voice even matter? And I just was
(26:41):
putting on like I I literally was just I was
put that was a character. I don't even recognize that person.
If I'm being quite honest, It's.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Funny you say you were putting on because uh, like
you know before you just like got deep right there.
I was going to crack a bunch of jokes about
like how scared you clearly where you were sitting there,
Like you look like if you were afraid that Sarah
was gonna eat you. You look like you were afraid
that the job was gonna eat what I was afraid,
I genuinely was you looked like you were afraid that
(27:11):
fashion or expression was gonna eat you. Like, And it's
interesting because when we started working together, you know, before,
before I knew you, I was like, uh, oh, Ryan's
gonna be an anxious mess, and like it's like not
really going to come out of come out of that
shell when we're talking. But right, girl, Like it is
so trippy to see how I don't know, like how
(27:36):
much growth you've had in those five or six years
since that clip was aired.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I mean that clip was like eight years ago.
It's it's true because I.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
When I say I genuinely don't even really recognize that
person anymore, it's because I really do feel even though
I do still have my handful of anxiety, right, but
I do I feel so much more like.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Owning my shit? Now?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Did you bring yourself to the table like curios? You
were trepidacious that whole last time, being like even when
it was your turn to talk, you'd be like, and.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
We clearly all justin Bieber's quay, right, don't we don't.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
We like somebody had a gun behind your head, being like, bitch,
you will not ruin this night.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I will say that shit right there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
That show actually was like probably the start of like
me hating my like the way that I sounded, or
like just seeing myself on camera like that.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That actually started a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But like when I got into it, I've been in
this sort of media game when I really think about it,
if we're counting that, I've been in it probably like
ten years now, And I sometimes have to remind myself
being like, bitch, you actually know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, but you know, why am I second guessing myself?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Why am I like, like, you know, I think I've
just been very Once I really locked in and was
just like, you know, I'm going to be so intentional
about everything that I do, like who I work with,
what projects, I do what conversations I'm having. But like
once I decided and locked in in that way, I'm
like ready for a level up like I've been, like
(29:10):
I've seen level ups from that to this what you're
seeing now, which this is everything.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And I know, I know you were like talking about
being young and broke, but your fashion was terrible. Girl,
I'm broke in my audition tape, and you saw what
the fuck I did with that. I first cook up
some ice and I made a paper dress about racial
tensions or whatever the fuck I said. Really quickly it
got worse.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I used to wear this. I used to wear this
black Freedora hat, wide brim hat.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I oh, and I used to think I was eating
the roma. And to be honest, for that time eight
years ago was what I don't do mad because I'm
pretty Uh, I don't even know what the timing of
eight years.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Ago was, like twenty is something ish.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, right, twenty nineteen, No, it had to be like
twenty seventeen, twenty six.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I was talking about how old you were.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Oh so yeah, I was the office fashion girl. You
couldn't tell me anything. I had the looks. I was
eating the girls up. But when I look back at
it now, I would literally jump off the nearest bridge
if I.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Is there anything from like that period in time that
you missed? Like it could be like a fashion it
could be like your fake gauges. It could be like
a skincare product.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
The gag is I think I kind of missed my
fake gauges.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I actually not even gonna lie to I remember, and
if I'm being quite honest, my piercings were always My
piercings were always like a way that I rebelled because
my mom.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, piercings are power, Oh easie.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
When I turned eighteen, I went to a walmart that
my friend worked at and they pierced my ears and
I came back home and my mom was so upset
that I woke up the next day to a phone
call with her and my grandma. They're on a phone
call and she walks into my room and they're like
praying over me, telling me to remove my new newly
(31:08):
piers earrings out of my ear.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But I just got it.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I mean, granted, if I look back at it, my mom,
even though she was in like a religious rage, I
also think she peeped that my ears were probably going
to be infected from a Walmart piercer.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
She was like, the devil has gotten into these lobes.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And so I'm like, it's not even like I'm like
in hindsight, I'm like, okay, sister, maybe you were kind
of right.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
But.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I do kind of miss the idea of like having
my ears played. I thought I would look so cute
with them, which I kind of did, and I kind
of still do want to do it.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I was like, wait, how did she get her ear
as to heal up so much that I never noticed it?
And then I remember, I've only ever seen you in headphones.
I don't know what your real ears look like.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Do you miss that easy? Well, I guess do you
miss that Edie from before Drag Race?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
In most ways? But I also believe I'm still that
person in a lot of ways. I'm just tired now,
no legit Like I see, I see, I see how
hungry I was to do something, and like how much
I believed in myself to be able to do something,
(32:21):
and then how important it was for me to like
commit all of that towards something and to be honest
now like I have, I have like a hard time
letting my ego inflate itself to that level. Like I'm
not saying I don't have an ego problem. Girl, I'm
a Leo. I'm a drag queen. Like I know who
(32:42):
the fuck I am. I love me. All I think
about is me, me, me me, But like I don't know,
like there's something about being my own saboteur to a
certain amount of success that's just like always going to
happen because I like being hungry for it more and
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Like but doesn't that I see? I Actually I feel
like I kind of get what you're saying. And maybe
it's just our Leo, our Leo energy being able to
connect there because it there is something to say about
what happens if you do allow yourself to like reach
that like that like next level, Like what changes?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
What person do you become? What new fears are unlocked?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Like I at least that's the thing that I I
talk about, Like I literally just said that I'm ready
to level up. But if I'm being honest with every
new thing, as like the growth comes, I also feel
like I'm unlocking a new level of anxiety of like,
oh shit, there's more responsibilities that I guess I never
thought about are there's just new I'm stretching myself in
(33:47):
more uncomfortable ways because I'm growing.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But like, bitch, I'm scared of that.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, you know that's I think a really like
real real thing girl is Like I don't know, I
used to be hungrier to know more and do more
and see more and feel like I was a part
of more and experience more. And I don't know, like
not that I want that less, but like legitimately, number one,
(34:16):
I'm tired. Ye, Like my body hurts doubly now. My
energy is not that of the youth, And like, I
don't know, I realized that there is this part of
me that's like never going to be satisfied. Like sometimes
it's nice to throw yourself into a dream or whatever. Yeah,
(34:38):
but like the more you do things, like the more
you realize you're still gonna have to do do work
for them, You're still gonna have to like commit, You're
still gonna have to foster that relationship. And like legitimately,
I don't know if I've said this on the show,
but I really cannot wait until we're all wally p.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Actually you have mentioned that, and I can't believe you're
you saying it again actually really means that you really
mean it.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I like really mean it because I love being alive
and I love experiencing new things and stuff, but like,
oh my god, I'm just like exhausted having to pour
energy into it. And if I could at least like
remove the physical aspect of things, like if I could
just like literally be a chair that also like massages
(35:29):
you and like masturbates you or whatever, like cleans your
poop and does your taxes.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Is this because if you're what I make if I'm
saying it wrong, please is it your EDS?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah? EDS is cute. I like that.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Okay, I'm like I didn't want to actually like sound
it out, but the.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Girl it's so un sexy. I can't believe I already
somehow found out how to pronounce it before going on TV,
even if I did have everything else about it wrong,
because there were lots of updates that had just happened
in the medical facilities in the world.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And I also know that you hate it's like one,
I would also equally hate people bringing up this like
thing about my body all the time. I would totally
hate that. But then it's also a real thing that
you're like constantly living with. And I still see you perform,
like you're still flipping and doing splits in like bending backwards,
(36:22):
and I'm like, of course, when you talk about your
body hurting, it's I'm wondering, is that is that a
direct connection to that or is it just because we're
getting older.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I mean that's I actually really do like getting older,
because then it feels like at least it's less of
a direct connection. Like right when I got on Drag
Race was right when I started feeling long term repercussions
of my body, like like when I started dislocating things
and like fracturing things, and that I had never really
(36:53):
had that experience before. I'd just always been extra bending
and like sometimes a sprain and a go for a second, you.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Were dislocating things on drag Race.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, that was the first time I experienced, like started
to experience this sort of my body falling apart. But
I think it's because that's the hardest I had ever
pushed myself. And then when it aired and like going
into what tour life was, which you know at the time,
I'm not bitching about it. I'm very grateful. I said, yes,
(37:25):
to all the things I did, but it was exhausting
to suddenly be somebody who's not just like putting all
of their energy into like one look maybe a week,
but trying to figure out how to perform and feel
authentic to myself and give good shows and convince people
that I deserve to win five nights a week, like
(37:48):
six seven nights a week. Sometimes to the point where
whenever I would get home, I like for those two
or three days, I just lie there and be so
pissed if I had to do anything else. So like it.
It was already rough from the jump. But I've learned
how to deal with my body more, and I've learned
(38:09):
that getting older just sucks for everybody too. And I've
learned that sometimes you need a second tantric massage to
really work that pussy out when the first people won't
touch your butt because of possible sexual harassment lawsuits that
could be filed.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, yes that is true.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There are there's things in all hour, but no, I
totally get it. And it's it's also just like a
constant reminder for myself because and we've taught, we've had
you discussions on the show around like my own relationship
with like my own body and how I walk through
the world with it, and how days some days I'm
(38:47):
either feeling it or like a like loving who I'm
seeing in the mirror. In the other days I'm actually like, bitch,
please let me go and like go force myself to
work out for the next six days and to just
feel like I'm doing something right.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
And it's it's those it's those things where I I
I'm so happy that we are connected in a real
way now because it's just you have such an experience
of like the world perceiving us a thing, are perceiving
you and putting so much of like their what they
feel about you on I mean, I've seen it, let's
be honest. I've seen it in the damn comments of
(39:25):
a TikTok where everybody in their mom is awful.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Girl.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I just went on that TikTok and I was like, oh,
oh my god, these kids hate me for like a
couple of reasons. They're like, you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Look so busted.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I can't believe you're saying that to Utica right now,
And I'm like that bitch didn't even put on an
eyebrow for this interview. Utica I want to fight. You
tell your fans to be nice to me.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I guess I just don't. I'm like, I just don't
get in.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I think this is like the scary piece of like
leveling up that I think I've always sort of been
nervous about about. Like, Okay, I think in some ways,
and if I'm being really honest, I think in some
ways I have been able to curate what the world
sees of me. I've never really ever been one hundred
(40:11):
percent you know myself, because if I'm being honest, like
I never thought there was ever really space for that.
Like I never thought that people would actually like like
me the same way as the same as they would
as a rhyme that I'm like curating for them in
some ways. And like there's a part of leveling up
where you have to kind of let that go.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
And you've done it in.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Your drag career when you want and you got unlocked,
like unleashed into the world and everyone had their like
opinions and thoughts and shitty things to say. And I
think about this as we're growing and as we're doing
this thing.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
How the fuck do you know? How am I? How
how do you handle that? Shit, you know, I mean, are.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You already you already have like the like the base
of it, which is it is going to affect you,
like positive or negative, Like when you see somebody who
you've never met, you see a random comment like representing
a whole idea, you like, drink it in, But I
don't know. It's something like I'm still working on. I'm
(41:16):
still working on because there it like hinders my ability
at least to do what I want to do, which
is survive capitalism by doing what I want to do.
And I feel like the more honest I am, the
more opportunities there are for yeah, people to love me
or hate me, or tell me that they want to
(41:39):
sleep with my dad, or ask me how tall RuPaul is.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
All things I'm wondering and inquiring about it.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
But it's like I don't know, it's it's easier work,
and that's why I'm excited, Like I really am genuinely
thankful that I get to do high key with you,
that like I get to be on a podcast where
we're supposed to be like sharing more of ourselves because
(42:08):
like this is my favorite favorite part about the life
that people may only think I complain about it is like,
I really really love connecting with people, and maybe that's
why I don't come off well online because I don't
fucking like you fucks online. You're all terrible. Your opinions suck,
even when you're right, like, bitch, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But no, I think I'm I love I love being
able to connect with you in this way, and I
think we'll be able to do it more because you're
just making me more comfortable with like showing up as
authentically as I fucking can, and like also not giving
a fuck about what people have to say about it
as we grow in.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
This audience that we're building grows with us, And.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
So yeah, I don't I love you and I'm obsessed
that I got to we got to do this little, small,
little peak, and we'll continue to do stuff like this.
Don't don't even you know if you're just like, oh
my god, it just got started and really dug in,
this will be a this is always going to be us.
This is high key literally, it's never going anywhere. Yeah,
we're always going to be here. And eventually I'll uncover
(43:12):
some like Ryan high school, like his mom on a
camcorder or something, videotaping him like strutting in his rumors.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I will see your gay ass childhood show.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
There's a whole oh like facebook like hidden photo album
that I have a got all of the footage.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
So don't jall go anywhere. Let's take a short break, y'all. Yeah,
we gotta get into our high key of the week, hike.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
What I'm really hi key about is maybe changing my
idea of self care. I'm maybe high key about actually
committing more to self care. I ate a solid today,
I took a bath, I got two massages this week.
I took a bath like every other day. Yeah, and
I'm at least thinking about planning and packing a day early.
(44:06):
So self care, let's say, go take care of yourselves, bitches.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
That's a really really good one.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
And to be honest, that also is a perfect segue
into my high key, my high key. I think I'm
also high key all about advocating for myself. I have
been in spaces where I've talked about where it's always
hard for me to say no, are like to like,
you know, get the thing that I want. And I've
been putting in a lot of work doing a lot
(44:33):
of different projects right now, and I'm just learning to
advocate for myself because I know if I deserve more money, bitch,
I'm going to ask for more money because the work
that I put into the world and what I do
is worth it. And so that is just a reminder
for self care and for advocating for yourself.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
And we are high key fucking done with the show period.
We are.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
But if y'all want to hear more about what's really
sparking our butt plugs, then stay tuned and stick around
for the aftes over on our Patreon. Go subscribe to
our patreon. Hei key he not here.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
That's not patreon dot com slash hi.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Key patreon dot com slash he stay hikey fam Okay, no,
listen to Riots. He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Listen to me.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It's patriot dot com slash hike That's where you're gonna
get all the extra goodies and the aftes. Literally, I
kind of really want to talk about this whole Betty
Who drama, even though I'm not a lamsban but i am,
like I said, I am hikey nosy, and I'm just
I'm so feeling I need.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
To like debrief about it with you.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
So yeah, we're We're gonna, of course add in the
full twenty minutes drag race audition of eeds, so expect that.
And then we're for sure gonna dive into this hole.
Betty who of it all our Patreon so meet us
over there at the aftes patreon dot com slash hike here.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's the show, that's us, that's us.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Congratulations. Let's go get some massages and ask for raises.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
AH love you.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
If you're high key obsessed with our show, take a
second to follow or subscribe so you never miss an episode.
And while you're at it, rate us, drop a review
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Speaker 1 (46:21):
If you want to keep the high key key going,
join us on Instagram and TikTok at high Key here,
and of course on Patreon, where we are literally dropping
all that spicy ass tea every week.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
See you there.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Hi Key is a production of iHeart Podcasts as a
part of the Outspoken Network. This show is created and
executive produced by Ryan Mitchell, eb Adley and spoke Meechia.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Our showrunner is Tyler Green. Our producers are Kelly Koff
and Katie Alis Greer. Our video producer is Bo Delmore,
and our video editor is Luis Peiga, our audio engineer
Sammy Sirich. Special thanks to Jennifernett and Tess.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Ryan, executive producers for social Media. Our Travis Lamont Ballinger
and Aliyah Tabacoli.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Our iHeart Team is Just Crime Chic and Sierra Kaiser.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
And our Fame music is by the one and only
Kayan Hersey and our show art is by Work by Work,
with photography by Eric Carter.
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